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Rob Zombie May Not Be Making Another HALLOWEEN Movie, But Someone Will...
Merrick here...
A Variety article about goings on at Dimension reveals that the Weinsteins are currently looking for someone to generate the next HALLOWEEN movie & may've found their man:
Weinstein is also in negotiations with Patrick Lussier ("My Bloody Valentine") to write and direct a third "Halloween" franchise in 3-D. Weinstein is hoping to release the pic next summer.
...says Variety HERE.
Betcha they call it HALLOWEEN 3-D or something like that.
To be completely honest, I never saw the MY BLOODY VALENTINE remake so I can't comment fairly on Lussier's potential involvement. Although, I do recall THIS unappreciative diatribe from Massawyrm...
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That is all.
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Does that girl look possessed or what? That is one crazy ass bitch. Here's hoping Rob Zombie remakes "Humongous" next.
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Does that girl look possessed or what? That is one crazy ass bitch. Here's hoping Rob Zombie remakes "Humongous" next.
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No. No I think not.
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On youtube. Just so you all know.
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Curtains, The Final Terror, Just Before Dawn, Maniac, The Prowler. The Man will be busy.
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and while it was a decent movie, I liked the first because of the sheer ludicrious(ness) of RZ's remake,none of which was present in this film. It retained its cool atmosphere but took itself waaaay more serious then the remake. Plus the ending was anticlimatic especially knowing 3 was announced the day of its release.
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speaking of the ending, am I the only one who felt the movie went on forever?
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Sept. 8, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST
So that means it will be a normal paint-by-numbers shlasher?
by DerLanghaarige
Say what you want about Zombie's take on Halloween, but at least he tried to do something different with the material.
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...Busta Rhymes!
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Moronic Marketing 101.
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MBV3D was decent and also had Betsy Rue running around completely naked for a few minutes while being chased by the killer. That qualifies Lussier to do the next Halloween IMHO.
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Patrick Lussier the new Marcus Nispel.
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Are they still letting that asshole direct Conan?
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No one saw Gamer this weekend?
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Is it just me or does Trauma look really bad!!!
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Or, overuse of the BA! BA! noise.
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3D Silver Shamrock Masks!
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Are they the same show? So NBC gets rid of Scrubs then makes Mercy which looks like Scrubs without the main douchebag?
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Should have been Pascal Laughier. I hear that MARTYRS is fucking insane...
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and that's rare.
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and then it will go back to being Halloween 1 again, then Halloween 2, etc.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST
These remakes will be forgotten in 5 years, while the
by AlienDragQueen
originals will be immortal.
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i meannot a classic or a movie i want to watch more then once a year, but it wasn't that bad and quite enjoyable<P>haven't seen H2 yet but from the reviews i take it that perhaps handing over the halloween franchise to someone else is a good thing<P>and yes, how come no reviews for GAMER yet, i wanted to see it this weekend but it wasn't playing in my town for some reason
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Read this a week ago.
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Halloween 2 and My Bloody Valentine 3D were two of the worst horror films I think I've ever seen. The only thing that puts "Valentine" over the edge is that the 3D was so bad it actually caused me physical pain. Thankfully, there's good original horror being made all over the world that's never been more readily accessible.
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that wall e animation was up all summer, but the district 9 animation lasted hardly a week. halloween movies aren't scary.
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God forbid that they try anything different aside from the tired Michael Myers plotline. Halloween 3: Season of the Witch is an underrated gem. Those who panned it just didn't get it. If they're going to churn out another Halloween film, let's try something different for a change.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST
They could hire me. If Zombie proved nothing else...
by Hint_of_Smegma
...he proved he could simply pull down his trousers, squat and shit out something that the studio would happily slap the name of Halloween on to. And I could do that, in spades. Here I go....clenching....now comes the squeeze....and there is the staisfying splash of victory. There you go guys - I give you Halloween 3. You're welcome.
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Posted in a related talkback, after I RTFA'd an article posted here that I guess nobody from here bothered to read. Way to be on the ball guys. Good reporting.
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Bet Scout doesn't come back either.
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I don't know, that's all I have to say
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Halloween II was AWFUL. I hadn't watched his remake of the original until just a few hours before I saw the sequel. I know a lot of people bashed it but, I actually enjoyed the remake. I was excited to see the sequel. When I walked out of the theatre, following Halloween II, I cursed Rob Zombie's name. Really, what killed it for me, was the mother in white with the white horse aspect. That completely ruins the movie for me. The less than lackluster kills, the overused dream sequences, even the humanization of Michael Myers, I can overlook and just say "eh, I can deal with it". But, having his mother, dressed in white, constantly there guiding him, was completely unnecessary and ruins the movie. The other thing that kinda kills it for me is having Michael Myers walking around like Caine from Kung Fu for 3/4 of the movie. He just puts his mask on when it's killin' time. He couldn't stand to take the mask off in the first movie yet, now he only puts it on to kill. Horrible. Just horrible. If you take out those 2 aspects then possibly it would have been a decent movie. At least, I wouldn't have walked out of it and been pissed at how bad it was. Reboot the reboot.
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and how will it all connect with Zombie's version? It won't feel at all like what he did. It's just so weird. As if audiences will even notice the difference anyway.
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And the skull one. Damn.....Why didn't my neighborhood general store sell Silver Shamrock products?
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Zombie's relaunch is over, someone else can reboot Myers again 5 years from now. Silver Shamrock in 3D would be creepy as fuck.
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Rob Zombie and his take on the series was the only incentive to actually watch them. He set up some interesting things by the end of Halloween 2- why not wait and let him continue/pay that off? H2 did about equal to (or better than) TFD's business if you factor out the 3D ticket price increase, and probably would have done much better had the two films not been cannibalizing their audiences. A third one released without a direct horror competitor would do as well as the original did, with or without 3D.
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11 MORE MONTHS TIL THIS MOVIE SUCKS <p> THIS MOVIE SUCKS <p> THIS MOVIE SUCKS <p> 11 MORE MONTHS TIL THIS MOVIES SUCKS <p> FUCK HOL-LY-WOOD!
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Yes the tentative title is Halloween 3D. I'm totally fine with all of this except that My Bloody Valentine 3D sucked bull nuts. I'm hoping that was the sole fault of the script and Jensen Ackles soap oprah-styled acting chops.
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was how the killer wield that pick ax. It seemed a bit sharp, and he was handling it like it was a machete. When he struck someone with it, the effect looked fake.
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I mean seriously. Did he bang one of their wives or something? Because what they are doing to him at this point is personal.
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Lussier used him in Bloody Valentine. Let's hope we can get him here again for the H3 redo/remake?! Classic Carpenter character and genre actor all together.
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That's my slickest idea of the day.
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Start boycotting it now!
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He can't possibly make it any worse than what Zombie has done. Having said that, Valentine was a really poor film. Plus, I really wish that they'd just stop with all the 3D crap. I've tried to watch several films in 3D and couldn't get all the way through them because it hurt my eyes. I felt like I was going crossed-eyed. It's just a stupid gimmick which doesn't bring anything to the story or characters. I managed to watch the Avatar trailer in 3D but again, I thought it looked terrible and it gave me a headache. The 2D trailer, in digital, looks much better.
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JUST THOUGHT ID SAY IT BECAUSE ITS TROOF BITCH
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was better than anything Rob Zombie has "directed." (Not such an impressive achievement, but I figured I'd point it out.) And Lussier edited the Scream movies, along with H:20. Kinda seems like he's the right guy for the job. He couldn't possibly do worse... Regardless, I'm very much in favor of the return of the Silver Shamrock masks; here's hoping they go that route.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST
Halloween 3-D is the official title... at least for now.
by The Dum Guy
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Get The Ward out so we have some real shit to talk about.
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The guy took a dead (D-E-A-D, DEAD!) joke of a franchise and reinvigorated it. He actually made Halloween interesting and scary again, rather than the pathetic parody it had turned into. I know the internet tough guys on here would have you believe that Zombie's Myers isn't frightening, but I guarantee you would shit your pants in fear looking at the guy from across the street. He's a hell of a lot scarier than the slow-moving sadsack that got his ass handed to him by Jamie Lee Curtis and Busta Rhymes in consecutive films. He is a remorseless killing machine and he can't be reasoned with. Why in the flying fuck would anybody want to go back to the cheesy, "safe" Myers of the previous series?<br> <br> Another thing: if you don't like Zombie's films, that's fine. But when you try to back up your opinion with ABSOLUTE HORSESHIT statements about H20, Resurrection, and Dracula 2000 being better films than anything Zombie has done... well, now you're just being retarded.
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First off, not a fan of Zombie's Halloween . . . it robbed Michael of his mystique, I didn't care about the characters, and the "Love Hurts" sequence literally pissed me off. All of this is too bad, too, cause I think Devil's Rejects is AMAZING work.<p>Dracula 2000 is one of the best STORIES about Dracula I've heard seen/read . . . I won't spoil it, but the ideas they presented were FANTASTIC, in the realm of "why didn't anyone ever think of this before?"<p>MBV3D was passable as a popcorn flick with the best 3D to date. As a horror movie? VERY sub-par. In one of the only times I've agreed full-heartedly with Massa, it was dull, the kills were ALL the same with the pickaxe (which really is my biggest worry about the director taking on Halloween, making it repetitive and boring), and the film did 'lie' to the audience, which I always hate to see.<p>Oh, and for the guy who mentioned 'Martyrs' . . . it wasn't bad, but I think 'Inside' is a MUCH better film . . . Martyrs didn't really connect enough to make it live up to the hype, but it had a couple of disturbing/shocking thing going on. Worth checking out.
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Just read your post above . . . I can see calling Michael from 4 or 5 cheezy, but the first two? ESPECIALLY the first, original, Halloween? Sorry, that's one of the scariest killers ever . . . and it's BECAUSE he's slow, and there's almost no blood, and it's fantastic. Zombie made MIchael LESS interesting by showing us more.
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give it to a real filmmaker.
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I mean, the way he clenched his fists and closed his eyes after watching the 'test family' get killed. I mean, a lesser actor would have tried to show some emotion. Not an old pro like Tom. When those snakes coming oozing out of that kid's head, the shock and horror would be so overwhelming that all you could do would be close your eyes and make a fist. Rock on Tom.
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Bad as H2 is, Resurrection was soooo much worse. Putrid! Happy that it effectively ended Busta's acting career and the phenom of putting "rappers" in horror movies. <p> Michael was also weak in H20, starring, not so coincidentally, LL Cool J. That movie is way over rated, had tons of potential but nothing ever happened. <p> Halloween 4, however, rocks. Everyone I know likes it. Unfair to lump it in with H20 and resurrection. <p> H2 is dreadful, I can only welcome a 3D remake. I quite enjoyed My Bloody Valentine...it was actually quite bloody and suspenseful, even if the end was a cheat.
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But then again, Zombie's movies generally suck. And so do the majority of slasher films. <p> I guess Patrick Lussier is good fit than.
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When I first heard that Diminsion was rebooting the Halloween series, I secretly hoped that they would make it to part 3 and have the story work so that you could even go back and after watching the original H and H2, pop in the reboot H3 and have it work as a sequel that ACTUALLY has Michael in the damn movie. The original H3 is THE worst sequel ever because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Mike and his killing spree. Get another director who can stay true to the character that John Carpenter created, but make sure the movie is called HALLOWEEN III. The fans deserve a redo on that ripoff of a sequel that was HALLOWEEN III: SEASON OF THE SWITCH!
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Look at all of the other slasher films released in the past five years and you can see that MB is actually worth watching. I think this guy can pull off a H3 remake.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST
Zombie ruined the franchise, if Lussier can make H3 decent...
by JuanSanchez
it will be a vast improvement.
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I can't remember which reviewer was asking. About 112 F-words and its derivatives (including two stickers with the F-word printed on them). Thank you Kids-in-mind.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST
My Bloody Valentine 3-D was very entertaining, especially with t
by Mike_D
I think he can pull it off very well, practical effects is the way to go with 3D.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST
Just hope he does not follow Zombie's storyline!
by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak
Cause it SUCKED!
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Sept. 8, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST
Just hope he does not follow Zombie's storyline!
by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak
Cause it SUCKED!
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@Toulon: Yes, it was scary for its time, but that was 30 years ago. I could be getting the details mixed up but there's a famous story about Carpenter's score saving the first film, which nobody thought was scary during test screenings without the score. Look, I don't like tearing down any of the Halloweens because it's my favorite franchise, but they are all far from perfect, even the original.<br> <br> @Homer Sexual: Halloween 4 was the best sequel, hands down. I prefer it to the overrated Halloween II (1981) and it's one of my favorite horror flicks. I even liked the Thorn cult storyline that developed in 5 and 6, but I was disappointed in H20 and disgusted by Resurrection. I honestly don't see why people hate Zombie's H2 so much after all the subpar films in the previous series. <br> <br> @crunchnuts: I hate to break this to you, but Halloween III had no Michael Myers because John Carpenter wanted it that way. He wanted to get away from the Myers storyline and the slasher genre, and turn the franchise into an anthology series of films based around different aspects of the holiday of Halloween. So do you really want Dimension to stay true to Carpenter's vision, or do you just want another generic Michael Myers killing spree?<br> <br> @JuanSanchez: Zombie didn't ruin the franchise. H20 and Resurrection already took care of that. How many times does this have to be said?
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Bloody Valentine was a bunch of kills and a long time where tits were on screen. Do that with Carpenter's score and a white mask and I'm there.
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let it R.I.P.
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I want to punch anyone in the face who thinks these new Halloween flicks are remotely watchable. Sure, the old Friday sequels were terrible, but they were fun. These are just nasty, twisted and gross imagery for the sake of it. Not because it tells a scary story. FUCK these shit-heaps!
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YOR: HUNTER FROM THE FUTURE is still better than these shitty remakes! If Zombie had a creative bone in that thick head of his, he would forgo the Myers crap and do the Halloween movie based around the holiday as Carp originally intended for H3.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST
at least hiring Zombie to reboot the franchise was somewhat insp
by GLENN_THE_TOOL
too bad he decided to go the Hillbilly Halloween route. now that they realized the rebooted franchise is already FUBAR after only its second film, they're gonna result to a novelty 3D sequel because they've run out of options.
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Halloween 2's ass at the box office.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST
Ahh, Massawyrm was the only one bitching at BNAT.
by The Reluctant Austinite
Most of the BNAT X audience had a good time with "My Bloody Valentine 3-D." The 3-D was awesome; MUCH, MUCH better than the cash-grabbing "Final Destination." Tom Atkins was awesome. The movie delivered the exploitation goods from nudity through bloody 3-D violence. What else would you expect? Massawyrm was outside bitching his ass off about how bad he thought it was all night after the screening. He then took that to Spill.com and bitched some more. Then wrote a bitchy review bombing it. Harry, and most of the other guys I saw it with, thought it was a lot of fun.
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In fact, it can be worse. So bad in fact people are calling for a Halloween 3 or an end altogether. Thank you Rob, you stupid fuck. And H3-D? Great, let's have another run of throw away sequels based on Zombie's instead of Carpenter's. So I had to endure Rob's shit fest just to return to the same formula they tried to break away from. Awesome. My Bloody Valentine 3-D sucked all kinds of ass. Other than a couple of hot chicks, it was a complete waste of a Netflix.
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He was responsible for "Inside", which was a truly innovative movie in a genre that lately is not known for innovation. "Inside" was a slasher movie and seemed to be proud of that fact. It didn't infringe on the Eli Roth format and didn't continue the formula of introducing horrific, disgusting characters and lazily hoping a horror movie developed around them (I am looking at you Rob Zombie). "Inside" was a slasher movie that earned its merit from being suspenseful. This is what the Halloween franchise needs. Sadly, by pimping the franchise out to the 3-D fad I think hope is lost for the foreseeable future.
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could have redeemed the balance of the sorry-ass franchise (I'm exempting Carpenter's original HALLOWEEN. a deserved classic). Nigel Kneale, who wrote the original "Quatermass" screenplays. submitted a transcendant Part 3 screenplay that circumvented the fatigued "slasher" crap. But it was subsequently rewritten--sans Kneale's participation--and transmuted into an oversimplified "Irish bogeyman" bromide. A terrible waste--much like Rob Zombie.
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Stay away from hillbillies Rob. They are your kryptonite.
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How about a movie that pays tribute to the holiday, is built on a foundation of solid story telling, inspired unconventional actors, and looks like the filmmaker loved making it as opposed to cashing a check??? Wait, we have that movie--Michael Dougherty made it and it is called Trick'r'Treat. Movie studios didn't know what to do with it and it sat on a shelf for 3 years. The genre has devolved into a cornocopia of Saw movies, Eli Roth rip-offs, and a barage of movies copying the lazy filmmaking style of Rob Zombie.
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I think constantly releasing these films in the summer is stupid. Ironically, there was more competition from horror films at the end of summer then there would have been with a mid-October release.
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Horror films are only enjoyed by goth and emo people. Eff this shit,
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Give a movie called "Inside" a chance.
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Didn't see it, read the wiki plot summary, he gets stabbed in the face at the end. I know getting shot in the head is possibly, POSSIBLY, surivable, but I think he's kinda dead by this one.
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Sept. 8, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST
My favorite Horror movie is the original Friday the 13th
by lockesbrokenleg
But that doesn't mean I watch the five hundred other worthless sequels.
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I would like to thank all of the talkbackers who slammed it and successfully lowered my expectations so that I could just go in and enjoy the damn thing. My only complaint is that it was a little dark (as in under-lit)
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H2 10/30/81 - $25,533,818 H3 10/22/82 - $14,400,000, H4 10/21/88 - $17,768,757, H5 10/13/89 - $11,642,254 H6 09/29/95 - $15,116,634 H7 08/07/98 - $55,041,738 H8 07/12/02 - $30,354,442 HRe 08/31/07 - $58,272,029 HRe2 08/28/09 - $26,928,692 The highest grossing films in the franchise were released NON Halloween time, excluding the original (which due to word of mouth and slow roll-outs made its money Nov '78 and well through 1979. The strategy is actually not as dumb as it seems. A Halloween film released in August gets people who are just gearing up for the Halloween season and thus allows the film to be relevant for 2 months BEFORE Halloween. Releasing it in October leaves just a few weeks (who's going to see Halloween films in Nov/Dec?). August has also proven to be a bankable time for the horror genre.
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watch it again, riddled with plot holes, cardboard characters and a terrible "sister" angle that reeks of lazy screenwriting. Say what you will about Zombie -- at least his H2 attempted to go in a new direction (he fell on his face...), Halloween 2 '81 is an OBVIOUS cash grab. Even Carpenter said he came up with the "sister" element because he couldn't think of anything else and was drunkenly trying to write the screenplay. Honestly, only Part 4 came close to capturing the mood of the original film. Unfortunately it fell victim to 80's fad of a hulking massive killer and a few rando intense violent scenes that felt out of place. Missed opportunity.
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Because Rob's movies would have been brain food for them.
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Really? Well, thank goodness...
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Sept. 9, 2009, 7 a.m. CST
"My favorite horror movie is the original Friday the 13th"...
by cheyne_stoking_DMS
This is comming from the dude who busts on everyone's taste and every thread. The original fucking sucked.
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If you take inflation, there's really not much of a difference in box office. The last few have come out in August, why not try something different? And who the hell is gearing up for Halloween in August?
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No suspense, a lazy plot and Jamie Lee Curtis wearing a worse wig than Shatner's in the Star Trek films.
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Sept. 9, 2009, 8:03 a.m. CST
Say all you want about Zombie, but do NOT dis the Shatner
by gruntybear
You have been schooled.
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Inside was a fun horror movie, but everyone get real. It's shock and gore for shock and gore's sake. Martyrs is a vastly superior film. A much deeper story (by horror standards), a screenplay that actually delivers on unexpected twists (as if the twist in Inside wasn't obvious from the opening scene), and one of the best scores in recent memory. Laugier is the man for this just like he was for the new Hellraiser. Come on Weinsteins, don't go the throwaway, forgettable slasher route again.
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which is perfect for the Weinsteins!
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H 3-D will make Zombie's movies look like masterpieces. MBV3-D may be one of the worst movies I have ever seen. So people, be careful what you wish for. I think as time goes by people will appreciate Zombie’s Halloween movies, especially when it is held up against this soon-to-be failure
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Sept. 9, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST
John Carpenter loves the remakes because he gets paid
by Dr. Hfuhruhurr
He's said so. He gets to make money while not working.
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Like James Cameron?
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I don't know where you live, but around here many stores are setting up their Halloween displays around the end of August/Labor Day. The first time I watched the original Halloween it was August, mid '90s. So it's kinda cool for me that they come out in August, but I'd rather see them released in mid-September or so.
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How many times can you watch a guy with a knife chasing some dumb broad... And you couldn't pay me to see Halloween 2 or 3 (the remakes)...
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Sept. 9, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST
Agree with you, BigTuna. HALLOWEEN 2 sucked. As for the "real" J
by thegreatwhatzit
Just a pontless sequel. The Shape stalks Jamie Lee in a hospital; medics are slashed. And that abridged synopsis is pretty padded! Chase scenes in Benny Hill black-outs are more suspenseful. As for Jamie Lee, I had the privilege of meeting her for a rushed 10-12 minutes. She was amicable, quite lovely and more profane than a sailor. Love her! But autograph seekers have enlightened me that "Ms. Curtis is quite rude and impatient, she'll very reluctantly cooperate for one--and only one--autograph." Go figure.
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Not only that, but Rob Zombie clearly didn't know what the fuck he was doing. If the point of his first was to "humanize" michael and no longer make him pure evil, then why could he take 5 shots to the chest and a baseball bat to the head?
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The first part of original Halloween II is a very well done MOOD of that late,after midnight Halloween horror. "You don't know what death is..." It does a good job of making the dark streets of Haddonfield very creepy. When the action moved to the hospital stuff, it lost a lot of its creep. (Although that had to be the DARKEST damn hospital in history!) Bottom line, the movie was entertaining. Loomis was in fine form,Myers was shot 5 more times, and then twice more IN THE EYES and then burned to a crisp. END OF MICHAEL MYERS. This is why i could never get into Halloween 4-6. I could never get over the fact that the body...the Myers body that was possessed or animated or whatever...was pretty useless by the end of Halloween II. They had him on LIFE support and in a coma at the beginning of Halloween 4????!!! he got his eyes shot out!!! Bullets in his brain!!!! Really....I just couldn't get past it.
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I agree, it sucks and it's an embarrassment compared to the original. Thank God Carpenter decided on the Irish themed Halloween III.
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