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UPDATE!! The AVATAR Teaser Is Here!!

Merrick once more... Apple seems to have resolved their issues. The AVATAR trailer is (easily and actually) available in all kinds of Glorious QuickTime...

HERE!!!





Merrick again, again... If you're getting boned at Apple, the French version of the trailer can be found...

HERE!!!

Its exactly the same at the U.S. version, except it's not in QT & for one line of dialogue (dubbed into French) which translates to "This is great."



Merrick again... There seems to be some funkiness with the apple site. Here are two links to HD versions of the trailer. We'll update again when everything's sorted out on Apple.

720



1080





Merrick here...
More in a moment. Watch it in Glorious QuickTime...

HERE!!!



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  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Eh

    by apollocandy

    Not impressed

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    And...............

    by Lashlarue

    it doesn't work.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    It's quite nice

    by ultrakev69

    My eyes are lying back smoking a cig right now feeling quite buzzy.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    apple site not working

    by rajium32

    the whole trailers site is down and out.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    they dont work

    by richardphilip

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    This link worked for me

    by apollocandy

    http://www.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_720p.mov

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Wat?

    by MrDuke118

    Looks like a Warcraft players wet dream. Judgment reserved

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    My eyes

    by EGOvoruhk

    The goggles do nothing

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    This one actually works

    by louisse

    http://specials.divertissements.fr.msn.com/cinema/avatar/default.aspx

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Alright, suppose

    by TheBoyFromUlster

    Looks alright, defo be there front and centre when it opens in December but for me Cameron will never, ever beat Aliens. Thats the film that made me fall in love with cinema....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    STILL NOT WORKING...

    by maliswan

    what am I doing wrong?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Here's a link to a working trailer

    by DrunkyMcLush

    it's 720P: http://www.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_720p.mov

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    ...all I get is "?"

    by FlickaPoo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    #11

    by JeffManSixtyFo

    Heh

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    French MSN works

    by santoanderson

    http://specials.divertissements.fr.msn.com/cinema/avatar/default.aspx

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Yup, all the signs are there

    by kwisatzhaderach

    for another Cameron classic. The music is fucking cool too.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    can't get it to work

    by kafox

    very sad, but I enjoyed the leaked trailer yesterday, stunning.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    some sort of error getting the HD version. gay.

    by Mysterious_Volvo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    more website fail....

    by intersect

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Trailer Site Fucked

    by mordorclaw

    Yet again...The avatar web team fails. Useless fucks. I think they are just trying to alienate the fan base. Lame.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Way to go Apple

    by Dublin579

    Epic Fail etc. Why bother having the big countdown thing at all?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    not working

    by DioxholsterUnbound

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    less than impressive

    by StovetopStuffin'

    looks like the stereoscopic 3d aspect is what will be it's selling point.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    they broke the internet!

    by ilander66

    not workin not workin come on come on!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    EPIC FAIL

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    JAR JAR AVATAR <P>FUCK YEAH <P>400 million dollar FURY CARTOON: The Movie<P>LOOK LIKE SHIT<P>LMAO

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    ...fuck this. Those stills made my eyes sleepy, not horny.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    ah, maybe the "?" IS the trailer....

    by intersect

    Genius!!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    alvin and the chipmunks squeakquel was better

    by JeffManSixtyFo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    10,000 B.C In Blue

    by Marcus1138x

    Love it! Can't wait for the 15 minutes tomorrow!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    What's the point of having a countdown...

    by AJD_1

    ...if the damn thing doesn't work!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    AVATAR is a hoax. There is no AVATAR.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Love it.

    by SeanMiller

    The music totally made the trailer. The Navi look a little stupid at first, but so did the aliens in District 9. After watching the preview multiple times they look less dumb. The action looks to be amazing though. I love that the marines are taken right out of Aliens. No need to reinvent the colonial marines. Maybe Avatar and Aliens takes place in the same universe?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    IT'S NOT FUCKING WORKING.

    by --- Emperor ---

    WORTHLESS FUCKING RETARDS. FIX THE FUCKING BULLSHIT AT ONCE YOU INCOMPETENT RATS.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    WOW! That trailer was........................................

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    http://tinyurl.com/l645xf

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    by santoanderson

    http://images.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_h1080p.mov

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Welp...

    by xcornealiousx

    Looks pretty fantastic, but is it just me, or do the Na'vi look .. slightly CGI...as in I just thought it'd look more realistic. Im sure itll be awesome though. The action sequences looked amazing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    20 mill opening weekend. Tops.

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    Tank.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Wow the haters are out already huh?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Back...back to your Abrams/Bay/McG shit. The moment where Worthington smiles at his avatar tells you all you need to know, you're in the hands of someone that actually know how to make films.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Underwhelmed

    by dastickboy

    I know it's a teaser, but the lack of dialogue was a bit worrying. Otherwise it was...a hollywood sci-fi film. Maybe this thing only comes to life in 3D?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    My first thought - oh shit, Cameron's gone Lucas on us.

    by JuanSanchez

    WTF? The alien action looks like a weird CG kids movie. My enthusiasm level has dropped to zero. James - let me know when you plan to make movies with people again.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    EGOvoruhk

    by Vote Fa Stokes Brutha

    Haha, thanks for the laugh. Yeah, this is a buzzkill. Where dat trailer at? I'll be patient. www.agenesisfound.com

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    1080P . . . . . .and it still sucks

    by jjensen9971

    nope.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Okay, so they've screwed up tickets AND the trailer now

    by SnowDogs

    I'm starting to get pissed at this movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    JUST AS I FUCKIN' FEARED

    by Ashen Shugar

    This is it. We now all know the truth. This is ugly as shit, CG everywhere, this is Final Fantasy Spirits Within only 1000 times uglier, there is the same eyeball problem than those Zemeckis shites, thank god Rothman is going down with this but fuck it Jim, you should have realised that you had no taste and use some Rick Baker here and there. THIS IS INSANELY UGLY, and yes MSN works, not Glorious quicktime...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    720p . . . . . . . . .and it really sucks

    by jjensen9971

    sorry.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    WORKING 1080P!!!!

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    http://tinyurl.com/mpgyzy <P> PLACE THE LINK IN PLAYER

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    MotoWhateverYourNameIs

    by chuffsterUK

    ...I doubt many people will notice much eyeball fucking come December is this laughable trailer is anything to go by!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    saw it on the french msn

    by Chagui

    and I have one question to ask. That's the trailer for the videogame, right? right? because that can't be the real trailer, it simply cannot, it's so fucking cartoony its laughable!!! please let this be a hoax, a prank, this movie, from what I've seen in the teaser, cannot be this cartoony, come on JC, you can't be serious with this!!! fuck, no way you're raping my eyeballs with that limp, flacid, little, miniature cock of a teaser. Expectations checked.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Very dissapointing.....

    by simongarth2001

    ...Looks like an xbox 360 game. i guess we've come as far as cgi can go....cause this SURE doesn't look photo realistic!!! At least the story should be ok, coming from cameron....but not impressed at all by the graphics.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Reminds me of Titan AE...

    by JuanSanchez

    Too action heavy and adult for little kids, too cartoony for adults.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    YUS!

    by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet

    thanks.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    fucking hell fire

    by richardphilip

    brilliant. tomorrow night cant come soon enough for me.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Um...not so much "game changing"

    by Photoman

    Are these just test shots or something in this trailer? They can't be the actual, finished, fully rendered shots...right? Because if they are, I gotta tell you, this looks like any other CGI movie I've seen in the past 5 or 6 years. I read the script like 10 years ago and it looks like they're following it pretty close from what I can see in the teaser. But come on, this is NOT anything game changing and my eyeballs were NOT fucked. Seriously...the CGI almost bordered on just plain run-of-the-mill stuff.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    1080P on a 62" Plasma . . . . . .on it still REALLY REALLY sucks

    by jjensen9971

    I'll try on my itouch now . . ..

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Ahhhhhh, let the hate flow.

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    Epic disaster.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    I kinda feel like Juan here

    by xcornealiousx

    I just DON'T get how District 9 looked SO realistic for $30 mill, yet Lucas and Cameron spend WAy more, and get a less realistic view.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    720 link is working

    by cool_britannia79

    just takes a while to buffer

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    looks nice enough

    by torontoxic

    Dunno what the insane fanboyism is over. I'll watch it when it comes out.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    of course its gonna look CG

    by intersect

    sigh... looking for something to hate, you will always find

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    it took them three years!!!!!

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    to make a cartoon!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    To All you haters out there...

    by Dead_Geek

    ... This film will be a big stinking pile of horse Sh*t!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    CG in Episode III was far better.

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    This looks fucking horrible.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Clunk! Not workin. Ah..technology.

    by brock landers baby

    Fucking shite.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    NOTHING WORKS

    by Kaiser Soze

    Okay, I tried each of the HD trailers (480, 720, 1080), and they tell me they're not files that Quicktime understands. So I try the standard def. and get a broken link symbol. So I tried a couple of the posted "this page works" links and all I get is a frozen green preview screen. I don't know about my eyeballs, but I feel fucked right now.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Tired of this cliche

    by kingink123

    Does EVERY CG creature have to strike a pose and roar before attacking? It's almost as irritating as hearing the wilhelm scream for the thousandth time in a movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Eyeball rape it is not! but it harrassed my eyeballs

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    more like Eyeball harassment

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Why do these big directors...

    by JuanSanchez

    want to work with CG characters instead of actors? Lucas, Zemekis, now Cameron, soon Jackson and Spielberg. What's the deal? Actors just don't get close enough to their vision anymore?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    The new Pixar movie looks great. !

    by Georges Bouche

    Is there a Randy Newman song about Space Marines ?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    the shark is working, over.

    by illegaltouching

    the boat is sinking, over.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    No good on the itouch either . . .. . guess I'll just go watch I

    by jjensen9971

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Looks fucking stupid - like Napolean Dynomite characters

    by Professor_Monster

    I never understood the appeal of animal/people - and having them fly around on big bugs - nope not for me

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Teaser for the game? Please!!

    by Sagart1994

    Come on!! Tell me that was the teaser for the PS3 Avatar game cause if THAT'S what we've been waiting for... Very disappointed. And kwisatzhaderach? "The moment where Worthington smiles at his avatar tells you all you need to know, you're in the hands of someone that actually know how to make films." WHAT??? Sorry, but that's the silliest thing I've heard in a long, long time.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    looks Like Ferngully the last rainforest

    by ilander66

    quite nice but.....not the eyeball mashing its been built up to be

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    I will settle for 720

    by Vote Fa Stokes Brutha

    Brand loyalty for apple sucks, but I must be honest with myself. www.agenesisfound.com

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    720 doesn't work!

    by Vote Fa Stokes Brutha

    snap

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Hmmm.

    by adolfwolfli

    Not immediately impressed. I love James Cameron, but in the 15 years or so since he's made a sci-fi film, the design of sci-fi films has evolved. This looks very 90s to my eyes. I was thinking it'd looks more slick and sophisticated, but it's looking a little video-gamish and kids-film-like. But, it's just a trailer. I'm sure as an experience it'll be pretty amazing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Is this Toy Story 3-D?

    by RainesMaker

    The new toys look great

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    finally worked, looks amazing

    by kafox

    I'm excited to see how this looks on the big screen in 3D.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Not a hater, was just expecting more from the hype

    by Photoman

    Hopefully it will be one of those things where the story will make you forget you're watching some run-of-the-mill CGI. Just because it looks plain and ordinary doesn't mean that the movie will be. We'll have to see when it comes out.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    This is a non-QT link:

    by YackBacker

    http://avatar.substance001.info/

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    So we waited 12 years...

    by Captain_James_T_Stubbs

    And all we got was Star Wars Episode 1 but with more mechanical robots? FUCK YOU CAMERON

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    It's that this was billed as a game-changer...

    by JuanSanchez

    If it was just some random movie it would be one thing - this is a highly anticipated James Cameron film long in development and production that Cameron has built up as something truly groundbreaking. That's why it's being judged harshly.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Do I need to see Delgo first

    by Series7

    To understand this sequel?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Navi design

    by RainesMaker

    something about their faces looks ridiculious... its adding to the cartoonishness

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    WORKING QUICKTIME HD 1080P!!!!

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    http://tinyurl.com/mpgyzy PLACE THE LINK IN PLAYER

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    "Photo-real?" Ok - if you say so JC.

    by sevadro

    You do know what "photo-real" means? Because these aliens are about as photo-real as The Hulk. Still want to see it, but don't give me crap and call it caviar.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Look at the mechs...

    by Ashen Shugar

    Remember Matrix revolutions ??? Much much better photorealistic looking in this old steampile of shite, and don't tell me it was easier in a tech environment than in the Jungle, we are three years later.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    There's a lot of estrogen in this board...

    by DrunkyMcLush

    Go clean the sand out of your vaginas and stop your bitching. Boo-fucking-who. Hating a movie based on 2 minutes of footage? REALLY?? Bitch as much as you want, the world will still continue to spin and the movie will still exist.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    To Kaiser Soze

    by --- Emperor ---

    Download real player (it's free)...Then go back to the "frozen green preview screens", and instead of waiting for it to load, simply click "download with realplayer"...You will see the blue download screen if you scroll the mouse to the top right of the green strip...It works great for many embedded clips...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    looks amazing

    by lumberjaw

    I don't know what the haters are talking about... like what kind of movie were you expecting??? Why hate on a movie like this? GO AWAY WHINERS.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Sagart1994

    by kwisatzhaderach

    What I meant is that there is clearly an element of wonder in the film... something I haven't seen in a film for years.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    So James Cameron

    by Series7

    Was the one that paid money to stop Delgo from being seen.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    JuanSanchez

    by SminkyPinky

    I'm with you on part of your argument, but the point of using CG is to create convincing characters that are not simply just a man in a suit - and using mo-cap utilises an actor's performance, not just key frame animation. However, yep, the N'avi, while they look nice in terms of design, don't look like the photoreal characters Cameron said he was doing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    i'm not sold on the art style

    by cool_britannia79

    that looked like gungans in some places

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    when Worthington gets off the transport ship in the wheelchair..

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    ....check out that CG guy inside the mech-suit on the left of the frame. Fucking horrible.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    lumberjaw

    by kwisatzhaderach

    They're upset its not up to the standards of Transformers 2, Star Trek and Terminator: Salvation.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    OH MY GOD!

    by mastes360

    That was incredible imo, breathtaking. I love the build up music in the trailer, it makes the film look epic. I bet we still get some haters though, it is AICN afterall.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    District 9 looked more real on a 30 million dollar budget!

    by blackmantis

    Cameron made the mistake of making his shots too beautiful, to the point that they look phony. Not impressed.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    First of all, it's only a movie so fucking relax

    by YackBacker

    Winning the Lotto, fucking a supermodel, being elected President... those are game changers for a person. Seeing a movie is simply giving 2 hrs of yourself for a diversion. So... relax.<p> Second, it's a fucking teaser. So, anyone saying this movie is shit already is entitled to their opinion, but it's not based on much substance at all. <p> Personally, I think the Na'vi CG looks silly in places. But then 99% of CG is silly in my book. Newsflash: None of this shit is real.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Photoreal if you took pictures of your game screen

    by Brosefulae

    Then yeah...it's photo real.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Two words: computer game

    by BenBraddock

    Sorry but I expected something...more. I'm tired of dodgy CGI creatures inhabiting dodgy CGI worlds, and this isn't, by the looks of things, going to be the one to change all of that after all. Despite the hype. Shame.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    However...

    by SminkyPinky

    I am still very much looking forward to seeing the film. I hope the story is good, as it should be. Story front and centre, it's method of execution as invisible as it can be.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    STARGATE UNIVERSE will be much better looking than this!

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    MARK MY WORDS!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    The look is good. Movement and acting?...ok I guess.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    lumberjaw: We were looking for something "Game Changing"

    by Photoman

    That's what Cameron told us. This movie is going to "change everything". "Your eyeballs are going to be fucked" blah blah blah. If Cameron and everyone involved had just kept their fucking mouths shut and just released the movie without all the hyperbole, it may have been okay. But THIS?!?! Come on....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    I wasn't the one claiming it would be a game-changer...

    by JuanSanchez

    that was Cameron - and he has to answer for the disappointment.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Yackbacker

    by Brosefulae

    Don't bitch at people who are pointing out how fake it looks. If Cameron hadn't made this into something it's not, none of these comments would exist. He deserves every bit of it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    480, 720 and 1080 trailers...

    by REAL6

    That work!!! http://images.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_h480p .mov http://images.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_h720p .mov http://images.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_h1080 p.mov

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    okeyyy...

    by Graffelaff

    cant wait to see some Avatar porn, hehe :)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Game Changer

    by SminkyPinky

    When Cameron said "game changer" I think he was speaking in terms of the industry, not altering an permanently audience member's perception.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    mastes360

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Exactly. That music as the gunship flies past the floating mountains... if that doesn't get to you there really is no hope. Expert teaser in my book.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    I usual LOATH THE TB HATERS..BUT

    by xcornealiousx

    Im kinda feeling this way, I love all James Camerons work, and Im sure I'll enjoy this movie, but now Im more excited for Chris Nolans trailer...the man who avoids cgi as much as possible.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    And I'm not saying the movie is shit...

    by JuanSanchez

    I'm saying I'm profoundly disappointed.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    http://images.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr

    by ironic_name

    http://images.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_h1080p.mov

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    It's a high tech cartoon.

    by DonnaDarko

    <p>Seriously - it looks like what my nieces watch on Saturday AMs on the Cartoon Network.</p> <p> It's not REMOTELY by ANY stretch of ANY imagination 'photo real'. Not even close. What was Cameron thinking to convince himself otherwise?!?!</p> <p>Christ - actors in make-up could make this thing look better. Cameron needs to shut the hell UP now and forget the bragging rights. Avatar should be promoted as a high tech adult animation film - not the be-all and end-all of SciFi 2009.</p>

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Some of the effects shots look great....

    by Orbots Commander

    ...others, not so much. The aliens look spectacular but 'the world' shots look like something out of a video game. <p> I'm intrigued, but no, there isn't any eyeball penetration happening here. <p> And I slaved over this candle-lit dinner with wine, waiting to set the mood for eyeball intercourse---for nothing!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    go back and look at past cgi,

    by intersect

    and you'll find you're making THAT into something its not. This looks great, better than anything so far, can't wait for 3d tomorrow

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    eyeball violation, etc...

    by SminkyPinky

    Who the hell coined that infantile temr anyway? It couldn't have been Cameron. More likely some dimwit TBer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    ...looks like the effort went into the models, not movement...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...or physics...at least from this trailer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    I'm starting to wonder if the problem

    by Vote Fa Stokes Brutha

    is on my end. None of these are working. Apparently that's okay, because the internet says it sucks. Thank you internet. www.agenesisfound.com

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    meh

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Looks good to me...

    by JKrow21

    I'm not sure what looks so shitty about this. I hope the CGI is polished up a bit more before release but it looks like a good sci-fi movie. Oh and District 9 was overrated.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    feeling slightly ill

    by swanstep

    That looks like an xbox 360 game alright. Holy crap. :(

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by chuffsterUK

    there was `wonder`alright.I wondered what the fuck all the fuss is about.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    The 720 link worked first try

    by Jaka

    And that's the only one I looked at. I love the way nearly every second looked. I'm official excited. Everybody won't like it. Some people just want to hate. Some people probably pumped themselves up too much and expected more. I didn't expect that much. And I actually expected something quite different. It was just a trailer, so I won't get silly about it. But I challenge everyone, in a friendly way, to name something else that it looks like. Doesn't look like the Final Fantasy. Doesn't look like any Pixar film. Doesn't look like any Dreamworks Animation. I saw just a tiny bit of clunkiness in the Avatar's running scenes, but that could just be there mechanics. The humans didn't seem to have the same funky stride. Anyway, I'm excited to sit in a theater opening weekend and geek out now. It will actually be my first film I see with any kind of new 3D technology.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    MEH 2: MEH HARDER

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Saw the french version

    by S-Mart shopper

    and my eyeballs were molested

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    The 15 minute preview will destroy this film.....

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Mechwarrior

    by Series7

    Anyone remember that awesome old ass video game? Thats was this reminds me of.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Intersect - - Go watch District 9

    by Brosefulae

    And realize how painfully wrong you are.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Yeah, FlickaPoo saw it too

    by Jaka

    Glad I didn't imagine that.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    The soundtrack sounds good though.

    by DonnaDarko

    Just to throw that out there. It's the best thing about the teaser.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    chuffsterUK

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Back, back to your McG/Abrams/Bay shitfests! Get back while you still can!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    I kept expecting Jar Jar to show up.

    by JuanSanchez

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Does this movie end

    by Series7

    With it was all a dream?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    who cares when expendables is fucking your wife in 2009?

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    i'm quite saddened by this

    by cool_britannia79

    after everything we've heard, it's little more than a CGI ferngully. Look at the shot of the ship landing in the forest, with the animal running away. That looks far too much like a painting, it's just not gritty enough to look anythign like real. And towards the end of the trailer, there's a non CGI shot of Worthington sandwiched between 2 effects shots, the difference is jarring. Like others have said, usually I hate the whining talkbackers, but this is leaving me with the same sense of disappointment as Phantom Menace. Sorry to be pessimistic dudes.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Tentacle Love!

    by kikuchiyoboy

    Curious how the Sneak Preview preview will look compared to the online footage.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    watched it

    by rancthetank

    and I'll probably watch it more before tomorrow. Quit whining, most of you people, and I include myself, are gonna see 16 minutes of it FOR FREE tomorrow anyways.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Brosefulae, you guys sound like babies

    by YackBacker

    Like someone pissed in your breakfast cereal. I admit the CG looks bad, I'm not disagreeing. But some of you come off like you're truly offended. Get a grip.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Well...

    by Dr_Monty

    I'm not going to dismiss this yet... I mean we all know that all of you people saying "fuck this movie" right now are going to go running to see it when it comes out, and so will i. But this really does look pretty errr.. standard... Almost bad for the stuff we have seen lately. Maybe this are old renders, don't know, and nobody is going to know until the movie comes out. But i think that they should have done better for the teaser after all the hype...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Ok in HD

    by eric haislar

    It looks a 1000 times better. I am sure on IMAX It's going to look even better.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    You people...

    by Pooty

    ...have no idea how fucking hard it is to do what they are doing. And on the scale they are doing it. My hats off to them. It's amazing. I can't wait to see this film.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    when the phantom menace trailer came out

    by illegaltouching

    expectations were heightened. maybe it's better this way.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Damn

    by mastes360

    Are some of you realy watching the same trailer that i have?, this thing is jaw dropping.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Don't forget...

    by Ashen Shugar

    it is not supposed to be "just a movie", it's fuckin' 350 Millions US DOLLARS, not talking about additive P&A, and some formerly incredibly smart guy who took a huge huge bonerhead ("I'm the king of the World") and forgot to ask any talented guy : "do you believe this is good looking and finely executed ?". Guys at Fox lost their mind, will lose their jobs, and for all I loved in JC's career I'm sorry to say this is ugly as shit and not good CG at all. And no this universe does not look real and eyeballs blowing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Oh and I am of the camp that thinks Cameron is overrated

    by YackBacker

    I never understood the worship the geek community piles on him. But at the same time, it's a teaser and everyone seems to be up in arms.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Looks like a live action Heavy Metal story

    by AlibyebyeEssmob

    Which is totally awesome. Unhinged, creative fantasy. Why the hate? No, it's not photoreal, but it's badass, and that's good enough for me.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    MAN DID YOU SEE SAM WORTHINGTON THOUGH!

    by Series7

    That guys got some acting chops! His use of wheel chair rivals Daniel Day Lewis. He embodies Stephen Hawking in the mere 5 seconds we saw him. He should star in everything!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Cameron's boat movie sucked!

    by S-Mart shopper

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Cameron better hope tomorrow goes better..

    by bobjustbob

    than today. This looks .... not good. No wonder there hasn't been any production stills. If the AVATAR preview tomorrow goes poorly then this movie is in serious trouble.<p>Grain of salt: I thought TITANIC would be a huge flop too.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Cameron pisses money, he always has

    by YackBacker

    Any studio dumb enough to write him a $350 million check deserves to have its ass kicked. That's just silly business right there. The moviegoing audience has shrunk considerably since even TITANIC. Fuck FOX, seriously. They make shitty movies all of the time, they deserve a major embarrassment.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    ...for now the future is using CGI all the time but subtly...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...in ways that are hard to spot. I still don't think these full CG onslaughts are working yet...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    I had no expectations and I love this...

    by Redfive!

    this looks like a sci-fi film for the ages,of coarse it looks CGI...IT FUCKEN IS CGI.Awesome fantasy flick,cant wait.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    This looks just as good

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    http://tinyurl.com/2llaxe

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Those blue things look stupid.

    by HerbWestAustin

    absolutley

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    All its missing is Mark Hamill....

    by Praetor

    Lets nail those Kilrathi bastards.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Our expectations were too high

    by ForkTongue

    Maybe we can lower them a little now. It looks good but my eyeballs are still virgins. <p> I swear they used a Jumpback right in the middle of the trailer. At this point, it's pretty much a cliche to use a light tunnel effect to show any type of warp speed or mind transfer concept.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    go back and look at past cgi,

    by Photoman

    Like Jurassic Park...made 16 years ago. The T-Rex still looks real. Look at it chasing Jeff Goldblum. Don't tell me that the CGI in Avatar looks more real than that. Seriously. Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if this teaser trailer is just filled with unfinished, quick-render stuff. I just can't believe that someone like Cameron could possibly think this looks realistic. But hey, maybe the secret is that it DOES take place in a videogame world and we don't find that out until the end...kind of like a Sixth Sense deal. Or maybe it's all in this paralyzed guy's mind and it isn't real. Please, tell me it's a videogame world and that Cameron doesn't really think this looks photo-real.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    I scanned for nipple.

    by ironic_name

    I found nipple.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    are you guys confused?

    by rancthetank

    i think most of you are still watching this trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYBRFJ9RArc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aintitcool.com%2Fnode%2F42095&feature=player_embedded there is a new one thats out

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Did Michael Mann direct the trailer?

    by YackBacker

    Just asking.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    I like the aerial battle...

    by just pillow talk

    but all the other CGI looks spotty, and not what I was hoping for.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Welcome back James Cameron......

    by masteryoda007

    What is thy bidding my master?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Is that Fox logo new?

    by Vote Fa Stokes Brutha

    I've never seen it before. I like how it gives a specific geographic location in reference to the Hollywood sign. NOT SINCERE

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by chuffsterUK

    What a cock you are!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    district 9

    by AlienDragQueen

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    So much for the eyeball fucking.

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    It's all ass from now on. Failure is not a strong enough word for this load of bollocks.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    ...the alien's expressions look goofy. I don't think...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...I will be able to get past it. Will try though...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    Christopher Johnson kicks Na'vi ass!

    by sevadro

    District 9 was photo-real or at least as close as I've ever seen. This looks like a Peter Jackson flick and mind you - I'm only criticizing the CGI. I'm sure the story will be tops, but first impressions are key IMO especially when Cameron comes out of his mouth with all that "game changer" yang yang.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    wow, its that final fantasy cartoon from a few years back

    by gomez33

    seriously, it looks like a cartoon. Action cartoons rarely work. I see an almighty flop here, the action didn't even look that great.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Oh so sweet.

    by knowthyself

    Loved it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Corvette Summer had better special effects.

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Welcome back James Cameron......

    by masteryoda007

    What is thy bidding my master?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Maybe Cameron hasn't watched a film since 1997.....

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    ....except Titanic. So to him, these effects are groundbreaking!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    well done, that trailer debut was completely ballsed up.

    by Mysterious_Volvo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    blue faces look scary

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    and why do humans look cartoony or smoothed as well

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    HEY CAMERON! how bout not lieing about making advancements in cg

    by Mysterious_Volvo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    blue faces remind me of I, Robot

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    just not real at all

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Avatar makes my balls ache!!!

    by ProziumJunkie

    in a good way

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    glad I wasn't invested in this movie

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    where can i download not stream?

    by DioxholsterUnbound

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I think the live action stuff has been treated to make...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...it fit in with the animated stuff..instead of the other way around.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Just get Yao Ming and paint him blue

    by YackBacker

    Save hundreds of millions of dollars. Seriously.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    So whats the point of the movie?

    by Series7

    Wheel chair guy becomes a fake blue guy to help infiltrate the world of Blue people, to aid humans in the fight to ummm set up a factory on their planet?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    You guys are too quick to forget that

    by masteryoda007

    This is a Jim Cameron film. As Jimm would say himself, "Fuck you or get out of the way" amen

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Cool, but surprisingly pedestrian

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    I think it just has too much hype. There's nothing "wrong" per se, but the CGI is hardly mind-blowing. Hell, it's pretty cartoony. The Na'vi look very 2 dimensional. Nowhere NEAR Gollum or even Jar Jar Binks! It could be a color problem like we saw with the first Hulk. Overall it looks cool, but it looks like a kid's fantasy adventure movie Like The Neverending Story or something, but in an odd mash-up with Aliens. This trailer definitely lowered my expectations significantly.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Look at the shot of that Navi on the examination table looking a

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    ....the doctors standing on either side of him, don't look like they are looking at him. They look like they are looking up 3 feet behind him. its that goofy fucking CG perspective with the big ass feet that fucks up the whole shot and makes it look 'off' to the eye. Sloppy shit like will destroy this film. Cameron is a perfectionist my fucking ass....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    FlickaPoo--- youre right

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    the movie is shit, looks like Need For Speed CARBON movie video

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Cameron has been trying to undersell us

    by FilmBuf82

    he said, don't expect a Titanic or anything truly groundbreaking. Plus, in HD, the trailers look more clear, once its projected onto a giant screen, some of the grain will be restored and it should look fantastic. I'm still a little disappointed though. But it's Cameron, his movies aren't all about the effects, he's a good storyteller, too. I'll take this over Bay any day.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Direct download:

    by wadi77

    720p:<p>http://tinyurl.com/nasw6g<p>1080p:<p>http://tinyurl.com/nxkmqo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Don't hate it...just not impressed

    by mr

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I've seen the future! James Cameron in 2010

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    http://tinyurl.com/lexjfe

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    looks better than most most stuff, like king kong, but

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    its all about the story folks...

    by snallyg

    I haven't read the script, but the success or failure will hinge on the story: Engaging characters, plot, etc. Look at King Kong and Sup Returns. People would have been a lot more forgiving of the sometimes less than perfect CGI if the scripts had been better. As genre fans, we should want his to be good and succeed. If it flops it will mean less cool fantasy/sci fi movies. Isn't that the whole reason we're here? Isn't this the kind of fantastical stuff that gets up excited? I'm neither a hater or apologist. I just want a cool freakin movie experience. Isn't THAT the whole idea??

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    ...usually the goal is to blend the CG with the real...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...looks like they realized that wasn't realistic for this movie so they tried to make the real look CG

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    terrible compared to D9

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Eh....

    by karmakitten13

    The stills we've seen up until now haven't been all that great and this trailer was just ok. Reserving judgement until I see the movie, but after seeing this I will be going in with much lowered expectations.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    It does look cartoony.

    by Lashlarue

    Doesn't mean it'll be a bad movie, but this isn't a Star Wars type leap ahead in special effects.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    looks better than most most stuff, like king kong, but

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    haha thats funny. they must need something else

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    terrible compared to D9

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    LOOKS LIKE LOST PLANET 2

    by damiz707

    I can't fucking stand CGI heavy movies. Guillermo Del Toro's creatures look way better than this.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Comic-con was right to hate AVATAR

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    why do u think they didnt show that shit earlier. seriously man ALiens looked way more real

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Was that the boner

    by Series7

    From the Hottie and the Nottie and the Waking Up In Vegas video and Matrix nerd from Grandmas Boy?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    chuffsterUK

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You're the cock.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    MY EYES MY EYES MY EYES

    by ominus

    oh god i can not see,i am blind aaarghghghg

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    michael bay jerks off to Cameron's name

    by ProziumJunkie

    to Cameron's movie trailers he jerks off then snorts coke and kills a hooker

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Whoever said Ill take this over Bay..

    by xcornealiousx

    AMEN! Just saying District 9 looked more realistic!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Where the f**k was Sigourney?

    by Oompacabra

    I'm not sure about this anymore.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!

    by twogunjames

    It looks just like I knew it would. Green screen nonsense. FX driven shots that I could care less about. Creature designs that suck. I mean they are tall blue elves with very human features.Big fucking deal. And obviously this is going to be a story about a marine going native and helping the indians from the white devils trying to put them in reservations so later than can build casinos!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    FernGully 2: The Magical Rescue

    by Series7

    Was over 10 years ago. Man I'm tired of all these reboots.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Didn't I play this as a first person shooter?

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    I would consider myself a big Cameron fan so I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt – but my immediate reaction is this looks pretty bad (as in had I seen this trailer and not known it was Cameron I wouldn’t think it would be something I’d need to see in the theater). The ending kiss scene looks straight out of some cheeseball video game cut scene. It makes me wonder if everybody n this board who are saying, wow revolutionary, great! Are the same people who still think the new Star Wars trilogy is good. Just seeing this makes me think you’ll see Watchmen like performance – a big first weekend bump from the sci-fi geeks than a big drop-off from people who think it’s just another Beowulf-ish experiment.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Remember Jimmy Boy. ALWAYS use people in suits....

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    ...dumb fuck.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    saw the footage at Comic Con...

    by scaryskeleton

    Guys you do not know what you are in for. Cameron, as opposed to McG, Bay, etc. is a real filmmaker. He knows how to build suspense and immerse you in a world. Gollum wasn't "photo real" either, but you cared about his performance. This movie in 3d on a big screen will astonish. Bless you Cameron for taking the time to make something amazing and original.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Oompacabra

    by Series7

    Sigourney was the voice of the computer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Oompacabra

    by Series7

    Sigourney is the crazy lady that lives in the jungle with blue apes.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Oompacabra

    by Series7

    Sigourney was the mech technician.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    An awesome effects test for the Halo movie

    by cool_britannia79

    Which is ironic seeing as though District 9 is blowing Avatar away. If you don't have the capability, technology, and vision, to convincingly portray an alien world in CGI, don't do it. They could have used real rainforest here on Earth for Pandora, look at all 3 Jurassic Park movies, those fight scenes in the jungle looked superb.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    looks better than most most stuff, like king kong, but

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    terrible compared to D9

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Anyone else think the Nav'i look a little gay??

    by Marxeffect

    I know they're fluid in motion etc, etc but they do look a little bit camp!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Oompacabra

    by Series7

    Sigourney was the lady that reads off what the computer is saying.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    terrible compared to D9

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    300 million? This is the kinda shit destroying the film industry

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    Good work James!!! What do you give a fuck anyway? You have your fucking underwater docs to fall back on.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    It's Not Photoreal! SHUT UP

    by LeCercleRouge

    It never will be. There needs to be some disconnect in your mind from the fact that you are watching a CG special effect. You've never seen an 8 foot tall hippie alien. How the hell do you know how it looks? Also, at an expense of $240 million, don't you think they have just about the best technology/artists money can buy these days?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    its the motion capture that matters

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    coz the images look like a Japanese cartoon. like those mechs

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Could someone please tell me

    by chuffsterUK

    ..just having a discussion,who insists the whole film is CGI.I thought the scenes such as Worthington in the wheelcahir etc were 100% human actors,he says they are CGI rendered.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Honestly guys...

    by mastes360

    ...Your hate never suprises me but even i am a little suprised by the hate for this. The film looks amazing and its only because of the sweeping camera shots and all the alien stuff that your brain knows must be fake and thats why it doesn't look real (by the way, how do you know alien worlds and aliens themselves don't look and move exactly like in this teaser?). distric 9 looked so good due to the earth setting, on'y the aliens and the hazy ship in the background was cgi and thats a lot easier for your brain to accept, also the documentary style as oppose to sweeping impossible camera shots like in Avatar certainly help your brain to accept it more. AVATAR will blow everyone away at the cinema, gauranteed.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC TITANIC

    by bobjustbob

    I do like some of the Roger Dean-ish planetscapes. But in HD it really does look like World of Warcraft cut scenes. Only bluer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Looks like Warcraft Vs. Starcraft.

    by Azlam Orlandu

    Which is fine by my standards. You're a bunch of fags.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Oompacabra

    by Series7

    Sigourney is the gatekeeper. Are you the keymaster?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Saying this looks better than King Kong is fucking crazy

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    hate on the movie all you want, but the Kong CG itself was fucking amazing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    twogunjames:

    by Photoman

    I read the script years ago. You pretty much nailed it on the head as to what it's about.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Just consider that a large portion of the CGI in this trailer

    by YackBacker

    Is being shown in slow-motion. That may be screwing with your perception of it as well.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Sc-Fi "Dances with Wolves"?

    by BibFortuna

    That's what impression I'm getting here.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Underwhelming

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    nothing too exciting on show. I still think the film will be awesome but I don't think they have enough material at this point to deliver a great trailer, which is I guess why this is billed as a teaser All the CG army stuff and fantasy creatures etc is such a well worn path now, its just no impressive even though this looks very well done and it reminds one of the bad taste left by the prequels.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Oompacabra

    by Series7

    Sigourney was Alvy's Date Outside Theatre. Ok I'm done.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    STAR WARS looked better than this

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    and that was 4 years ago

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    VENTURE BROS. Season 4 trailer fucked my eyeballs harder

    by SpyGuy

    Anyone else getting the feeling AVATAR is going to be a mega-bomb? I know I am.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Anyone who didnt like i............

    by standundermyumbrella

    must just fuck off and DIE

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    scaryskeleton...it is true that Cameron builds action...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...scenes as well or better than anyone...you find yourself tensing up even if you don't ant to...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    scaryskeleton = JAMES CAMERON

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    pathetic

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Cameron blows it

    by Chesterfield Slacks

    Sad. Nice execution by the artists involved, however no hint of originality whatsoever. It's late 80's Sci-Fi designs ported to 21st century CG. Eye-candy for geeks mired in "Aliens" hardware worship.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    I LOVE IT!!!!

    by JohnRyder

    I watched it 5 times so far. I truly love it! I am not sure about the navi, but once we get use to them it will be fine. as far the CGI concerned it is about the level of the Star Wars prequels and I think it is fine. CG in the star wars movies were never an issue to me (apart from some cheap looking bluescreen compositing) thinking about seeing it in IMAX 3D... all we can hope for. I personaly don't give a fuck if people like it or not it just make me sad we get film like this in every 10 year (yes) and people waste it on sensless hate. Good for you people (no, its not) For me, december cannot come fast enough

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Hooh boy, when I saw the trailer two things...

    by Orbots Commander

    ...came to mind: 'Ferngully' and 'preachy-humans-are-evil-environmental-message-guilt-trip-movie'. The aliens and some of the action looks fine, but you get a sense of what the story is going to be from the trailer, and I'm sensing...Ferngully II: Avatar.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Fox News has better animation than this.

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    And that's Mr. Nice Anus' home turf.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    YackBacker--- that is a stupid thing to say

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    where is the slow motion man? and you want it like james bond QOS so we cant see shit so we dont see what crappy visuals they really are.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    king kong's landscapes and animals weren't as good as that trail

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Avatar trailer

    by Jared

    meh. eye balls certainly not fucked.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    There is an upside

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    If this blows up, maybe Cameron will be forced to make another Aliens or Terminator film to redeem himself….then again, we might just get Titanic II.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    MY EYEBALLS!!!

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    That looks fucking awesome. Cameron's been playing too much Halo it seems, but it looks great.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    I'd hate to be Cameron's spouse tonight.

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    The fists will fly.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Worthington in the wheelchair getting off the ship....

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    ...looks absolutely CG. His face looks almost as bad as Merry and Pippin's pasted on faces while getting carried away at the end of FOTR.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    chuffsterUK

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Its not 100% CG, its a mix of live action and animation.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    So the scenes

    by master_of_realty

    from the "Greetings. I live Pandora" trailer were real after all.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    So, James Cameron ... What You've Done ...

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    ... is spend the GDP of a small nation on creating a movie that looks a LITTLE better-rendered but imagewise is essentially the same as this:<p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgQ_ichSL9A<p><p> ... mixed with this ... <p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkV-of_eN2w<p><p> ... mixed with this ... <p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qd_IsxgAf8<p><p> ... Sorry, on the premiere day I'll be painting with the colors of MY wind in terms of my excitement over this project.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    After District 9 ....

    by pita1963

    my reaction to this is - meh ...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Um... this thing looks like a fucking cartoon...

    by JackLucas

    THIS is what we have been told is going to rape our eyeballs and change the game and all of that hyperbolic horseshit? THIS is what they are having a special day for that people are shitting themselves to get tickets to see? I really hope the final product is more than that trailer because I'd hate to see Cameron's triumphant return end up being a fizzling bomb.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Worthington in the wheelchair coming out of the plain is cgi

    by Mysterious_Volvo

    you can tell because he moves shit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Cameron is reading this....you bet your fucking ass on that....

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    and that Worthington delivery of "THIS IS GREAT" in the Navi body was fucking atrocious.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    DioxholsterUnbound, the shots of Sully seeing his Avatar

    by YackBacker

    The shots of the Avatar waking up, the shots of his Avatar hooking up with the lady Na'vi... all slow-motion.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Those of you who judge a movie by its trailer...

    by Azlam Orlandu

    ...will be brutalized by me in the theater. That's not to say that I'm in stark defense of this film. But you're all ignorant fools who have been wrong many times in the past. Chalk another one up for your judgemental and ignorant existances.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Looks good but...

    by Scotious

    ...I guess wheelchair technology hasn't caught up in this future.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    should star julie strain

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    And DioxholsterUnbound, as for the QoS reference

    by YackBacker

    you've totally lost me. What are you babbling about?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    ThusSpakeSpymunk

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    Hilarious. it really does look a lot like Delgo.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    I love Cameron's films...

    by simongarth2001

    ...but this just looks too much like a damn xbox game!! Did somebody forget to push the photo realistic button?......just sayin'.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by chuffsterUK

    Thanks mate.So,for instance,the guy with the scar is real and Worthington in the wheelchair?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    You idiots,fyou ucking ignorant kids

    by ominus

    have u read at all the interview cameron gave to aicn during comicon? go to the part where he says that one of the movies bigchallenges is to make the audience immerse to these alien characters and their world.And from the screen previews he already did,he witnessed that at first the audience had difficulty to think of the aliens as alive and not fake,not CG images.but quickly they got immersed into the movie,their mind let accept the photorealistic creatures as something real,as real as the real life actors of the movie.its all in the mind. <P>In other words,your brain cant comprehend the image of the navi alien,because it hasnt seen a navi before,so it acknowledges as fake and as a result u get the impression that is cartoony. <P>BUT download the HD version and look the navi when its in the table.DONT look its head,look his feet,look his hnds,look his skin how interact with the light and how it looks compared to the real actors in the scne. <p>Now tell me does its cgi photorealism looks to u worse or even the same as those of TF2,GIJOE,D9 or even LOTR gollum? <p>shut your mouth until tomorrows preview.if this stuff looks great in a downsided,compressed video file,it will be amazin in the big screen.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Beowulf

    by mastes360

    Another thing, will people please realise that this is not Beowulf i.e. everything is cgi, AVATAR is like Sky Captain where the humans and some of the sets are all real and only the background, aliens, Pandora etc are cgi.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    MATRIX vs. TPM all over again

    by snallyg

    Seasoned veteran known for pioneering FX returns to the game with much hype and anticipation. Few months before release, a scrappy upstart (D9 in this case) steals the thunder. Lets just hope Avatar is better than EP 1, but the similarity is uncanny.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    you're all still gonna see it.

    by richardphilip

    so shut up. fucking whining yanks.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    BibFortuna!

    by xcornealiousx

    YOU ARE RIGHT! HAHAHAHA! This is a SciFi Dances with Wolves!!!! Minus the Ta-tonka!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    This is going to be the exact reversal of Phantom Menace

    by kwisatzhaderach

    People complaining the trailer is shit, then getting their head fucking blown off in the theater.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    mastes360...seriously? that's your defense of this?

    by Photoman

    "we don't know what aliens or an alien world looks like....so who's to say it doesn't look like a Xbox 360 game?" That's pretty much the gist of it. I didn't want to hate this. I still am not passing judgment on the movie itself until I see it. I'm just going on what Cameron himself has been saying for the past 3 years. But so far this ain't all that...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    AVATAR is the Bizarro version of DISTRICT 9

    by SpyGuy

    $350 million vs. $30 million. And the $30 million flick looks way better.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Wolfman trailer

    by chuffsterUK

    http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/the-wolfman.html?showVideo=1

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Bad CGI?

    by Lobanhaki

    <br>You've got to be kidding me. That was excellent CGI. The haters just don't suspend disbelief, so nothing looks real. I'll bet you the same people would have made the same complaints about ugly optical effects, were those the ones employed.</br> <br>As a person who actually knows a thing or two about CGI, and actually remembers what old CGI looks like, I can say that this is some excellent animation, and excellent rendering.</br> <br>The Problem we have here is that many of the talkbackers want the film to fail. So they nitpick. The reality is, most people won't nitpick. Most people will look at and just experience it.</br> <br>Anything done through special effects will look unreal if you look at it hard enough. Stop motion will give itself away through its jerkiness. Models by their scale of detail. Matte Paintings through their painted appearance. Optical composites through the matte lines, the generational degradation, and the problems with reflections.</br> <br>Everything unreal falls apart in a movie if you're looking to nitpick it. The best way to judge work is to relax, soak it in, and then judge. But that means losing control a little. However, you're judge an artform where absorption of that kind is part of the point.</br>

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    chuffsterUK

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Right. All those portions were shot on live action sets. It goes CG when they head out into the jungle. (One exception being the shot where Worthington wheels himself out of the ship, clearly a CG background). <p> Have we made up now?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Sorry Mr. Cameron

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLO0D

    This doesn't seem like my type of movie. I could never hate on James Cameron after he dazzled me with Terminator 2 as a boy and made me literally weep in public during multiple showings of Titanic, but this just didn't excite me. But then, fantasy has never been my thing. If Harry gives it a positive review I'll give it a shot, but in all honesty... if I hadn't heard the hype or known who was directing I don't think I'd have finished watching the trailer. Good or bad, nothing could tarnish James Cameron in my eyes though. I applaud his experimentation.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    crisp clear colorful

    by rajium32

    seems to be the bane of CGI's existence. Where are dirty grainy seems to work better for CGI. crazy because it was such a huge deal in the early 90's to get dirty and grainy CGI. any thoughts?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    ishtar2?

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    hate the haters...

    by scaryskeleton

    Seriously. Somebody swings for the bleachers and you guys dump on them. What makes me sick is that the studios really do read these things and attach weight to what you idiots say and think. The images look much better on a big screen and in their proper context. Just wait.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    ominus -- ummm fuck you.

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    I looked at the shot of the Navi on the table. That horribly retarded perspective with feet far too big to attempt to give the shot depth, and the doctors looking at a mark 3 feet behind the CG Navi's head. Yeah it looks like fucking ass. i'm not talking texture or lighting (that looks like shit as well) i'm speaking of placement of the character. sloppy fucking work.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    how to download this?

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    anyone know?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    i dont know...

    by saint seiya

    i was not impressed by this trailer at all :( Hopefully tomorrows screening fixes my dissapointment.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    OF COURSE STAR WARS looks better...

    by Banshee7

    ILM kicks WETA'S ass. Nuff' said. I do want to see the movie though.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    That's it?! This looks like fucking Delgo!

    by juggygales1000

    I am not impressed with the CGI. I'm not saying the movie doesn't look mildly entertaining but c'mon JC! We've waited 12 years for you to make a real kick ass movie ala Aliens, T2 or True Lies. This looks like child's play with CGI characters that not only do not suspend any sort of disbelief, but are distracting and pull you out of the movie. Somebody tell JC to call Peter Jackson so he can teach him how to make realistic CGI characters. Where's Gollum when you need him?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    The first closeup of Saldana's character

    by YackBacker

    through the leaves in the jungle... that's pretty exceptional CG there. Look at the details on the skin texture.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Looks okay.

    by I Hope You Die

    Some of the CGI is a bit wonky. But it's not awful.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLO0D

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    why take someone elses name?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    YAAAWWWWNNNN........

    by berksbear

    .....SO bored with CGI characters in movies now!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    FINALLY!

    by Vote Fa Stokes Brutha

    It LOOKS pretty good, but I still can't see myself getting too amped for the story, and I'm already finding quite an uncanny valley in my empathy for the Narnia Centaur-looking muhfugs. Still, though, I can say this is visually impressive. www.agenesisfound.com

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Remember James Cameron?

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    Soon to be serving the finest french fries in Southern California.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by chuffsterUK

    Yes.....biatch;-)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by chuffsterUK

    Yes.....biatch;-)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by chuffsterUK

    Yes.....biatch;-)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    where "AS" - sorry

    by rajium32

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    fuck you ominus

    by cool_britannia79

    you cock

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Na'vi tails being inserted into flying things assholes..

    by conspiracy

    and in IMAX 3-D at that. Still, I'll see it...eco-fuck message and all. Can't wait for the game...hope it allows me to be the door gunner...killin spear and arrow chuckin Na'vi looks like fun.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    that looks really, really bad

    by mthrndr

    My enthusiasm went from 10 to 0 so fast I got whiplash. The first 20 seconds are cool, and then the 'nav'i' show up. What was Cameron thinking?? "I want to make something bad-ass. I know, ten foot tall versions of the puppets from Dark Crystal, with a little bit of smurf thrown in!"

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    ILM does indeed kick ass

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    WETA is no competition.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Details of skin texture don't mean shit...

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    ...its all about the movement.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    ass

    by ominus

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Who cares about the Effect... I want a good story

    by mistergreen

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Well, I for one..

    by Madcapper

    think this looks very good. Exiting stuff. I don't care who you are. If you´re trying to sell me something, I will always take everything you say with a grain of salt..Therefore, I'm not bummed out, as many seems to be in this TB. It's a movie, not the fuckin second coming..

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    DioxholsterUnbound

    by gotilk

    A program called "flashgot" (firefox plugin) allowed me to grab it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    The best thing in the trailer is...

    by TraumReiter

    ...him saying "This is great". The emotion is real you can feel it. I'm so excited for tomorrow. In Cameron we trust.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    The skin was moving u idiot

    by ominus

    try not to be blind of your hate.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Mysterious Volvo...

    by The_Coyote

    No, actually. It looks jittery because they've slowed down a shot that was filmed normal speed, so they're duplicating some of the 24 frames in order to increase the length of the shot. It has nothing to do with the CG. It's the frame rate. I can't believe some of the people here. Sure, if you don't like the premise or the universe, that's fine. But to say it looks like a video game just makes it sound like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I've gone through this thing frame-by-frame, and the rendering and effects here are amazing. There's subtle stuff going on that can only be appreciated when you're actually watching it for extended periods of time (not to mention we don't even get the 3D here). Is it completely photo-real, indistinguishable to the eye? No. But it's still some of the most impressive and immersive effects work that's ever been done.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Looks fucking awesome!

    by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    Fin.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Ok, now I have something to get excited over

    by Geomancer21

    About damn time. some footage, its all i wanted. Now I want to see this. looks badass.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    My eyes are dripping with JC's Semen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by crackerfarmboy

    Seriously, what's the big deal here? Looks interesting but it's a CGI flick. I don't see anything "so revolutionary" about the CGI in this trailer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    It also looks a lot like this

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    http://tinyurl.com/b8j8ht

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by kwisatzhaderach

    That's an incredible shot.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    So much anger.

    by YackBacker

    Good luck finding happiness in the world, gents.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    that looks like a poop

    by bright boy

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    those human masks are not cool

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    they dont blend with the Tech of that universe

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Is it wrong if the alien chick gave me wood?

    by rev_skarekroe

    Hypothetically speaking, of course.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Good post ominus. I haven't laughed like that in a while.

    by JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH

    Like I need a rule book/set of directions to "get" a movie? Fuck that. And fuck you.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Looks like a CG version of Ferngully

    by shitstorm23

    That's what I take from that, we'll see if it looks any better at the preview tomorrow.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    WETA will be doing ILM's system maintenance....

    by ELI_ROTH_SWALLOWS_SEMEN

    ....in the next 5 years.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    And THIS is what AICN is all about

    by chuffsterUK

    All of us verbally kicking the shit/or praising a trailer in the medium we love and all of us verbally kicking the shit/praising each other,knowing full well most of us are posting each insult with a wry grin and the thought that we actually would share a beer with everyone here.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Wolfman trailer

    by master_of_realty

    is where it's at.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLO0D

    by Series7

    Dumbass DGDB hates T2.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Yeah, kwisatzhaderach I think people will do an about-face

    by YackBacker

    When this comes out, they'll say "OMFG!" etc. I am not a huge Cameron fan, I think he's a maudlin storyteller, heavy-handed with the characterizations, etc. But this looks damn interesting. Of course, I'm not expecting eyeball fellatio, or whatever these people were praying for. It's just a movie... and this one is looking good.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    YackBacker & kwisatzhaderach

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    You guys are two discernable gents. What's your overall opinion of this here trailer? (Unfortunately, I cannot view it while at work.)<P>On a side note, it looks like some of the girls from AIBN have come out to play. Keep your eyes on those underscore bitches.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    DO YOU FAGS LIKE ANYTHING?

    by Atomica

    Seriously? I haven't seen the Trailer...i'm saving my eyes for Avatar Day. But C'mon...you Motherfuckers BITCH about every Goddamned movie. EVERY FUCKING ONE. I know that some shit needs to haveit's ass raped for shittiness...Can we say Van Helsing? Come the fuck on man...Avatar? Seriously? No wonder why Kevin Smith made JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK. You BitchTits are LOCO. I wish I could see ONE, just ONE fucking movie that you dickshits didn't rip a new one. Spazzes.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Hey Lobanhaki...

    by juggygales1000

    I don't think people want to see this thing fail. It's just that after the "Lord of the Rings" series, people have HIGH expectations for what CGI characters are supposed to look and 'feel" like. I don't want to "suspend disbelief"... I WANT TO BELIEVE that what I am seeing on the screen is REAL, not spent the whole movie trying to convince my brain that what I am seeing is real. This looks good, just not good enough. Like I said before, in my opinion, this really does look like "Delgo" to me. LOTR changed my perception of what CGI and CGI characters could be. Gollum felt like a living, breathing real creature. This just doesn't do it for me and after sing this trailer, Its changed my expectations for the film and my exitement for it. I love JC movies and am not a hater, just a realist.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    My favorite moment...

    by gotilk

    The way the male avatar's ears and features kind of stretch back like a cat reacting with surprise or danger when faced with one of those flying things coming at him. Little details like that are becoming more obvious with each viewing. I think many of you will be surprised when you finally see it in 3d, with longer to gaze upon the characters in full resolution. I get the feeling this is going to spawn a generation of new furries and a renewed interest in consumer VR head-tracking, head mounted or retinal displays. Bring it on.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Yeah Neutiri is hot

    by ominus

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Is AICN really that excited by this?

    by Sloopjohnb

    Ok, Harry I can understand: the man likes just about everything enthusiastically and there is that part of him that comes of as a shill (which I don't mind, btw). Quint seems like the only level headed person on this site (in regards to Avatar). How anyone can be excited by the terrible looking aliens is beyond me... They look like something out of a bad video game.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Is AICN really that excited by this?

    by Sloopjohnb

    Ok, Harry I can understand: the man likes just about everything enthusiastically and there is that part of him that comes of as a shill (which I don't mind, btw). Quint seems like the only level headed person on this site (in regards to Avatar). How anyone can be excited by the terrible looking aliens is beyond me... They look like something out of a bad video game.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Some darn fine Occulingus

    by yomomma

    Any of you haters still trashing this movie just on principal officially are dead inside.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    I've watched The Phantom Menace...

    by Azlam Orlandu

    ...50 times more than The Matrix. And I'm sure I'm not alone.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    And by bring it on, I mean the VR.

    by gotilk

    Not the furries. ahem.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    EVERYBODY: SHUT THE FUCK UP!

    by --- Emperor ---

    Upon finally seeing the entire thing, I have to say: This is quite good. It has all the hallmarks of a Cameron Epic (including all the naysayers being proven wrong eventually)... I remember how everybody was beginning to trash titanic: Then, it won 11 oscars and made 1.8 billion world wide. Then people shut up...for a while at least. AND THEN

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    So it's Dances With Wolves with Cartoon Aliens.

    by DonnaDarko

    Holy Hell. I expected disappointment - but no where NEAR this level. WHAT.THE.FUCK. was Cameron thinking?!?!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Here is your photorealism you idiots

    by ominus

    screengrabs from the trailer.and yes the motion of these images will be fantastic in the big screen. <p>http://tinyurl.com/lbw7ue <p>http://tinyurl.com/n2sm7y

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    It looks like SW prequels and the Matrix sequels...

    by Jon_Snow_Targaryan

    Had a retarded baby.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    THIS LOOKS AMAZING!!!

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Someone in the other TB said it best. It's not REVOLUTION as we were told but it is EVOLUTION and I think a landmark film. well done, Mr. Cameron.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Apple is working now.

    by Lashlarue

    It's growing on me. Now that the hype balloon has been deflated.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Yep, definitely dissapointing,,,

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Great, more shitty, cartoon-looking CGI. I was trying to be cautiously optimistic for this, but by God, this looks shit. Not feeling the face-fuckingness, here...I was going to go to the screening tomorrow based on this trailer, so looks like I won't be going. Anyone want a ticket to the AMC Lowes in NYC?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    alien chick looked like she had an orgasm

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    kinda hot

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    I'm sure it'll look better in 3D

    by Magic Rat

    well, I hope it will, anyway.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    So it's WoW Night Elves vs Futuristic Military?

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Weird. The fx are cool but the lead guy is dull as door nails and I'm not really getting much human connection with this.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by kwisatzhaderach

    On first viewing the CG does look a little cartoonish. But when you go back and rewatch the detail is astonishing. It looks and feels like Cameron, awesome use of music. There's clearly a story and a sense of wonder involved. Some epic battle shots towards the end. Be excited.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Wow..that CGI is fucking AWFUL

    by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER

    I've long felt this movie was more hype than hip but now that I've experienced the aforementioned "eyefuckery" all I can say is...I feel so fucking vindicated. This CGI is the worst since Lucas. Good luck, Cameronfags. I'll save my money for Nolan's Inception.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Photo-real? No. Gorgeous? Yes!

    by Sheeld

    This mostly resembles a 3D Miyazaki adventure, and that's A OK in my book! Will it be a mega hit? Probably too hardcore sci-fi for that, but if the story and 3D hold up, it could have humongous legs.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Another one screengrab

    by ominus

    OMFG ITS SO FAKE,SO FAKE: <p>http://tinyurl.com/lt5rv2 a big fuck you to the haters

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Welcome back JAMES CAMERON...you rule!

    by ABking

    The more I watch this trailer, the more I want to see it. It has a THE MATRIX meets KING KONG (on the Island scenes) feel to it. I think it should do well this December, but I get the feeling a star would have sold the film better. Say Tom Cruise instead of Sam Worthington. Heck, Schwarzenegger would have been an awesome cripple and bad ass ape size AVATAR if he wasn't Governor. Welcome back JAMES CAMERON! This film looks epic and awesome. I know your next film is with ARNOLD, so why not remake WESTWORLD!?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Exactly.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    At 250 million

    by MrDexter

    I don't want it District 9 gritty - I want it beautiful: and it was - looking forward to tomorrow at real IMAX. The reason it doesn't look real is simple: it's not.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Looks good, just bad approach...

    by The Eskimo

    ...no dialogue, ande the only story element you glean from this is that Sam Worthington uses his Avatar to walk again. No mention of what the conflict is, where they are, etc. And why did we have to see that monster jump out of the woods twice? And the aliens don't look especially tall or especially alien.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    How the fuck is D9 blowing Avatar away?

    by Larry of Arabia

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Look the teeth ffs.look the fucking teeth

    by ominus

    amazing detail,and incredible photorealism.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Soooo....

    by SunTzu77

    What was supposed to blow me away about this film? It looks interesting (story wise)... obviously CGI... lots of the production pieces seem to be influenced by his prior films. *shrug*

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    FOR REAL??

    by Stifler's Mom

    that's what we've been waiting for? a FINAL FANTASY reboot?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Every 10 year old boy in the world will see this

    by kwisatzhaderach

    3 or 4 times. Massive box office winner. Avatar is for young boys what Titanic was for teenage girls.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    How the fuck is D9 blowing Avatar away?

    by Larry of Arabia

    Avatar isn't even out yet. It's also not the same kind of movie, other than the fact that both are science fiction - a very broad umbrella indeed.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    We don't need no stinking Mark Romanek!!!

    by Series7

    This looks fucking kickass, Anthony Hopkins rules!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    So when this movie does record Box office

    by yomomma

    Will you haters yelling 'TANK!" please do the honorable thing and kill yourselves?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    The minute they find out females dig this...

    by gotilk

    haters will switch sides. And by haters, I mean people who think it looks like Ferngully, not people who actually have valid criticisms along with their anticipation. If you think this looks like a cross between Ferngully and Beowolf, please watch it again and get your eyes checked. I think it just looks a *tiny* bit less than my wishes and dreams. Just a tad bit cartoony, but an obvious leap forward. VERY obvious. As in... if you don't see it, you're blind. Uncanny valley still hasn't been "escaped", but we are getting very, very close.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Very true...

    by SunTzu77

    I was thinking the same thing... the whole 3D crap will be the selling point... the CGI looks like something out of 10,000 BC.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Thank God the innocence of my eyeballs is still intact...

    by 7pointedstar

    That... was underwhelming. I'm sure Cameron is saving all his money shots for the theatrical trailer, but still... I'm just not that impressed.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Wait wrong trailer Talkback...

    by Series7

    Wait there is no Wolfman trailer TB. <P> Actually we'll call it let down of the day #2 trailer talkback. Save for Anthony Hopkins.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    to ominus

    by teamneedle

    screen grabs always look great- its cg in motion that fails..

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    EVERYBODY: SHUT THE FUCK UP!

    by --- Emperor ---

    Upon finally seeing the entire thing, I have to say: This is quite good. It has all the hallmarks of a Cameron Epic (including all the naysayers being proven wrong eventually)... I remember how everybody was beginning to trash titanic: Then, it won 11 oscars and made 1.8 billion world wide. Then people shut up...for a while at least. AND THEN...Suddenly, after titanic achieved so much more success (including album sales and video/dvd sales), People started trashing it again...calling it a 200 million chick flick, etc etc, and how it only made money 'cause of DiCaprio, blah blah blah. You people are pathetic. Trashing for trashing's sake. It's so much easier to trash this, than something like District 9. I have seen District 9, and it's a great film, but just because it cost a lot less and was a lot less anticipated, doesn't mean you should take it more seriously than an event film like Avatar. I bet you any money after District 9 becomes a classic within the next few months, you'll see the first nay sayers popping up talking about how silly it was...In fact, it's already started in the IMDB forums... Anyway, back to Avatar. While it isn't the second coming of christ (and I don't recall Cameron ever intending for it to be), it surely is imaginative, intriguing and broad in scope. I have confidence that this is going to be a great film. So you people sitting here on your fat, hairy undeserved asses, should shut the fuck up and stop crying like cretins, just because you are unimportant and have achieved nothing in your lives, besides chilling out on AICN along with your equally insipid pals. Cameron is in his position because he has achieved a lot of success in his life. I understand when people like you get angry at the likes of Shyamalan or Anderson, because it also pisses me off that idiots like them get funding for repeated failures in the past. But in this case, I must say, it's simply a case of idiotic mob hysteria.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    sci fi needs more concept, less creatures

    by j_difool

    i thought cameron understood this. i'd like to see him make a movie for $30 million. or, where do you suppose that other $320 went? marketing? cocaine and whores? are we sure he didn't just hire the team who is making the game to do the CGI for the film? i think i prefer the leaked trailer from yesterday. it looked less "cartoony."

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    MNG, my honest take

    by YackBacker

    Is that this is going to be a fairly straightforward story, similar to what someone said earlier- DANCES WITH WOLVES. There will be an element of the Vietnam war mixed in too (a military-industrial power being fended off by a native, low-tech people). Nothing I've seen here or have read makes me think this is a philosophically complex story, which is pretty much par for the Cameron course.<p> Visually, I like what I see. I think a lot of thought has gone into the designs and I am looking forward to them in full motion, without any "trailer-editing" fades and slow-motion gags. I think the trailer itself is a B- it shows off something new, but at the same time I agree that the CG *looks* bad in a few places. They would have been better off just showing 2 minutes of actual footage- maybe a battle or the waking of Sully's Avatar.<p> I've said above, I'm not a Cameron fanboy. I think he's a heavy-handed storyteller. He wants you to FUCKING laugh when he wants you to and CRY when he wants as well. Filmmaking is a form of emotional manipulation, but he is a real dick about it sometimes. But I am very interested in seeing this movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    The more I see it...

    by SminkyPinky

    ...the more I like it. But it's the N'avi's eyes whihc seem to be giving their CGness away to me.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Cool. I'm excited but not insanely so. After being thoroughly impressed with DISTRICT 9, I'm just curious to see what Cameron has in mind when it comes to aliens, world creation and so forth.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    they couldve done this without CGI

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    like used makeup and stuff. wouldve been more convincing

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Anybody remember the trailer to Titanic?

    by Lashlarue

    Say what you will about the movie, but the trailer really got people in the theater. i don't think the same thing is gonna happen here.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    From the director of

    by master_of_realty

    THE TRUE LIES and THE ALIENS...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    --- Emperor ---

    by Series7

    Learn how to make paragraphs.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Of course you recognize that it is CGI...

    by TraumReiter

    because you know that stuff like that doesn't exist. If there would be CGI cow with the same detail in the shot you couldn't tell if it was real or not.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    ominus Thanks for the grabs.

    by gotilk

    Outstanding quality. I didn't even know I needed glasses a few months ago. Perhaps a percentage of people here have sight problems they're not aware of. Cannot wait for tomorrow to come.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    The Only opinion that will matter in the end , . . .

    by Lazerman21

    Is the Box-Office Opinion. You all hated TRANSFORMERS 2, but people went out in Droves, You all hated SPEED RACER (not me) and it FLOPPED at the box-office. We the people vote with out dollars, and I pretty much GUARANTEE that AVATAR will be voted very high this year with those dollars. Loved the trailer! And Those who do not watch trailers before films come out, you are more disciplined people than I. I envy your skill. :-)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Errr....

    by jasper Stillwell

    ...is that it?!?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    first time talkbacker

    by food_fight

    Took the time to register to say that this looks way too cartoony to be taken seriously. Not really excited at all to see this.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Looks awesome

    by The Decider

    I don't give a shit if it's photorealistic or not. It looks great. We'll have to wait and see if it actually *is* great.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    BEST looking videogame footage ever!

    by Cervantes

    ....but there's no doubt a lot of this is about as 'natural'-looking as this - http://www.dangerouslyasian.com/AvatarJarJar.jpg (remove any spaces that might show in that link there)>P>The fact is this thing WILL look fantastic in all it's 3D big screen glory....but in 2D, it's just got too much of a videogame CGI 'cut-scene' sheen to it, albeit a great one. I have a feeling I'll care more for the shoot-'em-ups than for the implausible 'inter-species' romance between 2 Jar Jar clones....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Anyone that gets mad at people for trashing shit they don't know

    by Series7

    Must be new. This site thrives off of hate. I'm pretty sure its a monster living in Harry's stomach ala Quato. It grows bigger and stronger with hate.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Remember the 3D bit?

    by LarkStew

    There was an interview where Cameron said it's the 3D that (supposedly) convinces your brain that it's real and not CG. So take the 2D teaser with a pinch of salt. Even in 2D after you've seen it a few times you start to notice the details. Although the Na'vi faces do look a little static to me. I was expecting the faces to be a bit more expressive? But hey it's barely 2 minutes of it, I'll be in the queue for it come December!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Disapointing

    by Leoridgway

    Looks like a blueman version of 'Last of the Mohicans' . I dont undersatnd if they wanted to create totoally cgi ' actors/creatures' why make them look so similar to humans, i dont see the point

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    couldn't they have just hired basketball players and painted the

    by Magic Rat

    I mean, would the audience really notice the difference between a 7-foot blue alien and a 8-foot blue alien? Outside of the ears (and tail), those blue creatures look just like those young European basketball centers that come to the NBA, all awkward and gangly. I'm sure there were at least a dozen Cameron could have gotten for the movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You're right, subtle ain't in the Cameron lexicon. And this is definitely a 'soldier going native' story. Cameron said he looked at 'Emerald Forest' and 'At Play in the Fields of the Lord' going into it. But at least we're getting a story. What was the story in 'Star Trek'? Or 'Terminator Salvation'? Cameron is a storyteller. Bay, Abrams and McG ain't.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    teamneedle

    by ominus

    i already mentioned the motion of the skin (essentially the texture of the cgi) when the navi is on the table.watch it,pay attention to how interacts with the light,how the shadow appear and disappear,make also a comparison of the real life actors in the same.now imagine that in the big screen,not in a hdtv or monitor.is it bad,one of the same,good or great?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    as j_difool said, its the lack of shadows that is the problem

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    they need to put shadows in there to create realism. or else it would look like a bad video game

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Bad design well rendered.

    by mindlight

    I don't get it.. We've got the technology to create awesome photo realistic creatures and worlds never before seen, so why have we ended up with a slightly distorted humanoid blue bi-pedal creature? Was CGI even needed for these guys? Some basketballers and some prosthetics could've come close to this. The tiger stripes and the pointy ears kinda remind me of Star Trek where the budget limited them to only create alien races by adding prosthetics to human faces, or like when they updated the design of Godzilla because the old one looked like a guy in a suit... only to design a creature that looking like a guy in a slightly more expensive suit. Couldn't they at least have positioned the eyes in a different position? The CGI in District 9 was technically of lesser quality, but the designs at least felt alien and justified the CGI approach. Also why do the landscapes look like a floating version of the Blue Mountains in Australia? Glad the photo reference trip paid off for the matte painting team.. but for some reason I was expecting a truely otherworldly experience with unique plant life not just a hodge-podge ripoff of our own world. I mean what are the chances in this universe of finding life on a planet so similar to ours? Even on our own planet there are creatures and environments that are far more alien to us than this. The Abyss had AWESOME alien creatures. What happened? I hope tomorrow goes better, and I don't come away feeling like this is just an expensive sequel to Arthur and the Invisibles.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Pause the trailer

    by kwisatzhaderach

    when the gunship flies past the floating mountains...check out the rockface detail!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Come on, this looks REALLY cheesy...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Certainly not on the level of genre-defining entertainment such as LotR and the original Star Wars that we were lead to believe. I'll still see it, obviously...as others have said, hopefully it'll look better in 3D. But this is a major letdown...also, notice Jake's Avatar's mouth doesn't even match his THREE WORDS of dialogue. Not a good sign...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    I really don't buy Benicio Del Toro in this at all

    by Series7

    His accent sound odd, like English may be his second language (and he just learned it for this movie). But Anthony was looking pretty bad ass. Almost wish Anthony was the Wolfman instead.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Whoever says the CGI looks like crap....

    by The_Coyote

    Shut the fuck up. You don't know what you're talking about. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. I'm not defending the film itself, I've only seen 26 minutes of it. But to say the effects are cartoony and horrible, it just makes you look foolish. Because they don't and you're wrong. The rendering on these creatures is quite amazing. They have pores, they have tear ducts, small little facial tics. Every little subtle piece of facial movement that we see in humans has been transferred here. The movement is quote incredible as well, although we don't have context for a lot of these scenes (the hospital scene looks spazzy, but that's only because the character is supposed to be groggy and tripping around, and the one piece of movement we see is of the avatar stumbling forward and catching himself on the glass). Say what you want about the content of the story, but to make idiotic statements that are clearly nothing more than exaggerated whining and bitching just makes it harder for this to be a place to actually dicuss film.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    ...the only problem I see is the movement...body and face.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Burgundy82

    Your opinion ceased to be valid the second you lumped Abrams in with Bay and McG.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Not gonna lie

    by Sardonic

    I'd bang that blue chick

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    The reality is...

    by Azlam Orlandu

    ...it's going to be a pretty cool film no matter what. Hype or no hype. It may not be the best filim ever and it may exceed our expectations. Either way the world is a better place with a new Cameron film in it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Oops wrong TB again

    by Series7

    Sorry. Is Harry still upset about that One Hour Photo guy pussing out on this or something?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    heres a image that proves how fake it looks

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    http://tinyurl.com/mws7h9

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    ...and amazing rendering makes average motion look...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...worse by comparison.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Looks fucking awesome!

    by ApneicMonkey

    It looks like the kind of movie you get when a creative as fuck Director is given free reign and he decides to show us a world we've only ever dreamed about. Fuck the naysayers - I've never been to Pandora in real life to see what a Na'Vi actually looks like so I'm sure as hell going to take James Cameron's word for it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Well I'm looking forward to it...

    by jenjen21

    I thought the trailer was beautiful - truly breathtaking. I guess I can understand people not liking it but I don't get the hate - you're bashing it when you've seen two minutes of footage and not even in 3D. It seems as if some of you would only be satisfied if Cameron had actually somehow genetically engineered the Na'vi for real and filmed them instead.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    The_Coyote

    by Series7

    The Wheelchair work in X-Men 1 looked better then Best Actor nominie for Avatar, Sam Worthington's wheelchair.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    blue chick image

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    http://tinyurl.com/mws7h9 <p> see that blue chick in the back. thats the one i would fuck if i had a chance

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Sorry haters, that was awesome

    by Browncoat_Jedi

    You can go back to your Blomkamp circle jerk now.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach, agreed

    by YackBacker

    Those other directors you mention are not storytellers, you're right. They're technicians, moving equipment around to make things go boom, etc.<p> I'm mostly excited by the fact that this isn't a remake, adaptation or some other rehash. That's why D-9 worked so well- it wasn't an established "property." I hope AVATAR is good. I don't need it to bring me to Nirvana. Just take me to someplace new and interesting for a couple of hours. That's why I love movies, that's why I go to see them.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    BTW, The Wolfman trailer actually looks

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    MUCH better than this, and I loathe the Idiot Johnston for that fucked-up clusterfuck that killed off the JP franchise...still, I'll take Rick Baker over excessive CGI crap any day of the week.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Emily Blunt what you nerds wish Zooey Deschanel

    by Series7

    looked like.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    ...in fact, the better the rendering the heavier the burden...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...on the animation.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    dixholster, that looks like a possibly real alien planet

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    this is the trailer that blew my mind away:

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    http://tinyurl.com/noy8ol <p> not this avatar crap

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    When it works it is awesome, when the CGI is crappy - it sucks.

    by kellek1974

    Yes when Sam smiles - Totally awesome. The avatar in the tank and waking up etc - awesome. Creature in woods with "wet look" CGI - looks great! The bamboo looks great. Sam landing and wheeling off and looking around at beginning - TOTALLY CRAP CGI, looked like video game footage. When the aircraft flys in and you see CGI guys hanging off - again crappy CGI. Still waiting for last 10 seconds to load....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Photorealism

    by SminkyPinky

    It's all ther ein the N'avi. Until I see their eyes. But eyes are tricky buggers to get right, in puppets or CG. The environment looks great, so far. But I don't think that the filmmakers should be relying on 3D too much for the effects to looks better or there's going to be a lot of annoyed 2D viewers who have no choice given their location or circumstances. I might get over the eyes when I see it in proper action/context as part of an emotionally compelling story. Oh, and Star Trek did have a story.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT TOMORROW IN IMAX

    by 420 Boylston St

    Sorry guys. I have th epatience to see this on the big screen.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Spot on, they're technicians.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    To sum up The_Coyote's post:

    by Burgundy82

    I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALL EMBARRASSING YOURSELVES BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THIS. THESE CREATURES AMAZE YOU AND THAT IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    even though I'm underwhelmed, I'll still see it. and so will you

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Low tech rebels vs high tech imperialism? Really?

    by ebolamonkey

    Seriously? I've seen this story enough times that I think I've already seen this movie. They just set it in Jurassic Park.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Edgar Rice Burroughs fans will be pleased...

    by dogu4

    ...at long last. So will Robert E. Howard's devotees, and Lovecraftians, and Terry Pratchett. The teaser looks great and I want to see it of course and I'll overlook the eco-message's apparent preachey-ness and the ferngully parallels, but throughout the reel I constantly flashed on the idea that at long-last some of Edgar Rice Burroughs' world, such as Pelucidar or the strange ape/human hybrids in lost cities in a mythical Africa can at last be realized on the screen in a convincing way. Maybe this is why the few recent efforts to create Burrough's martian world have been side-tracked; knowing that this new technology would make any earlier attempt forgettable and weak. How long before Rodriquez has one of these set-ups in his home digital movie studio? It's a given that every new technology in photo and film and video has always been propelled in its early days by conoisseurs whose tastes run toward the pornographic. There must be some amazing erotica being developed using this technique.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Thanks, I appreciate it. Judging from what we already know by the story, I'd say your take is probably about right. As a storyteller, Cameron is more of a by-the-numbers guy. But his technical prowess and knack for effective action sequences cannot be denied.<P>(I'm a little dismayed by the comments on the CGI quality - so much as been made about this, you'd think it would be the one thing they would absolutely nail down for a teaser trailer.)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Fuck you The_Coyote

    by Franco Begbie

    Who the fuck are you to tell us whether or not something looks fake to us. I've just watched that trailer and it looks like the fucking CG cartoons I watch with my son on a Saturday morning. I don't care what you do or don't know about the technical whys and wherefores that went into this. I'm the fucking consumer and to me, it looks fake. It looks fake. It looks fucking fake.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Burgundy82

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Abrams is a TV director, a proficient one. But he has no cinematic talent. His shot selection in MI3 and Star Trek is sloppy as fuck.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Coyote and Emperor...

    by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER

    It's ok that others feel differently than you. You're excited for the film and that's fine..but to cap on an overwhelming amount of people who are underwhelmed by the somewhat disappointing CGI (and it is NOT the best CGI to date no matter what you say), is both arrogant and narrow-minded. If it looks good enough for you and you'll enjoy the film, that's fine. But don't try and condescend to people who feel differently....there have simply been better rendered creatures than this. The planet itself looks good but the rendering on the Na'vi just doesn't quite live up to all the hype (which isn't necessarily Cameron's fault...most of the 'eyefuckery' crowd have themselves to blame for the frenzy). But seriously...don't be condescending assholes. It's beneath you.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    http://tinyurl.com/kvfay6

    by ThePilgrim

    WTF??????

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Yeah, The_Coyote, because

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    your bitching and moaning about the moaners and bitchers really helps. Now fuck off with your delusional Cameron apologism, tit-smacker!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    DioxholsterUnbound, too bad that blue chick is SO fake!

    by YackBacker

    You cannot fuck her.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    the planet visuals look great because we never seen one

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    any space or planet visuals will look real no matter what. its the creatures and the overall feel that has to be real

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    It will look better on a big screen

    by krabklaw

    True, it may look overly sharp and clean on a computer moniter, but it could look fantastic when it's blown up. Plus, it's going to be in 3D, so it's not fair, or even really possible to judge the look of the movie from this sample.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Jesus, guys!!

    by Flibbertygibbet

    I'm amazed you folks are bitching about the CGI. Seriously, you don't know you're born! To my mind, the artistry involved here is so incredible that if you brought <insert your favourite classical artist> back from the dead and showed this to them, they would never paint again. Now, if you want to question the plot, fill your boots...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    The visuals on Wild Pacific on Discovery last month

    by Series7

    BLOW THIS AWAY.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    The reason people are disgruntled, The_Coyote

    by Burgundy82

    and YackBacker and kwisatzhaderach, for that matter, is because District 9 has CG that was UNQUESTIONABLY more convincing, at a sliver of the budget. Cameron talked a big game, like he always does, and it inevitably led to disappointment. He deserves the backlash — End. O. Story.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    3D

    by master_of_realty

    I don't know if I can risk wasting another trip to the theater on 3D after the blurry distraction that was BEOWULF IN GROUNDBREAKING 3D. Has it really gotten any better since then? If not, my movies will remain two dimensional.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Bollocks...

    by Flibbertygibbet

    That was supposed to read "if you brought any classical artist back from the dead"...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Cameron's mom

    by Series7

    Always told him not to play so much Mist, its was going to rot his mind.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Alien Chick... LOOKS LIKE... Agelina...

    by TheBLIGHT

    From CERTAIN angles... Looks like the Alien Chick is modeled after Angelina Jolie... Cute.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    The rotoscope artist who worked on the

    by ThePilgrim

    scene with the guy being pulled out of the craft by that rotten racoon face based flying thing. That dude needs to be fired. Frame by frame that shit. Ugly gross rush job. Hope it's not final.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Burgundy82

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I haven't seen District 9 yet. Looking forward to it though.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Backlash

    by SminkyPinky

    How about some of you bored fools wait until you see the finished film, story and all, befoe you begin your inevitable and wilfully ignorant rants about the actual film?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    This isn't a remake???

    by Leoridgway

    It might not be but the story has been told plenty of times before. Now just in Cgi-o-vision with Bluemen. I will certainly see it, but im not expecting it to give me a woody

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    I told my co-workers about this

    by Series7

    And they told me to shut up, because the new trailer for Alvin and the Chipmunks 2 just came out today and they'd rather watch that.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    It looks like a cartoon!

    by Sithdan

    Hahahahahahaha! So much for the hype. Star Wars will forever be the pinnacle of science fiction!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    ill just fuck the equivalent you know, like a human female perhaps

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    Is this the whole plot?

    by Rubiks Doob

    Ok- from watching this trailer here's the story: Jake Sully is a disenchanted war veteran who gets a second chance to 'make a difference' by enlisting in a special program to infiltrate the Nav'i people on the planet Pandora and help turn the tide on a losing military conflict. Of course, once he meets the Navi up close and falls in love, he realizes that Everything He Knows Is Wrong and instead switches sides to help the natives turn back the imperialist marines and save the ecological beauty of Pandora. If that's basically it wow, that's incredibly cliche and stupid. Please tell me that other than the details there's more to Avatar than this because if not, wow I'm sad for JC. Because that's about the most obvious story one could tell. Like no kidding, war=wrong and natives=should be left alone.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    we have nipple!

    by ironic_name

    http://tinyurl.com/nv3vbg

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    I KNEW IT! The only terrible thing this did to my eyeballs was b

    by Johnny Smith

    If I wanted to see a movie about the Smurfs, I'd take Shrooms and go watch a Blue Man Group performance.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    I'll probably see it but..

    by Dkev00

    The CGI isn't very good. Nothing game changing for sure.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    where do you work? coz they sound dumb

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Wolf Man trailer looks more entertaining

    by apollocandy

    I cant wait for that film!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Reminded me too often of World of Warcraft. But i still have hop

    by caipirina

    I really want to like this movie .. i loved the 90 page treatment and some of the imagery in this teaser is great (the floating rocks) albeit too CG looking (maybe our HD eyes?) But maybe this will all come together once one focuses on the story instead of the effects ... and why was there no Sigourny Weaver in this teaser ... and why do na'vi women bother with clothing (ah, its an american movie) .. Loved how someone else read my mind and called this 'the next pixar movie' ...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    we have nipple! 2!

    by ironic_name

    http://tinyurl.com/lx2l9u

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Story Matters

    by Ultraman2000

    As with any film, the story has the potential to sell the effects. D9 is a prime example of that principle. My top questions now are: Will the story go beyond the Manifest Destiny cliches evident in the trailer? And will the characters be worthy of our emotional investment? Cameron's never demonstrated much facility with nuance. Let's hope that's part of the paradigm shift here.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Sithdan

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    You are aware of how utterly fucking ridiculous your post is, right? Or I guess not...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Also...

    by scaryskeleton

    This movie was meant to be seen in 3D. I know a lot of hyperbole is thrown around and many movies say that, but the colors and the way the shots are framed, it is all with 3d in mind. Its a VERY bright movie, so that when you put the glasses on, the tint will be just right. All I can say, is that seeing the footage on a big screen with 3D glasses on really did feel revolutionary, to the point that I was grinning like a 8 year old, and I cannot wait to see the whole movie. I think this is why Cameron is baiting everyone to see the free imax footage, because that is the only way to really prepare people for what a new experience will really be like. An original sci-fi movie with a story and believable characters in realistic 3d that for the first time actually makes you forget that you are watching a 3d movie. Isn't that what we all want? A new experience?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    "Inception" trailer STAT..

    by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    So much hate here. We need a Nolan circle jerk.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    GAME changeR

    by PeanutButterSlut

    Boom Baby!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    on second thoughts . . . awesome

    by Bitchassmother

    Actually, this looks pretty f..kin cool. I was affraid by the comments. I was worried by the comic-con buzkill. I was blown away by district 9. And you know what? Avatar look's awesome. It looks absolutely fuckin great. The CGI DID look like CGI in a number of scenes and I was dissapointed by the initial 'look' and feel but you know what? I watched that trailer a couple more times and the aliens look really, really good. I mean, I do get the fakey feeling about their shiny-ness but I'm over it already and NOW I see all this extra detail in them and the emotions they seem to be conveying is working on me. Really digging in particular the scene where the hot alien babe is crying and the bit where she is first revealed. I'm knowing she's animated but I'm sympathizing with her subconsciously and it makes me wanna watch more. It looks like a different kind of experience altgether. I'm kind of seeing this know as an animated movie that is transcending animation rather than a live action movie that has 'phot-real' effects work. All I'm saying is, it looks like a whole lot of fun and my eyeballs are starting to feel a bit emotional. Bring it on. Fuck the haters.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Rubiks Doob

    by Series7

    Ummm YEAH HELLO! There is a whole side story of Crysta trying to stop Hexxus from taking over the rain forest. With the aid of Christian Slater as a bat!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    *did to my eyeballs was bore them.

    by Johnny Smith

    Fucking subject line limit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Is this just ttest FX?

    by Wes_Reviews_

    ...Because, wow. What a colossal build-up and letdown. I guess CGI people just can't fool the naked eye like Cameron had hoped/hyped. Everytime I saw a shot of one of the CG characters, it took me out of the trailer. Looked like a cartoon. Sorry.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    The goggles do nothing!!

    by Dapper Swindler

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Trailer for SF comic Goldilock!

    by StrokerX

    Looks just as good :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN06-LzHGnU<p> for realz

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Or Robin Williams

    by Series7

    As the Bat, I can't remember from the comic con footage who the voice actor was.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    CGI was brilliant

    by PeanutButterSlut

    Comon guys, you cant sit there and say this isnt the best stuff u have seen recently. I think you guys should see this movie, I'm not a plant, scouts honor. Avatar is win guyZ

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    And yet Avatar Day Tix are SOLD OUT

    by aceattorney

    All you people are dying to watch this movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    I'm behind the times

    by Vote Fa Stokes Brutha

    So EVERYTHING in this teaser is motion capture CG, or is some of it live action? Because if so, that's pretty impressive.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    More CGI?

    by Hargy99

    It just looks like another Star Wars cartoon : (

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Rubiks Doob

    by SminkyPinky

    How about the lone survivor of a terrible incident goes back to the face the monster again only to wind up among the very few survivors yet again. It's the execution which counts. I have faith in more than special effects and will wait until I see how the story is executed.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    More CGI?

    by Hargy99

    It just looks like another Star Wars cartoon : (

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach re: District 9 effects

    by Burgundy82

    I don't want to oversell this, because too much hype is an enemy to ANY film, but I will say that my girlfriend and I were halfway through a discussion about the movie before either of us even THOUGHT to bring up the effects. Meaning, they were so seamlessly integrated into that world, that we kind of forgot we weren't looking at people in costume. I would also recommend going in completely spoiler-free. These TBs are treacherous as far as that goes, but the marketing dept. has done an exemplary, WALL*E-esque job of giving away precious little of the plot in the trailers.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    by Sithdan

    For months I've read nothing but how much eyeball fucking Avatar was going to inflict. People (without seeing so much as a production shot) were harping that Avatar was going to be the "next Star Wars." After seeing this cartoon of a trailer, I can't help but laugh my ass off at all of them. For a while I thought I was watching scenes from the next Shrek film, hahahahahahahahaha!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    DioxholsterUnbound

    by Series7

    Where do I work? Ummm America? $217,326,974 on a 60 million dollar costing movie = PROFIT LIKE A MOFO!!!! God bless this land.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    New Wolfman trailer...

    by Dkev00

    kicks the shit out this trailer by a country mile.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Not sold on it. Heres why:

    by wowsah156

    It looks like what Lucas would have done if he was put in charge of a Dark Crystal sequel. Also the CGI in the teaser doesnt look good. Very very disappointing. I look forward to Jame Cameron doing a movie about teenage rentboys in Russia based on Lars Von Trier's Dogma philosophy...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    What Are You Guys Saying... I Can't Read It

    by Autodidact

    My eyeballs just got fucked out of their sockets. Seriously those saying that's not impressive are a little bit goofy. Bet this'll be one of the first 120hz blu-ray discs, and I'll probably have to upgrade to a 3D-ready display by the Fall of 2010!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Rubiks Doob, you're forgetting: this is cameron.

    by ironic_name

    the na'avi will be decimated. every one will be slaughtered. and sigorney will find a pidgin english scrawlling from sam worthington's avatar telling the na'avi religion stories that make her cry. the end.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    It doesn't look BAD it's just not that SPECIAL.

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    Hundreds of million dollars and they still can't get CG skin to crease properly at the joints or make the muscles move right under the skin. Moveable marble statues. This is a step above 'Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within', but not a giant leap. I do think the comparison to Phantom Menace is very, very apt. <p>Let me be clear: I don't personally hate Cameron or the people who worked on Avatar, I'm just disappointed in everything that I've seen so far. If we're not meant to judge a film by its trailer then why make a trailer?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    I was excited for the Avatar screening tomorrow until I saw this

    by TheMark

    Seriously? Terrible teaser. All I understand is that if you are in a wheelchair, you can turn into a blue alien. If that were the case, I wouldn't have spent my youth in physical therapy. <br> <br> Seriously though. I thought this was pretty weak looking aside from the battle sequences. I know that Cameron knows what he's doing but...well, he hasn't done a movie in like 15 years now, so maybe he, like the rest of his contemporaries, has lost his touch.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    I am now on board

    by Sonny_Williams

    My eyeballs are still drowned in a creampie of awesomeness! If these visuals are accompanied by Cameron's typical solid storytelling this will be out-of-the-park greatness.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Maaaaan, I don't give a FUCK.

    by Traumnovelle

    That shit looks incredible.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    My impression

    by tomimt

    I've been skeptical about this whole movie and I must say, that this trailer looks much better than I expected. But There still is much in it, that looks like 3D cartoon. Should end up entertaining though.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Sithdan

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Oy...I was referring to your exclamation of "Looks like a cartoon! Star Wars will forever be the pinnacle of science fiction!", when the last three Star Wars movies WERE a shitty-looking cartoon...for Serling's sake...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    It doesn't look that cartoony

    by MandrakeRoot

    Some shots look pretty bad (only on a photo-real level), but many of the shots are indistinguishable from CGI. The chopper flying through the mountains looks damn flawless, the first few shots of the Navi's hands and feet, and some shots of the female Navi look great up close. (p) I agree some landscape shots are too bright and painting light, hopefully that will be changed, or different in the theater. Also some of the Navi's face look a little off, as well as the creatures look good but not photo-real. But seriously, anyone saying this looks like an XBOX game, please point me to that game.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Don't go to an interview

    by PeanutButterSlut

    with a giant dildo on ur head. Cameron is interviewing for a job at the theater, basically, when he released a trailer. He has a good resume, but all you see is a big dong rendered in CG plastered on his head. Don't know where I'm going with this, got really stoned before the trailer... <p> BTW getting high helps! AVATAR, fucking your eyeballs "if your high" in 2009!!!! <p> Seriously though I went full screen w/the frenchy trailer while smoked out and it was more-epic-er

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Video Game Cutscene

    by fiester

    That's what it looks like. Sorry but that's the truth. I'm sure it's entertaining, but "visionary" seems overly generous.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    and yeah...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    The trailer definitely had the feel of a Star Wars prequel. But alas, the hype machine will continue to churn and salavate over this BS.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    haters...i got your meal ready

    by Six Demon Bag

    a big bowl of warm crow!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Episode One -- The Avatar Menace

    by madCanada

    ... I'm sure I saw Jar Jar Binks in one of those shots.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    My eyeballs were faking it.

    by Lashlarue

    "No. No it's not true."-James Cameron

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    loos sortof "DARK CRYSTAL"ish

    by beefywhore

    not really as impressive as I'd hoped, but its about Godamn time we got a teaser.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    franco begbie?

    by richardphilip

    they let you have kids ? goodness.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Here we go...

    by yiannis

    Sometimes a rant is necessary, so could people on here stop their whining for just a moment to consider a few of these points:<br><br>1) First of all, out of all the people above hurling their pathetic abuse, it might even be an understatement to say that 90% will still watch the movie in the cinema, thereby defining themselves as hypocrites. The opinion of a hypocrite is worth less than zero, so do the rest of us a favour and keep it to yourself.<br><br>For the other 10% who WON'T watch this movie, well done! You have the courage of your convictions. Unfortunately, you've decided to base your opinion of a 180 minute movie on 2 minutes of footage. That is simply D-U-M-B. It is not possible, logically, empirically, hell even linguistically, to form a valid opinion at this stage, therefore you are making a decision not to see this movie based primarily on your own prejudices. The opinion of prejudiced people is worth even less than that of hypocrites, so again move along, please.<br><br>Now, onto the footage itself...<br><br>3) Let's just stop this nonsense right now that 360 game somehow have better graphics, ok? I like my games, but to suggest that ANY game is even close to that is simply making a stupid point to fit in with the other haters. Somebody with more computer skills than me PLEASE put up a picture of a Na-vi from that trailer (Zoe Saldana one crying over her fallen colleague lit by flames would be a good one) next to a troll from WoW (closest match I can think of off the top of my head) and try telling me the troll looks more "real" while keeping a straight face...<br><br>4) For anyone saying it doesn't look "photo real", first of all what the fuck is "photo real" really, beyond a nice buzz word for effects companies etc to use and secondly hands up anyone here who's ever seen a photo of a 10ft tall blue alien with smooth, poreless skin and bioluminescent markings?<br><br>5) Of course, Cameron has already fooled half of you once. Remember the still a few weeks back of the avatar in the tank with Worthington next to it? Go back on that talkback and count the number of times people said "puppet". Guess what? It's CGI! If people are looking at a computer generated image and HONESTLY believe they are looking at a real, on set, three dimensional object, wouldn't you say that is as good a definition as any of "photo real"?<br><br>6) While we're on the subject of 10ft tall blue aliens and CGI, is there honestly anyone out there that REALLY thinks you can create something like that any way other than CGI? Of course not! That means you KNOW already that what you are looking at is computer generated and therefore your eyes are able to perceive this fact. So what? As someone above already said, Gollum was CGI as well. We all knew it and could tell with the simplest of visual inspections, but the story, dialogue and especially Andy Serkis' performance were strong enough that it didn't matter. Do you think it might just be possible to afford this film a chance to prove itself in similar fashion?<br><br>7) On the whole story/script/performance side of things, we must remain in the dark until the film is released, naturally. However, judging just on the treatment (yes, I know it's been changed considerably since then), I feel that there is a strong story behind this film. Furthermore, Cameron has a proven track record of being able to get strong, believable performances from actors (Ripley, SC, pretty much the entire cast of the Abyss). Maybe not Oscar winning, grandstanding performances, but you always believe that the character is a real person, especially with strong female characters and military personnel, which - guess what? - this film is full of. Sure, Cameron is as guilty as any writer of the odd clunking line of dialogue (and not just in Titanic), but if people hated every movie that had the odd bad line then they would hate everything. Hang on a minute...<br><br>People are entitled to their opinions, but to form their opinion of this film based just on this teaser is stupid. I'm more than happy to form my opinion at the correct time: on December 16th, right around the time the end credits start to roll

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    All the haters will change their minds

    by aceattorney

    As soon as Harry declares it golden.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    We've been burned BAD by Lucas and the Wachoffs

    by performingmonkey

    Yes it looks like a videogame environment but it was always going to, it's what Cameron wanted.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Yes!

    by godhelpus

    Looks like full-on Cameron. I don't give a fuck if its perfect, it looks fantastic. Go out and do better of it annoys you. Can't wait!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Lashlarue

    by Burgundy82

    Nicely done.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    aceattorney, good one!

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Oh, wait, you were serious.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    remember Quicktime has high gamma

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    so maybe thats why its bright. anyone saw it with VLC instead should say something

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    I agree with fiester

    by Potatino

    it does look like a videogame cut scene.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Cameron With A Dong On His Head in 3D... Fucking Genius

    by Autodidact

    Jesus christ that would be fucking perfect.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    So you think this will be the season opener of South Park

    by Series7

    In the fall? Or will people already have forgotten about it by then?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    the opinions aren't on the film, yanni, they are on the trailer

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Burgundy...

    by The_Coyote

    Okay, I can understand that. But at the same time, is it fair to compare a film that was going for docu-style, gritty realism, to a film that is trying to achieve an entirely different aesthetic all together? Avatar is supposed to be an exaggerated fantasy sci-fi film, and as such the look is a little more glossy and "cartoony", if you will. I'm merely commenting on people saying it looks like a video game when it clearly doesn't. The filmmakers have created a planet from top to bottom, from the plant life and ecosystem to the composition of the atmosphere. The characters are clearly "true" to the environment that has been created for them. Light penetrates the outer layer of skin, they sweat and have pores. They're expressive in the same way humans are. True, District 9 feels more real to our world because it's SUPPOSED TO. The aliens and creatures in Avatar feel true to their world, which is foreign to ours. I understand if people don't like it, but to say it looks like a video game or like any other effects work, that's simply not true.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Ok

    by Cockpoop

    I'm conflicted. Read all the comments here...that trailer, despite the sometimes dubious CG was pretty damn good. I will agree with those that say that if this weren't a Cameron film I wouldn't see it, but I will say it was a good trailer. Hopefully it looks incredible in 3D on a giant screen. Time will tell. Sucks I don't have tickets for tomorrow...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    ~~~COOL! it's like GUNDAM meets ALIENS meets THE DARK CRYSTAL!~~

    by The Marquis de Side 3

    cannot frickkin wait man!!! =0)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    question about a specific scene in this trailer

    by Magic Rat

    the part near the end, when the marine gets grabbed by that creature's mouth and spit out the helecopter thing --- why does the marine have a tail? pause it at the right moment, you can see it, it's a freakin' tail.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Here we go...

    by Series7

    Anyone bitching about people bitching about this movie is a bitch.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    and tho this looks meh, STFU about cut scenes. ps7 will have cut

    by ironic_name

    and tho this looks meh, STFU about cut scenes. ps7 will have cut scenes that have this much polygons and renders.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Lashlarue: Titanic trailer

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    I HAD to go because they showed Leo and Kate on the ass end of the ship going straight into the Atlantic. Straight up cliffhanger jeopardy 101 right out of silent movies.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    thats the rope you jackass

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    why would it have a tail?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    "this looks like a cut scene", yeah, from 2020 on ps7

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Great Stuff, That Cameron T2 cold lens look was there

    by fisheater

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    District 9 is to Avatar like

    by gerrit4

    The Matrix was to The Phantom Menace. I had no expectations for TPH or D9, and they blew their counterpart out of the water in story, effects, longevity.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    magic rat, lanyard so he doesn't go out the side?

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Thanks ominus

    by catlettuce4

    Your meltdown was more entertaining that the clip. Speaking of which, was that footage just a collection of cutscenes or actual videogame play?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    The problem isn't that it's dark...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    It's that the CGI is total crap. It could be pitch black the entire movie, and the CGI would still suck. And yet, The Wolfman, with like an eight of the budget, doesn't look nearly as fake. This is actually the professional style in recent years: directors like calling attention to the CGI, in an attempt to "wow" people with the wizardry of said CGI. "Photo-real" my fat dino-molesting ass...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    whats ps7 ?

    by DioxholsterUnbound

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    This will be better than District 9

    by Beezbo

    As long as the plot is good. I'm a big fan of D9, but I can't overlook the plot holes (I know, they have been discussed to death here). Effects alone do not a classic make.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Series7, couldn't have said it better myself

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    yiannis

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Epic post. Congrats.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    oleg!

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Correction

    by gerrit4

    No expectations for the Matrix or D9

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    yiannis

    by Burgundy82

    You're wasting your breath man. It looks cartoony. It just does. We're not all lying to ourselves because we have it out for James Cameron or some shit. In fact, I think it's the opposite, if anything. Most of us are eagerly anticipating this film. Still. Now, that said, IT LOOKS FUCKING CARTOONY. Quit saying it doesn't. The fact is, it does, and we're all more than fucking entitled to think that. Your justifications are bunk. I know damn well there's no such thing as a six-and-a-half-foot shrimp alien, but that didn't stop them from looking real in District 9. WE'VE SEEN BETTER CG THAN THIS. That's what people are griping about. Now, the fact that it looks cartoony doesn't mean it's going to be a bad film. Or even an ugly film. The color palette is impressive, and the look of the film is GORGEOUS. It just, also, looks fake. That is all.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Correction

    by gerrit4

    No expectations for the Matrix or D9

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Avatar fans now have a nickname: Avatards

    by sevadro

    Look a-holes. We all love James Cameron and we are always rooting for the motherf*cker, but this shit is underwhelming as hell. As soon as Worthington shows up in his wheelchair on Pandora - the tomatoes start flying. Why? Because the trained eye can tell that shit is Episode One meets Matrix Revolutions. Blame my eye. Frankly, my stupid cat looks more alien than a na'vi. He looks more "photo-real" lol. When the movie comes out and we all say "meh with the CGI, but great everything else" so be it! Tell us we were wrong then. Until then - backlash. Severe backlash for talking the big game and not delivering something discerning cinephiles have been desperately desiring for decades. Deal with it JC sycophants and easily pleased, pointy transformer loving bitches.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    nevermind i got it

    by DioxholsterUnbound

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    that was fucking awesome....

    by iwasredempted

    i'm sorry. it's not going to change the world but fuck that was fucking cool. that grin when worthington sees his avatar is pure cameron. yes!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Avatards

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    the world is full of them

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Way too many dickdrinkers in this talkback

    by Shut_Your_Penispouch

    Definitely stoked to see this movie now. The sweatpantsed army of fags hating on this trailer can go back to tittyfucking their families foldout couch, nobodies listening.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    @yianis is CORRECT

    by fisheater

    I actually thought it looked like prosthetics at first.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Another thing

    by godhelpus

    I didn't get much of an impression from Sam Worthington until now. I can see now why people say he's good.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Cameron caught the George Lucas Flu

    by Sithdan

    He has all the symptoms!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    iwasredempted

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Exactly. A character moment. Something I haven't seen in a blockbuster for ages.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    godhelpus

    by Series7

    I know right! He totally put Jean-Luc and Daniel Day Lewis to SHAME!!!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    playstation7, with built in etkm so you can play with your brain

    by ironic_name

    and 46 year old elijah wood says "you have to play with your hands? not with this!"

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Final Fantasy

    by donkey_lasher

    All over again.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Looks fantastic

    by StrykerIsland

    Watching this on my PC monitor just wasn't cutting it for me, so I downloaded the 1080P file, and streamed it to my home theater in the living room via PS3 Media Server. Holy shit. I watched it like 4 or 5 times and my eyes and ears burn from the amazing. I may have to drive to Vancouver to see this on an IMAX screen before Christmas.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    To many dicks on the dance floor.

    by eric haislar

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    yiannis

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    People are SUPPOSED to form an opinion based on the teaser...that's what the teaser is for, to get people to WANT to see the movie. If people were excited about this thing, and the teaser dispelled that excitement, that's ass-backwards. Sigh...and as always, the apologists' excuses get lamer and less cohesive. BTW, every time a trailer for a film has sucked, and the apologists screamed, "WAIT UNTIL THE MOVIE COMES OUT", the film in question has always sucked. ALWAYS. So this doesn't look to good right now...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    WTF -- It's suppossed to be hyper realistic

    by masteroftheuniverse

    Dont you guys get it... if loooked exactly like live action or photo realism it wouldnt be transendant... your eye cant possible in reallife experience this hyper reality... that's what makes it mythological for fucks sake you guys think your so smart but youa re a bunch of whiny unforgiving assholes... AGAIN WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU EVER DONE IN YOUR PATHETIC LIVES. THIS GUY IS CHANGING THE GAME... IM ALL ABOUT DISTRICT 9 AND IT WAS FUCKING AMAZING BUT THIS IS THE CONVERGENCE OF ALL OF THE COLLECTIVE STORYTELLING CAPABILITIES WE HAVE... FILM, GAMING ETC. BE HAPPY ITS HERE...!!!!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Lobanhaki and ominous…

    by blakindigo

    Thank God, we've got you two on the board to make fucking sense of the what we're seeing in context…

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    So is Thirst

    by Series7

    Not getting a full release? Fuck that shit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Waiting

    by Rogue Trooper

    I'm going to wait until I see this on the big screen before I pass judgement but I think as a tease the trailer works rather well. I think it's important to consider that, in watching a trailer on your computer monitor, you're seeing out of context footage in way that it was not designed to be seen. Roll on tomorrow when I can see more footage in Edinburgh :-)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    I love to say I told you so. . .

    by jimmay

    And I specifically warned the Avatar fanboys about setting up expectations this movie was going to blow everyone's minds, solve the energy crisis, and bring peace to the Middle East. <p> Me, I have no expectations for this flick, I not only find Cameron overrated, I outright despise some of his films, but I'll probably be there opening week, I'm a big fan of digital 3D, and believe it is the future of video presentation-mark my words-and my guess is that's what Cameron's really attempting here, to be the first filmmaker to really get 3D 'right' so that skeptics stop brushing it off as a fad or a gimmick.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    yiannis

    by blakindigo

    YES!!! EPIC POST!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    masteroftheuniverse

    by Series7

    Yeah I know right, I hated Mist the game as well.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    electro telekinetic manipulation. like the force ball toy or nad

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    It's a 3-D movie. That's the merits it should be judged on.

    by The Gospel According to Bastardface

    I thought the trailer was underwhelming the first time, but amazing the second time. I am still insanely psyched for December!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    humans look too blurry when mixed with CGI

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    to make them blend i suppose

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by godhelpus

    I like that...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Well at least if this crashes and burns,

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    we have Spielberg and Jackson's 3D Tintin trilogy coming up! Oh, wait...oh, shit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    masteroftheuniverse

    by Burgundy82

    I'm taking a screencap of that post and putting it on my blog. You're hilarious, man.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I think it looks great

    by Kief_Ledger

    A few shoddy moments, but overall I thought the cgi was pretty incredible. Can't wait for tomorrow!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    @Fa_Tass_DinoMolester, Thats because Michael Bay has made movies

    by fisheater

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    for 10 years along with Snyder and McG

    by fisheater

    They all fucking suck

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    The CGI here is way better than AVATARs---

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    http://tinyurl.com/noy8ol

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    HALO IV Looks AMAZING!!1!

    by Zahaladeen

    I'll still spend my money on opening day - just a matinee.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    It looks great

    by m_prevette

    Fanboy whining aside...and is always expected ... the trailer looks great. Cameron's strength is bringing strong ( if soap opera-ish) character to his films ... here's hoping this will be no different. And also kudos for having trailer music that accents the trailer, instead of the stock heavy drums and choir.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Penispouch...

    by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER

    So much rage at people who disagree with you. Kind of sad really. Ah well....to each their own. By the way, are you grumpy because you can't get the taste of your dad's erection out of your mouth? Or just the inner realization you're a befuddled sheep? Enquiring minds want to know!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    @ yiannis

    by blakindigo

    Also, Cameron has got at least one Academy Award nominated performance form Sigourney Weaver.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    I want to see thirst.

    by ironic_name

    goodnight!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Looks cartoony?

    by scaryskeleton

    Have you seen it on a big screen with 3d glasses on? Oh, you're going by seeing it on a computer screen. Fair enough. Yes the trailer is underwhelming. There is no hint of story, or dialogue or character, so nitpicking the effects is all we can do. Let's see what people say tomorrow...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Does it look good?

    by JRcanReid

    Yes. Does it live up to the hype? Certainly not.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    One more complaint:

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    I know the Na'vi are based on Native Americans, but do they have to LOOK like Native Americans? Similar "hair", similar war-paint, similar clothing and technology. Yep, that's real "alien", real "visionary"...if ever we needed an "eye-roll" icon on AICN, it's now.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    WELL THAT WAS FUCKING DISAPPOINTING, THIS WILL BOMB…..

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Seriously, that was supposed to be PHOTOREALISTIC CGI?!?<br> <br>Firstly, the Na’vi look really fucking retarded. Secondly, despite my dislike of District 9, the Rock Lobsters looked great and that’s because they were being rendered against real backgrounds so the animators had to match them to environment conditions such as lighting. The problem with Avatar is that almost all the environments are fully CGI so there is nothing for the animators to work with in terms of reference which is why it really does look like cut scenes from a videogame. Thirdly, it truly looked like fucking DANCES WITH ALIENS IN OUTER SPACE and Cameron is badly mistaken if he thinks that an Aliens/Titanic crossover is going to do repeated business.<br> <br>Finally, I seriously think that this movie is going to fucking crash and burn. There is just NOTHING here that we haven’t seen before and we all know that Cameron isn’t any sort of great writer so I’m predicting that test screenings will get this pushed back to next summer because I sure as fuck don’t see this pulling in the bank of Titanic. It will be lucky to get back it’s production and marketing costs.<br> <br>What we have with Avatar is another Phantom Menace. A movie made by Director who’s spent way to much time away from the camera and has fallen in love with his CGI toys. Cameron really thinks that it’s justifiable to build 3D theatres across the country and charge people $20 to $25 a pop just for the so called “privilege” of seeing more shit put out by increasingly out of touch Directors like himself, Robert Zememkis, Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson?<br> <br>At this rate movie theatres will become a novelty luxury for those who can only afford it while the rest of us stay at home and either download or wait for the DVD. I weep for the future of cinema.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    I was watching the live action footage

    by donkey_lasher

    and thinking, "wow, is this how far CG has come nowadays?"<p> Then I saw the blue aliens.<p> Anyways, I'll probably go and see this. Not for the effects, but for the story.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Movie might be great. The aliens suck

    by bah

    Brains and, based on the trailer, ears might be fucked. Eyeballs are safe. There's no two ways about it: they look like cartoons, not living beings.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    eh, this will be a cool movie. the only ones who made it

    by ironic_name

    seem like such a big deal is retards on aicn. <P> its a movie. a fun looking movie, too.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    For some reason the humans look more CG

    by estacado1

    compared to the blue aliens. When everything else is CG and only the humans are not, it makes the humans look fake. My eyeballs will have to accept the fact that they will remain virgins even when December comes. Visual wise, it's not what it's all hyped to be. The easier CG stuff, the inanimate stuff like the flying ships and vehicles look unrealistic when compared to what we've seen achieved in other movies. What is shown in the trailer is GI Joe standard. They should be able to do better than that. The animals and creatures look better. What makes it look weird is the colors. The colors that they put on these living beings aren't natural colors that we are used to see on earth, it makes them look fake. But story wise, from what little they showed ,it looks like a great adventure movie. I can see it make a ton of money from the amount of toys it will sell.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    do blue aliens have vaginas?

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    because if they do then i know what will happen in the movie!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Has Cg actually improved since....

    by donkey_lasher

    ..Jurassic Park?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Underwhelming

    by beatleMatt

    It didn't quite grab me by the balls like I thought it would. I'll wait for the full trailer before I make my decision though.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    CCH Pounder

    by Series7

    What kind of name is that? Sounds like a porno name kind of.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    No... They don't get it.

    by MatrixMonkey

    The reason they don't get it, is because they have no imagination. They're completely incapable of going outside the box and draw themselves into an imaginary world. Everything has to be given to them, and right or wrong just about everything has with the increasing advancement in video games and subjecting it to those that suffer from ADD and hocked up on energy drinks. (With much apologies to my wife's nephew.)

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Burgundy82

    by yiannis

    Name a film with better CGI, then, and reasons why...<br><br>I get that people are excited about D9 - can't wait to see it myself -, but the comparison is unfair. D9 is taking a world we know (slums of Joburg) and inserting CGI elements into it. They are able to use dust, mist and all manner of tricks and MORE IMPORTANTLY, are able to tweak lighting etc to perfectly match the REAL footage over which the CGI is placed. Furthermore, I am under the impression that the D9 aliens have little, if any, in the way of recogniseable human emotions, at least facially.<br><br>This, on the other hand, is an entire world created in CGI, meaning there is no "real world" element to allow your eyes to, effectively, trick themselves. Furthermore, we are talking about CGI creatures with essentially human faces, who are giving a performance, not some shellfish faced obvious alien.<br><br>In my opinion, the ONLY frame of reference we have to judge these characters is Gollum and, as I said, without seeing the entire performance it is STILL an unfair comparison. If people dislike the WORLD, or some of the more obviously "animal" creatures, maybe I might listen a bit more attentively, but the Na'vi simply have no comparison in film to date.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978

    by blakindigo

    The release date is locked to December 18th. It's all or nothing now…

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    The eyes have it.

    by Burgundy82

    Just figured it out. It's those giant fucking irises they have that are making my brain register "CARTOON."

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach....

    by iwasredempted

    a point and a nod to you my friend. also it's in the eyes. yeah all the jokes about eyeball fucking. but my main concern was is it going to be like soulless eyes you would see ala beowolf? or is it going to convey some very subtle emotions. and i believe it does.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    freeze frame the chick on the dactyl, looks real

    by ironic_name

    and nipple.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    CCH Pounder sounds like a McDonalds burger!

    by blackmantis

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    The planet looks awesome

    by donkey_lasher

    On second viewing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    How real?

    by Rogue Trooper

    For all the folks saying the aliens don't look real how many real aliens have you see for comparison? I'd be interested to know.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Yiannis - my thoughts.

    by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER

    A movie with better CG? King Kong (not a great movie but the island was better realized than this). 30 Days of Night was largely CG and looked cooler (while also not a great film from a narrative standpoint). Sunshine was also largely CG and looked so much more vastly amazing on a visceral level than this.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    estacado1

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    exactly humans look more CGI. JC knows we will compare the cgi with the photoreal humans

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    4 more months to go Jim

    by The Rebel

    I'll bet Jim is on a private jet flying back to NZ / Weta right now to have some kind of evaluation. Lol! 4 more months to go Jim, 4 more months to overhall those blue boys!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Hard to say

    by Frojitsu

    It's pretty, but no plot details in the teaser. I have no problems with cartoons, though, which Avatar seems to be.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    gerrit4

    by master_of_realty

    So you've seen Avatar? How was it? Dish!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    ironic_name--- so alien women are topless ??

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    we get to see boobs?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Basement...

    by Shut_Your_Penispouch

    Your erection line drinks more dudeglue than you do. Go back to motorboating your uncles fartbox for strawberry milk money.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    by yiannis

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no!!! People are NOT - EVER - supposed to base their opinions on a trailer. That is wrong-headed thinking of the worst kind. The purpose of a trailer is, was and always will be to make people WANT to see a film. Wanting to see a film is TOTALLY different from having an opinion about it.<br><br>If you, or anyone else, has already formed your opinion YOU ARE WRONG. If you actually see the film and your opinion differs from mine (once I've seen the film too), then that's perfectly fine. That is what an opinion is. You might want to consider that...

  • After watching it on the fucking french MSN, it was one of the first dunks who bitched and moaned about the cartoony crapfest that this movie was going to be, but then Apple got its shit together and I saw it on 720p, fuck, I am man enough to recognize when I'm wrong, and I was wrong, the improvement in quality from crappy regular MSN stream to 720p is enormous, I haven't watched it on 1080p yet, but I bet it is way, way, way better, if that's the case, then the looks of it on the highest resolution of all (IMAX) and 3D will more than likely fuck my eyeballs anyways this coming December. Wow, I'm an idiot for calling this film crap based on a shitty streaming video, my faith has been rewarded. You go James Cameron, fuck my eyeballs, please fuck'em hard!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    CCH Pounder

    by saint seiya

    lmao @ the burger remark. She kicks ass in the shield and in ENd OF DAYS ! !!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    From the director of "the" Titanic?

    by G Suave

    200 million evidently doesn't buy you a proofreader...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Penispouch...

    by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER

    Come on bro..you can do better than that! At least try and pretend you come armed with more intellectual ammo than a 4th grader. C'mon try again..give us another!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I’D RATHER SEE A VERHOVEN DIRECTED STARSHIP TROOPERS SEQUEL…..

    by CarlThorMark1978

    At least then we’d be virtually guaranteed an entertaining Sci-fi flick with some hardcore gore, some nudity and some quality satire instead of Avatar which appears to be some new-agey piece of shit wank from a fucking megalomaniac. Star Trek trailer was more exciting for fuck sakes!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    I'll be rooting for the humans to win. Those blue 'tards deserve

    by spadge1976

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Cameron should never have put out a trailer.

    by gingerella

    Think of the frenzy come December if we literally hadn't seen a still. Like when Raiders came out in '81 and no-one knew a fucking thing about it. He's bigger than that. He should have kept the whole thing under wraps. Now he has to contend with 4 months of disappointed fan boys analyzing every pixel.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    So, linking with your navi resembles travelling through the STAR

    by turketron_2

    See 1:00 on the French teaser, haha. I think everything looks cool... EXCEPT the Navi.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Gate

    by turketron_2

    Stargate I meant to say.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    TO ALL THE HATERS, READ THIS (MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY):

    by --- Emperor ---

    "Hopefully by now you've been able to see the Avatar trailer, despite the technical problems that seem to now be required when it comes to any Avatar-related event. Whether you managed to get through to Apple's high-res versions or watched it through our embed, you've at least got an idea of what James Cameron is going for in the movie he says will change the world. So what did you think? For me, the trailer sucks. Having seen 25 minutes of the film at Comic Con, I was able to piece together which footage came from which seen, and hazard a guess at what the hell was going on when blue people rode on the backs of dragons and wielded spears at one another. But for the people who have never seen footage of the film before-- which is a whole lot of people-- the trailer seems needlessly disorienting and vague. Why not a single word of dialogue? Why not even an indication of the plot, beyond the basic plot description "Sam Worthington lives inside his avatar and runs around an alien planet." Why only show your hand halfway? I get that they're trying to follow up on the promises that Avatar looks like nothing ever has, and would rather show off as many flashy scenes as possible rather than ease you into this world. But the Quicktime format is so limiting, especially for a 3D movie, that the impact of all the CGI wizardry is muted anyway. Already people are complaining that Sam Worthington's Avatar doesn't look realistic, that the blue skin looks fake, because they haven't had enough time to see it move like a human, hear it talk, or see it respond to its world. Having seen it in Hall H, I promise it works. It just needs time to settle in, and just by showing one complete scene at Comic Con, they sold the effect entirely. Cutting together all the random scenes in the trailer just makes you more disoriented. But even if you can't show off your technology in a trailer, you can at least hint at the story, which I wrote from Comic Con was the most exciting part of the movie. This isn't just a big-budget spectacle about people running around in space. It's a deeply felt, mythic story, the kind that Cameron has proved time and time again he's great at telling. Even if the Na'vi will take some getting used to, the hero's journey is an instantly recognizable story, and the hook that will get people to take a chance on this strange sci-fi. The footage shown at Avatar Day should definitely get that across, but I'm worried that the word online will remain that the CGI looks weird and fake. My best hope is that, after Avatar Day, Fox releases just a bit of a complete scene online, giving the rest of the world a chance to see these characters with more context, and understand that, at heart, it's a story as old as the written word. This trailer, for all its visual magic, just wasn't capable of getting that across. " Taken from http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Avatar-Trailer-Sucks-But-Don-t-Give-Up-Hope-14448. html

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    I would rather see the haters get a life for a change

    by ominus

    who knows,maybe the world will become a better place.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    i'll be rooting for Humans too

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    so we can fuck their blue women in the ass. ohhhhhhhhh!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Eyeball hymens... still fully intact, btw.

    by turketron_2

    Looks cool though not eye-fuckingly cool. Guess I'll have to wait to see it in 3d to pop those cherries.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Trailer breakdown

    by Rogue Trooper

    Empire online has a good trailer breakdown which gives some context for what's going on as well as detail on what things are called et cetera. http://www.empireonline.com/features/avatar-teaser-trailer-breakdown/default.asp

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Bless you Emperor,thats the truth

    by ominus

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    FFS JUST PUT THE FUCKER ON YOUTUBE

    by BringingSexyBack

    All these non-working links are cockteasing my retinae.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    You got nothin...

    by Shut_Your_Penispouch

    You're already backpedaling and begging me to blow my tangy wordload in your hair.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    a story does cost 300 million

    by DioxholsterUnbound

    this will fail

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Huh. Well. Hrrrrm.

    by TheCap

    That's a big old pantsload of "MEH" if I've ever seen it. If Cameron expects to change the "game" with this ... we'd better have just seen the dullest parts of this movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    It's ARTHUR AND THE IVISIBLES!

    by Chris Elms

    Let the shit-storm commence.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    BENJAMIN BUTTON was the actual game-changer...

    by BurnHollywood

    Until I read a copy of Cinefex, I didn't realize that Pitt's head was entirely CGI up to the point where he's "young" (old) enough to join the tugboat crew. What's more astonishing is how Pitt and Blanchett were "de-aged" to teenage years.<p> That's really going to be the movie that "changed it all" when we look back from the age of synthespians...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Stunning

    by antonphd

    God Bless James Cameron. Now, come on Steven, Peter and Robert the guantlet is throw. Pick it up.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    I can't watch the fucking thing...

    by drompter

    All I get is the Questionmarkbusters logo

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    The problem is

    by Series7

    Why no one is really going bonkers over the trailer is because compared to LOTR and King Kong it just isn't THAT MUCH better. Such you could say, the rock face or the pours on the leafs look SO much better...but who gives a fuck about that? <P> Also since Titanic Peter Jackson directed all three LOTR, Kong and has another movie coming out this summer.....I didn't see a 10 year plus break anywhere in there did you?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Not Really As Revolutionary...

    by KosherWookie

    As I had expected. Love Cameron's films, but I have to agree with the folks who have observed that the set/ship design seems about mid-90s... Also, after watching the trailer a few times I popped LOTR: Return of the King into the DVD player, and I've gotta say I don't see the much-hyped, game-changing revolution in digital effects. It integrates the real & CGI elements only just about as well, though I do have to say that the CG environments are very pretty and will probably look good on the big screen. All in all: Looks like a cool flick, but not a life-changer. Coming from a guy who was 14 years old when Star Wars (the grand-daddy of game-changers) premiered in 1977: "I know game-changers and you, sir, are no game-changer."

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    teaser working as intended

    by grimber

    It teased. Nobody said the first trailer would sodomize your eyeballs. I'm glad that they decided to ease people into the world with something that doesn't give away every money-shot in the movie. It pulls people back from whatever expectations they were dreaming up and sets the tone for what was actually created. I'm willing to bet the next trailer will be more flashy now that people know what the world looks like. Stop complaining like Cameron took some movie you grew up with and pissed cgi all over it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    WOW!

    by GMannino

    I cant believe that anyone can say that this trailer sucked or that this movie will suck. This trailer is clearly amazing and nothing short of that. I know I'm talking to a brick wall in saying this because you all will hate it anyway. I am really looking forward to this movie and everyone on here needs to lighten up and take it for what it is... a movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    TO ALL THE --- Emperor --- out there

    by Series7

    Fucking learn how to make paragraphs you fucking 5 year old.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Master Chief invades Azeroth

    by Taragor

    just my first impression...like blending Halo with Everquest

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    BASEMENT

    by yiannis

    Three films I own and like and all good effects. The most valid comparison is, obviously, Kong, but again it's the problem of comparing a 180 minute (or 210 for the extended cut) movie to a two minute trailer. Once the full movie is out, I would be interested to know if your opinion is still the same.<br><br>30 Days of Night is a very poor comparison in my opinion. The CGI there (which was NOWHERE NEAR as extensive as you are making it out to be) was tweaking the facial features of actual, on set actors being actually filmed. Again, if you have real elements your eye can relate to, it goes a long way to masking CGI (in that film highly successfully). This is 100% CGI based on motion capture.<br><br>As for Sunshine, please show me the fully CGI character in that film? Most of that film was a (good) set with the odd CGI flourish. The only major CGI was the big bomb room thing and the sun itself. Again not really a valid comparison.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    My eyeballs

    by rogueleader66

    Are hardly fucked, but that being said it looks quite impressive, although I am hoping the CGI characters wind up looking better, because they don't look very real to me. I will be seeing this, no doubt.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Guess I don't have to go now...

    by Acappellaman

    ...to see it on the pseudo-IMAX screen. Iv'e got two tickets, but I really don't care enough right now to make the trip. The tailer's cool enough I suppose, but not enough to warrant a trip to the theater.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Hahaha!

    by Doschwall

    The similarities with Lucas and his later SW ventures appear staggering.... Guess the target audience are +25 males living in their mothers basement!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    BurnHollywood

    by Series7

    Actually Brad Pitt isn't real at all, he is just a walking computer effect!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Avatar humans Vrs poor cgi overgrown smurfs

    by kaizen

    The CGI looks horrible.... it reminds me of the second matrix movie where neo fights the mister smiths in the courtyard after meeting with the oracle, they may as-well have put a cgi pac-man in that seen. not really impressed but im sure it will have losts of distracting explosions to take peoples minds of the lack of story or good effects.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    So Cameron should go back to movie stars...SCHWARZENEGGER?

    by ABking

    At least Cameron's next film will be real with a movie star like SCHWARZENEGGER.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Anyone saying

    by Series7

    Haters/lovers need to get a life.......do you not realize that you are arguing a moot argument? No matter who you are, or how cool your mom says you are at the end of the day we are all posting on nerd central's web site. We all have about the same amount of life we need to get.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    GOD AICN SUCKS

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    go to ANY other site..and watch it in 3 secons with no broken links or embed problems..serioulsy..epic eyeballfucking failure

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    --- Emperor ---

    by knowthyself

    To be fair teasers are just meant to tease. That's why no mention of the story.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    New Wolfman trailer...

    by Last_of_the_V8_Interceptors

    can whip an avatar's ass... and no mention of it here yet for some reason. It's on Yahoo movies. Me likey.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    The BIG TWIST

    by ebolamonkey

    Is that the female alien is also an avatar, being controlled by another DUDE! Then Jake Sully realizes maybe that's OK and it gets all Brokeback Planet.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    it does look fake....

    by iwasredempted

    but in a people in a rubber suit fake. then it clicked for me. it was rubbery. get it people. my god. let it soak in man. the movements had a gravity and weight to it. it didn't look at all like pixels floating in space trying to fake physics. let happen man. get your cherries popped.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    My wife is in LOVE with this now.

    by antonphd

    Face it fanboys, this movie was made for the Titanic audience. This is not Aliens this is Last of the Mohicans. And it's going to make a billion or two.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    This trailer was jaw dropping...

    by The Gipper

    Jaw droppingly AWFUL!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Hype?

    by codymr

    It is funny to me that people talk about the hype for this film... there is certainly a lot of fan anticipation, but there has been very little hype per se until last months Comic-Con. Cameron has been his usual secretive self and the studio has released very little in the way of promotional material. I have seen very few magazine covers, posters or Entertainment Tonight type set visits for Avatar. In fact, for a film of this size there has been remarkably little hype. However it looks like the Fox marketing and promotions juggernaut is just gearing up with the special IMAX screenings and so on. So from this point onwards, yes, there will be marketing/promotions/hype galore. <P> As for the CGI debate, my feeling is that they did a pretty good job when you account for the volume of CG effects in this film. Someone mentioned District 9 and the great effects. They are right IMO, the CG work in D9 is utterly fantastic (and Oscar worthy with any luck), but much of that film was “only” character mo-cap and rendering with some mother ship and CG helicopter shots and some digital mattes of Johannesburg now and then. Avatar has 100% alien CGI environments and characters... the more you have to create, the more computer resources you need to balance to bring the film in as close to on time and on budget as possible, despite the budget size. However one thing that D9 does do well that most SF films do not is to incorporate the “bad” shot into the effects. To my eye, too often CG shots are too pretty and smack of the “money shot” to try and blow the audience’s socks off. In D9 there quite a few shots were the camera was shaking… or the racked focus and framing was a bit off which helped sell the realism. Finally, one of the great things CGI can do is to create places, things and situations that simply can’t exist… and that is also the Achilles heel of the technology; when I look at the Na’vi sitting up in the hospital bed, it looks strange because my brain knows that there is no way that is real – it can’t be just an actor in a blue suit. The skin creases in the blue feet may look totally believable, but subconsciously, you know it can’t be. I think it is known as the “Uncanny Valley” effect. <P> All in all I think this will do well, despite what the naysayers argue. It has Cameron’s name on the project and there are space marines for the boys and a cute alien love story for the girls. The only demo Cameron in not reaching this time around it the 50+ viewer… even my Grandmother went to see Titanic. Cameron always knows how to put on a show and this teaser looks interesting enough to get me in the theatre, unless the critics and word of mouth turn out to be horrible closer to the release date. Time will tell. <P> That is my 2 cents.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    HAHAHA AWFUL!

    by name818

    the hype almost had me going. What a fucking turd. It kind of reminded me of SpaceJam with its shitty mix of real life and cartoons. The CGI is total crap. The problem is that there is no texture to the Navi. Its cartoon bullshit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    yiannis

    by Series7

    Sunshine, please show me the fully CGI character in that film? = The Sun.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    FINALLY saw it - lighten up, fellas

    by Kaiser Soze

    Finally got the site to work. Watched it a couple times to let it sink in, and I gotta say, chill, people. Does it look like the end all, be all of special effects as we know it? Not so far. Does it look like the effects shots are missing a coat or two of polish? Yes, and with roughly four months to goon something this ambitious, they probably aren't finished yet. BUT, does it look like something that could be epic in story and a kick-ass ride? Well, it does that, too. How's about we wait for more than 2 minutes out of at least 120 total before we pass judgment on a director that's proven himself time and again.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    HATERS

    by Dhova09

    you ppl are some fuckin haters! you damn well you are gonna shell out your gas money to go watch the film so shut the fuck up. You couldnt make a better film with a flip-cam! FUCKERS

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Camerons other 3-D side project

    by technotranceporter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9P_St-sOWY

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    with DAYBREAKERS and...

    by DC Films

    ...A SERIOUS MAN on the the way, i'm not too precious about AVATAR.<p>I hope it's great and Cameron always brings a lot more substance than a teaser can show, but does look like Jar Jar Meets Apocalypto (the latter is good, the former bad). Despite what Cameron's been saying, i think it will depend on the 3D for the movie to work...<p>I think DAYBREAKERS will the surprise hit, sadly AVATER might well be the surprise flop... Hope not.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    I don't understand...

    by coastercrusader

    ...why all the whining? First of all, this is a "science fiction" movie. We have all known that it was going to be that. We also all knew that it was going to be all CGI. I for one think that Cameron hasn't even come close to showing us what his technology can do. Of course he's not going to blow our minds in a two minute trailer, why would any of us go see this movie if we see all the amazing stuff in the two minute glimpse. I have to agree with everyone else that said it, I think that the most important part of this trailer is when Sam Worthington's character smiles at his Avatar. I think with this movie we are not only going to get state-of-the-art cgi motion capture animation, but we are also going to get a touching, emotionally engaging story. That's what I hope to see in December.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Hopefully they don't release a first 7 minutes online

    by Series7

    Like they did with Speed Racer. That ended up hurting that film more then helping. I'm thinking like Speed this movie has a learning curve to it, you need about 15 minutes of Speed to really get what you are seeing before you can fully enjoy it. This may be the same.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    my eyeballs

    by werewolfbynight

    feel like they just got fucked by a cheap whore. i got my nut off, but i kind of wish i had'nt paid for it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    What I just saw was pretty awesome!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    I don't know what you guys seem to be looking at. Any complaint likely comes down to the design not the render. I'd be willing to guarantee once people really see this thing, they will believe. I portend you all are going to regret ever doubting.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Nolan dropped out of The Prisoner

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    that mean that B3 is his next film..Oldman was right

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    The Real Story

    by Mike Hunt 4 Pres

    The real story here is that this thing is going to be a financial turd. I'm not a hater, I think it looks cool and will go see it in the theater. But seriously, there's no way mainstream audiences are going to go watch blue elves fight cartoon robots. Some studio executive just shit his pants after watching this trailer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Floating grassy islands?

    by TheMarineBiologist

    Oh no... I'm in Outland again...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Ok....

    by Doschwall

    ...i will agree to watch it only if the game controller is included in the ticket price!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    the blue...

    by gonkdroid

    skin with over sized eyes is a piss poor choice.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    antonphd....

    by Magic Rat

    you pretty much nailed it. This is Last of the Mohicans in space.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    D9 and avatar cannot be compared to each other

    by Six Demon Bag

    they are totally 2 different ways of filmmaking and such..

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Hey, where are my deleted CE3K scenes? What gives?

    by BenBraddock

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    by Mintcake

    not impressed, I am however thinking this year will be a little bit like when The Phantom Menace was released and The Matrix stole its thunder,and proved to be a far superior film, cept this year its District 9/Avatar

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    SIGOURNEY WEAVER IS THE ONLY GOOD PIECE OF CASTING IN THIS....

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Michelle Rodriguez, Giovanni Ribisi, CCH Pounder, Wes Studi, Stephen Lang etc…it’s like Cameron went out of his way to cast every fucking shit C-lister that he could find. With Terminator Salvation, Worthington has proven himself to be a charisma free non-entity which is a shame since HE IS THE FUCKING LEAD ACTOR. FUCK ME FUCKING CEILING CAT ALMIGHTY FUCKER OF FUCK, the only person that I’m looking forward to seeing in this is Zoe Saldana (based on her work in Star Trek) except for the small problem which is that YOU DON’T SEE HER BECAUSE SHE’S PLAYING A FUCKING COMPUTER GRAPHIC SMURF/THUNDERCAT THING WITH FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME!!!<br> <br>No wonder Cameron has been holding off on showing anything from this fucking 300+ million dollar turkey. At this point it looks like it would have been a better idea for him to have made a fucking HALO movie. 12 years and this is the best this egomaniacal fucking tool can come up with when he isn’t scuba diving or searching for Jesus’ tomb.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    I think we can ALL agree that the ugliest thing about that trail

    by Burgundy82

    was the use of Papyrus for the logo font. WTF, Cameron — are you making a movie or opening an organic grocery store?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    after multiple viewings

    by bluebottle

    it looks amazing. the first time i watched it, i couldn't help but scrutinize every shot, looking for flaws in the cg - it looked fake to me. <p></p> but as i watch it more and more... i dunno... it looks pretty damn good. i'm excited.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Must say, THE WOLFMAN looks pretty good

    by BenBraddock

    Wonder when AICN will put up a link?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Carl...1978

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Stephen Lang is a fucking shit C-lister? Do a little basic fucking research.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    er

    by Burgundy82

    FUCK YOU, SUBJECT LINE LIMITATIONS!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    A V A T A R - Fucking your eyeballs in 2009!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    EPIC WIN YOU FUCKERS!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    This looks...

    by OceanWang

    like shite. Seriously, dumb concept and a dumb movie. Wheelchair guy jacks into alien body, does it with other aliens. The actual planet looks kind of cool but the aliens look like they were originally designed for a Pixar movie. There's no photorealism to be had. Avatar? More like Avasuck! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! WANG OUT!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Doesn't look bad

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    Doesn't look revolutionary or amazing either. In the end, I don't care about getting my eyeballs fucked, I care about the story. Hopefully we will get a movie that deserves a seat next to Aliens and T2, and that's all I could hope for. On another note, The Wolfman trailer is up and it kicks ass.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    The cat things look...

    by Exasperilious

    kind of lame IMO. Looks strange overall. Not too excited for it other than it being Cameron.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Too much CG! It looks fake and inconsistent in a lot of spots!

    by Brannagins Law

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    BenBraddock

    by Series7

    They won't put up a link because Harry is still pouting about Mark Romenek not being the director. Since he is SOOOO fucking good.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Looks shit

    by WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR

    My interest would be non-existent were it not for JC's name being attached to this, so I'm stuck on 'judgement reserved'. I love how some people's lives seem to be over because the link didn't work on time, fucking gimps.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    I wish Bayformer Optimus would come in...

    by Crock_Samson

    ... and eat these shitty blue zebra-cat people! Fuck Michael Bay, fuck Fox, and fuck James Cameron's new over budgeted cartoon!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Merrick, what happened to the Close Encounters link?

    by snallyg

    Did I just dream that?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    My eyeballs feel like they've...

    by PessimusGrime

    ...just been with that rich, cheerleader chick from high school that everyone was thought was so hot, but who turned out to just sort of lie there like a paralyzed fish when I actually did manage to nail her. Then years later I saw her again when she came home from college and she had shaved her head and wore Timberlands, Wrangler jeans, a flannel shirt and no makeup, had gained at least 20 pounds and listened to Tracy Chapman and Jill Sobule on her car stereo.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Is everything lit too bright?

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    That's what I came away with. Especially the mechs. There needs to be more grime to them.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    What the hell just happened to the "Close Encounters" story?

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    It was just there! Oh Christ, the Avatar teaser's fried my man-brain!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    This is DEFINITELY a 'family' film, just like —

    by blakindigo

    "Titanic" was a film for tween girls. It will have action for the adventure heads, but this seems more like a 'live-action' anime than anything coming from a major studio (looking at you "DragonBall Z).<br><br>I think Cameron anticipated the growth of anime/manga and saw the direction the zeitgeist was going and worked out how to westernize it enough with a backstory similar to "Dances with Wolves" to retain a point of entry for western audiences. Makes me curious regarding the storytelling beats and the overall narrative drive and pacing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    INCONSISTANT CG RENDERING RUINS THESE FILMS!!!!!!

    by Brannagins Law

    when will they fucking see it looks like shit when not handled moderately and controlled!!???

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Hmm

    by MandrakeRoot

    I don't get how people can say the CG looks like shit. I mean, it's not the best, but many shots are definitely up there. If you watch Lord of the Rings, you can easily tell Gollum is CGI, and your lying if you say different. Still, that's considered some of the best CGI, and some shots in this teaser are better than that. I think it's the realistic backgrounds that really differentiate it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    the last thing i have to say about this is where is the vagina..

    by iwasredempted

    dr. manhattan penis=avatar vagina. you want photorealistic. give me some clitoris. no? okay.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by yiannis

    Erm, listen dude. You might want to grab your nearest dictionary and look up the meaning of "character" in relation to some form of dramatic performance. I may not have as good drugs as you do, but I don't recall the sun in Sunshine having much in the way of dialogue, or showcasing many nifty fighting moves or deep emotions...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    YEAH, TWEENS ARE GOING TO JUST FLOCK TO SEE THIS BECAUSE....

    by CarlThorMark1978

    I can really see the braindead mallrats of America giving a shit about a love story between two blue Thundersmurfs!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Well if this is a repeat of The Matrix and TPM

    by Series7

    Avatar will still be a cash cow.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Burgundy82...

    by PessimusGrime

    ...Yes, a fellow graphic designer, I take it? Papyrus sucks ass... it's such an outdated, fn mid-90's crunchy granola font. And it hasn't even been altered at all besides stretching out the kerning a little. Epic lame!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Wheel Vhair Guys stays on the planet at the end.

    by SHIA_LABEUFS_CHRISTMAS

    You guys go on back without me I'm gonna stay here and fuck giant blue cats.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    THUNDERSMURFS, THUNDERSMURFS, THUNDERSMURFS HOOOOOOOOO!!!

    by CarlThorMark1978

    That's what they are, FUCKING THUNDERSMURFS!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    There is no Close Encounters scene here. Move along."

    by snallyg

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I agree, if James Cameron werent involved....

    by MANNZILLA

    Then most people would not be interested. This looks like Cameron is still stuck in titanic mode, giving us a pg-13 dances with wolves type love story. The art design looks awful, everything looks like a retread of stuff we have seen already.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    An optical illusion

    by LarkStew

    When the two lab assistants are looking at the Na'vi sitting up on the bench, it looks like they're staring behind him. But I just realised, the Na'vi are ten feet tall (something like that), but your brain thinks he's the same size as a human, so puts him closer than he really is in your visual field and makes it look fake. When you see that in 3D, you'll get a proper impression of where he is and it'll look awesome. So now I'm wondering how many other shots might suffer like that?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Bamboo, Dinos, Dropships, Gelflings and Mechwarriors

    by Pabodie

    Ho Hum. I just can't get up for this. We are being event marketed into submission to how "real" it looks. It has to feel real, too. No soul, no movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I think it looks exciting.

    by WYLD STALLYNS RULES

    I think the "eyeball-fuckery" thing was more a product of people here and at other movie sites unreasonably inflating expectations. I thought the trailer was great, and I'm looking forward to Avatar Day tomorrow.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    It's the realistic backgrounds that set the cg apart.

    by Brannagins Law

    it just looks like a prettier version of that Delgo. It looks ok in spots but others it looks fake as all crap.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Motoko Kusanagi

    by Sir Nigel Lengthington-Smythe

    you stupid cunt, this is what you've been spouting on about for so long? I bet you feel like a total twat now, but you'll keep a brave face until the film comes out.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    What if this were the case...

    by BubbaDestructo

    District 9...a film by James Cameron. Avatar...a film by Neil Blomkamp. <p> Now view each of their respective trailers with that in your mind. <p> Does your perception of these films change?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    yiannis???

    by Series7

    Are you fucking kidding me! The depth and range of the Sun in that movie was fantastic! I mean have you ever seen someone SO close to death as the Sun was in that movie potrayed SO brightly before? He just needed one little nuclear blast the size of New York to be saved! And due to his location it was so hard for them to get there, but he SHINED as brightly as he could even in his frail state, so brave. Oscar worthy in my book.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    The Furry community will love it.

    by BobWinters5

    Enjoy the epic SyFy quality love story that you've been waiting for.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Looks about the same...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...as anything GL has done...except without as many a-hole fanboy complaints. I give it a rating of meh/meh.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    What's Avatar again?

    by HapaPapa72

    By the way, The Wolfman trailer is on Yahoo.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    If I was being condescending...

    by The_Coyote

    ...I take it back. Apologies. I understand how some may find it underwhelming. It just seemed that the haters were going a little overboard with the hyperbole. There's clearly some pretty cool stuff going on in the trailer, but perhaps not to everyone's personal standard. Either way, I concede.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    I like Cameron but.

    by JestaFool

    my niece just watched it with me(she only 5) and she siad it was willy wonka with the girl that ate the gum and turned blue only she didnt get fat!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Ominus...

    by Samplelord

    "In other words,your brain cant comprehend the image of the navi alien,because it hasnt seen a navi before,so it acknowledges as fake and as a result u get the impression that is cartoony. " Thats' bullshit... The creature in Alien, The Thing, The Fly,fuck, even The Blob remake are much more unworldly and "alien" than the Navi and much more disturbing for to mind to accept ...do they look cartoony? Even more so, most non horror fan's can't even look at these flicks cuz the of their design, their mind make's it real for them...they get scared of a animatronic puppet or a dude in a suit. The Navi look like tall, blue, Thundercats...very comprehendable and very cg looking. See how fast my brain has grasped the unoriginal representation of the Navi? How it has classified their design and concept....and has put in the Bermuda Triangle section of my brain? Nice try...better luck next time...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    woah.....how do those lands float?

    by MillaJovovichsArmpitSmell

    yet after that trailer i dont care. sure, the aliens weren't hyper realistic, and the plot seems like ferngully, but damn, in 3d, ill prolly see that shit more than once.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    this is NOT photoreal? yes it IS...check link

    by lukasman

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UEbZkrBImcM/So1prFiKAnI/AAAAAAAAAtU/og40vEGF9OY/s1600-h/avatarteeth.JPG Im sorry, that looks like a guy in makeuo = photoreal!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    THE WOLF MAN trailer looks pretty good!

    by YackBacker

    Even though the fucking Chorus of the Apocalypse had to be used yet again! Emily Blunt is cinema class, people. If Joe Johnston can pull this off, there's hope for CAPTAIN AMERICA yet.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Why all this Fuss about CG

    by ScooterJockey

    Why all this fuss about AVATAR - when the Wolfman Trailer and it's Genuine Physical Makeup / CG transformation mashup will own all these little blue fairies.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Not A Game Changer, But That Did Look Totally Effin' Awesome

    by LaserPants

    That's right, you heard me, I think that looked totally fucking awesome. I'll officially shut up forever about Cameron and how much I hate T2 if the actual movie lives up to the awesome I think I just saw.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Wow! Pretty damn amazing stuff

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Almost too I amazing, Its going to take a leap of faith to just accept those creatures as the protagonists. <p> But I for one will be there watching in 3D IMAX to give it my best shot. <p> The graphics looking incredible. The soles of its feet! Just wow! Lets see if I can just accept the faces and not be taken out wondering how they did it/

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    dont judge a movie by its teaser/trailer?

    by Bouncy X

    ummmm, that's the whole point of those, to give you an idea of what the movie will be like so you can decide whether or not you want to see it. if you expect people to see a movie before judging it then why bother make a trailer you know? anyway, this is exactly what i expected, it looks cool and i'll definately check it out but its not impressive or awesome or anything. it just looks cool.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    please take me screening tix! I don't want them now.

    by Brannagins Law

    ****************************************************************************** Please discard any previous confirmation letters as they are no longer valid. ****************************************************************************** Robert Cecere, Congratulations! You are confirmed to be among the first to experience select scenes from James Cameron's epic motion picture AVATAR in IMAX 3D, on August 21st. Details of your screening are as follows: AMC Promenade 16 & IMAX 21801 Oxnard Street Woodland Hills, California 91367 Friday, August 21 at 6:00pm Seats: 2 Code: 42d-0063 Please print this e-mail and bring it with you to the screening along with a photo ID. This screening will be monitored for unauthorized recording. By attending, you agree not to bring any recording devices into the theatre and you consent to physical search of your belongings and person for recording devices. If you attempt to enter with a recording device, you will be denied admission. If you attempt to use a recording device, you consent to immediate removal from the theatre and forfeiture of the device. Unauthorized recording will be reported to law enforcement and may subject you to criminal and civil liability. ******************************************************************************

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    I think the CG looks fine...

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    ...and watching it in 3D on an Imax is going to be an entirely different experience from watching it in 2D on a computer screen. Nothing in this preview leads me to believe this WON'T be an incredible experience.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Eyeballs have been UNfucked!

    by IndyCollector

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Chagui

    by CharyouTree

    Hats of to you sir for admitting the HD one looks great.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Yep, the CE3K deleted scenes link has been deleted

    by BenBraddock

    We demand to know why!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    this would've made a very cool anime...

    by HaterofCrap

    meh?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Furry fandom has a pretty big fanbase CTM1978

    by blakindigo

    I don't know if it's big enough to support a $200 million dollar epic, but, you'd be surprised how many people exist in that fan community.<br><br>I don't know if I'm on the right track, but if the film is a hit, that might be factor.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I think The Wolfman trailer comes across better

    by just pillow talk

    I still think the aerial battle is the best thing in the trailer, not crazy about the other parts. <p>We'll see...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Being still upset about people hating this?

    by Series7

    All and all I'd say that the hate for this has been pretty mild in terms of AICN hating. There is no one spamming crap. The dick jokes have been kept to a minimum. So that probably doesn't say much for the movie, because it isn't moving people to curse the name of Avatar and say bat shit crazy nonsense about how stupid it is and its not getting over whelming praise from everyone. A movie that causes no reaction is the worst sort of movie you can make.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Looked alright until it turned into a video game

    by Laserhead

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach, YEAH, STEPHEN LANG IS A SHIT C-LISTER BECAUSE..

    by CarlThorMark1978

    I never even fucking heard anyone say shit about this douche before this year and that's only because he got casted in Public Enemies and Avatar despite the fact that he’s done NOTHING but shit TV and a few fucking piss poor movies over the years. I was amazed to find out that he played Freddy Lounds in Manhunter and now I’m even more worried about him being in Avatar since he was shit back then and I doubt that he’s improved as an actor.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    CGI / Actor interface doesn't work

    by BosphorusBill

    If you look at where the worryingly effete avatar wakes up on the hospital trolley the actors are looking at a point about 2 feet behind his camp fashion designer's head. Couldn't they afford a stick with a bit of card on it when shooting..? Like the 1970's Roger Dean floating mountains.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Damn, Emily Blunt should have been Black Widow

    by BenBraddock

    Again, damn

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    CG still has a ways to go, but I'll definitely see it...

    by Mr. Waturi

    I work in the industry, so I guess I'm more discriminating than most. But honestly, the CG doesn't look much better than "Beauwolf." The character movements are still stiff (just look at the first scene where he slams his arm against the glass). The CG is still too clean. The skin doesn't have enough grit and texture. The environments don't have enough atmosphere. The eyes and teeth look cartoonish. Still, I guess that's a good thing. It should be incredibly difficult for computers to replicate life. A worthwhile effort, though. I'll be there opening day.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Not Bad

    by Soapfish

    I thought it looked pretty sweet. I was expecting it to not live up to my expectations of the hype and was ready to hate it, but I kinda liked it. My issue is with Fern-Gully story remake qualities and the Papyrus font. Come on Cameron/Fox, any college design student could tell you not to use Papyrus.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    ebolamonkey

    by codymr

    "Brokeback Planet" LMAO.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Jurrasic Park = best use of CG ever!

    by Brannagins Law

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    wolfman CGI transformation FTL

    by knowthyself

    Another wack CGI wolf man? No thanks

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Trailer Backlash?

    by DeadPanWalking

    Anyone with a brain knows that blacklash is simply a defense mechanism due to low self-esteem. If you're getting worked up over this trailer, you might want to consider improving your own life and caring about something that actually effects you personally. Just a little advice.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Samplelord

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    The reason your brain is quicker to accept those other creatures you mentioned is that they are LESS human than the Na'vi and thus you have fewer points of reference to compare them to. The more human something looks, the harder it is to trick us, because we see and interact with humans every day.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    BosphorusBill

    by BenBraddock

    Those were my thoughts exactly!! All except for the Roger Dean bit.. but you're right on that too, come to think of it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Looks awful (Apocalypto meets Final Fantasy crappy CGI)

    by effector12

    Aliens that look like blue fairies, ships from Terminator Salvations. It's Apocalypto meets Final Fantasy. Can't believe Cameron spent 5yrs of his life on this one, and over 237 million dollars making it. This is going to fail miserably. I've liked some of Cameron's past films, The Terminator, Aliens, and The Abyss. But this film looks terrible. Here's hoping the movie is better than the trailer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Prepare to relax tomorrow as well...

    by gotilk

    a certain percentage of people who believe they have perfect sight cannot experience the 3d effect. It just doesn't register as any different from 2d beyond some added "blurriness". I remember having an argument with one such person while discussing true 3d vs. simulated 3d environments displayed in 2d on a screen. He was convinced that true 3d had arrived when he played Halo. It was 2d, period. After a long time talking about the various 3d films we'd both seen over the years, it finally dawned on me that the poor guy just did not see 3d, at all.. ever. So tomorrow, be prepared for a few people here saying it was a "blurry mess" and didn't once make them feel like they were immersed. Don't take it personally.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Most will see the film in 2D

    by vadakinX

    Having just watched it...ugh, cg is horrible. Yes the movie is designed to be watched in 3D but most people will be forced to watch it in 2D and so far it's failed. That big panther creature was laughable and when the Avatar speaks (technically Huntingtons consciousness inside the avatar) it looked horrible. <p> There are a few nice shots of machinery (ships etc) but I've seen shots that are just as good and realistic in Battlestar Galactica, and that has a TV budget, not the biggest budget in Hollywood history. <p> I'm sure it will look great in 3D. The problem is, most people aren't going to be able to watch this in 3D. It will be a 2D experience for most of the audience.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Is this Dances With Wolves in space?

    by Subotai

    It gave off that kinda vibe. I wish that Scorcese was making Hyperion...Damn that would be game changing. Also the aliens remind me of the Sithi in Tad Williams Memory Sorrow and Thorn trilogy. I don't care about the CGI if the story is good. That's why Moon was so rad. The CGI in Moon was kind of dated really--but the story kicked ass

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    So realistic...it's unreal

    by Abominable Snowcone

    This is a glorified cartoon. It's like a Roger Dean album cover come to life. So many colors and floating islands, you can't believe they actually exist, which is funny, cuz they don't.<p> Oh Mr. Cameron, Starship Troopers 3 called, they want their armored suits back.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Lang was the Party Pooper

    by CharyouTree

    in The Hard Way, great movie, with great Lang.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Ferngully 2: Electric Boogaloo

    by Han Cholo

    With Sam Worthington protecting the creatures of Ferngully, whose very existence is threatened by the Human Race. <p> I'm sorry but I remember when everyone here thought James Cameron was gonna save cinema with this film. Everyone was like "Cameron's gonna show Lucas and Spielberg how to do CG right" and all kinds of other hyperbole that was probably put there by Cameron and his ego. <p> Take a look at what being overconfident and overstating your abilites is making your movie look like now, Cameron. The backlash on this talkback hasn't been seen since Phantom Menace came out. As for my opinion on the look of the film - I think the Navi look jerky and unrealistic at the minimum. They have no pores and it doesn't look like they have any textures on thier bodies, it just looks like blue coloring. I think a lot more texture and bump-mapping work has to be done to at least give off the illusion that they look fairly real. But until then, this looks like an Epic Fail!! My eye's virginity will be taken by Tron Legacy, thank you...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Drink Cameron's Kool-Aid

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Drink it!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Blue cat people with mullets...

    by kjmad25

    ...why not something a little cooler, more ferocious looking? Like the prawns in District 9. I'm still gonna see this. But I'm really, really disappointed in the direction Cameron took with the Na'vi. Everything but the Na'vi looks amazing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    I thought most markets now had 3d screens.

    by gotilk

    I have several to choose from here, Sacramento region. Some are better than others, but there's a selection. I still find it odd that the best 3d imax screen in town is not participating in Avatar day.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Looks alright

    by darkslab

    I have a feeling though, the story is pretty "see through" at this point. It looks like a classic western almost, cowboys vs indians, with "cultural" misunderstandings. As much as the cg is transparent, I think the plot itself can be easily seen through the preview. But hey, I could be wrong.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    THUNDERSMURFS, THUNDERSMURFS, THUNDERSMURFS HOOOOOOOOO!!!

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    My eyeballs didn’t get lucky

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    Not even an end of the night hug – instead the Avatar trailer walked me up to the door and said, “you’re a great friend.”

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    And everyone comparing this to...

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    ..."Dances with Wolves" should google "Edgar Rice Burroughs" and "planetary romance". Just sayin'.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Thrillhaus

    by blakindigo

    Does Scorcese still have the rights to "Hyperion"?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Prawns > Na'vi

    by LaserPants

    Totally agree. This still looks awesome, though. I honestly can't believe so many of you are hating on this. It looks good to me, and I'm highly dubious / critical of Cameron seeing as how he made two good movies and then a handful of shitty ones (imho). This looks pretty friggin' awesome, though.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    JC took too long to develop this movie

    by DarthBakpao

    that we have seen enough other impressive CG works, we're no longer wowed by the quality we see in Avatar... JC can only pray that the story is good enough to attract moviegoers to see it, otherwise i'm sorry to say that the word "epic fail" might be true...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Anyone got a download link

    by CharyouTree

    for the HD version? Please.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I came, I saw, I said "meh".

    by Force_McCockin

    I am currently underwhelmed.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I WOULD HAVE RATHER SEEN PEOPLE IN BLUE MAKE-UP FOR FUCK SAKES..

    by CarlThorMark1978

    That fucking shithead Cameron could have saved tens of millions if he had the brains to just make the Thundersmurfs the same size as humans, painted his actors blue and slapped on some prosthetics, contact lenses and I wouldn’t have given a shit. The make-up for Mystique in the X-Men movies looked better then this CGI shit and it would have also allowed for the actual actors to emote rather then us watching a cartoon.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Scott Derrickson is apparently directing Hyperion

    by Subotai

    and it's shame b/c Scorcese's interpretation would have been something to see!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Looks good to me. Don't like that font tho

    by theneonsamurai

    Then again, I don't really give a shit about what looks CG or not.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Cameron Backlash!

    by LaserPants

    I'm not surprised. This actually does look cool, but the self-proclaimed "king of the world" just totally fucked up by proclaiming that this was going to blow everyones minds. If it just quietly came out, and the trailer hit, people would be far more excited. As it stands, it looks cool, but it does not look any better, efxwise then any of the other big CG tentpole movies like the Star Wars prequels, LOTR, Matrix sequels, King Kong. It does look good, its just not game changing.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Completely...

    by Lucasblows

    ...underwhelming.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    I was looking forward to this

    by Redmond

    Hell, I'll go see it, just because I'm sure the technology is great. But I was never jazzed by the story, and this doesn't help. It kinda looks like a sci-fi version of "Dances with Wolves". Dunno....it seemed underwhelming to me.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    The lamest thing about Avatar...

    by darthvedder81

    ...is that they are using "Papyrus" as the title font. Good God. Other than that it looks great. The movie doesn't need to be all mindblowing and revolutionary for me to enjoy it. If Cameron can just make a decent sci-fi action flick I'll be happy. We've had to endure too much garbage in the action genre for far too long.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by yiannis

    Sigh...<br><br>Where, at any point in any one of my posts, did I criticise the effects of Sunshine? I think that film is absolutely fucking amazing and criminally underrated at both a commercial and awards level. But...<br><br>THE... <br><br>SUN... <br><br>IS... <br><br>NOT... <br><br>A... <br><br>CHARACTER!!!!!<br><br>No matter how much symbolic meaning an inanimate object is given in a movie (see also the ring in LOTR and the ship in Event Horizon), it is NEVER a true character.It has no emotion, no performance and does not react with the world around it in any meaningful way.<br><br>Of course, when I wrote my initial reply I had already contemplated the fact that your post could be a ham-fisted, clumsy attempt at irony. I chose (and choose now) to take your post seriously, though. I'll take the chance of being the butt of a pathetic joke that only the teller laughs at any day if the alternative is to correct someone's misconceptions...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    MY EYES... GOOD GOD MY EYES!

    by Brannagins Law

    ...are they still there?!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    This doesn't look good...

    by catlettuce4

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Not the biggest budget in Hwood history

    by Redmond

    I heard reports of $240 million on AVATAR and $250 million on last Harry Potter movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    IT'S NOT CATURDAY YET! What the... I don't even...

    by turketron_2

    Blue cats everywhere.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    You know, it's not the CG it's the art direction

    by theneonsamurai

    the haters just hate anything that sparkles. watch the scene in the bamboo forest again. remember, that's all fucking CG. pretty massively incredible when you think about it. only thing i don't like is the kiss.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    yiannis

    by Series7

    Consider yourself an ass because I was just havin a wee bit of tom foolery wit yeah! And as long as I'm laughin who gives a fuck about anyone else! <P> I'll dance away playing me pan pipe.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    D-9 owns Avatar ass

    by paulyd30

    Way too much CGI. Aliens worked becuse of it's realism . If they can make Abe from Hellboy a guy in a suit they could have done it here too.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    avatar/halo

    by ChainsawX

    this is what halo should look like..let cameron direct that next!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    FINAL FANTASY THE SPIRITS WITHIN

    by iwontwin

    It looks alright.....a step up from beowulf

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    See Avatar in it's entirety right here!

    by Brannagins Law

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvhp4j3BMGA&feature=related

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Meh

    by Dimpy

    My eyeballs are still virgins...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Penispouch...

    by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER

    That's what I thought. You're a cunt. And have zero intellectual prowess. Quit surfing AICN and go back to playing World of Warcraft :) You'll be missed though!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    does look cartoonish

    by mynemaborat

    but thats only because the design of the navi are cartoonish. i actually liked it... looked interesting really.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    JC's Heavens gate

    by Not_really_here

    The teaser didn't impress me at all.I really expected something mind blowing from all the hype this has been getting. Instead I see nothing but the same old shitty cgi. I really think this will tank at the box office. Bummer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Wow. That looks awful.

    by HoboCode

    Every frame looked fake. The aliens looked like motherfucking CARTOONS. This is what we waited for Cameron? WTF?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    wow

    by Tacoloft

    Based on the trailer this 'looks' fantastic - however I say a lot of cliché moments ala LOTR, Star Wars, ect... could be the same story with new paint. Oh well, I am a sucker for anything sci-fi so I will be handing my money over anyways.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    It looks like

    by Series7

    Terminator 4.0: Live Free or Die Hard, raped Tim Burton's CGI work.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    looks cool to me

    by Rupee88

    I am not a CG hater like many people....and I'm not a retard who bought into the hype.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Which one of you pricks is hating on my AVATAR movie?

    by standundermyumbrella

    after watching the trailer a minute ago, i can honestly say blowing a single load is absolutely impossible! i had multiple orgasms that were so juicy and fresh you can't even imagine!! neytiri has gotta be one of the sexiest creatures ever put on film. the cgi is so mindblowing i needed to call a detective to help me find all the missing pieces of my skull! you are all being too hard like my dick because your expectations were just simply impossibly high. that doesn't change the fact that neytiri is a sexy bitch thats going to be masturbated to for years and years. i will be looking forward to busting more nuts on avatar day! what a wonderful glorious beautiful masterpiece this is going to be!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccj9RvwXTL8

    by Brannagins Law

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Scott Derrickson, eh? Well, hopefully the script will

    by blakindigo

    work.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Where all da blue women at?

    by turketron_2

    20 feet tall, their vagoo's must be immense! Maybe i could fit my whole head inside...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Prediction -

    by 69DUDE

    Really long, really boring, really self-indulgent, really really cheesy Cameron dialogue, really really really tech-obsessed. Oh, and why does the CGI look like Finding Nemo or some shit? Did Jimmy C tells us this was going to be groundbreaking? In what sense?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    THANKS FOR CRASHING MY COMP MERRICK!!!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    HEY QUAID, YOU EVER FUCKED A NAVI?

    by turketron_2

    NOO BENNEH, SCREWWWW YOUUUUUU!!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Whoa! Watched it four times now and IT FUCKING ROCKS!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    This is the first epic sci-fi action movie that has a story, nice visuals and no fucking shaky cam.<p>Fuck all those Michael Bay / Stephen Sommers / George soulless Lucas / McFUCKING-G jerkoffs.<p>This is the real deal. Welcome back, Iron Jim! We missed you.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    That news about the ad from EW

    by Series7

    Is more interesting to me then this trailer. That thing sounds awesome, even if its showing crappy TV shows.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Not_really_here

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Why would it tank at the box office? Total shit makes hundreds of millions of dollars. Yes i'm looking at you, Transformers 2. Avatar will be huge because: <p> A) Everyone will go and see it out of curiosity. <p> B) Kids will see it multiple times. <p> and, most importantly: C) It will probably be fantastic.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    BIG DEAL

    by interneti

    The CGI won't be enough to save the movie. It will live or die based on its plot. Hate to say it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9541/happycat2.png

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Oh, and this talkback just exploded.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    A V A T A R. <p>Best movie of the decade.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Peoples Expectations Are Too High BECAUSE of Cameron's Ego

    by LaserPants

    Like I said, if this was just introduced in a normal fashion, rather than hearing Cameron scream, shout, and jerk off all over himself that it was going to dramatically alter the very framework of the Universe, then people wouldn't be hating on it. <br><br>I agree, though, that people are being too hard on this. It looks good to me. And since when does cartoony = bad? I fuckin' love cartoons! I wanna live in a cartoon. Doesn't everybody? Oh, but photorealistic? Nah. Unless its a photo of a cool looking cartoon, of course.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    standundermyumbrella

    by Series7

    AHhhhh there's the penis references. LET IT BEGIN!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    THE PHANTOM MENACE!!!!

    by 69DUDE

    Didn't know they were re-releasing that shit!!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Lame Fanboy Wank Material

    by paradigm26

    This is what we waited for from Cameron? What a bunch of over-hyped drivel. I'm convinced it's target audience is undersexed, over-geekified man-boys. This movie just fell off my list of ones to watch.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I am not impressed.

    by Ironhelix

    This looks like a really good video game cut-scene. CGI lacks the proper "weight" to ever look real. What planet do the people who think this looks even CLOSE to real live on?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Laser--

    by Six Demon Bag

    cameron hasnt come out and said anywhere this is gonna be huge....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    It's not that they don't look like real aliens

    by bah

    It's that they look like cartoons! I mean, this is only marginally better than that thing from Lost In Space. I've never seen a dinosaur, but I know when one in a movie looks realistic and when it looks like a cartoon.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    CONGRATS CAMERON!

    by XiMan

    "FOR ALL WHO EXALT THEMSLEVES WILL BE HUMBLED." -Luke 14:11

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by kwisatzhaderach

    What did you think of the trailer?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Dear God. You whining shitfuckers!

    by fitzcarraldo2

    A new record for whiny internet virgin spleen-venting has just been set. That looked amazing, beautiful and exciting.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2761/thundersmurfs.png

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    C'mon, this *looks* fantastic

    by prbt

    I don't see how people can say otherwise. The CGI is the best I've ever seen, I'd like to see examples that people think are better.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    That looked amazing, beautiful and exciting.

    by Series7

    AND THAT'S JUST THE TIP! What till he sticks it in!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I admit...

    by KillDozer

    I was expecting to be more wowed by the CGI than I actually was, but I'll give James Cameron the benefit of the doubt.<p>The thing that looked the most out of place to me? The wheelchair. For some reason a future where they haven't figured out how to regenerate nerve connections, especially when a mind can be projected into the fully functioning (nerve connections and all) body of an alien species, just seems all wrong...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Relax,tomorrow is the screen preview.after that

    by ominus

    the haters will go back to their caves.the link with the article, which Emperor posted,tells a lot of correct things.u should read it. <p>just be patience.tomorrow u will watch a glimpse of Camerons true vision in its fully glory.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by yiannis

    I said I was prepared to take the chance...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    prbt

    by just pillow talk

    Jurassic Park.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    James Cameron: The New George Lucas

    by 69DUDE

    Think about it, both took a massive break from directing. Both have served up over-hyped cartoony CG sci-fi garbage as a comeback. Admit it!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Okay so

    by Juwanna_Mann_2_Fanboy

    People who think this looks bad have the right to think that, of course. The problem lies with judging a movie so harshly before even hearing so much as two lines of dialogue. Especially given that this is the new creation by a man who's track record is nearly perfect, who has dedicated the last decade of his life creating an ORIGINAL world to entertain you. I think you owe the man a little more than some bullshit attack on two minutes of footage that is totally out of context from the rest of the material. Do you know what REAL work is? It's not hard labor, it's not a nine to five desk job. Those things drain your soul and make you negative, then you spread your negativity here. Real work is creating something new that enhances you and the world and makes you happy. Dedicating yourself and laying it all out on the line with a new piece of art is a very hard thing to do. At least see his work before you tear it down, and remember what the man has given you. And don't let the fact that you're force fed so many shitty movies by Hollywood cloud your judgment when a truly great movie comes along. District 9 and Avatar in the same year? We're fucking lucky. Let's focus on the good stuff people, make the world a little bit happier!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    All your complaints are design related, not render.

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    But once we actually see real scenes involving acting we'll likely understand why the design had to accommodate the full range of human emotion, and we'll be all the more glad for it. I can't imagine how such a really fascinating, intriguing, and beautifully atmospheric trailer could possibly inspire this level of vitrol. You've all just been aching to bitch huh? You do realise you all just crucified the savior right?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Am I the only person who DOES NOT CARE about this film?

    by 5onthe5

    It looks like all CGI-heavy films look: like watching someone else play a video game. And has there ever been any work of art this long in the making that was any good? Does Chinese Democracy mean nothing? I'll stick with Starship Troopers, thanks.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Oh, and you know what ELSE sucks about this whole premise?

    by Ironhelix

    the fact that this "fantastic" world is populated by dinosaurs, and 10ft tall blue humans. The next time, take all that money and go buy yourselves an imagination, and THEN make a movie. Fuck.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Is this a remake of Ferngully or is it actually a sequel? Either way, my fur friends in Second Life are glad somebody's finally made a movie just for them.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by LaserPants

    Wait a second, Cameron wasn't shouting up and down saying that this was going to be a "game changer"? Thats what I remember. Thats been the hype from the man himself for several months. That it was going to be the most amazing explosion of 3d efx wizardry ever. Dude, we even had arguments about it and ridiculously over-the-top his rhetoric was.<br><br>I think it looks really cool, but NOWHERE NEAR as cool as the hype, largely from him and/or his camp, led us all to believe. I'll definitely be seeing it, think it looks cool, but efx-wise it does not even approach "game-changing."

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    NEW JAY-Z VIDEO!!!

    by Series7

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619098/20090819/story.jhtml <P> Who the fuck is that dork talking about the video before hand?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Looks Incredible. Cameron is BACK!

    by Rindain

    The CGI performance capture is amazing. As is the shot of the ship landing in the forest, and mvoements of the plants. This movie looks EPIC and, most importantly, Cameron's record is perfect.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Great... for a Pixar Movie

    by Action Hero

    Is this the new Monsters, Inc. 2 trailer?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    KillDozer

    by Series7

    AAAAAhahahah thats funny. About the wheel chair. <P> Then again think about now. We can get your dick hard when you are dead. Give hair to the hairless, but haven't done shit to fix cancer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2782/bluwwang.png

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    umm 5onthe5

    by Juwanna_Mann_2_Fanboy

    usually when someone spends a decade working on a film, making sure EVERY aspect is perfect, it turns out pretty well. Especially when it's James fucking Cameron. Why don't you see the movie on the big screen in 3D (and make sure your brain is turned on) before you judge it?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    When's this game come out again?

    by RobertBaron

    The script, performances and direction better rock because the CGI blows. None of it looks convincing. I don't see any huge advances based on the trailer. The CGI movement still is off. The characters look gummy and cartoony and the backgrounds look like something out of Myst. Unless the movie as a whole is utterly fantastic, this has disaster written all over it. <p> Which may be a good thing. A huge financial Heaven's Gate disaster may just get Cameron back on the Terminator ship to right that course.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    So does he just take over the mind of a blue cat

    by Series7

    Or do they make up a whole new Blue Cat?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    I can relate to this story. Originally skeptical of the anthro community, I went deep undercover as a cheetah man in Second Life and discovered an amazing world where I met the love of my life, a nine foot tall transsexual unicorn.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    I've been talking about the lack of CG "evolution" for years...

    by Viewer 3

    But every time I bring it up on this site, I get pegged as an "elitist". When I talk about how cartoony and unnaturally smooth and fluid lazy motion capture looks, people pretend like I'm just LOOKING for something to hate. Now suddenly people are crawling out of the woodwork to actually recognize that there hasn't been any significant CG evolution since Jurassic Park.<p><p>As I've said in other TBs, I thought Gollum was a step in the right direction, and I hoped that character animation would really take off from there. Unfortunately it's only gotten more and more lazy. Everything in this trailer still looks like either rubber, latex, or plastic. Rubber and latex for the skin of pretty much every living CG thing, and plastic for everything else.<p><p>And come on, are there really people stupid enough to say "Oh well maybe these shots just aren't finished and it'll look way better in the final release"? Honestly, I can understand why some still want to cling to hope, but it doesn't take a very high IQ to see the many logical and technical reasons why the enormous makeover required for this film to reach a better level of realism is impossible at this point. Use your brain, damn.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Bluecats

    by Series7

    Anyone up for calling fans of the film that? You know like Browncoats or BSG Nerds.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Flame me if you want.

    by Gabba-UK

    it looked very good but in terms of ocular rapeage... It barely touched the sides. Sorry. Just my opinion. And as one of the 10 percent of the population that gets headaches from 3D.....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    I don't like the look of it...

    by moonlightdrive

    it's like a cartoon. Not excited about this movie.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Floating rocks? FLOATING FUCKING ROCKS?!?!?

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    Though I have to admit theres some impressing visuals here I was kinda shocked. What was this talk about putting so much work into making this Pandora world as realistic as possible? I was willing to buy these giant stone rings, alhthough no geological explanation for those comes to mind immediately. Sorry, but when the first floating rocks showed up i thought Mr. Cameron must be kidding. This was supposed to be science fiction, wasn't it? Floating rocks that's not science fiction, that's fantasy. You should hear the utter distaste i put into the word "fantasy" in such occasions.<p> Or is this the film's McGuffin? Are the nasty humans there to mine for the world's precieous anti gravity pixie dust?<p> Big blue elves with even bigger eyes, this seems to be made for the generation anime. I prefer some science in my science fiction. Guess teenagers are gonna love it. May not tank after all. <p> And yes, I'm still going to see this film, as we all are.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    looks like Final Fantasy cut scenes.

    by shogunshin

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    I can't believe anyone says it looks horrible, it doesn't look h

    by Magic Rat

    But it doesn't appear that it continues the progression of CGI that Cameron started with T2 going all the way through Lord of the Rings. It seems like a minor step forward, instead of a major one, and I think that's why people are upset. Most were expecting a huge leap and in 2D, its hard to tell if this is that much of a leap. We might all be singing a different tune come December, though.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    THIS WILL BE A GAME CHANGER, AFTER IT FUCKING BOMBS, STUDIO'S...

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Will think twice about spendig 300 million on a fucking movie and start financing smaller movies.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    We're actually setting up the Blue Cat Corral in Second Life right now. Stop by if you want to share thoughts, poetry, or song.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    69DUDE

    by codymr

    You may be right... both Cameron and Lucas have sworn off 35mm film for 24P digital film making as well.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    What really stinks isnt the letdown of the trailer

    by ominus

    Its the whole promotion thing.Fox has really fucked it up with this,especially if we are talking about a such overhyped and anticipated movie. <p>I dont know if Cameron has reacted,given an official statement or broke some heads in Fox.But he should do something with Fox and how they handle the whole PR thing. <p>Things like crashed sites,inability of geting tickets or downloading the trailer,all these cause more damage to the film than promote.and more importantly a better trailer,and better movie/production captures should have been releashed to the impatient audience/geekdom. <p>in other words,what Fox has done until now doesnt give justice to the movie,Cameron should take control of this fuckfest and finally i hope the tomorrows preview wont be one more victim of Fox incompetence.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    District 9, It Would Appear, Is The Actual Game Changer

    by LaserPants

    Not because the efx were mind-blowing, but because they managed to make a 37 million dollar indie-ish flick look like 200 million dollar blockbuster. THAT is going to be the challenge to beat, especially in these tough times -- making cool ass movies as cheaply as possible that still feature good efx, rather than blowing hundreds of millions of dollars on something that doesn't really look all that much better.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Emergency bulletin from Second Life: our model makers don't know what Na'Vi cocks are supposed to look like. Can someone please get Cameron to open his concept vaults?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    just noticed somethin else....

    by Magic Rat

    the female na'vi have four fingers and the male avatar has five. why?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Yeah floating rock like in Nagrand in WOW

    by ominus

    which is uber cool. And they are talking about a realistic alien world,not a realistic terran world FOR FUCKS SAKE

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Second Life update: we've managed to put realistic cocks on the Avatar mech suits, still no progress on the Na'vi.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Avatar and the Uncanny Valley

    by NOENDER

    Just I said from the footage at SDCC, it’s going to be the best movie on years, BUT still not completely across the "Uncanny valley"... The most evident CGI? The mechas and the messy rotto work on the guy on the chopper (!), the most realistic? Neytiri firing the arrow or Sully screaming (as a Na'vi).... And those people saying that we are "haters" because we don't think the effects are completed realistic?....*sigh*... Anyways, I just "adjusted" my expectations of the movie (FX-wise) and now I’m just getting ready to enjoy the extended trailer tomorrow... and on December, watch what will surely be one of the milestones of modern cinema...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Wolves in space.

    by Mr Soze

    Everything I' ve heard and seen says this is Dances with Wolves in space.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Xbox game? Give me whatever you guys are smoking.

    by KDiher

    This is easily one of the best CGI I've seen ever. Don't compare that fake-ass floating fortress of D-9 with many of the shots you see here. Yeah, the Aliens look 'fake' to use. It's only logical because they don't share our freakin anatomy and your brains can't comprehend that.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    codymr

    by 69DUDE

    Gagh!! He really is the new Lucas.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    I think it looks pretty good

    by savagedave

    End

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Isn't the film intended to be seen in 3D though

    by Jaka

    Because that's part of what excites me. Trying to imagine what I see in the trailer in 3D on a giant ass screen. And I still think it looks great and not at all like what several people have used as comparison. Not mind shattering or world changing, but my mind is telling me it's going to be a fun ride in the theater all the same.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    My eyeballs are still virgins

    by MattmanReturns

    The movie certainly looks pretty, and will probably be very neat in 3D, but I could say the same of Beowulf. The shots of humans in action look too plastic. I'd rather they just used real people. Some of the closeups were impressive though. I'll definitely see it, but keeping my expectations in check.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    regarding the navi design...

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    I'm not a huge fan, but the thing is they have to be relatively human looking because Worthingtons character falls in love with one of them.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Second Life update: Avatar Day is a hit at Furtopia 2k9, but could Cameron please release some tracks from the score? We've got the Ferngully soundtrack and "Earth Song" by MJ on a loop.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    This is a step forward

    by LeFlambeur

    not a leap foward, perhaps not as graphically amazing as promised, but I can see where the money went. There are just too many people working with CGI for anyone to expect the kind of OMG reaction that this footage might have had say five or ten years ago.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Magic Rat...

    by 69DUDE

    I think it's something to do with the female only being able to fit four fingers up her pussy, and the male needing five fingers to properly grip his cock. I can't confirm any of that though...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    You gotta be a horny motherfucker to fuck a blue bitch!

    by blackmantis

    I mean, I ain't a racist, but if the bitch is blue, there's something wrong with the pussy.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    What a bunch of babies....

    by TurdontheRun

    Nitpicking everything to death, and making absurd hyberbolic comparisons. There isn't a videogame on the market even close to the way this thing looks. Yes, Avatar looks terrific. I am fairly pleased. For all the whiners talking about how this isn't photo-real - look at the scene where Jake's avatar is on the bench- look at the feet-it looks like an actor in blue make-up and prosthetics. Or when he hits the glass - they've got rid of the overly smooth and fluid CG movements that digital characters usually have.<p> Granted, there are a couple of shots - most notably the group of Na'vi's shouting a battle cry, and Jake and Neytiri in the forest with the floating dandelions, which aren't quite over the uncanny valley, but this is still a heck of an achievement, and if you don't think so, then you are clearly a spoiled, joyless basement dweller. Suck it up because this is just a teaser, and things are only going to get even better when you see things in context and with the correct 3D presentation - not to mention that they'll be doing a lot of fine-tuning/ color correcting on the visuals in the run-up to the release. All you blase fuckers will be eating it as this movie becomes a phenomenon.<p>Avatar - Attempting forced entry on Dec 18th!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    lmao

    by Jaka

    Dances With Wolves is like, easily in my top ten favorite movies of all time. Probably near the top five. So there you go. lol

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    MOTION CAPTURE IN ONLY GOOD FOR BIG MOVEMENTS......

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Gollum worked because they had Serkis’s performance as a reference for the CGI artists who went in and animated the face by hand. Motion capture is okay for body movement but it completely lacks any sort of fine detail when it comes to peoples faces which is why you end up with these deadeyed zombies that Zemekis has in his movies these days.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Enough of this Avatar bullshit...bring on The Wolfman!!!

    by Kirbymanly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWjDc-d2DSQ&feature=player_embedded

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    floating rocks

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    are because of some crazy fluctuations in this planet's magnetic field...I read that in one of the recent articles online in the build-up to avatar day.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    That was fucking awesome!!!

    by TheWaqman

    I don't know what your guys' problems are with it. The action set-pieces look fucking epic. Definitely looks like an extremely entertaining film.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Second Life Advisory Bulletin: Could users wearing Ferngully avatars please stay clear of the Avatar Faire grounds? I just got an e-mail from the VP of Fox Interactive Marketing about brand confusion.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    @ Viewer 3 - you are so right

    by 5onthe5

    I guess there have been advances in "background" CGI, the stuff you don't notice, scenery and environmental effects. But in terms of full-CGI creatures / characters taking part in a scene, Jurassic Park remains the 16-year-old gold standard. Gollum was also very impressive, but I wasn't impressed by the battle elephants or CGI people in LOTR.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Schindlers List 3-D? WTF

    by technotranceporter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9P_St-sOWY

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    I've seen more realistic flash animation

    by Cyan09

    seriously, this is the shit Cameron has had people wanking off about for the last year? If I wanted to see a live action cartoon I'd go watch GI Joe, at least that movie didn't talk itself up as high art. The CG looks like hell, should have hired Pixar.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Floating rocks

    by savagedave

    Think thats because of the 'Unobtanium' which is the substance that people are on the planet to mine. Used to have the script to this from years ago.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    That guy said it best:

    by ominus

    a user in io9.com: <p> I do this work professionally and have friends working at Weta on this.... <p> the environments are stunning, the mechs and ships and the various tech is gorgeous... the characters are very good, they are creeping up the other side of the uncanny valley but not all the way out. I don't think it's the work that causes this but the design, the Na'vi are far to close to looking like humans...the Jake avatar's smile is so human that it just doesn't work, so many people are saying that the aliens in District 9 are better - but they didn't look at all like humans. <p>the real judgement will come in the theatre in 3D with dialogue and some 'acting moments'...some great moments in the teaser - the toes, the hands...but it's the face that people will be looking at and getting their sense of the characters from...as it stands this isn't going to change anything in VFX, except perhaps the willingness of the studios to allow these kinds of characters in their films.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Second Life James Cameron Q&A continues. User WulffShadow would like to know: "Can the Na'vi have sex with the pterodactyls/jungle cats and if so can you describe what that's like"

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Apple sucks and Quicktime is malware

    by felwithe

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    and ANOTHER thing...

    by Ironhelix

    the have spaceships, and can transplant someone's consciousness into an alien, but the guy still rolls around in an 18th century wheelchair? What the fuck is that all about?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    HAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    hahahahahahaahhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggghhhhhh..... Sorry, just had to come and laugh at supposed film lovers who don't recognise how fucking special this is going to be. I personally have not been this excited since the year we had Lucas, Kubrick and Malick return......FUCK ALL YOU PUNKS. THE KING IS BACK BABY!!!!!!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Chewbacca is one pissed-off racist.

    by AzulTool

    Because once the blue folk moved into the neighborhood, it drove the property values way down....I mean, it's hard to really judge on a computer screen. But, I can see how this is considered the next evolutionary step in CGI. The image clarity during some of the action scenes is pretty impressive. Very easy to follow. But, the characters still have a hint of that unnatural motion. And, I don't want to hear about how they are aliens, and we have no point of reference from which to judge their movements. Like many TBers said before, it still looks a little cartoonish. You know it does. I had to watch it with the volume down because I'm at work, so I don't know if the dialogue sounds gay or not. Nice visuals, though.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Last!!

    by BusterRantCasey

    And It's Super Gay

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Anyone who's bitching at Cameron...

    by mefrog

    ...for not making something "game-changing" based on watching this teaser is a complete fucking moron.<br> <br> Look at the fucking detail that has gone into every shoot. Look at how fucking spectacular all the environments look. Look at those absolutely amazing looking battle sequences. Think of it all when it's in 3-D. It really is shaping up to be like something we've never seen... if the rest of this movie is like this, I'll be there three times opening weekend.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    WHY IS CGI GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY YEAR???

    by CarlThorMark1978

    In every other instance, technology gets cheaper over time and yet the exact opposite is true with CGI effects. The entire Lord of the Ring’s trilogy was done for 300 mill and yet King Kong, which came out two years later, cost over 200 million, the equivalent of two Rings movies. Ten year ago I said to myself that CGI was going to revolutionize cinema because over time it would get cheaper and allow Directors to make whatever they wanted at a fraction of the cost because of the limitless potential of CGI. Some people point to District 9 but I don’t believe for one second that that movie only cost 30 mill and I think that Blomkamp and Jackson are lying, having kept the real budget off the books.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    What a cesspool this place has become. Really.

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Once any of you people actually learn anything about this industry, then you're welcome to give your advice or opinion. You people seriously know fuck-all about anything. All you do is talk shit with no real substantial knowledge to back any of it up. Are you the basement-dwelling, X-box playing mama's boys the world says you are? Who knows. Maybe, maybe not. But you'll never make anything the world will spend money to see or enjoy or grow up watching, or call their all-time favorite films. All you know how to do is talk out your ass. I'm sure there's a great future in that. Have a nice life, morons.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Did "The Core" steal the Unobtanium concept?!

    by blakindigo

    WTF?!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    To the guy who said "a better dances with wolves"

    by MattmanReturns

    Fuck you. Dances With Wolves was perfect, and didn't have CG. Fucking kids.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    And why is it...

    by Ironhelix

    that aliens who have evolved on another planet, under the influence of a completely different ecosystem, look like night elves from World of Warcraft? Does ANYONE else sense a complete and absolute lack of ANY imagination here? Does Cameron (who has made some of my favorite movies) not realize that we have all seen this shit before? In goddamned VIDEOGAMES no less? I am totally baffled... there had better be some BIG surprises in the movie to save it from the crap that the trailer shows.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Photorealistic my ass.

    by Raymar

    This could have been done 10 years ago.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Visuals aside, I'm tiring of the whole

    by skimn

    Humans=bad, aliens=misunderstood species, plot concept. War Of The Worlds withstanding, Aliens was the last kick-ass "bad" alien film. I'm not counting Starship Troopers because of the whole facist angle.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    2 minutes or less and my mind is closed for business !

    by Keith Maniac

    Every year, year in year out, we hype the fuck out of things in our own minds, with a moderate amount of encouragement from the people who make these films. Every year after a 2 minute trailer or after watching the thing as a whole, we weep like fresh operation scars in a hot bath. Because like the spoilt, over-indulged, joyless, uninspired, jaded, experts that we are, we get angry, because we know, dont we, that deep down we spend too much time focusing on this shit and all the fucking fun has gone out of it. That trailer was not the face of fucking God, but it was impressive, a lot of people's hard graft i'd imagine and if you cant find just one good thing to say about it, i just dont know what the fuck anyone could say to you, i really fucking dont. Luckily i think most people in the world arent like some of the indentured knob cheese which is encrusted to this website

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Ahhhhhh good ole Unobtanium

    by Series7

    So that's why everything is going to look like its sort of floating and not really reacting to normal wind and gravity. Gotchya. We need to get that on our planet, then my life would look more photoreal.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    This looks like CRAP!!!

    by AtheistScum

    Sorry, I know the buzz, I think this movie looks like total shit. The story is stupid, the effects looks mind-boggling dumb, the "Avatars" or whatever they are called look cartoonish. The love scenes looked laughable. I know this movie will make shitloads of money, but I will not see it - it looks like total crapola to me. Plus who gives a shit about 3D - 3D ALWAYS sucks. 3D is NOT the future of film-making and Cameron is wasting huge money and blowing his whole career on this junk project.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Not Impressed

    by blhotz

    I really hope this looks better in IMAX because so far it looks like a clone of many other CGI duds.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Do the Navi like catfood as much as Prawns?

    by turketron_2

    Hey, somebody had to say it...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Such Nerd-Hate Going On. You're All So Pathetic.

    by Crow3711

    Just a bunch of losers railing against the hype by thinking they are unique and above it all by shitting on all the most popular and mainstream things going on when actually you are just being as conformist and pathetic as ever because you're just saying you think it's shit when we all know everyone is gonna at least check this out. You're all such hypocritical bastards.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    For people saying the Episode III CG was better:

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Watch the Kashykk sequence with the Wookies and realise your mistake.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    it is a PLANETARY ROMANCE

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    <p>JUST FUCKING GOOGLE THAT AND READ WHAT YOU FIND.</p> <p>James Cameron said in an interview back in 2007 that this whole thing was heavily inspired by ERB and other pulp adventure writers working in that particular sub-genre of sci-fi. That sub-genre has always had more in common with your average fantasy story than with most sci-fi stuff. "Planetary romance" is basically a "lost world" story set on another planet instead of an ancient civilization here on earth. Sci-fi has not always been cyberpunk and space opera. There was a time when these kinds of stories were the best-sellers and the most popular.</p> <p>If anything, this is Cameron's riff on a classic pulp sci-fi adventure story. Cinematically he might have intended it to be some sort of leap forward, but in terms of the story, he ALWAYS intended it to be a bit of a throwback/homage.</p> <p>http://tinyurl.com/m6ghpt</p> <p>and...</p> <p>http://tinyurl.com/nydda7</p>

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Well at least these Aliens are going to be hard to kill

    by Series7

    They can only be killed by eye-fucking. Thats much better then spyware/aids/water.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    There were "bad" aliens in ID4

    by turketron_2

    Though maybe you don't consider that a kick-ass film. Lots of shit blew up though!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Hollywood, stop using CGI RIGHT NOW and hire Peter Jackson to do

    by felwithe

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Suing Cameron...

    by Dude_Abides

    this one time like ten years ago, i was on this dr. pepper, gummi bear, and acid diet.. for medicinal reasons, anyway one day I went outside to watch the D&D kids play dress-up in the park. This looks just like that!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Second Life Update: User Crow3711 says: "Just a bunch of losers railing against the hype by thinking they are unique and above it all by shitting on all the most popular and mainstream things going on when actually you are just being as conformist and pathetic as ever because you're just saying you think it's shit when we all know everyone is gonna at least check this out. You're all such hypocritical bastards." Special thanks to Crow3711 for solving our modeling problem, the new Na'vi cocks look perfect.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    For AVATAR not to suck major ass. It NEEDS...

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Iggy Pop.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Avatar is not "popular" or "mainstream"

    by turketron_2

    Whatchu talkin bout?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I'll bet it doesn't look photo realistic

    by hippie_killer

    on your shit-ass monitor. Time for an upgrade.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    JAR JAR THE MOVIE!

    by hakai

    JARVATARD

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    They are human lookalike because Sams character

    by ominus

    is going to 'fuck' the alien female Neuteri.And i am sorry,but we are not talking about hardcore scifi here,its a movie for everybody and not just for the few hardcore geeks who have grown up with serious,pure scifi books. <p>Audience has somehow to relate with this love aspect of the movie,or do u think that the general audiene is prepared to accept a human fuckin a sponglike alien? <p>THINK BEFORE U POST

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    JAR JAR THE MOVIE!

    by hakai

    JARVATARD

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    FURGULLY: THE LAST AVATAR

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Cameron, in a FOX Myspace Fanchat session presented by Pepsi Max, further clarified the concept of Planetary Romance: "The bows and arrows and bead jewelry and the little leather rag outfits they wear are meant to signal that the Na'vi represent non-whites."

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Where are the airbenders?

    by turketron_2

    Wrong movie...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    LlGHTST0RMER

    by just pillow talk

    Don't leave us! We need your enlightenment on everything movie related! How dare we express any opinions on a entertainment website which ENCOURAGES opinions. <p>Fuck us!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    People who are criticising the negative reactions...

    by 5onthe5

    When a director has ten years off between films...and at least 3 years hyping up his new project...building anticipation...saying that he's wanted to make this film FOREVER but ONLY NOW is there the VISUAL POWER to deliver his "game-changing" vision...then drops the first teaser trailer...it better kick some serious ass, or that director will look like a fool. He WANTS us to react strongly. And so we are.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Looks pretty damn cool, if you ask me!

    by geeko2000

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Tree Of Life- Fucking your Butthole In 2009

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

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  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Let the HYPE BEGIN!!!!!!

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Ironhelix, REALLY, THEY STILL HAVE CRIPPLES IN AVATAR'S FUTUREWO

    by CarlThorMark1978

    They can genetically engineer a fucking alien and transplant a person’s consciousness into it and yet they can’t fix his fucking legs? Really scientifically accurate Cameron, you fucking douchebag.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    When Jake went rouge all they had to do

    by ThePilgrim

    was pull the plug on that catscan looking machine he was placed in to become one with his Avatar. It's that simple to stop him from acting like an ass after he switched sides for some alien trim. There's something not right with the fact that the film ignores that.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Lightstormer, you'd better get back to your

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    tram, over there are Universal Studios! You know how they hate it where their guides are late!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Nobody Is Bitching That Cameron Didn't Make A Game Changer

    by LaserPants

    We're calling him to task for the fact that the efx clearly haven't lived up to the hype -- hype he himself started! We're pointing out that his ego bluster was just that -- hollow posturing. I say this, thinking it definitely does looks cool, its just not what the man SHOUTED at us for a few years that it would be. It looks about on par, efx wise, with LOTR, the Star Wars prequels, King Kong, and the Matrix sequels. Which isn't to say that it looks bad, just that it doesn't live up to HIS hype.<br><br> Oh and like I said, District 9 is the game changer -- making good efx on the cheap. Anyone can throw more money at a picture, but it takes serious skill to make a $37 million dollar flick look like a $200 million one. And with the economy they way it is, the cheap-but-GREAT aesthetic is going to be the new trend. Watch.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    I think

    by Shaner Jedi

    it looks great. I'll be there. Does it look "photoreal"? I don't even know what that's supposed to mean anymore. I'll be in line opening day.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    This trailer is giving me lovers balls!

    by standundermyumbrella

    and blisters on my shaft! i am completely dry!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Re: AVATAR

    by ArmageddonProductions

    "Yeah, I read that issue of 'Heavy Metal', too." - Dr. Thaddeus Venture.</p><p> Actually, I'm just kidding. I have no idea what everybody's bitching about, aside from the collective need to piss on anything because this is the Internet and they can. First of all, the CGI looks pretty goddamn impressive, like "Gollum" impressive and maybe even a little more solid than "Gollum". I'll grant you that the character design is a little goofy (I'm sure they were aiming for "friendly anthropomorphic that the audience can relate to" and wound up making compromises), but once you actually see them moving, and in the fabled "Pandora" environment, it works for me. What the hell were guys expecting? Exactly how "realistic" does it have to be?!? Would you have been happier with puppets, ala DARK CRYSTAL, or stop-motion? Truthfully, if this were twenty years earlier, you'd be lodging the same complaints at either process. I certainly didn't get the PHANTOM MENACE vibe from that trailer, I think it completely works. Fortunately, this talkback represents a very small sector of the doubtlessly huge audience that's gonna go see it this December, and the people bitching here bitching about it can stay locked in their rooms and write more fucking STAR TREK fan-fiction or whatever.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Reading all the tripe from the haters for hates sake....

    by DrMorbius

    You begin to realize why<P>ANIMALS EAT THEIR YOUNG!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Simpletons Who Jerk off to District 9...

    by Liberty Valance

    Good movie? Sure, it's a solid B/B+. But it's guilty of the most pathetic, unimaginative cop-out in sci-fi: they made every Prawn look exactly the fucking same. Jesus fuck they had to render one fucking model and dress one Prawn up in clothes so you'd know CJ is actually an important character. D9 is entertaining, sure, but there's nothing profound, insightful or visionary about it. And if you think there is, you really need to read more books and learn to think for yourself.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Good. Exciting even! Not breathtaking.

    by maybe banana-nut

    It will be great just to see original material enter the sci-fi. I do trust cameron's storytelling and look forward to this. Blue cattle-eyed humanoids within the lighting environment of another planet are not something our eyes are not used too. Less believable than D9 aliens by far. On the level of Smeagol I would say. Is that not good enough for us anymore. New technology does not always equal realism but could mean better performance.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    2009 will go down as one the great years for Science Fiction.

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Tree Of Life, Avatar, District 9, Moon, Star Trek, 2012, Transformers:ROTF, Daybreakers, Gamer, Outlander, Surrogates, Pandorum, The Box, The Fouth Kind, The Time-Traveler's Wife, Knowing...<p> Sci-Fi hasn't had this good of a year since 1997 gave us Gattica, Contact, Dark City (technically Feb.98), Starship Troopers, The Fifth Element, Men In Black, Face/Off, The Lost World: Jurassic Park, Alien: Resurrection, Deep Rising, Sphere, Event Horizon, Mimic, and the original Star Wars trilogy special editions.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    One last point

    by yiannis

    ... and this is something that all the naysayers should REALLY think about.<br><br>I've watched that trailer this afternoon more times than I care to say. While that might make me a sad fuck, it has also made something else crystal clear. When I first watched the trailer, some of the shots - especially the two full screen close ups of Zoe Saldana's character - did jar a little with me. It didn't dilute my anticipation and I thought the effects were awe-inspiring, but I was still very conscious of looking at an effect. On an aside, I think this is what most people mean with their criticism, which is why I have such big problems with people resorting to crude insults and misplaced derision. Can't anybody express themselves properly anymore?<br><br>However, I've found that the more you watch - even if it IS the same scenes over and over - the less the effects SEEM like effects, to the point that those close ups now honestly look to me completely real.<br><br>This is, I think, an important lesson for the film as a whole. 20 minutes in people will probably be very conscious of the effects, but IF Cameron does his storytelling job properly (and track record suggests he will), by the end people should be so immersed in the world that effects don't matter anymore.<br><br>The last card is, obviously, the 3D, but I can't comment on that yet until I see the preview tomorrow, so I won't. I imagine there will be a whole new TB created specifically anyway.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Oh...

    by skimn

    and Independence Day..did I say "good"?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    It Certainly Does Look Cool

    by LaserPants

    I'll be there opening weekend too.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    KNOWING FUCK ALL ABOUT ANYTHING IS WHY TALKBACK OPINIONS ARE GOL

    by BringingSexyBack

    The more the fuck all, the better.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Honestly it looks pretty good...

    by Flames gotta Eat

    the teaser makes me want to see more, it intrigues me. I think the CG looks as good as possible for the tech we have today and for such a scale that this film is on. This looks King Kong/LOTR big. I've seen the trailer a few times now, in 1080p, and I've paused it during effects shots. The Na'vi look damn 3D and fully realized to me. The main characters for the most part look full bodied and not flat. The big problem still with CG and motion capture is the movement still isn't 100% natural. But what is natural for machines and creatures which don't exist? We're saying it doesn't look photo-real but we don't have photos of these things to compare that to! I'm just saying I think a lot of people are being hard on it but keep in mind these are the best CG artists in the world with the biggest budget in the world. It's as good as current tech allows. You're an idiot if you think this looks like a video-game or Star Wars. This is better realized. Quit your fucking whining and let's just hope for a good fantasy film.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    THE BLASTING OF THE PLOT HOLES HAS BEGUN

    by BringingSexyBack

    Say it loud CTM!!!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Sam Worthington looks fake. But those tall blue animals are amaz

    by gruemanlives