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The RED DAWN Remake Cast Continues To Fill Out!!
Merrick here...
Dan Bradley's remake of RED DAWN rolls next month; final casting is underway and some new additions have just been announced. Interestingly, all of these folks are taking on roles that existed in John Milius' 1984 original.
Josh Hutcherson (ZATHURA and JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH) will take the role originated by C. Thomas Howell. Leah Thompson's character will be played by Isabel Lucas (she was the horny Decepticon mega babe with the nimble tongue in REVENGE OF THE FALLEN). Brad Savage's role will now be picked up by Edwin Hodge, and Connor Cruise (son of Tom) will take on a part played by Darren Dalton back in 1984.
You can find a nifty photo gallery/comparison thingie over at EW by clicking HERE.
The original film is currently showing on MGM HD. As the title's not available on Blu-Ray yet, this might be a fun way for you to check it out if the network's available in your area. Looks pretty nice in HD.
Still not sure why this is being remade, though (which is, as you know, my reaction to about 99.5 percent of all remakes) - but Bradley's work as stunt god/2nd Unit Director on many other project suggests he might come up with something interesting here, so I'm curious to see what kind of movie he'll make. I have a hunch it may be better than expected. We'll see...
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When the fuck did Connor Cruise show up on the scene?
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.....WOO-HOO! WORD UP MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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In the role of Patrick Swayze so we can end this stupid fucking idea now?
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.....not first! I have work to do!
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you never call 'first'.
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Good looking kid... just wasn't expecting it.
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do it.
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surely there are better, more interesting films to be made...and more importantly for AICN to report on-OR DOESN'T THIS SITE BREAK COOL NEWS ANYMORE????
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haha thats exactly what i kept saying, i had no idea he was adopted. so michael jackson's girls come out white and tom cruises son is black. makes sense to me.
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...I dug the original when I was thirteen, but this is for the America under siege, real small town America, victimized by the media elites, automatic rifle under the bed, the country is being overrun by brown people crowd. For some reason I can't fathom they desperately need to feel victimized and downtrodden...the scrappy underdog American Superpower Empire. Well, that and it might be fun. I might see it.
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Is this not going to include the Commies invading? Cuz isn't that where the "Red" comes from?
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The kids were not the hottest kids as much as good looking but with something to remember. Now it like if they are hot they are in and these remake casts have no memorable actors/faces.
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and i'm used to it now, but do they REALLY have to make half of the characters black? I mean, when the shit hits the fan like that, the white kids and the black kids are not going to be on the same team. kind of ruins any credibility the film might have had.
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I'd never watched it all the way through before. The first act is so silly, I've always shut it off.
This time I stuck it out till the end. I never realized just how much more meat there was to that movie. It gets way more complex and interesting, expecially in the third act.
No way this remake will retain the awesomeness of how the original ends. -
Good to know you've finally seen the light.
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Fuck the entire concept of remaking this. Fuck it in the ass.
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China is communist, so if that is the plan for the script the title still works. It's much shorter than my proposed title of "Stupid Uneeded Unoriginal Remake of the First PG-13 Movie to Hit The Big Screen Why are You Screwing with it Jerks?" It just doesn't flow.
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Aug 10, 2009 11:26:58 AM CDT
How are they going to explain away the spy satellites?
by royston lodge
When the original was made, spy satellites weren't as sophisticated as what's available today. So how are they going to explain how the Wolverines are able to hide in the mountains in 2010?
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Ain't it Remake News because that's all that's getting churned out now.
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As if Hollywood needs a reason to churn out crap. Here's one for you: Star Trek Generations. So Picard can step out of that void at whatever time, yada yada. Does he step out when the evil Dr. McDowell is on the Enterprise before everyone knows of his plans? No, he steps out right at the last minute on the planet. All he had to do was pop out on the deck, say yoo hoo Mr Worf throw his jerk out an airlock.
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Russia's not invading anyone at this point, and with their oil reserves they have no need to. China however is going to be fucked supporting their population long term.
The background should be that this is the first of the global resource wars. We're flat broke from the massive trade deficit/outsourcing and we stop payment on our Chinese debt. A desperate China then invades to effectively repo the nation, since they own it all on paper.
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Go forward 10 to 20 years. The polar ice cap has retreated enough that the North-West Passage is navigable 12 months out of the year.
A four-way war breaks out between Canada, the USA, Russia and Denmark for control.
Makes way more sense than Red Dawn: 2010 does.
Denmark has already planted their flag on a remote Canadian island, which in earlier times would have escalated to all-out war. Remember the Falklands?
The USA "offers its support" to Canada, which is rejected cuz Canada KNOWS what the USA really wants.
Russia sends in its navy, but half their rusty tugs sink enroute, irradiating the Arctic ocean.
The Canadian Rangers (a rag-tag assortment of Inuit using decades-old firearms and riding on Ski-Doos) emerge as the film's heroes.
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...you KNOW the continent's first nations would use the opportunity to take back lost territory. Now THAT would make an interesting movie.
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...for the rape of my childhood!
Well not really. I just think this premise is too dated for it to resonate with a USA audience.
Now if like I said they made the US the INVADERS rather than the INVADEES, it would be something that would set it apart from the original. It could actually be pretty thought-provoking for a US audience to see a US invasion from the eyes of people in a different country. -
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you're not, you sound like A) the dwarf character from In Bruges and B) like a crackhead. If you are, my apologies.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b24FMWVvqo
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That wouldn't work. It's a good idea, and it's original.
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They've got TEEEEEEEEEEENs.
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then I won't bother seeing it ...
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Nope. It's no good. I just can't bring myself to give two shits about this film.
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no, i was not being sarcastic. if the USA was invaded, the only people who would be prepared to put up any kind of resistance would likely not tolerate any blacks among them, for various reasons. furthermore, do you REALLY think that, if we were invaded, those regions of the USA that are heavily integrated would suddenly forget all their racial bias, and suddenly band together for the greater good? or do you think those areas would self destruct, as they have done in the past?
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in what Tony Gilroy is going to do with this material. He has written great stuff in the past, and I am curious to see how he will approach it. Like many people here, I feel the John Milius original is very much of its time... Gilroy can't make a carbon copy of the original story - the geopolitics of the word has changed too drastically - and using a "red threat" like North Korea will come off as ridiculous.
I wonder if the new version will have more in common to Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising than the 1984 Red Dawn? In RSR, Clancy imagines a scenario where the USSRs oil refineries are attacked by Islamic terrorists. These attacks coincide with crop failures and droughts across Russia's bread basket forcing the Soviets to move against the NATO allies to acquire oil and food reserves for its population.
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Aug 10, 2009 12:10:56 PM CDT
I almost hope it is like that. This way Clancy
by grammaton cleric binks
can sue the makers of this movie, and that will serve as a warning against putrid remakes.
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...in today's geopolitical climate, the "West" would recognize such a threat early and would move as quickly as possible to send humanitarian aid to Russia. Canada and the EU would have ship-loads of grain and fuel ready-to-go, not to mention any oil-producing nations in the middle east who wouldn't want to be identified with islamist terrorists, like Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, etc.
The world economy is simply too globalized for that many nations to allow nuclear war to break out.It's far more likely that a nation like Russia, or China, or North Korea, or Iran, would use the threat of a nuclear strike to blackmail the rest of the world.
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...my Wolverines gang...and we are going to keep YOU out. You will have to start your OWN wolverines gang...but you don't get to call it "Wolverines" or we will hunt you down and kill you for copyright infringement (I'm assuming that copyright infringement law will be a do-it-yourself type thing at this point). You will have to call your group the Squirrel-Eating-Hillbillies-ines or something. And my black friend and I will laugh at you.
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I got nothing.
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Charlie Sheen, Patrick Swayzy, Hind helicopters, RPG's, mountaintop tank battles in the snow. Could it get any better???
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I don't see this being much better. I could be wrong. Honestly ,if we were invaded by any country or even a fucking alien army in this day and age I doubt very seriously people would have time to argue about the color of each others skin as opposed to lining up to surrender,especially teenagers. Take away cell phone service and or internet access for two hours and most of society under 30 would be slitting there wrists and I can't really say i'm any better than they are.
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I mean what kind of remake won't show that? I wonder how comical the villains will be? Will they show them as humans as they did in RD or will they be more like Lucas's Preqeul Emperor "Cancel Christmas!!!" villain? Not knowing production on the remake I can't say but my guess it a movie with such unambiguous nationalistic aspects cannot possibly have a nuanced nor a remotely sympathetic villain (ala the Cuban Commander guy in RD) and thus the villain will be dumbass and this will suck the ass we all think it's going to suck.As usual tho...I'd be happy to be wrong...tho I can't say I care that much about this one either way...
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...would be to NOT attack the cities with large populations of armed black folk, like Los Angeles.
In the movie, the fictional country of Soviet Krapistan spends a couple of years smuggling weapons into the USA and Canada via Mexico, for delivery to the Crips, and the Bloods, and the Black Panthers, and La Rasa, and the American Indian Movement, and the government of Quebec, etc.
Then, Krapistan nukes the midwestern silos, as well as all the rural areas that are known to be hotbeds of survivalist sentiment, leaving the major cities alone, since they're full of college-educated, gun-control-loving, peacenik liberals anyway.
The USA still has its nuclear submarines, but has no real enemy nation to use them against.
In the middle of the chaos, all the evil dudes whose skin isn't downy white take advantage of the situation and all hell breaks loose.
The indians take control of large parcels of the American west. The gangs fight for control of the cities. The US military is thrown for a loop because they never prepared to fight against the USA's own citizens.
And Krapistan sits back and laughs.
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. . . why bother INVADING North America when there are PLENTY of Americans, Mexicans and Canadians who are angry and crazy enough to fight their own myriad little wars, effectively bringing North America to its knees.
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...at the height of Cold War paranoia. I have no idea how they'd do it now. If they use China as the invading country it won't go down well.
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...underwritten by European and Asian corporations, like TotalFinaElf, Gazprom, Nokia, Mitsubishi, Saab, Airbus, Bank of China, etc...
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. . . by an African-American Democrat. Booyah! You've got yourself a movie.
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The original sucked balls...
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you are either a)not an american or b) live in a cabin in bumfuck arkansa, because you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. time for you to go back and watch fox news.
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I mean...why not? Changing the racial make up to satisfy the PC crowd of 2009? Just add Perry and Cedric the Entertainer and get it over with.
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. . . maybe I'm both . . .
But seriously, I'm only talking about how to make a good "America-at-war" movie.
I'm not talking about how to ACTUALLY take over the USA. I'm keeping THAT information to myself (said while twirling my evil mustache). -
I don't think it was the wisest idea to hype fighting the PRC, given that:
1-we're actually in a period of *relative peace* compared to past decades; at the very least, nothing about military conflict
2-we're actually giant trading partners now, which leads me to...
3-they've got us bent over with our hands on our ankles, because the Baby Boomer generation sold us out and made bad trade deal after bad trade deal until we HAVE no "infrastructure" anymore, we're a service-based economy, and we're nearly a trillion dollars in debt to the "communists who don't believe in money!" -
I see your point, but I think even in the Soviet era the West would have sent aid and the USSR would have accepted if they were in dire enough straits... like in the Second War when the allies drove supplies across frozen ice to supply civilians and the military. Heck even at the height of the Cold War the USSR accepted international monetary and grain assistance from international bodies. Anyway, it will be intersting to see how they make "history" plays out in this remake.
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For an actual nation-state, nukes make an excellent bargaining chip but there's virtually no reason to actually go ahead and USE them.
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Russians are actually very much invasion-happy nowadays. Take Georgia, for example.
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...they're smart enough to only invade countries where they actually have a chance of winning. Re: Georgia.
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they are making serious changes to the char. that we remember, like Erica now being held prisoner that has to be rescued. Say what you will about the nationalism in the movie, the women in that movie were strong women. Making Erica a damsel in distress just doesn't work for me. Also making the mayor's son one of the Wolverines and from the sound of it more heroic. Why not make is a pesduo-sequel where it takes place in the same America that was overrun by the Russians however many years ago (20 some?) that would make sense for the location change (last I heard it was being changed to the Pacific Northwest right--and wasn't the west where they wanted to go in the original) would make sense for the different char. types but would give them new names and not be so compared to the original
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LOL! That was just a troll for the jackoff republicans on this site. Eat shit losers!
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I hereby grant you one of my coveted No-Prizes for coming up with the best idea so far.
The original never confirms how the war ends (one of the reasons I love the ending of that movie).
The national forest where the Wolverines camped out has been retaken by American forces, but we never find out if the Reds have been kicked-out, or if North American has been partitioned into a dozen or so smaller nation-states, or what.
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The world is under war fatigue. War movies are bombing (Hurt Locker) because in this never-ending war, economy collapsing world, audiences want escapist fun like vampires, sci fi, and fantasy.
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...and then read the Talkbacks to learn how to make them properly.
Like, imagine tomorrow Studio X announces that it's going to remake The Ice Pirates, or whatever.
The news breaks on AICN.
After the Talkbackers complain about what a terrible idea this is, a few start posting about how to salvage this turd of an idea and actually write a decent movie.
Unbenownst to us, the Studio X executives are madly scribbling away, stealing all our ideas, and handing them to the hack writers they've hired.
No need to pay us for the ideas since we post under pseudonyms.
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invading hoards of gentrifying yuppies. Call it "Red Manicured-Lawn."
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Does anyone know what the plot is suppose to be, because if it's set in modern times, the old one won't work. It doesn't make sense.
Just make a new movie about a modern civil war, cause the Colorado gun enthusiasts I know aren't exactly feeling threatened by Russia. They're more concerned about their own government (even back in the Bush days). Nor does a Chinese invasion make any sense at all.
There are, however, several states who are at least throwing around the notion of succession and the divide in this country is growing more extreme each month. It's curious that no one in Hollywood wants to touch that. I think it's because they just don't understand most of this country. But it could make for a fascinating movie, if done right. -
*Gif uz zee letterman's jacket, or vee vill shoot the fraulein, yes!*
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The questions your scenario raise that would have to be answered by the writers are:
- How would the rest of the "free world" react to a 2nd American Civil War?
- How would America's enemies, most notably Venezuela, react to a 2nd American Civil War?
- How would the writers get away with demonizing entire States? Demonizing "gun-loving whackos in their rural compounds" is easy. But a movie about actual succession would require A LOT of finesse. -
Easiest way to solve all these silly questions would be to just make a movie based on the first three Shadowrun novels.
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so basically models will now play the parts instead of regular janes and joes.
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...because if America gets invaded that guy is going to be irate. And if a foreign military takes control of this country, you know the very next thing they will want are our unskilled minimum wage jobs. Lew Dobbs will fight those motherfuckers....
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that aint gonna fly these days.
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Haley Joel Osment
Jonathan Lipnicki
Dakota Fanning
Macaulay Culkin
Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Any other former child star whose voice has only recently broken.
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...and the invaders are...just the rest of us, going about our business of being shacked up with one person.
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Alaska and Texas have both, in recent times, had talks of seccession. If a second civil war happened in the U.S. and foreign countries began to recognize the new countries because of say, the oil in Texas, you have a very interesting scenario. Further, you could have the drug cartels of Mexico taking over the southern tip of California (San Diego), Arizona and New Mexico. And as Maltheau said, Venezuala would surely throw it's hat in the ring somewhere. Suddenly you have a real movie instead of a rehash.
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and dont remakes suck balls?
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But there are actually some good ideas here. Bravo.
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an american civil war. red states vs blue states. the invasion of california by reno! cnn vs fox news.
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SO SCARY!!!! the only scary part would be dealing with all of their dead soldiers carpeting the ground and causing disease.
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...Rachel Maddow is my plucky leader whose courage and cleverness is inversely proportional to her diminutive size and strength. I'd follow her polite lesbian flag...
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It's actually a remake of The Mouse Who Roared. The real title is Red D'uhn.
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In 1984 something along the lines of Red Dawn seemed plausible because the Soviet military was huge. You weren't just talking Russia, but the entire Eastern Bloc and Cuba made it a possible scenario where the Soviet numbers would be just too much for the Americans. Now, because of the might of the U.S. Navy it's not possible. Any ship would be sunk in their harbor and any aircraft would be shot down hundreds of miles away. I don't see how you recreate this scenario without having everyone with one brain cell walk out of the theater in disgust.
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Phase One complete.
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..and played off a very overly simplified outsider's take of the past almost 8 years...One could be forgiven for thinking they already have a similar concept for this movie in recorded history...The 9/11 Attacks.Think about it...if you were a dumbass and incapable of thinking of all of the various aspects that played along, the economic collapse of the US could easily be seen as a victory for the jihad loonies due to the attack of 9/11.Much like the psuedo-repubs see Reagan as some sort of Super-Regan-Terminator whom single-handedly beat the USSR's ass so bad that they changed their fucking name back to Russia and said "Uncle" under Super-Reagans unrelenting cross body blocks and perfectly executed suplexes...you could argue from the lunatic viewpoint that attacking the US in so bold a manner was actually successful, in a manner of speaking...
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Every since I first head about this remake, I said "no way, don't even think about it" Now that I see that cast and see that at least one of the Mason sisters is a f'ing CHEERLEADER I say "no f'ing way"!!!! Plus they already know the boys cause they go to school with them and are already in a relationship with them?!?!!? Do the writers/directors these days ever hear of something called character building?? Come on! At least change the name of the movie so the original won't be compared to it in any way! Call it 90210 Dawn! Or Revenge of the Populars! or something.
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is it just me or when you click the "see whos playing him in the remake" and see a black guy... I don't think "oh he might be a good choice"... the first thing to comes to my mind is "Oh hes the token black actor chosen ONLY becuase hes black and they cant have an all white cast in 2009 becuase of PC bullisht?
it just aggravates me that even in the stale world of current movies where remakes are the rule, they can find ways to make it even crappier by making everything pc-friendly
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yeah, its such p.c. bullshit to cast black people in movies because, of course there are no black people in american society, and casting black people in movies would be so fake and unrealistic! (sarcasm, in case you yahoos didn't pick up on it.)
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I don't like it. They should start out by doing commercials like everybody else.
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i never said casting black people is fake and unrealistic... im saying that taking a white character and changing him to black for no reason other than to be PC is a huge part of why movies suck these days. its like they are scared to alienate the black audience if they use an all white cast like it was in the original. just wait, when the inevitable Outsiders remake comes and Pony Boy is played by Lil Wayne. And Patrick Swayzes role is playing by 50 Cent. Its gonna be awesome!!!
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No doubt it would require a lot of finesse. Ideally, it would find a way to insult both red and blue states equally. But there are more controversial movies out there, so why not?
And it's not just Texas and Alaska, there are at least 36 states out there with bills to reassert their 10th amendment rights. Some states are simply ignoring the feds on some things (marijuana for instance) and most are losing revenue to the federal government in a time where they can't afford to.
All it'll take is a major currency collapse and this country will fracture. It's just too ideologically split to keep going the way that it is. Gun sales are at record levels, ammunition is scarce. Politicians don't listen to the people or read the bills they pass and things are changing dramatically for the worse. Sooner or later, people will snap. And rather than pretending that it isn't out there, I'd like to see just one movie actually explore it in an adult fashion.
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this remake sounds lame as hell.
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The point of these remakes is so that A-list spawn can get acting gigs. The Kung Fu Kid is Will Smith's son, and now Connor Cruise is in the remake of Red Dawn. I still don't like it, but I see the motivation now. It's dynasty building.
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Aug 10, 2009 5:31:31 PM CDT
No...it still sounds stupid and pointless. And now looks that wa
by kevred
So Russia and China team up to invade us? I'd like to hear the explanation for that.When I clicked the link, I saw that original cast photo and charitably thought, "okay, so the original cast, relative to its day, probably looked like the same kind of generic pretty-faced bland types who populate every movie released today. Maybe the new bunch will be fine." Then I see their photos and read their descriptions, and I realize--no, the new ones are much worse. Even more blandly pretty, and worse, their characters all seem to be stripped of the originals' flaws and all seem to have heartwarming stories of maturing.The original cast was realistic in the sense of varying a lot in maturity, ability, and general screwed-up-ness. They weren't shiny and perfect, gave unpolished performances, and their flaws often caught up with them and caused major problems. This new flick sounds too bent on making us feel good about every single character.The only way for this to be any good would be for it to make points about what our country has become that are far too dangerous to say publicly in our Fox News-addled country. If they make an honest movie, Glenn Beck and his like will have crowds of people at every theater shouting so that no one can hear it.And if they don't make an honest movie, then this will be the pointless trash refurb it looks like. Tough assignment--good luck.
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Right now it's this: .
But in reality, only about 60 characters can come through on a subject line when posted, so the maxlength of 1024 is meaningless. So just change it to this:
And voila--problem solved in only a few seconds. And you'll probably also save a ton of wasted bandwidth, data transfer, and general clutter on your boards from people posting multiple times to complete their cut-off subject lines, correcting what their cut-off subject lines erroneously seem to say, etc.I've just saved you money and your readers a lot of time. You're welcome! -
So in simpler form, in the code for the Subject field of the talkback form, change this:
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to this:
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And *then*, voila!
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i laughed inappropriately at this comment
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I think the only way to get away with that idea would be to leave the successionist States nameless. It would be a cop-out, but State governments would be really pissed off if they were accused by Hollywood of being disloyal to the Union.
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...ain't correct spelling grand?
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Here's a cinematic secessionist scenario (alliteration!).
Mexico is thrown into violent civil war, initiated by the violent secession of Yucatan (which was an independent republic in 1840) and Chiapas (which borders Yucatan).
Feeling extremely threatened by the increased power of organized crime in the northern Mexican states, the governor of Texas begs the US government to take advantage of the situation by sending troops to occupy northern Mexico.
The US government says no because it doesn't want to be seen as imperialist, and because the northern Mexican states offer little of value to the USA.
So Texas takes matters into its own hands by ordering Texas Military Forces and the Texas Rangers to advance south.
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just thought i'd give another unsolicited opinion.
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America elects a black liberal president who outlaws gun ownership, leading to government goons forcibly rounding up the patriotic citizens who refuse to kowtow and throwing them in camps. Of course all this is just the first step in a liberal media-supported communist coup for the New World Order with the final goal being a world government, the banning of religion and compulsory gay marriage for all. The resistance is led by a group of photogenic, midwestern all-American rifle-toting teenagers.There, I've come up with a concept that's box office friendly (look at the numbers for Passion of the Christ after all), contemporary and best of all, it'll give all you racists a hard-on, since we all know it's only patriotic, conservative white Americans who really love their country, right? Right?
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No studio would greenlight that script.
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...your idea sounds perfectly plausible...except for the black liberal president part. You're a dreamer. Why not go all the way over the top into cinematic dreamland and have the succession forces led by a fat, villainous, cigar chomping, prescription medication addicted, megalomaniac radio host and his gun toting, shooting wolves from helicopters, ex-beauty pageant contestant, hockey-mom side kick with a messiah complex?
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Particularly like the last one. Could go full Milius, use the Alamo for symbolism, and have the Wolverines deliver the St. Crispus Day speech. What's funny is that Milius is so misunderstood, despite having an incredible sense of humor and being one of the all-time screenwriting greats. You may find this interesting:
http://www.theaspectratio.net/milius.htm
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Have the US military be the one that wants to advance into northern mexico, to secure US corporate holdings and mexican coal reserves, but Texas, with its large latino population, objects and tries to prevent US tanks from crossing the Texas border.
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...just to prove he's not biased one way or the other. Hehehe.
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and with that, Royston owns this talkback. Gold. Comedic gold.
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Connor Cruise auditioned just like everyone else and he just coincidentally happens to be the best choice to play a character that is white. Is there a Muslim? There has to be a Muslim too.
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Jake Lloyd as the ambitious JCR (Junior Canadian Ranger). And Wes Bentley as his hard-nosed, no-nonsense, rarely clean shaven commanding officer.
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... that Conner boy will make his closet-case of a daddy proud.
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I Love it!!!
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who stayed in the Philippine jungle for 30 or 40 years after his country had been nuked into surrender.
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It better not be fuckin Connor Cruise...
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...my childhood will be officially raped.
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But that would be pointless.Though pointlessness is the order of the day in wHollyweird.Oh, and thank ye, savagedave.
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She's going to make this movie almost worth seeing. But no, this is a waste of time... seriously, there's NO reason to update this movie. None. Go watch the original.
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Been fapping to her for three decades.
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I thought Thor was gonna play Dirty Dancing-man in this?
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Sure son! I'm a famous A-list actor and you're my son. I mean you're not my son by blood, but hey, you're free of Thetans and if you follow the ways of Scientology, like your old man, you'll be able to create entire planets & galaxies. So what's a little acting to someone who can take on the overlord Xenu. And hell, we can't let Will Smith be the only man who uses nepotism to get his kids in the biz.
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Gotta love the idiots on this TalkBack upset that two of the new cast members are BLACK.
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They should go for that title. The film is bound to be a pile of shit, anyway, so start with the title.
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You mean, "son of the test-tube", don't you?
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they're THE central characters and really, all this other casting is not that interesting UNTIL we know who they're playing opposite...
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Beau Bridges
Joanna Cassidy
Phil Hartman (RIP)
it was actually pretty good, from memory - BUT IT'S BEEN DONE
as fr this remake scenario, sorry but I just don't buy the Chinese being the "Reds" of the "Dawn" here - not if it's set modern day...
They're STILL relatively unscathed by the "Global" Economic Crisis - and besides they OWN a considerable portion of U.S. Foreign Debt - the proverbial breaking of the kneecaps to collect on a loan is not a part of international relations, trade or otherwise...
No I still like the RUSSKIES for this - more to the point, the CUBANS, as per the ORIGINAL -
for a start, Russia has ALREADY invaded Georgia (not the Ray Charles one) and performed some... err... "police actions" shall we say in Chechnya. With Putin well behind closed doors now, manipulating his new puppet president with impunity, I see them as a FAR more realistic aggressor in a modern day scenario than the Chinese - although I wouldn't rule out North Korea, except for maybe I don't see them having much in the way of ties with South America - but then again, maybe that's why they want this over in the western, Pacific end of the continent...?
Oh and don't forget Cuba also has a new leader now, tho I don't know much about him beyond the fact Castro kept it in the family so maybe there's nothing there really...
Also there are countries like Colombia and El Salvador where it may not necessarily be the ofFiciAL armed forces but rather a "rebel alliance" if you will that might be a realistic scenario?
then again, what the hell am I talking about, "realistic" - they can make it complete and utter bullshit and nobody (not even around here it seems!) would prob'ly even notice -
I read an article online concerning Cruise's son Connor that mentioned he will head to Detroit for the filming of the Red Dawn remake, so I guess in this remake the Wolverine's gang territory is urban.
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http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.reuters.com/tom-cruise39s-son-quotred-dawnquot-remake-reuters
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in the Pacific Northwest like Washington or Oregon or somethingthere's a book, written by a former TIME international writer, it's not particularly good but I like the idea behind it called WHEN THE ALMOND TREE BLOOMS or something like that, basically it's an unoffical sequel to RED DAWN where the east coast is controlled by the russian Communists who won the Cold War and the West is the free Americawhat's funny and I like about this 2nd American Civil War idea, is that it would most likely be the East Coast and the West Coast aligned with the midwest (probably Montana to Texas...parts of the south, etc) aligned against themany American Civil War idea needs to realize that we won't divide as neatly as we did in the 1800sanother state that has talked about breaking off, is the southern part of Kansas since the 80s has talked about breaking off and becoming at least another state
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Filming in Michigan is convenient right now because the state is offering great tax incentives to studios. Plus, Detroit is already a violence-riddled shithole that resembles a war zone. The production of "The Road," in an effort to shun CGI fakery, shot a lot of exterior scenes in post-Katrina New Orleans.
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Aug 11, 2009 8:00:33 AM CDT
Holy Fuck! As if I didn't need another reason to skip this.
by _maltheus_
"Dan Bradley, previously a second unit director on the two Bourne sequels and Quantum of Solace, will step up to direct. Bradley is known for his quickfire action sequences which were credited with helping to make Jason Bourne such a success."
Bourne was a success due the the FIRST movie's action sequences. This guy is largely responsible for trashing the series IMO. That last Bourne movie was unwatchable due to the quick edits. I had no idea what was going on. Between that style of filmmaking and the non-stop remakes, Hollywood can do no right these days. Fucktards all! -
As counter-intuitive as it seems, it was the other way around. The inconvenient truth is that Georgia advanced into Russian territory without cause, and Russia was fully justified in defending its territory.
Georgia was fully counting on the international community saying to itself, "what? The Russians are claiming that Georgia acted first? That's bloody insane! Russia MUST be lying!"
It sucks, but the evidence is pretty strong that's how it went down. -
Aug 11, 2009 9:38:45 AM CDT
New cast looks like a bunch of sissy Abercrombie models...
by sappers forward
The old cast was gritty, real, people I could relate to. The new cast looks like a bunch of prissy Abercrombie models. Bunch of sissy boys and mommas girls. Except that chick that was in Transformers. She's just plain smoke'n hot. But has no place in a movie like this. I can safely say, I most likely will not go see this. Only to preserve my fond memories of the original. Don't want to taint that with this B.S.
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Aug 11, 2009 9:40:09 AM CDT
maybe the American auto companies take over the U.S.
by just pillow talk
Screaming "Caaaash fooooor cluuuuuunkersssss!" instead of Wolverine.
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I say I like your idea and then you shit on nearly everything I added. No shit it's not just Alaska and Texas but they are the main states with the oil (I thought I made that point clear, at least with Texas). And if there was a secession and a foreign power wanted to recognize the countries that seceded, you can bet your ass that military aid would be included. It always has been as far as American History is concerned. When the colonies seceded from Britain it was France's recognition of the U.S.A. and sending a large naval support that helped win the war. I don't think the secessionists would be more worried about p.r. over independence.
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... England had a European war to fight, so it was folly to devote too many resources to suppressing the Americans.
By extension, for any "2nd Civil War" story to make any sense, there should be some external factor that prevents Washington from devoting its full energies to the State(s) in question.
So, here's another scenario: Much of the USA's forces are fighting overseas in an unnamed country, in a war that is supported by the UN and fought with NATO support.
Washington will not bring back the draft, so in order to meet its obligations it draws heavily upon State militias and National Guard units.
At the same moment, Mexico collapses due to a combination of drought, Venezuelan support for separatists in Yucatan, Tabasco, and Chiapas, and the strength of drug cartels in the North.
California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas struggle to defend the southern border from a flood of refugees, narco-paramilitaries, and Mexican troops chasing pursuing guerillas across the border.
So when Washington tries to call up guardsmen from these four States to send them overseas, the governors say, "are you kidding me?!"
Washington considers this an act of insurrection. Some American corporations choose to fund the secessionists because they own factories in northern Mexico, and because Mexico has large coal reserves near the border.
Bango, you've got yourself a Cinematic Second Civil War. -
Looking at the territory geographically, the area is actually Georgian. However, ethnically, there are many Russian citizens, and there has been a movement to secede from Georgia, and attach to Russia. The Georgians upped the military presence to quash this, and the Russian military attacked multiple Georgian targets under the pretext of keeping the Georgian military from harming Russian citizens. To borrow from The Stand miniseries "Think of it as home defense, when you are on the road."
That said, the Georgians could have anticipated the Russian reaction, and ought to have upped their polic presence in Ossetia slowly, rather than rolling in Armor. -
I wasn't shitting on what you added, all I said was I wasn't sure that foreign countries would intervene. Most countries wouldn't want to antagonize Washington and the secessionists wouldn't likely welcome support from the "rogue" nations that would like to piss off D.C. Secessionist types aren't exactly warm and fuzzy towards communist and Islamic regimes. A war such as this, in this day and age, would indeed be mostly about the P.R. because that's how Americans fight wars (on both sides).
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Aug 11, 2009 11:53:42 AM CDT
A movie with Wolverines in it SHOULD have Hugh Jackman!
by mrmysteryguest
He can play the pilot Powers Boothe played in the original!
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After all, the whole concept is "full retard". A jingoistic cold war piece meant to drum up fear, hate, nationalism and support for a larger military all at the same time. But, if this was done as satire it could be very good.
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...a computer virus or a cyber attack of some sort.
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... communists. America hasn't changed that much, as it?
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It's called the Bush administration.
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little kids trying to act tough!BTW how many legit actors did TomCruise son screw over just get this part??? This kid hasn't even acted before and hed taking jobs from someone who might need the money!
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Muscle up if you're going to fight a war.
Hollyweird ponces! -
somebody needs to buy that man A FRIGGIN TRIPOD!!
Royston, yeah Georgia made the first move - but they did NOT move on Russia - at least not any part of Russia internationally recognised as such - they moved to stop the secession of the self-proclaimed
Independent Republic of South Ossetia"
The Russians saw it as a great excuse to completely TRASH Georgia on the one hand, while telling the rest of the world (who were eager to believe and not make a fuss) they were somehow responding to aggression, on the other hand...
to add a little more context, Georgia inherited a respectable nuclear arsenal after the breakup of the Soviet Union and is very much interested in becoming part of NATO. It has close ties to the US (Bush Administration, at the time) and WAS (possibly STILL IS) negotiating the installation of a US (NATO) BASE on Georgian soil.
this would be like the Soviets putting a base on, say.. Cuban soil...
OF COURSE Putin (err... I mean Russian President Medvedev) would invade Georgia (which they DID - ALL THE WAY TO THE CAPITAL) and hit strategic targets in the process - especially given such a great excuse as "protecting Russian citizens" in a CIVIL WAR he really had no business getting involved in
he's not stupid - in fact he can play Politics with the best of them - and I'm gonna include the Chinese in there
so... question is... would the Russkies get involved in SOME OTHER conflict they really have nothing to do with, on some similar THIN pretense, that gave them the EXCUSE to trash AMERICAN military targets, while AVOIDING a full scale nuclear conflict because the rest of the world would really prefer to turn a BLIND EYE?
no surely not...
no I can't see why any anyone would think about a Red Dawn remake right now...
not now -
I dig that scenerio what you did was set up a nice first act, or even prologe in the first 10 min. Over the opening credits you show a series of clips of troops fighting inter cut with news reporters/talking heads talking about the war overseas. Then first act you have the set up in Texas/New Mexico/Arizona/California, 3rd act you go into full Red Dawn tribute modewith the US taking over a Texas border town...maybe a TX/LA border town like Tyler, show the kids/milita members who escaped training on the run learning making their way across Texas...maybe up into OK where there are sympathizers but also Washington forces
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http://www.beforethetrailer.com/2009/09/red-dawn-2-filming-updates-for-september-1/
Beforethetrailer.com has the latest Red Dawn 2 updated filming locations and set pics.
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