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Here's A New PRINCESS AND THE FROG Trailer!! Hand Drawn Animation Still Looks Nice...
Merrick here...
Later this year, Disney marks its return to hand drawn animation with the release of THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG (from John Musker and Ron Clements - LITTLE MERMAID and ALADDIN).
Yahoo has a new trailer HERE, or you can watch it via the embed below...
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Yeah, def goin to see frog get it on with the princess.
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Something about geeks and nerds paired with geeks and nerds. Creepy.
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Glad hand-drawn is back! But ever since somewhere around "The Little Mermaid" their musical choices have been brutally cheesy teeny-pop drivel. They need to dig up the "Jungle Book" or "Pinocchio" people or something.
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...about this. On the one hand, love classic Disney 2D and want it to do well...on the other hand, this stinks of cynical princess trend cash grab...and it looks to be sticking to the tired New Disney formula of fast talking sidekicks and cheap gags...just don't know...
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looks like they just played madlibs with the Disney formula and included iconic scenes and characters from other Disney movies.
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Let down with the second half of Ponyo?
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The triumphant return of Disney to 'classical' hand drawn animation is being ushered in by fart jokes? Does that really sell the movie for people? The second joke we see in the trailer (almost immediately) is a fart joke. I hate to sound like a snob or something, but I expected a higher standard from the Mouse. Seriously, it is almost like a 'kids movie' cant be made today if it doesnt have a fart joke in it, and that joke always seems to be required in the trailer. Unbelievably disappointing, if not unexpected.
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We had it SO good all year, animaton-wise, and now a fucking FART JOKE. Jesus Christ, if this was supposed to be a return to "classic" Disney, they should have left that scatological shit for the Shrek and Ice Age movies.The animation looks beautiful, but Fart Joke + Randy Newman (what, was Alan Menken busy?) = makes me kind of nervous. I want like hell for this movie to succeed enough to get more 2D animated films greenlit, but this more "kiddiefied" trailer is not what I's like to see.
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Then again, Disney has even been shoehorning farts and burps into TV ads for DVD releases of their classic films like The Jungle Book and 101 Dalmatians that don't even exist in the original movies, which is REALLY shameful. I don't need to see a shot of a horse's ass digitally inflated with a stock "Peee-YEEEWWWWWW-up!" sound cue crudely edited in to entice me to buy these. It's like kids can't even process movies anymore unless there's a rude sound blaring from every available orifice. I'm amazed that ads for Ponyo didn't have her blowing a loud air biscuit after eating ham.
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Sep 09, 2009 2:31:05 PM CDT
Did Disney get a tax credit for animating a movie set in NOLA?
by yackbacker
That would be a fucking coup.
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An obvious attempt to add a black princess to Disney's marketing endeavors was enough to turn me off (NOTE: being black myself I am not turned off by black people), but when they add the horrific musical stylings of Randy Newman they lose me entirely. This looks to be their worst since the totally soulless POCAHONTAS.
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...who could forget to complain about Randy Newman?...even his voice sounds fat and mediocre.
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FUCK PIXAR.
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...as of two years ago I'm all out of grandparents...wanna be my new Black Grandpa? I was hoping I could get McCain to drop out of the presidential race and be my new Crazy War Hero Grandpa instead...but he just got crazier and crazier. I think a Black Grandpa would be very cool though...
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Sep 09, 2009 2:38:02 PM CDT
re: Did Disney get a tax credit for animating a movie set in NOL
by googam_son_of_goom
It Would be an incredible gesture if Disney would donate film Proceeds to NOLA. I mean... $4 Bil for Marvel... there can't be a ton of need for whatever this film makes at the box office. Advertise it as 'your ticket purchase benefits the residents of New Orleans' or something. ...yeah, like that would happen.
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Nasty, I am just glad that someone agreed with me. I was thinking that I was going to get called out as an animation snob for complaining about it.
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I mean it's an obvious choice they made to set this in NOLA anyway. So, maybe they have that in mind?
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Who actually like Randy Newman....but why the fuck did they get him for this movie? It should have been done my Jay-Z! Or at least Issac Hayes.
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Tottally forget he's dead, and Jay-Z retried. Hmmmm.
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...but they lost me at, "Music by Randy Newman."
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Newman's style matches this film and he knows how to write animation scores, so he is a pretty solid choice.
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... and when it bombs, let's conclude that people don't like 2D animation anymore.
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Sep 09, 2009 2:57:31 PM CDT
I like Randy Newman in general but N'awlins is all about music
by yackbacker
You're telling me they couldn't get some prodigal son like Harry Connick, Jr. or the Marsalis Bros. to pitch in?
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East of the Sun, West of the Moon?
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Sorry, I had to...
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The animation is gorgeous, but the movie itself seems terribly contrived and riddled with cliches. Didn't we just get the "transformation role-reversal" plot twist in Shrek? I think I'll pass on this one.
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...let's make Black Shrek: Fart Fart Away!!
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Who cares about 2D animation if they are just going to go back to the same EXACT STORY AND SONGS they were making back when audiences started to lose interest in the firstplace!
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Why that guy? Why? And the music reeks of him. Sad, sad state of affairs.
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Sep 09, 2009 3:19:48 PM CDT
Black People in a Disney Toon? Walt's Nazi blood is boiling
by disney_retcond_my_std
my girlfriends going to force me to go see this crap, i know it!
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If I had one, I wouldn't even be here!!
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I don't see this doing well. The public has no respect for hand drawn animation now that they are used to seeing 3d.
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I know it is going to surprise everyone here but you guys aren't the demographic they are shooting for! And really beerbeastredux and Disney_Retcond_my_STD, is it ok with you if some movies are made for us girls since at least 90% are made for guys?
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Sep 09, 2009 3:35:44 PM CDT
I wonder how a stereoscopic 3D 2D animated movie might look...
by johnno
I tihnk they should try making one, just to see...
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Welcome to Disney's Obamic years
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The movie will suck. It's not like if you made this movie in 3D it automatically becomes a f'in classic. I'm with Nice Marmot on this one...Disney needs to give Fantasy another shot and don't limit it to preteens!
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that would be so hilarious. But seriously, this film doesn't look so good, but I'll watch it just to support Disney's 2D animation.
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In fact, get a couple. They make your dick wet!
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This actually looks like it belongs within the pantheon of older Disney classics, as though it was created back in the day and then lost in a vault. I'm quite amazed that they can still create in that style.
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I'm all for hand-drawn animation, but story and music wise, this looks like a return to the banal for Disney. Boring crap.
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She forced me to go see Disney movies, and I complained about it on AICN talkback. Then she found out about it.
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Better nominate this one for Best Picture boys.
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...and I like less than half of Pixar's movies...but UP was perfect.
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Seriously. You were all thinking it. And no Disney film before or since beats Beauty and the Beast...that film was stunning in every way.
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Yousa sayin' people gonna fart?
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I actually saw one in a theater in the mid to late '80s. I don't remember the name, but it was a PG rated Star Wars-ish knockoff. I remember Gene Siskel saying that a character saying, "Kid, no!" strongly resembled Han Solo. I don't remember much about the 3D effect itself. I think the characters themselves were likely flat and there were 3D effects with some backgrounds and I forget what-all.
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Put me down for 100 that it will involve something about Obama and public healthcare.
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... but still nice to see hand drawn animation under the Disney banner again
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Good to see that giant gay alligator from All Dogs Go To Heaven is still getting work.
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Sep 09, 2009 4:57:28 PM CDT
I'M STILL WAITING FOR DISNEY'S VERSION OF MEIN KAMPF.....
by carlthormark1978
Hand drawn of course.
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Full title Starchaser: The Legend of Orin
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best TB of the day "I'm still waiting for Disney's version of Mein Kampf"
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The general public demands base accessibility, farts jokes, robots humping legs, spit takes etc...make 5-10yr olds and the typical sports on Sunday/Nascar fan laugh like jackels...so I can see why they would go this route for a childrens movie..it fits the demo.
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Sep 09, 2009 5:10:10 PM CDT
Also..as fans of cinema and art..we can admire handdrawn animati
by conspiracy
but does a general public raised on CGI? I'm not so sure they can appreciate the artistry and effort behind 2d animation; have any of you been to an art museum lately? They are pretty damned empty. I'm glad Disney has invested the time and huge amounts of money into saving this artform...but at some point an accountant is going to put his foot down and tell the stakeholders it simply does not pencil out.
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And as a Disney shareholder...I approve of this project.
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so when does Spiderman show up ?
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Good old Disney reinforcing stereotypes...just how many bug-eyed cotton pickers did I hear in the trailer? Ridiculous and ultimately disgusting.
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2D looks good. Too bad it's the same old crap.
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I peered briefly at some youtube videos and wasn't sure, but then I checked imdb and saw something about a Mine-World, and that along with a poster of a bad guy with his arms crossed helped confirm it is indeed Starchaser: The Legend of Orin.
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Not really. Where do you douchebags get your sense of humor? And this is coming from someone who thinks Mike Tyson stating that he's going to eat your children is just the funniest thing ever said.
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Sep 09, 2009 5:40:11 PM CDT
I'm curious to see how this movie will do in Asia and Eastern Eu
by gibsonusa returns
...with a movie about an African American princess in New Orleans. Hope it does well, though.
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If you see racism everywhere, it might be because you are in fact a racist. In case your dumb ass didn't notice, the heroine is African American.
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Sounds like a return to the old form.
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It's the whole package, from beginning to end. I just can't see working trailers made from the Lion King, Aladding or Hercules - films that I loved to death as a kid.
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It's a designed-by-committee retread of every Disney cliche.
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The Southpark Move did it better.
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His albums are cynical, full of social commentary, and downright ballsy. The man lead off his follow up to his first popular CD with "Rednecks" one of the most offensive and hilarious songs ever written about the south and race relations. The rest of the album is guaranteed to offend almost everybody. I won't post it here but go listen. He's a hilariously evil mofo when he's not writing Disney music.
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Sep 09, 2009 7:03:58 PM CDT
Azlam Orlandu..That Tyson quote IS the funniest thing evah!
by conspiracy
And Hitler references? Always funny...
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A whole bunch of them watch this stuff called Japanime. Which has animation that doesn't hold a candle to Disney quality. But it succeeds because a lot of those shows have ninjas and robot monsters and stuff with a lot of ass kicking. Nickledeon's Avatar is a very popular show and despite having its momentary low brow humor is still pretty damn funny without the need for fart jokes. Hell a whole subculture of fans love Japanese Animation. And it ain't because it's the bestest quality of animation, but because it covers a variety of tastes and styles. From kids to grown ups. So 2D animation isn't the problem. It's public perception that 2D animation is something that only comes from Disney and is only meant for kids and never evolves or changes. If Disney's not trying to do more with 2D, then let the Japanese take over or grow some balls, open a new studio called something else but owned by Disney and try to attempt something more mature and provocative than it's used to doing and market it like it would Pirates of the Carribean or any other PG-13 fare that it wants to succeed. Disney owns Marvel Studios now... fucking make some animated stuff using those properties that caters to a PG-13 crowd! Come the fuck on!
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At least for the kiddies who know only CG.
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Then she's a fucking frog the majority of the movie. I cant wait til' Al Sharpton get a hold of this!
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Look up one post before your shitty old-man knee jerk reaction and you'll see someone posting the actual truth. There are still plenty of quality 2D shows being made for TV and the kids lap that stuff up. They don't care about 2D cel animation or CGI, just that the stories and characters appeal to them.
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Because I've been waiting for Disney's return to 2D animation for years. The trailers LOOK gorgeous, but the rest seems forced. I'm afraid I'm going to be underwhelmed. Disney needs to remember that if it has heart, it will make lots and lots of money because THAT'S why people keep coming back.
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From Alfred to Thomas Newman, and many other people in between they have wrote some amazing music. Cannot wait to hear the New Orleans inspired soundtrack and his work on Toy Story 3.
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Oops, somehow my keyboard didn't register parts of that sentence, which should have read, "Hey, isn't Disney doing 'King of Elves,' Philip K. Dick's fantasy story?" Actually, that's not true about my keyboard - after all the complaints about childish jokes, I just wanted to inject some adult humor into the conversation. You know, something with dicks.
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Was Pumbaa's "young warthog" backstory the first incident of a fart joke in a Disney film? It's the earliest I can remember, and they even censored themselves from saying the word "fart"!I guess if it's good enough for an academy award nominated film, it's good enough for every family movie forever.
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Sep 09, 2009 9:37:45 PM CDT
Yeah, I think Lion King was the first flatulent Disney flick
by nasty in the pasty
And yet, you never actually HEARD a fart in that movie (unless a tuba razzberry on the soundtrack counts). A belch, yes, but no audible farts. I blame Ren & Stimpy for the scatalogical trend. It used to be you couldn't even HINT at body function jokes in a family movie (maybe the occasional burp was allowed), but nowadays you have Sid the sloth sticking his nose into a log where some animal is shitting his brains out and making loud farts in Ice Age 2. It was DISGUSTING, and not amusing in the slightest, yet the kiddies dutifully laughed it up. I'm not pretentious enough to deny I've laughed at the odd fart joke in the past, but I've just had ENOUGH at this point. One major reason Kung Fu Panda was so unexpectedly good was that it went out of its way to avoid farts and burps (and only one scene where a character is hit in the crotch). A fat cartoon panda voiced by Jack Black, and not one rude body noise? That was CLASSY. And Pixar has featured virtually no flatulence in any of their movies (although Finding Nemo had a pretty good gag involving a fart, thankfully not lingered over). DOWN WITH FARTING! DOWN WITH FARTING! DOWN WITH FARTING!
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Does this mean Pixar's next movie will have Alan Menken music? Because you know, apparently, it's an original idea you forget all those Pixar movies had Newman music so surely we'll forget Menken scored all those Disney movies when we see a Pixar movie with his music attached, right? Or does Lasseter just use Newman all the time with any BS excuse?*************************** That aside, the movie looks good, though I'm surprised with all the talk of an African American princess (oh great, they fixed the PC label by making her an actual American who I guess will marry a foreign prince to get her princess title), that the heroine appears to be a frog for a large part of the movie. Hmm. At least she's not upstaged by 7 dwarfs, an army of tailor mice, a singing crab, living furniture, or the Golden Girls as fairies, right? A farting firefly and bellybutton obsessed croc stealing the show could be real hard to take though.
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I am definitely Down with farting. Down for the count as well! Oh the humanity!
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I feel like I've just stepped out for some fresh air. *Inhales* *exhales*. Maybe there's a God afterall.
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Sep 09, 2009 10:23:55 PM CDT
"I feel like I've just stepped out for some fresh air"
by nasty in the pasty
Fresh air tainted by farts, of course.
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*Inhales* *exhales* Please don't rain on my parade.
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Good grief. You've got to love Disney... so first they're all "progressive" and "cutting edge", 2-D is dead, they kill their hand-drawn animation department and get into 3-D... and when some other company does it better, well, they just go ahead and BUY THEM. Sweet, now we own Pixar! Woo-hoo! Then, here comes Miyazaki (actually, of course, he was there since the 60's, but that's beside the point) making these unbelievably beautiful 2-D animated movies, and when the come over to the USA... OH. MY. GOD. People want to SEE THEM??? Oh SNAP! Disney can't really do 2-D anymore... and, well, hell, it worked with 3-D... we'll just BUY THE RIGHTS to these, too... so much easier than doing it ourselves anyway. Come to think of it, we used to do this stuff ourselves, didn't we? OH YEAH! You know, we could do another one... it wouldn't even have to be much work, just take all the stuff we've already done and DO IT AGAIN!!! FUCK YEAH!!! And get Newman to do the score!!! WOO-HOO!!! Everything about this is SO. FUCKING. LAZY.
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Don't hold it back, how do you really feel?
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To quote from the Randy Newman entry on Wikipedia "As an infant, Newman moved with his Jewish family to New Orleans, Louisiana, where his mother's family lived. He lived in New Orleans as a small child and spent summers there until he was eleven years old..." He may not be a native son like Harry Connick, but he does have a valid New Orleans pedigree. Would love to hear Dr. John take lead vocals on one of the songs, though. And the movie is set in New Orleans because, unique among American cities, it has royalty every year at Mardi Gras, so the "princess" may not be of royal blood, but she'll be as real a princess as you could find outside the blue bloods of Europe. I figure they'll have to premiere the movie here, and hope it's more successful than the last one they did, "Hunchback of Notre Dame."
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I dunno...
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Looks more like Sinbad/Dreamworks style animation...very bland. Kinda pretty, but slick and rubbery. Generic. No moments that stand out, like the gathering of animals at Pride Rock, or Tramp killing the rat, or the Blue Fairy materializing in Gepetto's cottage. I'm all for 2D coming back, but...word is, Disney outsourced a lot of the animation in this film to a company in Canada. So once again, instead of creating, Disney is buying...bummer...what would Walt say?
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I totally chuckled at the "belly button" line. I'm glad their keeping this loose and in the style of Aladdin—not getting heavy handed and preachy like the late 90's animated Disney flicks did.
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I never maligned Newman personally, I admire his work, but your revelation of his childhood growing up in NOLA is worthwhile. Does Newman compose traditional jazz arrangements of the region? I honestly don't know. But if a musician of his caliber has a personal experience in that geographic area, then I'm sure he has an ear for it at the very least.
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Which is songs largely based on his growing up in Nawlins....
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This animation is awesome, and totally in the Disney style, and there's nothing wrong with that. I didn't see anything remotely racist in the trailer either, unless you consider african american characters appearing in the film inherently racist. In which case you'd be a bigot anyway. Oh, and seriously, all that anger over a fart from a cartoon firefly? People spent years of their lives working their asses off to bring us something we've all been clamoring for that was on the brink of extinction. The animation took my breath away. I'll let the firefly fart.
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Nobody else watch Nostalgia Critic or Nostalgia Chick here?
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Don't get me wrong, the CGI kick was amazing in the late nineties, but now in the year 2009 they've gone the way of the infamous Ugachaka Baby screen saver; meaning they are fucking boring to look at! I remember growing up my cartoons had detail to them, they weren't just bland looking Incredible's-esque avatars wandering about. Even if they story sucks ill fork ten bucks over to Disney for this one because they grew a pair and decided to show off their true talent.
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Never contribute to talk backs drunks at 2:00 am... Other nerds may point out your horrendous grammar and spelling. With that said: fuck CGI!
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on a computer with a wacom pen.... Let me know when the shitty man in suit flick is made that we have to support because it's a *gasp* "MAN IN SUIT" Flick.
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navi would have looked better.right?
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which promises to be more on the "Beauty and the Beast"/"Hunchback of Notre Dame" side of the fence then the "Aladdin"/"Little Mermaid side.
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and maybe it will get an oscar nomination.
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was the dad from good times, cant believe i forget his name. he played the double crossing villain in Die Hard 2 though, and played Lisa's dad on Fresh Prince.
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Well not really, but the hicks are coppin' it sweet via the farting firefly (whom I actually found rather amusing) I remember seeing the Lion King at the movies when I was a kid, and laughing my butt off at the Pumbaa fart joke- it's not like we've devolved to idiocracy standards and the whole film is just a farting ass- there's some good energy in that trailer, I like it.
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Found the name of the CANADIAN company that animated most of this new "Disney" cartoon...it's called Yowza. Bad news is, there is no actual 2D animation department in Disney anymore. Good news is, most of the people working at Yowza are former Disney laid-off employees. Guess it all balances out, eh?
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Not that I'm not going to see Astro Boy or Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs...they look solid...but yeah, CGI has blanded out animation to the nth degree. Even the generic animation in that Frog trailer looks better. But it ain't blow-you-away classic Disney. Oh well, I guess that, for now, it'll have to do...
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I'm so excited for this movie! My two little girls are really looking forward to it, Im just glad to be able to take my kids to a traditional animated movie.
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damn you guys are cynical. This looks FINE. like it belongs with the pantheon of late 80s - early 90s disney renaisence films. It looks fun, energetic and colourful, and like it tells a simple story with a decent heart. Don't go in expecting it to revolutionise storytelling, it's a DISNEY FAIRYTAIL. These things are meant to follow a damn formula, you can't have a go at them for not breaking it. If 9 year old girls enjoy it and everyone else can at least cope, it's done its job.
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damn you guys are cynical. This looks FINE. like it belongs with the pantheon of late 80s - early 90s disney renaisence films. It looks fun, energetic and colourful, and like it tells a simple story with a decent heart. Don't go in expecting it to revolutionise storytelling, it's a DISNEY FAIRYTAIL. These things are meant to follow a damn formula, you can't have a go at them for not breaking it. If 9 year old girls enjoy it and everyone else can at least cope, it's done its job.
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Who cares. Its not Pixar.
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...and I have to say this movie looks good... and the gator is not in the first 30 mins...
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You need to get your facts straight buddy!
Disney had a full in-house 2D crew for Princess and the Frog. ALL the rough animation and clean-up animation keys were done in Burbank, CA.(and on paper btw) They sent the clean-up animation to be inbetweened at Yowza. That's it. And if you didn't know inbetweening is the kind of job you would give an intern. It's an advanced form of tracing pretty much.
For god sakes.....say what you want about this bland annoying trailer, but don't go around just making shit up. -
Whoa, whoa whoa, take a chill pill already. Tell me, did Walt outsource in-betweening in his day? No? Didn't think so. Betcha didn't know that bad in-betweening can kill the best extremes, even Goldberg's I'd wager. By the way, have fun at your Muppet booth, and also by the way, the comics suck, especially your covers.
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