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RE-UPDATE!! Spider-Man, Thor, Captain America, The Fantastic Four, And Friends Have All Been Owned By Mickey Mouse!!
Quint here. Also check out this Tweet from Marvel's Editor-In-Chief Joe Quesada: JoeQuesada: If you're familiar with the Disney/Pixar relationship, then you'll understand why this is a new dawn for Marvel and the comics industry. Could Marvel really have the same degree of freedom that John Lasseter and Pixar have? I mean, they literally put Lasseter in charge when that deal happened. Curious, but good news!
Merrick again... The following is from ComingSoon.Net (HERE), pertaining to details revealed during a stock holder conference call if I'm not mistaken. UPDATE #1: In a conference call, the companies said that the deals for movies for characters at other studios (Spider-Man, X-Men, etc.) will stay in place under the terms set by Marvel and the other studios. UPDATE #2: John Lasseter met with Marvel last week about a possible team-up between Marvel and Pixar and got "pretty excited, pretty fast." They say there's definitely an opportunity there. UPDATE #3: The deal with Paramount Pictures to distribute "Iron Man 2," "Thor," "Captain America" and "The Avengers" stays in place as well, but Disney would like to self-distribute down the line. "When the time comes we'll take a closer look at it." Thanks to Talkbacker Garbage Man for the heads up...
Merrick here...
Disney is moving to assimilate Marvel and "and its portfolio of over 5,000 characters" for approx $4 billion.
Here's a snippet of a press release found at Disney's corporate site (HERE).
August 31, 2009
DISNEY TO ACQUIRE MARVEL ENTERTAINMENT
Worldwide leader in family entertainment agrees to acquire Marvel and its portfolio of over 5,000 characters
Acquisition highlights Disney's strategic focus on quality branded content, technological innovation and international expansion to build long-term shareholder value
Burbank, CA and New York, NY, August 31, 2009 —Building on its strategy of delivering quality branded content to people around the world, The Walt Disney Company (NYSE:DIS) has agreed to acquire Marvel Entertainment, Inc. (NYSE:MVL) in a stock and cash transaction, the companies announced today.
Under the terms of the agreement and based on the closing price of Disney on August 28, 2009, Marvel shareholders would receive a total of $30 per share in cash plus approximately 0.745 Disney shares for each Marvel share they own. At closing, the amount of cash and stock will be adjusted if necessary so that the total value of the Disney stock issued as merger consideration based on its trading value at that time is not less than 40% of the total merger consideration.
Based on the closing price of Disney stock on Friday, August 28, the transaction value is $50 per Marvel share or approximately $4 billion.
"This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories," said Robert A. Iger, President and Chief Executive Officer of The Walt Disney Company. "Ike Perlmutter and his team have done an impressive job of nurturing these properties and have created significant value. We are pleased to bring this talent and these great assets to Disney."
"We believe that adding Marvel to Disney's unique portfolio of brands provides significant opportunities for long-term growth and value creation," Iger said.
"Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses," said Ike Perlmutter, Marvel's Chief Executive Officer. "This is an unparalleled opportunity for Marvel to build upon its vibrant brand and character properties by accessing Disney's tremendous global organization and infrastructure around the world."
Under the deal, Disney will acquire ownership of Marvel including its more than 5,000 Marvel characters. Mr. Perlmutter will oversee the Marvel properties, and will work directly with Disney's global lines of business to build and further integrate Marvel's properties.
The Boards of Directors of Disney and Marvel have each approved the transaction, which is subject to clearance under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Antitrust Improvements Act, certain non-United States merger control regulations, effectiveness of a registration statement with respect to Disney shares issued in the transaction and other customary closing conditions. The agreement will require the approval of Marvel shareholders. Marvel was advised on the transaction by BofA Merrill Lynch.
More merger information can be found via the Wall Street Journal HERE.
I'm really not sure what to say here, except 1) I smell some interesting theme park rides in our future, and 2) I wonder who would win in a fight between Iron Man and Emperor Zurg?
There are so many questions here: what does this mean for comics-to-film/TV projects currently in development? I'm assuming many will move FWD as contracted/planned, but future installments (sequels and what not) could end up being bounced back to Disney? I.e. IRON MAN 2 is clearly being issued by Paramount, but might IRON MAN 3 potentially be a Disney release? Would HULK remain a Universal interest, or will Mickey now have his way with him? I'm guessing this will differ on a case by case basis - informed by whatever agreements are currently in place? How does this impact Disney's synergy with companies like Pixar? Will we now see Marvel-based CG extravaganzas? Or, if Pixar's gravitating towards live action...? And, to what extent will Marvel remain relatively autonimouse (sorry, I couldn't resist)?
Someone explain before my head explodes!
We'll UPDATE as more details become available...
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I don't think this is good news in any way.
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NO MOUSE EARS ON DOCTOR DOOM !
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The Punisher: The Ride
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That's my favourite place on the planet...will it close ? Will it relocate ?
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yeah
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Can't wait for the "Marvel vs. Disney" videogames. Imagine Donald highkicking Iron Man in the face.
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fucking slow-ass internet strikes again...
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It's called "It's a Small World"
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To Fox, Sony, and Paramount, will they have to share profit with Disney on the X-men, Spiderman, and Iron Man film franchises, or will the rights revert back to Disney, if so, when?
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Hopefully this will be similar to when disney took over Pixar. I hope they allow they to still be semi-autonomous developing properties...
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Hulk Smash on Mickey. So good...
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Steamboat Willie meets Captain America. <P> Good this means that Pixar can make awesome Marvel movies now, instead of the crap Marvel is making.
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they wanna tell us it's all about business and the use of corporate infrastructures, as in: they're not gonna fuck around with marvel's intellectual properties, but I wonder if that's gonna hold up. I really like that marvel delivers some grittier stuff as well as the popcorn cinema, family friendly superheroes. So I hope Disney's just gonna let 'em continue doing their thing - which after all is what made marvel worth the 4 billion dollars(fuck, that's a lot!) disney paid...
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Are you serious? Are you kidding me? IS this a dark day of impending doom? <p> Or a good thing? I have no fucking idea what to think here... my mind... has been boggled.
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This is the end of Marvel films being any good- Marvel could do things their own way- Well not anymore-
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Me likey!
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these cartoon bitches. Minnie, daisy, all those f'n princesses hell even the little slut from rescue rangers.
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now that marvel will be "disneyfied" fans will have to go back to indie books to find anything good.
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Can't think of another marvel comic more appropriate to their style
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And She-Hulk talks personal grooming and how men suck on THE VIEW. FUCK DISNEY.
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seriously. wtf?
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I can see it now. Goofy as War Machine, Micky as Iron Man, Minnie as Elektra....
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Was owned by Disney. Or promoted their new release in Disneyworld or something like that.
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What happens to Iron Man, X-Men, Spider-Man etc now? If Disney owns them all doesn't that mean those other studios' series die instantly or become Disney's?
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Also, I imagine we might get some good ABC shows. But what happens to everything that's already in production like the anime series, movies and video games?
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For a short time.
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When will the madness end?!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST
This proves further that Disney has no creative development
by YackBacker
They buy PIXAR and MARVEL because they can't come up with shit on their own.
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For this to make any real difference. Expect a guy dressed in a Spiderman suit to make an appearance on Wizard's of Waverly Place soon, and a Marvel-themed episode of The Suite Life on Deck with Zach and Cody. It's a costume, party, see, but after dressing up as the incredible Hulk, Zach can't get his mask off . . . hilarious hi-jinks ensue!<br><br>I am looking forward to seeing Miley Cyrus in the Wonder Woman tights. Come on, you know it's gonna happen.<br><br>Oh, and Avenger Babies. Help the Avengers solve educational puzzles!
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One of the interesting things was that marvel was always an independent entity. Yes, Toy Biz had em for a while, and there was the whole junk bond thing in the early 90's, but Marvel was always percieved as the smaller, independent, and more authentic company- which helped its success. DC was part of Time/Warner/AOL/Whatever they call themselves now. DC had that giant corporate umbrella as a support structure. It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the next few years- especially when the current movie deals expire/get produced. Will marvel continue releasing through other distributors or is it Disney all the way? Does this mean we get a Marvel vs Disney video game? Will Marvel Comics start a new Disney imprint?
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Wow. That's big news.
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So one of the most argueably conservative corporations in the world is going to have oversight of all of Marvel Properties from now till the end of time? And you thought it sucked when FOX sucked up Marvel Properties. Man this is going to blow monkeys BIG TIME.
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Pretty smart logic, actually. They get credit for other peoples work.
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Who knew Marvel had that many??? Good lord. I bet 90 per cent of those are X-Men mutants. :) http://nickleshi.blogspot.com
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current contracts that Marvel has with other studios will stay in place. now, weather or not Disney rakes in some of the profits to these films, I dunno, although I would imagine somehow they will.
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Marvel has never been perfect. They've brought us some rather idiotic storylines, and even worse films. Disney's films have a much better track record than Marvel's.<p> For those thinking this will kill mature content in Marvel properties, forget it. Marvel's Iron Man, the best movie Marvel's released was only a PG-13. And no one will dare try censoring the books. That's just bad press.
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GizmoDuck vs. Dr. Doom or Darkwing Duck vs. Bullseye or perhaps Spider-Man rescued by the Rescue Rangers.
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The Secret Life of the American Super Hero? A Secret Wars mini-series (ick).<br><br>A Twilight-Zonish "What If?" series would be cool. You know, what if Spiderman joined the fantastic four, what if Uncle Ben hadn't died, what if Rick Jones had taken the gamma bomb blast instead of the Hulk, what if dude's girlfriend had picked up Thor's hammer instead . . . I'd watch that show.
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so long as the keep it pg-13. A Doctor Strange and Inhumans movies could rock in CGI animation.
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how many scenes of urban destruction we'll see with lonely little suspiciously rodent-shaped balloons hovering above them. . .
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Given the struggling California Adventure park, the ultimate corporate mistake that was, instead of "re-theming" it, they should rip it out and build a Marvel theme park. You could have . . . 1)A Manhattan "land" with Avenger's Mansion, Four Freedoms Plaza, etc. 2) Latveria "land" with Dr. Doom's castle as the ride's line que. 3) Asgard "land" with Thor and company. The current "Hollywood" area could easily become Manhattan, and just change "paradise pier" into Coney Island (and finally have a fucking way to walk between those two areas instead of having to go all the way around!!!--just make a connection next to the Tower of Terror). Funny: Disney didn't initially put a Pirates ride into Disney World because Florida was "too close to the real Caribbean", yet they put California in California. Well, now it's time to gut California and make it the Marvel park! Oh, and doesn't Marvel own DC? That said, "Condor Flats" could become a place for Hal Jordon's Green Lantern ride (take one of the two "Soarin' Over California" venues and make it a superhero trip through outer space and alien worlds).
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YAY!!!
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This press release only addresses Marvel Entertainment, which I believe is seperate from Marvel Comics.
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I'm cool with Tron fighting Dr. Doom. Or Mickey Mouse taking down Galactus. That stuff can be fun in the video game realm. I'm expecting we'll see a resurgence of Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider Ham.
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NUFF SAID
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I own Disney stock, and as I'd expect, this did nothing for Disney. In the long run, I'm not sure that Disney-owned marvel will be good for Marvel characters, especially some of the darker themes that tend to pop up. Even so, ABC owned disney hasn't been such a softy, but still, you wonder about plush Marvel toys or men-in-suits at Epcot. Hmm.
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It is one of the best rides in Florida, besides the other Marvel rides in Universal orlando? Are they going to have to shut them down?
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- made Marvel films ARE closer to fruition than ever before. Fantastic Four, anyone?
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Multi-Billion dollar make over. It would probably be the last place to see a Marvel-themed ride, much less complete make-over.<br><br>Lots of stuff could be done in Orlando. Hollywood Studios could use some new rides or 3d movie attractions. I think they closed Pleasure Island. Open it back up with something other than stores and bars, and maybe it might be more interesting. Just sayin'.
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Wasn't the old "Dungeons & Dragons" cartoon made by Marvel animation studios? So, now we could finally have that ride! If you watch the credits, clearly the theme park of that show was based on Disneyland (the riverboat is a dead giveaway), with D&D being placed pretty much where Pirates or the Haunted Mansion would be.
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That's quite the turnaround. <p> Very, very curious what this might mean in the long term. Will it grease the wheels for financing at Marvel Studios? Will The Mouse keep its twitchy little nose out of creative or will The Punisher be suddenly Disneyfied? Will this mean a more cohesive film/TV Marvel Universe? Will Spider-Man try to creepily hug me at Disneyland? <p> It will certainly be strange to see Marvel merchandise (or better still, comics) at a Disney store.
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Yes, I wondered that, too. Universal Orlando has a Marvel-themed land, and rides, including that popular Spider-man ride. Maybe they have to honor their contract, but after it's done, does Disney @#$% over their theme park competition?
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Fox and Sony both liscence their respective franchises and all that means is that their liscense fees and profit sharing will go up the chain to Disney. Everythign remains the same as it was. The only difference is that the profits will go to Disney now instead of divided out among the shareholders.
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To be released by Marvel Studios/Walt Disney. There aren't going to be any computer animated Marvel superhero films. Might be some live action, if Pixar's live action stuff does well. But I seriously doubt Disney, or Pixar, will want to mix brands.
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Marvel's already got "Super Hero Squad," cute little kiddie versions of the characters in toys, comics and soon to be a cartoon series. They're already making themselves all cute.
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Yeah, California Adventure cost a billion, and it's got a two-billion dollar makeover in the works, but that park only made bank its first year in operation, and every year since it's been a money loser. If Disney can throw four billion at Marvel, certainly rebuilding DCA as a Marvel park would only cost an additional billion (which they clearly have). In effect, it would be CHEAPER to build a new park from the ground up than to re-theme it was they're doing. I.E. building a Marvel park would, by their own numbers, save them a billion dollars!
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Now we can look forward to Iron Boy straight-to-DVD and Spider-Man meets Cinderella and equally stupid shit. Disney hasn't made a MOVIE in years, they make product tie-ins and that's all they make. Sad day.
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This can only be a good thing for Marvel fans by having this huge network of support and Disney's deep pockets. The Marvel studio has always been 1 flop (maybe 2) away from bankruptcy court. Oh, and I'd love to know what kind of ideas are rolling through Lassiter's mind this morning.
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With Marvel characters from Pixar. I meant to say. I'm sure Disney will have lots of CGI Marvel stuff, it'll just be from Walt Disney (ala Bolt) or Marvel Studios.
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if they can get all the rights under one house and involve the highly creative Pixar fellows....and not only for kiddies versions of the superheroes, those guys are great storytellers that must be more than ready to tackle more youth and adult material. or juvenile adult material, mayhaps.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST
In other news, DC continues its long, slow slide into obsolescen
by TheContinentalOp
In a statement, a spokesman expressed hope to "maybe shit out another Batman or Superman movie in five to seven years, if we're lucky."
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Does this mean that the Huk Coaster, Spiderman 3D and Dr. Doom's Fearfall will all have to be raised from Universal Studios Orlando and moved to Disneyworld??
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I am going to commit suicide, all because of the Disney-Marvel merger. It is the worst thing that has ever happened ever.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST
Scooped by Merrick after I scooped Harold!!
by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours
I posted this in another TB MERE MINUTES AGO!!!<p><p>The terrorists win AGAIN!!!
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Marvel Publishing, which prints Marvel Comics, is a subsidiary of Marvel Entertainment. They are not separate.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST
What happens to the Marvel rides at Universal's Islands of Adven
by turketron_2
The Hulk, Spider Man, and Dr. Doom rides are class... what's gonna happen to them? Are they still gonna keep them?
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Aug. 31, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST
Guess Disney now has a ligit place to publish its comics
by Gungan Slayer
guess now Disney Comics will be published by Marvel. ALSO---Marvel Comics is part of Marvel Entertainment, so yes, they also purchased Marvel Comics
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But not for the reasons you'd think. <br> I couldn't care less about Marvel. Mainstream superhero comics aren't my thing, and from what I've heard about recent developments, Marvel went batshit insane in the comics department, anyway. It's Disney I'm worried about. I don't want them sullied by fanboy grime and bitterness.
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Awww, crap.
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man this sucks.
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Not saying it's not possible, I'm saying Disney won't do it. The suits and Lasseter would almost certainly be opposed. I'm pretty sure they like what they're doing with DCA now. Whether they should or not . . . I wouldn't expect Marvel-themed them park projects of any kind until Disney has specific film properties out and performing in the marketplace. And complete ownership of the import trademarks and copyrights. Ergo, I don't expect to see a Disney Spiderman ride this decade.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST
All those worried about "Disneyfying" Marvel characters..
by REVENGE_of_FETT
<p>Remember that Disney owns Miramax and did own Dimension. Disney has ponied up the dough for plenty of very dark art. They've gotten a lot of crap for it at times too. I'm not worried about that at all. They're a business and they cater to larger and larger audiences.</p><p>I am wary however, of one company getting so fucking huge. Disney is MASSIVE! As diverse as Disney is, if there were some sort of major problem and they went belly-up, that would send huge waves through our economy and the entertainment industry in particular.</p>
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What's with the new screename?
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The Howard-The-Duck / Donald Duck buddy movie we've always dreamed of.
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Via Comingsoon.net: <p>UPDATE #1: In a conference call, the companies said that the deals for movies for characters at other studios (Spider-Man, X-Men, etc.) will stay in place under the terms set by Marvel and the other studios. <p>UPDATE #2: John Lasseter met with Marvel last week about a possible team-up between Marvel and Pixar and got "pretty excited, pretty fast." They say there's definitely an opportunity there <p>UPDATE #3: The deal with Paramount Pictures to distribute "Iron Man 2," "Thor," "Captain America" and "The Avengers" stays in place as well, but Disney would like to self-distribute down the line. "When the time comes we'll take a closer look at it."
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Miley Cirus as "She Hulk"?
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I think I was thinking og Wow Entertainment that Stan Lee set up a few years ago. Pretty sure that went bankrupt though.
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Someone owes me a BEER AND CHEETOS, damnit!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST
Who's going to be first to show us the "Downfall" of Marvel?
by DonQuixote
In other words, please somebody, please, make sure Bruno Ganz's Hitler chimes in on this nerve-wracking development, and soon! No doubt he'll have some choice thoughts to express about the Marvel-Disney marriage.
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Winnie The Doom - drawn in Jack Kirby style !
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST
Guys, it's not the creative decisions we should worry about but
by YackBacker
The economic ones that Disney, a gargantuan publicly-held entity, will impose on Marvel and Marvel Studios. Imagine if THOR tanks? Or if Disney brass think the two economic misses by the HULK movies (yes they both failed to make real money) does not warrant another HULK movie? Or if all of this means they don't see the value of an AVENGERS movie? You see the risk here? Now there are more cooks in the kitchen.
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Though, I'm gonna tell ya, I still think the Marvel properties will be released via Marvel Studios/Disney, rather than having the Pixar name on it. But, maybe so.<br><br>The other stuff is exactly what I'd expect.
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Now THAT would be the fucking SHIT! Not in the "kiddified" style they use now, but getting dark and gritty and much more realistic. Man oh man would that be amazing!
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Marvel execs have already met with Pixar and John Lasseter. There are definitely Marvel/Pixar films forthcoming.
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I mean seriously... oh no.
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Wonder how this affects the Marvel Island. Surely Disney would want to put those characters in their own theme park down the road.
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Just because some other companies "mishandled" it. If it's a really solid and bankable product (and Hult certainly is), I'm sure they will find something. And make money off it.
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I have been reading Marvel in trades since the debacle of Brand New Day. I think the movies have been good with the new studio minus Punisher. If you expect Disney not to screw around when the first controversial storyline hits the streets with the Catholic League and the rest goose stepping friends start picketing Times Square, think again. I do think this is the last act of Quesada as the head of Marvel. He gets a fat payout and draws from time to time. The man literally took this company from the grave made it awesome. Yet, for whatever reason, he has made one terrible decision in comics after another. I think he is out of his mind.
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Sorry, I had to.
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Disney is so devoid of any kind of creative talent that they have to buy other company's to control their ideas. I fear we will look back at this as a very sad day for Comics and the loss of the amazing things Marval Studios could have created
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Disney can't make a movie to save their collective lives. They'll suck all the creative freedom that Marvel was starting to give out and go only for the bottom line...Fuck those fucking fuckers....
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This is fucking huge. Not sure what I think of it, but the idea of Marvel and Pixar collaborating together is pretty exciting.
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Two large films, lots of marketing behind them and no profit. That does not make it a bankable product.
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"Hulk say, it's a small world after all."
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But I remain dubious until I see something. And there aren't "definitely" Marvel/Pixar films forthcoming until something is announced. John Lasseter has oversite of all the Disney movie properties, and if there are Pixar/Marvel movies in the future, I'm expecting them to fall under the live-action Pixar shingle.
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"... and what about Wolverine? Those claws aren't kid-friendly. Change them to feather dusters so he can really clean up crime. And, of course, those repulsor thingies look dangerous. Iron Man should have vacuum cleaners instead ..." *sigh*
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Hi Everyone, All existing contracts will be honored. Sony still has Spider-Man, Fox (no matter how much I hate it) still has X-Men. So the announced films will still happen. And yes, this includes Marvel Comics, which is a business unit of Marvel Entertainment.<br> <br> Personally, I don't think MVL needs Disney. MVL has plenty of cash and a sweet financing deal for their films. Disney, on the other hand, probably compared the Iron Man box office to the Narnia box office and said "oh shit". With Narnia, they were looking for a LOTR or Harry Potter type hit and didn't get it. So they need something. For Disney, the 5000 characters (OK, so we won't have a Ben Reilly movie any time soon, or a Gateway movie any time soon) is a valuable piece of IP. And there are a whole bunch of MVL characters which we've forgotten about. For example, Sony was looking at Kill Raven, which most people have pretty much forgotten about, so there are creative resources that have not been tapped.<br> <br> So we could see an increase in development of some of these minor characters. And yes, we probably will see MVL characters at Disneyland etc.<br> <br> For us fans, though, I think <b>the important question is how has the integration of Pixar into Disney affected Pixar? Does anyone have any info on that?<b><br> <br> My feeling is that in the long run we will see a more homogenized MVL from top to bottom. Comics, films, animation. They will be looking to squeeze more cash out of existing characters and stories, and not so much in developing new stuff. That's just the way big corporations work. The larger the organization, the more difficult it is to be creative.<br> <br> Bizarro, I don't think we have to worry about Disney cute-ifying any more than it already is. BTW, these products aimed at kids are to try to get kids into it, a lot like Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends in the early 80s, because instead of reading comic books, a lot of kids have moved over to video games. It's about getting them hooked young--like bubble gum cigarettes.
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Come on. More likely you'll get awkward cross-overs with Hannah Montana and The Suite Life. And you might see the end of mid-level Marvel character animation . . . no more Cartoon Network movies.
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For MVL, BOTH Hulk films were profitable, when you count the DVD sales and licensing.
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Don't think this is good news for the comic industry.
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Irrespective of what the first two made, if John Lasseter saw a script and he liked it.
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they'll just fuck it up like they seem to do everything else. They'll sanatize the hell out of it
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST
Question: Why would you want PIXAR to do Marvel projects?
by YackBacker
Seriously, why? PIXAR has their own creative world, why muddy it with MARVEL? I like PIXAR jsut the way it is, thank you.
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How do you put a price on 4,900 characters nobody's ever heard of?
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God that'd be a kickass animated film. <p> As for hand-drawn animation, I'd prefer the Disney style as opposed to what Marvel's been doing lately.
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Disney wants MILLIONS more people to see them. And not enough people have come out to see either one. That's just a fact.
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Kevin, not so sure there will be any cross-overs. It depends on what Disney wants to do. If they're smart, they'll leave MVL on its own and just collect the cash, which will come in every year. Of course, an idiot exec can always come in and insist on a giant spider or flames on Iron Man.
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Hilarity ensues!
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Not sure WHAT to think. I would LOVE to see some Kirby influenced Pixar movies, based on Marvel properties. Wow, so much could go so RIGHT...and so much could go SO WRONG. <P>Part of me wants to joyously shout...while another part of me is concerned for Marvel's future in film. --All in all, I think I'm feeling about 60% in favor.
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Scroll down towards the second half-- http://tinyurl.com/nphk42
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"That Iron Man is en fuego." "Boo Yah!" Natch...
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Now THIS. WTFWTF?
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This sucks. Marvel sold out after finally becoming their own entity and being able to do thing their way. No artistic integrity, just greed.
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Remember, everyone used to think they couldn't make money on Iron Man. So what Disney did was look at the tidy profit MVL made on Iron Man and said, "what if we make half that on Kill Raven, Ka-Zar, Wonder Man, and the Black Widow spinoff? They then added that up and said, $50/share.
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Would see a Disney Hulk as a different animal. They would expect they could get milliions more people to see it, and make money of the property long into the future. And I expect they'd be right. And if Lasseter saw a script he thought would make the great, I expect they'd make that movie. Hulk is a heckuva a character to own. It's unfortunate the two Hulk movies thus far haven't done very well, but I still think there is money there, in the right hands, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a profitable use of the Hulk property coming out of Disney.<br><br>At the same time, I agree with you completely: Pixar won't muddy their original content with Marvel, and it would serve no purpose to try.
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Does this mean we can get a kick ass movie with Transformers against Marvel characters? Since Dreamworks is now a part of Disney too.
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These are the same people who ten years ago wanted to put a fucking theme park on Civil War battlefields in Virginia that would have pretty much be distilled into "oh, yeah, and that slavery thing too, but hey kids, take a ride on the Antietam Express with your faaaavoorite characters Billy Yank and heeeres Johnnny Reb!". 600 thousand Americans died in that war, shitheads.
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The folks responsible for the TV shows will work very hard to at least get some very special episodes. There will be cross-over of some kind--because there's almost nothing that Disney owns that doesn't get crossed-over, over time. At least once.
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Ant Man movie.
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That doesn't count the licensing, which is a large part of the companies revenue. Check their SEC filings and you will see.
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Iron Man 4. Or meet Robert Downey, JR. Personally. Or wanting to get a starring role in the new Avengers film. It'll happen. Oh, yes, it'll happen.
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Bring it!!!!!
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Seriously, I'm surprised that Disney never had a superhero franchise throughout the years. (Maybe they tried to launch one ala Archie's Red Circle?) In any case, superficially this move would seem to be shoring up Marvel's stability.
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The key to any HULK movie making money is to get its budget in line. And while I was entertained by the last movie, it was uneven. I saw it once and had no desire to revisit it on DVD or through any other means since then. So, they lost my potential repeat business and I'm a fanboy.
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Certainly the Marvel stable will be far greater income generators than those old socks, and Marvel adds a group of characters that don't seem redundant (Kermit is really just a second-rate Mickey Mouse, after all; only Miss Piggy had anything to offer Disney, being she's a glamorous sexpot, unlike any of the Disney females); but STILL!!!! Disney buying up properties is one of the reasons I hated the Eisner era. What would Walt think? Hell, what does Lasseter think? Curiouser and curiouser...
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First, Disney owns a ton of companies...ESPN for example.<br><br>In the case of Marvel Superhero Island, it's a licensing agreement - I'm sure Disney wouldn't mind making more money off of that without having to put any investment in - it's already built and advertised. They would just make money off of the license. Just like how Disney pay George Lucas for the use of Star Wars in their theme parks.<br><br>Second, three words...PIXAR RENDERING ENGINE. Wow - PIXAR did work on Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow - why would PIXAR even make a Marvel Character film, even though "The Incredibles" is the most interesting and fully created story they have ever done. The rest of the PIXAR catalogue runs out of gas. Sure, UP's opening montonge was beautiful, but the film's pacing sucked. WALL-E, beautiful concept, beautiful imagery - pacing horrible. I often feel that PIXAR films do have their funny spirit and I laugh and feel with them.<br><br>That being said, I hope you all realize that most companies buy others, especially Disney, because of what they do best. I'm sure Marvel Studios will keep on making cool flicks.<br><Br>Why would you fix the cash machine if it isn't broken?
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What happens to the Spiderman ride at Islands of Adventure? The Hulk coaster?
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You go check their SEC filings! Nah, I really couldn't care less, but the point being that you generally want to make money at the box office, right? HULK hasn't managed that yet. SEC filings... you're a funny dude.
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i always liked marvel comics. now disney owns them? what else could be said but how sad. fuck disney.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST
WILL I GET TO SIT IN WONDER WOMAN'S LAP AT DISNEY WORLD?!?!?!?
by BringingSexyBack
I hope she molests me!!!!!
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great sickly sweet superheroes movies.just when they started to get it right
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But seriously: I am curious/aprehensive about how and whether Disney's squeaky-clean image will allow Marvel to get away with some of the "realistic" or "grim" comics they've been putting out for the past decade-and-a-half. "Punisher War Journal, brought to you by Disney" ... it just doesn't scan very well, you know?
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in 3D!!!!!!!!
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this is truely a sad day indeed....
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Over time I think you're right. <br> <br> Believe me, I am not so happy about this merger. Creatively, and for MVL as a business. I think long-term, creative companies are best when they are small and agile. <br> Of course, all of the management who got options at $10 or so are thrilled at the merger, as are the board of directors, and probably most of the stock holders.<br> <br> One thought does occur to me: what happens if Disney is able to buy back the rights to the X-Men? And to the Fantastic Four? I think they would be in better hands at Darvel than at Fox.
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Not all corporate mergers are smart. And your critical take on PIXAR's movies, while measured, misses the point. PIXAR is its own creative laboratory. They don't do straight adaptations of existing source material. And as for the rendering engine, that's meaningless. What matters is the artistry, not the technology. I would hope PIXAR's artists are not dragged into some gimmicky project that Disney brass demands from their group.
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Will Disney own torture porn next?
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From Marvel Editor-In-Chief Joe Quesada
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1. WONDER WOMAN - Is DC...<br> 2. Punisher War Journal - Will still be by MARVEL<br> 3. Ain't It Cool's Uneducated knuckledragging forum idiots - CHECK
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Say you're sorry to BSB, he is a sensitive, gentle one.
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He'll have a dance off with Hannah Montana!!!!! ZOMB
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Waaugh...R.I.P. Howie...heres hoping the Mouseketeers dont find Gerbers grave and piss on it....
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Or I'll blast you with my eye rays motherfucker.
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This is gonna suck something fierce.
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post them naked pics.
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So Disney owns Marvel. Disney already owns Pixar, allowing Pixar to create films on their own, distributed by Disney, then Disney uses Pixar stuff for charaters, parades, merchandise and rides in the theme parks. Very little Mickey Mouse meets Woody interaction. I suspect Marvel will become finacially independent enough to slow down on making films -- much as Pixar (no film in development until a decent story can be found, then a script developed over a long time). Expect to see Spiderman, Iron Man, Captain America & other Marvel characters signing autographs in the parks soon. Eventually some Marvel themed rides. Probably less of the Lucas/Muppet style crossovers (Mickey as Indiana Jones and Luke Skywalker, Muppets wearing Mouse ears).
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Fucking Marvel, Neil Gailman, and Pixar together. And a giant fucking medieval battle at Doom's fortress between the Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Doom's Vulture minions, and Thor. Awesome.
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Agreed on the Daimler analogy, but why would you be worried about PIXAR, when the two point that I was trying to make was look at The Incredible - a super hero movie - was made by PIXAR and it was one of it's best and well thought out films.<bR><Br>Second, with the entire Disney (A cartoon based company) Catalogue, PIXAR has yet to make one of their character based films.<br><Br>The point of technology, the use of the engine, would be an important part of making cool Marvel based films.<br><br>Now when it comes to brand ownership by Disney, they own a ton of stuff. They own ISP's, ESPN (When have you seen any Disney influence there?), they own ABC (Which shows are LOST and HEROES)...where is the "negative" Disney influence in those productions?
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST
So Quesada (the biggest tool on Earth) is saying PIXAR is involv
by YackBacker
Well, I guess we'll have to see how this shakes out. If PIXAR abandons its own "independent" projects to make room for a Marvel slate, that will suck. If PIXAR can continue with their projects without losing a step, then it's a non-issue.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST
THE HULK WILL BE POLE DANCING ON AN ICE CREAM CART!!!!!!
by BringingSexyBack
Damn you Michael Eisner!!!!!!!!!
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So far they've done family fare with some adult undercurrents. They have done NOTHING to my knowledge that goes in the direction of Ultimate Marvel, Marvel Knights, etc.-you-name-it. I find this line of argument specious for this very reason.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST
WHAT IS IT WITH TEEN STARLETS AND THEIR NEED FOR EXHIBITIONISM?
by BringingSexyBack
God bless them, I ain't complainin.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST
Sneering - no crossmarketing between ESPN and Disney?
by JackRabbitSlim
Your brain must be hypoxic if you think the cancerous tentacles of synnergy don't run throughout the Mouse House empire. The suffocating crossmarketing makes me want to retch with ESPN'S SPECTACULAR WEEK AT DISNEYWORLD and other subtle-as-a-cinder-block-to-the-face tactics. To think that Marvel wont be inexorably siphoned in and leeched off is naivete at its worst.
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and way way better than either pieces of shit we got in live action format.
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Cool! James Earl Jones can voice Odin! Loki will perform the decadent dance of mischievous magic! Mjolnir will hum show tunes! Asgard will be totally fabulous!
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PIXAR hasn't gone there (yet). But the Quesada quote and the stuff about Lasseter makes me believe PIXAR will get into Marvel projects. <p> As for the Disney brans crossing over, they do it in subtle ways all of the time. They do it the same way TimeWarner does it with CNN, Entertainment Weekly, and WB projects. FOX does it through their media channels too. This is nothing new or "negative" per se, it's just an incestuous and borderline vertical and horizontal corporate activity.
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It's perfect as is!!!!
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Doubtful.
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So marketing = content restriction?<br><br>Please explain...lack of oxygen to brain...trouble making the connection. I also am naive to the world of business. Laymen terms apply.
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So please - don't say ESPN isn't obviously owned by, and used as a marketing avenue by, Disney.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST
Thanks Quint and Merrick BUT: Pixar Has No Track Record Here!
by V. von Doom
Pixar has also produced all their own storylines so far. Never adapted something belonging to anyone else. It's obvious the Pixar folks are as geeky as all of us in this talkback but there's never been a sign of them wanting to ADAPT vs. CREATE. I want to wait and see what THEY say; until then this is not much more than Joe Q giving his opinion (not facts) on a deal that works out fine for him no matter what happens to Marvel in the end. DOOM has spoken!
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Can i make it simpler?
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does that mean we'll get a hanna montana crossover with spidey? oh joy
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hopefully this means that Disnet will go and build some cool theme park rides based on Marvel characters.
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They move slow, and that've got their slate through 2013 announced, and their slate through 2015 may be close to set . . . You might not see the first Pixar/Marvel movie for a decade, when you could see a Disney Animation take on some marvel characters within 2 years. Just sayin'.
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Please! This cannot be true! Look at how Disney ruined ABC and ESPN! Marvel had a great thing going...way to ruin it.
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When the Obama robot finishes explaining how great socialism is Stan can pipe in with a "Nuff said"
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I had already stated that ESPN was owned by Disney twice in previous posts.<br><Br>Disney, as also previously stated, owns ABC.<br><Br>ABC shows productions that have high sexual content, murder, violence, and ethical and moral conflicts of adult nature. Shows for instance - HEROES, LOST, DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES, etc.<br><br>Now, if you know the history, Disney (since the 1940's) was helped by ABC and financed by them for a bit of time. Later on when ABC was struggling, Disney purchased them and kept them afloat. They did the same with Jim Hensen. The helped him and he actually died when working on projects with Disney. His wife still has some elements of control of the Disney projects.<br><BR>I'm just saying, JackRabbitSlim, if you're trying to undermine my statements, please use logic and counterpoints to what I am saying - don't just throw random statements out there in hopes of crumbling logic.
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That would be awesome. The Walt Disney of comic books. That's Stan. I'm not sure ABC or ESPN suck any more than they did before Disney bought them.
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When the rights come back
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They just need to buy more computers and animators.
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But I'm betting they won't. They've been very cautious about the brand, and they're just branching out into live action . . . I'm just very dubious.
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I don't care about content restriction myself, I doubt it's an issue. My concern is that Disney will make financial choices that Marvel will have to abide by, losing their freedom to choose their own projects.
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:@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@
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They will make a Marvel theme park, make Marvel shows on ABC, influence the comics and movies, and whatever Marvel was...is now dead. Cherish those copies of Iron Man, Punisher and Hulk; it gets worse from here on out!
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Anyone have any good info on that? Yes Lasseter is in charge? Doesn't seem to be the end of the story, though.
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That's life in the corporate jungle man.
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I posted before your response to JackRabbit
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I agree. I think there are always strings attached when enough money gets involved. Spider-Man 3 and X3 are cases in point, and the main danger I see for Marvel.<br> <br> I know Eisner was horrible. Anyone know anything about Iger?
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I know "Hollywood" reads these forums (which is why we should try to behave a little better here..we keep re-enforcing our own stereotype) Anyway--You know what would be cool-- A young X-Men tv series similar to Smallville I would think a 4 hour mini-series based on Brin Bendis' excellant Daredevil story arc would be great\ (among similar stories) The possibilities are endless
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Marvel is just wrapping up its Dark Reign storyline right now, where the bad guys take over. Now the bad guys are taking over Marvel. Micky Mouse is far more evil than Normal Osborne!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST
What will happen to the Universal Studios Marvel Theme Area
by Rene_Belloq_12inch_Figure
in Islands of Adventure.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST
Dont count Pixar out for adaptations just bc they've been origin
by D.Vader
The Coen Bros made original films for years before doing their first adaptation with "No Country For Old Men". And Pixar's first Live Action film IS an adaptation. So its entirely possible Pixar may do a Marvel flick sometime down the line. <p> But like kevinwillis said, it'll probably be 2015.
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More greed. More money. More garbage. But if there is an exciting opportunity for Pixar and Marvel to collaborate on something awesome, at least there is a silver lining. That sounds like a project worth getting excited about. Still, just seems like a sad thing. Marvel no longer autonomous, Disney owning another gigantic company. Disney is pure evil.
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According to the story, so it's a sure bet we'll see Spidey in truly magnificent CGI...if anyone cares about that. For the record, I don't. So what are we gonna get? Spiderman flying across the Disney logo instead of Tinker Bell?
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST
Although Pixar movies got better post-Disney buying them.
by Rene_Belloq_12inch_Figure
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST
Although Pixar movies got better post-Disney buying them.
by Rene_Belloq_12inch_Figure
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST
Although Pixar movies got better post-Disney buying them.
by Rene_Belloq_12inch_Figure
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST
trombone, it depends on how FOX and SONY have their rights
by YackBacker
If the studios have options on the properties then they will keep executing them to retain their rights. I have not read anywhere about Marvel (and now Disney, I guess) having a cancellation clause. Same goes for HULK and Universal. So, as long as these studios retain their options, by periodically producing new films with these characters, Disney doesn't get to control budgets or distribution.
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Ironically, the original FF movie ending had to be re-done because it resembled the Incredibles ending. The Incredibles= blockbuster classic. FF= half-assed shit movie.
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Chrysler used to be a great American comeback story, like Harley-Davidson. It paid back its gov't loan early, made great cars people wanted to buy, and were sitting on a big fat surplus. Then some greedy beancounter at Chrysler sold the company in order to line his own pocket, and Daimler wrung the company dry. However, I don't think Disney will do that to Marvel. I think it's going to try to assimilate Marvel into its ranks without raiding it (Disney doesn't have to, it's got oceans of cash). Still, this is an odd coupling...still it makes more sense than the Muppets.
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Sorry man, I was responding to JackRabbitSlim.<br><br>I agree with you to a point. I did state earlier that "If the cash machine isn't broken, why fix it".<br><Br>I was using ABC, PIXAR, and ESPN as examples of PRODUCTIONS that haven't been affected by the Disney influence in major ways.<br><Br>PIXAR still makes their own material. ESPN makes their own material. ABC still shows productions that are not the "DISNEY" choice.<Br><BR>My point is, MARVEL will still be MARVEL. I cited examples are enough to not flip out like most people on here are. These talk backs are the Mob of Rome.<br><Br>I worked for the Disney company for a number of years and left because of their corporate stooge methods. I've seen and been there for the Jim Hensen buyout. I've met George Lucas and Eiser (what a prick). I've seen the licensing agreements.<br><Br>My point is, I'm trying to calm the flames against this. Truth be told, time is all we have to see what happens.
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I am cool with this. So let it be known, that on this day, the 31st of August. Spacezilla is cool with Disney owning Marvel. I love Disney, Disneyland, and I love Superheroes. This is good news. It will be great seeing Marvel Superheroes in Disneyland instead of Universal (I go to Disneyland many times a year Even when I didn't have kids)). This is cool news. <p> p.s. Wolverine Origins was the worst movie this year bar none. Fuck you to everyone involved in that piece of shit. I love Wolverine, and that vomit was not at all, respecting the character. F U...and fuck you.
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MVL got Iron Man back. Pretty sure they got back the rights to produce Hulk as well, and let Universal distribute. So if Disney offers enough $$$, could buy back any rights.
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I stand corrected on the HEROES NBC mixup.
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I see no downside to this.
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Idiot.
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Is this why Marvel movies have improved?
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Let me ask you, as someone who worked there, do you think Disney has lost their own creative touch and have now moved onto buying properties like Jim Henson, PIXAR and MARVEL to compensate?
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Is that true?
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ABC Family anyone!?
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Can't Wait...He starts with "It's A Small World", then takes Mary Poppins umbrella and.....
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May be the only way a Hulk franchise can be successful.
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I was just saying last week that Marvel would probably be a good investment. Now let's get an ABC X-Men show!
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First, apologies to BSB - touche.<br><BR>The current mentality is this -<br><Br>Being creative is not of value - doing things on the cheap is.<bR><Br>Disney has never really had creative value in terms of their own material...everything is borrowed. Snow White, Peter Pan, etc...think about it. Disney made money off of developing ways to tell those stories better. Better filmmaking techniques, the development of the parks, etc.<br><br>With the purchase of MARVEL and the acceptance of MARVEL, I would have to say they are trying to help boost their image towards people they don't have as a revenue vein.
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stat!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST
I bet youthey want to do a more adult theme park with Marvel.
by Rene_Belloq_12inch_Figure
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I'll eye fuck you if you dispute my Heroes/NBC claims.
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But in this case I was pointing out your correction to DocHump!!! Heroes = NBC = I agree
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That is if they still had the Electric Light Parade.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST
Maybe they can put The Avengers and X-Men on Disney Channel
by Darth Busey
now instead of Special Agent fucking OSO. I hate watching that bullshit.
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I still want to eye fuck you though.
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Someone has already mentioned this, I know, but how could this not be covered in the press release? The theme parks must make most of Disney's money.
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Just do it.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST
MARVEL GETS GOBBLED UP LIKE PACMAN BY ATTILA THE HUN
by BringingSexyBack
It is what it is.
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Marvel operating as an independent entity yet still has the Disney money/marketing machine behind it.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST
more dough for Quesada... hope he can keep the edge on Marvel ch
by Se7en
He's having a good run that Quesada guy. That is one sweet deal.
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curious mind wants to know.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST
JOE QUESADA IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW MEXICANS CAN SUCCEED
by BringingSexyBack
without human or drug trafficking. Good job.
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Thank you for a being as cast member of the Walt Disney family Mr. Ellis! We have some slight alterations to your latest script...
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Pixar and Marvel. Fantastic 4 could really learn from The Incredibles.
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Ya dig it?
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Mickey as Cyclops Minnie as Jean Grey Donald as Wolverine Goofy as Angel Pluto as Beast
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EXCEL$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$IOR!!!!!!
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Just one more thing to give thanks for in November.
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becomes Disney? Or is it still separately traded?<p>I echo the fears on Marvel being censored or disneyfied. Though Pixar might be able to do a decent "Power Pack." Or any of the 80's kids stuff, like Peter Porker.
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I hope to whatever god-like creature exists that this won`t fuck things up fantastic four style!!
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with thunderous applause" Amidala Ep3 Probably the last smart and timely thing George Lucas ever wrote.
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Let's see how long Disney is interested in publishing these stories where Marvel superheros are regularly raped and dismembered and the "good guys" are too busy killing each other to embody any of the virtues they're supposed to represent.
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YE$$$$$$$$$$ !!!
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Bugs Bunny?
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"Homeward Bound" with LockJaw!
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I could give a shit (the FOX owned ones are already a lost cause). Although, PIXAR + MARVEL = very very interesting.
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of my Hannah Montana lunch pail.
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Let's end the "severed head" era of superheroes and bring in someone who really understands what's fun about this material.
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I hadn't thought about that. I wonder if Disney will drop it's threat against Howard looking sort of like Donald, now?
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To make a Superman movie,shame this is a marvel deal and not DC
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'nuff said!
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You get $30/share for your Marvel stock and 0.745 Disney shares for each Marvel share you own.
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You lucky bastard.
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a Kraven / Lion king crossover
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Aug. 31, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST
This is what Marvel could look like with A+ Animation.
by ganymede3010
Japans elite animation studio is releasing an Iron Man series next year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFU-NobclCw&feature=PlayList&p=47A9F87210551B6F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=30
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I have a feeling this is gonna send Marvel's readership plummeting if they're not able to do what they're doing now and Disney assumes the role of the Comics Code Authority on all Marvel books. This is a sad day indeed for Marvel. Jack Kirby is rolling in his grave right now...
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http://tinyurl.com/m8q4zd
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WE REQUIRE FUNNY SQUIRREL GIRL COMICS. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY.
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Jack Kirby would fucking hate basically everything Marvel is publishing right now. And holy shit, what if they kill Mark Millar's super violent incest fantasy books? They might have to make superhero comics that will actually be read by children????
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And for the DIsney Characters in X-Men cosplay merchandise, Stitch as Deadpool. (Anyone see the Slave Leia Minnie, btw? If they sell that in their parks, I think Marvel can continue as usual in the comics; same as corporate-owned DC does.
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Well, enjoy the ride while you can guys, cause when Disney takes over the movies, well. . . you know. SHIT!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST
Does this mean a Pixar movie in the Marvel universe is possible?
by Ironhelix
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That will save the series.
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The Red Skull steals Walt Disney's frozen head.
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but i do want to see a howard the duck vs. donald movie.
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I can't wait for Marvel Vs. Capcom Vs. Disney. Amazing stuff. And those of you who think that things will be watered down don't have a 2 year old little girl. Eat shit 16 year olds. I've been on this site since before TPM came out. You all need to learn some perspecitve.
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just some kickass Bruckheimer comics films...
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That Disney gives ANY control of the Marvel properties to Joe Fucking Quesada. Say goodbye, Joe.
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MORE DAMAGE CONTROL BY DWAYNE MCDUFFIE. COMPLY WITH MY DEMANDS.
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I mean, that's not totally lame...the Incredibles go after some bad guy and cross tracks with Spidey, Thor, and the Fantastic Four. After all, the Incredibles live in a superhero-infested universe...why wouldn't they have contact with other legends? It'd be great celebrity casting, in a weird sort of way...hmm...
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doesn't six flags have a spiderman ride? what'll happen to that?
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... Watchmen Babies!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST
Disturbing number of Hannah Montana / Suite Life Details
by The Gipper
For such haters, many of you have wayyyy too much information about Hannah Montana and The Suite Life. I've got a kid who watches Disney Channel and I don't know that much about either of those shows.<p> <p> As far as the Universal Studios rides, I would assume that those will remain in place until the licensing agreement expires (don't ask me when that happens) and at that point Disney will yank the characters into their parks. Universal will simply repurpose those existing rides with new names / themes devoid of Marvel characters.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST
Another level of corporate mismanagement isn't going to make mov
by Norm
That's all this is. One more level of worthless out of touch VPs shitting all over your films because they need a PG-13, or the toys don't cross-market well, throw in an anoying 12 yr-old off the Disney Channel... The other thing, Disney will be expecting to make their $4 Billion back, which means $4 Billion of profit from the next Marvel films that WON'T be reinvested back into the Marvel franchise, but will instead be sucked out for another round of VP coke and hookers. Disney will kill Marvel in the end.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST
GREAT, ONE CORPORATION BUYING ANOTHER, HOW WONDERFUL.....
by CarlThorMark1978
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DC always beat the crap out of Marvel Cartoons, with the two huge exceptions of 90's SpiderMan and XMen. BUT NOW...
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The Incredibles. Strong guy, stretchy person, invisible girl with forcefield power, fire dude (baby in the end). Gee, not sure where I've seen it before.
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Glad I'm not the only one (Se7en). Marvel rolled over when Disney threatened a lawsuit over Howard the Duck. Forcing Howard to wear pants. No kidding. Take your pants off and run around Howard! You're free baby free!
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Think about it. Howard the Duck/Darkwing Duck. Lawyer!She-Hulk/The Incredibles. The Fantastic Four/The Incredibles. You know you want it.
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It earned over 200 million world wide not including dvd sales. You talk backers are full of shit sometime.. no most time. That's a bit above Ang Lee's boring movie. Yet it's still a hit. And I too don't want to see Marvel Disneyized. Fucking Marvel Princess I shudder at the thought. But I wouldn't mind seeing Gizmo Duck Vs Iron Man. I'm duplicitous at times.
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What was it when Joe Q banned smoking in all the Marvel titles? Did anyone read an article where he said that comics should cost more???? If they get rid of Joe Q, or just demote him to artist, I think this will be a positive move.
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...it might not be such a bad thing. One of the big reasons, I think, that X3 was so hastily wrapped up was the aging of the stars. You get to a point where the guy playing your superhero is no longer the spring chicken they once were. With Professor X and Magneto, you could get away with it, but with the more physical actors and the younger roles, there's a considerable problem there. But if you do it CGI? Age is not as great a factor. You can do more relaxed chronologies, have people come back for long periods to do the characters. After all, Mark Hamill's been doing the Joker since the early to mid-nineties, and he's not exactly a youngster either.
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You want kids should smoke?!?!?
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Will Krustylu Studios keep the rights to Itchy And Scratchy? And will Roger Meyers Jr keep his job?
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We'll never relly know if the Holocaust happened, but we do know you can get great tasting pasta in less than five minutes.
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This could potentially become a Great thing for Marvel, especially if the potential for Fox to keep their hands off of the comic properties is settled.
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...What may happen is the kind of dual studio financing that happened in the early nineties. Disney and Universal do the Hulk, They partner with Columbia Pictures to do the Spiderman pics, so on and so forth. The main, unfortunate thing we might see would be Superheroes on ice.
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so much for Marvel having control of their properties.
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Bugs Bunny (Warner Bros.) already owns DC Comics. I'm assuming you were just joking that you didn't know.
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"Disney has never really had creative value in terms of their own material...everything is borrowed. Snow White, Peter Pan, etc...think about it. Disney made money off of developing ways to tell those stories better. Better filmmaking techniques, the development of the parks, etc.<p> <p> "With the purchase of MARVEL and the acceptance of MARVEL, I would have to say they are trying to help boost their image towards people they don't have as a revenue vein."<p> <p> That's EXACTLY what this is about. This is business and all comes down to revenue. This is a sector that they didn't have access to and now they do. Smart business on Disney's part.
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I didn't know people actually read my worthless posts!
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and a Nachos Bellgrande por favor!!!!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST
At least Rothman won't be fucking with X-Men anymore
by Rickey Henderson
There is that much to look forward to. Other than a soulless theme park, a so-so TV network, and some occasionally solid movies, can anyone actually tell Rickey what the Disney name ACTUALLY MEANS? And why them taking over Marvel is a good thing?
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...as long as John Lasseter is in control. There's nobody else more fitting.
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...won't be able to do all kinds of gay business with X-Men anymore.
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well looks like kingdom hearts 3 or 4 may be more interesting..now..and as to disney kiddying up marvel...well look at mirimax disney sure didnt kiddy up resevor dogs and other such movies This is a good deal for marvel they may be able to keep comics going that are good but not best sellers...comics that wouldve been cancelled might not be hell they might be able to take more risks as well!
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If he pops up in "The Avengers" then that's all fine and dandy Rickey supposes. But seriously, nobody wants to see yet another HULK movie. He's a boring character, damnit! Just a modern retelling of the hackneyed Jekyll & Hyde story with some fear of technology thrown in for good measure. Oh the angst!
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like they said all current deals are still good which includes video game licensing. Activisioon currently has the rights to most of the marvel characters.
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Maybe even win a James Beard award.
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Graphics look good but if gameplay is shitty I aint dropping $19 on it.
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now that you own the company, order up the third season of The Spectacular Spider-Man already.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST
Hopefully cheaper sound stage access, & cheap pixar cgi
by Mysterious_Volvo
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go back and watch the old tv program with bill bixby. by the way, are still playing baseball?
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would have fed a Luger to Walt and laid waste to Disneyworld. I know AICN doesn't want to piss of a machine as big as Disney, but I honestly don't see how anyone could possibly think this is a good thing.
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Avengers vs. Hulk gone berserk, Pixar style!
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to tone it done for the kids?
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DCA cost 650 million, just so you know. The whole resort cost 1.4 billion when you add in the hotel, park and Downtown Disney area. The cost of the makeover has been published at 1.1 billion dollars, but it's actually a little under a billion. If you want to see a 2 billion dollar theme park check out Tokyo DisneySEA which cost 2.2 billion and is the world most expensive and beautiful. I think Iger will give Marvel the freedom it's given Lasseter. Iger is pretty hands off if you know what you're doing and Marvel seems to know what they're doing.
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I don't know...don't like the sound of this. Will have to wait and see. If Marvel retains creative control across the board (films, comics etc.) then good. And If this will mean cheaper comic books a good perk too, even $3 is too much for a comic these days. Hmmm....
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Wolverine can smoke all he wants his lungs just heal.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST
Micky to the assembled 5000 marvel Characters...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
"I own you little bitches now..Ha, ha...Anyone got a problem with that? ..Ha, ha..<p>Kicks Thor in the Nuts.."Anyone got a problem?...Ha, ha...Didn't think so"
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"and make me some goddamn money..."
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Aug. 31, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST
lol so now wolverine is a disney charecter
by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN
oh man fuck you stan lee
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Aug. 31, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST
Until Spider-man marries Miley Cyrus, make mine Marvel!
by Josstossesthesalad
Maybe I am an optimist, but this can benefit Marvel the way DC benefits from Warner Brothers. Hopefully, this merger will mean more books shipping on time and less pompous ass writers and artists. I'm talking to you Joss Whedon. I really have an unhealthy hatred for that man. I think that books shipping on time and better media exposure will help Marvel. Excelsior True Believers!!! Oh and what about the 70th anniversary of Marvel Comics? I seem to remember my Marvel comics in the mid 80s having a 25th anniversary. Hmmm strange.
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Disney quality direct to video animated marvel films. Ok. I'm actually quite excited about that. As long as they don't go G. And the possibility of a Pixar/Marvel team up. Mother fuck. I am pinching myself that it's even possible.
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Could've paid off the student loan with this deal! Oh, and fuck Disney and his goddmaned mouse!
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She has a things for Hugh Jackman and I am willing to bet there will be a Wolverine roller coaster. I can finally tell her to ride Wolverine and be completely comfortable with it.
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Arguably some of the condemnations on this TB regarding Disney stem from their stifling creative ideas. That's why it is imperative that Marvel maintain creative autonomy here. People like to blame Disney for things Walt was involved in over 50 years ago, but in my mind their greatest crime remains their stagnant attempts at keeping the brand "inoffensive". That alone makes me uncomfortable with any creative direction they might seize. On the otherhand, letting Pixar into the mix truly is an opportunity to do extraordinary things for MVL properties on both the large and small screen. That said, let's hope Disney lets the talent and not the suits run the show.
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HOLY SHIT HOLY FUCKING SHIT I BUMPED MY HEAD AND I'M HALLUCINATING
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To get back every single Marvel property that's been sold. Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, you're all coming home..er...well a newer, more corporate home, but hey, fuck it. If Pixar can do it, so can you!
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Rickey never latched on to the original TV series or the character as a whole. The big green angry dude didn't do it for Rickey. The HULK ride at Universal Studios is damned good fun however. Rickey plays softball now, it's good fun and requires little physical ability on Rickey's part.<br> <br> Please please please let this Disney takeover spell the end of all these annoying X-Men Origins projects. When will the studios get it through their heads that we aren't entertained by origin stories? Give the people what they want: an epic wide-scale Marvel Universe mashup! Get to the good stuff already that has only been hinted at. Rickey's talking about Spidey fighin' Thor! Wolvie taking on the Punisher! Captain America battling Fing Fang Foom!
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Buying up marvel is a genious idea, If disney can successfully launch movie franchises of each character they will make billions...i think thats what Warner's wanted to do when they purchased DC, but 30 years later and all we got were 4 out of 6 good batman movies, 2 out of 5 good superman movies, catwoman and steel<P>let's hope disney does things right with marvel <P>although besides characters that don't have deals already in place, it's going to be a while before we see disney gain control of characters like X-men, Fantastic four, and spiderman...although i'm sure as the contracts are nearing an end disney will step in with its wallet and buy back the franchises (although sony isn't going to give up spiderman without a fight.)<P> After a terrible year at the box office, Universal is probabaly eager to sell back the hulk rights, and Fox probabaly figures the only way to make money off the daredevil franchise is to sell those rights back (Marvel was said to be in the process of doing that anyways because they want to reboot daredevil into the marvel film world). <P>LEt's hope disney greenlights a Punisher follow up with ray stevenson in the role, allow lionsgate to keep the rights for distribution (politically its better for disney not to tackle the distribution of a punisher movie) but with disney's money pump up the budget and hire a great action director like Tony scott ormartin campbell...but the key point is to make a sequel to punisher war zone, no need to reboot again and P:WZ was actually a good movie, it just lacked solid direction
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I have been posting for years, stating that a movie studio should buy Marvel, and finally one of them has wised-up, and done just that. I would love to see a "Moon Knight" movie!!!
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Guess Wolverine and Gen Ross will have to give up their stogies. Disny does not allow people to smoke in their films, no matter what.
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A Moon Knight movie must get made ASAP.
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Now, Marvel is no different than DC. I warned you all that Quesada would ruin Marvel.
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Stupid fucking me!!! Should of bought.
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Oh God... Dark Knight will be the last good comic book movie now. NOOOOOOO!
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You know it to be true!
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Being that Disney loves to shove that gay shit down people's throats.
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Why should they waste millions/billions of dollars on research and development when it's cheaper to buy the small,creative, hungry company that's already doing it.
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The terrible crossover possibilities are endless!
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My money's on the mouse.
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Can't wait. With Robin Williams as Puck and John Travolta as Vindicator!
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That will help extend copyright for 3 billion years!
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Seriously, since the price point for comics was raised to 4 bucks, it's been hell for comic book shops. I hope this acquisition means they can reduce the price of comics.....yeah right. Goodbye comic book stores, I'm betting dollars to donuts that Disney stores will be the exclusive sellers of any new comic books and the comic book stores will get them a week later. I should be happy, but I can't help but feel a little sad today.
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Luke Cage as Uncle Remus. If that annoying kid asks him to tell a story, he'll knock that little racist punks head off.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST
Actually, Disney/ABC has kept airing the "good" Marvel Cartoons.
by ganymede3010
Like the X-Men series of the 90's and the old and new school Spiderman show's. Trust me, they're not going to fuck up their newest golden goose. This will be the dawn of a new era. If they'll spend 300 million on a Pirates Movie imagine what they'll spend on a good Marvel script?
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That way kids can buy them again instead of cellar dwelling 30 year old Mama's boys who like to read Thor in the bath.
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Superman is Bugs Bunny's bitch, and now Spider-Man is Mickey's. This will be good for us fans in that Disney won't cheap out on the Marvel superhero stuff and we'll get to see Pixar melt faces and sex eyeballs with their interpretation of Marvel's stuff, but bad in that all the future Marvel stuff will be castrated and kid friendly, ie- No smoking in the Marvel Universe, and Xavier's School for the Gifted Musical Pt. XVIII. Also, I imagine the actual comics become even more of an afterthought in this situation. The eerie Marvel/DC corporate symmetry has been restored.
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Fucking zombies have nothing to say and they know it.
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And the Mickey that we've come to love is a clone. Available in 25 variant hologram covers signed by Sten Lei. 'Nuff said!
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i just learned about the purchase of Marvel from Disney just now.What can i say the news are very bad,the future of marvel is ominous. <p>i am pretty sure the MAX comic line will be the first victim of this acquisition.Jesus H Christ.
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i just learned about the purchase of Marvel from Disney just now.What can i say the news are very bad,the future of marvel is ominous. <p>i am pretty sure the MAX comic line will be the first victim of this acquisition.Jesus H Christ.
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Everyone knows those racist fucks at Disney don't have black characters.
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BULLSHIT. And I like that actor, too. Punisher:WZ sucked balls.... Man on Fire was the best Punisher movie ever.
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Only way you'll get a truly good hulk film. Just like the only way you'd get a good Transfomers movie.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST
Prince Namor v.s. The Little Mermaid! Summer, 2012!!!
by Rickey Henderson
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Too bad Marvel forgot to tell Disney that 4,900 of them are mutants!
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and Travolta as the baddie dressed as his characer from Hairspray.
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and doesn't work on any established character. There are enough pussies in tights on screen already. Fuck comic movies.
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It'll be weird to have Sora, Donald, and Hulk in a party.
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With Patton Oswalt as Dazzler's french cuisine cooking rat friend.
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OK, let me rephrase that. Disney is good at making sure what is up on the screen LOOKS expensive. They can afford good production values, and so I imagine the cartoons and stuff will look better. Obviously I hope they pay you guys. Does Marvel have a better track record of actually paying their talent on-time these days?
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and mickey mouse and goofy arent they black?
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Upside - Miramax/Tarantino doing Avengers/Hulk/X-Men (it could happen). Downside - Marvel properties to be in Public Domain about the time Morlocks rule the earth
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No, it ain't cool at all....
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Aug. 31, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST
Great... Now there's gonna be subliminal penises in my funny boo
by RobertBaron
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Bunch of clueless faggots in suits. I really hope no one has any expectations out of this deal.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST
Great. Now there's gonna be subliminal penises in my funny books
by RobertBaron
stupid 1997 formatting
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what do u mean?
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Stop bringing up that movie. It's terrible. It's only cool for people who haven't seen James Bond.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST
Even the Theme Parks aren't creative anymore
by Rene_Belloq_12inch_Figure
Fucking California Adventure, and that other Matterhorn they built in the Animal Kingdom. Utter bullshit, and they don't even build their own rides anymore I hear they just but them that's why they've been getting so generic.
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Marvel will now have the marketing strength and moral compass of the Walt Disney Corporation! Disney will now have great characters like Spider-man and Captain America! Sounds like a win-win scenario to me, gang. I think the grim and gritty era of superheroes being murdered on the steps of courthouses is finally over. The silver age will rise once more!
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Disney doesn't take kindly to members of the tribe...
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and sold at Buy N Large. I am not a fan of Spidey or Hulk. Iron Man was OK, but nothing compares to Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman, Green Lantern, Flash need I go on?
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that sound nothing like Dickblood...
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That's what I'm afraid of. Spider-Man whoring out promise rings, the Hulk preaching abstinence. The Pro-Life Punisher.
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Coming soon!
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And also preaty much anything post 1910 thanks to the greed of congress and the Disney corp.
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has made a "Hitler learns that Disney acquires Marvel" yet..
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My brother got me into it....I like the fact that O'Hara was racially mixed like me, and he took ten issues to *decide* to be hero, before that he was just hauling ass and getting into shtuff by acci-ma-dent.
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... but i could give a shit less. If this was DC then we'd have a problem.
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I focus more on the movies anyway. I could give a shit about those direct to DVD cartoons.
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They had to remake Peter Parker into a webmaster and Nick Fury into one-eyed Shaft (pun not intended) to do it though
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There's a "Disny Universe" somehwere in marvel. Think of the crossovers: Deadpool & Dumbo, Pluto Meets Wolverine, Minnie Mouse: House of M(ouse).
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This is going to suck. :/
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It seemed like in the 90's all of Disney's big releases (Little Mermaid, Lion King, Aladdin) were always accused of having some subversive imagery subliminally placed into the animation. <p> The Little Mermaid video cover art was accused of having a giant penis in the Mermaid Castle. <p> Supposedly, In the Lion King iirc, one of the cloud formations said "SEX" <P> On the laserdisc of Roger Rabbit (this is real and you can google for the images), there was one frame of animation showing Jessica Rabbit's tits.
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...a HUGE monoploy and endless supply of quality superheroes, as well as related sci fi/action/fantasy stories.<p>The other studios and producers are going to have to work really, really hard for new material to compete with such a new behemoth.
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Can't get any dumber. Maybe Vince can have Mickey Mouse host Raw!
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Look out for Batman Big Macs.
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.. not enough details yet. But I can't help but worry that this even further decreases my chances of ever seeing an R-rated "Tomb of Dracula" or "Werewolf by Night" flick. Oh well. I'll try to be optimistic and hope that this means we'll see more of the older stuff appear on the shelves. Those omnibus editions are probably pretty expensive to print. Hope Randy Bowen gets to keep his deal with Marvel as well. Kinda scary.
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The contract expires at some point, and unless Disney chooses to license the characters to Universal (who knows, unlikely), this entire section of Islands of Advventure will have to get a makeover. If and when this does happen, I guarantee you they will go with a Transformers theme. Especially considering the Transformers attraction they are developing uses the same ride system as Spider Man at IoA, it would be easy to retrofit the attraction. Rename and repaint the Hulk coaster, change up signage, and you're good to go. Not what I would want to happen, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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News at 11!
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Shawn Michaels would finally change his theme song......"I think I've sinned! I know I'm guilty! I've got the looks that drive the priests wild! I've got the tights that shock the pulpit! I'm the reason the church pays all those fines! I'm just a Christian boy (Christian Boy) I'm not an Altar boy (Altar boy)
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Watch out for Batman VS Luke Skywalker.
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i have heard about this rumours,and i have seen that Jessica Rabbit notorious frame shot,but it showed her pussy and not her tits,it was supposedly during the scene where roger hides in her dress.i dont know if thats fake or real.anyway.
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"Why would you fix the cash machine if it isn't broken?" Because people are stupid that way. They always know better. For example, I can think of two very popular restaurants in this city. been around for decades. One required reservations if you were to have any hope of getting in. Both saw the owner retire, the places got bought out, and the new owners tamper with the recipes for success, which had worked for all those years, until they'd gone belly up just a few months later. Heck, one of Canada's biggest retail chain went bankrupt less than a year after the founder's great-great-grandkids took over and remade the chain into an 'edgier', more 'hip' one, going so far as to even change the name - a name which had been known for over a century. Never underestimate the power of stupidity.
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"I'm the masqot of an evil corporation!"
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They made the deal for the movies and merchandising, not the comics. Marvel Comics will cease to exist within ten years.
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"We still got The Dark Knight, and until you have a movie that good that has the added tragedy of it's star dying tragically you will never be us!"
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Anti-trust, stop this merger!
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though it's weird, given Disney's conservative streak and the fact that Marvel has always been liberal. Disney played nice with SLG and the Disney properties they handle, and Disney has Ahmet Zappa creating their Kingdom Comics line:<p>http://tinyurl.com/kingdomcomics<p>Though I'm willing to eat my words, as they could potentially bowdlerize the hell outta Marvel.
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Stan Lee: "I thought this was a legitimate deal, not a BACKROOM deal!" Mickey Mouse: "Shut up and take this rodent dick, beeyotch!"
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and a Coke.
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Ah well...it was fun while it lasted. Disney couldn't make a phone booth succeed let alone the Marvel enterprise. Fuck them. Fuck them in the ass.
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as is all news.
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He was best when he was drawing Ninjak and Azrael imo
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...as if a billion nerds have cried out "NO" all at the same time
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The licensing agreement isn't just if they keep on making movies. That is just part of it. If that was the case they would never get any of their properties back. The agreements still have end dates and the studio has the option to renew. But now that Disney owns Marvel, you can guarantee that these are the last years of Sony and Fox having the film rights to Disney/Marvel properties. So, whatever they want to make, they better get on it while they have it.
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from what i know,disney comics arent very famous in the american comic market.The opposite happens in Europe,where the disney comics are very popular,with Italy being the major artistic source of them. <p>Stories with Mickey Mouse as private detective,Donald Duck as Phantom Duck,Goofy as Super Goofy,Indiana Goofy as the disney equivalent of Indiana Jones and ofc the adventures of the duck family,are all them wonderful,funny,thrilling stories to read,regardless if u are a kid or an adult. <p>Two days ago i read a new comic story entitled Super Heroes,where the main disney characters were super heroes and super villains,with a lot of resemblance to our well known marvel/DC characters like superman,batman,dr octopus,catwoman etc.The story,apart from being very good,it was like reading a Marvel or DC super teamup story,and although it was for kids, it had nothing to envy from the more mature,serious marvel/dc comic stories. <p>What i am trying to say,is that ,although this acquisition looks bad,we should wait and see how disney is going to use its obtained marvel property.if Disney acts with wisdom and not greed,then both sides,marvel and disney,will benefit from this new state of things.
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We all loved Duck Tales as kids, but come on, no true Carl Barks Uncle Scrooge cartoon 20 years on. With all the remake crap, why no Carl Barks Scrooge CGI flick?
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Aug. 31, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST
PIXAR/ DISNEY DEVIL DINOSAUR and WILDBOY AT LAST
by the Green Gargantua
my dreams will come true
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Betty and Veronica appear stuck in limbo!!!
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Finally!!!!
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I agree with anyone who thinks this is any kind of a bad idea. Go DC/Vertigo!!! (At least until they cave to another giant, as well.)
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"You know where the gee golly gosh you are? You're in the house of mouse baby! Wake up! Time to speeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnndddd!!!!!!!
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"You know where the gee golly gosh you are? You're in the house of mouse baby! Wake up! Time to speeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnndddd!!!!!!!"
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on the Ironman game. Now, if you got a X360 or PS3, go get Batman : Arkham Asylum NOW.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST
WHY IS TOM DELAY FUCKING UP MY DANCING WITH THE STARS
by BringingSexyBack
Damn you Disney!!!!!!!!! u fucks
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And what will happen to Gemstone Publishing? Bye, bye, small press interested in keeping classic comics alive!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST
Will Kraven the Hunter have to remove his facial hair now?
by BenBraddock
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Game looks good though. I might have to take it back. Fuck the children!!!!!!
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They taste just like your latina housekeeper makes em!!!!
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Now selling it is one thing, but you gave your 360 away?? Did you not see the trailers for Batman?
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I HATE Disney!!! I can't stand Disney!!!! I hated Disney when I was a kid!!! I still hate Disney!!! Now we're gonna have them telling what Marvel can and can't do! I can see them go,"You can't have Tony Stark be an alcoholic because Disney is a family brand" "You can't have Frank Castle killing people" "You can't have Gwen Stacy die" and so on and so forth. This is ridiculious!!!!!!!
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But doesn't this mean that all of their characters will be able to appear in each others' films in a few years? So like, Spider-Man and the Fantastic 4 both inhabiting New York, X-Men VS Hulk, Daredevil and Ghostrider, or whatever? I'd think that would be good news for Marvel fans...but good luck getting a grown-up movie out of the "Mouse House"...
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http://happytoastsblog.blogspot.com/ And who wouldn't want a Pixar Fantastic 4 movie?!
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The nastiest, greenest looking shits you've ever seen. Yummy!!!
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Make it so!!
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The uplifting story of a jolly green giant with a heart of gold who encourages children to buy..err, eat their veggies.
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The heart-warming tale of a man, who in spite of his blindness, has the courage to leave his successful legal practice to find true happiness as a trapeze artist.
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sometime mid-september. Haven't checked out specs required though.
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But we got a Wii as a replacement. I had no idea how great this thing was. We've been playing Sports Resort every single day. Best game ever!!
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Only time will tell.
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Looks the way someone like Neal Adams would design it.
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They've got a hell of a mess to clean up after the past 8 years. I imagine they'll probably be doing a lot of hiring...
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Print is going to be dead within 10-15 years. Movie theaters will be gone in 15-20 years. An independent Marvel was one mega-flop away from going bankrupt again. Now the Marvel name and content will continue to blaze forward and prosper in whateve the new format will be.....I predict streaming through the internet on wall size monitors in the home.
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A tale of a Canadian orphan who deals the heartache of having no home....and metal claws penetrating his knuckles.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST
ESPN fucking sucks. It's all high school shit on there
by lockesbrokenleg
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Disney or Pixar should make a tvseries or a movie based on Don Rosa's masterpiece.Last time we watched scrooge in adventures,was 20 years ago...
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Other than a couple of decent features and specials, they preaty much have squandered that one.
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he'll be wearing a fucking purity ring!
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that The Punisher will be changed to "The Funisher."
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Now I have to pay more attention to what Disney is doing. All they did was buy a fan base. US! What blows is they will go back to developing characters that have already been explored. Just when i thought we were gonna get to some Iron Fist/Cage stuff or Black Panther now we have to wait. AGAIN. The Blade stuff is still my favorite because it is dark. My fear is Disney will hinder that. The Hulk vs. Wolverine/Thor cartoons were great cause limbs were lost. Disney should mean more content for fans. Hopefully that content doesnt suffer. Marvel/Pixar=mind blowing. Double edged sword my friends. Cheaper books would be awesome though.
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honestly, a fantasmic style fantastic 4 show with galactus and the silver surfer would be badass
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Fuck them and their giant character vacuum that sucks up all the great ideas others had and calls them their own! Bet on slimy DTV sequels, dancing faggot TV shows and endless corporate meddling. Fcuk!
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2012 for sure.
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I see your point, however.
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YOU OWE ME 6 BILLION, YOU CUNTS.
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to drive up their stock prices, and then they tend to fall again after the initial sale.
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http://tinyurl.com/6y6m73
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and in other news, he recently made peace with Corey Haim. I wish he had more time to talkback too.
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I'm not sure what to think about this. Could be good, could be bad.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST
I'D LIKE AICN TO HAVE "COREY'S THOUGHTS" - WHERE COREY GIVES
by ironic_name
his opinion on shit - "heard marvel and disney are hooking up, maybe this means we can see some even bigger movies. peace, CF" that'd be cool.
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CAPSLOCK HOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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Because he stays gold without having to be told to.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST
Iger is the Anti-Eisner..the fucker knows how to run things..
by conspiracy
He also is smart enough to stay outta the fucking kitchen and let the artists and entertainers do their jobs, unlike Eisner who loved to start fucking with the soup.</p><p>Nope..this is a Win Win...Disney clout and money, Marvel properties and guys like Lassiter free to do something good without the CEO second guessing them. Good fucking times ahead.
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http://tinyurl.com/lx665x
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I think there are a lot of good buddy movies in this. Dumbo and the Blob. Hercules and Hercules. "Lad, let me show ye how to vex yon wenches!" A Punisher / Little Mermaid movie could be nice. :)
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That's the last thing Marvel fanboys want! I'd be panicked because we all know that Lassiter is not the kind of guy to give anyone creative freedom or put any thought into story before going through with an idea.
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challengers of the unknown... <P> if they ever have a three way merge, they'll have to address this. challenge of the incredibly fantastic 12!
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Beat It Man: "Just beat it!! Heee he!" <P> Bad Guy: "Okay!!!!"
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If I wanted boring ass corporate comics, I'd read DC. I was already getting tired of Marvel's BIG EVENT mentality. This makes dropping the last remaining titles sitting in my pull box that I never read a no-brainer.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST
ALL THE CAPSLOCK MAKES THIS FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN VALLHALLA
by ironic_name
what with the yelling, the mead, and the occasional brawl.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST
BRING ME MORE WENCHES, INSOLANT DOG! BY THORSIF'S HAMMER!
by ironic_name
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He's still on Vacation! HOLY SHIT!!
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kendra jade, jaimie gertz vanessa marcil.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST
Bush took the most vacation of any president ever, you idiot!
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
At least when Obama went "AWOL" as you put it, he wasn't in the actual fucking military, unlike a certain recently replaced sub-mental cretin...
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You do realize DC is owned by Time Warner AKA the largest media conglomerate in the world.
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The Marvel Universe is about to be sanitized. Say goodbye to Brother Voodoo, Punisher, and Ghost Rider. Say goodbye to Nick Fury's gun. Say hello to a clawless Wolverine. Nothing good can come of this.
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I don’t think Disney understands comic books or comic book culture - particularly the pulpy, funky lineage of Marvel. I would have been fine with Disney buying DC - it has always been more wholesome. Mark my words - it will just be a matter of time before Marvel stumbles on profit expectations and the “creative” suits from Disney start meddling. Also, the joke about the Jonas Brothers is apt and I think there is reason to worry. Bland crap factories like Disney love corporate cross pollination (pollution?) opportunities. The deal stinks - kill it...kill it with fire.
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and not to get into a political debate, but dubya actually did go AWOL, during vietnam he was defending texas from the threat of 4 foot tall vietcong guerillas, all of whom were actually in vietnam at the time, when he decided to not show up anymore. I believe that going absent with out leave is treason, and treason during wartime is punishable in a military court by death, but then I believe there is also a clause about having a rich senator dad being geared for the white house that changes that ruling. http://tinyurl.com/8fzk29 <P> http://tinyurl.com/yfy258
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we're going to see that fucking mouse's face on viles of blood at hospitals. When the Third Reich stopped...Disney continued.
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Disney is no longer the Disney most of us grew up with. Mickey, Donald and Goofy have been replaced by Hannah Montana, Jonas Brothers and Zach Efron. They are the new face of the business. Flip on the Disney channel and you see very little of Mickey anywhere. Pixar's Spider-Man 5: The Rise Of Hannah Montana Starring: Zach Efron - Spider-Man/Peter Parker Miley Cyrus - Hannah Montana Soundtrack provided by Jonas Brothers
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Good on Corey.
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seriously. did not see this coming.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST
Joe Q will soon have time to play checkers with Jim Shooter.
by Uncle Stan
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not starring will smith.
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And she chews too much gum
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My mother would not approve, but it's my decision to make.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST
marvel usedta remind me of disney inthat both didn't do anything
by ironic_name
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99 cent stores to buy AICN..Harry Knowles initial ipo will be converted to cheetos & off brand ramen noodles..as per his request
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I'm STILL waiting for Square Pegs: The Next Generation.
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yeah, cause that'll make the fans wanna see it oh so much more. Stick the fairy dust up your ass, Disney, take the old man's cryogenetically frozen head, and fuck off.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST
COREY FELDMAN'S NEW BAND IS "THE OFF BRAND RAMEN NOODLES"
by ironic_name
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Mary Jane Watson recast with Miley Cyrus?
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Aug. 31, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST
HIS FIRST TRACK IS TITLED "I STIRRED THE GERTZ BOX"
by BringingSexyBack
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Aug. 31, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST
Disney will colonize every country on the planet....
by cheyne_stoking_DMS
Together Walt's Frozen Head and the animated mouse will rule all with an iron fist. Heads will roll.
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The Musical!
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IF YOU THOUGHT CG WAS BAD.
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Now we can see The New Avengers get made!
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Alla this here corporate buyouts make me nervous. Especially since ah grew up with this here Marvel stuff. Ah don't know if this is a good thing or a very bad thing. More'n likely it's a very BAD thing...
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catwoman <P> batman and robin <P> superman returns <P> canceling jlu <P> banning batvillains from jlu <P> probably banning dc writers from commenting on the war in iraq in a way that is less than favorable. <P> etc.
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they won't have to change the names and powers around.
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The Hulk and Kermit the Frog singing a duet of "It's Not Easy Being Green."
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that comic story was a frightful experience..
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*Mickey Mouse voice* "With great power comes great responsibility! Haha." I'm declaring right now, if they try and buy out DC, I'm going last 45 minutes of 'Terminator 2' on their ass.
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I wanna buy everyone a round on the thread.
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Mickey, Donald, Ben Grimm and Galactus. Should be a multipart series right there. W/ Giant Robots, too!
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its not an independent comic studio like Marvel used to be until today.
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characters as superheroes for years now.Phantom Duck,Super Goofy,Indiana Goofy,even Mickey Mouse is a private detective.So the jokes about the possible amalgamated superheores or crossovers arent very far-fetched,
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Don't let me go to Hell! I swear I lived a good life!!!<P> Fuuuuuuuuuuck. NOW what??
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It's no revelation that Disney as a company are monolithic as well as having a cultural agenda linked to the conservative right. What the hell does it mean for culture in general when one company has control over so much of the creative media, especially that targeted at kids. Still as far as Marvel itself goes, this could go in many directions.<p>Best case scenario: Marvel and Disney use the combined stories, talent and distribution means to do what we've been waiting for someone to do for years: an entire range of adult-themed animated cartoons based on the Marvel stable utilising the cream of the writing staff.<p>Worst case scenario: Just look at any of Disney's product ranges - ABC kids shows, their animated movies, their treatment of acquired properties such as the Winnie the Pooh characters - all homogenised, reaching for the middle of the road, all fitting one particular aesthetic. How long before someone from Disney is brought on as editor-in-chief and the variety of titles as disparate as Punisher and the Fantastic Four become eerily similar?
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FFFUUCCKKKKK!!!!
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FFFUUCCKKKKK!!!!
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a spider mouse can.
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Disney eats Marvel... weird.
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Disney is trying to obtain the rights to Michael Jackson's corpse. Anyone hear this?
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reduced to a 2-hour event on the Disney Channel. Soundtrack by The Jonas Brothers.
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if the Corporate Cocksuckers can see what a lame stunt it really is?
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could you give it a rest for awhile? sometimes less is more...actually, in your case, less is always more and none is most.
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regarding the degree of autonomy those involved will have... preferably from someone at Darvel. The vagueness of all of this offends my sensibilities.
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he'd speak out against this. Not that it'd do diddly dick. Just for good measure. Everyone and their mom should be booing this.
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Mickey Mouse or Bugs bunny... you would think bugs because mickey would be a douche.... Bugs would seem a cooler dude until he screws you on a deal and his only reaction is "Geee, ain't I a stinker?!" -- Still I think bats and superman are happier working for the rabbit than Wolverine is working for that whiney annoying mouse.... I give hime a month before he snikity snik cuts him up!
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has GOTTA be more respectable than working for the mouse. The mouse is the filthiest whore on the planet. Excuse me, gentleman, I must take my Mickey Mouse shower gel shower.
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No way. Disney sucks donkey dick. They haven’t done anything; outside of Pixar supporting their ass, that would make me thing that this deal is nothing but bad new to us fans. Didn’t Disney get their hands on the Muppets some time ago? So what happened to them? Nothing. The Muppets, just like every kid actor they have are being whored out until they are used up and can be discarded like those damn mouse hats. Hell, Disney doesn’t know what to do with the properties they have now, so it’s really makes no sense; other than cheap crossovers and cutesy Disneyfied Marvel which I do not want. Would it be cool to see Pixar handle some of the Marvel characters? Hell Yeah! But the fact that the Mouse will have its greedy white gloved mitts on every thing Marvel does not suit well with me. There is still a lot to clear up about this deal. Disney has gone to the crapper and I really don’t like this proposed deal. There can be some benefits for Disney to have Marvel and help develop some stuff, but other than Pixar, Disney has not done a damn thing that would ease my mind on this deal. There are just too many questions with legitimate fears behind them, but hopefully we get more details on this deal. Yet it really sound like a bad idea for us fans.
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more than the Disney Marvel merger, people need to speak out against chronic, bemused tb posters. lockesbrokenleg - has anyone, aside from your mom, ever told you that you are funny? has anyone ever told you have an interesting point of view?
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potential licensing issues aside, I'm curious how the next main game in the series is going to play out now between this and the Pixar deal.
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some of you are digging marvel/pixar movie ideas is beyond me. You're flipping off Disney with one hand and jerking them off with another.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST
If there is a Jonas Bros. Marvel character crossover...........
by LeftFoot
I'm already having nightmares about Disney teen characters doing stories with Marvel characters. Hanna Montanna becomes Tony Stark's new secretary. Jonas Bros become way, WAY to attached to Spiderman. Oh the horror.........
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This could be a really good thing
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This could be a really good thing
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Aug. 31, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST
You'll see Disney characters dressed as Marvel characters
by YackBacker
Little plush toy crossovers. Cheesy little throwaway toys that will end up on some landfill in NJ... courtesy of Chinese child labor. I love the smell of a corporate takeover in the morning!!!!
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featuring The Amazing Spider-Man!
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Just keep posting your same drivel over and over again. All 3 people read it.
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...for "Howard The Duck"! And Kingdom Hearts character pool just ex-fucking-ploded!
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It's just what the crab people (Disney) want us to do.
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I'm not alone. You post too frequently (virtually non stop for hours on this topic, for example) and you aren't funny.
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All douchebags sound alike.
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I very much enjoy the idea that this Disney/Marvel deal is all part of an elaborate scheme by Stan Lee to get ahold of the proprietary frozen-head technology. <p> I picture Stan and Walt's reanimated heads sitting side by side in bell jars in the year 3000, Walt railing against those "goddamn Jews" while Stan glances around nervously.
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Please pity him. He's a douche.
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It's the craziest thing. The Flash statue in my room magically grew mouse ears. Better call an Exorcist.
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I'm sorry, what is a mod wannabe? All I want is for you to stop posting mindless crap like "Make Mine Disney!" Seriously - read RKDN's post - is he a douche too? Is everyone who wants you to give it a rest for awhile a douche? Do you think we want to have to tell you to edit yourself? Just sit back and shut up for a little while - you have been posting non-stop on this topic for 4 hours. 4 hours and you have nothing to contribute. Thoughts aren't interesting just because they popped into your otherwise vacant skull - learn to exercise a little discipline...
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Aug. 31, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST
kingdom hearts 3 is going to make me cum out my ass
by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN
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Obviously not...either that or they are giving free computer time to the retard classes.</p><p>This is GREAT news, both from a creative standpoint and a business perspective.</p><p> Look...Disney is in the business of making Money, they will NOT sanitize the Marvel brand, it is far too profitable as is, hence the fact we are paying $4 Billion dollars for it. You think Disney is going to pay that kinda scratch for something that they want to start changing wholesale? You think $4 Billion is buying at firesale prices because Marvel isn't profitable on its own? Go back to business school folks....or better yet, enroll....soon.</p><p>Also...Disney is not, nor is any other large company, under the control of the religious right...or the radical left...they are under the control of the wonderful, beautiful, market. They act in ways that will make for their stakeholders the biggest return on the smallest possible outlay. THIS is why Disney has for YEARS extended insurance to partners of homosexuals, and why they allow Gay Days to happen without comment or hindering the event. Disney realizes that the homosexual community is an important part of its fan base and stakeholder portfolio. In fact Disney told the Religious Right to go fuck themselves why they tried to Boycott over these facts. So you can put that in your "Conspiracy" pipe and smoke it.</p><p> Disney will not Fuck up Marvel...Disney will give Marvel improved distribution, endless amounts of capital, and access to creative outlets that they could never have had privy to on their own; Disney gets a proven product with endless creative opportunities, and most importantly a product with the ability to interest the male 11-18yr old demographic they fail to reach now. This is nothing but good.
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IN THE SAME MOVIE HOLY SHIT!!
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see, here is another good example - was this supposed to be amusing? seriously, were you amused when you came up with this? did you imagine anyone else would be amused? really?
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"Hey, Marvel queers! How's it feel to be Mickey's bitches! He likes it when you cum in his ears! HAHAHA!" - Batman (Frank Miller style)
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Aug. 31, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST
Marvel shouldn't have to sell out to the mouse......
by cheyne_stoking_DMS
A creative standpoint? That's something Disney couldn't possibly begin to fathom. All they do is re-release all their classics on dvd. That and buy out everything in sight. Only because they can. They give capitalism a bad name.
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Go visit the Young Republicans forum. I they're they're looking for some gays.
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Marvel is over.
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...BoE is trying to give you good advice. Listen to him. Quality over quantity. If your posts were deleted from this thread, it would lose half it's length but not very much actual wit.
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that was even worse.
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Whoever wins, everyone loses.
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CALL OUT THE WHAAAMBULANCE
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...for your decomposing comedy routine.
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Take Trannyformers_Apologist advice. You have three people imploring you to stop and your last post was so strange it makes you appear to be in serious denial...who asks someone to unclench their "tight ass hole" at the same time they are calling them "gay"? Why don't you go ponder that while you are taking a rest from the computer. Doesn't that sound like a good idea? Sure it does...
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It's all fucking bullying in these TB's anyway. I don't give a shit.
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Check out the post I left for you over in the Nolan TB
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I take back everything i said about Avatar...well, maybe not everything.
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BOE is the god damn leader.
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he has about 20 usernames
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Not that there was ever gonna be one, but there REALLY won't!
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Capslock wins friends.
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Dude, why would someone have multiple anonymous usernames? Again, you're coming off as strange. If you are an invalid or a shut-in or something, I apologize. If not, we have all been overly civil and patient with you. Regardless of your circumstance, you really need to let the grownups talk now.
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I know that's rich coming from me, but there you go.
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BoE- Right back atcha... I, ah... take back that bit about your sister. If she exists. Unless she's cute. <p> Toad- Haha, thanks, man! I'll give Brane one thing, he inspired some classic mental images. Glad to hear those old lines are not lost like tears in the TB rain.
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But here's your new side-kick Aluminum Lad!!!
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Aug. 31, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST
DISNEY AND HITLER ARE PLAYING CARDS WITH SATAN IN HELL!!!FACT!!!
by CarlThorMark1978
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Stay away!!!!!!
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Seriously, people at this fucking site act like dictators.
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Now will be known as MISTER Toad.
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His cryogenetically Frozen Head watches you in the Epcot Ball.
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some awesome movies based on Marvel characters. It would be a helluva a lot better than that animation crap that made Avengers 1 & 2.
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Mickey Mouse named Sorcerer Supreme.
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Yeah, oldie but goodie!Always count on Brane for entertainment.
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Why are you deflecting?
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Next Avengers anyone?<br> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Avengers:_Heroes_of_Tomorrow
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What do they have? Batman? Oh gee. I give that 1 more movie.
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Stop it.
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Just when I was thinking about sticking up for your sorry ass. Burn him at the stake.....
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Tell you what - you can only post something you think is genuinely funny and/or interesting and we will tell you if you succeeded. One thing - it has to be intentionally funny and/or interesting; the 'unclench your ass because you are a gay young republican' line was funny and even interesting (more disturbing), but not in the way I think you intended.
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ABC can schedule it to go head to head with Heroes.
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They do own ABC
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... it is revealed that Spider-Man villain Mysterio was behind the whole thing.
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Infinity Gauntlet refitted to have only four fingers.
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Lockes - Take notes, boy.
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With the Hellfire Club as the antagonists. <br> Most of the members of X-Force are not going to be in any X-Men movies anytime soon and are not essential to that continuity. <br> Gives the TV show a whole set of lesser known but still cool mutants to work with. <br> Some of the wider X universe can be explored as well... like the remaining Morlocks, the English team of Excalibur, as well as Black Tom and his group of outlaws and their run ins with Banshee's Gen X. <br> Loads and loads of material to grab from without having to include Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean, etc... <br> Hell, you could even have Sinister in the role of the Big Bad.
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That dumb mother fucker is too busy watching his mom get chilli doged tag teamed by Chip and Dale.
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How about that Disney buying out Marvel, heh?
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Dip shit.
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then everyone on the planet except me watches it.
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Wish I bought that stock years ago, I really did not care how much it would go up and down, just having stock in it would have been cool. I can't wait for CGI Marvel movies. I hope this brings the cost of comics down. I am hoping for a better Hulk movie, CGI would be better if done right. Ghost rider would be a good one to bring back also for another round.
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Juggernaught is 69ing Minnie Mouse while Mickey is getting the shit kicked out of him by Electro played by a slimed down John Goodman.
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people will be in actual movies.
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I like the idea of building on the x-men franchise, but i don't know if tv is the right place. I suspect some of you are smallville fans - the little I've seen of that show looked cheap and cheesy. X-men requires good (or at least adequate) fx - there are too many characters with too many powers. Anyone remember that awful new mutants tv show w/ banshee they tried to make a long time ago? This is another reason I found District 9 so intriguing - if they can manage fx like those for 30 m, making movies out of x-factor, force, excaliber, gen x, etc. should be possible for relatively little money (using unknown actors, of course).
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another 'Hulk' flick. It's like the big green engine that couldn't.
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Iron Man sends all of the Disney characters to a concentration camp. Walt Disney is re-animated and brought back from Hell where he fights Iron Man and ultimately gets his ass handed to him.
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They just got independence. Why? Does Disney have a history of synergy? Floored!!
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I love that show.
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I think a more stripped down show might work, if it had original characters people loved already AND previously successful writing/storylines. <br> Thats why i think 1602 would work. A period piece with more subdued types of mutations, yet still having the all star characters folks want to see, all without the costumes that sometimes come off as silly on screen. <br> They would just have to follow the miniseries comic, breaking down each comic into multiple episodes if they had to... they could get a few real good seasons out of it. <br> Even expand on it by filling it out with some of the sequels to 1602... or simply make some more stuff up. <br> You know they wont pass up getting Wolverine in there. <br> <br> Ill make that storyline. The dead King James body is stolen by Dr Essex/Sinister who then performs further experiments on him, alluding to a Frankenstein type scenario. Except that the results turn James into sort of a Wolfman... or more precisely a Wolverineman. :)<br><br> ... its shown that Essex had been manipulating King James all along using various elixirs and other alchemic methods. James eventually breaks from Dr Essex mental hold and flees into the forest. <br> Where he fights Hulk.
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Call me an optimist, but... That would be cool.
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Pirates? Tron: Legacy? All the other Bruckheimer shit? John Carter of Mars? Have you noticed that they've been ramping up big budget action tentpole production like mad for a while now? Are you paying attention to anything at all?
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but it's a kid's movie. Pairing that and Spider-Man would be a fucking terrible idea.
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Wow just fucking wow
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everything pixared<br> popeye arms on every male character<br> square heads with lantern jaws<br> everything made mid-gradeschool kid friendly<br> a jar jar'esq retarded sidekick in every film
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We've noticed. Now with this. We actually give a shit.
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http://angelcrusher.deviantart.com/art/Spider-Mouse-135432223...(remove spaces)
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has just read Goofy's mind and knows where he and Donald are keeping the bodies.
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By way of Miramax. And they also released Clerks in 94. It's not as if they turn everything into Mickey and Hana Montana. I doubt all of the cross-pollination of Disney/Marvel will be as rampant as we expect. I'm just worried about Marvel's movie slate slowing down to a trickle ala DC movies at Warner Brothers. Well, I do want to see an Incredibles / Fantastic Four Pixar animated film, but that's just me.
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Instead of other cartoon people, Roger goes to Superherotown.
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good point, but i suspect that disney has different designs for marvel and, like i said earlier, i don't think they understand comic books or comic book fans. if marvel movies are released under the disney name, you can forget about moral ambiguity or violence or sex or anything else that challenges the status quo. I don't think that Iron Man would have been the same movie if Disney had been reviewing the dailies. Further, Disney may not cave to religious groups anymore, but they will bend to parents - if some idiot kid gets upset at a test screening of Disney's Wolverine III movie, you can bet it will go back to the editing room.
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Disney, for whatever "zomg whitewash censors!!!!" crap you toss on them, are in the business of making MONEY. They aren't going to abandon a demographic they want to expand in. The superheroes allow them to hit the younger boy market much like they hit the younger girl market with the Disney Princess+Fairy stuff, and the edgier stuff allows them to reap the benefits of older (and loyal) demographics. All they do is just release it w/o the Disney name attached like they did with Miramax. As Tallboy pointed out, that never fucking bothered any of you before.
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...you know there will be a Spider-Duck (or an Eggs Men), and a Fangtastic Four (for Pluto)...but, y'know. It might not happen. :-P Excelsior! I guess. Pray for Mojo.
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I've been a line manager at a hedge fund for the last 5 years and I've been working in finance since I leaving college; I've worked for a half dozen domestic and foreign banks, primarily in a consulting capacity. I know a fair amount about business. It is what I know about business in general and Disney in particular that worries me about this deal. Disney's family friendly image is more important than the Marvel fanbase. Marvel will be slowly remodeled and in a decade it will be a neutered shadow of the company I loved as a kid.
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and didn't it fuckin'suck? Bring back Eddie Valiant. Eddie was the fucking man.
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I could've sworn they did a sequel that sucked.
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Regardless of how I loathe Disney, I agree with Specktron: it was a very smart move on their part - Marvel is a great property.
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They have the same initials, and both have a nicely curved tail.
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to do RR animated shorts before films, but they really sucked.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST
I think Disney demographic expansion supersedes family friendly
by Tall_Boy66
When, let's say all the movie properties eventually revert back to Disney (I'm not sure if that's 100%, though, if Fox and Sony keep punching out X-Men and Spider-Man movies respectively), I think they want to expand to the loyalist fanboy geek superhero market. Which means relative fidelity to the source. Which would mean, like, not pandering to the family friendly demographic. I think if Disney made a Punisher movie, I'm pretty sure he'd kill people. Let's just guess what studio banner they'll be released under, probably just Marvel Studios again.
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You're still my favorite TBer man. Keep up the good work.
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Whats the deal?? You guys are seriously lagging this time.
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http://tinyurl.com/loganmouse
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http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a154484/zemeckis-buzzing-about-roger-rabbit-2.html
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as much as I love 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' I don't know if audiences today will even remember that movie. Still, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Gimme a break all you muppet cummers blaming Disney for getting diddly out of the muppet deal! The Muppets did themselves in with crap like Muppets In Space. Disney *rescued* them from deserved oblivion, and what did it get in return? NOTHING but whining from Kermit worshippers. At least Spidey makes money, although I still pretty much hate this deal. It just kinda makes me cringe. Is ANYTHING left of Walt in the Walt Disney Company?
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The first film had some problems, most notably with the fact that A. you had a human woman sleeping with a rabbit and B. Roger was kind of a pain. He was too Tex Avery and not enough Chuck Jones IMO. But a sequel could rock if it had a better script than the originals. Hey, it could happen...Empire is better than A New Hope PRECISELY because of the scripting...
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672 total posts on this topic and counting. Must cost a fortune to host this site. You must be rolling in it, Harry, my man, though you have honestly earned it if so. I love this site.
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Disney will do NOTHING with what Marvel is. Nothing. A company does NOT spend $4 Billion of the stakeholders capital to simply reorganize and dilute what for THAT price is a STRONG property.</p><p>What this gives Disney is a very good property to penetrate the 10-18yr old male demo..hehe I said Penetrate...a Demo they have all but given up on as it simply takes to long to develop the product, and gain a toe hold in such a hard fought segment. This was $4 Billion worth of instant credibility and market share. Overnight Disney went from a nothing in the preteen and teen male market to a major player. Marvel is not something they picked up at a firesale...it was a smart move by two successful companies to further their respective goals. Disney may get the boys market, but the guys at Marvel get the security of the Disney Umbrella, and a mountain of capital to do things with their creations they could have never done on their own. Watered down Marvel my ass. Iger and this deal is the best thing to happen to Disney and Marvel.
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I found it compelling. The son is a bit of a misfit though. I would love to go to a strip club with the old man- he probably knows more hookers than a Kennedy brother! ZING!
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Surprised it hadn't been posted yet, odo19. http://tinyurl.com/nv4ny9
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Like get rid of the cloud galactus and put galactus back in the Fantastic Four. Get rid of the lightning dude and put a real villain in Hulk. Refine graphics in X-Men 3. You know, I don't know about you guys, but a shitty ass Marvel movie wouldn't be half as bad if they did them more frequently. Like 2 movies a year, so we can get our X-Men fix going. I think the problem is that the wait between X films is too long and so when you finally want to go see it you're disappointed because you waited so long for this. But if it happened more often, people would enjoy the film for being an X-Men film first, a piece of film second (like X-Men and X-Men 2).
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Disney can immortalize the characters, as long as they don't cut off Wolvie's balls.
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Well, you are right in that they don't kill the goose intentionally, they do it with a bunch of good intentions and paternalistic micro management. That is what is going to happen here (just my prediction - we will see; hope I'm wrong of course). Another thing - those trumpeting the virtues of the merger keep coming back to the benefit of having all that Disney money and clout to develop more properties. As we have learned from lockesrelentlessyacking, more is not always better. I, for one, don't really want to see a tidal wave of Marvel movies and tv shows and rides and video games and t-shirts and breath mints and burgers and feminine deodorant products littering the ad-scape. Disney is a too much is never enough kind of company. Here again, hope I'm wrong.
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They keep mentioning over 5000 characters - is there a list out there somewhere? I'd like to see it; I'd particularly like to see it cross-indexed by "universe".
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Fuck you, lockes. One man, one username. Anyone with multiple names is a dipshit...just like you.
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...the continuation of his strange rivalry with Chief Redcock. That shit cracks me up everytime I see it.
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is imagining the following phrase in Mickey's high pitched voice: "Hey Bub.. ha ha!"
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Nice job bringing my name into a Talkback I wasn't participating in. How cowardly of you, pussy.
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Shhhhhhhhh - don't stir him up - we just got him settled down for a nice nap...
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I see that you've had the displeasure of crossing paths with lockesbrokenleg. He used to be known as "skywalkerfamily" until he got banned for being an annoying simpleton. As you have so rightly noted, lockes posts are nothing more than gnat-like Tweets. He's entirely unfunny and seems incapable of writing more than 3 sentences at any one time.
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Oh, right. Did you shoot him up with Thorazine?
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I think I'd actually like to see that, out of sheer perversity.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST
Batman and Superman have been toasting all day...
by cheyne_stoking_DMS
because they still have their dignity.
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Hudgens' nudity, however...
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST
I'm not sure what to think about this Disney/Marvel buyout...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...but then again, I don't know that I rightly care all that much.<P>Any chance they'll figure out a way to work Goofy into the AVENGERS movie?
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took Bats and Supes dignity ages ago.
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Make it so!
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Go get a room
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Wolverine and the X-Men statues advertisement at the top right of my screen. All it needs is a Mickey Mouse between em' and it's good...
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Batman & Robin and Superman 4 didn't take any of that away, no sir.
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** lockes weeps **
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I would watch that.
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horrendous piece of shit. That slate was wiped clean in 2005 anyway. As for Superman 4...it's whatever.
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According to Variety. Will it star Kermit?
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of Mickey, according to this blog (pic is on the page, and yes, this is for real):<p>http://tinyurl.com/kingkirbykingdom
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Someone pleasetell me this is some kind of bad joke or belated April Fool's Day gag gone awry....
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Does this strategy of yours work in the real world? Do you wander from conversation to conversation tossing out juvenile comments and asinine quips? Do you find that petty insults help you to gain acceptance? Everyone here has been pretty even handed with you - how sad and irritating do you have to be to get this much flack in an anonymous nerd talkback board? I'd really like you to reflect on that. Do you use all the spare time you amass not having a girl or friends or a life practicing your cringe inducing douche technique? How is that going for you? No...don't respond...give it a few minutes and mull it over before you get back to me.
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That's it. I'm very very worried about this. Disney is the biggest panderer to middle america out there.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST
X-Men, Fantastic & Spidey are never going back to Marvel/Disney
by Tall_Boy66
Basically, as long as they keep making product, it's not going back to them. I can see Daredevil going back. Maybe Fantastic Four if this 3rd crack at the bat turns out to be another dud. (Rebooting THAT early is kind of lame anyway). Spidey? No way. That's going to be the Engergizer bunny of franchises for Sony.
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Any minority group pressure and they cave in. Corporate wimps. I am so sceptical about this. I really hope Marvel know what they are in for and autonomy is written one hundred times in the contract.
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AKIVA. GOLDSMAN. AKIVA. GOLDSMAN. AKIVA "BATMAN FOREVER" GOLDSMAN. AKIVA "BATMAN & ROBIN" GOLDSMAN. IF YOU THOUGHT THE FANTASTIC FOUR FILM FRANCHISE WAS AT ROCK BOTTOM, YOU WERE WRONG
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AKIVA GOLDSMAN, WRITER OF BATMAN AND ROBIN
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Akiva "Hancock" Goldsman. Akiva "Worst Fucking Superhero Movies Ever Made" Goldsman. Akiva "Bury the Batman Franchise For 8 Years" Goldsman.
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Fox says: NO MARVEL YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BACK NOT NOW NOT EVER. WE ARE FEEDING IT TO A VERY SICK DOG. SOON, IT WILL BE DOG DIARRHEA.
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Will we see nipples on our beloved Marvel Icons?
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How many years will the Fantastic Four franchise stay dead after Akiva Goldsman's done with it? His best score to date is 8 after Batman and Robin, but I bet he can top that.
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while it averts attention to whatever you write it makes you look like an idiot.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST
RE-UPDATE!! Spider-Man, Thor, Captain America, The Fantastic Fou
by JackKnife11358
This is a bad idea. The Mouse will start telling how and what to do. And when the movie deals with other studio's are done then the Mouse will want to do them. In all this is just a bad idea and we the fans will suffer for it. Bye bye Marvel nice to know ya.
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Sorry about the capslock, but I actually am trying to draw attention to the fact that Fox just put the Fantastic Four "reboot" in the hands of the guy who brought us the wonderful scripts for Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Hancock. That's AKIVA "BATMAN AND ROBIN" GOLDSMAN.
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Christian Bale will star as SPIDER MAN.
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you can do whatever the fuck you want. You can type in capslock, Arabic, klingon whatever the fuck you want because you've shown to not even count.
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this entire thread and the non-existent threads Harry's chubby cheetoh stained fingers didn't type up yet doesn't like you.
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at Islands of Adventure (IoA), Orlando will have to be moved out of the park. It's the best ride in that park (or of any park) and whilst it will still remain the best park without it, it would be a shame to see it go and also annoying to have to go to another park if you want to ride it as well [as the other rides at IoA]. Re the movies: I hope this doesn't mean future releases will go soft because of Disney's influence and brand ideals. On the plus side the Pixar involvement is very interesting!
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brilliance.
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you win AICN for best display name. Congrats.
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Aug. 31, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST
Disney will buy ILM and LFL shortly after GL passes away
by ThePilgrim
You know this to be true. Just you wait and see. Star Wars will be remade with in the next 40 years.
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... is all the insight regarding this revelation from Harry and the rest of the gang? Damn absentee landlords.
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Do you really care? That is - would you really call it insight? Both collider and chud have good editorials on the topic.
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Yeah. Maybe you're right.. CBR has a nice breakdown of the terms and some good comments from industry guys as well.
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If I was evaluating properties for Disney, I'd look at the shop that developed the fx for District 9 long before I bothered with ILM - more bang for your buck.
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Is it more than 200 ? <p>
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Sept. 1, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST
Will Disney look at scaling back characters and comics
by Miyamoto_Musashi
and focus on the known characters/the brands too make as much cash as possible, will be interesting to see their business model for Marvel. <p> Long term where are comics heading, internet, TPB's only ?? <p> Will DC and Marvel promote creativity or will they be like Microsoft and simply buy out an indpendent that has created a good new "product".
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But I snagged Paste Pot Pete for $20...
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cant fuck up the x-men universe anymore i really dont give a shit. bring on the reboots
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Marvel auction, what a great idea, to get rid of the garbage, but make some geeks very happy.
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Marvel auction, what a great idea, to get rid of the garbage, but make some geeks very happy.
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Marvel auction, what a great idea, to get rid of the garbage, but make some geeks very happy.
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...well fuck my ass
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...was the Incredibles. There's hope.
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work on the Prawns.
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They are the outfit up in Vancouver, right?
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Iron Man 2 is a Paramount release, and Iron Man 3 may be Paramount or Disney, depending on what they hash out as the fifth film in the Paramount deal. The last Hulk film was a Marvel production and so the property will move to Disney. But it's not as if there is any value in that franchise any more.
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Iron Man 2 is a Paramount release, and Iron Man 3 may be Paramount or Disney, depending on what they hash out as the fifth film in the Paramount deal. The last Hulk film was a Marvel production and so the property will move to Disney. But it's not as if there is any value in that franchise any more.
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disney sucks
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Yes. Apparently, Weta just did work on the mothership.
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footage up on the front page of their website: http://www.image-engine.com/
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The quality of Marvel animation, which up to this point has been mediocre at best (though I'm surprised by how much I actually like Ironman: Armored Adventures) is going to improve dramatically. Marvel will have access to creative resources and outlets that they never had before. This is a good deal.
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Seriously.
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Marvel gave Fox their biggest heroes forever? What the fuck were they thinking? I mean the first two movies were good, but then the last two sucked, so they're batting 50/50, or whatever, (I don't do baseball stats!) but shit!
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Sept. 1, 2009, 2:09 a.m. CST
Iron Mickey, Ursula as Doc Ock, Daredevil Duck, The Incredible G
by D.Vader
I love it. Can't freaking wait.
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My greatest fear is for the X-men universe. X-men 3 and Wolverine are going a long way towards ruining the franchise. When kids see these movies and recognize how badly they suck, they aren't going to want to read the comics. This is the real problem with big, soulless mega-corporations buying up the rights to these titles - they can ruin them for future generations. It doesn't mean that much to me personally - I still have great memories of reading the stories first hand. I can still remember waiting for the Fate of the Phoenix to arrive (I subscribed, which was pretty lame because the new issues invariably showed up at the grocery store before my mailbox). I'm going to be disappointed if/when the studios turn decades of creativity and effort to garbage for a quick buck.
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after they filed for bankruptcy in '96, and sold the movie rights.
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I want those figures.
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properties within a certain time frame, they retain the rights, hence the rush on the FF reboot news on the heels of the Disney merger announcement. Expect Disney to buy back some wayward IP's, though.
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in the 90's, look up stuff about investor Ronald Perelman. Marvel came back after they did Marvel Knights imprint (adult line) and Ultimates -- and later dropping the comics code (doing away with the emptier excess of the 90's in the the superhero biz).
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Sept. 1, 2009, 2:40 a.m. CST
Does anyone remember when they did those multiple covers
by lockesbrokenleg
Like they had a shiny cover, a plain cover, an art cover, all for the same fucking issue? They're still doing it. I dropped out. I ain't buying 100 different covers for the same douchey story.
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I remember that with the Age of Apocalypse storylines, which I thought was a pretty great idea (the story, not the covers).
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That piled up. Then I realized. Shit! It's all the same story!
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I suggest you look no further than their animated series "Gargoyles". <p> That was a shot that was EXPLICITLY under the Disney banner and STILL managed to be fucking hard core when itneeded to be. For instance, the episode where Goliath ended up in a future dystopia where Hudson was dead and Broadway had his eyes cut out and we watched Xanatos' son explode before our very eyes, and at the hands of his own father. <p> And ah shit, Broadway just died too. And now I'm crying. <p> Damnit. This show rocked.
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are like the bunny and batman.... it's happened all that is left for us fanboys is to get use to it.
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to tell who reads comics..... The key are the folks dc comics allusions around Marvel news... fucking pinheads
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" Aw, hell...just shoot me in the head. "
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Just askin
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You hear me, GI Joe 2??
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Maybe stick with a core 7- Hawkeye, Iron Man, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Wonder Man, Moon Knight & the Black Panther. Aaaaawwwww, just thinkin about it makes me drool....hagagagagagagagaaaa
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Does that mean Disney just paid $800,000 each for Kangaroo, Gibbon and Stilt Man?
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We get two awesome movies (Iron Man, Increible Hulk) developed IN-HOUSE then get sold on to the highest bidder AGAIN.
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Scored by Vangelis! I think this is great news, the biggest reason being the Marvel distribution of Disney comics. Gemstone just shut down, because they had to mark up Comics & Stories to like $5 a book. Hopefully they'll reprint more old Gottfriedson Mickey Mouse stuff, when he was hardcore. Fighting spies and whatnot... it's a shame Mickey's synonymous with wussiness these days. Give me an animated Mickey Mouth in Death Valley! Or like the other guy said: A two-hour PRISONER OF WHITE AGONY CREEK! www.agenesisfound.com
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Sept. 1, 2009, 7:24 a.m. CST
IF MARVEL WAS GOING TO SELL ITSELF NOW WAS THE TIME
by BringingSexyBack
when it was worth buying.
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Miley Cyrus as Starfire is fine by me!!
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Are you a vampire?
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I never would have guessed from the tv-series.
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in fact, I want pixar to do stuff with everything and keep it the same quality as incredibles.
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Buying cool friends does not make you cool. You suck Disney!
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I think you're onto something. Super heroes have so far been cyclical. Golden Age 30s & 40s. Then nothing in the 50s. 60s rebirth with Silver Age. Then nothing in late 60s early 70s (remember X-Men was cancelled for a while). Then the 80s culminating in TDKR. 90s slump--Batman & Robin. And now the 00s beginning with the release of Spider-Man.<br> <br> Isaac Perlmutter (the dude who bought Marvel with Arad) will make $881 in cash plus about 21 million shares of Disney with this deal.<br> <br> Does he realize that super heroes are cyclical too? That's my guess. He's done marvelous things for our favorite super heroes. And I am grateful.<br> <br> Little disillusioned, though: I hadn't thought these guys would sell out. Then again, I didn't think Obama would sell out either... Or Bill Clinton back in the 90s...<br> <br> I call the end of the golden age of geeks 1999-2009. It began with the release of the Matrix and ends with the sale of Marvel to Disney. We had a good ride.
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Seriously, Pixar is one of the few houses we can rely upon to open with original films - not adaptations, not re-imaginings, not sequels (usually)... and that is a rare thing in Hollywood 2009. I would hate it to change.
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Nothing good can come of this.
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Disney is capable of some very cool shit. The Pirates movies (first one anyway). Something called Tron. What makes you think they'd tamper with something that seems to be working so effectively? Iger even said, "if it ain't broke don't fix it." in regards to creative control over Marvel. You're like a bunch of little kids with no perspective.
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Sept. 1, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST
Warner Bros. offers Lucas THREE BILLION for STAR WARS???!!!
by JDanielP
Sell!!! <P>Sell!!! <P>Sell!!!
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"If it ain't broke don't fix it" is exactly what we're worried about: turning Marvel into a formulaic marketable brand instead of growing and changing characters.<br> <br> Disney with Pirates and Tron is not the issue. The issue is what can Disney offer Marvel? And Pixar isn't the answer.
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I have seen tears roll like they did yesterday since they announced Final Fantasy 13 for the Xbox 360. Good times. Til there's any evidence of Disney messing around with Marvel, no reason to think they're going to instantly ruin it. <br><br>Oh, the other added benefit, seeing people go "They're going to ruin Marvel just like they ruined Power Rangers!" I've seen this well over a dozen times, and it never failed to floor me. I know guys and girls in spandex ain't exactly Hemmingway, but really, grown folks bemoaning the fate of Power Rangers? Christ on a cheese wedge, that's insane.
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this is bullshit....if the inside of my comics say disney im going to burn down the disney corporate building
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So this means The Rock will suit up for a Marvel Superhero? 3-D man anyone? aybe Cameron could direct it
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By Pixar would be so cool!
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The multiple covers are only for collectors, and they are nothing like the ones they had in the 90's, which usually feature gimmicks like you mentioned (foil, holograms, etc). Nowadays they have retailer incentive covers (example being, buy 10 copies of Spider-Man, and you can order one copy of the variant cover). The variant cover might be part of a monthly theme (Marvel 70th anniversary, Wolverine appreciation, etc) or just being a kickass cover. That way someone who wants to read it can just read it, and someone who wants to collect it can have a version that's a bit more rare. Everyone wins. Its great. <br><br>(Almost forgot they did have 1 shiny cover recently with, I believe, Ultimate Comics Spider-Man. But 1 over the past 15 years or so, I'll cut them some slack on that).
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With the purchase of Marvel Disney raped your childhood more than Michael Bay could ever do.
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Just terrible, terrible news. First 9/11, and now this.<br> <br> When's the last time we got a decent Marvel flick anyway? Spidey 2 was the only thing that's come close to being decent. Rickey doesn't see the big fuss. Sure, it's not incredible news, but it's a push at worst.
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Iron Man was great.
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Sept. 1, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST
am hoping a lot of these comments are tongue in cheek
by Miyamoto_Musashi
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http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007932.html?categoryid=13&cs=1
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Other than Downey's portrayal of Tony Stark, what was so great about Iron Man? Rickey thought that the action was 'meh' and the bad guy was uninspired. It doesn't hold up to repeat viewings.
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Del Toro to produce Deadman flick for DC/WB!
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No, just no! Damn, the Marvel-Heroes are tough guys and getting them into Disney would result in "more family-friendly" cartoons and Comics(meaning, they get too childish). I mean, I just can't imagine Disney keeping those brutal scenes of fight between some Characters and their Enemies. And if they're somehow wanting to aquire DC as next, one of my worst Nightmares could come true. The worst thing, that I could imagine, is seeing Batman starting to sing like in Ariel (Under the ground "under the ground" under the ground, there is my Batcave, and I have my batcape ...) that would just end to the destruction of those characters
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A lot of that may have been my low expectations going in. I wouldn't call myself an Iron Man fan so I wasn't expecting much. And now that you mention it, I haven't seen it in a long time, I should check it out again. I liked Hulk too, but I wouldn't try to argue that as some awesome Marvel comic movie. <br><br>Its also bugging me that I can't remember where that Rickey Henderson joke is from. That's gonna be with me all day.
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Dude, Disney bought Pixar for 7 billion dollars three years ago. Google it. Oh btw, Obama won the election... just to get you up to speed.
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make marvel mine
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Someone needs to say something positive, right?
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that Disney already puts out plenty of adult entertainment through a variety of divisions, and that jumping to the conclusion that they're instantly going to kiddy-fy everything is silly (oh, they definitely could, but I don't see any reason for making that assumption yet). <br><br>And from your words, sounds like you're going to be excited for the Spider-Man musical next year starring Alan Cummings, which began far before all this Disney/Marvel stuff.
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that some people want movie studios to tear up thier marvel contracts and would be happy never to see another comic book film ever again. such is their hatred for comic book films. one more thing. comic book films have had thier day. lastly i found the reaction to public enemies despairing. people gave out yards about transformers 2. yet public enemies tanked. this site has shat on fox for years for its dumb and empty headed creative decsions. disney buys marvel. we will get more of the same. i can hear it already lasster will be the new hate figure harry knowles. mark my words!
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a cars sequel. and not to dvd either
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a cars sequel. and not to dvd either
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a cars sequel. and not to dvd either
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Now all we need is Walmart to purchase Disney and the circle will be complete. I am glad I am half way to dead in my age and hopefully see no more horrors like this happen.
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Billy Ray Cyrus to play the creepy dude who rubs lotion into Wonder Woman's butt.
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..interfered with Pixar after the purchase? I remember the same groan inducing news and the liklihood of Pixar actualling making a not good film but then here we are some years later and Pixar's quality, while sometimes a bit too sentimental, is still quite consistently excellent. No?<p>Yes, it is the Kingdom of the Rat who now presides over our beloved Marvel properties but perhaps they only want part of the cash cow and not to interfere? They saw Pixar as successful obviously and didn't interfere too much from what I understand...<p>As much as I loathe the day I have kids and they verbally beat me into taking them to the Kingdom of the Rat, I have to hold out hope that Disney won't interfere. Surely they see the success of the pure Marvel produced properties...
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not enough details yet. But I can't help but worry that this even further decreases my chances of ever seeing an R-rated "Tomb of Dracula" or "Werewolf by Night" flick. Oh well. I'll try to be optimistic and hope that this means we'll see more of the older stuff appear on the shelves. Those omnibus editions are probably pretty expensive to print. Hope Randy Bowen gets to keep his deal with Marvel as well. Kinda scary. http://www.aintitcool.com/
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The problem is that Disney/Pixar and Disney/Marvel isn't necessarily an apples to apples comparison. When Disney bought Pixar, they took great pains to keep Pixar autonomous and in some ways it was more like Pixar took control of Disney (Jobs became the majority shareholder in Disney and got a seat on the board, Lasseter was installed as Chief Creative Officer of both Pixar and Disney Animation, etc.). Remember, Disney/Pixar happened at a time when Disney Animation was at a low and Pixar was at an incredible high. As the story goes, Iger realized how weak Disney Animation had become when watching a HK Disneyland parade, during which the only characters going by that were created in the past decade all came from Pixar. <p> I'm not sure anyone knows how the power structure at Marvel will change but it seems unlikely to me that Marvel will be given as much control as Pixar.
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Pawn Stars is awful, and many have said it's fake. Notice how when anyone tells the guys how much they think their item is worth, they hem and haw and find an excuse to bring the price down? These guys are scum. They are the last people anyone should deal with for money.
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As it's been pointed out, Disney just bought an entire market segment that is pretty happy with their brand. As you said, they bought Pixar to cover a weakness. Well, Disney hasn't had appeal to adolescent males in quite some time, and now they can make revenue off of a whole new slew of characters. The move makes sense to me, and what makes even more sense is to NOT interfere with the way Marvel does things. As a production brand, they have more consumer confidence than any other brand in movies, save for Pixar! Seriously, Pixar and Marvel are the only two studios in the last 20 years that have gotten press for blazing trails.
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With Pixar, Marvel and Square Enix under their belt and buckle, THAT, my friends, is a force to be reckoned with! <br><br>I don't ever see Pixar getting over their addiction to making family PG movies, and neither do I see Disney 2D animation doing so, well whatever, good for them... But Marvel CG flicks need to be at least PG-13 to deliver... The only other potential hope is if Disney acquires Square or has them make an X-Men or Avengers movie on par with the badassery and quality of Advent Children (of course with a better script/story, hell they could just adapt a comic book plotline). Also a Kingdom Hearts movie would be pretty awesome! It would confuse the fuck outta most American audiences, but they'll definately go! It has fucking Mickey Mouse! Marvel is off to a good start with some anime coming out on Iron Man. So all you comic book loving anime-hating bastards have to suck it up, you've got no other choice but to turn to the East. ANime's been pretty fucking good at adapting manga into animated form. With the right amount of money for good production values by the right studio, it'll be the magic kingdom you're looking for!
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Sept. 1, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST
INSOLENT CUR! BRING ME MY WENCH, AND SOME MEAD FOR COREY!
by ironic_name
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Since Disney generally ass-rape everyone with the cost of their DVD's FAR above the regular retail prices of everyone else, no wonder they can afford to buy Marvel.
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I'm not sure if this is good or bad. I mean if they give Marvel freedom like how Pixar has freedom then it'll be great. But if they try to control everything I fear we'll get more movies like Fantastic Four & Wolverine
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Come on, man.
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I'm a collector. A collector should go into a comic shop and buy a cool cover. Not the same one you can get in a regular store.
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Dude that's how business works. They have a store to run, overhead and rent to pay. They buy low, sell high. <P> It's like comic books. Some stupid guide will tell you an issue's worth $5, you go to the comic shop and they'll give you $.60 for it because they don't need it, they need to stock it and wait for it to sell (maybe 1 day, maybe a year), and they'll probably get $3 for it. <P> Rick and his dad's knowledge of collectibles is pretty extraordinary. They could easily work for an auction house. I wouldn't be surprised if they did business with auction houses too. I would - rather than letting some item sit on a shelf, auction it to some wallet-heavy bidders.
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What do you collect? Heavy-duty computer keyboards?
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Sept. 1, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST
If Marvel based Pixar films are as good as Ultimate Alliance CGI
by Stalkeye
I'm so effin there.However Disney may only release PG rated films just to grab the entire Family demographic.This deal does nothing for my skepticism until I see otherwise.
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After playing M:UA I had a real desire to see a full length movie based on those cutscenes. Amazing.
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It was like a 2 hour cutscene. Fucking enjoyed the hell out of it, and my pecker did too (for Baroness and the red head chick).
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You should get that checked out.
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Sept. 1, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST
BSB, I collect many things. Books, toys, autographs,
by lockesbrokenleg
DVD, movie props, movie costumes, I paid 400 books for an authentic Heath Ledger autograph.
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That was so clever. You should trademark that insult.
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So does this mean theres hope that Disney will get the rights from FOX'S grimy hold on X_men and other characters? Please tell me this is true.
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Do you wanna pawn it or sell it?
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Sept. 1, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST
I've had many offers for it, but it's in my Joker collection
by lockesbrokenleg
I have Nicholson, Hamill, and Heath. I just need Romero. One guy offered me 1,000 for it. It was signed at The Patriot premiere.
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unles you're going to auction that shit on Ebay, there's better things to do with $400.00 than purchase some actor's autograph.Are you even sure it's genuine as in not some forged shit?!? Now that's gully.
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The sequel to that came cannot come soon enough. Dr. Doom in Latvia deflecting those incoming missiles? Awesome. Galactus? Too damned cool for words. You even got to fight Fing Fang Foom at one point!!!
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This wasn't bought on Ebay. It was from a very reputable dealer, and it was signed in front of him, 90 percent of any autograph on Ebay is a forgery. The one I have is very rare, and only a handful of people have real ones.
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A sad, sad day for the industry. Guess we can look forward to such kid-friendly fare as "That Darn Punisher" and "The Absent Minded Professor X". But let's of course, defend this decision and overhype ourselves because of the possibility of the equally ludicrous concept of a Pixar/Marvel crossover.
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..cause MUA 2 looks even more promising than it's predecessor.And you missed out on Batman AA.Best Batman game since SNES' Batman Returns.(And that was almost 20 years ago.)Well, since there has been a price drop of $240, you might reconsider getting another one.
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Why would they? "The Incredibles" was their contribution to the genre and it was one of the best superhero flicks we've seen in years. Pixar isn't going to take on the baggage of an established property--they're M.O. is to create fresh new stuff. Dream on nerds.
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You have a valuable commodity.If you are ever low on funds, you know what to do..unless you want to hold out for a few more years depending on it's value.Otherwise, you are a true collector.Shit, I can't even get rid of my Mother's MJ figure (MiB from 1984.)for $50.00 on Ebay.<p>WTF!
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I am NOT giving Disney my $30 a month. Guess I have to find a new hobby. Maybe juggling live hand grenades.
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Didn't you read the papers?Disney/Pixar bought Marvel! So obviously they are interested in handling some of the Ips from the so-called House of ideas.Why not a Pixar animated Marvel Film? Then again..back to reality, it's Disney for ya ergo that shit might not happen.
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"haven't you paid attention to the AICN thread's topic"? Internet sarcasm at it's worst.
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Sept. 1, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST
Depends, Rollofpennies