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Neill Blomkamp Says Studio Wants DISTRICT 9 Sequel, Talks HOBBIT Shoot, Etc!!
Merrick here...
In THIS INTERVIEW with SciFiMoviePage, writer/director Neill Blomkamp reveals that The Powers That Be want a "sequel" to DISTRICT 9 - which he "jokingly" (although not unexpectedly) refers to as DISTRICT 10.
The interview discusses whether to prequel or not to prequel, what to do with Wikus, etc.
Neill also mentions D9 producer Peter Jackson's work on del Toro's HOBBIT adaptation - indicating that current plans call for 370 days of shooting on that film, starting in April. Not sure that length of shoot has been mentioned elsewhere before (although maybe it has) - 'tis a long haul indeed.
Click the link above to hear the ful audio interview.
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Wow!
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...knees wobbly and my blood cold...scary to set that machine in motion...
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No studio involvement is what helped make D9 the amazing movie it is.
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They must have added/changed a lot of stuff. Hope they know what they are doing, it's a small story at the centre of The Hobbit, unlike the vast mythos of The Lord of the Rings.
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But D9 was nicely self-contained and any sequel/prequel would have a lot to live up to. It'd be a shame if it was made just for the money.
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Spread out over 3 typhoon-soaked years? The only other number I can think of that approaches that was Akira Kurosawa using 250 or so shooting days for Ran.
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...that Peter and Niell aren't still doing Halo. :'(
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I can't wait for Christopher to return in 3 years. It's not going to be pretty.
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...for the last couple of years? They are folding in any relevant events from the SILMARILLION that take place at the same time or touch on the HOBBIT narrative to give it a larger canvas and help it fit in with LOTR. I wish you a speedy recovery...
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That's fucking insane. A full year of just shooting, not including pre or post-prod, editing, etc? For two movies? I can barely wrap my head around signing on for that project. What an ordeal. And as for "D10", of course they want a sequel, it cost 30 and has made over 80 already...thats fucking retarded profit.
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If the BO exceeds a certain amount, sequel production kicks in automatically.
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That's fucking insane. A full year of just shooting, not including pre or post-prod, editing, etc? For two movies? I can barely wrap my head around signing on for that project. What an ordeal. And as for "D10", of course they want a sequel, it cost 30 and has made over 80 already...thats fucking retarded profit.
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And keep it under $50 million.
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You go to earth and I'll stay here and play my brand new XBOX Elite.
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Will reinvent the way movies are experienced Epic masterpiece mind-blowing Photo-realJaw-droppingCGI unlike anything you have seen before Like dreaming with your eyes open Revolutionary Cameron's Lawrence of ArabiaGame-changerThis generation's Stars Wars Unlike anything you have seen before Truly amazing Prepare to be blown away Breathtaking Like a highly addictive drug that had left my mind yearning for more Can't stop dreaming about it This movie had activated parts of my brain that were previously untouched by conventional, two-dimensional films
Does not look like shit
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Aug 25, 2009 10:58:42 AM CDT
...370, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I would be on...
by flickapoo
...every anti-anxiety med on the market...and maybe a few that aren't...
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if neil doesn't move on to something else, maybe he's not that great.
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...they will shoot 3 movies back to back.
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Aug 25, 2009 11:02:23 AM CDT
...hell, I couldn't sleep after watching LOST IN LA MANCHA...
by flickapoo
...scariest horror movie I ever saw.
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he mentioned that most Q&As. he might have more fun ideas with the 'past' mythology of D9, but everyone wants to see what happens in 3 years. if he really NEEDS to, i suggest cutting the movie into two parts.. first part he can play around with the 'past' then shift ahead to their return.
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Aug 25, 2009 11:07:09 AM CDT
But in all honesty, how many fucking home video releases now?
by yackbacker
I despise the way those LOTR movies were released on DVD. And now, with 2 more movies added to the series... fuck me, you know they'll have even newer versions of the original movies too. To integrate shit, etc... just send $1,000 to Peter Jackson directly.
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Aug 25, 2009 11:07:52 AM CDT
krod, directing a movie isn't like your job at Dairy Queen...
by flickapoo
...sure it's rewarding, but three hundred and seventy days is a long time to be at your creative best. That's an exciting but very big and scary boulder to be pushing up a hill...
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the guy has caught the attention of big name directors and studios, he made one movie that lots of people love and are clamoring for a sequel.. if he does happen to make D10 before a different movie it doesnt mean he's a hack, it means he's smart.. he makes tons of fans happy, and the studio happy (in turn giving him more freedom for his next project.)
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The movie demanded a sequel - plus whoever doesn't want more of this story/movie is either stuck up snooty or just flat out lame. I want more D9 goodness...
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but really making a sequel would have to be somethi Neil would want to do and even ahve agood idea for. there's plenty fo possiblities. I jokingly suggestted that Christopher arrive at his home planet and face the same insane corporate greed and bureaucracy he endured here on earth." Christopher Johnson...you were entrusted with a mining transport and 1.5 mil workers. would you say you have failed miserably at your job?" I'm down for whatever Blompkamp does next.
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"Don't know if this has been mentioned (posted) elsewhere before... maybe it has." Way to cover your ineptitude there, Merrick. Google and Bing be damned. Took me about five seconds to type, "Hobbit shooting schedule", into Bing and the first article that pops up shows that this info has been bout there since at least last December. Ain't it cool?
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the studios to FUCK OFF.
They pulled the plug on him and Halo, which was the catalyst for D9 in the 1st place. Now he's gone and rubbed their faces in shit by proving he can make a viable sci fi action piece that fans love and that makes money.
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Aug 25, 2009 11:20:47 AM CDT
a studio wants to make a sequel to a film that made money????
by six demon bag
no shit...
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....and really, not even sure they should do that. Let me get this straight: I LOVED District 9. Really is the best sci-fi movie since the Abyss, or Blade Runner. But in my mind it should stand a,lone, it should be one of those perfect movies that they DON'T fuck up with a slew of sub-par sequels. That said, if they are going to make another, make it a sequel and not a prequel. I fucking hate prequels - there is no point to them as you already know how the story is going to turn out, and filling in backhistories just lessens the greatness of the original movie - Lucas, you bastard, I'm looking at you. A sequel based around Christopher's return, Wikus's transformantion back to human and trying to get back to his wife during alien attempts to rescue all the Prawns on Earth and MNU's attempts to stop them could make for a good sequel.....possibly. ONLY if Blomkamp returns to direct, ONLY if Sharlto Copley is headlining and ONLY if they keep the budget under 60 million. Giving them too much money could ruin it. This film was magic, lightening in a bottle.....mcuh though the idea of a sequel intrigues me, I wish they'd leave it alone and just whack Blomkamp into the directors chair for Halo.
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...as long as the sequel is a "fun popcorn flick". Maybe Bay can produce.
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Yeah I knew that, just didn't realise they were adding that much.
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Just let him make Halo already! It will make a bazillion dollars!
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from a profit standpoint i understand it and probably would still see it like the rest of the baboons but from a creative standpoint didn't we already have what i like to call The Matrix syndrome? While i own all three M movies, the only one i ever watch is The Matrix and don't even acknowledge the other two. I get the feeling the same thing is going to happen with District9. If you go to the well too many times, ideas just get too diluted. Not surprised ot anything, just a shame that creative types in hollywood feel like they only have like one idea in their noggins.
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Making for another trilogy, with the 3rd (bridge) movie being directed by Peter Jackson has sounded to me like fanboy fantasy, and not a likely outcome . . . but if they are expecting a 370 day shoot, maybe it's true. That certainly sounds like 3, rather than 2, movies to me.
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But that was for three films. Hobbit is one book turned into two movies.
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Aug 25, 2009 11:29:07 AM CDT
370 days of shooting hobbits
by the_ad_wizard_who_came_up_with_this_one
sounds like a fucking nightmare.
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story possibilities? ummm #1) Sharlot turning human again-that right there is the proellant for the script. #2)-they mention the population has grown exponetially, and the smarter aliens have escaped(and christopher was APPALED at the experiments on his kind)...in other words...revenge? Perhaps MORE aliens do return to liberate the rest.(and please, only liberate, not annihalate)..#3)the man in prison...he COULD(although itd be boring)..factor in somehow...i mean, truthfully...a SEQUEL would be better than a PREQUEL!
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Not a sequel to one of the WORST movies I've ever had the misfortunes to see.
DISTRICT 9 expects us to believe that, when advanced, intelligent aliens show up with anti-grav, and interstellar capabilities, we'll just stuff them in ghettos and the rest of the world will ignore this? Ridiculous!
The South Africans aren't happy about them being there? And the Americans/Russians/Japanese/etc wouldn't be fighting for the privilege of having them moved to their countries to soak them for that technology??? Unbelievable.
There's this million-ton starship hanging deserted over the city. It's been twenty years and no one has apparently moved out from under it?! I'd be thinking "One of these days the Duracells that power the thing will wear out and it'll faww down, go BOOM! and I wouldn't want to be under it when it happens."
Weapons of unknown destructive potential are stored DOWNTOWN by a private firm (where's the real army in this movie?!?!?!) and guarded by a bunch of glorified rent-a-cops? Say what?!
This really is one of the stupidest, most poorly-thought out films I've ever seen.
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but the execution was. (as the posters said, because the budget was not Bay-ified.)
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And. A. Baby.
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DOES THE 365 include the COUNTLESS re-shoots done years later, as the films were being released?I dont think so...It was ALOT more than 365 days(in total)...but perhaps its ebcuase NOW that Jackson has the clout and the numbers from the previous films(and oscars!) to back it up, he probably got a much BETTER shooting shcedule this go around!
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Is an uncessary endeavor. If that story was worth telling it would have already been told in the original film.
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with black alien jizz, that can also be used to power an entire space ship. FUCKING low budget crap movie.
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Yeah that doesn't include the yearly returns to reshoot scenes.
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now go look up the word "entertainment" in the dictionary.
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What would a prequel give us that they didn't already cover in D9? They already said what eeded to be said concerning the prawns. Also, if Christopher Johnson came back to liberate his people it would become too much of a different kind of movie. The Matrix trilogy analogy it good but I think it would be more along the lines of Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick. I think ending the movie with the thought of hope that leaves people to come up with thier own outcome is way better. I love big epics but D9 is perfect the way it is.
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eat a 9 inch D-ick.
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They are filming two Hobbit movies back-to-back, inventing plenty of stuff along the way, which I really don't understand. But even filming two movies back to back shouldn't take over a year.
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What this film desperately needed was for someone to realize how dumb the whole premise was.
Just look at the black goo. It's as though someone on Earth invented a fuel/drive/food which just also happened to change insects into humans. I'm a big SF fan, but even I can't stretch suspension of disbelief that far. Or the shuttle at the end. It got shot down with ridiculous ease the first time, so why didn't they do it a second time when it started going up again? The ascent was broadcast on national tv, and they had missiles left, was the whole military command chain taking a nap? Made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Or the fact that there wasn't a HUGE human presence (the U.N. or other) on the ship to investigate/study its technologies. I'm a fond believer of 'alternate realities' stories, but this is one reality where humans are too stupid to have survived to this point. Just look at the guy showing up to work with black goo coming out of his nose after being at the alioen enclave. Nobody at this HIGH SECURITY place thought maybe putting him in isolation/quarantine might be an idea? Nope. Again, absolute nonsense. Yet not anywhere near consistently funny enough to be a comedy. -
Ian McKellen supposedly knows who it is but isn't spilling the beans. Says people will be pleased w/ the casting. And D10 is a no brainer, but only if Blomkamp has full control.
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Aug 25, 2009 11:46:36 AM CDT
Getto bug aliens landing in the fucking worlds getto (africa)
by a_terradactyl
the whole fucking movie is GETTO.
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...which takes place between The Hobbit and LOTR? Could the alotted 370 days include that shoot?
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http://www.scifimoviepage.com/upcoming/previews/district9-sequel.html
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Have you actually seen the movie...?
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D9 DOES NOT need a sequel... However I heard Marc Forster dropped out of WWZ... Now Imagine What Blomkamp could do with that world...
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i havent seen yet the movie,it hasnt premiered in greece,but from what i have read from the talkbacks here,the same issues rise: the movie takes a lot of compromises in order to tell the story,which hurts the setup of the movies world,and at the end hurts the validity of the story itself.
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...of "entertainment", rben, includes well-made films such as IRON MAN, V FOR VENDETTA, WATCHMEN and others, not crap where we're expected to believe that the black goo fuel not only transforms DNA in a viable manner (OK, I'll buy that for the sake of the plot), but that it magically confers the KNOWLEDGE of HOW to use the DNA-linked technology as well. Say what?!?! And how are Christopher and his kid supposed to survive going to wherever they're going (not their home world) when they almost died of starvation making it to Earth in the first place?! Has everyone forgotten that little detail?
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a person who can think. This whole movie was retarted. They had a good idea about aliens having to use earth for a pit stop, but someone else should have taken over from there. I love a good SciFi too, but damn use some common sense (Directors)
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why not? since it showed that it has potential for a franchise,just remake the same movie with a bigger budget and promotion.that will get a bigger audience and more money.
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...a wild guess here. This time the Aliens will be in L.A....
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You're "retarted." That's all.
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Made the mistake of seeing it last night. Have YOU seen it? Because I don't know what reality you live in, but in mine, Soviet and American forces were racing to see who could capture the most German scientists at the end of the war on the basis that they could give either side technological/military advantages. Yet we're expected to believe that in DISTRICT 9's reality those same powers would just let incredibly advanced aliens fester in a third world ghetto for twenty years? Clearly the director wanted to rage against Apartheid and I get that. Apartheid = bad. But the story he constructed to do it with is so completely buggy (no pun intended) and lacking in any logic whatsoever, that it completely ruined the message for me.
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Aug 25, 2009 12:05:09 PM CDT
"well-made films such as IRON MAN, V FOR VENDETTA, WATCHMEN"
by mr. nice gaius
Oh boy.
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the operation of the soviets/americans to bring the german scientists into their country,after the end of ww2.
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Shut mouth when your talking to me. you donkey raping shit eater.
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I didn't know you actually were retarded, now I feel bad. Tell your caretaker I'm sorry.
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but yeah only if Blomkamp has creative control with Jackson input. No studio meddling. I'd rather see a sequel than a prequel, although flashbacks to the past would be good to have.
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www.wikuswaits.com
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correctly. Fucking DOUCH BAG
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If you didn't like the movie why are you spending your precious times talking about it in stead of talking about something you like else where? You made your statement and you point why continue to beat a dead horse? I don't get why people in the talkbacks spend so much time hashing and rehashing things they don't like when they could use that time doing something involving something they do like.
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Care to keep going? Now I'm just curious as to HOW retarded you are.
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you dont like,then your country would still be a region of the British Empire or you would afraid to masturbate because the Spanish Inquisition would send you to hell.
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beating off a dead horse is fun. You of all people should know this. All of the talk back for D9 has been good, somebody need to tell the truth about this shit ass movie and to stop crap like this from ever being made. Do you get it now shit filled vagina.
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But you'll note that I back up my assertions with FACTS from the movie (you do know the difference between an "I liked it" opinion and a "This happens in the film and it make no logical sense because" fact, right?) whereas you have no evidence or facts to back up your assertion.
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I'm assuming you're just trolling, but even so, i'll bite. Its 20 years later, so the fact that there aren't people all over the ship getting technology means that they tried, and failed. The tech is too advanced, and/or relies too much on alien DNA, we can't do anything with it. I know its a sci-fi creedo that humans are the shit, and we can figure out any alien tech, but that's just bullshit. If we dropped a fully functional vw bug into the center of a primative tribe of humans, do you expect them to be manufacturing them in 20 years? your points on fuel can be equally worked out with a little imagination. And the whole "they're not even going to their home planet" argument just goes to show that you didn't watch the movie closly. The part where he says "we're not going home" is AFTER CJ is convinced that don't get to go home. Watch the movie again, and open your mind a little.
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LOL, keep going! You win my internet for the day.
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what does this interview say about the future of Wikus? Cannot listen to audio at work and would appreciate the help. Thanks!
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After all the Hellboys and Hobbits I hope he gets back to making his own films again.
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I don't think I did, as I've given up on talking about movies with you TB trolls. Much more rewarding to just poke a terradactyl with a stick and watch him sputter.
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This site will never have one. NEVER I TELL YOU! We want to be different! Damn the man!
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yes people, has actually sucked shit through a dick. Simply amazing. All done with a vacab of one word (retarted)
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Aug 25, 2009 12:30:48 PM CDT
The movie needs to tank already, I want the Blu Ray now!
by michaebayforsuperman_justiceleague
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intelligent.From the interview with Blomkamp at the Onion A.V. club:"The idea is that—this gets really geeky and insane, but going back to their hive-structure thing—their queen has died, and the elite population of their society has died, which are really the decision-makers. You’re left with a bunch of drones that aren’t directed on their own goal-setting basis. I like the idea that after 20 or 30 years, that their ESP kind of hive-mind will begin to almost elect members of its population to start—their fundamental brain architecture could actually change, and they start forming leadership roles.So I think when they’re on their ship, and they’re all destitute, when you see them at the beginning of the film starving, it’s that there is no one thinking on that level. They simply take orders. So it’s taken 20 years for that hive to start realigning itself. And so as Christopher has gone through these years, his mind has started to be honed into forming a plan. So that’s where it came from. And this nano-fluid that he had to collect, which he would have had access to on the ship back then, it’s just simply that the drive didn’t exist. The hive is just trying to restart itself."
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2 movies - not 3.
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"AVC: That point about the queen never comes out explicitly in the film. There’s a lot left to the imagination, and a lot the audience has to figure out on its own.NB: Yeah, I think so. I really wanted the film to feel as real as possible, but I think if you spoon-feed people every piece of detail, it makes it less real. It just feels like a Hollywood spoon-feeding festival, as opposed to if you throw the audience into the middle of it, so they’re kind of trying to figure out what’s going on. I was okay with how much wasn’t explained."
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By doing so I've already convinced a couple of people I know not to waste their hard-earned money on seeing it. They agree with me, havind heard the arguments, the film insults the audience's intelligence and isn't worth the price of admission. So I'm providing a valuable social service. ;-) You'll note that I am specific in why I didn't like it and why people should avoid it. People who seemed to like it just say "I loved it" with rarely any sense of why. Probably all the pretty ka-booms later on. It certainly isn't because it's good science fiction. Good SF starts off with ONE change and then examines what happens as a logical result of that change. "What if?" This film has several changes (not the least of which is humanity's average IQ dropping by at least 50 points) and utterly fails to apply any sort of reasonable logic in following up on them.
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wow, someone didn't take their anti-Tourette syndrome drugs today. Just breath deep, and type slowly, and your textual diarrhea will cease!
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Does dyslexia that severe qualify you for one of those handicapped license plates? After you turn 16, of course. And Grrr... cheers for the internet! And give generously to the special olympics, help make a terradactyl's dream come true.
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You might want to stop now ebonic plague before you get in too deep. A_terradactyl is a pure asshole who wants nothing. Your arguing with a ghost.
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He wasn't supposed to have changed much between Hobbit and Fellowship, and Gandalf did say "You haven't aged a day" etc... I'm sure they could have slightly digitally de-aged Holm a bit.
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They'll pour hundreds of millions into it, hiring the cast of the Hills, making horrendous CGI, and making it rated PG for the toy tie-ins.
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I love it when DOUCHE bags try to argue back to utter stupiedness. It brings the douche bags to the plate. you know what I mean. Only dumb fucks argue with a TERRADACTYL im a dino for christ sake
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the aliens in the slum are a "worker caste" they have no technical knoweledge. thats why i asked if you had actually seen the movie. because everything you are complaining about is explained in the movie. that is, if you pay attention and have half a brain to figure it out. but, i think your trolling so, fuck off...
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The sequel for District 9 needs to be handled the way Aliens was for Alien. I want more of the best parts of District 9.
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i see this guy all over this site. he has nothing worth while to say. he basically goes into a talk back and says the opposite of the general tone of the talkback. then he waits for everyone to flame him. he is a loser. that is all.
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Aug 25, 2009 12:48:32 PM CDT
Wasn't the whole point of District 9 to make an original film?
by ribbons
Kind of ironic (yet, sadly, not surprising in the least) that they're talking about transforming it into a franchise already.
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I know that. The fact remains THEY ARE NOT GOING HOME. Which is what I said. Of course if we dropped a VW bug in the midst of a primitive tribe they wouldn't manufacture them 20 years later. Hello, scientific method? Didn't develop until we had the spare food and resources to have manpower available so of course those tribes wouldn't do anything with them. We know better. Have we licked AIDS? Nope. Hasn't stopped us from forking on it for over a quarter of a century. Cold fusion? Proved impossible by conventional physics. Twenty years later, the U.S. government is still working on it (look it up in New Scientist). The idea that alien tech is so advanced or 'different' that we'd give up studying it is nonsense. For one thing, it requires alien DNA to CONTROL it. So, we learn the basic principles behind it and then redesign it with HUMAN controls. Ta-da! Or just take 'skin' off alien corpses and make 'gloves' to use to operate the stuff. The batteries alone they use can't employ alien DNA to work (batteries don't work that way) and that technology alone would be worth many, many billions. So, yeah, they'd be all over it trying to extract every little bit, if only to make sure the other guys aren't doing it ahead of them. Again, simple lessons from true life history.
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...And that's not counting the pickups. I take it as a good sign that they have some great things planned, and that the studio is not pushing for a quick and easy production.
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The idea the bugs have castes also doesn't make sense, because in bugs, queens do all the egg laying. Er, the queen's supposed to be dead according to some here. OK, so who's laying the eggs? Again, doesn't stand up in context. They are workers? OK, they should stioll be able to operate computers and other basic machinery. Then humans can translate the data (they can understand the spoken language, they should be able to read it) and start mining the ships data banks for tech schematics and other things.
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pretend it had subtitles might as well...
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I liked his attempts at parodying my handle, though. I might just have to register fagonic_ballsuck.
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D9 isn't "true life or history" it's science fiction. and barely that. its mostly an action movie. you sure are wasting a lot of time analyzing a movie that you hate. you could spend some time ripping on the fact that arnold smeared mud on himself to hide from the predators thermal vision. which is complete bullshit, but i still love Predator...
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Quote: "The idea the bugs have castes also doesn't make sense, because in bugs, queens do all the egg laying."THEY'RE. FUCKING. ALIENS!My gods, what's wrong with AICN's current crop of hater-trolls? Are they all on dope?!
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Aug 25, 2009 1:00:03 PM CDT
Yes a sequel with flashbacks(instead of prequel) would be the be
by wankeroo
Also - StarWolf obviously hates D9 for some reason and is going far out of his way to prove some lore is improbable that he didn't even write?Am I not to watch Iron Man cause I don't agree with the physics?
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Really? Seriously? You are debating what would happen in the real world if aliens arrived. Not enough reality in the movie for you? Do you enjoy any movie you retard? You do understand it is a form of entertainment and not an actually documentary right? Well guess what that movie was set in the future... In the future the US and other powers economies fall apart, wars started, the outcome multiple UN type organizations popped up instead of governments, like MNU. There are many ways to make the story work since it is FICTION idiot. And you want to talk about reality, frankly companies have more money and control in the world we live in than most governments. The idea that a huge billion dollar company gets the rights over D9 makes sense. Also the movie was about what happened to Africans when they are moved from their home country to live in camps in other countries. You haters need to relax and jerk off or something because just because something became a hit and became popular, does not mean you have to make things up to hate on it. Debate over. I win.
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Even if it's like D9, but something new. But in Blom I trust!
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Either The Hobbit will be two LONG ASSED movies, or it's a trilogy.Yes I know they've said it will only be 2 movies, but 370 fucking days of shooting for 2 movies? I think that was about the same shooting days as LOTR wasn't it? Sounds like they will be incorporating a lot of either completely invented stuff, of maybe a flashback structure going to The Simarillion stuff.
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LOTR was filming for 18 months, not 365 days...and that IS NOT including the yearly reshoots.
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If he doesn't, somebody else will. Remember what happened to the creators of Blair Witch? They weren't involved in the crap sequel (franchise: dead) and they chose to branch out and show they could do something different (a romantic comedy that they never finished). Where are they now? Make the sequel yourself and develop some other projects along the way. And this time, make the movie at least somewhat logical.
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isnt that what it means to be independent?
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maybe throw one or two interesting ideas,helping levitate the D9 universe,maybe we get mudflap and skids as transformers turned into humans turned into aliens,or something like hat.
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OMG the hobbit is so fake! hobbits? seriously? a whole group of people who are not even 4 feet tall!? i know a little something about human anatomy and that is so fake! and dragons? what-ever! lizards can't grow to be bigger than 6 feet and they certainly can't fly! i know this from a little thing called life experience!
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No film is "fucked up" by a bad sequel. It still exists, and if your memory of "Predator" is screwed up by "Predator 2" that's like saying your best blowjob was ruined by the memory of your worst.
As far as sequels are concerned, yes they are mostly a financial consideration. But then movie-making is a vast business employing hundreds of thousands of people who have to keep roofs over their heads and the food on their tables. What did you do at work yesterday? If it worked, should you do something totally different tomorrow? I celebrate the director with the freedom and vision to do something new every time, but hell, Shakespeare did sequels and definitely wrote for money, so what the hell? Like the man said in "Jerry McGuire": "It ain't Show Friendship. It's Show Business." -
like making the hobbit
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It was an alternative 'what if' story in which the aliens had arrived around 1982 or so. Starwolf is somewhat annoying but if you're going to call him stupid at least get your own facts right.
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You can pick apart every single movie if you really wanted to. The advancements in the awesome CGI of D9 alone is worth the price of admission add to that the great story, characters, acting and action and you've more than got your money's worth for your evening's entertainment. Fuck you, starwolf.
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So you're sayign that if Blomkamp makes a sequel to District 9....that would make District 9 suck because we know how it will end? A story is a story no matter what chronology it takes. It's like saying The Hobbit will suck because we know how it ends!
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...let's skip the "fooking" documentary style next time, please. That got pretty annoying after the first 10 minutes.
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6 months of shooting to make a 4 hour movie since most films are 2 hours and take 3 months to shoot.
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they are shooting a lot of stuff that we are not going to see in the final theatrical release.They will use them as extra materials for the infinite dvd/blurays versions which will get releashed.
They will use all those unreleashed scenes as bait in order to milk the wallets of the fanboys.Have u forgotten,than PJ has releashed the theatrical version of LOTR in BR,while u could easily release both version,original and extended in the same bluray package? ofc he didnt do it,in order to sell the new bluray extended super duper boxset later.
do u get it? they have find out the perfect way to sell the same product again and again,just like what Paramount does with the star trek property all these years.
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It usually depends on whether the sequel is made by those who made the original and if it expands on and explains the story of the original, and if that works. If the sequel is simply a bastardization by others not involved with the original, it can be forgotten. If Spielberg were to make a sequel to E.T. which takes place on their alien planet and we discover that the E.T.'s are all pedophiles who sodomize young boys with their long fingers and that's why E.T. liked Elliot....yes, that would definitely fuck up the original.
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arguments as idiotic,when the same arguments are accepted as logical,when movies like Transformers 2,Wolverine or GiJoe are going to get trashed.
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sequel fucked up the whole mythos and coolness of the original movie.they even releashed a re-edited movie to fix some atrocities they made in the movies universe.
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District 9 was decent at best, and I could only imagine a sequel being much worse. I think the reason so many people flocked to this is because it's a relatively new take on alien invasion, and a pretty cool one at that. Really though the movie failed to maintain much momentum, and it was extremely hard to have any feelings for Wikus. Unless they really come up with a fan-fucking-tastic idea they'd be best to leave it alone. I sure hope they don't go the route of Christopher coming back to invade earth, while keeping his promise to Wikus. That would be SO lame, and it's much better left open ended. In fact that was one of the cooler parts of the movie.
Also, the CGI in this movie was about good as Men In Black was 10 years ago, maybe a bit better. Not that Men in Black was bad, but it was no more or less believable then a lot of CGI monster flicks. Except of course I am Legend, cause that was godawful -
Aug 25, 2009 1:44:46 PM CDT
Blomkamp should tell the powers that be to fuck right off.
by dwarfsidious
Make them greenlight an original of his. He just earned it.
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It wasn't really an invasion now was it.
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hellraiser 2 was great! that new doctor cenobite was very cool and rivaled even pinhead! but your point is valid. the matrix 2 & 3 has negatively effected my ability to enjoy the matrix 1.
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you argument made sense up until you said that the cgi in D9 was only as good as the cgi in men in black. thats when you lost me. those aliens in D9 look like real physical objects. way better than men in black. bad comparison
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That's a disproved myth. It's the exact same movie, frame-for-frame, released all around the world. There was some sort of mistake on a box somewhere that was disproved. I know because if there was a director's cut, I wanted it. There ISN'T one. Hellbound is a prime example of a GOOD sequel by the way.
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my mind is drifting...
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Let us not forget that D9 was REALLY about xenophobia and human society's history of enslaving and exploiting others. Now that the movie's message has been played out in D9, I can't imagine that a sequel would be anything more than just a straight-ahead action film with no real message. It would dilute the magnificence of the first film if the second film was just explosions and eye candy.
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who were supporting this movie,even prior to its release,because it was something fresh and not just a remake/sequel/prequel etc,with a fresh director with cool ideas making an independent.
And BAM!!! a sequel is announced while the first movie hasnt even completed its course in the theaters.Irony isnt it? at the end of the day its all about the goddamn money... -
Let the man write a NEW SCRIPT!!!! District 9 is a hit because it isn't a sequel, prequel, requel or adaptation. Audiences want new material and we got that w/ D9.
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Prawns vs. Zombies, with Humans stuck in the middle.
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Now, we're on ther eplanet, in THERE ghetto, and humans are on there planet, held captive.Jackson, that one is free!
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Warts and all.
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Aug 25, 2009 2:22:40 PM CDT
370 Days to fuck my eyeballs................................
by crackerfarmboy
Is that 370 for both Hobbit films? Because that I can sort of understand...
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fuck, that sucks! Can anyone SERIOUSLY tell me who is returning? I know its gandalf, and presumably aragon,who else?
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Aug 25, 2009 2:32:31 PM CDT
so because StarWolf expresses his opinion, he's therefore a trol
by sirbiatchreturns
Gotta love these internet sites, where people complain when you disagree, especially when you present logical facts for disagreement. Then it's "why did you post here? blah blah". Well, it's a goddamn website that is built on user comments. You're supposed to post whatever you think, dummy! If we only posted what we agreed on, this site would be super boring. The only times we'd be talking are to comment on "how tasty Ellen Page is" or "Peter Jackson has nice shoes." That aside, District 9 seems to have a retarded non-logical premise and an equally retarded potrayal of Nigerians. I'm not into movies like that, so at best, I'll download it. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy the film. My bro for example, thought the movie was retarded in some parts, but still enjoyed it. So don't get defensive. But to act like District 9 can't be criticized is completely ridiculous. Let's face it - we're starved for quality entertainment. And this year has been a SHITFEST. D9, a better-than-shit movie comes along, and everyone jumps on the wagon.
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By using the "faux documentary" style which implicity claims that the film is realistic representation of how humanity would react to an alien arrival. The standard latitude you give to sci-fi films doesn't apply here. I liked D9 to the tune of a solid B, but there's way too much nonsensical shit going on to raise it to classic status.
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Ominus, no offense brother, but fuck you. And thanks for all the fish!
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I know fuck-all about that steaming pile. I saw it in the theater and was embarrassed for everyone who had anything to do with making, projecting or viewing that POS.
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Accept it, or don't. It's still a modern scifi classic. Ten year from now, when people are looking for an above average scifi movie to watch, D9 is what they're going to turn to.
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Unless there is some serious revisionist writing going on, his whole life history plays out in LOTR and never intersects with the events portrayed in The Hobbit.The only "returning" characters are Gandalf and Bilbo Baggins. It's a similar story to LOTR except instead of destroying a ring, he is hired to steal from a dragon. I frankly don't recall if it was a specific item he was supposed to get back, others can fill that in. So he sets out with Gandalf and several dwarves. Along the way they encounter giant spiders, wood elves, trolls and "Lake people", who are humans. It's a damn cool adventure story but I don't know how the hell they are going to stretch it out to 6-8 hours!
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D10 will end up just like 28 weeks did and have a shit layer of gloss thrown on it. Fuck you hollywood.
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Greatest director material match up of all time
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I agree D9 does not cross the bar, or get anywhere near it frankly. I think the only people saying that are ones who think the same thing about Sky Captain. let me just clear that up, Sky Captain is a piece of shit. It's LAUGHABLY bad, yet dubbed a classic" by these same uber dorks.Now don't get me wrong, I like District 9, but there's a lot of nonsensical horseshit in it I'm not going to get into again.The notion that it's anything original is put forth by children who never heard of Alien Nation or V or The Fly or as someone else mentioned, Laserblast.Quite simply, D9 is a hodgepodge of sci fi cliches. That's not necessarily a bad thing. They are pretty ingrained in the genre. It's the illogical shortcuts that irritate me about D9. These PLOT HOLES cause people to dream up all kinds of irrational explanations for things. Good sci SHOULD cause the viewer to ask questions...but not about what the fuck is happening onscreen!
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It is a stand alone classic that works as one story. It was brought about through good ideas rather than the need to make another alien action movie, that's why it is so good. It got it's point across the first time, leaving enough to the imagination. It has no need to try again. Like the matrix, a sequel would likely only cheapen the content of the original film.
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Aug 25, 2009 3:26:41 PM CDT
lotr shoot all together was 18 months??
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
i assume your talking all three movies right?
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Set the budget and demand absolute creative control - if some douchebag from the studio has creative suggestions, dismiss them.
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Aug 25, 2009 3:44:37 PM CDT
Oh really, a sequel? Wow, this ass really had a vision
by lockesbrokenleg
dollar signs
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I think D9 proves that Neill Blomkamp can handle Halo. Hell, it looks like he had the Halo aliens in mind when he designed the Prawns.
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The end sets up for it. I'm wondering if the scale will be upped in the next outing. I could see the Prawns coming back with war ships and blowing the hell out of South Africa. Hope the black guy gets out of prison though, it sucks that often whistle blowers become the fall guys because of how huge corporation's law system is.
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I think it would be interesting if not only were they there to evacuate their people but to collect those reponsible for experiment on their kind. If I were Christopher Johnson I would want justice for those prawns and I'd probably be gunning for the CEO's of the corporation. Failing to comply would lead to massive devastation.
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No need for a sequel either that's for sure.
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they would have given the greenlight to the next three District 9 movies plus a spin-off TV series by the producers of "Desperate Housewives" and "Grey's Anatomy."
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its not that he criticized D9. its that his criticisms were off base. you have to see the movie more than once or pay close attention to it the first time, to really get all the details. this is a movie where the explanations are not handed to you on a silver platter, like most hollywood movies. most peoples complaints about the plot holes are not actually plot holes. and p.s., you can pick apart plot holes in every single movie ever made...
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Oddly enough, I think people are way more forgiving of plot holes now than before. In fact, people hate when you mention a movie has plot holes - it's like a no-no these days, despite the fact that managing plot holes is one of the hardest (and most integral) aspects of writing. It's like sewing a shirt without leaving holes and/or obvious stitches. But now, people are just cool with it. Obviously some plot holes are major while others are minor/borderline irrelevant, but I'm seeing a lot of movies these days with major gaping plot holes and everyone seems to be cool with that. People don't seem to mind when movies disregard their own 'internal logic.' And then I'm the hater for bringing it up. WTF is going on?
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No one wants that!!! We want to see what happens when the aliens come for their people and kick our asses for what we've done. Also, will Wikes's humanity be restored? I'm in no way interested in a movie that doesn't explore those things. Sure I want some answers about why the aliens behaved so primitive on Earth and what caused them to be stuck at Earth, but tell us in a story that moves forward, not back! Wikes and Christopher must be back!
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Why is it the second something becomes popular with mainstream audiences, The Nerd Cult of HomoErotic Rage starts raining down shit on what they once thought was cool?
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is just a complete fallacy.
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What should I expect from people who hold up ST:TOS as the mother of all scifi.
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It's like Devin Faraci cloned himself, and now all his artie lange looking ass clones are posting on AICN. Sad.
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yeah, you obviously are not a nerd. actually wait. you used the term "ST:TOS". you are definitely a nerd.
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thats what i think. i think christopher johnson and his son were a couple of the only surviving leadership caste.
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I have a feeling you're one of those fellows that doesn't like anything. District 9 was amazing- you can pick apart every movie ever made if you want, that's cool. but D9 was great film making and great storytelling. The trailers for both super hyped movies AVATAR and SHUTTER ISLAND look like crap and can both be picked apart to no end. what's your point? that every movie ever made is awful, full of inadequacies and untruths? WAKE UP! ITS CALLED FICTION!
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you said: "Why is it the second something becomes popular with mainstream audiences, The Nerd Cult of HomoErotic Rage starts raining down shit on what they once thought was cool?"
i just saw you on the handcock talkback saying "fuck D9" you are a straight up hypocrite. or a troll. take your pick -
10 bucks says Neil Blomkamp produces and lets someone else helm a D9 followup. He got his story told, and the stars aligned with Jackson producing and WETA helping out with the F/X. I'd rather leave it to my imagination as to what happens next for Wikus, as opposed to a "big budget" sequel where the apartheid motif of the original is devolved into something typical-Hollywood, or a prequel (ahh, look! That's the kid who becomes the hero of D9!). A prequel makes Blomkamp's involvement more likely, but it would piss off the fanboys who want a Michael Bay orgasm of mech action. While lightning could strike twice, the chances are slim.
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Aug 25, 2009 5:23:26 PM CDT
Neil Blomklamp sound slike a Harry potter character
by takingscorpioscalls
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The Aliens did not look like real aliens. Therefore District9 did not have the sense of 'reality tv' that I look for in a good movie. Real aliens do not have sex with people, and their spaceships should be round, and saucer shaped. Also, I found Wikus's karacter to be unbelievable because he talks without an American accent, they should have had a translater. Also I think he was bad and then good, why can't he just be one or the other, thats bad filmmaking the writers should go back to filmshcool. I could write a better movie if someone gave me more budjet. Also, the shapes of the aliens heads were wrong if they are meant to be worker ants or whatever.
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Also, Starworlf has some valid points and you should obviously listen to what he's written as there are some nuggets in there.
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However, i'll agree that many people regard shitty movies with plotholes as intense failures, but when a good film has plotholes, it's great filmmaking that leave questions for the viewer.
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I could be great, but I really don't think it's necessary. To me, the risk is greater than the reward.
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thank god for peter jackson discovering and promoting talented directors with fresh ideas,telling good stories in original movies,reviving the decaying action scifi cinema,and not whoring out like other directors of the genre,...oh wait...
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but instead of strawberries kim bassinger is force fed cat food.....
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but it was not the creative trailblazer I was led to believe. Still, I'd rather support Peter Jackson and his friends than a bunch of studio execs.
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It was a good movie, and it stands well by itself. It doesn't need a sequel at all either. And also it's nowhere near the best sci-fi film we've had in a while. Moon takes that cake, too bad it doesn't get all the Devin Fatass Faraci hype. I can seriously see Blomkamp becoming the next Cameron though, if he continues.
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together equal the best films of the year. Christopher Waltz is easily one of the best villains of the decade. Alongside Chigurh and Joker.
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all of the sockpuppets.
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in 3...2...1...
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$2 if you replace "Wikus" with "Oprah" every time it occurs...
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It's called Independence Day. Totally unnecessary.
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(Praun emoticon)
that didn't take long did it?
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I can usually spot a plot hole a mile away. All the people poking at the "holes" in D9 are totally wrong. They have obviously never worked in a big company. Yes, they would keep some weapons downtown. Its near the ship, a supply of parts and aliens. You really think governments would want aliens on their land when they can let some other country deal with it, then have a front company do all the work on weapons and then they can steal it? It would also be highly politically difficult for one superpower to convince the world to move the ship to their land from a relatively neutral site. Re: moving the ship: how? are you sure we could get into it without destroying it? Maybe it had security systems. Maybe the goo is refined from dead prawns, or needs to be cultured/grown. Maybe the missles didnt shoot because the ship was reactivated and shut down the missles. The command capsue was never found because I imagine it would be hard to get search forces/sensors into the alien area to do work without all out war/interference. It goes on. Basically there's room for all the plot holes to be logically explained without much stretching. Thanks for playing though!
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I'm not up for another invasion movie either. No sequels please. But, if they did end up making one, with Blomkamp at the helm, I'm pretty confident
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Don't make a sequel. Half of your audience loved the movie because they were blind sided.
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That's why The Hobbit shoot is 370 days...they're writing a District 9 link into JRR Tolkien's children's masterpiece.
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I don't know how many times I have to say this but Neial Blomwhateverhisnameis got the CG of the aliens wrong, they don't look like that.
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Are you aquainted with any actual Prawns? Are they upset with their depiction in the film?
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Aug 25, 2009 10:34:37 PM CDT
Independence Day - Fresh Prince & Lonestar kicks CJ's ass!
by gibsonusa returns
But seriously, District 10 should address the issue of trafficking...aliens should be getting smuggled around the world to be used as pets/slaves/things.
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Listen up, nerds. Peter Jackson has already explained that the Hobbit films will incorporate the many additions and revisions Tolkien made to Bilbo's story after he finished the LOTR.
This includes the LOTR appendix that describes the history of Durin's folk up through the war between the Dwarves & Goblins of Moria, the founding of the Kingdom under the Mountain, its destruction by Smaug, and the tragic fate of Thorin's father.
Tolkien also wrote a short piece called "The Quest of Erebor" which was eventually published in Unfinished Tales. It is essentially a deleted scene near the end of LOTR where Gandalf explains to the remaining fellowship why he initiated the quest to the Lonely Mountain in the first place and how he came to choose Bilbo for the burglar job. It is a roughly five page re-telling of 'The Hobbit' from Gandalf's perspective and contains a lot of interesting details and context that Bilbo was totally unaware of during his journey.
Tolkien's original plan was to literally re-write 'The Hobbit' with this expanded narrative and darker tone to make the transition to LOTR feel more seamless. Though he never did, the published appendices and essays are considered legitimate Middle-Earth 'history' that comes straight from Tolkien himself, I am glad Jackson & Del Toro are willing and able to use them for the films. In fact, I will be pretty disappointed if we don't at least get cameos from Galadriel, Saruman, Lord of the Nazgul and Sauron (aka The Necromancer). -
Then Christopher comes back with a couple ships this time, and they all see first-hand how badly they're being treated. Honestly, I would like to see the planet/us destroyed for once. We are not indestructible!
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There is definately a lot of story to cover there. Hopefully things don't get too dumbed-down
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I would be worried if they were trying to do it all in one film. But two sounds about right to me. I'm guessing the act break will be when Bilbo escapes Gollum with the ring. Or Maybe when Gandalf leaves the company at the edge of Mirkwood.
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if they make it the same way as the first, only this time an all out alien invasion with subtext of shock and awe then hell yes, lets see it!
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Me: The intergalactic travelers were morons.You: No, they were drones! Without guidance from the smart ones they didn't know what to do.Me: What about Christopher Jonson? why didn't he try to contact Earth, or go back to their home planet?You: Ummmmm.....because he didn't used to be smart. he was made smart psychicly over time.Me: Riiight. Yeah that was explained in the film.You: Whadya need to be SPOONFED?Me: Ok fine, let's just say for the sake of argument that it was plain as day that CJ got smart "psychicly" over time. We agree that he's smart during the time of the movie right?You:......yeah...Me: Sooooo....why didn't he tell the drones to revolt, bring down the ship and take off?You:.......You're making a lot of assumptions there.
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Me: What was your biggest problem with AVP?You: Probably that people hatched aliens in 1 hour!Me: But Anderson said in an interview that the Predators had genetically modified the Queen so the aliens would mature faster.You: Yeah, but it wasn't in the FILM!Me: Whadya need to be fucking SPOONFED!?You: Hey......that's different.Me: Yeah? How exactly?You:......oh fuck you man!
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The main aliens in charge come back to Johannesburg to punish and enslave the humans for enslaving their slaves. You see that's just it. The main aliens are not Prawns. They look nothing like them. The Prawns are DNA alterations created from several million various species this master alien race enslaved after they conquered all the systems throughout the known universe.
The master aliens have what is referred to as the All Genetica. The purest form of DNA manipulation in the known universe. Dna combined with this Serum can be altered to replace the hosts original dna with the dna infused into AG Serum. The Prawns were a design choice for workers. The alien master look nothing like them at all not bug like in the least. The alien master have living tissue and machines inside them.
They use Prawn DNA to change all of these slaves into those Prawn looking things because those prawn looking things are the most effective worker type species.
Christopher looks human now. He and his son Ollie took a DNA elixir as they plan to stay on earth. He is looking for Wikus. Wikus is looking for his wife, since the Alien masters are fucking up Jonasberge and turning all the humans into Prawn slaves theres even a sex species slave as well, but it doesn't look like a prawn. Slave owners after racist equality oppressors. This could be interesting.
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Fucking hell!
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Cristpher Johnson comes back as the king of the aliens and his son is now the prince. They have a doomsday devise that they will kill earth with if they dont treat Wikus nicecly and WTFPWN the MNU. Wikus is made into a human again, but a nice one and finds his wife and they are reunited. FADE TO BLACK. FADE UP. C Johnson takes of his mask and is a human, smiles at camera. Now you cant tell me thats not franchize material right there folks. THANKS FOR READING MY SCRIPTMENT!
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Also, dont critiq my english because that not culturally relevant. its the ideas not the speling thats important. i wish they made writing easier for people of my background.
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Aug 25, 2009 11:59:58 PM CDT
OH GOD PLEASE DON'T FUCK UP THE SEQUEL BLOMKAMP!!!!!!
by bringingsexyback
Stay gold man!!!!! If the shoe don't fit you must quit!!!!
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Case and point...Star Wars movies. The events of the prequels make Obi Wan either a batty old mad or a lying sack of shit. Leia too for that matter. Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing anything these directors come up with. A strong voice and a good point of view is hard to come by in Hollywood these days.
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Can't directs do their movies in the right order these days?? I'm sick of back stories. Star Wars nailed the prequel coffin shut long ago, don't go digging up dead prequel bodies. Here is how to count: 1,2,3,4,5,6.... etc. NOT 2,4,3,1,ABC,-1. Prequels suck balls. Our Imaginations get red bums everytime by prequels is created by a dyslexic arse monster.
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Some people criticize that the main alien is named, Christopher Johnson. I think the humans assigned names to all the aliens.
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Go outside the realms of the district. The D9 world should open up now. It has set up a tail, now it is time to create something bigger, broader... The prawn & his son left this world & will be back in 3 years. They should come back with an army. They see how the humans have treated the prawns in District 10 & then wage war against the humans. It can set beyond District 10... Set partly in space, battles accross other parts of the globe, even set it on the alien homeworld. Lots & lots of options...
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than a sequel to this tragic alternative to a potentially awesome halo movie. District 9 is meant to be Alien nation Vs the Fly,and i get the merits in the attempt, but even Ronald Ryan's execution would have been more interesting to watch than this. I wanted to leave the theater after 30 minutes just to relieve my boredom.
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You seem right on my wavelength man. I mean WTF with all this cinemaverite crap eh? Distric9 was about the most boring movie I've seen all year. Too much talking and not enough action. See what they needed is for the prawns to be invading with laserguns and Wikus should have been a marine, played by Cena, with a really good actress like Jeniffer Love Hewitt. Now that would have been a much better movie - and ready for a franchise. Instead they waste money on this crap with no name actors who look like they couldnt even lift an AK47 proper.
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Aug 26, 2009 1:09:30 AM CDT
Herc's been taken over by robots in the Entertainment Weekly TB
by badmrwonka
Spread the word and see for yourself...
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I agree with you, D9 is very overrated, the plot is just terribly stupid. It's not a sci-fi movie by a longshot, it's just fantasy, very stupid fantasy. Oooh it's got social commentary, so it's gotta be good, amirite? I'm sure many cretins and imbecils think so. Maybe if D9 adhered to a tangible human reality, then the social critique would be valid, but no human in that movie acted like a real human would. They all acted like IDIOTS, and I bet that's why so many idiots on the talkback felt identified with the characters. We are in luck that the mayority of people are not idiots, so D9 will not be remembered as anything more than an attempt to make a movie about idiotic humans and idiotic bugs in southafrica. Any point the movie was trying to make fell face down into failure. Social commentary my ass. I was not entertained by it, and actually think it's pretty close to transformers 2 stupid, without the fancy cgi. Face it, the 30 million cgi was crap, looked like some kid with aftereffects and lightwave 4 on amiga did that shit. Fanboys should look up the word "quality" cgi. Youtube is filled with amateur cgi like that. kids do that shit on their pc ffs. And now they want a sequel, what a surprise. I'm sure it will be just as shitty as the first, so maybe by then the retarded people who liked it can take their halfwit children to see it. I hope you choke on the popcorn, you twats! Just kidding, i loved D9 btw hahaha
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Blomkamp said that, in shooting a lot of scenes improvisationally, they were left with hours of deleted scenes, enough for an expanded "documentary" about the Prawns' arrival, their living conditions, and speculation on their true nature. From there, a sequel could be spectacular, with the "three years" being the three acts. I. The prawn population in D10 is swelling, while the search continues there for Wiku, who has perhaps become a leader in the growing prawn resistance. As the aliens' hive mind and their intelligence redevelops, the prawns have adopted new methods to communicate with, assimilate, and resist the humans. II. Wiku is captured and what he tells them, that the mother ship went to get help, sets the whole world on a war footing. Some prawns, the majority of whom were born and raised on Earth, are recruited into an MNU division, with the idea that they would fight against an invasion using existing alien weapons tech, but trust on both sides is proving difficult. Other, darker experiments press on, mutating the prawns and humans into "unclean" cybertech. III. District 10 has become an urban war zone, and reports of rogue alien "terrorists" now worldwide. Fear and hysteria are at a fever pitch as the world awaits an invasion expected in 2012. When Christopher Johnson does finally return, nothing turns out to be as humans and have prawns thought them to be. Any way, I'm sure an even better story could be told in this universe, just saying that it's fertile ground.
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I thought AIC was for intelligent filmlovers to gather, geek out and talkback, celebrating what makes films special to each of us. That said, it's perplexing how someone can rag on a film they obviously didn't care for with inane, mindless comments that sound like they were locked in a room watching mainstream dribbel. No names.... But filmmakers with imagination, those capable of knocking on Hollywood's door with original visions, can render an alien's head any way they damn well please.
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I'd love to see a sequel! I loved D9!
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No 'almost' about it. It's more than a year.
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I was but a small boy when I saw AICN as it once was, before the dark times, before the empire. It was a time when the intellectual Illuminati could crowd around the internet, and talk about their favourite films that the plebians hated, and escape the bullying that they would otherwise be subjected to for speaking out about their most loved films. But eventually, George Lucas got off his ass and released the phantom menace. At this point, those AICN readers, struggling to cope with the fact that their childhood had been raped, became bitter, and they began, sadly, to use AICN to express their collective frustration when their movie ticket purchase failed them. Why, oh why...
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...actually, Tolkien did re-write the Hobbit to fall completely inline with the later LoTR. After giving it to a trusted friend to review, she said it was wonderful but it was no longer The Hobbit. Tolkien forgot about the whole notion of publishing that final edition after that.Nice synopsis and I can't think of anything you didn't cover. In fact, I think that would be a great way to start the movie by having Gandalf relate the Quest of Erebor.Sigh, three years is a long time to wait for a D-9 sequel but my money says it'll be worth it. Come back Christopher, we hardly knew ya!
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The PrawnDaddy and PrawnSon come back with an alien armada and force the humans into concentration camps?
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D10: Dawn of the Prawns
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Those were some good ideas. i could see that. One thing that is kinda dumb about D(, though -- if the Prawns can literally rip people limb from limb and have access to all of this awesome weaponry, why didn't they rise up and kill the humans already anyway? Because they lacked a hivemind leader? I dunno. Seems... weak. But, yeah, I really liked the movie too. Solid genre offering with some really cool moments. I wish the social commentary were a little more emphasized and the "umpteenth person exploding" a little more de-emphasized.
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Deshelling your eyeballs in '10!!!!
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Aug 26, 2009 7:16:14 AM CDT
I FEEL HEARTBROKEN FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN REFUGEE CAMPS
by bringingsexyback
Shrimps too.
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Who'd driving the bandwagon this time?
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Aug 26, 2009 7:18:47 AM CDT
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT INTERROGATION SCENE FROM THE TRAILER?
by bringingsexyback
They forgot to put it in the movie!!!
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Aug 26, 2009 7:20:48 AM CDT
DO THE PRAWNS HAVE DEATH PANELS ON THEIR PLANET TOO?
by bringingsexyback
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I'd hate to see them make it a ID4 type of movie...How about it's set 10+ years later and the prawns have intergrated into society because of Wikus or soemthing? Do they want to actually go home now? Would Wikus want to go back to being a human if he was suddenly the Prawns 'savior' on Earth?D9 felt original, so I'd hate to see the sequel become Blair Witch 2.
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I agree that the fuel/DNA alteration substance was kind of silly. What would have been more elegant is if Wikus had contaminated himself while bumbling around the one little nest he destroyed. Seems the most likely place to come into contact with a substance naturally designed to facilitate species development. Perfect, no. But it works and adds a bit of irony. The fuel canister could have been found separately and confiscated.
As for the treatment of the Prawn, I'm sure it was much better at first, but it's been 20-some odd years. The novelty had worn off as people became increasingly aware that the Prawn were barely sentient. With no personal stories to 'humanize' them, they probably would have dropped off the radar rather quickly (several years) as far as popular opinion goes.
As for tech harvesting. Who is to say it isn't going on? There could be hundreds of researchers on board that ship as CJ retakes it. It is never covered, nor is it required as it is beyond the scope of the story. The major powers could have already had batches of Prawns and Prawn weaponry taken back to their respective countries for research.
However, it is equally likely that an international treaty was established to prevent the exploitation of the tech, as any country mastering it would have a huge military advantage over the others. Given the hate for the U.S. and their likely hood of getting the first breakthroughs (due to resources if nothing else), I could easily see a non-exploitation treaty. This makes MNU's experiments even dirtier as they are in violation of an international treaty, which of course makes the information much more valuable.
Going back to the Prawn and their hierarchy, there are a number of easy sci-fi ways to explain them. Just because they are bug-like and seem to have some familiar hive-like behavior doesn't mean they can be directly compared to any of our native species. Maybe there is a ruling caste that can co-operate psychically to influence the drones. Maybe it takes several or hundreds to control a population of that size. Maybe only a few (CJ included) survived the disease or whatever disaster befell the ship.
You can go on all day and create something to easily mitigate most of the 'real-world' criticisms of this movie. That's not to say it isn't without flaws, but ultimately they are minor ones if you just use you imagination a little.
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Another original movie. I'd pay money to go see that.
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>The Prawns who were smart, like the one who helped Vickers, had to keep quiet about it.
Why? After WW II, Nazi scientists who cooperated with the Soviets and Americans were very well treated indeed. Heck, the Americans even paid big money to the Japanese for data from their infamous 'medical research' labs. The intelligent aliens would be able to write their own ticket. "Help us get back off this rock, and we'll give you all the tech we can." No reason to remain quiet.
> are you sure we could get into it without destroying it?
They used a CUTTING TORCH to get in at the beginning. Ship's still up there twenty years later. Obviously it wasn't destroyed. -
I think there should be a sequal because the ending was very fucked up. Vikus totally trnasformed and left behind while christopher and his son found a new place for his people to live. Hopefully in the sequal christopher becomes king and gets his people back on the ship, while the humans try to stop him from taking them because they feel like they own them. and finding vitkus anc changing him back but also giving him the ability to use alien weapons and technology and have all the information in his head, would be awesome!
But here's my question, if you have a very nice piece of alien tech laying there at your feet and it does not work because it is ID locked. Why not open the weapons up. Figure out how it works and reverse engineer it!
Also the ID lock. The same thing happened on SGA where the technology they isolated the ancient gene and applied it to the soliders so they can use the tech?
WTF why didnt they do that here? All the aliens you got around and you cant figure that out?! WTF?
I mean that would have been the first thing I would have done. Dumbasses. -
Are the same people saying D9 was awesome.....wait for it.....BECAUSE IT WAS SO ORIGINAL! Irony much?
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Well the ending of D9 just begs for a sequel. They question is do the shrimps return in peace or for vengence?
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They seemed about as smart as most college kids at Spring Break. Despite the want to clasify them as a sub-species with limited intelligence, we treat them as normal sentient beings. C'est la vie!
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Others here can correct me, but at the Chicago screening, I think the director said he was more interested in doing a prequel. He said there was a lot of crazy shit inside the mothership when the humans first went into it.
I think most of us can agree this movie was above the level of the typical sci fi fare we get. I for one want to support this directors work in the 'hope' that we get more fun films. -
You: What was your biggest problem with AVP?
Me: Probably that people hatched aliens in 1 hour!
You: But Anderson said in an interview that the Predators had genetically modified the Queen so the aliens would mature faster.
Me: Yeah, but it wasn't in the FILM!
You: Whadya need to be fucking SPOONFED!?
Me: Hey......that's different.
You: Yeah? How exactly?
Me: Because the alien lifecycle was established by 4 previous films which the director could reasonably expect most of the audience to have seen before viewing his film.
You:...
Me:...still working it through?
You:...
Me:...
You:...fuck you
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And ask if he can take Ghost in the Shell of his hands... I can picture him setting it in Japan with an asian cast and making something extraordinarily cool out of it! His grungy style of mixing urban reality with futuristic tomfoolery is perfect for it! DO IT NEILL!!! DO IT!!!
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Guess I missed the Predators using the aliens for training in the 4 previous alien films. *eyeroll*
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Guess they should've retitled the film "Genetically engineered animals that resemble the Aliens vs. Predators" then...
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Guess District 9 should have been retitled "Insect drone space travelers that psychicly smarten other insect guy" then.
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Jim Cameron LOVED AVP. He said so in an interview for this very site.
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Because I thought D9 was original, I can't want a sequel?They could do ... wait for it... an original story and still have it set in the world of D9.Or a continuation of the story, which would still keep it original.Just don't give us a retread or some lame ass prequel.Why the fuck do I want to find out what happened before when I know what happens at the end.
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Someone must have said that already.
I then a sequel would be neat. Chritopher would not be the leader of the rescue group automatically. Maybe a 'queen' is born in the slums and the humans try to take care of her and make her ally with them. More Sci Fi movies please. -
Go rent Alien Nation and then come back and tell me how original D9 is.For the record I have nothing against D9, it's just not original or some kind of groundbreaking film in any capacity.I just think it's funny that so many are going "Man I'm so sick of sequels! Thank god D9 is so original. They should make 20 more of those!"
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1. Americans were not prominent in the film. (I love my country but that isn't typical)
2. CGI creatures that were not shown at night during a rain storm. (Ok several movies have broken away from that)
3. A large swath of the dialogue was improbed. You can tell.
4. Use of documentary but not a Cloverfield clone.
I think there were some unique characteristics that made this film feel fresher then the other sci-fi films we typically get.
The movie felling unique is going to be an opinion, it is an argument that can't be won.
I am glad you enjoyed it anyway Fett. Can we agree we need more above average sci fi films. :) -
1. Americans were not prominent in the film. (I love my country but that isn't typical)
2. CGI creatures that were not shown at night during a rain storm. (Ok several movies have broken away from that)
3. A large swath of the dialogue was improbed. You can tell.
4. Use of documentary but not a Cloverfield clone.
I think there were some unique characteristics that made this film feel fresher then the other sci-fi films we typically get.
The movie felling unique is going to be an opinion, it is an argument that can't be won.
I am glad you enjoyed it anyway Fett. Can we agree we need more above average sci fi films. :) -
and the poor grammer.
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The reason I would've changed the AVP title is because it deviated from established canon. Since District 9 had none, there's no need to change the title, see?Do you really go into sequels accepting that everything you already know from previous movies can be changed without explanation?
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So it really pissed you off that the Aliens in Jim Cameron's Aliens look different than the ones in Ridley's? How about the fact that the aliens were part of a hive that had a Queen? How about the dog-alien in Alien 3? Do you see what I'm getting at here? Just because something HASN'T BEEN REVEALED YET, doesn't mean it's "not part of established canon". The fact that the Aliens have been genetically modified by the Predators for hunting purposes wasn't in the previous films.....because Predators weren't hunting Aliens in the previous films. Honestly, this is brain surgery?And if you are saying that needs to be SPOONFED to you in the film itself, then you are a hypocrit.
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None of the things you mention with the Alien sequels contradicts anything that was established in the previous films (Except perhaps the look of the aliens in Aliens, which I didn't know was any different), unlike the changes made in AVP.You have no previous experience with the aliens in District 9 so you have no basis for saying how they should behave, unlike in AVP where 6 previous movies not only setup the aliens as having a specific lifecycle, but also the Predators as a species of hunters that go after alien species in that alien's natural habitat. That doesn't mean you can't have a sequel where Predators genetically engineer Aliens with different lifecycles for training purposes, but I don't see how you can expect the audience to simply accept that or to somehow fill in the blanks when they've been given conflicting information in the past.Different situations. Totally different.
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Is that it is NEVER ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED! There IS NO timeframe for how long it takes.How long does it take exactly Killdozer? You seem to be the expert on the lifecycle of the Alien. I assume you can back this up with mentions of time in previous films?But that's BESIDES THE POINT anyway because there IS NO EXPERIENCE with genetically altered Aliens in the previous films. Why, oh why, can't you get that?If you watch the Director's Cut of Alien, the WARRIORS ARE CLEARLY LAYING THE EGGS, which completely invalidates Aliens.So your criticism of AVP is PRECISELY THE SAME as my criticisms of D9.You want an example of CONFLICTING INFORMATION in District 9? How about they are all too stupid to operate their own ship.....except for the one who can....and he decided not to do so until the end of the movie? I think that definitely qualifies as "conflicting information".
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I know the money wants it, but don't give in to the dark side. You just made a fantastic, imaginative, and completely satisfying movie, one of the best in years.
Don't fall into the trap of trying to stretch a great idea which smartly leaves a few mysteries behind even though its completely self-contained, story-wise. It doesnt need it! Use your awesome brain on a new idea which we haven't even begun to imagine yet! Don't be a Corscarelli, with years wasted in between classics making needless sequels! -
Sorry I saw a weak script which wasn't improved by a rookie director who couldn't see the flaws. A wasted opportunity which 'might' be corrected with a sharper sequel.
The current praise I believe is because of the unusual material, and 'not' because it was well done. It wasn't. There were endless ludicrous points (such as liquid rocket fuel which conveniently also changes humans into aliens? human operates an alien robot first time like a pro?
liquid fuel for a starship?) Unfortunately I got hung up on several of these points and I get annoyed. I wish sometimes that the finished film is shown to a neutral audience who criticizes it, and then they actually fix the film based on those comments before it is released. Can this ever happen?
Anyway I hope the sequel is better. -
Regardless of their not being a specific gestation period put forth in the 4 alien movies it's still a hell of a lot longer than is shown in AVP. Watch them again.And I do get that there is no experience with genetically altered Aliens in the first 4 films which is why it's lame to change things in AVP and not explain why. As I've said repeatedly, we all had experience with these species before AVP which is why major deviations need explanation, why oh why can't you get that?Also, take a look at when the Director's Cut of Alien was released. Is there some form of time travel that would allow Future-James-Cameron to travel back in time and help his past self alter the Aliens script to match a cut of a film made to sell a DVD set? Scott even says in an interview "I cut those scenes back in 1979 for a reason."And your final criticism of District 9 shows, yet again, that you weren't paying attention. It took Christopher Johnson 20 years to design and execute a system for refining the fluid needed to power the ship. It's pretty clear in the movie he had intended to collect more until MNU's forced eviction moved up the timeline. Watch it again.
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The gestation period VARIES WIDELY in all 4 films. Kane's gestation period in the first film could be an hour for all we know. It certainly wasn't what appears to be several weeks in Aliens since colonists wewre still chest bursting after the marines got there! Are you pissed at Cameron about that? Of course not! Then in Alien 3 Sigourney seems to be pregnant with the thing for a day or two. Well that doesn't jibe with either of the first two films does it? Particularly since the dog seems to hatch the dog alien in a couple of hours. In Alien Resurrection they seem to hatch even quicker than in AVP!But see it's "kewl" to shit on AVP. And believe me I'm not defending AVP. I'm just pointing out your own hypocrisy.So the idea that AVP somehow violated some sacred rule is total and complete HORSESHIT!
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its worthless to argue with fett about this movie. He just wants everyone to admit that they are idiots for enjoying this movie and saying it was the best sci fi movie that came out this summer. He apparently just wants to roll into tbs and be a big rain cloud. I feel sorry for him that he watched avp. That would make me a bitter fanboy as well.
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I thought Tolkien only re-wrote about a chapter or so. I believe the friend he gave it to was his typist/secretary who had worked with him for many years. Probably a wise decision to leave it abandon it, but I'd love to read it.
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It was about telling a good story. Which it did. The implementation was very well done, even if most of it had been done before in other ways. Compare to a bad movie, or even an ok one, and you can see all they put into it. A sequel isn't needed, the story was fine the way it was presented, anything else may just screw it all up. I could be wrong, sequels could enhance things, but the story's been told, accept it as it is. Why must Hollywood ruin everything that has any promise, and run it into the ground until it's left a shallow husk of it's former self?
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...none of us may ever get to read Tolkien's re-write but I think we're about to see it on the Big Screen.
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If the lifecycle in AVP wasn't shorter than the other films we wouldn't even be having this discussion and Anderson never would've said this "the machine that the Predators built to house the Queen pumps her full of hormones that accelerate the birth of the creatures. If we'd seen the REAL film, we'd know that." in an interview while complaining about studio cuts to his movie. (http://tinyurl.com/mpnb6k)You see, even he understands you can't change existing canon without a good (or in this case, a shitty) explanation)Also, I don't think it's cool to shit on AVP I just think it's appropriate since it *was* shit.I'm done.
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Only an idiot would say that since anyone with a fucking brain stem knows that was Moon. Notice nobody's complaining about plot holes in THAT movie, but LOTS of people are complaining about plot holes in D9.Killdozer, thanks for finding the evidence that completely destroys your argument. According to you, if a director explains something in an interview, but it isn't in a film, then it isn't a plot hole. You want to complain about "plot holes" in AVP, even though the director explained it in an interview, but not District 9. Apparently you NEED to be "spoonfed" for AVP, but not District 9. Ergo HYPOCRIT!
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and not the other Alien films regarding gestation period...is because it was directed by Apul Anderson. Hell, this site led the charge against him as soon as it was announced! So they were looking for shit to whine about from the get-go! The original script review talked about what total shit it was...but a lot of us here thought it sounded cool. Ultimately I thought it was a good story that apparently stayed very close to the Dark Horse comic series.AVP grossed more worldwide than any Alien OR Predator film, so I guess he got it about right.
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Aug 27, 2009 10:00:03 AM CDT
Will Pras be singing about aliens in refugee camps in the sequel
by mrmysteryguest
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and this is 2 films in 2 months. I can't imagine 370.
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