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I miss Godric.
This whole Mary Ann plotline seems caught in a rut. At least three times now her idiot minions caught up with Sam, and three times Sam screws around looking all scared until he decides to turn into an animal and escape with ease.
Hopefully things kick back into gear now that a Vampire Queen is on the case.
Tonight:
Episode #23: “Frenzy”
Debut: SUNDAY, AUG. 30 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
With the crisis in Bon Temps careening out of control, Bill seeks out the advice of Sophie-Anne (Evan Rachel Wood), the Vampire Queen of Louisiana, but must exercise patience before she gives him critical information. Meanwhile, Sookie and Lafayette find that protecting Tara from herself is more difficult than they anticipated; a desperate Sam turns to an unlikely source for assistance; and Jessica tests Hoyt’s allegiance to Maxine. Written by Alan Ball; directed by Dan Minahan.
Next week brings Labor Day weekend, so HBO’s not going to waste a fresh episode on you. The season finale arrives in two weeks:
Episode #24: “Beyond Here Lies Nothin’”
Debut: SUNDAY, SEPT. 13 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Bon Temps reaches a fever pitch as Maryann prepares for her ultimate bestial sacrifice, conscripting Sookie to be Maid of Honor at the bloody nuptials. Meanwhile, Sophie-Anne warns Eric to keep the lid on Bill's inquisitiveness; Jason leads Andy into the heroic abyss; and Hoyt struggles with Maxine's endless stream of insults. Deliberating on what may be his final move to save Sookie and the town, Sam places his trust, and his life, in a most unlikely ally.
A god as a season-long “big bad” in a series about a superpowered young blonde and her vampire boyfriend! Where does Charlaine Harris get her ideas?

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Debut: SUNDAY, AUG. 30 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
With the crisis in Bon Temps careening out of control, Bill seeks out the advice of Sophie-Anne (Evan Rachel Wood), the Vampire Queen of Louisiana, but must exercise patience before she gives him critical information. Meanwhile, Sookie and Lafayette find that protecting Tara from herself is more difficult than they anticipated; a desperate Sam turns to an unlikely source for assistance; and Jessica tests Hoyt’s allegiance to Maxine. Written by Alan Ball; directed by Dan Minahan.
Debut: SUNDAY, SEPT. 13 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Bon Temps reaches a fever pitch as Maryann prepares for her ultimate bestial sacrifice, conscripting Sookie to be Maid of Honor at the bloody nuptials. Meanwhile, Sophie-Anne warns Eric to keep the lid on Bill's inquisitiveness; Jason leads Andy into the heroic abyss; and Hoyt struggles with Maxine's endless stream of insults. Deliberating on what may be his final move to save Sookie and the town, Sam places his trust, and his life, in a most unlikely ally.



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Everything else they do sucks.
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Herc, Ms Harris doesn't write for the show. Her big bad wasn't a god in the book. In fact it isn't nearly as interesting as Ball's vision. Yes its been done before. So has your tired criticism. Its not your cup o tea, fine. Why write about it?
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Let me fuck you, eat a sandwich, and fuck you some more. Pretty please?
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anything on it, baby.
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no, that would be in 2 weeks.
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The vampire stuff is cool but yeah...
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not enough pianos in this show.
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It's a fang-tastic show. Badoom! I'm here all week!
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Two weeks in a row we get a True Blood TalkBack. Thanks, Herc!
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The maryann story has lived past its expiration date now and is ending the season on a 'meh' note.
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your bias against this show is utterly ridiculous. I think this season has been really strong, certainly better than Buffy's first, sixth, and seventh seasons.
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So everytime someone has something similar to a Buffy plot, he naturally thinks it was stolen from there.
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And everyone from the talkbacks could be part of the cast.
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Just got into this two weeks ago, really enjoying it. For me it's the best series currently going right now (as in, this summer).
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Aug 30, 2009 9:40:43 AM CDT
I gotta completely disagree on the True Blood storylines Herc
by nalapou
2 episodes ago when Jessica and Hoyt were finding out she's a vampire virgin, Lafayette and LettieMay were rescuing a fucked up Tara, Marianne finally went completely insane, Sam and Andy joined forces and everyone in Bon Temps got perma-black eyeballs, every time the story shifted to Dallas to show Eric, Godric, Bill and Sookie holed up in some windowless Dallas hotel I was utterly bored and couldn't wait for the story to shift back to Bon Temps... When Godric died it was a saving grace. Because Sookie, Jason, and Bill's reaction to the shit going down in Bon Temps was the best part of the season for me. Its been a great season, better than the first, and you should definitely show it more respect. It is not and will never be Buffy, but its damn entertaining and one of the finest HBO's ever produced.
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nalapou - I second your remarks , this season has been great ( and I didn't mind the Dallas plotline either ) .... now I just gotta read the books
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However, I think Harris has made it her own.
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I watched the first season and maybe half of season 2 and well I am just not feeling it. I keep waiting for it to smack me over the head but I find it too campy. IMO Alias first 2 seasons and even 3 blows away Buffy or at least what I have seen so far. I love True Blood , to me its superior in every way to Buffy.
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I personally enjoy True Blood better, mainly because they are not hitting you over the head with the whole metaphor about the problems of being a teen. I think that the creators of TB have realized that the best part of of the show are the supporting characters, and have given them all a lot to do this season. I find Sookie and Bill boring in comparison.
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Why is pretty much all vampire crap shitty romance stories for people who know nothing about real relations? Oh, and the accents still suck even more than the crappy acting. I seriously don't understand why people bother to watch this drivel.
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I watched Buffy and Angel and they were great but True Blood is great too and arguably better. I definitely love that True Blood seems nmore mature in comparison. Just looking at that Willow/Glory Fight scene makes me cringe a little (and again I'm a fan). Watching the new generation of shows: Lost, Fringe, Supernatural, Damages, True Blood etc. makes me realize how childish Buffy could be at times.
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really thats all that matters
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Prefer the vampire stuff, enjoy seeing how the human world and vampire world's co-exist, Maryanne stuff is ok
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...without Kitty Pryde, there would be no Buffy. Stop being such a whiny little girl about this.
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Definetely doesn't hold up as well as I thought it would, of course its not as bad as watching re-runs of A-Team or Knight Rider
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I get that it's supposed to be showing that True Blood is ripping off a Buffy storyline (would have been better to show a scene from Angel S4 with the Jasmine zombies) but holy hell, that was pretty terrible looking. True Blood season 2 has been great by the way.
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True Blood is more mature!! People get nekkid and stuff!
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Aug 30, 2009 12:01:57 PM CDT
Alexander Skarsgård should really have been chosen as Thor
by miyamoto_musashi
Watching his great performances as Erik or in Generation Kill, can't help but think they fucked up in casting Thor. Don't think they kid they chose instead has the character nor acting ability to carry the role of a "god".
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I don't know how much involvement Charlaine Harris has on the show, but the books are different from the television series. , The Buffy angle isn't really apparent outside the show. I am not saying she is original, but to say Charlaine is ripping off Buffy might be a stretch.
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Never really been into redheads, but something about Jessica is very sexy
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We get to see Anna Paquin's tits. And Lizzy Caplan's. And, God willing, soon Sookie will be chowing down on Evan Rachel Woode's bisexual undead snatch. Also, the line "That ain't god - god's got horns !"
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Both Whedon and Harris rip off Anne Rice. Bill = Louis , Godric = Armand, Jessica = Claudia, etc.... that tribunal scene in the first season for "killing your own kind" and one of the penalties could be being locked in a coffin for eternity.... the exchanging of blood to become a vampire.... shit, the whole idea of the P.OV. of vampires and not just some lurking monster for the heroes to go after. Still, TRUE BLOOD is a lot of fun, it's like Buffy for adults.
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Joss Whedon basically redesigned The X-Men. Not saying Buffy/Angel aren't great.
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Also Eric=Lestat
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Bag of knives.
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Seriously, are you a critic/journalist or a tantruming little fucking child? Jesus. Have you got anything to post aboutother than Buffy and Amazon links?
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Harris's original (book) plot did not involve a 'god' - and this was not a major plotline. BALL amped up the maenad, added in a 'returning god' idea and the throngs of black-eyed followers, so blame *Ball*, not Harris. there is really nothing about Harris' books that's derivitive of Whendon's Buffy.
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I've watched every episode of True Blood so far whereas I couldn't even make it through the clip of Buffy posted in this article.
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chronicallydepressedlemming - that says it all, doesn't it.
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How very petty.
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I loved Buffy and Angel (Angel moreso), but I just don't see any sort of comparison to Buffy. The main character is blonde, and it's about vampires. Comparison ends right there. Nothing else is even remotely similar.
That said, I will agree that while I have hated the Tara/Eggs/Maryann thing, I could not WAIT for Bill/Sookie/Jason to return to Bon Temps to find out all the shit that was going on. And last week, the trio of Jason, Andy and Sam was absolutely pitch perfect. I loved every second, and I am absolutely loving Jason finding his role as not quite a dumb lothario, not quite a bible thumping "soldier" but fitting somewhere in the middle as the heroic dope who loves banging. These last few episodes have made him my favorite character. -
Harris never used the Maryann character as a big bad,actually, she is only mentioned in passing nor did she use the returning god idea. This was totally Ball's idea. I watched Buffy as a fan and enjoyed it as well as enjoying True Blood. Harris's books do not copy Buffy at all, they are completely different in idea and form than Buffy was.
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Ball again... Harris does not have that scene in her books, Bill never creates Jessica in the novels.
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Jasmine = Illyria = Glory = Cthulhu
But, seriously this Maryann plot line is very much like Jasmine on season 5 of Angel. Every time Michelle Forbes (who is amazing, I would have thought this part was written for her) sweeps towards the camera I keep expecting her to lift her arms and reveal cuts opening in her flesh and then immediately healing. Plus, all the orgy/removal-of-free-will stuff is in alignment with what Jasmine had going on. Still, fun season and good show. -
Except maybe when there's nudity? I enjoy the show but it's mostly forgettable. Nothing compares to BTVS although Supernatural is some damn fine television.
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Caught one of these. Ugh. Why is this popular? It's popular in the way DJ AM was popular.
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That can, you know, actually act. And keep their accents. Or was there some big plot point in Angel about how Fred suddenly lost her "Texas" accent in two episodes. And thank CHRIST not every character on the show is a "saracastic and wity" fuckwad. Fuck off Joss Whedon. Maybe Herc would like the show if Bon Temps went from a small town to a major city with it's own fucking airport and college campus like Sunnydale did over 7 seasons.
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nicccccce.
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For some reason I kind of glossed over season 5 of Buffy... I think I've seen most of the episodes, but may have missed some here or there. Angel... I own the DVD's and absolutely love that show to pieces. Glad to see some others in here referencing the Jasmine arc in comparison to the Maryanne stuff on True Blood.
Weirdly, my friend who put me on to True Blood absolutely refuses to watch Angel... dunno wtf his problem is, just being a little bitch I guess. The fucking guy will sit down and watch some of the shittiest of shit off Netflix, the SciFi channel, and other trash. Whatever, his loss.True Blood and Supernatural are the best two horror genre shows we've had since... Buffy and Angel. They definitely don't deserve to be shit on as much as they are by Herc. -
In it's day it was a barely average TB series no one knew about.
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Teen dramas e.g. Smallville, Supernatural, Heroes, etc. According to UK sources it started (and gets credited for) the whole teen genre of shows.
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True Blood is arguably not one of those shows. Irrespective of the fact that starting a trend rairly means remaining the best example of it.
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It's more popular and arguably better.
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Are still leading the pack of the best written and developed television that exists.
There is no denying their strength in characterization, humor, genre-subversion, dramatic arcs, amazingly clear moments full of bucket-loads of intention, metaphor, uh, acting, writing... basically Buffy and Angel have it all and then some. Most television isn't nearly as spirited and entertaining but also incredibly thoughtful and intelligent. I found so much resonance on both Buffy and Angel and still go back and watch episodes over and over.
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And Dr. Samuel Johnson's right about Olson Johnson being right.
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That will *totally* stir up the Whedon-haters.
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Aug 30, 2009 6:44:14 PM CDT
That was the finest exoample of authentic frontier gibberish
by lockesbrokenleg
And I am glad you children here today were here to experience that.
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I really really can't wait for the following seasons & all the "new blood-lines" they'll be dropping into the mix. The werewolves, the various other shifters, & the fairies is going to be nuts...can't wait to see if they hang mix Jason with the other species. Jason, Lafee, & Eric are the shit...Pam too. It just keeps on keepin on with each episode.
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Howard Johnson was right...
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You know, when I was a tiny lad I really enjoyed seeing Raquel Welch kick ass as a gunfighter trained by Robert Culp and armed by Christopher Lee in Hannie Caulder. Got pretty happy seeing Pam Grier give a Foxy Brown asskicking to the bad guys. Really enjoyed Diana Riggs' Emma Peel (and her leather jumpsuit) in the Avengers. Now that was back in the days of sonics and highscrapers, when if you saw a Claudia Jennings laying out bad guys you knew you weren't going to get another buttkicking heroine in the next thing you saw. So anyway, about twenty-five years later Joss Whedon made Buffy and all the AICN and Whedonite world acted like Joss Whedon had invented female cinematic/televisual empowerment. And it didn't bother me. Why? Because I liked Buffy, too. Herc, take a deep breath. Let it out slow. If you like True Blood, watch it. If you don't...don't. But everything builds on what came before. Let it go.
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"... of the best written and developed television that exists."
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cause the chicks in it where smoking hot omg. But TB has hot chicks and tits, so it wins, no contest. NO CONTEST, come on, where is your testosterone ffs, did you see the episodes with Lizzy???
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...we say Hallelujah. At its worst (season 5) the Wire was better than 90% of the shows ever aired. At its best (seasons 3&4) it lapped the field. But saying that Buffy was like a cartoon compared to, say, Lost is as much of an overstatement as saying Buffy and Angel are the best television that exists. For instance, I'd put seasons 2 and 3 of Buffy up against seasons 2 and 3 of Lost, in spite of Lost's infinitely better cast and production values. (And yes, I know those are the match-ups most favorable to Buffy).
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...I like Lost. A lot. Liked Buffy a lot too. But if you say Seasons 2 and 3 of Lost or seasons 6 and 7 of Buffy are best absolutely ignored (at least after the musical in season 6) the fans of those shows react like antibodies. True Blood I don't like so much, at least so far, though I think season two has been a big improvement over season one. Except no Lizzy Caplan.
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...of Lost weren't great. Not should be ignored. Lizzy Caplan comment stands as is.
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Who watched that show other than female gothic gorillas and fruits? Get real.
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Seriously, there are straight guys who watched Buffy and Angel? Really? But yeah, TB is about eighty million times better than those shows even without Anna's glorious ta-tas in the equation.
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MaryAnn's idiot minions. The nadir was Jason pretending to be He Who Is To Come and them believing him. No, wait, earlier in the ep when he held a nail gun to Arlene's head and her leader of the idiots boyfriend backed down. If he was so zapped by MaryAnn he would not have given a rats ass about Arlene getting nailed! So that was the nadir. I tried to justify it by saying he is nuts when not possessed and so when he is he is rational; but then that doesn't explain any of his other MaryAnn influenced actions. So it was just plain stupid. Lazy writers. BTW, "Buffy" sucked in it's later seasons. It was great through season 3, but lost it when Buffy wnet to college. Oh sure, a good ep here and there, and season 5's "The Body" was indeed one of the shows finest (but it does not stand alone well... to appreciate it, you have to know who the characters are to each other, especially Anya). The singing ep was a novelty, period. As a scary thrilling show, it lost it all forever when Noxon took over for season 6 and drove whatever was left of the show into the ground (Buffy 'freaked' and ended up in a mental hospital when she first saw a vamp?? Uh, sure Marti... what a crock of shit)!
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I will not waste my time defending any of the absolutely unwatchable season six of Buffy. However, you are completely wrong about why Buffy was in a mental hospital. She was in the hospital as much as Benjamin Sisko on DS9 was in the 20th Century. That's really the best way to explain it.
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Wow, written by Alan Ball himself and directed by Daniel Minahan (who did "Nothing But the Blood" and "Sparks Fly Out")and that was hands down the worst episode of True Blood I have seen to date.
I hated the Queen's casting, didn't buy LaFayette's fear of guns, and didn't like any of the Maenad's minions bullshit. I have loved every episode up till now, and though I didn't hate the script, I hated the direction. Lost a lot of faith on that one. Not Heroes loss of faith level, but more like second half, season two of Twin Peaks loss of faith. -
It's so simple yet very entertaining and addicting...
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had an amazing resonance among my circle of friends. I downloaded the entire first season and watched it all within a couple of nights. At this point I was the only person to have even heard of True Blood. Showed it to a friend of mine, a week later EVERYBODY had seen it, readily addicted and awaiting season two. It was strange, I'm really the only sci-fi/fantasy fan out of the lot of them, could never get any of them (both sexes included) to go anywhere near Buffy/Angel/BSG etc. They only ever watch stuff like Weeds or HIMYM - weird that they were all so attracted to True Blood.
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True Blood is wayyy Better than Buffy ever was or could be, It's Kind of Ridiculous that you would reference one of Buffy's weakest Seasons in hopes of supporting your claim that TB is Ripping off Buffy. Gloria was one of the dumbiest things about buffy and that Chick that played Gloria could'nt act to Save her life which is true of most of the Buffy Cast, which is Probably why none of the cast are working Cept for Willow and Angel and there both on Abortions disguised as Sitcoms, so i don't really count that as working. True Blood is so much better,than anything Joss Weadon has ever done and Probably will do, Your constant dick sucking of MR Weadon Makes me hate that Dude, True Blood Is Better, Get over it! Perhaps if HBO started sending you more swag you'd have nicer things to say, So yeah you SUCK!
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I'm just sayin.
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I watched the TB season one DVDs with my 66 year old mother and she couldn't wait for the next episode. She even subscribed to HBO for it (and Madmen). Buffy? Never happened for her.
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I've been going through my Buffy collection the last few weeks. Having only watched it sporadically on TV and parts of DVD sets, it was refreshing to sit down and watch a nice chunk of episodes consecutively.
Season 1 was actually quite good, I didn't think the show would've found its feet so fast, and having only half the length of a regular season kept the story arc tight. Season 2 was ok, but the Angelus thing seemed more childish than I remembered or at least compared to later episodes of Angel. Of course, it was still mired in teenage metaphors - "you sleep with a guy and he turns into a monster" - at that point. But it seemed obvious they were trying to show how evil he was supposed to be without killing off any important characters (nobody cared about the computing teacher!). The biggest kick I got from the earlier seasons was seeing minor characters being introduced (Cordelia, Spike, Johnathon etc.) and knowing the impact they would have on later seasons (both Buffy & Angel), it was a bit like being a soothsayer!
Season 3 was great, as most agree. Faith, of course. And the story arc with the Mayor was slow-burned to perfection. Season 4 I'm still downloading, but from what I remember it wasn't one of my favourites. Season 5 was ok, having a god as a villain was interesting, and they added enough twists and explanations to account for why Glory didn't just tear Sunnydale apart to look for the Key. Loved the dig at soap opera cliches by adding a new character without any explanation (or so we thought at first!).
I don't understand why seasons 6 & 7 are so derided by fans. Yes, the average laugh count per episode did drop (although a few episodes were laugh-out-loud funnier than any previous episodes) - but it also lost most of the childishness that held back the previous seasons (or at least when watching it now). And, at least to me, the story arcs seemed tighter, the writing a little bit sharper and more consistent. Most of my favourite episodes are in the last two seasons.
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I don't know anyone who even remotely knows about it.
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Couldn't agree more, love the show, seriously let down by that episode, and Evan Rachel Wood was TERRIBLE!
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This season has been one pretty big bore with the exception of the Hoyt/Jessica storyline.
The religious cult plot sucked and we never saw the cult wife naked. Boring. It also ended terribly, though the suicide bombing briefly brought some excitement, it was just kind of dropped as a subplot.
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"This is an oral history of the zombie war!" I lol'd. I *JUST* finished 'World War Z' last week. Best book I've read since High-School. Alan Ball must have read it before writing that episode and had to include that line.
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I'm not saying it is, but according to the UK TV industry (documentary on the "Best TV Ending's ever!"). If Whedon didn't do Buffy. We would never have shows which tells the Teens P.O.V, etc, etc.
So Buffy at the time was good in it's day, but compared to True Blood. I heard it's more Adult Vampire stories. Why compare at all?
It sounds like they may both tell Vampire stories, but they're aiming at different Demographics.
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Ya, I laughed at that too.
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Aug 31, 2009 6:14:20 AM CDT
great, another TB talkback that decends into a fight about Buffy
by magic rat
who gives a crap about that show, it's been off the air since - what, Clinton was president?
True Blood is awesome, much better than I remember Buffy being whenever I used to watch it.
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Tara coming back to get Eggs and then maryann shaking, Tara mocking her that it has no effect, then Maryann literally beating the blackness back into her. Awesome.
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getting tied of the cult of boredom. shame 2/3rds of this season has been wasted on the stupid cult plot. rest of the season has been far more interesting. just not much of the good stuff this season, its all about the maryann silliness.
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I was kinda disappointed with last night's as well. It's weird because I would probably brush this off as one of those episodes where they are clearly just trying to build to the finale. It does, however, scare me that it seems like they have so much to do in the next episode. I'd like to see the Maryann storyline resolved, but at this point I'm not so sure if that's possible. Loved Sookie telling Tara she's being a fucking idiot.
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I loved how her character was stuck in a different era. It was quite amuzing. Playing Yahtzee and having the time of her life, dressing in 1920s garb and reading VERY old Vogue magazines.
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What are you all fucking 12 year olds? THe shit sucked! OH MY GOD, buffy was fucking puerile garbage.
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They showed nothing about what is going to happen in the season finale. I wonder if the queen will have an reoccurring role? Eric seems to be everywhere now. HE CAN FLY? They better not kill of Sam. Bring on the Lycans.
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Aside from Hercs pathetic bitching they are two different shows with almost nothing alike on two different networks. Take a chill pill.
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Eric is becoming the reason to watch True Blood. His amusement with the children was great, it displayed his total detachment from humanity. The reveal that Eric can fly makes me wonder what other powers he has and what could Godric do?
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My wife's read all the books and liked them a lot. Being the lazy guy I am, I've only gotten thru the first two. Aside from that "Hush" episode, I never watched Buffy. When did you ever get to see Sarah Michelle Gellar's breasts? I rest my case.
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thanks, i also liked the dallas storyline. just not the last dallas stuff when godric was gonna kill himself. all the stuff previous i loved. especially the revenend's super hot wife.
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Have season one and two of True Blood followed books one and two? I bought the book series for my wife who's addicted, and I was curious if they are the same stories, or if plot lines from the other books have already made their way into the TV series. Has a lot been changed characterwise, and how are the books in general?
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...the series is significantly different, though not always in ways that are worse than the books. Lafayette was the body in the car at the end of season one, for instance. The Maenad plot was extremely different, both in terms of motivations and how it played out. Godric was not Eric's maker and Godric wanted to die because he was tired of killing children (he fed off children exclusively in the books). The Queen of New Orleans was rather different, and it will be interesting to see how they fit her "special vampire power" (because in the books each vampire has a unique special vampire ability--sheesh) into the series, because it was empathy based and Rachel Evan Wood's queen, with her Dorothy Parker chic, doesn't seem a good match for that. Plenty of other things, too. On the whole I'm not going to say the series is better or worse than the books, but they are very different.
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Doesn't the "special power" a vampire might manifest come with age? Pam and Bill being roughly contemporaries don't seem to have any other special powers beyond being badasses in the book. While Eric, Sophie and some others discussed can do things like fly or tie thier children to them forever. One of the complaints I have with the TV version of TB is how they have sort of shafted Pam so far and made her into a bitchy lazy asshole.I'm hoping they bring Amelia into the story then we can get some hot lezbo action with her and Pam.
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...as far as I know neither Bill nor Pam have special powers, so either it's a thing that reveals itself with age or I overstated when I said they all had one. And yeah, the Pam thing is unfortunate, because she is a much better character in the books. She should be young and fresh-faced, which would make her attitudes about things much more fun. On the other hand, Tara is barely in the books and is pretty much a completely different character than on the show. For me, anyway, it's a mixed bag on the changes they've made.
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I thought it was pretty cool seeing Eric take off Neo style, I wasn't expecting that.
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Oh, yeah...from X-MEN comics and DOCTOR WHO. * Shrugs *
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Buffy's effects don't hold up so if you're just watching a clip, especially an effects driven one, you're not going to understand why we love it. I"m really enjoying True Blood but I will admit, I do often get deja vu watching it particularily the Sookie/Bill/Eric triangle which is VERY similar to the Buffy/Angel/Spike triangle. Give credit where credit is due. True Blood is a fun, gothic romp. Buffy was a much deeper, darker inspection on what it means to be a leader.
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Left_Hand_Path: Yeah last night ep did leave me wondering what was wrong with the elements of the show. Was it badly written, badly directed, just plain boring?? The Queen did nothing for me; just another self involved vampire keeping itself amused after too many lifetimes. Hopefully the finale will be more watchable. clupula: I recall the Sisko episodes of DS9 but honestly cannot recall how it ended up. Was he nuts or was he having wormhole inspired dreams. Far as I can tell he was the commander of the station in 'real life' and not a patient in a mental hospital. Buffy's revelation to Willow threw out tons of previously established storyline canon from the movie on through the flashbacks where Angel saw her before she moved to Sunnydale. No visits to the loony bin were mentioned or shown.
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There was no love triangle in the book. Dracula came to England solely to find new blood. That he happened to bite and start to turn Mina Harker was unrelated to her husband having been the real estate agent. I've read the novel a dozen times in my life and never picked up on that being anything but a story device to keep the characters centralized. The romance came later in the movies; especially Coppola's wrongly named "Bram Stoker's Dracula". More like "Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula".
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they had some ap lingerie in trueblood. all you hollywood types, get your lingerie from the modern courtesan if you actually want classy.
odd to see so many vamp shows on tv, the premier of those at the moment being true blood. I cannot for the life of me figure out why doesnt someone give joss a bag load of money to develop a show in the buffyverse, with its already built in fanbase.And herc, let it go man, let it go. and watch supernatural -
It's as if the gravitas and heartbreak of the Godric episodes never existed. What kind of crack is Ball smoking, anyway. WHEDONCRACK! Jesus H. Christ, we GET IT: Bill is Angel and Eric is Spike! And Jason is Xander, and Maryann is the Big Bad. Sookie, however, is NOT Buffy (she has a looooonnnggg way to go before she even touches that status). This whole episode proves that the show has gone round the bend in a big way. Feh. Thank God for Mad Men.
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Sep 01, 2009 12:00:56 AM CDT
The unsung hero actor of this show is the fat naked dude
by quin the eskimo
dancing around the maypole thing while Sookie and Lafeyette wached from the woods. Props man.
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You can't compare Buffy to True Blood. Maybe Buffy wasn't your style, but it was a very intelligently written show. It was a show where there was no throw away dialogue. Someone is going to say something about the campiness of some of the dialogue, but that goes back to my first comment about it not being your style. True Blood is an entertaining show. But it is not great television. Ball did great TV with Six Feet Under, and he started to do it with the first season of True Blood. It seems like he sacrificed a lot of intelligence to make the second season more attractive to a larger audience. The metaphors of the first season were strong, but this season has no metaphor. It's all about blood and sex. And, frankly, for most of America that's enough to make a huge hit. If Ball had kept it as smart as the first season it would have been a great show. As it is, it's very entertaining, but it won't stand any kind of test of time because it has basically devolved into an acceptable form of main stream pornography.
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You can't compare them simply because they might have vampires, but they are no way the same genre of television. True Blood is a shock the audience premium cable show about sex and blood and fun, and Buffy was intended to be a show about teenage life that happened to have vampires. They are nothing alike, despite Herc's attempts to connect them.
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Yes, I know she was in The Wrestler and I hated her in that, too. Everything is one note with her. She's like the chick who got all the leads in her high school plays and moved right to Hollywood and got by on her looks. The fact that she was Marilyn Manson's cokewhore makes me wanna throw up. I agree with Herc- I miss Godric. The Queen is supposed to be older and more powerful than Godric but she seems lesser than Bill.
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I second that of what you said, I totally agree.
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I enjoy TB whenever the focus is on characters other than Sookie. She ruins the show whenever she opens her mouth. Why is her character such a selfish bitch? She needs to shut up and be more naked.
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*saving grace. (damn iPhone keyboard)
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While this has been a much better season than the first, it's been flagging a bit since Godric died (that was a waste). The Maryanne plotline was good at first, but it dragged out way too long. Jason, while never the rocket scientist, seems to have been hit even harder by the stupid stick this season. So much for acknowledging his stupidity and trying to not be so impulsive (that lasted all of three seconds). I don't know, I suppose as I'm starting to like the show more, I'm getting more critical of it too.
As for Buffy, if you're complaining about the metaphors, then you never got the show. EVERYTHING about the show was steeped in metaphor. That was the point. It was also easily the best action show and (live action) comedy on TV. It seems to have become fashionable to hate on it now (kind of reminds me of B5 in that way), but it had very few detractors at the time. Although they're not really comparable, I'd definitely put the second season of Buffy over the second season of TB. The story was far richer. TB is still a bit anemic for me, but I'm looking forward to the next season. -
Yep. Whedon and his fucking shows suck bro. You need help.
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. . .but its gotten kind of crappy since they left Dallas. Speaking of which, since they killed off Godric, I think it would have been cool if they'd made him a little kid, like 10 years old or something. Here's hoping the MaryAnne story is wrapped up in TWO (WTF?) weeks. Two weeks and they can't even give us a 2 hour finale or something. Better be good. Didn't care for E.R.Wood's performance. Boring. And could they be wasting Jessica any more? She's funny and smokin' hot. They also need to tone down the Jason humor. 90% of it falls flat.
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...a waste of effort. Same genre, but vastly different shows. Seasons 1 & 2 of Buffy were fairly weak. Go back and watch and then consider TB is at the end of Season 2 with a much shorter number of episodes. Assuming a Season 3 and 4 for TB, I think the show will be pretty decent. Right now, it's a little uneven, but entertaining and shows potential. All that said, I liked Angel a lot more than Buffy. The last episode was one of the best things I've EVER seen on broadcast TV, period.
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Everyone on this show, besides Jason Stackhouse and Eric, are some of the worst actors working on television. Anna Paquin is about as convincing as a wooden shoe. Bill used to be cool, but now hes just a cheesy soap opera acting bitch. LaFayette is also pretty cool I guess, but everyone else sucks. My girlfriend doesnt watch the show, but I put on like ten minutes, and she was literally laughing at everyone on screen, Evan Rachel Wood the most. She was fucking terrible. I don't know what is worse about True Blood, the acting or the dialogue itself. At least its fun on a good week, I guess. Not much else.
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Thank you Herc. Its nice to know I am not the only one who saw the Mary Ann/Glory connection.
..Now if I only coulda won that Heroes DVD. Rats...
How about a future DVD Giveaway. True Blood Season Two packaged with Buffy Season Five....
Sookie has an unknown sister? Jason is actualy an energy being??
Lafeyette and Bill will move to Los Angeles to fight a group of Demon lawyers?? Hopefuly Sam will hook up with some Red headed cutie who is a witch!! -
and zombies! Invent a new fukking monster!
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