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McFarlane's TWISTED LAND OF OZ Movie Still Pressing Forward?!
Merrick here...
Strangely, I was just thinking abut this project the other day. It had been a while since we'd heard anything about Todd McFarlane's efforts to build a live-action movie around his TWISTED LAND OF OZ toy line (HERE), so I assumed this had gone then way of the dinosaurs.
Guess not.
In a recent discussion with Empire, McFarlane talked about the project's status. While not exactly barreling forward, it still seems to be very much alive.
On the state of the script: They're on their second iteration right now, trying to get it into a zone that makes sense. Josh Olsen wrote a draft that didn't quite strike Warners fancy. Everyone was a little lukewarm. They wanted it more sexy! So they were going to do a rewrite and get some fresh eyes on it.
...says McFarlane HERE.
With so many WIZARD OF OZ projects swirling around (Sci Fi's recent TIN MAN, John Boorman's mysterious CG adaptation, and one or two more that escape my mind at the moment) I've long ago given up protesting further adaptations and variations of this property.
This said, in the Pantheon of the Unnecessary, TWISTED seems more interesting to me than others - although I suspect it'll be significantly diluted by Warners. But if they went bat shit crazy with it? That could be at least amusing, in a "I can't believe they did that"/"That's so fucked up, show me more!" sorta way...
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In other words, it was a decent script. They just couldn't figure out how they were to market it.
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Third fresh-eyed iteration zone of non-lukewarm sexy-time! No thanks, Todd.
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is usually just some loser with no originality.
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I agree. Just like the word "extreme."
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we don't need an oz movie from him
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Todd McFarlane's "Goth Version of a Classic!" It'll make literally tens of hundreds of dollars!
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that he doesn't know how to play but only bought it cause he's rich? DOUCH!
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Gotta be darker. Dirtier. Sexier! Umm, why? ... It's cool. It speaks to "today". Yaaawn.
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His toys are weak. Please give me more Halo figures with different paint jobs! Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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'More sexy!' This makes me think of that sequence at the beginning of Jackson's 'King Kong'... "Will there be boobies?" "Boobies!?" Credibility deficit ahoy me hearties...
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Skimpy outfits, tits n ass, the works...oh and flying monkey rape
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Sep 03, 2009 12:23:48 PM CDT
Needs to be more "EXTREME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by crackerfarmboy
With big breasted, half naked women, baby eating animals, violence, pornography, and mass murder! Just like your "over the top toys", like "killer" Santa Claus. Mr. McFarlane you are truly so creative and modern! How is that "super dark and twisted" Spawn script coming that you've been talking about for the last 10 years?
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Has been saying everything he has ever been involved with is going to become a movie at some point. He's even talked about hockey coming back.
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Ok, we like the idea Wizzard of Oz is hot right now...now just put a vampire story in it and we will turn it into gold.
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I hope it's also "dark" and "extreme" and "disturbing". If this world needs anything it's more dark, extreme, disturbing, twisted reinterpretations of our childhood favorites.
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Sep 03, 2009 12:28:52 PM CDT
Mfarlane paid 1 million for Macs 70th HR ball, EPIC FAIL!
by ganymede3010
Also, I'm sick of Todd always telling us one of his movies are about to come out, but they never do. However, I do own every season of Spawn, he'll always be a legend in my cruel world for delivering that masterpiece.
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I'm not big fan of these toys. I like McFarlane a lot, but just not this line. It just looks weird to me. I wouldn't want to see these in a movie.
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....it's going to be a porno I'm not intersted....seriously...did you see the figures...it's begging to be a porno....
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His webline... advantageous!
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didn't this mcfarland schmuck disappear after that big hollywood spawn movie failed? todd is a has-been. he should stick to wasting all his money on bullshit sports memorabilia
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A straight-up Oz series would be awesome. Forget the weird ideas for adaptations and just go Harry Potter on it. Market it by paying homage to the musical and forget that "Return to Oz" (as great as it was) ever happened.
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How many years has it been???
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Sep 03, 2009 12:38:52 PM CDT
Somebody needs to take an inherently dark and twisted story...
by margot_tenenbaum
...and turn it into a life-affirming family film. Blue Velvet Babies. That's the new perversity.
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All except for Toto. I don't know how the fuck that slug-thing works into the story. The whole bondage Dorothy is an interesting take. I especially love the Wizard's design.But of course, design work usually comes AFTER you actually have the script hammered out. And after all, that's the most important part. Fantastic designs in a shit movie is just a waste.
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how 'bout a film adaptation of wicked - plenty of sexin' what with the pleasure faith and Elfie and Fiaro gettin' it on in the abandoned building. I wanna see some woman-on-tiger-on-munchkin action!
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McFarlane's a hasbeen.
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Sep 03, 2009 1:07:15 PM CDT
who cares when Netyri is fucking our eyeballs in 2009
by sherlock_junior
http://tiny.cc/fSkom
fucking our eyeballs, no matter how many times haters will call her a thundersmurf or whatever -
arent they making some kind of epic war movie based around a siege of the emerald city in Oz? that sounds cooler than a spawn-ified burton rip off of Oz
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On this site, makes me think they need to do this to Fanstatic Four...or just her character at least.
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Sep 03, 2009 1:25:28 PM CDT
Hatter M would be a more worthwhile movie to make.
by nerd_rage_retard_strength
yes it would
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avatar will suck.
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Tim Burton's take on the Land of OZ, that would be sick!
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And we ALL know who would be cast as Dorothy.
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I've been looking forward to this. I think the world of Oz can be reimagined countless times and can still be seen in a fresh way.
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I don't know why McFarlane would want to do this in live action.
What would really get the attention of people is something akin to his Pearl Jam Do The Evolution video. -
Crocodile done deal.
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And he will NEVER finish it off. Let him play with his fucking toys. It is amazing that he still gets any press. His comic Spawn is ass and has been for at least 10 years. Todd will NOT produce another film EVER.
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And a lot of midget lesbians.
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EXTREME!!!!!
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Yeah I don't either.
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about a portal or rift that opens between the worlds of Oz and Alice's Wonderland. The plot should be either of these 2 scenarios. The 2 good sides from both worlds unite to fight the 2 bad sides. Or all the characters from their own world team up to do battle with the other world. Either these 2 books are ripe for a fucking crossover.
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nothing
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Sep 03, 2009 2:52:05 PM CDT
Why does Todd McFarlane think people give a crap about him?
by thanos0145
Go play with your worthless McGwire and Sosa balls.
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It's a brand new recipe of Utter Fail-And that new haevy metal movie was an utter Suckton of Lame.
Cool-I'm sure Burtons shaking in his leggings. -
doing the Werewolves of London.
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...the ending credits.
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Sep 03, 2009 3:08:33 PM CDT
For a moment, I thought this referred to SETH MacFarlane
by nasty in the pasty
You know, just like the time I was playing with my Transformers (smash-cut to Transformers masturbating]
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I'm certainly not debating that. If you get the chance, check out Tod McFarlane: The Devil You Know. It's 90 minutes of him telling us how wonderful he is and how fucked up the rest of the universe is. It's pretty entertaining in a detatched, bemusing way. Watching his fanboys buying cratefuls of some limited edition doll they already have 50 of, but this one has a dash of yellow on it, it precious.
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Yeah, Baum's texts were "darker" than the MGM classic film, but "The Wizard of Oz" is one of the best loved, family friendly films of all time. Why doesn't Pixar or somebody just do a straight up sequel to the original Judy Garland film?
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mcfartlane = legend in his own mind. i hope for the sake of all humanity the military has constructed some kind of protective barrier between him and leifeld so they can never colaborate.
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Cameron never let me down, he has a 100% track record, even his lesser films are still impressive. So yeah that's where I come from. Why do you think it will suck. Aliens and T1/T2 are timeless classic sci-fi actioners with so many iconic moments and convincing action sequences that always ring true. Logic comes to mind. No why would he fuck up a 300 mil 15 year in the making dream of a movie.
You are just negative for the sake of it OR you just don't like his movies in general.
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Since I'm already bored talking about McFarlane.Wanna know why T2 is weak sauce? First of all, he takes the biggest badass teh silver screen had ever seen....and makes him a child's plaything. He's essentially turned into a puppy. He's a terminator that asks why we cry, gives the thumbs up and doesn't kill. Talk about fucking imasculating!The Terminator is completely air-tight but T2 is filled with plot holes. First of all, who wants to point out which part of the T-1000 is organic? Remember that the time displacement device works off the field generated by a living organism...but the T-1000 is 100% liquid metal. PLOT HOLE!And I'm sorry but when a terminator is programmed to follow your commands and you tell him to stop....he fucking stops! He sure as fuck doesn't say "I'm sorry John, I have to go away." What the fuck is that happy horseshit!?
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always seems to be lost in translation. The toys are the only thing that seems to translate at all. Spawn movie=terrible. Spawn cartoon=boring. I loved his Spiderman and followed him to Spawn when i was a kid. Never cared about anything other than the books cause everything else looks bad. He has a style. It has potential. Then again..so did Transformers 2.
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There has only been one good Wizard of Oz movie and it was for kids. The books were made for kids. If Warner Brothers goes through with this they will have a major disaster on their hands.
I don't see a single character in the Todd McFarlane figures that can be likable or that can propel a story. There is a whole series of Frank L. Baum books that haven't been tapped. The problem with the series is that the Wizard of Oz was the best book out of the lot, but bits and pieces can be taken out of several books to put together something special. If they do it right it can be a series of movies that will outshine the Harry Potter series. But to work, the new series has to have the same feel as the first movie but with updated popular music.
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interesting points and opinions REVENGE_of_FETT
, but I do look at the same aspects in a different way,
Wanna know why T2 is weak sauce? First of all, he takes the biggest badass teh silver screen had ever seen....and makes him a child's plaything. He's essentially turned into a puppy. He's a terminator that asks why we cry, gives the thumbs up and doesn't kill. Talk about fucking imasculating!
T2 had an iconic and supercool bad guy in Robert Patrick. Arnie already played the baddie in part 1. So casting him as the good guy was refreshing and new, something directors should get CREDS for, not whining about.
And I'm sorry but when a terminator is programmed to follow your commands and you tell him to stop....he fucking stops! He sure as fuck doesn't say "I'm sorry John, I have to go away." What the fuck is that happy horseshit!?
He was also programmed to destroy ALL the chips. So yeah in fact he was a moving chip, so had to destroy himself, that rule overruled the John Conner commands, because the war had to be prevented at all costs. He was also capable of learning which is why he could learn and use words that seam humanlike like ‘sorry’. No horse shit to me.
the plothole about the timetraveling is fair, but not distracting for the story and you could even argue that Skynet had more timetravel machinery updatings. (like the T-1000 was an update too)
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interesting points and opinions REVENGE_of_FETT
, but I do look at the same aspects in a different way,
Wanna know why T2 is weak sauce? First of all, he takes the biggest badass teh silver screen had ever seen....and makes him a child's plaything. He's essentially turned into a puppy. He's a terminator that asks why we cry, gives the thumbs up and doesn't kill. Talk about fucking imasculating!
T2 had an iconic and supercool bad guy in Robert Patrick. Arnie already played the baddie in part 1. So casting him as the good guy was refreshing and new, something directors should get CREDS for, not whining about.
And I'm sorry but when a terminator is programmed to follow your commands and you tell him to stop....he fucking stops! He sure as fuck doesn't say "I'm sorry John, I have to go away." What the fuck is that happy horseshit!?
He was also programmed to destroy ALL the chips. So yeah in fact he was a moving chip, so had to destroy himself, that rule overruled the John Conner commands, because the war had to be prevented at all costs. He was also capable of learning which is why he could learn and use words that seam humanlike like ‘sorry’. No horse shit to me.
the plothole about the timetraveling is fair, but not distracting for the story and you could even argue that Skynet had more timetravel machinery updatings. (like the T-1000 was an update too)
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children's classic Clifford the Big Red Dog. In it, Clifford goes on a rampage destroying a city and eating a bunch of people. Burton get your ass on it.
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Sep 03, 2009 4:49:50 PM CDT
They should of made a live action version of the HBO series.
by ganymede3010
That's why Spawn will continue to fail into eternity. The HBO storyline was flawless. The villains were also done with perfection. Tony Twist, Overkill, Bobby Chapel, Billy Kinkaid. How can you not include those villains into the live action movie? Last but not least. Sam and Twitch should of been in the movie also. Mcfarlene is a fucking moron.
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Sep 03, 2009 5:08:01 PM CDT
McFarlane Ain't Got A Pot To Piss In . . .
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
Spawn news and then Twisted Oz news? The guys been dead for ten years, creativly speaking. He's just spewin this shit to see what games left in town. If we're lucky no ones stupid enough to bite. I doubt either movie ever gets made.
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... "HOP ON POP" by Dr Seuss. Dennis Hopper is Pop, Ed Norton as "Hop". Ed curb-stomps Dennis' head, then throws his guts around. Then he f*cks Charlize Theron's brains out. It's dark, it's edgy. It's totally cool. It's a re-invention for today's generation.
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t2 is not a classic by any means. its only well known for its cgi effects. other than that it sucked. it was the beginning of the end for the terminator franchise. it was like the "batman & robin" of the terminator series
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james cameron is the new george lucas. you'll see in december
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Instead of making some "clever" edgy variation of some property, how about something original? Make it more "sexy"? Stupid shit.
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where Spawn crashes down through the ceiling with his fucking cape going all over the place is some of the shittiest CGI work I've ever seen.I used to be a fan of the Spawn comics from like issues 1 - 5, then it just started getting really fucking confusing and stupid.
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MacFarlane kind of reminds me of Spinal Tap without the laughs and the music... "treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality"
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really fucking confusing. I guess I'm not brainy enough to understand or follow what the fuck is going on with Green Lantern.
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but this guy revolutionized the toy industry like a MO-FO back in the mid 90's. Remember going into Suncoast or some comic store and seeing The Max and The Freak and the Dark Ages and Samurai Spawn shit? Suddenly it was like, "Yeah, we know you're 24, and we know that you know that you want this, so fuck it, buy it". But I never did. But I bought the fuck out of those new Star Wars figs in the 90's!
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Yes, I argue that he ruined it all. Before, it was all about little toys sold to kids, and a few adult collectors would buy them for fun and to decorate their cubicles with. But, overall, these items were still inherently playthings/toys devised for children to PLAY with.McFarlane, along with Playmates and their Star Trek line, ruined it all by exploiting the idea of "collectability." None of the figures that McFarlane Toys produced were actually toys -- they were just fetishy pieces of plastic. And nowadays, Hasbro and Mattel crank out action figures and dolls that are usually not geared towards kids, and if they are, they seem unable to keep them in stock (because grown-ups buy them up). Mattel is the worst offender.
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That should sex it up a bit.
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For fuck's sake, how hard can it be for someone to greenlight a series of Oz movies?? There would be a huge audience for them, I think, and the movies could be so good if made by the right people. I would love to see directors work together on the series, like how Spielberg and Jackson are working on Tintin. Del Toro could direct one, Alfonso Cuaron another, Jackson could do one, Tim Burton, the Berg himself. The LOTR writing team could pen the screenplay of at least one of them. The scripts might be difficult to get right but they would be well worth doing, I'm sure.
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Damn straight! Oz is wonderful enough with arsing about with it.
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Sep 03, 2009 6:55:03 PM CDT
will munny, the review was just two words...
by nerd_rage_retard_strength
shit sandwich
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Just make Toto a wise-crackin' rappin' dog voiced by Chris Tucker. Oh, it'll be golden.
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or are they just licensing the shit out of the IP?
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I was watching that the other day and it's still brilliant.
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According to what I am reading online, most of the Oz books are in the public domain (and can be read online).
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...For those who didnt care enough to click on the link above to the Oz Toy site- her is what it contains...
Dorothy:
"Bound and Blindfolded, This exotic Dorothy is being Branded by a group of Evil Little Munchkins. She may never find her way back to Kansas." - In S&M gear, being led around on a leash by two midgets with Down's Syndrome-
Cowardly Lion:
"The teeth alone on this vicious Beast would strike Terror into any mere Mortal Being."
- the concept drawing has a zombified, one-limbed lion with it's tail dragging along in a steel trap and it's guts slithering out of its torn open stomach-
Scarecrow:
"Dressed in tatters, Scarecrow is about to fall apart...If he isnt Ravaged By Birds First."
-includes a decapiated human head dangling from a stick-
Tin Man:
"He may not have a heart, but this Bio-mechanical Tin Woodman has an AX and Robotic arm Appendage that more than make up for it"
- shambling corpse with crude metal plates fused to his body, wielding an axe and a gory-covered chainsaw.
Toto:
"Nothing like this creature ever existed in Kansas. Less a canine than a monstrous four-legged nightmare." - A giant mutant dog with a skull-faced little imp riding on its back-
..do we really need this unimaginative bullshit polluting our freshly Avatar-fucked Eyeballs? I think not. Imagine a hundred years from now when Star Wars is Public Domain and a million assholes are bombarding people with Their shitty Interpretations- let's stop this nonsense now and demand more creativity from these fucking hacks. -
Thats all this will be.
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of prude conservatives. Let her tits hang out. Let the blood fly. I'm a big boy.
Fuck the kids
Fuck the kids
Fuck the kids
Fuck yeah yeah
Fuck the kids
Fuck the kids
Fuck the kids
Fuck yeah yeah
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Is because it replicates living tissue. If you touch it it still feels human. It is still made up of the same density and composition. I also doubt there is a lot of difference between synthetically engineered flesh.
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...I never said i was a prude or a conservative..I just expect better ideas from people who are being paid millions of dollars to "Entertain". This a stupid, hacky idea.
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Big Momma, Boondocks II, and now McFarlane, King of the one-hit property douchebags. Now that NECA drinks his milkshake, McFarlane has nothing to fall back on but a tired legacy. People hate Rob Leffield, but at least he had the grace to fade into obscurity. Todd went out and bought pianos and home run baseballs from roided sports heroes, and his unpurchased action figures based on increasingly irrelevant properties now clog the clearance aisle at your local Wal Mart.
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The original Tin Man's origin was pretty twisted.
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I've been waiting for a big-screen adaptation of the toy line since Day 1. BRING IT!
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Sep 03, 2009 10:05:32 PM CDT
This will never get made and what's wrong with you people? T2 w
by beane2099
What am I seeing here? T2 is awesome as hell! It's a classic. How...I thought this was universally loved. Guess I was wrong. And as far as all of Cameron's films being great...uhm, Piranah II anyone? Flying Piranahs? Just saying.
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...when I was in high school, long ago. I have them in a box somewhere, but they were pretty badass back then.
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The blogosphere has been abuzz with reports that Mila Kunis and Natalie Portman (who play "rival ballerinas") will engage in quite the racy girl-on-girl love scene in the upcoming thriller "Black Swan," and Kunis certainly didn’t deny it when we caught up with her last week’s Hollywood premiere of "Extract." ...I'm just sayin'.
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The only reason he had any interest in the chips at all was because John Connor told him to help destroy them. As in, because he was following orders.
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he apes frank miller too much, but come across like the writing of a child. his idea of dark is juvenile and unoriginal. his dialogs are painful, and plots go around in circles. just a shitty writer, by any standard. and now he's writing the script for spawn 2. apparently he still thinks he can write.
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mcf toys were cool when he was still grabbing cool movies licenses left and right. i was a mcf collector from the beginning. but after steering the company into a wrong turn and refusing to heed the fans warnings, after one failed cartoon license after another(which was obviously bad ideas to everyone else but todd), after treating the sculptors like shit, and flat out REFUSE to compete with neca and just tuck away its tail and hide in a corner... most fans just dont give a damn anymore about mcf.
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"WAAAAAAAOOOOH....YOU COULD BE MYYYYYYIIIIINNNEEEEEEE!"
God I fucking hate that retarded assed song! And it REALLY dates the movie. Just fuckign STUPID to make it so prominant in the movie. It makes it feel like a Guns N Roses music video and not a hardcore sci fi film. -
It was heard on screen for about thirty seconds if that. You really are reaching for shit to complain about. -
And/or he's confused as to what year it is
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First news of of Spawn coming back and now this? Is it the 90's again?!?! The only good thing that McFarlane has done are the toys. But I haven't heard of anything from McFarlane for years. You know this project is going to fall threw, just like all his other projects.
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Sep 05, 2009 11:09:49 AM CDT
wow i didn't realize this until i read the comments, but....
by tattoodrake
WOW!! Almost every single person who left a comment on here seems to just absolutely HATE Mcfarlane!
I knew there were some Mcfarlane haters out there, but I didn't realize there were so many of you til now!
Hell, I don't know... maybe its just the internet people who hate him, or maybe its just the people on this site who hate him &are just super vocal about it or something. Who knows..
Anyways, it seems to me that he would have to have quite a few people out there that dig what he does, or else he wouldn't have been able to still sustain such a successful career for this long... And to still be relevant enough to be coming out with new stuff all the time...
and to still be doing well enough that it hasn't had to ever come down to him in a seat on the bus staring straight ahead &hiding behind big dark sunglasses with tears running down his face while he clutches a bag with his beloved baseball collection in it as he rides all bummed out on the way to the pawn shop so he can pay the park the overdue lot rent he owes... umm.. yeah, sorry. was having a little fun with that one &got carried away lol
Everyone is entitled to their opinion &to like what they want to like &all that, but this honestly came as a shock to me because I thoroughly enjoy most of his stuff, &was under the impression most other people did also.
I thought the Spawn comics were so frickin awesome when they came out! And now, here It is 17 years later and I still think its an awesome original character &comic &I still read it every month to this day. I like it in many ways, but what stands out to me mostly how its so good at character development ¬ scared to be un-pc. But also for the way the comic reads, meaning the way it seems more like a movie than a comic.
And no one can deny that his toys aren't frickin sick though! if you say you don't like the way his toys look, then you really are just hatin for no reason. before mcfarlane, action figures all looked just like that.. an action figure, aka a boys doll lol
But what mcfarlane made and makes aren't geared towards being little boys dolls.The toys he makes are more like remarkably detailed sculptures &actual pieces of art to be proudly displayed. He took the characters we love so much, &practically brought them to life with all the attention to detail that was put into them.
So hate on him if you want too, but I'll go ahead &be the rare one who thinks he kicks a** on here.
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He has talent but his writing is incredibly shallow and tacky. Remember when you were in Highschool and you'd occasionally be put into groups to collaborate on creative assignements, writing, art, etc. And there would always be that one guy in the group who's only contribution is something the lines of 'then it would be cool if he turned out to be like a child molester, but then the kid rips the child molesters dick off and feeds it to his dog'. And you all just stare at him for a sec and then go back to what you were talking about? Yeah, that guy is Todd McFarlane. His art is great, and what he's done with the toy industry is fantastic, but man, someone needs to take that guys typewriter away.
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Oz now is now in early stages of pre-production/dev hell...weirdest news is...Dakota Fanning is attached to be in the movie! (no, you won't find this info at IMDB, not yet - and, no I don't know what part she might be playing)
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i totally get what your saying.. really do.you know how people put 'lol' as a punctuation nowadays? well, i mean it when i say that really did make me lol
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