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SCOOBY DOO' Who's Writing You'
Hey folks, Harry here. Ya know... Sometimes there are projects that just never ever seem to move out of development, and the SCOOBY DOO film is one of those. Developed forever and forever. They had a prefectly fun script from Craig Titley once, but then due to a studio acquisition... His script was thrown out simply because... other execs had been in charge of it, and with them gone... everything they were developing had to be shit... Right? Sigh. Then Mike Myers got his paws on it and turned in a script that the buzz is so low on that noone is willing to waste paper in getting me a draft. So now they turn to James Gunn. Well, he wrote TROMEO AND JULIET... and THE SPECIALS, a movie in the theme of MYSTERY MEN, but produced by those wacky cool guys that created FREE ENTERPRISE. I have never read this writer's work, BUT... He has got to be a child of Scooby Doo cause he was born in 1970, and no male child born in that year or 5 years either side of it, is not by definition a Scooby Doo freak. We all are. So... I look forward to his draft. Perhaps he'll get it. Of course, they could always go back to the really cool draft that they already own, but probably have never read... Nahhhh... That'd never happen. I have my fingers crossed on this, I love Scooby.
Hey Harry.
James Gunn has been hired to write Warner Bros. Scooby-Doo, which will be
produced by Chuck Roven. Gunn recently did a rewrite of Spy vs. Spy for Jay
Roach, and now is rewriting Scooby Doo. Mike Myers and Jay Kogan previously
wrote a script for it, but withdrew after the script was rejected.
-KidHendrix
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I think a Scooby-Doo movie would only work if it showed many of the things we think about that show and do not say - Shaggy the ultimate stoner bud, smoking with his dog and eating everything in sight, Thelma as lesbian and the other two (I can't remember their names, can you believe that?!?! Still, it's five in the morning...) getting it on at every opportunity...Man, this movie won't happen.
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Aug 19, 1999 3:35:53 AM CDT
My GOD........its the end of the world and the planets aren't ev
by mademan
Has Hollywood become so dry of ideas that they are scraping the barrel of the bucket with Scooby Doo and a Flinstones SEQUEL!!!!! I'm starting to use my Y2K rations!!!!
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I love the Scooby episodes, I always like the ghost ones.
I want to see Scooby, if done right.
If they stay close as possible to the cartoon, then they are on the money.
I wonder who would play the chick and the one with glasses ?
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I say Janeane Garofalo as Velma and Dennis Hopper as the grumpy caretaker who dresses up as the ghost.
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These are the questions movie buffs now have to think about : will Scooby Doo a real dog or a CGI one. Can anyone bring back real cinema ? Pleeaase ?
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Well, just calling this movie "Scooby-Doo" would be too dull. They need a title that conveys the same goofy charm of the original cartoons, one that seems foreboding but is in fact just silly and meaningless. Of course, that title is "Scooby-Doo Meets the Phantom Menace."
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Scooby Doo will eventuall get made and I for one am glad to see Mike Myers distanced from the project, can you imagine Shaggy and Scooby chasing a ghost and Mike's Shaggy keeps turning and talking to the camera. Myers childish pants&Farts type of humour is not right for Scooby Doo. Scooby Doo the film should be a cross between Poltergeist and Rogger Rabbit. Let Joe Dante direct it and Shaggy should be played by Johnny (Sell out) Depp who has the look of Shaggy and will have no problem compromising his artisic needs to appear in a big-budget effects film(Sadly).
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Harry, i was born 10 (or so) after 1970, and still am a big fan....
Scooby has transcended generations... give'em credit!
I still watch them when i can, and i'll be the first in line... -
...or was it my imagination?
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Why can't we have the Mystery Van come up to a old mansion in western Massachusetts. We discover that it is haunted by the spirits of children killed by an evil 19th century industrialist, and is occupied by a creepy caretaker and his wife. Too bad that the makers of "The Haunting" could not go this route. They were halfway there. All it needed was a Great Dane and Scooby Snacks (Special Brownies?). It would have been great.
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Aug 19, 1999 6:19:43 AM CDT
Who in the hell is gonna see this thing if Mike Myers isn't invo
by mike d
Really....who's gonna go see the thing?!
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Aug 19, 1999 6:29:29 AM CDT
Didn't Scooby Doo already appear in a movie? I think he was goi
by r_dimitri22
Your comment about the title was very funny, Wally Ballou. Actually, the first time I heard that "The Phantom Menace" was the title, I said something along the lines of: "That sounds like the title of an episode of Scooby Doo!"
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Does anyone know what the status of this project is? I've heard Rob Lowe is involved . . . .
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I don't know the specials, but I absolutely love Tromeo and Juliet. I rented it on a whim one day last year because my roommate was going to be in Romeo and Juliet later on as Romeo, and I couldn't get enough. I ended up buying the DVD. I have seen it like 50 times, and I show it to anyone willing. Some of my friends were disturbed by it, some loved it, but everyone laughs at it a little. My girlfriend just saw it with me a week or so ago, and she hated the gratuitous gore and sex scenes, but she really liked the rest of it a lot. This is due mostly to James Gunn's script. It is really very funny.
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The thought of a CGI Scooby doesn't do much for me. I like the "Babe" route better. As for Scaggy, I always thought David Arquette (sp?), the 1-800-ATT guy, would be prefect. He's young enough to pull off the pesky kid routine, and he even looks a little like him.
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It has to be "Spike" from Notting Hill - so long as a welshman can do a surfer-dude accent.
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Aug 19, 1999 7:41:16 AM CDT
James Gunn once had an idea for a Scooby-Doo cameo in TROMEO & J
by frank reynolds
I worked with James Gunn on TROMEO AND JULIET (I edited it), and he once told me that he had an idea for putting a Scooby-Doo cameo in TROMEO. In the scene where there's a big fight on the street, and Tyrone gets his arm pulled off by the station wagon... well, he said that at one point he wanted the station wagon to be a big green van like the Mystery Machine, and when Tyrone's arm gets pulled off, we were going to cut to the inside of the van, and have Fred, Velma, Daphne and Shaggy lookalikes look shocked. James thought that since he didn't actually mention Scooby-Doo, he wouldn't need the rights, but for whatever reason, Troma nixed the idea. James wanted to play Shaggy himself and he could have pulled it off. James did have a cameo in the movie: he was the father of the family that got flipped in the car...but when he hair gets longer he looks a lot like Shaggy. -
I've got the perfect plot for a Scooby movie: The gang is off in the woods of Maryland, Scooby, Shaggy, and Velma get separated and wind up lost in the woods, weird shit starts going down and they begin to wonder if there really is a Blair Witch . . . but in the end it's just Old Mister Caruthers who runs the haunted amusement park. Seriously, though, I almost want this to happen 'cause I love Scooby and it would be too cool if it were done right. I like the idea of Jeanine Garafolo as Velma, Brad Pitt (think 12 MONKEYS mode) for Shaggy, Heather Graham for Daphne (woo hoo!), and some one, I don't know, some pretty boy as Fred. And a CGI scooby that would knock your socks off, 'cause let's face it, a real dog ain't gonna be able to do all the cool shit Scooby could do, like jumping into Shaggy's arms or shoveling a 12-foot sandwich into his mouth. Oh, and contrary to what another poster said above, I don't think Velma was a lesbian. Really! I mean, we all know Fred was schtuping Daphne behind the water tower while the rest of the gang was running for their lives (and who could blame him? she's yummy), but I always felt that something might be going on between Velma and Shaggy, too. Or might have happened, if Shaggy could ever ditch the Scoobster long enough to get busy . . .
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A live action movie with a real/cgi dog would be great IF it was patterned after an orignal Scooby Doo show like "The Creeper". You know, the shows with the singing during the climatic chase. I think Janeane Garofalo as Velma is a good pick and Jim Carrey as Shaggy, it's an easy pick, he has the build and the facial expressions for the part. So there.
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You know in these days and times this movie will focus on the questions like is Velma gay, why does Shaggy eat all the time and still look like a stick, and what is actually in those Scooby snacks?
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was shagging daphne. daphne had the hots for fred, but the guy is gay! I mean, come on, how many straight guys wear scarves like that? velma is bi, at least. the only reason she sticks around (other than the thrill of constantly losing her glasses) is to oggle daphne. i mean, didn't we all?
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David Arquette (although annoying) is shaggy. Heather Graham would be the perfect Daphne. Christina Ricci would be excellent as Velma. Finally, that James Vanderbeek guy would be perfect as that flit, Fred. Hey, I already know it's perfect. You people must simply lack my vision. SKYLEWALKER
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God help us all, aaaarrrr!
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Where are you guys hiding? Scooby stuff is out there!Lunch boxes, Stuffed Scoobies, and all sorts of crap. In fact, Scooby Doo and Zombie Island did so well that they're doing another one. PS- I think Kasem didn't doo Shaggy in Zombie, so who knows about future projects.
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Johnny Depp
George Clooney
Winona Ryder
Liz Hurley
CGI Dog
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Now here's the way to properly do a Scooby flick. Get whoever wrote that first Brady Bunch movie from a few years back to spoof the thing. Doesn't anybody else get it? An insanely popular show from the 70's that makes no sense just begs to be spoofed onscreen. Include all the questions us fans have thought about for years... is Velma gay? Were Fred and Daphne getting it on every chance they got? If it's handled the way that Brady movie was it could be perfect. Remember the scene where the Tacklebury/Butcher shows up in the middle of the night in the house and we see Alice in some freaky S&M outfit in the shadows? Hilarious stuff confirming every fan boys deep heated discussion back in college about what exactly was in those scooby snacks?
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How about Craig Kilborn as Fred?
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Why would you reject a script by Mike Myers and Jay Roch. I mean, even if it wasn't that funny, why would you reject a script by those two. Also, I like Skylewalkers' casting ideas, they would be perfect but most of those actors probably wouldn't go near this.
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Why not get Joe Ruby and Ken Spears, the guys who *ORIGINALLY CREATED* Scooby-Doo, to write the script?
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Aug 19, 1999 11:40:11 AM CDT
So Mike Myers's script was deemed unfunny and unsuitable, eh?
by w. leach
No surprise there. With Myers attatched, the live action SCOOBY DOO could have been another HOWARD THE DUCK.
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I've often wondered if this would be made into a movie (like everything else they've pulled from my childhood).
I agree with an earlier post that David Arquette would be a good choice for Shaggy. I also think Kevin Bacon would be good, too. In fact, a while ago (a year or two) I remember seeing him on the Tonight Show when he said he'd be interested in doing the part. He even had the "Shaggy-walk".
Like everyone else it seems I don't remember the redhead's name (a.k.a. Babe), but I think Nicole Kidman would be a good choice. And make Scooby CGI, that's the only way he can come across the way he was intended. -
PISSSSSSS OFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!
I do think george Clooney would have made a good Fred like was rumoured but the only problem is, he's not exactly a "pesky kid" anymore! Very do-able though...phworghhhh!!! =0) -
First of all, ***WHAT the hell*** I admit to watching Scooby Doo as a child, but, now, as an adult, I by no means belong to the Cult of Scooby that will surely scream bloody murder at the bastardization of their cherished cartoon icon. Still, it doesn't take the combined intelligencia of a troop of baboons to realise this is a horrid idea. If The Flintstones, Mr. Magoo, Inspector Gadget, etc. didn't convince you of that, well, then you need a lobatomy or something. Could it be done well? Of course there's the chance. But, really now, should it!?! If they really want to translate a cartoon to celluloid I suggest trying something along the lines of ExoSquad (one HELL!!! of a cartoon that should have never been cancelled!!!!) or something that won't just turn into another forgettable farce.
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This has been one of the funniest talkbacks since I've been coming here. Anyway, I am in total agreement with those who say David Arquette for Shaggy and Heather Graham for Daphne. Jeannine Garafalo would be cool for Velma, but I think she's getting a little too old. Christina Ricci would be great. As for Fred, I'm thinking Craig Kilborn would be the perfect choice. But it would probably be the Dawson's Creek guy. And, of course, CGI Scooby to round out the cast. And they must have some of those cheesy songs that used to play over all the chases. Anyhow, I'm a big fan, but my girlfriend is an even bigger fan! So, Warner Bros., get your asses to it already!
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I think the actor that played Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off (can't think of his name at the moment, sorry) would make a splendid Shaggy. Of course, I think he's 95 years old now, which may be a problem. Just my two cents.
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i'm proud to say that after a hard week of 9 to 5, i loosen the tie, slip off the wing tips, collapse on the couch and smoke a bowl or two. it wasn't so long ago that i was ripped to the gills and ended up watching 'the brady bunch movie' (not through any conscious decision - it just happened to be on), and i laughed myself fucking stupid. yes, i know everything a hoot when you're polluted, but my point is if you're going to do a scooby movie (and it's a pretty frickin' stoopid idea), you'd better use that 'brady' tone...it's the only way it could work. by the way, w. harrelson for fred, h. graham for daphne, j. garofalo for velma and b. fraser for shaggy. get a real dog a la 'babe' for scooby rather than CGI or one of the most beloved cartoon characters of my youth (right up there with the herculoids and the entire cast of wacky races) will become a jar jar binks like pariah. and does anyone else think that 'rocky and bullwinkle' movie is going to suck like jenna jameson?
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...is what the Scooby Doo movie will be. Why bother? Actually showing Shaggy and Scooby drinking bong water won't be funny. It's more fun to assume that Shaggy was a stoner.
The only funny joke about that show was the caretaker as ghost ending. They already spoofed that in Wayne's World.
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Is there a Shmoo movie in the works as well? What about the CB Bears while we're at it!!!!
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Ok, this movie would have to hint too all that stuff that all the fans have speculated about the cartoon, but not out right state it. Like, show Velma staring fondly at Daphne, and show daphne and Fred a little to egerly advising that the team split up, and show Shaggy and Scooby acting a bit high after whiping out the scooby snacks. But don't have Velma out right say that she is a lesbian, or dont show Daphne and Fred making out while the others are off investigating, or don't out right show Shaggy making the silly buiscuts. Just hint at it, like the cartoon did, but a bit more obvious. --- There are many that could play shaggy. Like the obvious David Arquett(I sure hope thats the 1-800-CALL-ATT guy. If not, then I feel kinda stupid) and the "it's so not-typecasting that it's obvious" Brad Pit. Oh, and Cameron from Ferris Buler, he's the guy on Spin City. The casting of Velma isn't much interest to me cause if it's not Janeane Garofalo then it's Christina Ricci, and if it's not Christina Ricci then it's Janeane Garafalo(kinda like the casting of Partic Stewart as Pro. X). It's to obvious to form any interest. The casting of Daphne is interesting cause it's Heather Graham, and that itself is interesting. If it's not her then forget it. And Fred. First, definatly not Craig Kilborn. I havn't seen the cartoon in a while, but I remember that Fred was not aragent and smugg. He was a kind of an airhead. --- As far as the plot goes, it shouldn't be any kind of origin thing, or a reunion thing, like the senerio I heard about them getting back together after they grew up and got real jobs. The movie should be like anyother episode of the cartoon. Nothing more special, nothing bigger then life, nothing like the haunting of the Statue Of Liberty or The White house or some big important monument. Just like a a regular cartoon, just live action and feature length(and maybe a more involved story line) and more self spoofing. And I hope they don't make this for the kids and screw it up like Inspector Gadget.I don't know how Inspector Gadget could have been made cool, probably just because it has already been made and I can't see it differently. But today I saw a commercial for it and I heard the theme song and I thought "This COULD'VE been so cool". Oh Well.
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This movie will only work if it laughs at itself, and presents a gritty version of what we all love. We all know Fred and Daphne were swingers because they had the scarves around their necks. Shaggy was a stoner (weird eyes and green shirt, extreme paranoia, not to mention a constant case of the munchies), and they were all hippies (dig that Mystery Machine!). These qualities should really be played up, even if they are not blatantly spelled out for the kiddies in the audience.
Also-Scooby should NOT be animatronic or CG-generated! He should be played by a real Great Dane (or whatever he is), who only follows Shaggy around in anticipation of his next Scooby snack, and who, like some dogs, can actually bark or whimper out a word here and there on occasion.
The music should be exact from the show-real 70's suspense-like, but with some real rock-n-roll spiced in for flavor (Steppenwolf? HaHaHa!). The theme should be a DIRECT copy of the original-that early 70's peppy-sounding beach boys-harmonizing thingie for period flavour. Additionally, during the end credits, the lyrics reprising the theme should include: "Oh will there be...a Scooby 2? You know I can't live without ya!" -
There is only one way this movie will work and that is through Butt-Fucking. Like, in every other scene: chase, butt-fucking, song, butt-fucking, Harlem Globetrotters, butt-fucking, butt-fucking, butt-fucking BUTT-FUCKING BUTTFUCKING!!! FRED BUTTFUCKING!! MMMMMM HMMMMM!!!!! MOVIE OF SCOOBY DOO WILL WORK AND SMILIN' JACK RUBY IS A JUNKY WHO WATCHES RERUNS OF THE GARY COLEMAN SHOW AND BRUCE MCCULLOCH WILL PLAY NIGHTCRAWLER IN THE X-MEN MOOOVIEE! MOOVIEEE !!! BUTT_FUCKING!!!! I LOVE EATING SHIT, MMMHHHMHMH IT'S IN MY HAND AND I EAT THE SHIT THAT CAME FROM MY BUM!!! And Velma is not gay . . .neither is Peppermint Patty. She loved Charlie Brown. Remember?? REMEMBER YOU BRAIN-DEAD SLUGSS!!!! I'm ZAPPING YOU with MY RAYS!!! EEEEERG~~ And Marcie loved him too. The End
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I dont know where I get my sources from, but I heard the Mike Myers version of Scooby was great!Nevermind, I guess Harry is the expert!
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I'm thinking Mark-Paul Gosselaar from Saved by the Bell fame would do well as Freddy. Maybe Joely Fisher (the redhead from "Ellen" and the Inspector Gadget movie) for Daphne. Janeane Garofalo as Velma, although she seems a little thin for the part now. And as much as it pains me to say it, Matthew Lillard is lanky and goofy enough to be Shaggy. If Scooby is done by ILM or another big time computer FX house, then a CG Scooby could probably be pretty cool. I also wanna see Steve Buscemi play a weird "red herring" character, like the spooky gardener or strange security guard or something.
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'Nuff said.
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i'm disappointed in you harry. not a very nice comment to make about only MALE seventies kids digging scooby. sterotypic assuptions do not move our society forward. personally, thelma was my goddess when i was 5.
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Fruhead... No more drugs for this man. Yoda_Ghost - You are right on about Mark-Paul Gosselar as Fred. I totally forgot about him. I had him as Anakin in ST EP 2, but since that ain't going to happen, then playing Fred will just have to do. Even as a disembodied spirit, you are still wise, o' wizened one.
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All the Shaggy candidates sound good and, natch, Garafalo as Velma- but the only actress to play Daphne- Cindy Crawford. Come on! She's the living version if there ever was one. Sure she can't act but all Daphne ever did was stand around and look good anyway. And for those who say Velma wasn't a lesbian- bullshit of course she was. No heterosexual woman dresses like that.
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The one thing that is really grinding my cherries about this project is how everyone is picking big-name stars for the pesky kid roles. George Clooney as Fred? Balls!! A Scottish newspaper even reported Lenny DiCaprio had confirmed as Fred!!! Utter Swank!!! A big name star will most probably not want to play second fiddle to a CGI dog. If, mind you, If this film does appear, the suits will do the only sensible thing and trawl through the mire that is teen-orientated sitcoms, and scoop up the leftovers that Williamson never touched. And Mike Myers as Shaggy? If age ain't an issue get Bacall as Daphne.
I envision that with bad casting and scripting, this puppy is going to be put to sleep forever. -
i just hope theres a goofy cameo
like batman and robin,the harlem globetrotters,the addams family,and if they use a live great dane...make sure he wears underwear...have you ever seen a live great dane? -
Seriously, I am Shaggy. Come on casting directors, give a true unknown a chance! Oh, and a personal trainer because I'll have to lose 10 lbs. Thanks, bye!
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...And they're the right ages and seem like they could be realistically cast if a good script was written (these are two things that many geek's fail to consider when engaging in fantasy casting). As for the script itself, yes, it should run along the lines of the Brady movie and go for a PG-13 rating. And address the questions regarding homosexuality and drug use among the group. Also it should parody elements from other movies that seem to have been inspired by Scooby-Doo in some way, like the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Blair Witch especially (but not the shaky cam, PLEASE!), but only if it's appropriate and not forced into the story just for the sake of having the joke. As for CG Scooby or casting a smart dog: A CG Scooby, which would also enable the production to parody the annoying nature of Jar Jar. Also, there should be a funny backstory that reveals the origins of these kids -- how did they meet and get together and decide to travel the country in a van called the "Mystery Machine"?
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yeah yeah, definitely should be lots of hinting and references. smoke coming from the back of the mystery machine, velma gazing longingly at dahpne, daphne gazing longingly at fred, shaggy putting the moves on both velma and daphne. fred putting the moves on shaggy. be funny if no one but the kids (or maybe just shagggy) understood scooby, like, are you talking to a dog?
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God, I just love that howl... "Captain CAVE-MAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!" Jesus Christ, I'm 27 years old; why am I typing this?!
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Can it be possible that Hollywood gave up years ago and is deliberately trying to top itself year in and year out with trying to make the worst movies ever? I am trying very hard to find ANYTHING to like about the idea of a Scooby Doo live-action movie, and ya know...I can't. This idea absoulutely BLOWS CHUNKS of Scooby VOMIT! I find myself actually ANGRY at the notion, not because I'm a Scooby Doo purist, but becuase this is such a miserable idea for a movie, and a waste of time and money. They could make ANY MOVIE THEY WANT and they're going to re-make SCOOBY DOO? You have got to be kidding me. I feel ashamed of the human race.
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You folks (posters) definitely have too much time on your hands...
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