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‘I Am Not Scared About Any Of This!!’ Sunday Brings MAD MEN 3.3!!
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“I don’t know what I did to get under your skin!!”
“Don wants copy Monday morning and art Monday night!!”
“This weekend??”
“You think I don’t know what you’ve been doing in there??”
“The last thing you want right now is a child!!”
“Take it back!!”
“I don’t want to have a fight right now!!”
“Then stop talking!!”
“What’s going on here??”
“You think money’s the answer to every problem!!”
“I’m in a very good place right now!!”
Titles and plotlines for tonight’s episode and beyond:
3.3 "My Old Kentucky Home"
A mandatory overtime session leaves the writers trying to stave off late-night boredom; Roger throws a party, and Joan and Greg host one of their own; and Sally and Grandpa have a run-in.
3.4 "The Arrangements"
Don crosses paths with his father-in-law; Peggy searches for a new roommate; and a new client with money to throw around is very excited about doing business with the firm.
3.5 "The Fog"
3.6 "Guy Walks Into An Advertising Agency"
3.7 "Seven Twenty Three"
3.8 "Summer Vacation"
3.10 "The Party"
10 p.m. Sunday. AMC.
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A mandatory overtime session leaves the writers trying to stave off late-night boredom; Roger throws a party, and Joan and Greg host one of their own; and Sally and Grandpa have a run-in.
Don crosses paths with his father-in-law; Peggy searches for a new roommate; and a new client with money to throw around is very excited about doing business with the firm.
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I just never bothered to catch it. I'm patiently waiting for 'Breaking Bad.' That show has never made misery look so much fun.
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This episode was accidentally made available to iTunes subscribers, and there's NO review of it?? Geez, this site really has become useless in terms of spoilers...
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now that betty is fat i dont watch anymore. tell me when shes hot again.
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This show reminds me of Twin Peaks.
Just the mood of it, the way the music will just highlight a scene, subtle is the style, and dialogue...there is no better show on TV right now.
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Couldn't find one in any of the usual places, and nothing for the Weeds finale either over at Showtime. Sneak peeks are good and all but don't short your viewers on the promos.
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It because of men like you Donkey Doodle that Betty is only eating melba toast and has not gained enough weight in her pregnancy. Honestly, shy of "the bump," you wouldn't even think she was pregnant. Course, the drinking and smoking also help to keep her weight down... ah the 60's...
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The official site always has nice promo photographs to vidi
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it truly is an art form.
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Two stars for each of Bridget Regan's breasts and 3 stars for the episode itself.
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Aug 30, 2009 12:08:13 PM CDT
PantherMatt wonders what the hell Legend of the Seeker is
by panthermatt
Stabby, care to educate?
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...with all those quotes it looks like one of my reviews of a Doctor Who episode !
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Wow, yeah, there's a really spectacularly famous series!
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Sticking with it in hopes it gets better, but it's Heroes Season 2 all over again.
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to come live with them did he do it to get back in the good graces of his wife?
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please give examples im finding it more compelling
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my guess wasn't that he was trying to get back into good graces, i think it was just a way of saying that he actually seems to care about her feelings and what not. He did something nice for her, cuz it would make her happy.
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I agree its part because it helps him look good for Betty, but I think its more that he thinks its just the right thing to do before the guy dies. Even if Don doesn't always DO the right thing, I think he is always intensely aware of it. He does what he thinks is important, nothing more and nothing less. I think respecting an old guy like that, Betty's father, even if he doesn't like him, when hes old and sick and alone, is something Don would want to do. He's a complicated guy, I think we can probably just leave it at that.
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It's a mainstream drama show, not genre cult show. How about a Talkback on Fringe. Herc on Twitter said that he has seen the season premiere. So Herc, which Charlie gets whacked?
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I like it, but they need to pick it up a bit.
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Crazy Hitler Avatar talk back is number 1. So sad.
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sorry thought she had to many cream buns in the off season.
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my mom didnt smoke during any of her pregnancies...all which occured during the early 60s yes, many women did smoke, but many women also knew that it wasnt great for the baby...and she definitely didnt drink
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over 11 million viewers seriously...what is the point of making good tv when today's children are being raised on crap go ahead, compare the shite that is presented as entertainment on the disney channel to the mickey mouse club fare of the 50s and 60s we are nearing the 40th anniversary of sesame street, and that show, made for preschoolers, has more entertainment value than most of the shite on the disney channel or nick
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It just got a lifetime achievement award on the Daytime Emmy Awards, like 10 minutes ago.As for Don taking charge of the situation with Betty's father, just look at the title of the episode. "Love Among the Ruins". Don's still trying to give some support to Betty despite their marriage being "in ruins". It may also fit with Roger, where he's trying to what's right for his daughter and stick with his new wife in the midst of the ruins of his family...Hate to get so artsy there, but I think that's the show's intention.What's weird is, I'm not quite sure if that was really what Betty wanted. Still, her brother does appear to be a little weasel.
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while watching this show I keep waiting for Don Draper to bust out the Supes costume. Please god let Hollywood catch on to how fucking awesome Jon Hamm is and cast him as Superman or Captain America. Charisma is hard to find on screen these days but this guy gives me a Harrison Ford esque shiver up my spin.
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It's interesting how many different cultural things we see in the show that we shake our heads at. But it's interesting to see an elderly parent suffering with Alzheimer's cared for at home. While it certainly does happen now, more often someone will end up in a rest home/nursing home. I think -- maybe I'm wrong -- in '62/'63 the nursing home option may have been used less than today. It's a difference that some may consider a positive for that era.
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Roger is in blackface.
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Didn't see that one coming. They definitely blindsided you with that particular scene transistion! Seemed like Don didn't really approve.
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Aug 30, 2009 9:38:55 PM CDT
Ha! Peggy is on a role with some classic lines tonight.
by mr. nice gaius
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wasn't too blown away w/ episodes 1 and 2, but this one is just great in a way i didn't expect
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Other than that, this episode has been great.
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Peggy getting high, Pete's dance sequence, ROGER IN FUCKING BLACKFACE, the singing Tigertones, Joan and the accordion...This would have been the perfect episode for Lynch to direct. I loved it.
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Are we sure that wasn't the actress lip syncing her own singing? I didn't think it sounded way out of line to be her actual voice.
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Pete and Trudy dancing was pretty unbelievable, and the looks Joan was giving Greg when he made her play, and Don once again opening up to a complete stranger more than anybody he actually knows, and the Jane/Joan faceoff, and Carla vs. Gene, but my favorite was Peggy, not only when she was stoned, but her discussion with her new secretary. Elisabeth Moss just blows my fucking mind - she is SO good. Best show on tv! And the end moment! That shot was so gorgeous. Uh... I can't speak...
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Yes, it was impressive, but somehow it also seems very appropriately douchey for him.
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Aug 30, 2009 10:22:51 PM CDT
"I'm Peggy Olson and I want to smoke some marijuana."
by mr. nice gaius
She kills me.
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Very interesting observation - I can totally see bits of this ep fitting in with Lynch's sensibilities.
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Then-Governor Rockefeller married his second wife on May 4, 1963 (a Saturday, of course, corresponding with the day of the week the episode takes place on). Because of the maypole dance in the last episode, I'd assumed it'd taken place on or slightly before May 1st.
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Don't get me wrong, the first two of this season were good, but they weren't up to par with what I expect from Mad Men. This episode fucking delivered. Elizabeth Moss, my goodness, how insanely talented are you? Every character was fantastic. Pete Campbell...what a fucking character. That dancing, ridiculous, and yet perfectly in character somehow. One of the best episodes of this series, in my opinion. Couldn't have enjoyed it more.
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someone else above mentioned the subtle looks that Joan was giving Greg while she sang. Holy shit. Has a show ever succeeded so masterfully with the subtle looks that provide such a wealth of information. I've rarely seen anything like it. It's so thoroughly conveyed so simply. Don does it the best, but Joan really blew my mind on that one. I can't get over this episode.
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So many great moments that you guys have already highlighted...Think will see that governor's aide that was hitting on Betty in the future?
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10. Nice to see how all that demon-fighting agility has transferred nicely into Pete's ability to cut a rug.
9. Nice to see Tom Cruise getting some tv work as Paul's Princeton alum/drug dealing buddy. Plus, Peggy's secretary looked a lot like Jerry Seinfeld's mom.
8. Tom Cruise's madras jacket was awesome.
7. Don seemed put off by the blackface, but initially, I think Pete was too.
6. Greg is a creep. On behalf of Greg's everywhere, I call for him to change his name.
5. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the scene where the guy was feeling up Betty's belly was not as erotically charged for the audience as it was for Betty.
4. I have a tendency to want to look below Don's uneasiness with Roger and detect a bit of jealousy, but I think it's just face value distaste. And I think Roger shamed him at the end by playing the friendship card, and that allowed Don to look at Roger's May-December relationship in a new way.
3. If MAD MEN were written by Charles Dickens or Horatio Alger, the old guy in the white dinner jacket would show up again at the climax of the series and buy the firm, making Don president, and tying up all loose ends so everyone could live happily ever after.
2. I realize Peggy's road to liberation is taking many paths this season, but I'm a little disappointed that so much of it seems to be coming through vice. (E.g., last episode it was the one night stand, tonight it was getting high.) Now before you say "Hey pops, lighten up! Don't force your narrow bourgeois sense of morality on us! Besides, she's achieving her actualization using her *brains* as well as her cooch and her ability to toke," I'd like to say that any strides made by her brains and talent seem to be taking a bit of a backseat to the more exploitative aspects, to the point where it's all about the exploitative aspects. Thus, this is the "Peggy gets high episode," and last week was the "Peggy shags a pickup" episode. What's next, the "Peggy murders a hooker" episode?
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Roger's display of fake happiness with his wife on the dance floor...leads to Don going to find his wife. They're all alone with no one to see and he kisses her passionately. Happiness.
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Sure, I may have been half watching while doing scales on my guitar, but I thought Roger dancing with the woman he loved regardless of whether there was anyone there to endorse it was poignant. What did I miss?
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But I thought the shot with Don and Betty at the end meant more. Don is trying really hard, and kissing her passionately, when at one point she said she wanted to dance, means something.
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Two things. 1.) I'm glad I'm not alone in sensing Pete's initial discomfort at the black face routine. In fact, he only smired/smirked at it when Trudy turned to him expectantly. I kept thinking to myself, 'God, imagine if that was YOUR boss doing that.' (2.) I'm also glad I'm not alone in thinking that actor looked EXACTLY like Tom Cruise, or Cruise back in his late 80's prime. He even had a similarly short stature.
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Roger and Jane together did seem to shed a new light on things for Don, and him going to Betty in that shady spot of grass was great, partly because she had asked to dance and then everyone dismissed the possibility because of her "condition." And after Jane's clumsy mention of their separation, it sealed this wonderful episode very well, as if Don was reminding Betty that they have moved past what happened. I wonder if we'll see that guy again who felt up Betty's stomach, but then I think back to the tow truck driver in Season 1. Betty sometimes has these "interactions" with random men, and we never see them again. It's almost like we're being reminded that she has an untapped potential that she's only fully wielded that one time at that bar. As for Peggy, I agree that it could be seen like the "Peggy gets laid" episode or the "Peggy gets stoned" episode, but beyond that I totally see how she's trying to level the playing field. She is fighting her own inexperience in some matters so she can continue to throw back in the faces of the men that they have nothing on her. Even how she dismissed Paul and Smitty when she did - her pot experience was an experiment, but also a means to an end. When she had no more use for them, she wasn't going to pretend like she wanted them around. Whether or not her forays into vice will eventually leader her to a darker place remains to be seen. I love this show.
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I thought the character's reactions were very interesting, most of the women were laughing and most of the men seemed amused. It was just Don that looked uncomfortable about it all (and with what he said to the guy at the bar about being at work pretending to be at a party, i get the feeling he was commenting on having to pretend to find that stuff funny as he would have to at work when in reality he doesn't like it.).
But most interesting was Pete, he looked genuinly confused, not upset or uncomfortable, but confused about the whole thing about why it was meant to be funny. Pete has always seemed incredibly socially awkward and I think that reinforced it, and how in some odd ways it can become a positive thing. -
Pete's blueblood pedigree figures very heavily into his character, and during the scene, I was reminded of Tom Wolfe writing in BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES about how (and I'm paraphrasing here) "Racism was frowned upon less because of any moral implication, but simply because it was considered bad taste." Roger's minstrel act was a grotesque display already considered taboo even by early 60's standards (which is why you didn't really see minstrels in mainstream entertainment again after Al Jolson). I considered that maybe it was on this level -- a shallow uneasiness having to do with mere decorum -- that gave the event a bad whiff for Pete.
But I'll reject that because A) most everyone else at the party was a blueblood, and there should have been similar reactions among them on display, B) my interp may be a bit labored, C) I don't think it would mean anything significant, simply backing up the fact that Pete is a shallow douchenozzle.
Rather, it could mean that there's some small spark of morality in the little sociopath. It's a very small incident that, along with other instances, shows that he's a complex character. Or to put it into terms Hercules might understand, he's like Spike. Maybe the Shanshu prophecy is about Pete. -
“I’m Peggy Olson and I want to smoke some marijuana,”
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"You don't need to be scared. I'm going to do everything you want for me." Just because it isn't funny doesn' mean it wasn't the most powerful line in the episode. I literally shook. That entire interaction was like watching the women's right movement go from being accepted to being enacted. It was almost too good.
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Roger: "Come in. Have a drink."
Son-in-law: "No thanks."
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His reaction to the black-face incident proved it. Roger and the other northern blue-bloods saw Al Jolsen, while Don saw the lynchings, segregation, and the "roadhouse" from his childhood. Also he may have had several African-American war buddies in Korea.-----later-----m
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Hope we get some awesome foreshadowing about insipid spoiled progeny making sex tapes.
Adds an interesting variable for future biz story lines. Conrad Hilton did not see that comin..good casting w/ Chelcie Ross too.
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"I don't want to argue."
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pre-nose job.
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I've always been a teetotaler, so I'm not big on characters that overindulge. However, part of Peggy's growth from the start has been making her more confident and getting her out of her shell. That means getting s3 Peggy to do things that s1 Peggy would never imagine. She's opening up, and becoming more confident. I see this as a one time thing - I don't think that we'll be seeing Peggy going down Janis Joplin Lane.
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I thought her speech to the secretary WAS funny. Great episode.
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I took Drapers reaction to the blackface as one of disapproval of silly antics, not some antiracist feeleings. ( Though part of me still thinks the writers just can't have Draper saying "nigger".) Damn the cast of this show is just so dialled in. The dancing in character! Insanely good.
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about the shot of Jane and Roger. To me, it paralleled--and I know this is a heavy comparison--but the Joan/Greg scene in the office. Here you have Janey barely about to stand as Roger props her up to dance because he's the man in the charge and if he wants that last dance, he's going to get it and reaffirm his power. I also thought that Betty was hoping for the man who touched her belly to come and instead got Don. Notice how the shot was framed, it looked like the bride and groom on top of a wedding cake.
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and say that I thought Roger and Jane's dance was rather tender. Sure, I think he was more or less 'propping' her up...but it was a melancholy and romantic (and melancholily romantic) moment for the both of them.
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Damn, clearly I hold my liquor less like Don Draper and more like Duck Phillips.
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damn, shame too since he was one funny fuckhead.
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While I do think yer a dick if you cheat on your wife, I think Roger's right on the money that Don's jealous. Don cheats on Betty but pretty much is guilty and miserable afterward. Roger cheats, and he feels little guilt, falls in love, divorces his wife, gets married and is happy. Don seems to sometimes want to make his marriage work, Roger just gave up on it. Maybe in Don's mind, someone screwing around like both of them do SHOULD be guilty and miserable. Not to mention, Roger has no guilt over not doing a god damn thing at work. Don may be jealous, even though Roger continues to be morally questionable.
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Great comment about the Shanshu prophecy!
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Betty's father. After Don and Betty left, I expected him to snap every single scene -- to accuse the black maid or to spank Don's daughter or whatever. But he didn't. He was being a gruff, but fairly loving and normal grandfather. I felt sorry for him for the first time, really. His daughter and son-in-law think he's got dementia, the maid thinks he's a racist *and* she treats him like a misbehaving child. Even Don's daughter, I guess, thought at first "he's just an old fool, he won't notice if I take his money," and from the way she acted she certainly didn't expect her grandfather to be all "business as usual," as if the incident had never happened. And I think he *knew* what she had done, and she knew that knew.
Grandpa defied expectations in this episode, I liked that. 'course, I still expect a meltdown sometime in the near future, but when it comes, it will seem all the more real and less soapy. -
I hope Herc makes an article about this, but just read that Mad Men has been renewed by AMC for Season 4.
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It won just about every possible award it could its first and second season, and will most likely do the same this year. The ratings are also climbing, not dropping. They'd be fools not to renew the best show on tv.
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I've read somewhere that the series finale will be in '71, if that's the case I can actually see Don Draper with thicker hair and sideburns and wide ties- the Mod Look for Draper and Co? Betty will look like her character in "We Are Marshall." Sterling should rightfully be dead by '71 and Sal out of the closet or too soon? I'd prefer 1981, the fashion-sense of '81 was more like the early sixties, I can see Don as a 56 year old.
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I believe that was one of the articles here "Draper to go to 1972". Anyway how so was 81 like early 60s fashion? All i can think of is that tthe disco era ended but not before the truly colorful period of the 80s occured midway so there might have been a more generic lull in between.
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