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Has PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 4 Found A Director??

Published at:  Jul 31, 2009 5:22:12 PM CDT


Merrick here...






Since Gore Verbinski left the franchise to head up an adaptation of the BIOSHOCK video game...and since he didn't come back once BIOSHOCK more or less collapsed...one of the bigger questions hanging in the entertainment ether has been: who'll direct the next PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN film?

Seems that question is just about to be answered.

Disney is on the verge of putting Rob Marshall in as director of a fourth installment of “Pirates of the Caribbean,” a move that puts the film on track for a 2010 production start, with Johnny Depp back as Captain Jack Sparrow.
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While Marshall’s involvement wasn’t immediately confirmed, sources said things look good enough that the studio has begun casting new characters that will appear in the picture.


...says Mike Fleming over at VAIRETY.

Marshal, of course, directed CHICAGO, the forthcoming NINE...

...and MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA.

Makes one wonder if PIRATES 4 will have a musical component; not sure such a move would be completely out of place in that particular universe. I doubt this is the case...just thinking aloud...







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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:23:07 PM CDT

    Marshall, eh?

    by jardinier

    CHICAGO sucked.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:24:06 PM CDT

    Who are the ad wizards...

    by wampa 1

    ...that came up with this one?

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:24:20 PM CDT

    First!

    by one9deuce

    Rob Marshall??

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:24:24 PM CDT

    Seems like an odd choice

    by chewyou812

  • Jul 31, 2009 5:24:58 PM CDT

    No

    by belasco_house

  • Jul 31, 2009 5:25:41 PM CDT

    Here's the pitch:

    by orbots commander

    "It's PIRATES but...gayer! And with song and dance numbers!"

    That was tongue in cheek. Honestly, I think Rob Marshal is an okay director, but there are pitfalls. I'm not sure if he could handle a big budget action swashbuckler without going camp.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:26:14 PM CDT

    Hey, that's great. I now give even less of a damn.

    by starwarsredux

    Truly sad about BIOSHOCK collapsing, though. That would've been fun...

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:26:29 PM CDT

    This whole,

    by timahh

    "keep making sequels until the movie absoultely bombs" is getting pretty fucking tired.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:27:08 PM CDT

    you're the next contestant......

    by spikedbuffy

    on stand up and win!!! :-)
    anyone else find it strange that depp keeps coming back for these films?

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:27:50 PM CDT

    Decent choice...

    by thewaqman

    I guess. What this series really needs though is a decent script-writer. The sequels were awful.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:28:09 PM CDT

    Uh... oh. Okay.

    by ogoncho

    Well that is underwhelming.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:29:02 PM CDT

    Those six Oscars were a gross miscarriage of justice.

    by jardinier

    It's not that I don't like musicals -- in fact, I think NINE looks halfway decent. But CHICAGO was just so... artificial, I guess. I haven't seen it since it was released on DVD.
    And GEISHA... as I recall, it was beautiful to look at, but emotionally empty, humourless, and thus very, very boring. Pretty pictures without any real emotional weight are nothing new for the PIRATES franchise, but boredom isn't something one of those films ought to elicit (and at least for me, Verbinski's never were).

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:30:23 PM CDT

    Does anyone care?

    by boosebaster

  • Jul 31, 2009 5:31:09 PM CDT

    Pirates 2 and 3 sucked.

    by rev. slappy

    I don't see how bringing a new director in can hurt anything.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:35:03 PM CDT

    Pirates of the Caribbean 4?

    by malesheep

    This is about as necessary as The Matrix 4 directed by Baz Luhrmann.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:38:27 PM CDT

    This actually gives me a little hope.

    by larry of arabia

    That last two movies needed some restraint. Captain Jack needs to seem just a little out of place in the world to work and they made a mistake be making him actually seem like an ocean of calm. The cursed pirates of the first one were great because Jack didn't even expect it. Remember his reaction when he saw them? "interesting." Then Davy Jones showed up, and the Kraken, and of course the trip to the land of the dead. All of those actually watered down the character by being weirder than he was. I hope a bit of that odd style of restraint the first one had returns.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:41:02 PM CDT

    Do we really neeed another one?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The third one ended on a high note. Let's not fuck it up again. I don't want to read more bad reviews about why I should hate it.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:42:31 PM CDT

    Bioshock collapsed?

    by angelinasoilboy

    What happened? Anyone got the script?

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:45:53 PM CDT

    It gives me hope too

    by throwmetheidol

    The first one worked because it let pirates be pirates but in the sequels it became just another mythology laden FX series. I'm hoping Rob Marshall puts the emphasis back on human scale things again.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:48:00 PM CDT

    "Piratesh are a girlsh besht fraaaaaynnnnd"

    by thelordofhell

    With Rob Marshall directing, maybe Johnny Depp can meld his Captain Jack Sparrow with his desire to play Carol Channing.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:48:03 PM CDT

    Now all they need to do is cast Russell Brand...

    by pissed off and bitter

    As Capn' Jack's bro. This dude was born to be in a POTC film, seriously.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 5:52:58 PM CDT

    Oh and they should have Tarsem direct..

    by pissed off and bitter

    The Fall was an example of why he can combine whimsy with serious and have some of the best visuals put on film.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:03:08 PM CDT

    I have an idea! Vampire Pirates in..... SPACE!!

    by robertbaron

  • Jul 31, 2009 6:06:04 PM CDT

    Pirates of the Caribbean 2 made a billion dollars

    by trannyformers_apologist

    It must have been a great movie just like Transformers 2 RIGHT?Pirates of the Caribbean 3 made 800 million it must be a great movie too just like Transformers

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:08:03 PM CDT

    I want to see Pirates 4, be like Grease.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Now that would be fucking awesome.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:08:37 PM CDT

    Please...

    by suntzu77

    let this franchise die.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:11:01 PM CDT

    Trannyformers_Apologist

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Please don't tell me you use Rotten Tomatoes to see if a movie is good or not

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:12:32 PM CDT

    It's a boring choice

    by bass ackwards

    But so is the choice to make a 4th Pirates movie.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:13:43 PM CDT

    Russell Brand being Brand....

    by orbots commander

    ...in a POTC movie would be awesome. You could cut a trailer from that alone.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:23:19 PM CDT

    Nobody wants this, really?

    by optimuscrime

    Fuck man, I didn't love the Pirates sequels either, but I didn't hate them. They weren't shit. The first one was amazing and unexpected, and the sequels fell short of its quality, but they weren't poor films (except for the scene where Jack is the leader of those cannibals, that was total shit).Anyway, its always been fun to see Depp in that role, and I'll be there opening day.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:24:17 PM CDT

    Enjoyed the first 3 but..

    by beastie

    the franchise would definately benefit from smaller installments. Oh.. and bring back Geoffrey Rush. He and Depp are the only things that the films need.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:26:58 PM CDT

    Russel Brand is a fucking asshole

    by lockesbrokenleg

    How does he get off acting like a gay pirate on every talk show?

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:27:30 PM CDT

    Nine and Memoirs

    by enderandrew

    I am very interested in Nine, but Memoirs of a Geisha was a terrible adaptation, and a boring film in its own right.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:33:32 PM CDT

    1 fucking singalong and I start busting heads

    by anything but tangerines

    your on thin ice mr. marshall. very thin

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:34:13 PM CDT

    A better question would be...

    by johnno

    Have they found a jolly good reason for a Pirates of the Caribbean 4 at all??? I loved those movies, but somehow I have trouble accepting this...

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:37:12 PM CDT

    Has Pirates of the Caribbean found

    by ballyhoo

    ... someone who cares? Actually I kid. I like the series, so I'm open to more adventures.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:42:38 PM CDT

    Pure Jack Sparrow, and no dull Will and Elizabeth!

    by optimus grime

    The first Pirates as awesome, but then it fell in love with itself and characters kept being brought back even when there was no reason. This one will cut away the clutter and let just Jack Sparrow shine instead of tagging along on Will's tale as he ended up by the third one. And a fresh director will help them steer clear of the nostalgia tripping.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:45:11 PM CDT

    Memoirs

    by banville

    Memoirs of a Geisha was indeed bloody boring as film, but as a book it is even more tedious, it's just crap. So I'm not sure Rob Marshall is entirely to blame for that one as he was working of some really poor source material.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:51:10 PM CDT

    remove all characters except sparrow

    by tiger69357

    That would be the first thing I did to make it new and fresh. It could be a whole new journey. Or been there seen that. I want a fucking awesome shark attack and hot mermaids!

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  • Jul 31, 2009 6:55:09 PM CDT

    Awful franchise

    by juansanchez

  • Jul 31, 2009 6:57:32 PM CDT

    Optimus Crime

    by kateowyn

    I totally agree...the first was awesome, and I'll line up for every installment of Jack Sparrow's adventures. Not least because Johnny is....fabulous. But also because, that's the way the classic pirate stories were written, very episodic, swashbuckling, adventure after adventure. I think the real problem with P2 and P3 were Ted and Terry...they've written some good scripts but were trying too hard with 2 and 3. I liked Gore, but Rob could bring a whole new level of grandiose adventure that would be super fun. Pirates formed the best summer movie memories of my "late youth", more, while excessive, isn't a bad thing.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:05:41 PM CDT

    Get a better writer, these PIRATE stories are a mess...

    by flickapoo

    ...they certainly have their moments...some cool characters, effects...the occasional inspired bit of imagery...but really, just a dubiously coherent stew.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:06:50 PM CDT

    What's the Buzz on Nine?

    by lance rocke

  • Jul 31, 2009 7:08:23 PM CDT

    Sparrow being dead and that whole bit was interesting...

    by flickapoo

    ...trippier than I expected...some really good and unexpected shots...

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:09:11 PM CDT

    Olivia Wilde should be in it

    by estacado1

    She and Keira Knightely are both beautiful and flat chested. So, she'll make a good pirate.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:22:41 PM CDT

    Can anyone out there explain PIRATES 1 to me?...

    by flickapoo

    ...everyone seems to like this one, but as far as I can remember, the Bad Guys want to remove the curse that makes them Undead. To do this they need some Sexy Tomboy Beanpole blood. Not a lot though, baby girl, just a little bit. Incidentally, removing the curse will make them mortal...killable in fact. Our Heroes learn this about half way through the movie, and yet keep fighting (and dying) against invincible Undead Bad Guys. Why? The Good Guys want to keep Sexy Tomboy Beanpoles alive and kill Bad Guys.....Bad Guys want a drop of Sexy Beanpole blood to break the curse and become mortal (killable) again.......the whole second half of the movie is pointless.......why not sit down at the White House, have a beer with Obama and hammer this shit out? Jack Sparrow is very cool though...

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:28:57 PM CDT

    i honestly think

    by ogmios_the_eloquent

    that Marshall is as good, nay, better a director than Verbinsky. That said, it doesn't mean i give a crap about the pirate franchise... never did, never will.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:38:57 PM CDT

    Flicka

    by juansanchez

    I don't 100% remember, but I think it was insinuated the pirates wouldn't just prick the beanpoles' fingers, but kill them. I mean - they are pirates after all.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:43:27 PM CDT

    I loved World's End

    by mattmanreturns

    Dead Man's Chest dragged on too long with some very repetitive action scenes (getting stuck in rolling objects and too many Kraken attacks). But World's End was one of the more satisfying third movies, relying on the characters, and it wrapped everything up nicely (I especially like the bittersweet end to Will and Elizabeth's story). I love the cinematography and music, and the final action scene is perfect. I think there's room for a 4 with Jack and Barbossa, as long as they try something new and don't rehash too much.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:45:58 PM CDT

    You forgot about Bootstrap Bill

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The pirates made a mistake in sending Bill to the bottom of the ocean, they did that BEFORE they realized the curse was on them. So, they had to go get Will Turner's blood to lift the curse.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:48:23 PM CDT

    Huh-ate Gore Verbinski

    by marcspector

    Good riddance. This new dude cannot possibly be worse.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 7:49:39 PM CDT

    Get a fucking Bee Gees number in there!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

  • Jul 31, 2009 7:51:48 PM CDT

    And Kelly Brook as a Pirate!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

  • Jul 31, 2009 7:58:07 PM CDT

    Get Penny Marshall to direct!

    by the dum guy

    I haven't a single good reason why.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 8:07:57 PM CDT

    Mr. Sanchez...I guess it might be implied, but my problem...

    by flickapoo

    ...with it is that our Good Guys keep fighting pirates they know are unkillable...and dying by the dozen. Once I knew they didn't need all of Sexy Beanpole's blood but just a drop, my mission would have been to somehow get a drop of my blood on that medallion or whatever to lift the curse because by that point I would have had it with all these unkillable motherfucking pirates on this motherfucking pirate ship. At that point it should have been a stealth mission...stealth mission to get a drop of blood into the Death Star's reactor core and even up this fight...

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  • Jul 31, 2009 8:09:45 PM CDT

    ...so Nine is like a sequel/remake of 8 1/2?

    by the dum guy

    But with singing and dancing about an English actor playing an Italian...

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  • Jul 31, 2009 8:31:38 PM CDT

    Tim Burton

    by the_myhand

    I was actually kinda excited when the Tim Burton rumor was circulating...as long as he didn't "Burton"-ize it...that particular rumor also said something about Sacha Baron Cohen playing Jack Sparrow's brother....which makes me ask the question...what the hell Disney??? That would be perfect!

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  • Jul 31, 2009 8:42:51 PM CDT

    Nice lookin trailer

    by oompacabra

    Tell him to bring along his DP

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  • Jul 31, 2009 8:45:21 PM CDT

    What did we do to deserve another POTC film?

    by savagedave

    One: Good fun
    Two: Bad
    Three: Shite
    Four: Dysentry (probably)

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  • Jul 31, 2009 8:50:52 PM CDT

    i met jonny depp at the edinburgh festival a couple of years ago

    by mixedcompany

    ..i asked him what he wanted to drink, the cunt wanted sparkling water.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 8:59:45 PM CDT

    Geez...

    by jtstarkiller

    So there are three movies coming out this year called 9, Nine, and District 9?

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  • Jul 31, 2009 9:00:16 PM CDT

    Kill the fucking thing. Scorcher vi!

    by evilwizardglick

    Twins and a cooling earth.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 9:01:13 PM CDT

    Junk, junk, junk!!!

    by i am_notreal

    The 3rd movie was a piece of crap. Let's face it. It was like tying a sparkler to your dick.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 9:04:47 PM CDT

    The pirate thing's still going?

    by johndillingers20inchseveredcock

    I was terrified of pirates when I was a kid. I thought they were scary guys who raped everybody, took all their crap, and burned whatever was left.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 9:17:09 PM CDT

    Meh

    by i_am_error

    He brings no excitement to it whatsoever.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 9:35:12 PM CDT

    NINE RAPED MY CHILDHOOD.

    by lutz

    Fergie as Saragina. No. No. No.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Yeah, that would traditionally make someone a cunt.
    But, ... he has lived in Europe a while. So, I am willing to write-off that "sparkling water" crap as just too much Europifcation.

    At least he hasn't picked up a British accent and turned into a fake-Jew with superpowers like Madonna. I have no respect for her Catholic-self playing at some mystic version of Judaism.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 9:48:49 PM CDT

    CAPT JACK!!!!!!!!!!!

    by alice 13

    im there. i wanna see capt jack and barbosa go at it.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 9:55:07 PM CDT

    9 is going to be so much better than Nine.

    by kirttrik

  • Jul 31, 2009 10:07:06 PM CDT

    Sparrow vs Barbossa

    by thedudeinla

    These two are the heart and soul of this franchise. Keep with the two of them and it will work it's self out perfectly.

    Oh...and don't forget the usual sidekick suspects.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:07:09 PM CDT

    Bootstraps' bootstraps

    by sodomy_joe_shitpants

    This will have a giant robot in it somehow. Johnny, Johnny, Johnny. Wherefor art thou, good arthouse film Johnny? These bloated turds waste you.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:08:46 PM CDT

    Hey, you know what-

    by sodomy_joe_shitpants

    Get Eddie Olmos in there as a bad guy pirate. How fucking rad would that be? Him and his soccer-cleat-kicked face with an eyepatch and a gold tooth? Cinematic history.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:11:31 PM CDT

    Someone tell Depp

    by awardgiver

    more of us are waiting for a Dark Shadows movie than another Pirates sequel. Let it go.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:20:30 PM CDT

    I'm not waiting...

    by em_tee_em

    ...for a Dark Shadow movie. Nothing against it, but it doesn't really mean anything to me as a property. Plus, I'm not sure if you noticed, but it's failed two previous times as a series. Again, I'm not saying that failure has any sort of indication on quality.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:22:57 PM CDT

    Flickapoo...

    by em_tee_em

    ...like it or don't, but I think you need to watch it again because Elizabeth Swan's blood doesn't factor into the equation at all. The ghost pirates think it does at first because she has the coin, but if you actually watch the movie all the way through you'll learn what's really going on.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:25:12 PM CDT

    optimus grime...

    by em_tee_em

    ...Jack isn't tagging along on Will's story they are both tagging along on Elizabeth's story. She's the main character. The entire trilogy is about her.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:25:20 PM CDT

    Captain Jack Sparrow vs. Captain Jack Harkness!

    by johndillingers20inchseveredcock

  • Jul 31, 2009 10:26:48 PM CDT

    Oh my god...

    by em_tee_em

    ...it sounds like lockesbrokenleg like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. If we've actually discovered something he likes this would be more significant than finding life on Mars.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:27:27 PM CDT

    Yeah yeah yeah...

    by em_tee_em

    ...I just got back from the bar and I'm posting too much. Sue me.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:30:28 PM CDT

    No, the Pirates thought she was a Turner because

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Elizabeth said her last name was Turner.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:32:40 PM CDT

    Yep...

    by em_tee_em

    ...you are correct, and I forgot all about that. But she also had the coin, right? That's what drew them there when it touched water?

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:34:35 PM CDT

    em_tee_em...really? Am I that far off?...

    by flickapoo

    ...I thought it was OK fun, but I can't imagine I'll see it again any time soon. Nobody seems able to remember how it goes for sure though...that alone tells you something...

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:39:33 PM CDT

    Flickapoo

    by em_tee_em

    They need Will and not Elizabeth. He's a Turner. They just think she is at first. I accept that they're not to everyone's taste, but I enjoyed all 3 of them. Even 2 which I only found so-so in the theater, but came to appreciate at home. I like the world they've created. I like that they're fantasy films, but they're not based on the normal knights and elves and dragons template. They're just fun... or at least they are if you're me.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:40:39 PM CDT

    i;m down with a Pirates 4

    by bone_white

    or five evan. I'm just praying for one really good Jack Sparrow adventure on film, less Legolas and more traveling around pirating. I liked what the dude up above said about the characters and enviroments getting weirder and overshadowing Jack too much. wouldn't mind something like a raiders of the lost ark with pirates.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:53:55 PM CDT

    em_tee_em...but they don't need all of the blood...

    by flickapoo

    ...just a bit right? I'd make a deal. And I enjoyed the movies too...my trick is just to have at least three drinks and let the visuals and Johnny Depp coolness wash over me....and I thought the much maligned second two put some things on screen I've never seen before...that goes a long way with me.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 10:56:37 PM CDT

    BUTT PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN

    by pixarssup

    seriously a musical director?

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  • Jul 31, 2009 11:32:12 PM CDT

    Nine looks boring....

    by nuking the fridge

    Boring as fuck.

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  • Jul 31, 2009 11:39:41 PM CDT

    Captain Jack Sparrow & Captain Jack Harkness...

    by seth_rogens_hairy_breasts

    fucking each other in Pirates 4.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 12:33:20 AM CDT

    KEEP STAGE AND FILM SEPARATE DAMMIT

    by gruemanlives

    STAGE HAS TO COMPENSATE FOR WHAT IT CANNOT PROVIDE WHAT MOVIES CAN.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 12:33:58 AM CDT

    PIRATES 27 : LEGACY

    by gorgomel

  • Aug 01, 2009 12:52:12 AM CDT

    memoirs of a geisha was crap

    by disfigurehead

    casting a chinese as a japanese? Please!

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  • Aug 01, 2009 1:43:15 AM CDT

    gruemanlives

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You are a dumbass, aren't you?

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  • Aug 01, 2009 1:52:26 AM CDT

    They already knew where the island was

    by lockesbrokenleg

    because they had to return all the gold save for that one coin. When the Pirates saw that Elizabeth had the coin, they freaked out. They needed the coin and the blood.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 1:55:33 AM CDT

    FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH storyline?

    by zombieheathledger

    That's what they set up at the end of part 3, will they continue it for part 4? I don't know why this series catches so much flack around here, I've found it quite enjoyable and have watched all three movies a few times (number 2 being my least fave).

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  • Aug 01, 2009 2:04:40 AM CDT

    Really shitty movies

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Terrible writing, acting and directing. There's only one reason to make any more of them - money.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 2:29:30 AM CDT

    FRANK Marshall would make more sense.

    by the_genteel_gentile

    I'm a fan of Rob Marshall, but are we sure you didn't mean Frank, because he's the one known for family friendly adventure fantasies like Congo and Eight Below (not to mention producing and directing 2nd unit on all the Indiana Jones and so forth.)? Also, I don't mind if I'm the only one with enough bravado to say this, but Memoirs Of A Geisha was a GREAT movie. So was Steve Zailian's All The Kings Men, François Girard's Silk and Scott Hick's Snow Falling On Cedars. While we're at it, Michael Cimino's Heaven's Gate was a masterfully realised film as well. I'm not even trying to be cute of facetious, those are totally under appreciated and frequently, to a wild degree, unfairly lambasted specimens of exemplary filmmaking. Shame on you sheep that lap the kool-aid from the toliet bowl of the Hollywood political machine and their superficial image-obsesseed smear campiagns. Y'all are better than that, come on! To all those so called "insiders" and "critical scholars" so frightened of being precieved as naive or (God forbid) uncool; Your sham is trasparent and I will not tolerate such self serving nonscense. The era of aggrandising one's own image at any expense for sake of status is at an end my friends. So tremble in fear cowards, for a storm is brewing and with it rains down truth. Those who have sought refuge under umbrellas of hot air, your reckoning is near, prepair to get soggy. Nothing is more useless than that which is considered "cool". I say; "Down with image, up with conscience", this is my rallying call! Now who's with me?

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  • Aug 01, 2009 2:33:05 AM CDT

    Garry Marshall would make NO sense

    by yackbacker

    That guy is a mensch though. But his PIRATES movie would be a romantic sea voyage with Julia Roberts and Richard Gere.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 2:40:05 AM CDT

    All three were soulless crap

    by mr gorilla

    Horrible, horrible films.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 3:10:27 AM CDT

    I can't stand Nicole Kidman

    by bbbbeeeennnn

  • Aug 01, 2009 3:11:27 AM CDT

    As long as Gibbs is in it...

    by loafroaster

    ...I'm there.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 3:17:27 AM CDT

    No BIOSHOCK, but a PotC 4?!

    by burnhollywood

    Fucking cocksucking son of a two-balled bitch motherfucking cunts.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 3:48:38 AM CDT

    I look at Pirates 4 as

    by muki

    the Han Solo movie we never got after Return of the Jedi. C'mon people, Depp's Jack Sparrow is a brilliant cinematic character. I for one would love to see him in his own adventure.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 3:58:39 AM CDT

    NEW DISTRICT 9 PROMO, VERY COOL....

    by carlthormark1978

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Cy9u_-O54

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  • Aug 01, 2009 4:54:38 AM CDT

    A little thing I liked about the PIRATES franchise

    by zombieheathledger

    I've been on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride probably about thirty times in my life and what I liked about the movies is how they would incorporate a little snippet from the ride in each one. The first had the pirates in jail trying to whistle/entice the dog with the keys, the second one had the slow boat ride thru what seems to me like somebackwater Louisiana swamp (it's right at the beginning of the ride and it takes you thru the restaurant) and it's at the end of PIRATES 2 when they are all going to Tia Dalma's and PIRATES 3 has the "Avast ye, scallywags" bit that's right before you take the big waterplunge in the ride and I think it's in PIRATES 3 after they go over the waterfalls before they wash ashore in Davey Jones' locker. Nice touches, that.
    Conversely, I HATE what they did to the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN ride over the years. First when political correctness first came in vogue they changed it so the pirates were no longer chasing the women but rather the plate of food the women were carrying. Lame. Then after the success of the PIRATES movies they added Johnny Depp all over the damn place on it. Even more lame. By the way, I find it interesting to note that some posters who are professing to HATE the PIRATES franchise have nonetheless managed to see all three. The lady doth protest too much methinks...

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  • Aug 01, 2009 5:29:41 AM CDT

    Also, NO to a Bioshock movie!

    by savagedave

    A lot of what makes that movie great is the choice and decision making that a movie can't replicate. Bioshock isn't just an exercise in art design and subtext.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 6:41:23 AM CDT

    Dancing and singing pirates

    by asimovlives

    Just what the world needed.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 9:11:01 AM CDT

    I need to lay off the drugs

    by savagedave

    That should have read "a lot of what makes that game great".

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  • Aug 01, 2009 9:45:06 AM CDT

    This does not inspire me with confidence.

    by rbatty024

    As a huge fan of the first film, but someone who disliked everything but Depp in the second two, I can only say they need to go big or go home. I haven't seen any of this guy's work because it all looks like crap. Unless they're planning on incorporating more song and dance numbers, I don't know why they're picking this guy.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 10:19:01 AM CDT

    Why is 2 and 3 considered bad?

    by maelstrom_zero

    There seems to be a general consensus among geeks that Pirates 2 and 3 are awful. And while I found 2 to be overly convoluted and rife with pointless plot contrivances (the cannibal island was pointless, as was the repetitive wheel fight sequence), the 3rd one was pretty fantastic.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 10:43:39 AM CDT

    Maelstrom...

    by rbatty024

    I agree that three was slightly better than two but I felt both failed as sequels.

    In general, the sequels failed because they kept on introducing new characters while forgetting the old ones. The love story between Calypso and Davy Jones was absolutely unnecessary and took time away from Will and Elizabeth, who only received a grand total of three scenes during the entire film. Both sequels really stretched themselves in order to feel epic, but an epic movie should come from the story, not the running time.

    Furthermore, unlike the first film, there was no character arch in the second two. Instead, we were given a contrived falling out between Elizabeth and Will, and instead of showing both of them grow into worldly people they all of a sudden gained skills previously unmentioned in the first film. This is especially true of Elizabeth. All of a sudden she becomes Xena with one line of dialogue about learning how to use a sword. Wouldn't it have been more interesting to see her gain those skills over the course of the film? They should have taken a cue from the first Star Wars trilogy where Luke Skywalker's skills grow with each installment until he becomes kind of a badass in the third movie.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 11:03:43 AM CDT

    Wow, seems to be a Devin Faraci Fan club

    by fisting_nell_carter

    posting here! POTC was and is one of the better film franchises. Get the fuck over it. They're big in every possible way, from imagination to execution. Nothing wrong with that at all.
    No, maybe we don't "need" another POTC. Just like we don't need another Iron Man, or Bond film, etc, etc. But why can't we have another one? If people love that universe, and want to see more of it, why not give them what they want?
    I mean we can't ALL be "artists" like that tub of dogshit Devin Faraci. All you little Devin Faraci cock clones need to fuck off.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 11:25:03 AM CDT

    Pirates 3 was one of the worst movies ever

    by manzilla

    The best thing going for the first one was Johnny Depp, not cgi or spectacle. In the second and third one he was sort brushed to the side because the scripts were so convoluted and sloppy. In fact the best part of pirates 2 and 3 was ending of 3 where rush stole depp's ship but depp had the map. That sort of interplay between characters is what was so charming and fresh about the 1st one.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 12:45:04 PM CDT

    I hated the sequels

    by dr_buggerlugs

    The problem was that all of a sudden, Pirates became a 'grand trilogy' when it was plain to see that each film should have been a seperate, self contained Captain Jack adventure - Verbinski and the writers took themselves too seriously and tried to create this generation's Star Wars trilogy when they should have gone the Indy route - my guess I hope) is that they've figured this out now and instead of some film without an ending and where 'the gang's all here', we get another rollicking pirate adventure. And more Barbossa please, the 2nd film sorely missed him and the 3rd flick pretty much proved he's as integral to this series as Jack Sparrow.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 2:49:25 PM CDT

    Pirates 2 and 3 were mediocre

    by ominus

    because of the syndrome 'the more,the better'
    But as long as that wood called actor,Orlando Bloom isnt playing in 4,i dont have any problem with one more sequel.
    Besides didnt Depp say last year that they were going to make a new pirates trilogy?

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  • Aug 01, 2009 2:50:39 PM CDT

    All 3 of them are great

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It's funny to watch you fuckers scramble over all of them to slam them for some non issue points.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 2:51:12 PM CDT

    Monkey Island would have been a better

    by ominus

    choice for a new movie.
    Besides both Monkey and Pirates are based on the same Pirates theme park in Disneyworld.
    But MI is the better,funnier take on that,imho.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 2:55:16 PM CDT

    Poor ominus

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Still using an Amiga computer.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 3:08:28 PM CDT

    Why u say that lockesbroken?

    by ominus

  • Aug 01, 2009 4:35:52 PM CDT

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    by themancalledflane

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  • Aug 01, 2009 5:13:14 PM CDT

    It's interesting, Rob Marshall certainly insn't the obvious choi

    by the_genteel_gentile

    My more obvious picks would have been thus: 01. Joe Johnston 02. Kevin Reynolds 03. Martin Campbell 04. Wolfgang Petersen 05. John McTiernan 06. Jan DeBont 07. Roland Emmerich 08. Stephen Sommers 09. George Miller 10. Phillip Noyce And my wild card pick would have gone to Shakar Kapur. But I must admit the prospect of Rob Marshall doing an epic fantasy adventure does intrigue me so. Geuss we'll see what we see.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 5:15:24 PM CDT

    g'U'ess.

    by the_genteel_gentile

    Oh for the want of an edit feature.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 5:17:55 PM CDT

    The Pirates movies were silly fun..

    by conspiracy

    But for 4 all I want to see is Depp, Rush, and Pirates being fucking pirates. Also, we need a lot more fucking Barbossa...theat fucker is the shit.... Rush chewed the fucking scenery like a motherfucker...his performance is the only reason I re-watch #3.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 5:40:18 PM CDT

    Yeah, I liked 'em all! Verbinski actually did a brilliant job.

    by the_genteel_gentile

    Better than it had any right to be really. I don't know what y'all were expecting, Lawrence Of Arabia or something? Just some good old fun entertainment at the cinema, technically accomplished at an exceptionally fine level. What else could you possibly ask for? The characters were defined, the acting was good, the FX and cinemotography were stunning, the action sequences were pretty great, Zimmer's score got progressively more lush and epic. The plot was coherent enough, and if not the other aspect were done on such a level as to forgive any misgiving on plot specifics. The movies ought to get a pass just Keira Knightley and Dariusz Wolski's involvement alone. Davey Jones is up until this point still the finest realization of a CG character, John Knoll is a bonafide master. So all in all, a pretty good deal.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 5:45:29 PM CDT

    ^ add an "on" somewhere up in there.^

    by the_genteel_gentile

    as in: "The movies ought to get a pass just ON Keira Knightley and Dariusz Wolski's involvement alone." sorry, but typing in a tiny box isn't exactly ideal. I know you all can feel that, even if you disagree with me on every other point.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 5:51:08 PM CDT

    Can Zack Snyder do it instead?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    He;s good with the visuals, and characters. Id like to see his take on it.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 6:55:40 PM CDT

    Renny Harlin!

    by pollaxt

    He'd make a great Pirates movie...

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  • Aug 01, 2009 7:20:25 PM CDT

    As long as Elizabeth is outta there, I'm okay with a fourth

    by feralangel

    Swear to God, she damn near ruined the whole film series for me. Remember when she stowed away on a pirate ship, dressed in guy clothes but with her face unsmudged and undisguised? And we're supposed to believe the other pirates wouldn't notice her obvious feminine facial features? Gimme a break! Those guys weren't out at sea THAT long! I figure Ms. Knightly probably refused to get her face dirty, lest it minimize her ony real contribution to the franchise. Plus she was too "I-am-woman-hear-me-roar" for my taste. Women deserve better than to have superiority handed to them on a silver platter in a film. It's condescending and insulting. It's affirmative action (fancy liberal word for tokenism). So anyway, if she's not in the film, huzzah! How about a good female character, based upon real female pirates like Grace O'Malley or Mary Read? That'd inject a female character into the franchise in a way that's believable and fun. Anyhoo, I'm looking forward to this. No Elizabeth and a good solid story and I'll be a happy swashbuckler. Arrrrrr!

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  • Aug 01, 2009 10:05:16 PM CDT

    As long as that LIMIT JACK'S SCREENTIME, it can be good.

    by gibsonusa returns

    Awesome character, but one that can get old quick if you have him on camera and in-your-face constantly. Have him as technically a main character, but with supporting cast screentime. That was the audiences will appreciate him when he is there.

    What this means is, though, is that they would have to write some interesting story that does not include Depp to fill the rest of the movietime.

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  • Aug 01, 2009 10:51:46 PM CDT

    Nice one pollaxt

    by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks

  • Aug 02, 2009 12:24:12 AM CDT

    Movie should be 1.5 hrs, Depp debuts 30 mins in.

    by gibsonusa returns

    Movie should be a very refined, fun-filled 1.5 hrs. Fast moving story that never slows...gets the audience happy then rolls to credits...dont try to be anything more.

    Depp should not appear until 30 mins or more into Pirates 4, to build up anticipation...The storyline should be strong enough to carry the movie without him for that long, such that some audience may have even forgotten about him....then wham, here he pops in to ovations...

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  • Aug 02, 2009 1:21:40 AM CDT

    Overrated ride = overrated movie series

    by hb_dad

    On the ride, the fun ends after the second drop and its just a wait to get off the damn ride to go to a FUN ride such as the nearby Indiana Jones ride. The movies are much the same with me where they have a couple of cool moments buried in tedium. I guess its only a matter of time until we get a pathetic Space Mountain movie cash-in!

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  • Aug 02, 2009 1:28:17 AM CDT

    Less serious and convoluted would help

    by redmond

    And some Keira Knightley nekkidness definitely would helpl.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 1:49:56 AM CDT

    R rated Pirates.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Aug 02, 2009 2:12:53 AM CDT

    Why PotC 3 sucked

    by burnhollywood

    They killed the kraken and that Robbie Williams-looking guy punked out Davy Jones into being his bitch. This was in addition to a plot that was a convoluted load of shit, that even wasted the hot voodoo chick.
    I can't believe it didn't occur to any of the assholes at Disney to have a showdown between Davy Jones and his crustacean crew and Barbossa and his skeleton squad. Unimaginative dickheads.
    Straight up FPOS. If you can't see that, it's because you're a little kid posing as an adult.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 2:17:26 AM CDT

    Um, I thought they already did that?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    We had the British,Davey Jones Crew, and Barbossa's crew fighting at the end in the giant whirlpool. Davey and Jack Sparrow even had a sword fight.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 4:28:52 AM CDT

    As I've said before, send Sparrow back in time

    by dingbatty

    via the Bermuda Triangle, to the Golden Age of Piracy. So that he can actually do piratical stuff, such as attack ships and steal their loot and lucre. Setting things in a melancholy twilight of high-seas piracy has been done, and is dull.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 4:37:04 AM CDT

    They wasted the interesting character

    by dingbatty

    development of Norrington, in #2. And it was kinda odd how Zoe Saldana's character disappeared.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 5:00:55 AM CDT

    Yeah, Norrington

    by belasco_house

    should at least gone out with style. That sucked. His character was the most interesting in DMC

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  • Aug 02, 2009 5:01:49 AM CDT

    *have* gone out, sorry

    by belasco_house

  • Aug 02, 2009 8:00:10 AM CDT

    I'm going to be a proud hater

    by bendersshinyass

    The world is fucking insane when it comes to pirates love. I just don't get it. the films make no sense. the characters mean nothing. the gags are ridiculous. the music is annoying. and the running times are incomprehensiblei can agree on one thing - johnny depp is gold - but even he seems to look sideways as if to say "i can't believe they're paying me for this shit" What is it exactly that people like about these films? I just. don't. get it...

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  • Aug 02, 2009 10:42:40 AM CDT

    I hope Verbrinsky will do a great job with Bioshock

    by ominus

    Please dont fuck this videogame,just this one.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 10:54:14 AM CDT

    Bender-

    by fisting_nell_carter

    We could fill the Universe with all the things you don't "get".
    By thw way, what sort of mouthwash do you use to get the taste of Devin Faraci's cock out of your mouth? Listerine? Scope? Turpentine?

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  • Aug 02, 2009 11:27:33 AM CDT

    Bender

    by throwmetheidol

    If you look at some of the big phenomenons this decade: Survivor, Pirates trilogy, Lost - the common denominator is a tropical setting. That setting is just in these days for whatever reason. It's truly amazing that this isn't exploited more by copycats. Like every time someone tries a Lost clone they forget to set it in Hawaii or the Caribbean or somewhere similar.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 11:47:19 AM CDT

    Pirates 2 and 3

    by detective_fingerling

    I can't think of the plot for 2 that made it different for 3.
    Not joking around or anything, but I think 2 was about Davey Jones and 3 had Jack on a tropical island for 45 minutes and then Davey Jones came back for the last two hours?

    I think it'd be awesome to do the Fountain of Youth, but I love the Bermuda Triangle idea even better.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 12:02:34 PM CDT

    Keira Knightley will NOT be in any more Pirates.

    by conspiracy

    In case you dudes have forgotten...Keira is a "Serious" actress these days, far above any more Disney silliness; as I remember she was a royal pain on set, and didn't want to do them after #1. I bet she gets implants and goes full nude within 5 years as her popularity wanes.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 12:03:06 PM CDT

    Get Jim Carrey as the other pirate.

    by gibsonusa returns

  • Aug 02, 2009 12:03:56 PM CDT

    Still....Keira Knightley is hot..

    by conspiracy

    and I'd love to see her in full on sex scene...perhaps a Gonzo Anal scene with Jack...and I mean the Monkey, not Depp.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 12:04:11 PM CDT

    Replace Knightly with Anne Hathaway....

    by gibsonusa returns

    A good % of the audience may not even notice.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 12:22:54 PM CDT

    replace her with an actress,for start

    by ominus

  • Aug 02, 2009 3:00:10 PM CDT

    BendersShinyAss

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Hey man, it's okay. I'm sure someday you'll understand those gosh darn confusing Pirate movies. Until then enjoy your pretentious collection of Evil Dead movies.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 4:58:26 PM CDT

    Bioshock Collapsed?

    by polyh3dron

    God fucking dammit. That would have been awesome with Verbinski at the helm. Any time a good director attaches themselves to a surefire hit video game adaptation it always has problems. Yet Uwe Boll keeps making movies.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 7:39:06 PM CDT

    I didn't like the sequels...

    by greenriver

    But I thought the ending where he returns to her while she waits by the sea with their son was very touching.

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  • Aug 02, 2009 10:53:34 PM CDT

    Video game movies are cursed.

    by orbots commander

    It's like the Curse of the Bambino but with movies.

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  • Aug 03, 2009 1:33:54 AM CDT

    Never mind the director...

    by biggusdickus

    ...can we have a coherent plot and a half-decent script this time?

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  • Aug 03, 2009 1:35:07 AM CDT

    And sorry, but Anne Hathaway...

    by biggusdickus

    ...looks like Michael Jackson.You know it to be true.

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  • Aug 03, 2009 8:00:29 AM CDT

    Wait, what?

    by orbots commander

    Anne Hathaway is a beautiful-frickin' girl. Not all her movies are my cup of tea and they usually get the wait-for-cable treatment from me, but her looks? What are you, blind?

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  • Aug 03, 2009 1:09:51 PM CDT

    I'll follow Sparrow through the gates of hell...

    by azlam orlandu

    ...for several more movies, but I don't want to see Bloom or Knightly in these films anymore. They should just call it 'The Adventures of Jack Sparrow' from this point on.

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  • Aug 03, 2009 1:42:22 PM CDT

    Orbots Commander...

    by biggusdickus

    http://tinyurl.com/nfol8z

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