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An Interesting Tidbit About The STAR TREK: ORIGINAL SERIES Season 2 Blu-Ray Set...
Merrick here...
I can't stress how cool the STAR TREK: ORIGINAL SERIES Blu-Ray collections are. You can find my review of Season 1 HERE.
Season 2 of the series will be issued September 22, and there's something kinda nifty about it for hardcore TREK fans like myself.
Since many readers wrote in to echo my masturbatory exaltation of the TOS Season 1 Blu-Ray set, I thought this heads up about the second season's issuance might be in order.
The Blu-Ray Blog noted that the forthcoming Season 2 set will feature a disk almost exclusively devoted to Tribbles:
Special Features:
The Trouble With Tribbles preview trailer
More Tribbles, More Troubles Episode From Star Trek®: The Animated Series (HD)
Audio Commentary by David Gerrold
Trials And Tribble-ations From Star Trek: Deep Space Nine® (HD)
Trials And Tribble-ations: Uniting Two Legends
Trials And Tribble-ations: An Historic Endeavor
Fair enough - as "The Trouble With Tribbles" is a part of this season.
HOWEVER, if you look at the above features carefully, you'll notice that we'll be getting a chance to see a Tribbles-centric episode of STAR TREK: THE ANIMATED SERIES in High Definition, as well as "Trials and Tribbleations" - the most excellent DEEP SPACE NINE retro episode incorporating the DS9 cast into the original series' "Trouble With Tribbles". This will also be in HD.
Essentially, this'll be the first time we'll see either THE ANIMATED SERIES or DEEP SPACE NINE in HD, and will serve as a preview that portends the probable HD release of both series somewhere down the road.
Find many more details about Season 2's release at the Blu-Ray blog HERE.
Season 2, complete with the Tribble jamboree, is now preorderable HERE
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The Trouble With Tribbles preview trailer
More Tribbles, More Troubles Episode From Star Trek®: The Animated Series (HD)
Audio Commentary by David Gerrold
Trials And Tribble-ations From Star Trek: Deep Space Nine® (HD)
Trials And Tribble-ations: Uniting Two Legends
Trials And Tribble-ations: An Historic Endeavor
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worst of all the star trek series
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Couldn't resist.
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What a great idea, and so well executed.
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The Tribbles were to TOS as the Ewoks were to Star Wars. All cute and fuzzy-wuzzy. And DS9 blows in any format.
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Maybe the 'fun factor' appeals to a bigger audience, but this series has much better, less hyped episodes.
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is this episode going to be in HD, all the forrest gump like effects work, transporter fx, and exterior ship fx were all rendered for 480i, it would take too much $$$ to track down all the original elements and rebuild the episode from scratch
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SD maybe but def not HD....
If they couldnt fix TMP for Bluray(Dir cut).....then this is probably 480p as well. -
Bill Hunt at thedigitalbits has confirmed its simply an upconverted version of the standard video master...meaning yes it will look better then whats on TV and DVD but it in no way should be considered High definition, the animated series episode, however, will be in HD as it's masters are on film and not video like DS9 isI suggest an update perhaps Merrick before people get confused
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move along
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Gerrold FINALLY admits that he stole the tribble concept from Heinlein's 'Rolling Stones' (they were called Martian Flat Cats). He parlayed one act of plagiarism into a career--- And nobody has ever called him on it...
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Awesome news; season 2 looks to be just as great as season one. One thing to note: The animated & DS9 ep will be an upcovert from 480; - its not true 1080p, but should look nice
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... it's one of those shark/remora fish deals. The tribbles provide Shat with a full head of hair and feed on shed skin cells from his scalp and whatever scraps of food they can snag during his feeding frenzies.
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The Season One discs were beautiful, despite a lack of consistency with the effects. When the shots worked, they worked amazingly well, and when they didn't, yikes.
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Bullshit. Gerrold addressed this at least 30 years ago.
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But will they recolorize the pink tribbles and pink/purple Klingon uniforms? Given the director was color-blind and didn't get them colored right originally...
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Come on!
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Aug 07, 2009 1:43:04 PM CDT
TakeItEasyMon, wait 20 years and there you go.
by stereotypical evil archer
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The show was edited on video with a native resolution of 480i, in order to make a true 1080p high definition transfer they would have to go back to the original film negatives for each episode and re-edit every single pice of footage back to how it was originally edited 20 years ago, not to mention the issue with special effects shots that where filmed right from the begining at 480i (it's the same as why we didn't get star trek TMP directors cut)editing and storing on Video was cheap back in the 80's so TV studios jumped at the chance to use it but it seriously fucks up the chance of getting HD transfer of alot of shows, TNG, DS9 and Voyager all suffererd from this, which means the chance of seeing them on Blu is doubtful unless Paramount is willing to pump million of dollars into reconstruction each episode..which i doubt they do
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all of those Tribbles bonus features are stripped straight from the Season 2 remastered edition DVD.
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Tribbles is an okay episode, but Doomsday Machine is better. You should also mention that ALL the trek movies will be remastered and put on regular and Blue ray DVD. That includes all the new features!
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And I say 'Bullshit' right back; his self-serving, non-apology in the book he wrote strains credulity. It was basically, "Of course, I had read Heinlein as a kid; I'm sure I read Rolling Stones at some point; I remember all about flat cats... But I must have just forgotten all about it in the long years since." I could buy this if it came from a 60-year-old writer, but not from a 22-year-old avowed sci-fi fan trying to make his first TV script sale. Let's not forget that two other Gerrold pitches were tossed immediately for being taken whole cloth from other popular authors' stories... And also please note that such a stink raised up over 'Tribbles' once it was in production that Heinlein was eventually asked to sign off on the use of his 'flat cats' concept. Being a n ice guy (and not wanting to kill some poor kid's career before it started), Heinlein gave Gerrold a freebie.
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The Digital Bits has confirmed that the DS9 episode is a 480p upconvert. Since every ST show after the animated series was edited and had the effects created in 480p standard definition (Except Enterprise of course since it was shot in HD). The only way to get those shows in HD is to completely re-edit the original film elements and redo the special effects. That's a HUGE job and isn't likely to happen anytime soon.
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I always wondered how Spock could tell.
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is awesome.
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Space seed should have been an extra on wrath of khan bluray and the voyager episode flashback should have been included as an extra on the undiscovered county Bluray..i call shenanagiens
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one of the best Trek series
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Voyager and Enterprise better than DS9? Do you think Batman & Robin was better than The Dark Knight? Don't answer, I don't care.
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Spock used his tricorder and scanned the tribbles. McCoy scanned them with his medical tricorder.
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Been watching that series again and it really is my favorite. I love the old west gold town feel of the station, where you have wild characters coming through every episode.
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I agree it's absolutely better than Voyager & Enterprise, but there are people on the internet (I've never met one in real life, tho) that say DS9 is the best Trek ever. I think everyone remembers those last couple of seasons with the cool Dominion war but completely forgets all the lousy episodes about Bajoran politics.
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They say it was atrocious writing, with two stereotypical queens having a domestic squabble. I'd love to see the script for it just for the lulz.
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Is a spectacular sight.
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And who decided we needed to see hobo aliens? I mean Jesus Christ, what an absolute shit idea! Kazons have to be the worst TV villains since....maybe EVER! And I swera to God every other episode was time travel. It gets REEEEEAL OLD! And someone buy Janeway a throat lozenge for fuck's sake!
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That's why i hate the series that came after with their modernist style of everything being dark and leathery and just plain bland.
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If it completed its 5 year run would the series have ended in 71? late-69/mid-70 for season 4, then late-70s-mid-71 for season 5. Is that the pattern?
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He's been milking it for almost 20 years.
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They're CRAZY DELICIOUS!
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... wasn't it an animatronic ride at a Paramount theme park?
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...is silly, campy fun!
Of course, I prefer the movie Treks (at least, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 8) with the NEW STAR TREK film to (re)boot!
Those hippy Trek shows from the 60s are pretty groovy, in a MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000 sort of way. -
...was some good, ol' fashioned Bollywood-style dancing. Wait...I think that I remember some dancing too. Didn't Kirk and Spock dance during a couple of fight scenes? Or was that 1960s Batman and Robin? It is easy to get those two series confused.
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Some Trekkie will begin to bitch about the new STAR TREK film while they relentlessly defend the campy Trek of the 1960s. These people deserve an arrogant, liberal-socialist asshole like Obama as their President. And they deserve their 1960s Trek as their vision for the "future." There are no tricorders in socialized ObamaCare. But hey, BIG GOVERNMENT IS WATCHING YOU! Just send your fishy emails to the White House.
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Some idiot will use a thread about Star Trek Blu-Ray to launch into a whining, completely off-topic rant about politics. Whoops. Already done.
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but like TNG it didn't get really good until the third season (Worf added to the cast). If you go watch some of those first and second season episodes of TNG, you'll see many of them just don't hold up.
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Gerrold rewrote it and directed it for the fan series Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II and it's now a two-part Kirk-era story. Video download at startreknewvoyages.com
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I thought it would be the same ship passing through but they have freakin battles and ships docking in space bays, not really like star wars 77 but ridiculously close to that level.
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Aug 07, 2009 6:35:49 PM CDT
TakingScorpiosCalls: sounds like you're watching "remastered"
by nem_wan
All the space shots were redone with CG a couple years ago and that must be what you're talking about. Star Trek did have Emmy-winning effects in the 60s but they don't hold up THAT well.
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I hate to be that guy, but the effects of the original series always took me out of the story. The remastered episodes are perfect, in my mind. I do think the effects could be better (TNG effects are, at times), but this show is awesome and I see a lot of the appeal that made people so crazy about it in the first place. As far as this second season on Blu-Ray, all of you whiners are going to purchase it anyway, so quit your crying. I grok Spock, etc, etc.
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...as opposed to the left-wing radicals who use EVERY thread as a means to quietly toss their political opinions into the fray? I merely beat the Obama-worshipping drones to the punch.
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The original - our inheritancenext gen - out teenage first loveDS9 - our bong hitting fond memoriesvoyager - star trek for girls, hey it got us some pussyenterprise - WTF??
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Every episode had a fucking war in it. Yeah, that's why people watched Star Trek.
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enterprise - that fat bird you've shagged when drunk and too embarrassed to tell anyone. best forgotten!
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and I know DS9 sucked.
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WOW does this sound cool! I might wait until all 3 seasons are out as a set on Blu-ray. I have them all on Beta (and several Beta machines that work fantastic, thank you), and then to DVD, which look fine on the Blu-Ray upconverter on my Sony. Oh, about the original Tribble? I have had it since 1969, along with an original set of Spock ears and other TOS goodies.
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DS9 was always the "other" Trek and it should be remembered in that context. It started while TNG was on and ended while Voyager was on. It had to contrast itself some way and being darker let it tell stories and explore arcs the other, more episodic and formulaic Treks couldn't get into. When DS9 was weak it was because it was trying (or being forced) to be LESS different, particularly during the brief time it was the only Trek on the air. If nothing else DS9 proves how popular Star Trek was in the 90s. Two TV series and a movie series at the same time. Any other franchise pull that off?
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...was what killed Trek, IMHO.Too much supply and not enough demand. TNG was planting the seeds for their second spinoff (Voyager) already in their last season... The Maquis, Native American planet, etc. I remember when Next Generation ended, we still had Deep Space Nine running, Generations was coming out, and Voyager had already been cast and was being shot. (I remember recognizing "Tuvok" on the Enterprise-B bridge. That's what I call overkill. Berman & Braga must've thought they were the next Norman Lear with all their damn spinoffs.
They had all this Trek on TV and then expected people to pay to see those (mostly awful) TNG movies?
I was a pretty big fan of Trek and even I was getting tired of it once that "Warp 10 salamanders" episode of Voyager aired. I never even watched one episode of Enterprise. I do plan on watching JJ Trek once it hits DVD, though. -
Thanks, I'll have to check that out. I watched one fan film a couple of years ago and wasn't that impressed. Something to do with Commodore Decker and a time warp. First of all, the story was VERY GEEKY; if you aren't thoroughly versed in Classic Trek, you probably wouldn't get it. Second... I wasn't able to accept those other actors as Kirk, Spock, etc. I wish these fan films would take place on a different Constitution-class starship with new characters-- I would probably really dig them if they did that.
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Claiming DS9 was bad Trek is almost as ridiculous as claiming JJ's Trek movie was good Trek.
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..will be nice to see what a DS9 Blu-Ray set might look like even if it's only upconverted Hi-Def. Know9ng how Paramount loves to milk the Trek audience; we'll probably get all the Trek series in every video format from now to the end of time.
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The matte paintings and backgrounds on some parts look better than all the CGI'd diahrea of big budget movies today.
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how pricey the Trek sets were, but now that they're on blue ray, you're ready to buy them?
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They were all filmed on video tape at 480i, not film. It's not a question of money, time or effort. It's simply impossible to create HD versions of them. The absolute best you can get out of them is digitally remastered interier shots to 480p and redo all the sfx to 1080p. But what's the point in that? Part of the joy if the BD TOS is seeing Kirk, Spook and McCoy and the original sets in such glorious detail. I'll be sticking to upscaled DVD for the newer Treks.
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hi,
that's not completely true. STar Trek TAS was broadcasted in HD at least in Germany on AnixeHD in 2007 (German News http://www.hdtvtotal.com/module-pagesetter-viewpub-tid-1-pid-1037.html ), so it's just the first time beeing pressed on an HD media in HD-resolution.
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TNG can be made to be HD. If they kept the original film, they restore, recut, and redo the special effects (same as they did to the original trek). While the episodes were cut and edited onto video tape, it was filmed on film. It's an expensive process. I'm not sure if ds9/voyager did the same thing. I'd like to see ds9 on bluray.... only a handful of voyager eps worth rewatching though.
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Seriously, reading "I liked x but hated y" over and over again is so fascinating!
And can someone please explain to me one more time what they would have to do to put TNG in HD? I missed it the first hundred times. -
Enough is enough! I've had it with these motherfucking tribbles on the motherfucking ship!
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Was pretty good. does anyone know if the same TOS writers wrote that too?
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The "r" is lowercase.
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I always thought most of the work in film editing was the decision making. If the precise cuts are already there to work from, so long as the reels are in good condition and well organized it should be a fairly straightforward process. The effects on the other hand are a bigger problem, as I understand many of them were created on video and not on film like the main footage was.
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Aug 08, 2009 9:02:04 PM CDT
Here's an interesting discussion on converting TNG to HD
by bob loblaw law blog
Check it out: http://bit.ly/o6CoA
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It's what Gene would have wanted.
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had original writers contributing, and Larry Niven, and Walter Koenig (the only original cast member not to come back. I was surprised at how good it was. Even with the iffy Filmation animation, it went deeper than any of the original series could with subjects.
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All of these extras were already included in the DVD version of season 2 enhanced Trek. The 2 special documentaries were originally created for the DS9 season 5 set, most definitely not in HD.
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UPDATE: Bill Hunt at The Digital Bits has confirmed with CBS/Paramount that “this is merely a 1080p upconvert from the original 480 digital master - not a full HD rebuild, a la TOS Remastered”
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A GI JOE part 2 is in the works!
Cobraaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
cheyne_stoking_DMS needs to shut its fucking mouth! DS9 is a fantastic show and Trek's last great moment as a television entity. I loved Abrams take so there's that. There's nothing more I hate than a non-fan who knows not a fucking thing about which they are speaking of.
Still not sure how TNG ever stayed on the air with that laughable, lousy first season.
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