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The modern remake of OUTLAND, the sci-fi remake of High Noon, is on the docket...
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I know, hahaha, lolz... a remake of a remake. It's not the first time. Recently we saw a pretty damn good remake of John Carpenter's ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13, which he's gone on record as saying is essentially his re-imagining of RIO BRAVO.
I'm not super connected to OUTLAND, to be honest. I haven't watched the movie since I was a kid and I remember very little of it. It's about time for a revisit. So, I have no idea what to think about SHOOT 'EM UP's Michael Davis attempting a redo of the sci-fi remake of High Noon other than there's a mighty big kilt to fill. I have to imagine they've talked about Clive Owen stepping in for the Sean Connery role, which wouldn't be bad. There's just not too many actors that mix the charm and toughness that Connery has.
If they reaaaaaallllyyy wanted to impress me, they'd just pull Connery out of retirement and make this his sci-fi Gran Torino.
Now let's take bets on how long until we see news of a remake of BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS, the sci-fi remake of the western remake of SEVEN SAMURAI. That'd be fourth generation!
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And Inglorious Basterds too!!!
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for the lead villain.
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and yeah it's pretty awesome. the space wire work is a bit cheesy but connery is a badass in it. Great space western.
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Remake Enemy Mine, Starman, The Last Starfighter, The flight of the navigator, Explorers. Come on Hollywood, get on the fucking ball. You're behind on your remake fucking quota.
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Outland is a great film - take another look folks.
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Josh Hartnett or Ashton Kutcher for the Connery role, and Liev Shrieber for the Young Frankenstein role. The cranky old doctor will be Allison Janney instead of Frances Sternhagen (who was awesome).
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He can't go out on LXG. I'd like to see someone offer him something unusual, something challenging that would make him reconsider his retirement.That being said, OUTLAND is a really good film; one that is often forgotten.
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Let's re-imagine a movie that was re-imagined from another to begin with. Creative bankruptcy has official reached a brand-new level.
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Words just fucking fail me!!! Will someone in fucking cock smoking Hollywood have a fucking original thought in order to prevent my original fucking thought which is to forcefeed powered up hand blenders to anyone thinks of doing fucking remakes!!!!! It's this kind of thing that made me think The Player was shite because it's im-fucking-posible to satirise Hollywood. It's beyond parody!!!
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Why can't we just get the decent DVD of Outland it's always deserved. Connery and Peter Boyle are great in it.
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. . . about remakes of Dirty Dancing and Brewster's Millions. In addition to this. Amen, Gabbba-UK, Amen . . .
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Aug 19, 2009 10:40:10 AM CDT
Connery is fucking retired. And dead in Indy 4 :(
by cheyne_stoking_dms
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Aug 19, 2009 10:43:49 AM CDT
dude, connery is so old he's wheelchair bound and got the shakes
by idrinkyourmilkshake
The reason Clint looks so badass-is he's not fallnig apart yet-and he must take damn good care of himself(that AND genetics).I'd MUCH rather see CLINT do something badass
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I remember it fondly. Not only did Hyams pretty successfully mimic the gritty outer-space vibe of "Alien" with his junked-up and cluttered interiors, but it was an enteraining flick that I still watch occasionally and it got me, as a child of 10, interested in a piece of cinematic history, "High Noon." A classic win-win for entertainment and education.
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really? this has to be remade?
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Are they just willing Swayze into an early grave? I freely admit to have a soft spot for DD. A remake that has 'nobody puts Baby in a corner' being said by someone other than Patrick to someone who isn't Jennifer Grey? Fuck that shit!!!
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I saw it like a year ago. It was ok, nothing in dire need of remaking. How about remaking Peter Yates career instead.
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I saw that before I knew what High Noon was, and I was pretty damned impressed. Granted I haven't seen it in well over twenty years but I'm pretty sure it can still stand up.
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Wasn't "The invasion" (Oliver Hirschbiegel, 2007) a fourth generation remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (Don Siegel, 1956)?
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my favorite aspect of Outland was the relationship between Connery and the doctor played by veteran actress Frances Steenbergen. Now, I'm sure a remake will feature a younger actress and act as a love interest.
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Peter Hyams is underrated.
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It's pacing is kind of slow by modern standards, even for its time. But it is an excellent film with fantastic performances. Does it need to be remade? Probably not. Will I be there front and center on release day? Fucking A!
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I always liked the setting and general feel of Outland, but something about the story was just TOO basic. It was a great setup, but the story itself just left me wishing there was more to it.
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Aug 19, 2009 11:24:10 AM CDT
If it HAS to be remade, please not by the "Shoot"EmUp" hack!
by the_genteel_gentile
I don't throw the term "hack" around alot, but Shoot 'Em Up was horrendous. Running Scared (Wayne Kramer) is everything Shoot 'em Up and Crank wish they were (fact). Better director choices would be thus: 01. Duncan Jones (Moon) 02. Danny Boyle (Sunshine) 03. Mark Romanek (One Hour Photo) 04. Kathryn Bigelow (Strange Days) 05. Stephen Norrington (Blade)
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...you wouldn't know a good movie if it walked up to you and slapped you in the face.
There is a big difference between a bad movie and a movie you don't care for. I wish that most of the people that post on this site understood that. -
That would actually be interesting.
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He got better record with 'adapting'/remaking existing properties.
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Heads don't explode in a a vacuum, and greenhouses aren't green lit
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No it fucking isn't.
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1) Head's & bodies don't explode in the vacuum of space.
2) If you're a Federal law enforcement officer trying to stop a drug ring, you don't flush the evidence you need to prove this is happening down the toilet.
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A point that Pauline Kael rightly brings up, that in keeping with the High Noon plotline, "It's insane that the miners refuse to help Connery--that they don't mind being exploited, going crazy, and destroying themselves." And why does Connery go to all these elaborate steps to kill the hitmen, when he knows exactly when the shuttle arrives (its been counting down onscreen forever). Just sit back and fire on them when they seperate themselves from the other passengers, which is exactly what they do, but Connery views it on a security camera instead. Oh, and the moony faced kid actor that plays his son.."I wuv you daddy.."..yuck.But as I said before, the photograghy, set design, and acting are all good.
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Aug 19, 2009 12:07:19 PM CDT
Who gives a shit if heads explode in outer space
by the_ad_wizard_who_came_up_with_this_one
If you want to get into the physics of the thing pretty much erverything falls apart, exploding heads being the smallest flaw. But who gives a shit? The only problem about Outland is that the pacing is a little grating at times. But the atmosphere makes up for that in spades. The scenes with the Marshall and the Doctor are just pure gold. Today's Sci-Fi shit dreams of reaching a fraction of that mood.
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A remake of Fistful of Dollars which was a remake of Yojimbo.
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a sci-fi background, and since it is basically High Noon in space, why not James Mangold? I think his 3:10 To Yuma remake was well done, and he can definately handle actors.
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Because it sure seems like they made a list of movies Moon referenced and grabbed the one they could get the rights to. When was the last time you heard anyone talking about Outland?
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is a refitting of Three Amigos, which is a rejiggering of The Magnificent Seven, which was a remake of The Seven Samaurai.
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You are calling the whole film 'meh' because two people's heads expand and explode in space? That used to be a common misconception (along with 'your blood boils!' .... and yes, you're right, that doesn't happen but honestly, so what? The film was a terrific realization of a security marshall in space facing a difficult situation where a corporation looks the other why while its miners' take drugs (and eventually begin profiting from their sale). Peter Boyles was un-fucking-believably brilliant in this film. Sean Connery was solid as always...the only part that felt tacked on was the struggles with his wife. This was simply one of the smartest, coolest films of its era but due to its slower pace and extremely graphic brutal moments, didn't totally sync with audiences. But to call it 'meh' because it didn't portray space science correctly is kind of a miss - the only film to every portray what happens to the body correctly is Sunshine. And that film (while genius in some ways) was also a miss for a lot of folks.
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"It's High Noon in space." Of course, todays audience doesn't know from High Noon, so I guess it would be, "It's Outland in space, but spacier."
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I can't BELIEVE that woman is still alive, when she already looks about 70 in the original film thirty years ago. Seeing her in The Mist recently, I was like, "She's still ALIVE?!"
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ok i want to shit all over this being remade, but your idea of jones or boyle directing it would make me want to see it. studios arent that smart though. will probably end up in rats hands or mcg.
jones/boyle won't do this remake, so i couldnt care about it.
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I am fairly sure he is at least in early stages, which is why he had such a total withdrawl, kind of like what they did with Reagan. Which is why he wasn't budged by the millions for a day's work offer for Indy 4...
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I'd watch that.
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And that'sh a Marshall joke...
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HUH? When was there a first time? Outland is not by any stretch a good movie. Most of Peter Hyams (sorry I said Yates earlier) moives recently have not been that good. Relic was good, Stay Tuned was good as well. Outland was not good, it was just boring. It wasn't that I didn't care for it, it was not very good, especially since I had seen Silent Running for the first time right around the same time I saw Outland. Silent Running is a good movie, Outland sucks because there is not much to it.
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Go check it out if you haven't seen it. Good stuff.
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It's somewhat forgotten, and most of the team that did the fx work also worked on "Alien", so that's why the look of "Outland" is so captivating.Now, I will say I am sick and tired of the lame ideas coming out of Big-Screen Big-Budget Hollywood Studios. Look at "District 9", a very good movie made by folks from the Southern Hemisphere. Danny Boyle, a Brit, sweeps the Oscars with his film set in India. A 95% Brit, Irish and Aussie cast and crew make "Batman Begins" and "Dark Night." Hollywood people...You have way too many financial planners, salesmen, members of a particular religion that believe in Xenu, and (frankly) gay men with WAY TOO MUCH say in what you are making. Financial planners and salesmen want remakes, and Judd Apatow (or Apatow clone) comedies. The gay men end up giving the world straight women and closeted gay men, or men who just look too young for the roles, co-starring in your romantic comedies and your prestige "Oscar-Bait" movies. Members of that particular religion who worry about Xenu are turning potentially interesting tent-pole films into lame propaganda pieces for their church.I'll say it, Hollywood you still need MORE DIVERSITY!!!!
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coming out this fall. Hyams' resume is pretty spotty, End Of Days, anyone? But ya gotta love the conspiracy cheese of Capricorn One. Billy Crystal and the late, great Gregory Hines in Running Scared. He tried so hard in 2010 to hit a homer, but ended up more like a double. I liked his overlooked vigilante thriller The Star Chamber. The guy has had an amazingly long career.
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What's that, pure conjecture? Where did you read that? Can't a person just retire?
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Best line in it. Connery was, is, could still be a very, very good craftsman. Check out The Hill and The Offence.
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It was like a chocolate bunny except it had a melted face and ears.
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Maybe get a younger actor to star in the role. Perhaps one of those hot female scientists as my love interest. I'd watch that.
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Seriously, think about it! Clint Eastwood could play the OLD fixing to RETIRE, dinosaur of a Marshall or Sheriff or whatever, old man against all odds, in an every changing world, trying to make one last stand on principle, going out in a blaze of glory! TRUE GRIT!!!
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The role of O'Neil is that of a corporate policeman, he's not meant to be anything more than a means to keep people in line when they are off their mining shirt. I'd favour someone a bit more stocky like Josh Brolin or Russell Crowe for the part over Clive Owen tbh.
Also agreed that what made Outland was the world weary relationship between O'Neil & Lazarus. Hopefully they'll maintain that and avoid any love story aspect.
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Outland for remake too?? This is getting out of hand. Anybody who needs a new "modern" update on Outland because they find the movie "too old" are fools and dumb. There, i said it, deal with it.
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and I want some chicken.
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Actaully, Sunshine fucks up in the science department when they have that character instant frezzing in the vaccum of space. That never haoppens, evne in the shade and if the local temperature is -200 celcius. It never happens, it doesn't work that way, and yet, the movie fucked up that.The only movie so far that has an accurate depiction of space is still 2001. Nothing ever beated that 1968 movie as yet.
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would work only if you got Jessica Simpson to pay the part Sybil Danning originally played.
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but it's mediocre. Good leads, but the story is nonsense. Let the assassins loose rather than search everyone on the shuttle once it arrives? Flush the drugs? An assassin inside a space greenhouse shoots out a pane of glass because he's surprised to see his target outside? The film is lightweight fun but weak. It might actually be improved by a remake.
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Did you see that steamin' turd called " A Distant Thunder"
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my men are shit!
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It made me never want to go into space without my helmet, and it made me want to avoid a career in space mining alltogether. Outland was quite decent – a very solid performance from a post Bond Connery. Of course, if I was in that position, I might just fire a missile as the shuttle as it was on its approach and claim it was an accident. Sure, there would be a little collateral damage, but it sure would have saved a lot of time and been a Hell of a lot safer.
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How ironic. I watched that stinker just a week ago. I should have known by Ben Kingsley's wig how bad it would be. Oh I know Hyams good to bad ratio is high on the bad side.And wasn't Battle Beyond The Stars a John Sayles scripted Magnificent Seven in space already? It even featured Robert Vaughn in a role similar to Seven.
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Don't talk arse. Jessica Simpson? Pah! Google Keeley Hazell, an English pin-up.Now THAT'S Saint Exmin!
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.. was Pluto Nash. Outland is all about the zero-g gunfights. Get that right and you've got yourself a pretty sweet high-concept western remake-remake.
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Aug 19, 2009 5:33:03 PM CDT
No-one's going to be hiring Owen as an action lead again
by maxcalifornia.
You saw the box office takings of Shoot em up, Duplicity, and The International, right?
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in a double bill with Blade Runner. And, boy, did Outland look mediocre by comparison.
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Comic adaptation IS MASTERFUL.
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Not his fault.
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say "...thats a marshal joke." like Connery can. another pointless remake. You know, there's a lot of sci fi stories out there, and some of them dont suck. why not sift thru a few, hollywood?
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Motherfuckers. One of Connery's few good non-Bond flicks. For as charming as the prick was/is, he squandered it on a string of lousy movies.
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The lead-in to this article is to laud the remake of Assault on Precinct 13? Please, please tell me that was some truly subtle sarcasm.
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....a bit creaky in places but I still love it, and I always have to watch it all the way through if I catch it on tv. I remember some piece in Cinefantastique at the time saying Hyams specifically stated early on to the crew that "this film has to look like Alien". And any film where Lester Freamon from The Wire turns out to be a bad guy can't be all bad.
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I'm pretty sure a movie with Jim Caviezel came out this year with the same name. I assumed that was a remake. Am I wrong?
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The prod company ran out of money and couldn't pay for the effects, not his fault. Hyams is hit or miss. I still LOVE the paranoia of Capricorn One (just read a great article about how it got made/funded by ITC) I just saw 2010 again on cable last night, which I really like. Some of his other stuff is better than average (Running Scared, Presidio, Star Chamber) other stuff is nothing special (Timecop, The Relic, End of Days). Some is just plain bad (Sudden Death). James Cameron personally recommended him to Schwarzenegger for End of Days, btw.
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I can not see the director of Shoot em up improving on that great flick.
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The original had great texture but it was weak in plot and action.
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... which I thought was quite good as well. Either way, a remake of Outland isn't needed.
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Connery good. Boyle awesome. Space druggies awesome. Killing space druggies awesome. Showdowns in space awesome. Pacing and effects in the original drag the movie down. Perfect movie to be remade
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Not calling you out whoever you are. I think most here know the difference between a bad movie and a movie that they don't care for. The most fun you can get out of this site isn't the news, it's the talkbacks. It's a god given right to trash the fuck out of what we don't like. It's freedom, my friend, you gotta cherish it. Cherish it.
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Sure, the science breaks down in a couple of places, but who cares? The atmosphere of the film and the performances more than make up for it.
As for the DVD, it's only the U.S. disc that suffers from that ghastly interlacing problem (worst disc I've ever seen). I have both the R1 and R2 discs and can verify that the R2 PAL disc does NOT have this problem. That having been said, it's still a vanilla release with no cleanup done whatsoever, which is a crime considering how awesome the set designs are in Outland.
Remake? Terrible idea. Put out a decent DVD of the original and then make NEW SHIT.
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...when it came to Outland. Why do the miners not help the law and continue to allow themselves to be exploited by the mining company? Because the mining company was supplying them with DRUGS. Fucking duh.
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Then it would be original.
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Shit. The Richard Pryor one was a remake as well. Now they are so desperate for ideas they have to hit the well a third time?
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...of Assault on Precinct 13? Fuck right off with that comment.
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The original isn't very good.
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Not Outland. I refuse!
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3ib9d44f33bad88c08d813b2de159e6622
"The new take expands the concept, making it tentpole-sized, while keeping the original's theme. The story takes place in an orbiting city around the moon, where a cop uncovers a murderous conspiracy endangering the entire city. With a week before his retirement back to Earth, our hero has to choose between walking away with his wife, or taking on a private army with his overachieving ex-partner and wife's former boyfriend."
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I mean, can you think of less exciting news? I have a VHS of Outland gathering dust. I love Connery, but have no desire to watch it, remember nothing special about the movie. Take the money and do an ORIGINAL idea!!!
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Still like to watch it. Connery owns that movie. Plus nice visuals.
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I've always wondered ... did David Keith's Russian scientist actually speak Russian or was he completely faking it?
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No, I don't call it "Meh" simply because heads don't explode in space. I call it "Meh" because it has so many plot holes in it it's not even worth discussing how flawed the story was. I already mentioned flushing the drugs down the toilet. We already had someone else mention the point about the assassins couldn't be stopped or shot after they got off the shuttle. Then you got the murder of of James B. Siking's deputy character after which Connery doesn't bother to investigate anyone. Maybe if he would have, then he might have suspected his other African-American deputy, but then that would ruin the surprise climax at the end. I like several of Hyams work, 2010, Capricorn One, Timecop and a few others. I'm even going to see "Beyond a Reasonable Doubt" this weekend at an early screening. He's a capable director and having talent like Connery & Peter Boyle does make the film better, but IMHO, having the 2 of them in it takes a crappy film with a lot of plot holes and turns it "meh", instead of just utter crap.
Or maybe I'm just friggin jaded that every other day we hear about another remake of another film or TV show. I wish the all of the film guilds would jack up their fees on the residual payments to the original creators so that Hollywood studios would do this less often. I won't say there isn't original material being produced, but there are too many fucking remakes being made. -
Outland -- The Teen Years
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Interesting -- Still one of my favorites at the time it was most advanced , not just in its filming but also its content - life on a outer moon mining colony- the entire cast was top notch - Just goes to show you how New Hollywood has either run out of new ideas or is being squeezed to only offer very limited subjects - also how kinda dumb the audience is - they want more screen wow/pop/shine - dont think much anymore - I say the original is pretty Golden - a remake will look to be more ID4 summer blockbuster instead of smart : cheers:
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