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Writer of ZODIAC And SPIDER-MAN 4 Hired To Pen SPIDER-MAN 5 And SPIDER-MAN 6!!

I am – Hercules!!
Break out that Who’s Who In The Marvel Universe; Spidey’s going to need more villains. James Vanderbilt, screenwriter of “Darkness Falls,” “Basic,” “The Rundown” and the first draft of “Spider-Man 4,” is already on board to script “Spider-Man 5” and “Spider-Man 6,” even if Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst aren’t signed to “5” and “6.” Vanderbilt’s draft of “4” has already been rewritten by David Lindsay-Abaire (“Robots,” “Inkheart”) and Gary Ross (“Big,” “Dave,” “Seabiscuit”), but I reckon Columbia liked something about that early draft. Plus? “Zodiac” rocked. I do wish Columbia could work something out with Paramount, Fox and Universal so all the Marvel characters would cross over into each other’s movies. (Impossible, you say? Well, Universal controls Hulk and Paramount controls Iron Man, so I don’t know anything’s impossible as long as there’s a buck to be made!) Find all of Variety’s story about the “Spidey” scripting here.
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  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:08 a.m. CST

    Whatabout

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Spider-man 7 and 8?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:09 a.m. CST

    UHH THE AVENGERS????

    by damiz707

    THEY ALL BETTER WORK SOMETHING OUT. THATS MONEY IN THE BANK.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST

    After Spider-Man 3.... will anyone care?

    by ISleptWithKathyBatesAndAllThatIGotWasThisStupidTalkbackName

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST

    MARVEL VS CAPCOM

    by damiz707

    THE MOVIE. HAHAHAHA.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST

    the difference with hulk and iron man....

    by Bouncy X

    is that while they may be produced by different studios, Marvel still owns those characters and the rights to em. that probably made it easier to rangle a deal with them and the other crossover movies they're making. but all the other superheroes rights are owned by the movie studios so i think it would take a lot for them to consider doing crossovers. but if the iron man/hulk/avengers stuff does really well (and i'm sure it will) then maybe the studios will be more willing.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:11 a.m. CST

    “The Rundown”

    by fiester

    Very underrated and enjoyable little action flick.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:12 a.m. CST

    MARVEL VS CAPCOM

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Shitta lebouf the play Mega-Man!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST

    the Rundown wasn't bad

    by SirBiatchReturns

    and Spiderman 2 was a lame film. I think more people are seeing the light now. Two years ago, I would have been crucified for saying such 'blasphemy'. But we know it to be true. I'm not even the greatest fan of TDK, but it's fair to say that TDK & Iron Man expose how flawed Spidey 2-3 were. I honestly don't care anymore about Spidey. I liked the first one, hated the second and was bored by the third. They'd have to bring out a villain worth pursuing, and maybe change Maguire for someone else.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:16 a.m. CST

    Think of it like the old studio system.

    by Hercules

    Sony says to Paramount, "Lend us Tony Stark and Nick Fury for one movie and we'll loan you Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson for another." Universal says to Fox, "Loan us Charles Xavier and Reed Richards and you can use Bruce Banner and Thunderbolt Ross." <p>You may call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Marvel Studios produces and controls the Iron Man and Hulk films

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Not Paramount, not Universal. They are the distributors.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:25 a.m. CST

    I thought Tobey Magure was almost in Iron Man

    by lockesbrokenleg

    He was supposed to be one of the reporters interviewing Stark. How about brining in FF in Stark's world?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Blade IV

    by Axl Z

    With Snipes back, come-on already... Show Twilight what a real vampire film is!! prep can be done while Snipes is doing time.. Its easy money guys!!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Forget me if I'm wrong Herc but didn't Mary Jane die in the last

    by RedJester

    Forget me if I'm wrong Herc but didn't Mary Jane die in the last one??? So unless they are keeping Dunst around for flashbacks and possibly dream sequences, why would they bother signing her to another 1 (or 3)?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:31 a.m. CST

    SPIDER-MAN 3 KILLED MY INTEREST IN THIS SERIES.....

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Spider-man 1 = Very Good, Spider-man 2 = Masterpiece, Spider-man 3 = Complete and utter fucking failure on every level.<br> <br>Spider-man 3 should have and could have been The Dark Knight of that series but, instead, Raimi decided run everything right into the fucking shitter. I couldn’t fucking care less about seeing any more Spider-man movies from Raimi and I wish that the studio would just let the series rest for a few years and do a reboot ala The Incredible Hulk.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Universal doesn't have the rights to Hulk.

    by Rev. Slappy

    Marvel has the rights to Hulk as the reverted back to them. However, Universal retains distribution rights. The second Hulk film was produced by Marvel, distributed by Universal.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Wierd, my bad...

    by RedJester

    How do you know a movie blew? When you inadvertently create an alternate ending to a movie that happens to be better than the real ending and then convince yourself your made up ending is the one that actually occurred. <p> Btw, If the above sentence makes no sense it's because I'm really really stoned. My apologies.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Wierd, my bad...

    by RedJester

    How do you know a movie blew? When you inadvertently create an alternate ending to a movie that happens to be better than the real ending and then convince yourself your made up ending is the one that actually occurred. <p> Btw, If the above sentence makes no sense it's because I'm really really stoned. My apologies.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Just what we need

    by The Mothman

    Five more hours of weightless CGI. Almost makes me wish for something like Hollow Man, when they were at least doing something different with the technology. Some sort of tidal wave needs to happen here, the defining aspects of this decade's popular films need to get swept away, and fast. Of course, that won't happen...unless the morons who keep paying to see these things get swept away also.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:42 a.m. CST

    ...

    by RedJester

    Double posts are awesome!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST

    You will see no crossovers between Marvel Studios' independent p

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    The great Marvel Movie Universe experiment is for the characters Marvel itself retains only. You might have seen a project like Avengers by now if Hollywood had ever been able to wrap its head around ideas that were novel when Stan Lee was using them almost 50 years ago. Building a brand that's steeped in crossovers and shared universe stuff MAKES MARKETING EASIER.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST

    HERC, sorry buddy, you are SO wrong about who controls what . .

    by Lazerman21

    IRONMAN is controlled by MARVEL, and has a Distribution arrangement with paramount, while UNIVERSAL gave back the rights to HULK after their movie flopped, allowing Marvell to take control and make THE INCREDIBLE HULK, with Universal Distributing .. HENCE why Tony Stark could be in THE INCREDIBLE HULK.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Replace Kirsten Dunst

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Nothing against here...but I simply never bought here as Mary Jane. Look at the comic Mary Jane...then look at her.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:49 a.m. CST

    reboot reboot reboot

    by TheButcher

    I hope Sony does reboot this franchise after part 4.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Spider-Man was fucked from the first movie

    by Continentalop

    When they did a butchering on the Death of Gwen Stacy. Probably the greatest Spider-Man story ever and it will never be adapted to a movie. <P> Part 3 was just the natural conclusion of that colossal fuck up.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Zzzardozzz and Rev Slappy are right...

    by Big Dumb Ape

    ...That's why you got to see IRON MAN Robert Downey (Paramount movie) appearing at the end of HULK (Universal movie).<p>And to RedHorseVector, the reason you'd be a movie exec willing to pay four separate star salaries IS because you could have a mammoth hit on your hands FROM putting so much star power together, much like the OCEAN 11 films did rake in some seriously nice coin (star salaries aside) for Warner Bros, once domestic and international box office was tallied up. Besides, at this point in time, I think it's pretty obvious Marvel has absolutely NO intention of giving up on their master plan to build all of these films into at least one AVENGERS movie. They're going for the gold ring on this one. And in the end, while the AVENGERS movie may or may not be good, it will certainly be every comic fan's wet dream to see it finally come to life and to have seen it built up this way.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:56 a.m. CST

    GibsonUSA Returns

    by Continentalop

    Don't ever look at the comic book MJ. Even worse than Peter marrying her in the 80s was turning her from a hot ex-go go dancer and failed actress into a super, ungodly hot super-model. WTF? Talk about destroy Peter Parker's Everyman quality. <P> If i was a supervillain I would try to kill him just for bitching about his life while he gets to go home and fuck someone as hot as Marissa Miller. <P> "Yeah, your fucking life is tough web-head. Have you met my wife, Mrs. Octopus? She friggin' 300lbs and has boobs that hang past her God damn knees. No wonder I was trying to score with your Aunt, she was a fuckin' improvement over that hag."

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Also, this sounds like kind of a "fuck you" to Raimi

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Sony's made their intentions clear: if the current creative team don't want to come back for more sequels, they're eager to flush everything they do in this fourth movie down the drain and recast so the series can continue. Spider-Man is not James Bond.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2 a.m. CST

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE REBOOT!!!

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Tobey is the most wooden actor EVER! And he's like 40 years old! Dunst was always horribly miscast as MJ. Even Lindsey Lohan would've been a better "Face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot!" MJ. And Raimi never really tranlated and self-imploded with the diseased afterbirth of SPIDER-MAN 3. To think that there may be not one but TWO more SM movies from this same exhausted gang just really, really sux. This franchise needs fresh blood stat.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Spider-Man 2 was fantastic. Spider-Man 3 was a turd.

    by Se7en

    IMHO Spider-Man 2 still one of the best comic book films out there. A different kind of comic book film than 'The Dark Knight', but great nonetheless. Not like most (if not all ?) people I'm not letting the utter crapola that was Spider-Man 3 ruin 'Spider-Man 2'.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Spider-Man 1 totally fucked up Spider-Man 3

    by Big Dumb Ape

    As a lifelong Spidey fan, when they got to the conclusion of the first film and they staged the whole bridge scene with Mary Jane and the Green Goblin, I thought to myself "Wow, this is lame. They're lifting the Gwen story, but obviously Mary Jane is going to live here. So why are they wasting it?"<p>But then when the movie was over and was SUCH a box office hit, I tried to give them some credit by thinking "Oh, I get it! They're thinking ahead! They're thinking trilogy. They'll push things a bit with the next 2 films and go darker, to really get into the character and make you REALLY feel for him. So they'll introduce Gwen in Part 3 and redo the bridge scene ala Part 1 -- only this time the girl will fall and her neck WILL snap like in the comics. Nice going, Marvel! You're setting things up, so it all comes full circle dramatically."<p>Of course, then we got SPIDER-MAN 3 which was truly shitty in so many ways, not the least of which was the handling of Gwen. Talk about a TOTALLY botched story arc and what SHOULD have been the biggest and best and most emotional Spider-Man movie ever.<p>I swear, if the fourth film is anywhere near as shitty as the third one was, which so many people walked out of shaking their heads, no one will care AT ALL about a fifth or sixth.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Yeah, we really need a reboot here.

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Let's trade a director who really cares about the character and knows the comics for whichever random guy Sony can grab to expedite the process of throwing shit at the wall until you have product that more or less resembles a summer tentpole. Brett Ratner's not busy.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:14 a.m. CST

    T Big Dumb Ape RE: Gwen Stacy

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    It seemed to me like Raimi had little interest in Stacy and that the bridge scene in the first film was a throwaway nod to that character's existence. Her appearance in Spider-Man 3 felt like a producer-mandated attempt to bring in a new "girlfriend" actress to push out a potentially problematic one. See also: Lana Lang in Superman 3.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:20 a.m. CST

    SPIDERMAN 2 was just AVERAGE let's get real

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Anyone calling SPIDERMAN 2 "fantastic" or "masterpiece" needs to watch TDK, IRON MAN, SUPERMAN, THE INCREDIBLES, hell even X-MEN 2 again. I would rate ALL of those movies above SPIDERMAN 2. I remember thinking SPIDERMAN 2 was good at the time but the Jesus Christ Pose in the subway train bugs the fuck out of me now. And since that movie came out, TDK and IRON MAN have taken the superhero genre to a higher level.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Nightmare scenario for Spider-Man 4

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Raimi has publicly mentioned Morbius as a potential villain and Dylan Baker is ready to go as the Lizard. They're obviously aware of prior stories involving those two characters and it's easy to imagine the resulting film: a super-hero horror movie where Spider-Man fights Dracula (Morbius) with the help of a sympathetic Wolfman (Lizard.) What's worrying is a comment Raimi made, and I don't have the exact quote, about the "seductive" nature of vampires. The possibility percolates that they could try to make Morbius a sexy Anne Rice/Twilight vampire who uses his magic powers to seduce Mary Jane as a kind of mirror to the theme of infidelity in Spider-Man 3. There's a lot they could do to try and respond to the third movie's problems that would only dig them deeper into a hole.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Zzzardozzz RE: Gwen

    by Big Dumb Ape

    I always looked at it that way, too. To be honest, as they were making the first film, I'm sure that behind the scenes they hoped they were making a hit, but I doubt they knew it would be SO huge at the box office. So, with that in mind, I can see Raimi making the first film...trying to put his best foot forward...and thinking to himself "What else can we throw into the mix? What else is really solid material from the comic?" -- at which point he zeroed in on the Gwen bridge scene and decided to lift it.<p>Of course, having now written themselves into a corner like that, then they got to the third film and said "Oh fuck, NOW what do we do?"...a producer mandate came down saying "put Gwen Stacy in"...and looking back at the first film, once again they said "Oh fuck, NOW what do we do? We screwed the pooch and ALREADY used the Gwen story!"<p>In the end, I agree with you, Zzzardozzz. I'd let Raimi stay since he's gone 2 for 3 on the movies...he clearly has a fondness for the character and could certainly deliver another solid movie...but screwing up the Gwen storyline really was the biggest mistake they made in these films. As I said before, what should have been the biggest and best and most emotional Spider-Man movie ever got TOTALLY pissed away.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Get Alex Proyas to direct...

    by Mr. Profit

    Get a better actor than Maguire, like Gosling. Get a prettier girl to be MJ. Make sure a good villain is involved. And no more of the unrealistic looking New York. It's kind of annoying and makes the movie feel too cartoonish. Also cut the running time to a lean hour and 30 mins and fill it with action. <P>It really shouldn't be hard to make up for part 3. But if everyone from the older films are still involved, I'll pass. I remember laughing hysterically at the scene in Spiderman 3 where MJ breaks up with him in Central Park while Franco was in the bushes laughing. It was straight up Days of Our Lives...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Spider Sense Tingling!!!

    by Lordgorp

    4,5,+6!! Thats a lot of Spidey!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:35 a.m. CST

    I'M LOST IN THE TECHNO TRANCE OF THE PLASMA POOL

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Spiderman 2 was mediocre

    by ominus

    i am not a hater,i loved the first spidy despite its flaws,but the next one is very overrated. <p>it is way better that the abomination that was spidy3,but it is in no fucking way a masterpiece or one of the best comic-movies ever. <p>sooner or later,the lovers of spidy2 will find out by themselves why spidy2 isnt such a good movie that they think it is. <p>and in another note,personally i cant say i am very satisfied with how raimi has treated the spiderman mythos in his movies: no wisecracks,spiderman is too loser and whiny,dunst was a miscast despite the fact that MJ characters in the movie had nothing to do with the comic version,the changes in uncle bens death,no spiderman trademark acrobatic stunts in the new york skycraper scenery etc etc etc.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:40 a.m. CST

    Best-case scenario for Spider-Man 5 and 6

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Assume that Spider-Man 4 will indeed be the Dracula/Wolfman horror movie and note that the following should be regarded as a dream or an IMAGINARY STORY: Two-part Sinister Six epic (Spider-Man SIX, get it?) Bring Sandman back. Bring Octopus back (climbed out of the water when we weren't looking.) End with the marriage of Peter Parker and Mary Jane, Spider-Man webslings into the sunset. After that, they could hire whoever they wanted to shoot their "reboot" where Spider-Man kisses Black Cat and fights CGI Carnage.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Mr Profit

    by ominus

    what about the scene at the end of the first movie,where MJ express her love about peter in a funeral,she had to go in a funeral to discover her hidden feeling about peter,and then express them there in the funeral?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Zzzardozzz, RE: movie 4

    by Big Dumb Ape

    You said: "What's worrying is a comment Raimi made, and I don't have the exact quote, about the seductive nature of vampires. The possibility percolates that they could try to make Morbius a sexy Anne Rice/Twilight vampire who uses his magic powers to seduce Mary Jane."<p>Actually, what terrifies me is the idea of having Morbius in the new movie and having him seduce Mary Jane simply because THEN you just KNOW that some bonehead production or marketing guy behind the scenes will be pushing that angle and saying "Yeah, yeah, yeah! We'll let Kristen go darker with the whole vampire angle...we can go for the DARK KNIGHT tone and go for the TWILIGHT crowd too...we'll sex her up and THAT will make all the fan boys drool and make them race into the theater. It's box office gold, baby!"<p>Well, I have news for Sony, Marvel, and Raimi -- casting Kristen Dunst was the WORST casting in the entire series. I NEVER bought her as the supposedly "hot" actress or model, so I'm certainly NOT going to buy into her being even sexier as a vampiress or whatever else you clueless fucks are thinking of!<p>Well, not unless you RECAST the part of Mary Jane and you actually DO get a hot looking actress to take over the role!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Please STFU whining about Spider-Man 3.....

    by 69DUDE

    ...it was good, solid entertainment. Not great, but definitely a decent enough entry in the series. Seriously...go watch The Happening, Wanted, Lady In The Water amongst many others..then re-evaluate just how bad a film can be.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Clone Saga as retcon for the movie franchise

    by ominus

    what we have seen in 3 movies was just the clone of spiderman.the new spiderman trilogy will show us the adventures of the true spiderman from the start.thus a reboot with the same/slightly different cast and stories is possible. <p>simple solution isnt it?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Oh, I meant Peter was supposed to be a photographer

    by lockesbrokenleg

    in those Iron Man press scenes. Well, Clark Kent could have been there, but he's DC.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Halle Berry as MJ

    by ominus

    why the hell not? she would be perfect as a hot vampires who tries to seduce spiderman in the vampire ways.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:53 a.m. CST

    If Sony had balls...

    by 69DUDE

    Post-Maguire Spidey 5 & 6 would feature Kraven The Hunter and cover the Mad Dog Ward storyline.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Mickey Rourke would have been great

    by ominus

    as Kraven.he has the physical appearance and from what i have seen in the IM2 teaser,he can play well a russian.well kraven fits him better than whiplash.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Spider-Man 3 wasn't a travesty because of Gwen Stacy

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    It was a travesty because Sam Raimi had no idea how to carry the Venom story line. Love stories can be messed with, villain introductions cannot. Unless you are a fierce advocate for shitty dance sequences.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Vampires!!

    by Lordgorp

    Are a hot property at the moment – so yeah – it’s a sound move (business wise) to make Spidey 4’s villain a vamp - I suppose. I wouldn’t be surprised if they try and shoehorn a Blade crossover in. Spiderman 3’s ‘downfall’ was too many villains – and too much CGI. You never cared about Venom because he was CGI that’s why a Carnage angle (IMO) wouldn’t work. Villain wise I’d go for something a bit more classic like Kingpin, Lizard, or Mysterio.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Bring Gobby back

    by McFlyWalker

    With Harry killed at the end of the 3rd movie...Oscorp now has a mysterious new head, who has funded the research of both Dr. Connors & Morbius. After the final showdown, Spidey thinks that it's all over, but the audience is shown that the new Oscorp head is Norman Osborne, back from the dead. At the start of the 5th movie, Norman hires a thug to steal Connors research.....that thug could be Cletus Kassidy, who finds and bonds with the Venom "fragment" in Connors lab to become Carnage. Meanwhile, JJJ has been manipulated into funding the Scorpion Weapon Suit, bringing back the thief from the first movie (who has signed on). At the end of this movie (middle of a trilogy) things are looking bleak as Spidey finds that. Gobby is back & sets it up for the last act. In number 6, bring back Morbius, Lizard, Sandman to join Green Goblin, Carnage & Scorpion & do a Sinister 6 story. Just a thought though!!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:12 a.m. CST

    All the Spider Man's are fine

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Look at GI JOE. Would you say THAT was better than Spidey 3?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:12 a.m. CST

    How about....

    by 69DUDE

    ...that storyline from issue#100 where Peter Parker grew 6 extra legs??

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Question for the Spider-Man fans

    by Continentalop

    If I was to ask you what are the most important stories in his comic book history, which ones would you list? What things happened in his personal life would you say were essential parts of Peter Parker's life, and which adventures, foes and battles did he have which you would say are the best things to ever happen to Spider-Man and had to part of a movie series? <P> That to me is how they should have made the Spider-Man series, and unfortunately they already fucked it up by screwing up the Death of Gwen Stacy and the Green Goblin AND the even fucked up the origin and story of a villain I don't like (Venom). <p> Now the question is what is left that they can still do?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Say what, 69DUDE?

    by ErnestBorgNine

    You meant four extra arms not "6 extra legs." Right, you fucking crackhead?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Lockesbrokenleg

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    How the fuck can you compare. GI Joe did suck, it was disappointing, but at least it started out that way. Spider-Man started out well, and sequeled well. Then a story-line that Sam Raimi couldn't handle was forced upon him and he completely fucked it up. Comparing GI Joe to Spider-man is like comparing Apples to Oranges... Aqua to Touch and Go. Amy Winehouse to Paris Hilton.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:34 a.m. CST

    ErnestBorgNine...

    by 69DUDE

    ...Jesus, sorry Mr Anatomy!!! Okay, let's be pendantic a spider has 8 legs, so he'd need 6 extra legs, right? But okay, I'll accept your point that arms could be legs too if he used them like a spider. So, 4 extra legs and 2 extra arms. Everyone happy now!?? LOL!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Hay Sam, Bring back the original Green Goblin

    by TheManWhoCan

    But keep it a suprise, by saying you are using a shitty twilight vampire vs Warewolf (lizard)for the plot. That is what your doing? isnt it?ISNT IT!SAM TALK TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:41 a.m. CST

    When are we going to get SPIDER-HAM!!!!!!

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    I want me some Peter Porker NOW!!!!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Oh, and they also fucked up Flash Thompson

    by Continentalop

    One of the most important supporting characters in Spider-Man's comic book history.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Spiderman 2 whiners

    by smirker

    All the people who are whining about how Spider-Man 2 was great at the time, but now it's been surpassed so it's now crap... if it wasn't for the squillions of dollars that Spidey 2 made, the studios wouldn't have invested all that cash in the recent crop of superhero franchises. It was good, excellent even, for the time. Special effects have moved on since but it's still heaps of fun. As for Spider-Man 3? Garbage.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:54 a.m. CST

    I'm glad Zodiac was good...

    by yesiamaplant

    ...but all the rest of this guys stuff is either outright crap, or overrated crap. Feh.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:58 a.m. CST

    wow

    by peterwatts

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4 a.m. CST

    holy not getting it

    by peterwatts

    wouldnt it be great if marvel themselves owned iron man, thor, captain amercia and most of their core characters, if ther hulk rights reverted back to them they could even cross reference movies and make an avengers film, they could then distribute through howver they want, maybe even set a line of credit using their characters as security to fund their movies, I might pitch that idea, probably too wild and crazy for anyone to but it.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4 a.m. CST

    holy not getting it

    by peterwatts

    wouldnt it be great if marvel themselves owned iron man, thor, captain amercia and most of their core characters, if ther hulk rights reverted back to them they could even cross reference movies and make an avengers film, they could then distribute through howver they want, maybe even set a line of credit using their characters as security to fund their movies, I might pitch that idea, probably too wild and crazy for anyone to buy it.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Blame Arad for #3

    by MapMan

    Stop blaming Sam Raimi for the Spider-Man 3 debacle. Raimi had the story and villian all lined up with Sandman and the conclusion of the Harry Osborne story-line when Avi Arad barged in and demanded that Raimi incorporate Venom into the storyline. So Raimi now had to juggle the Sandman/Harry Osborne/Gwen Stacey storyline AS WELL as figure out a way to shoehorn in the Venom storyline into a movie that was only 2+ hours long. Why didn't Arad and Sony leave Raimi alone instead of forcing this shit on him? He could have made the ultimate trilogy if not for Arad and studio interference.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:10 a.m. CST

    More like, "The Run-UP"

    by DustinMyselfOff

    The Rundown (see what I did there) is a REALLY under rated movie. If you haven't seen it and you like action/comedies, then check it out. I'm pumped about the same writer working on this. I have faith he will lower the cheese factor from the CGI reel that was supposed to be Spiderman 3.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:12 a.m. CST

    Let's concentrate on...

    by photoboy

    ... making sure Spider-Man 4 isn't totally shit like Spidey 3 before planning even more sequels. Okay, Sony? Planning more sequels before you've fixed the problems from last time isn't a good idea.<br /><br /> I do not want to sit through another boring shit-fest like SM3, this time make it good like the first two. Especially Spider-Man 2.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:32 a.m. CST

    Get MacGuire the fuck outta there!

    by IForgotAbout19

    The guy has one move: Cry. Andy Kindler would make a better Spider-Man.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Peter Parker had one evil dance move and the geeks

    by AsimovLives

    are now proclaining that Spider-Man 3 is a terruible movie, Sam Raimi is a terrible director and there's no more interest in the Spidey saga? Is this for real? Are this the same people who sucked Jar Jar Abrams' cock for his terrible bullshit Fuck Trek movie? Is there any correlation?<br><br>Who understands the geeks this days? Bunch of self-indulgents!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:39 a.m. CST

    Never got the love for this series

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Bland acting, lazy direction, poor FX... the only sequence I can remember from the first two movies is the train fight. Spiderman 5 and 6 will never be made, the audience has lost interest.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:44 a.m. CST

    Herc, get your facts straight...

    by filmcoyote

    Bouncy X at the top is on the right lines here. Paramount does not "control" Iron Man, Captain America and Thor, Universal does not "control" Hulk. Neither studio is producing those movies. They are solely controlled and produced, all creative decisions made, by Marvel Studios. Paramount and Universal essential act as distribution entities only on those films. Marvel control the characters and that is why The Avengers is possible down the road using Iron Man, Thor, Cap, Hulk and their supporting characters. Marvel do NOT control Fantastic Four, X-Men, Spider-Man, The Punisher because they gave up movie rights on those characters to Fox and Sony. They gave up shit to Paramount and Universal so they wouldn't have any say any way around. If there were to be any chance of a crossover involving Fox and Sony-owned characters the negotiations would be with Marvel Studios, Paramount and Universal would not be involved. They control nothing.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:02 a.m. CST

    Reboot Needed?

    by The Funk

    sorry, but "3", as much as a money-making machine as it was, killed my interest in the franchise. The writing was terrible, & WTF was with the stupid dancing sequences? The ending was terrible & Venom (& even more so Eddie Brock) was terribly mis-handled. Where was the build-up to Brock going a little of the deep end before getting the symbiote? 1&2 are brilliant but 3 shat on all over the place, & its a hell of a mess to clean up.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Reboot the Whole thing

    by Crow3711

    The trilogy we have are good and all, but everyone knows three screwed the pooch pretty big, just give someone else a shot. And get rid of Dunst and MacGuire. If hollywood can do a battlestar galactica movie 3 months after the tv show ends and can reboot superman whenever they please because Returns wasnt good enough, theres no reason not to reboot spiderman.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Oh, and Zodiac

    by Crow3711

    is the best movie to never win an Oscar. period.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Crow3711

    by Continentalop

    Citizen Kane, Psycho, GoodFellas, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Once Upon A Time in the West would all like to disagree.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:13 a.m. CST

    After 3, do we really want a 4, let alone 5&6

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:17 a.m. CST

    Captain America?

    by Lordgorp

    Come to think of it - I’d be more interested in a ‘Captain America’ movie than another Spidey trilogy. The best way I think they could do a ‘Cap’ movie is to set the first half in the 40’s, imagine it – crackling Pathe news reels depicting Cap fighting alongside the regular Army: “Here comes the American superman” etc etc. Pit him against the Nazi’s and Red Skull, freeze him, and then move the story on to present day when he thaws out to defeat <insert villain>. Using the world today and how it contrasts with the World War 2 era. It could be a lot of fun – seeing how Cap deals with the attitudes and challenges of today’s society. Thus getting around the character looking and acting ‘cheesy’ in modern day times. Thor? Dunno how they’ll get round that one. . . .

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:29 a.m. CST

    yeah have cap killing arab terrorists

    by ominus

    and after that he goes against north koreans.throw mandarin somewhere there as a north korean weapon scientist,who is Kim Il-sungs right hand and have Iron man as a guest appearance who heps cap to his cause. <p>thus u establish the ground for two things: Mandarin as starks villain in a future movie sequel,and ofc the inevitable Avengers movie. <p>brilliant isn it?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Parmount doesn't control IM and Uni doesn't control Hulk

    by JuanSanchez

    They're distributors. Marvel controls them 100% - hence the crossovers. On the other hand - Sony purchased the rights to Spidey, Fox purchased rights to some of the X-Men and Fantastic Four and so on. So they don't cross over. There you go.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Who owns DareDevil?

    by OfficerJunior

    Let's reboot that fucker. I like Ben Affleck but not as DD. Wait, wasn't John Favrou (the swingers dude, can't spell his last name) in that peice of shit? Then he directed IronMan. Talk about a shifting of gears. But yeah, reboot DD.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:53 a.m. CST

    Crossover

    by OfficerJunior

    Marvel should cross everything into everything, bring the Punisher, F4, Spidey, together, even for two minute cameos. RDJ at the of Incredible Hulk was fucking awesome, The avengers will be a monster fucking hit. Marvel is on track, as long as IronMan 2 isn't on par with Indy 5, they are making canon movies, with talent on both sides of the camera and are making real bank. Keep it up.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Yeah they will crossover everything..

    by ominus

    jesus guys try to get real concerning the avengers movie. if the movie is ever going to be made using the cast of the separated franchises,dont u think that its budget will become unreal? <p>even if u just add up only the salaries of the stars of those movies,u ll need at least 100m dollars just for their salaries.and what about their screen time and their part in the movies story? have u forgotten that Halle Berrys demand to have more time in the xmen franshise, since she got the oscar,was one of the main reasons that the xmen3 movie was such a mess? <p>and lets say the budget is not a problem.who is going to direct it? wont the directors of all the other franchise movies want to take a chance on this movie? based on what criteria,will Marvel studion select the suitable director for the avengers movie? based on who director demands the smallest salary,based on who director has made the most successful movies or based on who director is the most creative and talented to take the responsibitily to create a movie of such proportions? <p>and all these things,provided that the rest of marvels future franchises are successful ones.until now we have a total failure concerning the Hulk franchise,Iron Man is the only huge hit and we dont even know how the new movies are going to be. <p>and if indeed these movies are failures,what is going to happen? an avengers movie where the protagonist and the only star is RDJ and all the rest of teh cast are b-list actors filling their roles? just think about it.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Villains?

    by Die_Hardest

    The Goblin storyline is over so I'm guessing we won't see Hobgoblin. I'd like to see a movie with Mysterio as the villain. Maybe Kraven the Hunter, or Electro. And what's the deal with Sandman? He killed Uncle Ben and then at the end of the movie he just kind of floated away.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Also

    by Die_Hardest

    I hope Raimi has something new to say about Spiderman. 3 was basically the same story as 2, only not as well done.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Mapman

    by Larry Sellers

    Raimi has said that it was Venom, Gwen Stacey, and Capt Stacey that Arad wanted in the film. Gwen and her dad were already in the film, just as a girl in Peter's class and a police capt. They were just going to be random characters. I mean they obviously could've been since they were both completely wasted in that movie. Also there still would have been three villains with Raimi wanting Vulture in. So who knows? It could've been mediocre whether or not there was any interference from Arad.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:40 a.m. CST

    They should just reboot 3

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    <p>Because let's face it--Raimi has a very solid track record. The whole debacle of Gwen Stacy aside, there was never anything wrong with 1 and 2--everything worked out very well. Perhaps not as mind-blowing as TDK or Iron Man, but the first two Spider-Man films were worthy of a geekgasm in their own right.</p> <p>3 was, as everyone believes, just an unmitigated mess. Too many villain storylines diluted the overall plot, and the entire Gwen Stacy appearance contributed almost nothing to the story. Raimi & Co. might as well take this opportunity to make 4 as a reboot of 3, so we can forget about that awful, awful film.</p>

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Mary Jane came off as such a huge bitch in Spidey3

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    It can't have been intentional but they wrote her as such a self obsessed, whiney bitch. Like the way she gets pissed off when she sees Peter's happy and contented, or the way she goes off with Harry because she saw Peter as Spider-man give Gwen a kiss, even though it's no different really from Peter seeing her kiss some dude in a play. <p> Plus, they had her completely freak out at him saying "how could you? That was OUR kiss" when in the previous movie she tried to recreate that kiss herself with her astronaut boyfriend. <p> Like I said, they made her completely unlikable and by the end of the movie you're just hoping she dies and that Peter ends up with Gwen or even the chocolate cake Russki girl.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Do SECRET WARS

    by ricarleite2

    Or just have Spidey 4, 5 and 6, and make it EMO and g... oops! thinf b4 you speak!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:12 a.m. CST

    I used to Love Raimi-

    by ToMonicker

    But I checked out of Spiderman with number 2... Frankly, I pretty much dug the heck out of Drag Me To Hell, and I wish he'd play in that or another sandbox like it again. Then again, I was never a big Spiderman fan to begin with, but Spiderman, like Batman seems to have a perenial appeal to the kids. Supes comes and goes, but those two, will always have something going on toywise and beyond comic mediawise.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST

    I still don't see the big bitch about Spider-Man 3.

    by Azlam Orlandu

    Did they fuck up Venom? Kinda. Was it a terrible film? Not by a longshot in my opinion. People tend to amplify the things they dislike to validate their opinions. You fools go with the thoughtless masses too often.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST

    This is all well and good...

    by gingerella

    But who's gonna write Spiderman 7,8 and 9? That's the burning question! I'll check this site every day for updates and to be honest I'll not rest until I know. Here they are worrying about 4,5 and 6 when they should be looking to the future! That's what a smart mogul would be doing. Honest to God, I wish I was fucking dead.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:31 a.m. CST

    They should just reboot the whole fucking movie industry

    by ominus

    if u ask me

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Iron Man above average, that's all

    by runfoodrun

    No where in the league of Spidey 2 or even x2, and don't mention it with Nolan's Bat films...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Bears mentioning

    by Die_Hardest

    The fact that they've hired somebody to script these movies doesn't necessarily mean they'll get made, or that the final product will resemble the scripts at all.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Also, can Raimi stop waving American flags?

    by the ageless stranger

    We get it, he's an American hero, but for those of us in the rest of the world (yes, it's out there), that moment in Spidey 3, or possibly 2, where Spiderman swings, lands on a rooftop and the background is composed entirely of an American flag was frankly embarrasing to watch.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:58 a.m. CST

    A Human Torch crossover would be great!

    by D.Vader

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:59 a.m. CST

    the ageless stranger

    by vezner2007

    Your anti-Americanism is much more embarrassing to watch.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8 a.m. CST

    The Amazing Spider-America

    by ominus

    taking character-crossover in the Marvel Universe literally.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Keep those dance numbers coming

    by White Goodman

    I love them! Also, I miss According to Jim.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:06 a.m. CST

    vezner2007

    by the ageless stranger

    It's not anti-americanism. But there's a big difference between patriotism and this syrupy "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH" bullshit that seems to require putting a flag in every scene.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST

    vezner2007 its not about anti-americanism

    by ominus

    its about the universality of the spiderman character.as stan lee has mentioned in his interviews,one of the key elements of spidermans universal success,was that he was wearing a whole-body suit with a mask covering his face.every kid from usa,to china,to south africa,to brazil and so on,could easily relate and get fascinated to the spiderman character since spiderman,when peter put his mask on,didnt have racial and ethnic traits.everybody could be behind his mask.stan lee has said that. <p>but when raimi starts transforming spiderman into captain america,with all the usa flag backgrounds and all that,that kind of the characters universal appeal starts breakin up.foreign kids stop relating to him. <p>personally i didn have problem with the usa flag at the end of the first movie,after all he is a usa culture icon,but raimis insistence to turn spidy more and more into an american patriotic hero,well it started to get annoying.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    I hope they move away from being chick flicks.

    by YackBacker

    That last one was a fucking Merchant-Ivory cry-fest. Holy shit, that was terrible.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Mysterio, The Scorpion, Electro, The Lizard, Kraven...

    by BenBraddock

    There are PLENTY to choose from!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Why does it have to be a reboot?

    by WickedJester

    Why can't they just tell a unique Spiderman story?<br><br>Has it come to this? A world where people actually REQUESTING a reboot?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Oh boo hoo, the ageless stranger and ominus

    by rev_skarekroe

    They already turned G.I. Joe into an international force, took the "and the American way" out of Superman's catch phrase. You gonna bitch because there's a Captain America movie coming out and it's not going to be changed to Captain U.N.? Don't like American superheros being American, lobby to get a superhero movie from your own country made.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:54 a.m. CST

    by WickedJester

    Where people ARE actually REQUESTING a reboot*? (Need caffeine)

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Fucking commies

    by WickedJester

    Sorry if an AMERICAN movie about an AMERICAN superhero living in AMERICA defending AMERICAN citizens had an AMERICAN FLAG in it.<br><br>Besides the fact that he's based in New York where the majority of the skyscrapers have American Flags waving from the top of them for some odd reason...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    rev_skarekroe, like I said....

    by the ageless stranger

    The problem isn't with Spiderman being American, it's with this Raimi's directing ethos which goes a little like this: "SPIDERMAN IS AMERICAN! HE'S AMERICAN! DID WE REMIND YOU THAT HE'S AMERICAN?" It's clumsy, and it's badly done. At least in Captain America, he embodies the ideals, without having to ram it down everyone's throat. That's the difference. Subtlety. And no, I won't be bitching when that comes out, assuming they do it right.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    au contraire mon capitan

    by ominus

    rev-skarekroe i am too upset that turned GIJOE from an all-american team into a UN force.americana was one of gijoes trademakr,one of their core element and taking that out of them,well its at least stupid and disrespectful.so i am there with you. <p>concerning superman well he IS the embodiment of americana,but if i am not mistaken for the past years,in the comics,he has turned from an american symbol into a worldwide one.he himself claims that planet earth is his homeplanet and he will protect it with his life.not just usa but the whole world.thats why the catchphrase has changed.if u have a problem with that,well send your complaints at DCs offices.but beware,at the end if superman is all about the american way,then superman, in Millers TDK returns GN,rightfully gets his ass kicked by batman. <p>last but not least,u ignore that i transfered Lees statements about spidys character.he wanted to make him with a universal appeal. <p>ps.no need for that. usa has already made movies of our heroes: herakles,achillies,odysseus etc.movie turds but movies nevertheless ;)

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Spidey and America.

    by Deathpool

    I never really thought of Spider-Man as an American hero, and I'm from America myself. I'm sure if you asked Peter Parker he'd say, 'yay go USA' or whatever, but he's not the patriotic symbol that Captain America is or Superman use to be. Besides Cap, any other patriotic-y characters tend to be B-listers or lower (USAgent, Jack Flagg, etc). So yeah, that image of Spidey running with an absolutely enormous american flag behind him was kind of silly. Not 'dancing down the street' silly, of course...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Why doesn't this site help people understand the Spider-Man 3 st

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    Go look at a copy of The Spider-Man Chronicles: The Art and Making of Spider-Man 3. It's probably still sitting unsold on the shelf at your local Barnes & Noble. It candidly details the entire story of the film's disastrous development. Raimi and his brother Ivan were writing the Sandman/Vulture story they wanted. Producers Laura Ziskin and Avi Arad hired Alvin Sargent to write the Venom script that THEY wanted. The "best" screenplay would be the one that got produced. Alvin Sargent is Laura Ziskin's husband. Guess who won the contest? Raimi tried to keep some of his ideas as they ripped Vulture out of his story and sloppily crammed in Venom, and requested that they the movie be produced as a two-parter to cover all the required ground with three villains. They would not do it. Even within the movie they made, you can see photos of big scenes that were cut and have never been seen--scenes which the making of book cites as "crucial" to the plot. When Raimi tells you he has creative control on Spider-Man 4, it's his PC way of saying he got completely fucked on 3.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Bit presumptious, one feels...

    by BiggusDickus

    If 4 is the reeking turd that 3 was, then 5 and 6 just ain't gonna happen.<p>Drop Raimi, get rid of that Christ-awful Dunst bird and resolve the Dr. Connors/Lizard build-up and I may just get interested again...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    With hindsight, there's probably a decent hour-long...

    by BiggusDickus

    ...Spider Man tale somewhere in the shitfest that was 3.<p>Has anyone done an edit and removed all the Venom bits?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I'd like to see Raimi do another cut of 3

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    There'd be the chance to put back the stuff that was cut and take out the "butler scene." Too bad they didn't do that on the first DVD, because you won't get people interested in buying 3 again unless you can bundle it in some huge 1-4 super box.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    I may be the only one...

    by bueno_bob

    But I'm looking forward to the next three Spider Man movies. About the only problems I had with Spider-Man 3 were getting Sandman involved with Uncle Ben's murder and the mismanagement of Venom. I always enjoy Spider-Man though, been a lifelong fan for about as long as I can remember.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Spider-Man 3 does not replay well. At all.

    by Orbots Commander

    It came on, I think, on some of the Starz channels, sometime last week. Couldn't take more than a few minutes of it. <p> In contrast, I could sit down and watch Spidey 2 whenever it's on. And yes, in Spidey 3, Mary Jane morphed into a shrew.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    that's all well and good but

    by j_difool

    I got dibs on penning Spiderman 7 & 8. (the ones Schumacher is directing.)

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Spiderman 3

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    i i hate spiderman 3 blah blah, spiderman 3 raped my childhood whine whine. sandman made me cry boo hoo

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Spiderman

    by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    The Green Goblin was the first red flag. He looked nothing like his comic book counterpart. The look of The Green Goblin is as iconic as Spiderman and what's with this Electro talk? Electro looks fucking ridiculous. Shocker > Electro.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    I agree with what others have stated...

    by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    REBOOT THE WHOLE FUCKING THING.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    This Proves Big Name Actors Are Useless

    by MANNZILLA

    First off, does Tom Cruise really need to make 60-80 million off one movie. Why do you think movie budgets are so out of control. This makes the studios take less chances on new properties. The lead in District 9 did a fantastic job and I could have cared less that he wasnt well known. They should put a cap on movie budgets so directors are forced to be creative with it. Im tired of fx porn like Transformers 2. The effects in District 9 also felt restrained wich is EXACTLY HOW FX SHOULD BE.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Hey, I love America!

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    Oh say can you see, oh say can you see, oh sa... <p> Fuck Hitler.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    The Spider-Man trilogy...

    by Azlam Orlandu

    ...is overall amazing. I love those movies from beginning to end. You people just don't understand camp.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    spider-man in front of US flags beats...

    by Bouncy X

    seeing captain canuck in front of canadian flags so let the americans keep doing what they do. i have no complaints.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    peter parker eats peanut brittle

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Azlam Orlandu

    by IForgotAbout19

    I always understood camp as being movies that were "fun to watch" in some way. Not just test-reels of crying actors. If Raimi was trying to go for camp, he failed. If he wasn't, he failed.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Mary Jane eats candy canes

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    You're right Azlam Orlandu...

    by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    Because I thought Spiderman 3 was a piece of shit, I obviously don't understand camp. "Overall amazing" he says.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Agreed....reboot 3 as if it never existed...

    by Cellar Door

    There's really nothing in that movie remotely worth salvaging. Even Aunt May doesn't speak in normal sentences anymore...she just farts out inspirational bullshit nonstop. Seriously, if you can stand it, watch SP3 again...nothing she says is a standard line of dialog a normal human being might say, it's all nails on chalkboard aphorisms the whole time. Who wrote this shit? Hallmark?<p>Somebody made a brilliant casting call in a previous lambaste Spidey3 TB for a new MJ: Mary Elizabeth Winstead (girl from Sky High and Live Free or Gunshot)...give her the read auburn hair and viola, you've got Mary Jane. Kick ass if not brilliant casting (she can play both damsel and asskicker if needed).<p>Unthink using Bryce Dallas Howard for anything where "super fine girl" is involved...yeah, that's right, I said it. She's poodle-ly weird looking kinda semi-pretty in a weird 'are you sure you're not part ET?' way, not drop dead gorgeous and as healthy as my suspension of disbelief is, I don't buy for one second Kristen Dunst or Bryce Howard as being supermodels, beautiful girls, etc, much less the characters of Mary Jane and Gwen. Part of that is opinion of course but...well..watch the third one again and that modeling gig with the berserk crane...hint: Howard is the sore thumb sticking out and up your ass as you watch.<p>I also agree that MacGuire should go - he basically has 3 emotions, doofus, cry, and mad-angry-cry (maybe that's 2 then) but he's played his hand and it's a pair of 3's...he can move on now. Gosling would be great but only if we continue and not reboot (as he's not that young)...of course there are others...always others...<p>As for storyline? Not as much a Spidey comic reader as most of you but what I did read mostly involved Lizard and Dylan Baker has been sweetly biding his time and deserves the role or bollocks on to whoever produces. Seriously, if Lizard shows and it's not Baker, fuck any new Spidey's..Baker deserves it period.<p>Carnage brings back to many bad Venom memories plus you guys do know that a Venom spin-off flick is in the works right? So no, no Carnage. Ever.<p>I vote for Lizard at minimum...not sure who else would be good but why not just one god damn villain? Perish the thought. Although I'd love Norman Osborne to return in some plausible (yeah i know) twist and reignite Green Goblin (sans power rangers mask this time)...hell some sort of Frankenstein thing might cover why he'd wear a more traditional Goblin mask...Dafoe chewed serious scenery but I still loved his portrayal even with the decent but kinda ass-like Goblin suit.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    The new villiain will be...

    by BiggusDickus

    'Improbable Exposition Butler Man' - last seen in 3.<p>He's back - and this time he's got even more painfully unlikely plot scenarios to tell you about! <p>Quake with fear, Peter Parker!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    smirker

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    what the fuck does how much money Spiderman 2 made have to do with whether or not it holds up as a good movie? By that rationale, TRANSFORMERS 2 must be one of the greatest movies ever (which it is not). Plus, your point over whether or not any other superhero movies would have been made without the success of Spiderman 2 is a stretch.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Tobey Maguire is glib

    by tom_cruise_

    Connor Cruise to play Spiderman!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Spidey 2 was genius, and all of a sudden Spidey 3 is garbage??

    by SirBiatchReturns

    cmon guys, get real. NO director will hugely flip the script and disregard a highly successful formula to produce garbage. Spidey 3 is the logical next-step for Spidey 2, just as Transformers 2 is the logical step of Trans 1. Directors and producers will analyze what made a film successful and will replicate it, and usually add more of the same. Spidey 2, IMO, was a plot-hole ridden cryfest. It was so emo to the point where I turned to my friend (in theater, opening day) and said "WTF AM I WATCHING? Is this Spiderman or Dawson's Creek?" Raimi must have seen how successfully emo Spidey 2 was and obviously tried to replicate it in Spidey 3, and then failed. At that point, people were tired of the emo thing. But let's be perfectly real - you can't HATE Spidey 3 and LOVE Spidey 2 at the same time. Watch both those movies again and see how much crying there was. Mary Jane suddenly turned into a shrew in movie 3? Nope. she was a shrew in movie 2, that's why it sucked. But she was a bigger shrew in movie 3, so everyone noticed it and hated it. The roots of crap are usually always there from the beginning.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Real original name, ZZZARDOZZZ!

    by Zardoz

    There's a reason why you couldn't use my name, you unoriginal, name-stealing bitch! And I've been using Zardoz for 10 years now, so fuck off already!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    they should

    by tom_cruise_

    start the whole spiderman series over like they did with Batman. CGI Christian Bale from Newsies as a young peter pecker

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    RE: Zardoz

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    John Boorman just messaged me on Facebook and said he likes my posts more than yours.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    ZZARDOZZZ...

    by Zardoz

    Charlotte Rampling just called me to let me know that she likes my gun inside her more than yours! Now, seriously, fuck off, you hack!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    RE: Zardoz

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    I showed Boorman your post and he sent me this on AIM: (11:52:37 AM) PointBlankman: dude what the hell

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    ZZARDOZZZ...

    by Zardoz

    So, not only are you a name-stealer but you're also a pretentious, lying asshole? Nice combination of character traits you have there, son...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    lol @ the above battle... really!

    by Jaka

    Ten paces.<br><br> Turn.<br><br> And fire.<br><br>

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Strangely, I agree with Tom Cruise

    by Jaka

    I've been completely underwhelmed by the first three Spiderman films. In fact, I mostly don't like them at all. A few good scenes here and there. I'd love to see a different set of people work on this property. But it's hard to argue with the box office, and I'm sure I'll get a minor fanboy beat down for expressing said opinion.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    So, where do the Pedalbackers meet up next?

    by D.Vader

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    What's a "pedalbacker"?

    by Jaka

    lol I'm going to assume that I know what you're talking about and defend myself by saying I've never liked these movies, nor most of the superhero/comic book films of the last 10 years or so. They're rarely faithful to the source material and it's like living the comic book boom all over again - they keep repeating themselves. Sure, it's a different costume in a different city, but it's the same damn movie when you get right down to it. Definitely ready for something new. <br><br> Random: Elfquest movie is finally a go after twenty years! Wooot! And I'm still down for a Sandman or Death film adaptation. But the fear of them not being great almost makes me hope that they never happen.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Oh Jaka, a Pedalbacker is...

    by D.Vader

    Everyone who's been contributing to the awesome 10,000+ talkback that currently resides at the top of the Top Ten Talkbacks you can find at the top right of this page. Its the one about Gary Oldman.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    I think you got to wait D. Vader

    by Continentalop

    Until the ArmageddonBack appears in the top 10. I think that was Subs and Cheeses and 6DB's rallying point.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Christopher Walken should shave his head and be Red Skull

    by YoyodynePropulsionSystems

    Then he can use his bad-assery to convince all these studio folks to come together for some crossovers.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Hey Conti

    by Mel Gibsteinberg

    Did you boys finally break the TB on the Oldman backpedal? I wanted to give all you fellas your proper congrats, but was cock blocked! <P>Whats up with that, I haven't been that badly cock blocked since Sophie Marceau refused to let me shave a swirly -Q on her lady parts.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Spider-man 3 is the best of the series!

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    deal with it you cunts! Spider-man 3 rules!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Spidey 2 was very good, the third was a turd.

    by Stalkeye

    ..as it was silly, a bit pretentious and everything jumbled in.Oh, so we are to believe that the Sandman was really Uncle ben's killer?Dark Parker being fed Milk and Cookies by Ditkovitch's daughter as opposed to playing hide the Salami? Oh, and then there's the dancing the reason why the Spiderman broadway musical was cancelled, is because we have SEEN it already!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibsteinberg & D,Vader

    by Jaka

    That's a funny ass username! lol And... <br><br>Oooooh, I get it. Added to the lexicon.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Fucking Marvel...

    by TheWaqman

    determined to milk the shit out of their properties on screen. Makes DC look tame as hell in comparison.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    If there's gonna be a Spider-Man 6...

    by TedKordLives

    ...it damn well better have six fucking villains. They don't have to call themselves the "Sinister Six" or anything but they damn well better team up with the goal of taking down Spider-Man. <P> Seriously.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Well they certainly aren't...

    by Jaka

    ...raking in the dollars on comics these days. Sure, they're staying afloat. But it's nothing like it was through the late eighties and early to mid-nineties. There's very little chance that they'll ever get back to that point. So movies seem like the logical choice, unfortunately. I mean, really, they can just insert a new comic book character and toss them at the screen to see what sticks. When something does, it gets a sequel or two. It's not a bad plan as long as they have at least one huge money-maker every year or so. Unfortunately, as I already mentioned, Marvel is superheroes, and most superhero stories are basically the same. You can argue that all you like, but I've been reading comics for almost thirty years, so you better have a good argument. When you break it down, most superhero stories revolve around the same concepts and ideas. Changing the costume and location doesn't really make them different.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    TheWaqman

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    thats because DC can't get its act together and make super-hero movies! its not because they are showing restraint or "class"

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Jaka

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    "When you break it down, most superhero stories revolve around the same concepts and ideas. Changing the costume and location doesn't really make them different." You can say that about any story. not just super-hero stories.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    And for the love of God and your own bodies...

    by TedKordLives

    ...Bruce as Mysterio! Just for the first 15 minutes of a film. Think of all the tricks he could pull on Spidey that would actully be Raimi's tricks that he's pulling on the audience.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    by Jaka

    I agree to a certain extent. But the box is a wee bit smaller when you add spandex and superpowers to the concept.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    patriotic Spider-Man

    by oisin5199

    I thought the flag scene in the first movie was a direct response to 9/11, but from a New York perspective, and the subway scene in SM2 (which frankly, I thought was the best scene in the movie) also was about New Yorkers. The flags in SM3 didn't really register for me, to be honest. They didn't seem to serve a purpose, so I ignored them.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST

    CITIZEN KANE

    by batman713

    fucking sucks. Zodiac takes a shit all over it.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    By the third movie

    by TedKordLives

    I woulda thought that Raimi had gotten all the prominent flag placements out of his system. <P> I thought wrong.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Maybe Raimi is just a patriotic kinda guy

    by Jaka

    ???

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Jaka

    by TedKordLives

    Didn't see no flags in the Evil Dead movies. I DO remember seeing a confederate flag in The Quick & The Dead, tho.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    "CITIZEN KANE fucking sucks. Zodiac takes a shit all over it."

    by Continentalop

    Wow. How do you argue with such an intelligent and well thought out criticism? <P> Batman713, if you had said you thought Citizen Kane was overrated and you preferred Zodiac, I could understand. Film is subjective. But that statement makes me think you are the type of guy whose mouth moves when he reads. <P> Tell me how Zodiac is better aesthetically, artistically, historically, and cinematically (and without using the words "cool" or "kick-ass" or "sucks") and maybe I will see your point.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Tired of mad scientists and crazed businessmen

    by TedKordLives

    I wanna see Spidey go up against someone with actual fighting skills. Enter Gerard Butler as Kraven! He's hunting Pete's pal Dr. Connors, who's gone and turned himself into a six foot tall lizard-man. <P> Shit writes itself.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by Jaka

    lol, ok, fair point. But I was kind of rolling with the concept that all three movies are post 9/11/New Yorkish affairs.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Continentalop fucking sucks.

    by TedKordLives

    Batman713 takes a shit all over him. <P> 'Well, that's what I heard!' <P> Obviously, I am joking and this will inadvertently lead to my banning. Because that's how my life works.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Seriously, does Spiderman...

    by Jaka

    ... not have ANY great villains. I mean, I thought Hobgoblin/Green Goblin (or whatever order they go in) were cool when I was younger. Have they ruined the possibility of that storyline altogether already? Franco is bigger now than he was at the time of the first film, so it seems like that would be a logical way to go. Doesn't it?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Also...

    by Jaka

    ... the way they used Venom in the third film was lame. That could have been an entire trilogy if they'd done it right. I got the distinct impression that they just weren't planning on doing anymore of these from film number three. If they really are planning 5th and 6th film maybe that will allow them to slow down and do tell a real story with the 4th one.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Ted, I agree with you

    by Continentalop

    But besides Kraven, you know who would also be cool in a movie? Scorpion. He is basically Spider-Man's opposite number, and in fact you could argue that he is superior (a scorpion might be considered more dangerous than a spider). <P> Another guy I would love to see him face but fanboys hate him so much it would never happen is Vulture. I think his time has past in the series, but I think he would have worked great in the first couple of movies. Why? He is a bitter old man; Spider-Man originally represented youth (especially when he was in HS), so it would be a great generation war. <P> Plus, I had an idea to make his Norman Osborn's ex-partner (and I heard the the cartoon did this) out for revenge because Norman blackmailed him. The idea that Spider-Man has to protect one of his enemies is just to good of irony to pass up. Of course I would have Vulture working with another villain, he isn't a big enough risk on his own (in fact, I heard the original plot for 3 was Vulture and Sandman teaming up).

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    "Continentalop fucking sucks."

    by Continentalop

    Ted, where the fuck did that come from?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    lol

    by Jaka

    ^^^^ lol.... ????, but lol

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:40 p.m. CST

    You can't come back after ruining Venom.

    by OutlawsDelejos

    Unless you unleash a badass Carnage. Yeah, and no Vulture.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Just kidding around, Conti

    by TedKordLives

    I thought it'd tickle you a bit. <P> But I knew I was going to be misunderstood.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Also, picked a bad time to go to lunch.

    by TedKordLives

    My bad, chief. I totally fucked up my own lame joke.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    I know you were Ted

    by Continentalop

    I was just thinking "man, did he just hate one of those mysteries with VO i recommended him to rent?"

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    And Batman713

    by Continentalop

    I am going to apologize in advance for suggesting you are an idiot. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Having said that, I have still have a complaint with your statement: you are saying it is your opinion, you are stating that it is fact that Zodiac is better than Citizen Kane. And if that is the case you are going to need evidence to back that up.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    And OutlawsDelejos

    by Continentalop

    I think Venom sucks and Carnage doubly sucks. Vulture is 10 times a better character than those two combined.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Haven't gotten to those movies yet.

    by TedKordLives

    I was gonna hit up the video store after work tomorrow. <P> And I think it's safe to say we won't be seeing Carnage on the big screen for at least another ten years, if ever. He's got no overreaching arc, so he'd be hard to do unless he was just a mysterious force-of-nature like character.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    mOST sad

    by Sal_Bando

    tHEY should quit while they're NOT ahead.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Conti Pops wants a Morbious Movie to be made.

    by Sal_Bando

    You know YOU wanna see it, Too!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Morbious? No way.

    by Continentalop

    I would prefer if they just let the Spider-Man movies die now so maybe in 10-20 years someone else can try his hand at them and not fuck them up from the start (not blaming Raimi for that, but the producers did fuck this up from the start).

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 2 is the second greatest superhero movie ever...

    by Kal Reeve

    after Superman: The Movie.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 3 is the second worst superhero movie...

    by Kal Reeve

    after Batman and Robin.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Scorpion

    by TedKordLives

    Yeah, I could see that as well. Do you think they'd go as far as having JJJ fund the experiment? That's a bit extreme for the 'movie' J.Jonah to do. <P>In fact, Spidey sells papers so why would he want to 'do away' with him? It's counter-intuitive, no?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Conti Pops?

    by TedKordLives

    Is that like a Continentalop-flavored cereal? <P> Because I don't think I want any of that.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man continues to suck it.

    by ZodNotGod

    Spider-Man is the Superman III of this current comic book renaissance.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man continues to suck it.

    by ZodNotGod

    Spider-Man is the Superman III of this current comic book renaissance.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Ahem

    by ZodNotGod

    The best of the bunch are: Superman: The Movie The Dark Knight Superman II Superman Returns Spider-Man II Batman Begins Iron Man Swamp Thing

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Ted, Scorpion

    by Continentalop

    I think you could still have J.J Jameson be involved in the making of the Scorpion. The idea is he is going to replace Spider-Man with a hero of his own. <P> From here I would deviate from comic books and have J. J. Jameson select his own son John to become the Scorpion. That way you are kind of combining the Scorpion, Man-Wolf and the "Birth of a Hero" story from ASM 41-42 into one story line. <P> And if they hadn't fucked up the Death of Gwen Stacy, I would have it happened in the next movie after she dies so you have a reason why Jameson believes they need to hunt down Spider-Man. <p> The Death of Gwen Stacy will always be the hole that brings down the Spider-Man franchise.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by TedKordLives

    I agree. When they got to that scene in the first Spider-Man, my jaw dropped. I couldn't believe they'd just plop MJ into Gwen's death scene-and then not kill MJ! All of it was wrong. <P> I do like your logic re:Scorpion and also the idea of JJJ's son becoming the Scorpion, thinking he's gonna be the big hero. Of course, the whole thing is the idea of one Alastair Smythe...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    New Director???

    by beefywhore

    Maybe Joel Schumacker is available...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Exactly

    by Disco_sucks

    They've got nowhere to go from here, no story arc to work through, and no one gives a shit about that whiny bitch Maguire as Parker anyway. <p>And Maximum Clonage? You'd need at least three films to set that up, and even the comics ended up as a confusing mess.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    As long as Mysterio makes an appearance in one

    by AlienDragQueen

    of them, I'll be happy.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    The sixth movie should have...

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    The Sinister Six.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Ugh, I'm getting sick of comic book movies

    by CountryBoy

    There's a whole universe of stories out there wating to be filmed... must we endure THREE MORE Spiderman movies?

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    He wrote 'The Rundown'?

    by TedKordLives

    What a fun little movie! That's gonna be the best movie on The Rock's resume when all is said and done, I think.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    CountryBoy

    by TedKordLives

    There's 45 years worth of Spider-Man stories to tell, so buckle up chief. <P> You're in for a long ride.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    You'll update the article to embed a retarded youtube

    by ZZZARDOZZZ

    but you won't update the article to correct the nonsense about Paramount and Universal holding the Iron Man and Hulk rights.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Marvel should take away Foxs' rights.

    by mitortilla

    ala Superman with WB

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Go eat a dick, ZZZARDOZZZ!

    by Zardoz

    You fucking copycat!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Spidey/Hulk - so awesome!

    by hallmitchell

    With Mickey Rourke as Mysterio.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    How about Spidey/Daredevil?

    by hallmitchell

    With the PUnisher chipping in to kick a$$.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    how about

    by frank cotton

    something new, for cripes sake

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Reboot the franchise and drop everyone, THEN

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    bring in new writers!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    I agree that the first Spiderman had red flags but

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    people was buying the hype and drinking the Kool-Aid!<p>As soon as SpiderMan start revealing himself to every New Yoker I knew this franchise was shit!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    I stopped caring about Spidey...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    after movie #2. And from the sound of it I was right in doing so.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    lol yeah....

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    you just knew how total bullshit it was when in part II on the train everyone sees his face. That's when Stan Lee started getting strokes.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    you just knew those motherfuckers in real life...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    would've blackmailed his ass. *sigh* New York, New York!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Someone would had camera phone his ass!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    T'm being too generous, everyone in there would had camera phone his ass to CNN, FOX, MSNBC, AND etc!

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:32 p.m. CST

    by MacReady452

    Gotta take it back to Kraven. Kraven hunts the Lizard and Spidey and they all fight each other. Reboot reboot reboot. If crossovers will ever work they need to use mid level stars to keep the salaries down. Shit..McLovin as Peter Parker..it doesnt matter..Spidey is the star. HE WEARS A MASK! Plus better writing for fuckssake. Spidey is a smart ass. Its the best part of the comics.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 1:37 a.m. CST

    If Toby and Dunst are smart!

    by EvilDoeR

    They will do 5, and 6 also... I mean it's not like they are turning out Oscar nominated pictures or big box office flicks outside of Spiderman! And same for Sam Raimi! Spiderman 3 was good but Venom was ass fucked! Piss poor job with him. Overall I enjoyed, and liked the film but felt like Venom got the Darth Maul treatment, and that's not cool man...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 2:36 a.m. CST

    you guys are mad about the spidey 2 identity reveal?

    by SirBiatchReturns

    What about when Doc Ock sinks (literally) a power source as magnificent as the sun in the goddamn river? lmao. Oh yeah, Spidey 2 was a work of art.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 2:38 a.m. CST

    and lmao at Venom getting "ass fucked"

    by SirBiatchReturns

    good one, EvilDoer

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Spidey 1 and 2 were great...

    by The Amazing G

    Spidey 3 despite having some interesting action sequences was overall pretty damn bad, what the hell was up with MJ being a bitch for seemingly no reason?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Get Brian Michael Bendis

    by hulkiest

    As a lifelong Spidey comic fan, I have to agree with the above posts that claim the movies are all lame. When the first one came out, I couldn't believe that Raimi and co. didn't even capture the emotional depth of a comic book and added all sorts of nonsense and convoluted scenes to the best origin story in all of comic-dom. Raimi kept trying to ape Donner's Superman but like a poor marksman, kept missing the target. For instance, he shoots his wad way too early with a man on the street interview that would only make sense if the audience had been properly introduced to its subject. i.e. when Supes saves Lois. There was no scene like that in Spidey. All you had was the wrestling scene. Which was a clever throwaway in the comic, but in the movie, it was the very definition of overwrought. (Cheering full stadiums on amateur night?) And the comic had a half page panel that explained that Spidey was on TV for weeks and was astounding everybody. So, yeah, people knew who he was in the comic. Then, if he's stopping criminals after Uncle Ben's death, okay, cue the montage music and start showing man on the street stuff. (plus it would have been a better way to introduce JJJ's didain for him. "He's a Pro Wrestler milking his publicity.") But Raimi's tone deaf and has the big rescue after the man on the street montage. Plus all those dumb lines of dialogue like, "I always knew you were a freak, Parker!" Yeah, sure, a guy beats the crap out of the toughest kid in school, you either leave him alone or say, "Be my friend." And then MJ adds to the Saved By The Bell vibe with, "You really freaked us out", NOT "Wow! who'd a thought you were such a Tiger! "Tiger" get it? . And that's the least of the film's problems, I could rant all night at all the baloney like the fact that Green Goblin has no plan or there's no plot or any number of unsatisfying moments. Like MJ suddenly falling for Peter when he talks about how much he tells Spidey how giddy she makes him. (though all comics are guilty of this. The old, "I happen to know Spiderman and he assures me he'll be at the Charity Ball tonight." Which always begs, "Hey, aren't YOU Spiderman?" Still a clever movie writer wouldn't let the ship go into that crap direction) Part 2 was a little better but still, we're treated to ample amounts of sitcom writing and character development. Like, for instance, "Hey, Mary Jane, why don't you tell Harry that Spiderman saved your life and to shut the F%## up about how he killed your father since your father was a total pscyho in a plastic boogey man suit who threw you off the bridge?" Brian Michael Bendis' Ultimate Spidey run covered those emotional issues, and nearly fixed all the holes and hokum in Spiderman's history. But what's with Hollywood types always lighting up and pontificating on how comic writers aren't screenwriters and there's a world of difference. Well, that's funny, I think they're nearly the same. Bad dialogue in comics makes for bad dialogue in movies. And vice versa. And movies are storyboarded mostly, so what's the big difference? Oh, I know! A movie affords you the extra minutes to endure the monologues Raimi's stable of screenwriting hacks gave to Aunt May. "I believe there's a little hero in all of us...." "Gosh, Aunt May, could you please pass more of your scrumptious butter muffins while you bore us with your stock old lady wisdom?" And yes, it's shooting fish in a barrell picking on part 3. But the above post about how 2 paved the way for 3 was spot on. Part 1 paved the way for 3 if you ask me. They're disposable movies with very little excitement or logic. I don't say reboot, I say get Brian Michael Bendis to oversee the scripts and stop horsing around with writers who don't have a clue as to what they're putting down on paper.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST

    You bunch of hypocrites...

    by Sephiroid

    I remember when Spider-man 2 came out, you were all ecstatic... Now it's "mediocre"... Damn basement dwelling nerds... Nothing will ever sate your hunger...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    I'm not going to blame Raimi for Spiderman 3

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    I'm blaming the studios. They bowed to fan pressure to have Venom in the film and Raimi's hand was forced. He wasn't interested in having Venom be the villain because Venom wasn't a character he grew up with, and when you are forced to cram in characters and storylines into the story you want to tell it falls apart.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Proud to blame Raimi

    by hulkiest

    Well, I wasn't one of the geeks doing cartwheels when they chose Sam Raimi in the first place. (I was more excited about the project when James Cameron was involved.) I don't think human emotion is Raimi's strong suit. It's camera work and goofy action. But the fact that Spidey 1 and 3 had some of the most boring action scenes in a film, (the final fight with Green Goblin looked like it was filmed on a Dr. Who set) shows that even his all-hallowed camera prowess left him. Anyway, here's the point: Did Sam Raimi really say, "I'll teach you guys to pay me 20 million dollars to make me include one of Spiderman's most popular villains, I'm gonna make a TERRIBLE movie!!!" I don't think much of Venom as a character either, but I'd still put in an effort. With Raimi, it wasn't "Hmmm...the studios want me to include this lame Venom guy, how can I make it work?" It's "No one tells Sam Raimi what to do!!! Say, here's an option, Mr. Raimi. It's the "I think I'll pass on this chapter" option. And let's just say that his Vulture Sandman script was left in tact, he'd still have Sandman killing Uncle Ben. So you know, still completely undermining the strength of the origin story. So how blameless is Sam Raimi again?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Having Venom in a Spidey flick

    by bobbofatz

    was not the problem. It was how he was written and filmed. Coulda shoulda been the only villain. I vote for whoever said Kraven and Lizard in 4 or 5. Carnage could be made into the greatest comic villain ever if done the right way. Just a no thinking.no feeling, slaughtering demon of a character. Have it kill mj. It is a little stretch from the comics, but an all evil non wisecracking devil could be cool.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    SM3 could have worked

    by oisin5199

    if they had taken an Empire Strikes Back approach. See, despite the clusterfuck about Marko and Ben's death, I actually liked the idea that Peter went dark and had to learn forgiveness. (though I agree, his 'darkness' was a bit cheesy). But I think they should have just gone with the black suit, ended ambiguously, and waited until the next pic to bring in Eddie Brock as Venom. Plus, I wish they had gone with the Ultimate Spider-Man 'cure for cancer' origin for Venom that brought Peter's dad into the picture through flashbacks, rather than the completely random meteor thing, which was incredibly lame. This whole 4-5-6 thing may indicate that they actually might have a better idea how to structure the stories instead of overstuffed one-offs. We'll see.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Barged into 41071 accidently.

    by MadFuckingMax

    It was the Nineback. Saw things I didn't know happened at AICN.<P>Rob Marshall things...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    AVATAR trailer

    by Subtitles_Off

    http://tinyurl.com/p93e5b

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Maxxy!

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Have you seen D9 yet?

    by Subtitles_Off

    What say thee?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    I'ver not. Desperate to though.

    by MadFuckingMax

    Some douche in the IGback inadvertantly spoiled it.<P>Isn't out till the start of September over here though.<P>How much does subs recommend it?<P>I remember you saying it wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Juggling three threads at once

    by Subtitles_Off

    is a bitch.<P>The Back-pedalback Version 1.0 is about to drop out of the Top 10.<P>Moment of silence.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Subs' thumb points down.

    by Subtitles_Off

    It was entertaining for the moment, that is all. Now, the more they praise it for its originality, the more it just pisses me off.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    So,

    by Subtitles_Off

    What fizzed the tizzy over in the Mr.Sawback?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Like Kate to Leo

    by MadFuckingMax

    we have to let it go. <P>Knowing its derivative will help my expectations.<P>At the moment all I'm looking for is decent sci-fi action romp.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Well, I think

    by Subtitles_Off

    that it is. A popcorn romp.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    EliRoth'sHairyBack?

    by MadFuckingMax

    Beaks was being a hypocritical pest, so I called him out on it, and made a few snide comments. Something to the effect of faggots tasting good.<P>Of course, I was referring to the British food-stuffs.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    If I caught your meaning right.

    by MadFuckingMax

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    i thought faggots were British cigarettes?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Don't like it..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..too recent. Too exposed. Are you sure you don't want another stab at my clue? I'm off to bed now - a very long and a very odd day. Any developments keep me posted on the step-back pedalback backtrack talkback. I will be back about 1:00am AICN time

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Is this the official continuation of pedalback?

    by anonymoose

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    You think

    by Subtitles_Off

    THIS is more exposed than a ten-year-old thread? Really?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    You wanted me to

    by Subtitles_Off

    multiply the position of The Departed by the position of Once Upon a Time, right?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    No, that's Fags...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ...faggotts are a tripe meatball<P>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)<P>see you guys tomorrow/later - thanks for everything today mate

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Thats just a fag.

    by MadFuckingMax

    Faggots are...<P>Well, I'm not really sure what they are but I had a laugh when a TV chef said he was cooking them.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    So, what do you blokes call

    by Subtitles_Off

    a bundle of sticks?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Official? Yes? No?

    by anonymoose

    Or is there going to be a schism?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Sticks?

    by MadFuckingMax

    a dyke.<P>Initially I made this as a joke, but i think it actual

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Three-way, moose

    by Subtitles_Off

    Nobody likes this place, I may just go back to 1631 and say FACK it.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    actually pertains to something.

    by MadFuckingMax

    My laptop is ceasing to post properly.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Mr George Kaplan has already

    by Subtitles_Off

    said he don't like it here. Max gets the deciding vote.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    I like 1631.

    by anonymoose

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Based on the article alone.

    by MadFuckingMax

    I opt for another, but I'll follow (or lead if need be) you lads to the ends of the earth.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Settled, then.

    by Subtitles_Off

    1631. that was the original plan anyway, and it 's due to go to #1 soon, after all.<P>See you there.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Unsettled.

    by Subtitles_Off

    1631 has been shut down. <P>Bread crumbs anybody?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    where to now?

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    42088

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Back here. For good.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Damn. You can never get back-pedalers to agree to anything!<P>Sorry, but I ain't hanging my dick out in no kiddie's room. That's how you end up with a nasty sign in your lawn.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    has that new apartment smell in here..

    by water_shit_anderson

    I miss 1631...but I'm sure this will be home in no time.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    sub--

    by Six Demon Bag

    didnt ACTUALLY mean magicians elephant..but something trivial like that...i feel like THAT guy now...awk-ward.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    This'll do for now

    by savagedave

    Gotta love that we got 1631 to the top though, as well as cracking 10k. Which I maintain Aquaf@g never did.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    I'm going to try out this new stove and make some eggs

    by water_shit_anderson

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Well, see, that's the thing...

    by Subtitles_Off

    Back-pedalers gotta learn to shit or get off the pot. So, we can backpedal and get back on the pot to shit.<P>I'm too old to be runnin' around hither and thither looking for you all.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Why did they shut down 1631?

    by Continentalop

    Fuck. There is rules to this place now?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Hang on, check out 41962

    by savagedave

    Lots of good stuff going on in there.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    i think i'm going to try out this new toilet and take a shit

    by water_shit_anderson

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    1631 got clamped-down.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I wonder what's behind the hang up against reviving old threads?<P>Maybe Harry's embarrassed that he wrote complimentary stuff about ARMAGEDDON?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    'Lop warned us against 41962

    by Subtitles_Off

    I think savagedave is itching to create some good old-fashioned havoc.<P>I would've been right there with him, back in the moviemack days.<P>I've mellowed.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    diarrhea

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's got a splash guard.<P>And a sidecar.<P>You know, for the mrs.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    savage, your list of upcoming live-blogs,

    by Subtitles_Off

    or potential live-blogs, whichever, has me salivating.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Armageddonback was cozy..

    by water_shit_anderson

    but now that you bring the sidecar to attention....I do remember its facilities were lacking.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    41962 is current?

    by savagedave

    Kind of. Only a few weeks old anyway. Its hardly been out the top ten.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    6DB

    by Subtitles_Off

    Ain't nothing more trivial than a fourth, fifth and sixth Spider-man movie.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Did we lose Cobra- -Kai?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Haven't seen him all day.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Potential

    by savagedave

    Entirely dependent on whats on TV.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Yeah i dont think he ever responded to the asimovlives

    by water_shit_anderson

    accusations.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    'Lop said

    by Subtitles_Off

    there were fucktards in the Twitchback, savagedave.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    It's all the professionals

    by savagedave

    What are we not cool enough?!

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Don't twist your knickers.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm just repeating what I heard.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Fair enough

    by savagedave

    Just yanking your crank. There's some good discussion going on in there, would be a worthy home. Anyways now I'm definately out. Later on all.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Yeah,

    by Subtitles_Off

    If I had any ties to The Baleback, I'd probably be at AIBN. I'll just bide my time here so Cheeses can find me.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    speaking of cool...

    by water_shit_anderson

    Gary Oldman told me he came up with the line "ice cold" from Andre 3000's "Hey Ya". <p> Even if he did....not that big of a line. Nothing to be that proud of.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Congrats on the AVATAR scoop, though

    by Subtitles_Off

    THAT was fan-FAKING-tastic.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    how hard would it be to make a pedalback site...

    by water_shit_anderson

    just a talkback on a page...never ending. <p> and somehow with hella fast refresh times.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    I dunno, diarrhea

    by Subtitles_Off

    You'd just need access to a large server, I imagine.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    And, I don't know how you'd attract new traffic.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    i suppose that might take the fun out of it.

    by water_shit_anderson

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    yeah thats true too

    by water_shit_anderson

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Maybe just an animated ticker

    by Subtitles_Off

    scrolling across the top, spreading useless pop culture knowledge and a never-ending thread beneath it.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    i'd want to know that useless knowledge

    by water_shit_anderson

    and speaking of traffic....are people having trouble finding this place or what?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Was Oldman the first to shake it like a polaroid picture?

    by Subtitles_Off

    I used to enjoy watching drunk chicks do that in bars.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    There's a reunion of Balebackers @ 41962

    by Subtitles_Off

    And we've become yesterday's news.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Why Balebackers would have to reunite here instead of AIBN

    by Subtitles_Off

    is unclear to me just yet.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    So, diarrhea,

    by Subtitles_Off

    what was your handle prior to your re-christening at the Wasted Sperm Andersonback?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 9:58 p.m. CST

    i havn't had a handle for years...

    by water_shit_anderson

    and the one i had way back then I forget. I used to be content to read, but something about pedalback made me want to contribute.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    Cool

    by Subtitles_Off

    You have contributed.<P>So has your wife.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Have you seen this shit about

    by Subtitles_Off

    US nutjobs carrying assault weapons to Obama events?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    haha!

    by water_shit_anderson

    if my wifes whoring helps pedalback then its fine with me! <p> welp i'm out of here for now. <p> Take it easy on my wife if you can...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    I try, but

    by Subtitles_Off

    I got a rep I have to uphold.<P>And I don't want her talking smack about me to anyone I know, you know?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    i have...

    by water_shit_anderson

    and its scares me. Between that and that pennsylvania freakjob who shot up the fitness center...i'm becoming a complete gun control advocate.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    well whatever you do to my wife....

    by water_shit_anderson

    bitch is sure to enjoy it.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Peaaace!

    by water_shit_anderson

    Cat <p> Potato <p> Golf!

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Gun control is only the first step.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Stupid control is even more important.<P>And, unlikely.<P>Sweet dreams of rat peckers and mashed potatoes, buddy.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Writer of Police Academy 7 hired to do PA 8-21

    by jawsfan

    Spidey 3 was a franchise-killing installment. It was SO BAD that I have pretty much lost any desire to see another installment.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Are we here or over there?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    This is the official?

    by anonymoose

    For reals?

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Here.

    by anonymoose

    It takes too long to refresh pedalback. Anywhere but there is fine.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Hold on...*SNOOOOOORT*

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You want some of this peruvian flake, Moose...Just a little left over from the party last night at Armaggedon's Bar and Grill...Their potato dacqueri's are great....

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Agreed, Moose....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    1631 was like Trans-warp drive after Oldman's Pedal powered engines...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Subs....You still up?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    No, thanks.

    by anonymoose

    I'll just have a Diet Pepsi.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST

    To each his own, brother...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Checked out 42071 and I like that place even better...But I'll probably get locked if we fuck with it...too old...nobody gettin' paid..

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    That place?

    by anonymoose

    We're in 42071.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Yes, Moose...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Yes, we are...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Just frrls weird to be in a Spiderman smelling room...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..as opposed to the way Batman just made the whole place a bouquet of roses...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Vote 'No' on Spidey. Vote 'Yes' on Evil Dead 4.

    by anonymoose

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST

    frrls...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    What tribbles do best...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Nice save.

    by anonymoose

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Cheeses Saves...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..He Shoots...HE SCORES...

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Subs

    by anonymoose

    Is going to be in recap hell tomorrow.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    And the evening is young for me...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Subs is kind of like Moses...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    He keeps leading us to the promised land.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Wandering for 40 years in the desert.

    by anonymoose

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST

    At least, its a dry heat...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Subs, I think you are mistaken

    by Continentalop

    I love Twitch, node 41962. I am there all the time. Besides the pedalback it is the ONLY other oasis amongst a sea of fucktards that is AICN.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, midnight CST

    I'm going to call it a night.

    by anonymoose

    Later, Cheeses. Good luck with the recap, Subs.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, midnight CST

    Actually, the only fucktard in 41962

    by Continentalop

    Might be me.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    But this place is good for now

    by Continentalop

    Might as well party here until the cops show up.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST

    'Lop...Earlier today you asked...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Question for the Spider-Man fans by Continentalop Aug 17th, 2009 03:21:22 AM <p>"If I was to ask you what are the most important stories in his comic book history, which ones would you list? What things happened in his personal life would you say were essential parts of Peter Parker's life, and which adventures, foes and battles did he have which you would say are the best things to ever happen to Spider-Man and had to part of a movie series? <p>That to me is how they should have made the Spider-Man series, and unfortunately they already fucked it up by screwing up the Death of Gwen Stacy and the Green Goblin AND the even fucked up the origin and story of a villain I don't like (Venom).<p>Now the question is what is left that they can still do?" <p>The clone saga.....full blone Jackal, Punisher, Gwen Stacy clone...<p>Wait...Guess that's fucked ,too...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Or, maybe...The Lizard and Kraven...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Which only makes sense...Kraven comes to town to hunt the spider and the Lizard...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Before I go...

    by anonymoose

    You guys need to catch up on your pussy massaging skills.<P> http://tinyurl.com/qowon2 <P> (SFW, I swear!)<P> I love you Conti, you are not, I repeat, NOT a fucktard.<P> Later.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Moose...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You link the STOOOOOOpedist shit....<p>That's why I ALWAYS check 'em out...<p>Mmmmm...Stuffed pussy massage...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:23 a.m. CST

    I'm thinking...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..that we should, henceforth, refer to this chaotic and traumatic time as...<p>The Crisis of Infinite Talkbacks...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Fuck...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    replace 'of' with 'on.'

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Cheeses, essential Spider-Man stories

    by Continentalop

    See it is hard for me to think of what is left when I see what they blew and how it connects with his major events. But if I had to make a list I would break it into two categories: <P> Things that effect his personal life - Peter Parker <P> And things that effect his super-hero life - Spider-Man <P>

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:33 a.m. CST

    The next Spidey story on film

    by finky089

    I think we all know it needs to involve the Lizard running amok, with Kraven brought in to hunt the Lizard, but sidetracked by hunting the Spider Man instead.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST

    Things that effect his personal life - Peter Parker

    by Continentalop

    Death of Uncle Ben <P> Gets a job at the Daily Bugle <P> Beats up Flash Thompson <P> Graduate from High School <P> Meets Gwen Stacy <P> Meets Harry Osborn <P> Meets MJ <P> Death of Captain Stacy <P> Harry becomes addicted to drugs <P> Choses Gwen over MJ <P> Death of Gwen <P> Proposes to MJ, she turns him down <P> Graduates from college <P> Meets Black Cat, starts dating her <P> Drops out of graduate school <P> Breaks up with Black Cat <P> Proposes and marries MJ <P> After that I lost interest in Spider-Man, but I guess you could add the death of Aunt May, her rebirth, the death of their child, etc. Stuff that never really sent me, he seems static now.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Okay...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    What affected Pete...Uncle ben's Death, Gwen's death, Sgt Stacey's death, Mary Jane, marrying Mary Jane, Gwen's clone reappearing....<p>What else?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Finky...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    EXACTLY!!!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Here's an Spidey 4 scenario I jotted down a few years ago

    by finky089

    Here’s my set-up for the next film: Dr. Curt Connors, who keeps a piece of the symbiote in Spidey 3 for study, will attempt to regrow his lost arm with a reptilian-derived serum. When his self-experiment goes wrong (as they always do in Spider-world), he changes into the Lizard. <p> While undergoing his transformation, Connors trashes his lab, freeing the piece of the Venom symbiote. The symbiote escapes the lab and finds a new host. As the new host melds with the black symbiote, it leaves behind a puddle of red goo- the Carnage symbiote, which bonds to a psycho criminal named Cletus Cassidy. <p> Meanwhile, JJ Jameson has hired Kraven the Hunter to come to NYC and hunt down the Lizard, whom the Bugle has branded “the Alligator in the sewer!” Spidey realizes his friend Connors is the Lizard and fights with Kraven to save him. Kraven brushes aside the Bugle’s publicity stunt to hunt a more “ultimate” prize- Spider-man. After escaping Kraven, Spidey clashes unexpectedly with Venom. Its new host has no animosity towards Spidey, but warns him to stay out of his way. He doesn’t; Venom and Spidey clash. <P> Meanwhile, Carnage goes on tear across New York. Venom and Carnage clash in an amazing effects battle of the symbiotes! Kraven catches Lizard while Spidey was busy with Venom. He doesn’t kill him b/c Connors’ wife has made it known her husband is the Lizard. Kraven, still thirsting for a kill gets wind of the Venom/Carnage battle and goes to hunt them down. <p> Meanwhile, Spidey helps Connors return to human form. Connors and Parker develop the soundwave amplifier to defeat the symbiotes. (Connors taking the role originally played by Reed Richards in the comics when Spidey first fought Venom.) <p> Spidey and Connors realize Venom is fighting against Carnage, but they use the soundwave amplifier against both men to remove the symbiotes from their hosts. Connors and Spidey return to the lab where- <p> Kraven, having tracked down Spidey. ambushes Spider-man. Connors frees the Venom symbiote and merges with it to help Spidey fight Kraven. Connors has both arms as the Venom symbiote. They beat Kraven. Spidey uses the soundwave amplifier to separate Connors and the symbiote and all is well again. Until… <p> Parker returns to Aunt May’s and finds HIS PARENTS waiting for him. <p> Spidey 5: Chameleon and Spider Slayers (No “clones” stuff, because that was a terrible, terrible idea in the comics. His parents are “spider slayers” in disguise. Chameleon has hired the man who built the Spider Slayers in order to expose Spider-man identity and kill him.)

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    I know it's bonkers and everybody hates Venom

    by finky089

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Oh, 'Lop...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You beat me to it...<p>Forgot about a lot of that...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST

    'Lop, does getting the cosmic apt Marvel powers count?

    by finky089

    not that I particularly enjoyed that ploy.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Finky...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I would pay to see that...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Finky...?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    The Cosmic Apt?<p>How many square feet and how much per month?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST

    I would So Move into a Cosmic Apt...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Things that effect his super-hero life - Spider-Man

    by Continentalop

    Ok, obviously there is a lot of overlap with this and the first list, and also you have to say any first appearance of a villain deserves to be on this list, but excluding that here goes: <P> Spider-Man's origin (duh) <P> The Sinister Six <P> The death of Frederick Fowsley <P> The Vulture comes out of retirement and faces his replacement (I know it doesn't seem big, but go back and look at the old comics to see how big of event it was) <p> The unmasking of the Green Goblin <P> The Death of the Green Goblin <P> Doc Oct almost marrying Aunt May (I hated this story but it plays a big part in his life, and should probably going under his personal life) <P> Harry becomes the Green Goblin <p> The Jackal and the Spider-Man clone <P> The return of the Burglar <P> Doc Oct's almost using a nuke on the city and then hunting down Black Cat and Spider-Man for revenge (my all time favorite story) <P> The Hobgoblin <P> The new costume is a symbiote <P> The death of Captain Stacy <P> Kraven's Last Hunt <P> Venom (along with Hobgoblin the only villain who's origin/first appearance should be on this list as a separate important event) <p> The Clone Saga, The Return of Norman Osborn, The Other, Brand New Day, none of that appeals to me. <p> To me these are the tent pole events, the stuff that his career is based around. I am not saying these are his best adventures - I excluded a lot of his best moments in my opinion - but the stuff that has a really big part in shaping his career and life right now. <P> Of course this is only my opinion and not a definitive list.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Oh, wait. This isn't 70's Spidey

    by finky089

    when he can fight The Dazzler? Or how about an early 80's Spidey when he can fight the sinister Hot Rod!<p> Eh, fucking typo. I meant CAPT Marvel. Fuck proofreading...even if it does fuck up my posts.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    and thanks for the compliment Cheeses

    by finky089

    I'd let Sony pay me to let you pay to see that movie! ; )

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST

    See, the Captain Universe is so iffy

    by Continentalop

    Because does it still affect him? I mean, people can say how does the death of Frederick Fosewell still effect Spider-Man, but I say it was that death that changed the tone of the comic book and the way they treated the Kingpin. <P> BTW, forgot the death of Ned Leeds and the return of the real Hobgoblin.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    alright kiddos

    by finky089

    until tomorrow! I wonder ho wlong they'll let BackpedalBack go? I guess it'll just peter out naturally now, huh?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Just Funnin', Finky....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Captain Marvel Rocked with his "Cosmic Awarness." <p>I love Jim Starlin...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    ps- good call 'Lop

    by finky089

    will ponder that as I drift off into slumberland

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:53 a.m. CST

    s'all good Cheeses

    by finky089

    may all your posts be "gouda"

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:55 a.m. CST

    finky089 I love Kraven and Lizard

    by Continentalop

    But I hate Venom and Carnage. I am sorry, I will never warm to those two, especially Carnage. He just seems like a plot device to me, no character. Sorry. <P> Otherwise I love the idea except in part 5 you also have to add the Scorpion (see my discussion with TedKordLives for the reasons why).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:55 a.m. CST

    'Lop...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Wow...that brings back memories...<p>Way back in '75, my older cousin, who collected Spiderman from #3 and all team-ups and all spin-offs, let me take them home over Christmas break from school and I read every single one of them...<p>What a tale...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST

    The Scorpion rocks...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I am a big Spidey-fan

    by Continentalop

    Used to collect everything he was in, and then when I got older I just went out and bought all the Master Works, then Essentials and finally just got the DVDs with all the comics on them.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Maybe Kraven comes to hunt...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Spiderman, the Lizard, the Vulture, The Scorpion, The Rhino and the Beetle all in one vacation trip...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1 a.m. CST

    Was it more Peter or Spiderman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Who was affected the most by Doc Ock sexing up Aunt May?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Favorite Spiderman tale...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    1978 or so...Spderman, Lizard and Stegron battle and there are 'Night at the Museum' level dino skeletons running amok...<p>I read that one in algebra class...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I like all the old villains, especially the "second-tier"

    by Continentalop

    For lack of a better term. And i am always stunned that the so-called Spider-Man fans don't want to see some of those guys in a movie. Take the Vulture for instance - yes, not Spider-Man's most dangerous foe, but still a great foe when you look at what he represents. And you have a dead-ringer like Ben Kingsley willing to play him (he read for the Vulture in part 3 before they decided to axe him for Venom). He is a perfect match. Just don't have him be the only villain, but Vulture would be awesome because he actually has motivation and character for a villain. <P> I also want to see Brock Lesnar play the fucking Rhino. Maybe just for a James Bond like cliffhanger, but he looks just like the mother-fucking Rhino.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Yes. Stegron, one of my favorite bad Spider-Man foes

    by Continentalop

    Something about the 70s ones that was so funky. Tarantula, Lightmaster, Rocket Racer, Swarm (technically appeared in Champions first, I know), Punisher, Jackal, Grizzly, Carrion, etc. <P> All of those guys were just funky and so unlike his 60s foes. <P> Almost forgot Hypno-Hustler, but I think he actually appeared in the 80s (I could be wrong).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST

    Right On , 'Lop....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Rhino would look so cool on screen...<p>Maybe they should save him for a Hulk Sequel...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:09 a.m. CST

    Don't forget..

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..the Rocket Racer...<p>The Grizzly and Razorback...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:09 a.m. CST

    And the Gibbon...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Mindworm...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Sorry,...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You said Rocket Racer, and Grizzly...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Tarantula...Forgot about him...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    He was the villian of the first issue of 'Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spiderman.'

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    You can never say them enough Cheeses

    by Continentalop

    But I would add Arcade because he first appeared in Marvel Team Up. <P> In fact, why did they have Arcade forget about his grudge against Spider-Man? I loved in the X-Men issue when Spider-Man calls Xavier Mansion and Arcade answers and tells him that after he is done killing the X-Men he will be gunning for Webhead next. <P> Loved that.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I think Wil O' Wisp first appeared in the 70s as well

    by Continentalop

    And so did Black Cat.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I'm going to the gym

    by Continentalop

    Be back in an hour.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:17 a.m. CST

    41962...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..is the most recent in a long line of Eye Candy TBs that a lot of the old schoolers use to hang out and stay in touch. They are usually filled with good stuff but can get a little edgy when the Cricket is one. Nice lads. For some reason I can't login here on my work PC today. I'm going to try and troubleshoot but if the IP is being blocked I may not be around much today. You lot still rock though....

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST

    "I'm Going to the Gym..."

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Sorry, is that code for something on the 'net?<p>You west coast or Hawaii zone?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:22 a.m. CST

    Mr. Kaplan...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Your post posted just fine...<p>Welcome,...<p>I got one big line of this peruvian blow left....Wanna split?<p>It'll help you thru the daaaaay....

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Mr. Kaplan...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Who is Cricket? And, why is he an edgy one?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    I'm posting...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..from my iPhone and although it is friggin' sweet and all doing para breaks is a pain. It's also not easy keeping up the pretence of being hard at work if I'm seen hunched over my phone all day. Though it does make snorting virtual lines easier so thanks Cheeses!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Enjoy, Mr. Kap...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Hook up when you get clear...You are always welcome...<p>I'm prob'lly gonna call it a night soon...<p>Not feeling my usual self today...<p>Probably from all the Virtual Cocaine Abuse... <p>VCA is nothing to sneeze about...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Nytol....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    No...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Can't...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Sleep...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Until...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:02 a.m. CST

    We...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Pass...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST

    The...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Beaks...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Basterds...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:05 a.m. CST

    "Bear Jews"...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Talkback...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Now that THAT is done...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..Thank you everyone, and good night....

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST

    I'M BACK BABY!

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    You'd better watch out mixing your uppers and downers like that (virtual or not) Cheeses - I'd hate you to lose what grip you do have left on reality! Get some good sleep and I'll see you soon.<P>My early diagnosis of my login problems does indicate my usual work IP is being blocked but being in IT I have a few tricks left up my sleeve....<P>As McManus says "There is nothing that can't be done..."<P>My workaround might not work for long so I want to thank moose, lops, cheeses, WSA, conti, 6DB and, of course, the mackster himself Subtitles_Off for getting us nice and settled here. Still no sign of Cobra - I don't think he has been banned as his posts still appear but he may be having the same issues as me logging on. If you are reading this Kai try using a phantom proxy or finding another computer!<P>And good luck Subs trying to recap the last, and frankly bizarre, 24 hours. I know you will do a fine job though..

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Kap...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You're back...<p>I was just bullshitting about going to bed...<p>I have hyper-insomnia. the last time I slept was July 4th, 1976...,p.Once every 200 years is good enough for me...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Monday

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    Humiliation

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Tuesday

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    Suffocation

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Wednesday

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    Condescension

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Thursday

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    is pathetic

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:20 a.m. CST

    By Friday...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..life has killed me

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Cheese I'm on the Left Coast

    by Continentalop

    And it is still official - I am still way to out of shape.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Oh great...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..it's good you are still about but always embarrasing when someone hear's you singing to yourself when you think you are alone!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST

    How was Jim Lop?

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    FEEL THE BURN! YEAH!<P>At least you are trying Conti - getting off your arse and making the effort is supposedly the hardest part. For me it was always waking up feeling like I'd gone 10 rounds with Tyson but that IS what they say...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Try what I do...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Mon...one joint.<p>Tue...Two.<p>Wed...Three.<p>Thu...Four.<p>Friday...Coke and hookers and Crown and Red Bull.<p>Sat...more of the same, just all day.<p>Sun...Football...and more of the same...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST

    No Kaplan, the hardest part is not getting hard

    by Continentalop

    I live in Hollywood so I have a lot of actresses go to my gym. It is hard to work on when you got hot girls in skimpy tights and suggestive poses. <P> Luckily I posses a will of iron, and coke and whisky dick.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Exercise...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Will make you live longer...<p>Who wants that?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Not me...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..that's for sure...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:32 a.m. CST

    The Cheeses plan...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..has certainly got a lot going for it. I'm glad you find time on Monday to take it easy....<P>Have you thought of giving self-help seminars or writing a book to share your path to happyness? Maybe an instructional DVD showing just how to roll the perfect cone in one hand while chopping lines with the other. With a brass on your lap.<P>I can picture it now - on stage with a headset in front of 10,000 people booming that if they are having difficulty feeling their legs by Sunday morning THEY JUST DON'T WANT IT HARD ENOUGH!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:35 a.m. CST

    BTW, RE=Inglorious Basterd, Thanks QT

    by Continentalop

    You just made me want to root for Hitler. Fucking great. Ugh.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:36 a.m. CST

    I'm here to tell you right now...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    One Spliff in the morning and one in the afternoon, followed by several bong hits at mid-evening...<p>And, maybe one or two at twilight...<p>Can make those embarrising zit marks disappear OVERNIGHT...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:38 a.m. CST

    My Dad may be the God of Milk...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    But my Uncle is Ron Popeel, the pocket fisherman...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Continentalop..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..I would get my arse banned from every LA Fitness in town. Coming from such a deeply, deeply ugly country I would be like a kid in a sweetshop (candystore).<P>Plus my problem with gyms has always been boredom so I could really see that helping my motivation and taking my mind off the dull trudgery that is running on a treadmill!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:44 a.m. CST

    When I USED to go to the Gym...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I always brought my dvd's of 'Girls Gone Wild' for motivation...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Kaplan, I actually watch TV when I am on the treadmill

    by Continentalop

    I go twice a day during the weekdays. Morning is for lifting and seeing my trainer (3 times a week; I know him so I get a big discount), and at night I work out another half-hour so my metabolism is high when I go to bed. I live a pretty sedentary life during the week days so I try to get a pretty intensive workout during the day. Otherwise I am just sitting at a desk and a computer, watching TV, reading a book or sitting through a movie (I don't have many active hobbies except for maybe martial arts which I have to get back into). <p> But when I am on the treadmill I watch the TV that is in front of it. That is why I try to time my gym visits right when the Simpsons are on or else the news, or watch CNN Headline. I feel I am killing two birds with one stone (plus I listen to podcast when I run).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST

    "Lop...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    That's what I call multi-tasking...<p>Exercise, Simpsons and/or news, and oogling hot starlets' asses...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:55 a.m. CST

    ALL AT THE SAME TIME...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Plus...PODCAST LISTENING...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST

    All you need....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Is a Peruvian bump whistle and you are GOOD TO GO...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3 a.m. CST

    When I run I don't watch starlet's asses

    by Continentalop

    I did that once and nearly fucking slipped off the damn treadmill. I realize then that I have to keep my eye on the prize. <P>

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3 a.m. CST

    Peruvian Bump Whistles...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Not availible without perscription...<p>Sorry I brought them up...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:05 a.m. CST

    But, 'Lop...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Your admitted 'prize' is a hard member...<p>"The hardest part is not getting hard."<p>Or, am I projecting my own interpretation onto your words...?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:08 a.m. CST

    No you are right Cheeses

    by Continentalop

    But I was being a little glib. <P> Plus, remember I said I had a will of iron. Part of that iron will is not turn my head and look at the hot chicks ass running next to me or in front of me.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:08 a.m. CST

    I should probably crash...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Comedy Central is playing EXTENZ infomercials, with the fabulous Frazaaa, or whatever her cock hungry name is...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Love her hair and tits though...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Good night Cheeses

    by Continentalop

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:11 a.m. CST

    'Lop...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Feel free to look...<p>That's why SHE'S there....She want's to be Oogled...<p>It reinforces her self image, or somthing...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Clock me out at 3:12 am CST...<p>Nytol...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:37 a.m. CST

    I could see the Simpson's helping make..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..it worthwhile. Whenever I was at the gym it was always the Jerry Springer Show or Jeremy Kyle. Its like 'Great - now I'm bored AND hoping that most of humanity gets wiped out'<P>I take it from the sedantry lifestyle you are a creative type maybe? I've picked up some hints in the past that you are involved in making films at some level - anything I would have heard of?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Kaplan

    by Continentalop

    I mostly work as an editor - online and offline. Offline I have done mostly b-movies (especially in the 90s) and some independent movies. I have also worked on reality TV and commercials. <p> As an online editor I have worked on some movies, mostly independents again, TV shows and a lot of trailers. <P> Besides that I do a lot of other stuff in post production. Most recent thing I have worked on that is coming out is Black Dynamite and some Total Gym ads (with Chuck Norris!). <p>

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Black Dynamite..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..looks fuckin' A. Will try and check it out - thanks for the reply!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:13 a.m. CST

    10 Things They Really Fucked Up In The Spider-Man Movies

    by Continentalop

    Kind of like my Star Wars Prequel list, but just associated with bad creative choices and character decisions. This list would be huge if we included casting decisions, plot/script and what not. <P> So here goes, from least annoying to most annoying fuck ups:

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:14 a.m. CST

    What? No more Brits made it..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ...to 42071 yet? Did you meet Chuck himself Conti?<P>If I knew I was meeting the guy who kicked Bruce Lee's arse I would definitely be hitting the gym hard. I'd worry that otherwise he would look straight through me like glass and I would have to crawl away and die of shame.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Come on then Conti - start the list!

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:17 a.m. CST

    10. The Titles of the Movies

    by Continentalop

    Spider-Man 2? Spider-Man 3? Spider-Man 4, 5 & 6? How fucking unoriginal. Everyone should have realized how much they would have pussed out on the series when they decided no to label the sequels Amazing Spider-Man and Spectacular Spider-Man and instead went with such generic crap and Spider-Man 2 an 3. If Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and James Bond can have individual titles, so can fucking Spider-Man.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:23 a.m. CST

    9. Spider-Man's Web-shooters and Costume

    by Continentalop

    Ok, not a huge complain so that is why it comes in at number two. But by removing Spidey's mechanical webshooters you robbed something from Spider-Man's personality - his intelligence. Does Spider-Man ever out THINK his opponents in the movies? No, he just out fights them or tricks them or has some one come to his rescue. You never see him using his intelligence to solve a problem by using science or knowledge. The web-shooters were symbols of that intelligence, and any kid who can make those can also scientifically think his way out of a lot of problems (just like Spidey can). <P> Plus, how is artificial web-shooters hard to buy but every one was able to suspend disbelief that he was able to construct a $50,000 rubber Spider-Man costume all on his own using his Aunt May's sewing equipment? That costume is fucking advanced and harder to buy that a science nerd could make that but can't make a web-shooter. <P> As for how he should of got his costume, why didn't they have him try to get into show business like in the comics? That way it was his agent who forked over the cash and had someone make his costume. A lot more believable to me.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:29 a.m. CST

    8. Graduated from High School Way to Soon

    by Continentalop

    I am still trying to figure out why he had to graduate from High School halfway through the first movie. I mean, it is the story of a young man learning about being an adult and having a moral code ("With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility"), what better place for that story to take place then in High School were kids still act stupid and not considered adults yet. Hell, the act of graduation is the best metaphor for the process of turning from a child into an adult - you show that after he defeats a super-villain and we all understand he has come into his own. <P> Plus it robs the movie of such characters as Flash Thompson and Liz Allen. Liz isn't that important, but Flash is one of the best things ever in Spider-Man mythos. Peter Parker's bully as well as being Spider-Man's biggest fan. The guy isn't as one-dimensional as Raimi showed him (hell, he comes back a damaged vet and becomes one of Peter's best friends). <P> First movie should have taken completely in high school.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:36 a.m. CST

    7. Mary Jane Watson

    by Continentalop

    Ok, I am not even going to go into wether or not Dunst was a bad acting choice or not. I am just going to point out a couple of flaws in how they depicted her. <P> First off, I think it was a mistake have her be a classmate of Peter's right from the beginning. Not only does it rob us of an adaptation of how she was introduced in the comic (not only the "Face it, you hit the jackpot line" but also the way they kept her hidden before she finally met Peter), but it also reduces her to the oldest cliche in the books - the girl someone grew up with. And guess what, those ARE NOT the girls you are supposed to end up with in fiction. That is why Clark Kent ISN'T going to end up with Lois - been there, done that. <P> Plus isn't it just pathetic to cater to the dump fantasy of being able to win over the girl you have a crush on? The comics actually had the balls to be more mature than that, they had Peter have a crush on high school hottie and stuck up bitch Liz Allen but never get her, instead dating Betty Brant and later Mary Jane & Gwen. <P> Why not have Liz Allen as the girl Peter has a crush on in the first movie but he quickly loses interest in her when his Aunt introduces him to his neighbor's niece, MJ. The new girl is always more interesting (just ask John Cusack in BETTER OFF DEAD).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:47 a.m. CST

    6. Sandman & the Burglar

    by Continentalop

    Ok, this problem is connected so I decided to list it together. First off Spider-Man kills the Burglar in Spider-Man 1, which goes against everything Spider-Man is about - not killing. Sure he didn't cold-blooded murder him, but he did help instigate his death. Such an act wouldn't inspire him to become a crime-fighter, it would inspire not to use his powers because he isn't responsible enough to handle them. <P> Secondly, Sandman is really Uncle Ben's killer? OK, besides the fact that this is completely out of left field, it creates another problem - not only is Spider-Man indirectly responsible for the death of the burglar, he also accidentally killed a INNOCENT MAN! <P> Fuck. The Spider-Man I know from the comics would turn himself in because he knows he committed a crime. He acted as judge and jury and unintentional executioner. There is no way Spider-Man/Parker would be be able to sleep knowing that he was responsible for killing a man who was innocent of killing his Uncle. You know, "WIth great power, etc...." <p> The other problem is with Sandman is a reluctant criminal. He was doing it for his kid. Is there any criminals (besides apparently robbers) who aren't victim's of circumstance? Norman was driven insane by the goblin formula, Doc Oct is controlled by his tentacles, Eddie Brock is being influenced by the Symbiote...is there anyone who is actually responsible for what he does? Because if Spider-Man is someone who understands that there is responsibility with great powers, the villains should be people who think great powers bring opportunity. That is how a theme is supposed to fucking work.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:54 a.m. CST

    5. Venom

    by Continentalop

    Actually I don't like Venom. But if you are going to do him do him right. And that means you can't rush him. He is a character built by preceding events. <P> In the comics, Venom was created after Spidey got the symbiote in Secret Wars, rejected it and it bonded with Eddie Brock, a reporter who hated Spider-Man because he blamed him for his problems. So you have a lot of info you have to give to the audience, and if you rush it makes him seem stupid (much stupider than I think he is). <P> Why not introduce the suit in one movie and Eddie Brock, and then in the second movie he becomes Venom? Or maybe have the story play out in three movies, huh? Wouldn't that be smarter? <P> Of course, I have a theory that they rushed Venom because Avi Arad wanted to do a Venom spinoff and thought "we'll have him in one movie, do a spin-off right away and have another big franchise." This is known as counting your super-heroes before they get popular. <P> Side Note: Why the fuck have the suit just land in a meteor? How lazy. You have a fucking astronaut already introduced, John Jameson, so why not say he came down with the suit after his last trip into space? That makes a hell of a lot more sense and is much more plausible than just having the thing land near Peter (plus it gives another reason for JJ to hate Spidey, thinking he stole it to rob his son of his thunder).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:02 a.m. CST

    4. Harry Osborn

    by Continentalop

    Ok, first off I have already said Peter should have only been in HS the first movie. Second thing is, Peter should have met Harry in college. WTF is a rich kid doing in a public school? His dad is a billionaire. The thing about him getting kicked out of private schools seems like such bs and just a lame explanation - when does Harry seem like that big of trouble-maker? And for smart kids who go off to college, their college buddies are their friends for life, not their high school friends (Just as Bill Gates or the guys from Google). <P> And I won't even get into his appearance as the New Goblin - that was just a lame way to get Franco to exit the series. I will bring up something else though - why didn't they have Harry develop a drug problem? That was one of the most interesting things they ever did with the character and it added extra dimensions with him (although his drug addiction to LSD was ridiculous; pills or coke or H would have been better). They should have made Harry a junkie. <P> And now with him dead it robs the world of an interesting Hobgoblin story line (I never would have made him the Hobgoblin, but one of the great things about Hobby is he is the return of a legacy of evil, and that effects Norman's son as well as Spider-Man).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:12 a.m. CST

    3. Gwen Stacy and Captain Stacy

    by Continentalop

    Now we are getting to the bigger fuck ups. The way they have handled the Stacys is a pretty big mess. <p> Raimi has not treated Gwen as a legitimate love interest for Peter - we all know that as long as MJ is around she is the first choice. So what kind of love triangle is this? And if they decide to bump off Gwen in a future movie it will hold no real emotional weight - MJ is his true love interest. <P> The funny thing is if they tried to do the opposite and kill MJ, it also wouldn't have any weight or significance because Raimi has spent the audiences interest in Mj by now. Fans are sick of her and want her to die. Killing her would be just a way to get her off stage and would hold no poignant meaning. <p> And besides the great love triangle between Peter and MJ in the comic, the other great thing about Gwen was that the opposite of Lois Lane. Lois loved Superman but hated Clark; Gwen loves Peter but hates Spider-Man (especially when she blamed him for her father's death). It was one of the great dilemma's in his comic book career - choose between the girl he loves or fulfilling his responsibilities. Fucking genius. <P> And while Captain Stacy hasn't been fucked up that bad, by not having Gwen be a more significant person in Peter's life if they ever chose to have him die it won't be as powerful as it was in the comic books (like I said above, Gwen has to love Peter and hate Spider-Man - what does he care if she hates Spider-Man when he has MJ around?).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:24 a.m. CST

    2. Norman Osborn/The Green Goblin

    by Continentalop

    There is a number of problems with the Goblin, so let me make another list: <P> A) His costume: WTF were they thinking? He looks like a damn Power Ranger. Someone else said that the Green Goblin's costume is just as iconic as Spider-Man's; well that is a little bit of hyperbole but I will say he has a memorable costume. I'm not saying you have to duplicate it perfectly, but could you have added some purple into his costume, and maybe give him a tunic or something to add some spice. And give him a new mask. You want a rational for why he is dressed up this way, see below. <P> B) His modus operandi: The Green Goblin in the comics used weapons shaped and designed to resemble Halloween decorations and gimmicks. That is why he rode on a giant bat, throw pumpkins and wore a green mask. So maybe you should keep all of that by having him do stuff like pant jack o' lantern faces on his grenades, design gas bombs that look like ghost and repaint his glider so it looks like a giant bat. And if you want an explanation for why he is doing this, maybe have his transformation into the Green Goblin happen on Halloween. After killing Stromm or whomever, he is stumbling through Greenwich village, running into people in costumes until he finally stumbles upon a Halloween shop. It might not be a deep motivation, but at least it is motivation. <P> C) Legacy of evil. Sure Norman has fucked up his son Harry and left behind weapons and a Goblin formula, but imagine if he had killed someone close to Peter? Whenever a new Goblin appeared (or Hobgoblin) Peter would always have to worry that person might kill another loved one of his. I hate to get dramatic, but the sight of anything doing with the Green Goblin would be like a Swastika to a jew - a reminder of the worse thing that ever happened to them. Instead the Green Goblin is a reminder of a really bad inconvenience.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:35 a.m. CST

    1. Death of Gwen Stacy

    by Continentalop

    I know I mentioned this a couple of times earlier, but this is the single biggest fuck up in this series. By doing the death of Gwen Stacy story line but not actually doing it has created a huge fucking vacuum in the entire franchise and i can't see how they will ever get around it. <P> That story is probably the most important Spidey Story ever (excluding his origin) and now it will never be adapted. Sure they might try to come up with a replacement story but it won't be as good as that (for reasons I listed above) plus as a die-hard Spider-Man fan I want to see them adapt that specific story. It is like saying you are a fan of Lord of the Rings but you don't want to see Gollum fall into Mount Doom with the Ring. <P> Also, I view the Death of Gwen Stacy as the support beam/column that would hold up this franchise. You could spend two or three movies getting to this point (introducing Gwen, the Gwen/MJ/Peter love triangle, the Death of Captain Stacy, Peter choosing Gwen, etc.) and after this you have enough material for two or three more movies (Peter recovering from Gwen's death, the Hobgoblin or a new Green Goblin appears, etc.). <p> And like I said about the Legacy of Evil under the Green Goblin, without the Death of Gwen Stacy who rob the sense of danger of dread when a new Goblin character appears. I mean, don't you think audience would be on the edge of their seats if the Hobgoblin had kidnapped MJ and took her to the same bridge that Gwen died at, and tossed her off. Would fate repeat itself or would Spidey save his love this time? Can't be done now thanks to someone's stupidity. <p> Ever since the first Spider-Man movie when they butchered this story line I have thought this franchise dead.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:49 a.m. CST

    And with that insane rant I am going to bed

    by Continentalop

    I could have added my problems with Doc Oct and other problems in the movies, but they are minor compared to what i mentioned. And it is late. <P> Kaplan, if you are out there, good night (and no, I never met Chuck but I did get a free Total Gym).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Great list Conti..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..point 6 expecially pertinent. Why is it that every villain nowadays has to be a good person turned bad through circumstance? What the hell is wrong with a dyed-in-the-wool bad egg who just sees what they want and takes it? Believe it or not these people DO exist in the world.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:53 a.m. CST

    Good night Continentalop....

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ...you are wrong about point 9 though. Hee hee hee :-)

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:55 a.m. CST

    But points...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..10,8,7,4 and 2 are on the money. I'm not that much of a Spidey fan to comment on the others.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:02 a.m. CST

    If no one shows up soon...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..I am going to start singing again - you have all been warmed. In fact my singing is so terrible I am almost hoping EVERYONE's IP is blocked so NO-ONE can stop me! Mwa ha haaaa.....

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:02 a.m. CST

    There's a lady who's sure....

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    only kidding

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:04 a.m. CST

    what up gents..good morning..

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Right - that does it....

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..for my own personal amusement and your own considerable displeasure I give you my interpretaion of Josh Wink's techno classic 'Higher State Of Consciousness' (Original Tweekin' Acid Funk Edit)<P>Ahem<P>Badda-boom, bak-buk-bak, Badda-boom, bak-buk-bak, Badda-boom, bak-buk-bak,Badda-boom, bak-buk-bak, Badda-boom, bak-buk-bak, Badda-boom, bak-buk-bak, AAAAAAAAAHHHHIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHEEEEEEERRRRRRRR SSSSTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTEEEEE OOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF CCCCCOOOOONNNNNSSSSSSCCCCCCIIIIOOOOOOUUUUUSSSSSSSNNNNNEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS, BADDA_BOOM, BAK-BUK-BAK, BADDA_BOOM, BAK-BUK-BAK, BADDA_BOOM, BAK-BUK-BAK, BADDA_BOOM, BAK-BUK-BAK - <P>Oh hi 6DB! Cheeses left me a mountain of virtual marching powder to finish off and I'm off my tits.<P>I'll come down now your here

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Hope you are well..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..its been a bit quiet here - I was wondering if anyone else has had issues logging in today.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Conti and Cheeses..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..have gone to bed. AAnd my forst typo of the day was a 'your' instead of 'you're' - hows things with you?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:24 a.m. CST

    nope but 41811 remains my home

    by savagedave

    HYDRA, later on.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to that SD...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    I won't post there in case I drain valuable talk-back space - I hope this mystical limit thats been theorised doesn't kick in half way through your blog

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST

    if it does i'll jump in here

    by savagedave

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:39 a.m. CST

    I have the chance to see GI Joe..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..this afternoon - I've seen Moon and Mesrine pt1 in the last week so could use some cheesey drivel to restore balance.<P>I am in two minds - I am laying off the smoke for a while (I might have a medical coming up) and my girlfriends out of town. The pubs right out as I have a stack of forms to fill out for my Singapore job that really need doing (sober).<P>Should I see it?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:51 a.m. CST

    I mean.....

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ...I firmly believe that you only regret the things you DON'T do in life and that by watching the damm thing I'll have earned the right o put forth an INFORMED opinion - goog or bad.<P>Then there's the fact that Sienna Miller is in it and she is hot.<P>But then again it does mean I'll have contributed to its success in some small way and condoned its creation. tough one.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:51 a.m. CST

    I'm going to have to say #9 is the worst offender

    by just pillow talk

    and here's why:<p>Conti, you are absolutely right, Pete always used his smarts (being a wiz at science) to defeat his enemies, especially in the beginning of the comics. Like when he used rubber gloves to fight Electro, and didn't he vacuum up the Sandman the first time he fought him? Sure, it sounds silly, but at least he was thinking about his enemies' weaknesses. <p>And while it does make sense that he would develop organic web shooters, he does rob yet another instance of showing Pete use his noggin. <p>That, and the constant banter he did to keep himself from being scared, those core attributes are lacking in the movie. Essentially: who Spiderman was, plus the never-quit attitude. If you had those in place, it would have partially offset any other major issues within the movies, and made the movies more palatable. <p>That said, I did enjoy the second movie.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Damm typos

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    They are an unfortunate side-effect of my IP Block workaround but they do manage to make me look stoopider than usual...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Point 9 JPT..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..I don't think mechanical webshooters would solve the problems of Spidey's characterisation as compared to the books. Raimi did make references to his intelligence and there was a small bit of banter between him an GG but if it didn't show enough then that is a problem with the script - not whether his webs were organic or not.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:04 a.m. CST

    More smarts would be a good thing though..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..it would emphasize how much Spiderman the hero was Peter Parker and NOT just the powers.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:09 a.m. CST

    And organic webshooters..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..seemed to flow very naturally after seeing the wall climbing and the spidey sense introduced. It wasn't as if they came out of nowhere - a lot of insects make silk but Spiders are known for their webs. Infact, thinking about it, if there were no webs what abilities does he have that are exclusive to spiders - he could just call himself Blue-bottle Boy<P>Except for the fact that he was bitten on the arse by a spider of course.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Mr K....

    by just pillow talk

    No, I don't think it solves the character issues at all, nor did I say it was the main reason, but just another piece to the puzzle in helping get closer to what he should be in the movies. <p>And yes, you are right, there was some banter directed at the Goblin, but it just wasn't the same. Add to the fact that I always hated Tobey in the role, and he didn't come off to be as 'right'.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Which leads us both to point 8

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    Tobey Macguire beeing too old to pass as a high-schooler meant that any chance of Flash being involved was right out - I think, like Conti, that TM is a great actor but I think the decision to cast him was probably made above and beyond any consideration about how to characterise PP in the films and Raimi just had to lump it.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Well that shuts me up..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..just checked IMDB and casting TM was Raimi's idea. It looks as well like other actors considered were all too old to play high-schoolers. Carry on.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    conti

    by Six Demon Bag

    all good points about Spidey...i dont know why writers and studios and directors cant have a game plan when they decide to tackle franchises (loved ones at that). jackson did it perfectly with RINGS...he directed them all in one chunk but even if he didnt do that, he had all the scripts at least.<P>have an outline of where this is going...therefore you dont overload your films with villians, they seem consistent, and there is an end game. it doesnt look like a cash grab with each successive film, and they wont seem aimless.<P>gwen stacy wouldve been a great 4th film had they done it your way..<P>1-high school. <P>2-early life meet gwen <P>3-whatever<P>4-death of gwen<P>5-trauma from death<P>6-enter MJ<P>7-whatever<P>8-whatever..thats 8 films..instead of 2.5

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Crisis on Infinite Talkbacks

    by Subtitles_Off

    <P>One day after sailing past Island 10K on the way to Island 1631, our luckless pirate schooner, with its crew inflamed by the combined passions of hubris and indecision, assaulted with confusion and blinded by the promise of siren titty, crashed into a giant rock. The survivors tried to make a go of it but were eaten by a ravenous two-headed beast of a Talkbackasaurus – just like a T-Rex only with the longer, less limp-wristed arms of Peter Jackson's V-Rex, greener teeth, three tails and voracious sexual appetites that made the rat-catcher's memories of his own wench pale. They made a movie of it. savagedave will be live-blooging it at some point, one hopes. <P>Meanwhile, in 1631... <P>A search of the archives revealed the founders of The Back-pedalback. Not the firsties, mind, but the members of the gang that fed the beast to the end and the order of their arrival: 6DB, Series7, Continentalop, Subtitles_Off and Stabby. Those five numbwits could never have done squat by themselves, so researchers are still trying to document the arrivals of the others. <P>Robert Novak is fucking dead. Good. Hell has his bed waiting. <P>We realized we lost two comrades. Two fellows died fighting the good fight. They are memorialized with a monument at The Baleback, Node 39976. Pay your respects in alcohol and women's under-garments. For Youngdog and GE, with tears in my eyes. <P>Youngdog was banhammered, as far as can be determined, because he was blamed for resurrecting an old thread. To banhammer the point home, The AuthoriTAY, installed a heavy gate at 1631 at 5:21:14 p.m., locking it forever. (Not before the assembled Backpedalers, including two newbies – Mr_George_Kaplan and MadFuckingMax, each with a familiar sense of humor and a righteous bone to pick - engaged in a furious and funny True Confessions session involving the exposure of former handles, previous bannings and a discussion of the many definitions of the word “faggot.) <P>GE was banned for shoving a mirror in the face of a Moderator and forcing him to look at how fat and ugly he truly was. <P>Meanwhile, in 41811, the original Home of Backpedalers... <P>The Grand Reopening and Homecoming of Limbo Posts. <P>A salute from Aquaf@g whose minions claim to have seen the fabled island 20K. You know how minions tend to exaggerate, though, so there's that to consider. <P>The theory that is currently being tested suggests that the banhammer, which did not reduce our tally but obliterated the posts of Youngie and GE, opened up a number of post slots equal to the subtracted ones. <P>6DB and savagedave have volunteered to maintain the fires, there. We will visit them frequently. One, we don't want 6DB to feel lonesome. He is Our First Founder and Keeper of The 10K Post. And, if left on his own, he might become lost in an endless loop of lousy Michael Jackson songs, shamone. <P>Two, we don't want to miss another live-blog, and, according to savagedave, 41811 is the Official, Exclusive Home of Live-blogs. To prove it, he live-blogged CHUPACABRA: DARK SEAS with a brief assist from water_shit. <P>Meanwhile, at 41962, there was a reunion of The Original Balebackers, which seduced many of our merry fickle band for the evening. I had mis-read a post from 'Lop thinking he had complained about the number of fucktards at that thread, when, in fact, he had stated that he had run into fucktards everywhere upon LEAVING that thread. Whichever, I declined to visit because either way, 'Lop implied I was a fucktard. Or would be. Confusion! Seriously, keep an eye out and see what becomes of 41962. You might run into Stuntcock or Snowcone or Hawaiian Organ Donor, the AIBN men. If you haven't seen Aint It Bale News' exclusive scoop of the new AVATAR trailer, I will excuse you from this recap momentarily, so that you may. <P>A couple more moments. <P>Amazing innit? <P>Meanwhile, the merry band is scattered. Knowing that hiding in an abandoned thread is no longer viable and would probably cost another of our family, I suggested we adjourn to Node #42071. For some reason, no one wants to listen to me. Mr. George and Max give it a go but complain about the neighborhood. 6DB suggests we hide somewhere irrelevant and then suggests a thread based on a kiddie book. Well, I refuse to hang my dick out at a children's playground so I hightail it back to... <P>42071... <P>Good thing, too, because that's were anonymoose and Cheeses threw a party with leftovers and Diet Pepsi. <P>Being a Spidermanback originally, the attendees at 42071, including finky [winky @ finky] and 'Lop, discussed Spidey in comics and films. A conversation reminiscent of the Batman discussions we had three weeks ago to kick-start our journey. My balls were warmed with nostalgia this morn, reading their discussion, even though I have zero interest in Spider-man because Batman kicks hiss scrawny ass. <P>'Lop listed Ten Biggest Problems With the Spidey Films and confessed to editing Chuck Norris Total Gym ads. Oddly, he didn't mention editing Christie Brinkley's unaging cans. Chuck Norris beats everybody, I guess. <P>Cheeses discussed his workout regimen. Eight-pack abs, guaranteed. Or your money back. If you can find us. <P>Which brings us to The Present and points our noses toward The Future. <P>The two-headed beast lives, ripe for slaughter. <P>Node 41811 for live-blogs and other, until it's is slain or forever, whichever comes first. <P>Node 42071 for the further adventures of The Back-pedalers, until it reaches 10K or somebody in the Nolanverse does something which is reported here.<P>Good morning.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Had a bit of a panic earlier.

    by MadFuckingMax

    Couldn't sign in all day at work. Thought I'd suffered another banning.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Nice recap.

    by anonymoose

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Awesome summary as usual Subs.

    by MadFuckingMax

    This one had a triumphant air about it though.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Hi, Ass!

    by anonymoose

    So glad you could take a moment out of your busy life and throw us a message. Uh-oh! Too much time taken already! You'd better get ready for your afternoon wankathon!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    so what is pedalbacking??

    by mynemaborat

    whats going on around here?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Enough talk about Spider-Man.

    by anonymoose

    Drag Me to Hell and Evil Dead series is where it's at. I really want Raimi to drop SM4 and whatever the fuck he thinks he's doing with World of Warcraft. Evil Dead 4! Come on!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    I have my doubts that he could 'recapture' Evil Dead

    by just pillow talk

    to what it was with a fourth installment. Then again, I didn't see Drag Me to Hell.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    mynemaborat

    by anonymoose

    Welcome. You have entered the party. Make a seat and sit. We don't have chairs. Join the conversation and/or come up with that which is your own.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    read this in 1631

    by mynemaborat

    "I found this by reading the works of ORCUS, Keeper Of The Lost Threads, who roams the forgotten TB's, spreading the word."... i'm intrigued. what was orcus doing?? visiting all the old talkbacks for some reason? why?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Drag Me to Hell recaptured it well.

    by anonymoose

    Now, if he could just call it quits with Spidey and forget this video game movie...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Hey hey hey...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..I got a life - it just ain't in this country. Since handing in my notice a week ago I have been in full on LIGAS. Like.I. Give. A. Shit.<P>Don't get me wrong - even doing fuck all I get more done than most people but most of my time I been taking care of outside interests.<P>Yeah sure, in my notice letter I did say I would behave professionally. But in their reply they said they hoped it goes well so that makes us both liars.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    if that be true, then full speed ahead with ED 4

    by just pillow talk

    Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Oh and Subs

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    Top job

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Orcus is a King.

    by MadFuckingMax

    He wanders the land of the old TBs, nursing them into oblivion.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    It should be shot in film...

    by anonymoose

    ...and only the tech that they used for Evil Dead/Evil Dead II. The makeshift chasecam, for example.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    If ED4 isn't made in the next 5 years...

    by MadFuckingMax

    I doubt it ever will be.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    5 years...

    by anonymoose

    ...is enough time for Spider-Man 4, World of Warcraft, and something else. Likely SM5, but Evil Dead 4 is a possibility.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    how old will Bruce be?

    by just pillow talk

    And how big?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Orcus doesn't move..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..in the same way we do. Orcus doesn't follow herds. <Br>With someone, like Orcus, who makes their own path through life you've just got to consider yourself lucky enough to have met them.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    I hope so.

    by MadFuckingMax

    I'd like to see what he'd do with it. Whether it would be a vehicle for Bruce or if a new character would be introduced. Setting etc.<P>But to Direct 3 films in 5 years, I'm not saying he won't, just that its a big task and Bruce isn't getting any younger.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    FUCK THIS I WANT BLADE 4!!! WITH SNIPES!

    by EvilDoeR

    None of this Sticky Fingaz bullshit again! Call Wesley, and make the fucking movie with him!! He is the fucking man.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    I seem to have given up on writing.

    by MadFuckingMax

    And started typing how I think.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    that's only semi-true Mr. K...

    by just pillow talk

    Orcus will post to current threads on occasion. And he will respond to most posts made in the past.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Sony's New PS3 Slim

    by anonymoose

    http://tinyurl.com/mrwgp9

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    How does Orcus keep tabs on them all?

    by MadFuckingMax

    He seems to pop up very soon after a new comment is made on an old post.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Bugger. Thought the Slim may have had B/c

    by MadFuckingMax

    What a pest.<P>I hate have multiple systems set up in order to play games from the same company that are just a few years old.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Bugger. Thought the Slim may have had B/c

    by MadFuckingMax

    What a pest.<P>I hate having multiple systems set up in order to play games from the same company that are just a few years old.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    er, yeah. Thats what I said - he doesn't do what we do. Duh.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Fable III announced, Fable II goes episodic

    by anonymoose

    http://tinyurl.com/l7xwx7

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I hated Fable 2.

    by MadFuckingMax

    But I absolutely love Metroid, so Shadow Complex excites me to no end.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Brett Farvre is fucking undead.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Shadow Complex it is...

    by anonymoose

    http://tinyurl.com/mducg6 <P> USA Today review (4.5 out of 5)

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Brett Farvre is fucking the undead.

    by anonymoose

    Which is more entertaining?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    News from my Local Comic Shop

    by Subtitles_Off

    Marvel is hyping anew "motion comic." It's like a cartoon except all the characters are perfectly inanimate while the background moves. Yeah, worthless as that sounds.<P>There's a new Batgirl. If you know anything about female Bat-characters, think of three. Now, eliminate the ones that you are interested in reading about, and who is left? Yep. She's the new Batgirl.<P>Out of nine geeks present, I was the only one who knew what the heck AVATAR was. That oughta tell you something.<P>I bought one comic. There has never been a time that I can remember when I walked out of a comic book shop spending less than $50 until today. That's how uninterested I've become in contemporary superhero soap opera.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    YAY! Yeah, I read the GiantBomb review.

    by MadFuckingMax

    Then checked the gamerankings. Seems everyone is in love with it. Need to get a few games atm. Batman and MvC2 beckon.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    That was Tony Romo

    by Subtitles_Off

    but he kicked that undead bitch to the curb.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    "Triumphant air"

    by Subtitles_Off

    That might just be because I was literally impressed that my head didn't explode trying to keep track of yesterday.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Orcus...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..may have some vbscript from somewhere that checks the pages with posts and the count. I've been saying this for ages and we've proved it here - there's a new direction to move in.<P>I met Orcus one time when the front page had reverted back to something from 97 or 98. A cracking (and mostly accurate) script leak of TPM from the HG himself. I dropped in spouting inane babble about old TBs and he was there. There was someother stuff about Something About Mary but I didn't bother going in.<P>Unfortunately, and I am not bitter honest Harry, since being banhammered there is no trace of me being there.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    I think the worst thing about being banned...

    by MadFuckingMax

    was losing the posts.<P>Considering our efforts, and some of the contributions, it wasn't really fair.<P>Some good humour was lost. Plus the pedalback will make slightly less less.<P>Not much less, mind.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Less less? Less sense, of course.

    by MadFuckingMax

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Well, I'm outta here.

    by anonymoose

    Got a busy day ahead of me. Tell that wanker Kobe Ass to suck it.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Yes, but the memories remain.

    by Subtitles_Off

    And, in a way, I am glad that some of the better stuff is remembered by those who were there during its creation. It's like a live rock concert. You might think you want a cd recording of it, but when you listen to it the applause is kind of annoying and you prefer the album version of that tune anyway.<P>I am saying, all they can do is restrict newbs from wisdom. They can't banish it from our minds.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    anonymoose

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    That nailed me - and I've got no idea who the fuck Brett Farvre is!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Within moments,

    by Subtitles_Off

    we will be #1, #2, and #3 in the Top Ten.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Ah!

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Ah!

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Howzat feel?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Brett Farvre

    by Subtitles_Off

    An American football quarterback who has played well-past his expiration date, retired, un-retired, re-retired and re-unretired.<P>Think of him as a United States version of The Who.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Evil Dead 4 will be made...

    by Six Demon Bag

    Ash will be an old man...crazy as hell because of the trauma hes been thru and witnessed.<P>then the undead reappear and he breaks out the shotty. and chainsaw of course...<P>itll be what INDY 4 strived at.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I got your drift MFM anyway....

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ...and its a good point.<Br>Knowing that life would go on without you keeps your feet on the ground. But as they ARE gone and this IS the internet I could always go around claiming that my posts read like a fuckin' Dylan Thomas poem. I could claim that every guess/prediction about a film I made had been right all along and that I had a flame written tablet from GOD HIMSELF saying that Star Trek was good to show Asi.<P>But I won't as I don't want to be a dick

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    You can still claim that

    by Subtitles_Off

    And you will be correct.<P>Except for that bit about DAWSON'S TREK being good.<P>And, since it is the internet, no one will doubt you, nor take the time to try to dispute it.<P>

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    6DB

    by Subtitles_Off

    Did you see what just happened? Planets aligned.<P>I want it noted.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    The Who retiring is just a myth...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..sure, there were gaps of a few years now and then and cruel death had his say but the truth is they look for any excuse to play together. The more times they get away with calling it a reunion the more money they make.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    it has been recorded in the annals of Oldman

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    I'm touched.

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    I really fucking am. Thank you Subs. And he may be out at the moment. I'm sure he'll say hello later.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    help me in PB or im gonna get squashed...

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Hey Quaid!

    by TedKordLives

    I'm gonna squash you! <P> Hey guys.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Question

    by TedKordLives

    Which Spider-Man villains best suit the Raimi Spiderverse? That haven't been used yet, of course. <P> Or even better, which villains should make up the Sinister Six of the Raimi Spiderverse? I'll allow for Goblin, Octopus and Sandman to return. That leaves three.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Hey Subs..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..6DB may have a problem - sooner or later pedalback is going to crash out of the top 10 after reaching 24 hours after 10K. Does SDB need to keep holding the fort - and if so if no-one else is there he might get done for keeping an old TB afloat.<P>I say pull back - its not worth 6DB being banned. We all have the node ID for SD's live blog - post counts we don't want to use up.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Are the new writers planning on expanding...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    on the idea of Peter Parker finding his sexuality as previously foreshadowed in Part III?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Cheyne

    by MadFuckingMax

    I've a sneaking suspicion that GE's silliness while talking to you on the EliRoth'sHairyBack contributed to his banning.<P>He humbly apologises.<P>Also, why are we divided here? 6DB not keen on 42071?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    And by finding..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..his sexuality I hope you mean nailing the arse on that skinny little piece who's so good at baking next door.<p>I mean seriously - you would wouldn't you? I would. Damm.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    That sucks for him...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    ted

    by Six Demon Bag

    like pancho after taking a tree to the chest--"I CAN MAKE IT!"<P>shit..wait, he didnt thought.<P>fuck. me.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    i go where DECENT convos are..

    by Six Demon Bag

    be it here or PB...but i will hold it down in PB to it goes click..

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Afternoon gents

    by Continentalop

    Subs, I would never call you a fucktard. Tard yes, fucktard never. But recap today.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    6DB

    by TedKordLives

    It takes me about five minutes per post in the PB. I'd rather take it somewhere else. Like a coaxial TB. Somewhere secluded-like.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    6DB's devotion to 41811

    by Subtitles_Off

    might be Don Quixote-style windmill taunting, but it is choice and his burning passion to see how far he can run the tally up. Applause.<P>42071 merely exists in the shadow 41811 casts. A life-raft, if you will, that we shall ride while we watch the Grand Old Lady sink into the sea.<P>The fear of banhammering isn't rational. The banhammer fell on an extinct thread that had been revived. That's killing a mummy. 41811 is a still-current thread. I believe he's safe there.<P>I hope he's safe there.<P>But, while I often visit, I like the refresh air about this place and the splash-guard toilets.<P>It's a two-headed beast now.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Organic Webshooters

    by Continentalop

    Not to continually dwell on this. but I think it is a symptom of what was wrong with the series. A deviation for the Spider-Man character that made him less and less like the one I grew up with. Unlike Batman and Superman, there really is only one version of the character, he hasn't gone through as many different variations as the DC characters. <P> And if people can't buys webshooters, how the hell do they buy the costume? That thing is more advanced and sophisticated than the webshooters, and he did it with his Aunt Mays sewing machine and the spare synthetic rubber she keeps in the basement.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    "If I die my blood is on your hands."

    by TedKordLives

    "Just don't get any on my shoes."

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    "But recap today."

    by Subtitles_Off

    ????

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    im already banned...i just dont know it yet..

    by Six Demon Bag

    see you in another thread..you'll know me..wish me luck.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Hey, it didn't do my whole first post

    by Continentalop

    I got cut off. After asking for a recap, I wrote: <P> "Ok, Subs is the one person here who is obviously not a 'tard. He is the only one here with the genius level IQ to follow what goes on in the Infinite Talkbacks to write a recap. But can he figure out if Killer Croc killed Jason Todd's parents or Batwoman? That is the real question."

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    2 headed beast--nows the perfecct time for HYDRA

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Subs, I didn't see your recap up above

    by Continentalop

    I was waiting for you to try and recap the last 24 hours, since we have been scattered to the four winds and then came here.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by TedKordLives

    But Stan Lee originally wanted Peter to have organic web-shooters. His editor at the time shot it down, saying it was too weird. I think it makes perfect sense, really. Moreso than saying he invented the shooters and the fluid.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    conti

    by Six Demon Bag

    i thought todd's mommy betrayed and murdered your father...all kidding aside, didnt joker kill JTs mom? or are you talking adoptive parents...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    "Tell us we will die like dogs."

    by TedKordLives

    "You WILL die like dogs."

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    I was thinking of going all MEMENTO<P>on today's recap

    by Subtitles_Off

    But then I remembered I'm deathly allergic to difficult work.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    I think

    by TedKordLives

    Once you accept how silly all this really is you can then take it to the nth level and just have fun with it. That's why I'm here. <P> And in case you missed it, 6DB, you are a cool motherfucker.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    TKL, I think the Editors made the right choice

    by Continentalop

    I think having strange tiny nipples on you wrist that shoot a sticky milky substance is just fucking creepy. <P> BUT I have always been a fan of compromise, and one thing I didn't list above but I have thought of is why didn't they do BOTH. Why not say he produces a web fluid out of his body but he designs web-shooters to help him control it and shape it? People who can't believe he could ever invent something as amazing as web-fluid are satisfied; and people who want to see webshooters are somewhat satisfied, and it shows how smart Peter is. He has a situation (he can create web fluid) and he comes up with a intelligent solution (he designs a device that helps him focus this ability).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    "I'd go with you but-"

    by TedKordLives

    "I know, there's a problem with your face."

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    6DB, Jason Todd is a confusing character

    by Continentalop

    Before Crisis, he was an acrobatic kid from the circus whose parents are murdered by Killer Croc. <P> After Crisis, it was retconned that Killer Croc killed Batwoman and that Jason Todd was a street kid who was caught stealing the hub caps off of the Batmobile. His dad was a petty crook who was killed by Two-Face, and his mom (or adoptive mom, I can't remember) was really a double-crossing bitch who was helping the Joker. <P> At least I think that is what happened.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Jason Todd's

    by Subtitles_Off

    parents were murdered by Killer Croc. He found out years later that his birth mother was not the same woman who had been murdered, so he reunited with her, only to find she was a whore and a drug addict who would sell her own son for some tasty Joker smack. Yes, the clown killed her, along with the kid. But, we all know death is not death in DC Comics. The real Momma Todd is now probably part of a Black Lantern three-way with the two people who raised her creepy little bastard.<P>Kathy Kane was Batwoman, but she retired to run a circus. It's always a fucking circus in Gotham City. She was murdered by a brain-washed Bronze Tiger on behalf of Ra's Al Ghul's League of Assassins in order to draw Batman into their web. But of course we all know bad ideas never die in the DC Comics world (see above), so she is back. Only this time she's big-titted, red-haired, Jewish, and she doesn't find men sexually stimulating. They call her Kate, now, too.<P>This isn't genius-level thinking. This is mild-fucktard-level thinking.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by TedKordLives

    That would have been nice, but that ship left port long ago. <P> I still prefer the organic shooters, creepy or not. <P> I do have issues with the bone stinger they gave him a few years back, tho. Spider-Man shouldn't have ANYthing in common with Wolverine. Other than being an orphan I suppose.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    I can find no reference anywhere

    by Subtitles_Off

    of Killer Croc even knowing Batwoman. Maybe 'Lop has seen into the future and has now spoiled the upcoming DC "event" "RIP Batwoman."<P>Killer Croc didn't murder Orca, either, but he did feast on her dead carcass.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    I like your description better Subs

    by Continentalop

    That is why you are our Moe.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    You think Jason Todd is a confusion

    by Subtitles_Off

    take a whack at Stephanie Brown.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Why do I keep saying Killer Croc killed Batwoman?

    by Continentalop

    I know i read it somewhere, but I can't remember where. It is like I am privy to some sort of info that no one else is. <p> It is like a bad version of SOYLENT GREEN. "Don't you understand? Killer Croc killed Batwoman! Batwoman!" <P> Of course, unlike Heston, I am full of shit.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Why is there a guy who looks exactly like

    by Subtitles_Off

    Heath Ledger's Joker running around in the ad for Final Fantasy up-top?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    I would touch Stephanie Brown...

    by Continentalop

    ...with your dick Subs, and 6DB pushing.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Ok, Ted, the organic webshooters don't bother you

    by Continentalop

    But what about that fucking costume? How the hell did he make that thing? I want to see how the hell a high school kid sowed that thing with his aunt's sewing equipment and what he can find around the house. If he can do that, he is fucking Martha Stewart times a thousand.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    "You're gonna like this...

    by TedKordLives

    ...it's the best ride in the park."-Ray Tango

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Interestingly enough, Batwoman was introduced

    by Subtitles_Off

    after that guy famously declared Batman & Robin promoted homosexuality, as a defense of Batman's Christian-approved libido. They might have even been married once, I'm not positive.<P>Yet, now the character munches carpets.<P>Fuck Dan DiDio's DC. It's an abomination.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    "Well, he's standing in a puddle...

    by TedKordLives

    ...and it's not raining."-Gabriel Cash

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    I'd loan you my dick to hit that.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You sure you don't want to reconsider?<P>She's Batgirl.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Well Conti

    by TedKordLives

    I always thought of the costume as fabric, and not even special stretchy fabric. Maybe some poly-blend. But he doesn't need anything sturdier than that.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    I think she is a little bit underage

    by Continentalop

    What is she supposed to be, like 13 or something? <P> And I have never been a big fan of her or Cassandra Cain (actually, I have CC).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    I meant the costume in the movie Ted

    by Continentalop

    That thing looks like it would cost $100,000 to make, minimum.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Zodiac: from the writer of Darkness Falls

    by AsimovLives

    I still can't believe that the same guy who penned the awful and dumb Darkness Falls is the same guy who wrote the brillant Zodiac. How can this be?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Subby

    by TedKordLives

    Hear Hear! Fuck Dan DiDio's DC! He obviously has some problems and would benefit from a couple hundred years of therapy. <P> Of course, there probably are people who would say the same about me.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I think she's seventeen

    by Subtitles_Off

    Same age as Tim drake, whatever he is.<P>Old enough to have been Spoiler.<P>Then Robin.<P>Then dead.<P>Then never-really-dead exiled to Africa with Leslie Thompkins.<P>Then Spoiler-again.<P>Then whatever.<P>Now Batgirl.<P>It's like, here, we've got this character that Chuck Dixon created to give Robin his own Mary Jane Watson (Gwen Stacy, whatever), but nobody likes the character or is interested at all in what happens to her. Let's put her in this outfit. No? How about this one? Still, no? Well, what a bout...NOW?<P>Eventually, she'll replace Pamela Isley as Poison Ivy and turn into a lawn.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Asi!!!!!!!!!!

    by Subtitles_Off

    remember two days ago, guys, when we all thought he'd returned? Well now he has!<P>Asi, I've missed you. We reached 10K. we all praised the way you handled those neo-Nazis.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Oh, yeah Conti.

    by TedKordLives

    The movie costume is obviously out of Peter's budget, not to mention his abilities. Same with the 'New Goblin', actually. Did Harry commission that helmet, or did he just tinker around in his dad's secret lab until he made something that works?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    The Legacy Law exists for Marvel

    by Subtitles_Off

    as well as DC.<P>Villains and heroes alike keep costumes of all sizes and fits and functions available in a secret cache , to be used by their heirs in the case of their demise.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Its getting awfully Spiermany in here.

    by MadFuckingMax

    I think I may touch myself briefly instead.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Its getting awfully Spidermany in here.

    by MadFuckingMax

    I think I may touch myself briefly instead.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Briefly?

    by Subtitles_Off

    That's kinda sad, GE.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    He may have thought:

    by MadFuckingMax

    "Hmm, I can make a shitload of money writing a derivative script. Then after, with my name in the industry, actually pen something worthwhile."<P>I hope this is how it went, but I have severe doubts.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Shh Subs. Rubbing one out in quicktime

    by MadFuckingMax

    is one of the few pleasures I afford myself.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST

    The worst part of Infinite Crisis:

    by TedKordLives

    And the ultimate extension of your Legacy Law, Subby, was when Booster Gold and the new Beetle showed up with one of BB's Bugs to fly into space to take out the Mother Eye, or whatthefuckever. There are so many things wrong with that, I can't even begin. <P>Well, except to say that two Bugs were destroyed in the events leading up to Ted's death and the Bug IS NOT EQUIPPED FOR SPACE FLIGHT! It never has been. There was one prototype that could, but that wasn't it. Fucking DC, I can tear their shit apart so easily it's pathetic.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST

    "Rubbing one out in quicktime"

    by MadFuckingMax

    Set up a real beauty there.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    I keep addressing posts to people

    by Subtitles_Off

    who aren't here in the hopes that the Mods are monitoring and get all confused.<P>"Wait, is he talking to someone we banned."<P>"Yeah, I think he is."<P>"But, I didn't see him in there."<P>"Of course you didn't. We banned him. When we ban someone, their posts disappear."<P>"Oh, ok. Wait. The how can HE see them to talk to them."<P>"My God! Someone has discovered a flaw in our programming! Somebody's gonna have to tell Harry."<P>"I'm not telling Harry. Remember the last time? I never did get that Moriarty stain out of my Ghostbusters tee-shirt."<P>"Well, I'm not gonna tell him."<P>"Guys, maybe the one dude is typing to non-existant dudes just to mess with you."<P>"Nah. Why would anybody do that?"

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    I'm so attached to that abbreviation

    by MadFuckingMax

    that I didn't even notice.<P>Of course, I'm not actually GE, I just like the initials.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Or what about turning Skeets into a villain?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Because I know this shit, right?<P>That's the reason Asi is ignoring me.<P>Right?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    The one time I tried backpedalling...

    by MadFuckingMax

    it was going downhill and my hoodie got pulled through the front tire.<P>Tore a small portion of small scalp it did.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Ouch.

    by Subtitles_Off

    That's why cyclists wear that skin-tight stuff, I guess.<P>No hoodies on bikes.<P>

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Skeets as a villain.

    by TedKordLives

    Fucking lame. I barely read '52', tho. I bought the issue where Booster 'died', and the last issue because it had Ted in it, so I had to buy it. <P> And Booster fucking STEALS the scarab from Ted. Fuckin' ass.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Subby

    by TedKordLives

    Asi's just rubbing one out in quicktime. I'm sure he'll get back to afterwards.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Only legacy character that worked

    by Continentalop

    Was Green Goblin and Hobgoblin. <P> Oh, and Blue Beetle of course (actually, Ted Kord is a great legacy character). <P>

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Scott Lang too.

    by Continentalop

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    I tried wearing the leggings.

    by MadFuckingMax

    But they wouldn't head.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    I tried wearing the leggings.

    by MadFuckingMax

    But they wouldn't fit over my head.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Skeets was a villain?

    by Continentalop

    Really? That sounds so fucking lame. Almost as stupid as having Maxwell Lord shoot Blue Bee-<P> Oh, never mind.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by TedKordLives

    Skeets had Mr.Mind hiding inside him. It was really dumb. He was using him as a cocoon, and he came out as this crazy psychadelic butterfly thing. <P> All Grant Morrison.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Scott Lang & Ted Kord

    by TedKordLives

    I could see them having a beer or twelve together. <P> Speaking of Twelve, anybody else get tricked into buying JMS's miniseries that just fucking stopped eight issues in? I bought issue eight twice, thinking it was the new issue since it had been so long since I bought one. <P> Fuckin' ass.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    SUPER METROID

    by MadFuckingMax

    I wanted that to be my last post of the night.<P>Evening, all.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Actually. Here is something I want to know:

    by MadFuckingMax

    what mediums have made you cry?<P>Comics, films, music etc. Specify, you saps.<P>xXxXx

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    MFM, Re= makes me cry, any internet porn

    by Continentalop

    that ends before I do.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    But seriously

    by Continentalop

    I don't think I ever cried, but I did get choked up in a couple of movies. <P> Trip to Bountiful <P> Umberto D. <P> Night of Cabiria. <P> Gran Torino <P> Ikiru

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    I cried when Ted died.

    by TedKordLives

    Actually I had a kind of breakdown. Then I realized I was having a breakdown over a fictional character, and things got really weird. <P> I cried when Optimus Prime died (I saw it in the theater when I was but a lad.) <P> I cried at the end of 'King Kong Lives' when I was a kid. <P> Ennio Moricone's 'Ecstasy of Gold' (The climax of Good Bad Ugly) tears me up sometimes, depending on what it's set to in my head.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Choking up.

    by MadFuckingMax

    Yeah, I think thats as far as I go. Wet eyes, but the tears never fall. Just mist up.<P>Damn you, Ampersand, why'd you have to get old?<P>Robots and Harry Callahan? I'll see you sissies in the morning.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    I admitted yesterday

    by Subtitles_Off

    to openly weeping when I read THE ROAD.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Once

    by TedKordLives

    I was having an emotional day, and when Leo dies in The Quick and the Dead, I cried a little. My grandmother was very confused. <P> What can I say, I got big emotions.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Movies manipulate me very easily.

    by Subtitles_Off

    And for some reason, once, when I was listening to Peter Gabriel's SO and Kate and Peter were singing "Don't Give Up," right as Pete started singing, "Gonna walk out of here...," I lost it. Embarrassed the hell out of myself.<P>No excuse for it.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I choked up during SILENT RUNNING as well

    by Continentalop

    That poor little robot in the end. *sniff*

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES

    by Subtitles_Off

    At the end, where Zira tosses the imposter baby chimp into the oil and sludge of the bay. Totally unnecessary.<P>Cried worse than when Bambi's mother was shot.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    I'm crying right now.

    by TedKordLives

    Eating a sandwich and weeping. Look, there's a little girl in a swimsuit.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    I'm crying right now.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Max called me a sissy.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    I watched Whale Rider...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..and bawled like a baby when she made her speech onstage. Shadowlands got me as well. After one night out clubbing I stuck on Robocop and blubbed like a bitch when he went back to his old home. <P>No I don't fucking miss comedowns.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    I cried when I paid to see the Phantom Menace

    by Continentalop

    That and when I paid to see Godfather III. Fuck, those hurt.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Subby

    by TedKordLives

    How did we come up with the same gag 90 seconds apart? <P> Because we're awesome.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST

    subs--if i ever get banned

    by Six Demon Bag

    my new handle will be I SEE BANNED PEOPLE

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    cried like a little bitch in BEN BUTTON..

    by Six Demon Bag

    every time..<P>still cry in ET..but thats cause i remember getting abducted by aliens and im having flashbacks..thatll be another time to talk about that..

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Dead Man's Shoes...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    is the only movie that made me full out cry. Hence my display name. I guess most of you pricks wouldn't know about that though. Too busy watching fucking "Spider-Man."

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Even more awesome than that, Teddy

    by Subtitles_Off

    I hadn't yet seen yours before I typed mine.<P>If 'Lop had typed "I'm crying right now" right after I did they'd've had to let gays marry and declare peace in the mid-East.<P>FACKING 'Lop!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Nice one 6DB

    by Subtitles_Off

    And just how many times have you watched BEN BUTTON?<P>I didn't even see it once, and I figure that was plenty.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Cheyne and I haven't met, have we?

    by Subtitles_Off

    He thinks I'm a geek.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Subby

    by TedKordLives

    Actually he thinks you're a prick. <P> Pretentious douchbags are entitled to opinions too, I suppose. <P> Ever see 'Man Bites Dog'?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:40 p.m. CST

    No I don't...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    that'd be judgemental.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Pretentious douchebags ARE entitled to opinions...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    Hence Aintitcool.com.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Never seen 'Man Bites Dog'...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    but I've seen it on Television before. I believe it was on the Independent Film Channel.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Exactly.

    by TedKordLives

    Good work on the self-fulfilling prophecy thing. But really, have you ever seen 'Man Bites Dog'? Great French mockumentary. It's got a Criterion DVD. You should check it out.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    dont car what anyone says about BEN BUTTON

    by Six Demon Bag

    i think its pretty damned good--far superior than the oft-compared GUMP.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Ah.

    by TedKordLives

    I see. That would be the place for it. <P> Looked up 'Dead Man's Shoes' on Imdb. Impressive cast.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Ted, I think MAN BITES DOG was Belgium

    by Continentalop

    I used to like that movie a lot. I saw a little bit of it a while ago and I had to turn it off because I didn't want it to ruin my memory of it. <P> I look at that as a young man's film. I think when you get older and more stubborn about what is right and wrong, it is harder to watch that film. IMO.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by TedKordLives

    Hmm, food for thought. And yeah, I haven't seen it in years so I may be off, geographically. Don't they speak French in Belgium?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Are you being sarcastic with that impressive cast remark?

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    I hope they never do the clone saga

    by mr_beaks_is_a_faggot

    in the spider-meng movies, I would lose all hope in the universe.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Yeah they do Ted, that and Flemmish and German

    by Continentalop

    But I have some French friends who always hate it when people refer to a Belgium movies as French, even if they are speaking French. Let me tell you, French people are super anal about "Frenchness." You think Americans and Brits make fun of each other's accents, the French absolutely despise other people's French accents, like being from Quebec. No wonder everybody speaks English and not French, who wants to be told you sound like a hick?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Another good Belgian movie was The Vanishing

    by Continentalop

    God did the American remake suck shit.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    the rape scene in man bites dog is uncomfortable

    by mr_beaks_is_a_faggot

    still one of my fav. movies.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    agh The Vanishing AWESOME!!!

    by mr_beaks_is_a_faggot

    one of the best endings ever.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    You think older people

    by Subtitles_Off

    are more stubborn than younger people?<P>I find that odd as hell.<P>Younger people are FACKING know-it-alls who think old people should crawl away and die.<P>You're never going to hear an older person say, for example, "DISTRICT 9 was the most moving and amazing thing I've ever seen in my life."<P>That would never come out of the mouth of anyone older than 24.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    MBIAF wont be here long!

    by Six Demon Bag

    dont stand next to the guy in the showdown in the wild west..

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Belgians know how to make a waffle.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    I'm thinking MBIAF

    by Subtitles_Off

    has an escape plan.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    cheyne_stoking_DMS

    by TedKordLives

    No man, straight up nice cast. I like that Paddy Constantine guy especially. <P> Sorry it took so long to respond-lunch break.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Maybe stubborn is the wrong word

    by Continentalop

    But I think younger people are more accepting of new and different things. It is no surprise that Jazz, Rock N' Roll, The British Invasion, The French New Wave, The New Hollywood, and the Indie Film Scene of the 90s were all pushed by young people. <p> I think young people have a different take on morality than older people. They are willing to accept different ways of thinking (about homosexuality - which is good, and about having amoral characters - which is bad sometimes), but at the same time they wine like the little children about how unfair life is. No shit. Now get me another cup of coffee.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by TedKordLives

    Never seen either version of 'The Vanishing', but I smelled a stinker when I saw the trailer for the American version. <P> And I'm from Arkansas, so I know from sounding like a hick. I decided in the second grade that I absolutely was not going to have a southern accent. And I don't.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Ah, but you see

    by Subtitles_Off

    all those cultural movements were pushed by people who are now old.<P>What have young people done for us lately?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Subby

    by TedKordLives

    They served me a delicious bowl of beans and rice. Does that count?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Only if they came up with the recipe.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Young people today

    by Continentalop

    Ok, I think their taste sucks shit, but in there defense they have been raised to like crap. <p> And also, I am going to take it that pretty much everyone here is from Generation X. Well, we were a big bunch of whiners too (but at least we gave the world Grunge and some directors). <p> Finally, it is young people today who are actually fighting a war, while guys are age are most likely playing MOH or watching the Discovering channel wishing we fought with Patton. <P> But yeah, young people today have no taste. They are artistically dead. I agree 100% what Ebert wrote.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Fighting with Patton?

    by TedKordLives

    I woulda pushed that sonofabitch into traffic. Nah, not really...I'm not big on sourkraut. <P> Really shitty death for one of our greatest heroes, tho.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    Ah, so we find out

    by Subtitles_Off

    'Lop is not older than me after all.<P>Respect your elders, bitches! We took war seriously and held our leaders accountable for its damages.<P>It was you youngsters who came up with all that Rambo "Do we get to win dis time?" bullshit.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Age Check?

    by TedKordLives

    Or would revealing our ages taint the whole TB, splitting us apart?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Speaking of

    by Subtitles_Off

    I am on my way out to drink with people twenty-some years younger than me.<P>I'll pedalback here later on.<P>Don't let water_shit sit in my seat. Jebus! That's why I installed the new toilets.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    I will give my age range

    by Continentalop

    I am from 35-38. Just so you know the era I am from. <p> And it was the Baby Boomers who came up with the who "Do we get to win dis time?" thing. Not all of them were hippies, and they needed their own Stab in the back as an excuse why we lost Nam.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Every generation believes the subsequent to have shitty taste

    by toadkillerdog

    Conti, you and I are roughly of the same age, but I guarandamntee you that people in their sixties or seventies who think we are less knowledgeable and our tastes are not as good as theirs. I love Sinatra, but how many 40 something still like big band swing, or crooners? Sure you will find some, just as you will find some 20-somethings who do, but as the generations pass, less and less will. Things change, Times change. Bread cost 10 cents in the 20's, but what percentage of the weekly household budget was represented by that 10 cents? <p> A lot of us think we live in the golden age, and our tastes are paramount, but the turn of the last century people had an appreciation of books and literature and music, that the WWI generation did not, and the fifties certainly did not, because TV became king. Look at movies from the thirties when most people had no concept of TV, and radio was still in infancy. They spent more time reading and listening to their edison's but the radio also ushered in people being removed from pastoral pursuits. Technology does that.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    I'm the same age as John Stewart.

    by Subtitles_Off

    The Generation With No Clever Logo. Younger than hippies but older than Gothers. We were abandoned and confused after the first oil crisis and Watergate, and many of us joined a cult that forced us to wear pastel sweaters around our necks and chant mantras to douchebags who promised we'd get rich. Now, we're all bitching about how things haven't turned out the way they learned us in school. But we shat all over that cult. We liked your guys and your grunge, because it reminded us of our punk, but then we couldn't believe you abandoned it so quickly for whiner metal. And, we don't let our kids listen to Zach Effron and the Disney chicks. That's all you. We lined up to watch STAR WARS the first time. Those of us who thought, "Yeah, fun, but, whatever" once out-numbered the rest, but then we got confused. I think it had something to do with the Kool-Aid they served at those cult meetings I mentioned. I never attended those.<P>Hope that clears it all up.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Actually I am slightly older Conti

    by toadkillerdog

    40-45 range

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    My age is...

    by anonymoose

    ...OVER 9000!!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Granted, it was members of my generation

    by Subtitles_Off

    that made you eat "Rambo."<P>We didn't expect you to like it so much.<P>Even Rambo thinks the fetishizing of the military has gotten a little creepy.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST

    No, I agree tkd

    by Continentalop

    I am not big on the whole "this generation is better than that generation" thing, because since the time of Aristotle and before people have been complaining about kids. <P> BUT, I do think we are entering a culture black hole. And I don't know if you can blame kids nowadays. It is always the generation previous who leads them. The New Hollywood films of 60s & 70s were not being directed by Baby Boomers, but by members of the Silent Generation. It is my generation, Generation X (born in the mid 60s to late 70s) who are setting the pace for this generation, and while we might have produced QT, Grunge, Chris Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson and Wes Anderson, we have also produced Kevin Smith, Michael Bay and a bunch of crap. <P> I also think marketing has been one of the reasons that stuff sucks now. Marketing has become such an exact science they can force almost any stupid shit down our throats, and young people are the most susceptible. <p> I think Craig Ferguson (whom I am not a fan of) spelled it out best: <p> http://tinyurl.com/kob8k6

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:28 p.m. CST

    6DB is 31...

    by Six Demon Bag

    its not the age...its the mileage.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:31 p.m. CST

    wow...

    by Six Demon Bag

    we are in an age when its not CLINT whos backpedalling on his MACHISMO action roles, but SLY...<P>now i DO feel old...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Who is this generation's singular music icon?

    by toadkillerdog

    40's had Sinatra. 50's had Elvis. Sixties produced no singular talent that overshadowed the rest because it was dominated by Beatles. 70's likewise. 80's Michael Jackson. 90's? 2000's? There may be one on the rise, but who?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST

    i hate to say it but its Britney...

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    For the 90s Tupac, for this decade Britney

    by Continentalop

    Tupac over Cobain because he was murdered instead of committing suicide - it is a "cooler" way to go. <P> And 6DB is right, it is Britney. She has led to the entire style over substance that dominates not only music but film and TV. She has led to reality TV, Paris Hilton, Megan Fox and people being famous for being famous. <P> The two of them are part of the new idea that the music is not as important as the music icon.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    conti

    by Six Demon Bag

    i would have to say Cobain would take Tupac..though both are "modern poets" to these young kids..

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    6DB, I would agree with you

    by Continentalop

    BUT I am always surprised to find out how many more young kids are aware of Tupac than Cobain. He has a bigger cultural impact (and I think Cobain in way more important and talented).

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Also, Cobain was part of a group

    by toadkillerdog

    I think singular talents as icons are even more powerful. I would agree that Tupac represents 90's, but even he does not rise to level of an Elvis, Frank or MJ. Tupac is more of a Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin. Cobain more of a Morrison.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST

    thats cause tupacs released more albums DEAD than alive...

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Terrifying experience on the way home!

    by anonymoose

    So I was driving home from work, zoning out to some music, and I stopped at a red light. I heard a scream, no it was not the music. I looked through all the windows until I spotted a man beating up another man on the sidewalk. He looked to be about 6 feet tall, the attacker.<P> Anyway, I turned off the music and looked around the street and saw that I was alone. I looked back at the two men and the attacker was standing up over the other guy, bloodied but alive, and the attacker was staring at me. Glaring is more like it.<P> He reached into his coat jacket and pulled out a black object, which I instinctively thought was a gun, so I ducked. It was a cell phone, which he appeared to be using to take pictures of me and my car. At that time, seeing a cell phone kicked my reflexes into gear and I immediately started for my phone, but I forgot that I left it at the office to charge overnight, being that I would just use my other cell at home.<P> Boy, was I scared! By this time, the light had turned green and I gunned it. I looked in the rear view and the guy was looking at me as I sped off. I raced home to call the cops and give them my description. I got home and told my girlfriend about what had just happened and she said, “You’re movin’ with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air.” I whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror. If anything, I could say that this cab was rare, but I thought, “Nah, forget it. Yo, holmes, to Bel-Air!” I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 and I yelled to the cabbie, “Yo, holmes, smell ya later!” Looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    gald you made it home moose

    by Six Demon Bag

    now get your ass to the pedalback!

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Durh, was all that a setup for Fresh Prince?

    by ToMonicker

    And if so, shouldn't it have been cross-posted to Hancock? ;-) <br /> By the way, I agree with that Craig Furgeson clip, even though I don't watch him. I liked him on Drew Carey though, he was pretty, uh, out there. Shit, I've dropped Conan too. Bringing Andy back, didn't help. He's just not the same to me anymore. Now, it's just Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert that I really try to catch regularly.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    thanks for saving me a seat subs!

    by water_shit_anderson

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    The "they read more in the 1930s" isnt accurate

    by JackRabbitSlim

    There are more books published in the USA per capita now than ever before. To be precise, there were 10,352 books published in 1928 (i'm being generous - the number dropped to just under 8,000 in 1932) as opposed to 56,129 in 2008 ... and, no, the population did not quintuple in that time. <p> Perhaps you could use the argument Americans have more disposable income now (and we undeniably do) and people borrowed others' books more "back in the day" ... but the suggestion book sales are dying in USA is hideously inaccurate. <p> Now. music sales on the other hand...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Comment: unauthorized comment submitted.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    Removed at the request of Sony.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    by "books" i meant different titles btw

    by JackRabbitSlim

    Just to be accurate

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    You can download books illegally...

    by anonymoose

    ...and put them on ebook readers now. I don't see that as a danger to the print industry, though, since ebook readers are still so expensive. Also, I've never actually seen anyone anywhere have one of those things.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    JackRabbitSlim

    by toadkillerdog

    A lot of that increase can also be attributed to the rising literacy rate. <p> But I think the point being made was that previous generations enjoyed a greater breadth of classical literature as opposed to just the latest bodice-ripper. To be sure, bodice-rippers, and detective stories and pulp made up a good portion as well even back then.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    The danger in ebooks and their ilk

    by toadkillerdog

    Is that it becomes so easy and convenient to just download a book, that people will stop getting the print version. That is exactly what is happening to newspapers. I am guilty of reading most newspapers online now. I hate ebooks, and although I can not see myself ever allowing them to replace a good book, I can see myself become a minority if ebooks truly catch on.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    by anonymoose

    I was at a library recently and I noticed a kid sitting at a table playing with a Nintendo DS. Sad.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Wow...been quiet in here for an hour and a half...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Comedy Central is playing part 2 of the Imagination land episode of South Park...Love that episode...<p>Jesus and Wonder Woman sitting side by side...

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Saw District 9 tonight...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    all I gotta say is.....*in a Jerry Seinfeld voice* EEEEhhhhhh...could've been better. Alot better.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Toad...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    What is needed is a 9 1/2 X 11 inch clipboard size in every way...or maybe even smaller to carry in a purse or pocket. Book is released, pre-orders get first downloads...downloads replace the New York Times bestseller list..<p>Replacing all the timber to paper industry will save the environment and all but it will put many hundreds of thousands of people out of a job.<p>On the other hand, I will demand that prices for downloads stay below 10 bucks...no matter how big a down load...<p>Comics need to be the same way...<p>But, then we lose the geeky time we have talking to other geeks at the local comics shop, and many geeks might never even meet...<p>And, inside of 20 years no one will understand the Simpson's reference "Best Issue Ever"...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Hated to have to leave in the middle of that generational argume

    by Subtitles_Off

    A generation is defined by its intellectual curiosity.<P>I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me the singular musical icon of the 80's is Michael Jackson. That's revisionist theory because the noseless freak is dead, so now we're supposed to appreciate him. The singular musical icon of the 80s might be Madonna, sorry to inform you. The 80s was full of talentless crap, and she represents it better than anyone. The artisitc icon, musically, was Prince. Michael Jackson was an also-ran.<P>Look, Sly Stallone is the same age as Paul Mccartney. 4 years different. They're the same generation. You can't tell me Sly Stallone ever had his finger on any generational pulse. he's an aberration. Succesful, maybe. But, still, an aberration.<P>Tupac? Get out of here with that. 10% of the population - if that - can name a Tupac song.<P>Stubborn as I sound, I discovered my "cultural self" once I had dispensed with my twenties, and the obsession of that age to measure things by sales figures, and decided to cast my net beyond my immediate surroundings. Unless you have done that - unless you have really enjoyed the discovery of something that has always existed but you have ignored - then you really need to be cautious. Your mind is still waiting to be filled.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Good for you, cheyne.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You're absolutely right, RE: D9.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Once people stop reading books

    by Subtitles_Off

    Society will die. Reading teaches you the skill to think. To fill in the blanks. Technology teaches you nothing - it delivers you everything. Become dependent on technology at your own peril, kiddies.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Do books have to be on paper?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Hi, Subs...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Yes

    by Subtitles_Off

    Hi, Cheeses

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Look at this cost analysis...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    http://ireaderreview.com/2009/05/03/book-cost-analysis-cost-of-physical-book-publishing/<p>take out the spaces...of course...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Just got back from hanging with my young buds

    by Subtitles_Off

    And i told them about the time I did the macarena with "Diane" from the "Jack and Diane" video, and the three of them looked at me like I was speaking Latin with a Spanish accent.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:45 a.m. CST

    At least 22% is pulp...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Sorry..I didn't understand that last post...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Sounded like you were speaking french in Russian...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST

    What are you a capitalist?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Fuck your cost analysis. I fthey printed fewer crap books, they'd have more pulp available for the good stuff.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Just funnin'...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Love Jack and Diane and the macarena..<p>You fuck her?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    I'm just saying

    by Subtitles_Off

    They were unimpressed.<P>So, I showed them my "little ditty."

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Did you read diarrhea's

    by Subtitles_Off

    Batman re-envisionation over at 41811?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Fuck sounds so crass

    by Subtitles_Off

    But, it wasn't love-making, either - that's for sure.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Russian french

    by Subtitles_Off

    still sounds queer as all hell.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Capitalist...? Yeah...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    The author/creator gets 15% of a $29.99 hardcover. 15% of a 7.99 paperback. <p>That ain't right. Production costs account for much higher percenteges. <p>I might read more books if they were 22% cheaper...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I read some of Water-man's verbal diarreah...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I'm saving the rest until tomorrow...hard to follow syntax...need to be more intoxicated to truly enjoy it...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Blah, blah, blah, author, blah

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm having many thoughts at once because I can. Learning to read, I developed that skill.<P>The argument that we need to read books has nothing to do with authors' issues with publishers.<P>Writers who think they can come up with a more beneficial business model using digital technology, are spiting their face by feeding their nose to the dogs.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Of course publishers exploit authors

    by Subtitles_Off

    Publishers are capitalists and that is what capitalists do. Your argument is not against books. It is against capitalism.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:04 a.m. CST

    True, Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I love capitalism. But, I hate paying retail...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Still, there's the ecology issue...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    and, why is re-cycled paper more expensive than regular paper?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST

    I thought we, as a nation, just realized

    by Subtitles_Off

    that capitalists would sell us down a dried river. So, why all of a sudden, now, are we worried about FACKING drug companies and their competitive advantage or disadvantage against the government?<P>How much do you pay for drugs?<P>How is providing an alternative a challenge to competition? Competition requires more options not fewer. You've never had an option (unless of course you're rich). You've always been dependant on the choices made by your boss. If he decides he can pay X, you're health care will cost Y. You've got ZERO say.<P>What kind of fucking idiot is in favor of a corporation making their choices?<P>You hate the government but love Eli Lilly? Are you serious?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Because

    by Subtitles_Off

    Capitalists insist they have to spread the cost of the process on to the consumer. That's why recycled paper costs more.<P>You still haven't explained why we have to publish 3 million copies of crap with Fabio's picture on the cover.<P>Legally mandate that they use recycled paper and not pass the costs on to the book buyer. They'll survive. Maybe they'll survive by publishing less crap. Believe me, they'll find a way, and they'll still make money.<P>Fuck this noise.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    "How much do you pay for drugs..."

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Too goddamn much...$60 for an ounce of popcorn...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST

    And when...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..have I ever been serious?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I am always serious

    by Subtitles_Off

    Even when I'm being seriously funny.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Your not you're

    by Subtitles_Off

    You'd think somebody who read books would know the difference.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Capitalism is flawed...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Communism is flawed.<p>Fiefdom is flawed.<p>No human co-existance is without flaw.<p>It's kinda like the yellow impurity in the Green Lantern rings...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Flawed.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Capitalism isn't flawed. Capitalism is evil. The success of capitalists depends on the failure of other capitalists. Based more on luck and advantage than on value.<P>Ayn Rand can suck a dick. Pent-up cunt.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:21 a.m. CST

    I'm a mean drunk.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:21 a.m. CST

    3 million copies of a shit mag or comic...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    is a gamble by mis-informed idiots with authority that only serves to bulk up land fills...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Outlaw bulk mail.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You save a forest a day.<P>Who needs that?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Seriously

    by Subtitles_Off

    OUTLAW JUNK MAIL<P>Until the government does that, they're ecological concerns are obvious bull-shit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Cheeses

    by Subtitles_Off

    You seen D9 yet?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    I agree...Ban Junk Mail...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Every piece of mail I get offering me savings on a credit card or whatever, I cut out coupons from other junk mail and mail it back to them.<p>Hey, they pay the postage and somebody has get paid to open it...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    No...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I was gonna go Sunday....<p>But, then I got high...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Bulk mail is indefensible.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You don't ask for it.<P>You gain no benefit from it.<P>Resources are wasted creating and distributing it.<P>Get FACKING rid of it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    I have avoided spoilers...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    And that one chick at work keeps raving about it, but, since you guys all say it isn't the second coming of Star Wars, I might wait for the DVD...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Some capitalist is screaming right now

    by Subtitles_Off

    "Bulk mail is relatively inexpensive advertising!"<P>And the Pitney Bowes lobbyist is blowing a Congressman's cock.<P>Obama.<P>Get the FACK rid of bulk mail.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:34 a.m. CST

    It is, however,

    by Subtitles_Off

    the third coming of THE FLY.<P>Does that help your decision-making at all?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:37 a.m. CST

    I do have some free coupons to the local cinema/grill...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    But, I only saw one movie that way and I got pissed at all the servers moving around and the people sitting in front of me...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    When we are television moguls

    by Subtitles_Off

    we are going to live by our mission statement and provide the viewer with the best entertainment. Sure, we are going to become wealthy as a result of providing a service that people want, but we are not going to devote our every waking moment to maximizing our profits. We will be satisfied.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    I like stadium seating...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Guess I'm weird that way... <p>Now, if someone will just invent the THC patch, I will enjoy more movies in the theatre.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:40 a.m. CST

    You smoke out in the car in the parking lot...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    before the show...then by the time the previews are over, you're sober...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:40 a.m. CST

    You don't need to worry about that for D9

    by Subtitles_Off

    There isn't a single moment of that movie that is original.<P>So, if you miss a part when your server comes to your table, you haven't really missed anything, and you've gotten a cheeseburger.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    The Superhero Channel...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Will ALWAYS value content over profit...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Our country doesn't allow smoking in restaurants

    by Subtitles_Off

    but is ok with fucktards carrying assault rifles to Presidential speaking engagements.<P>WTF.<P>I remember not five years ago, people would be tased for wearing tee-shirts protesting Dubbya's criminal war.<P>We're well and truly fucked.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:44 a.m. CST

    60's Batman, 40's Superman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    90' M.A.N.T.I.S.....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Sorry

    by Subtitles_Off

    I don't know what M.A.N.T.I.S. is.<P>Is it some GI JOE thing?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    What's up with the hatred of smokers?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You go to a bar to trash your liver...<p>You figure you can speed up the dying process if you inhale toxic substances...<p>Then a bunch of whinny bitches claim they don't want to die that quickly...<p>And, once again....If drinking and driving is illegal, then why do bars have parking lots?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Fox show about a superhero with a self made exo-skeleton...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Wiki it...<p>I liked it...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:50 a.m. CST

    A black TV Superhero...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Prob'lly one of the first...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Question about the Super_Hero channel

    by Continentalop

    Will you have Black Scorpion on it?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST

    'Lop...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    If you want it on there...it will be on there...<p>I claim CEO status...Subs is Chief Operating Officer...You are now President of Programming...<p>POP for short...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:59 a.m. CST

    The whole anti-smoking thing is weird

    by Subtitles_Off

    And I don't even smoke.<P>There's not a single scientific proof of second-hand smoke causing cancer.<P>Cancer is just as likely caused by what we eat and our environment.<P>There isn't even indisputable evidence that smoking causes lung cancer. Certainly, it is a contributing factor to some cases, but some smokers never get lung cancer. Explain that.<P>The anti-smoking thing is just the result of some uppity bitch who didn't like the smell of her scarf when she got home from a night at a bar.<P>Which is a different argument than saying people who smoke shouldn't sacrifice some of their health care benefits. same for overweight people. You chose to live unhealthily, suffer the consequences.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 1:59 a.m. CST

    We will also have Green Hornet...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2 a.m. CST

    A POP I have a recommendation

    by Continentalop

    I think we should come up with our own original programming. And one of our shows should be about a sexy super-heroine who fights crime and has sex. Have it on after midnight. <p> Think of it as Red Shoe Diaries for the super-hero set.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    unhealthfully

    by Subtitles_Off

    God, I hate when I type ignorant shit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Original programming is a given

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's our bread and butter and strawberry jam.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Cheeses,

    by Continentalop

    Here is a description of Black Scorpion. Read it, you might want to change your mind: <P> http://tinyurl.com/mmmy4c

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Wasn't Adam West involved

    by Subtitles_Off

    with Black Scorpion?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Right on, Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I smoke cigars and weed...<p>I will be 47 this Saturday...<p>I have done everything I ever expected to do in this world except have a book published...<p>I just buried my 91 year old grandmother a month ago.<p>I do NOT want to spend the 20 + years she did alone in a nursing/hospice home... <p>That was the general consensus among my immediate family...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Yeah, no doubt

    by Subtitles_Off

    No one in my family has died before the age of 85.<P>That is a fucking nightmare to me.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:08 a.m. CST

    I would so plow Black Scorpion....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    As long as she wore that costume...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Damn

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm the oldest merfer in this jizz-oint by a year!<P>FACK!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:11 a.m. CST

    I think the Superhero_Channel should be...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    like ESPN...one channel for classics and one for original programming...ie. Not Marvel or DC...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST

    Jebus!

    by Subtitles_Off

    Let's get one on the air before we worry about a second, please.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Has anyone heard from Cobra-- Kai?

    by Subtitles_Off

    He wasn't banned like Youngdog?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Adam West was on it for one episode

    by Continentalop

    So was Frank Gorshin. I worked as a PA/Intern on the second Black Scorpion movie, and tried to get a job on the series but I think my mouth cost me the job.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Don't worry, Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    O'Bama is gonna open up Federal Funding for stem cell research soon and we'll all get to live to BUY shit forever...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Cobra wanders the tb

    by Continentalop

    Only showing up when he is needed. <P> Or he might be in jail.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST

    My mouth has cost me many a job, 'Lop...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Well

    by Subtitles_Off

    If stem cell research leads to a cure for Alzheimer's, it's okay. But, it won't happen in my lifetime, so kill me now. I don't mind.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Hey, I just got a collect call...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    from the Gotham City police department....<p>Think it might be Cobra Kia?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:20 a.m. CST

    I'm looking forward to Alzhiemers...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..then, I can quit buying this cheap swag...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST

    What is it with you, Cheeses?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Did Asimov teach you nothing?<P>It's KAI, not KIA.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST

    God, I do not want to have Alzheimer's.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST

    I don't even want to have an enlarged prostate.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST

    Didn't think anyone would notice...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    But, I guess you look for unfamiliar _'s more than you did since 10,000....<p>Am I wrong?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Quit poking a grizzly.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm still a little sore about all that.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST

    The real Asi was in here today.

    by Subtitles_Off

    And he wouldn't even say hello.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST

    And, he sounds like the last Kia I owned...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Always louder than he can push...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Saw that....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    About AsimovLives...<p>But, isn't it Ramadan over there now?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST

    I dunno.

    by Subtitles_Off

    But that's three times now he's ignored me utterly.<P>That hurts my feeling, and I only have the one.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Maybe the Sun went down...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..or somethin'....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:30 a.m. CST

    AssholeLives...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    DESERVES YOUR DIS-RESPECT!!!<P>Why was that all in caps?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Don't let the sun go down on me.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Although I search myself it's always someone else I see.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:32 a.m. CST

    THAT was unnecessary.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Did 'Lop

    by Subtitles_Off

    just pull a kamikaze?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Just allow a fragment of my mind...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    To wander FREE.....EEEE...<p>'Least that's how I remember it...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:36 a.m. CST

    'Cause losin' everything

    by Subtitles_Off

    'D be like the sun goin' down on me.<P>Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:37 a.m. CST

    God, kids today listen to shit.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Everything I do...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..is unnecessary.<p>It was a hard reality for me to face...<p>But...at the same time, very LIBERATING!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:38 a.m. CST

    When my grandpa'd say that, difference was,

    by Subtitles_Off

    he was wrong. I'm correct.<P>Kids today listen to shit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Have you seen them yet?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Ohhh, but they're so spaced out....<p>Bennie and the Jets....

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Yeah, well there's unnecessary and then

    by Subtitles_Off

    there's unnecessarily hurtful.<P>What'd Asi ever do to you?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:40 a.m. CST

    B...B...B..B..ba...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Bennie and they Jets...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:41 a.m. CST

    buh buh buh

    by Subtitles_Off

    Bennie and the Jets.<P>Oh, they're weird and wonderful<P>They got electric boots<P>And mohair suits<P>I seen it in a maga-zay-eeeen.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:42 a.m. CST

    RESPECT...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..in my dojo is earned...<p>Not based on name recognition.<p>Look where that got the 10K post Crisis...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Daniel is traveling tonight on a plane

    by Subtitles_Off

    I can see his red tail lights<P>Heading for Spai-ee-aa-ain.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:44 a.m. CST

    It's a' Friday night...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..and I'm feeling tight.<p>

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST

    I have no idea what you mean.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Get back<P>Honky cat<P>Better get back to the woods

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST

    I can see Daniel waving Goodbye...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Sorry I had to step out

    by Continentalop

    But I had to go over and resuscitate the Twitch TB.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:46 a.m. CST

    I hate not seeing it on the top 10

    by Continentalop

    Make it hard for us Twitchers to find it.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:47 a.m. CST

    God, he looks like Daniel

    by Subtitles_Off

    Must be the clouds in my eyes.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    here and now

    by Subtitles_Off

    I question 'Lop's loyalty<P>J-ccuse!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    BTW, Saturday Night is Alright for Fighting

    by Continentalop

    So feel free to pencil that in.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST

    I plead guilty

    by Continentalop

    I'm a two-timer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST

    When I think of those east end lights, muggy nights

    by Subtitles_Off

    Curtains drawn in the little room downstairs.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Prima donna lord, you really shoulda been there

    by Subtitles_Off

    Sitting like a princess perched in her electric chair

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Somebody somebdy should have been there...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Perched all alone in your electric chair...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:54 a.m. CST

    It's one more beer, and I don't hear you any more

    by Subtitles_Off

    We've all gone crazy lately<P>My friends are out there<P>rolling 'round the basement floor

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Some one saved my life tonight...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Sugarbear...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:55 a.m. CST

    You nearly had me roped and tied...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Someone saved my life tonight

    by Subtitles_Off

    sugar bear

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Altar bound...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Hypnotized..<p>Thank God my music'sstill alive...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Going to say something about Spider-Man

    by Continentalop

    I just realized how much Raimi, Avi Arad, Ziskin, and Sony just didn't get the character. Think about it; in the Spider-Man movies he is treated as a hero. People help him fight the Green Goblin, try to stand up against Doc Oct, hold a parade for him after saving Gwen Stacy, and he is always looked at with admiration. Even Aunt May talks nice about him. <P> Does this sound like the Spidey from the comics? Hell no. In the comics people hated him even after he saved their asses. The point was that he did the right thing because it was right, even if it didn't make him popular. It isn't hard to be a hero when people admire you and like it, it is when you sometimes wonder what the point of being a hero when people will just hate you tomorrow. <P> Another fuck up that goes on my list.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Dinchoo dear?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Altar-bound, hypnotized

    by Subtitles_Off

    Sweet freedom whispered in my ear

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Beat you by mere seconds...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Well gents, good night

    by Continentalop

    I bid you adieu. If you have time, post in Twitch so it doesn't die again.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:58 a.m. CST

    You're a butterfly

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST

    And butterflies are free to fly

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST

    You're a Butterfly...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    And butterflies are free to fly...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Fly away

    by Subtitles_Off

    High away<P>Bye-bye<P>ooh-ooh-ooh

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Fuck...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3 a.m. CST

    That was fun...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:01 a.m. CST

    It's four o'clock in the morning

    by Subtitles_Off

    Damn it<P>Listen to me good

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:02 a.m. CST

    I'm sleeping with myself tonight

    by Subtitles_Off

    wasting time<P>Thank God my music's still alive

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:02 a.m. CST

    My old man is drunker than a barrel full of monkeys...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    And my old lady, she don't care...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Subs....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    How are you gonna recap yourself in the morning?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:03 a.m. CST

    My sister looks cute

    by Subtitles_Off

    In her ribbons and boots<P>a handful of breeze in her hair

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Tomorrow's recap?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Piece of FACKING cake, compared to today's.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Notes for today fit on a single page.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Yesterday filled two and two-thirds pages.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:08 a.m. CST

    I thought it was a handfull of grease in her hair..

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST

    we all thought that

    by Subtitles_Off

    but it's breeze<P>I looked it up once.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST

    My Best friend floats in the bottom of a glass...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Truer words have never been spoken...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Online lyrics archives...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..Vary greatly...<p>Grease makes more sennse...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:12 a.m. CST

    And now I know

    by Subtitles_Off

    spanish harlem are not just pretty words to say

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:12 a.m. CST

    And sense...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:13 a.m. CST

    I thought I knew

    by Subtitles_Off

    but now I know<P>that rose trees never grow<P>in New York City

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Grease does NOT make more sense

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's not a fifties song<P>Besides, breeze is much more poetic<P>and it's breeze in the liner notes<P>fuck online lyric wank

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Lost me on that one...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Still Elton?<p>I was expecting Lion king songs...<p>The CIRCLE of life...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Mona Lisas and Mad hatters

    by Subtitles_Off

    some are lawyers, some are bankers<P>Turn around and say good morning to the night

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:18 a.m. CST

    And unless they see the sky

    by Subtitles_Off

    but they can't , and that is why<P>they know not if it's dark outside or light

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:20 a.m. CST

    A handful of 'BREEZE' in her hair...?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Very poetic licence...<p>Grease in the hair was sexy in London when that song came out...<P>Jusrt ask GE...I mean, MadfuckingMax...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST

    In the circle of life

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's the wheel of fortune<P>It's a leap of faith<P>[something something] hope<P>Un til we find our place on a path unwinding<P>It's the circle<P>the circle of life

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:23 a.m. CST

    It's not "grease"

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's "breeze"<P>Fuck off anyone who says otherwise.<P>I've got the vinyl album notes right in front of my face.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:23 a.m. CST

    The context is...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    My sister looks cute, in her britches and boots...<p>A handful of grease is a totally appropriate interpretation...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:26 a.m. CST

    You're wrong

    by Subtitles_Off

    Just admit it or fuck right off.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Okay...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I respect the vinyl album notes...<p>Still seems in appropriate...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:27 a.m. CST

    actually

    by Subtitles_Off

    it isn't "ribbons" or "britches"<P> it's BRACES

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:28 a.m. CST

    What's your take on Suger Bear...?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Is that confirmed by SongLyrics.com?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:29 a.m. CST

    I'm certain sugar bear is correct

    by Subtitles_Off

    I don't even need to look that up<P>And always, FACK lyrics.com

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Man, it's morning already

    by Subtitles_Off

    innit?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Elton John's sister...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Wears braces...<p>Or, needs podiacal enhancements...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Morning is cool...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Long as you can afford to sleep 'til noon or later...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:35 a.m. CST

    They'll get their recap

    by Subtitles_Off

    when I'm damn good and ready to give it.<P>Who DEFUCK started this recap shit anyway, and why was I nominated?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Shit

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's like an unemployed merfer can't go out and get drunk anymore, because he's gotta write some fucking recap for some guys who are too lazy to scroll the FACK up.<P>Jebus!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:38 a.m. CST

    I won't be up 'til one or two....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..And I was here...<p>So, fuck 'em, Subs...Let them wait til you're ready...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:38 a.m. CST

    My momma told

    by Subtitles_Off

    me they'd just take me for granted if I went around with my dick dangling out like that.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST

    And, if you're never ready...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..that's okay, too...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Let Orcus

    by Subtitles_Off

    bring his fat, unmoving ass around here and write a FACKING recap.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:41 a.m. CST

    No it innit.

    by Subtitles_Off

    They want a FACKING recap, by Bale, they're gonna get a damn recap!<P>And<P>They're gonna like it, too!<P>Dammit!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Subs...You are my hero...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I just get wasted and type...<p>You have always cared...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:45 a.m. CST

    I'm gonna recap this shit so good

    by Subtitles_Off

    I might even make shit up, and they'll be all "when did that happen?" And, I'll laugh. Yeah, I'll laugh like abitch that just got singled out 'cause she was sittin front row - Dane Cook.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST

    I'll recap this shit so good

    by Subtitles_Off

    It'll still be fizzy when they re-open it.<P>That's right, merfers!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST

    This is how MY recap would go...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    FUCK...ny head hurts...<p>Who was here last night?<p>Who the fuck are you? And, how did you get in here?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Don't even uncap this bitch

    by Subtitles_Off

    Cause I already recapped it.<P>Yeah, sons!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Where's my fifth of Crown?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Cheeses just wrote the recap for y'all, bitches

    by Subtitles_Off

    How you like Dem Apples?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:52 a.m. CST

    This morning after my recap

    by Subtitles_Off

    I had some sumbitch accuse me of having no life. <P>I mean, shamone!<P>Recap this, merfer!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:54 a.m. CST

    As I typed that

    by Subtitles_Off

    I was grabbing my junk like a New Jersey-ite.<P>Just sose you knows.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Saw that slight, Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Who's life includes scanning talkbacks to find a place he can insult and feel better about himself...?<p>Seriously?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Sumbitch whose mouth tastes

    by Subtitles_Off

    like my piss, that's who's.<P>I'm just sayin.'

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Just remember...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    for every person self confident enough to post here, there are dozens if not hundreds of people who lurk...<p>They will never contribute to anything but their own demise...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:01 a.m. CST

    AICN HAS an audience...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:01 a.m. CST

    You really think we got lurkers?

    by Subtitles_Off

    That just might be the saddest thought ever.<P>Bitches type something please.<P>It's not like we're naked ladies, and it's fun to gawk at us.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Damn

    by Subtitles_Off

    Now I gotta go to bed all sad and shit.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:03 a.m. CST

    That "demise" line...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    ..is a sure sign that I need to GO to bed.... <p>I'm off all day tomorrow...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:05 a.m. CST

    G'night

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm putting the lurkers in tomorrow's recap.<P>Suck on that, y'all anonymous y'alls.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    What you type today will be your legacy of tomorrow...<p>Embrace your place in existance...<p>And, never go to bed sad...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:09 a.m. CST

    Dying in your sleep...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    is the best way to go...<p>After a massive coranary dumping your semen into a hot cum dumpster...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Like in Private Benjamin....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Fucked to death by Goldie Hawn in the opening credits..<p>I volunteer...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:15 a.m. CST

    With that...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I call NYTOL...<p>See you later, Subs...

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 4:18 a.m. CST

    spiderman movies are unwatchable

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    i cannot watch those melodramatic blubbering boreshits with that saggy pussy granny, snaggletooth and zero personality toby mcguyver. what a miserable mess of a series.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 7:17 a.m. CST

    hows everyone in the ZODIBAC doing this fine morn?

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST

    you want Asi?

    by Six Demon Bag

    just wait for a TREK thread...like a shark to blood.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    I'll go toe to toe..

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..with Asi about Trek. I've done it before I'll do it again. I understand Subs' loyalty to the crazy portuguese bastard but at the same time it IS possible to love someone and tell them they are wrong. To be honest it isn't about Trek anymore - its more about being so filled with pain about ANYTHING that you find yourself in a world of hurt.<P>I don't want to see ANYONE I like living in that place.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    avatar? what'cha thinking?

    by savagedave

    eyeballs fiddled with? I like it

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    ominus, i'm a few days late...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...but I think you'll find that many of those crappy Greek hero movies are actually Italian. Don't blame us!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Put the cap on the toothpaste, or it gets crusty.

    by Subtitles_Off

    AVAVATAR SCHMAVATAR That shit can't even buy my eyes dinner. I don't remember yesterday. And, I'm having a hard time reading my notes... 42071 Anticipation for EVIL DEAD4 (never gonna happen) and upcoming video games. At 1:30:29 p.m. The Backpedalers held the top three positions in AICN 's Top Ten Talkbacks. It lasted six minutes. Organic web-shooters mess 'Lop up as much as Baleman's rubber muscles mess with me. anonymoose had a harrowing experience, witnessing a violent mugging / fight / possible homicide. I've told you before, the tears of men are nothing to be ashamed of. Belgium. Movies? Or just waffles? The stubbornness of youth. The smell of old people. The Generation Gap was discussed. No conclusions were made. It was discovered that I'm the oldest merfering backpedaler. Cheeses thinks books should become ipods, or something. On this subject, Cheeses is smoking crack. Also, Elton John songs were sung with mangled lyrics. Liner notes were drawn. Somebody explain liner notes to the youngies. Alcohol makes some people mean. It draws their bitterness to the surface and twists it into an ugly, foul-breathed, loud and murderous thing. Other people can handle their booze. 41811 savage says those of us who have taken refuge @ 42071 are weak! Still no word from Orcus. I think Orcus may be a myth, but one of our clan claims to met him. He was yanking Yeti chain at the time while riding The Loch Ness Monster doggie-style. At 1:30:29 p.m. The Backpedalers held the top three positions in AICN 's Top Ten Talkbacks. It lasted six minutes. A list of stand-up comedians. Dane Cook was mentioned. Daniel Tosh and Demetri Martin weren't. Eddie Murphy was a comedian? Really? The Disney dude? Stephen King's Favorite Summer Films. I was surprised that four of the ten are actually good. Fresh apple turnovers! Yum! water_shit re-envisionated batman for the next generation, and if you aren't a noob and open your mind, you'll know. Mr_George_Kaplan suggests longer poles. Men always suggest longer poles. It's our answer to everything. Where's everybody? Looking at AVATAR shit? I was in a comic book store with nine people yesterday, and eight of those people didn't even know what AVATAR was. Thing is beginning to smell like an expensive SNAKES ON A PLANE.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Insert your own < p > s

    by Subtitles_Off

    Today's re-cap was inter-active. Sorry.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Mercury is in all fish.

    by Subtitles_Off

    We did it! We fucked up the entire ocean! Man! We are awesome!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Plaxico Burress is now somebody's bitch.

    by Subtitles_Off

    He's the NFLer who shot himself in the thigh at a nightclub. He's going to jail for two years. When he gets out, they'll give him a multi-million dollar position on a new team.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Phil Spector wants a transfer.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Plaxico Burress suggests he take his bitch-hood like a man.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Avatar is about the only thing my wife won't fuck

    by water_shit_anderson

    Not what I expected. <p> A very enjoyable recap subster. And to answer your question...sandster, slingster, the docster, jokerster, and the phantom are pretty much interchangable. Batman must defeat them all.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    CIA paid Blackwater millions

    by Subtitles_Off

    to sit around playing video games and watch Rambo. And talk about how thick their junk is.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Lockerbie terrorist released.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Gets on an airliner to Libya. If karma exists, that fucker's going down.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Tony Danza to "co-teach" high school english

    by Subtitles_Off

    Learn through example, children.<P>At least the real teacher will be present to correct him.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    how can they release a bomber?

    by Six Demon Bag

    DEFUCK.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    And he will dammit

    by Subtitles_Off

    He will defeat them all. I know because I opened my mind, and I'm not a noob

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    How can they make

    by Subtitles_Off

    motion-capture Blue Meenies?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    If Batster can ever live down those rape charges

    by water_shit_anderson

    and face facts about his tights wearing son, Metropoville just might have a chance. <p> Speaking of douchebag criminals maybe bats should skip all those other guys and give cameron a lesson in photorealistic face punching.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    No jury will convict Batster.

    by Subtitles_Off

    He can rape at will like Kobe.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Spiermanster, however

    by Subtitles_Off

    better keep condoms on his wrists.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    now that you mention it subster

    by water_shit_anderson

    i think Dr Bryant would be a good sidekick for battleman!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    David Copperfield sued for sexual assault.

    by Subtitles_Off

    David Copperfield. Sex.<P>Let it marinate.<P>That's what magic is, David Blaine. <P>Sex. With girls.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Afghanis with purple fingers.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Democracy, baby.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Obama meets the stars of NASCAR.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Really? He's got nothing better to do?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Who DEFUCK

    by Subtitles_Off

    is Kourtney Kardashian, and why is she on my MSN.com?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Nascar summit

    by water_shit_anderson

    the only thing I can see that has a right to put the economic recovery on hold.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    When

    by Subtitles_Off

    did Bradley Cooper get big enough he could dump Jennifer Aniston?<P>Dope, become a superhero in a movie first before you expect us to give a shit about you.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    MySpace buys iLike

    by Subtitles_Off

    Big deal becomes big FACKING deal.<P>I'm friending you now with my tweets.<P>Is it working?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    There's a real thing called Concours d'Elegance

    by Subtitles_Off

    Where rich, old white fucks drive their Rolls Royce's around and act like they're better than you.<P>This isn't France, people. This is Pebble Beach.<P>Poofdahs.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Economy is recovered.

    by Subtitles_Off

    It is now ok to throw rotten fruit at the unemployed again.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Forbes lists 100 Most Powerful Women

    by Subtitles_Off

    95 of them can't get laid.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Doc Kobewahwah and Batster

    by Subtitles_Off

    Riding side by side in the pod, sippin on gin and juice.<P>Metropo bitches won't be able to buy a cherry.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    The Census Bureau terminated my employment today..

    by water_shit_anderson

    I was pretty sure it was over when they told me they had no work for me to do back in may. I guess its official now. <p> Somebody throw some fruit at me

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Dumb-nuts NBAer tweets while he's arrested.

    by Subtitles_Off

    The next phase of evolution: Humans born with their heads already up their own asses.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    you know they are blastin beats out of that thing.

    by water_shit_anderson

    fuckn ground starts to rumble and the bitches know theres a warrent out for the arrest of their sexual dignity.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Don't worry, diarrhea.

    by Subtitles_Off

    By losing your job, you helped some corporate fuck improve his bottom line. You did your part to get capitalism back on its zombie legs. Your misfortune has made a stockholder smile.<P>Isn't that what it's all about?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    warrant*

    by water_shit_anderson

    one of these days spelling is going to start to climb my priorities list

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Why so serious, hos?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Shake it like a polaroid picture.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Ah hell

    by Subtitles_Off

    Fuck spelling with Cheeses' dick.<P>Spelling don't matter when you live during The Age of The Dumb-nut.<P>All that matters is that Batster engages his chubby and saves Metropo.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    yeah that makes it feel better

    by water_shit_anderson

    The employment was supposed to last for awhile, but suspiciously we workers kept receiving frantic messages from our supe's about how we should speed up. The fact that my employment with them lasted about 1/10 of the length it was supposed to leads me to believe I wasn't one of the people to reap the benefits of "hurry up we're almost there!@#@#%!!!"

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Batster and Doc Kobasaki Vs. Sandster/assorted tail

    by water_shit_anderson

    Batman 8 is sure to be a smash!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    My supervisor told me

    by Subtitles_Off

    "Mike, we're fortunate, in this economy to work for a company that cares about its employees."<P>Two weeks later that bitch was crying about having to close my entire department down and how it was the saddest day of his life.<P>In front of seventeen people, I told him to grow a pair. "You'll have your job tomorrow."<P>Twats.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    27 years, working harder than any of them.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Fuck off, son. The War on Terror hasn't gone quite the way we expected.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    And FOX News wants you

    by Subtitles_Off

    to worry about the insurance companies.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Not if Nolan directs it.

    by Subtitles_Off

    He read your script and didn't understand it.<P>Closed-minded noob.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    damn

    by water_shit_anderson

    That sucks man. <p> Batster would kick the shit out of those fucks if he got ahold of this information.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    too bad those corporate cool guys

    by water_shit_anderson

    are also in charge of the movie industry. <p> My script for batman 8 is too classy for them. <p>

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Even Batster ain't the hero we need.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Just the hero we deserve.<P>Or some confusing shit like that.<P>"You live long enough to become a fucktard or you die without getting yout taint tickled."<P>What DEFUCK was TDK really about?<P>"Escalation!" yells the crowd of fanboys.<P>"Nothing," whispers the one dude who knows.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    well...i think its time for a smoke break

    by water_shit_anderson

    and a cuppa brew. <p> Keep it real subster. If you see batster tell him i think my wife needs a good fucking...shes been irritable today. <p> later!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    gonna be one of those weekends--

    by Six Demon Bag

    AVATAR SUCKS/NO SUCKS!

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Peace in pieces, broheme.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    6DB

    by Subtitles_Off

    You can cheat on The Pedalback.<P>I mean.<P>We all expect that every once in awhile. The mind wanders. The eyes see something shiny. A man's gotta dip his wick in that, or he ain't a man. It's excusable.<P>But AVATAR? Really?<P>AVATAR is for pimpled boys who ain't got their first taste of real pussy yet.<P>Do NOT cheat on The Pedalback with AVATAR.<P>We will be forced to take the 10K away from you.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Because 6DB...

    by Mr_George_Kaplan

    ..he didn't fucking do it.<P>Read the excellent investitigative journalism by Paul Foot and John Ashton to find out more about how governments are willing to trade peoples souls (270 in this instance) for diplomatic relations.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    George

    by Subtitles_Off

    That sounds much more important than who Bradley Cooper is fucking.<P>Can you please track down some url or something, so I can learn something?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Investigative journalism

    by Subtitles_Off

    That's so 1970s.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Investigative journalism

    by Subtitles_Off

    Is not allowed in America. We're cracking down on that kind of elitist thing.<P>Did you hear about the sports asshole who tweeted while getting arrested?

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Investigative journalism

    by Subtitles_Off

    ruined the legacy of one Republican Presidential sumbitch.<P>That's why America outlawed investigative journalism.<P>Investigative journalism is a bummer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Investigative journalism

    by Subtitles_Off

    was abducted by U.F.O.s over The Bermuda Triangle.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    The Powers That Be will tell you

    by Subtitles_Off

    that one man's "investigative journalism" is another man's "conspiracy theory." Thusly, The Powers That Be keep the truth polybagged and catalogued.<P>Look over there! Some celebrity has a sex tape on YouTube!<P>Easy answers, baby. The truth? It's no longer mint. it's edges are frayed, and it's marred by too many fingerprints.<P>http://tinyurl.com/myw9tm

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    The backlash against the AVATAR footage

    by MadFuckingMax

    I don't understand.<P>I waited all day to see it having read the hatred its venting, and it is stunning.<P>It looks cartoony, granted. But it looks pehnomenal.<P>The effects work is easily the best I've ever seen. The Na'vi look like they could be real, or at least be standing there in cartoony suits with lifelike properties.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Max

    by Subtitles_Off

    It is a natural and instinctive backlash against hype.<P>When you are told something will change everything, and that something limply flashes you a small penis, you are likely to say wait-a-minute.<P>The hype machine has done AVATAR an irrevocable dis-service.<P>Whether it blows your mind or not, it's a movie with cartoon characters running around blowing shit up. That's all that it is.<P>That's really not a game changer.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Why am I not surprised

    by Subtitles_Off