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TRUE LIES 2 to shoot in 14 months - not according to James Cameron...
Hey folks, Harry here... I get these emails from a certain Arnie fan. They come with some frequency - many of the online movie commentators get them as well, and I'm betting you talkbackers can even guess the name of the email assailant. Tom Arnold recently has been quoted as saying that TRUE LIES 2 was going to be shooting in 14 months. This would be on the otherside of Arnie's term as Governor. That would give him a degree of time to get back into badass shape... that is on the otherside of AVATAR for Cameron. Well... I had to email Jim to find out if there was any truth to Tom Arnold's statement. You see, ever since the release of TRUE LIES, Tom Arnold has been quoted as being the official cheerleader for the sequel. Most of the web community has taken to not repeating Tom's hopeful statements - as there have been no other indicators regarding the reality of his statements. Here's what Cameron wrote me when I asked about the latest statement from Tom.
Harry, Again, as always, thanks for checking the facts. I think Tom was joking. There are no plans for a True Lies 2. I don't know about the creative direction thing... I'm always down for a good action/comedy ( actually we always classified the film as a "domestic epic"). But since September 11, I've never felt comfortable generating laughs with nuke-toting Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. True Lies, even though it has a cautionary thread underneath the pratfalls, is in a strange way a product of a more innocent time. But if we ever do another True Lies, I wouldn't dream of doing it without Tom. He's a good friend and a very funny guy. Jim out
So there you have it. "There are no plans for a TRUE LIES 2." - James Cameron.
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but it's a one joke story - wife doesnt know husband is superspy. No need for a sequel. Give us more brainstorming sci-fi instead Lord Jim!
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he might have cameos here and there, but he ain't starring ever again.
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it was called Mr. and Mrs. Smith
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A decent video edition is WAY, WAY overdue.
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But Jim's right. You couldn't make it now and nor should a sequel be made. Let it go Tom...
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Do you mean Arnold as in Arrrrnuuld, or Arnold as in Tom Arnold?
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side by side is a perfect example of the sad decline in action filmmaking over the past 15 years.
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Best action movie ever. Speaking of which, where's The Abyss: Special Edition on Blu-Ray? Thanks in advance Mr. James Cameron.
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Can't be done. The great Chuck Heston is no longer with us.
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about someone else, maybe a mother/wife who's a domestic agent and is stopping terrorists on her way to soccer practice. Arnie could take over the Late Great Chuck Heston's role as supervisor, or maybe have Tom Arnold do that, and Arnie make a cameo. It's doable, just not with Arnie as the protagonist.
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i hated it anyway.
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Get your ass back to making Battle Angel once all this Avatar stuff is out of the way!
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The very fact that he seems to assume the villains would have to be exactly the same is a little troubling. They couldn't be different villains? I mean you're the film maker.
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"Why?" "Probably because it sounds scary." Golden. Blu-Ray, please, and no sequel.
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I really wish you guys put more thoughts in your headlines. 95% of the time they either don't make sense, or they're such a let down.
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True Lies was a buttload of fun. I mean, where else can you see The Terminator bash two rubber dogs together?
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You know I just got around to seeing "True Lies" for the first time a month ago. Somehow missed that it was a Cameron picture and I've seen all his films. BIG fan. Mr. Cameron, you made an excellent and beloved action picture. Arnold got to play one of his ONLY fleshed out characters. If the bad guys are a problem, then change them. Even without 9/11 having more Islamic terrorists would have been an unoriginal idea. Have whatever sort of villain you want. True Lies was not rooted in it being Islamic bad guys. It was about Arnold doing what he does best with a snappy script and your superb direction, not to mention Jamie Lee Curtis, and of course Tom Arnold. Arnold does play a spy after all. There are plenty of bad guys you could develop for him to go after.
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Only time in the film when it truly felt like a Terminator movie. I even liked the not-quite-real CGI feel, it brought me back to that rubbery look that Arnold had in the first Terminator movie.
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Just 2 hrs of Dushku sitting on the beach. TRUE LIES 2: DUSHKU ON THE BEACH.
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Like fuck she did.
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Its the 20th anniversary of The Abyss this year. Please release a bumper DVD/BD with lots of cool features and an audio commentary please? This film deserves nothing but the best. But I guess Fox will be re-promoting your back catalogue in some way for the release of Avatar, no?
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Love that term....must use regularly.
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I remember in the 90s when we looked at the 80s as a more innocent time. How much more guiltierr are we gonna get?
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Very funny movie, and JLCurtis never looked better.
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Snoogans.
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on the Muslim terrorist angle, just like the rest of Hollywood. Oh and the reason Tom Arnold is the biggest cheerleader for a sequel is because all of his other work sucks balls.
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You mean people are actually holding out hope that there will be another movie co-starring Tom Arnold, Jamie Lee Curtis and Governor Arnold? <p> This goes in the same "Never Happening" file as Vin Diesel's never ending hopes for a Riddick sequel.
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Is that still on?
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She'd probably whip out a bottle of Activia and tell you how good it was for your digestive tract.
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Aug. 3, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST
true lies was based on a french movie. remake + french = good?
by ironic_name
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...letting go of a girlfriend that dumped you. First step is to delete all emails and her pictures from your computer and the number from your cell phone. <p> Second step is to start dating other people. <p> Apply this to a True Lies 2 as you will.
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Aug. 3, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST
Yeah cos Muslims never killed anyone before 9/11
by judge dredds fresh undies
9/11 is just one in a long line of atrocities carried out by one of many terrorist groups. The best thing to do is to mock these people. But this is all moot anyway, because, as previous posters have said, why would you want Islamic extremists as the villains again?!
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..so why should there be a sequel to this snorefest? and Fuck "Jimmy" for putting this over the long proposed Battle Angel. What's next, Titantic 2; the ressurection..?<p>Good, while he's at it, he can exhume Charlton Heston's corpse so that he could once again play that Nick Fury wannabee characture.<p>Fuuuuuuucck!
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I hear Tom Arnold is free
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C'MON! MAKE THE FRIGGIN' SEQUEL!
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i got my hand up her dress and I AM going for the gold!
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Admit it to yourself...it was a ham-fisted attempt all around with poor acting; cliche characters and action scenes better played in a dozen other films. It simply wasn't that great a film. Except Bill Paxton who always entertains.
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TRUE LIES is the worst of James Cameron's moviesThis guy doesn't make very many clunkers but TRUE LIES has NOT aged well. Arnold was funny in it but I'd rather see Cameron and both Arnolds in a new movie then fucking TRUE LIES 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
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Agreed!
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THis is as bad as someone snatching a pic of him begging for change.Now, Cameron's answer is pure class! He could've mocked him, but didn't and he could've distanced himself from Tom, but actually helped him save face. SMOOTH CAMERON!
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TL1 is so overrated.
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I mean, Big Jim seems to have his plate full of bigger fish to fry. Is there some agreement that a sequel could only go forward with Cameron's blessing, does he own the right to the characters or anything? <p> What about letting someone like John McTiernan, Tony Scott, Richard Donner, or even Michael Bay take over. I believe Cameron has even stated that he intentionally tried to ape the style of other action directors like Tony Scott and such for True Lies by employing alot of long lenses (which is usually not Cameron's style). <p> A sequel should probably be about Eliza Dushku becoming a spy and for rival agency and trying to keep it a secret from Jamie Lee & Arnie, who don't want their daughter involved in espionage. They end up all on the same assaignment and eventually have to work together as a family to bring the whole thing off. Call it "True Spies". That's for free, though be it a pretty obvious conceit. So take that kernel and throw it in the popper with a few more and I'll start melting some butter.
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and have him actually read it, appreciate you're message, and legitimately respond to it. Fucking. Ridiculously. Awesome.
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I hear the screenwriter wrote that script as his final project for his screenwriting class in college, and it shows. That ending- or non ending- is terrible. <p> The Smiths get to live happily ever after because hundreds of assassins couldn't kill them before a specified time? So they just all give up? What kind of retarded idea is that?
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I guess the terrorists win if we can't even make fun of them anymore.
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...should be made with Eliza Dushku as the "spy following in daddy's footsteps". She could end up in trouble and Arnie has to come out of retirement to save her. The story writes itself if you ask me.
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And the Bill Paxton plot line/scenes were movie gold. He basically rolled Chet and his character from Aliens and ran with it. PURE GENIUS. Naysayers can suck it.
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Last time I saw him he was a decoy in a PUNK'D episode. The guy deserves better than that. <br> <br> Arnold was outstanding in TRUE LIES and it is no surprise that he's want to go back to that trough.
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We're would could feature racist stereotypes in action movies. I'm reading The New Asian Hemisphere by Kishore Mahbubani and he mentioned True Lies as a real insult to everyone in the eastern world. Yes, I am not so naïve that I do not believe that our moral views are to be preferred, but that’s all the more reason not to use a terrorist as cannon fodder in an action-comedy.
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That's a piece of shit, that movie.
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Eight years of psychotic fascists in power didn't help.
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why waste Arnie's last good years with crap like a True Lies when there's some actual badass shit to be made?
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OBVIOUSLY True Lies 2 isn't going to start filming in 14 months, the only reason to postthis is to have an excuse to say "I emailed Cameron himself...". BUT, I'm actually impressed that he can email Cameron AND get a response, so no shit giving from me.
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Man, can you imagine how great that would look? Her grey mancut ... Danactin yogurt stains on her granny panties ... incontinence caused by yogurt overload ... Oh, PLEASE, let this happen, Crom! PLEASE, CROM!!
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Yeah, you're right. But so many movies break down if you start looking at them through eyes that exist in the real world. Like, for example, in True Lies, the bad guy ride a motorcycle up on the roof, gets about a 30-foot start, bashes the bike THROUGH a plate-glass wall *and* still lands about 150 feet away in a pool on another rooftop. Tongue-in-cheek, yeah I know... but in reality, that bike would not hand landed more than 20 feet from the base of the building when it smashed onto the pavement below. But that stuff is everywhere.
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PC CAMERON!!!
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But True Lies was a tongue-in-cheek, goofy fun. <p> So was Mr. and Mrs. Smith until it became very obvious that the screenwriter had absolutely NO idea of how to end the movie. He should have went back and rewritten then thing so that it didn't include every assassin in the country coming down on Mr. and Mrs. Smith to kill them before some predetermined deadline that allows them to live and get away (why? how the fuck does that make any sense?) if they're not killed. <p> Its just stupid stupid stupid.
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...that's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overdue?
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"Maybe she's sleepy." That was Tom's one and only good role, the one-hit wonder of Hollywood. A great action/comedy, but can't make another without the Governator. Don't need to.
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Aug. 3, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST
why waste Arnie's last good years with crap like a True Lies whe
by Eye_H8_U
Bring on a politically incorrect, gory as hell, unrated CONAN THE KING. Have it focus on laying bloody seige to an entire kingdom of his enemies. It should have a larger bodycount than all of the Terminator, Robocop and Fiday the 13th movies combined. (Never gonna happen but one can dream!)
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Any product that somewhere contains a moustached Paxton uttering phrases such as “a pair of titties that make you wanna stand up and beg for buttermilk...ass like a ten year old boy” will live on forever in eternity.
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Things were just as fucked up before 9/11. Just because something nasty finally happened on our soil, suddenly our innocence is lost? Last I checked, America's history is not a pretty one. Might as well make fun of some fucking terrorists.
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but he should be doing stuff a lot more challenging than a sequel to True Lies, and hopefully bring Arnold along. I would say Cameron should do the Crusade script Arnold has hung onto for years, but since there would be no opportunity for techno-porn or huge volumes of water to play with I figure its not really his sort of thing.
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Robby Rod is trying to make a proper sequel to Predator, let's get Arnie back for that!
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BATTLE ANGEL PLEASE. The perfect vehicle for style story and character blending seamlessly for an intriguing and powerful Sci-Fi cult classic. <P> Please don't let it be an extremely expensive CGI heavy mo-cap 3D movie. They have to be dumb down for wider audiences so they can make their enormous budgets back.
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It's all about not offending anyone other that white people, for the P.R. angle as well as the $$$$ to be made worldwide.
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...in ten lifetimes. He doesn't need to go back to acting. My prediction is that after next year, he'll get a plum spot, like Chairman of the Olympics Committee or something. He'll probably involve himself with private business ventures or public service. <p> You guys need to let the 'Action Arnold' that you remember, go.
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People not finding terrorists blowing things up as entertaining and glib as after terrorists, ya know...came here and blew things up. I'm personally 100% over 9/11 (it was almost eight years ago, for Christ's sake), but I can see Cameron's point.
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they've been doing it for years what made 911 different? The WTC was even subject to a terrorist bombing the year before True Lies was released.
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Big Lob in
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atrocities like 9/11 have happened many times before and continue to happen since that day in many other countries but now that its happened to america itself, suddenly its a whole "world changing event". they can't make those sorta movies anymore? what bullshit, they're just scared to offend people who must be mentally deficient to get offended by a fucking movie in the first place. and those who whine "why picture our race that way?" ....well maybe because most terrorists tend to be your people? like seriously, get a life and move on. i'm white and see MANY white people portayed in many negative ways in movies and tv and do i care? no...because its just a movie, if i dont like it then i dont watch it and look at that...problem solved. seriously...people as a whole are such sensitive twats.
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Let us not speak of it again.
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Aug. 3, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST
After What Ahnold's Done to Our California Budget...
by Read and Shut Up
...in his next "film" he should be forced to wear a tutu and dance the Nutcracker Suite with 'roid-filled syringes poking out of his saggy ass. Bastard.
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a lot. a WHOLE lot. cultural innocence dissipates with each passing decade.
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"but he should be doing stuff a lot more challenging than a sequel to True Lies" <br> <br> Sorry, brother, I disagree. I hope after the onslaught that will be Avatar's release, that Cameron can kick back and throw out a fun, easy film. I personally don't want to wait another fifteen fucking years for another Cameron movie. The guy's such a good filmmaker that he could make any genre proud. I'm not saying for him to got he way of a romantic comedy, but I think Cameron can throw out something quick and fun after all this wait for Avatar.
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Dude needs the Chap-Stick!
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and it still probably could, except that time ain't infinite, and Cameron already has many more intriguing projects on his slate. Thus he should be selective, and although I would love a sequel, it falls way down on the list of priorities, though it would be a good way of clearing the decks by doing a (relatively) lighthearted, fun action/comedy between more 'serious' sci-fi or dramatic projects (yes, this is how Cameron relaxes, by doing $200 million dollar action movies!)<p>I don't know why Cameron says he's uncomfortable about nuke-toting Islamic terrorists, though; presumably a sequel would feature new bad guys - hell, biological weapon-toting Russian Mafia or something of the like. Or does Cameron feel depicting terrorism of any sort to be dodgy territory these days? It's a Bond type story; there could be any type of bad guy/ organization/ villainous plot.<p>I have to say a sequel would be pretty easy to pin down. It would have to be about Arnold and Jamie Lee's life as spies together. A Mr. and Mrs. Smith type affair. You could have the female perspective this time, and have Helen Tasker trying to work out if Harry has defected to another organisation, instead of Harry trying to work out if his wife is having an affair like in the original. Arnie could be the one getting humiliated this time (just to show up those ignorant PC numbskulls who said Jamie Lee Curtis' striptease was 'sexist').<p>In any case, Jim and Arnie MUST work together again on something or other. I don't care if it's Battle Angel (as Ido, cyborg hunter and Alta's father-figure), Avatar 2 (just imagine an Arnie avatar; would probably make the Hulk look like a scrawny weed!), or else something completely new. And good call whoever mentioned the Crusade script (which Arnold still owns); that would be a great fit. Arnold as Hagen the thief turned crusading knight, cutting his way through hordes of Christian/ Muslim fundamentalist warriors in bloodthirsty fashion. I remember a script review here many years ago; sounded fucking awesome - epic scale, dark and cynical tone, with some with very raw and brutal action scenes. As for Tom Arnold, well-he's gotta eat. Throw him a bone, Jim.<p>And ScottinDC, you're full of it. Action scenes done better elsewhere? Oh, really-like Die Hard 4, The matrix, MI 3, etc, etc., all of which have tried (and failed) to mimick True Lies' action sequences ad nauseam? The action set pieces in True Lies are masterful, brilliantly staged and edited, absolutely superlative stuff, quite apart from whatever else one may think of the film. Give me a fucking break.
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that's quite a lovely scene.
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I don't think it's anamorphic and it has zero extras.
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You're decrying "extremely expensive, CGI heavy, 3D mo-cap movies", but then calling for Battle Angel? What do you think BA is going to be? A high school play with effects and props made out of cardboard tubes and tinfoil?
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... or a Blu-ray already? The DVD transfer is like 10 years old!!! I see someone already beat me to this post.
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True, true, true, and no anamorphic for The Abyss either. C'mon Jim!! Don't pull a Lucas on us. Lucas was interviewed for Total Film months before Skull came out, and he was asked when can we expect the Jones trilogy in HiDef. Lucas said he was waiting for the HD DVD/Blu Ray feud to settle...okay, now what's the excuse?
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It is so funny to me that we live in an era wherein a guy like Cameron actually has to take time out of what I'm sure is a very busy day, to simply respond to this stuff before it gets out of hand. This is the same guy that reportedly wadded up and tossed into the trash 90% of the memmos he got from Paramount and 20'th Century Fox, while shooting Titanic on location in Mexico. When THAT guy has to respond to rumor, it's gone too far.
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It's that it's a movie that's great the first time you view it and then the joke is gone (James Bond is a family man). Sure, there's a lot of great action scenes, but I felt that way immediately after watching the movie ("all my friends should see this, but I never have to again"). That same issue would be true of a sequel.
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Ba-bumchhh...
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True Lies was a fun movie, but it's not like "Harry Tasker" ever became a household name. The film worked because of its satirical subplot about a spy's domestic troubles- not because it was a "badass" action film. Action films were a dime-a-dozen when it was made. Besides, Cameron made it perfectly clear that 9/11 killed any chance for another installment and has never suggested he wants to do another one.
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"I got a little dick, it's pathetic" "As soon as I turn around, you're gonna shoot me!" Paxton made that movie, as he so often does.
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Are the FUNNIEST kind!!! Aww man!
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Yeah!!
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Aug. 3, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST
This isn't news or even rumor! What happened to this site?
by Jack D. Ripper
This is ridiculous! This and the RIDDICK story on the front page show how low this fucking gutter dump of a website has fallen! First a "story" about David Twohy's undying hope that a third Riddick movie gets made--it won't, it's been five years since CHRONICLES flopped--and now this; James Cameron shooting down Tom Arnold's undying hope that TRUE LIES 2 gets made, and there was never any real legitimacy to TRUE LIES 2 rumors beyond Tom Arnold's fever dreams. How about publishing a real story? Or even a real rumor? At this point I could just send in nonsense like 'Coppola to make CONVERSATION 2 maybe!' and the story would be my bullshit getting shot down! RIP This Site
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True Lies 2 would never work now. I think it's a good one-and-done movie. 15 years later? Sorry.
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No one cares. You ask most fanboys if they would rather True Lies 2 or Battle Angel Alita? B.T.W. I'm sick of Goonies 2 rumours to.
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Take a shot every time you see Arnold's Stunt Man. You'll be dead of alcohol poisoning before the opening scene in the Castle is over. You want to see THE movie where the star steps aside for the stunt crew, it's True Lies.
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Actually, I can't really argue with you. In fact, I'm usually the one saying something along the lines of what your saying. Good God, I've started spewing the Republican bullshit dogma. Off to shock myself back into being an utterly insensitive twat.
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Just press delete.
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Atleast you guys broke something again... Quit writing articles about stupid fucking toys no one over the age of 13 has any business owning and get some actual COOL NEWS.<br><Br>Tom Arnold begging for work isn't cool, nor is it news. Is there anyone here that thought he WOULDN'T be looking for work?<br><br>I'm sure he's hoping for Big Bully 2, The Stupids 2, etc too - so watch for news from those directors next!
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THE SEQUEL-starring Jamie lee curtis and tom arnold-reprising there roles, as a spy team set to save the world, when jamie lee hubbie is conveinetly out of town! direc-to-dvd, $1,000,000 budget.Co-starring Val Kilmer
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It's strange, back in the day no one made a big deal about protraying the Russians as the bad guys. Russia was the main anti-American force in the world, so they were a natural choice to be the bad guys in spy-action films. No one cared about offending the Russians, and they had the power to wipe us off the map! But now for some reason they can't have radical Islamic terrorists as bad guys because Muslims might be offended? No one would be trying to suggesst that all Muslims are terrorists, but in case anyone hasn't noticed, the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims. I guess Islamic terrorists just aren't "fun" bad guys anymore since 9/11. I don't know about a more "innocent" world back then, but I guess it was less complicated, for better or worse.
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Listening to him talk is almost as much fun as watching his movies. The guy is a legend.
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Isn't ScottinDC hilarious?
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it really is too late for a True Lies sequel, no matter who the bad guys are and even if Eliza Dushku would strip in it, though that certainly wouldn't hurt.
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Suck my dick.
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It goes 1) Aliens 2) Terminator 2: Judgement Day 3) True Lies 4) The Terminator. You know it to be true!
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Aliens, Terminator 2, and Titanic.
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Aug. 3, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST
Also, why Islamic terrorists and nukes? There are other ideas
by Tall_Boy66
Not that advocate taking ANYTHING from "Live Free or Die Hard", but digital domestic terrorists with some hired goons could step aside from the cultural landmines that a wacky, Islamist nuke terrorist movie could do.
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Now that's a true lie that I want to hear about!
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i read this story on comingsoon.net before seeing it here and they make no mention of TL2. in fact Tom even says it isnt a TL sequel, just a project for all three to work on.
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The truth goes: 1) Aliens 2) Terminator 2: Judgement Day 3) True Lies 4)The Terminator 5) Abyss 6) Titanic. All of these movies are within ranges from absolutely great to very good. (that last hour of Titanic sinking is almost worth the previous 2 hours). I didn't put Piranha 2 in there... because, well, you know. and the underwater documentary phase because, well, you know.
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That should have killed the rumor right there. It's bad enough seeing Harrison Ford thinking about doing another Indy. And the original Terminator has a lot more going for it under the hood than True Lies. You can't put a movie as iconic as that behind a popcorn fun movie like True Lies no matter how good a popcorn fun movie it was. Otherwise, you might as well say G.I. Joe is better than Terminator.
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I really want to see the all-out kick-ass Cameron, not the one paranoid about whether he's gonna offend our sorry white asses. OFFEND US FFS!!! I want my eyeballs to be offended. The last time they were was with Fellowship of the Ring (OK Curse of the Black Pearl did a pretty good job too, and Pixar's last 5 years of output). Melt our brains. Slam our heads to the back of the theater. Make us THINK. Make us FORGET about the bullshit in the world, the Zionists owning every ass above ground, the Bilderberg Group etc. Just deliver a great movie with snappy imagination. Oh and don't forget the 'green' message, because you know the world will end if we forget to use energy-saving bulbs and buy food with fuck all substance to it. Movies take me away from all that. This is the last chance for big cinema to exist, it'll all be dead after 2012 for a LONG time. And I'm not talking about the end of the Mayan calender.
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too busy fucking milking the public's wallets by doing 3D versions of his past films.
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..Cameron didn't say, nor imply, that he was uncomfortable in portraying muslims as terrorists. he said, in the wake of 9/11, that sort of plot doesn't lend itself to comedy. But hey, don't let that stop some posters from getting on the "fuck being pc to muslims" tip. It's not about Muslims nor terrorism in general, it's about how we feel as Americans. Cameron just thinks it'll be difficult to mine comedy from it.
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of a sequel to get more work. It was a perfect role for him. He's not in demand, so he's riding the True Lies coat tails.
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Aug. 3, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST
The only worthwhile part of Titanic 3D would be...
by scriptgirl_nipples
Kate Winslet's tits. The rest of that shitfest deserves to be fucking sunk, and rotting on the ocean floor.
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...has never had a problem making movies about and,yes,glamorising the IRA even when they were murdering men,women and children on British soil.
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True Lies is my #10 all time favorite movie, so I could do with another. :D
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Aug. 3, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST
Now, as to this, "white people get smeared all the time" sentime
by AnakinsDiapers
...Here's the difference:<p> When a white person is portrayed in a negative light, that person is judged as an individual, when, let's say, a black person is portrayed in a negative light, that person is judged as a representative of his race, and thus all are seen in the same light. Being a black man, i see it happen all the time. <p> Just one example from the file cabinet: three friends and i are drinking at a bar. One of the three is black, the other two are white. We meet a group of white guys and hit it off. Drinks are consumed and laughs are made. As i'm wont to do, i head off to mingle in the crowd and have a drink with others i know. When i return to my three friends, the black one looks kind of deflated and somber, while my two white friends look like they want to kill something. the group of white guys are gone. I ask what happened. My two white friends tell me the other guys had to go, but as they put their coats on, they turned to my black friend and said, "you're ok, for a black guy", and out the door they went.<p> Now, do i know some black folk who think in those terms about white folk. Yes i do. But it's not nearly as culturally saturated as the flip side.
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As others have said in this talkback, the current True Lies DVD transfer is well over 10 years old and the DVD has zero extras on it. It has been LONG overdue for a special edition upgrade, and yet James Cameron has blocked that for many years because he feels the film reminds people too much of the 9/11 tragedy. A special edition WAS in the works way back in 2001, then 9/11 happened and Cameron and the studio pulled the plug in a panic like they were suddenly ashamed of the movie or what emotions it might stir in the public. It pisses me off that he keeps touting this same excuse 8 years later and we STILL don't have a special edition of this movie. I think it's the only major film of James Cameron's that hasnt received the special edition treatment, and that's a shame because it's one of his best movies.
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Aug. 3, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST
tom arnold....even if this somehow happened, no one would care
by StonedWriter88
and the small paycheck you would get wouldn't change your worthless life. of course cameron has to say nice things about tom, to keep his professional image, but i bet him and arnold are like, god, tom, fuck off
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ok that's all well good for the real world, no argument its not the same for other races. but when it comes to movies, i'm sorry if this is judgemental or something but if you get offended, literaly and truly offended by a movie, you need help. i just can't fathom how anyone can be offended by entertainment. i dont care how bad or crude it is, its still just a movie so who cares what its saying you know? the funny thing is when it comes to being PC in movies or tv, 99.9% of the time, the ones afraid of causing offense are usually the only ones who care. the supposed targets tend to not care as much if at all. i mean i think of all the times i see people say something is offensive to black people (TF2 comes to mind), its usually white people who say that and the blacks arent even offended. its just a sad weird world we live in i guess.
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True Lies is a overbloated ridiculous, very pooly acted, movie. And an unfunny remake of a very good French comedy, La Totale.. And there could never be a sequel to True Lies, since there is no sequel to the French version.. The only reason for this article is simply for Harry to brag about emailing James Cameron, and actually "getting a reply from him"... That's not news....
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Tell me the story for James Cameron's Planet Of The Apes.
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I fell asleep about half way in, and the Jamie Lee Curtis striptease was done in a nearly dark room. And the cheesy one liners that would embarrass James Bond. Ugh.
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The real damage done by 9/11 wasn't done by the terrorists; we did it to ourselves. Torture. War crimes. Guantanamo Bay. Habeas Corpus. Posse Comitatus. Further polarization of the public discourse. Just like every powerful empire in history, the true downfall doesn't result from outside forces, but from those within. <BR><BR>It was obvious that the US was not going to have unchallenged hegemony over the world prior to 9/11. It was obvious that India and China would both surpass us in GDP towards the middle of the century. It was obvious that Europe would organize into a cohesive whole and challenge us too. What wasn't so obvious was that we would be all too happy to drain the public treasury by starting multiple wars of conquest, and eviscerating the democratic principles that the country was founded upon.
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At least 60% of the crap I read from you jokers is "Where are the original ideas in Hollywood???" and "They can't film that book/comic/foreign movie, it's already been done and much better!!!" So, what happens? Someone finally comes out and states that a sequel would be pointless and unnecessary and everyone bitches about it! Jeezus, make up your minds already.
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... he called Tom Arnold "funny"!
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you know. Make something his last hurrah. He's easily the best out of all the action stars. He delivered his one-liners hilariously. And he's one of my favorite actors of all time (in all genres). Preferably bring back Ahnold for King Conan! Make it his retirement.
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it wasn't very fun IMO. I did laugh at the "You're Fired" line though. Probably Cameron's weakest IMO (and I don't count Piranhas 2).
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Aug. 3, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST
nobody wants to see arnold and 90yr old jamie lee curtis tango
by HaterofCrap
on to new ideas! arnold will end up being the lee marvin type badass old warrior in movies. which i think is his only logical option unless he does stupid comedies.
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Literally a different genre of movie from the original. Just saying.
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Pretty damn funny semi-autobiographical movie by Tom Arnold.
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Great line.
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Put Shane Black to work on a script, then Put go after someone like John McTiernan, Tony Scott, Richard Donner, Michael Bay, Peter Berg, Antoine Fuqua, JJ Abrams, Martin Campbell, Luc Besson, Louis Letterier, Pierre Morel, Jean Francois-Richet, Florent Siri, John Badham, Peter Hyams, Jan DeBont, Roger Donaldson, DJ Caruso, John Moore, Renny Harlin, Brett Ratner or Len Wiseman to direct. Problem solved.
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Of course they're not doing True Lies 2. That would be just another sequel. The big surprise is they are skipping 2, and going straight to True Lies 3. Starring Abe Vigoda. And Larry Storch. Oh heck, would someone come up with a buddy film for those two guys, it would be hilarious. Maybe they could be elderly bank robbers out for one last score.
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...because Cameron owns the property. He won't direct a sequel and he won't let anyone else either. That's it, guys. It's not happening; let's fold up the tents and hitch on out.....
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But he was really damn good in True Lies I have to admit. Practically steals the whole show. Really enjoyed his performance, and would be a total lock for a True Lies 2. Unfortunately, it is never going to happen. Too much time has passed, and that kind of story just doesn't translate well according to the current political and economical climate.
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I just read an interview with the rapper "The Game". <p> In this article he claims that he has been casted and he plans to gain 35 to 40 pounds (by December) of muscle to play a certain role. He didn't state whether it was a villain or B.A Baracus. What I found interesting is Liam Neeson has been casted to play Hannibal.
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They need money, and they could rock it by themselves. Villain: Pierce Brosnan
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That turtleneck is an experiment in 1980s fashion! ZING!
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or it will suck ass. Solution: Bill Paxton is the hero.
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1.) "Ah'll be back."<BR><BR>2.) "Conziddah daht ah divawce"<BR><BR>3.) You're LUGGAGE!"<BR><BR>4.) "Tawk doo dah hahnd"<BR><BR>5.) "Hasta la vista, BABY!"
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Kinda funny that Grant Heslov went from True Lies to co-writing George Clooney's Good Night, And Good Luck.
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and big lob to star.
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" SEE YOU AT THE PARTEE RIGGSTA! "
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I wasn't aware Cameron actually owned the property rights. Too bad the same isn't true for Terminator.
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"WHAAT THE FUCK DID I DO WRONG!!? TELL ME"
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Aug. 3, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST
You forgot Arnold in Around the World in 80 Days (2004)...
by GibsonUSA Returns
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Please...anything, but my statue of me!"
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Don't be so melodramatic. The sky is falling... Oh my God! The projections for China and India are based on the present growth of their economies. But it's like the magazine Nature a few years ago that claimed women in athletic sports would overtake men and run faster because they were improving their own world records faster. They looked at curves graph. But Nature didn't take into account that women started to compete in athletics later than men, that in the last few decades we have become bigger and stronger, have better training programs, etc... something men in early 20th century didn't have. The growth is always spectacular in the begining, but it becomes a lot more difficult over time to improve just a little bit. And who knows what will happen in a country like China, where the one party system brings corruption in the long run. Maybe they will have a revolution in a few decades. Just don't look at graphics to predict the future. And by the way, the US government did much worse in 1942 with the Japanese American internment under what is I nevertheless consider the greatest US president of the 20th century. America always found a way to redeem itself (like maybe the first, in the history of the world, elected black president in a white majority country). I'm canadian by the way...
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of the 90s imho. Also the best 007 movie that was never made. A perfect blend of action and comedy with its tounge firmly planted in its cheek. A real pity that so mnay dont get that its not meant to be taken too seriously. A sequal would be awsome, but I dont see Cameron doing it, but he could just write and produce (ala strange days), and get a director he trusts to make it.
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Not a one-liner, but I love it. <br> <br> Some great one-liners (as opposed to just memorable lines): <br> <br> "Let off some steam, Bennett..." <br> Don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired." <br> "I lied." <br> "He had to split."
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"Makeitbig" is what you say to guys as you unzip their pants and lick your lips. The very notion that America had to redeem itself by electing a black president is something that only a jackass Canadian would come up with. Redeem ourselves for what, rebuilding Europe after World War II with the Marshall Plan? No surprise you think FDR is the greatest president, he outlawed private ownership of gold coins/bars and confiscated all privately owned gold. Would we still redeem ourselves if we elected a racist black communist that wants to kill all the white people? I mean hes still black so in your white guilt warped worldview everything is ok.
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it completely dehumanizes the vague islamic bad guys, and it ushered in an era of "them" that we hadn't seen since the vaguely Jewish "thems" of the early horror films that preyed upon people's latent anti-semitism. it was the first movie that tried to get your balls to swell by watch Schwarzenegger blowing up muslims like you'd pop tic-tacs.<p> from John Simon's review: "The enemy here--ill-defined, all-purpose Arabs--is a bunch of gibbering idiots, playing with their expensive weaponry in Three Stooges fashion."<p> and the entire plot of him lying to his wife, treating her like a complete rube, then jealously following her, having her arrested and handcuffed and terrorized all to prove his own power over her, manipulating her, forcing her to strip for him as a phony character, it's just completely pathetic. <p> but people still remember it fondly because "bridge go boom real good!" <p> I urge you to rewatch that shit show, and if you still think it holds up, more power to you. but I expect a little more from the glowing screen. <p> "women, can't live with em, can't kill em!" yeah, great cinema, right there. fucking pathetic that people remember this film fondly...
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Having a little dick? That and Tia Carrere is what I remember bout the 1st.
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seem like you take the film way too seriously. The arab terrorists are portrayed that way because its a damn joke, a very un-pc joke, but a joke. In fact everything you accuse the film of is why its funny, intentionally so. It just seems you dont get it. Try being in on the joke dude, then watch it with fresh eyes, it s damn funny. And it still has awsome action, and one of the best Bill Paxton characters ever imho...
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Aug. 4, 2009, 1:54 a.m. CST
If you take True Lies seriously, you'll see it as offensive/regr
by Tall_Boy66
But the film is a comedy at it's heart. The action goes boom is meant to be entertaining boom. the horribly sexist lines and plot and pratfalls - that is supposed to be funny. any movie when you have a guy say, "I have a little dick, it's pathetic" is meant for something you're supposed to laugh at. But there is heart in there, the two rekindle their loveless marriage... by blowing shit up. Together. As a family. Basically, Harry being a spy = having something passionate on the outside of his home life. once he lets his wife into his passion, their marriage is energized again. And shit blows up. True Lies is a very entertaining flick, but if you think it's supposed to be a straightforward serious action movie, you are watching this movie in the wrong way. Besides, political correctness is for chumps.
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if something's offensive, it better be funny. and I don't find True Lies funny. just making all the arabs retarded, the women rubes or sexpots isn't comedy, it's just adolescent idiocy.<p> I like some of Cameron's stuff, but True Lies was his Michael Bay moment, and I'm glad it's well behind him. you can all watch it over and over again, and jerk off every time Arnold delivers yet another retarded one-liner, it won't bother me. as long as I don't have to watch it again.
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He's also pretty badass. So I don't buy the racism shit.
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god I really hope you're joking...
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If you're offended by it you're a fucking idiot. <p>Fuck me. I'm amazed some TB'ers have the ability to type a sentence.
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...what about`Get to dah chopppppaaaaah!!!`?
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And rather lengthy-don't ya think??
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What an awful film...poor Bill Paxton got cast in one of the most over-bloated pieces of cliche crap in history. And for those saying they want to see Jamie Leigh Curtis strip again...are you serious? Have you seen her recently? Her tits look like tennis balls in tube socks. SHAME ON YOU!
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It boggles my mind that someone could say this is the best action movie ever. It most definitely was a highly entertaining movie, but c'mon, it ain't an action movie masterpiece. The fucking ending alone is so over the top...dude on airplane gets hooked to a missile and fired into the approaching bad guys in a helicopter? <p>comedy.
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Harry can you fire off a quick email to Jim and ask him when we can finally expect to see Aliens SE, True Lies and The Abyss in Blu Ray, we've waited long enough...!
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That's all I want -- god knows Cameron always has shitloads of extra footage laying around.
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No sir, Cameron was aiming for a realistic action flick.
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I'd go for that too! Amazed by some of the comments about Cameron's work, I consider him one of the most consistent filmakers we have, Christ his weakest film is probably Titanic, a film that most of todays Directors would give their right nut to be able to make, I mean really Titanic, with it's haunting shot of the Titanic wreck at the start, or Transformers/2 Terminator Salvation, Twilight/X Men 3, Underworld, AVP...
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Don't know about US cinema's but the ones here in the UK suck, when we went to see Titanic at the Showcase the morons who "work" there showed that initial haunting shot of the wreck in the wrong aspect, it stretched across the ceiling, floor, chairs in the front row, across the emergency exit signs - absolutely shit, thought we were getting to watch it on Imax for free..
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Can go over the heads of some of the buffoons that populate this site. True Lies WAS a spoof; there is no debate about that whatsoever. Whoever said above that this was his Michael Bay moment - you didn't get it. Bay plays these things straight, no irony involved; True Lies is a borderline parody of action flicks, absolutely tongue-in-cheek. THAT is the difference.<p>As for the Jamie Lee sexism critiques, they are ill-informed nonsense. The whole point about the borderline mysoginist speech of Arnold, Tom Arnold, Bill Paxton's characters, etc. is that they are rather juvenile idiots despite being top spies. Harry makes his wife strip because he is a DOUCHE. He doesn't understand his wife, or her true desires, in the least. It is only at the end of the movie, after they have shared their adventures together, that they are truly re-conciled, vis-a-vis the shot of them kissing with the nuclear bomb going off in the distance - a single shot that could adequately serve as a summation of all Cameron's recurring themes and raison d'etre throughout all his filmography, just as the shot of the little boy in the doorway from CE3K could serve a similar purpose as the quintessential shot from Spielberg's filmography. The 'spark' is back in their mariage, so to speak. It is a comic spin on what JC did in The Abyss, and its metaphors for a dying marriage.<p>It's also a very sympathetic film to women in that it's about Jamie Lee Cutis' character escaping the traditional female roles placed on women in society - she is bored shitless in suburban hell as a housewife, wasting her life away, just like Kate Winslet was trapped in her societal role in Titanic, as she says "there are so many things I wanted to do, and I feel like I haven't done any of it yet"; by the end of the film she has escpaed this, and the two take up their new life as spies together, no more secrets or suppressed desires between them. There's a real exhiliration to this, a real joie de vivre to the tone of the whole movie. Why do you think JLC lets out out a huge whoop when she's dangling from the helicopter? That's a pretty thinly veiled allusion to her having an orgasm for the first time in who knows how long. A Anyone who thinks TL is sexist or demeans women (and why would it, based on the rest of Cameron's filmography?) is a fucking tard. TL is a deceptively simple and actually very clever film.<p>Regards the Islamic terrorists (read muslim terrorists, not that all terrorists are Muslims), they are simply stock Bondian bad guys, as featured in many action movies/ spy movies prior to this, not to be taken too seriously, it is only post 9/11 that this has become insensitive; few batted an eyelid before. Anyway, what's Cameron supposed to do? - make up some terrorists that don't exist just to appease people? 90% of terrorist DO come from the middle east. And even still, Cameron - who's a liberal, by the way (did you think, even thought the rest of his movies espouse liberal sentiments, that he suddenly just turned right-wing for this one?)-still deigns to put in the line "you bomb us, our women and childen, and have the nerve to call us terrorists?"<p>Nope, even TL, the most casual and seemingly least weighty film of Cameron's career, has plenty going on. The haters can suck it.
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Aug. 4, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST
I read that the film would not actually be called "true lies 2"
by fireclown
. . but something else and have the spirit of the thing through it. You can swap arab terrorists for something else. Peruvian shining path guys, eco terrorists, white supremacists, mole men, whatever. If it were a different title that would let Camron deny True Lies 2 and still do another ahnold movie. <p> 0.02
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The role of his career, other than A Simple Plan. But the scenes between Paxton and Swarzenegger are priceless.
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I'm just puttin' it out there. No more cliches.
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The first Terminator kicks the shit out of Terminator 2.
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I really like the idea of TL2 focusing on Dushku as the spy leading the domestic life lie to her parents. And then she gets in trouble...and the parents are called back to duty for the happy ending. But for True Lies 3, we begin with Dushku dead, Tom is dead, Jamie is dead, and Arnold is infected with a disease or some shit and he's become a jihadist with AIDS. And then get David Fincher to direct it.
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Aug. 4, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST
when im done with you, this saw's gonna be a part of you...
by Six Demon Bag
no thanks you can keep it.
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True Lies is an action comedy you idiot!
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him constantly and wants him to be his Twitter buddy.
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"the only reason to postthis is to have an excuse to say "I emailed Cameron himself..."" Damn straight. This site has gone a long way from being about fanboys to being about Harry and co.'s celebrity friends.
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Um, nope. Never been true. And the idea of "he was just spoofing Hollywood racism" is plain silly. I remember going to see Back To The Future with an arabic (but not Muslim) friend of my brother, and he just sighed and said "why do they always have to be arabs?" Cameron knew what he was doing. He could have just as easily used Basque separatists or neo-nazis or something like that.
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Nope, not joking. I will agree the film is slightly sexist, but I don't really care. As I recall, a lot of women in the theater were laughing their asses off. It's funny, and I feel like as a culture we're losing our sense of humor because we're afraid of pissing someone off.
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With special guest appearance by Patty Hearst.
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There is only one film I'd like to see an aging muscle-bound hard-ass like Arnie make and that's a version of David Gemmell's novel 'Legend'.<p>It would easily be a defining moment and do for him - and the fantasy genre - what Unforgiven did for Clint and the Western. <p>Then again, that would involve Hollywood commissioning an original script and we can't have that, can we?
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Oh yes, it's entirely possible that water shortages, oil/energy shortages, or climate change could stunt the growth of India and China such that they don't overtake US GDP. Or you could realize that _CHINA ALREADY DID_. Or rather, more accurately, for most of recorded history, China and India have flip-flopped for the country with the highest GDP on the planet. The Financial Times says without equivocation that for 18 of the last 20 _CENTURIES_ China has had the largest economy on the planet. The US and British Empires having the largest GDPs for the last two centuries are, historically speaking, statistical blips that will shortly be eliminated.
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Fun movie, for sure...one of Arnold's last really entertaining romps. But the whole movie was based around the fact that his wife didn't know he was a spy - by the end of the movie, she knew, so...no concept for a second film anywhere. Tom Arnold was absolutely great in it and considering the position his career is in, I can see why he's screaming about a sequel. Unless it's a brand new cast except for him and he's working with some young hot 'tween who's girlfriend doesn't know he's a spy or something and they just rehash it with a fresh young perspective...........oh fuck, I just gave them the whole movie right there. Sorry!!
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"YOU'RE STEWED, BUTTWAD!"
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It is true. 90%, ie. any majority number.I could just as easily have said 75% or anything else, not to be pedantic or exact about it. Nobody said anything about 100%. You knew what I was saying, I think. But the largest and majority terrorists groups and organizations are from the Middle East - and certainly those capable of being an international threat. <p>Let's face it; the IRA or obscure neo-nazi groups were hardly going to be credible threats to the US, even in the context of an action comedy, nor do they loom as large in the public imagination regarding that sort of thing. It was simple story pragmatics, not veiled commentary.<p>Cameron did know exactly what he was doing. Un-PC? Absolutely. Insensitive? Perhaps - though I fail to see how any regular Muslim person could have been offended pre-9/11; I have known many Muslims personally who were fans of the film and had no problem with it. If the film came out NOW, with every person of middle-eastern persuasion getting tagged with the terrorist label by the ignorant, I could see the problem - and that's presumably Cameron's problem with a mooted sequel, too. <p>In any case, the terrorists in TL ARE absolutely intended to be send ups. There is no political content in True Lies. Indeed, Cameron as a liberal probably went out of his way to include the Arab member of Arnold's team, as well as the afore-mentioned line of dialogue, in the interests of equivocacy. Though obviously that didn't appease everybody.
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Harry, this is the iceberg here from "Titanic." My agent just called to confirm that we'll be starting to shoot "Titanic 2 - The Return" in about 14 months. In a strange twist, all my lines are going to be dubbed by Bill Paxton. The plot has the love-child of DiCaprio and Winslett (played by Michael Biehn) travel back in time to...
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They can't make a True Lies sequel cause of 9/11? Guess they've never seen 24 or heard of Jack- I eat arab terrorists for breakfast- Bauer.
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3rd best Arnold line!
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Aug. 4, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST
There was a time when Tom Arnold had lots of food.
by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL
Now he's....gotta....<p>Fuck. I can't even finish this. You know where I was going.
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I'm sick of 911 being the excuse for any action flick without a set of balls. It would be the perfect time for Ar-nuld to crack Muslim heads and kick ass. We are at war and those Islamic cunts need to be destroyed.
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Tom wants it because its the only hit film he's ever had.
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Aug. 4, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST
Love Bill Paxton in True Lies, but his best role was...
by The_Genteel_Gentile
One False Move. Followed by Twister, then A Bright Shinning Lie, A Simple Plan, Frailty and Apollo 13.
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Truly, it actually makes me proud of my roots. It's kind of the opposite of most reality shows. It pretends to make fun of the rednecks, but actually celebrates their joie de vivre. I love it, and Tom does a great job hosting. <p> As far as the rest of it, True Lies sucked. So sexist, so Arnie. Of course, if there was ever a time that a sexist, xenophobic "romp" might hit big...this seems an opportune moment. <p> ps. Always hated Arnold. Jamie "Activia" Lee Curtis...well, hard to believe she's the same person I remember from the eighties. Sad.
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They should make True Lies 2 the same time they make Total Recall 2. When are they going to make Last Action Hero 2 or Eraser 2?
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Amazing grace.....come sit on my face.
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I don't usually type this but I'll give it a shot....."lol".
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haha.
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are funnier than racial jokes. Just sayin'.
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best/crappiest arnold line. also, "conside this a divorce" after capping sharone stone in the dome.
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He was on Howard Stern about 2 weeks ago and stated he and Arnie were planning on doing an action movie, but it would be a completely different story than True Lies.
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Any minute now...Manos! Manos?? Manossss
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Please! I cannot wait to see that made into a movie! the greatest comic of all time!
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fucking true story.
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No joke, bring in McTeirnan and Shane Black and do it up for real. Why? Because Tom Noonan's Ripper is awesome! I'm sorry, but you all know it's true. Too bad Michael Kamen's dead though.
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WHAT THE FUCK!!!
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Unfunny. Years ago, he was on the Emmys with Teri Hatcher. Within 60 seconds, Arnold's sexism was loudly booed (he managed to insult Hatcher; rather than play it cool. Arnold assaulted all women). He was never invited back. I'm no Phil Donahue (who, in retrospect, was a narcisstic, parasitic whore for cheap appleasue), but Arnold's unbridled misogyny was--indeed--offensive. Then again, he had been married to that tugboat, Roseanna.
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I loved True Lies upon release and have watched it numoerous times over the years since, but has anyone else found it getting creepier and creepier each time, the Bond style stuff is great but the whole kidnapping, interrogations, manipulation, the cartoon portrayal of Muslims, the brutalisation of the leads wife, I grow to dislike this movie with each repeated viewing and a sequel could not be made after 9/11, Iraq, Abu Graib etc. Lock this one away please Jim
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originates from END OF DAYS. Addressing a very-pissed Satan, our hero insists, "Compared to me, you're a choirboy!" That's badass.
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is there any truth to this theory?
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"Hah you didnt think i'd say that did you?
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The PLO, Iran hostage crisis, Lebanon, Beirut, Salman Rushdie, the Taliban, 9/11 (and the attack before that which failed), Christian persecution in Muslim countries, jihad against the "white devil" and other stuff we're making up to answer your brother's friend's question. .
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The PLO, Iran hostage crisis, Lebanon, Beirut, Salman Rushdie, the Taliban, 9/11 (and the attack before that which failed), Christian persecution in Muslim countries, jihad against the "white devil" and other stuff we're making up to answer your brother's friend's question. .
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btw, Michael Kamen IS dead.
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