Aug. 27, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST
I have total faith in Patton
Aug. 27, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST
Aug. 27, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
Aug. 27, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST
though we all appreciate the kind words toward us talkbackers... fagot... all kidding aside, i'm really looking forward to BIG FAN, love Patton and loved The Wrestler.
Aug. 27, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST
by The InSneider
Looking forward to seeing Big Fan. Siegel is a hell of a writer.
Aug. 27, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST
I want you to inseminate my girlfriend.
Aug. 27, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST
by I am_NOTREAL
I wonder how those comments about TBers will go down. I'm not as plugged in on Patton Oswalt's career as some, but I laughed my ass off over his bit on Cirque DeSoleil.
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST
Of watching Patton on anything else except his special. Because if you caught him on Letterman or something else he was on, he pretty much did his whole special.
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST
write a review of big fan?
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST
Is that neither of them have seen The Hammer.
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST
He always KILLS at the Comedy Central roasts.
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST
The Adam Carolla movie? Huh. Totally wrote that off when it got dumped in '08, but the reviews make it sound worthwhile. Thanks for the recommendation!
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST
Patton's film knowledge is awesome. I'm in awe. I must admit to my own addiction of regular New Beverly visits...
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST
...we're all loser nerds with a lot of knowledge about inconsequential things. But he's actually got talent and he went out and DID something with it. Kudos to him.
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST
Yes. The movie totally looks like it was going to be crap. But its actually a really good funny movie, with a decent hint of romance to it. Carolla was on a bunch of talk shows promoting it and he said that he would go to screenings and say that if you REALLY didn't enjoy the movie that he would refund your ticket.
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
And I have to wonder if he currently has an active account on AICN...
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Ha! You're on.
Aug. 27, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST
Damnit. Maybe the next medium after DVD's will allow Dante to have this available to everyone.
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST
I only eat Count Chocula, so that shows how much YOU know, assclown!
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST
And I'd love it if Patton is Media Messiah.
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST
by The Garbage Man
As much as I would love that, I don't think it's physically possible for anyone to consistently dumb themselves down to that level for so long. No, I'm afraid the one we've got is the genuine article.
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST
he looks like a buddy of mine which makes it even funnier. Apparently, he's gonna act in movies now. Nice. About time an entertainer who isn't a rap star tries a film career.
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST
... Ed also was the producer of THE CROW.
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST
I love the NY Giants and I love movies and The Wrestler wa sthe bets film of last year so I cannot wait for this movie to come out.
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST
And I sounded like a moron. Sigh...
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST
why does it seem like certain tb'ers get the blackbar for the most remedial questions.
Aug. 27, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST
Seriously. I'm sure there are some, but I personally am married man with kids who is just a lifelong fan of movies...I do dwell in a basement though because that's where my office is!
Aug. 27, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST
Aug. 27, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST
then he's not talking to you, is he? <P> I know I don't get pissed at people who talk about pasty, fat, virginal nerds sipping from a Super Big Gulp from the confines of their mom's basement. It doesn't apply to me. <P> I live in the attic.
Aug. 27, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST
Jeez. God, can't I get any privacy around here. ...What? Yes, I'd like some Cheezy Poofs, but later, okay?!
Aug. 27, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST
Need to watch Sex and Death 101. Thats a funny ass movie no one saw.
Aug. 27, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST
Aug. 27, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST
I access this site from an under sea laboratory with Aquaman. He's asleep and I just sprinkled cut off pubes into his face. Pretty rowdy down here sometimes. Fuck basement dwelling.
Aug. 27, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST
http://tinyurl.com/c9s5hh <P> My brother is a Giants fan, and I put this up on his face book and said. There will always be next year. He conceded, saying that I had got him because he couldn't say anything back.
Aug. 27, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST
This is for your older folks with kids. Whats gonna happen when you find out your son (or daughter) is on this site. As a Talkbacker and you are too. Or vice versa. WEIRD!
Aug. 27, 2009, 5 p.m. CST
Aug. 27, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST
doesn't matter the man's style out here as long as he's got the dollars to back it up.
Aug. 27, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST
do you consider yourself a basement dweller?
Aug. 27, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST
A few things happened to him in the last few years - he found this girl who turned him to a puddle of goo (check out youtube - there is a video of him prattling on about it; warning, may induce cringe) then big fan and the baby and, natch, ditching booze and weed. Sorry, but after his comedy show the other night, I really miss the old Patton. Much of the material has been out there for awhile (exercise bike audition) and the new stuff just wasn't up to par with his stuff from werewolves (a truly brilliant album). As a married guy, I realize this is to be expected, but it remains a little sad. Also sad is the fact that Patton doesn't update his blog as frequently or with the same zeal. I've read the whole thing and even when he was going on about something about which I did not care, I always enjoyed reading what he had to say. I'll see Big Fan and I imagine I'll enjoy it, but I'd really rather see Patton writing comedy, taking comedic roles and doing stand up. Also, Patton, if you read this - give Conan (and us) a break when you do his show; the ball and meth cracks weren't funny and you knew it wasn't the right audience. I love your more challenging material (e.g. going to a costco to get the morning after pill) but you know that isn't going to play on the tonight show.
Aug. 27, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST
Jesus. How embarrasing. No one laughed and the band interrupted him because he was going over the time limit. It was awkward.
Aug. 27, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST
Aug. 27, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST
Naw. I don't have a basement in the house I own.
Aug. 27, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST
All this baby and wife and happiness and clean living and serious acting is fine, but I want to see you DANCE, MONKEY!!!
Aug. 27, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST
you're right that the back and forth dialogue of the obsessed movie nerd is exactly what the talkbacks here SHOULD be all about. and they WERE, up until maybe 4 years ago. since then, they've devolved into this odd state that I refer to as the Bog of Eternal Stench (from Labyrinth). the few interesting characters, and comments are overshadowed by the blurping, farting gurgles of all the teenagers and idiots with NO knowledge of the history of cinema, NO real devotion or respect for the site, and all they live for is to spew endless negativity about EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN THING. even people that you would think HAVE to get a pass (Spike Jonze, Michel Gondry, etc.) are now "overrated"...it's truly sad. especially since a few years ago a movie like Big Fan would be a great lightning rod for geek energy, because of the apt and exciting parallels with old 70's Paul Schrader movies. but now, I'm afraid, it's going way over the heads of 90% of the people here.<p>I've been on AICN for 10 years, and I still love it. but seeing all the kids now that take the talkbacks for granted, like they're no different than the YouTube comments for the latest "kid breaks ankle skateboarding" video, it drinks my milkshake man, it really does. I remember when corresponding, commentating, etc. on the internet was actually rare enough that the people who took time to do it actually had a REASON to. they had something to SAY. now, you jsut need a Starbucks, a laptop, and a pile of tapioca between your ears.<p>anyway, burp on, kiddos. I'll be seeing this movie opening day, and I'm convincing 10 of my friends, too. this kind of movie has to be supported, or it's Bad Boys and Transformers sequels from here on out...
Aug. 27, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST
"Discussions on the internet are not what they used to be. Back in 2004 people had RESPECT!" Fuck you kindly, you idiot.
Aug. 27, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST
cracked me up. Much better than I expected.
Aug. 27, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST
by Onin Solstice
I like this stuff, he's got great material. But there's something about his face that calls out for a fist to strike it...
Aug. 27, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST
Got to say, I agree with you on some points. If only he took the tact of Louis C.K. who used his being a Dad to make his shit arguably MORE hardcore (dude basically hates all children and treats them as no less than mentally retarted). That being said, Patton still has an edge; he just needs it to be brought out of him. Listen to his appearences on Doug Benson's "I Love Movies" podcast; he's easily the best guest. He should also get back with the "Comedians of Comedy" since they seem to bring out the best of each other.
Aug. 27, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST
I would never punch Patton because I would hurt my soft white hands. However, had I not been born so frail, I would seek him out every day for the rest of my life just so I could plant one square on that that pudgy, impish, sneering, geek mug of his. And then I would steal his prozac. That is the secret behind big fan - save all that underdog, anti-hero nonsense for the new yorker - the movie is all about punching Patton in the face...really hard. I'll see it in theaters out of respect, but what I'm really looking forward to is watching the sweet brutality unfold over and over and over again in frame by delicious frame slo-mo on my home theater.
Aug. 27, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST
Agreed - he is a great guest on the Greatest Show as well. And it doesn't end there - he is a genuinely sweet and unaffected guy. I've always thought of him as David Cross' friendlier, nerdier kid brother (and I love Cross). His interview with the dude from Troll 2 (on youtube) is a great example of how affable and winning he can be. It would be nice to see him on the road again with the CoC crew. I'd like to see him recruit some new talent for that tour as well - get some guys like Swardson in the mix.
Aug. 27, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST
Amen. Perfectly fucking illustrated with dickless's comment after yours, too. I doubt anyone who is a recent visitor to the site could comprehend exactly how much more worthwhile talkback was, compared to the sad caricature it's become. You just can't go home again.
Aug. 27, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST
Yeah, the only thing is, the obsessed movie nerds have become industry tools - witness the pathetic "back and forth" on Avatar. Legions of witless fanboys denying the apparent in an inflamed chorus of onanistic indignation. Lame.
Aug. 27, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST
Actually, before Oswalt, I'd hit ebonic_plague. You can't go home again? Please, dude. I've been coming here for around a decade myself and the talkbacks are pretty much the same as they have ever been - you guys lamenting the way things once were are really experiencing the passing of your misspent youth. Drag your ass outside and meet a girl.
Aug. 27, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST
I'd put money down that the only punches you've ever thrown are of the virtual variety. You're right about one thing, though, I suppose if I went back and read some of your decade-old contributions to AICN, I'd recognize that asshats like you have always been polluting the place. And why go outside when your sister makes housecalls?
Aug. 27, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST
You said "it drinks my milkshake man." <p><p><p> Dude, you are such a fucking loser, and your ridiculous paean to the old days that never were! The talk back has always been a cess pool of immaturity and lack of taste, of which you are a perfect example! You've no taste, at all. While I agree that most talkbackers are morons, the problem lies in the fact that I lump you in with those morons. You're actually not stupid, you just have awful taste in films, which is a form of stupidity. <p><p><p> That said, Big Fan is awful. The first twenty minutes or so are okay, but the movie goes where it really shouldn't and makes it sci-fi. The third act, you could not give two shits what happens. Oswalt is not great, but he's not terrible in it, though he can't emote or really handle the more dramatic aspects of the film. Granted, the script is really bad, but a good actor could have elevated the film. Oswalt has the right look, but as I said, he can't really act when he goes outside himself. Bad film. Stay away from Big Fan, it is a true mess and nowhere near as good as The Wrestler, which was HEAVILY re-written by Aronofsky. Don't believe the hype.
Aug. 27, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST
And that's an insult to gays. Is this behavior suppose to be in relation to dick measuring? Suck it up.
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST
When I started listening to Jim Rome, I got caught up in the Jungle atmosphere. I spent some time thinking of smack to call-in, and later found out that's how my Pastor killed down time in college. <>Seeing Patton's character jot down notes immediately hit me, that's what the reg. callers do to get on the air
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:28 p.m. CST
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:55 p.m. CST
You are right...these talkbacks were much better before hateful haters like me had to come along and ruin everything for well meaning nerdly nerds such as yourself. Why do we do it? Why can't we see what a genius JC is? Why can't we all love Avatar and the beautifully rendered Na'vi and the profoundly original story about the environment and mech suits and adventure and dragon flying and wise, furry blue animal friends? It is all there, just waiting for us to embrace and enjoy and instead we ruin it all with our lies. Why can't I love like you love ebonic_plague? Blindly, proudly, unquestioningly?
Aug. 27, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST
Patton has excellent taste - I don't agree with all of it, but I appreciate his range. Unlike some of you sad cases who can't stand to get outside of your action figure comfort zone, Patton (by no means a sports enthusiast) gets behind great under appreciated programs like Friday Night Lights. It fascinates me to hear you guys yammer on endlessly about Dr. Who or Torchwood or The Sarah Connor Chronicles or Firefly (really? still?) and entirely miss brilliant entertainment like FNL.
Aug. 27, 2009, 11:17 p.m. CST
by GibsonUSA Returns
What? Big Fan? Awwwwwww~!
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST
I agree with everything he said, but I would also add that the de-evolution of user commentary online is not just taking place on geek related sites. It is happening everywhere. Since everybody now has a voice, many talkbackers resort to name calling, and childish behavior in order to get attention. The advent of myspace, facebook, and twitter have only made it worse. People resort to increasingly shocking comments in order to impress and to keep their "audience".
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST
I love Jesus Christ.
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST
way to sniff out the clearly implied reference and make it explicit...really great...
Aug. 28, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST
And I demand the Joe Dante Show NOW!
Aug. 28, 2009, 2:55 a.m. CST
the drinks my milkshake line was great, and you know it. let's just agree that you know it, but can't admit it.<p> my taste may differ from yours, but your complete dismissal is exactly what I'm talking about. my favorite movie is Lawrence of Arabia. now, you might hate that movie, and you might hate my taste because I like it, but the talkbacks used to be about DEBATE. if a LAwrence of Arabia talkback came up, I would be excited for two reasons: 1. I could discuss how great the movie was with others who appreciate it. and 2, I could defend it against those who wanted to deride it.<p>that's fun, that's being a movie geek, that's being engaged. the mindless insults, the personal attacks with NO bearing whatsoever on anything movie-related, that is what the talkbacks have become. THIS SUCK! THAT SUCKS! YOU SUCK!! I know we always insulted each other, we used crude references, I was there, I understand that all of that went down same as now. but it wasn't ALL there was, it was just the way we talked to each other. <p>all that's left are people who throw around the same lexicon, but don't really love movies or have any interest in delving into cinema and the fun it provides.<p>and not for nothing, but what on EARTH do you know about my taste in films? I barely remember talking to you about ANYTHING except Patton. and when I asked you about your "insider" job in Hollywood that alluded to, you even stopped talking to me about that. <p>here's a crash course, to catch you up, so that next time you insult my taste, you can actually have some references: I don't like Michael Bay, period. I like Soderbergh a lot, but much more when he's being a little more commercial (Traffic, Out of Sight, Solaris) rather than experimentational for its own sake (Full Frontal, Bubble). I love Michel Gondry, but I didn't like Be Kind Rewind all that much. I love Spike Jonze, I love David Fincher (even Panic Room was fn, but not as great as his other stuff....still haven't seen Benjamin Button, though I have it on bluray), I love old noir like The Big Sleep, my favorite Coen brothers movie is Raising Arizona, followed by The Big Lebowski. I made it through film school, but never got into the super auteur stuff like Bunuel. my favorite movie of the last 5 years was "The Fall" by Tarsem. Defending Your Life, by Albert Brooks, is one of my all time favorites.<p>there you go, off the top of my head. feel free to insult away, I've long since given up on talking about movies or anything interesting with you. just had to clarify how you were proving my point about the talkbacks.
Aug. 28, 2009, 3:01 a.m. CST
Aug. 28, 2009, 3:05 a.m. CST
on talkbacks. Just like no one gives a shit about this one. Harry and the rest of the mascots don't give a fuck about your analyzing what the site has "become."
Aug. 28, 2009, 3:11 a.m. CST
the snotty little prick who always claims "They were here before you were." It's pathetic and it's how wars start, my friend.
Aug. 28, 2009, 3:51 a.m. CST
Give this interview a thumbs up. Definitely checking out "Big Fan" on Saturday.
Aug. 28, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST
Was the fucking annoying dude spamming all the threads telling people to watch Drag Me to Hell <P> NoDiggity <P> I could have sworn that he was Sam's intern or something.
Aug. 28, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST
Is going downhill because you can comment on every god damn thing on the internet. So it loses its value in your mind. Back when you could only comment on facebook walls. And you could only just deleate the whole wall not specific post (pretty much back when facebook was cool). Comments stuck. Now its like you have a new wall every day. Just like this, you get like 10 new threads a day so what you say goes away quickly.
Aug. 28, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST
Good luck with that. And I like FNL too. But carry on with the smarmyness.
Aug. 28, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST
Oswaldo will warm your soul.
Aug. 28, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST
Why the hell do I want to pay ten bucks to kick the chair in front of me for two hours yelling, "Sue the fucker, Oswalt!" at the screen?
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST
...like horseshit, doesn't it?" Defending Your Life is the greatest movie about the afterlife and the big ol' universe machine. Good taste Wonka.
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST
Hadnt heard of TFH before. This is my new fave vice....Must've been snoozing.
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST
AssimovLives. He plays the part of a Douchebag to perfection!
Aug. 28, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST
It starts expanding next week. http://www.bigfanmovie.com/showtimes.html
Aug. 28, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST
yeah I'm gonna watch that now !
Aug. 28, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST
So maybe it wasn't too much of a stretch.
Aug. 28, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST
by Leto III
...Dammit. Just the thought of Cumpston crossing over into the BSG universe is enough to get my man-pussy sloppy wet.
Aug. 28, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST
Dude, your milkshake line was bad, it made me groan out loud it was so cheesy whilst trying to be hip and cool. Listen, no wonder your scripts never sold or got made, if you think that is clever writing or a witty rejoinder, you're beyond help. Only a loser would employ such a "witticism." <p><p> As for your taste, again, atrocious. For some reason you feel the need to justify yourself to me. Why, I have no idea. <p><p> Your favorite movie is Lawrence of Arabia. How original! Why not just cite Citizen Kane and be done with it? <p><p> Never said I was a Hollywood insider, I said I was in the industry. Big difference. I'm not some fucking exec, I work in Hollywood, period. And the reason I didn't answer you is cause a) it doesn't matter what I say and b) unlike you, I don't feel the need to justify myself to others. That is a trait reserved for young, immature people, of which you seem to be a founding member. <p><p> Wow, you don't like Michael Bay, way to go out on a limb! Wow, you like Soderbergh, but only the mainstream shit he does, way to blaze a trail there! Spike Jonze is awesome! I love him too! Nah, just kidding, Spike Jonze stinks. He made one okay movie and one bad movie, therefore he is not even worthy of discussion. He has no body of work outside his cutesy music video work. David Fincher. A guy who started out great and now just churns out shit. So of course you love him, but not enough to see Button in theaters. Coen Brothers. Of course you pick their two most popular comedies as your favorites. Why? Cause you're a mainstream hack with awful taste. Which is why you love Defending Your Life, another cutesy movie that amounts to nothing. A mere piffle. And you love Tarsem, another music video guy. Yeah, you know what Wonka, your taste is impeccable!!! <p><p> God forbid someone like David Cronenberg, or Michael Mann, or Werner Herzog, or Jean Luc Godard, or David Lynch, or Mike Figgis, or Robert Altman, or Mike Leigh make your list. I guess they're a little too out there for someone with such good taste as you? Fuck off you film school nerd with your bullshit mainstream taste. Why even bring up Michael Bay in a film discussion? I'll tell you why, cause you're one of the TB'ers you decry, an immature fool who gets into pissing matches about a shitbag like Bay? YOU are the reason people hate TB'ers.<p><p> Why did Spielberg not make your list? Most film school morons idolize Spielberg, so I figured you would too. Not liking Spielberg is probably the only good taste you will ever have.
Aug. 28, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST
you're an angry little man, brother. and no, I'm not the reason people hat TB'ers, I'm sorry to say. and if it bothers you to hear about what things used to be like, well, tough. there are lots of people who are still here, and they all feel the same, I'm not some anomalous whiner. I'm part of a community of whiners!<p>but I do love you calling me out for being cheesy and pretentious for the milkshake line (which was obviously cheesy and pretentious) and just a little bit later dropping the phrase, "a mere piffle" on us. that made me laugh out loud, so thank you. and I had a tough day losing 2 hours of editing because my screen froze during rendering. I needed a laugh.<p>you can always count on the angriest, meanest people to be the most contradictory, and it's oh so great.<p>oh, and I love Last of the Mohicans, but after how HORRIBLE the digital footage looked in Public Enemies, Mann has a long way to climb back into my good graces. and I've never liked Altman, although The Player has a lot of funny moments. and if you chalk Tarsem up to "a music video director", you have obviously not seen The Fall. whatever you think about me, you really should see it. if nothing else, you can have fun with your massive and inexplicable BadMrWonka hate boner while you watch it, you angry doofus.<p>-Mainstream Hack with Awful Taste
Aug. 28, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST
Please, someone wake me next week.
Aug. 28, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST
Patton's not a sports fan, but he loves Friday Night Lights. Like a lot of people, he wrote the show off as 90210 meets JV football, and later learned his lesson: http://www.mamapop.com/mamapop/2007/08/patton-oswalts-.html
Aug. 29, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST
I give a shit about Wonka's 2 cents. It's true that there have always been dumb belligerent assholes in talkbacks, and lots of them. But according to my independent research those rare, courageous talkbackers who actually try to have a worthwhile discussion of fucking ANYTHING were never as endangered as they are now. They're like pandas, they just don't have it in them to fuck anymore.<p> I mean I'm not familiar with this Cheyne guy so I won't write him off, but I gotta admit it looks like IDIOCRACY when two people are intelligently discussing something so the third guy says they "sound like fags" and leaves it at that. There's been moronic shit like that as long as I've been here but at one point you had to wade through it, now you are deep on the bottom of the ocean trying to spot sunlight somewhere so you can try to swim up and catch your breath.<p> In conclusion, I am looking forward to Big Fan because of the idea that he's an obsessive sports fan who gets beat up by his favorite player. That actually sounds really funny but it's interesting that they say it's more of a drama.
Aug. 29, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST
also meant to mention that the talkback of INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS was really good, or the part of it I read anyway. Lots of points were made that I hadn't thought of, and it was great to see people excited about something in this world where it seems like everyone's goal in life is to be the one who hates the most things with the most venom. Gave me more faith in talkbacks and pandas.
Aug. 29, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST
There are other forums I go to where people actually have brains i can respect and can discuss filmmaking in a sane, thoughtful manner. But when I really just want to be a dickhead, I come here and get it out of my system.
Aug. 29, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST
In a utopian tb, we would all discuss character nuances, cinematic themes, and having generally constructive conversation about film and tv. We would abandon personal insults, simple unexplained hate, obvious flaming. Unfortunately, i just don't see it happening. AICN talkback is just a different animal now. All we can do is promote these kind of conversations and not fan the flames of ignorant comments. oh and .... your mother.
Aug. 29, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST
Where are these forums located?
Aug. 29, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST
that's a good way to put it. there were always crappy, negative people in the talkbacks, but they were in the minority. if someone was just a negative, non-contributing jerk, they'd be shouted down by all the geeks and movie fans who wanted to discuss things. now, it's sort of the reverse, as you pointed out. and the end result of that is that people are less inclined to actually use the talkbacks to discuss anything. they're just sort of this depository where people sign in, type "[insert topic] sucks!!" and go about their business.<p>you know what's funny though? I can't be too mad at cheyne_stoking_blah blah because he made me chuckle when he wrote this:<p> Please don't be the snotty little prick who always claims "They were here before you were."<p>why put the quotation marks in if you were just going to continue your sentence? it's like writing, My girlfriend told me "She loves me."<p>you can't really be mad at someone who can barely write. and you certainly can't expect them to talk intelligently about film. but as you pointed out, they're no longer the exception, they're the rule.
Aug. 29, 2009, 9 p.m. CST
Do you think there are solutions to this? I was thinking maybe pre screening, but that's a little extreme I think. Any ideas?
Aug. 30, 2009, 12:33 a.m. CST
nothing like that. I think maybe if someone is truly a useless jerk, there should be some more liberal banning. but of course, that's a slippery slope, for sure.
Aug. 30, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST
Wonka..respek for at least having the guts to lay your likes and dislikes on the table. I always think these back and forths would be more fun to know where each side is coming from. that being said "Hollywood insiders" are the worst part of the talkbacks cause they always feel like they know more or their opinions are more valid. It just rings so false. When it comes to movies..yeah i call them movies not films..I want to be entertained. When I come to this site I want to be entertained. I laugh my ass off every time I see GibsonUSA post something about BIG LOB. That is funny. If your talking over everyones head then your the only one up there to hear yourself. That is why a bad movie is better than a brilliant movie. We all saw it and we can all discuss, criticize and praise. I'll take UHF over There will be Blood anyday. AND FUCK YOU IF YOU DISAGREE!!! (kidding. disagreeing makes the world go round.)
Aug. 31, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST
I hang out at Dvxuser a lot, mostly good people there...but it's heavily moderated. No personal insults or discussion of religion or politics is allowed or tolerated.
Aug. 31, 2009, 6:36 p.m. CST
When he went into that routine on Conan a while ago I couldn't stop laughing for a half hour. One of the funniest guys working even if he says something I disagree with. I recall him riffing on the Good Will Hunting screenplay but I let it slide becase it was in the middle of a rant about the apocalypse and I was laughing to hard to care.
Aug. 31, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST
Go to the Huffingtonpost, Newsbusters, Daily Kos, and Breitbart to see some really atrocious internet behavior. You'd almost swear one of these guys would stab you in the eye at the dinner table because you didn't vote for their guy in the last election. Moviebuffs have nothing on some of these freaks.