Quint's exhaustive look at the Warner Bros Comic-Con Panel! NIGHTMARE remake! BOOK OF ELI! SHERLOCK! WTWTA! THE BOX! JONAH HEX!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a doozey of a report from the 2 ½ hour long Warner Bros panel. Tons of stuff, so no bullshit chatter up front. Let’s get down to it.
NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET
Count me surprised that I liked this footage. Look, FRIDAY THE 13TH is one thing. I love that series just as much as I love A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET, but it’s really all about the fun… the gore and the scares whereas NIGHTMARE is much more cerebral and strikes a different, deeper chord for me.
That means it’s a tougher nut to crack and one I wasn’t sure Fuller and Form could pull off.
And I’m not 100% onboard, but damn the movie looks sharp. The footage opens with a man running in slow motion down a dark street, chased by a car. Is it a dream? Is it not? I couldn’t tell at first.
The dude is wearing a jacket, but is nondescript. He ends up running into an abandoned building and lock the door as more cars show up and an angry mob spills out, including Clancy Brown (the Kurgan!).
Inside we get our first look at the runner and it’s Jackie Earle Haley, panting and scared. Brown calls out “Kruger! Get out here you sick son of a bitch!” while pounding on the door. Haley screams through the door that he didn’t do what they say he did.
Brown doesn’t seem to give a shit, lighting a gas can and throwing it through the window. The fire spreads, catching on Haley’s feet. He screams as it jumps up to his clothes. He strips off his jacket, trying to get away from the fire and reveals the red and green sweater as he’s engulfed in flame.
Then outside we see the nearly evil, blood-thirsty faces of the parents as he screams inside… the door flies open and in slow-motion Kruger runs out, full body burn.
The rest of the footage was a mix of nightmare imagery and our teens realizing what they’re up against. The nightmare imagery wasn’t as surreal as the original, but still looked good. My favorite being the jump rope girls (yes, we get the One, two Freddy’s comin’ for you creep-out song) looking solemnly down at someone, the front of their dresses with stitched over claw marks.
There’s also a good scare in an attic as Nancy (I think) is looking around in the dark. Her flashlight settles on Kruger’s hat sitting on a crate. The beam settles on it for a moment, then she pans off, looking away. Then she looks back and the light reaches the hat, but now it’s on Kruger’s head, eyes peering at her over the edge of the crate.
The reason I’m not 100% committed is that every time I got comfortable with this new iteration of Freddy we’d get a flash of the Tina death scene (her rising out of bed) or Tina in the body bag at school… and it’d just remind me of the original, forcing a comparison. I kind of wish the remake would just be a reboot, new Freddy, but completely different cast of characters.
In other words, I wish they had approached it like they did FRIDAY, where we get a recap of the villain (the parents burning Kruger), but then have Freddy haunting a new set of kids. That way it wouldn’t force a comparison, you see?
It wasn’t exactly easy to see Haley’s make-up, but it’s pretty clear they’re going for a smoother burn look, more realistic and less theatrical than Robert Englund’s original.
We’ll see. Freddy’s one of my favorite movie monsters and the vibe I got from the footage was good. The tone is more serious and less campy with Kruger (we didn’t see much of the teenagers doing their day to day, but I don’t expect much real development there and more of the same exploitationy sexed up, drugged up kids).
On the panel were Brad Fuller, Andrew Form, director Samuel Bayer and star Jackie Earle Haley. There wasn’t a whole lot of interest talked about, but Jackie Earle Haley talked a bit about his characters over the last few years and ending up now as Freddy Kruger. Haley said “I was the tortured soul, now I’m the torturing soul.”
He also said his make-up took 3 ½ hours getting in and an hour to get out of.
The flick opens April 30th, 2010.
THE BOOK OF ELI
Because of my hectic interview schedule at the Con and a set visit immediately after, this report is coming a few days after the fact, so Warners has already released the trailer for THE BOOK OF ELI, which can be seen at Apple. So, that saves me a bit of work on describing what was shown.
They also showed a bit of a moving graphic novel, which looked good, but wasn’t the best thing to kick off the panel. That told the story of Billy, who I am told is Gary Oldman’s villain character, who, as a kid, burned the shit out of his redneck parents because his dad caught him looking at a nudie magazine and beat the hell out of him.
The trailer looks pretty good, right? I’m a huge fan of post-apocalyptic movies. Even bad ones… but we haven’t gotten a really good one in a while. Despite the mixed word, I’m hoping THE ROAD is a return to form, but if it isn’t this one is the next best hope.
The panel was fascinating… You had people going batshit crazy for Mila Kunis (mostly guys like me who are in love), then even more craziness for Gary Oldman (naturally) and then super-celebrity crazy for Denzel Washington.
Washington was on fire and probably the only person who could get away with saying “My nigga” on a panel (in response to a fan shouting out “You’re badass!”).
Interesting tidbits from the panel:
- The Hughes Bros said they were inspired by PLANET OF THE APES (original) for this movie. Not that there’s human-sized apes running around in THE BOOK OF ELI, but in the way that APES brilliantly mixed art, commerce and adventure.
- Oldman plays a villain trying to get the book that Denzel is protecting, which Oldman’s character believes is a means to absolute rule and power. After a pause someone joked “It’s a comic book.” That got a laugh. Then Oldman threw in “It’s a graphic novel by a guy named JC,” which probably means Denzel is carrying a bible.
- Washington trained for 6 months in various martial arts and did all of his own fights in the movie.
- Oldman was really funny on the panel. He was asked why he keeps getting villain roles and he says he has no idea. He said he’s not physically threatening to anybody and that “naked I look like a bald chicken.”
- This was the panel where Oldman dropped the “Batman’s shooting next year” bomb. I interviewed him after the panel and he seemed a bit distracted. The interview didn’t go well, actually, and when I followed up on the Batman thing he back-peddled. I get the feeling he got an earful from Warners and I’ve heard from a few people in the know that said he stuck his foot in his mouth. We’ll see what happens.
I also got to interview The Hughes Bros and Mila Kunis, both were great interviews… Kunis is absolutely adorable and sweet and The Hughes Bros are gigantic movie geeks. I could have talked to them for hours.
I noticed a disturbing trend at the Warner Bros panel… Someone at Warners has a scarred face fetish. Freddy, obviously, Jonah Hex is fucked up and so is Frank Langella in THE BOX. We’ve known this for a bit, but the footage they showed really features Langella as the mysterious man at the door, offering Cameron Diaz and James Marsden a to-good-to-be-true deal. For the pressing of a single button they will receive a million bucks.
This is money they desperately need and the flick is set in the ‘70s, so that money is even more life-changing to them.
The only catch is that the pressing of the button will kill someone, somewhere on the planet earth. They’ve never met this person, but he or she will be gone.
Okay, so that’s an iffy moral choice to begin with, but when the man offering you this choice has half his cheek rotted away you never, ever push the button. Cameron Diaz should have known better!
The footage Richard Kelly (along with Cameron Diaz and James Marsden on stage) showed played up the offer and the lack of real dilemma. Marsden and Diaz are sitting at a table with the box (dome open and button exposed) in between them. Marsden wants to discuss this and Diaz preempts the chance he might decide not to push the button by… pushing the button.
The rest of the footage showcased the consequences of that button-push… strangers begin following them, watching them everywhere. And then the crazy sci-fi shit starts… Marsden floating in a levitating pool of water over Diaz in a bed, hanging there until it all materializes and he (and the ton of water) falls on top of her, etc.
The panel itself was lively, especially when Diaz dropped the big twist of the movie like it wasn’t no thang. I’m sure Kelly loved her just throwing that particular plot point out there… and no, I won’t ruin it. I’m sure there are people out there who have, but I won’t be the one.
Kelly gave away a real “box” with button to one of the people in the audience, via a sticker underneath one of the chairs. It was a young woman who won and yes, she pressed the button. Did she not just watch that footage? Bad things happen when the button is pressed, but at least I didn’t drop dead on the spot.
I must admit to not knowing much of anything about Jonah Hex, which is a bit surprising since this series combines some of my favorite genres… a supernatural western with a tough ass anti-hero lead? Yeah, I need to start picking up some graphic novels. Hell, I love THE DARK TOWER and tonally that feels in the same universe as what I’ve seen from Hex.
Josh Brolin, Megan Fox, Jimmy Hayward and Michael Fassbender took the stage to show us the trailer and I gotta say… it looks pretty good. If nothing else, I witnessed Josh Brolin violently puking a raven, which is a guaranteed ticket from me.
But the whole thing looked good. Not mind-blowing, mind you, but solid and Brolin’s make-up is pretty rad. Some of the snuck pics of his make-up didn’t really show off just how close his scarred face looks like the Hex on the comic covers. They definitely didn’t tone it down. There are scenes of Hex talking and the one strip of skin connecting his lower and upper lip on that side of his face just stretches and relaxes over and over again. Pretty sweet.
The trailer on the whole was selling the mystery of Jonah as a character, opening with people talking to an unseen Hex… stuff like “I hear you’re special… magic even,” and “They say you’ve killed over a thousand men,” etc.
As a noob to Hex’s world I was quite surprised at the amount of punishment the dude can take. We see him shot many times in this footage, not just arm grazing, but center-chest/flying backwards shot and he stands right back up again.
John Malkovich has a total Custer look going on and spouts of scenery chewing lines like “This man doesn’t know how to die!”
We also get shots of various mayhem (I could have sworn I saw zombies and an eye-ball in the back of someone’s mouth) and a semi-steampunkish horse-mounted double gatling gun tearing up a saloon before the final round of fisticuffs where someone (might be Fassbender) has Hex pinned down and asks, “What’s it like to walk through life with a face like that?” Brolin struggles for a bit then says, “Lemme show ya’,” and bashes him with what looked to be hot branding iron.
Not bad stuff. Can’t wait to see more from the flick.
The panel itself was really funny with Brolin taking the piss out of everybody who came up to the mic to tell Megan Fox how hot she was (which was everybody), telling the guys that whoa, whoa… he’s married. Calm down!
WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE
They very bravely sent out little Max Records out in front of 6500 rabid fans to introduce a few scenes from WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE. The kid was nervous, but a trooper, asking us to forgive him at the beginning of his chat… he’d never been up in front of so many people before and might have to steal a few looks at his hand where he had written all his bullet-points.
Records told a story about how Spike Jonze would always force real reactions out of him using various tricks, including exploding a large fireball in order to make him jump and look realistically shocked and afraid. Hooray for terrifying children. That is why Spike is the man.
The footage they showed were extensions of two of the trailer scenes, the Gandolfini’s Wild Thing (Carol) carrying the sleeping Max (the “I didn’t want to wake you, but you should see this…” scene) and the segment of all the Wild Things throwing each other into a big pile.
The first scene has Carol telling Max that he’s the King and everything he sees is his territory… except for that rock over there… and that hole in that tree isn’t his, but the tree is… etc.
Describing it here doesn’t make it sound all that impressive, but the effects work and overall tone was amazing, hitting me dead center. As a child I read Maurice Sendak’s book, of course, but it’s not like I was obsessed with it, so I was a little surprised at just how much this footage affected me.
It kinda made me feel like a kid again, which I know is corny as shit to say, but it’s true. And I wasn’t alone. At least a quarter of the crowd howled along with Max and Carol at the end of the scene, releasing their inner Wild Thing.
There was some other trippy footage, like Carol and Max walking through a vast desert and a forced perspective giant sheep dog just walking along a ridge behind them, shot at a much slower speed to make it seems bigger and lumbering I guess, but it just kinda tripped me out… In a good way.
I have to say alongside IRON MAN 2 this footage was my favorite of the Con, but this is coming from someone who had to choose between seeing a few scenes of KICK-ASS or the entirety of DISTRICT 9 and thusly missed the KICK-ASS footage, which I’m told stole the Con.
Alongside the BOOK OF ELI panel, this was the funniest of the Warners presentation. They usually clear the stage between films and have a moderator introduce the next group. Not here.
The JONAH HEX guys were no sooner off the stage when Robert Downey Jr. came strolling up, causing a rolling wave effect of people jumping up and snapping pictures and screaming.
Downey is just the man. During the Q&As he fielded some really stupid questions, but turned them completely around. My favorite being when someone asked him if he studied martial arts or something asinine like that and he just sat there for a good 10 seconds in complete silence. Then he said, “I’m not trying to start a riot right now, but I could windmill through the lot of you,” addressing the at capacity Hall H, I might add.
He was also asked about being nervous to step into the shoes of such a well known literary character and he replied saying he has an illness of confidence and that was never a problem.
He wasn’t alone on the panel. He was joined by his wife and producer Susan Downey, Joel Silver, co-writer/producer Lionel Wigram and the lovely Rachel McAdams.
McAdams’ character, Irene Adler, is expanded from the original books, her character only appearing in one story and that one for only 10 pages (which she combed multiple times, she made sure to add), but they say she serves as a perfect foil for Holmes. The footage seemed to portray her as a bit of Marion Ravenwood type.
There wasn’t much they brought, but my favorite stuff was the expanded pit-fight that pissed so many people off in the first trailer. They are going to be eating their words, standing all tall and mighty and expert, believe you me… because that scene is pure Holmes.
What happens is Holmes is bare-knuckle fighting (as is canon) and turns to leave, getting a loogie to the back of the head for his trouble.
Here we get narration as his thought process works out in stages. We see the slow-motion progression of his thoughts… first blind the pissed off giant with a distraction, throw a handkerchief into his face and move in with a precise punch at the right angle that fractures his ribs, follow that up with a befuddlement blow to the head to stun him before kicking him squarely in the chest, sending him down for the count.
All in slow-motion like you see in the trailer. But then we snap back to Holmes in the second he turns after being spit on and the whole fight plays in real time, over in seconds.
The slow motion was his thought process.
The Comic-Con sizzle reel also showed us glimpses of Mark Strong’s Lord Blackwood being hung and surviving. On the panel they described him as an Aleister Crowely-inspired villain, the idea to merge the Victorian era with a bit of supernatural by including a reality based emphasis on the people of that era’s obsession with the occult.
Sounds good to me. I’m in.
Yeeks. So, finally got this report filed and done. Sorry it wasn’t done over the weekend, but I literally left San Diego onto an international trip that I’m not allowed to talk about yet and have been piecing this together with my notes and sporadic, geek-fizzled memory during that trip.
Hope you guys enjoyed it.
This wraps up my panel coverage of Comic-Con 2009, but I have a good 15-20 interviews from the con to hit you with, starting tonight or tomorrow, including chats with all the Sherlock people (including Downey, McAdams and the producers) and most of the Book of Eli peoples. And a little known filmmaker named Jimmy Cameron, if I remember right…
Keep ‘em peeled!
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July 31, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST
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July 31, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST
This is like placing first in a solo foot race.
July 31, 2009, 12:32 a.m. CST
July 31, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST
I just can't tell what this will be like, which more than likely means I'll see it. And where the fuck was Jonze for WTWTA panel? That shit is weak.
July 31, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST
The fucks who are remaking this shit grew up music videos by the band, Live and going to Cabo in college with their buds. Fuck you fatherfucking dipshits! Please AICN don't post this shit anymore, it's appalling, until a HORROR flick comes out worth talking about, please don't post this stuff. I'm serious, I'm being legit here. It's offensive to us as viewers. Collectively we could all shit together in a paper sack and the horror in that would be much more appealing than a this trite! TRON LEGACY is the MOVIE OF 2010!!! Long live jomby!
July 31, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST
You can take away my man card for saying that but her bad acting far outweighs her hotness for me.
July 31, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST
Of the events from WB. Thanks! I'm not sure what's up with HEX though. I've read the books and I'm not sure where the steampunk thing fits in, but, hell, I'm eating it up!! And I'm totally looking forward to WTWTA.
July 31, 2009, 12:56 a.m. CST
Spike Jonze scaring the living shit out of a kid with explosive fireballs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 31, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST
Platinum Dunes has conned me out of my money one too many times.
July 31, 2009, 1:02 a.m. CST
I seen better coverage on Youtube! AICN really dropped the ball this year!
July 31, 2009, 1:03 a.m. CST
I really hope Jonah Hex is good, but I fear it won't be any better than Constantine. Megan Fox looks like she should be in porn, and I don't say that about all hot actresses.
July 31, 2009, 1:08 a.m. CST
I updated many stories from the floor, being the first on the net on Avatar and Gary Oldman's Batman slip. Slide me a break on the one panel I took my time on, will ya'?
July 31, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST
or Star Trek? <P> I hear Orci farted and smelled his finger then decided to put in the next movie. Said the sequel is going a different route.
July 31, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST
of all the panels on some website somewhere. If they need revenue, charge people like 2 or 3 bucks to watch them. I'm sure you'd have takers.
July 31, 2009, 1:46 a.m. CST
Did they not present ANYTHING at Comic-Con? No new poster? No freaking TEASER? Isn't this supposed to come out in November? That really worries me. <p> The more I think about it, the more I think this Comic-Con sucked. Not very many good reveals. We could have been shown concept art for Thor or Captain America or Spider-Man 4 or Wolf Man or yadda yadda yadda. And we got nothing. <p> Yeah, I'm leaning towards this year's Comic-Con being very, very lame.
July 31, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST
best post I've read on comic con this year. I am eagerly awaiting Holmes since the 2nd trailer..
July 31, 2009, 1:52 a.m. CST
by Mullah Omar
The photo doesn't lie - Brolin has a huge skull.
July 31, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST
I don't think he was necessarily singling you out for bad coverage, but laying out his opinion, shared by a lot of people here, that AICN (And other website's too) coverage of Comic-Con was terrible this year. <p> Compared to past years, this year's coverage just felt so so weak. Harry did a ONE day story (making it look like he'd update each night, but didn't) and then crammed everything else into one story a few days later. You had the GREAT Avatar story, but that was it. I can't blame you for taking your time with this one, but everything just felt off this year. <p> AICN disappointed me with the SDCC coverage. And the SDCC really disappointed me with the lack of good scoops and teasers and reveals. All in all, 2009 was a lame year for SDCC, just like a lame year for movies.
July 31, 2009, 1:56 a.m. CST
They had a presentation last year, strangely enough. I think Universal's scared of the movie or else they would have shown something again. Add on that they pushed back the release to Feb. 2010 like two days after Comic-Con ended... I think that adds up to lame duck. I hope I'm wrong... Wolf Man and Creature are my two favorite Universal monsters (with Frank's monster damn near there for a three-way tie). Time will tell.
July 31, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST
Point taken. All I can say is I got 4 hours sleep a night and didn't do one party. The Con seemed heavy on the interviews this year, which were extremely time consuming for me. They're all 1:1s, though, and you'll start seeing them hitting very soon.<BR><BR>Honestly, I don't think there's much that wasn't covered. The big Disney panel went up right away, Iron Man was up within an hour of the panel ending (not bad considering I had to run right off of that to do a series of interviews, writing in-between chats and posting just as my battery died), the big news from this panel (Gary Oldman's slip) went up instantly and the Avatar story was the big priority.<BR><BR>I agree the coverage wasn't as comprehensive as it had been in previous years, but I think a lot of that reflects the Con. It was very Thursday heavy with little of interest movie-wise after (outside of this panel, which was just too massive to spit out instantly, and Iron Man, which I made sure to run ASAP).<BR><BR>Hopefully some of the great !:1s we were able to grab will put us in a little better light with you.
July 31, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST
I thought I'd heard a rumor that they pushed back the movie because they wanted to have the Wolf Man run on four legs now instead of being bipedal... have you heard anything like that?
July 31, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST
by Willyer Hero
That's how you should take criticism, you whiny bitches.
July 31, 2009, 2:24 a.m. CST
Yeah, you are right. You guys got the good stuff out the gate as it happened, and the Con's schedule didn't help, as the Con wasn't very well balanced, with all the good stuff shown up front in the weekend (kinda like Hollywood blowing their wad and distributing every big movie in May this year, leaving August looking very barren). <p> And the interviews have been good; I've been happy with them. I think overall, I've just been disappointed by the Con this year and the panels, and it has a trickle down effect into the coverage. There wasn't a lot that got me real excited this year, unlike year's past.
July 31, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST
I am just getting so PASSIONATELY worked up about this remake crap....I know I could do better and that's what bothers me....Till next time!
July 31, 2009, 2:35 a.m. CST
I don't know about that four-legged wolf man thing being THE reason for being pushed into the dumping ground of Jan/Feb... I do know they extensively reshot the movie (and a lot of that was to re-do Baker's work with CGI, I'm told, which doesn't make me happy)... all are horrible signs. But I liked the script. I don't hate Joe Johnston... I love Benicio in the role. It's just the signs aren't pointing to a movie the studio is confident in.<BR><BR>Look, I'm not going to put it all on the Con. There's always room for improvement and I was a little frustrated this year, too, and wanted to have more output. I can just say I did my best and I know Capone and Beaks were busting their asses, too. No rest for the wicked and all that. On this panel I made a decision as I was packing to fly out of San Diego to not just rush it out barebones and choose (hopefully) quality over immediacy. I was hoping to get it done while on my international adventure, but that ended up being just as time-consuming as San Diego was. If you disagree, that's cool. I'm glad you've enjoyed what has come out so far and I think you'll really dig some of my chats (including the half-hour I got with Terry Gilliam). I know Capone still has a ton of interviews hitting, so we'll keep the fire chugging along as best we can.
July 31, 2009, 2:38 a.m. CST
Its all good, say no more my good man. That makes up for everything. Quality over immediacy is always welcome.<p> And again, you stay classy Quint. Best guy on the site.
July 31, 2009, 2:41 a.m. CST
Damn it! If I had known I would of tried to actually go and meet her in person. Forget Megan Fox and all these other hoes, they've got nothing on Mcadams.
July 31, 2009, 3:01 a.m. CST
Shit Roy Scheider is dead though. So we can't send him.
July 31, 2009, 3:13 a.m. CST
why am I looking forward to the Wolfman remake but dreading the new Nightmare on Elm Street? Is it because I think its too soon, or the fact that Platinum Dunes = crap?
July 31, 2009, 3:31 a.m. CST
I wasn't talking about you personally, just AICN as a whole. But I understand you had things to do. No harm, no foul!
July 31, 2009, 3:31 a.m. CST
As a long term Freddy fan (I remember seeing the original and remember it scaring the fucking shit out of me for a week and a half, too), I'm approaching the Nightmare reboot with a lot of interest. Weird thing about it? I keep looking at Rooney Mara and think back to Heather Langenkamp...and THAT, more than any new Freddy or Platinum Dunes business, scares me about the remake the most. Bizarre? Maybe. Maybe not. Nancy's even more critical to the original Nightmare On Elm Street than Freddy is. It's almost like the franchise built up around Freddy AFTER the first movie, all the while the story is really about Nancy. Wes Cravens script is 10% of that; Heather Langenkamp's portrayal of the character is the other 90%. Johnny Depp, John Saxon, Robert Englund, Ronee Blakley...all that talent and the movie BELONGS to Heather Langenkamp. Tagging another character Nancy is the BIGGEST risk this movie is taking, because if Rooney doesn't equal (or one-up) Heather's performance, it isn't going to matter whether the rest of the movie kills or not - it's going to fail on all levels. Let's hope Rooney brought her A game to this, because to walk the mile in Heather's shoes, she's going to need it.
July 31, 2009, 4:03 a.m. CST
There was a brief time in the 90's when Jonah Hex was a Vertigo title. The writer wrote a supernatural/sci-fi bent to the book with gritty realism of a spaghetti western.<p> This was for only three mini-series. Only one was put in trade. The other got DC sued and will never see print again and the Third never made it to trade. The rest of the time, he's just a tough hombre who kills a lot of men.
July 31, 2009, 4:25 a.m. CST
"I spent close to two grand; couldn't get all the shopping I wanted done because fans were harrassing me. Saw half a movie."<P>The rest of the guys had fairly quality input. Looking forward to the interviews.
July 31, 2009, 4:33 a.m. CST
This is a rumor that I heard months ago, when the movie was still about to hit last April or so. I'm NOT saying that we can be 100% sure on how many legs he will walk. I'm not an insider on the movie. All I'm saying is that the rumors about the four legged Wolf Man are out there MUCH longer than since the latest release date change and I got no idea how true they are. <br> Maybe it means that Wolf Man was walking on all four legs before and they are NOW changing it to the classic two legged look. Have you ever considered this? ;)
July 31, 2009, 5:18 a.m. CST
Book of Eli: Seems very interesting. Jonah Hex: Sounds like I would dig it. DESPITE Megan Fox, who is terrible. The rest: I don't care. Who needs a Nightmare remake? <sigh>
July 31, 2009, 5:24 a.m. CST
If you did you would realize they recycled the first film pretty much beat for beat. The biggest change- Tina's character is played out like the main character until her death- Like Marion in Psycho or Casey in Scream. <P> Then we switch over to Nancy who was a very much a non character before this event. Crabs uses a Gas can huh... I read a woman tossed in a makeshift Molotov into this chemical refinery plant- This bitch just happened to be chasing the K-man while drinking. And this attack is one of Quintens nightmare sequences. <P> That's how it was written in the screenplay and it played and read real dumb. The Tina like bitch is the one who see's Krugers face behind the box. She's spying in her own damn garage based attic trying to find evidence of her childhood. Such a stupid scene. No one in this film remembers being kids. and if Freddy fingered and fucked them why didn't the parent take them to the doctors or call the cops. Such bullshit the whole way through. <P> The Marcus over the Internet Nightmare treasure map quest takes the fucking cake though.... and you know Bayers first started spitting the whole the screenplay that leaked was not real or some shit like that. Whatever man... Now he backtreads and says it was an early draft- pfffffhhhhhh. <P> It was real and it sucked. and they improvised shit on the fly to clean it up some but it's still going to suck as a whole this film is shit. <P> I'm a fan as well and I think Jackie would be a lot more interesting if this film scritp had the brains and the balls to tell it's own story. <P> Want to say it's too hard.... Well here goes. <P> The main character is the new girl in town. Let call her Leia. She just happened to move into "The House". she makes quick friends with one of the cool kids. She's invited to a party that weekend. She gets drunk at a party. <P> She wakes up on her porch. She thinks "Oh they must of dropped me off and left me here.." Leia goes to the front door she pulls her keys out of her purse. This is when she notices the broken glass area on the the front door. she grabs the phone she quickly dials 911. The door creeps open. She looks into the unlit dark house. The phone clicks over. She hears her parents screaming on the other end. Leia freaks, she yells for her family as she races up the stairs. She grabs her parents doorknob it's locked. She slams slams into the door until it burst open, a bloody trail leads from the top of the bed into the bathroom. inside the unlit bathroom the flare of a dancing fire bounces off the walls. Leia still screaming races into the bathroom. There wrapped in burning bedspreed are the sliced up and burning corpses of her her parents in the tub.. Leia falls to the ground nearly passing out from the shock. Suddely her brother screams for her. It's coming from downstairs. Leia she races down the stairs. The screams are coming from the basement. <P> Leia races down those stairs, her face a mad terror. She sees her brother struggling with some unseen figure behind an iron makeshift door in the basement wall. She runs to him, she tries to pull her brother away from the shadowed man pulling him in. Freddy's razor glove comes flying into frame slashing into her arm it's flame engulfed knives dig into her flesh, breaking the bond between her and her brother. <P> She lets out a blood curdling scream. She springs up on the couch. She's still at the party, blood is racing down her arm covering the cushions of the couch. All eyes are on her now. Leia starts screaming. He killed them, he's still in the house, he took my brother behind the wall in the basement we have to go save him. All the partygoers think she's high or something and that she slashed her own arm. One of them finally stanbds up and tells them that the party is over and it's time to call 911 and get her some help. <P> Cut to the hospital- Leia is sedated and stitched up. One of the parents of the other kids who went to the hospital with her is the sherriff- yeah sorta like the original but that's as far as well will go. <P> He says this Leia's parents were found sliced and chard in the master bathroom, The son/brother is missing. The girl- lets call her Jamie for now. Jamie tries to convince her father that Leia was at the party since school let out. Jamie's dad mentions that there was some blood on the broken glass on the main door and some bloody fingerprints on the parents door that doesn't match Leia's but they might belong to her parents. If that's the case they'll never know cause they're corpses are to destroyed from the fire to pull prints. He tells Jamie that they are sent a copy of the prints to the city crime investigation division. <P> Cut back to Leia. Something goes wrong. She dreams of her brother being chased through out the hospital. She tries to save him. Freddy shows up and he kills her. Freddy stabs her in the chest and throws her out a window. She lands on the Jamie's dad's car as he's driving her back home. <P> Jamie becomes the main character now. The fingerprints turn out to be Kruger's. The name brings his history back into play, and the media swarms the town. After being accused of killing a kid and being acquitted thanks to the evidence being impossible to prove as Freddys property. So the deal is this the town and the media thinks Freddy disappeared from town ages back shortly after this shit went down. <P> Now we get the backstory info via media recap, only slowly we learn the real truth the Freddy didn't run away. That he was taken care of. I'll have to find that other post... <P> Freddy was hunted down by a group of teens who wanted revenge on him for the rape and murder of his little brother. I already posted that here a while back in one of the night mare remake threads. <P> The missing boy shows up in peoples dreams before Freddy does. The cemented over hole in the wall is found at the house. The corpse of a long time missing kid is is inside along with a glove. <P> Jamie believes finding the boy will bring them to whatever is allowing the K-man to enter every ones dreams. Kids in elm street start dropping like flies, <P> I typed this up without much time to think about it. It's all my own ideas on how someone could have told a new story that borrowed next to nothing from the original. Sadly the remake we are all getting is a crib note version of the original with lots of scene replay. It was a crappy read as well. Let me find that other post about the backstory. When I say I think they are fucking Freddy over thoughtlessly with a weak replaying of the original story. I really believe it.
July 31, 2009, 5:52 a.m. CST
Nancy Thompson's 11 year son Jake disappears one morning after returning home from a baseball game on his bike. A few weeks later Krueger hits a Deer with his truck, it flips over. The EMT's and Police arrive. They find a black bag near the truck. Inside the bag they find a matching description of the clothing Jake was last seen wearing, some naked Polaroid's of Jake with several slash marks littered all over his body, and a makeshift razor knife glove. Krueger is arrested while he's in the hospital with broken leg, broken nose, dislocated shoulder, and a broken collarbone. His house is searched, and he is interrogated. <P> He gives up no confession. It goes to trial, but the case is tossed out of court because no circumstantial evidence such as DNA, or finger prints are found on the items or the bag, and there's no way to prove that the bag was in Krueger's truck. <P> Krueger walks. <P Nancy won't let matters rest. She leave fliers of her Son listed as a missing person at Krueger work site (He works at a Cotton Mill) with Krueger listed as the only suspect, and a 10 grand bounty/reward for his death or her son's return. <P> Latter that day, Nancy is arrested at local shopping center- Under charges of harassment. <P> Krueger's Lawyer files for a restraining order again Nancy. Later that night while in detainment. Nancy's mother Ann calls 911. The 911 operator is located in the police station (it's a small town). <P>Nancy hears whats going on from her holding cell. Her mother says someones broken into the house. Her mother screams. The line goes dead. Nancy and the Police, race out to Nancy's house. Her mother is found dead in the kitchen with the phone chord wrapped around her neck. She's completely naked. Several slash marks litter her body. A copy of the Bounty Flier Nancy posted at Krueger's work, rest on Ann's Exposed and and slashed up chest. Nancy races upstairs to her daughter room. Kera is missing. Claw like slash marks are cut into the sheets in her daughters crib. Nancy has a panic attack. She grabs her chest she's having trouble breathing, she passes out and hits the ground. She's rushed to the towns local hospital. <P> The following morning a group of kids find her son's body in a small opening between two large 20 foot Boulder's in a Rock Quarry surrounded by the towns local river- They were out there swimming. Jake's lifeless body is covered in slash marks. It's pattern style matches the ones found on Ann's body and in Kera's crib. <P> Krueger is found at the towns local bar. He is re-arrested. The Sheriff cant contain his anger this time. He brutally attacks Krueger. Krueger's lawyer shows up while this is happening. He pushes for harassment and assault charges on the police. He tells them that they can't hold or press charges on Krueger without conclusive evidence. The judge is called, and Krueger is released. Krueger looks at the Sheriff as he walks out. A large grin forms on Kruegers face. <P> The news circulates throughout the town. Nancy steps out of the hospital for a cigarette break, We see a scene earlier were the Sheriff tells the hospital staff to keep Nancy in the dark about her son. <P> While she's out there smoking. Nancy reads the headline "Jake Thompson Murder Suspect Files Assault Charges on Springwood County Police" off of a newspaper someone else is reading on bench next to the smoking area. <P> Nancy freaks out. She runs across the parking lot. The nurse who was with her chases her through the parking lot. She races out of the parking lot into the main street, right into an oncoming car. Her face is slammed into the pavement, blood starts to pool from under her head. She looks up at the nurse. Her eye roll back. We see them operating on her in the E.R. <P> Nancy lapses into a coma. <P> This was the last straw on the camels back. Some people in the town including the Sheriff decide it's time to carry through with some Vigilante Justice.<P> Ext Cottonmill: Night <P> A group of people wearing ski masks start to walk up towards Kruger when he heads out to his car in the parking lot at work. Krueger turns around and races back to the entrance door of the cotton mill. Inside the building. Kruger grabs the door handle. The owner grabs the door from inside the building- the owner locks it. <P> He smiles at Kruger through the window. <P> Krueger races back into the parking lot for his car. The masked people catch Krueger. They beat him with chains and bats. <P> One of the masked men breaks both of Kruegers knees in. <P> Krueger hollers out for help. The attackers mock his please by repeating them. A piece of 2x4 slams into Krugers ribs. A bat hits him in the arm. Another masked man slams a hammer into Kruegers mouth breaking most of his teeth. <P> Masked man: "Enough fun, someone knock this fucker out." Just then an aluminum bat slams into the side of Krueger's face. Fred hits the ground twitching. The masked men handcuff him, they toss his body into the trunk of an unmarked car.<P> They drive to the towns local Junkyard. The trunk is opened. One of the mask men breaks a stick of smelling slats under Krueger's bloody nose. It's not working. The masked man shoves it up Krueger's nostril.<P> One of the men pulls off his mask. It's the Sheriff <P> Sheriff: "Rise and shine! You sick fucking piece of shit..."<P> Sheriff: "Were running late for a funeral."<P> <P> Krueger: Pleaseeeee don't kill me...<P> Sheriff: "Where's Kera! Where's Nancy's daughter, you nasty fuck!!!"<P> They pull Krueger from the car. There's a giant hole in the ground right next to an Excavator.<P> <P> Krueger: "You can't just bury me alive!!!!" <P> Sheriff: "Your right. We gotta Burn you first... Just in case hell isn't real." <P> One of the men dumps a tank of gasoline over Krueger's head. <P> Krueger: "OK, OK! OK!!!! Stop!!!!! I'll tell you were the little girl is. I tell you where she is, please stop!!!!" <P> The Sheriff pulls a cigar out of his shirt pocket. He puts it in his mouth. He pulls zippo out of his pants pocket. The sheriff lights his smoke.<P> Sheriff: "I'm nothing but ears" <P> Krueger "I put her in a locker, in the old closed out section of the mill! Locker 219! She's still alive. I didn't hurt her! I swear! I swear...Arrest me, please arrest me! <P> Sheriff: "Too late for that now." <P> The Sheriff drops the lighter on Krueger's head. Kruger catches fire. His screams of agony are unbearable. The Sheriff grabs a shovel. He slams it into Krueger's head knocking him back into the pit. <P> It's starts to rain. Smoke rises from the grave the other men take off their masks off. They look into the grave. <P> Kruger's burnt body is still shaking. We see bubbles forming from his mouth. A mound of dirt falls onto Krueger's face, his breath blows some of it away. <P> We see the Sheriff loading up another mount of dirt onto his shovel. <P> Man: He's still alive..." <P> Sheriff: "Fuck him. He's Gods problem now." <P> More mounds of dirt fall on top of Krueger as the group begins shoveling dirt into the grave. <P> We cut to the cotton mill. The owner is using a blow torch to cut of the pad locked chains off of the door. He turns his flash light on, he heads to the locker area. He shines it on locker number 219. He opens it. There inside is baby Kera. He picks her up, it wakes her. She starts to scream. <P> 17 years later.
July 31, 2009, 5:56 a.m. CST
Nancy won't let matters rest. She leave fliers of her Son listed as a missing person at Krueger work site (He works at a Cotton Mill) with Krueger listed as the only suspect, and a 10 grand bounty/reward for his death or her son's return. <P> Latter that day, Nancy is arrested at local shopping center- Under charges of harassment. <P> Krueger's Lawyer files for a restraining order again Nancy. Later that night while in detainment. Nancy's mother Ann calls 911. The 911 operator is located in the police station (it's a small town). <P>Nancy hears whats going on from her holding cell. Her mother says someones broken into the house. Her mother screams. The line goes dead. Nancy and the Police, race out to Nancy's house. Her mother is found dead in the kitchen with the phone chord wrapped around her neck. She's completely naked. Several slash marks litter her body. A copy of the Bounty Flier Nancy posted at Krueger's work, rest on Ann's Exposed and and slashed up chest. Nancy races upstairs to her daughter room. Kera is missing. Claw like slash marks are cut into the sheets in her daughters crib. Nancy has a panic attack. She grabs her chest she's having trouble breathing, she passes out and hits the ground. She's rushed to the towns local hospital. <P> The following morning a group of kids find her son's body in a small opening between two large 20 foot Boulder's in a Rock Quarry surrounded by the towns local river- They were out there swimming. Jake's lifeless body is covered in slash marks. It's pattern style matches the ones found on Ann's body and in Kera's crib. <P> Krueger is found at the towns local bar. He is re-arrested. The Sheriff cant contain his anger this time. He brutally attacks Krueger. Krueger's lawyer shows up while this is happening. He pushes for harassment and assault charges on the police. He tells them that they can't hold or press charges on Krueger without conclusive evidence. The judge is called, and Krueger is released. Krueger looks at the Sheriff as he walks out. A large grin forms on Kruegers face. <P> The news circulates throughout the town. Nancy steps out of the hospital for a cigarette break, We see a scene earlier were the Sheriff tells the hospital staff to keep Nancy in the dark about her son. <P> While she's out there smoking. Nancy reads the headline "Jake Thompson Murder Suspect Files Assault Charges on Springwood County Police" off of a newspaper someone else is reading on bench next to the smoking area. <P> Nancy freaks out. She runs across the parking lot. The nurse who was with her chases her through the parking lot. She races out of the parking lot into the main street, right into an oncoming car. Her face is slammed into the pavement, blood starts to pool from under her head. She looks up at the nurse. Her eye roll back. We see them operating on her in the E.R. <P> Nancy lapses into a coma. <P> This was the last straw on the camels back. Some people in the town including the Sheriff decide it's time to carry through with some Vigilante Justice.<P> Ext Cottonmill: Night <P> A group of people wearing ski masks start to walk up towards Kruger when he heads out to his car in the parking lot at work. Krueger turns around and races back to the entrance door of the cotton mill. Inside the building. Kruger grabs the door handle. The owner grabs the door from inside the building- the owner locks it. <P> He smiles at Kruger through the window. <P> Krueger races back into the parking lot for his car. The masked people catch Krueger. They beat him with chains and bats. <P> One of the masked men breaks both of Kruegers knees in. <P> Krueger hollers out for help. The attackers mock his please by repeating them. A piece of 2x4 slams into Krugers ribs. A bat hits him in the arm. Another masked man slams a hammer into Kruegers mouth breaking most of his teeth. <P> Masked man: "Enough fun, someone knock this fucker out." Just then an aluminum bat slams into the side of Krueger's face. Fred hits the ground twitching. The masked men handcuff him, they toss his body into the trunk of an unmarked car.<P> They drive to the towns local Junkyard. The trunk is opened. One of the mask men breaks a stick of smelling slats under Krueger's bloody nose. It's not working. The masked man shoves it up Krueger's nostril.<P> One of the men pulls off his mask. It's the Sheriff <P> Sheriff: "Rise and shine! You sick fucking piece of shit..."<P> Sheriff: "Were running late for a funeral."<P> <P> Krueger: Pleaseeeee don't kill me...<P> Sheriff: "Where's Kera! Where's Nancy's daughter, you nasty fuck!!!"<P> They pull Krueger from the car. There's a giant hole in the ground right next to an Excavator.<P> <P> Krueger: "You can't just bury me alive!!!!" <P> Sheriff: "Your right. We gotta Burn you first... Just in case hell isn't real." <P> One of the men dumps a tank of gasoline over Krueger's head. <P> Krueger: "OK, OK! OK!!!! Stop!!!!! I'll tell you were the little girl is. I tell you where she is, please stop!!!!" <P> The Sheriff pulls a cigar out of his shirt pocket. He puts it in his mouth. He pulls zippo out of his pants pocket. The sheriff lights his smoke.<P> Sheriff: "I'm nothing but ears" <P> Krueger "I put her in a locker, in the old closed out section of the mill! Locker 219! She's still alive. I didn't hurt her! I swear! I swear...Arrest me, please arrest me! <P> Sheriff: "Too late for that now." <P> The Sheriff drops the lighter on Krueger's head. Kruger catches fire. His screams of agony are unbearable. The Sheriff grabs a shovel. He slams it into Krueger's head knocking him back into the pit. <P> It's starts to rain. Smoke rises from the grave the other men take off their masks off. They look into the grave. <P> Kruger's burnt body is still shaking. We see bubbles forming from his mouth. A mound of dirt falls onto Krueger's face, his breath blows some of it away. <P> We see the Sheriff loading up another mount of dirt onto his shovel. <P> Man: He's still alive..." <P> Sheriff: "Fuck him. He's Gods problem now." <P> More mounds of dirt fall on top of Krueger as the group begins shoveling dirt into the grave. <P> We cut to the cotton mill. The owner is using a blow torch to cut of the pad locked chains off of the door. He turns his flash light on, he heads to the locker area. He shines it on locker number 219. He opens it. There inside is baby Kera. He picks her up, it wakes her. She starts to scream. <P> 17 years later.
July 31, 2009, 6:01 a.m. CST
July 31, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
I read the script and it's shit. Doesn't matter what they added - when the original movie is still so brilliant, why remake it? Especially with some whiny, disposable stereotypical cliches masquerading as teens. At least the teens in the original were believable.<P> Fuck this remake - even if it's better than all the other PD remakes, that's like saying a kick in the balls is better than a poke in the eye. Why bother at all??
July 31, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST
I've never understood horror, and especially krueger. <P> can you explain?
July 31, 2009, 6:26 a.m. CST
shouldn't all their 'dead victims' come back to life, too? <P> and zombies, if they aren't alive how can they move? the tendons in the leg require oxygen and blood, + brain impulses, if zombies don't have thatthen a dishwasher should start walking around.
July 31, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST
the moon reflects light!
July 31, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST
July 31, 2009, 7:43 a.m. CST
Whoever is playing the new "Tina" will, in my mind at least, never be as hot as Amanda Wyss!
July 31, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST
Did you really just waste that much time posting something literally not one person will read? I hope that was copy/pasted, my man.
July 31, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST
<>Ip actually read it all and think it sounds better than what this remake will be.</p> <p>I really am not a fan of the "I didn't do what you say I did" thing. Are they actually making it so Freddy did not molest the children? If so that is fucking stupud.</p>
July 31, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST
JONAH HEX, WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE are both pretty much GUARANTEED to fail at the box office. The NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET remake will fail, making roughly the same as (less than?) the FRIDAY redux (which I loved, btw, the FRIDAY redux). A few people will go to BOOK OF ELI for Denzel, but ... not really. Warner must be crapping themselves realizing how many big-budget expensive failures they've got coming down the pike. This is going to be a BAD year for them. And they've steampunked JONAH HEX? So they're turned it into WILD WILD WEST? We know how well THAT did. Just make it a damn Western!
July 31, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST
It's because comics fans are more and more irrelevant. They just don't MATTER. This year's Comic Con from what I've heard might as well have been ANYTHINGFICTIONALCON with an emphasis on zombies and horror. Comics are dying, near-dead as a medium. Manga sales have fallen through the floor. Bookstores that used to stock manga shelves are tearing them down en masse. Comic book sections are getting moved to the back of most major retailers, away from the front of the store. Sales are collapsing even more than they ever have in the past. All effort to make money off comics in the digital medium have failed. All. Nobody reads them, nobody cares about them and nobody wants to hear about them. Also, the studios have been working like MAD to make comic book movies ONLY in name, to get "brand recognition" while ignoring virtually every element of the original source material. In short, Comic Con as it exists - being about comics - will soon be transformed into some other more encompassing name, like SUPERAWESOMEUNIVERSESCon or SYFYCON (having nothing to do with science fiction). The era of humanity dreaming - of imagination - is over.
July 31, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST
by The Reluctant Austinite
'Cause a million bucks isn't that much cash these days to somebody like Quint. Heck, Quint's indoor pool cost more than that.
July 31, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST
It's perfectly fine for a black person, Denzel or not, to call another black person (or a person of any race) a nigga. It's not just about the word that's being said. The context - who says it, when, why, is what's important. By acting like what Denzel said is a big deal, you make yourself look like on of those PC nazis, who are constantly afraid of offending anyone, which makes their opinions rather worthless. You are also giving power to the people who use this word deliberately to insult others. So by trying to act PC, you are actually doing more harm than good.
July 31, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST
A few hours ago, a white kid said to another white kid in front of my house: "Shut the fuck up, Ni*****"<br> Still don't know if I should laugh or throatpunch them.
July 31, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST
and Freddy Krueger is wrongly killed in the new version!? WOW great twist, thanks for cluing me up to the maximum suckage early on.
July 31, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST
<p>Seriously, what's the point? NOBODY CARES! Every time I read a review or anything from Harry, I skip the first 3 paragraphs then check "Nope, still bullshit", then skip 3 more. The RAMPANT name-dropping and personal background, and what the fuck he did the whole day prior, is just ENDLESS.</p> <p>Somewhere down around the end of the article Harry actually mentions whatever it is he was supposedly writing about.</p>
July 31, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST
by T 1000 xp professional
as always. Can't wait to see the interviews. On a side note I am pretty bummed they still haven't shown annythhinng about Thor and Cap.. Oh well
July 31, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST
career continue to rise, remake or not.
July 31, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST
July 31, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
July 31, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST
Warner Bros. is the BEST film studio in the business...PERIOD. I doubt very highly that they are crapping themselves. If anything they should be doing lines off of strippers right now while downing shots with Nolan for all the money he made them with Dark Knight. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. As far as I can tell the Warners titles are the ones I'm most interested in seeing with the exception of Disney's Tron Legacy which will probably own you all. Book Of Eli and Wild Things are probably going to be masterpieces.
July 31, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST
As much as I didn't care for Watchmen (Snyder is an incredibly overrated director) I love seeing Hayley get work. And casting him as FK was inspired.
July 31, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST
That was awesome! If that were the actual screenplay, I'd be damn psyched to see this movie! Instead I guess we'll get a boring retread of the original. *sigh*
Aug. 2, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST
There've been a handful of storylines over the years that put Jonah Hex in a supernatural/horror setting, and another handful that put him in a science-fiction setting; but the majority of storylines have been straight westerns of a Clint-Eastwood-ish type (Hex is a lot like a cross between Josey Wales and the Man With No Name, albeit a bit more grim and ornery, and with scarring reminiscent of Two-Face.) The movie's stress on a supernatural/horror/sci-fi setting worries me, as does the casting of Megan "suboptimal acting" Fox.
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