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There May Be More Than One RIDDICK Movie In The Works!?!? Their Working Titles Are...

Merrick here...
We're starting to hear more and more about the development of a new RIDDICK movie, like THIS admittedly abstract report from writer/director David Twohy a few weeks ago. Now, Vin Diesel has updated his Facebook page with the working title of not one...but two...RIDDICK films currently being mulled. As far as I know, this is the first revelation that more than one project is under consideration. Interestingly, Vin indicates that a current discussion is about the ratings of future RDDICK movies (it should be noted that many AICN Talkbackers were roundly unimpressed by the franchise's move from PITCH BLACK's "R" rating to CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK's "PG-13" rating). Vin also confirms a pice of information he initially revealed years ago - that the next film in the series does indeed expand upon the second film's "Underverse" metaphysics. Here's what Vin has to say:
The Riddick discussion is about rating now… Though Hollywood likes their PG Ratings, the next chapter in the COR series was always envisioned as an R rating, like Pitch Black… One Studio exec suggested doing both “The Underverse” and “The Furyan”, (working titles) at the same time, allowing us an R rating for the first and a PG rating for the second. The good news- David Twohy’s script comes in next month.
..says his Facebook entry HERE, where you can become one of 5, 653,436 Vin fans. I was considering picking up THIS Blu-Ray set of PITCH and CHRONICLES, but I noticed the CHRONICLES disc only contains the Director's Cut of the film. Talkbackers seem to prefer the Director's Cut, but Massawyrm recently mentioned that he hated the Director's Cut - although he's yet to say why. Could someone please explain to me the differences between CHRONICLES' Director's Cut and theatrical release in the Talkbacks below? Much appreciated. Big thanks to Ramp8g for the heads-up regarding Vin's update...

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  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Doesn't matter about the theatrical

    by FarSky

    If the director wants you to see a particular cut, that cut IS the movie. Period.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    UMM

    by Codename V

    I liked Pitch Black and thought the Chronicles movie was merely OK. I got the feeling that's the genral consensus among moviegoers. So why make more sequels?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Was the game and 18 too ?

    by kingoflight

    Personally i understand why the studio's want to hold on to the PG rating as its geared towards more people. If you ask me if your making a film and having to think about your limits your not making the best film possible. Best part still is riddick killing a guy with a tea cup.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Theatrical vs. Director's Cut

    by NinjaRap

    The Director's Cut adds in a bunch of weird mental flashes that Riddick has of a mysterious Furyan woman looking at him and talking to him. This plotline never goes anywhere. It also adds a scene in which Riddick demonstrates a new superpower - the ability to send a circular "ENERGY BURST" out of his body that knocks down all of his surrounding foes. Apparently this has something to do with him being a Furyan. Again, it's not explained. A couple of sound differences are also tossed in - you hear knife-slice noises during the long fight at the end of the Crematoria sequence (instead of just hearing the music with no sound) and Riddick now yells "FUCK you!" instead of "NEVER!" when he knocks back the Lord Marshall in the final battle. Finally, there's a change at the end of the movie where, instead of having Vaako say the "You keep what you kill" line at the end, Riddick says it himself - and smiles as he says it, before the credits roll. Notably, the Director's Cut also REMOVES a scene that was in the theatrical version - the scene where he's on the Merc ship, flying to Crematoria, sitting silently and narrating "Necromongers, Mercs, Elementals. Shit, I ain't never been so popular." and so on.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Merrick...

    by vettebro

    I liked the Director's Cut. However it makes the films pacing a little slower and the film longer. If you want quicker pacing skip the DC. That it in a nutshell.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Director's Cut vs. Theatrical

    by 1FearlessJay

    There's really not much to it if I remember correctly. The Director's Cut essentially puts the "Furyan" storyline back in. Riddick has visions of, and somewhat interacts with, a woman who keeps prompting him to embrace his Furyan side. The side the "Emperor" (can't remember what he was called) was terrified of.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Shit X 2 =

    by maliswan

    Shit!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    PG rating?

    by Anything But Tangerines

    What the fuck? seriously? Riddick is a barbaric murderous rapist... Why not? sounds like a warm hearted Disney tale to me.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    R...then PG? Huh?

    by tiltandflip

    Yeah...that'll help the continuity.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    I'm sure I would watch both of those movies

    by Frisco

    The last Riddick movie was the best Conan flick we're likely to get at this point, and I enjoyed it. If they were to dial back the Riddick worship just a tad in these next flicks then it would suit me just fine though. As for the PG and R thing... whatever. It's not the rating, it's what the movie does with it. The human-on-human violence in the second movie was more graphic than it was in the first, for example.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Perfect summary NinjaRap...

    by vettebro

    I did think the Furyan woman scenes didn't work as well as the Furyan "powers". It's better to have Riddick just be a bad ass, instead of any "mystical" BS. Merrick, on second thought, skip the DC altogether.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    So...

    by MrPoop

    He leaves the F&F and xXx franchises that people wanted to see him in to make a Riddick movie that no one really wanted to see and his career goes south. Then he goes back to the F&F, has succes again and is doing another xXx so he can go back to do another Riddick movie?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Release two versions of one movie:

    by kabong

    Pusillanimous PG for grandpa and the grandkids. <P> Hard R for me.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    You know, Frisco

    by maliswan

    The Conan analogy really cleared up some things for me. Thanks.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    I think the Point was ...

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    They're trying to decide between two different ideas ... not do two movies. There's a PG-Rated "ediiton" called THE FURYAN and the much-better version called THE UNDERVERSE that's rated R. Vin - go with 'R' for FURYA'S SAKE!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Bring it on, but only if...

    by DC Films

    The PG definitely stifled CoR. But also the character, who so prominent in PB, got a little lost in the grand mythos set up in CoR. <p>What made PB work was that Riddick was more unpredictable than conventional heroes (a little like what Craig has made Bond). He was dangerous because he didn't play the Hollywood formula.<p>In CoR the PG made him necessarily a conventional hero, thus prosaic, boring.<p>If i were Towhy i'd say screw the PG film, even if it means only making one more movie instead of two. Otherwise we're getting the same deal again - one shit hot hardcore sequel we love, followed by a tame let down.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    I'm trying to image the PG Riddick orign...

    by Anything But Tangerines

    All is well on the jovial playful planet of Furya, the rosy-bosomed women tend the gardens while delightful giggling groups of children bounce about, carefree. One day a visitor comes and shares wondrous stories of shining knights and spooky stories of haunted spaceships. The children are young and foolish, eager to believe anything they hear so their parents chide the boastful man. The visitor consults with his merry men and decides to send all the Furyans children to bed without supper. One of them eats lots of supper, and grows up big and strong to one day travel and see if what the man said was true.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    "Riddick" reaction on DAILY SHOW

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    I think studios could all learn a thing or two from watching reruns of THE DAILY SHOW. Once again, in stark proof how much America despises science-fiction, Vin was on the Daily Show promoting himself and was asked what his role would be in the second FAST AND FURIOUS movie, and he said "Actually, I'm not doing that ... I'm doing THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK" instead. Two people clapped, and there was a general sound of dismay from the audience. The host said "You, uh ... you guys excited for RIDDICK?" And then three people clapped. The host then looked back to Vin and said "Uh, you might've made a mistake there and picked the wrong movie to do a sequel to."

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Twohy said its not happening on XM last week

    by joshua

    On the Cinemgaic channel, Twohy was talking about Perfect Getaway, when asked about a Riddick sequel, he basically said it wasn't happening. He said there's a enthusastic fanbase, but you can't make a movie for, as he said "2000 people". Vin is delusional.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    well, i liked Chronicles...

    by Judge Briggs

    i thought it was fun! better than the shitty movies Bay and McG put out.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Merrick

    by Mr.FTW

    The Director's Cut is a much better movie, it explores more of the ideas that they only hint at in the theatrical cut. Basically the theatrical cut is the "for dummies" version the studio put out. Twohy and Disel were trying to create an epic mythology for the Riddick universe and the theatrical cut robs a lot of that that.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Although the first one was....

    by Cervantes

    ....an enjoyable little sleeper hit, it's overblown sequel was a borefest overall.<P> I would be interested in a third outing if it absolutely returns to giving the RIDDICK character a hard R rating to match the mood of his 'Mad Max in space' personality. This PG-13 shit everywhere is stifling potentially hard-hitting movies in general.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    The COR blu ray...

    by jamestewart007

    Have this and more in them. Vin and the director sit around and bs about what they wanted to do with the "COR" films. Apparently they had always planed for it to be a trillogy. They even describe the rough outlines for what the next two films will be.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Riddick

    by Cobbio

    I wish Vin Diesel and David Twohy well, but the "Riddick" franchise is pretty much dead to me. The shift from its likable first film to its awful, half-baked, overblown sequel made me cringe.<p> Before continuing this story, Vin and David need to sit down and ask themselves: who is Riddick? Is he a cartoon or a real guy? Is he fantasyland machismo or an actual badass for reasons any viewer could explain without seeing retconned sequels? They need to answer these questions. Because otherwise they're flying by the seat of their pants, which becomes obvious as poorly conceived after poorly conceived idea sprays across the screen.<p> I wish these guys well, but they really need to get serious and find a non-role-playing-game story. Because this is what killed "The Chronicles of Riddick" at the box office.<p> Also, if they make them, both future films need to be R-rated. This is vital. Don't fucking compromise, guys. You'll regret it.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    David Twohy

    by Series7

    I guess A Peferct Gataway bombing isn't effecting anything?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Butcher's Bay

    by DeusExMachina

    The Furyan that's in the director's cut is also in the Escape from Butcher's Bay game. I watched my friend play it and I think she's the one who gives Riddick his eyes.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Also

    by Series7

    Aren't their unrated and rated version of Pitch Black? With virtually no difference? Anyone remember the DVD extra feature on Pitch Black talking about how they promoted the movie by having Pitch Black rave parties?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Glowing Furyan Hand Prints

    by saintaugust

    How could a discussion of the differences between the two cuts leave out this little tidbit? It's how you know for sure that the Purifier is the real deal....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Chronicles of Ri-DICK-ulous

    by j_difool

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Merric, RE: The Director's Cut of CoR

    by DKT

    Unfortunately, it adds only to the more frustrating aspects of CoR. There's a little more Judi Dench, a little more between Riddick and the Underverse Furyan after escaping The Slam. I thin there might be more Thandie Newton/Karl Urban, too. But none of it really adds. It really felt like a cash pull for me - there's not a huge difference in vision of the film.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    FarSky re: director's cuts

    by wash

    Star Wars Special Editions, Donnie Darko DC, Apocalypse Now: Redeux don't exist in my world.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    The Blu-ray has both cuts

    by bevilacq12

    For the US Blu-ray, both cuts are present. This is true for both Riddick films actually - the US Blu-rays of both Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick have both the theatrical and the unrated cuts. The United Kingdom Blu-ray of Riddick has only one cut, I believe, but I don't remember which. Stick with the US release and you'll be fine.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Just saw Chronicles the other night...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...I actually preferred it to Pitch Black, which was like an unsold Aliens script that somebody reworked. Chronicles has kind of an action-movie version of Dune feel that I liked.<p>Granted, I've only seen the director's cut.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Riddick has been ruined

    by Captain RawBeard

    Pitch Black was awesome, Riddick was a baddass, the creatures were cool and it was an all round cool little film. <br> <br> But the sequel shat on all that, this whole Underverse saga is boring, the bad guys were lame. Only bits I liked was the Snowy bit at the start and the Prison Break. They should have kept the sequel to a simple scenario "Riddick is in hiding, Mercs hunt him down, capture him on an unregistered planet, cut to different planet where Riddick has been taken to be judged but the Mercs unknowingly brought something else with them which begins to breed, spread and kill. Riddick escapes and helps fight of new enemy" see no dicking about with destinies, last of his kind, fate and underverse shit.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    why anyone would want another riddick

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    baffles me. Cor was one of the stupidest pieces of psueso sci fi ever made.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    "David Twohy’s script comes in next month."

    by BiggusDickus

    ...but when is Vin coming out?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Merrick, get the directors cut

    by bullet3

    The theatrical version's biggest flaw is that the big setpiece battle in the movie, where Riddick is just tearing through an army of baddies with his knife, you don't hear any sound-effects (presumably for the rating), which just ruins the battle. He's slashing through all these guys but all you hear is music. The directors cut restores the knife sound-effects, making the battle really cool. Also, the added mythology stuff really helps to make the movie less confusing.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    No ThusSpakeSpymunk, they are talking about two movies.

    by I_Sharted

    It's obvious. It even mentions making both at the same time. If it were any more obvious I would probably still to explain it to you.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    My preference: Theatrical

    by NinjaRap

    Ultimately I prefer the theatrical version. I realize that the Director's Cut sets up ideas that will probably pay off in future sequels (assuming they actually get made), but in the context of the movie AT HAND, they don't make any sense and don't pay off at all. When a film ASSUMES sequels are coming and therefore sets up things that we never get resolution to, that always bugs me. But that's just me. The rest of the stuff in the cut, aside from the new energy-blast power and the Furyan Woman Visions, are pretty much take-it-or-leave-it. Although I like the added profanity, at least. Makes it feel truer to the character.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    My favorite part of Riddick,

    by the new transported man

    & I'm paraphrasing, is something like: "We're Elementals. We calculate." "So what is the chance that Riddick's still alive?" "...Odds are good." Math nerds rage!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    also

    by the new transported man

    I'm stoked for this Saturday, because it means no more of "Cris Cyborg's" meat face peering at me from the ad boxes. Yuck.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Seeing that David Twohy

    by Series7

    Wrote a rejected script for Alien 3, I bet CoR is just that same script with a few changes, ala Die Hard 3: Die Hard with A Vengeance style.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    That makes no sense...

    by Johnno

    Unless by PG, he really means PG-13... then I guess they can pull it off with one film being R and the other half of the content being the PG-13 appropriate stuff.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    what the FUCK?!?!

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    1. They're continuing on with the god-awful tripe that was Riddick rather than returning to the awesome vibe of Pitch Black, and 2. The fourth one's going to be PG? Not even PG-13?! Is Riddick going to kiss all the meanies into submission? I repeat my earlier statement: what the FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Timescape

    by Series7

    Anyone seen this movie? Never heard of it but its got that guy from Dumb and Dumber who's not Dave Coulier and was David Twohy's first directoral movie. I always thought the Arrival was...whatever happened to Charlie Sheen? Didn't he used to do interesting things? (I guess alamonies a bitch and Two and a Half men probably takes about 20 minutes to make).

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    THE UNDERVERSE sounds like a guy who steals panties

    by YackBacker

    And THE FURYAN sounds like a guy who fucks sheep. Twohy, bro- time for some new titles!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Merrick, remember that Massa loved STICK IT

    by YackBacker

    Let's not give his opinion too much stock. I have seen both and to be honest, I can't recall any significant difference.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    HELP I'M BROKE, starring Vin Diesel

    by craptacular

    I can't wait for The Pacifier 2.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Riddick 2: Furion Boogaloo

    by LargoJr

    you KNOW you would go see it... <p> Ya damn whores

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    by Buzz_Aldrin

    I never got what people liked so much about Pitch Black. Chronicles had major flaws and was kinda boring, but still leaps and bounds superior to Pitch Black imo.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    COR2: The Fast and the Furyan

    by ominus

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Pitch Black....

    by LargoJr

    I saw it for one reason... and one reason only.. Claudia Black. <P> SERIOUSLY.. no-one had really heard of Vin, and Claudia was still fuckin' SCORTCHIN' off Farscape. Me along with a couple zillion others just made the assumption the film would revolve around HER and Vin... but NOOOOOooo <p> They fuckin' gut her like a fresh carp 10 minutes in.. WTF??? <p> Anyways, she was why I saw Pitch, and I was sorely disappointed.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Riddick 2: Splittin that Shitter

    by LargoJr

    Vin should co-star with Shane Diesel and DP Claudia Black for 2 hours straight. <p> Hell, I'd buy the blu-ray for that!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    XXX3: Extreme Furyan Sports

    by ominus

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    ALIEN VS. PREDATOR VS. RIDDICK

    by Mullah Omar

    That will be the movie Vin makes after this batch.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Captain RawBeard

    by Cookleberry

    Great Idea! I'd pay to see that Riddick movie. I've always thought instead of the trash that AVP turned out to be, they should have instead made Riddick vs. Aliens vs. Predator. I'd love to see Riddick the badass up against those guys.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Ash vs Alien vs Predator vs Riddick

    by ominus

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Cookleberry

    by craptacular

    If Danny Glover can kill a Predator, anyone can.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    BECAUSE THE DIRECTORS CUT BLOWS

    by salamimansam

    I really liked Chronicles...I know it was flawed but I like how it expanded the universe so much, though I look forward to some 'smaller' stories about Riddick. The directors cut is one of the few times it actually ruins the theatrical cut. I like how a few scenes are expanded and added, but the way the ending is cut blows the whole feel of the film. It is too bloated and doesn't hold together well on repeated viewings.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Lord Marshall Riddick vs.

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Grammaton Cleric John Preston. That's the movie I want!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Everyone winds up in Underverse, sooner or later

    by _V_

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    RIDDICKulous

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    thats gold, baby!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Underverse

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    a universe of underwear. Thats gold too, baby!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    You know the directors cut

    by Series7

    Did do wonders to Babylon A.D. I watched the directors cut first and thoroughly enjoy it. A decent Sci Fi movie. Nothing great but not awful. I re watched the last half hour of it (the theatrical cut) and when it was over I fucking hated it. Like I despised it because it was so bad.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    can we stop with the Conan stuff?

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    Cor is not Cohan in space. Its xxx in space.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    The ending of the directors cut

    by Novaman5000

    blew the DC for me... In the theatrical, Riddick becoming their leader was more of a twist that he wasn't expecting and wasn't prepared for... It was a great "oh shit, now what?" moment, and I liked the elemental's narration.<p> In the DC it's almost like Riddick is happy about it, and it seems silly and doesn't connect with what's come before OR his character.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Riddick movie is VERY good

    by JohnRyder

    when stoned

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    NOW WE'RE TALKING!

    by HoboCode

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Novaman5000

    by HoboCode

    I have watched the DC many times now and to me there is no discernable difference in the endings of the TC and DC that creates any kind change in Riddick's attitude to becoming Lord Marshall. I have no idea what you are talking about.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    This Could Also Be Interpreted As Vin Referring To The Original

    by Acquanetta

    The original idea was to make The Chronicles of Riddick, and then two sequels: One set in the Underverse and one set on Furia. Twohy reportedly turned in all three scripts at the same time. This plan has since changed, which is why Twohy is now having to write a new script. Vin could easily be referring to something that was originally proposed for those earlier scripts. Either way, I'd be very surprised if they made a new Riddick film that was based heavily on the characters and ideas from The Chronicles of Riddick. They would be much better off taking a cue from The Wrath of Khan and largely ignoring the previous entry.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    ^...To The Original Plan

    by Acquanetta

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Is it well known that he's gay?

    by WickedRebel

    I was AD'ing a movie 5 or 6 years ago and one of the actresses told me that she was constantly struggling to land parts, yadda yadda... She said her highest paying, and most recurring gig, was to "play" Vin Diesel's girlfriend at red carpet events and parties because they powers that be didn't the truth about his homosexuality to get out. I could honestly not care any less about Vin Diesel, so I don't know if he's publicly come out or not. Any info?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Damn, No edit buttons... Edits in CAPS

    by WickedRebel

    I was AD'ing a movie 5 or 6 years ago and one of the actresses told me that she was constantly struggling to land parts, yadda yadda... She said her highest paying, and most recurring gig, was to "play" Vin Diesel's girlfriend at red carpet events and parties because THE powers that be didn't WANT the truth about his homosexuality to get out. I could honestly not care any less about Vin Diesel, so I don't know if he's publicly come out or not. Any info?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    you keep what you kill!

    by Murkish

    chronicles of riddick sucked. they took a perfectly awesome character from pitch black and tacked on this retarded 'furyan' nonsense. it didnt help that i had to stifle a laugh every time i heard the word 'underverse'.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    CoR was a great sequel

    by HanSelo

    How many times have we seen a sequel that is just a re-hash of the first film? CoR took the character and bravely expanded the universe and delivered a fresh story. Ok, so it's not exactly the same as Pitch Black, but I can watch Pitch Black again if I want that story. Cor is a great Science Fiction film and almost epic in its scope. Fingers crossed for the sequel.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Hobo,

    by Novaman5000

    the narration is only present in the theatrical version and "you keep what you kill" is said by two different people. Vaako saying it to riddick in the theatrical makes more sense, and I like aeron's commentary about the situation in her narration. In the DC, there is no narration and Riddick says "you keep what you kill"... To me that totally changes the tone of the ending... One has destiny thrust upon riddick, the other has riddick taking it for himself, in my opinion.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Is there any Vin Diesel franchise...

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    they are not sequeling/reviving these days? Im not interested. Though I do admit I saw and kinda enjoyed crank 2. Which I had to se in order to kill some time up to the late night screening of I the film I originally wanted to see.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Who's betting ONLY the PG one gets made...

    by performingmonkey

    In fact, you already know this to be true. Chronicles of Daddy Daycare.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    original, maybe

    by Murkish

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    it was certainly unique in how awful it was

    by Murkish

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    It does have one of the best lines in movie history, though.

    by Mahaloth

    "He is not a man. He's the holy Half-Dead who has seen the UnderVerse."

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Skip Riddick and until HANNIBAL is done

    by NoHubris

    HANNIBAL THE CONQUERER could be a huge success, making it possible for Vin Diesel to launch a whole new science fiction franchise and skip Riddick altogether.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    "i'm gonna kill you with my teacup."

    by Murkish

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Escape from butcher....

    by viranth

    They need to make a movie out of the game. It could be so god damn badass.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Stop hatin' the Directors cut

    by vb4ever

    When you watch the theatrical cut you are left with a lot of questions about what happened in the movie. In the directors cut, a lot of those questions are answered regardless if you like those answers or not. The cool scene in the directors cut is when the guy walks out into the extreme sun heat and sacrifices himself after telling Riddick what was going on.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I think Riddick still has great story potential.

    by BanditDarville

    I love the idea of a loathsome criminal badass with night vision who becomes heroic to serve his best interests. Pitch Black was great. Chronicles had some good moments, but they dilluted the significance of the Furyan identity by having the gay Necro-Furyan. The porcupine/cougar guard dog things also looked rediculous. I don't have a problem with Vin Diesel. I feel bad that my boys and I unintentially stole his limo in Vegas. Wait-- No I don't.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    I can't become one of Vin's 5,653,436 fans

    by God's Brother

    unless, of course, I inhabit the skin of someone who already has

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    HE DIDN'T MEAN PG..

    by Rorschach1

    He meant PG-13, he was collecting the PG and PG-13 into a group. It's nearly impossible to make a PG movie anymore, let alone one about a man who (let us remember) eviscerates a man with a tea cup. That being said, I love both Pitch Black and COR, they're just fun films. But I don't think the rating makes one better or worse than the other. They're just different films with different stories, I think the rating thing is a little psychological more so. But I do think that if the writers had a vision for an R-rated Riddick film, if you tell them to make it PG-13, it won't be near the same quality. Creativity has a thing against being chained.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    More Riddick movies?

    by AsimovLives

    Cool.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    If they listen to what made the second so flawed

    by MANNZILLA

    We would get a great movie or two out of this franchise yet. Like I said before Riddick had ALOT of problems but it was a beautiful mess of a movie. It far better than the prequels.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Nova.

    by HoboCode

    I guess I haven't seen the TC in a while, but to me the tone is the same. Stop by the Lost TB sometime.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Yes!!! Shoot The Films As One Production...

    by Media Messiah

    ...and at the same time. I hope you guys use the Red Camera and film this in 3D. I am a big, big fan...and although I don't like "Chronicles of Riddick" very much, "Dark Fury" is a gem, and "Pitch Black" was great!!! And nothing can take away from the great twist ending of Chronicles--it was a small moment, really small, but loomed large with possibities, like a good climax of an episode of The Twilight Zone. Well, I am ready to buy my tickets--now all you have to do is make these films happen. PS: I would love to work on them, and hang-out on the sets. Keep me in mind if you're adventurous enough to hire someone like me.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    vb4ever...

    by NinjaRap

    Firstly, I never had any questions after watching the t-cut. But then I watched the director's cut and had a lot because weird things happen in that version that are never explained. Secondly, that scene you described with Linus Roache is in the T-cut as well.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Merrick : The Differences In The Director's Cut

    by Media Messiah

    It added some scenes of a female Furyan which helped the flow of the film...and I believe that there were other additions I have since forgotten but they were minimal, and if you blink, you would miss them. Twohy had discussed a scene that the studio told him not to film, where Thandie Newton gives her husband, played by Karl Urban a blow job as he sits on the Lord Marshall's thrown. I think it would be a great scene to see as it would add adult weight to the film, something that it is missing--but alas, they didn't film it, but it is discussed by Twohy and Karl Urban on a audio track which accompanies the diirector's cut DVD. Anyway, I hope they film that scene, and restore it to the movie as it would change the atmosphere aesthetically.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Twohy's Alien 3 script

    by MetiphisLabs

    I his Alien 3 script a loooooong time ago, and the prison scenes in Chronicles of Riddick are word for word recycled from his unused Alien 3 script. The Multi-level underground prison. They released giant dogs after lockdown instead of Aliens, etc. etc. I just hope he can make these new scripts without recycling material.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Yes there was some laughable

    by MetiphisLabs

    stuff in Chronicles. The "Underverse" "Necromongers". BAD BAD names.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Director cut spoils what happens to Jack, Merrick!!

    by JasonPratt

    While the other things stated are true, the most annoying difference is that the director's cut totally spoils what happened to "Jack" between films during the prologue, completely ruining the surprise. Overall, the DC has a lot more exposition, none of which is really needed and which generally ruins as much of the developing mystery as there is. The pacing is kludgier, too. The funniest thing, though, is Twohy's opening comment where he pompously tries to explain away remaining flaws in the editing process (where new footage was spliced back in) as being INTENTIONAL SO THAT PEOPLE WILL KNOW IT'S A NEW SCENE!! {rofl} I really can't think of any reason to prefer the DC; the guy walking out to sacrifice himself on Crematoria is still in the theatrical version, too (and is very poignant, no difference.) The only thing the DC includes that's actually useful (in a way) is a sort-of-explanation for why Riddick comes back to life at one point. (But really, in the original version he could just be seriously unconscious, too.)

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Twohy needs to pull a George Lucas...

    by thedarklinglord

    Only, in this instance, he'd actually do the movie justice by "fixing" some of the CGI/SFX and filming/inserting additional scenes. <br> <br> Flawed as Chronicles of Riddick was, I give Twohy a lot of credit for setting up an interesting story with loads of potential. I really think Twohy ought to bring in another writer, someone who can look beyond whatever Twohy already envisioned, whatever he has already set in his mind, and offer up new, potentially unimagined, possibilities of where to take things and how to unfold the story. Or maybe just add extra dimensions of richness to the characters and universe. Because I really think Twohy needs that outside input.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    WHYYY GOD WHYYYY??????

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    The list of alternate/extended scenes

    by ahdvd

    I updated a list on the imdb alternate versions when the DVD release hit, as i had seen both versions several times - here is what i listed- Director's Cut DVD release contains additional scenes and runs for approx 127 minutes. This includes some general alternate/additional footage that was cut from the theatrical versions for pacing and for a PG-13 rating. Additional scenes include: -A earlier introduction to Kyra, being forced into one of the empty hellhound cages on cremetoris. -The sub-plot of the Furyan energy is completely restored, several instances of these scenes are visible in the trailer for the film but not contained in the theatrical version of the film. -Riddick, while in cryo-sleep aboard Toombs' Skif en-route to Helion Prime is approached in a vision by Shirah (Played by Kristin Lehman as in the game "Chronicles Of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay"), and she starts to tell him about Furya before he is interrupted by his arrival at Helion Prime. -The Purifier's speech to the captured people of Helion Prime is longer (Director David Twohy on the commentary comments that this is the complete version as originally intended). -Vaako and Dame Vaako's discussion about the Lord Marshall being promoted to full death is extended, continuing with him and her discussing his demise and foreplay. -After Dame Vaako queries Aereon about Riddick, she discusses what she learns with Vaako over a telepathy/communication with him on the transport. -The fight sequences between Riddick and the Necromonger armies on the surface of Crematoria is completely unedited, containing full sound effects of the fight and is more visually brutal. -After the fight on the surface of Crematoria, Riddick is surrounded by Necromongers and Vaako is about to shoot him when Shirah re-appears to him and reveals the truth about what happened on Furya, the revelation sending out a blast from Riddick, knocking all the soldiers down and leaving Riddick unconscious - A shot of this "blast" can be seen in the trailer. -The ending is more abrupt, Riddick says "you keep what you kill" instead of Vaako, and Aereon's voice-over is not included.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Future CoR

    by Tenebre

    You know what might be really cool? Scrap the entire underverse sequel idea, just leaving Riddick with a few superhuman powers, nothing excessive. Make it rated R. Make future sequels about random hostile alien dictatorships that Riddick gets called in to dismantle. Make him almost completely amoral--the guy you call when you have absolutely no other choice because he going to destroy absolutely everything and everyone in his path while getting the job done. I see him as almost a Lobo character. Know what I mean?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    I could write something sarcastic...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    But I don't give enough of a shit to do so!...well alright here you go. Oooooh another 'Pitch Black' sequel? I smell an Oscar contender! ...That's better.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Theatrical Cut Was Much Better

    by TakeItEasyMon

    Still, more of this IP is most welcome, problems with COR and PB aside. What is wrong with you people not wanting more decent sci-fi out in theaters? It's like you people want to see transformers 4,5,6 or something. Anyway bring on more Riddick.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Here's how the committee meeting goes . . .

    by kabong

    R-rated makes projected profit of $100 million. <P> PG-rated makes projected profit of $100 million plus one extra buck. <P> The committee decides that the PG-rated script is a tremendously important work that must be made available to the world for the sake of humanitarian salvation.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Tenebre

    by TakeItEasyMon

    Good Points, they need to get back to him being a little more amoral/unpredictable. One of those cases where the cure (Riddick) is only slightly better than the problem... Could be a very interesting movie with "king" Riddick leading the Necromonger army against who knows what....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    fucks sake

    by Muki

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Pitch Black was refreshing but quite dull

    by LightninBolt

    And it had some slighly weak acting. Riddick was imaginative, epic, fun and action packed. If you're into sci-fi fantasy, Dune, Conan then you have to enjoy it... I would LOVE to see two more movies personally.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    TheDarklingLord: I Agree--About The George Lucas Part

    by Media Messiah

    You'll recall that I have been suggest that for some time now, actual a several years. Twohy and Vin need to put extra money into Pitch Black and enhance the special effects, sets, and the scenery--about 5 million. It is already a great film, but one that can be much better with those fixes. <BR><BR>In regard to Chronicles, however, the special effects during the planetary bombardment scenes are horrible...and the Devil Dogs need to be cut from the film entirely, they just don't work. I suggest Twohy use Zoic, the special effects company known for Buffy, Angel, Firefly, the new Galactica, as well as Serenity. Zoic does one hell of a job on visuals and could really bring Chronicles of Riddick up to the standards that it should be visually. Just about the only sequences that the effects people got right on Chronicles was the Lord Marshall's powers, and the prison planet escape--but all of the fire fights, within the ground combat and the space shots and aerial battle scenes looked horrible...and cheap??? Lastly, they need another recut of the film to shave off, and out, much of the Necromonger scenes. Seeing less of a villain makes that villain scarier. Think about it, in both Star Wars, and Empire Strikes Back, we only saw Darth Vader and the Imperials, about 10 minutes running time, in the whole of each film...respectively, although it seemed longer, as their appearances were cleverly placed throughout both movies.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Stick to video games.

    by hallmitchell

    There doesn't need to be another film.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Amended--TheDarklingLord: I Agree--About The George Lucas Part

    by Media Messiah

    You'll recall that I have been suggesting that for some time now, actually, for several years. Twohy and Vin need to put extra money into Pitch Black and enhance the special effects, sets, and the scenery--about 5 million. It is already a great film, but one that can be much better with those fixes. <BR><BR> In regard to Chronicles, however, the special effects during the planetary bombardment scenes are horrible...and the Devil Dogs need to be cut from the film entirely, they just don't work. I suggest Twohy use Zoic, the special effects company known for Buffy, Angel, Firefly, the new Galactica, as well as Serenity. Zoic does one hell of a job on visuals and could really bring Chronicles of Riddick up to the standards that it should be visually. Just about the only sequences that the effects people got right on Chronicles was the Lord Marshall's powers, and the prison planet escape--but all of the fire fights, within the ground combat and the space shots and aerial battle scenes looked horrible...and cheap??? Lastly, they need another recut of the film to shave off, and out, much of the Necromonger scenes. Seeing less of a villain makes that villain scarier. Think about it, in both Star Wars, and Empire Strikes Back, we only saw Darth Vader and the Imperials, about 10 minutes running time, in the whole of each film...respectively, although it seemed longer, as their appearances were cleverly placed throughout both movies.<BR><BR>About shooting extra scenes. I would like the Thandie Newton oral sex scene shot, and restored to the movie...as it would add more dimension to the film's Dark Star Wars mandate...as well, I think that we should see more merc scenes where Vin must deal with them. Like before, they get to Crematoria...and in the interim between Vin escaping Crematoria and making it to the Necromonger flagship. Say for instance, Riddick has sex with the female merc who was showing unspoken interest in him on the merc vessel? They brought that plot point up, her sexual interest in Riddick, but then abandoned it, and didn't further develop it??? As well, Kera and Riddick had an unspoken romance, and that should have turned into something demonstative. Yes, among the movie's flaws is that it is missing a definable romance. Let's see them kiss, make love, and a love develop on the run...so when Kera sells herself out, and later, when she dies, we can better feel Riddick's loss, and the horrible nature of her mistake--as she made that choice to sell-out after assuming Riddick was dead. This would make the irony really impactful upon the audience.<BR><BR>Back to the mercs--they serve to anchor the story and keep it based somewhat in the real world, as would the Thandie Newton oral sex scene that I have been mentioning, if shot and restoored to the film. It would give them, Twohy and Vin, the opportunity to do what George Lucas could not do with Star Wars, and that is to make it more adult, and mature, thus uniquely setting it apart, as the Dark version of Star Wars that Twohy and Vin originally promised us.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    The Director's Cut made it a great movie. Theatrical was bad.

    by TheSecondQuest

    The theatrical cut was empty, and to avoid the R-rated violence they had to edit down the action scenes, zoom them in and make them all shaky cam so that you couldn't tell what was going on (I was SHOCKED at how such a medicore action sequence like the hangar bay battle suddenly became a great action sequence with emotional weight in the Director's Cut). It also removed the more important personal mythology to Riddick's progression as a character by dropping the whole "mark of a murdered race" stuff. The ending is slightly different but only in terms of who has the final line- so it's just alternate angles and takes for the most part. The only thing the theatrical version has that the Director's Cut doesn't is the awesome "all back of thus bus" line. But that's a small price to pay for having a medicore action movie become an great epic one. There's really no reason to watch the theatrical version other than as a point of comparison. I'm actually very surprised to see so many people on this talkback supporting the theatrical over the director's cut because everyone I've ever watched the movie with or talked about with online about the movie have universally preferred the Director's Cut. The theatrical version of COR should be regulated to DVD extras for eternity and allow the Director's Cut to remain as the true version of the movie, and join the ranks of The Abyss: SE and Kingdom of Heaven as Special Editions/Director Cuts that create a superior movie desevring to be seen by people instead of the crappier one.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    I still don't like the direction they're taking this

    by Teddy Artery

    I'd rather Riddick leave behind the "King Conan" implications of the last film's ending and he escape a leadership position among the Necromongers, leaving the two schemers (Lady Vaco & Whatshisname) to ascend in a story that could be featured in comic books or in an animated DVD movie instead. Get Vin's character back to doing what he does best.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    I don't care about Furyans or the Underverse

    by MattmanReturns

    Those were poor attempts at giving Riddick's world some epic Lord of the Rings quality. It didn't work. Pitch Black worked because it was a small, clever story with some interesting characters. The bigger Riddick's world got, the less I wanted to know. Characters like Riddick are better suited to pulpy cult movies, like Escape From New York.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:53 p.m. CST

    And no one cares, yet again.

    by JoeSixPack

    The franchise is dead. Might as well film a 90 minute video of $100 million dollars burning. I'd definitely go see that.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    is Furya the same planet as Zeist?

    by DrManhattansUnit

    The only thing missing from CoR was Sean Connery as Riddick's wise mentor.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Theatrical vs. Director's Cut

    by bilzilla

    I saw the Director's Cut on DVD and loved the movie. I asked others if they had seen the movie - anyone who saw the Theatrical cut said it didn't make sense, anyone who saw the Director's Cut loved the movie.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST

    This is probably from the fevered dreams..

    by Orbots Commander

    ...of David Twohy and Diesel. Guys, move on. No studio is going to bankroll this; it's a failed franchise that never took off.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST

    I dig Riddick.

    by Pompoulus

    Great character, good movie. They sort of painted themselves into a corner though, I have no desire to see President Riddick and his Large Statue-Shaped Ship of Assholes.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    I'd love to see Riddick's adventures continue!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLO0D

    If he can make these movies a reality, I'll be in that theater on opening day. Chronicles Of Riddick was an incredible movie and I think the franchise has a lot of potential.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Holy fuck, it's Dickblood!

    by MattmanReturns

    I have to change my pants.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    The biggest problem with Chronicals was

    by veritasses

    the story/structure. The prison planet arc was well done but it was also a big distraction and shouldn't have been in the film. And I like Colm Feore but he was seriously miscast. That role required someone imposing, someone who could be seen as superior to Riddick. Feore's more like a nice neighor. <BR><BR> Riddick is a great character though and there's a ton of potential with the rich Riddick uinverse. I'd love to see what they come up with.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:50 p.m. CST

    "If your newspaper falls in my lawn, it will never rise"

    by MattmanReturns

    Yeah nice door neighbor is perfect for Colm Feore.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:50 p.m. CST

    *next door neighbor

    by MattmanReturns

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Dickblood that was the gayest comment on earth.

    by Mysterious_Volvo

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Homerotic bondage overtones involving a bald guy

    by BurnHollywood

    There. I said it.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST

    TARENTINO'S RIDDICK KILLS YOUR ASS

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    There have ALWAYS been 3 CoR Films Envisaged (ie 3 + Pitch Black

    by Stephen123

    Right back when Twohy first broached the idea of a Pitch Black sequel he said he had an idea for a Star Warsian-style trilogy of films that would focus on the Riddick character. Check the back issues of "Starlog" and other Sci-fi fan magazines. Or if you want something on the WWW, check out this 2004 webpage: "http://au.movies.ign.com/articles/495/495182p1.html". "Twohy, who adapted and directed Pitch Black says The Chronicles of Riddick is his most ambitious project to date. He turned down the script originally offered by the studio, telling them that it had to be a much more monumental story, and producing an idea for a trilogy of films. ... If the first one is successful, Twohy plans to film two more sequels back-to-back."

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    New Mythology...

    by yiannis

    While I don't dislike COR as such (good fun movie imo), I don't get why people who do like it are so eager to defend the "new" mythology Twohy created.<br><br>First of all, it's not that difficult to create a mythology. I imagine anyone on these boards could come up with something given a lazy afternoon and nothing else to do. What's difficult is creating a GOOD mythology... <br><br>... and that's the second point: Twohy's mythology isn't new at all. It's highly derivative of all manner of sci-fi cliches and staples. Think about how many times these have come up, in anything from pulp novels to Star Trek:<br><br>A benign, peaceful alien race, normally with some sort of mind powers (telepathy etc)<br><br>A feral, wild or nomadic alien race, usually there for scenes involving pure brawn, often soft and cuddly "on the inside"<br><br>A militarised, heavily industrial alien race, normally totalitarian and obviously evil<br><br>All "alien" races suspiciously look 100% homo sapiens<br><br>Alien races normally have some sort of parallel to obvious fantasy archetypes (Necromongers are obviously undead, and possibly elves for the "wise" Elementals)<br><br>A "chosen one" hero, usually unwilling<br><br>A "rogue" kinda character to inject a bit of cynicism and worldly knowledge, normally a sidekick (here, of course, the rogue is also the chosen one)<br><br>Enemy armies apparently not being a sufficient test of our heroes' mettle, nature will also have a go (ravening beasts, inhospitable locations etc)<br><br>An act of noble self-sacrifice from a supporting player helps the hero "when all seems lost"<br><br>One of the baddies has a "good heart" and changes sides (see also "self sacrifice")<br><br>A scene showing two (or more) people plotting in really obvious terms (e.g. "Let's kill the leader and take charge") that is somehow meant to signify "shadowy political dealings"<br><br>Despite having infinite resources at his disposal, the main baddie will ALWAYS face the hero in one-on-one combat, with 0% possibility of victory (unless there are two fights, in which case the baddie is 100% to win the first one, normally in the first act, so that the crushing inevitability of his later demise somehow seems "unlikely")<br><br>Despite the entire story taking place over a few days, or maybe at most a couple of weeks, someone can rise from effectively "peasant" to "king", with absolutely nobody objecting or passing comment. Said person is totally primed and ready psychologically to assume such a mantle, despite being a humble farmer/miner/slave with no aspirations when the story starts<br><br>You don't need to read every Joseph Campbell book to spot a cliche and COR is stuffed to the gills with them. I don't think it's a bad film as such. It's got good design work, plenty of action and it's good fun, so why can't that be reason enough to like it, instead of giving a poor attempt at a grand mythos undeserved praise?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    I liked the Director's Cut

    by Drath

    I skilled the theatrical version when I heard it would be missing a lot of scenes. I am glad I did, the Director's Cut kicks ass. Pisses me off that anyone DOESN'T like the intrigue with Vaako and his wife, that stuff was actually pretty cool and made me want a sequel more. I guess people like Thandie Newton and Judi Dench won't be back, which sucks.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    At least we'll get a cool videogame.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    They have been talking about TWO movies for a few years now

    by Poodinger

    Vin has mentioned this ON SEVERAL occasions.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    The geek love showered upon riddick

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    is bewildering. I love dune and Conan and hated this stupid ass movie.it just cherry picked a couple of things from those movies and added a steaming pile of mythology on top of it. Just because it stole conans ending doesnt make it a conan movie. riddick is one of the lamest stupidest psuedo scifi movies ever made starring an actor with the charm plank.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Yiannis, that was a great summary...

    by Orbots Commander

    ...of the usual Campbell-ian, mythological devices that have been used in movies for the last few decades.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    And martinlutherkrangjr is spot on.

    by Orbots Commander

    Chronicles of Riddick was lameness defined. I caught it on CABLE, and felt I wanted my money back.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    2 Riddick movies. Sure. At best you'll get...

    by JuanSanchez

    one cheap follow up and it will be dead for good.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    HATED THE CHRONICLES IN THE MOVIES

    by SHIA_LABEUFS_CHRISTMAS

    BUT THE DIRECTORS CUT MADE ME A HUGE FAN OF THE SERIES. my dad is a fan too, hope they make this happen.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    If JarJar Abrams directs the Riddick prequel

    by kabong

    Rick Riddick will be the coolest guy at Furyan High School. <P> And there will be a party scene. <P>

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    orbots, i must say that this tb

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    seems to have a lil more sense than the one a couple of weeks ago in which we were the only ones who seemed amazed at the love these movies were getting.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    this is serious z-grade sci fi

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    wayyyyy below trek(which i didn't really care for) or even i robot. at least i, robot was somewhat sci-fi and not the guy from right said fred wearing a wife beater and raver goggles cutting up some ridiculous looking villains.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    they basically lucased riddick

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    the same way that vader was. They took a cool character and then in the stupid unnecessary sequels took the character, tacked on a bunch or retarded extraneous plot and mythology and removed everything that made the character any good in the first place. instead of being a bad ass or whatever he was just some reluctant pawn fufilling a prophecy made by some half-assed supernatural force. furians=midichlorians.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Strangely...

    by Jaka

    ...I seem to have seen the Director's Cut, but never the original. The Furyan cut-ins... aways... whichever, are the only way I've seen COR and I enjoyed it well enough, but I'm not really a huge fan one way or another. I didn't really like PB any more or less than COR. That being said, I'll check out the DVDs of any further Riddick films, regardless of rating.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    A PG riddick?

    by xalener

    ...A FUCKING PG RIDDICK? Someone needs to chop a couple dicks off. Fow that fuck will that work? Wither way, The COR has a GREAT universe, and I'll line up to see the rated R one.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:50 p.m. CST

    The working title is...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    Riddick 2: Vin Diesel IS gay.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:02 a.m. CST

    "Riddick: Investors, Build A Pile Of Your Money And Set It Aligh

    by ol' painless

    Would be MY mother-lovin' title. How about a movie where Necromongers have sex with each other? Then we could call the movie "Riddick: Necrophilia."

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    i hope at the midnight showing of this

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    that there is a bunch of people wearing crazy costumes from this "cult classic", you know like black wife beaters and raver goggles.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:59 a.m. CST

    I liked Pitch Black

    by xsi kal

    ...where Riddick was just a killer who had, within his own narrowly defined world, evolved into an apex predator, and was suddenly faced with another's world version of the same.<br><br> I was less enthralled with the idea of trying to explain his being a badass by making him part of a wiped out race, with assorted ridiculous prophecies and mythology.<br><br> Top that off with one of the most ridiculous enemies ever in the Necromongers, with their Gotham-City-by-way-of-Joel-Schumacher inspired architecture... and I think it's pretty clear why I despised the second film.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 2 a.m. CST

    joel schumacher! exactly!

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    you hit the nail on the head xsi

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST

    No more comic con coverage?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You guys had 2 days of news. Most of it pics. Fuck that.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 7:36 a.m. CST

    The Furryan?

    by Toilet_Terror

    I hope he wears a whale suit.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 7:51 a.m. CST

    Who cares about an R ratingh? teenagers.

    by Smashing

    Colour me not that desperate to see another 18 rated film full of cliched swearing and excessive blood and guts, its over done and completely un-needed to tell a good story, as the second film proved.<P>Go for the family market again and let the need for bleed group go hungry.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST

    0% chance of winning? um... no.

    by JasonPratt

    Otherwise I agree with Yiannis' generic mytho-plotting breakdown. But Megatron and the Fallen end up having exactly 0% chance of winning against Optimus Prime; the Lord Necromonger is hugely winning against Riddick, despite Riddick getting in some good blows, and ends up losing kind-of-by-freak-accident: running away from one strike only to be lucky-stabbed by Riddick. (um, Spoiler. {g})

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 8:18 a.m. CST

    I wants some mores

    by redfist

    PB (great) and CoR (OK) and i want to see where they go next. The games rip your head off and shit down your neck.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    SecondQuest...

    by NinjaRap

    None of the action scenes are "zoomed in" or "shakycam" in the Theatrical Cut. All the action scenes in both versions of the film are IDENTICAL, with one exception - the addition of "slicing knife sounds" during the fight at the end of the Crematoria sequence.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    MERRICK

    by timmer33

    When Twohy pitched the idea of CHRONICLES 1 to the brass, he had two other scripts with him that he refused to show them. He basically said "If you want to see them you have to greenlight them." Well, the film tanked and those scripts never saw the light of day. I assume these two films are actually those scripts he had way back then. </p> </b> I think I read that here years ago.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Lucas for Riddick 3

    by scotsi

    Synopsis: Riddick to team up with a wisecracking rastafarian duck, and then the two of them discover the temple of the Midiclorian cult, a sect lead by a heavily CGI'D Harrison Ford.Much mirth ensues, especially due to Kevin Smith's Beloque-esque betrayal, setting up for Episode II.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Ending or Riddick = Conkers bad fur day

    by knowthyself

    Just saying.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Exactly, JasonPratt

    by yiannis

    Doesn't matter how he loses, does it? He still loses, like all generic genre baddies. Hence 0% chance of victory...<br><br>As for Orbots Commander, that was kinda the point. These are the typical Campbell cliches, I was just making the point that Riddick is full of them, really blatantly.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    RIDDICK: UNDERLEG IN THE UNDERVERSE

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    anyone named after a fossil fuel

    by Nabster

    by product is awesome. The world needs another cor movie.

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