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Is A HALO Movie Getting Closer?? Possibly So...
Merrick here...
IESB is reporting that Steven Spielberg has taken a serious shine to Stuart Beattie's spec adaptation of Eric Nylund's HALO novel THE FALL OF REACH (available HERE
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IESB has learned exclusively (believe me this is solid and I've confirmed it three times over with studio executives and our close ties to CAA) that one of the biggest producers in Hollywood history is currently in active negotiations to develop the feature film adaptation and no it's not Jerry Bruckheimer or Peter Jackson. It's the man behind Jaws, E.T., Indiana Jones and Transformers, Mr. Steven Spielberg.
Spielberg is blown away by writer Stuart Beattie's take on the game in his script entitled HALO THE FALL OF REACH. This coupled with the fact that his Dreamworks umbrella is looking for a big tent pole to help launch their newly independant studio with distribution over at Walt Disney Pictures after losing Transformers to Paramount in the separation, it's the perfect combination.
...says IESB HERE.
You can find more information about Beattie's FALL OF REACH efforts by starting HERE, then backtracking to previous posts which feature Latino Review's fine coverage of the project.
I saw DISTRICT 9 last night and my first reaction was that it would reignite interest in a HALO movie. At the time, I was imagining a film by Neill Blomkamp (director of DISTRICT 9), who was to direct a Peter Jackson-produced HALO adaptation before it spun into oblivion a few years back. When I said this, I was unaware that Spielberg, Beattie, and CAA were headed down this particular (unrelated) road.
Although, if Spileberg's gonna be producing & not directing a potential FALL OF REACH...and if D9 is a success...perhaps Neill could still factor into the HALO equation? In case you don't recall (or missed it completely when it started making the rounds), here's the proof-of-concept reel Blomkamp put together for his HALO interpretation:
Spielberg is blown away by writer Stuart Beattie's take on the game in his script entitled HALO THE FALL OF REACH. This coupled with the fact that his Dreamworks umbrella is looking for a big tent pole to help launch their newly independant studio with distribution over at Walt Disney Pictures after losing Transformers to Paramount in the separation, it's the perfect combination.
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I hope so.
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First.
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Very good & sometimes excellent.
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if they throw enough money Neil will make the halo movie, he's only human after all and perfectly susceptible to selling his soul to satan
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We had it in the other Spielberg thread.
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International Trailer for The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus!
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were justifiable.
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Bay is already in Spielberg's Office to talk about royalty percentages from this franchise
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I don't think Spielberg would be right for a Halo project. It would just be more of a "star vehicle" move on his part. Except I guess you'd call it a "Director vehicle."
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I'd love to see Spielberg direct it himself.
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SS likes Caruso a lot as well after he delivered big hits for him with Disturbia and Eagle Eye. Still - Blomkamp might be the best bet, since SS is now in bed with Peter Jackson with Tintin.
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Wait, what?
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but since he won't we can expect the usual two losers: Michael Bay and D.J. Caruso. And if Stuart Beattie had his way i'm sure he'd pick Stephen Sommers since he seems to be directing all of his scripts.
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fuck him and his happy endings
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Don't people here cream over him?
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Spielberg doesn't strike me as the right fit for a Halo movie. I guess if he has a real passion for the source material, it could turn out great... but right now I'm not seeing it. Though he -did- do a bang-up job on that other war movie... what was it again, Something About Ryan? ;)
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He has officially said in many interviews now that he is no longer interested in doing the Halo movie. His feeling is that they screwed him over and that he has no desire to tread the waters in which he was savaged by such sharks.
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Yes they do, but he's booked out for the next 1 years.
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Oh yeah, That Hobbit thing might keep him a little busy
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I thought this would be something special, not the same old stuff we've seen before. >Yawn<
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It's going to be a futuristic CADDYSHACK.
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Never underestimate the pull of Spielbergo.
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I saw it. And I think it looks absolutely nothing like the game, and looks pretty terrible in its own right. Halo is Half Life down with the glossy style of 70's sci-fi. Everyone said Weta made some great Halo mock-ups, but that video is a terrible representation of Weta's usual potential. That being said, I'm all for D9.
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PLEASE PUNCH ME? Thanks.
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... directed by Ridley Scott.
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Who screwed him over? Big studios wanted to screw with the franchise, Microsoft said they wanted to protect Halo and make sure the video represented their IP. Microsoft was protecting him. They just didn't get funding.And this drives me insane. A studio wants to fork over big bucks to purchase a license because it has a built-in fan base, and then alienate the fan base with changes that make zero sense. Remember the studios licensing Doom then demanding the movie not deal with demons, and not take place on Mars? Do you realize what you're licensing?
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Metal Gear Solid
Half Life
Halo
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Never underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden State.
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VERY close to the videogame.
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direct, no matter who the director. I've wanted him to do it ever since I saw Alive in Joubourg. And I have the utmost faith that District 9 will be the greatest scifi film of the decade.
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...but it sure smells good!
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The Harry Knowles Story.
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It won't suck as much cock as the Final Fantasy movie that came out awhile back.
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Aug 08, 2009 7:03:57 PM CDT
del toro shouldve directed deathly hallows
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
and cuaron wanted to come back but wb got gay and wouldnt let him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 08, 2009 7:05:00 PM CDT
sign me up for ridley scotts gears of war
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
sounds cum-tastic
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I will see either part of Harry Potter 7 after what they did with 6. Seriously? They had terrible test screenings and I assumed they'd fix the end with a 9 month delay. But no, they destroyed the ending. And frankly, book 6 was the last good book. I don't think I'd sit and watch part 7 for free.
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Stop watching Lost and learn about filmmaking.
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...growing on me recently...I might just have to dig out the old XBox.
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...of money and that the studio powers that be gnaw their black fucking hearts out for letting the whole thing fall apart. I want to hear about sleepless nights, gnashing of teeth and eventual descents into major depression and substance abuse.
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The footage is everything HALO is not. Halo needs to be directed by Speilberg.
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cause that's the spirit that HALO needs to be. Not cheesy in any way to pull it off.
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...is that its failure inspired District 9. Hey, maybe Spielberg will give up on Halo and make another masterpiece...he's overdue as it is. Halo is Starship Troopers or Aliens adapted to a video game...and despite my thought that it's a bit overrated, Halo IS a pretty damn good game. To regurgitate it into a movie (an undoubtedly PG-13 movie) is a pre-emptive FAILURE.
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The Julia Child movie will hit bigger than this mess.
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despite your negativity, you may be right. Children of Men was an intelligent, dark, and even action-packed (partially) critical darling that Joe Sixpack didn't know what to do with either. This will make a LOT more money on DVD than it will in the theater.
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Hey, yeah, I agree. I'm not trying to be negative though because I will see it. I just don't think it will do good business.
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...but let's face it, like most great games it's a pastiche of ideas from other mediums, in this case mostly movies. To then try to flip it back into an original or worth while movie seems like a stretch...
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there's no way this movie can be good. EOM
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Aug 08, 2009 8:03:04 PM CDT
WHY DON'T SPIELBERG/JACKSON PRODUCE, BLOMKAMP DIRECT?
by carlthormark1978
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It will turn out like GI JOE, and then everyone will make fun of it, and hate it.
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The most obvious gaming franchise choice for a movie...as obvious as Transformers...with generations of fans...continues to be ignored.
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Actually I think Halo steals from Half Life more than anything.
Half Life was a FPS where you wear this power armor, and fight aliens, including this headcrab things that latch onto people turning them into effective zombies.
And for all the credit that Halo gets, Half Life was a much better game, and came YEARS earlier. It just happens that Halo was a console game, and for many people, their first experience at playing a FPS against several of their friends. They ignore the boring, repetitive levels. -
Metroid? How much do we know about that universe? Every fanboy will have their own interpretation, but the universe is up in the air enough that the studios will invent something silly and insane that we'll all hate. I expect it to be on part with the Super Mario Brothers movie.
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Aug 08, 2009 8:24:04 PM CDT
REAL PROBLEM = WHAT ARE THE THEME'S OF A HALO MOVIE?
by carlthormark1978
Aliens was badass but at the heart of it was Ripley overcoming her fears to protect the child that she came to love as her own. Starship Troopers was a satire about war and fascism. But what is Halo really about? Master Chief is basically devoid of character and, being a video game, the whole thing is just an excuse to go to planets, blast the shit out of aliens and blow the fuck out of everything in sight. What would be the theme’s and subtext of a Halo movie unless, of course, you’re just looking for a shot’em up?
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Aug 08, 2009 8:33:09 PM CDT
SPIELBERG PRESENTS, A MICHAEL BAY FILM, PONG THE MOTION PICTURE!
by carlthormark1978
Scribbled by Orci and Kutzman, starring LaBeef as a stuttering geek, called upon by DESTINY to fight a revolution while earning the love of the hottest dead eyed zombie fuckdoll on the planet, Megan Fox. 3 hours of explosions, racism and military hardware in 3-D with a 500 million dollar budget and state of the art FX so photorealistic that James Cameron himself will literally piss and shit his pants while ejaculating with joy!!!
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...I didn't have the hardware to play the first HALF-LIFE at the time, but I played the last one...the one with the gravity gun. One of my personal favorites was the old UNREAL GOLD package...that game was huge. Actually, a lot of what I'm seeing from AVATAR reminds me of that game.
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Raped it with a sandy penis. I fucking hate you Yates.
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...a memorable and enduring game experience.
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I fucking loved those games (looking forward to part three in 2010) and I was hoping that the movie would have been a really good, hard-boiled, noir action film. Then they cast Marky Mark and I knew it was not meant to be. I still play the games usually once a year.
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Aug 08, 2009 8:48:19 PM CDT
still waiting for the movie thats better than the game
by stonedwriter88
highly doubt this will be it.
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...random starving orphans from India...FUCK YOU.
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Aug 08, 2009 8:54:59 PM CDT
Judge Briggs, THEY DIDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN THE TITLE, HALF-BLOOD PRI
by carlthormark1978
We see Snape tell Harry that he’s the Half-Blood Prince but we don’t even fucking learn what that means?!? They could have easily fixed that by, in the last scene with Harry/Hermione and Ron in the tower, having Ron ask “why did he call himself the Half-Blood Prince?” at which point Hermione could have explained it. Literally two minutes of dialogue is all that it would have taken to fucking explain the goddamn meaning of the title of the fucking movie. Also, Yates knows how to shoot and has a good eye but he doesn’t know how to make the whole thing feel like it’s tied together. It’s like he’s got all these great individual scene’s but they don’t gel into a satisfying whole. I think Goblet of Fire was much better then either of the last two. Furthermore, Order of the Phoenix had my favorite photography of the entire series and HBP looked fucking terrible as the entire thing was color corrected to shit. The whole movie had three color palettes, cold blue/white/black, golden orange/yellow and milky white/green. Some people complained that there wasn’t enough action but that didn’t bother me as, having read the book, I was hoping for a dramatically heavy movie which is what I got but it didn’t come together as well as it should have. I was glad that they got rid of the battle at the end but dismayed that they threw in that pointless scene where the Weasly’s house got attacked. So much about the movie was soo good but for some reason I can’t say I’d recommend it unlike Azkaban and Goblet which I loved.
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Don't you know that? X-Box owners are dbags! F Halo!
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I aint seen it (am in Sydney and its only out next week. But now I just gotta know when I have seen it!
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I would make love to that movie.
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An 'a' snuck it's way into that post. Forget you saw it. I stand by my declaration of love (lust) for HP6, though.
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I saw D9 Thursday night. Found it highly enjoyable, and unlike any movie I've ever seen. Great effects dark humor, and a really original story. A must see for all people that read AICN.
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....I'd rather Spielberg turned his attention to the likes of this than that damned 'Harvey' project!
That Neill Blomkamp clip featured some neat visuals, but it sure could have done with a better, meatier score behind it to add some oomph to the mix.
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Half-Blood Prince is an entertaining movie with plenty of charm. I think a lot of that has to do with actors who are very familiar and comfortable with each other. That being said, it is a terrible adaptation.
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Having read that, I would still make love to it.
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If not for its Holocaust subject matter, it wouldn't have been given the pass it was given, all the rave reviews and what not--and the same with Saving Private Ryan, however, The Terminal was great, and the only Spielberg film since Raiders and E.T. that has a heart and a since of joy and wonder.
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if you think about it.
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read the wiki plot. This will suck as a film. Get to Halo or tell a new origin story. kidnapped children- becuase they had beter genetic markings than others- taken young so they could be shaped better- clones left ion thier place that get sick and die. All for a program called Spartan 2, a program created to stop rebelions against the united nations space command- which is us and we become that because we discover warp speed and we systematically take over planets. Eventual we piss off the covenent. They declare war on our race. They start killing us in massive numbers. Our weapon tech is crap compared to theirs. We try to keep earths location quiet. We even blow up one of our own ships thats travelling that way to insure it. The Covenent attack a new system called Sigma Octanus 4. We fight them off- we find out that they were looking for an acient glyphs. We decode the last transmission they recieved before they retreated. This leads us to the Halo system and we are attacked and we have to crash land on it. That's the entire movie in a nutshell, and it's very dull.
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thanks. good night.
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Aug 08, 2009 9:59:23 PM CDT
Doom - Demons = shit. Halo - Aliens won't happen. Don't worry.
by anything but tangerines
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before Spielberg hires Michael Bay. Btw that concept film was pretty cool, never saw it before.
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I know he locked down the rights. How about he do that first?
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.....shut the fuck up!
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HOW ABOUT "SHOOTING" LINCOLN FIRST GDIT!!!
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MAKE IT HAPPEN!!
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.....it's LIAM you fuck up!
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awwwwwwheeeelllllll yeah!
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Michael Bay is announced as director. You know its gonna happen. Ugh...
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Starring Robin Williams as Master Chief and Julia Roberts as Cortana.Can't you just taste the sugar?
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Believe it!
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after watching that, I think I'd root for the aliens. It just seems soulless and testosterone-drunk.
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Just about anything can sound dull when reduced to that sort of summary. The book itself is quite an enjoyable read.
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That dude has his name attached to a shit load of movies. Maybe, he's just over-compensating for Indy 4.
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What about Catch Me If You Can? Minority Report was a GREAT film with a little unnecessary happy ending thrown in at the end. But keeping with Dick's sensibilities, it did have the little text epilogue noting the number of murders the next year.Oh, and then he made Munich which is fucking incredible and underrated. And the first two thirds of War of the Worlds were absolutely incredible. I think it tops Jurassic Park as far as roller coaster ride films go. It is a shame the last third of War of the Worlds fell to pieces.
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He also sits on 10 movies at once that he won't make and eventually gives up on most of them.
Wasn't he sitting on Akira at one point? Right now he has Tintin, Indy V (which he and Ford have said they're trying to get a script for), Lincoln biopic, Harvey, The Pacific, Chocky, Matt Helm, Trial of Chicago 7, When Worlds Collide, The Talisman, Old Boy, Cowboys and Aliens, Interstellar, Call of the Wild, I am Number 4, 39 Clues, Transformers 3, and now this.This is the same guy who immediately bought Memoirs of Geisha, sat on it for a decade and then finally let someone else do it. -
I'm pretty sure he said that during Comic Con. And, really, can you blame him? He basically got fucked over by the studio who continually staled the project and, quite frankly, never had any faith in him to begin with. If District 9 - which looks seriously bad-ass - is a success, and the studio does try to get him back on the project, I hope he tells them to suck the juiciest part of his cock and drink down the creamy nectar.
Also, if they do move forward with a HALO movie, I hope to Christ they don't put "HALO" anywhere in the title. Don't approach or market it as a goddamn videogame movie, but just as a rich science fiction/action/war movie. -
And aren't Spielberg and Hanks producing the Band of Brothers follow-up set in the Pacific Theater?
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We could've had 10 movies by now. EFF THAT!!
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He seems like an interesting director, but that HALO short film looked like the offspring of ALIENS and SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. Those are great movies to be inspired by of course, but we end up with a really derivative movie.
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Everything that was ever right about Indiana Jones was done by George Lucas. Everything that was ever wrong was done by Steven Spielberg. The original Raiders brainstorming sessions proved that beyond ANY shadow of doubt. As far as Halo is concerned, Master Chief better be seven feet tall. That is all.
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but Blomkampf needs to be doing this, period.
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It's a catchy song...don't know how they can make a movie out of it!
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CarlThorMark - It's a little more than just going places and blowing stuff up. There's the mystery of the rings/forerunners/flood, religious and philosophical issues with the covenant (the human race is facing extinction at the hands of religious zealots). Saying there's absolutely nothing to it other than shooting aliens and blowing stuff up just means you haven't been paying attention.
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the same spielberg who did indy4? the same one who cant come up with anything else lately but a remake of oldboy? a remake of harvey? a clone of bourne? the same guy who doesnt dare to take a chance with a new actor but cast big name stars after big name stars?
if those projects are the best you could come up with, then please just retire already before you embarass yourelf further. if district 9 is really as good as i've heard, then that first time director deserves whatever big projects he wants to make, halo included. -
and spielberg actually offered michael bay the transformers movie. talk about integrity. the once best blockbuster director has to resort to hiring the worst blockbuster director around to make a loud dumb action movie??? peter jackson searches out new unproven talent. spielberg chose to work with micheal bay. you do the math.
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GIANT PIG!!!
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Can someone please explain to me why it is that I have watched A.I. about four times, despite the fact that it is an appalling movie with terrible acting and probably lets down Spielberg's whole body of work?
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You have no idea how depressing it is for me that statment. Feels like some nasty and cruel joke.
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You could not be more wrong about AI. The reeason why you keep watching it, and watched it 4 times already, is because deep down you know its a really very good movie, but you are still under the influence of the kool-aid. Answer me this, please: did you liked Jar Jar Abram's Dawson Trek?
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Full of " I have no style so will use Shaky-Cam" . Geez , guess he didn't get the memo that Shaky-Cam is a huge cop-out and cliche. And he'd probably make sure the score had lots of female moaning and wailing . District 9 may be good, haven't see it but- the Halo short - looks bad. Directors used to be able to stage good action...now they just shake the camera like a monkey on speed
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That is pretty obviously an advertisement for a game. There are Halo 3 logos all over it.. they say master chief all the f'in time. You idiots who fault the use of shaky cams in films should realize the damn thing is an action setpiece for one of the biggest advertising campaigns of all time.
And while I'm sure the producers of that ad are flattered that it was mistaken for a proof of concept reel, why would the movie be called Halo 3??? Why not just Halo? Or Reach or somesuch.
Come on people... have you not seen the other ads for this game?
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u can bet on it
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He'll start off the movie as a Golem, then switch to Moses on the fly at the end of the second act. BOX OFFICE, BUBULA!
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I though A.I. was a pretty good movie up until Haley Joel Robot jumps off that ledge into the water and gets carried to the blue fairy. Even then, it if would have ended with him begging to be a real boy, it would have been good... but the whole future robot/happy ending that got tacked on ruined the film.
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This has been said time and again, but the ending of AI was Kubrick's own creation. And the theme of the movie is in the ending, while also creating an ironical reversal of what went before. Besides, the ending is creepy like hell, and anybody who thinks it's a sentimental coup out didn't payed attention.
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...probably because you're drunk.Happened to me with 'Armageddon' several times...
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Since AI, it's just been a downward spiral. No doubt this'll be mediocre at best and God-awful drek ALA Craptal Skullfuck at worst. I seriously think the man has Alzheimer's or something...
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ideas and styles.SS has offered the best for the movie industry,but its time to leave room for the new generations of storytellers.
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Aug 09, 2009 11:31:54 AM CDT
REMEMBER WHEN SPIELBERG USED TO PRODUCE GOOD MOVIES?
by carlthormark1978
I'm talking about the 80's when his company made movies like Gremlins, Poltergeist, Back to the Future, Goonies and Who Framed Roger Rabbit. It used to be about finding new talent and giving them a shot. Now he's working with Michael Fucking Bay, the biggest hack working today. The Berg has lost his soul.
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but the whole idea is still retarded.
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Everyone knows you can't star the first movie called "Fall of Reach". This is going to have to be retitled "The Rise of Reach" or "Halo:The Beginning". Fall of Reach sounds like the second movie when everything goes to hell, but won't have a real ending because it has to pick right up in the third movie. God, when did Hollywood forget it's own formula from 15 minutes ago?
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http://newsblaze.com/story/20090807123235mill.nb/topstory.html
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Aug 09, 2009 12:03:18 PM CDT
The thought of Spielberg producing Halo really scares me.
by angelus_420
Just look at how he f'ed up the Transformers. If Spielberg directs Halo then fine I think it will be good but if he hands it over to people like Micheal Bay and those goofs that wrote the final scripts for the past two Transformer movies then it will be a disaster.
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After Spielberg professed his longtime "love" of Transformers and then stood by and assisted in fucking it up beyond repair, nothing he says matters anymore cuz it's just the same old hollywood bullshit.
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as it were. He normally stands there with his arms crossed, swaying his knees proprietorialy from left to right, chewing gum purposefully like a gamecoach, and only breaking from this routine to nod curtly to a passing senior tec or someone, usually grunting "uh huh" at the same time. Once an hour he will look closely at his watch and touch his earpiece to show that he's listening to hear for the ever-present fluttering of banknotes accumulating somewhere in the background. Usually he will have lunch alone around two, before jerking off in his trailer for ten minutes, then resuming his position, always two feet in a different direction to stay one step ahead of those pesky anti-semite snipers.
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well it has,but MS with Bungie butchered it,with their two dreadful incomplete sequels.
And thats the problem i have with these movie news.MS,unlike Blizzard, who own the rights of the franchise,dont seem to care for the quality of their own products,which means there will be no quality control over Spielbergs artistic/production choices.
I wont be suprised if we see in the movie,Tom Cruise wearing the spartan suit,with the helmet off,smiling at the camera.
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Those people who slate District 9 also rate Jar Jar Abram's Dawson Trek horrible piece of shit movie very highly. So, excuse me if i give those guys absoltuly no credence whatsoever. And that "review", that's not a review, that's a rambling mess. Fuck that shit!
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they loved Indy 4! Fucking 'nuff said!! This people's opinions are as worthy as shit! When morons like this retards bash a movie, that means it has to be pretty good. I mean, this retards also slated There Will Be Blood. And this fucking clowns call themselves movie critics? More like assclowns! Fucking retards!
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Apart from the Milkshake confrontation. It was all about NCFOM that year, way superior film.
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although NCFOM didnt deserve the oscar but anyway.the jewish loby of the academy spoke.
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...are sub-par films. In fact, a couple of those are outright horrible and clear indicators of a decline in Spielberg's filmography. The man attaches himself to too many projects (ala Ridley Scott) and shoots/edits them on an assembly line-type schedule (INDY 4, anyone?).Nope. With the exception of a few set-pieces, those films are definitely on Spielberg's downslope.
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Watching the BluRay, it seems the only thing Spielberg had to do with that movie was hiring Michael Bay and insisting they cast Shia. Other than that, he didn't really touch the film.
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...scares me more than HALO. At least GITS has a ton of story, character development, and has established itself as a highly influential property.HALO, on the other hand, is nothing more than a popular video game that would translate into an effects heavy action movie that may or may not concern itself with story and/or characters.Yeah, I'm definitely more worries about what The Berg is going to do with GITS.
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Same goes for Gay-Bay.
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Here, take this sacred amulet. When the time comes, hurl it into his jaws and it will take him back from whence he came. To his bedroom as a sulky 12 year old listening to a divorcing mum n dad argue downstairs. But this time he will be a dribbling mong, and will most likely stick his toy shark up his ass rather than play with it in the bathtub, getting ideas for future movies.
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As reported by Joystiq and Kotaku... go Google it.
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My interview with the director of Black Dynamite:
http://tinyurl.com/l9w2n6
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This coming from the asshole that slams the new Trek, but likes The Motion Picture.
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Didn't Halo steal his ideas anyway?
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He's a genius, and I think he'll do "Halo" alot of justice.
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Aug 09, 2009 3:52:13 PM CDT
ArmedNDrunk AND ominus, I DIDN'T LIKE EITHER TWBB OR NCFOM....
by carlthormark1978
I can’t believe people were slobbering over either of those two highly overrated movies. Both had great acting but the stories were shit. People were creaming over TWBB and I don’t understand why because I thought it was tedious not to mention the incredibly annoying score comprised of screeching noise. People sometimes mistake “slow” for being “good” and I wish that Paul Thomas Anderson would learn to make his own movies and stop copying other Directors given that Boogie Nights was his Scorsese, Magnolia his Altman, Punch Drunk Love his Ashby and TWBB was obviously his Malick. NCFOM was supremely irritating as well as it had one of the dumbest fucking protagonists that I can remember outside a Michael Bay film. Llewelyn Moss couldn’t be any more of a fucking retard if he tried. He makes one fuck up after another and I was glad when he got killed, my only regret was that the Coen’s thought they were being clever by switching the narrative around the way they did which prevented us from seeing him blown out of his fucking ten gallon hat. Like I said, both movies had great acting but the stories were terrible. My favorite mainstream movie of 2007 is still American Gangster and I can’t believe that a quality piece of work like that got ignored by the Academy.
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I liked TWBB, but that bored me about half way through it. There was not ONE likable character in that entire movie. Painful.
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That would be a much better film. Also Halo's quite overrated. Also if lockesbrokenleg is excited for it, abandon hope.
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NCFOM and TWBB were tedious?! If you were talking about THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES, I might agree with you. Otherwise...no.And the Coens didn't switch shit in terms of the narrative. What they did was practically verbatim - Moss met his end just like he did in the book. Obviously, you did not read it.AMERICAN GANGSTER was pedestrian at best. That goes for all the talent involved. The film's direction and performances never caught fire and that's probaby why it got ignored by the Academy.
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thank you for the chuckles....your, ahem, "analysis" of those movies was the funniest thing I've read in a while. you are adorable. thank you sir.
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Which means i'm not one of those kool-aid drinkers. And that's a virtue. At least i know a good Star Trek movie when i see one. A real good one. Jar Jar Abram's Dawson Trek is an horrible retarded piece of shit, and nothing will chance that.
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In one fell swoop, Neil Blomkamp has proven himself after his first feature, that not even a major blockbuster property like HALO is good enough for him. He is the real deal, the greatest newest director to come out of nowhere for generations. Mark my words, he will be bigger and better than Spielberg.
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No Country For Old Men, There Will Be Blood and The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford. Good movies like those are never boring. You got your movie geek credentials revoked if you cannot understand why.Another movie that has a reputation for being slow and boring by the lazerbrains, but which in fact is wholesome enthralling from begining to end: Che Part 1.
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Is one of the best movies of the last 10 years and one of the greatest adaptations ever.
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If Blomkamp can catch lightning in a bottle on a streak that parallels JAWS, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, E.T., and SCHINDLER'S LIST you might not be talking out of your ass. So, try not to get ahead of yourself there...
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THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES was boring. Shamefully so considering all it had going for it. Deal with it.BTW - I enjoyed STAR TREK and I expect to really enjoy DISTRICT 9. Does that blow you mind?
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So what if there isn't any likable characters in a movie? So fucking what? that doesn't mater in the slightest. What matters is if the characters are interesting. INTERESTING! If they are likable of not, that's a detail that is not even worth a fart. Besides, what is likable for some might be detestable for others. I'm reminded of Tom Cruise's character he played in Top Gun. Many though he was cool and likable, i though he was an unsufferable bastard. and wors,t he was not interesting either, which is the biggest sin a character as created can have.Fuck likable characters, bring me interesting ones.
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Aug 09, 2009 4:41:56 PM CDT
Blomkamp should get first shot at this, awesome trailer, flawles
by killakane
Love his approach, amazing eye and innate knack of adapting verite to Sci-fi, gritty and real. Superb, hope Spielbberg is savvy enoguh to solicit Blomkamp (would'nt surprise me if Jackson is orchestrating this whole deal).
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The only thign that blows my mind is stupidty like your persistence in calling me "AssimovLives".That you liked Jar Jar Abram's Dawson Trek abomination piece of shit movie just means you drank the kool-aid. Nothing terribly impressive about that, quite the contrary. It'sd the easiest thing in the word to be a kool-aid drinker.The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford is a mesmerising, enthraling, fascinating, extremely well made and acted movie, and such movies are not boring. Ever! Good movies are never boring. Never!
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...that Michael Bay is gonna make this movie. Of this there can be no doubt. I predict an opening weekend of half a trillion dollars. It's a fucking shame, it really is.
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Aug 09, 2009 4:48:31 PM CDT
AssimovLives - did you read my review-post of STAR TREK...
by mr. nice gaius
...back when the movie first came out? It was hardly a kook-aid drinker review. I think you overestimate your hand with regards to commenting on that movie and you really should give it a rest. It makes you look...myopic.Sorry but the AOJJ was boring. Plain and simple. I wish people would just admit it. But I guess it's easy to (DARE I SAY IT) drink the kook-aid when a movie LOOKS good and has an admirable cast, right?BTW - did you see my final post regarding BLOOD MERIDIAN in the Scott/BRAVE NEW WORLD Talkback?
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would you hear someone declre PROUDLY that No Country for Old Men, There Will be Blood, and the Assassination of Jesse James are all boring movies...nothing blow up real good in dem!! I hate boring slow movie that make mah brain think!!jesus christ, it's like advertising you're a fucking idiot. "dat movie wuz slow, I don't liyk it!"go play with a rock somewhere and wait for Bad Boys 3 to come out. fucking hell, what the hell are you doing on a movie site, if you're too ass licking stupid to understand or appreciate great films if they happen to be paced a little slower than your standard hollywood shitfest? was A Thin Red Line too "slow" for you too? Shawshank Redemption just plodded along too slowly for ya?god, I knew a lot of people here were dumb...it's just surprising to hear people admit to it so proudly. lockesbrokenleg in another talkback declared Julie and Julia was the "most boring and overrated movie ever", even though it hadn't come out yet an he hadn't seen it...so I know he's a slobbering moron. but some of you guys, I'm surprised you're so proud of not having the patience to sit through a great movie if it doesn't have WOW moments every 3 seconds. I guess this is why Michael Bay is still popular...
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I rather enjoyed A THIN RED LINE. However, the AOJJ...boring.There, I said it. Again. I feel better.:^)
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but the film overall could have been better. Still I'm a fan of that director, I hope he gets another shot at film. Also Asimov's schtick is getting very old. Are you a disgruntled Star Trek fan or something? Give it up, Star Trek isn't even that highly liked anyways. Nobody mentions it these days besides you.
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I heard the Amy Adams' half of the movie was total shit. But that's expected when the other half consists of Meryl Streep. Most talented actress working today IMO. Even better than the likes of Blanchett and Winslet.
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Son't be a douche. The oil rig exploded in Blood, so it DID have explosions. Also, No Country was just one long Dukes of Hazzard episode.
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when you can hate so many good films/TV shows yet you like that piece of shit? Surely you found some really big flaws in that aswell?
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How can you hate LOST and like shitty shit like Firefly?
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Aug 09, 2009 5:31:43 PM CDT
BadMrWonka, WHAT EXACTLY WAS SOO GOOD ABOUT THEM, EH?
by carlthormark1978
In TWBB, Daniel Plainview starts off as a miserable fucking asshole and stays that way right till the end. There is absolutely no character development because he’s a misanthropic cunt. Some guy shows up, pretends to be his brother, and is killed by Daniel when he learns the truth. His adopted son abandons him when he admits that he never even cared for the kid. He gets Eli to admit to being a false prophet then kills him. Yet despite all of this happening you never get a sense that the story has any sort of momentum. It’s not like the guy was good natured and we got to see the corrupting influence of money and power. He’s a fucking douche from the start and the movie ends with him being a rich murdering douche. Daniel Plainview learns nothing nor does he change in any way while we discover absolutely NOTHING about this person, what motivates him or anything in his past that would explain his behavior. People laughably compared TWBB to Citizen Kane but in that movie we see Charles Foster Kane go from young idealist to a reclusive oligarch who lamented his lost childhood. Paul Thomas Anderson was simply trying to make a western set Citizen Kane as Directed by Terrence Malick as in evidence of the excruciatingly dull moments where nothing happens for long stretches of time. Boring does not mean good. NCFOM fails because Llewelyn Moss is a complete and utter fucking idiot. He finds a fucking massacre, finds a case of money but decides to go back ten hours later with water for someone who had been shot full of holes. Gets chased from his car and now knowing that he’s in the shit, what does he do? Sends his girlfriend to her mothers not even thinking that if they know who he is then they would know that he’s married, who his wife is and who her parents are. He hides a fucking machine gun under the trailer but never bothers to take it or use it. The worst thing is that this fucking shit kicking redneck never gets rid of that black case, containing the money, even after he eventually realizes that it contains a transmitter. Then once he does what the fucking moron do? He sits right in front of the door to his hotel room with a shotgun when he knows that Chigurh and maybe a fucking hit squad of people might be after him given the amount of people he saw dead at the massacre. Sits right on the fucking bed rather then, say, emptying the case, putting the money in his bag, getting his wife and taking off up North, or anywhere to get away from that area. The guy is just so dumb that he thinks can take on these people and it ends up getting him killed. Then there is the Sheriff that has no fucking impact on the story. The stupid wife just sitting down when she sees someone sitting in her house rather then running for her life. The random car accident that Chigurh get’s into, for what reason? How about the fact that we never learn why he was arrested at the beginning of the story never mind that the movie goes out of it’s way to show just how clever he is, so clever that he blows up a car to steal medical supplies and perform surgery on himself but stupid enough to drag around a fucking canister of compressed air and somehow manages to get arrested for which the only purpose was to show him getting out of the cuffs and killing that cop just to show us that he’s a BAD, BAD MAN! The entire movie is soo inconsistent and ridiculous that’s it’s perplexing why anyone considers it to be some sort of masterpiece while TWBB is nothing but a long, boring story about a docuhebag that goes no where.
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Is the word I think you guys are looking for.
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Only want action as I've said this before but some of my favorite movies, Talk Radio, Fail Safe, The Ninth Configuration, Exorcist 3, Silence of the Lambs, The Hospital and Network, mostly contain people sitting around talking to each other and yet they contain gripping stories with strong characters who learn something about themselves or the world around them while their storylines develop in satisfying and interesting ways. TWBB and NCFOM have none of that.
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in fact I don't like Whedon
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Aug 09, 2009 6:24:46 PM CDT
Keep Spielberg "Anti-Midas" Away From Halo!
by isleptwithkathybatesandallthatigotwasthi
Don't let him touch this thing and reduce it to shit as he's done with pretty much everything else over the last eight to ten years.Your glory days are behind you, Beard! Move on! Leave us Halo fans in peace, motherfucker!
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is a scumbag in that movie from jump street. he is that way because he will stop at nothing to get the wealth and prestige that he feels is his due. he works his ass off, fucks over whoever he has too, gives away his adopted son when he is no longer convenient as a sales tool and kills his supposed brother when he finds out he was putting one over on him. basically he is chasing the american dream of working your way up and becoming a rich guy with all the perks and is ruthless in his pursuit. though in the end when he finally gets eli(the preacher kid, i think that was his name) in his mercy and has him begging for money he kills him and instead of elation he just continues his drunken pathetic existence laying around in his bowling alley. the character doesn't develop per se, but it shows that the whole wealth chasing dream of happiness is a sham. He may have drank up his milkshake but he is still an empty man on the inside.
the whole thing with the protaganist in no country is that he is a regular guy, a nam vet yeah, but no more equipped to deal with a murderous cartel than you or i. i think that none of us would really stand a chance against a guy like bardiem's character in real life and hence it is very realistic.
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LOL!!! I'm sorry but CarlThorMark1978 remarks on NCFOM and TWBB are fucking hysterical. His criticism and interpretation of events/scenes is so off the mark that I have to wonder if he actually watched and/or understood the films.
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If you're experienced anything in the Haloverse beyond just the games, especially the novels, then it is not hard to see how this massive sci-fi universe could potentially be translated into a fantastic film. I just think that doing The Fall of Reach first is not the best starting point. I think that they should start with a meatier narrative based around the first game, which actually takes place on a Halo ringworld. Fall of Reach doesn't except for a glimpse at the end, which would just be a tease... "now you gotta see the sequel to actually see what this Halo-thingy is about." Also, with The Fall of Reach the Master Chief wouldn't have his helmet and Spartan armor on for a good deal of the film. It works in a novel, but not on film. Master Chief needs to be a legendary warrior. We don't need to, nor should we see his face. At least not until later in this potential trilogy, sorta like Darth Vader at the end of Jedi.
As for Ghost in the Shell. I just can't see Spielberg doing it. It is too, dark, adult? I don't know? Spielberg + Ghost in the Shell = WTF. I think that a live action Ghost is a huge mistake. Maybe if Ridley Scott had made it in 82 instead of Blade Runner, or if they gave it to Darren Aronofsky or Fincher then maybe. Maybe it would work.
And Half Life would make a kick ass TV series or long miniseries. Give it the BSG treatment: good actors, serious writing, detailed visual FX, get 3-4 good directors, use real locations as much as possible. If anyone has seen that HL short those two commercial directors did for 500 bucks, then imagine what a properly funded series could do with Half Life. -
Let's see if...... this works.
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I'm going to write a TL;DR about how I'm right and you're wrong about Firefly and Whedon!! Hmph!
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So Spielberg has become Uwe Boll now?
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MS and Bungie have done a lot to create a rich mythology in the Halo universe.
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Uwe Boll is the greatest artist that has ever lived. Either that was a lovely compliment, or you're cruisin' for a bruisin', pal!
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Aug 09, 2009 8:42:52 PM CDT
Mr. Nice Gaius, YEAH , OF COURSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THEM, I MEA
by carlthormark1978
It couldn't possibly be that people are reading too much into two shitty moves while trying to convince themselves that these are "masterpiece's"? I'm not saying that they didn't have great acting, their stories just weren't very compelling as character piece's. I also have seen many character intensive movies that didn't bore me with long, drawn out scene's of tedium or protagonists that were fucking idiots.
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Resident Evil movies sucked, too. First Mortal Kombat was alright, but video game movies generally suck balls.
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But peter doesn't...so they're kinda tworn.
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This technically won't be a game moie...
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Samus arrives on an alien planet to find scientists slaughtered (a la Super Metroid) and begins exploration of a strange land that leads to Mother Brain...then makes her escape. Everything does not need to be explained...it can just be an explorer's exploration and escape. -
Quote: "It couldn't possibly be that people are reading too much into two shitty moves while trying to convince themselves that these are "masterpiece's"?"No, it couldn't be, IMHO. However, it could be that you're not reading enough into them. I've never seen a more doltish and surface level critique of NCFOM as the one you posted earlier. Hell, you were even so smug as to belive the Coen's pulled a fast one when they clearly did not. I'd be willing to bet that you're one of those who believes that Moss was the main character, too.Quote: "I also have seen many character intensive movies that didn't bore me with long, drawn out scene's of tedium or protagonists that were fucking idiots."I have as well and I don't believe that TWBB or NCFOM had any of those problems.You sound like someone who wanted something else out of the stories and characters and because it wasn't spoonfed to you in a way you could better identify with, you chose to pitch a fit over subjectivity (the bane of AICN's most vocal and needlessly combative TBers).
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Hello is anybody out there? ! Spielberg will turn this into a sappy truncated formulaic pile of shit... I can't even find anything to rent much less see at a cineplex. Give Blokamp creative free license and steven an EP credit for story notes... uuuggghhh. Makes me sick
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I don't "read" enough into them. Also, don't talk down to me asshole because I've read every critique, on both flicks, and every person who uses the same defense, that both movies have layers of "meaning" and "subtext" that other people just "don't get", is just a smokescreen to cover up the fact that NCFOM is a cat and mouse game between a retard and a killer while the Cop hovers around the edges, never makes any connections and who's only purpose is to lament the good old days thus providing the meaning behind the title of the movie which is why the Coen’s thought it would be clever to switch the view point of the movie to The Sheriff and not even bother to show us what happened to Llewelyn or even how, just the aftermath from the Sheriff’s POV. I remember critics creaming over that when the fact is that is just shitty film making because the Coen’s were being cute by not showing the end of Llewelyn’s storyline and just having it suddenly shift to the Sheriff. Shifting perspectives and experimentation is fine in some cases but in the case of NCFOM, it doesn’t work because the movie goes out of it’s way to make us identify with Llewelyn, having us follow his through all the shit he goes through, only to shaft the audience by not revealing how he met his fate. There’s no meaning or subtext to that, it was just the Coen’s trying to fuck with people. Also, what the fuck was the point of the police station scene with Chigurh other then just to show off that he was a badass by killing that cop. That scene serves no narrative function and it completely flies in the face of this guy being some sort of super competent hitman when he can so easily get pinched never mind that we don’t even learn what he was arrested for in the first place. Also, what was the fucking point of the him getting into a car crash and the following events? What, shit happens or, let me guess, that it’s divine retribution for his actions or that he was a fucking dumbass who didn’t look both ways? Then what? He walks away with a bone sticking out his arm? Convenient that the movie ends soon after and doesn’t bother telling us how or where he gets medical treatment. These are very simple questions and just because you don’t have answers doesn’t mean that the movie had any sort of hidden thematic content that us lowly plebs just aren’t smart enough to decipher.
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It would be PERFECT for a video game.
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And he thinks it's an example of Spielberg's decline, yet if it had been filmed by Paul Thomas Anderson or the Coens, he would rave about it and use as an example of their growth and range.
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Aug 09, 2009 10:13:49 PM CDT
carlthormark i think the point of the car crash is
by martinlutherkrangjr
shit happens. or as the poster for the movie said "there is no clean getaways". basically saying there is no super-hitman who can evade detection all the time or account for every back country copper out there. what the fuck does it matter if we see him get medical treatment? we know he can fix a shotgun wound to the leg, im sure he can figure out how rig a splint for his arm or something.
its not a case of the coens being cute when they don't show llewelyns show down with chigurh, its showing that the movie isn't so much about his fate, but the fate of us all, and that for all the weak protestations of the us to make some meaning out of life or to try and make it a better place that in the end we all die, evil still continues.
can you not handle movies that challenge you in any way, i don't even know if im right about this movie but at least it made me think about it, which it seems like you have not at all. theres always transformers buddy. -
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Aug 09, 2009 10:14:53 PM CDT
mr nice gaius is often just trying to argue with asimov
by martinlutherkrangjr
but he is totally dead on with this one.
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Aug 09, 2009 10:16:35 PM CDT
Chakraborty, I DON'T THINK MUCH OF SPR EITHER BUT....
by carlthormark1978
When I make an argument, as to why, I explain my position in detail. I don't just say "oh, you just don't get it because you have teh stoopid".
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I think he's pissed because I pointed out the obvious spelling of his name which best encapsulates his personality (I can't be the first) and now it's gonna stick and everyone's gonna call him that, as they should.
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I'll be ready to use this! Someone loan me the Money please?
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/WWII_Nerf_Gun_Returns_from_Past_to_Annihilate_Future/who
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I just disagree with you on must everything you've said, so it's kinda pointless to try to make any points, but I did want to mention two little things:
first off, Daniel Plainview's character arc, or lack thereof, is not the point of There Will be Blood. it, as the book, is about the dark side of the american dream. it's about how this manifest destiny, get everything you want mentality of america has a dark, unethical and soul crushing side to it. the character traits that made Plainview a successful businessman, and eventually a multi-millionaire, are the same traits that made his personal life miserable, and made him a misanthropic asshole. that you missed that entirely is at the root of why you don't like the movie. but thankfully, most people got it.
the other thing is the arrest of Chigurh. I assumed that he allowed himself to be arrested because he knew he could easily escape and it was the easiest way to steal a cop car. which he then uses a few scenes later.if you choose to only watch a movie on surface levels, that's fine. but you can't fault people who want to dig a little deeper, can you? there are plenty of movies I think are crappy that people think have overarching premises. Crash is a good example of the emperor's new clothes...there really is no there there. the 2 movies we're discussing don't fall into that category. -
Let's throw a couple names out there: CUARON GREENGRASS ABRHAMS
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First of all, please don't try that "other people just don't get it is a smokescreen" crap. Saying that you don't "get it" was not my intent. However, implying that you misunderstood certain aspects or are simply coming up with childish criticisms certainly may have been.Let me put it this way: NCFOM is the Coen Brothers' near verbatim adaption of the novel by Cormac McCarthy. So, if you think the Coens were being "cute" in any way with the story, then you are dead wrong. It's about as faithful to the source material as you can get. So, if you have a problem with that, then your issue should be with the author. (Have you read the book? No? Give it a shot.)Second, the main/central character of the story (yes, there was one) is not Moss or Chigurh. It's Sherriff Ed Tom Bell. The story belongs to him and it's clearly established with his opening monologue and then cemented by the revelation contained within his dream.Regarding Moss's death, the book and the movie intentionally "shafts" the audience because that's what life and death do. You expected to see some sort of big showdown between Moss and Chigurh - you wanted to see someone's head blown off. The fact that you didn't is right in line with one of the central themes of the book - death arrives for anyone at anytime. (As Bell's uncle would say, "You can't stop what's coming.) In my opinion, there is more meaning to Moss's offscreen death than you apparently understood.Regarding Chigurh's arrest and killing of the cop, did you ever stop to think that he allowed that to happen on purpose? One could say that it's just a slick way of introducing a character that you're going to be watching for the next 90 minutes. But then, NOTHING the guy did was without reason and killing was never beneath him. And seriously, who fucking cares what he was arrested for?!?!Finally, with regards to the car crash, I believe someone else has already been addressed this in this Talkback. Yet do you really need it spelled out for you? Do you think it was divine intervention? Do you really think it was because he was a fucking dumbass who didn't look both ways? Try something a little more esoteric (i.e. Moss's death) like the randomness of the universe and how we all thought Chigurh was going to get his comeuppance...but didn't. Think about how you got robbed by another expected narrative convention and you might be onto something.Quote: "He walks away with a bone sticking out his arm? Convenient that the movie ends soon after and doesn’t bother telling us how or where he gets medical treatment."Wow. You've got to be kidding. Are you serious with that shit?Bottom line: there is PLENTY of thematic content in NCFOM. It should have been as obvious as getting hit in the head with a cattle gun.
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Actually, you wanna know what my favorite sensation is? It's when a new Talkbacker (who has never posted on AICN before) shows up and tries to flame me by tickling my balls.Keep it up. Let me know if you want an invitation to the dance.
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Aug 10, 2009 12:52:03 AM CDT
That clip right there is better then most of the films I've seen
by evangelion217
Can't wait for "Disctrict 9." :)
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I agree. "No Country For Old Men" is a masterpiece, and it truly establishes the Coen Brothers as one of the great master filmmakers of this modern era. :)
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Aug 10, 2009 1:02:46 AM CDT
martinlutherkrangjr, FUCK YOU, YOU'RE NOT TALKING TO.....
by carlthormark1978
Some dipshit like locksbrokenleg who rails against Citizen Kane so shove Transformers up your fucking asshole. You don’t have a single justification for anything that I have criticized NCFOM for, just sarcasm implying that because I think that the movie is shit that I would lap up fucking garbage like Transformers. See, it’s all so clear to me know, I’m arguing with a bunch of Coen/PT Anderson worshippers who cant answer my questions without claiming that I just “don’t get it” because I’m not “reading” enough into the films or that I “haven’t read the book” so I don’t know. First of all, if a move can’t work on its own then it’s a piss poor adaptation. Second, the problem with the Coen’s and Anderson is that they have both developed a reputation as “auteurs” which means that there is an endless supply of film school rejects who twaddle on about how “deep” their movies are when NCFOM, or TWBB for that matter, showed nothing in the way of innovation or even satisfying storytelling. Thirdly, both films were exercises in wankery as TWBB was, as I stated, PT Anderson once again proving that his career has been built upon mimicking the styles of other directors from the 70’s and now that he’s done his Scorsese, Altman, Ashby and Malick film, the question remains, which Directors style will he ape for his next picture? Meanwhile the Coen’s will continue their habit of making “quirky” and “eccentric” movies while sucking people into thinking that there is anything going on underneath the surface of their films when the truth is that they are just jerking everyone around. Christ, you all fucking sound like every single dickhead who defends a particular director just because you like their movies. For your information, I FUCKING LOVED Barton Fink and Boogie Nights so it’s not like I’m deliberately trying to shit on these guys but I get soo fucking sick of the condescending cinesnobbery that claim that because these guys make a particular type of movie means that they are beyond reproach.
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Aug 10, 2009 1:17:33 AM CDT
"I get soo fucking sick of the condescending cinesnobbery..."
by mr. nice gaius
Oh boy.
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What kind of faggotry is going on in here! ffs! this is the HALO talkback!
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I don't know. You'll have to ask Chakraborty. He seems to be into assplay.
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Aug 10, 2009 1:42:22 AM CDT
BadMrWonka, EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT TWBB WAS TRUE…..
by carlthormark1978
The problem is that it was all so blatantly obvious as Plainview’s ruthlessness was a contributing factor to his misanthropic tendencies as well as being tied to his success. But that just isn’t interesting to me because he’s that way throughout the whole movie and demonstrates it with everything he does. So where is the surprise when he does something horrible as we already know that he’s capable of it because he is such a bastard? There is no change or growth to his character at all so what is the point? It’s not that every person in a movie has to go through with some sort of life altering experience that completely turns their personality around but I found TWBB boring as fuck because Plainview is soo one note. Also, what a piss poor excuse for Chigurh’s arrest “he let himself be caught so he could use the car”. BULLSHIT! It was purely a narrative device for the Coen’s to show off their bad guy killing someone then he stole the police car as he obviously needed a vehicle. Pure narrative expediency, that’s all. The whole character bothered me because he exists as some sort of enigma who apparently has no history apart from having “no sense of humor”. He just seems to be a psychopathic lunatic who is, as I said earlier, clever enough to blow up that car to distract people while he steals medical supplies but not smart enough to watch out for on coming traffic. And once again all I’m hearing is this “you have to dig beneath the surface” bullshit as I am quite well aware of the use of thematic subtext in movies, thank you very much, and have no problems with narrative/character ambiguity as not everything needs to be spelled out but on the other hand random shit happening, the car crash, symbolizes nothing apart from the Coen’s wacking off.I also find it amusing that for people who keep claiming that these movies are just soo fucking deep, you seem to have a big problem with me considering what happens to characters when they aren’t on the screen, almost as though your imagination can’t conceive anything that isn’t being spoon fed to you by the Directors. I ask about the Chigurh’s car accident because not only is it a stupid, random event that has no impact on anything at that point in the movie but that it’s also insulting that the Coen’s just let him walk off with a chunk of fucking bone sticking out of his arm and blood pouring out of his face. But we don’t see him again so who fucking cares right? I mean, if he’s not on the screen anymore then we shouldn’t bother thinking about him or his situation, right? It’s very convenient that they don’t bother to follow through with that scene and it’s really fucking stupid that you don’t give a shit about any of this but will deride me that I’m not “digging deep enough” or that I’m not “getting it” and for all your shit about hidden “depth” and “meaning” you aren’t concerned with anything that happens beyond what’s on the screen.
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The faggotry here is the type only Mr. Nice Gay Ass can bring to a talkback with his gay ass opinions. I actually love both TWBB and NCFOM but I can't stand the way douche's like Gay Ass go on about them in his snobbish manner but this is what he does when he's not serenading drag queens with Hall and Oates songs, or spending most of his weekend lying face down and naked on the docks holding his butt cheeks apart waiting for a fleet of sailors to come in while yelling "COME AND GET IT!!!"
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You can go back on my posts and answer my questions about NCFOM, including all the stupid shit that the characters do, and then explain why your knowledge of film language is superior, right? I'll wait....tick, tock, tick, tock.....
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Aug 10, 2009 1:57:37 AM CDT
Microsoft pissed off the studios with the first attempt to make
by luci888
It isn't so much that Blomkamp got fucked over, but that Microsoft (who own the Halo game) saw how the studios have very badly fucked up previous film versions of other computer games and exerted heavy control over a live action Halo film, that pissed the studios off, but it's a good thing they were (and still would be) control freaks about this as they'd need to be, if they don't want a studio to fuck things up.
As they can easily afford it, Microsoft are much better off just funding a Halo live action film themselves and getting Spielberg's company to distribute it for them.
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That's because Llewelyn was a fucking moron who probably didn't bother to check if there was a second tracking device because, otherwise, how did the hit squad find him? Chigurh checked the room and the air vent because he knew that's where Llewelyn hid it in the other room.
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Aug 10, 2009 2:14:16 AM CDT
Chakraborty, Mr. Nice Gay Ass DOESN'T WAIT AT THE DOCKS....
by carlthormark1978
He swims out to the ships and when they see him cuming the radar mistakes his flaming ass for an enemy ship on a collision coarse so they fire a torpedo (this model is named the Jackson, after Michael, because he was a pedo that tor young boy ass!) and Mr. Nice Gay Ass quickly does a 180 and takes it right up his culo before exploding with delight.
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He also probably thinks Nightmare Before Christmas is the bestest movie ever.
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man, come on. Chigurh got the money, that was the point of showing that the vent had been opened. he also tosses a hundo to the kids at the end, if I recall.
I'm not gonna get into the other stuff about There Will be Blood, suffice to say I'm bewildered by someone hating a film because it doesn't have a more traditional character arc for the main character. I like films that are unusual, and if they are successfully so, all the better.and in the book No Country for Old Men, Chigurh states specifically that he allowed himself to be arrested on purpose. so I guess if that's a "piss poor excuse" as you eloquently put it, you should take it up with Cormac McCarthy, not me. -
Aug 10, 2009 2:28:55 AM CDT
RedHorseVector, TYPICAL, NO ANSWERS SO YOU JUST WALK AWAY....
by carlthormark1978
Then what was the point of the money, and the film, pray tell? That greed will be your downfall? Wow, never heard that one before, how fucking original and innovative. I guess all the stupid shit and random car crashes also cleverly ties into the movie by somehow correlating with some sort of mathematical algorithm that the Coen’s brilliantly weaved into the plot and disguised as dumb shit that the either happens to the characters or what they do which proves Stephen Hawking’s quote that “not only does God play dice but he sometimes throws them where they cannot be seen”. HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! The entire movie is a cinematic equation for Chaos Theory while also tying itself to String Theory in such a way that it could unravel the very fabric of the space time continuum!!! AHHHH THERE’S A FIRE INSIDE MY BRAIN!!!
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Aug 10, 2009 3:10:48 AM CDT
TWBB was dog doodoo, the weirdly green colored kind
by takingscorpioscalls
all i could see while watching this was the director behind the scenes standing around holding his dong in his hand saying "i am so great my movie is the bestest!". I never get that feeling from ACTUALLY great movies like Godfather.
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Aug 10, 2009 3:10:51 AM CDT
TWBB was dog doodoo, the weirdly green colored kind
by takingscorpioscalls
all i could see while watching this was the director behind the scenes standing around holding his dong in his hand saying "i am so great my movie is the bestest!". I never get that feeling from ACTUALLY great movies like Godfather.
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Totally down for the Spielberg produced version of Halo as long as Neil Blomkamp directs it.
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you would need a 13 year old kid sitting behind you in the theater yelling and calling you "A FUCKING FAGGOT JEWNIGGER!"
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but seriously though, the original Halo was an excellent game for it's day (though I'm sure it's probably a bit dated now of course), it felt like playing through a cool sci-fi novel, Halo 2 was disappointing to me, but Halo 3 was allot of fun, Halo has a rich universe and an interesting story that would lend itself well to a movie adaption, I'm glad to see a Halo movie is still coming
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won't touch Halo again he said, somewhere.
When it fell apart the first time it soured him to the whole project -
Aug 10, 2009 5:43:35 AM CDT
they also need to make some movies based on Valve games
by the amazing g
Half Life would make an awesome movie, think The Mist meets Jurassic Park, but with lots of shooting. Left 4 Dead would make a cool movie and they should totally make a CGI Team Fortress 2 movie
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....doesn't just rename this section the INSULTBACK and be done with it, lol.
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Great job of sidestepping my post and practically reprinting your previous one. You're clearly trolling hard on this one and have nothing further to offer.Intentional contrarians are so tiresome and lame.
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Keep it up.
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i think i wrote a couple posts addressing your problems with both movies, and either you didn't read them or just don't care and want to hate these movies. anyways, i don't care anymore, you seem determined to not like these movies and want to think we are idiots for seeing more into these movies than just a synopsis of plot points. out of curiosity why did you like Barton Fink?
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i don't care why you liked that movie. you are a tool.
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Just doesn't get movies. The people who hated No Country were the same ones that are responsible for Transformers 2 being a box office success. The sheeple, in other words.
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http://tinyurl.com/cmuuqk
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Enough with this binary opposition where "if you hate NCFOM. you love TF2." I for one did not like NCFOM. That is just me.... I felt that the ending was silly and that Chigurh character was contrived.... That is just me.
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Just a couple die hard fans out there, but with the right movie, story this could be a star wars type flick. Fuck it up, and many little Master chiefs will be hunting his ass down for a tea bagging. (Tell me people are not that messed up)
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... and if not Mr. Bay then another Spielberg stinker... Let's just hope Orci stays away from this. Have I missed anybody? :)
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I have just returned on a jaunt from the future where I have confirmed this. Also, Mark Wahlberg, Shia LaBeouf, and Gerard Butler starred in a 2012 remake of JAWS that made bajillions at the box office. And for some reason, everyone wears onions on their belt.
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Yes, and most definately!
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This movie has his name written all over it. Lets hope The Beard sees sense and gives him the reins.
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that video proves how awesome a Half Life movie could be
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The CGI environments are thrown out in favor of real locations. Shoot it PVT RYAN style (Steve's last real hit) and then you may have something. Go the other direction and you've got what will be perceived to be an AVATAR rip-off leading to a flop at the BO.
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The main guy can't really die or get hurt in the movie. If he has a squad, we know, they'll get killed. Master Chief has to work on his own.
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I'd love to discuss wothu you all the stuff about Blood Meridian and No Country for Old Man and Dawson Trek. But here's the deal: If you want to converse with me, you call me by my nick "AsimovLives" and nothing else. This or no deal. Call me by anything else and i'll not even bother to red your post. That's how it is, that is as it shall be. This or no deal.
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Really unique feel, great use of hand-held cam without losing coherence or geography. This is exactly what I was hoping for from Blomkamp; too bad it doesn't look like we'll get to see it. He'd have my 11 bucks.
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No closer to heaven on earth: a HALO movie.
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