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Harry has seen DISTRICT 9 three times and I am looking forward to many more!!!

Every now and again there is a film so special, so much better than everything else, that it flummoxes you. DISTRICT 9 is that film for me right now. I've seen it three times now and it just keeps getting better. How is that? Well, this is a movie that provokes strong reactions throughout the film. It is disturbing on multiple fronts. The aliens themselves are pretty repulsive looking, buzzing with flies - you can tell that they stink and live in squalor... but that they are in this shape, this squalor and decay... that is a shame at another level. A shame that we recognize. Not from previous films, but from the Nightly News. As Jim Kelly said in ENTER THE DRAGON, "Ghettoes are the same all over the world. They Stink." They stink indeed, but even Jim "Dragon" Kelly had never seen anything quite like this. When I went into this film, I knew that the budget was $30 million. I knew that no name actors were involved, that it was a first time director, who had impressive short film work and who was the man directing the HALO movie for Peter Jackson... back before that fell apart. So, I expected great things, but you know... you never know. At the budget... well, JULIE & JULIA cost $10 million more. How big could this really be? THE HANGOVER cost $5 million more. How "big" could this film be? This is EPIC science fiction taking place in a Shanty Town outside Johannesburg, South Africa. This is, to me, the most accomplished, provocative and intelligent science fiction I've seen in this new century. On Twitter I declared that this is the first great science fiction film of the 21st century - and was instantly slammed by people that love CHILDREN OF MEN and SUNSHINE. All I can really say is this, "Have you seen DISTRICT 9?" Because if you haven't. You can't even enter the conversation yet, and this is a conversation that you will want to be in on. Try comparing this to previous Sci Fi. It doesn't really look like anything we've seen before. Sure, there's elements that you could draw from ALIEN NATION, but this is nothing like that. As one person at the AICN Austin DISTRICT 9 commented, the basic story in some ways resembles an old Francis Ford Coppola film in the 60's, but that was a Fantasy Musical... about as different as you could imagine tonally... although there's some unmistakable parallels. The aliens themselves look like nothing I've really seen before. Many of you recall that I missed the last 20-30 minutes of DISTRICT 9 at Comic Con cuz I had a prior engagement that I had to get to. For 6 days, my wife and I discussed what we thought would happen next. We were so far off, so completely thrilled by where it did end up, that we literally wanted to see it again, that night. (sadly, we couldn't.) Then there's the annoying factoid that the film doesn't have any actors that we've seen before... not just that, but if you check the one-sheets... you won't find the name of the actor, whom you'll want to know the name of throughout the film. I'll get this out of the way real quick. His name is Sharlto Copley. He plays Wikus Van De Merwe. If you check his IMDB profile, you'll find that he's never acted before. That he apparently wrote, produced & directed a movie called SPOON in 2008. I know nothing about this film other than it apparently has supernatural elements and stars Rutger Hauer and was shot in Cape Town, South Africa and that I'm wildly curious to see it. But yeah... Sharlto Copley is about as off the grid as you get. He was a producer on Neill's ALIVE IN JOBURG - and technically he did appear as a sniper in a moment in that film... his only prior acting experience apparently. You'll come out of DISTRICT 9 stunned by Sharlto Copley. There's only one other performance that I've seen this year that struck me as amazing as this one... and that's Christoph Waltz as Col. Hans Landa in Tarantino's Basterds. But Christoph is an accomplished actor. Just not a high profile one. Sharlto is UNKNOWN, an amateur. Someone that had no dreams or aspirations to be in front of the camera, he wanted to be behind the camera. It also seems that Neill Blomkamp's directing technique was all Sharlto needed to add the layers of nuance that many of the most accomplished actors lack in even the best of movies. You'll be fascinated, mortified, offended by Sharlto's character in the first twenty minutes - and if I tell you now how you'll feel about him later... that'd be a spoiler. But one thing is certain. You'll want to see more of him. Neill strove for realism throughout the making of the film. He found a real Shanty Town outside "Joburg" to shoot in - and the details he captured are amazing. The actors are hot, sweaty, it stinks - and you as an audience member can tell... visually... that it stinks... that it's disgusting, that on every surface is a vile infection waiting to cause you to get a battery of shots. There are animal body parts everywhere... many... simply were there. Others were brought in to the scenes - to give an "air" to the scenes and it works. Then there's the effects. The reason the creatures look like the creatures is that Neill - as a former visual effects geek - he knew what surfaces and looks can be rendered by a computer that would look 100% perfectly real in the environments. As a result. The Prawns, as they're called, look perfect. Not only that, but 98% of all the "Prawns" you see in this film... they were all accomplished through the performance capturing of a single performer. Again. Amazing. Do not seek details about the story. I only do nationwide screenings for films on rare occassions. I try to do them whenever there's a film that I absolutely hope to see do well. And folks... DISTRICT 9 must succeed. Why? Because it is a truly great film. A film that asks us how we'll see future beings? Will we allow the ways of the past to dictate how we'll treat future sentient beings? But more than that, it's great filmmaking. Stunning filmmaking. The last 30 minutes or so -- it's concentrated badassery at a level that will have you cheering. This is what ORIGINAL filmmaking looks like. What happens when you let a first timer have exactly what he needs to make a film that just fucking blows your mind away. There's things here - like just how Wikus talks with the Prawn... how he understands them, but answers in English - it feels right. Especially in a city that has so many languages, and whose citizens must know multiple languages to simply exist. But when applied to a film like this. It's fantastic. Remember how Deckard would never speak the street speak in BLADE RUNNER, but he understood it? There's a degree of that here. And a lot of how I feel about this movie was how I felt about BLADE RUNNER as a boy. I watched that 3 times the day it opened at the Fox Theater in Austin. And this is not BLADE RUNNER, though it kind of is. It's about a civil service employee that has to do a job with a being that the citizenry of his time holds in the lowest of esteem. This isn't future LA, but current Johannesburg, but if aliens landed there in 1982. So what we have is a speculative history that leads up to an alternate today. Be prepared to feel a gamut of emotions - but know that the most prescient feeling you'll have coming out of DISTRICT 9 is that you are THRILLED. THRILLED to see something you could not have anticipated. Something new and wonderful and truly amazing. And when you see it again - and you will see it again, you'll hear things you didn't catch the first time, you'll see details you missed. And upon third viewing, you see even more. This is THE FILM of 2009 so far - and it will take something I can't anticipate to knock it off that pedestal. DISTRICT 9 is my favorite of the year so far.

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  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Can't wait.

    by seanny_d

    I need to see this immediately. I hope that Harry's hyperbole is on the money this time.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Fav of 2009?

    by nj13guy

    Wow. High praise indeed. Looking forward to seeing this.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    I Iike parties

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    I like fun<P> I want to live in a hamburger bun

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Can't wait

    by ahughes8491

    Looks amazing

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Well, I guess Harry liked it.

    by Mace13

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:17 a.m. CST

    on second thoughts

    by nj13guy

    I didn't hate transformers 2, which harry despised so am not sure if Harry and I are on the same page. :D I hope it's good.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Best films of the year (so far)

    by Kapowski

    Hurt Locker and Up. Thirst if it was 10 minutes shorter. Hopefully D 9 will be included.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST

    HOW COULD YOU PRAISE GI JOE...

    by ass clown

    Harry, you almost wona little bit of respect from me with your bashings of Transformers and Terminator Salvation, but after GI Joe, I just kind of feel like you're for sale to the highest bidder. I hope when Inglorious Basterds comes out you will have the balls to give it a fair review. Who knows, maybe that one will be good, but from what I am hearing, it sounds like crap. As for District 9, well, Neil B has won me over with the trailers for this and that Halo footage he had put together. I hope that your words are a little more accurate with this film than with that pile of crap GI Joe

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST

    HE COMPLETELY TURNS INTO AN ALIEN AT THE END

    by moviefan11

    what a predictable ending knew the ending the first time i saw a trailer and going to a screening confirmed it this movies so overhyped its not gonna have any legs if the trend that good reviewed movies bomb and bad reviewed movies score at the box office if anything if it wanted to succeed id want to be getting terrible reviews (how screwed is our culture for this)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Harry has seen the Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus

    by Thrillhouse77

    75 times - and can't wait until he has feeling in his ass cheeks again! He finally stopped climaxing during the 57th viewing!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST

    my top films of the year in no particular order

    by HEADGEEK

    DISTRICT 9, INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS, THE IMAGINARIUM OF DR PARNASSUS, UP, HURT LOCKER, CORALINE, 500 DAYS OF SUMMER and SQUARE

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST

    The big ending...

    by Juggernaut125

    the alien... IS HIS FATHER!!! DUn dun duuuunnnnnnn!!! Actually, I like what I've seen so far and I'm very much looking forward to this film. G.I. Joe sucked, btw. Bad bad movie.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Harry, is that The Square?

    by OutlawsDelejos

    The Nash Edgerton film?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Hope you're right Harry

    by lochkray

    2009 has been a pretty weak year (especially the summer). It would be nice to have a real Matrix-esque surprise of a mind blowing movie. After Wolverine, Transformers, Watchmen, GI Joe, etc - when the best we've gotten is another Harry Potter, another Pixar and a reboot of Star Trek (all good) - this year desperately needs something worth paying $14.00 to experience.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:32 a.m. CST

    I am so glad

    by ivanemoore

    I was in the first screening. The one where Harry disappeared during it. I had no idea what I was getting into. There were no reviews out yet because nobody had seen it. I now do my best not to tell people what they are going to see, but to all but push them into the theater seat. My favorite film this year by far.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Harry is right.

    by neoroosta

    This is easily the best film so far this year. I walked out of the screening last Thursday trying to think of a film that I enjoyed more than this one and I still can't decide if there ever were any.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Aliens among us?

    by yungb

    Can't wait! so hyped the first time I saw the first trailer.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST

    Harry, per yer best films list

    by Kapowski

    I take it that you have not seen Thirst yet.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST

    PLEASE BE RIGHT

    by HaterofCrap

    MY GEEK RAGE HAS BEEN IGNITED FAR TOO MANY TIMES DURING THIS HELL SUMMER.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Believe the hype

    by Olorin222

    I was lucky enough to see District 9 in Austin on Friday(thanks, Harry!). I agree with everything Harry said. Its a great film by Blomkamp and a great perfomance by Copley. By the way, moviefan11, why would you spoil the ending of the film? Did you hate it that much? Just for spite? Seriously, I would like to know.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    overhyped

    by moviefan11

    its so over hyped what a terrible predictable ending just saving people the pain

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Harry, thanks to you I have seen D-9 and CoM is better

    by YackBacker

    I get your love of the movie, and it is good science fiction, but it's not really EPIC or grand in my opinion.<p> SPOILERS: I've posted this in another talkback, but my main gripe is the premise. Are we really to believe that these aliens, with their advanced knowledge of the Universe and science, would be 1) allowed to be under the sole jurisdiction of a private defense firm and 2) ignored by the leading world governments? They are simply the most important resource for our species' survival. They can tell us what else is out there, what possible threats we may face, etc. I get that this is an allegory about apartheid and other "wrongs" from our history, but it's just too much to swallow in terms of reality. <p> My other major gripe was Sharlto's character. As the protagonist, he was too much of a douche to stand at times. Even when he betrays Christopher, it rings false. It's as if he went out of his way to be a jerkoff. His dim-witted reaction to his initial transformation (losing his fingernails and not going to the doctor) is really tough to swallow as well. Yes, he's redeemed but sweet jesus, it took so goddamn much for that to happen, it was more aggravating than uplifting.<p> I loved the look and feel, and I think there were good ideas throughout the movie (but reducing Nigerians to bug-eating witch doctors was not one of them!). But in the end, a movie like CHILDREN OF MEN towers over this film because it has a tighter concept, is infinitely more based in "reality" (in terms of character motivation and societal structure) and its message was more coherent and well-delivered. D-9 is a solid, middle-tier sci-fi film. In a summer of shit, it shines brighter than most. But that's not a basis for overhyping it either...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Yeah, but have you seen MOON, Harry?

    by ErnestBorgNine

    Because that movie was fucking great.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Actually Harry, you dont need to speak multip

    by southafricanguy

    le languages to get by in Joburg (or Jozie if you re a local) because as with eveywhere else in SA English is the main secondary language, so if you speak English (or Engels) then you will get by just fine. Though as you say it helps to have familiarity with Afrikaans and Xhosa, maybe a bit of Zulu....

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:41 a.m. CST

    no trek love from harry

    by darth rod

    interesting list harry, surprised you give the finger to jj trek after the love you poured on your review

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Harry, I do want to reiterate my gratitude for the screening

    by YackBacker

    Thanks, big fella. NYC loves AICN. Jonathan did a great job organizing and executing the operation.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Really looking forward to D9...cant belioeve

    by southafricanguy

    someone has actually made a good SA movie, let alone a good SA sci-fi movie...geez I wonder if hell will officially freeze over now? (this being due to SA films being super shitty for the most part). This Summer has been so shitty, wolverine, Tf2, t4 AND GIJOE HAVE ALL SUCKED horribly. Only Up and Star trek were good imho. There is only this, Avatar, and Sherlock Holmes to save the year for me.....

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST

    TREK & MOON

    by HEADGEEK

    I love both of those films, and the list I put up was literally off the top of my head and not with GREAT THOUGHT - going through the year, but just putting down the truly great films of the year. <BR><BR>I love STAR TREK, but upon multiple viewings, I feel the villain is a bit weak and could have been stronger as a character. Though overall, I have no real issues. <BR><BR>MOON is a wonderful film, but one that I feel prays stylistically a bit on Nostalgia for the look and feel - which were not visually as innovative as I would have preferred. BUT the acting, story and themes were incredibly satisfying.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST

    can moviefan11's post be deleted please?

    by Talkbacker with no name

    With spoiler warning in the title I would have skipped past it, but the Ending in the fucking header of the message!? moviefan 11 you are a fucking cunt!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Hey MovieFan

    by FuryofthefilmFan

    Does it feel good to shout out a big ass spoiler like that on the subject? Seems like a big ol' cry for attention. Just look at how you use all caps for it too. What a prick you are, seriously. It takes a special kind of douche bag to want to purposely ruin a movie for people. You know what's predictable? You having a very small dick with a wife who cuckolds you with the neighbor.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Though I must also point out that the sad realit

    by southafricanguy

    y is that for South Africans the scenes (from what i ve seen in the trailers) in the townships (shanty towns) are nt shocking at all because we have become so used to them, and their look has become part of our national frame of reference....

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry....im interested to know your

    by southafricanguy

    thoughts/predictions on Avatar as you have seen some footage. Would you say its innovative/exciting/something we have nt seen before?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    SAguy, question for you

    by YackBacker

    I don't want to spoil the movie for you, but I came away with it feeling like Nigerians in particular were portrayed as almost sub-human in their devotion to "eating" things to absorb their soul. Is that mentality something that's common within the region/continent?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    compared to D9? that is....

    by southafricanguy

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Predictable?

    by Olorin222

    Moviefan11, saying that you could predict the end of the film by seeing the trailers is completely bogus. Could you jump to that conclusion, sure, but also a hundred others. Second, that particular plot point is not really what this film is about. Its not the "twist" that makes or breaks a film like Orphan, Perfect Getaway, or any Shyamalan movie. It only serves to explore the real theme behind the entire story: the relationship between the humans and the prawns. You were disappointed by the film, you believe its over-hyped: fine that is fair criticism, lets discuss it. But there's still no reason to spoil a plot point in your subject line other than pure malice.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:54 a.m. CST

    ITS A CHEESEY SCI FI MOVIE WHO CARES ABOUT NIGERIANS

    by HaterofCrap

    stop wanting everything to be so fucking PC for fuck sake. its a movie about fucking cockroach alienmen being bullied by the fucking south african government. absurd from top to bottom.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:56 a.m. CST

    moviefan11 = cunt.

    by OutlawsDelejos

    That's some solid math!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    HaterofCrap, relax buddy

    by YackBacker

    The filmmakers pride themselves in this being "realistic" and I think they ironically portrayed Africans as being pretty backwards and barbaric. And if you've seen the film, the SA govt. isn't involved in the "treatment" of the aliens at all. It's not about wanting anything to be PC, but I guess your snap-judgments and overreacting kept you from thinking before speaking...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:02 a.m. CST

    HaterofCrap

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Yeah let's just take out all of the themes, subtext and fun out of it and just label it something really simple and dumb. Bladerunner was just a guy that wants to kill a robot right? You're an idiot.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Not Going to See It

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    I can tell without looking at more than the ads that this will be yet another indictment of Corporate America - even though it's not set in America. "Don't you SEE?" one of the characters will say. "It's MAJOR CORPORATIONS that represent the EVIL of HUAMNITY!" Then, some dude will make a "selfless" (sic) choice IE one that results in his death or something equally tragic, the aliens will escape and we'll be left with a poignant look at "what we lost." F*** YOU, NELL BLOFELD. I refuse to be suckered in by the promise of armored suits and supposed "intense action" when I know this will just be one more liberal rant. Bye.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST

    YackBacker....

    by Olorin222

    Actually, the S.A. government hired the military contractor, MNU, that is responsible for most of the atrocities. So, while the S.A. government is not "personally" responsible for the prawns' treatment they are responsible for hiring and over-seeing the organization that does. The S.A. government is not without blame in the film.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:08 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by HEADGEEK

    it isn't like anything I've seen before.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Mixed Reaction (*SPOILER*)

    by MediaNerd

    I saw this last week with a small group(and I guess with the first Q&A with the Director and Star). <br><Br>The movie is fun for the most part; one part aliens('the company' the 'mech' at the end) + one part old cronenberg body-horror + a few other classics.<Br><br>But the movie is not as smart as it wants to pretend. Character motivations are questionable at times. The documentary style bookends really did not work for me and threw off the story. In the end it was a action movie that kept looping back on itself to force more action. Mind you that action was really good and the vfx are fantastic, but the story is not refined, complex, or groundbreaking.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Spymunk

    by Olorin222

    Well, first off, I recommend watching the film before you come to any judgments. The ad campaign has been deliberately misleading. Give it a chance, "corporate America" is not the bad guy in the movie as you suppose, but the human race may be.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Very excited...

    by vettebro

    I was always impressed with Blomkamps short films. I will be first in line on Friday!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST

    Thanks Harry

    by bwood

    for the screening in NYC. I'ma see it again loved the film and it's sad that townships in Africa will never get better. BTW I thought the main character was a scumbag. Now I gotta see this, Ponyo & The Goods this weekend. I wish Neill was at the NYC screening I have a few questions for him.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST

    wow ThusSpakeSpymunk

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Fighting on the behalf of Corporate America? Show the people who is boss! Capitalism has been oppressed long enough!<p>...far out. Have I walked into a talkback in the twilight zone or something?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Olorin222, good point

    by YackBacker

    But I think HaterofCrap was being hasty in his flip-out. Whatever the case, I couldn't get past the world, let alone a government, wanting to hand over alien oversight to a private defense contractor. If anything, the governments of the world would want to keep access to this resource of knowledge away from private groups, and under the control of the public sector for its own benefit. I know the point of this movie was to talk about subjugation and bigotry, but this wasn't the right set of circumstances to be even remotely believable. And what would have happened if MNU developed a way to use the alien tech? Would the UN or the major industrial/military powers of the world really let a private company dictate the allocation of that technology? Heck no. That material would be confiscated under any number of existing police powers. MNU is a work of fiction. There would never be a profit made by their work. Never.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Moviefan11 = sorry ass piece of dickless human shit

    by Big Dumb Ape

    It's a geek site for geeks to discuss movies. It's supposed to be a fun, communal place to hang out. As such, I've got no problems with someone going into details ONCE a movie has opened and people have had a chance to see it, and then it can be discussed OR if someone feels a need to jump the guy, but they at least declare that they're going to reveal a major spoiler.<p>But when a total killjoy like Moviefan11 decides out of pure arrogance that he's going to ruin everyone else's fun...and then justify it with a lame toss away excuse of "just saving people the pain"...that's the pure definition of a sorry ass piece of dickless human shit.<p>Harry, since you liked the movie so much and since so many people here are looking forward to seeing it, yank Moviefan11's post ASAP so he doesn't ruin the movie for anyone else. Then just ban the fucker for being a total son of a bitch.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the screening, we had an amazing time

    by FuryofthefilmFan

    seriously, good looking out. This was such an amazing film the crowd was so into it and cheering and laughing and reacting to the horrors. Anybody who doesn't like this movie doesn't like film...period

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:21 a.m. CST

    by moviefan11

    freedom of speech look it up

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:21 a.m. CST

    I agree, BAN MovieFan

    by FuryofthefilmFan

    I wish I could punch that guy in his stupid nose. If he was on that line in New York today I think I could take him. I coulda taken on 95 percent of those guys...maybe not that hillbilly biker crew that sat in the front those guys looked rough.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Thus Spake

    by HEADGEEK

    you sir, are seriously making a bad decision. To think that a South African raised filmmaker, a South African cast, with a New Zealand production partner and financing from Japan's SONY... that made a film that is CLEARLY about the horrors of a class & race based society - that continues to have intense societal issues - is giving two shits about an indictment of CORPORATE AMERICA. Well, you're wrong. How a country treats 1.8 million stranded aliens isn't a corporate issue. MNU is a multi-national group brought in by the South African Government to deal with the Alien issue. If anything this is simply an indictment of some elements in society that act in an inhumane way. The United States is never mentioned. Neither are China, Japan, France, England, Germany, etc etc... This is a very localized film. They never touch on or deal with World Media. This is a very SOUTH AFRICA film... dealing with Universal issues of immigration.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:23 a.m. CST

    moviefan, you don't enjoy protected speech here

    by YackBacker

    Look up what freedom of speech actually means.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Sunshine is very underrated

    by MattmanReturns

    I'm looking forward to District 9. Always up for good sci-fi.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:25 a.m. CST

    I second "Ape's" request...

    by vettebro

    "moviefan11" is a inconsiderate, mindless cunt. Fate will take care of dickless wonders like you Fuck-O!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    moviefan11 There is no such thing here

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Your posts can be deleted and you can be banned. So no there is not freedom of speech here. You can't say whatever you want without it being moderated. Didn't think you needed to confirm what an idiot you were, that was proved in your first post, but thanks for confirmation anyway.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry...

    by vettebro

    why did you completely ignore me at Comic Con???

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Serious SciFi Armament

    by ENAN

    The Prawn weapons alone made this an unforgettable flick, but they were really just the icing for some serious filmmaking. The documentary shell of the film enabled us to view the main character through more sympathetic lenses. Our dark hero Wikus comes off an alien amongst his own family and friends. Even at work his value is marginalized until the metamorphosis begins. His relationships and job are dependent on a strange brew of shrewd gullibility. He is a crossbreed of Ben Richards(Running Man)and Michael Scott(Office). Wikus is incapable of keeping his hand out of other peoples affairs and ends up losing himself in a desperate search for difference. His repugnant character ultimately becomes endearing because of how helpless he is to the transformation. Even with his final swing of selfishness, we are made to care more about his plight as subject than the Prawns he has ruthlessly objectified. His ability to remain the central player in the film becomes urgent for the audience because we are not likely to follow him as Prawn. Worth and watchability are exclusive to the human race. If Wikus goes, no matter how awful he is as a man, even the gentlest, metal-rose bending Prawns are sub-existants and signify the end. Somehow this profound character shift isn’t forced and humanity is eventually reflected through an exoskeleton, but at such a cost. The director mentioned Alien and Aliens being his favorite films at the Chicago screening and District 9 maneuvers similarly to those sci-fi gems. Those movies made me more excited about the human imagination than any silly religion or fairy tale ever could. Alien invasion films cannot be beat as a film-going experience and District 9 stacks up in every respect.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    potterfanjer@gmail.com, wow what a sissy email address!!!

    by YackBacker

    Harry, you fucking rock!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Right back at you, Yackbacker

    by Olorin222

    I agree with ya, Yackbacker. Haterorcrap over-reacted, something that happens alot in talkback. You bring up great points about the plot. We, as the audience, have to suspend our disbelief, but the fact that we care or are even discussing the minutia of the back story in such detail is a testament to the world Blomkamp created. I want all those questions you asked answered and explained too. But this movie really just focuses on Wikus' story and really doesn't deviate into the "global" picture. May be we'll get the answers to our questions in the sequel.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST

    moviefan11 Enjoy your freedom of speech

    by Talkbacker with no name

    While sitting therebanned reading this. <p>...right back to the movie. Out of interest is the action shot like the Halo short he did?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    FuryofthefilmFan

    by bwood

    I don't think you can beat me or my boy's ass.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Olorin222, yeah a sequel is in order

    by YackBacker

    There's a lot left on the table that another film can address. While I didn't love the movie, I do take it seriously as an effort. I think another TBer mentioned that it's not as "smart" as it purports, and while I think that's a tad harsh, I do feel like these "documentary" types of films do place themselves in a degree of peril in that they insist on being taken more seriously as a form of realism. Wikus was a bitter pill for me to swallow as a character for 90% of the movie, but where he arrives at the end is a fascinating character to explore. And I will say that Christopher and his son, Little CJ are the shining characters of the film. Little CJ will whip all of your asses on XBOX Live.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    SUNSHINE

    by VWantsRevenge

    I've been telling everyone it's the best sci-fi film I've seen since SUNSHINE, but that film is so polarizing, I often use THE MATRIX because as I said in the other TB, this is a game changing film. You feel it after it's over. Everything that comes after this will be informed and influenced by it. Just like THE MATRIX in 1999. What's it with years that end in 9's?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Seriously Harry...

    by vettebro

    How come Stephen Sommers can't get the same CGI quality in his films that have bigger budgets than district 9? What is Blomkamps secret?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:40 a.m. CST

    good move Harry

    by awardgiver

    I think banning should be done more often, like at somethingawful.com, and people PAY to register over there. I know, free speech, blah blah, but this is not THE PEOPLE's site, its yours. Start banning these assholes who spout off intolerant, racist, and threatening bullshit. They want free speech, let them start their own goddamn site. Trolling is abusing that freedom. Maybe with more action like that, it will be more enjoyable to read talkbacks instead of the inane crap I've seen here for years. Oh, and here's hoping District 8 hits Alamo Drafthouse Houston...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Hell ya!! CJ rocks.

    by Olorin222

    I would not want to compete with that little prawn at anything involving computers. As for Wikus, I couldn't agree with you more. Here's to civilized discussion on talkback. Read and learn, moviefan11.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Better remove my email address from profile on this site.

    by lochkray

    In case I accidentally reveal that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father. Aw shit...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:44 a.m. CST

    WETA Digital fucking delivered the goods, I agree

    by YackBacker

    I loved loved loved the character CGI.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Bad CGI

    by vettebro

    Nothing takes me out of the movie faster than bad CGI. (GI Joe/Mummy 2/any Stephen Sommer's film for instance) It's hard to keep the "suspension of disbelief" when the movie turns into a unintentional cartoon. Do you know what I mean?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST

    I can't wait.

    by Floyd_the_Barbarian

    I already have my ticket, i just hope it wins my non geeky friends over, that will be the true testament of how good it is

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:49 a.m. CST

    vettebro

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Weta Digital

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Thats the really question....

    by Olorin222

    Will this movie cross-over? Will the general public go see this movie or do we have another Drag Me To Hell on our hands?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Vettebro

    by HEADGEEK

    a lot of it has to do with what you're going after. Sommers isn't reproducing or working with reality. His vision runs more cartoonish, and it is reflected in his work. That's a style difference. I can take it either way. GI JOE is fun. It isn't about the real world, nor was it ever supposed to in my book. GI JOE isn't BLACKHAWK DOWN and should never be. GI JOE was a cartoon and still is.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:58 a.m. CST

    I predict this movie will do modest business

    by YackBacker

    Its not a testament to its quality, I just think that the general public will be looking for something a little more action-oriented and not find D-9 to be that film. I'd say it's final box office will end up around $100 million. For a $30 million movie, that will be phenomenal. But what it really means is that the economic model for your mainstream Hollywood movies is fucking silly. I've always maintained we could get a slew of great genre movies for under $50 million. A lot of DC and Marvel movies could have gone this path. I mean GHOST RIDER cost $110 million! D-9 kicked its ass in terms of production values.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:59 a.m. CST

    If it's as good as the hype...

    by vettebro

    Then word of mouth will make it a success. I remember when Matrix came out. I didn't have any interest in seeing it initially. My co-workers were so excited after seeing it later that week, they compelled me to check it out. I was blown away. I told my friends, they told their friends, on and on...It was a hit! I remember Star Wars happening the same way. The sad part is, this could make Neil Blomkamp a star. I'm hoping that stardom doesn't bring his film making quality down like it did for the Warshowski brothers or George Lucas.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Harry, I think what vettebro means is that

    by YackBacker

    Bad CGI takes the element of danger out of the Sommers movies. It may be intentional on his part, but black levels being off and motion being jerky doesn't work in action movies period. VAN HELSING was a prime example of CGI removing all sense of caring or tension.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST

    MATRIX is a mainstream actioner through and through

    by YackBacker

    Same with STAR WARS. D-9 is hard sci-fi for the most part. I'd be surprised to see the general public flock to this in droves.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Blomkamp's Future

    by Olorin222

    Well, if we take him at his word, Blomkamp told the audience in Austin he really doesn't want to make a film with a production budget over $50 million. Of course, greed conquers all...we'll have to wait and see.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Harry...

    by vettebro

    I agree with you. GI Joe IS a cartoon movie. I meant my point to be about the quality of the CGI itself. Some movies really take the time to "blend" real scenes with quality CGI and it works. Obvious,bad CGI takes me out of the film, regardless of the style is all I'm saying.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Blomkamp making the FOUNDATION movies would rock

    by YackBacker

    Get Emmerich away from that project!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:09 a.m. CST

    YackBacker...

    by vettebro

    Having not seen D9 yet, I cannot disagree with you. However, if it's as good as I'm reading, then I will sure do my part to get the word out! :D

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:12 a.m. CST

    vettebro, defintiely!

    by YackBacker

    I recommend it to any genre fan for sure. It has a BSG flavor to it in some ways- making sci-fi gritty but with actual character work too. I hope you enjoy it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Yo, Harry

    by Olorin222

    I wanted to ask Neill this at the Austin screening, but never got a chance, so I hope you can shed some light: How exactly did Peter Jackson meet Blomkamp and do you think we'll see more collaborations between them?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Super Fun

    by Olorin222

    The last 30 minutes are pretty much non-stop sci-fi awesomeness. Keep an eye out for a very special appearance by a huge pig. Explaining that statement would just ruin the moment. Trust me.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:35 a.m. CST

    D9 vs CoM

    by Yosh

    I have to agree with YackBacker's first post. As much as I enjoyed D9--I thought it was way above average for this kind of film, with a very well-constructed world, a great lead performance and some highly enjoyable action--to say that it's a better sci-fi film than Children of Men is pure lunacy. CoM was more consistent, more believable, more interesting, more intelligent, better shot, better acted, and better written. In my opinion. This is not me wanting to rag on D9, which I really enjoyed. I just agree with YackBacker that the best terms to describe it are "solid" and "middle-tier". CoM, on the other hand, is a masterpiece. But they can't all be masterpieces.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:35 a.m. CST

    GI JOE AND DISTRICT 9!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    BEST FILMS OF THE YEAR 2009!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:36 a.m. CST

    How do I convince my snooty girlfriend

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    to see this with me?? God she's so stuck up

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:36 a.m. CST

    This makes me happy.

    by EveryonesReimagining_or_ER

    Very, very happy. And there are pigs in this too!? OH I'm so there.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Harry giving away that little bitch's e-mail...

    by SebastianHaff

    Is the coolest thing he's ever done. Seriously. I hope MovieFan11's e-mail is flooded with gruesome man on horse pics, or bombarded with lemonparty.org images. Harry, that was so badass of you, I am perfectly willing to eat the shit out of your asshole right now.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    These things I believe

    by Olorin222

    I think Moon, Children of Men, Sunshine, and District 9 are the best examples of the sci-fi genre that we have seen since 2000. While we can disagree as to what order we place them, I think they're all "top tier".

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST

    THE movie of 2009 THE!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You know it's damn good when THE is capitalized

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to this

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Though, as usual, the hype machine will no doubt result in me being disappointed. <p> BTW Didn't Peter Jackson say that WETA didnt work on this movie because they were too busy on AVATAR?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3 a.m. CST

    Hrmm.

    by EveryonesReimagining_or_ER

    Way too much praise for Children of Men on here. Hate to be that guy but it's true. How many people on here seriously had a taste to watch COM, out of the blue, just in the mood to watch something? Never had that with this one. Dope effects, great plot, not nearly as thought-provoking as Michael Caine's role.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:02 a.m. CST

    excuse me

    by EveryonesReimagining_or_ER

    Sir Michael Caine.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Really looking forward to seeing this

    by Yeti

    My guess is the underlying message is that we really haven't learned ANYTHING from aparthied. We are a decidely self destructive, stupid species.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:08 a.m. CST

    There are a lot of secrets in District 9

    by G100

    And if it's as good as most are saying then it appears that the trailer WAS fucking with us.<p> <p>Can't wait to see it even if it was just a transposed meditation on apartheid. But I get the feeling there's a bit more to it.<p> <p>Also, douchebags calling it a "liberal" Movie and getting whiny because it shows some humans are assholes, or corporations can be assholes. You are a joke douchebags. You are the punchline to Stephen Colberts, Movies that are destroying America, gags and you should be watching Beck or O'Reilly on a continual loop 24/7 for your sins. Partisan hacks offended by subject matter and their own interpretations of it before they have even saw it don't deserve to watch good Movies.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Yackbacker, how come you didn't like Wikus?

    by IndustryKiller!

    I havent seen the picture yet and Im so fucking stoked Im just trying to understand where to temper my expectations. Was it a problem with the performance? Or, as some have said, he's a terribly unsympathetic character for most of the film? From the clips I've seen Copley looks good and Im so happy about a newcomer headlining a summer film I would hate to think it doesn't work out.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Can I go anywhere on the net without some douchebag

    by lockesbrokenleg

    praising Stephen Colbert?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Who the fuck cares about District 9...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    ...when A V A T A R is fucking our eyeballs in 2009?<p>nobody

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Good as it was we've all seen CoM before

    by G100

    There were enough dystopian science fiction Movies in the 70's and even before then that trod remarkably similar ground.<p> <p>Is Children of Men extremely well shot and clever and polished ? Fuck yes. Did I watch it and feel here is something I haven't seen before ? Fuck no.<p> <p>Even the fertility McGuffin feels over-familiar to that type of dystopian science fiction.<p> <p>So do I hope District 9 will at least feel and be a bit more different than just another human dystopian civilisation Movie, however smart ? Yes.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Joe Public doesn't seem convinced

    by Dr Sidney Schaefer

    Harry, I'm quite amazed at the level of your adulation for this film. I may be doing some selective reading of posts, but it seems to me that the majority of the public that have seen the film (myself included last week), seem less than wowed by the movie. Sure its a nice idea, and the effects are solid and what they've done with the production budget is impressive. But the characters, leaps in logic and overall feel of the film left me, and it seems many others) remarkably underwhelmed. I was really hoping to love this film, but everyone at the screening I saw came away saying "meh". Call me callous but I just didn't CARE for anyone in District 9, and so wasn't involved in the story. I'm with YackBacker and many others, definitely not one of the films of the year.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:27 a.m. CST

    I agree with SebastianHaff...

    by Unknown Canadian

    ...best move I've ever seen on this site, Harry! I accidentally ruined the end of the Lord of the Rings novels for a buddy of mine in grade 6, and I STILL feel bad about it! MovieFan11 is quite the douche to do that to the masses on purpose! I'm just glad I got to this article late enough to NOT have that pigfucker ruin a movie I'm dying to see! Props, Harry. You did the right thing for the right reasons!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:28 a.m. CST

    seems like I hit a raw nerve there. I wonder why ?

    by G100

    Calling attention to Colbert using partisan douchebags as a punchline is hardly praising Colbert lavishly. It's pointing out that the douchebags are a joke and a gag that we all enjoy laughing at.<p> <p>It's simply using Colbert as an easy reference point and shorthand for those too dumb and partisan to see the whining for what it really is. Or for those dumb enough to prove the point and fall into the trap of attacking the reference point out of the self same partisan hackery and douchebaggery.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:44 a.m. CST

    this review sounds almost exactly like his 'Cloverfield' review

    by Windowlicker74

    does someone even remember that movie?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:51 a.m. CST

    I hope

    by There_will_be_Dickblood

    this does well. But I have a feeling it wont. Moon just about did 5 mill so far

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Re: CoM

    by Yosh

    EveryonesReimagining: I may not get the urge out of the blue to rewatch CoM over and over, but I hardly think that's the best measure of a film. It resonated with me very strongly and struck me as a superb piece of cinema, both thematically and technically. I can appreciate that you didn't love it all that much, that's fair enough. Not sure what you meant about Michael Caine's role, though. <br> G100: If you didn't think CoM was particularly original, don't get your hopes up too much for D9. It's a really fun and well-made film, set in a very well-constructed universe, but in no way does it do anything more groundbreaking than CoM did. And it's not as smart as CoM.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:06 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by zer05um

    OMG - You are SO right. If he does Foundation I'm there like a shot

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Yackbacker...sorry for the late response dude

    by southafricanguy

    but to answer your question, The Nigerians are viewed very negatively in Africa. The reason is that they enter most African countries (especially South Africa as its the wealthiest African country) illegally, and then they are almost always involved in drugs, prostitution, scams, and general organized crime. They are generally viewed as being very immoral and untrustworthy by other Africans. Hope this helps dude...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Ok Harry you got me. But if it sucks it's on your head!

    by Orionsangels

    Hehe, seriously though. That was a fun review to read. I'm now very excited and intrigued to see this film.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Why should films always have to have well known actors?

    by Orionsangels

    Obviously a well known established actor draws more people and thus more ticket sales, yes! but If a movie is good. It's good and word of mouth can make or break a film. Star Wars in 1977 is a perfect example of that. All unknown actors minus one and I don't have to tell you how that turned out. If movie looks good to me, fuck who stars in it. Just gimmie good entertainment damn it!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Harry, serious question...

    by Orionsangels

    Do you think District 9 has a chance of being nominated for Oscars?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:49 a.m. CST

    The moviefan situation...

    by VicenzoV

    I'm not going to send him my love. Good review Harry.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:51 a.m. CST

    District 9 is a mess not groundbreaking

    by kidrobot71

    While District 9 is admirable in it's attempt the execution is seriously lacking. I'm glad to see that many others were under-whelmed by this film because it's a mess. It has no idea if it wants to be a documentary style film on an intimate level or a high end action movie. The director has no sense of pacing at all and character motivations are questionable at best. It's no surprise Harry is all atwitter about this film because it's the new "cool movie" to love. We all know Harry mostly spews love all over movies without thinking. I'm starting to believe he doesn't even see them just rates his review by the size of the studios gift package to him. My full review for District 9 is on http://www.coolshitinthecrosshairs.blogspot.com

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Changing The Alien Invasion Archetype--I Have Done It

    by Media Messiah

    I wrote an outline, several years ago, that changes the game on that, the standard alien invasion movie. How? I changed the archetype, by changing the standard ending of these yarns, to something audiences have never seen before...and it is startling--the secret twist. Like "District 9", it can be done on a low budget, and that is the fun of it, and how I designed it. Most writers start a script from a beginning concept, but quickly run out of steam, as it is a one trick pony. However, the secret to a great script, and story within, is always the ending. Come-up with a great climax first, and then backtrack to create the rest of the story, as I have done--creating something very unique in the process.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:19 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    I'm sure it is very, very unique. And that you've done something that no-one else can ever do. Quick question though - does anyone care?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Trek does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    So STAR TREK isn't one of Harry's faves of the year?<p> The most hyperbolic review ever written in the history of hyperbolic review writing.<p> Harry's uber enthusiasm turned up to 11 with a side order of bugnuts.<p> ...and now... 'the villain was a bit weak'... backpedal... backpedal...<p> hahahhahahhahaha. This dojo laughs at you from atop the mountain.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:36 a.m. CST

    This has better hit the mark Harry ..

    by Beniffer

    It has so much hype now .. if this thing doesn't blow me away .. I will go postal on the movie industry .. from a small town in Ontario .. ah nevermind .. it looks good and I hope it delivers on a level I haven't seen in decades. But to push it against Blade Runner .. (which version lol) is a very tall order. PS - you have a wife .. we get it

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Is there a lot of Shakey Cam?

    by BrewerFTW

    Just wondering because my fiance gets motion sickness and I really want to see this movie in the theater.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:08 a.m. CST

    This film is fucking great.

    by slappy jones

    It is a really great sci fi action film. They naysayers on here must be fucking hard to impress if this film is original or innovative enough for them compared to the steaming heaps of shit we have been served up so far this summer this film is fucking raiders of the lost ark. THIS IS A GREAT FILM. its funny, it has suspense, it has fantastic action great effects and effects that are used to serve the story not the excuse for the story.if this film isn't enough to please the guys I am reading on here who are moaning that its average then I really genuinely believe you should give up on movies. if this film isn't enough for you then you have seen too much and you are never going to be happy at the movies again. seriously get a new hobby and give it up.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:10 a.m. CST

    basically what I am saying is

    by slappy jones

    this is the type of film that made me love movies. this is why I love the cinema. i fucking loved it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:21 a.m. CST

    slappy

    by Yosh

    We all have our own ways of getting pleasure at the cinema. Having high (though admittedly subjective) standards is not the same as being a hater who is incapable of enjoying things.<br><br> We each have our own ways of getting our kicks. I'd be pretty surprised if I had fewer pleasurable cinema experiences on average than you do. I'm not saying you're wrong to love D9, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong to love CoM and find D9 enjoyable but not great.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Less shakey cam then expected. there is hardly any.

    by slappy jones

    the film looks beautiful. really nice looking film. look for me the film is almost perfect.if you want studios to make different films then we need to support films like this. it is an unusual summer "event" film. it is not your standard fare.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:26 a.m. CST

    yosh

    by slappy jones

    i fucking love CoM. Its one of my favourite films of the past ten years. I think D9 is every bit as good as it. I am amazed to read people already deciding the film is about a certain topic or has some "librul" leanings and attacking it before they have even seen it. After a summer of pretty much shit this film sits heads and shoulders above everything else. I want studios to take more risks like this film. I want them to make more films like this. one thing you cannot say is that this is standard hollywood fare. I guess that is what I trying to get at.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:36 a.m. CST

    slappy

    by Yosh

    Yeah, I totally agree with you about D9 in that respect. Even just the fact that it's a quality action film set somewhere other than the US makes it important viewing. And I also agree with you that it's way above where most other summer films are at. I just didn't personally find it to be a *great* film, and didn't think it was the equal of CoM, let alone worthy of being ranked in the same category as Blade Runner or Alien.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:53 a.m. CST

    If its as bad as Cloverfield im coming after Harry with a hatche

    by quantize

    coz that was easily one of the worst films EVER made..

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Just someone tell me its a zillion lightyears better...

    by quantize

    than Cloverfield..

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:57 a.m. CST

    CHILDREN OF MEN, Definitely, But SUNSHINE?

    by LaserPants

    CHILDREN OF MEN is a modern day classic; a brilliant, breathtaking, work of art. SUNSHINE was a serviceable rip-off of SILENT RUNNING with some 2001, SOLARIS, and ALIEN thrown in.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Harry, what did you think of the humor?

    by GravitysRainbow

    A lot of it felt like improv and turns out it was. In fact, most of the dialogue was. I can't decide if I was put off by the frequent tone change one thing I HATED was his father in law. cliche and one dimensional. I'd delve further but wouldn't want to spoil anything

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Is it better than Cats?!?!?!

    by redfist

    and will I want to see it again and again and again.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:14 a.m. CST

    This is Harry's first positive review in a long time......

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    Where you actually get the sense that he really means what he is saying.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST

    IndustryKiller!, re: Wikus (SPOILERISH)

    by YackBacker

    Well, not terribly spoilerish-- after the first 5 minutes you'll get what I'm saying about his character. The problem with Wikus is that he is almost unbelievably idiotic. When faced with a very apparent danger, which begins to manifest itself in a very extreme way, Wikus makes some pretty unbelievable small decisions that makes his later ones more convenient for the plot. But probably even to a larger, yet more superficial, degree, Copley played Wikus as a mix between Steve Carell and Luke Wilson and I gotta admit it was really fucking annoying. Copley handled some scenes very well, but he had two settings throughout the movie- douchebag and whining douchebag. It got old... and it never let up until the very end.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Solid, not amazing

    by powersofi

    Was at the NY screening and enjoyed myself. This is a well-paced, somewhat thought-provoking little movie but it is not "the first great science fiction film of the 21st century" by any stretch. It is a MESS, a very obvious first feature (many tonal and structural problems). I don't think it compares favorably to Children of Men or Sunshine (for one, both were made by directors who had done lots of work in different genres and brought those experiences to sci-fi with dazzling results). Finally, y'all are forgetting arguably the BEST sci-fi of the last ten years (for real) - Wall-E. See this movie, enjoy it, it's a great summer ride that won't insult your intelligence, but it's not a whole lot more than that.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    2009's most overrated movie already

    by interneti

    I didn't even have to watch. $30 million with amazing special effects? They cut corners somewhere. Plus, the preachy angle scares me. Movies that do that tend to fall back on it instead of making a good film. Kudos to the smart ones on here that called this film out for what it is.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Children of Men was OVERRATED

    by interneti

    The subject matter was original, but the execution was TERRIBLE. I didn't know what was going on at all in the movie. There was doublecross after doublecross and the whole thing fell apart. Only the insecure who can't think for themselves call it a great movie.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:29 a.m. CST

    media messiah

    by mynemaborat

    umm way to yank your own chain there... u did an 'outline' that 'changes the game'?? what a load of shit. an outline means nothing. its not a script, a novel, a published work... nothing. its like saying i've got a good idea for a film... every second geek around seems to think they've got some brilliant story in their head. a great work isnt made just on the idea or outline, its in the dialogue, the mood, the setting, each tiny bit of writing... an outline?! nadda... it doesnt mean shit until the entire piece is completed, published and read AND THEN ACTUALLY DOES HAVE AN IMPACT AND CHANGES THE GAME. sorry to rag on you, but shit, to claim you've written 'an outline' etc is just self important grandizing crap

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST

    interneti, I couldn't DISAGREE more with you

    by YackBacker

    CHILDREN OF MEN was hard to follow? And if great acting, a smart script and realistic character development = terrible execution for you, then... well, there's no debate to be had, sorry. I thought it was brilliant and I'm pretty secure in myself. Thanks!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST

    animal body parts

    by the new transported man

    Ugh, no thanks.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Oh, ya know how they say the human body is 75% water?

    by YackBacker

    D-9 really drives that point home, FYI.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:38 a.m. CST

    powersofi ...

    by Yosh

    Good job remembering Wall·E. It totally slipped my mind, but is definitely up there as far as 21C sci-fi goes. And definitely better than D9. And interneti -- you're entitled to your own tastes and opinions in film, but if you call me an "insecure person who can't think for myself", I might just be tempted to call you a person who is quite simply incapable of following a complex but skilfully-told plot. Children of Men made perfect sense to me. That makes me a groupthinker?<br><br>Look, you're welcome to dislike the film, but you can't insult those whose tastes differ from your own without expecting to cop some flak in return.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:39 a.m. CST

    powersofi ...

    by Yosh

    Good job remembering Wall·E. It totally slipped my mind, but is definitely up there as far as 21C sci-fi goes. And definitely better than D9.<br><br>And interneti -- you're entitled to your own tastes and opinions in film, but if you call me an "insecure person who can't think for myself", I might just be tempted to call you a person who is quite simply incapable of following a complex but skilfully-told plot. Children of Men made perfect sense to me. That makes me a groupthinker? <br><br> Look, you're welcome to dislike the film, but you can't insult those whose tastes differ from your own without expecting to cop some flak in return.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Wall-E best Sci-Fi of last 10 years?

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    What is wrong with you people? Sure Wall=E was a great animated film, but it was still a kids movie. It was not as thought Provoking as you people make it out to be. Entertaing kids movie? Yes! Brilliant Sci-Fi? Absofuckingloutly not!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST

    So it's better than GI Joe?

    by frongbak

    Sorry, just being a dick, but seriously better than Children of Men? Wow...I'm...there

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to seeing this....

    by Cervantes

    ....even though I get the feeling this could be a very OBVIOUS take on racism in general, that unfortunately seems to have ended up quite racist ITSELF! I just get this impression from some of the comments I've seen. Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to checking out the visual look of this guy's direction in this. Oh, and thankfully I missed MovieFan11's selfish post!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:20 a.m. CST

    AVATAR will wipe the floor with it

    by Bastard_In_A_Blanket

    You know that, Harry!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Who the fuck watches something 3 times in the cinema?

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Have you really got NOTHING better to do with your life? Would you sit down and watch the same DVD three times in a week? Read the same book three times in a month? No, you wouldn't. And, if you would, your life is dull incredibly empty, and you must be suffering from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Fuck off and go switch your lights off thirteen times, you sad bastards.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    HARRY

    by HoboCode

    "MOON is a wonderful film, but one that I feel prays stylistically a bit on Nostalgia for the look and feel - which were not visually as innovative as I would have preferred. BUT the acting, story and themes were incredibly satisfying."<p> Spot on. Why can't you review films with this level of accuracy, clarity, sincerity, and intelligence all the time? I mean this proves you know something about film (how could you not), but instead you resort to juvenile rantings and long, drawn out, unrelated exposition no one gives a shit about. How you can be so on target about a great little film like MOON and then slather over some of the worst shit ever concocted is mind boggling.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Children of Men was a mess

    by interneti

    I don't see how anyone can think that movie was well-made, Yosh. The party line has blinded you, friend. I actually walked out, I gave up! It was one of the worst movies I'd ever seen. Does political propaganda pass for great film making these days? Wall-E was overrated too, another movie that used politics as a crutch for a poor plot.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Wall-E

    by powersofi

    The first half of Wall-E is superb...but if you really didn't like the second half (I count myself in this camp) then District 9 is even more obvious in its commentary on contemporary society. And yes, District 9 - although implicitly a metaphor about race - is also a deeply racist movie. [SPOILER!] The portrayal of the "Nigerians" who are nothing but sub-human savages will turn your stomach if you consider yourself civilized. [/END SPOILER!] This movie is interesting and sparks a good discussion (obviously), but it doesn't even approach the brilliance of Children of Men. I would say...dampen down your expectations a bit and you'll have a good time. To digress a bit...everyone who is hating on Children of Men is completely deluded - it is VISIONARY. Best sci-fi since Blade Runner is no joke for Children of Men. I can watch that movie over and over...it makes me feel human.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Ah, now it makes sense interneti

    by YackBacker

    You appear to be sensitive to "political propaganda." Okay, now I get your take on these movies. I will not debate films with you, it doesn't seem like we approach movies with the same expectations.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    It's more believable when there are no name actors.

    by HerbWestAustin

    whenever I see Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt, I see them as them and not the character they are playing.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Just curious, why did you expect this film to be epic and grand? Everything I've seen so far leads me to believe this is more of a gritty in-your-face type story - more of a micro sci-fi film if you will.<P>That being said, I'm really looking forward to checking it out ASAP.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    interneti = Intentional contrarian

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Boring.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    The Hell with Halo ! Fallout 3 Movie !

    by paulyd30

    D - 9 is going to own all other movies this year. It will be comparable to Alien and 2001. Peter Jackson and Neill Blomkamp need to make a Fallout 3 movie. Great Game and Story.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    kidrobot71

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: "I'm glad to see that many others were under-whelmed by this film because it's a mess."<P>Where are these "many others" of which you speak?<P>Oh, and fuck your blog.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    I got suckered into watching GI Joe by AICN

    by estacado1

    But D9 is the last of the summer movies. It's a long wait until Avatar fucks my eyeballs. So, I'm there on opening day.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    I was sold on this flick long ago.

    by JDanielP

    Can NOT wait!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    I saw The Two Towers 3 times....

    by VicenzoV

    In one week.<p>On my own.<p>How sad is that, motherfucker?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Harry bitching about the budget like its important?

    by Series7

    Really? Hasn't that been proven time and time again that budget doesn't matter?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    MNG, I was responding to Harry's use of the word EPIC

    by YackBacker

    It is a good movie, but it's by no means a genre "game changer" in my opinion. It's certainly not a mess, but it's definitely not "one of the greatest scifi movies of all time" either. It has the BSG grit to it, and I'd like to see a sequel. There's potential for more development here, but as someone else noted earlier, this feels like a first effort by a director in some ways.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Harry seeing this in theaters 3 times

    by Series7

    This coming from the guy who watched There Will Be Blood 5 times the week it came out on DVD. I think there is a little exaggeration in there some where.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    CHILDREN OF MEN was fucking brilliant

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Cuaron outdid himself. CHILDREN OF MEN was so densely loaded with a great "BRAZIL" meets "1984" meets "A CLOCKWORK ORANGE" very scary, very realistic vision of the future, incredible action sequences, fully realized characters, great political message, a real sense of danger and urgency and to top it all off, it was funny! (Pull my finger!) Sometimes some of you in here remind me of how when BLADE RUNNER first came out it bombed only to be now held up as the gold standard. CHILDREN OF MEN created it's own realistic, futuristic world and filled it with interesting characters that you actually gave a shit about and kept you riveted with it's plot twists and action. COM was a movie that respected the intelligence of it's audience. I just don't get why some of you in here who profess to be cinemaphiles, particular sci-fi cinemaphiles, don't like it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    interneti...

    by thekylegassproject

    my god.<p> you have no eye for film, sir. and your ignorance is astounding.<p> but don't you worry - i'm sure transformers 3 is right around the corner so you will soon have something to enjoy.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    MOON

    by Series7

    Where was Harry's review for that movie? He's name is all over the trailer and poster for it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE

    by thekylegassproject

    who the fuck gets on a geek movie site FULL of people who do NOTHING BUT watch their favorite films in the cinemas 3 or more times and bashes them for doing just that?<p> i know reading is difficult for you but some of us LOVE reading the same book more than once...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Understood. And I guess I have been somewhat blind when it comes to such statements like "game changer" or "one of the greatest scifi movies of all time". Hyperbole gets tossed around way too easily these days; on all fronts.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    CHILDREN OF MEN is amazing.

    by Bastard_In_A_Blanket

    End of.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    ZombieHeathLedger - CoM is a cine-phile litmus test?

    by Lamerz

    You don't understand how it is possible someone doesn't like CoM? I didn't know all cine-philes were in lock step with each other on what they like and don't like. Perhaps some people have differing opinions. Geez. What I don't understand is why people take their opinions to the extreme and anyone who disagrees with them is obviously inferior in whatever subject. If you don't like CoM, obviously you must not be a sci-fi cinephile, right? What the fuck?<P>That's not to say I didn't like CoM ... I just wonder about that whole line of thinking sometimes.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Still 100 percent at rotten tomatoes

    by ImYerHuckleberry

    after 13 reviews. That's all I need to hear. I'm there as soon as I can get from work on Friday. And I ain't lookin at this anymore since there is obviously a big spoiler out there and I donwannaknow.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Going one step further ...

    by Lamerz

    ZHLs comments sound like the political extremists on the left or right who must have everyone in lock step with the party line. If you fall out of line you become the enemy and must be viciously attacked at all costs. I know this kind of zealotry (and no, not calling ZHL a zealot, I said this was a step further) has been around forever, but it seems to be more and more prevalent lately, across all kinds of topics. Movies, politics (left vs. right), tech (Apple vs. Microsoft), etc. Kinda scary.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    PS CoM owns

    by ImYerHuckleberry

    And I love that they never explain why everybody is sterile. IT'S JUST CAUSE THEY SAID SO. It's fiction. Don't tell me everything. Lemme use my feeble little imagination too. It coulda been something in the water. It coulda been a virus. That could have been an easy out to satisfy the whiners. But they had the balls to leave it ambiguous and I admire that. Personally I would like to imagine that it leaves open the possibilty of a higher power. Let's face it, the entire population suddenly becoming incapable of conception definitely has an old testement vibe to it, which is also an admirable bit of fiction!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    And i am sure Harrys opinion about the film

    by ominus

    has nothing to do at all with the fact that Peter Jackson is behind this project.not at all.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    So Dawson Trek is no longer the movie of 2009?

    by AsimovLives

    As if there it ever had a chance!<br><br>District 9, can't harly wait. It's time for some proper SF.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    But, was is as good as GI JOE?

    by -guyinthebackrow

    'Cause you loved that ugly fucker. You found it sooo much fun.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    I agree with what someone said above

    by ominus

    <p>good movies should just give the materials and the motive for the audience to think by itself. <p>?if a movie,regardless of how good it is made,is going to give a certain message,to preach in other words,i am sorry but i consider that as a drawback for the movie. <p>i understand that the director sometimes wants to just express his personal opinions about a matter,but sometimes that leads art to become a passive medium of communication and not an interactive participation between the artists work and his audience. <p>i believe D9 is going to be a very good scifi movie,but if its true that it becomes the movie itself racist because of the movies subjective portrayal of the bad guys/nigerinas whatever,then i am sorry but the movie lacks points because of it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    I hated the Transformers movies

    by interneti

    I hated Children of Men, There Will Be Blood and The Hurt Locker because they were bad. I don't base my opinions on movies on what established critics think. I call it like it is. I'm not like my stupid friend, who is afraid to make up his mind for himself.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    RE: interneti

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Good lord.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    What about The International, Harry?

    by HoboCode

    Surely that should be in your top ten for the year.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    ominus

    by AsimovLives

    God forbid blacks being villains in movies today? There is a sort of reverse racism in that. It's like when movies show all indians as noble victims with a great inate understanding and in close contact with nature. I swear, next time i watch another depiction of the indiasn that way, i'll vomit. I was the guy who jumpoed in happiness when i saw a disgnified portait of the indians in Dances With Wolves (a movie which also have villain indians, not just whites). but today, the indians in movies are this stupid cliche of nobility that cheapesn them and turns them into cartoons indead of human beings. just watch Pathfinder for a good clue of that.<br><br>Maybe if a negerian being portaited as a vilalin in a movie migth actually reflects soem reality that is happening in South Africa, as in, the nigerian mafia. Don't think that just because amovieis set in South Africa, it makes all the blacks being victims and adorable creatures without malice. South Africa is riddled wioth crime syndicates and mafias, and the nigerian mkafia is a big problem there, the same way the russian mafia is in europe and USA. Food for thoughts, friend.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    This looks great...CoM however...

    by CaptainBass

    was a lot of shite, no matter what the fanboys think. A dull snoozefest, and not even hippie Michael Caine can change that fact. I just can't understand why so many of you seem to love it. It's got Clive Owen for fuck's sake! The guy is a plank! ZZZZZZZZ x infinity.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Still 100 percent at rotten tomatoes

    by Series7

    You can't trust that fucking site. First off Fox ownes it. Secondly funny people was at 100 percent for a good while as well I think.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    interneti

    by AsimovLives

    Do you even like movies? How can anybody equate that horrible Transformers movie with truly good movies like Children of Men, There Will Be Blood and The Hurt Locker? I can't even guess what is your idea of a good movie. Good god, man!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    I'm most positive that District 9 is a good movie. However, i wouldn't trust, as yet, the 100% positive rating from Rotten Tomatoes. To paraphrase a famous phrase, it's "too soon".

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Asimov they talked about Nigerian Savages

    by ominus

    not just black people who are bad.i dont have a problem with that,a human being is going to be a monster regardless its colour. <p>but i thought that this situation about racism,was the same as the one with the videogame Resident Evil 4.where there were black bad guys too,but they were portayed as prehistoric savages,something that causes heavy reactions from antiracist organizations. <p>thats what i understood.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    The best thing to come out of South Africa was

    by Stabby

    Charlize Theron.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    100% rating

    by ImYerHuckleberry

    is gonna turn out bad!? When has that ever happened? In my experience using RT a 100% rating 3 days before release means no less than a 90% after all reviews are in. And almost all major movies above 90% get oscars nods eventually. So yeah maybe Fox owns it but c'mon they can't have that many critics on the dole.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Sequel

    by Nyllednav

    Hero is the sequel

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by AsimovLives

    There are many indiginous cultures in africa, the americas and asia/oceania where the notion that if you ate a part of the body of a defeated enemy, you would absorve their vital energy and their soul. And despiste it's gruesome nature, the fact is that was considered a great honour. If you feed on a defeated enimy coprse, it would mean you found him such a valorous oponent you want to be the same as he was, and thus, by eating his flesh or drink his blood, where the ancients though the soul resided you were in fact adding your enemy's soul to yours, and you were gaining his knoweledge and valour.<br><br>The Aztecs were particulary well know for this pratice. so much so that it was considered a great honour if an enemy was sacrificed and his flesh eaten and his blood drank. And the sens eof honour was for the defeated. It was the sacrificed enemy who felt being honour, while those who ate the flesh and drank the blood, they were the ones in shame, because they had to add up valour to themselves.<br><br>All around in ancient cultures where canibalism was practiced, eating an enemy coprse and drink his blood was considered a great honour for the enemy, and those who eat and drank considered themselves to be the repository and blood brothers of the people they ate. Adn guess, what, this pratice was once even done in ancient europe as well. Ritualistic canibalism might be one of the most ancient cultural thing that has been going on in human culture since our earlier days.<br><br>You might think that in the context of the nigerians, from their point of view, their cannibalism might not be a bad thing, but an honourable thing.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    ominus

    by AsimovLives

    I have as much problem as seeing a bllack savage being portaited as evil has i have seeing a white man nazi being portaited as evil. As in, i have no problem at all. It's one thing to be sensitive to racism, it's another to have a bad case of PC over-sensitive bullshit. PC is as much a bad case of fascism as is nazism or racism. It's all shit.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Holy fuck...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    The nigerian aspect

    by AsimovLives

    I think we might consider the fact that, given that District 9 is a south african movie, there's cultural thing sin it that,f or the eyes of a south african are imediate and obvious, but they are obscure for a foreigner. It reminds me on how so many westerners dismiss so easily some aspect of japanese and korean movies due to their ignorance of the cultural background that influences those movies. Much like the americans, all countries in their movies use cultural short-hand elements to tell their tales, for the sake of narrative economy. This creates things in those movies that, from the eyes of a westerner liek, say, an american, for them the movie has gaps of logic, plot holes or illogical bahavior from the characters. It migth look that way for an american, for example, but it's totally obvious adn logical for the native audiences from the country where the movie was made.<br><br>I suspect the thing with the nigerians in District 9 is one such case.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Charlize Theron

    by AsimovLives

    Proof that the whites coming to South Africa might not have been a bad idea after all.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    If this movie cleans-up...

    by Fireball XL-5

    ...it will be another nail in the coffin of the $20 million movie star.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    Hi, friend, how are you? I bet you must be in all kinds of high heaven with the massive positive response for this movie.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    i agree with what you say,same here.

    by ominus

    but a white nazi or a black savage is the easiest way to distinct good from evil and vice versa. <p>but the problem is that in this world,in this era,evil is easily disguised and very hard to be distinguished it. <p>take for example vietnam.americans died because they believed they were fighting for a higher caused.while in fact were deceived by their masters,and they were fighting for the capitalists to get richer.the same thing happens now with iraq,afganistan,etc <p>and thats my problem.dont show me a black savage as the bad guy.show me the rich guy,or the politician guy,or the religious guy,and so on,who just happens to be black,asian,latin or white,but wants to exploit people for hiw own personal profit or whatever reason. <p>thats the reality of our world,show me that,not the stereotypes.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Stander is a good movie from south africa

    by ominus

    its based on a true story too.and thomas jane is good in it.check it if you havent already.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Fireball XL-5

    by AsimovLives

    We all know that stars are over-payed. but what most don't know is that the top executives at the studios are even more well payed then the stars, and they can hide their earnings in the middle of legal and fiscal obfuscation then the stars. Stars are over-payed, yes, but the executives are really the ones who get the fattest slice of the cake. This is one of the reasons why studios are so desperate to make "bankable" movies that are easy sells to the public, so that they can have another gigantic fat paycheck at the end of the year. Blockbusters are the dumbified shit that for the most part they are today because of the greed of the executives with the help of their personal ass-slave boys who perpectuate their greed fashion of filmmaking, ass-slaves like Michael Bay, Brett Ratner, McG, and aICN beloved Jar Jar Abrams and his pack of no-talent "writers" Bob The Orci and The Klutzman.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    ominus

    by AsimovLives

    I agree with te stereotypes being bad things. Thing is, and this is why reality is such a bitch, that sterotypes do indeed exist in reality. There is indeed in the world such people who do fill the stereotype of a savage black or a blood thirsty nazi, and are proud of being so. You know, there's certain type of people who actually deserve to be portaited as clcihe,s because they made themselves into cliches by their own will. I'm not supporting cliches, i'm quite tired of them as you are, but the thing is, cliches do exist in reality.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    SPOILER: The D 9 aliens are behind the Nigerian e-mail scam!

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    ominus [Cont.]

    by AsimovLives

    I also love Stander, i think it's a remarkable, amazing movie. It made me a fan of Thomas Jane. I also thjink of it as a south african movie. however, our freind Southafricanguy here has a bit of an issue with that, not because he doesn't like the movie, quite the contrary, but because the movie was directed by a canadian. For that he doesn't consider is really a south african movie. i say that's a bit of nonsense fom his part. I mean, John Woo is chinese, does Mission Impossible 2 became a chinese movie just because of the director's nationality? I can't see of Stander as nothing but as a south africna movie, and that's part of it's magic and why it's so awesome.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Fireball XL-5

    You make some very good points, however I wasn't saying that stars are overpaid. I was making a prediction. Quite frankly it's none of my business what stars, or anyone else, make.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Who cares if the protagonist is unsympathetic?

    by AsimovLives

    All it matters is if the protagonist is interesting. That's the only thing that truly matters.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Fireball XL-5

    by AsimovLives

    Actually it is our business, because it's our money that fills their purses.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Asimov Lives

    by Fireball XL-5

    You always have a choice in a free market.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    INTERNETI!

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Don't tell us what you don't like. Tell us what you do like. seriously, dude.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Talkbacker with no name

    does that work for all products out there? I've always wanted to be a part of the butcher business.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    awardgiver

    by AsimovLives

    Trolling is not disagreeing with you. Trolling is disrupting a forum for satisfaction of a person whose only interest is in spreading malcontentment for his own selfish gratification. That is a very different thing then expressing an opinion, however hateful you find it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: "Trolling is disrupting a forum for satisfaction of a person whose only interest is in spreading malcontentment for his own selfish gratification."<P>Like your constant injection of rants pertaining to "Jar Jar Abrams" and "Dawson's Trek"?<P>awardgiver was referring to those spouting off hateful, racist, and/or threatening posts which are clearly deserving of the Ban Hammer.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    2009's most overrated movie is Dawson Trek, bar none

    by AsimovLives

    Even calling it shit is over-rating it. There's no way that the hype, bordering on over-hype, that District 9 is getting has no foundation in the reality of that movie. I really think District 9 will be, at the very least, an interesting effort from a filmmaker with good things to come in the near future.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    What I do like, movie wise?

    by interneti

    The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Up, The Hangover, Slumdog Millionaire, The Incredible Hulk, Tropic Thunder, Star Trek, Burn After Reading, stuff like that.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives - I disagree, Trek was great!

    by Lamerz

    JJ = WIN. Looking forward to D9, too.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    If youw ant to have a conversation with me, call me by my nick "AsimovLives". It's that or no deal. Call me by anything else, and i'll not even bother to read your post. It's this or no deal. Your call.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Hey, thekylegassproject

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    "who the fuck gets on a geek movie site FULL of people who do NOTHING BUT watch their favorite films in the cinemas 3 or more times and bashes them for doing just that?"<p>Full of people who do that? Who fucking said that this site is full of people who have nothing better to do than go to the cinema three times for the same movie? I certainly fucking didn't. The number of people who would do that are small. These are people who really have nothing else to do in the evenings, and far too much money in their wallets. At the end of the day, if you're paying to see the same story over and over again, it means that you have too much time on your hands and enjoy the act of repetition. I don't give a fuck how great it looks on the big screen. The only difference by the third time you watch a movie is that you're reciting the dialogue along with the characters now and poking the guy beside you to say 'Dude! This is where the part i told you about it coming up!'<p> "i know reading is difficult for you but some of us LOVE reading the same book more than once..."<p>You're talking to a fucking English Literature graduate, fuckwit. Reading is NOT difficult for me. I would read three (different) books a week as a child from the library whilst you were sitting in the cinema for the fifth time watching Indiana Jones. Movies have limited releases in a cinema whilst the same book can be read over a period of years. There's a difference here. Look back and you'll see that, when mentioning books, i also indicated a time limit as a means of relating it to watching the same movie in the cinema. You did not and so I assume you didn't get the point of that particular argument.<p>Besides, based upon your ignorance of capitalization (along with several other misapplications of grammar in your post), I'd say it's YOU that has trouble reading. You could argue 'Well, it's the internet - who cares about grammar?' Unfortunately, you decided to attack my grasp of the written word whilst doing so, thus giving me the ammunition to attack you back.<p>You should also take note of my next point. I used facts to make an assessment of you instead of pulling assumptions out of my anal passage. Think about this before you reply.<p>Fuckwit.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Lamerz

    by AsimovLives

    Jar Jar Abrams' Dawson Trek is fulkl of win if the actual defenition of the word win in the english language dictionary now means "as shit". Otherwise, Dawson Trek is the most obnoxious stupid retarded shitty movie made this year that is not called Transformers 2.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    good lord interneti...

    by thekylegassproject

    just say YOU DIDN'T LIKE there will be blood, children of men, and the hurt locker.<p> don't say they were bad because they just flat out WEREN'T. your horrible taste is your own business. but don't speak ill of great films because you don't know the difference.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    And yes...

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    'Dude! This is where the part i told you about it coming up!' should have read 'Dude! This is where the part i told you about is coming up!'<p>I hang my head in shame for this and would gladly correct it, if I were able.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Moon and District 9 and The Road

    by AsimovLives

    Those movies will teach those Michael Bay, McG, Zack Snyder and Jar Jar Abrams fucking amateurs what real SF movies really look like. Can't hardly wait.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    I didn't once question the look of the prawns

    by GravitysRainbow

    Woops, there I go with a derogatory term : ] Seriously, I can't remember the last time that I was so thoroughly on board with a creature onscreen. There wasn't a shot that took me out of the movie. Say what you will about me--and no, I don't think this is perfect movie, so I'm not being an apologist here.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE

    by thekylegassproject

    thought about it...<p> don't care...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    thekylegassproject

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Ha! I knew you'd fall in the face of a well-constructed argument!<p>Thanks for playing.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Lamerz

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Don't worry, you're not alone in your enjoyment of STAR TREK. Many found it to be fun and an energetic return to some beloved characters. It's just sad to see that some member(s) of AICN have decided to make it the bane of their posting existence this year while they simultaneously give advance praise and thumbs-up to movies they haven't even seen yet.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    lamerz re:cinemaphile litmus test

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    You are taking my sentiment to an absurd degree. First of all there is no official cinemaphile club for me to strip anyone's membership, there is only my opinion as it pertains to my post and I'm sorry but if you didn't like CHILDREN OF MEN, which was original, intelligent, beautifully shot with great performances,funny, thrilling action, etc., I just don't know what you are looking for in a movie. There I said it. You can go all meta on me all you like for my head scratching, but what YOU are saying is actually the extremist. After all, it's not like I'm saying if you don't like the movie I'm going to hunt you down and kill you, THAT would be extremism. And for those that don't like COM I would ask folks like Interneti, just what DO they like? There seems just no pleasing some folks.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    The Teaching movies

    by AsimovLives

    Moon will teach that Jar Jar Abrams hack how intelligent AND entertaining SF movies set in space are made.<br><br>The Road will teach that hack McG how a post-apocalypse movie looks like.<br><br>District 9 will teach that hack Zack Snyder how to make a SF movie with intelligent social comentary.<br><br>A dog will teach that hack Michael Bay how to make a movie in any genre.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    hahhah!

    by thekylegassproject

    you're really getting off on this aren't you?<p> didn't i post that like an hour ago?...<p> oh, shit. sorry. ahem.<p> Didn't I post that like an hour ago? forgot my caps...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Speaking of THE ROAD...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...did you ever see my final post on BLOOD MERIDIAN over in Capone's TB, AL?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Taking a dumb is also a very energetic experience

    by AsimovLives

    Calling Dawson Trek energetic as a way to praise it means nothing at all. Praising a movie for being fun as a compliment means nothing at all. God knows what kind of disturbing shit some people consider fun.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Children of Men - cheap overrated shit

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I thought people here didn't like shaky cam?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Taking a dump is also a very energetic experience [Correction]

    by AsimovLives

    Calling Dawson Trek energetic as a way to praise it means nothing at all. Praising a movie for being fun as a compliment means nothing at all. God knows what kind of disturbing shit some people consider fun.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    No i haven't i'm affraid. I'd love to read that, but for some reason i can't find the Ridley Scott's Brave New World talkback. And though i have a most dislike of you, i bow to your knowledge of all things McCarthy and Blood Meridian, since it's quite evident you are a big fan of the man's work, and Blood Meridian in particular (not to mention No Country For Old Man, of course).

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    People having issues with an unsympathetic protagonist.. (**SPOI

    by GravitysRainbow

    Just because you are accustomed to having a sympathetic protagonist most of the time does not mean that this movie is at fault. **SPOILERS AHEAD** Yes, he is annoying and cowardly, especially in calls to his wife ("Don't give up on me, and I won't give up on you either"). And sure, he makes some boneheaded decisions. Given the context of Wikus' situation, I'm sure you'd make some dumb moves as well. His reaction to Christopher telling him that he'll be back in three years might have been selfish, but perhaps even justified. Even if you don't buy into that, this school of thought that you absolutely need a really likable protagonist to latch onto in order to enjoy a movie is bothersome.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    INTERNETI!

    by Talkbacker with no name

    anything pre 2005?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    lamerz

    by AsimovLives

    All good movies are cinephiles litmus tests. Including Children Of Men. Specially Children Of Men.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Huh, thekylegassproject?

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    When has there been a fucking time limit on responding to posts here? I'm terribly sorry that my 'thekyleglassproject' alarm didn't sound an hour ago and cause me to come running back to the computer to defend myself?<p>Besides, I thought you just admitted that you didn't care? Why are we still talking about this? Stay down where you fell, son.<p> You're certainly no Lazarus.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    "Taking a dump is also a very energetic experience"

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Yes, we see that everytime you take a dump on TB with one of your STAR TREK rants. You should be careful you don't blow your colon out.<P>Quote: "Calling Trek energetic as a way to praise it means nothing at all. Praising a movie for being fun as a compliment means nothing at all."<P>Says who? You? Fuck off with that condescending bullshit.<P> Assimov - your initial response to STAR TREK was no where near as vehement as it is now. Your constant blathering has lead you down a tiresome and unfunny road to obsession. Please give it up.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    In fact INTERNETI! let's up the game a bit

    by Talkbacker with no name

    what's one of your favourite movies shot in black and white? I know it's hard to choose as i'm sure you have so many. Hit me with it!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE

    by thekylegassproject

    you are awesome. i almost wish i could meet you if you didn't live across the pond...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    GravitysRainbow

    by AsimovLives

    It's not just bothersome, it's also dangerous. This insistence on "sympathetic" characters is one of the major reasons why most movies are so cliched and uninteresting.<br><br>Worst, the concept of what is a sympathetic character is also very dubious. What some might think is a sympathetic character others might find to be an unsufferable asshole. Tom Cruise's character in Top Gun came to mind. This is why i defend the idea that mor ethen a character being sympathetic, it should be INTERESTING above all else.<br><br>I'm reminded of the main character played by SIR Michael Caine in Get Carter (1971). That character has not one single sympathetic trait to him, but it is an immensely interesting character, one you love to be with him all the way throughout the whole movie. Interesting characters, that's how it should be done, and leave the "sympathetic" thing for us in the audience to decide, thank you very much. This is why i have a great interest and love for the 70s movies, they weren't bothered with "sympathetic" characters, they all cared to make them interesting first and foremost. That's how you do it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    "All good movies are cinephiles litmus tests."<p>Movies are subjective. Who decides on what a 'good' movie is? Box office figures? The Oscars? The staff of AICN? You? I'm not attacking you here but that's a very dangerous statement to make.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker...

    by thekylegassproject

    i love this interneti stuff. keep it up sir. taste that bad must be reprimanded.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    I haven't read your last post. You already know why, given the content of one of my previous posts. This is last time i speak about this. Do as i say or no deal. That's how it is, no exceptions. It's either as i say or no deal. Your call.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    As much as I've grown to hate your posts here AsimovLives

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I do agree with you on the above. IN fact I personally seem drawn to movies with unsympathetic characters. Get Carter is a good example. Could also include The King of Comedy and more recently than those Buffalo 66 amongst many more...Oooo a new game!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    thekylegassproject

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    What makes you assume that you know where I live? For all you know we could live in the same place? I might have walked past the very cinema that you spend half your week in, watching the same movie over and over again?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    real SF movies should really look like Can't Hardly Wait

    by Series7

    I thought that was a teen comedy? Isn't that your problem with Star Trek?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Get Carter and The King Of Comedy are two of my favorite movies. Well done for mentioning both in your post.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    by AsimovLives

    Good movies are not that subjective. Our preferences are. I don't like Casablanca much, but i know it's a great movie. I love Tokyo Gore Police, and i dfon't think it's a particular great movie, but i can't help love it. There's a big difference between liking a movie because you think it fun and knowing it's a great movie because of it's own intrinsic qualities.<br><br>Dawson Trek is a bad movie because it fails on all levels that a movie should. District 9, i suspect, will be a good movie because it will work on all things that truly matters.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    The King Of Comedy

    by AsimovLives

    Terribly underrated movie, even today.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    RICHARD

    by thekylegassproject

    ok, here you are right. i did make a big assumption.<p> i was basing your location on the use of the word "whilst." not generally accepted over here in the states. i know because i try to use it and everyone eyeballs me. even got marked off for it in an essay i wrote in college.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    haha AsimovLives who are you trying to kid?

    by Talkbacker with no name

    You read his post, man. You read it good.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Tokyo Gore Police and Machine Girl

    by Series7

    I did not care for. I think there is something in the humor that just does not traslate well, which is something Troma always does.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by AsimovLives

    You grew to hate my posts because you haven'tread them carefully... until my latest. What you don't understadn, until now, is that all my posts are as the one you agreed with. They all came from the same source. I know you are a smart and interesting guy, always a good read here at AICN. You just have been distracted about me. I'm certain in the future we will be far more amicable. I suspect we share more things in common then you care to admit at the present.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Too much ShakyCam?

    by Token

    My wife gets motion sick easily, I don't but I've learned to despise the 'method'. Now we hear that this movie is full of shaky 'real' camera work, and it's quite likely that we're going to take a pass on this one for that exact reason. We felt thoroughly sick watching Cloverfield... Too bad...I was looking forward to this one. When will movie makers learn that this is OBNOXIOUS to many people in their audience??

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Dear AsimovLives,

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Yes. We know you hate Trek. Let it go. Go watch the DVDs of the classic show. Let it go.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    thekylegassproject

    by Series7

    I use Whilst all the time and it really does piss people off. I don't get the hate. Also if you are ever in England this thing -->. is called a full stop not a period.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives I don't think it is underrated today

    by Talkbacker with no name

    just unwatched, shown or spoken about. When it has been I've not heard a bad word said about it. Seems was one of those films ahead of it's time that just got a bit lost.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    and i agree with asimov, RICHARD

    by thekylegassproject

    there are some elements in certain films that make said films unequivocally "good."<p> my support for this conclusion is there will be blood. i don't think anyone can make the argument that daniel day-lewis' performance wasn't astonishing. and since daniel plainview IS there will be blood, the film is good for the performance alone.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    thekyleglassproject

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    I see. No worries. I sometimes use words people are unfamiliar with. I told somebody they had "erred" recently and then had to rephrase it with "Um... you made a mistake" when they gave me a blank look.<p>It saddens me sometimes that people (and I'm not referring to you here - just my fellow peers) don't have a wider vocabulary. :(<p>I blame it on not enough people reading books nowadays. :)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Asimov, what do you make of the other danger..

    by GravitysRainbow

    In which the antagonist is rooted for as oppose to the protagonist? This may be a bad example, but take Hannibal Lecter. I'd say that a large part of moviegoers don't feel sympathy for him, but they certainly feel strongly passionate about his character, thus rendering Clarice almost annoying for getting in the way of the fun that is Hannibal onscreen. Sure, the audience should determine sympathy, not just the writers, but if they are intending a clear divide between protagonist and antagonist, is it a matter of failed writing when the audience leans towards the Vaders and Lecters or is that a good thing?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by AsimovLives

    No i didn't. I didn't even skemed it, other then the energetic coment, which is oneof the things i can't help notice among the Dawson Trek fans, due to the hilalrious nature of that non-argument. I always catch that, no matter what. Other then tha,t i read nothing, nor i care to. I'm that disciplined. Besides, I know the dude pretty well by now. Unless he actually writes "AsimovLives" in a post title, there will be no breach from my stanze. That's how it is.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    i like "zed" - the brit word for the letter "z"

    by thekylegassproject

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    lockes Re; CoM shaky cam

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    I don't usually like it but Cuaron uses it tastefully and sparingly and not to the nth degree as in say, the Bourne movies. If you were going to throw out every movie with shaky cam you'd have to throw out SAVING PRIVATE RYAN and I don't think anyone here is ready to do that.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Not On The Same Level As Children Of Men

    by Loyalfromlondon

    I saw District 9 last week and plan on seeing it again. It's nothing like the ads and trailers. And I'm not entirely sure the masses with get the film. For starters, there's a pretty out there African juju witchcraft subplot that propels a lot of the story. It's the anti alien invasion film, with shadows of The Outer Limits, The Fly, and Black Hawk Down. The apartheid allegory will probably be lost on many and there isn't a lot of action in the film until the very end. But when it splatters, it splatters good. If it were a stage production, you'd need a poncho in the first few rows. But its not on the same level as Children of Men and no one should compare the two. That's not a slam against District 9 but more about how incredible Children of Men is.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Oh, he read my post alright. And he'll continue to do so even as it pains him to determine whether he will reply to something that he just can't let slide.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    GravitysRainbow

    by AsimovLives

    Hannibal lecter is a perfect example of the importance of a character being interesting above all else. In the end, he became a much more memorable and easy to remember character then anybodt else in the movie, and not because he's a good guy, but because he's fascinating. That's the thing. If one wants to create a sympathetic character, by all means, do, but make him interesting first and foremost. The sympathy thing is fir us to decide, not the filmmakers.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ahem. Well, I appreciate the sentiment regarding McCarthy; I really do. Just do a Google search on Ridley and BRAVE NEW WORLD and you'll find it easily enouogh.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    thekylegassproject

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Whilt I agree with you on "There Will Be Blood", it's not enough for me to therefore dicate to people that it's a "good" movie. As I said, movies are subjective. That's why we have so many problems on these Talkbacks. Two people go to see the same movie and bring their own expectations and movie history to it; thus the result will be a different movie for each person.<p>It's the same with all art.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Alive in Joburg

    by Coma Baby

    I saw the short this movie is based on a while ago and it was pretty great. I totally forgot about it and then read Harry bugging out about District 9 which had a different name but seemed oddly familiar. I'm sure somebody must've posted a link but Alive in Joburg is on youtube I think. I'm really looking forward to seeing the full feature. It's nice to have a film to get excited about and it's great to see Peter Jackson (who already has a lot on his plate) supporting new film makers trying to get their own projects made.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    yes RICH, but...

    by thekylegassproject

    asimov said it.<p> even if one didn't like the film, the performance makes the film a quality picture (or, good picture, as it were). inarguably.<p> speaking in musical terms (what i studied) i don't like the music of strauss all that well, but i know from analysis the quality of his work.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Zeddemore And Mynemaborat: I Have Changed The Game!!!

    by Media Messiah

    Does anyone care? No. Why??? I haven't shown my outline to anyone because--first, I don't wish to write the script. I could do it, but I'm plainly being lazy. I simply don't wish to spend the time. I went through a process where I spent about 8 to 10 months writing a script and there was a lot of emotional baggage attached to it...having to do with something personal that just touch the wind out of my sails, although the script and story are solid...and a lot of fun. And number two, it is such a nice twist, one that you have never seen before that it could easily get ripped-off--so I would never present it to anyone, unless I was within zero degrees of separation in terms of getting the material to the right people that could green-light it. And yes, I am yanking my own chain...but I am telling the truth, and yanking my own chain, at the same time. Whatever the twist is in District 9...I'm betting it can't beat mine. I'll look forward to reading the outline of Distrinct 9 when it is posted this Friday on another website, as I won't waste my time seeing it. I am certain that I will be perfectly underwhelmed by what I read, but, if it is good, or great, as the media hype is declaring, I will be fair enough to say it, and give credit, where credit is due--loudly so.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives oh I'm sure we do

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I've been here a long long time, man. All the way back to the batman and robin days. I read more than I post and being honest with you, I disagree with more of what you say than agree. But to be fair I'm sure a lot of us here would get on very well in reality. We just become righteous know it all little cunts behind a keyboard. I imagine a future where we all walk hand in hand in the land of fluffy bunnies and rainbows and all agree that none of us are right or wrong in regard to films. Lebowski appears to us as god and says "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man".

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    KNOWLES IS PROVEN LIAR, I'M DOWNLOADING THIS.....

    by CarlThorMark1978

    It’s now a proven FACT that Knowles and the other movie related websites have been bought as in evidence of their blowjob reviews for G.I. Joe, so, unless you want to feel like a complete sucker, you have two options. The first is to wait until after the weekend and if RottenTomatoes gives has it rating higher then 90% then I would suggest that it’s a good bet, so, by all means, go and see it. Option two is to download it, like I am, then if the movie is good enough then go to a theatre and pay to see it but if it’s shit then keep your money so you can help fuck over Peter Jackson who has Harry twisted around his little finger.<br> <br>Now, let me be clear, once I’ve seen it for myself I fully plan on checking it out at a theatre if it’s good because I think that it is important to support quality movies but I am no longer willing to waste my time or money on something recommended by the likes of gluttonous fat, unshaved, smelly whores like Knowles, Faraci or McWeeny who are now officially on the payroll of the studio’s and who’s word means absolute shit as they are nothing but studio shills, sucking dick for access.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Will do. Thanks for the sugestion, and the use of my nick. Appreciate it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by Talkbacker with no name

    You and Emeraldboy are my favourite nutcases here.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978 (aka CreepyThinMan)

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Remind us why you come to these movie-themed fan sites in the first place...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    CHILDREN OF MEN totally fucking rocked!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    SUNSHINE also.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Amended--Zeddemore And Mynemaborat: I Have Changed The Game!!!

    by Media Messiah

    Does anyone care? No. Why??? I haven't shown my outline to anyone because--first, I don't wish to write the script. I could do it, but I'm plainly being lazy. I simply don't wish to spend the time. I went through a process, last year, where I spent about 8 to 10 months writing a script and there was a lot of emotional baggage attached to it...having to do with something personal that just took the wind out of my sails, and in a very big way, although the script and story are solid...and a lot of fun, I just became extremely disillusioned with life. And number two, in regard to my alien invasion outline, it is such a nice twist, it really comes out of nowhere--as a real sucker punch, one that you have never seen before, to such a degree that it could easily get ripped-off--so I would never present it to anyone, unless I was within zero degrees of separation in terms of getting the material to the right people that could green-light it. And yes, I am yanking my own chain...but I am telling the truth, and yanking my own chain, at the same time. Whatever the twist is in District 9...I'm betting it can't beat mine. I'll look forward to reading the outline of District 9 when it is posted this Friday on another website, as I won't waste my time seeing it. I am certain that I will be perfectly underwhelmed by what I read, but, if it is good, or great, as the media hype is declaring, I will be fair enough to say it, and give credit, where credit is due--loudly so.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    ZHL - My point was, there is NO litmus test

    by Lamerz

    How is that extremist? I never said you were going to hunt anyone down, GEEZ. People have varying opinions. Like I said, I personally though CoM was good, but just because someone didn't like doesn't mean their movie taste is horrible, or that they are less a cinephile than you or Harry or whoever. Fuck, what if I said I was bored by Citizen Kane?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Just two choices, CarlThorMark1978?

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Damn! I was going to go to the cinema and see it for myself. Oh well there goes that idea then. <p>Why would you want to fuck over Peter Jackson? Seems like a really nice fellow.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    No so, thekyleglassproject

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    I know somebody who thinks his performance was overrated. I disagree with this but that view was formed by his perception of the performance.<p>You bring up music and so I'll give you a clearer explanation. Two men meet. One asks the other which classical music they enjoy. If the second then replies that they don't like classical music, the first man may think 'How can they NOT like classical music?' and decide that they have no musical taste. As there is no device on Earth that can ascertain whether somebody's musical taste is 'good' or 'bad', this assessment comes purely from the first man's perspective.<p>It's the same for movies. It's the same for the art hanging in a gallery.<p>As I said - movies are subjective. I refuse to look down on somebody because, as AsimovLives seems to suggest, they don't enjoy "Children Of Men". They might enjoy "2001" which i don't rate as highly as some.<p>I think "The Tempest" is one of Shakespeare's best plays. Some people prefer "Hamlet". Which of us can be proved correct?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker With No Name: Okay

    by Media Messiah

    I won't fight you my friend. I've given-up on fighting. All the worthless debates and name calling, aren't worth my time anymore.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    I just read your post regarding Blood Meridian in the Brave New World talkback, and i can't help but comend you on your very thoughful and intelligent reply. I'm sure you are right in all things about whjat you said. Again, i have to bow to your better knowledge of the book and the author.<br><br>And yes, it was a mistake to have read the last chapter before even begining to read the book, but the harm is done now. I also might have mislead youin my notion of The Judge as personification of justice, as in what we understand of it. I mean to say natural justice in the sense that the judge is like a force of nature, a force of the chaotic forces of the universe that always find their way into the lives of people who, eventually, they get to them what they have sowed in life. Seems like The Judge and Anton Chigurth in No Country For Old Men seem to be both a sort of representation of the implacable and unforgiving foces of nature that squash the lives of unimportant men who think they can rise above their station in lif,e who think they can challenge some sort of fate, if we can call it that.<br><br>Or maybe i'm just talking out of my ass and it's all over my head. You be the judge on that.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Media Mess - put up or shut up, I say ...

    by Lamerz

    "I've changed the game. I have an outline that no one has seen." Um, you haven't changed jack shit unless you get a script finished, a film produced, and the world decides the game has been changed.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Were you ever going to get around to telling me your previous two TB handles? Because, I have to say, that was a rather bizarre exchange you left me with in that thread the other week.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Oh do tell Gaius!

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I'm gobsmacked by his posts. I'm all for everyone writing and being creative, but man that's some deluded stuff right there. I love it! :)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    SUNSHINE

    by AsimovLives

    I really wish i could like that movie more. There's so much in that mvoie that just fulfills my SF needs and sense of enjoyment. Which makes the movie even more infuriating for me because of the strange and mindblowing misteps it makes. And one thing that really bothers me is a movie that intends to be a fairly realistic depiction of future spacefaring, and then fucks it up with the kind of shit one would expect from a Michael Bay movie. The over-suse of sound for the space stuff (less would certainly had been better), the strange scientific fucks up (instant freezing in space vaccum???? FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!), and fucking Freddy Krugger. Thiong is, i dfid got and understood even the point of the Freddy Krugger character, and it was great to see scientists as heroic heroes, but still, i saw in that movie a director who lost nerve on his own movie and decided to make decisions to try to guess what "appeals" to the audiences, and this betrayed the very nature and internal logic of his own movie. Sunshine is half a brillant movie, and half an infuriating one. It got this close to be a new 2001! And that is what fucking upsets me the most about it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    RICHARD GERE - subjectivity is not an option here

    by Lamerz

    Clearly, in these Talkbacks your opinion on a movie is either correct, or you are a stupid fucking idiot for not coming to the correct conclusion.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    by AsimovLives

    It's not a question of enjoyment, it's a question of ACKOWLEDGIEMENT. Music brings us a good example of this: if soembody says that Beethoeven was a bad composer, you know for sure that guy know shit. You don't even need tolove his music to know he was a genius and an extremely important musican in all of history. It's this extreme use of "subjective" thing that is pure nonsense. It reeks of self-indulgency and a frightning lack of self-awareness and rationality.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Where's The Fountain?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    A few years ago, I couldn't go on any site without people kissing it's ass. I finally saw it, and well, it sucked.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Not sure that's true, AsimovLives

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I agree the movie does take a bizzare turn in the third act, but Boyle seems to like that. 28 Dyas Later, Shallow grave, The beach, Sunshine (and i'm sure a few more I can't remember) all have someone going batshit crazy in the 3rd act. I kinda like it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Harry? Where is the Paper Heart review?

    by majorax

    you promised...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Lamerz

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    You are the extremist because you are taking what my post and equating it as reflective of the great ills of society or some ridiculous shit which imho is extreme. And I think I'm being a lot more polite than most on this board about it those with differing opinions. To me, CHILDREN OF MEN has all the boxes checked as to what we look for in great films on this site (which I've listed in numerous posts and won't repeat again) and then suddenly somebody (<cough> locks <cough>) comes along and says, "oh it's got shaky cam, it's over-rated garbage." HUH?? Or it was 'boring." Double Huh?? And I'm still waiting to hear what the alternative 'great' movie is to CHILDREN OF MEN in most recent sci-fi if CoM is as bad as they are trying to say. We are always complaining about the stoopidity of Orci and Kurtzman and their ilk on this site, well if we don't champion a kick ass intelligent movie made for adults like CHILDREN OF MEN then we deserve BAYFORMERS 20.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    The Tempest is a great Shakespeare play

    by AsimovLives

    Why would anybody in their right mind have a problem that's your favorite play of Old Bill? So what if my fave play of his is either Julius Caesar or Hamlet or Macbeth? (i really need to decide in this!). Why would i think any less of you if you prefer The Tempest? The Tempest is great, one of Old Bill's best. The point would never be that you prefer The Tempest over Hamlet, because, both are great. The problem would be is you prefered a shit play over a good one, which is not your case concerning Old Bill's. (besides did Old Bill ever made a bad play?)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    Is there any good movie you do like?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius, I COME HERE BECAUSE I LIKE TALKING ABOUT MOVIES.

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Sometimes you get good conversations about various flicks and other times it’s just fun to come here and get into flame wars. What I don’t like is being lied to by the owners and operators of these sites.<br> <br>There was never any chance that Harry wasn’t going to give a glowing review of D9 because he and Jackson go back about a decade while they both have a moronic fascination with King Kong, when Mystery of the Wax Museum (also made in 1933) is far superior and also stars Fay Wray, then there is the fact that the studio had an advance screening for the movie in Austin last week at the Alamo Drafthouse with the fucking Director and star in attendance.<br> <br>Paramount was able to buy off Knowles, among other webscum, with a free sneak preview of G.I. Joe two weeks before the movie came out. So with that in mind can we trust anything that comes out of his cocksucker? No.<br> <br>But, hey, don’t listen to me, check out the movie for yourself and if it’s as good as some people are saying then, GREAT, as I think we really need a good, low-budget, R-Rated sci-fi flick to show Hollywood that you don’t need to spend 200 million on a piece of PG-13 kiddy shit.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    RICH

    by thekylegassproject

    here's my last comment because i'm at work (hehehe). obviously, we won't change each others mind here and now. i get your summation of the argument and you know mine.<p> i just want to be clear that it is a RARE occasion for something to be inherently good or bad. i just want you to know i don't throw it around lightly. i HATE top 40 pop music. but i can still distinguish who does it good and who does it bad. justin timberlake knows what the fuck he is doing (as does beyonce). i would NEVER own their records, but i can ascertain their ability and worth (within in their field). whereas britney spears (even pre-insanity, top of her game britney) was never worth her salt.<p> anyhow, if you reply i will probably get it later. but i assume it's an "agree to disagree" situation.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Ok Talkbacker with no Name

    by interneti

    Pre-2005 movies, and movies shot in black and white: Pi, Lawrence of Arabia(does that count?), Force 10 from Navarone, Bridge on the River Kwai, Ben Hur, this great Russian movie based on "A Prisoner in the Caucasus", Requiem for a Dream, Amores Perros, Maria Full of Grace, Alien, Full Metal Jacket, shall I go on?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    The Talkback Attacks

    by Media Messiah

    I find it interesting that when I deconstructed Dollhouse, and reconstructed it in the form of a story outline...my work was never attacked...not once, and I have posted it 3 to 4 times over the last 6 months, or so, as a point of debate. However, I was never attacked for its contents. Some said it was a little too Alias for their liking...but they could not attack the core of the story...and didn't try, as it successfully corrects what is wrong with the story, and makes it linear, and the concept easy to understand. I have openly asked others to best it with their own outlines, if they can--all my critics, however, have refused, while never assailing the quality of my writing--not once. No, instead, they make personal attacks aimed at me...or my methods of delivering my ideas, but they could not find a point of entry to assail my writing in terms of structure and quality, story wise--and that is compliment enough.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Yeah

    by Series7

    I liked Sunshine a lot. Sucks though if you missed it in theaters.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    ASIMOV re: Subjectivity vs. Acknowledgment

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    well said, sir. No one expects us to all join hands and sing "Kumbya" over ANY topic (though it seemed that the death of John Hughes came pretty darn close) however, I agree with your assertion that just like there is an acknowledgment by scholars as to Beethoven's genius, similarly, we debate film merits here and I'm sorry, somebody who is saying that CHILDREN OF MEN, THERE WILL BE BLOOD, and THE HURT LOCKER (interneti) all suck are losing cinemaphile cred pretty quick, imho. Btw, interneti, I like a lot of the movies you mentioned that you liked, however NONE of those mentioned had the depth, reach and density of CoM.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by AsimovLives

    My problem with Sunshine is not that there's a turn in the plot. I evne understand the dramatic nature of that, and philosophically, i'm in complete agreement. I love to see scientists take on a religious fanatic and it's the scioentist, and not the god people who end up saving the day. That's a refreshing twist that you don't see in holylwood movies, where in those it's always the faith that saves the world. In Sunshine, reason saves the world, as it would.<br><br>The real problem, in my mind, is the execution. The final third betrays the movie. for example, why would the Freddy Krugger guy needs to go on a killing rampage. Just by being in the ship, breeding oxygen, he would achieve his intentions, to fuck up the mission. In fac,t by killing anybody, he would cause one less person to breed oxygen, adn thus, help the mission. Him being a stowaway could be sufficient, without resorting to killing. In fact, the killing would had to fall to the heroes hands, because they would need to get rid of him to complete the mission. There would be heavy drama there. the otehr crew member kileld hismelf to save the rest of the team the trouble, but this time, they would really need to put their money in their mouth and go with it to the end. That would had been much more in keeping with the mood and the notions at display in the movie. Instead, we get a slasher last part, which cheappens the movie considerably. And betrays itself.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    yes please, interneti

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Because only pi was shot in black and white out of that list. That was 1998 though so I'll give you that (just).

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Um.. an advance screening doesn't equate to being bought off

    by GravitysRainbow

    They have bashed movies they've seen in advanced screenings.. which happens frequently. You completely lost me at "fuck Peter Jackson".

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    In which case I've misunderstood you, AsimovLives

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    I originally thought you were suggesting that if somebody doesn't like "Children Of Men" then they've failed your litmus test. You, however are talking about the technical aspects of moviemaking. Therefore, you're saying somebody only fails the test if they say it was a badly made movie. If so, I agree that the evidence at hand supports the argument that such a statement is incorrect.<p>If this be the case, I gladly withdraw my attack on your post.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Fay Wray

    by AsimovLives

    Is it me, or that woman as she looks in King Kong is so super-sexy her beauty still holds even by today's standards? Man, i have to admit, othe reasons i klike the old King Kong is because of Fay Wray looks. God dammit, i can't be that wrong about her, can I?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    I'LL SING KUMBAYA OVER ALL YOUR BURNING CORPSES HAHAHAH!!!!

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Now, I will give the sign of the Devil to the computer and bang my head!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    thekylegassproject

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    You're correct. It's an "agree to disagree" situation. However, I've enjoyed this little discussion.<p>Well done to you for being the type of Talkbacker that can engage in a healthy discussion even after we got off on the wrong foot.<p>I look forward to reading more from you in these talkbacks and perhaps debating with you again on an equally interesting topic.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    by AsimovLives

    I also think there are artistic considerations in a movie liek Children Of Men that positively makes it a very good movie. That doesn't mean you have to love it, but to refuse to know and aknowledge that movie has many qualities wihich elevates it from above the average, well, that's folly. Sure, maybe one can have problems with the philosopical and psycological aspects of the movie. Maybe one would feel insulted by the negative depiction of humanity in the movie. Or that the end is a bit naive. Sure, that's OK. Nobody needs to love it. But if you claim to be am movie geek and go around saying the movie is shit and bad, that's absurd! I don't need to like Casablanca and Gone With The Wind to know they are very good and important movies. That's the movie geek in me, to know that those movies are good despiste my non-preference for them. That's the thing.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    yeah I see what you are saying, AsimovLives

    by Talkbacker with no name

    and that's a conversation you would have to have with boyle (or maybe the dvd commentray gives more insight into the reason why?). I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel what you do apon first viewing. Personally it doesn't bother me much now. I've seen it multiple times now. It's part of the movie and that's that really.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Series7 is right about Sunshine seen in theaters

    by AsimovLives

    Despiste all my grivences about that movie, that was one great movie to behold onscreen. In the big screen, that movie is just spectacular beyond belief. It has some of the best CGI ever made since CGI became proeminent in filmmaking. The production design is second to none. And there's visual moment with the use of camera placement shoots in that movie that are nothing short of amazing. Despiste all it's flaws, Sunshine is a movie to be seen in theaters.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    I agree mostly with what you say. Indeed, if someone was to say 'Children Of Men is shit', I would ask them to verify that statment. If their argument can be quantified by actual evidence beyond their own perception of the movie, I would therefore accept their view of the movie whilst expressing my own and also using actual evidence as to how my own views on the movie were formed.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978 re harry's reviews

    by Talkbacker with no name

    You do know you are at someone elses website and reading their opinion on a movie right? It's not a shopping list from your mum! "Oh what!? I hate you mum! that food you made me buy was horrible. I don't like it! I'm downloading it next time"

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    There's just no way this is going to be as good as Star Trek

    by Stabby

    Sorry, Harry.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives, today's standards?

    by Talkbacker with no name

    beautiful women are not new thing, dude hehe

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by AsimovLives

    I'm glad you brough up the audio comentary of sunshine. The DVD has two, from Boyle and the screenwriter, and from the chief scientific adviser. Contrary to my expectations,a dn though what they asay is interesting, the Boyle and the writer comentary is dryer and less informative then expected. The real revelation is the scientist comentary. The guy is interesting, articulated, funny and even though he worked on the movie and has a personal stake at it, he still can't help but call bullshit when the movie goes wrong with the science. Namely, you can even sens ehis frustration s«when he sees the instant freezing in vaccum scene in the movie. He immediatly corrects that when that scene came. Insteresting fact, he was the inspiration for Cilliam Murphy's character, inclusing his personality traits. Weirdly, the scientist even looks like Cilliam Murphy in real life, spitting images of one another.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by AsimovLives

    Of corus,e my friend, but what i mean to say is that beauty standrds hav enot been exactly the same for all ages. I mean, most beautiful women today would, in the early 20th century, considered starving skelletons. They loved their women a bit more with met to the bones back then. A beauty of those days would be considered "fat" by the standards of today. I mean, this is the times where they had to thin out Scarlet Johansson for Iron Man 2, for fuck's sake!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Stabby

    by AsimovLives

    You know what is as good as Dawson Trek? Filming a dog taking a shit. This means any movie not made by Michael Bay is automatically better then Dawson Trek.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives, CHECK OUT WRAY IN WAX MUSEUM, STUNNING, AND IN COLO

    by CarlThorMark1978

    That woman was a goddess.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    by AsimovLives

    The 5 long single take scenes in the movie alone, and specially the last one, would immediatly rank Children Of Men as a very good movie. Adn not just ebcause of the technical expertise shown in those sequence,s but the whole artistic decision to play those scenes that way, which bring an emotional impact that would never be there otherwise. Any hack wuld had cut that scene to ribbons, to make it more exciting. Only a true talented director would challenged himself and his team to make scenes that long with a single take image (many of them ar enot real single takes, but they ar perceived that way) already tells that we are in the presence of filmmakers that want to challenge filmmaking grammar while at the same time doing everything for the sake of maximum emotional impact for the betterment of the movie. That alone makes Children Of Men a very good movie. And there's so much more stuff in it that makes it a great movie.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    In that case, AsimovLives

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Fay would be today standards. there is nothing of her! But we all know skinny is so last year, girlfriend. As for Johansson. I don;t think she thinned out for the role, she just got in shape for the demanding physical side of the role I think. <p>okokok all this getting on nonsense is freaking me out a bit. Can we go back to how it was before? I'll start by calling you a fucking cunt for going so far off topic. Your turn!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    oh and

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I'm so checking out the sunshine commentaries now!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives (Regarding Star Trek)

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Whilst I share your dislike of that movie, my loathing comes directly from the poorly written script. I was wondering you acknowledge, as I do, that JJ Abrams is a fine director and certainly not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as the vile Michael Bay. Even I can see that (despite his overuse of lense flares) it was JJ Abrams that made that movie barely watchable. Under the guidance of most other directors, the terribleness of that script would have been even more apparent. I recognised that the space battle segments were terrific. It's just a shame they were wrapped around a script in which Scotty suddenly became Bugs Bunny zooming around tubes, characters would meet by unexplained chance etc.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Children of men single takes

    by Talkbacker with no name

    not this makes it any less amazing, but the last battle scene is not a single take. It's 2 long takes. There is a cut.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    AsmivLives (Regarding Children Of Men)

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Oh, I don't diaagree with you on that at all. Those long take scenes, as you call them, improved an already fine movie supported by an excellent script and some fine acting. Those scenes alone helped win it two spots on my DVD shelf.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name, DOES THAT MEAN ITS OKAY….

    by CarlThorMark1978

    For Knowles to lie to us? Hey, it’s his site and if he can live with being a studio lapdog then I wouldn’t expect anything less from a morbidly obese glutton with no self respect. I come here for the talkbacks mostly and the occasional piece of info although there’s been fuck all of that over the last few years. But I do read every review that gets posted and I just don’t like being lied to, do you?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE, THE DIRECTION AND CAST SAVED STAR TREK!!!FACT!!!..

    by CarlThorMark1978

    The script was fucking terrible though.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    I couldn't say they "saved" Star Trek but they were certainly that movie's strongest aspects.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Star Trek - better and a more involving movie

    by lockesbrokenleg

    than fucking Children of Men.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978 you really are an idiot

    by Talkbacker with no name

    you are the only one it seems that doesn't understand it's just his opinion. Lied to? haha you are way too angry. Come here your big softie. You just need a cuddle is all, babe.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Um.... huh?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg and the art of trolling

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Watch and learn. That last comment is textbook, folks.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Whatever happened to Fay Wray?

    by Stabby

    Whatever happened to Fay Wray? That delicate, satin-draped frame? As it clung to her thigh How I started to cry 'cause I wanted to be dressed just the same.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Nigerians as savages

    by Hipshot

    I have no problem with blacks of any kind are presented as evil...so long as there are balancing images. But if every representative of that group is presented as weak or evil, and all the "good" people are presented as white (which is very different from saying that all white people are good) then that can reasonably assumed to be the attitude of the filmmakers, and a valid point to criticize. As for "District 9" I can't wait to see it--but am alert that a white South African and a New Zealander's idea of "racial sensitivity" might not be my own. Doesn't make them wrong, or bad...but might affect my enjoyment of the film.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Asimov, come on you know this is just hyperbole:

    by Stabby

    You know what is as good as Dawson Trek? Filming a dog taking a shit. And I don't know why you insist on calling it "Dawson Trek" when Abrams had nothing to do with Dawson's Creek. Wouldn't "Felicity Trek" or "What About Brian Trek" be more appropriate?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker without a name you owe me an apology

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    This talkback is an accurate random sampling of an recent AICN talkback. Reading my posts here vs. lockesbrokenleg, how could you have EVER equated me with a troll of his kind, lol. Just because I made a few observations you didn't agree with in THE LOVELY BONES talkback, they were backed up with evidentiary points and hardly lockesbrokenleg-like trolling. That hurt, TBWAN, really. (not really, but you get my point.)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Stabby - Nice Rocky Horror Picture Show reference, that

    by ZombieHeathLedger

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name, THE OLD "JUST HIS OPINION" BULLSHIT TAC

    by CarlThorMark1978

    You know how long I’ve heard that fucking weak ass argument? “Oh, he’s not a ‘real’ journalist”, so who cares if he get’s preferential treatment and pweasants from the studio’s for which he then writes a glowing review of whatever piece of shit they’re trying to sucker the public into seeing, like G.I. Joe, right? I mean, Talkbacker with no name, do you place absolutely no value on the personal integrity of people who recommend something to you?<br> <br>Some people dump on Harry for stupid shit like saying “chocolate covered pussy juice” but I don’t because, like you said, it’s his site and he’s free to say anything he wants but when I come here I want reviews that are unbiased from the influence of the studio’s who, despite your assertions that Knowles isn’t a journalist, DO grease his wheels and that’s because millions of people come to this site on a daily basis because they consider it a source of information on whether or not a particular movie is good enough to spend money on.<br> <br>If Harry is happy to get free screenings, pweasants and as much shit as he can out of the studio’s the I have no problem with that just as long as he admits that he’s a paid shill and that it has influenced his reviews. But he doesn’t have to be a “real journalist” for his opinions to have, ahem, weight with the public and I think that it’s disingenuous for him to treat his readers like suckers because we DO want to read what he has to say but we don’t like being lied to.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Rickey's two cents...

    by Rickey Henderson

    It was a fresh and original movie that needed a better script and a more compelling main character. Rickey was willing to overlook the heavy handed political allegory once alien weaponry started going off. But that doesn't mean Rickey's going to take this movie as the gospel. Overall, it kind of felt like an early Danny Boyle movie. Definitely a solid first effort from an inventive director.<br> <br> Was it the second coming like others on AICN are proclaiming? No. The problem is, you people are so jaded by shitty summer popcorn fare featuring lame buzzlines, sleazy product placement, and rehashed ideas that when you get something different, you collectively shit your pants. The action was balls out terrific though. Solid gritty stuff. Never before has Rickey seen a mecha go apeshit and hurl a pig at a soldier. Rickey damn near jumped out of his seat in joy after seeing that. The movie was a mix of good and bad, but certainly enough to make Rickey curious to see what Blomkamp does next.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson, HOW DID THE HD PHOTOGRAPHY LOOK?

    by CarlThorMark1978

    I'm an advocate for digital cinema and D9 was shot on the Red One so I would like to know how it looks on the big screen?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Hell, Even Watchmen was a better movie than

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Children of Men.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    So Harry hasn't seen...

    by Sackratte

    So Harry hasn't seen Transformers 2 yet! T2 is the best SciFi movie of all time!... just kidding folks ;)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    I'm glad to see that other people have taken notice...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...that lockesbrokenleg is a Twitter-style posting troll and AICN's most useless Talkbacker.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg is awesome

    by interneti

    Thank you for thrashing Children of Men! Talkbacker with no name, that Russian movie based on "Prisoner of the Caucasus" was shot in black and white. It's called "Prisoner of the Mountains." BTW, I wasn't born in the 50's, so there's not many Black and white movies I like, sorry Grandpa.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius You piece of SHIT

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I saw you in that other thread getting wasted by AsimovLives. You cowered like a little mouse. Why don't you just admit you have lousy taste in sci fi movies?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    "be spoken of alongside such films as ALIENS, THE THING and 2001

    by GravitysRainbow

    Does anyone agree with Massawyrm's sentiment? Is it too soon to judge? I think I need a couple of more viewings before I can say that.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978 (aka CreepyThinMan)

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    From what I hear, Harry has no influence and nobody takes him seriously. Or, didn't your wheelin' and dealin' with Don Murphy teach you anything?!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    2001 is fucking better than Children of Men

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You can put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg - You ignorant slut.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    And please, show me the thread where I'm getting "wasted" by AsimovLives.<P>Quote: "Why don't you just admit you have lousy taste in sci fi movies?"<P>What are you talking about? I think you have me confused with some other Talkbacker.<P>SHOCKER.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Moon was the best film I've seen all year.

    by ganymede3010

    If District 9 can top that I'll be completely mortified.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    "lockesbrokenleg is awesome"

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    interneti, you should have your head examined.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:18 p.m. CST

    MOON? Overrated shit

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It looked like fucking Silent Running.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Blood in the Water

    by lagomorph

    When I saw someone bring up the Fountain I couldn't help but start to wonder what kind of frenzy mention of Donnie Darko might stir up here in the SciFi Talkbacks. Seriously I feel like if you didn't get emotional watching the slow motion gun fight scene in the slums, with the women singing and everyone astounded to be seeing a baby, during Children of Men that something is missing in your human component.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius, STILL DOESN'T MEAN I LIKE BEING LIED TO.

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Has lockesbrokenleg always been a cunt?

    by GetEveryone

    I remember him not being a dick at one point, but I might be wrong.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by AsimovLives

    Actaully, i counted at least 4 takes on the long final battle scene. They are very subtle, and you really need to know something of how the scene was shot and there is cuts in it to see them.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    You really don't like good movies, do you?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    FUCK ME

    by GetEveryone

    locke, you don't rate ANYTHING, man.<P>You hate film<P>Creative filmaking is your mortal enemy.<P>WHAT THE FUCK WAS WRONG WITH MOON?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Dude, what's your problem? I just don't like Children of Men. I haven't seen D9 yet, so I can't comment on it. I loved Star Trek,

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Regarding Star Trek

    by rogueleader66

    I respect my friend Asimov's opinion, and Trek is pretty much the only thing we so incredibly disagree on, otherwise we have mutual respect for each other and enjoy intense discussions on cinema.<P>That being said, no disrespect to anyone, but god enough with the discussions about Star Trek, the movie is here and gone, the opinions on it are solidified, and we are having the same discussions about the movie as we did when it came out, the same opinions are being voiced with results no different than they were before. Come on people, District fucking 9 is arriving, lets talk about that, let's not detour another TB into a Trek debate, because it is, at this place in time, totally and utterly pointless.<P>Regarding D9, I think it will kick serious ass, it will be pure Sci-Fi the likes of which we have not seen in quite some time. I love the fact that we don't know anyone in this film, I love the fact that it has a minute budget of $30 million and looks just as good if not BETTER than movies with 5 times the budget. My only fear is that if the film is a success, I don't want that success to go to Blomkamp's head, I don't want to see him given gobs of money by a studio to make a vapid sci-fi stinker, I want him to stay true to what he is and maybe, just maybe he can continue to give us what we have been lacking for so long....true Science Fiction.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Stabby

    by AsimovLives

    It's no hyperbole. I can't wait for the hype regarding Dawson Trek dies,a dn the backlash begins. and when people realise they have been had by one of the worst movie made in the last 15 years. Well, in USA and UK at least, worldwide people don't seem to take much of a shit about that miserable piece of shit.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    I have to admit upon some reflection that MOON was

    by YackBacker

    Not for me. Rockwell was superb, but the writing fell flat for me, it really did. I won't ruin it for anyone who hasn't seen it, but let's just say the interactions between the characters rang false to me. It was an aggravating experience for me.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    by AsimovLives

    No, Jar Jar Abrams is an appaling director. The only reason why he's not equal and is better then Michael Bay is the same reason why a dog directing a movie would be better then Michael Bay.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Fuck, I must really be tired...

    by YackBacker

    My last post was poorly written! But I stand by my overall point- I did not adore MOON, save for Rockwell's acting. That guy is the tits.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    its hilarious to see right wingers jumping to conclusions

    by slappy jones

    about this film before having seen it. especially as they are getting it completely and utterly WRONG.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Moon was decent

    by lockesbrokenleg

    but I had seen the clone thing done so many times before. On Trek, Star Wars, etc.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978 - How do you know you're being lied to?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Do you actually need someone else's review to convince you to go see a movie...let alone influence the way you feel about it? Do you come out of the theater shaking your fists at the sky and cursing the likes of Harry Knowles for tricking you into seeing movies?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    At least you justify what you say Yack

    by GetEveryone

    and you aren't a constant cunt.<P>That helps.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    I thought MOON was the best sci fi film in a while..

    by GravitysRainbow

    Until I saw District 9. ******SPOILERS*****************i loved the concept of the weapons not firing in human hands and the Nigerian wanting Wikus' arm. the last 40 minutes or so is just bliss. I think some people may want to disregard some of this as pure sci fi because damn near the whole thing takes place in broad daylight.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Oh well. I can't say I'm not disappointed with your opinion of JJ Abrams. Still, you have your opinions and I have mine. Maybe we'll agree on something else in the future.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Fuck. Better get out of here now MOON spoilers abound

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    I haven't seen that yet and definitely don't want to have it spoiled.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Everyone here is damn troll

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It's hard to discuss a movie that won't be out for a few more days. Why doesn't AICN put up the reviews the day the movie comes out like most other critics?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius, HOW DO I KNOW? G.I. JOE IS PROOF....

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Knowles and every other reviewer for this site gave that fucking shitty movie a full on sloppy blowjob and the reason is because they got to into a free studio sponsored screening two weeks before it premiered. It’s not just him though. McWeeny at ShitFlix, Faraci at CHUD among many others in the internet movie geek community gave this shit glowing reviews and, as I have explained in other threads, it’s because the studio catered to them while shutting out any respected critics and the reason for this was that the studio’s know that these people can be easily bought by just showing them a little preferential treatment.<br> <br>I am also pissed because I had a free ticket that I decided to use for this that piece of shit and it was only because almost every site that I read was slobbering over G.I. Joe and how much “fun” it was and how it was “just like playing with the toys” which doesn’t surprise me since most of these dickless asswipes spent most of their childhood shoving their G.I. Joe’s up their assholes before they learned how to suppress their latent homosexuality by over eating and butching up by growing beards or goatees.<br> <br>Meanwhile the rest of us feel like we’ve been fucked in the ass.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    idonotseekabanning

    by lockesbrokenleg

    just say that Citizen Kane sucks, and you'll get 100 people calling you a troll.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978 - G.I. JOE ain't proof of shit.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Sorry, but a free studio sponsored screening two weeks before the premier is not a reason. You're going to have to produce a copy of a pay stub or something to prove anything beyond what their reviews say.<P>Thankfully, I've been able to avoid any such "concerns" by deciding that a movie based on G.I. JOE was something I had no interest in seeing in the first place. Now, maybe I'm just getting old and my tastes have grown beyond cheesy comic book characters and films based on toys. Or, maybe I'm just getting better at spotting junk at the first sign of a trailer.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Distirct 9 is hardly a sci fi art house movie

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I see ads for it every ten seconds on TV. It will be in over 3,000 theaters. It's no MOON.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    This is serious. Harry seems to have proofread his review.

    by SoylentMean

    I was planning on seeing this already. This District 9 movie inspired Harry Knowles to write a cohesive, seemingly proofread review? Holy shit!<P> That, right there, indicates a level of sincerity not to be ignored. <P> This will be my first midnight showing of a film this year.<P> Because of this review.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean lives and dies by Harry's reviews

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Poor soul.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    by AsimovLives

    We were on agreement on Children Of Men, weren't we?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    Not a troll, just an idiot.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Fuck off loser. Go watch Star Trek The Motion Picture for the 1,000th time.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    Glady.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    Gladly.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    I'm with Harry, most of these recent movies are wank

    by LightninBolt

    Children of Men bored me. Star Trek is a decent but cheesy action film that completely misses the point. Sunshine is a pretty movie but completely devoid of anything original and generally doesn't work on any level. Boyle is MASSIVELY overrated<p> I think Harry's reviews are underrated by talkbackers personally. He provokes debate, has passion and writes well. I'm finally excited about District 9. That's a good thing.<p> AVATAR will rule all, I have no doubt whatsoever. It's called fucking attention to detail, intelligence, plot and imagination.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gay Ass, CHRIST YOU’RE FUCKING DUMB….

    by CarlThorMark1978

    Paramount didn’t preview the movie for mainstream critics. FACT. Two weeks before the movie premiered, reviews started showing up on AICN and CHUD among other movie related websites. FACT. The reviews on those websites were glowing over how much “fun” the movie was. FACT. The movie was eventually revealed to be a flaming piece of shit. FACT<br> <br>This is because, above all else, people like Knowles, McWeeny and Faraci fancy themselves as “serious” movie critics (while claiming not to actually be real critics when they get busted for payola and defended by morons like you who say that it’s “just their opinion”) and they love it when the studios cater to them with set visits, interviews with the cast and crews of these movies not to mention being invited to a free screening which massages their ego and makes them feel important.<br> <br>The studio’s know how easy it is to buy these people off with a little bit of access because, as you may or may not know, access is what webscum crave because it makes them feel important within the pathetic little circle jerking echo chamber of movie geeks that they surround themselves with.<br> <br>But it comes at a price and that is selling out your integrity by giving a fucking piece of shit like G.I. Joe a good review because your afraid that the studio might not throw you scraps from their table.<br> <br>Understand now dipshit or do I have to write it phonetically in crayons for it to penetrate your fucking Cro-Magnon skull you goddamn knuckle dragging retard?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    I Saw GI Joe Last Night: Here's My Review

    by Media Messiah

    I was dragged to the movie by my brother and my mom--they just wanted to get out and see a movie last night. My brother felt a wanna-be blockbuster would be okay, and being that it is somewhat of an event to see the big special effects, and what not, that we should just go and partake. I went relunctantly, as I said...and found the movie to play like "The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers" movie, but with a higher budget.<BR><BR>The film was largely miscast to annoyance. Call it stunt casting, the casting couch at work, or just casting one's friends, but it was a everywhere...and it really hurt the film??? They got the female roles just right, though, but Channing Tatum, Marlon Wayans, Denis Quaid (spelling?) and the villians, were all completely miscast. The problem with Quaid, is you could tell that he did not believe in the material and was just doing it for the paycheck. He seemed bored and unconvinced...and delivered largely a script reading, not a performance. Wayans, was just playing the type character of the funny, and loud black guy, and that is just fine, but he carried no weight. He was like Will Smith and Tyrese light, and those two are terrible...but at least, Smith does carry some weight as an actor. Channing Tatum seems to be a nice guy--that is my impression of him from his interviews...however, he is not yet a leading man, as he can barely act. He should have been given a smaller role, with only a few lines, because he can't carry a movie. If they had cast more weighty actors, they would have had a better product in the end, as those actors would have elevated the flimsy material. Even the side characters of the Joe team...and those of the villains, are roles filled with soft, to very bad, actors??? <BR><BR>Lastly, the special effects are plentiful--too much even to the point of being annoying...and they are all of varying quality, mostly low quality, BTW--reminding one of "Spy Kids" and the previously mentioned Power Rangers. The film never takes a break from the action to tell a story beyond the constant fighting, explosions, and shooting--and that throws the pacing all off. As well, the film is filled with unnecessary flashbacks, delivering the backgrounds of too many characters for reasons unknown, other than to guarantee toy sells for myriad of characters seen onscreen. I am shocked that the director of the recent "The Mummy" films...directed this mess of a movie--it is perplexing to witness him decline as a director, and not evolve? They spent a lot of money on this film, and you see the money on the screen, alright...but it is too much money spent, in all the wrong places? They should have spent the money to hire better actors, and to better polish the script, and give us better costumes and sets. Instead, like "Speed Racer", just not as bad, we got an ugly and guady looking Skittles commercial, in place of a real movie.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Thus Far, CHILDREN OF MEN Is The BEST SciFi Film of the Decade

    by LaserPants

    Since PAN'S LABYRINTH isn't SciFi. If it was? CHILDREN OF MEN would be the SECOND BEST SciFi film of the decade. <br><br>I'm still holding out for this, it looks really great. Can't wait til Friday!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey doesn't believe that the camera in the theater at the NYC screening was HD, so it was tough to get an idea of what the HD camerawork was actually like. It definitely didn't compare to the awesomeness of Michael Mann's recent stuff. D9 was certainly a well-shot movie, but because much of it was filmed documentary style, it was tough to see all the details that HD might have portrayed. The last 20 minutes of the film definitely kicked Rickey's scrotum into the floor. Big thanks to AICN for setting up the screening in NYC and sweet fancy moses, PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE IN THE FUTURE!!!<br> <br> Call Rickey nuts, but Star Trek gets his nod for best movie of the summer. It doesn't really hold up to repeat viewings, but it was definitely a solid & fun flick that made Rickey pay to see it twice.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    LaserPants JEESUZ CHRIST!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Pan's Labyrinth was terrible. It was an over hyped Tim Burton style shit fest.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Nearly Every Critic In The World Disagrees With You

    by LaserPants

    Myself included.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    LaserPants

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I don't care. Nearly every critic in the world hates Star Trek, too.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    burton style? hardly

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    cmon locke thats stretching it. pans labyrinth was a million times better than anything burtons put out in a while.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    By You I Mean Lockesbrokenleg

    by LaserPants

    Who clearly hasn't seen very many films if he sees even a remote similarity between Pan's Labyrinth and anything Tim Burton has ever done. What, because it has fairy tale elements? Really? Are you that myopic?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Uh, Actually, Lockesbrokenleg, Critics Loved Star Trek

    by LaserPants

    Are you from an alternate universe or something? Do you wanna go back?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    SUNSHINE (mild spoilers)

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    SUNSHINE was a really great sci fi film as well. I can't believe so many people think that it and CHILDREN OF MEN were slow and boring. What happened to people's attention spans? I also disagree that SUNSHINE betrays itself in the thirst act. Just because it took a turn the overall thrust remained the same. I loved some of the elements introduced, like the addiction to the un-visored sun, the ashen crew of the Icarus I, even the religious nutcase captain of the Icarus I all burned to hell from overy exposure to the observation room. The "earth room" was awesome lending a delicate beauty to the Asian crewmember's suicide with the flock of birds flying around him in silhouette. I don't have the dvd, I'd love to hear the science commentary mentioned. The only science I noticed incorrect was the effect of the vacuum of space on the human body. Maybe wiki has more...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST

    LaserPants

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Most critics weren't overwhelmed with Trek like they were with any PIXAR movie. Most gave it a pass. I see many movies a year. I don't see one or two art house films like you do. You should get out more.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST

    why does anyone take these reviews seriously?

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i have never seen a movie based on this site, i just use it to find out news about movies or to hear about movies i might not have heard about. You would have to be pretty thick to see a movie on harrys recomendation, or chuds. why would anyone go see a movie about gi joe, let alone a movie about gi joe directed by the jackass responsible for van helsing? if you wasted your money on this bullshit don't blame harry blame your own dumbass self for wasting your money/free passes on this. when im on the toilet and look down and see shit im not suprised. neither should anyone who saw gi joe and realized you had been had.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    SILENT RUNNING 2: SUNSHINE Was Great Up Until...

    by LaserPants

    it turned out there actually was some crazy loony bird sunman runnin' around killing people. RETARDED. It would have been so much better if they all just started slowly goin nuts and selfdestructed.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Harry also liked Indy 4 too

    by lockesbrokenleg

    While most people here seem to hate it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Huh?

    by LaserPants

    Are you drunk or something lockesbrokenleg? Or just really dumb? You're making absolutely no sense.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    LaserPants

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I'm just saying Trek did not get universally good reviews. It got slammed pretty good too. Longtime Trek fans basically denounce it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    i rewatched indy 4 today

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    it gets better every time i watch it, after about 15 viewings its now up to 40% below mediocre.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    CHILDREN OF MEN Action Scenes

    by LaserPants

    Are STUNNING. Breathtaking. I've watched that film at least 20 times since it came out and I'm still astonished by how brilliant the action scenes are. And it was made on a fraction of the budget most of these big actioners are. Just a brilliant, exciting, terrifying, beautiful film.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    I Dunno, Everyone I Know (Or Read) Liked STAR TREK

    by LaserPants

    I didn't love it, but I liked it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    everyone here who reads these reviews

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    should assume that harry and co have some sort of agenda or are getting paid off.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    children of men is really awesome

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    just a really well made movie. the super long take in the refugee camp is one of the best shots ive ever seen.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    baldguyfromlost'sshatteredfemur, the sand douche returns

    by SoylentMean

    "Pan's Labyrinth was terrible"-Lockesbrokenleg<P> and somehow I'm the poor soul? <P>

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Harry's Agenda

    by LaserPants

    Eatin' a tub of cookie dough ice cream, rubbin' one out on his mail order bride, gettin' those sweeeeeeet kick backs from the studio, and clumsily typing up these "reviews", or, as I like to call them, "advertorials."<br><br> This movie does look great, though.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Star Trek Is A Lousy Movie

    by Media Messiah

    Its pacing is better than GI Joe though, and it has better actors...however, Joe had much more of a sense of humor, and seemed more expansive and epic? Yes, Joe is a lousy movie, but one with a linear story, something that Star Trek is lacking. I guess that is what happens when you have a plot with so many plot-holes in it, that it becomes like swiss cheese? Where have the quality controls gone in Hollywood???

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    I don't get the rewatching films right after rewatching films

    by SoylentMean

    but sometimes you see something cool that needs to be revisited immediately. I can see a movie made for $30 million with fx that look better than movies made for five times that much money having that affect. <P> I still don't get the rewatching movies at home on a loop.<P> There's always something new to watch.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Star Trek has 99 percent on RT

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Yet most people here think it's terrible. Hmm.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    lockes just a contrarian

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    he doesn't like whatever the topic of conversation is, but will probably like it in a later talkback when people are slagging it. its kinda funny sometimes, but mostly unremarkable.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Everybody has an agenda, mine is to not get eaten

    by SoylentMean

    by leprechauns.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    the last movie i watched back to back

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    was the prestige on dvd, i didn't see it at the theater and immediately after it was over i started it again. that was a great movie.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    FUN FACT! This TB is hilarious!

    by ToMonicker

    Well, at least District 9 looks intriguing, whether or not it's the real deal, I'll judge for myself. No name actors is usually for the better for sci-fi, except when the roles are iconic, of course.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Not true at all. I don't go to the crowd that likes Children of Men but slams other movies like GI JOE. I'm not a film snob.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    agreed d9 does look like its going to be interesting

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    can't wait, im going to go to a midnight show i think.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Lockes, you would consult Rotten Tomatoes

    by SoylentMean

    I need to form an opinion. But first I need a statistic derived arbitrarily from an online survey site. <P> I also get my news from Family Feud.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr, exactly, every once in awhile...

    by SoylentMean

    but to watch movies over and over again, well shit, that cuts into my new movie watchin' time.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    you don't have to be a film snob

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    to appreciate children of men, its no high minded art film.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    COM and Sunshine and Starter Trek and Yo Joe

    by toadkillerdog

    Lets rumble! <p> COM - was a decent flick, but nothing extraordinary. It aimed to be, but it fell flat too many times. It was slow moving. It has nothing to do with attention spans, it has to do with pacing and plotting and writing. A decent film that wanted to be epic, but failed. <p> Sunshine. What a disappointment. 2/3 of an awesome movie, then, Burning man ruined the entire movie. Went completely off the rails and just pissed me off completely. <p> Star(ter) Trek. Aint gonna rehash the plot inconsistencies and oh to convenient coincidences and stupid writing. It was not a bad flick though. It entertained. It was popcorn and JJ Abrams who is not a good director. He does light weight work without a critical eye for detail or writing, and relies far too much on audience forgiveness because after all 'it is only a movie'. That works when you are aiming at a kiddie crowd, but if you want to be accepted a first rank director, and your film to be accepted for more than just a decent passing of two hours, then you had better aim much higher. <p> GI Joe. Well, it was not terrible. It actually is entertaining in a check the brain at the door, go-in-expecting-stupidity way. It does not aim to be more than what it is - a pre-teen boys fantasy, and it delivers. Loads of action, bad acting and plotting and writing and implausible scenarios. Iffy CGI at times, but overall it was entertaining. And with that type of movie you can not ask for more because it never promised to be anything but an implausible pre-teen boys fantasy come to life.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    The plot of Trek was fine

    by lockesbrokenleg

    A guy comes back from the future to wreck havoc. Gee, that's hard to figure out. But explain it to the fans who have to dissect every damn detail.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    im sure gi joe isn't the worst thing ever

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    but i still have no desire to ever see, unless its on hbo at 3 in the morning and im drunk/stoned. i certainely don't understand anyone getting angry about it not being a great movie, i don't think you could watch the trailer or be aware of the source material and think it was going to be awesome.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    I hope you are right...

    by Powerring

    That last movie I saw this year that far exceeded expectations was Star Trek. Everything else ranged from overhyped (Transformers) to dogshit (funny people). There were a few good movies, just not great ones. I felt like ST was this years summer hit for me. I hope "9" rocks and makes me interested in more science fiction. I hope it's not just a gimmick or excuse for CGI.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    does nero come back from the future?

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i thought he came from the past or an alternate timeline or something. it doesn't really matter i suppose, the end result is the same.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Well, it was kind of an accident

    by lockesbrokenleg

    In Nero's future, he was thrown back into the past, and Spock came back too, but Nero changed time by destroying shit.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST

    yawwwwwnnn Children of Men

    by MurderMostFowl

    Harry, I really hope District 9 is thought of as better than Children of Men, I am so tired of people felating that movie. <BR><BR>Yes, yes, it had a great ending.. bravo, well done. Moving, powerful... indeed. That isn't enough to save the movie from what otherwise was bland and predictably similar to "The Handmaid's tale" ( book or movie even ).<BR> I enjoyed it,but it isn't even in the top 20 best SciFi

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST

    LockesBrokenleg: Star Trek'sPlot Was Swiss Cheese

    by Media Messiah

    Spock from the future had the ability to time travel--meaning he could go fowards in time to stop, or kill Nero, or go backwards in time to stop or kill Nero...and to warn the Federation, in either case, in advance, and or to save Romulus, but he did neither??? Time travel is not new to the Star Trek universe, or the crew of the Enterprise, past, present or future, but at the end of the movie, future Spock was acting as if Vulcan or Romulus, could not be saved...and the original timeline could not be fixed??? No, that was all ignored in order to make a new Vulcan settlement elsewhere? Forget Spock's mom, and Kirk's father...and any other damage done to the timeline??? We'll just move on, like that cannot be dealt with??? <BR><BR> Now that is swiss cheese of the highest order...and let us not mention the coincidences and plot holes on ice planet Hoth (the Vulcan moon), from young Kirk being marooned there by young Spock, and winding-up in the same cave as future Spock who saves him--to future Spock failing to warn Starfleet of the attack on Vulcan...although he knew of a starbase on the planet/moon, but didn't bother to walk there until young Kirk should up, whom he did not know was coming--only for the two to later run into Scotty who was running the starbase, all by himself??? Even the plot for GI Joe made more sense, and had less plot holes, and that was terrible too.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Yes! A review! I'm so happy!

    by kafka07

    I knew this film would be amazing. But I just had to have it confirmed. I can't wait to see it. And you're so right Harry, it does need to succeed.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Nero captured Spock and sent him to the ice

    by lockesbrokenleg

    planet. Did you miss that part? Nero also had Spock's ship. Spock WATCHED his planet explode! Why did you forget that? When we saw Nero first time in the move, he had already captured, Spock, etc. That's why Spock couldn't do anything until Kirk arrived to help him.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It's clear you did not understand the Trek movie. I think you should just stick to stuff like GI JOE. The Trek movies aren't for you.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Also, Spock's ship DID NOT have the ability to

    by lockesbrokenleg

    time travel. The black hole they went through threw them back into time. NOT Spock's ship.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    CarlThorMark1978 (aka CreepyThinMan)

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I'm dumb because I don't believe an advance screening that results in a marginally favorable review amounts to selling one's soul?! Wow! How can anyone argue with your airtight investigative research! I guess Paramount conveniently forgot Harry's evisceration of TRANSFORMERS 2 (that resulted in ads being pulled from this site) just in time. Harry must have made a deal where they allowed him to trounce one in exchange for giving the other a pass, right?<P>More and more, I'm starting to understand why you've been banned from various message boards on numerous occassions. You're a borish nerd who spends way too much time on the internet trying to nail various internet personalities to the wall.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Old and tired concept...

    by Sappers Forward

    Great, same old message about war mongering humans. How many times has this story been told? I'm tired of remakes no matter how they spin it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    So... did Harry like it?

    by HB_Dad

    I can't wait to see this. I wonder if people are going to get this confused with Tim Burton's upcoming film "9"?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    MNG

    by toadkillerdog

    But he can type REALLY fast!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Great sci-fi movies of the 21st centuary.....mm

    by southafricanguy

    thats a hard one as there have nt been many good, let alone great sci-fi movies this decade imho. COM was good, but I watched it about 2 years after it came out, and I have to say I find it overrated. There is much to like about it, and its damn well made and actually has a brain, but it never felt transcendent to me. Sunshine was awsome for the first two thirds (great fx, acting, cinematography etc..) but it completely shoots itself in the foot in the last 20 min or so. Sorry, but when you start ripping off a P.w s anderson movie (event horizon), you know you ve run out of ideas...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    I think this decade has been quite short on

    by southafricanguy

    good/great sci-fi. The prequals were such dissapointments, though (and I know im going to get shit for this) I think the Matrix sequals are underrated (though very flawed). The Transformers films are just trash, and trek was fun, and entertaining, but im not sure if it qualifies as great sci-fi...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST

    OH THERE HE GOES AGAIN!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Slams Transformers, but likes Matrix Reloaded!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Yeah

    by Cobbio

    Thanks, Harry! It's great to read such an honest, excited preview for a film. As a fan of badass, dramatic, thought-provoking science fiction, I've been waiting a while for this.<p> "Children of Men" was a wonderful 2000's film that I own on Blu-ray. I've watched it three or four times and loved it each time.<p> But "District 9" looks different than this. It has aliens and alien technology. It has huge hovering ships. It has scary-looking alien violence. It shows conflict deeper than human-on-human.<p> I've managed to steer clear of spoilers, so I still know absolutely nothing about the plot.<p> Can't wait to see it this Friday.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    TKD

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Yep. It's always the ones who write these numerous and obsessive dissertations that gives one pause whenever reading this site.<P>May a pox of Pencil Jihads fall upon them!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    I'll never understand geeks

    by interneti

    One day they love a movie, one year later they hate it. If they don't understand it, like CoM or There Will Be Blood, they go to the scorecards, aka the critics, and let them make up their minds. District 9 just looks boring, I'm not wasting money and time on that shit.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    harry has eaten a cake today three times and is looking for more

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    MNG

    by toadkillerdog

    How he and Assimov do it is beyond me! I suspect nargles! <p>

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    interneti

    by toadkillerdog

    It is just the opposite. Far too often geeks are just lemmings. Some influential one's will proclaim something to be true, and voila, the lemmings fall in line. Mouths open, and brains empty. The majority need to feel a part of the 'community' and quickly agree with whatever the 'hot new thing' is. <p>Too afraid that if they show the least bit of hesitation to embrace what should be a geek-gasm movie or event, that one of two disastrous things will occur. <p> That the mainstream will no longer produce geek-fare thus depriving the geek of even the most putrid of entertainment - which is patently ridiculous. Or that they will lose their geek 'cred', like that is worth anything anyway. <p> Then you have the hipper than thou crowd who oppose anything just because the majority like it. <p> Neither is truly making a rational decision.<p> Nothing wrong with liking geek-fare if you truly do - it is all subjective any way. But doing so by knee jerk reaction, or hating it by knee jerk reaction, isan exercise in ignorance.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    TKD

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ha! Well, it certainly provides a particular form of entertainment, that's for sure. AICN's cast of colorful characters is about as varied as a 64 box of Crayolas. And some are just about as dull, too. Natch.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    to me sunshine

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    is a great movie despite the ending and human torch being in it. the burned up man killing the crew comes out of no where and kinda derails the movie but its so cool up until that point that i am willing to overlook its flaws. <p> i thought that carlmarkthor guy was a retard after his ncfom rants in some other talkback the other day but now he is beyond classification after he went and saw gi joe and then bitched about it sucking. i don't know what result he was expecting.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Is this yet another "Let's hate America!" film?

    by Immortal_Fish

    Well? Can't we be proud of anything anymore? I realize this isn't chic or trendy, but I've grown sick and tired of being told to hate everyone around me by Hollowood once I've left the theater.<P>Please, please give me a better crutch than Independence Day and Team America.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:42 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Exactly. Some of CarlThorMark's remarks were so...stupid...that I'm torn between whether he was just kidding around or he actually believed what he was saying. I'm inclined to believe the latter. After all, he IS the one who G.I. JOE.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Hey MNG....How's it hangin'?

    by DrMorbius

    Looks like you're havin' fun. Enjoy!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    immortal fish

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    this movie actually has nothing to do with america, its actually about the south africa and a multinational corporation putting aliens into concentration camps, though i find it funny that everyone assumes the evil multinational corporation is a reflection on america.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    MNG

    by toadkillerdog

    Hey how man times can we address one another by our initials? I mean how cool is that, huh? <p> Ok, I have a friend who can type that fast, he is a journalist. So I suspect that if CTM and Asi are not Nargles - and the jury is still out on that one, that they are writers of some sort, or wannabe writers.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    BTW, Children of Men...

    by Immortal_Fish

    ...that FANTASTIC one-cut scene with the ping pong ball grants the movie MAJOR leeway IMO. Masterfully executed. Sure, the rest was too angsty (deservedly) and drawn out (deservedly), but that one take was a marvel.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Immortal Fish... I think I have one

    by MurderMostFowl

    Saving Private Ryan, maybe? You're right it's tough to find America loving movies.<BR>I'm guessing it's because 50 years of movies only having the ability to take place in New York or L.A. got really old. :)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Hanging low and a little to the left. Welcome back! And yes, AICN Talkback usually equals fun. Usually. :)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    theres plenty of america loving movies,

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    they just mostly suck and star ron silver.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Oh and Immortal Fish, the ping pong ball trick

    by MurderMostFowl

    The ping pong ball trick in Southpark: The Movie was far superior, am I right? am I right?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by Immortal_Fish

    Given Hollowood's recent stream of anti-American diatribes (subjective, I know) and the incessant anti-Corp angle... do you really blame me and others like me for feeling that way?<P>I know it's essentially centered around Apartheid, but, given Hollowood... will it really be?<P>On first blush, it looks like an analog to Gaza. My opinion and I could be wrong.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl

    by Immortal_Fish

    BEYOND RIGHT!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    TKD

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Well, when it comes to AICN, I think being referenced by your initials is kind of like a rites of passage-type thing. It's kind of interesting which Talkbackers are referenced in this way.<P>It's possible those guys might be writers of some sort. Although, I tend to think they have way too much time on their hands which allows them to indulge a bit.<P>Nargles? Is that a Harry Potter reference? (Sorry, I actually looked that up...)

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by Immortal_Fish

    King wasn't a liberal.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Some of you guys just want to whine

    by toadkillerdog

    America loving movies? Iron Man anyone? Too on the Taliban, beat the fuck out of them. Saved innocent women and children. Stopped selling arms. Became an international hero - Ok maybe some Afghans hate his guts. <p> The National Treasure movies were schlock, but America loving schlock. <p>

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    immortal fish, i see your point

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    most people will be ethnocentric about it and figure its some knock on america even though the director is south african and the movie takes place south africa. <p> i am of the opinion that the large multinational corporations like the ones depicted in this movie are subverting democracy and ruining this country so i guess i would like to see more movies that show the way they are fucking us and the whole system over.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    fish,

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    fish,

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    neither was krang, i guess its a pretty silly name.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Why didn't the Aliens land in Australia?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Australia was the land of criminals.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:05 p.m. CST

    MNG

    by toadkillerdog

    Yes, Luna lovegood had her shoes stolen and she suspected Nargles. Methinks old Carl had his shoes stolen as a child as well! <p> As for being writers, well they generally have lots of time on ther hands. They could be bad journos, or bad novelists, or bad screen writers, but they only need to bang out a story or two per week, and have rest of time free to waste banging out 10,000 word posts on movie websites and hanging around the thread all day long to respond to every response!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    toad,

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    or they could be convicts whose only internet access is to this site.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    "...they could be convicts..."

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ha! Somehow, I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Marty

    by toadkillerdog

    That's very true! Oh, what cruel punishment!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    MNG and TKD

    by DrMorbius

    But what about poor DOBBY?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    a fate worse than death

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    i picture asimov

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    tied to a chair clockwork orange style forced to watch lost, alias, mission impossible 3, fringe and star trek for the rest of his sentence.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    I've not got much to say...

    by pdennett316

    but thanks to all of you for a very entertaining talkback. <p>

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Yeah, poor Dobby - Harry avert your eyes, spoiler alert

    by toadkillerdog

    Dude did not deserve the ending he got. He was heroic! Shoulda been Kreacher. But damn Rowling was blood thirsty in that last book!

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    this has been a fun tb

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    its temporarily dethroned the never ending gary oldman tb as the #1.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. DOBBY

    by DrMorbius

    We hardly knew ya.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Marty, thats just plain mean

    by toadkillerdog

    Be like CTM being forced to type Harry's reviews, wipe his ass, and push his wheelchair up a steep hill while fellating him.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    also

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    working harry's breast pump.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    we have to let the new generation have their own classics

    by slappy jones

    older people seem so quick to dismiss films as having no chance of being classic. or so quick to write everything off as lame and boring and over rated. if half you fuckers were around in the 70's i have no doubt you would all be talking about the godfather being a fucking overlong snorefest and over rated and that a new hope was a lame kiddies film with shitty dialogue. I truly District 9 has a chance to be remembered as a classic piece of sci fi. I believe that. It is what we all claim to want...a smart action film. It has spectacle without being empty. it is not heavy handed with its message it doesn't bash you over the head. Its is genuinely exciting, violent, fun and original.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    immortal fish - THE FILM HAS NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT AMERICA

    by slappy jones

    NOTHING AT ALL. people are so quick to rush to conclusions about this film and its message.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    slappy, thats the kind of talk

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    that makes me real excited to see this movie, my only worry now is that my expectations are sky high.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Just watched T4 for the 1st time...

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    and vomited a little in my mouth. Holy shit that was bad! Worst summer ever.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    After this summer, we need something good

    by SoylentMean

    we need hope to emerge from the ashes of this damnable summer

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    The only movie I saw multiple times this summer...

    by SoylentMean

    was Up. If this movie is as good as I'm hearing/reading, well then I might add it to this very short list.<P> I'm just really curious about how the FX can look so good in the trailers.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    You sat through UP more than once?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    And you didn't fall asleep?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog, HARRY'S WIFE HAS THOSE JOBS.

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    The only DVD I am buying this fall

    by lockesbrokenleg

    is Star Trek.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    lockes, I'm not sure I want to know what constitutes...

    by SoylentMean

    good for you if you didn't like Up. That is a sad, sad thing, sister.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    there lock goes again, having a hissy fit

    by southafricanguy

    he still cant get why most people with taste in sci-fi/genre film dont like Bay's Transformers movies. As flawed and dissapointing as the Matrix sequals were, i will still take them any day over Bay's crapfests thank you. At least they are nt dumber than an inbred hillbilly, and actually are about something, you know, like actual sci-fi?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    btw lock I too will be buying Trek when it

    by southafricanguy

    comes out, I agree with you that its the only Summer movie worth owning this year so far imho...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Wait, lockes likes Transformers?

    by SoylentMean

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!<P> Well, the fx are good if you could actually fuckin' see them.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Fuck you you piece of shit. Go sit through Sunshine 400 times, you pretentious bore. And SAG, fuck off too. You are on your throne again acting cool because you hate Transformers

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Eloquent as always locky, why watch Sunshine 400 times?

    by SoylentMean

    That's a little excessive. I liked the movie, but I'll only revisit it again when I have the hankering for an Event Horizon/Sunshine double feature. <P> See lockypoo, sometimes people can have adult conversations without resorting to diatribes of unprovoked vehemence. <P> You silly little weasel you.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    AICN and EW heavily endorse this

    by Sir Loin

    ...so I'm guessing there's an appearance by Tina Fey or George Clooney somewhere.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Sir Loin, EW is the devil, except for the SK column

    by SoylentMean

    the once in a blue moon Stephen King column that is. <P> Any magazine that places Tom Cruise's Lestat over Lugosi or Lee's Dracula as the better cinematic vampire is just plain old fuckin' insane. And not in a good way.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    soylent,

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i saw that travesty as well, i would place thte character of lestat over dracula, but not tom cruise's silly ass portrayal of him in interview. at least it wasn't robert patinson over lee or lugosi.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    I'll tell ya what- if AICN hosts any more screenings...

    by YackBacker

    D-9 will see a drop in its box office. All of us hardcore geeks will have seen it for free! With all due respect, I've seen it once and I'm good now! I'll catch it again on cable in a year...

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    i got event horizon on the dvr

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i think i will watch that tonite. great flick.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by Sir Loin

    Agreed, m'friend. I've been a subscriber to EW since 1992 and it's just gotten progressively worse over the years. Key word: "progressive." Every issue MUST include something about Fey and/or Clooney, and the hipster writers they emply seem to think Lestat is somehow greater than Lugosi & Lee as you mentioned. Will not be renewing said subscription.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrang i hope you enjoy it

    by slappy jones

    cos i loved the shit out of it

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST

    .Riigghhtt Lock, because hating Transformers

    by southafricanguy

    makes me cool. Actually it just means I have some taste, and actually expect something with intelligence above the average saterday morning cartoon. But you keep fighting that good fight regarding TF2. Some day you may actually convince one or two serious sc-fi fans that its good. Though probably only after they have been in a major car accident that resulted in massive brain damage. That way they can watch Tf2 in the proper manner....

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11 p.m. CST

    soylentmean....I really like the first two thirds

    by southafricanguy

    of Sunshine, pretty damn good movier up till that point, but it just derails itself so badly in the last 20 min o0r so. Dissapointing from Boyle....

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    outhafricanguy

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Dude, you talk about TF2 more than I do. AsimovLives hates Trek but he talks about it in nearly every thread.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Only talk TF2 with you dude. Because you

    by southafricanguy

    always get upset that so many hate it and use it as a reference point for how bad or not bad anything is. Again, if you like it, good for you. But you have to realize that that makes it difficult to take anything else you say very seriously, especially when you criticize films like the Matrix or Up, or whatever....Do you ever wonder why you get attacked so much on these talkbacks Lock?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST

    its because you display the taste and film

    by southafricanguy

    knowledge of a 12 year old. If you are actually 12 years old then I apologize....

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Um, dude, I could really give a shit that

    by lockesbrokenleg

    you hate TF 2. I liked it. I don't care. I am buying the DVD. You do all the attacking. It doesn't bother me because I do not care if some brainless stranger on the net attacks me.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Look, There are some shitty movies that I

    by southafricanguy

    like for various reasons, for example Waterworld. But not for one damn second am I ever going to pretend its a good movie or not get why many hate it.....

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST

    And how silly are you for attacking me for

    by lockesbrokenleg

    liking movies on a movie site?

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    It really is THAT good

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    Just got back from the Miami screening. It met my expectations and surpassed them. It's amazing how the trailers and commercials really only show you about a 1/3 of the story. It took my by surprise, and that's something that can't be said about any other summer movie. I'm sure there will be a few haters, because as with everything that people love there will be the elitist jerks who wish to be different. I already heard some asshole on the way out making a Jar-Jar Binks reference (which is completely unwarranted because there is ZERO cute kids humor in this movie), but I'm willing to bet this will be the one movie of the year that will have most positive reaction from talkbackers.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:32 p.m. CST

    locke you don't even really like transformers i bet

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I don't really like Transformers

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I only have every cartoon episode on DVD, and every comic, and autographs of most of the cast from the movie including Peter Cullen, but yeah I hate it.

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:57 p.m. CST

    holy crap

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • Aug. 11, 2009, 11:57 p.m. CST

    holy crap

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • Aug. 12, 2009, midnight CST

    CarlThorMark1978 (aka CreepyThinMan), Media Messiah, lockesbrok

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I really wanted to reply to som e of the complete madness you lot speak here, but you know what? I've said it before. It's like the sort of stuff you see written in shit on the walls of a mental asylum. I don't know where to even start. Really I don't :S

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    so really

    by maitlanr

    it's like powder?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:03 a.m. CST

    ZombieHeathLedger

    by Talkbacker with no name

    okokok I will take back the troll remark. You are right, as much of a cunt as you are, you are not on the level of the above 3 (see what I did there? I trolled the trolls).

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:03 a.m. CST

    I bet half of you here think The Onion is funny, right?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST

    you don't like the onion locke?

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    why?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg you don't like movies

    by Talkbacker with no name

    that's the point. I think you just say you do now to cut some of the backlash down a bit. We both know you still hate them with a passion really eh?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    i like the printed stories in the onion

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    but the videos or "podcasts" or whatever are stupid. some of that shit is priceless though. cmon "Alzheimers patients demand cure for pancakes" thats my favorite onion headline ever

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Um I have seen most all the movies

    by lockesbrokenleg

    mentioned in this thread. I just fucking hated Children of Men. It was slow, dull, and well, I fucking hated it.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:12 a.m. CST

    to each his own i guess locke

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:15 a.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by Talkbacker with no name

    which is one of the reasons nobody takes you seriously. Anyone who thinks Children of men is shit can not be trusted on anything ever again. That's just a fact. Thought everyone knew that rule?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:15 a.m. CST

    nothing like a talk back at AICN

    by maitlanr

    man, a lot of you knuckle-heads have exquisite taste<p>an event horizon, sunshine double feature night...<p>wow!<p>where do i point my pistol?<p>startrek is the only dvd i'm buying this year too! lol kittens are eating my stomach! I love discs! I love ears and the fact that adam yauch has cancer in his throat!<p> my balls itch.<P>but i hate bathing.<p>pan's maze was i solemnly swear a movie i saw that seemed like a few other movies i saw, POWDER not included<p>powder!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    is maitlanr's post

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    an example of ambien tripping?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Sunshine

    by CaptainBass

    Okay, so after my earlier minor rant about CHILDREN OF MEN (which I stand by, and those arrogant pricks who claim those who don't like it don't understand it need a fucking slap btw) I decided I'd finally watch SUNSHINE! Beautiful movie, but what a shit last third! I was hoping for an alien, and I got mr. forgot-the-sunblock - SHITE! I thought STAR TREK was enjoyable enough, except for the whole ejecting the warp core/black hole bit at the end which really pisses me off the more I think about it. MOON was very enjoyable, but nothing original. I still say 2001 is the most over-rated piece of shit ever made. TRANSFORMERS was fucking terrible, which made it unlikely I'll ever see the sequel. G.I JOE shall never cross my eyeballs. Just my opinion, which is as valid as any other TalkBacker's.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:22 a.m. CST

    i think alot of people who like children of men

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    understand it, just find it too slow for their tastes, for the record i think its great and am kinda surprised people don't like it. really classy sci-fi movie.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Captain Bass

    by maitlanr

    ha!<p> quit having opinions then pal, because yours fucking suck.<p> and you might as well go JOE because I'm sure you could summarize your experience in some horribly trite fashion as evidenced by your above prattle and then thump your chest about<p> i hope your fingers crinkle up and you fall mute.<p>bitch

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST

    God, Lock really is just a lost cause, Have fun

    by southafricanguy

    ensuring that everybody rips you a new one on these talkbacks, because frankly now you deserve it....Its guys like you that have led to the dumbing down of movies and ensuring that we mostly just get movies made for teens/retards as opposed to adults because you help make garbage like TF2 make a lot of money. Thanks Lock.....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Captain Bass...actually I happen to agree

    by southafricanguy

    with you about 2001, I also find it very overrated and pretensious. However, it was ground breaking at the time, and it is damn well made/directed. It would be insane to deny its influence or the skill that went into making it.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST

    And I totally agree about Sunshine, beautifully

    by southafricanguy

    designed, filmed, acted movie, but man does that third act suck....Could have been a sci-fi classic if Boyle did nt try so hard to be unconventional with the third act imho. He should have played it out more conventionally I think....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Martinluthor....a lot of people just dont have

    by southafricanguy

    much patience with movies anymore, thanks to Bay many cant handle an actual story and characterization anymore, all they expect are fast cut editing, fuckall internal logic, and a story that a 5 year old could follow....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    oh...and captainbass...do avoid gijoe, its not

    by southafricanguy

    really much better than Transformers....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:56 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Oh please, you never mention movies either. You just love to attack people who have even the SLIGHTEST different viewpoint from your own. Event Horizon is cool, but it's no Black Hole.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1 a.m. CST

    Oh GOD FORBID Transformers 2 made money

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Shit. I don't know how liking that dumbes down movies? I don't make movies. I watch them shithead.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:03 a.m. CST

    god, maitlanr's posts were funny

    by strosmer

    seriously, TBs here are always amusing, but rarely do I laugh out loud at any posts.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:05 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by lockesbrokenleg

    When Star Wars first came out THAT was a dumb movie. Most critics hated it. Now of course, it's changed the business.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    i wish that d9 was opening on weds.

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i am very excited to see this movie. <P> locke, out of curiosity, you said you have basically the entire transformers canon, where would you place the bay movies within that?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Come on. Who cares about D9 when Extract

    by strosmer

    will be fucking our eyeballs this September?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Well, I usually pick and chose my canon

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The Bey movies are separate canon from everything else. They're their own universe. I liked them better than the TF animated movie, though.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST

    extract looks alright from the trailers

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    bateman is great, seems like a good pairing with him and judge. <p> and i find mila kunis to be very attractive.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Mike Judge usually delivers some solid comedy

    by strosmer

    I'm looking forward to it. Agreed, him and Bateman should be a good pairing.<p>And Mila Kunis is what I'm talking about when I say "fucking our eyeballs." Niiccce.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST

    I never mention movies?? Uh..can you read

    by southafricanguy

    lock? Or is a lack of reading ability part of your general stupidity. I have mentioned many movies (both good and bad) that I like and dislike. Oh..and please find posts where I just attack people for their opinions. You are the one that attacks many movies all the time, but useally good/adult/intelligent movies. All thye while having hissy fits because most people on the aicn talkbacks dont like Bay's movies or that pos TF2. Sorry pal but that gives you very little credibility to then shit all over film like COM, The Matrix, etc...if you dont like them fine, thats your opinion and you are welcome to it. But then stop defending Transformers, just admit you like it, and accept why so many hate it and use it as a reference point for crappyness....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Geez, hoew fucking old are you dude? its like

    by southafricanguy

    having a conversation with a snotty teenager....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:44 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Yeah, it's like having a conversation with you!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST

    lol Lock......actually that was pretty funny.

    by southafricanguy

    fair enough, this is actually getting really childish. Lets just agree to disagree dude. We all have different tastes etc, and theres nothing wrong with that. How about we just declare a truce and go our seperate ways?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:58 a.m. CST

    im done giving you shit dude....

    by southafricanguy

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2 a.m. CST

    In a strange way I was trying to be helpful to

    by southafricanguy

    you as I saw how often you get attacked in the talkbacks, thought that if I maybe pointed out why to you it may be useful to you....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:12 a.m. CST

    LockesBrokenLeg: Star Trek Was Horrible

    by Media Messiah

    You never specifically addressed any of my points about the numerous time travel plot holes in the movie, and that speaks volumes about your lack of faith in the film. The only thing clear here, is that you didn't understand the movie, or the story, not me, the reason why you can't explain yourself out of the time travel plot holes that I detailed. If you can argue those points fluidly, I will takes my hat off to you, and give you congratulations openly, for all here...to see, but you can't...and you won't.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by Talkbacker with no name

    That's such a Samantha thing to say. <p>Southafricanguy, Give up trying to reason with the guy. He is not lecka. Just have fun with it.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:14 a.m. CST

    I mean lekker

    by Talkbacker with no name

    of course

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:16 a.m. CST

    PS: The Only Summer Movie Worth Owning Is...

    by Media Messiah

    ..."The Hangover"...the rest of the movies have been trash, including Star Dreck!!!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST

    the onion was funny for exatly 5 minutes 02 seconds on december

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST

    8, 1998. <P> and its still funnier the lockesbrokenleg's bizarre

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Cro-Magnon were intelligent hominids not too different from us

    by AsimovLives

    So were the nierdenthal.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST

    ramblings like king willy the voodoo kingpin in predator 2

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:24 a.m. CST

    ... <br> <br> <br> <br> ... <p> nice, asimovlives. nice.

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:27 a.m. CST

    "exatly" is like "old man and the" <br> <br> both are missing c

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:29 a.m. CST

    Talkbacker with no name

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    And as much as an uberdouche I think you are, I wouldn't put you on the same level as lockesbrokenleg either, lol.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:29 a.m. CST

    sharlto copely reminds me of the manager on flight of the concho

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:32 a.m. CST

    imagine if murray became an alien freedom fighter mech pilot!

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:33 a.m. CST

    or whatever happens in the movie. he pilots a mech though.

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:38 a.m. CST

    ironic_name

    by Talkbacker with no name

    that can all go in one post. Jesus it's hard enough here to read as it is, maaan!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:38 a.m. CST

    to be fair...

    by cloudrider`

    whether you like the bayformers or not, if you spend money seeing it in the theater, thus contributing to its gigantic opening weekend gross, then you are all helping the further dumbing down on movies. <p> skip the next movie bay makes. or wait and see on dvd/hbo. if you get hyped up by the marketing machine and support it in theater, you are just as much to blame. talking shit about the movie now is not going to wash away your guilt.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:47 a.m. CST

    you want hollywood to stop cramming loud dumb craps

    by cloudrider`

    then stop going to movies made by emmerich/bay/sommers/ratner/mcg/wiseman, and yes, JJ ABRAMS. they're all variations of dumb.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    I'm not saying that you're wrong about Star Trek, I'm just going to say you're an annoying putz whose comments about writing make me contemplate vomiting. <p> Just like with sex, discussing how 'great' you are makes you come across like an arrogant clod who - in reality - couldn't please anyone if he tried.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Capt. Bass- you were hoping for an ALIEN in SUNSHINE?

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Wouldn't that have made it, uhhh, ALIEN? I mean, spaceship is on a mission in space, mission gets diverted because of distress call, ALIEN eats said crew? Sounds pretty ALIEN-esque to me. <br> <br> And if there was no Burning Man at the end of SUNSHINE and they just continued to have mechanical problems, then you just have APOLLO 13. I thought the religious fanatic Burning Man third act was a great twist and it worked for me.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Not an impressive summer by any means

    by strosmer

    Wolverine - pales to what Marvel offered last summer. never liked Jackman in the role. I want short, stout, burly Wolverine. someone please restart the X-Men franchise.<p>Star Trek - Grade A popcorn flick. sure there were script problems and things i didn't like, but it was better than over half the other ST films. it was fun and I thought the cast did an admirable job.<p>Terminator 4 - talk about your blown opportunities. had one or two good action sequences, and was impressed by Yelchin's Reese, but story should have stuck closer to Cameron's original vision.<p>Up - literally dozed off, but saw it in vegas after being up late the night before. even after a second viewing, i doubt i'll be that impressed by it. Wall-E was not that good either. frankly, i think Brad Bird is the only good feature animation director working now.<p>The Hangover - it was funny. no complaints really. just what i like to see from a comedy. and not obnoxiously long either. apatow, please take notes - no comedy should ever hit the 2 hr mark, let alone the 2 1/2 hr mark!<p>Bruno - it made me laugh a lot. admire Cohen's bravery, but simply was not as inspired as Borat. granted, he had a much more difficult time getting interviews and good footage for this one.<p>TF2 - after seeing The Hangover, I theater-hopped to see this, figuring if i didn't pay to see it, what could it hurt? well, it hurt. hurt real bad. in fact, despite the free entry, i still paid a price - with my soul. i did laugh at the "scrotum" line, but damn you michael bay - DAMN YOU!<p>Public Enemies - got to see Michael Mann in person at the Chicago AICN screening, which was very cool. movie itself felt pretty flat though. may give it another go on dvd. i generally like Mann's work.<p>That's been it for me this summer. Unemployed and broke most of the time, otherwise, I'd have fit in Hurt Locker and Moon as well by now. Don't give a shit about Harry Potter. Looking forward to District 9 and Inglorious Basterds. Was considering theater-hopping to G.I.Joe, but after that TF2 experience, not sure if I want to go there again. It was fun to theater-hop though. Hadn't done that in ages.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:04 a.m. CST

    lockes, I'm genuinely interested to know...

    by GetEveryone

    what are your ten favourite films? Since you spew vitriol over mostly everything anyone mentions.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:22 a.m. CST

    I saw another clip, looks interesting

    by interneti

    But I really, REALLY don't want to be let down if it sucks. I'm sick of being suckered into seeing pretentious movies that are overhyped by critics and geeks.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Harry was given free donuts at the set of District 9

    by Jerkmeister

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:36 a.m. CST

    Mr. Zeddemore: Or Maybe...I'm A Great Lover???

    by Media Messiah

    Sometimes, those who brag, are the best.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:41 a.m. CST

    It'll be great for sure, but...

    by SeXX ED

    ... is it "FUN?" You know, "G.I. JOE" style fun! Does it "recapture your childhood when you used to bang action figures together" in movie form? Hate to beat a dead horse here, but you CANNOT possibly expect clemency so soon for your studio-funded Jihad against integrity, last week. How was BARBADOS?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:45 a.m. CST

    2009 a year of mehh movies

    by TheManWhoCan

    Star Trek, Not Perfect, but thoroughly enjoyable sci-fi fun that was worth price of admission lazy plot hole and screeching Scotty and all! - Terminator 4, streamed of the internet while getting high, terrible movie, just terrible! - Up , havn’t seen it yet because Pixar thought it would be a good idea to release this in Europe 5 or 6 months after its US release which means I will be available to download a DVD rip during the cinema release so guess what ill be doing! - The Hangover, good , but not as good as what its hyped up to be, after seeing this I have decided to never see a comedy in the cinema ever again, as its more fun watching them at home with a load of friends around, (also you can smoke and drink). - - Bruno, hyped just like borat and not worth the price of admission for its only 5 minutes long, funny but not funny enough to justify paying for. The Ali-G show had more sophisticated jokes with the bruno and borat characters.I downloaded a copy and am glad I did! - - TF2 streamed of a Chinese site grainy cam and all just like the first one, no regrets and the satisfaction that I didn’t pay a penny to the Bay foundation-for-people-who-have –trouble-making-movies-good-and-want-to-do-other-stuff-good-too. Probably a good movie if your 10 or have down syndrome! - - Public Enemies huge disappointment with shitty shaky cam digital shit,shit cheap shit no point to any of it, don’t want to think about it any more. - - Hurt Locker Forgot this was out looks good, will go see! - Moon ‘ loved the retro feel and good acting , highly recommended ,I’d urge anyone to see this! - Harry Potter. Couldn’t get through the first one because of the shit acting and meandering plot, the kids still cant act so I wont ever watch the speccy little fucker. - District 9 . looking forward to , but Harrys rave review puts a chill down my spine. - Inglorious Basterds. Smug Pitt ,(whats with the eyebrows?) no thanks! - G.I.Joe, Probably DL a when a good copy show up, might be watchable , don’t really care either way. Over all a pretty shitty year in movies, mostly crap after crap, the type of year that would put an end to some people’s enthusiasm for movies in general. Cant wait to get out of 2009.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Harry went to Barbados?

    by interneti

    Why? I was born there.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Interneti- then fucking don't go see it then

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Who do you think is begging you to go? No one here. And I'm sure it's box office success won't miss your ten bucks one bit. Get over yourself, dude.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:56 a.m. CST

    ZombieHeathLedger

    by interneti

    Get over YOURSELF.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:05 a.m. CST

    INTERNETI

    by SeXX ED

    Alls ahm sayin is whilst I was in a theater at midnight last Thursday subjecting myself to G.I. JOE (at the suggestion of Mr. Knowles and Devin "Anti-Avatar" Faraci amongst others) the airliner carrying the bulk of Paramount's puchased geek-website "journalists" was probably just lifting off of the runway, destination: a weekend of fun in the sun- Stephen Sommers style. G.I. JOE made TRANSFORMERS 2 look like the fucking DEER HUNTER, man.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:17 a.m. CST

    talkbackerwithnoname......thanks dude, he is

    by southafricanguy

    quite a lost cause, but i was trying to be civil. My mistake I guess. How do you know about Lekker?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:23 a.m. CST

    stosmer......I agree with your assessment

    by southafricanguy

    good sir, that was all well put. Personally there is just D9, Avatar, 9, and sherlock Holmes for me to save this year....

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Sexxed......yeah, dont you just love how

    by southafricanguy

    that fuckface gimp Farci gives T4 four stars for his empire review, and 8.5!! for gijoe, yet he has already made up his mind that Avatar will suck because of his beef with fox. He is such a sell-out hack with an agenda. But then again he thinks TDK is overrated and he gushes over Harry Potter more than a Japanese school girl. So I for one hope he really hates Avatar, because then I know it will be awsome......

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST

    zombieheath....great name btw....I did nt have

    by southafricanguy

    a problem with the concept of a deranged killer, and I agree with you that there should have been no alien, but the last act was handled so badly dude, it was too similar to event horizon (and as I have said if you start ripping off a Paul ws Anderson movie, you have seriously ru out of ideas imho), and it was filmed in such an annoying manner...

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7 a.m. CST

    Y'all wanna see a GOOD movie?

    by ImYerHuckleberry

    On a lark I checked out 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea from the library to watch with my 6 year old daughter. I liked it as a kid and thought it would be a fun time but DAMN. That is a GREAT movie. It was a lot deeper than I remember, probly cause I just didn't get all the philisophical stuff back then. Anyway, check it out before somebody decides to remake it into a crapfest.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Event Horizon/Sunshine Double Feature

    by SoylentMean

    Both movies are fun, if decidedly flawed, films. Both have similar settings. Hence a double feature.<P> If I demanded logic or flawless continuity from all of the movies I watched, in order to enjoy them, well my list of enjoyed films would be very small indeed.<P> When I sit down to watch a movie I expect just one thing, to be entertained. Anything else beyond the immediate enjoyment of a film is usually gleaned in reflection.<P> My initial reaction to a film versus how much I think about it afterward is usually how I determine the quality of a film. <P> Is this a terribly hard concept?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST

    I've been waiting months for this movie.

    by fireclown

    This one snuck up on me when I saw the "target" one sheet. The thing just FEELS right. I'm trying to keep expectations reasonable, so as to not be too disappointed. <p> Thanks for THAT, Harry ;) I've also kept pretty spoiler free. I managed to avoid the ones above, but can admins label spoilers in the headline?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:38 a.m. CST

    ..so Harry why do you think D-9 is the best movie so far in 2009

    by TheManWhoCan

    Harry: "lets just say it moved me......... TO A BIGGER HOUSE!" "AW shit i said the quiet part loud"

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Everyone else is ignoring you. Henceforth, I will follow suit. Good day... but not good luck. Luck implies that you'd succeed if someone asked for a well-written piece.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Harry

    by Semen Stains

    What,Moon isnt on your list of best films this year? for shame big guy,for shame.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    ZombieHeathLedger vs. interneti

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ZombieHeathLedger: "Get over yourself, dude."<P>interneti: "Get over YOURSELF."<P>LOL. Classic.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    THIS FILM ROCKED!!!!

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    I WAS AT THE MIAMI SCREENING LAST NIGHT.....FUCK ME, THIS FILM IS GOOD. GOOD ON SO MANY LEVELS, ITS NUTS.THE BEST FILM OF 2009 BAR NONE.THE ABOSLUTE BEST.IF YOU HAVN'T SEEN IT-SHUT THE FUCK UP AND WATCH IT.IT'S FUNNY, ITS MOVING,ITS ACTION PACKED,ITS COMPLETELY UN-HOLLYWOOD, WITH THE MOST UNUSUAL MOVIE BEATS(WHICH WAS SATISFYING!!!)...AND I AM THERE FOR DISTRICT 10!!!! NEIL ADN THE ACTOR ARE CLASS ACTS, AND SO IS AINTITCOOL for doing this in Miami(I hope for many more)-AND OZY WAS A DAMN COOL DUDE!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    SUNSHINE?

    by dnix

    SUNSHINE? Really...REEEAAAALLLLYYYY? Some nice imagery in that film, but as a movie it was a box of ass. Making little sense, or not being able to convey the sense of your story, does not make a movie deep or good.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I'm from london. Hard not to know about lekker :) Hope it's used in D9! "Oh mate. Those aliens are lekker!"

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius it's just like

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Godzilla and Kong going toe to toe eh?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    if godzilla and king kong were assholes

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    dnix, you have a problem with ass in a box do you?

    by SoylentMean

    Personally I'm more troubled by those nefarious Jack in the Boxes, the toys and the fast food chains. Fear and Botulism, in equal measure.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    MOON

    by Cockpoop

    For my first post, I would first like to establish how pumped I am for this movie. Secondly I would like to once and for all squash any notion that Moon was a fantastic film. I thought it was incredibly boring, and wasted its potential. The first half was good. Second half was baaad.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Non spoiler, mini review from LA screening...

    by v1

    I figured this would become the defacto home talkback about D-9, so I decided to throw my thoughts on the film in this talkback as well as the LA screening talkback.......... Thanks for the screening of this effin great film. My thoughts were provoked, my sensibilities were revolted, my teeth were clenched and my ass was on the edge of my seat! Is this the messiah of sci fi films? I think not. Is it perfect, again, I think not. Some plot holes and a second act that falls prey to the action hero complex keep it from being a truly upper echelon film. However, I think Neil dug deep and swung for the fence, and he hit a SOLID home run, just not quite a grand slam. But a first time feature length director hitting the sweet spot with a sci fi / action film on a $30 million budget is an AMAZING feat. If I was Spielberg, I’d have two names on my short list for directing Halo, Neil (there is do doubt after seeing D-9 why Peter Jackson selected Neil in his ill fated Halo try) or Carl Erik Rinsch (whom Ridley Scott had in mind to help the upcoming Alien prequel, check out his commercial’s here… http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/ 05/27/the-commercials-of-carl- erik-rinsch/ ). Come on Steve, don’t let anyone else touch Halo, for the love of GOD! And, I would be remiss not to mention Sharlto Copley, who’s OUTSTANDING performance took what could have been a good, fun sci fi film and turned it into a riveting, great sci fi film. Go see it. It’s not perfect, but it’s head and shoulders above the normal sci fi stuff hitting the screens as of late.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    V1

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    I think it was pretty perfect.Not one thing I would change.Not bashing you though, i like your opnions on the directors for HALO-and goddamn SHARLOT COPLEY was great,he elevated the damn film.Near the end, when he tells Christopher(?) the alien some stuff(trying to avoid SPOILERS)-that was some serious ACTING!!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Well allow me to retort...

    by v1

    I must say I wouldn't change a whole lot. I loved the first act and the third act kicked absolute ass, but I felt the second act had a couple rough patches. As with your attempt to avoid spoilers it's hard to point out specifics, but I feel comfortable saying that some of the events that happened seemed to be a tad TOO easy. They erred on the side of action flick conventions that I would expect from the Die Hard franchise. To me it just felt like those small shortcomings (but shortcomings non the less) prevented the film from hitting the perfect pitch the entire way through. That being said, the vast majority of the film did it for me. And the more I think about it, the more I want to see it again. Besides, I got the free screening from here, now I need to pay for it to support one of the best original sci fi movies in years. Now I’ve got to get all my friends to come out and see it with me as well!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    As for Copley's acting...

    by v1

    There were scenes in the movie that had me flat out squirming. Of course the situations, in and of themselves, had me feeling uncomfortable in my skin, but it was Copley’s flawless performance during those situations that sold them!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    For people who use baseball metaphors to describe a movie

    by AsimovLives

    Nobody outside the USA (except Mexico and Japan) understands what you are saying. Give us a break, will you?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    talkbacker with no name / krang = shitstains.

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Some men you just can't reach. You two just aren't worth reaching.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    I share with you a bit of the same opinion about Sunshine. there's much in that movie i really like, which makes me feel even more upset by the fuck ups the movie comits, specially toward the ending, and most specially the last part. I really don't have a problem with a killer by the end of the movie,a nd i do think it does tie with the rest of the movie, specially considering that the killer is a religious fanatic, which is quite fitting. But it's the execution that really irritates and disapoints me. to have a movie whihc, despiste some dumb concessions to comemrcialism, had so far been pretty cerebral and thoughful, and inthe last act to descent intoa repetition of Event Horizont with a Freddy Krugger wannabe running aropund, that shit is disapointing beyond believe. I can't even believe the movie went that route. It's a betrayal of what went before. It's as if Danny Boyle hasd lost all the strenght of his convictions and decided to play safe. Most disapointing.<br<br>However, if you are thinking in renting the movie's DVD, i cna't urge you enough to check out the audio comentary by the movie's scientific adviser Brian Cox. No, it's not Brian Cox the scotish actor, it's a younger guy, an english physicist. The guy is most informative and entertaining, and if people fear his comentary is a long science lecture, in fact he spends half the comentary speaking about the movie itself and the plot and action and the characters and his involvement in the movie. Mostly, it's fun to hear him talk on how the character of Cilliam Murphy was based on him,, to the poitn of even Murphy having his hair style. In fact, Murphy is almost a dead ringer for Brian Cox. Of cours,e Cox does still talk about the scienc ein the movie, and he's quite forgiving when the movie decides to go on artistic libertie,s which Cox is pretty col about. except on some ocasions which it's fun to notice there's thing that he does find grating and test his pacience, like the scene where there is instant frezzing by an astronaut when exposed to the vaccum of space in the shadow. It's funny to see the exasperation in his voice, evne if he tries to keep civil and and non judgemental. Check it out.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    v1

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    brav-fucking-o! I like your writing sir! I look forward to seeing more of your reviews.I got the screennig too,it was a fun event.I hope Neil and Copley go very far-they seem as un-jaded as they come so far!Hope hollywood bends over after Fox fucked him.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    asimov,

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    you forgot the dominican republic and venezuela, i live in detroit and i think are whole team is either venezuelan or dominican. <P> and zombie, i was just foolin around i agree with you most of the time. just having a laugh. "get over yourself"

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by AsimovLives

    And Puerto Rico too, right?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    oh yeah i forgot about those p.r's

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    baseball is pretty much a latin game now it seems to me. i don't follow it but all the players are coming from over seas now. like basketball.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives (ref baseball terms)

    by v1

    AsminovLives is quite right, that I used a few baseball terms in my mini review, and I may need to convert those terms into regular terms for a few of the AICN regulars… 1) Home Run… A home run (or homer) is a base hit in which the batter is able to circle all the bases, ending at home plate and scoring a run himself. 2)Swung for the fence… Try to hit a home run. 3)Grand Slam - Home run hit with the bases loaded. Please go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L ist_of_baseball_jargon if you need further clarification! (Sorry, couldn’t resist the temptation, there were some “special” folks in line yesterday!).

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by AsimovLives

    That sound slike football to me, when foreign fill complete temas form one country. And by football, i really mean the game that really deserves to be called football, and which for some extremely byzarre and uncompreensible reason americans call soccer to distiguish form a game they call football and which they don't use the feet to play!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    v1

    by AsimovLives

    Trust me, from a foreigner perspective, like say an european, baseball is a complete mystery, even with the explanations.<br><br>So, basically, what you wanted to say was that the movie is good from begining to end, is that right?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    ...

    by v1

    AsimovLives, please tell me you saw the baseball terms joke post I made in the LA screening and you couldn't help but make a joke playing off of that! When I posted that review I couldn't help myself from making the follow up post. When I threw the review on this Talkback I thought it would be pretentious of me to bring the joke over as well. Then you set it up for me and I, of course, had to knock it down. Thanks!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    the fucking movie was a GRAND SLAM

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    SLAM DUNK, WINNING HIT,ALLEY-OOPED,HAIL MARY OF A DAMN FINE FILM THAT ULTIMATELY GETS THE GOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLLL!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    and fucking typos!

    by AsimovLives

    Fucking ass!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    The Hangover and Star Trek are two

    by lockesbrokenleg

    of the best I've seen all year. Great movies. You people are stuffy.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    American football and use of feet

    by v1

    I think it's important to note that American football players DO use their feet... to move up and down the field! Ok, I know, that's lame. Americans call Football Soccer because, as in MANY other examples, we are often pompous self absorbed asses who are unwilling to concede that there is a world around us! I am an American football fan, but I realize our “football” has almost no reason to be called that!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Oh, did this thread turn racist again?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Is southafricanguy posting again?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    idrinkyourmilkshake

    by v1

    Thanks's for your compliment on my review. It's really nice to hear that someone appreciate's my style!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    I hope not racist...

    by v1

    I thought AsimovLivs was kidding around about my use of baseball terms in my review, and I retorted with some sports banter. No harm meant by anything I've posted!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Nah, not you, I was talking about some other

    by lockesbrokenleg

    people. Some other people that still think Sunshine is good.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Lockypoo, Sunshine is better than both Transformers movies

    by SoylentMean

    except in the FX department. Although, if I spent all that money on FX I'd try to have as many lingering shots of said FX as possible. <P> Or, here's a novel idea, everybody is entitled to an opinion and each individual's opinion is subjective and devoid of any intrinsic value. <P> Of course my opinions are right, merely by being mine.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Um, yeah, to you maybe. Enjoy!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Sunshine vs. Transfromers 2

    by v1

    I have not seen Sunshine, so I cannot speak as someone in a position of authority on the matter, but I'm confident it, or damn near any movie ever made, was better than Transformer's 2. It... was... drivel!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    This thread isn't about TF 2

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Talk about D 9. It isn't about that piece of shit Sunshine either. Only snobs and assholes love Sunshine.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Besides an idiot would compare TF 2 to

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Sunshine. They are two different movies. One is a slow moving, badly acted piece of shit. And the other is a fun, energetic movie.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    TF2 was kind of slow, and the acting sucked

    by SoylentMean

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    This movie was not a GRAND SLAM

    by YackBacker

    It was an RBI double off the wall in left field. Overhype is just as harmful as overly negative reviews, people. Relax. Your eyeballs have not been fucked. Nor will they be... not by a movie at least.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    I thought the beauty of talkbacks...

    by v1

    was the fact that they evolved (or in some cases DEVOLVED). They take a life of their own which is where the entertainment comes into play. I'm quite sure someone will jump in and bring us back to D-9. But in the mean time, some TF2 bashing is a worthwhile endeavor!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Not a big fan of 'The Hangover'

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    For me, it was "Dude, Where's My Car" without the single laugh of that movie.<p>Still, everyone has a different sense of humor I guess. I'm holding out for the next season of "Eastbound And Down" for my comedy injection.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    I still say home run...

    by v1

    ...but barely over the fence. Grand Slam is overhype as far as I'm concerned.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Good to see lots of "Sunshine" love here

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Equally good to see lots of "Transformers 2" hate.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Soylent Mean, did you like Cloverfield?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Probably not since JJ produced it. Oh well.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Actually LockyPoo, I loved Clovey

    by SoylentMean

    The monster design was fantastic, the acting, not so much. Still, the concept alone of Cloverfield was awesome. <P> So, you know what they say about when you assume Locky.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    It'll be interesting to see how many folks show up for...

    by SoylentMean

    the midnight show of District 9. I'm hoping for a packed house. Then again I'm hoping for Godzilla as well.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    You LIKED Cloverfield?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Wow. That movie was terrible. And you complained about the TF 2 Shaky cam?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Amazing concept, ain't it Lockes?

    by SoylentMean

    You and I liking the same film. Oh the Horror! Oh the Humanity!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Oh, so now you didn't like Cloverfield? Take some meds dude

    by SoylentMean

    Seriously.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST

    I never complained about shaky cam

    by SoylentMean

    I lamented the lost opportunity of showing of the hard work an FX team put into each and every FX shot by the over use of quick cuts. Shaky cam doesn't have anything to do with that.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    showing of=showing off, figure it out

    by SoylentMean

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You did. You said the FX was hard to see. You said the camera moved around to fast. How do you watch movies on small screen, if the camera moves are too fast?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Who the fuck said I watch movies on a small screen, ever?

    by SoylentMean

    A camera that moves too fast doesn't necessarily have to be shaky, now does it?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    The camera in TF 2 barley moved at all

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The action on the screen did, but I hardly recall the camera shaking at all.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Are you seeing District 9 Lockesbrokenleg?

    by SoylentMean

    If not maybe it's time to move on, cowpoke. It's really annoying trying to talk to someone who can't even slightly understand why another person (or persons) might consider Transformers 2 to not be such a good movie. <P> Now imagine how annoying it is trying to type at such a person.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    We are not stuffy we just have taste and respect for good filmmaking, unlike you.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST

    v1

    by AsimovLives

    Most certaintly. It was all just friendly banter.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    The SFX in Sunshine beat the shit of the SFX in Transformers

    by AsimovLives

    The SFX in Sunshine worked to the benefit of the movie. The SFX in Transformers are not even easily visible and are poorly designed and over-complicated for no good reason. That's bad SFX. sunshine wins flat out. And the fact they were made at a fraction of the the SFx of Transformers makes them so much the better. I wipe my ass on the Transformer's SFX.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    "One is a slow moving, badly acted piece of shit"

    by AsimovLives

    That would be Transformers, one of the most boring piece of shit i ever had the displeasure to watch in my whole life.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    The funniest thing about Cloverfield

    by AsimovLives

    is not in the movie itself, but in the extras in the DVD, whcn Jar Jar Abrams says in the documentary that he thinks that he noticed that America doesn't have it's own iconic monster, the same way that Japan as Godzilla, so he decided to create the great iconic american monster, to fill the gap. What makes me laugh so much is that, aparently, that retarded fucking idiot Jar Jar Abrams must have never heard of King Kong. That stupid ass Jar Jar Abrams has to be one of the most ignorant retarded over-egomaniac idiotic shit i ever had the displeasure to know it exists. What a fucking retard!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Yes, I already have tickets for midnight. Like i said before, I like ALL kinds of movies. I enjoyed Cloverfield AND TF 2. Sorry, you didn't but, oh well.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    trailer for LEGION is up at Twitchfilm

    by Squinty CGI Flynn

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    POW

    by v1

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    ZING

    by v1

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    SPLAT

    by v1

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Hey, AsimovLIves, you ALMOST went one entire

    by lockesbrokenleg

    post without complaining about Star Trek!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    "but you know... you never know" - wtf does that MEAN?

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    Harry needs to stop referring to himself in the 2nd and 1st person in the same goddamn sentence

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    sorry

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Talkbacker

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    with

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    no

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    name

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    that legion trailer was so bad it gave me a headache

    by ironic_name

    I'm gonna go get rid of my cache and delete my cookies.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Mr. Zeddemore: The Hive Mind Has Got You--Too Bad???

    by Media Messiah

    You are being self conscious about what everyone else thinks instead of pressing forth with your own views? Then you aren't worth debating if you can't think for yourself, rather than waiting for the chorus to join in before you make a comment of your own.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by DrMorbius

    A poster named ryanbraun14, left a message for you in the Gary Oldman drops a Batman bomg....The posting is from 8/6/09 @ 8:42 pm.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Oldman/Batman TB

    by DrMorbius

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    CoM...other movies to compare to D9?

    by Boober

    CoM...I dozed off. It had a bunch of familiar, top-knotch ingredients that just didn't gel into a top-knotch dish. Was D9...MATRIX "good"? Was it ALIENS "good"? Was it even Predator "good"? Was it 'Dark Knight' Heath Ledger Joker "good"? Was it Platoon "good" in terms of impact?

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Damn, you guys putting D9 on such a high throne

    by lockesbrokenleg

    all because one guy at a movie site saw it 3 times.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    I liked Cloverfield!

    by DoctorWho?

    Shaky cam was fine because duh! that's what it was...a bunch of dopes scattering like mice trying to film all hell breaking loose. <p> I liked the shot from the hellicopter when dude filmed the monster getting bombed and going down in a cloud of smoke. That clown is all "yyyeeeaahhh that's what I'm talkin about" and WHAM...slapped out of the sky. I was entertained.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Gary Oldman dropped his Batman bong?

    by DoctorWho?

    Dude.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    I liked Cloverfield too!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I hated it in the theater, but it plays much better on DVD, cause the small screen hides the shitty effects. The end was cool.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    It'll be a shame

    by Arghh

    if Bandslam gets #1 this weekend. Especially also with Ponyo coming out this weekend, and Time Traveler's Wife doesn't look like its gonna be so bad either, but yes District 9 is the movie I want to see this weekend, thanks in large part to Harry's review.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Boober

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    Yes, I'm willing to say it's pretty close if not on par with those films. Except for Platoon, which is a completely different kind of film.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    I certainly like it more than Platoon

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    Not crazy about Platoon. I'm sure I'll get flack for it but I'm more of a Full Metal Jacket kinda guy.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST

    This movie kicks ass...

    by bbbbeeeennnn

    With bullshit like transformers making a gazillion dollars if this doesn't do well then I will lose all faith in humanity.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    I mean holy shit...

    by bbbbeeeennnn

    I just saw it and I can't wait to see it again. If you ever needed proof studios should stay the fuck out of the filmmaking process, this is it.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST

    aliens and racism-how original!

    by Kelg

    Yes it is truly a groundbreaking concept, except I think Serling did it first, and then Brother From Another Planet, and Enemy Mine, and Alien Nation, and... Enough with the safe morality tales--let's have the aliens wanting to get married to humans, now we are talking cutting edge!

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    not to mention

    by Kelg

    It still cost $30 million to make and was shot on RED. Remember when $30 million could buy you an Empire Strikes Back? Another thing with this movie is the implausibility of aliens being dumped in a ghetto. They would have been rounded up and a large number wiped out to fit into quarantine. No way they would be let to roam about, spreading potential disease. Once AIDS happened, those aliens would have been blamed for it. And world governments wouldnt dump the problem in South Africa. No way. I do like the idea of a non North American location(but the heavy handed moral parable is too much).

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    I thought cloverfield was pretty cool

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    it was cool to see a giant monster attack from that view point. The concept wasn't that original or anything, but the ground level point of view made it feel fresh. It was definetly better on DVD which I suppose people will take as proof of abrams movies having tv sensibilities.

  • Aug. 12, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    I can't wait for District 10: The Sequel

    by chrismata

    They all move to the US and claim they were born in Hawaii and one of them becomes president.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    complaining about the allegory of aliens and race-how original!

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    I have seen it. do not rewatch, or even remember the trailer

    by ironic_name

    the trailer is the movie, its a great movie, but they give everything away in ads. <P> except for one character.<P> it was hilarious reading fatharry's reviews on here that there is so much more and you will have no idea what you will witness when you see it. <P> lies. see it, cuz its awesome, but you know what happens.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:51 a.m. CST

    oh, and one other thing kelg, you twit

    by ironic_name

    there is a nigerian interspecies sex trade.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    as good as TDK.

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Sharlto Copley is a fucken badass

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 2:20 a.m. CST

    Just saw it, amazing and brutal

    by Kobaal

    Can't believe it was made for $30m. What the fuck has Michael Bay been doing???

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Kobaal, cocaine and megan fox, who must suck like a vacuum.

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Wow! It is just THAT good.

    by estacado1

    Just came back from watching. I have to agree with the consensus that it is the best movie this year so far. The only complaint I have about this movie is the shaky cam at the beginning part of the movie and also at the very end. The shaky parts are supposedly documentary clips telling the story of Wikus, the protagonist. But rather than add to the feel of it, the shakiness is just nauseating. They just over did it.<p> But after a while into the movie, they got out of the documentary mode and things couldn't be any better. And as far as the effects go, there only 3 scenes that look "cheap", the rest will have you believing these "prawns" are real. After seeing how good the effects are in this, I have no doubt that my eyeballs are going to get fucked come December.<p> This is one of those movies that teases you that it's nearing the end, but inside, you go "No, I want more. It can't end like this", and the movie hears you and gives you more. And it's primed for a great sequel. The potential that this franchise has is just enormous. The way they can expand the story is just limitless and all of them can add to it's lore. This is a classic franchise in the making.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 6 a.m. CST

    I don't think a sequel is necessary [spoiler]

    by ironic_name

    it has a fairy tale end, there aren't sequels to fairy tales.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 8 a.m. CST

    ironic_name

    by Kobaal

    I think there could be a sequel, just as long as it isn't 28 Weeks Later, if you know what I mean. I would want it written & directed by Blomkamp (imagine what he could do with $100m?)<p> Sharlto Copley was amazing, even without considering his total lack of experience. If there was some kind of "best new talent" Oscar he would own it.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    CoM=BEST SciFi Film of the Decade. I Challenge You To Name Anoth

    by LaserPants

    I dare you. Name one. (Don't say District 9 unless you've actually seen it already.)

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    well laserpants, i ll have to get back to you on

    by southafricanguy

    that one when the decade is over and ive seen D9, Avatar, and Moon. But you are right about COM being good dude....

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Rewatched Children Of Men last night

    by AsimovLives

    I can't help but think that people who dismiss that movie or think it's a bad movie really must have some serious problems. How can anybody now see what a really great movie it is, movie geeks of all people? It boggles the mind!

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    I need to rewatch CoM...

    by v1

    I remember enjoying it and feeling that they did a good job with the concept. However, I don't remember coming away from it thinking it was one of the best sci fi films in the last decade.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    This very weird complain about District 9

    by AsimovLives

    Some people have this very weird absurd complain that district 9 is cliched because it shows aliens as persecutd by humans. And i'm like, as opposed to 100 years of science fiction, where the aleins have been mostly portaited as invaders, slavers and exterminators of the human race. It's rare to find SF where the humans are the bastards and the aliens the victims, and that's literature. In movie form, it's nigh on nonexistent.<br><br>The oldest depiction of humans as invasors and bastards and the aliens as victims i can find is from ursula L. LeGuinn's The Word For World Is Forest, a book published in 1976. In comic,s the earlier depiction of that idea is in 2000AD's Nemesis The Warlock first published in 1980. In movies, i can't think right off the bat of any example of that. E.T. doesn't count, because the humans in that dso not want to deliberatly kill ET. And in Alien Nation, the villains turn out to be a group of aliens, not humans.<br><br>So, you guys who are criticising District 9 for being a cliched representation of a tired idea, you guys couldn't be more wrong. It has not been portaited in movies with any great relevance, much less became a cliche. If you are going to criticise district 9, do it with for real legit reasons, not fantasy.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Im thinknig

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    the aliens allegory in d9 is more about American Army/ oldiers's treatings of the people in Gitmo and the whole loss of rights/ beating of the detainess,etc(To a certain extent)-becuase really, the MAIN GOAL is to entertain, and in order to achieve that level of reality(that they wanted)-I think the filmmakers realzied we have to be SOLD on the whole concept first.So,they had to ground some of the large concepts in something we're familiar with, and the atrocios war-acts that we've all heard/seen-and know IS real(ala:Guantanamo bay,etc.).So, thats what great about d9-its NOT some heavy-handed wartime/politcal allegory.But they wanted to make a very real alien film- THATS WHY they did it.And it works, because WHEN you see D9-you are utterly convinced it's real,and you REALLY get swept up in the fucknig emotion of the alien's plight-especially once The main character gets sucked in.The framework was genius-and they left jsut enough OUT(and hinted enoguh in it also) to warrant a very good sequel!

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Howard the Duck

    by scotsi

    Scotsi has seen Howard the Duck 3 times and is looking forward to seeing it more. " I've told you a million times...do not exaggerate-!!!"

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Is CoM really a Sci-Fi movie?

    by ebonic_plague

    I didn't see it as Sci-Fi as much as social commentary in a near-future setting. The only real "sci" in it is the concept of spontaneous worldwide sterilization, but other than that and a general dystopian outlook, it's pretty recognizable as our reality. Not like Moon or D9, which are a little more out-there than CoM. <p> Strawberry Cough, though, that's a pretty outlandish concept.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Children of Men = *yawn*

    by LaneMyersClassic

    Simplistic bore with some good effects and sets.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    idrinkyourmilkshake

    by DoctorWho?

    Please just shut up. You wouldn't know an "atrocious war act" if it bit you in the ass.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Sci Fi Is The Greatest Forum For Social Commentary

    by LaserPants

    Hence CoM. And Fahrenheit 451. And Brave New World. And 1984. And etc. etc. and on and on.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Oh, And Yes, CoM Is Very Much Sci-Fi

    by LaserPants

    Its a speculative fiction, grounded in reality, but about a possible future. The Road is also scifi. SciFi doesn't always mean spaceships and spacealiens.

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    glad I'm not the only person

    by WickedJacob

    who heard the basic story and immediately thought "Finnegan's rainbow with aliens." "Fiddler on the roof with aliens" wouldnt be that bad either (only half joking)

  • Aug. 13, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    that is a great great point asimov lives

    by slappy jones

    so true.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Went to the Seattle Screening!!!

    by motormouth_1217

    And this movie was the fucking shit, it should massivly crush G.I.JOE's opening total and will go down as one of the best of the year! Thank AICN for making it all possible!

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Just saw it in S.F. = wow

    by Randfilms

    Wow. I'm still kinda spinning. I'm gonna have to see it again. Blows away anything H-wood is doing that's repetitive and lame. Michael Bay is gay. Roland Emerich is stupid. Neil is THE MAN!

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Fucking DOPE.

    by Traumnovelle

    Just got back from the Seattle show. Me and my girl were chattering like little kids the entire ride back. District 9 is incredible, BELIEVE the hype. <P> Thanks so much for the free movie AICN and Harry. I had a blast. Great crowd to see it with, too. <P> Except for a few people that laughed, LOUDLY, at parts that I kinda felt that didn't quite GET, maybe? I really don't want to sound like a pretentious douche here, but things like the aliens being addicted to cat food, and humans calling the aliens 'prawns', were really depressing things to me. They lived in poverty and were being called racial slurs. Other people thought that shit was hilarious. I don't know. To each their own. <P> It definitely was not a big deal. I'm not trying to be a grumpy goof. The movie was absolutely incredible. <P> Doggystyle with the demon.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Children of men and Sunshine

    by evil dead 3d

    both of these movies are NOT ABOUT anything.. Blade Runner, 2001, truly GREAT movies are about something, even Logans Run and the original Rollerball are about something (many levels usually) CoFM and Sunshine not so much just stuff happening to people, no greater perspective, nothing to learn from them.. try silent running or clockwork orange boys, you don't even know what you're talking about. If you list the matrix movies as part of your argument, u really don't get it.. soylent green, andreomeda strain, alien, aliens, terminator, predator, the thing (russell) those are all sci fi that are ABOUT SOMETHING, with multiple levels and character development and plenty of kick ass to boot...

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Moon was definitely about something

    by evil dead 3d

    cant' wait to see district 9

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 2:24 a.m. CST

    CoM Not About Something?!?!

    by LaserPants

    Are you retarded? Seriously? Did you completely miss the social commentary literally SCREAMING at you? Wow. I mean, damn. That's thickness on a whole 'nother level.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Sunshine went off the rails long before

    by Dingbatty

    the Kentucky Fried Man who has out of joint of space/time showed up -- I could no longer suspend disbelief when the ENTIRE rest of the crew went for a nap when that one guy had to perform the task of turning the ship which had the potential to doom them if not followed to the letter. The cinematography was the most gorgeous, thing, though; it kept me to the end of the movie.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 4:50 a.m. CST

    D9 conveyed similar emotions as Dark Knight

    by aceattorney

    And I'm finding it to be just as compelling and moving. Let's get some Oscar talk here.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 5:46 a.m. CST

    I LAUGH AT HOLLYWOOD FOR NOT GIVING BLOMKAMP HALO

    by --- Emperor ---

    I am not even angry anymore... I knew (even before seeing District 9) that neil blomkamp was the real deal. I knew it from his short film work. Anybody with some knowledge and ability in film making would know he is the real deal. Halo would have been one of the biggest films of all time if given to this guy. Not even spielberg or cameron (yes I love cameron, but not even him) would be able to make halo work in the way that this guy can. It's funny/ironic to think that for all of Hollywood's fixation on profits, they continue to pump out pathetic rubbish that has been shown in the past to fail... Hollywood will never be redeemed unless they give this guy his chance to finally make Halo. If they don't give him the opportunity, Hollywood has ZERO credibility... Without blomkamp making halo, everybody can go and get fuc_ked. I will just download it off the net, like every other pathetic movie hollywood releases year after year.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    I was at the Minneapolis screening...

    by Ator

    ..and this movie was amazing. Probably going to go see it again today. The violence is on a Starship Troopers (the original movie) level, but given the context I wouldn't call it overly-violent. It fits. I'm kind of surprised this film isn't getting more comparisons to Enemy Mine from back in '85. I don't think too may people have seen that one though...

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    I hope D9 is NOTHING like TDK!

    by LaneMyersClassic

    Otherwise, it will be a bloated, explosion-driven, no story having, monotonous piece of shit.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    It's like...

    by Jubal_Early

    If I am trying to sale a small stool to a person who is only in the market for a table, I simply tell them that the stool IS a table, only it's very small, and meant for ornamentation of the household, maybe only hold one picture framed on it. Then the table-shopper goes, "Oh, okay." And then she buys the stool, feeling better about the purchase because I have labled it "table" instead of "stool." The table-shopper has a psychological schima in mind for "table," it means something different to her and others--that's why we have table makers who enjoy what they do and others who couldn't give a shit about a table. Packaging. It's how I package the sell. If I tell a friend that my girlfriend believes that there is a powerful, bearded sorcerer who controls the universe by casting spells, he would say I'm dating an idiot. Then, when I say to him, "Oh, you mean you don't believe in God, either?" he will look at me blank-faced for a moment, and then say, "Well, er, NO, I mean YES, I believe in God, just not a bearded sorcerer in the sky who casts spells." Yet, they are the same. God said "Let there be light," and it was so. He cast a spell. Thus, God is a spellcaster, a "sorcerer." But it's unacceptable to call him that. If I package his act as "God," then it is okay. It's all about how you package it. I feel this should clarify a few matters. P.S. They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before getting certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed Big Robots Hitting Each Other(Once Again)-

    by Sal_Bando

    -and if anything felt it was better than Terminator IV, Aliens and Demons(okay angels and..), and yes, I will say it-Trek. Fuck you too. <p> Up was fun. I skipped GI Jose, Potter IX and some others, half forgot about Public Enemas already. I AM interested in seeing both this and the Hurt Locker just because most of this summer's stuff was SO braindead-Mikey Bay revels in that-so sure, I'll give this one a lookee. <p> Harold falls prey to (highly suspect) payola charges and is an easy target for some of these things (GI Jose?! really Harold you liked that?!) despite himself. I've NO intention of watching Cokey's latest opus but will certain check out this latest offering from the House of Sir Petey Jax just because. Prawns=Kaffirs. Got it.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    D9 like TDK?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    jeesuz, now I've heard everything.

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    saw it

    by Six Demon Bag

    pretty damned good...

  • Aug. 14, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    I read this sentence by Harry:

    by Exasperilious

    "The aliens themselves are pretty repulsive looking, buzzing with flies - you can tell that they stink and live in squalor... but that they are in this shape, this squalor and decay... that is a shame at another level." And my head exploded. Needless to say I didn't finish the review. Please learn to write. Thank you.

  • Aug. 15, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Just Saw It-- a non-spoiler comment

    by corplhicks

    Definitly worth seeing in a theater. Acting of the supporting cast was weak. The main star or two did a good job. Story is basically Apartheid meets Robocop-level out of control Privatization of goernment functions. That alone should tell you how fucked up the "private company" makes o things and how twisted they are. Best actor was a non-human so whomever did the motion capture work + computer animation deserves a kudos. There was one quick sentence straight out of Nazi dictrine. A few scenes were chilling. Overall I think the movie was very good but not the unbelievable masterpiece that people write about-- I think it is becomming a little too PC to say anything else about this very good film. A lot of the acting was "eh" and amateurish. But the overall story and saga of the aliens was well done, despite a couple of glaring plot holes I give it 3/4 stars.

  • Aug. 15, 2009, 6:54 a.m. CST

    i would think studio execs

    by muhoobda

    would be calling in their directors and producers and saying wtf is wrong with you if this guy can make his first movie for 30 million and its better then your last 5 100 million crapfests!

  • Aug. 15, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    THIS MOVIE IS THE REAL DEAL - NO JOKE. SEE IT.

    by Mennen

    Haven't felt like this since I walked out of ROBOCOP. I was pleasantly surprised then and as cynical as I am today, I was pleasantly surprised last night;) See it.

  • Aug. 15, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    I respectfully disagree....

    by jgsugden

    I'm sorry to be the voice of dissent, but this film barely rated a C for me, and my wife HATED it. (Spoilers follow) My major problems: 1.) Too many holes in the logic. If you stop to ask 'why' for many of the things in the movie, there is no reasonable answer. Why cat food and not other foods? Christopher needed to collect liquid for 20 years to get the job done, but a bunch of it leaks and he could still get it done? Why was Christopher so different? How could the aliens have lived with us for 20 years and we still have no idea whether the ship returning home would lead to war or not? 2.) There has a message for the film, but it betrayed that message. First of all, it hit you over the head with the message so hard that the characters in the film would have felt at home in a melodrama. The characters were established, but they kept on reestablishing the same things over and over for the first hour of the film. Secondly, the entire 'prawn' race was portrayed as being pretty much all the same with the exception of 2 or 3 members of the race. "They're all the same" really doesn't fit with the message of the film. The characters in the film could perceive the "prawns" to all be the same without betraying the message, but the audience needed to see differentiation in the characters. 3.) The main character was written with the personality of a supporting character. He had minimal depth. His 'zero's journey' was not a progression - it was a series of sudden shifts from second string character to second string character. First he's the bumbling jerk. Then he's the bumbling victim. Then he's the die hard lieutenant. I couldn't relate to the transitions. 4.) The story felt incomplete. I understand that this was intentional, but there were too many holes left open at the end for me to feel that the story was worthwhile. ------ They did great things with the visual look of the film, but quite frankly, great things with visual effects are the norm for the era in sci-fi. I would not see it again, and I'd wait for Netflix for a sequel.

  • Aug. 15, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    "blows menthol smoke from sockets"

    by EveryonesReimagining_or_ER

    WAS THAT A GREAT EYEBALL FUCKING MOVIE OR WHAT??? THAT MOVIE WAS THE ABSOLUTE SHIT OF THE DECADE! THAT REALLY GOOD SHIT! YOU KNOW THE KIND! THAT LONG UNBREAKABLE MOTHERFUCKER! I'LL SCRATCH & SNIFF THAT ONE ALL DAY BA-BAY! YOU GOTTA HAVE GOALS! -GEORGE THE SEVENTH CHICKEN! Wait...

  • Aug. 15, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    George, The Seventh Freaking Chicken...

    by EveryonesReimagining_or_ER

    Whatever happened to you? Anyway, great great great Great piece of work (very far from shit really) - NO SEQUEL NECESSARY.

  • Aug. 16, 2009, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Harry about your favorite movies of the year

    by Osiris3657

    How are Moon and Watchmen not among the top ones??? Brothers Bloom gets an honorable mention too

  • Aug. 16, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    yes a beautiful film

    by flipster

    one of the best Sci Fi flicks ever - a total golden ager in tone and story.

  • Aug. 16, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    I liked D9 - didn't realized it was based on LASERBLAST

    by Friendo

    AAHH, HAHAHAHAH AHA HAHAH AHA HA HAH AHAH A HA H AH AHHAHAHAH AHHAHAHHA AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH AHAH AHAH AHHA "This is not your grandfather's Laserblast..." HAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAH HA HAHAHA HAH AH AH HA HAH AHAHHAH AHHAH AHA

  • Aug. 16, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Didn't like it...

    by Mr. Waturi

    First off, human civilization has spent hundreds of years wondering what or who exists in outer space. As a whole, we have spent trillions of dollars and endless man hours trying to develop technology that will not only allow us to travel into space and/or communicate with any alien species that might be trying to contact us. So the very notion that we would so quickly dismiss an alien species that has managed to travel to our planet is completely and utterly retarded. As if human beings, who have spent their entire lives dreaming about an event like this, would allow a spaceship the size of Manhattan to just float there for twenty years without some type of global effort to extricate every last bit of technological insight that we could find from the ship and its inhabitants. No, instead the director wants us to believe that we would be so overwhelmed by some type of innate racism that we would be completely blind to the potential life-changing discoveries that might be found. Sure, you could take the opposite approach and say that we would take a defensive position and set out to destroy the potential threat of the alien race or that it might ignite a world war, but to say that over the course of just twenty years we would come to ignore them and/or see them as a nuisance is just idiotic. As if, in the meantime, NASA engineers would just go about their business spending years of their lives trying to build remote control robots that travel to Mars to take pictures. If you buy into the worldview that this movie presents in any way- that humans are that evil, pathetic, and/or apathetic- then I feel sorry for you. You can point to all of the examples of racism, etc. in our history that you want and they still do not add up to "District 9." To compare how humans treat other humans to how we would treat aliens from another planet is just assenine. We simply have more sense than that. That being said, I agree with most of the plot-holes mentioned in previous posts, here are a few more - -Christopher has been accumulating the space juice for twenty years. It is the key to his species survival and the only way he can return to his planet. Yet, when humans come knocking on his door he trusts his child to hide it (and in a cupboard of all places). This is especially retarded considering that they also happen to be hiding an enormous spaceship beneath them. So why not hide the juice inside the ship and lock the door? -Wikus' wife, the love of his life, his angel, etc. sees him taken away by govt. officials at the hospital. She freaks out, spends however long hearing the govt. try to cover up the event, then hours later she decides "you know, maybe I should try calling my husband on his cell phone..." And her husband, although a high ranking official of a govt. agency and the most-wanted fugitive in the world, somehow isn't smart enough to know that he can be traced via cell-phone. - Wikus stealing the spaceship was retarded. What would ever make him think that he could fly an alien spaceship? Or that he would know where and how to land on the mothership, how to find his way around the mothership, what the cure is that he is looking for and how to administer it. For Wikus to think for even a second that he could achieve his goal without Christopher is completely idiotic. It simply wouldn't happen no matter how desperate he is. Christopher was obviously the key to his cure, so he would have NEVER left him behind. - The gang leader captures Wikus, who then demonstrates that he can actually fire the alien weapons. So what does the the leader do? He lets Wikus slowly back out of the tent while caring a lumbering weapon under one arm? Really? None of the dozens of surrounding Nigerians could have fired a head shot from behind? The gang leader giving him a warning was just laughable at that point. -The shack where his condition originated has not been quarantined and taken apart by the evil top-secret agency (therefore finding the buried ship)? On the same note, the spaceship that broke off from the mother ship and disappeared for twenty years suddenly reappears. Then after it is shot down, nobody decides to examine or seal off the location of the wreckage? Instead, the child alien is allowed to sit inside the ship and repair the damage while the authorities continue to chase Wikus. "Moon" is still the best movie of the year.

  • Aug. 16, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Breath of fresh air for the genre

    by Jubal_Early

    Just saw it, have no complaints. -We're all just floating.

  • Aug. 16, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Cool but overrated

    by Mt. Top

    Hear me out. I saw the flick on a DP screen in a new theatre with a perfect seat. The crowd was cool and I am always jonesing for any decent sci-fi (e.g. loved 'Moon'). My judgment of 'District 9'? Cool but not earth shattering. Positive critics made the flick sound like Moses come down from the mountain. Comments like "You'll see things you've never seen before." turned out to be untrue. I can't think of one thing in the movie I hadn't seen before. Not one. Was it neat? Yeah. Of course. Was it great for the budget? I've never been given 30 million to do something with but I'll take everyone's word for it that for the budget it was amazing. But... was the movie really incredible? No. Not really. With the exception of a couple of explosions that rocked there was nothing that made my eyes pop. Will I see it again and buy it on Blu-ray? Yeah.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Just like "The Crying Game"...

    by The Gipper

    At the end, the female alien he has fallen in love with is revealed to be a guy...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Just like "The Sixth Sense"...

    by The Gipper

    At the end, the alien discovers that the human can communicate with him because he is actually dead...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Just like "The Blair Witch Project"...

    by The Gipper

    At the end, the camera with the video tape of all this turns up in rural Maryland with no sign of those who were filming it...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Just like "Citizen Kane"...

    by The Gipper

    At the end, it turns out the incomprehensible babble uttered by the alien was the name of his childhood rocket sled...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Just like "Planet of the Apes"...

    by The Gipper

    At the end, it turns out that Earth is the aliens' home planet which they discover when they see a giant statue of their ancient king ^%&*)% the Fourth sticking up through the sand on the beach...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Just like "Fight Club"...

    by The Gipper

    At the end, it turns out that the human is just a figment of the alien's imagination...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Just like "No Way Out"...

    by The Gipper

    At the end, it turns out that the alien really is the supposedly fictional Russian spy used as a rouse to engage in a cover-up of the death of the Sec. of Defense's mistress...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Just like "The Usual Suspects"...

    by The Gipper

    At the end, it turns out that the alien actually is Keyser Söze...

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Not Bad, 6/10

    by DIBARAHMAN

    I read your review, and was looking forward to the last 20 minutes Harry. But I have to say, it was quite straightforward. A very ugly film, quite devoid of any beauty, and eee het de sid eeefrikan eekcents eeen eet. eet eeez saw aglee. I kind of amalgam of V, and Alien Nation. Nothing spectacular. I thought the political overtones and racial overtones were those of a 15 year old as well. Quite boring.

  • Aug. 17, 2009, 11:37 p.m. CST

    I'm glad I didn't read this first

    by CherryValance

    Because I felt exactly the same way, and had I known going in that it was supposed to be that great maybe the expectation would have done something to how I reacted. I can't imagine seeing something better I like this year either.

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 1:11 a.m. CST

    District 9

    by ChazzFox

    I like it when movies have unknowns in them cause you can get lost in the story without seeing the actor in something else. I cant watch Monk without seeing Stottlemeyer as Buffalo Bill from The Silence of the Lambs. The tuck-job still haunts me to this day. District 9 was awesome!! Cant wait for part 2!!

  • Aug. 18, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Bloody, violent fun.....

    by thot

    Though I didn't much care for the annoying faux documentary/shaky cam thing going on. Woulda been better shot conventionally. First 2/3 was a bit on the slow side but REALLY got rockin' during the final act! CGI creatures were excellent, some of the best I've seen. Great cliffhanger ending which will, no doubt, give us District 10 in 2011. Thumbs up.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Average film

    by tonethestone

    at very best 5/10

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    ChazzFox wtf

    by CharyouTree

    Stottlemeyer is Buffalo Bill? thats awesome.<p> And as for D9 I'll just copy my view from the other TB Best Video Game Movie EVER, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I wouldn't say it was a masterpiece, had only a couple of cheesy moments. The end was awesome non-stop, thigh slapping, cool ass action. It really felt like a talanted, professional geek made this movie, with the gravity gun lifted straight from Half Life, and I'm sure I'd seen that bullet catcher in something. Even the end where he's fighting in the suit. The whole time I kept thinking, it's like the best game ever, he's even shouting abuse like a gamer would. It was a good movie, great to amazing at times. And I do hope they do a sequal. Why would you not want more of this?<p> Also I haven't seen Moon yet, which I feel looks less fun but more substantial. Can anyone confirm this?

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Shouldn't have read the reviews before I saw it

    by thewirebitches

    Especially Harry's. I kept on waiting for it to shift into another gear until I realized it had none. I understand what they were going for in Wikus but he just comes of a bit too Steve Carell from The Office, and a bigger douche on top of that. The Alien weaponry was awesome and so was the character work done by none other than WETA. I can't find to much to hate about it, but I can't find anything to love either. Basically the same reaction I had after seeing Children of Men so I know I am in the minority here. The Hurt Locker is STILL the best movie I have seen this year. Everything else is just not on the same level. And fuck I wanted to love this movie so much but just couldn't. Its like those damn 3d puzzles I know everyone else sees something I just can't.

  • Aug. 19, 2009, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Eh...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    saw it tonight. While it was overall entertaining, it was extremely slow paced at times. Harry's headline makes it sound like it's the next big thing in film. Goes to show how fucking amateur the dude really is.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Awesome

    by StrykerIsland

    Saw this last night, I went in basically blind to the plot, and loved every minute of it. The sequel should be all kinds of epic.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Cool film..but..

    by The Dark Shite

    Nowhere near to being a sci-fi classic. Not even close. <p> The political analogies were good but not exactly the kind that require deep thinking or raise questions like Blade Runner of Children of Men. If you're not very smart I'm sure it's genius philsophy.<p> I'd say it's a great action sci-fi movie, with a unique style & lots of fun, but that's it. <p> Oh & Harry, Black Hawk Down wasn't about the real world either. It was a fictionalised account with the good guys & bad guys switched.<p> There was no "liberation", you invaded 'cause they got a democratic president who refused to continue letting you take their oil reserves, essentially enlaving what should be a rich country, into a 3rd world one. <p> Just saying, if you wanna talk one type of politics & hamitarianism in a particlular movie, you should be careful with your analogies of other movies.

  • Aug. 20, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Humanitarianism, not hamanitarianism.

    by The Dark Shite

    Although I'm all for pig equality.

  • Aug. 22, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Absolute CLASSIC

    by quantize

    fuck political analogies... <p> if you didnt get a kick ass ride out of District 9 you are DEAD INSIDE.

  • Aug. 22, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    I thought it was VERY much like Children of Men

    by Drath

    Another bleak distopian world that degenerates into a war movie. I agree that it's interesting, but I found it overly cynical and was also left feeling there were a lot of plot holes. What the hell actually afflicted the aliens causing them to come to Earth at all? Why was "Christopher" the only one trying to get back to the mother ship? Why did he need to salvage this special fluid for 20 years when apparently his own people were giving it away in weapons for cat food? Why couldn't it have been salvaged on the ship before the human cut their way in? If it was because the module fell first, WHY did it fall off without a means of reconnecting? Why did Wikus act like the Prawns were just bugs when he joyfully has their eggs burned yet clearly perceives their language and understands they are sentient? Okay, fine, you think people would be fine with that, great, yet he had a problem later with killing one with its own weapon instead of a pig, so he assigned SOME value to them that he didn't earlier. Where were the advocates for the aliens because you KNOW there would be some. And why could the aliens make weapons so advanced and not use them to break free? I've read online people saying they were drones and the queen was dead, but that was just a guess said in the movie, what happened to her? If Wikus turned into a Prawn because of the spray, does that mean Prawns weren't Prawns once as well? Did the aliens have a caste system? It bewilders me how the holes in this are ignored but the holes in Signs weren't--other than this has more violence and a less happy ending (plus no mention of God), and that's more pleasing to an audience that increasingly likes to celebrate cynicism as the ultimate "too cool for school" fashion statement. Yawn to that. I think this was pretty damn good as a technical achievement, and not badly acted, but the subject of the film was and OD of nihilism.

  • Aug. 22, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Drath

    by mthrndr

    Good points all. Thought I have a feeling some of these will be answered in the inevitable DISTRICT 10. I just hope it won't be the CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK to DISTRICT 9's PITCH BLACK.

  • Aug. 24, 2009, 6:13 a.m. CST

    Drath, if I may add some more plot questions...

    by cucumber

    Yes, what was it about that liquid energy source - it was so omnipotent it might as well have been magic. Why did the energy liquid have a dual function as a potent gene-altering virus? And how did the alien ship stay floating when it was unpowered... I have a feeling the nonsensical plot was pasted on as a weak excuse for the director to indulge in guns, robots and his unique slum setting. But you can get shoot-out action and robots in an Xbox game. I want a real story when I see a movie.

  • Aug. 24, 2009, 6:31 a.m. CST

    And you are right, the character motivations were unbelievable

    by cucumber

    Why did Christopher Johnson freeze up in the Biolab when he saw a Prawn victim? Wasn't he used to seeing brutality against Prawns every day in the settlement? And why was it illegal for humans to kill Prawns, but OK to kill their young? Why wasn't this explained better?

  • Aug. 24, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Sunshine? WTF?

    by Dr. Chim Richalds

    Who actually thinks that Sunshine is great sci-fi? It's a decent movie until the second half rolls around and the crew starts getting chased by Mr. Generic Serial Killer, then it becomes nothing more than your garden variety Alien ripoff.

  • Aug. 24, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    can't be said enough: blurry burnt crispy man

    by just pillow talk

    destroys Sunshine.

  • Aug. 24, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Drath and Cucumber...plot 'holes' addressed

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    I haven't seen many sci-fi films that explained every facet of the world they inhabit, so I'm not sure what would have satisfied you guys but very little of the 'holes' you've mentioned ring like genuine holes. From what was said and seen in the story, if you want to be obsessive - and as I consider it one of the very best sci-fi stories I've seen since Close Encounters, I must indulge and defend it in an obsessive manner - you can easily extrapolate answers to your comments. 1. - What the hell actually afflicted the aliens causing them to come to Earth at all? - Perhaps the evident 'virus' that was afflicting the aliens killed of their hierarchy. It is mentioned that what was left were the workers - maybe they were stronger than the leaders and so they survived, and perhaps the ship was programmed in the event of catastrophe to seek out shelter at the nearest survivable planet. 2 - Why was "Christopher" the only one trying to get back to the mother ship? Why did he need to salvage this special fluid for 20 years when apparently his own people were giving it away in weapons for cat food? Why couldn't it have been salvaged on the ship before the human cut their way in? - Perhaps Christopher was the last surviving leader, or the ships pilot - it would explain his seeming elevated intelligence and autonomy compared to the drones. Perhaps the creatures were all too sick before the ship was cut into to have the presence of mind to salvage the fluid. And perhaps the module dropping away was the ships control centre - designed to do so to prevent the ships systems being accessed by anyone other than the leaders of the society. And perhaps the weapons didn't use that fluid - hence him not stripping them for it. 3 - Why did Wikus act like the Prawns were just bugs when he joyfully has their eggs burned yet clearly perceives their language and understands they are sentient? Okay, fine, you think people would be fine with that, great, yet he had a problem later with killing one with its own weapon instead of a pig, so he assigned SOME value to them that he didn't earlier. Where were the advocates for the aliens because you KNOW there would be some. - Understanding their sentience is one thing, having overt sympathy for them is something else. Look at the Nazi's and their treatment of the jews, they knew they were every bit as intelligent or 'human', they just adopted an ideology that SAW them as lesser beings and so were able to mistreat them without thinking too much, in a lot of cases - much as Wikus treats the eggs, which he see's as contributing to overpopulation of the species, something he thinks or is under orders about needing controlling. And seeing the eggs as the same as seeing a grown Prawn is also something else - people have abortions, doesn't mean they can flippantly kill a full grown human. As to advocates for the aliens, it was addressed several times - the crowd protesting possible rights abuses when MNU entered the camp to commence the eviction orders, the evident outrage over the MNU medical experiments caused in the press - the whole film after all isincorporating a documentary about what happened to Wikus and the fallout from the discovery of those experiments. 4 - And why could the aliens make weapons so advanced and not use them to break free? I've read online people saying they were drones and the queen was dead, but that was just a guess said in the movie, what happened to her? - The drones may have put the weapons together some time in the past when under orders, doesn't mean they understand them and how they work - assembly line workers in real life put together all sorts of complex equipment without understanding how it works. It's also sdtated without hierarchy they are aimless and unable to organise themselves so an organised armed insurrection in that case is unlikely. Also, if they were clever enough to do it, they would also be clever enough to understand they had nowehere to go. It's not like they could disappear into the population and expect a better life. And what happened to their leader/s? Well, the workers were all ill on arrival. It's stated their leadership, however it worked, is gone - perhaps with the exception of Christopher - maybe they succumbed to the illness sooner than the workers. And if Christopher was one of the leadership caste, maybe he knew if he was identified as such the humans would be stripping him of any info on how the technology worked. It would make me keep a low profile. 5 - Yes, what was it about that liquid energy source - it was so omnipotent it might as well have been magic. Why did the energy liquid have a dual function as a potent gene-altering virus? And how did the alien ship stay floating when it was unpowered... - There was nothing to suggest the ship was unpowered in the film, just that without the liquid the ship couldn't be operated. Based on the weapons, perhaps their entire technology was based on DNA acceptance hence the 'magical' transformation of Wikus. Was the liquid some form of control technology.....it would seem so, rather than fuel. When it was input into the module, the child was able to control the mothership which would suggest it was a 'key' to the technology rather than the fuel that operated the ship. This is all supposition on my part but in my defence i'd say my thoughts would fit the supposed 'hole's you've both mentioned. Again, I'm not sure what people expect as every film ever made leaves out history regarding the characters, motivations, the world they inhabit. It seems more that the story didn't jibe with you to some degree, in Cucumbers case it seems he simply didn't like it full stop. But not having everything explained is not the same as having a genuine plot hole, and in that regard I find District 9 to be pretty high on my list of the best films - for me at least. Hell, The Dark Knight was absolutely fellated, rimmed and handjobbed to death on this site and I found it to be average at best, with a whole lot of genuine plot holes compared to anything in District 9. Personal taste goes a long way in seeing or not seeing 'flaws' I guess.

  • Aug. 25, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST

    District 9 Review

    by TheMovieHour

    Check out http://www.themoviehour.com to hear our review of District 9 including a fumbling, bumbling analysis of it's sloppy political subtext.

  • Aug. 25, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    MovieHour...

    by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER

    No one gives fuck one about your shitty site bud...peddle your irrelevant smut elsewhere. Cunt. Now..about the movie! It is well done...sure, some people are over-zealously proclaiming it as the be all end all sci fi film. It's not that - but it is smart, quick, ferocious and occassionally thought provoking. The last 20 minutes is as exhilerating as any film in recent years.

  • Aug. 26, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Saw it last night - liked it a lot! Creature observation...

    by LaneMyersClassic

    Do you think the creatures looked a bit like "The Fly?" I was trying place where I've seen something similar and that came to mind. Really enjoyed the film. I want Wikus to come back - not necessarily as a human.

  • Aug. 27, 2009, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Boring

    by christpunchers2007

    Generic action pieces stringed together with a few somewhat fresh ideas but overall it was loud annoying, shaky cam, dumb fun for 12 year olds. Oh yeah and the alien says "I won't leave you friend" near the end? Isn't that a tad bit predictable?

  • Aug. 27, 2009, 1:03 a.m. CST

    And the audience

    by christpunchers2007

    was pathetic. By the 40th time that someone's head was headshot and exploded into bloody chunks (which we don't even see the gore of) there were still retards behind me going "OO! DID YOU SEE THAT?". Is that what the adults of today find accepts as entertainment? Same old pony trick over and over again?

  • Aug. 29, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Saw it yesterday and really enjoyed it...

    by REDD

    Noticed similarities to Alien Nation, The Fly and RoboCop.

  • Sept. 1, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    good, but did not quite live up to the hype for me.

    by a2thamizzo

    I love that films like this pop up every now and then. But to me, the best sci-fi is the kind that takes has something to actually say about life/humanity, but wraps it in sci-fi circumstances. District 9 did not deliver on that, IMO. Good setup & backstory - but from there, the morality of the situation was never really explored, and that's what I was under the impression the story was *really* about. Only the briefest mention of people protesting the aliens' treatment. We just get humans being complete dicks to the Prawns, an abundance of goop and pus, a throwback to The Fly, and a fairly rousing last half-or-so. There were also some fairly noticeable inconsistencies - like the fact that the hero has no problem torching alien babies, then all of a sudden not wanting to shoot another alien, with no character progression between points A and B. The impressions I got from what I'd read were that this was really something almost reminiscent of Schindler's List on a certain level - a person acting at his own peril, against massive forces, to do what he can to right a wrong on the scale of genocide. Instead, D9 is like a story where Oskar Schindler somehow gets a Star of David on all his clothes, and enlists the help of a Jew to remove said Stars of David, merely to save his own ass.

  • Sept. 4, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    It was better then the hype for me

    by Series7

    So good.

  • Sept. 7, 2009, 4:15 a.m. CST

    ASS DOWN - this is a site for geeks. Run a long now.

    by silentbobafett2

    And D9 was WAAAAY better than the hype!

  • Sept. 7, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Ticked all the boxes for me

    by TomMcDavison

    Nice to see aliens dont just always head direct for the good ol US. Good set up, story, style (the part documentary worked well), the humour (aliens addicted to cat food whodathunkit )the FX and highly impressed by lead actor (and amateur) Sharlto Copley. I cant think of many movies where the protagnonist is Afrikaans accented. Highly recommend and will be a bluray must-buy.

  • Sept. 8, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Loved it

    by donkey_lasher

    Easily the best nerd film of this year. I was sceptical when I read Harry's review considering he thought that the heavily flawed Star Trek was so awesome and that he loved Indy 4. Now I fully appreciate the viral marketing done on this.

  • Sept. 8, 2009, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Just saw it.

    by Harold-Sherbort

    Really enjoyed it. The only thing I didn't like was the military guy who was chasing him. You know in real life he wouldn't have thought twice to shoot as soon as he had the chance. Other than that, it was a very well done movie. Not the second coming of cinema, but a very enjoyable and occasionally thought provoking movie.

  • Sept. 10, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Thanks Peter Jackson...

    by DC Films

    ...For having the guts to give Neill Blomkamp what he needed to make this.<p> I wish more people in the business had your vision.

  • Sept. 10, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    BTW, did you know...

    by DC Films

    ...That according to IMDB Sharlto Copley improvised all of his dialogue? <p>Makes sense, as he's never acted, so they've gone the reality route, but the results are bloody impressive.

  • Sept. 14, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Wikus was a liitle bit of Scarface, Ash, & Borat

    by Annie The Pod Racer

    That's what I got from the film. Can't believe he's a first time actor practically. Fucking Brilliant movie & acting!

  • Sept. 16, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    perfect review

    by darkpassenger

    almost every word of that review i agreed with. best movie ive seen in years.. parts of it gave me chills... the christopher prawn and the child were awesome

  • Sept. 18, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Toatally Agree

    by Section6

    the skilll of peter jacksion is unreal if you havent watched it watch it at the first chance you get it is absolutley brilliant thow i think he over uses the south african accent a little.when they swear it sounds funny too

  • Sept. 20, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    District 9 was...

    by EnronScandal

    ...triumphant, epic, original...beautiful film making in my opinion. it was a science fiction movie that felt REAL...i know that sounds like an oxymoron LOL. it was perfectly done and i love how they kept relatively quiet until about 2-3 months before it came out. it wasn't like The Dark Knight where i was following it for a year. it just popped up and didn't disappoint. i really like how it is a commentary on us as humans...if aliens were to come to our planet, i can picture our reaction being as such. myself and my friend both agree that the World War Z movie should have the dark, realistic, gritty feel to it that District 9 did. Hollywood...start taking notes!

  • Sept. 24, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Forget D9 give me D13 Ultimatum ....

    by masteryoda007

    ....right fucking now!

  • Sept. 24, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    District 9's symbolism

    by SoulReaver

    Did anyone notice the goat logo on the MNU guys? I mean, I really don't want to give this more attention than it deserves... but isn't that a satanic symbol? Baphomet anyone? Anyway, I thought it to be a really innovative movie with a stunning performance by Cropley and some insane weaponry that literally blew my mind. I really agree that a good film doesn't need high profile actors to be good, nor does it need an insanely high budget. Oh, and for that Media Messiah: I bet I have a story twist that yours can't beat. So what? If I can get this idea made, we will see, but if not, I can go fuck myself and be bitter about it, but nobody will care. Get it done or continue sucking - but boasting on the internet won't get you anything.

  • Oct. 4, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Symbolism

    by Fineus Fog

    Soulreaver - you will find the Logo is not a goat but a Springbok, whicxh is a horned Antelope like creature native to the Southern African plains

  • Oct. 9, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    I was dissapointed

    by punto

    and I was really happy to see that it started out as classic, _real_ science fiction. But then it turned into a typical action movie, all about the explosions and who gets chased and who gets killed. The plot made no sense, but I wouldn't have cared about that if it had stuck with the social issues that it raised. But in the end it was all about the explosions, and the plot just couldn't sustain that.

  • Oct. 22, 2009, 2:42 a.m. CST

    D9

    by Centryeagle

    Well, I saw it today after readin so much about it. Some said its gory and some said its action packed. Posters of it shows thousands of war driods or whatever they are so, I was expecting a huge war movie. I may have anticipated way too much and walked out of the cinema thinking if they will give me a refund. I think its ok movie, good episode if its on Twilight Zone.

  • Oct. 23, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Co-sign, Harry.

    by VanDeMerwe

    I seen D9 in theatres 4 times and it just blew my mind with each viewing. I don't think anything beats that exosuit climax. It's funny, for a film budgeted at $30 million, that exosuit looked much more realistic than any of Bay's $200+ million Transformers.

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