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ABC Shuts Down V For Two Weeks!!
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ABC confirmed Thursday thewrap’s Wednesday report that the network is halting production on its remake of the 1980s lizard-Nazi extraterrestrial miniseries “V” for two weeks. It won’t affect the show’s Nov. 3 premiere date.
Said the network:
“We will take advantage of our November premiere to maximize creative opportunities and deliver the audience the best show possible.”
Which I take to mean, “Kindly rewrite these scripts so we’re not stuck with another crappy one-season sci-fi remake like ‘Night Stalker’ or ‘Life On Mars.’”
The “V” pilot was written by “The 4400” creator Scott Peters. Peters left USA’s “4400” early in its run, after former “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine” showrunner Ira Behr was brought in as “4400’s” showrunner.
A similar chain of events may be unfolding at “V,” with former “Angel” showrunner Jeffrey Bell hired in June to take over as “V’s” showrunner.
Bell’s track record is spotty as best. I adored the “Angel” series finale he directed and co-wrote with Joss Whedon, but hated his work on the fourth and fifth seasons of J.J. Abrams’ “Alias.” After “Alias” Bell went on to ABC’s horrible “Groundhog Day” riff “Day Break” and CBS’ bland murder-of-the-week mystery series “Harper’s Island.”
My reaction to Peters’ “V” pilot, which screened last month at Comic-Con and has since been subject to reshoots:
The production design on the alien ships is ginchy, but the humans’ reactions to these insanely passive-aggressive extraterrestrials struck me as dopey.
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Not looking good is it?
Then again, not really bothered about this one -
Wonder if it spells doom for the series, or if it's just what it needs to start off what could be a compelling and topical sci-fi story proper.
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Fuck, I'd recast, too.
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Obviously this is a resistance ploy to starve out the Visitors.
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I don't think it will last as a series.
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...and only half the country seems to have the capacity/willingness to notice.
When the civil war goes down, i'm with Beck and Limbaugh. -
...and only half the country seems to have the capacity/willingness to notice.
When the civil war goes down, i'm with Beck and Limbaugh. -
So batshit he had to say it twice.
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Well, it does have Morena "hot as hell but can't act for shit just look at me in Stargate" Baccarin in a main role.
And is that the dude from 4400 as well?
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When VH1's I scene.
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You wanna know what the best thing about V was? When VH1's I Love the 80's featured a seqment on the series and showed a clip of the birthin' scene and Donal Logue was all like "I'm a LI-ZARD!"
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Well done ABC you've fucked up again. Why didn't you just hire Kenneth Johnson, considering he made this franchise a hit to begin with.
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I loved Jane Austin's tales of the $million Bionic Woman.
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original series please! whats so great about Lost and Fringe are that they are new ideas with fun new stories and characters. we don't know what to expect. a remake, no matter how good it is, will always be compared to the one before it. That's why BBC's Life on Mars its better than ABC's we already know what happens, why even attempt to re do it? just buy the rights to show it in the states, why dont you!? fools.
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...is what they should have greenlit from the beginning. We want Mike Donovan and Juliet Parrish. More importantly, the show needs Kenneth Johnson. I saw the new "V" pilot at Comic-Con, and it's vastly inferior to the original; the novel of The Second Generation is on the same level as the original miniseries. Do it now, before the actors are too old. Please.
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Aug 28, 2009 3:11:12 AM CDT
I hope they're removing the scenes where they eat rats
by dannyglovers_dickblo0d
That was way too gross for me.
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Is it possible to get Lindeoff over for some consultation?
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Way to try and gravy train on somebody else's name pussy.
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I can't tell if ginchy is good or bad, even from context. Also, trying to single out an episode of alias or a block of episodes of alias as "worse" is futile. It's like the show gets worse every time you watch it.
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Quick, Juliet, run!And this "confirmed exclusively to me" bullshit that all these idiot TV gossip columnists use has got to stop.
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Get your act together.
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The trailer is awesome and most of the real critics liked the V pilot very much ...and since when did Day Break or Life on Mars US suck harder than Dollhouse? (which by the way was shut down early too).
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... hinkey? Where's Tommy Lee Jones when you need him?
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^^^ It rocked.
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The show was not "good" by any means, but it was better than most shit that is aired in the summer and was at lest enjoyable, like some Micahel Bay movies....lol
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But that's hardly news, is it?
Didn't the original V almost bankrupt the shield? (Warner Brothers) I seem to remember Joe Strazcynski saying something to that effect. -
Aug 28, 2009 7:14:39 AM CDT
Night Stalker was good; too bad they didn't film...
by stereotypical evil archer
Darin Morgan's script, he was the best writer on The X-Files and Millennium. Funny clever stuff.
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I bet the producers saw the widespread appeal of Juliet after the season 5 finale and wrote her more scenes for season 6 than than they were going to before. The V and Lost people reportedly get along well so I think that's it. It makes business sense too, if Mitchell gets more popular from being on Lost more, it might spillover to help V.
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Aug 28, 2009 7:42:07 AM CDT
U.S. LIFE ON MARS could've been better, but it was NOT "crappy"
by spyguy
Seriously, bro, what is this bug up your ass about LIFE ON MARS? It wasn't nearly as terrible as the BIONIC WOMAN remake and dancing on its grave every so often is only going to hurt your credibility.
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From the context I take it to be positive-- any help?
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this is actually a fairly standard operating procedure for new shows.
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They'll want a bailout.
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ABC should have tried to get Kenneth Johnson onboard, even if it was just as an advisory role.
But if I were holding the purse strings, I'd have thrown money and given complete creative control to him to adapt his Second Generation novel.
The original V mini-series was a landmark event when it was first broadcast in the 80s and even though TV has moved on since then, with a big enough budget, execs with a decent set of balls, some heavyweight actors "V" has the potential to kick some muthafuckin' ASS!
Christ, I can almost see the teaser trailers and Internet viral campaign now ...
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Idol, I was thinking that too, shutting down production for 2 weeks on "V" right as "LOST" is starting production...sounds like they want Juliet back for the first or second episode.
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why do they try and make everything a full series that will run for years right from the start. why didnt they make a nice self-contained 6 episode V mini with an actual creative vision and story behind it. if its a hit, make a series - but when they spend this much on a series its gotta do ridiculously well to make money and so is doomed to fail..
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How dare you mention Beck's name before Limbaugh. Blasphemy.
Your Lord, Limbaugh, is an a angry god and he will smite you. -
Where is Mark..... sorry Marc Singer when you need him?
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These and other philosophical questions were raised by the award-winning, ground-breaking, visionary series that was the original V
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Aug 28, 2009 9:14:53 AM CDT
The aliens now want to steal our pop stars, instead of H2O
by darfurontherocks2
And it is up to a spunky group of teens to stop them...
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But besides that, I hope they don't screw up V!
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Way to "never forget" Hollywood.
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what happens when they run out of stuff to remake?
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...what is the deal with the 4400 Guy's love affair with the Department of Homeland Security?
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F this S.
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when Ironside left. Unless they have someone who can go toe to toe with him, this is doomed.
The original sucked because none of it made sense. Alien gives birth but still has human suit on? People having sex with the aliens and not noticing that they have scales and fangs? Alien women swooning after an alien in a good looking human outfit? Willy- the dumb one who looked like Robert Englund while all the others were good looking?Unaccented English?
What a pile of shit. Anything is better than that.
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"Dollhouse was closed for two weeks too!"
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ok, so only and tags work. how lame.
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The original V was terrible and this one will be no better and probably worse considering TV now ah days. Besides, we all ready know the story. The aliens are reptiles that look like humans and want to eat us all for lunch. They are helped by bad humans who think they can be rich and powerful by helping the aliens get what they want. This should be on the CW network or SyFY channel and not ABC
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I really don't care about the rest of the movie.
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Love the original V - anyone remember what an event it was when it was first released..? It was so cool and still stands up well, but was something that was actually well suited to a modern remake. Now if only HBO had taken it on instead.........
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Bionic Woman and Knight Rider, on the other hand....
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The American LIFE ON MARS has a different ending, though, something that had been announced from the start. Only the premise and some of the character names were the same. Whether you like the U.S. ending is a different matter; I thought it was decent, but I watched the show for its period police work, not so much for the mystery.
As for Herc's rather inexplicable hatred of LIFE ON MARS and DAY BREAK (both of which were fairly entertaining genre shows, as far as I'm concerned), well... this is the guy who does his best to ignore SUPERNATURAL, but never fails to post about the retarded grand-children of Roman gladiatorial games that are commonly known as "reality shows." -
is on its last season, ABC is going to give it some major support!
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What visitor gave birth with a suit on? I don't remember that. All I recall is the human young woman giving birth to a full visitor baby and a half-breed.
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Could Herc be a contrarian for no other reason than to be a contrarian? Naaaahhhh
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Cool, groovy, awesome, kick-ass, rockin'.
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pilot last year? What happened? I watched every episode and did not see a major decline in the quality of the show. If anything, I enjoyed it more as it went on.
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I really hope this is not a bad sign of things to come. I do have to admit that after seeing the Pilot, the things that bugged me were the clapping at the invasion and the space ships. They should have kept it simple. I also hope they bring back some of the original cast members. At least Marc and Jane.
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When V finally airs, I'm sure there will be a TB and I can be informed as to what was added/deleted/changed.
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for sexy or cool. It's nice that I literally need a dictionary to understand Herc. How ginchy is this skein, Herc? Is its antepenultimate episode masterminded by a funnybook writer?
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That series was bad, bad, bad, until the 5th season, when Joss came in and made it good.
Hardcore Whedonites will defend it but no sane people.
So if this is the guy responsible for Angel, then I just lost a lot of hope for V. -
Donovan was DA MAN!
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So you want to be on the losing side, is that it?
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"Life on Mars was NOT a 'crappy' show, it was a delight!
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whats the betting that vince gets caught up in a sex tape scandal with an underage girl?
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That show had its charm. I particularly liked the episode where he got to sleep with his old babysitter and then had to meet his younger self. I never saw the last episode, but my friend told me about it and it sounds kinda weak, but how else could you end it? He really time travelled? (Actually, I probably would have liked that better.) But, Herc's taste does not run parallel to mine, so whatever.
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Hilarious!
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STARTED OUT GOOD.But me milady only got to episode 3 and got tired of staying up till 11:00pm(on a goddamn wednesday as I recall).LOVED the cast, but we BOTH knew that although we loved it, it was gonna get canned.
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I'm really not a major fan of Whedon, personally. But there was a lot of good stuff in Angel season 2, and the early season 3. The shows nadir was during it's brief "David Simkins" period. That man is like the King Midas of crap.
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"That series was bad, bad, bad, until the 5th season, when Joss came in and made it good. Hardcore Whedonites will defend it..."Wouldn't the "hardcore Whedonites" do the exact opposite; claim the series was crap until Whedon came in to "save it"? Wouldn't saying "the only time the show was good was when Whedon himself was directly involved" be the mantra of a Hardcore Whedonite?
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Sh*tty remake of a sh*tty TV series going down!
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Well, they tried, but Firefly was canceled. Sorry.
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is described by some as if it's a masterpiece. Well, I've been watching the first season recently, and while the pilot and a couple of subsequent episodes are very entertaining, I've found that it quickly gets tedious. It just doesn't exploit the premise that someone with 21st century knowledge of past events and technology is there in 1973. Most of the time, only the differences in police morality and procedures are highlighted, which gets pretty old after 6 or 7 episodes. As for the "cases" themselves, they're mostly tiresome. So yeah, some of it is good, but I'll be skipping the 2nd season and will only bother with the final episode.
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It's going to be fun watching Jeremy Douchebag Piven struggling with his crack addiction in a decade. Can't wait for the VH1 premiere.
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several scenes on the Angel final.
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I am not seeing the need to remake "V." The show had its moments in the 80s. Not sure that it is a story that needs retelling.
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Aug 28, 2009 7:05:42 PM CDT
Dear Elizabeth Mitchell, if you need somewhere to vacation for t
by 3d-man
my house is available. Call me, babe.
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Writers and network execs try to outwit and outlast each other to the death. We need this.
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Jerry Ferrara (Turtle) would try and contact Obama if 'Entourage' got pulled. What a desperate douche. Keep fucking Jamie Lynn you undeserved little prick, and make way for fresh television trying to pull through.
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just keep that stupid fuck that killed Knight Rider away from it
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But I would never call it must see television. To tell you the truth I hated it when it started and then with each passing episode I got into it. The cast were young slackers to whom I was happy to say good riddence. But then each of them managed to have a moment of awesomeness that redeemed them before they expired. And the killer was so chilling and evil after its revelation. So it had its moments.
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His claim to fame Party of Five was always accused of weak viewership, he went on to Everwood and it died, he was in that lame as hell LOST-esque thing The Nine, and now V is another stinker? Dude, get a better advisor or something. I'm real sorry to read that it's already in trouble. I had issues with the 4400, far too many characters would drop out of that show (and sometimes come back, not that it made them any more consistent). I would not hope for that kind of lack of cohesion on another epic-scale sci-fi show. This is not a genre that can be written like a lazy evening soap opera. You can try, but you will lose most viewers. Continuity is important, and consistent characterization matters. This is something that wasn't always there for Alias, or even for Angel (though like others, I loved the last season). Hope they don't blow this.
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Have you guys seen their schedule lately? (shudder)
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I somehow ended up (by playing internet six degrees) reading a mini biography of the Rothschilds, after somehow learning that Hitler was the bastard grandchild of one of the Rothschilds. It was surprisingly devoid of any diatribes about Illuminati or world ruling agendas so I decided to take a rare opportunity and read some actual *facts* about these people. About 6 paragraphs into the very thorough and unbiased biography, the author dropped the 'reptilian DNA' bomb and it immediately went to hell.
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CBS thought they had a massive hit on their hands, but they refused to stick it to a same night, they reran it to death, and you never knew when a new episode was going to come on.
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it was not all that... there was still plenty of ordinary "procedural" cop show drama going on there- but at least it had the always good John Simm and the most excellent Philip Glenister going for it...
as for the V remake, you know how some projects, you just know from the get-go - EVERYTHING you hear about it just sounds all wrong - it was never gonna work (T4 anyone?)
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...on True Blood.
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Aug 29, 2009 11:03:49 AM CDT
The real reason V was shut down was just discovered.
by mike allegretto
http://www.mindpulse.com/users/lizlady/
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It's an attempt by the WB to screw Ken Johnson out of royalties for the new V by claiming the new V is an original work and not a remake of his mini-series!
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we will just start reremaking it all over again.
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if Limbaugh and Beck were on your side in a war, prepare yourself to be fighting on the front lines while they sit safely back in their bunker broadcasting you inspirational directives. That's how they roll.
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...and so would Obama and everyone else who isn't actually fighting. So what's your point? Or are you just here to troll your political views?
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...until Journeyman gets revived with a 100-episode upfront committment, or Rob Thomas is made Emperor of all things Television. Just sayin'...
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...have all the characters wear Guy Fawkes masks and black capes, and have the aliens blow up the British Parliament building.
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