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Peter Berg Discusses A HANCOCK Sequel!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Merrick here...
Peter Berg talked to Sci Fi Wire about ideas being kicked around for a sequel to HANCOCK. We first learned of a possible sequel a while back, although everyone involved was quick to indicate it wasn't exactly on the fast track & was being seen as more of a long term possibility.
To my knowledge, this is the first time an actual direction for the film has been discussed publicly.
At the end of last year's Hancock, it was revealed that Will Smith's superpowered character was actually an immortal god who became vulnerable only when in the presence of his goddess companion (Charlize Theron). Berg confirmed that a sequel would elaborate on the film's mythology.
"There might be another god out there," Berg said in an exclusive interview last month in Pasadena, Calif. "Might be another one."
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Berg also confirmed that the subplot of Jason Bateman's publicist character should pick up where it left off in Hancock, where he's starting his charity campaign.
..says Berg HERE.
As Sci Fi Wire points out, if two "gods" getting together caused such a ruckus in the first film - one can only image the madness caused by injecting a third deity(ish) being into the mix.
Personally, I'd prefer to see a HANCOCK sequel that's not so...easy. To me, HANCOCK feels like the ending of a bigger story. I'd be much more interested in seeing what came before HANCOCK - Smith & Theron's horribly dysfunctional relationship as they come up through time, plagued by persecution and misunderstanding, inexorably drawn together but also careening towards their inevitable (and necessary?) separation. All of this is implied by the first film, and could make a pretty potent prequel I think.
"There might be another god out there," Berg said in an exclusive interview last month in Pasadena, Calif. "Might be another one."
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Berg also confirmed that the subplot of Jason Bateman's publicist character should pick up where it left off in Hancock, where he's starting his charity campaign.
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I only just saw Hancock recently after giving it a pass at the cinema. It looked like it might be a good superhero flick but I'd read about the whole 'dysfunctional gods' plot line so avoided it until I could get it dirt cheap. I was pretty unimpressed. Anyone else think the revelation that Theron's character was a goddess should have been handled in any way other than out of the blue?
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This is one of the few times that I really want to see a prequel. I usually think that they're pointless, but here I totally agree with Merrick, that felt like the end of a huge story.
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A two hour movie of just those You Tube clips of him fucking up. Much better then the actual movie.
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Hancock had no clue what it wanted to be. It was a mess.
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Was going to make great things. Sure Handcock made tons of money, but leave it alone. Move on. Will Smith movies are a hole.
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hancock had the stupidest story ever
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HELP YOUR MOM AND DAD BY GETTING A JOB SO YOU CAN HELP PAY FOR SCHOOL SUPPLIES, WAHOO!!! SAY WHAT' WHA'??? TAKE OFF YOUR SHOES BEFORE ENTERING THE HOUSE, SOMEONE JUST CLEANED THIS FLOOR, WAHOO!!! SAY WHAT' WHA'???
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A prequel may be better; where could they go from there?
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Im not sure if it was because I heard a lot of bad things and my expectations were low, but I thought it was really good. It would have easily sneaked into my top 15 from last year... maybe even top 10?
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my own damn fault, though.
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Who can appear in more movies in one year! Bateman can be funny, but at least Ken seems to have some sort of range. Also did I miss something in the Hangover? Was Ken the break out star of that movie? Because since that movie he is in every fucking comedy coming out. And if you look at the All About Steve poster, it looks like they photo shoped him in it last minute to bank on his fame.
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Look - I GET that people wanted to see a whole film of a fucked up superhero. But there's no arc there. Mainstream, well-written cinema needs an arc for the lead. Now a comic-book with someone as a fucked up superhero? That'd rule.
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...I really liked it, but it felt like the good parts version of a much longer story. You could have had a couple seasons just unraveling the mystery of who Hancock is. The Theron character's transformation from perfect mom and wife to angry badass was far too hasty...again, a couple season's worth of fun to be had there. And Bateman's character gets over his wife's back story too fast as well...I could buy it, but it would take him a few seasons to come around. In short, I really liked the dark turn, but all of the story lines needed to unfold over weeks and months...not minutes.
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now that would be a good movie unlike the Hancock peice of garbage
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I'd honestly rather see a sequel about Jason Bateman's character. Without him, that first movie was dead in the water.
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Handcock was not good. Come on you know better then that. It was fucking garbage. It's easily one of the worst movies I've ever seen. First off Will Smith just does not work as that character, everything is so obvious. And the last 2/3rds of the film just don't work. Had they just made some villian, and have him be some sort of Superman it may have worked.
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and thought it got more flack than it deserved. But a sequel? The dumbest, least imaginative idea is always to just multiply the elements from the first movie -- 3 villians instead of 1 in Batman, ditto in Superman... oh, and let's just add more gods in Hancock 2.
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Just a bad, dumb movie.
Please don't make another one.
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Dude, you know me. Of course I don't. I dug the flick. Not saying it's awards-worthy, but it was entertaining. And I liked where they took it. I will agree on the villain front, and it wasn't as good as Unbreakable.
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My problem with the first one was that there was no real villian, or a real conflict for that matter. It's mostly Hancock flying from point A-B-C-D-etc. fucking up everything as he goes.
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Hancock will travel back in time to discover the original Kenyan birth certificate. Thus derailing the image BHO's handlers have created.
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Stay away from the water!!!
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Dude, you know me. Of course I don't. I dug the flick. Not saying it's awards-worthy, but it was entertaining. And I liked where they took it. I will agree on the villain front, and it wasn't as good as Unbreakable.
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FUCKING SHENANIGANS
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Smith and Theron from hooking up and call it CockBlock,
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And I was ready to hate it once the details started to flow out, but I enjoyed it for what it was. By the way, I also thought the score was one of the best I heard for a "superhero" movie in a long time. Thanks for posting the link as a reminder.Now, having said all that, of course there is going to be a sequel, and of course there's going to be another immortal in it. The question is will it be another disenfrancised hero or a villian with amnesia, but whatever they do they need to think that through. Hey, Inspector Gadget probably looked good on paper too before they greenlighted it... okay, maybe not.
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Peter Berg should not waste his time with this shite. He's a good director, direct something else!
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Did AICN just link to an illegally uploaded copy of a track from John Powell's score?
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That "twist" about an hour into the film was fucking terrible, took the story in a completely weird and terrible direction. As if they couldn't be bothered to continue on the first hours ok plot.
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There was a reason this script sat on the shelf for ten years--it sucked. It was only put into production because of the writer's strike (i.e. the studio needed a script they already owned). Consider this: If Hancock's counterpart hated him so much and wanted to get away from him, why live in the same damn city? Stupid, lazy writing. Not to mention the "coincidence" of his publicist making them meet up again. Just lazy, lazy writing. The concept was good, but the movie was poorly executed. This one needed a few rewrites. And a sequel, at this point, is only going to go from bad to worse. Will Smith himself said Hancock was "if Stone Cold Steve Austin" was a superhero. Well, Stone Cold doesn't have a character arc, he's just one way. That's where this movie really failed, trying to take the Austin-like antics and then make them serious and dramatic. Would we really want a Stone Cold movie where he falls in love? Fuck no. Hancock was a movie with an identity crisis.
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ICONAGRPAHY IN THE FILM?it's everywhere! Is it presenting Hancock, as some sort of angel/ creature of good? I didn't get it.When me and the buds saw the shit storm when it came out-we ALL agreed that there must've been HEAVY EDITING, because it felt to be mising alot of informative shit! Pleaser,someone tell me they get the EAGLE signifance....
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"Had they just made some villian, and have him be some sort of Superman it may have worked. "Isn't that the idea behind the sequel mentioned here?"but felt like they ran out of steam half way through and felt like another script..."Ummm... cause it was. It was a Superman movie originally. Remember that Nicolas Cage as superman movie years ago that never got off the ground? This is it. they just added a new backstory to make it a different character. How else could anyone believe Nic Cage as superman? Now a disheveled drunken superman I could see him doing that. They were even considering Bill Murray for awhile.
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If so the Universe would be partially complete thanks to loafing.
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It is, by far the worst thing Will Smith has ever done. The script was clumsy and the movie couldn't decide which part of the story it wanted to tell. No sequel should ever be made for a film that was as terrible as Hancock. Kill this idea now.
I thought Peter Berg wanted to make a new 'Dune' film. If that's the case, he should be concentrating on that project. A project like 'Dune' won't just fall together. David Lynch is an infinitely more talented director than Berg (a failed actor) will ever be; and he thoroughly screwed the pooch when he tried to make 'Dune'. If Berg is muddying his thought processes, with possible Hancock scenarios, his 'Dune' project will fail miserably. -
I never really searched....but here goes...sorta cool notion, and DOES explaina bit....but HANCOCK still scuked.
(1) He is potentially immortal and has lived long enough to be living at the same time as the ancient greeks (at least 3000 years old).
(2) The eagle symbol he wears: The symbol for zeus.
THE AETOS DIOS was a giant, golden eagle which served as Zeus' personal messenger and animal companion. According to some, the eagle was once a mortal king named Periphas, whose virtuous rule was so celebrated that he was came to be honoured like a god. Zeus, in anger, would have smote him with a thunderbolt, but Apollon intervened and, transforming the king into an eagle, set him beside the throne of Zeus. In other accounts, Zeus adopted the eagle as his bird when it first appeared to him before the Titan War as a sign of good omen. The eagle was later sent by Zeus to carry the handsome youth Ganymedes up to heaven to become the cupbearer of the gods.
(3) When Hancock asks Mary what there relationship is, she first tells him that she is his sistor and later that they were married. Hera was the wife and older sister of Zeus, making Mary the greek god Hera.
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Theron's character talked about how "they" were always after her and Hancock, trying to kill them or tear them apart. Was it a generic "they," maybe people who didn't like an interracial couple way back when? Or was the "they" someone or something out to specifically kill the immortals? That would be worth exploring, and maybe they'll fold that into this third immortal idea.
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Not enough to like, not enough to hate. It was just...there.No sequel please.
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... and detested the last tenth. I REALLY did not enjoy the ending ("reveal") at all! So I have to agree that going backwards holds more interest to me that going forward. However, glad Jason Bateman (possibly) continues to get work.
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The premise of the first was cool. It was that lame back story that killed it. So to make a second film flushing out what most didn't like about the first makes no sense. Pass
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of the infamous Hancock has sex with a 17 year old and when he nuts, she flys through the roof (or some crazy b.s. LIKE THAT...)
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I don't get it, are you some big Handcock fan or something? What are you trying to point out?
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Yep....Robert Downey Jr.!
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From what I remember of the film, there isn't come giant Scary Movie style jiz scene. And the 17 year old was Hayley Marie Norman who is a Deal or No Deal girl and in some female hygie product commercial thats every where right now. She's pretty terrible even in the small role. In the scene they are doing it, then he throws her off and they pan outside of the trailer he lives in and holes appear in his roof. I think there is some bang noise or something, but the holes seem to just be made from air. Like they edited out giant sloddering jiz bullets or something. It was more awkward then anything which was pretty standard for this movie.
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Needed some sort of scrolling text or voice over at the start of the film explaining the whole god thing. Rather then trying to make it some lame twist half way through. So you knew what to expect since they didn't handle the transition well at all.
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Here is a photo from the jiz scene. Its when he throws her off. http://tinyurl.com/lh55f4
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Aug 19, 2009 12:11:48 PM CDT
eagle symbols? what are you smoking?
by the_ad_wizard_who_came_up_with_this_one
i cannot remember anything about hancock, least of all any eagle symbology. this is a movie with a premise that was funny for 5 minutes on screen, which will be completely forgotten in the future - and rightly so. peter berg is such a fucking hack, can somebody stop him please? when i imagine hell in a nightmare it is a place where this guy directs a dune movie.
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Aug 19, 2009 12:12:23 PM CDT
The first half was good, then it became silly in the second
by stalkeye
The premise of a obnoxous,drunken and angry Superhero who has a PR guy is refreshing compared to the architypes that's on screen as of late. Then the story turns to shit due to revelation that Hancock and Theron's character had history and when they are together, their powers grow weaker.....oh, and there was the notable abcense of a major baddie.This Movie delivered the laughs and action during the first half and that's why I can't totally hate on Hancock.As for the Naysayers, well, I'm sure they were more content with last year's Speed Racer. XD
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I'd be more interested in just about anything else by Berg.
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I'm also really hoping for Ishtar 2 and Heaven's Gate 2. I simply love sequels that are necessary and feel organic (much like The Godfather 2). Oooh, I can't wait!
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it's just lazy and stupid. Think of a better insult.......something an 8 year old might not come up with.
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Speed Racer was worlds more creative, engaging and less stupid than Hancock in my opinion.
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Aug 19, 2009 12:19:48 PM CDT
Milking the superhero money teet for all it's worth
by chuck_chuckwalla
Hancock sucked.
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Go make another Hand-In-Cock movie, and leave Dune alone from your hack paws. Too many good properties already been ruined by fucking hacks like you, Peter Berg, it's good news you decided to do the right thing and leave Dune alone for professional and talented filmmakers. Stick to dumb fucking retard movies like your Hand-In-Cock, that's your line of specialty.
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The necessity to prevent Smith from having a sexual relationship killed the movie. This has been a pattern since "Bad Boys" and we can see that his two films that DID have it underperformed at the box office (Ali, and Seven Pounds). At the very least, remove the hyper-charge of a white blond as his putative love interest, and MAYBE the public won't flinch quite so hard. Trying to pretend that this isn't a factor is just ignoring the elephant in the living room.
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Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Hancock--the man knows his stuff! Can't wait for Jonah Hex!
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I suspect the reason Will Smith had no sex scenes in his recent movies is because if he did, his wife would bust his balls and cut off his dick and feed it to the sharks. She is who wears the pants at his home, totally. The dude is his wife's bitch.
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The "edgy" and "funny" Will Smith battles rumors of his sexual orientation by summoning the powers of Dianetics. It's projected to make $500 Million in it's opening weekend. Stick around for the extra scene at the end of the credits SPOILER ALERT: It's a hot scene featuring Will pulling a train with John Travolta and Tom Cruise next to a Volcano.
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Take the premise they've got, with Hancock having lost his memory and his wife trying to distance herself to protect him because their proximity cancels their powers. That's all good. But instead of the stupid twist of her hating him (so, why protect him?), they should have had a VILLAIN come in, THAT'S how they find out their past, and THAT'S why they're reunited--the villain, perhaps one of "THEY" who hunted them in the past, straps them to the torture table together so their powers slowly drain away, eventually weak enough so he can kill them. This gives the two heroes time to talk and give exposition, explain shit, and build drama. AND, it would have given plausible cause for the standard villain "wait to kill the heroes" scenario. And best of all, it would have made them truly heroic, in that they would have had to fight their way free and beat the bad guy without powers. Instead, we just got "goddess PMS plot twist". Snore.
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Aug 19, 2009 12:37:55 PM CDT
I'm one of the three only people in the world, who enjoyed...
by derlanghaarige
...Hancockfrom the beginning to the end. Yes, it bothers me that it feels like two movies squeezed into one ("Hancock goes to jail" and "Hancock and the secret of the super woman"), but I liked the characters, I like the world it built up, I LOVED the for a silly comedy surprisingly intense and dramatic climax, all in all, I'm ready for a sequel.
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Where was that in the movie. I've watched that movie 5 times. Yes I liked it until the whole Theron god thing.Then it just went weird. But I still like the movie. Hancock was a dick and stayed that way even at the end where he did something not so nice to Mike Epps. And with that previous post that Hancock may be Zeus I'm even more disappointed. And why not have Mark Hamil in the next one as the Cock Knocker reprising his role from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
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Tonight, He Comes is one of the best I ever read. What ended up on screen bore little resemblance to it.
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Would have loved to see Jon Hamm as Hancock and Steve Buscemi as Horus.
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Aug 19, 2009 12:44:24 PM CDT
How did they fight if they lose their powers around each other?
by zombieheathledger
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Or even Black Lightning?
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The premise was solid gold, but somehow they managed to make a dull, plodding, dreary, unfunny mess out of it. How could they miss such an easy target? It was hitting the side of a barn, for Pete's sake! And this whole god nonsense--it's like they can't decide what kind of move they want to make. I say, write this whole thing off as a major mistake and lesson of what not to do next time, and move on.
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...this is the kind of Will Smith sequel that'll make money, but no one REALLY wants. The first film had its amusing elements, but they TOTALLY blew the concept of a "superhero" who's a drunken asshole by casting one of the most likable and least-threatening movie stars on the planet and watering it down to a PG-13. And yeah, the fact that Smith rarely gets laid in the movies has a more-than-slightly racist tinge to it. Same thing with Denzel. Good-looking white actor = lots of screen pussy, whereas good-looking black actor = at most a brief kissing scene (less, if the love interest is a white chick). The only time you see black actors getting some is in "black movies".
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I thought they explained in the first that all the gods came in pairs. When one died, the partner died as well. And they only got weak in the presence of their partner. So a third god would necessitate the existence of a fourth.
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FAIL. So sick of that mentality, shame on you AICN for justifying the worst habits of assholes who make uncessary prequels.
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Why the fuck would I want to see more of this shit?!
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I think it was in the Director's cut in which HandCock is getting it on with some chick in his trailer. And yes, there was Jizz.Humorous, but best left on the cutting room floor.
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well, almost never.. there are a few exceptions. (i wouldnt have minded 'THE' prequels if they didnt suck.) even though i actually enjoyed hancock (to a certain extent) i dont want to see a hancock prequel because the characters arent timeless, i already learned where they came from, and i dont need that story heshed out in great detail. at the District 9 Q&A in chicago of course the first question was "so..sequel?" to which neil blokamp (sp?) replied, "yeah, im thinking prequel, there are a lot of stories to tell about the aliens arriving here." I'm sure there are, but i dont want to see them after i already know what happened. if you cant think of a good continuation to a story, id rather not see a sequel at all, than a prequel.
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was extremely powerful. I really don't get why Hancock was so hated, it was a really good - and interesting - take on the Superhero mythology.
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i was typing before i read your post halsolo.
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Austin DID have a character arc. His was rebel who gets a taste of gold and likes it... to the extent where he needs it, and forms a deal with his most hated enemy... then realises he's made a mistake and goes back to who he was. Hell, did you forget they showed him MARRIED on screen?
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nice find.I wa always curious!
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assface...there was eagle motifs all over-wake up! I was stone in the theater when i saw this(and hated it) and STILL noticed the eagles.First,its on his skully...then,itwas on an ad on the park bench he was sleeping on, then at the bank scene, there's a GIANT EAGLE STATUE, and at the end, he's holding a fucknig eagle on his arm! Enough for you? And-that after watching it 2 years ago.
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The fact Theron went to the hospital when he was shot. She should have known to leave the country for a minute so he can recover. She was douche nozzle. And people she didn't hate Hancock she knew she had to stay away from him for his own sake.
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Hancock was a bizarre viewing experience – tonally the film shifts all over the place and never knows what it wants to be, shifting from lighter comedy to extreme melodrama at the end. I would say it’s a good example of what happens when you try and adapt a script to fit an actor rather than find an actor to fit a script (the original screenplay was a lot darker).
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because he gets shitted on! Man, your wife is a super-hero??? and some dude OBVIOUSLY has the hots for her and had a LOOONG PAST with her? I'd be fucknig super insecure with that..
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can ANYONE tell me major differences between shitty filmwe saw and the script?(Tonight he nutz)
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Michael Richards the Jew. I'd fucking watch that. Everytime he gets close to Will Smith, he starts yelling profanities and shit. Hell, his costume can even include one of those stupid midget hats.
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The films are completely different. There is a drunk, washed up Superhero named Hancock. That is the ONLY similarity. And there is a version of the cut explosive jizz scene. http://tiny.cc/uHI8o
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when Theron put on lots of make up and decided to beat up Will Smith... man, that movie was a pisser disappointment!and it was too childish.. and has the worst DVD cover EVER... man, this movie sucked.
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I want angry drunk superhero!
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I thought it hit way more than missed. If anything they need to move forward because this was just an iconoclastic origin story. No prequels. I could care less about what happened before and Theron's cartoon fight scene in the middle nearly lost me. But I liked most of the film and a sequel wouldn't hurt one bit.
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HANDCOCK : Two In The Pink, One In The Stink.
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But hey, if it keeps Will Smith from ruining the CAPTAIN AMERICA movie, go right ahead.
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Pretty bad actually, also meanders all over the place. Hancock is a tortured drunk asshole, although it’s never made clear why he’s so tortured. He does get a little girls cat out of a tree by killing it with a super-powered pebble fling (that was maybe the only amusing part of the script). Otherwise the characters are one-note, the dialogue cringe worthy, the ending depressing and the whole thing seems largely pointless – I wouldn’t really even say it’s worth reading, but you can find it online.
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I can't believe Peter Berg and Will Smith think this is good material. Hancock was so bad it was depressing that Will Smith wasted his talents on this crap. And Peter Berg needs to stick to Michael Mann-like films, not this waste of time.
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Hancock sucked. It was a piece of crap. We don't want more crap. Let the Hancock "franchise"(and I say that with sarcasm) DIE!
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Your mind just melted, and I'm not kidding about this.
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Aug 19, 2009 1:55:49 PM CDT
Will Smith has NO TALENT. He's perfect for this shit.
by scriptgirl_nipples
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Just, no.
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Aug 19, 2009 2:07:26 PM CDT
Oh I hope Hancock keeps his stylish stocking hat for the sequel
by indycollector
Because, you know, it's stylish and all. Hey, Hancock. Your stocking hat may be stylish but it still functions like a FUCKING STOCKING HAT!!!! In Los Angeles even! Fucking kids and their music.
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Seriously, it was awful.
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Hancock was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The menacing villians are bank robbers and the leader is missing an arm... WTF! Horrible movie make Tonight He Comes that script was sweet!
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In another month we'll be getting "Zardoz 2: Eugenics Boogaloo" and the inevitable "Ishtar" remake set in the ghetto.
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Just asking?
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is the biggest star in the world. "Aww hell nah I'm fightin' aliens" "Aww hell nah I'm a man in black" Aw hell nah I'm the enemy of the state." He fuckin' sucks.
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Peter Berg: "Hancock's mythologgy was shit, but we're looking to create a real shit-storm for the sequel. We sold a lot of tickets, so shit must be what people want, and Hancock 2 is going to deliver twice as much shit as the first one."
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Since the amnesia bit in the first film is straight out of Scientology. Turned the film from "Zeus and Hera are true" into "Scientology is true."
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A superhero-on-the-skids action comedy was a fresh idea with tons of potential, fumbled horribly by the horrible script (what actually made it to the screen). The whole garbage with Charlize Theron's character was just wrong, wrong, wrong. Hancock is maybe THE top example of a completely bungled good idea in the last five to ten years of movies. It might be worthwhile to revisit the premise to correct some of the wretched mistakes of the first, but I'm not at all confident...and I even kinda like Peter Berg.
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Of course they are White Chicks was a huge hit. I hope they make Dance Flick 2!
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Aug 19, 2009 3:38:02 PM CDT
Denzel Washington refuses to have white women as romantic intere
by asimovlives
in his movies. I once heard his reason for that, and i think it's bulslhit. Funny shit, american TV shows like House and Heroes have less problem showing interracial couples making out then Holywood. And the neo-con fundie assholes still complain that Holywood is liberal! Liberal my ass!!!
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You know you want Son of Hancock.
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...the first 3/4 of HANCOCK. The final 1/4 that involved Theron as another Super Hero/Goddess was crap.
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Aug 19, 2009 3:42:49 PM CDT
If they can narrow it down to 43 writers instead of 100...
by venvariants
Boy, talk about the last third of a movie utterly destroying the first two thirds...too many hands in the pot on that one, that's for sure.
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His first movie was pretty good, and i still like it. But that is one actor that should had never given up his day job. You are no Clint Eastwood, pal.
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Freaking A! (ha,ha! brought that out of the box...) I pretty much mindwiped that movie out of my head! Please, no sequel, prequel ever!
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Glad I saved my money. That's some stupid shit.
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If it's good, then sequel on... If it's bad, fuck it, then it's not meant to be. Let's pass a bill right now! ;-)
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Really? Is that what people are clamoring for in a sequel, to learn his this dude's charity program is progressing?
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was die in Smokin Aces.
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I'd watch that
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Hancock was one of the worst major studio films I have ever seen. I wanted to walk out after the first ten minutes, and was only stopped by the $10 I shelled out to see it. Will Smith seemed bored and uncomfortable throughout, the writing was terrible, Bateman's character was a pathetic loser (and his charity campaign idea was beyond retarded). Terrible. I know the first was a huge hit, but I think about half the people who saw it hated it, a quarter were indifferent to it, and the other quarter kinda liked it (at least of the people I know of who saw it). Can't imagine there is a audience for this movie.
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What about Dakota Fanning in 'Man on Fire'? The hottest sex scene EVER!
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But I have to be paid for it. No more freebies!!!
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Aug 19, 2009 4:39:03 PM CDT
Whenever any director talks a films Mythology - garbage ensues
by toadkillerdog
1) Matrix was a truly great movie. Then the W's smoked their own dope and created a 'mythology' around the character. And the two subsequent movies were full of self reverential, faux religious bullshit. 2) Pitch Black was a great flick.Then Twohy built a 'mythology' and religion around Riddick, and CoR sucked zebra shit. Moral of story, take your own shit too seriously and think it don't stink, and you wind up being buried in it. And Hancock was not that good to begin with. It had a few good scenes, but the ending completely fell apart in bad writing, and direction.
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I thought there were TWO fantastic movies within Hancock just itching to get out, the Hancock-the-fuckup story and the mythology angle, though sadly we only got each of them half-baked and crammed together into one. They could do a whole movie on the backstory and I know I'd like it, then a third movie where everything comes together in a huge shitstorm.
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Aug 19, 2009 5:29:50 PM CDT
I was really surprised at how much I liked Hancock.
by wyld stallyns rules
Made me want to learn more about the mythology.
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Aug 19, 2009 5:30:33 PM CDT
The Greatest Thing Peter Berg Ever Did was..............
by ihaveseeneveryepisodeofprisonbreak
Wes Craven's SHOCKER!!!!!
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The man could be playing a kangaroo in a kid's movie and you'd still feel heavy presence of racial overtones.
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I always thought this was what happened to meteor man after it tanked, he became a bum.
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If only because it completely failed at what it attempted to achieve. UNless it's aim was to be a tonal rubbish tip that has no sense of pace.
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Aug 19, 2009 6:10:30 PM CDT
The "god" shit is what ruined the movie in the first place
by mr_beaks_is_a_faggot
it was like, why the fuck did you need to do that?! if the superhero going to jail and getting some good PR is kinda charming and kinda funny.
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A sequel? This is a good idea??? Seriously, this is so stupid. This movie was one of those that I HAD to walk out on. Sequel??? Get real
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Ken Jennings from Jeopardy turns out to be the perfect guinea pig for an alien uniform. When he puts it on, he becomes dumb and can't fly or nothing. HUH? I like that!
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was Very Bad Things. This is not debatable. Hancock was a mess. Charming front story, but the whole god and goddess thing was completely mishandled. Maybe there were too many rewrites. Will Smith usually has excellent instincts about what movie to do, but this time he fell on his face, ruining that big grin of his.
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I Have A Much Better Idea. But I have to be paid for it. No more freebies!!! -- Media MessiahVintage Media Messiah. The difference between someone who WANTS to write and the ones who have worked their asses off to master their craft and get places, is that they would write for free--cause they love it, but most importantly, to get their FOOT IN THE DOOR. I hate to break it to you, MM, but posting your ideas here like they will be used is not getting a foot in the door. Don't get me wrong, a writer can make good money on their first project, but its a matter of doing ANY and EVERYTHING to get a chance. You are such a joke because you think that these talkbacks are a chance for you. Also, EVERYONE has ideas, EVERYONE have opinions on how to make something better, but that doesn't make them writers and it doesn't make you a writer. I've read countless opinions about how to make things better from you, but you are blind to the fact that YOU ARE YOUR ONLY FAN. A few of your ideas are decent, I'll give you that, but you are not special. Not all your ideas are gold like you believe they are. SERIOUSLY, GET YOUR ASS OFF THESE TALKBACKS AND WORK ON AN ***ORIGINAL*** PROJECT. You CANNOT call yourself a writer for your efforts on these talkbacks. You CAN call yourself a writer if you get a project made, even if you don't make a penny for it. Hell, if you went to college for creative writing (which you have told me is worthless) I would call you a writer. I swear MM, you are mentally ill and after the inevitable span of months where I notice you are MIA, I would bet that your illness finally got to you and cost you your life, long before I would believe you actually got yourself together and focused your energy on something ORIGINAL and realized these talkbacks and all the time you spend on them won't do a damn thing for you as a writer--which you are not. To call yourself a writer is an absolute insult to every hard working writer on this planet period.
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Smith and Jada walked past me at the BET awards months back--she is tiny and somehow really scary, like a piranha with boobs. He says she's a Superfreak in bed. The mind boggles, just a bit,to picture THAT action.
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Did anyone else read the original script that eventually became Hancock? Its one of the best screenplays I've ever read... Anyone agree?
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I gotta be more thorough reading these talkbacks...
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They just kept telling us new rules, which were completely arbitrary. Worse than arbitrary actually, they don't even make sense. She remembers how brave he was for all the times he saved her. But the "we weaken each other" rule means that any time he actually wanted to protect her, he would just have to fly away. That is fucking gay,
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Because the Kingdom was a horrendous dog pile of shit. I really like him as an actor though.
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Hancock sucked cock.
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I can't tell you much, if anything, about Peter Bergh movies, but let me tell you--the guy is great with TV. Speaking as someone who is schizophrenic (and recognizes Media Messiah is textbook), Peter Berg created one of the most compelling, raw and intense shows ever seen on TV--WONDERLAND. Its about a psych ward in new york. I know this is quite a big statement, but the ONLY thing that rival's wonderland across the board is the wire. These two shows are in a complete class of their own. NOTHING compares. Also, Friday Night Lights is one of the most underappreciated shows on TV. You would be hard pressed to find a show with an ensemble of better acting performances from all the characters, plus, fantastic storylines.
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Will Smith is good when he doesn't play that same damned character. Never thought I'd say it, but he should stick to drama, he's better at it.
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and swingers, I think that´s hot. And how they keep the romance alive. I saw her once in an Urban Outfitters when she was all metal and shit and had her crappy band. She´s tiny, before this whole Hawthorne MD shit, when she was all matrix and kewl. I think she´s way cooler than Will Smith.
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but that was one of the gayest posts I've ever read. Go ahead, you can call me an asshole.
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Aug 19, 2009 11:53:34 PM CDT
Peter Berg Discusses A HANCOCK Sequel!!
by elvispresleehorsleyharveyoswaldoprahwinf
And I discuss the finer merits of my taint!!!!!!!! (so many exclamation points, it must mean i care)
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"Are you ready to here what the fuss is all about, Uma Thurman took a dump On Quentin's chest!!!"
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People would probably take this site alittle more seriously if it weren't for those fucking (!) at the end of every headline. Instead it's a fucking pissing ground.
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(It's from 'South Park').
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I won't waste another dollar on the "franchise"!
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Anybody on this Talkback could have written a better movie. "Tonight, He Comes" is the original name of "Hancock" and was considered to be the greatest unproduced scrpt n Hollywood until Will Smith destroyed it by adding his script ideas, as he does with every script he gets his non writing hands on. Do I think I can best him? Yes...and so can you for that matter, so stop complaining about me. BTW...I do have great idea. It wasn't created for Hancock, but it is honestly better than what Smith and Berg are contemplating, and by leaps and bounds.
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Anybody on this Talkback could have written a better movie. "Tonight, He Comes" is the original name of "Hancock", and was considered to be the greatest unproduced script in Hollywood, that is, until Will Smith destroyed it by adding his script ideas, as he does with every script he gets his non-writing hands on. Do I think I can best him? Yes...and so can you, for that matter, so stop complaining about me. BTW...I do have a great idea. It wasn't created for Hancock, but it is honestly better than what Smith and Berg are contemplating, and--by leaps, and bounds.
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And tacked on, and nonsensical. No sequel.
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The notion of a fuckup superhero was inspired, but (of course) they couldn't leave well enough alone and started taking the idea "seriously".
WTF is the point of a sequel to just another superhero movie about a "hero" that doesn't even have a cultural grounding, like Batman, Supes, etc? -
That's what I thought they were hinting at. Everyone who wants to rule the world sees themselves as a good person. Plus by making him evil you open the plot up for Hancock and Mary to hook up.
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MM- just because you like tinkering with others ideas does not even come close to making you a writer. Its not all about big ideas, its about dialogue, pacing, characterization, etc etc etc. You mess with ideas. that does not make you a writer.
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They didn't say "sign here douche bag", of course that might more accurately describe the movie...
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You have never read one of my scripts to judge either way. As for "Hancock"'s sequel, I would not want to write it, or attempt to, but I would write a nice outline for Berg to play with. Why wouldn't I want to write a script in total? I'm lazy. If you write a script, and you do it right, it takes 3 months to write it, and another 3 months to fix, and edit it--I just wouldn't want to spend the time to do it--but my idea, and high concept, therein, is impressive.
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A script written and edited in 6 months??? Only a seasoned veteran could get that done, well. Howabout you post a short excerpt so we can read just a tiny bit of something so I know if you're legit. If you're good I'll be the first one to give you credit and I would be more than willing to change my opinions of you and stop talking to you the way I have for some time now. Don't give me the dumb reason how you don't want something stolen--there are PLENTY of excerpts in ANY book, movie, tv episode, that don't reveal a damn thing about the overall idea. Step up and show me you're a writer, and not someone who just dreams of being a writer.
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Oh you like Comics and Superheros? Here is some shit for you spend $ on. Thanks for your $10 now go fuck yourself.
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