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HitFix Says Bryan Singer ‘Nearing’ Deal To Jump Aboard Big-Screen BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!!
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AICN’s old pal Drew McWeeny is reporting exclusively on his fancy new HitFix site that Bryan Singer, director of the first two “X-Men” movies, “Superman Returns” and “Valkyrie,” is “nearing a deal” to produce and perhaps direct a new big-screen “Battlestar Galactica” movie.
I assume Drew got this directly out of the mouth of Singer’s “X-Men” producer Tom De Santo, who tirelessly pimped a Singer-De Santo revival of “Galactica” before Ron Moore took over the franchise, and seemed to begin again pimping a De Santo-led “Galactica” revival at last month’s Comic-Con.
De Santo, I’m guessing, pointed with great enthusiasm to the mammoth grosses J.J. Abrams’ “Star Trek” sopped up this summer, and I guess I could see Universal throwing a few sheckles at Singer to oversee the creation of a new “Battlestar” movie script.
But.
We’ve just spent four years watching Ronald D. Moore’s “Galactica” undertake its very cinematic search for Earth.
Could even the staunchest fans of the franchise be anxious already to see the Galactica crew begin that search anew?
By all accounts, any new feature would take place outside the alien-free “Galactica” universe created by Moore, and be based instead on the original 1978 Glen Larson series.
I can’t imagine Singer or the writers he hires coming up with a viable story angle Moore’s gang hasn’t recently explored. Moore himself said one of the reasons he decided to end “Galactica” was because the series was running out of ideas.
If I heard De Santo correctly at Comic-Con a few weeks ago, his pre-Moore series idea was to reveal that the genocidal Cylons were secretly taking their marching orders from humans. Other reports suggest De Santo wanted a Boxey-led colonial fleet to battle a borgified Apollo, who was apparently assimilated into the Cylon fleet via cybernetic implants.
From someone who says he read the "Galactica" backdoor pilot that DeSanto and Singer developed with writers Dan Angel & Billy Brown for Gail Berman at Fox:
I can't speak to the quality of the rest of the writers' work, but this script is some bullshit right here.
Had it not been udder shite, David Eick and Ron Moore would never have gotten the call when the project reverted to USA in the wake of Singer's departure to X2.
I know pretty much everything there is to know about this project. And it doesn't come close to what we've seen over the last four years.
I also wonder, given the relatively low ratings garnered by Moore’s excellent TV version, if there are enough core “Galactica” enthusiasts to support a pricey movie franchise at this point. And how would modern fans greet a new Galactica shorn of Laura Roslin, Bill Adama, Kara Thrace and Galen Tyrol?
I leave it, as always, to talkback. Are you, constant reader, ready to buy a ticket to a new Moore-free big-screen “Galactica”?
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I paid to see shit like Transformers and G.I. Joe. I'll have no problem paying for something I would actually be interested in.
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This is the most ridiculous idea I've heard today.
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Also, pointless.
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shit.
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The first series stunk and the second version screwed the pooch. Let's try again, people!
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why not 100 BSG movies and shows?
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here comes the hate. The guy is a damn good director. He used to be a geek favorite before superman returns. can't you all forgive him?
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The series had so much promise for a strong overall story arc (a la Babylon 5) and faded into stories that obviously were thought up one week at a time. I agree that it was time for the series to call it quits due to lack of ideas. Maybe, just maybe, there's an "interim" story to tell as they did with the Razor movie. That would let them reassemble the cast and use the well-developed baseline story.
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another KNIGHT RIDER movie instead? that would be just about the only thing more pointless.
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Just don't. Probably won't happen anyway.
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if it doesnt have anything to do with the tv show. <br><br>not that anything was wrong with the show, but i missed it when it was on.
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was pretty much the greatest thing on TV in, like, EVER.
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Aug. 12, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST
Cool just be sure Beaks handles any L.A. screenings you might ho
by CapnJake
When this is about to be released so he can select the ticket holders "AS RANDOMLY AS POSSIBLE!"
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A movie void of this song would be great. The last season of Galactica was ridiculous.
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No way, no how. If Singer is contemplating this he must be desperate.<p> Go back to 3rd-rate Syfy(lis) apocalypto-dramas.
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(the BSG version) ROCKS SO MUCH!!! best use of a musical piece in a tv show ever.
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...that doesn't stop this from being a bad idea. <p> The guy can probably get any movie made given his resources, yet he wants to make yet another version of Galactica? Come on, Singer; give us something different.
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Yes.
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Is star trekXII, if jj decides to just produce, singer should be brought aboard to direct.
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Aug. 12, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST
If it's more like the old show, it shouldn't be a problem
by lockesbrokenleg
I've read some really good BSG comics based on the old series.
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was stupid, stupid, stupid. But to each his own.
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That has WAY more promise for a movie remake than a BSG reboot. The reason the new series was so critically well-received was because it *wasn't* like the old series. A movie remake based off of either A) a remake of the old cheesy series which those who remember it laugh at, or B) an extension of the old cheesy series which requires knowledge of the old cheesy series that the target teen audience doesn't even know? Epic fail.
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Is Logans Run and tie it into the current health care debacle. <p> Free health care until age 30.
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is like saying "hey, let's make another Michael Jackson"
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it's a matter of time
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I'd like to see where Moore was planning to go with that show.
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Make it kinda like the old show?
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And it DESERVES to be a failure. You do not reboot a successful story months after it wraps up. As much as I thought BSG whimpered to a conclusion, I liked the show overall, and do not want to see a reboot for the indefinite future. I'd bet even the people who were infuriated by Seasons 3 and 4 don't want a reboot, either. Let this property rest for a bit.
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Bryan Singer, but this seems like the wrong time for another Battlestar relaunch. I'd like to see what he had in mind for his planned all-action sequel to Superman Returns.
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so keep him away from the screenplay (and no "story by" credits either). I'm ok with him directing though.
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I for one never liked Moores BSG. It was just too fucking neurotic and soap opera. WAY too melodramatic. Lets see a bad ass military in space, humans on the verge of extinction, movie that doesn't concern itself with weepy leaders, weird endings, and being a metaphor for current events.
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over again
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greatest endings ever, is what you meant to say, I'm sure ;)
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The original was shit. The re-imagining pulled off the premise about as credibly as it could be done.p> Maybe if they hadn't ended the story & wanted to make a movie with the Moore cast, I'd be interested. But another reboot is pointless & at least 30 years too soon.<p> If some people thought a Muppet Babies version of Star Trek was too much, imagine what they would do with a revamped cheesy BSG!
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if you ignore shit like "Disquiet follows my soul" and "Islanded in a Stream of Stars". Most of it was grear.
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When I first saw the headline, I was super excited. Then I read that we're talking about a movie based on the original, Moore-free BSG. Fuck that shit. Fuck it in the ass.
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that will hate this for throwing away everything the series built. nice one universal! smart! maybe while you're at it you can greenlight remakes of tv shows that most people don't care about like land of the lost that have built in pre awareness of the brand. oh wait, you did that!
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the epic feel of the old show was definatly missing..if your gonna redo this, can we have lots of awesome space battles?? please???this is after all..battlestar galactica. morres version was great sometimes, but the lack of budget clearly showed. the last season really suffered as it was obvious they were saving their pennies for the finale.
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Hated BSG's lame ending, but who the fuck wants Larson's "original vision" back?<p> If you want to reboot the show one more time, start from when they left New Caprica, which is where it went into the toilet.
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And too much of a good thing. Seems pointless. I'd rather see Singer's R-rated version of Logan's Run. THat could easily be a franchise, too, and is very ripe for re-imagining and staying truer to the novels...
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I loved Moore's BSG, it's probably my favorite show ever, but even I would have no interest in a new revisioning this soon. I agree with others above who would rather see Buck Rogers or Logan's Run remade.
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The show lost it after the third season because it took itself too seriously (also because it became blatantly obvious that they had no idea how they were going to sum up half of their biggest cliff hangers). Synger starting with a clean slate could be fun.
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Seriously, what the fuck. This will never happen anyway.
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Season finale to reboot in under six months. That has to be some kind of dubious fuckin record. Why not just wait two weeks and announce you're rebooting District 9 for fuck's sake?
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By losing momentum towards the end,mixed in with the Anders exposition that they didn't have time to reveal bit by bit. <p> The first half of the season had more build up than the second, which featured a bit too much earth mother Ellen Tigh & Starbuck "what am I?" Stuff instead of ramping up the tension.The ending however, was damn near perfect if you ask me. <p> Let's be honest. A lot of people just got pissed off 'cause they had all of these fancy over-elaborated ideas of how it would end, based on the show's religious mythology etc, and when the answer was far more simple than that, they went in a big sulk.<p> Personally, I just wanted to be entertained & was.
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particularly the first couple of seasons. However, season 3 showed a marked decline; and season 4 had only a few peaks, in a very padded out run of episodes. It, also, was not all that satisfyingly wrapped up.<p> If a new big screen version is done, I hope they put some fun and momentum back into it.
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Or at least a space series I haven't seen tried in live action before. Other than coming up with something original they could just rip off some anime series. Gundam, anyone?
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...female. What's left?
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How about a talking horse? I'd watch that.
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is 'star blazers' if u havnt seen it, you should.
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Moore's BSG suffered from nobody having a fucking clue as to what they were gonna do with the show after Season 2. As Season 4 proved beyond all reasonable doubt.</p><p> Although the original Larson BSG started life as a theatrical film (so did BUCK ROGERS), it was just so they could justify spending a truckload on STAR WARS-caliber special effects that they subsequently reused ad infinitum on the show (along with the occassional "new" effect that usually looked like the dudes who did the special effects for STARCRASH or "Lost In Space" did them), and in that extended theatrical running time, they still couldn't do more than set up the series. I think it's waaaaaaaay too late to mount a BSG feature, and anything they do is gonna be a pale imitation of the (sometimes-classic) Moore series.</p><p> By the way, no, we can't forgive Singer for SUPERMAN RETURNS, and any argument you want to mount about how great of a director he is can be quelled with one statement: "He's trying to direct a fucking big screen BATTLESTAR GALACTICA movie."
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Think about it, they can have this take place at the first cyclon war and just do a badass space war movie. They wouldn't need any of the original cast since it will be the first war so it'll have young adama as a pilot. It'll end up being a super-budget version of the razor flashbacks, which in by book is awesome.
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They're gonna do Larson's Star Wars with Mormons show.
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because he managed to waste 300 million dollars on about 15 minutes worth of actual action in that movie. Seriously, that's gotta be the worst bang for your buck in the history of cinema. WTF did he do with all that money, buy drugs for the entire crew?
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No. No, no, no. No. And, if I forgot to say it, earlier: no.
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Another slant on the BSG mythology is not needed. I won't see it. <br><br>And somewhere, Joss Whedon shakes his head at what could have been with Firefly.
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We don't know anything at this point, there's no script yet, I'm willing to bet that if they went through with this (especially if singer is involved), they'd make an effort to tie it into the new series at least a little bit. They'd be fools if they didn't.
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Aug. 12, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST
"And somewhere, Joss Whedon shakes his head at what could have b
by The Dark Shite
That somewhere is most likely between the buttocks of a small Thai boy. Singer is in the corner watching & waiting for his turn.<p>
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but I think Dark Shite is correct, they'll just do a different version, of the same characters.
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But I'm sure I read before that they want nothing to do with the Moore version. <p> It would be cool if they could work something out, but it seems to be Larson's vision that they wanna do. Which means something similar to the new Star Trek-high octane, nice to look at but about as deep as a puddle.
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Ya go ahead ruin BSG, gee is it gonna be like Superman who had NO FUCKING SUPERVILLIAN? Singer should go back to X-Men at least I didn't get douche chills from that movie, his Tom Criuse Nazi SUCKED, His Superman SUCKED, and this BSG won't be a shit stain on Moore's ass compared to the masterwork of Moore's BSG.
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Aug. 12, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST
I think I'm right in saying that Singer was involved..
by The Dark Shite
with this a long long time ago. Maybe before x-men or around then? I've even seen some spec set designs from then. It was gonna be a modern version of Larson's show.
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What the heck, if you insist on being creatively bankrupt just run with it.
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Nope, not gonna endorse it. Not only is Singer an ill choice for the job, but he (or any one else for that matter) would be EXTREMELY hard pressed to reproduce any of the genuinely dramatic themes touched upon in RDM's BSG.
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I want to see Adama with hair.
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Adama & Son: Interior decorators.
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Who are you referring to? At first I thought you meant me 'cause it's under my comment. I've looked through the TB quickly & I don't see any anti-semitic comments.
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Think with some decent editing, season 4 could be ok, probably be about half as long, but much more enjoyable. <p> Seasons 2- 4, plus the last episode of season 5 of Babylon 5, still the best from a Sci-fi story and plot perspective (TV at least). BSG had better acting, but lacked story direction and momentum.
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I personally don't care about Battlestar Galactica so this suits me just fine. He can stay away from the franchises/properties that I DO care about.
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I guess I better read the article above and the assorted delight of the lovers of Superman Returns.
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I'd take any info from a source who describes the script as "udder shite", with a grain of salt. <p> Udder shite? What? You mean like a deformed cow who shits through its udders? wtf?
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...he's referring to the actual article, not anyone in the talkback. Would he be anti-asian if he mentioned yen, or pro-apartheid if he mentioned krugerands? I don't think anyone cares if Singer's Jewish, get a grip, stop being so sensitive, and stick to the topis, speaking of which:
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As soon as I saw ties and briefcases on the Ronald D. Moore show, I scratched my head and posted the observation on a couple of message boards. The hatred that I got was unbelievable- how DARE I question the vision of this show! They explained to me that since we are all humans, they would naturally have the same fashion sense trends that we do. Of course that was the absolute dumbest thing I had ever read so I never gave the show another chance.
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it will be toughh to reboot something that's been done so well, so recently. FUCKIT! REBOOT STAR WARS!!
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has Singer not learned that when he touches fan-favourites people get angry!!! ...as for the 'low ratings' battlestar had, i'll never know why downloads and dvd sales are not counted!! Battlestar was one of the biggest shows of the last 10 years, this will piss people off.
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Aug. 12, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST
a lot of Moore's plot lines came from Singer's version anyway
by jccalhoun
Take a look at http://is.gd/2ehJ8 IT has a lot of the basics in common with Moore's New Caprica-era storyline
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Aug. 12, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST
Only Mr King gets to call me Constant Reader...
by CHRISTIANBALES_BILEDUCT
But seein' as how you asked so nice n'all - no, no I do not want to buy any more BSG. Now...git off my lawn 'fore I set the raccoons loose on y'all.
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as regards the ties, i'll only say that they had them as the show was a 'contemory' telling of a story, just like how they all speak english.
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...as with any movie, if they just concentrate on making a great movie. It WOULD require any fans of the show(s) to accept it and decide if its worth paying $10 per person to watch. Otherwise, it's just going to appeal to the uninitiated. Besides, after four years of the tv series (which was excellent) how far can one ninety minute-to-two-hour movie possibly go?
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until i found out he helped develope comic movie stories without ever reading comics. and i don't know why everyone holds x-men and x2 in such high regards they screwed the pooch way befre x3. wolverine wasn't an x-man before ice man or beast (who wasn't in 1 and just a small spot in 2) or angel. and neither was storm. lady deathstrike not a mutant. striker didn't make wolverine. and so on. but back on topic he shouldn't direct bsg. i don't even think we need a movie right now. space themed movies are going to get the vampire treatment if they do too many at once.
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When BSG was airing it's final episodes, I kept hoping the finale would set up a string of feature films. I really thought it was that good and didn't want it to end. But they did it. They went and ended the sucker, gave the kind of ending that wipes out any possibility of a sequel (at least with the same the generation of characters).<br /> <br /> Now that Galactica's journey is ended, I say go for it. We hear about so many reboots of fallen franchises, many of which never make it to the screen. If they can get a Bryan Singer directed Galactica reboot up on the screen, then more power to them. This just sounds like one of those projects that will fall upon the wolves before it can fly. Let's face it, the original 70's series was not a great artistic accomplishment. In terms of quality, it was about as good as Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (which wasn't half bad and is still entertaining to watch, I love how they parodied it in the South Park episode where Cartman travels to the future.)<br /> <br /> Oh well, whatever happens, we know we'll get to hear Richard Hatch scream in the press if they don't give him a role. If they're following the old show as a model, then I'd like to see him as Gaius Baltar.
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Aug. 12, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST
Next year, I hope we get Mel Gibson doing LOST: THE MOVIE.
by Johnny Smith
It'll be the same thing.
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So anything is possible.
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Why do you guys keep trying to compare it to fantasy bullshit like Babylon 5. No lasers.. no watch, bitch!!!
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Aug. 12, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST
Superman Returns is brilliant compared to Transformers 2
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Transformers 2 deserves the hate; that movie sucks. $300 Million for Superman Returns is a far better investment than anything that was in Transformers 2.
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I'm currently watching the final season on blu and man, does that show kick ass. I don't want to see Singer near this franchise after that anemic Superman flick. Pick something else Bryan. Hell, redo Space 1999 or some other shit.
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No other word for these supposed creative film makers. What? After four years of successful and artistic work they think we'll watch a 'reboot' of that 70's joke of a series? I HATED that show when it came out. And I watched it, too, cause we had only three networks back then! The only cool aspect were the Cylons. Starbuck was a self involved prick, Apollo, can't recall any defining anything about his plastic character. Adama? Lorne Greene should have stayed on the Ponderosa!! Just unreal that anyone would consider green lighting this. Even if it were not for the series sparking interest in the show again, this crap wouldn't float at the box-office. "Star Trek" worked now cause it worked then and was never reduced to robot dogs and pandering to little children. Please, someone with money and brains go round up the starving writers and producers in the homeless shelters around Hollywood and let them rule!!!
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Not even if you paid me $10 to go see it!
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This is just abysmally stupid. Just when I think I can't get any more angry at filmdom. Tilt my head back and shit in my mouth.
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I think the ties & suitcases etc, came from the fact that they really weren't sure about where the story was gonna go/if the characters were a version of "us" in the future or not. <p> As it happens, they kinda made them "us" in the past, which makes it harder to explain why humans would go through loin cloths & togas etc (ok & they banished tech in the show), but finally reach a point where we have those exact same designs. <p> They've done the same with Caprica-playing a version of Tennis, techno music etc. There are some elements of that stuff that you have to either take in an abstract way (as in we identify with it), or just let it go by & not think too much.<p> I'm not sure if it was BSG or Caprica that mentioned a guy called Durham. A name that comes specifically from a city in the North east of England. The only thing I can do is assume that he or his ancestors settled the city of Durham. OR the better option, just fucking ignore it:-).
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...you actually missed the point of the ties and briefcases. It went a lot further than that: they had normal cities and buildings and cars, jeeps and highways, cafes and buildings with regular apartments and doors with hinges, guns with bullets, booze and coffee, toilets and showers and phones with cords. The point was to take the focus off the differences in "futuristic" (historic?) culture and point out the similarites with our own world and times, tying in with the central theme of the show: "This has all happened before. This will all happen again."
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COME ON, PEOPLE!!!
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Tired of Remakes. I would have been along for the ride with a remake of the original BSG had Moore not hijacked the franchise title and some of the ideas. Sure some of his updates were fine, but I think the series was waaaaay overrated. The last two seasons of the BSG reboot was mish-mashed, self indulgent, wayward tripe capped off with a dum-dum ending you could see coming from a mile away. Strip away the cheese from the original series, update the effects, recast the actors, smarten up the stories, and I think you'd have had the makings for a superior series. As for a movie reboot? That horse has left the barn.
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but all the phones and stuff weren't even wireless.
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Gerard Butler would be perfect. Hell, get him to play Buck Rogers too.
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...laden storyline to ruin it, just like Superman Returns! was ruined. Sad.
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I'd watch the series finale again.
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Was meant in the grander scheme of things in my opinion & not meant to be taken as specific to tiny details. <p> Or are we to assume that (given they abanodoned their technology & presumably fashions etc too), some tailor in London hundreds of thousands of years later heard "All along the watch Tower" & thought "I know, I'll make a new thing called three piece suit. Businessmen will love it!"? <p> In the real world, it comes from the fact that they didn't know which it was, future or past. You can adapt it abstractly into the fiction of the show & take it as everything repeating, but I don't think that was meant in such a minute way that designs for everything are repeated exactly as they were. <p> Those things are there imo, because we identify with them & understand it. In the same way that the characters speak English, but within the fiction it's safe to assume that they weren't. But ultimately, they just didn't know where the show was headed.
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So someone else can make a great SW movie again. A sequel trilogy etc.... <p> Yes I know there is a better chance of snow of the pyramids than that happening.
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this all just sounds to me like Glen A Larson trying to hype up another of his film projects that are never gonna happen <p> when's that Knight Rider movie coming out? <p> ...having said that, I would totally be onboard for a NEW and COMPLETELY DIFFERENT Galactica to Moore's one, which (I'm sad to say) went slowly downhill from about mid season TWO and never really recovered, until it hit a new ALL TIME LOW with the series finale (see http://shrunklink.com/ctav for a very long essay about that FAIL) <p> ironic how Moore wanted to do a reboot because he felt the original series had "run out of ideas" - his record on both Trek and now BSG suggests he is not immune to the same problem...
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Starring David Hasselhoff.
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Not only would I skip this movie, I'd go out of my way to advise others to do the same. The corpse isn't even cold yet people...how about *gasp* something original. Thanks fucking heavens for Distict 9.
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but that shit aint my Battlestar
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Aug. 12, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST
Sounds like they're trying to 'Star Trek-ify' the BSG 'franchise
by adaptation
<p>With only 2 series under their belt, I don't see how this could, in any way, become a franchise like Trek (if that's what they've even attempting).</p> <p>Trek was a show about ideas with character arcs thrown in, while BSG is a character drama with some big ideas thrown in.</p> <p>It's gonna be a real hard sell to try to re-imagine this only a year after Moore's series ended (and while the new one begins).</p> <p>Sounds like De Santo's trying to wrangle some leverage for something else using some lucrative-sounding, yet altogether worthless filming rights.</p> <p>Or maybe he just is that dumb and really does want to cash in.</p>
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If they have a big budget, lots of 'sposions, good looking 18 yr old guys for the ladies & hot chicks in tight space suits for the blokes, it will be a hit.
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That'll get the punters. What a load of wank.
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is it so hard to dream up an original idea?
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Frackin' idiots.
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I agree I looked at it all the ties/suitcases etc similarly with the language, no different for me. <p> As viewers, aurally we are hearing English, but know they aren't really speaking English. It just makes it easier for us to view this and relate to the characters, focus on story etc. Visually no different, I really don't think they have exactly the same suitcases/ties as we use. But the focus should be more on the characters, story and themes. <p> That being said look at the similarly created goods across our planet by different seperate civilisations. Whether it be a spear head or a form of bread, some things just make sense.
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..I was less than enthused with the miniseries. I don't know. After all the hype, I was expecting something amazing. It really felt like an episode of Stargate (big ideas with limited budget). There was enough in it for me to go on. I can see it getting much better. As far as the movie goes, as long as they dont throw 200 million dollars on this, this could possibly turn a profit.
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you can find his story treatments and pre-production art online. Boxey as a main character is a horrible idea, in fact the whole thing is a horrible idea.
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and turned into one of the stupidest sci-fi shows ever. "We're all cylons.." God... A movie can't possibly fuck this show up any more than it already had. Garbage, Garbage, Garbage. Still waiting for the return of intelligent Sci-Fi, not more whiny, self-important dribble that's "all about the characters" no matter how retarded the story becomes. Let it die. Fuck it!
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seriously Singer go make another Superman movie, that is what we want! jesus.
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more homosexual metaphors. I don't care for BG, but he did fuck up Superman =(
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Hey, no one's a bigger Galactica fan than me, but enough's enough. Hey, here's an idea: How about developing some ORIGINAL ideas?!!!
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An Editor leads you by the nose and all but says 'it can't work', and all you do is say 'yup yup it can't work, yup' <p> Fukken pathetic <p> It might suck zebra shit, but that would be because Singer sucks zebra shit, not that the concept of a big screen Galactica can not work. <p> Think for your fukken selves. <p>And no Moore did not exhaust story possibilities, he exhausted his own creativity -but their are plenty of creative people out there with ne ideas
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What other old Singer projects can we drag out of the "Coming Attractions" dustbin of internet chatter? He's DONE.
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This is what it means when folks say you're out of ideas. Listen-I didnt watch the recent TV series(or the original one for that matter) but even I can tell you making this movie is a bad fucking idea. This is all about Hollywood trying to jump on the bandwagon after the parade is over....they want some of that sweet,sweet BG money and by god they're gonna get it even if they have to trick the audiences into paying for a sub-standard product!!! This is like the cinematic equivalent of when you wanted TMNT figures for Xmas and your parents bought you "Turtle Warrior" figures from Big Lots!!!
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I wanna see a big epic BSG movie on film with uni-named characters, lasers, clunky-shiny (vocoded voice) Cylons and Richard Hatch!! If Singer can do for BSG what Z. Snyder did for the 300 comic then wow!! As long as it's big, ballsy, looks cool and moves along... who cares where the storyline goes?? Nothing can be as dumb as head people who turn into angels rambling about religiosity. I'd even stand to see a compilation of most of the actors from Larson's and Moore's shows in it. Really confuse some new teenage fans!! Throw alot of new stuff in too. And, some "Razor-esque" flashbacks. Turn BSG into the biggest downhill rolling, sci-fi snowball franchise ever.
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NBC to remake Supertrain...really
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I don't want to see the 70's stuff redone. I loved Moore and Eick's vision, even if I don't agree with the tack they took to get to the ending. the "all before, and once again" crap was just that, crap. A cop out. Cylons were made by man...but it sounded like someother force was really responsible. CRAP! I don't want to see just Apollo, Starbuck, etc...I liked the reality feel to it. The FTL, that's what made things different. The Colonies used FTL like we use jets...it's a part of everyday life, nothing special to it. People have to seperate the 70's version from the 00's version. This movie would have nothing to do with what we just saw. It would be 4 steps back.
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Aug. 12, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST
Ron Moore's Galactica Is From Singer & De Santo's Outline
by Media Messiah
Yes...much of Ron Moore's story outline for the new Galactica, leading from the first to most of the story arc came directly from Bryan Singer and Tom De Santo's story outline which they put together for their Fox series run...and Ron Moore never gave them public credit for it. This is a known fact within industry and press circles that Moore has never disputed.
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I want his womanizing, lovable rogue, secret heart of gold, character...to be restored. That is what is so cool about Starbuck...and his ultimate irony.
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Honestly, this is just retarded. Bryan Singer, I lose respect for you more and more each day.
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I'm sure Harlan Ellison would like a do-over on that one!
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the original show and always felt sad it was never given a proper continuation. But I **absolutely** fell in love with the NEW show, which I hold with Twin Peaks and Babylon 5 to be one of the 3 greatest television shows, ever. I am not opposed to a continuation of that original show, but...another reboot from scratch? I don't see how they could improve on the Moore/Eick version. And as one who regards Superman Returns as a noble failure, I'd MUCH rather see him tackle that followup. *le sigh*
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I thought Singer was busy with some shitty ass Sci-fi channel Unoriginal. About the Mayan calendar??? Explain!...
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is that the average teenager who the studios are trying to get into theater seats every Friday night either doesn't KNOW or doesn't CARE that there has been a great TV show called Battlestar Galactica on Sci-Fi for the past 4 years.<br /><br />Just like they don't know or care about 40 years of Star Trek continuity, or Larry Hama's GI Joe comics from 25 years ago or whatever other fanboy canon you guys or going to cry RAPE over next... <br /><br />Half of the people IN THIS TALKBACK either <br />1. Didn't WATCH Moore's BSG. <br />2. Didn't LIKE Moore's BSG. <br />3. Didn't like how Moore's BSG ENDED.<br />4.Still Prefer LARSON'S BSG. <br />5. Welcome a Movie that's Closer to LARSON'S BSG.<br />6.Still think BABYLON 5 or STARGATE is a better show than either?!<br /><br />If the AICN community is this divided over something like Moore's BSG why do you assume the general public gives a shit either way?<br /><br />This is just like the non-Whedon BUFFY remake, if you think about it. By the time they get that off the ground there will be a whole new crop of 13 year old girls who won't have the slightest idea who Sarah Michelle Geller IS, much less Joss Whedon.
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damn some people are thick! use this as an excuse to hate on Moore, Singer, homosexuals, whatever - but do not for even ONE SECOND actually BELIEVE this is for real! <p> or else I've got a great deal on some unused land I want to sell you - it's a steal...
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to make a BSG movie. At the very least they need to wait until Caprica has had its run, seeing as it could confuse the less hardcore fans of Moore's universe. As for the quality of Moore's, it DID lose some quality in seasons 3 and 4, but it was still much better that ANY sci-fi series before it as it put the characters first and let them carry the story and sub-plots(which, if you whiners would look back, Ron Moore said was the driving force of the series from day one, NOT the story arc. He said that back during season 1)
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you know it's true - even if you have no idea what I'm talking about
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most movie goers aren't gonna know or care about everything being argued about in the talkback. I would argue, though, that Moore's BSG will gain popularity via DVD. I personally know about 10+ people that never watched it while it was on AND they have no interest in Sci-Fi, but they watched the mini and got hooked. I also see Caprica's targeted broader audience to also reinvigorate BSG as well
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Go back and watch the miniseries. Galactica didn't have wireless phones because Adama didn't want anything wireless or networked for security reasons. It's the primary reason that Galactica didn't get owned like all the other Battlestars (except Pegasus).
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Not sure what went wrong with this guy
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No Moore, no FRAKKING way. I love my modern BSG, and Singer can stay the hell away from the franchise,
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This news is making me think of all that went wrong with that show. I don't really want a new take on the story, I just want someone to erase the last season +1, and do it right. I really liked what they had going with that series but they flushed it all right down the toilet. All I can remember is Adama crying and vomiting on himself - unfortunately that was the highlight.
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Has anyone lived off of one okay movie besides Singer and Kevin Smith? No pulse.
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said the joker to the thief...
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This pisses me off. I hope it doesn't happen.
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that's the real issue here.remaking a show that was critically acclaimed and JUST WENT OFF THE AIRjust proves that family guy was right.hollywood and television shows are written by manatees.dumbest idea ever
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I was actually happy it focused more on the characters. The only problem I had with the show was the crappy first half of the fourth season. Everything else about this show is fucking solid Gold though. I'm rewatching and at first half of season 2. Holy shit, I love it. Lost has had 4 shit seasons now. Yet that has a greater fanbase? Morons rule.
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Aug. 13, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST
Just what all the kids want these days, Martha...
by cheyne_stoking_DMS
Pac-man, hula hoops, soda pop and a 'Battlestar Galactica' movie...
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funny how he criticizes the show yet moves on to praise 300. Oh the more you know.
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yeah
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an idea SO bulletproof that you are GUARANTEED a blowjob by the end of the date...
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sleep with your mom or sister ? <p> You complain about Lost almost as much as Diox mentions Stargate. You don't like it, we get that. But "Moron's rule", because people like something you don't, and people have a different opinion than yours, get over yourself.
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First and foremost, Hollywood is done with making anything new, original or creatively challenging in any way, shape or form. Until every hillbilly in Kentucky stops lining up to see a remake, a movie version of a TV series, a movie version of a cartoon, a movie version of a board game or semi-popular toy from your childhood, a movie version of a musical version of a non-musical cult film or a remake of a remake of a comic book movie that was also a musical (in other words: probably never), greed and the inability to think of anything other than the list I just wrote out above will probably ensure that the studios will continue to crank out "safe bets" until the end of time. So the argument about them investing their money in anything "original" or "not completely fucking stupid" is a wasted one. They're making a fucking VIEW-MASTER movie. Trust me, this will likely happen, and like the "lucrative" STAR TREK reboot that was also moronic, overblown and completely ignored everything that came before it, the BSG feature film will play like a couple of fifth graders from 1980 wrote it in their STAR WARS Trapper Keeper and probably make shitloads of dosh. They let DISTRICT 9 through. Don't expect another one to slip past for a few years.
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I suppose it depends on your definition of original, but I agree with your point. <p> Look on this website we have a Lego movie, a Death Race prequel, a Riddick sequel, a Gi Joe movie. <p> We also have tonnes on District 9, which for some is seen as original, though am sure the hardcore Sci Fi geeks would disagree...well at least it isnt based on a toy.
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Aug. 13, 2009, 12:33 a.m. CST
Not to mention an Anne Frank film in the works.....
by cheyne_stoking_DMS
who says that cunt is original? :)
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then I'll consider it fresh. Until then, *yawn*.
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To quote Will Smiff, "Aw, HELL naw".
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Fuck this shit. Don't need it (especially a zombified Apollo?! The shit is this nonsense?), and DO NOT WANT. Yeah, I said it.
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I can't wait for this to happen! LONG LIVE THE REAL BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!!!
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I know this post has dick to do with this horrible film idea. But, seriously, imdb makes me proud I geek it up on here. Bunch of fucking morons!....
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"Anne Frank, for years she hid from the Nazi's, once found and captured she was experimented on by evil Nazi scientists, injected with strange chemicals, limbs replaced by limbs from the deceased, eventually the experimentation killed her. However the next day Anne Frank rose from death, changed by the experiments, stronger than 10 men, skin as hard as steel and full of rage and vengance. She is going to make the Nazi's pay, she is Anne Frankenstein"
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Just priceless
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I have no interest in this supposed project and will not support it. Ron Moore's epic series was just fine, thank you. It was better than fine - it was PHENOMENAL.<p>It's still hard to believe that Harry took a steaming dump all over Moore's BSG, in his love for Larson's original crap.
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Really, I gotta agree, Waqman. Did Darlton double-team your sister or something? Cause that first season is GOLDEN. I can see why someone would consider the other seasons to be inferior, but Season 1 is just about a fucking perfect piece of storytelling.
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val kilmer direct to video movies?
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...as the greatest mystery ever produced for television.
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Not! We got the best version possible under the best Director/Producer possible, this is just a lame attempt at pulling money from the a.)Awesome show that was just made and b.)the Sci Fi hype being built around all these other great movies already out. If you're going to rehash something, at least do it on something that hasn't been reproduced in the last 5 years please...
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There isn't anything left to do! All Singer would do is fuck it up, no one wants to see an assimilated Adama take a Cylon fleet and attack New Earth! Just leave it alone please. It was already great why take it all away now?
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Aug. 13, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST
Hey Singer! You're too late, but you could always do that UFO r
by Meta
I'm sure they're looking for a director on that remake. Or if you want to do superheroes you do a remake of the remake of the Hulk. And if that's not good enough for you how about another Dune remake to compete against the remake of the remake they're planning. Or how about an X-Files movie remake or a Doctor Who movie remake (I mean a remake of the those Peter Cushing Dr. Who films, because he has to draw from untouched material - not something actually good), perhaps there's time for a V film remake to come just in time right after the ABC series remake gets axed. Hey how about a remake of the remake of the Night Stalker? Or a remake of the remake of the Dark Shadows TV series (the one with Ben Cross as Barnabas, not Jonathan Frid) since Johnny Depp is doing the cool Barnabas version of the remake. Or...CAN WE JUST STOP HAVING SO MANY FUCKING REMAKES!
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that syfy was doing during the last couple of episodes of galactica?
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LOL!!!!!! Did their BSG have an idea? Sorry but Moore's and Eick's BSG was an overhyped piece of crap. Looking for Earth? Yeah maybe not until the last season. For humans that are suppose to be hunted down and looking for Earth they pretty much for the whole series stayed in one spot. Let's face the truth.
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I won the flyer that was used in the episode "Unfinished Business" about the New Caprica City Call. I also bid on Six's Red dress, and some other things like books from Adama's room.
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If he makes a BSG movie the thing will end up aimed at the Transformers crowd. Loud, shiny and brainless. I know have him direct the next Star Trek movie. If he wants to ruin a franchise (even more) just point him in that direction. Maybe he can just remake "The Wrath of Khan"
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Apt Pupil and Valkyrie were ok. His comic book films were horrendous.
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Since X2 he killed all of the x-men and Superman. What would you like him to kill next? Fuck him, he is worthless.
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Been waiting for years now for a silver screen rendition of the original 1978 Glen Larson Battlestar Calactica series. With Singer onboard this should be good. Fingers crossed.
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Aug. 13, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST
Battlestar Sciatica is just another boring Sci Fi show
by MajorFrontbum
..without any substance and packed to the hilt with inconsistencies. Who better to direct a sinking ship than Bryan "Superman Returns" Singer or even worse, JJ "Armageddon" Abrams - another useless Hollywood puppet, with zero talent and a fat head.
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Moore's BSG was not only the best TV series ever made, it was also better than almost anything that's been on the cinema in a decade.<p>Is Bryan Singer unhappy about pulling his career out of the shitter after the turgid Superman and want to throw it back down there><p>This can only compare poorly with Moore's absolute masterwork.
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Aug. 13, 2009, 3:04 a.m. CST
Is there ANY BSG fan who didn't come around to the Moore series?
by Timstuff
Seriously, if there's anyone who hated the changes Moore made back in the day, it was me. I saw maybe one episode of BSG and refused to watch it beyond that, not liking how Starbuck was a girl or any number of changes they made from the original. Then, I finally sat down and started watching from the pilot onward, and now I FRAKKING LOVE IT! I see no reason to do a movie reboot at this point. I love the new show just fine, and I don't understand who out there could possibly be pining for one.
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Aug. 13, 2009, 3:18 a.m. CST
make it 3 hours of katee sackhoff masturbating and I'll buy a ti
by ironic_name
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Aug. 13, 2009, 3:19 a.m. CST
Singer has much to answer for- Superman Returns, X3, The Triangl
by ZombieHeathLedger
All terrible because of Singer either directly or indirectly.
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I doubt many people would give a shit.
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Why the hell do we need to rehash BSG the original series, when we had an awesome new one just recently? If you want a space opera sci fi movie then just come up with something original - if it's good we will go watch it, we promise.
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SO SAY WE FRAKING ALL!!!!!!!! If you disagree then your either a cylon or a gimp. The only thing that ever came this close to BSG's greatness was Firefly, which if it had been given a fucking chance would have been the all time champ in this fools eyes. As for a Brian-fucking-Singer REFUCKINGBOOT, well... I must contemplate this as I take a long shit.................... Ah, back again, a bit lighter than before... So, Brian Singer wants to DO BSG the correct way, so what's that then? Make every character a repressed homosexual and get them to dress up in tight fitting rubber/spandex/nazi costumes? You really need to think outside your little gay box a bit more Brian.
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All those think its a good idea... place the barrel firmly in your mouth and pull the trigger. Vote over with.
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Only here would you find some person named "zombiejizzeater" saying homophobic things. Also, "Valkyrie" was lean, mean, riveting thriller. Very old-school. No melodramatic subplots. And Tom Cruise sold that shit. Oh, and BSG fans, sorry, but "On The Watchtower" was better used in "Watchmen". "Two riders were approaching, and the wind began to howl!" Dan and Rorshach in the mothefucking house.
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BSG depressed the FUCK out of me.
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Bryan Singer sucks nards. The only half decent thing he's done was The Usual Suspects and how many time can you watch that? Fuck the Xmen, that series of movies should have been so much better, Fuck Superman, I'm not even going into all that, and Valkyrie was fucking terrible. Seriously. Terrible and boring. So why don't they just come up with something else, wtf.
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Apt Pupil, Superman Returns, Usual Suspects, X-Men.
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There is noway that Singer's movie could come close to Moore's excellent work. BSG TV show was like watching small movies in themself. Singer would have to do something really good to make it look better then the show. Besides, his Superman movie sucked. It should have been Superman:The Remake.
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This seems like as good a talkback as any to ask the question… What’s the story with movie rights to comic book characters? This doesn’t really apply to DC comics, Time Warner, Warner Bros. It seems the studios that currently own the movie rights to comic book superheroes have to produce a movie every (2-4 years? how many?) to keep the movie rights otherwise the rights go back to the comic company? Yes? No? . Meaning IF I understand correctly (and I don’t) that Marvel (movie) studios currently own the rights to Hulk, Captain America, Iron-man and Thor PLUS the secondary characters associated with them. The character associated with them part I don’t really understand, Say for example the Hulk, you have Bruce Banner (obviously), Betty Ross, General Ross, etc because they first appeared in the hulk comic, BUT the Wolverine (with no mention that he was a mutant, if memory serves) first appeared in the Hulk comic, SO the obvious question is wouldn’t wolverine in some way be part of the Hulk’s rogue gallery? And would the marvel studios be able to use the character in a future Hulk movie? Another example reporter Ben Ulrich from the Daily Bugle shows up in the Daredevil movie except in that movie he’s working for the New York post (I think) because Sony seem to own the rights to the Daily Bugle? Does every company that purchases Comic movie rights get a list of associated characters? Will movie Spider-Man ever take on the kingpin? Fox seems to own all the “mutants” or do they?. It also seems weird that they put the words “X-men Origins” before “Wolverine” and had Cyclops and professor x in the movie for no real apparent reason, except I suspect, they HAVE to put a certain percentage of original X-men into every movie (and put X-men in the title) to pass it off as another X-men movie, otherwise the rights can be disputed. Fox are rebooting the Fantastic Four just to hang onto its precious (money making) characters. FUCK. Finally is there anyone in this talkback who knows what studio owns what characters AND associated characters, Just so everyone knows who owns what, and we can all stop fantasising about a shared Marvel (movie) universe that’s NEVER going to happen, unless the various companies work together. Or sell the rights back to Marvel (yeah right). I want a LIST dammit!
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it would have been heralded as the greatest single piece of television in all history <p> not just better than anything else that came before it, including the original series, but the POTENTIAL was so much greater than all those other single season TV shows - and it would have been GUARANTEED a silver screen presence NO QUESION... <p> <br> <p> <br> unfortunately it didn't get cancelled after one season
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Two hours of homoerotic angst and 37 seconds of action. No thanks.
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Right?
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Right?
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The computer spaced them somehow???
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Yo dawg. I heard you like remakes.....
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Holy Shit. I did a bit of searching in the internet and found out that Marvel and Fox signed an extension deal for the x-men movie franchise in 2008 for another 6 FUCKING YEARS, I mean they sold out the fans for another 6 years AFTER the shitty, but profitable X-men 3, (thanks idiot movie going public!)! That means we’ll have to put up with Hugh Jazz Hands Jackman’s wolverine until 2015. Even then they’ll probably sign another deal if Wolverine 2(sorry, X-men origins 2/wolverine 2 electric boogaloo or whatever its going to be called) makes a bit of money. I just hope it’s a financial flop of Batman & Robin proportions. Otherwise Fox will keep buying the rights back again and again and again and again. And we’ll never see the Avengers and the X-men on screen together. _----------------------------- Marvel SHOULD have the Daredevil and Electra characters back by now but who knows. ----------------------- Fox’s Fantastic Four deal SHOULD expire next year, but Marvel could sign them off again just like the X-men of they haven’t already._-_______________Marvel have Blade back apparently-------------------Sony have Spidey for another 2 movies (4 and 5) and that’s it they also lose Ghostrider in 2011---------------------------Ah fuck it, who knows? Fox probably got Daredevil, FF thrown in with the X-men extension. I really hope not. So in conclusion, if you hear crappy reviews of future wolvie or spidey movies that are ALWAY accurate, DON’T FUCKING PAY IN TO SEE THEM! Don’t go “duhhhh I think ill go see that wolverine in japan flick I heard was terrible from a million reviewer but hope there somehow wrong, plus I’ve nothing better to do” We wont ever get a kick-ass crossover movie we all want if you do its as simple as that!
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Singer seems to be the go-to guy to fuck up franchises... What the hell, give him AVP3!!!
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but he might do a better job of this!
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Christ, what a dickhead. I used to like Singer but fuck him. He abandoned X-Men, resulting in the godawful Brett Ratner movie. He brought in an interesting, yet uninvolving, Superman movie that tanked. Valkyrie? Don't know, I guess I'll catch it on TNT next year such is my non-existent interest. Let's face it, Singer has 2 hits: "House" and "The Usual Suspects". Are they really so bereft of ideas that we need to remake-remakes? Have any of these Hollywood dipshits picked up a book in the last decade. There is a goddamn treasure trove of quality work to adapt, new and old. How about doing the Dark is Rising Cycle, but this time, don't change the fucking storyline! How about the Preston/Child Pendergast series, or Thursday Next, or a big-screen non-shit version of The Dresden Files? If you are forced to remake stuff because you are so creativey stunted, at least remake something that was bungled the first go-around. I used to think it was because I've gotten older but no, Hollywood really is just fucking awful this last few years. Time to kick out the goddamn lawyers and get some crativity back in. Get someone in charge that isn't focus group testing every little thing in an attempt to zero in on the commonest of the common denominator population. This summer has been utter fucking garbage. A bare handful of decent movies you can count on less than 5 fingers. But the numbers are up so the suits are patting themselves on the back over what great genuises they are. as they continue to strip mine the few ideas that were half way original. No, I won't see a big screen BSG unless they somehow get the cast of the Moore series. Singer and DeSanto can go fuck themselves.
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Returns is a beautiful film and if he ramped the action up like he promised a sequel would be awesome, no more boring Nazi films or another telling og Galactica, more Superman please Mr Singer.
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Yes, we want it. Hive Mind is correct. It is coming, just a matter of time.
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Because remaking BATTLESTAR GALACTICA only a year after the remade TV series concluded is insanely fucking stupid.
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Nice to see some Superman Returns love here - I never have understood the irrational hate for that movie. While not as good as Donner's original, it was far better than Parts III and IV... so basically it was a decent outing for the blue boyscout. It was a good reintroduction of the character and it is too bad Singer won't get a chance to do Man of Steel. <P> As for this proposed BSG reboot, I guess this is how fans of Smallville felt when Singer's version of Superman was announced. My guess is that is where a lot of SR hate comes from... fans of the TV series expected a big screen extension of the show instead of a feature that is its own entity and canon. <P> This is the part where I am going to get shot down for my hypocrisy, but while I don't mind two distinct Superman continuities, I don't really care to see another reboot of the GSG universe, even if a guy with Singer's talents is attached. I'd prefer it if he would get on with an update to Logan's Run already. <P> My guess is that the big screen BSB will go into development but eventually get shelved (which seems to happen to a lot of Singer's projects). I think the studio will get cold feet because of poor word of mouth about a franchise that is not well known outside its fan base.
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In 10 years, this might be a good idea. If a studio greenlights this, it goes to show that Idiocracy is coming true. The Problem: To keep from being a rehash of what we've already seen, they're selling it as "staying closer to the original show" than Moore's epic series that fucked our eyes and hearts for 4 seasons. The PROBLEM with that? THE ORIGINAL SERIES FRAKKING SUCKED. Sucked A LOT. So their strategy for being successful at the theatre is: "Distance ourselves from the emmy-award winning series that broke new ground in sci-fi and is universally acclaimed by fans and critics alike, and get closer to the cheesy, Mormon-masturbatory space opera from the 70s." Don't give them a dime, studios.
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then again the new Galactica series was boring as shit so maybe he's a perfect fit.
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This is a monumentally stupid idea and any promise that Singer once had as a director is LONG dead. His masturbatory emo bullshit Superman movie proved that he has completely lost his mind.<br><br>Either way, WHY reboot the series AGAIN, when the recent reboot is AWESOME and readily available on dvd. So fuckin' stupid.
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So say we all! http://tinyurl.com/ojjox7
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That was fucking WEIRD. She vanished into thin air. The ending of Moore's show SUCKED in every possible way it could.
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The horror. The horror.
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Robinhood: Men in Tights.
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I guess if I am going to use acronyms, I should get them right: <P> GSG = BSG <P> BSB also = BSG <P> It serves me right for trying to put a coherent thought together before my morning caffeine hit.
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Change the setting to a Southern California high school filled with beautiful people.
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Now THAT'S a reimagining!
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lasted on TV far longer if the syfy network was around. The newer TV series would have done a bionic woman 1 and done if it had been on a major channel. I think most people want to see the original series style of machines vs. humans.
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I like Bryan Singer enough, but come on. Ron Moore is a modern alchemist. He made gold from total shit! This is idiotic at best and will be infantile retreading at worst. But, the great hack gods of no ideas in Hollywood decree more REMAKES! And we cry YES! Seriously, please reject this.
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Seriously, I'd watch a redo of the last season, because it would have to be better than what we got. Hell, remake the last 40 minutes of the show to stop them from throwing their tech into the goddamn sun.
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This isn't viable. Let Galactica sit in the can for another 10-15 years and then maybe but right now it's just not possible.
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for the Moore BSG series?
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I don't believe it for a second. It sounds to me like someone (Tom De Santo?) is uselessly trying to stir up interest in this idea. But Moore's BATTLESTAR GALACTICA has just become celebrated as one of the greatest science fiction epics ever. Bryan Singer would have to be crazy to get involved in an automatic remake/reinvention of this property. I'd be truly surprised if he was involved in any capacity.
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THAT is what we need.
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Well, I didn't. After midway through the 3rd season it took a gigantic shit. Little action, little of anything other than a bunch of whiny, self-absorbed characters. It was like watching an acting class where everyone got "their episode" to show off their stuff. Reel-building material, at best.<P> If Singer is going to do a movie that actually pays some RESPECT to the source, I'm all for it. The new series was BSG in name only.<P> Also, let's not forget that Singer had been developing this film FAR before even the miniseries aired.
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Aug. 13, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST
"mammoth grosses J[ar] J[ar] Abrams’ “Star[Dawson] Trek”"
by AsimovLives
As in, the WORLDWIDE box office being barely twice the movie's budget, with half the box office going for the distributors, ad only the other half for the studios. Which means, the movie barely broke even, if that.<br><br>People have a really weird interpretation of the wrod "mammoth grosses". The movie that really did mammoth grosses this summer is "The Hangover". Ouch!
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THAT is what we need.
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I propose a swap: give Star Trek to Ronald D. Moore and Battlestar Galactica goes Jar Jar Abrams.<br><br>Jar Jar Abrams is specialized in fucking up once classic and intelligent SF sagas, so he could have a go at some new property, with hillarious retard results.<br<<br>Meanwhile, Star Trek would be rescued by the capable hands of Roland D. Moore, and he would return it to the intelligent SF saga it once was.
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Singer making a new movie set in the JarJarVerse is a bad idea. Jar Jar Abrams has so fucked up Star trek, no amount of talent a director could make anything of worth from that.<br><br>If Bryan Singer is ever to make a Star Trek movie (and he has expressed interest in that since the late 90s), it better be a reboot à lá Batman Begins then a continuation of the JarJarVerse ST version of Batman & Robin.
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not too excited... :( Although, if he gets an incredible script... and editor... and conceptual artist... he's technically competent as a high end hack director.
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and "release" all this anger you have built up for Abrams. It really is quite unhealthy.
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So you no longer think Berman did? Interesting.
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"Can you try not to be cylon" ijs
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Compared to Jar Jar Abrams, Berman is an amateur. And Berman didn't so much fucked up as he over-stuffed ST by being over-zealous. Jar Jar Abrams indeed fucked up, and all because i couldn't give a shit. His movie is the cinematic equivalent of having him, Bob The Orci and The Klutzman pissing on Gene Rodenberry's ashes while cracking jokes at him for being dead.<br><br>Jar Jar Abrams fucked up Star Trek so much, it's not longer Star Trek anymore, it's some other beast althogether, it's Jar Jar Abram's Dawson Trek.
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I can't watch any of his movies without remembering how big of a whore he is. My old boss had sex with him, because he's also a huge slut, and told me that durring sex he says things like "Mmmmm, hot cum! Hot cum in my face! Hot cum in my mouth! Hot Cum Hot Cum Hot Cum!!!!" over and over again. Also, Superman sucked, and X-Men has no staying power.
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Aug. 13, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST
because i couldn't give a shit = because he couldn't give a shit
by AsimovLives
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very weak, clearly gay-priented movies. Battlescar Boringness s more like it. the gay themed is played out - it's over, you are merely nomal not special/interesting - we've seen it all. Bryan Singer = Kiss of Death to franchise.
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So say we all.
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and yet they badmouth and hate the director of The Usual Suspects, the first two X-Men movies and Valkyrie. Fucking fucked up world this is! Who understands this shit?
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Your kind of homophobic hysteria is terribly suspicious. I'd like you to tell where there is that big gay theme in Valkyrie. Or The Usual Suspects, for that matter. Get real, man!
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R.I.P. at 94
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have to say about all this???
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but i guess it should come as no surprise. business is business. whereever there is greed there is speed
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When he broke his arm, and it was going to be permanently messed up he had them set it in a position that would still allow him to play.
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whats the point? BSG is my fav tv show of all time,i dont see much point in making a move of it especially when the charters from the Moore's BSG are what most of us consider the BSG crew now its way too soon and too weird to see anyone else in those roles,how bout makin a movie about another Battlestar? like Pegasus or something,that i think would be pretty cool.
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I've always thought that the Singer/DeSanto Galactica would have been awesome. It would have been a had a mix of new and old characters (including Dirk Benedict as Starbuck and Herb Jefferson as Boomer), and would have appealed to both fans of the original series and new viewers, much like the very successful new Doctor Who series. I always loved the original Galactica, cheese and all. Moore's version clearly had no respect for Larson's original, and was a boring pile of TV sci-fi sludge. Visually boring, dull characters, pretentious tone. I would welcome Singer's take on the franchise, although I have my doubts whether it will get made at this point, but who knows. We've had Superman Returns at the same time as the neverending Smallville, and Terminator Salvation at the same time as that lame Sarah Connor show.
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Some of you people are just sad sad little people. Singer didn't make a bad Superman movie because he's gay he made a bad movie because every director has made movies that suck. Jesus titty fucking chirst some of you motherfuckers are pathetic.<p>memories of assholelives get some new material. The shit you're spewing over and over again was never clever, funny or insightful find another movie to obsess over cockstain. Wasting bandwith on a marginal summer movie is just sad even by your lonely shut in standards.
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Michael Bay doing a reboot of Babylon 5. Jerry Bruckenheimer doing a reboot of Stargate. Any other hack doing a reboot of another show because they have to reip off someone else's idea because they don't have any original ideas of their own. Damn you Michael Bay!
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Probably will now need to be Space 2099
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It is good to know that all of the short lived shows that died a quick death over the years will be tossed around as major motion picture deals 30 years from now. Is their "ANY" originality left?
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Oh yeah, that would be nice.
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They were supposed to make a remake of "Logan's run". Whatever happened with that project ?
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Fuck you haters, you stick to your shitty Stargate and CSI rehashes. I hope they try as hard as they can to emulate Star Trek, I really do. Then this will simk like a turd in a u-bend.
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The shiny new eye candy that was in the latest film was severley undervalued by the dumbest script this year. <p> TNG is barely watchable these days, Voyager was too hit and miss whilst DS9 is the only show that has aged well (the last couple of seasons only).<p> Apart from a few films and TOS, Trek has been sinking for years.<p>
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A space miner comes through a wormhole from the future and blows up the Earth just before the first cylon attack to get revenge on Gaius Baltar because he was responsible for killing his family. Years later, a much older comes through the wormhole and meets himself in the past and tells them that all of this is an "Alternate" Battlestar Galactica timeline. See, the real story actually happened, but now these new adventures don't necessarily have to follow that same time-line.
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Battlestar Galactica will be on Earth with no spaceships, and everyone is going to wear a motorcycle suits because that makes it more real.
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I'd like to see how a real writer would handle the BSG franchise. It certainly could be no worse than the craptacular ending that Ron Moore crapped out for us.
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That would be perfect if you added some insane coincidences and then took a hole punch to the finished script.
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It'll be a hit with mainstream audiences, who didn't watch Moore's series but who have vague memories of the original TV series.<p> It won't be nearly as good as Moore's, but it'll be action packed and light hearted, with crazy daggits, and will pack 'em in and make a shitload of money.<p> It will spin off sequels and cartoons and toys, and fans of Moore's series will be full of righteous indignation, and Moore's series will be overshadowed and completely forgotten. <p> Not saying it's a good thing, just saying it's going to happen.
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Aug. 13, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST
Who the fuck cares, when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in Decem
by Motoko Kusanagi
nobody
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BSG was always shit just ask your mom
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old and rusty
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and BSG would fall into oblivion
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unless you consider crying a story
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the final season of BSG was a major let down-it became quiet clear that while they started with an idea of where they were going, they lost there way for a bit before throwing things together at the end, and while interesting it would have been a better show if the writers had a clear "bible" detailing the major plot points and a clear finale
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Aug. 13, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST
STARGATE UNIVERSE boldly goes where no franchise gone before
by dioxholster
$5 million for one episode!
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Story book is closed on Moore's galactica. It was one of top 5 fav shows of all time but it's done. I would like to see more of the Galactica as long as it was done well and Olmos certainly has the chopps to play a less Nihlist, weepy, Adama
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losers better watchout. coz BSG lovers will be in the minority.
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What other dwarves are we missing?
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the Stargate franchise is much much bigger than BSG and Star Trek yet all you suckers prefer to watch gay shit
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for the first time on TV, you will get to see the show from the point of view of a spybot-like flying camera ball called Kino. It will be flying around and spying on DESTINY's crew!
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the new adventure begins after an attack on the new top secret Icarus Base puts all our heroes in jeopardy. Who attacked the Base and why? could it a be a new villain or Lucian Alliance taking revenge? and Will our heroes ever find their way home? <p> would you like to know more?
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With just one viewer and his blow up doll!
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as this show drops viewers faster than Jordan dropped Peter Andre!!
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ELI WALLACE a gamer, was discovered by the government after he solved or deciphered a complex code in the game. is he gifted? or just lucky? <p> would you like to know more?
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As the show languishes in a friday night death-slot.
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as Caprica pulls in more viewers!
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As the show is cancelled before it reaches episode 12!
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Aug. 13, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST
"Boxey-led colonial fleet to battle a borgified Apollo"
by REVENGE_of_FETT
Worst fucking idea of all time. MARK IT! Nothing in all of human history could ever possibly approach this level of utter retardation. Right now Uwe Boll is saying "Now THAT'S a dumb fuckin' idea!"
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Aug. 13, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST
Chloe Armstrong, a party girl who found herself in a nightmare
by dioxholster
She is the daughter of a US Senator. her father wanted to give her life meaning so he took her with him to see the stargate. unfortunatly, the attack on Icarus will leave her fatherless and lost in a far away galaxy. <p> would you like to know more?
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Ronald Greer is a big, strong, silent Marine with a mysterious past who lacks control over his temper. will he be able to follow orders? or will he go rogue and put others in danger? <p> would you like to know more?
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if i had this i would incorporate Moores work i would use the last 4 seasons of BSG, but give it a proper end, i mean the last episode/ season sucked huge monkey eggs, use the same cast and give us a righteous finish. like they find earth but instead of being a chared rock it's a proper planet and the dreams and weird shit at the end of BSG is humanity crying out for a savior against some kind of bad ass evil.
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author of: <p> -Old Man's War - The Ghost Brigades - The Last Colony - Zoe's Tale <p> nearly all of them are Hugo nominated.
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Robert Carlyle: "Not a great deal, to be honest about it. I'd seen quite a bit of SG-1, plus a bunch of Atlantis. I was aware of the franchise and how successful it was. The fan base, particularly, love it."
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maybe some day I will rent the series on bluray and watch it but for now I just didn't like the cast and the chick starbuck. just killed it for me. I liked the robot not people pretending to be robots.
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BSG lowered it
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Now we're going to get Michael Bay doing a reboot of Babylon 5 and Jerry Bruckenheimer doing a reboot of Stargate.<p> I HOPE YOU'RE FUCKING PROUD OF YOURSELF!!!!<p> GAWD! THINK before you post something in the talkbacks! Don't you know that Hollywood execs read these pages for ideas?!?!
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Aug. 13, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST
Stargate is too strong of a franchise to ever be rebooted
by dioxholster
unlike BSG and Star trek, STARGATE is eternally immune from any kind of remakes.
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you will regret not watching it
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enough of shitty shows like BSG. can someone tell me why the fuck is BSG considered worthy of anything, its story sucks great giant assholes
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Why would they remake the original show when the BSG universe is still actively continuing in "The Plan" and "Caprica"? Is it so Singer can further delve into his unhealthy obsession with Nazis?
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all you AICN are sore losers. ive gotten laid countless times thanks to Stargate.
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he likes the smell of his own farts
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just to see how abortive a misguided project can. It'd be a front row seat to watching karma in action.
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It's coming, it's inevitable. You can't deny it Diox. Dean Devlin will return.
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guys lets make this happen
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its like saying juice without the water. or like the cornflakes without the milk. the movie was nothing but an introduction.
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you can get laid if you watch STARGATE regularly
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Aug. 13, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST
Um, where's like some new adaptions of stuff, like Larry Niven's
by ToMonicker
Sure, maybe they'd be totally bastardized, but how about some adaptions of the Intergal Trees or RingWorld? <br /> Much as I felt like the ending of Ron Moore's BattleStar Galactica was anti-climatical, even borderline sucky, I think he redefined and rebooted the show pretty darn well. A new movie re-boot? It will likely have less to offer to the world- what the hell could they do with the concept to make it intriguing again? It'd end up being a dumb and dumber version most likely. Now, if they did it like the Old School Star Wars trilogy, three year gaps between movies with significant changes to the characters and situations, where it leads to a climatic crescendo, maybe I'd be interested, depending on the quality of course.<br /> Initial excitement in nil right now.
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I thought Ron.D.Moore dropped the ball in the latter half of the third season when they introduced the final 5 BS, and then proceeded to systematically kill off pretty much all of the remaining 'human' cast, but I'd certainly say its way too early for anyone to a further reboot....
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its gonna be great
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STARGATE UNIVERSE
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STARGATE UNIVERSE
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...and no one except a few thousand people in San Francisco, Boston and NY will even care.
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http://tinyurl.com/ovqgq8
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... Check out the news at ew.com!
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awesomeness!
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is the sound of the turd hitting the water
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Aug. 13, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST
Battlestar Galactica - best series of all time...with the worst
by ninpobugei
All the b.s. with angels and messengers from the divine, UGH! They shit on the fans with that ridiculous ending. I say, bring on a new movie (anything is better than whatever they have in store for THE PLAN and CAPRICA...I lost all respect for the show's creators after the series finale).
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...will now cancel itself out. <br> <br> Dumbest idea I've heard out of Hollywood in a long time. At least all the other remakes/reboots/etc pick properties that have lain dormant for a bit.
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And fuck any thoughts for making more BSG. Moore's vision was just fine.
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I would have said HELLS YES four years ago, as I do adore the original series, but Moore's show pretty much did what it had to do. Wait a few more years and the try it. Bring back Dirk Benedict, Hatch and you got something.
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Dropped the ball on what should've been the BIGGEST no-brainer movie with SUPERMAN. I have ZERO faith in him as a director any longer. Add the fact that it is going to be a THIRD incarnation of BG and I am not interested. Seriously.
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that is all.
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...for the update!!!
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However cool whatever Singer comes up with might be, there's just going to be no way he's going to be able to avoid comparisons with Moore's BSG... and them is mighty big shoes to fill. Doesn't matter how much more the budget is - how are you going to match the freaking UN holding a conference about how great your show is?
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The old BSG was a piece of flaccid Star Wars wannabe drivel. This project reminds me of that stupid "Dur, lets make a Stargate movie that ignores the past 10 years of the TV show that will completely alienate the fanbase grown by said TV show and not the original property, durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
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bryan singer on the other hand besides the usual suspects hasint done a great film since valcrappy and the shite xmen's were over rated and dont get me started about superman either, im defo not for this at all.
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Shit.. Who's going to be the Peeping tom? What the hell is he going to do? A freaking "homage" to the first series by cloning 70% of the screenshots, storylines, and alreadyshot and seen scenes à la Superman Returns!?!?!?!??!?! <p> This is bad news.. <p> This will reak of crapfest!<p> I can only imagine seeing Apollo only getting 7 lines thru the whole 2hr movie; Starbuck having a child and putting it in dangers hands every two seconds; and seeing the Galactica looking like it should but darker, leathery, and with less of everything (See Superman's leathery costume which is darker and as less of a "S" on the chest on none on the cape! wow.. what an idiot... ) <p> I can only imagine the major bomb this is going to be.<p>
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Aside from the mildly enjoyable X1 & X2, I haven't had the slightest urge to see his other films. Superman was never my kind of hero to begin with, I was always more a fan of Bats, almost all versions... Of course, as a kiddo, Superman II was pretty damn fun! If this project has ANY F'ing hope, it should attempt valiently to ape, as it was intended in the first place*wink, wink*, old school Star Wars. <br /> Bryan Singer this is your assignment: <br /> Watch the Original unsanitized Trilogy, and maybe the first twenty minutes of Revenge of the Sith, and then just the first BattleStar Galactica Movie. Set up a 3 film arc with a slambang resolution at the end of the third, but as Lucas did make the first one selfcontained almost. Put some a shit load of damn aliens in this mess... they make excellent cannon fodder and the kids love them! Just make sure to get someone of Stan Winston's caliber or ilk to make'm. NuTrek's aliens kind of sucked. And when it comes time for the toys, make them sucker's compatible with Star Wars(it really pissed me off as a kid about the BSG toys-quality, poseablity, and scale of ships- chewy choking hazards that they had!) and screw Hasbro or Lucas if they don't like it. Kids will dig it, trust me.<br /> Lastly, make it FUN! *wink, wink*
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I saw Stargate when it first came out at the movies, and you know, it was quite enjoyable, but what I remember thinking about the most after seeing it was the possiblities of the "stargate" idea which, despite it's budgetary constraints, I think the TV show did better exploring. I somewhat recall that they'd been kicking around an idea to do a sequel movie, but it just seems like a total waste of time. I'm way out of touch with SG-1 and it's offspring, but I would have thought that they've mined that field pretty dry by now, right? It's continuity is already probably a flowchart mess to rival that one that was being toted around on TV to explain healthcare a while back. Heh, heh.
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Lost has had 5 seasons so far. 4 shit seasons, the first season was great. Uh...my math wasn't wrong on that one. Also I have the need to mention Lost all the time, because that shit gets nominated all the time, has such a big fanbase and for what? It's such a turd. BSG is what Lost should have been, and could have been. Only it wasn't. I'm done mentioning that crap.
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looking back at my posts how similar they are to Asimov's obsessive posts about Star Trek (09). Bleuck. I really apologize. I'll just leave it alone now.
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This sounds like that stupid Jossless Buffy movie they announced recently. Who do these morons think will watch these? The fan bases will have no interest in them at all. The BSG movie is a particularly dumb idea after the wrap-up of the series.
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Makes about as much sense.
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Jesus Christ.
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This is possibly the dumbest idea known to man.
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Seriously.
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Now it's kosher to piss on Ronald D. Moore's BattleStar Galactica? You who piss on it, you do not deserve that good a show. fucking hell, how does this happen, when the geekdom started to become so complacent that they piss on great stuff like Moore's BSG, but are kosher on horrible piece of shit like Jar Jar Abram's latest opus? Who the fuck understands you?<br><br>And now Bryan Singer is a hack and a bad director because he did n't made a Superman movie that didn«t corresponde totally to your specifications? Isn't that a little bit petty? Isn't that a little bit too much? Sure, the movie isn't perfect, the movie is kinda forgetable after some time, but to mistake it for a bad movie, or for a badly made one is weird the say the least. You piss on that movie, but accept with open harms much worst bullshit. Who the fuck understands you?
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Bryan Singer should focus his energies on something else then a new reboot of Battlestar Galactica. Why not another historical epic, he did pretty good with Valkyrie, i'd like to see a real war movie from him, like say a WWII pacific theater movie.
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I'm gonna have nightmares after reading that.
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For the resident in the UK, this means traveling to America.
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Papillon, Outlaw Josey Wales, Every Which Way But Loose, Any Which Way You Can, and more 80s tv appearances than you can shake a stick at. Get on it before the Black Widows come for you. Hit it LordofHell.
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...when the current re-imagining is still unfolding?<p>Then again, maybe the new re-imagining is taking place in an alternate, "this has happened before" universe where SyFy meddles not with the plots.
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You mean, following the same retard idiotic rational bullshit that Jar Jar Abrams used for his exacrable piece of shit Crap Trek movie?
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Aug. 14, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST
The hacks new excuse for fucking up of an established saga
by AsimovLives
"It's set in a paralel universe". Yeah right! I buy that for a dollar! Fucking ass!
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<br /><hr /> <a name="1999"></a> <h2>1999</h2><p> Don't worry, I won't hurt U<br />I only want U 2 have some fun<br />I was dreamin' when I wrote this<br />Forgive me if it goes astray<br />But when I woke up this mornin'<br />Coulda sworn it was judgment day<br
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