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From the San Diego Comic Con comes this look at DINOSAUR!!!
Hey folks, Harry here. Keep your eyes open on the net for the trailer that these images came from. Turns out that up at the San Diego Comic Con this weekend, Disney unleashed a CD-ROM with a most kick ass trailer for DINOSAUR.
That's right, their big Memorial Day 2000 film that will contain some of the prettiest eye candy we have ever seen on screen.
But will the story follow suit? That's the question on everyone's minds. We know it's possible to deliver the images. To cause a lump in our throat through the pure artistry they have the power to wield. But will we care about these characters?
Now, for me. I have to have a little faith. You see... Eric Leighton was one of the animators and close collaborators of Henry Selick on NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS, JAMES AND THE GIANT PEACH and even SLOW BOB IN THE LOWER DIMENSIONS. Of course my faith does begin to waver a bit concerning Ralph Zondag, who directed WE'RE BACK! A DINOSAUR'S STORY.
It's got a good cast of voices, what with D.B. SWEENEY, JULIANNA MARGULIES, KIEFER SUTHERLAND, JOAN PLOWRIGHT, ALFRE WOODARD and of course the classic cool man himself... JONATHAN HARRIS!!!!
The first test screenings came away with some positive word, but some concern about character development and a feeling like they had just seen the most beautiful film they'd ever seen... but with no real center.
However, this was quite a ways back, and if there is one thing I have learned about covering animation... It is that things change... and they change quickly. The entire opening of TARZAN was changed, some of the relationships between characters were honed down. Heck, the professor's character never dressed up in the gorilla outfit. (A scene that caused the hairs on the back of my neck to stand taut and shiver it was sooo bad.)
So, is this happening with what some are labeling the most expensive film ever made? Who knows. I can tell you that when you see this trailer you are going to come unglued.
The work exhibited in this piece is extraordinary. And I have to say that come Memorial Day, you'll be finding many a geek strapped to their seat watching DINOSAUR, and drooling a lot. I just hope it goes that extra mile... nails the story... and becomes more than just a footnote of effects histroy. I think this movie could truly be special... if they care for it just right.
I don't know what you think of with these images... But to me... I can't help but wonder what Tippett and Verhoeven were going to do.
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Is it just me, or is anybody else feeling a numbing lack of interest in this film? Sure, there's pretty pictures, but you could sit me in front of a screen with about five minutes' animation from this thing and it would probably leave me with the same feeling the final presentation will come next year. Hopefully, they'll slap a remarkable story on here, "Iron Giant"-style, so we don't just see a movie trying to show off its effects (along the lines of, say, "Dragonheart," to name one of many). I find it almost sad to think that this is our Memorial Day 2000 movie. I've come to find that to be the most reliable summer movie weekend, and if this is the only thing out there, it's going to be dreadfully dull.
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You know what, I hope Hollywood starts getting trippy and stuff and well I have noticed this summer there have been alot of "BAKED POTATOES" type of films, trippy visual pot movies! YUMMMM, FROM the start of spring "THE MATRIX" to RUN LOLA RUN...to Willy Wonka and the..oh wait a minute, that wasn't released this summer. Anyways Looks like next year we better start baking them brownies and passing them out to other fellow movie-goers because I can't wait to strap myself to the seat with my EYES wide fucking open and TRIP the screen fantastic with all the visually fucked up shit next years movie line up has to offer...I just hope the movies keep getting scarier and trippier, I really thought The Haunting was going to be a pot movie judging from the trippy trailers but it was Ugggh, a BAD SEED! Oh I am sorry I forgot I am suppose to be talking about DINA-SORES the movie but what the hell, hey kiddies want the ultimate funny ass trippy I cannot believe I am watching this shit pot movie??
SEEK OUT "CHERRY HILL HIGH" and you shall be rewarded big time!
The opening is better than any opening of any movie this year, trust me, it's a cheesy movie made back in the 70's but I have a feeling the directors had a few brownies themselves... -
talking dinosaurs? puh-leeze. I don't care how wonderfully fantastic this movie is... if you're going to spend $500 million or whatever they spent on this movie, you might as well spend it on a GOOOOD movie with a real story. Remeber that one scoop on the mammoth movie or whatever where mammoths take over the planet earth? Imagine THAT, but live action and $500 million. If you got a good script and a cool director I think it would KICK ASS. It would bomb, but still. This one certainly won't make its money back. PLUS now it's going up against MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE 2! Excuse me, but I think Disney has a financial disaster on their hands. Personally, I am really wanting to see what's so amazing about this trailer, because these pictures must not do it justice. The one with the open-mouthed raptor thing is cool, but that's all. At any rate, I'm excited about seeing this, just a little bitter about hollywood... can't wait for TEACHING MRS. TINGLE... a WICKED new film from Kevin Williamson, right?
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...and everyone knows it. Let's hope "Dinosaur" and it's 18 writers and 7 directors can pull a rabbit out of the hat.
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The films looks exceptional, I really hope there is a story and characters.
There isn't much hype with this film so far, that is refreshing.
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sorry, just thought that topic line would spark some controversy. heh heh heh.
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...is all this movie will turn out to be, following the same formula that inhabits most of what disney animation produces. Heaven forbid they actually come up with an original story that has no connection with all the other disney 'toons. As for the hype, well there are other disney products that will be coming out before this one so just wait til those are out of the way. Then we'll have so much hype we'll be sick of it before it opens.
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This is, for me, the most hotly anticipated movie ever. But then I am a dino nut. Jurassic park was great but the dinosaurs were only on screen for a fuew scant minutes. Lost World had more dino minutes but for some reason they hid them in the dark or behind the glare of the sun, I felt a bit cheated.
A movie with no actors, just dinosaurs from start to finish! Yeah baby! This is what I've been waiting for all my life. So what if they talk, so what if there's a lack of plot, this is a spectacle, an event movie. You don't need a story worthy of Shakespear, simply to see such beutiful images is enough. It's like visiting the grand canyon or niagra falls, just take in the visual splendour of it. -
When will cinema evolve past the two-dimensional screen? How much better can the special effects get? If the envelope is going to have to be continually pushed to awe theater-goers, how much longer is it going to be before the flat screen reaches it's limit?
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I don't know, I'm just not impressed with what I see here. This is a stop-motion, instead of computer, right? Looks it. The designs really don't make me go "wow". It just looks kinda dull from this.
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...'cause even the visuals shown here don't look that impressive. I guess I should reserve judgement until I see the full trailer, but these shots sure as hell don't look like the "most incredibly realistic dinosaurs you've ever seen" like everyone is spouting. Bah humbug. I hope Disney takes a bath for all the designed-by-committee, patronising, lowest-common-denominator garbage they've been serving up lately.
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This is the Jurassic Park killer everyone has been talking about? Well, the CG doesn't looking anything near "realistic." Very cartoony in most cases. FF looks better (and to some degree, MAYBE, ILM's Frankenstein). Ugh! Guess there'll never be an advance for CG - that is unless good camera tricks are used.
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...is a much better concept than this "movie". Talking dinos? Bleh. AoR: The Hunt is EXTREMELY cool. You people ought to check it out. Not one word balloon or sound effect to spoil the art, and the storytelling is VERY well achieved. Screw this CGI movie.
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Aug 16, 1999 9:04:12 AM CDT
Plunged them down a thousand feet below/To the Laaannnd of the L
by r_dimitri22
Man, those sleestacks used to scare me. Anyway, talking dinosaurs don't appeal to me much either. To be honest, I would be more interested if a dinosaur movie was made with amazing effects that showed it how it really could have been. No dialogue or silly plotlines - just something with a Discovery Channel or Animal Planet type documentary feel that follows dinosaur life. Don't even stick any narration on it. Just a killer score. Maybe end it with a giant comet that's the deathblow for the thunder lizards. Very Fantasia-esque. Perhaps it would drag a little, but at least it would be a deviation from the standard moralizing and obligatory comic relief that we find in much of these big animation projects.
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All has been said about the look of the film but there has been no mention of who designed the creatures that are exciting everytone. William Stout, one of the great "lizard men" is the artist that designed the dinosaurs in the upcoming movie. Stout has been emulted for years, there is probably not a dinosaur project that hadn't used Stout's "The Dinosaurs" book as reference. Michael Crichton even acknowledged "Jurassic Park," Stout as a major influence for book. No one does dinosaurs better than Stout, as for Ric Delgado's "Age of Reptiles" - do a view comparision of Delgado's dinos drawn a few years ago to Stout's creatures drawn almost 20 years ago - the resemblance is remarkable, if not identical which proves that Stout continues to influence. Stout's dinosaurs have been created into life-like animated creatures at Disney's "Wild Kingdom" (much better than the rubber dinos at Universal Studios)as well as several huge murels at the Houston Natural Museum. He could be the Charles Knight of our generation. Hopefully this movie will give him even greater recognition than he has received in the past. By the way he was at San Diego Comic Con, which he is every year, selling and displaying his great creatures frim the past.
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....Harry says something and you all just parrot everything he says instead of making up your minds. And then there are the few mindless trolls who just spit out the cliched anti-Disney tirade which I've heard thousands upon thousands of times.
The images on here look incredible. We know nothing about the story, so why is everyone so quick to assume it will be bad?? If these exact same images were here, but another production company besides Disney was making it, you all would have been going crazy over it. And if Harry said how cool it was, everyone here would have had glowing things to say about the movie on the talkback. You people are AICN sheep. Just look at the response to The Iron Giant. It was an o.k. movie at best but it certainely wasn't full of heart as people were claiming. If you want to see a movie with heart watch "Rudy". Then watch The Iron Giant right afterwards. I think we've been deprived on heart felt animated movies for so long that we take a mediocre film like the Iron Giant and think it's the greatest thing. If it was a live action film we wouldn't have let it off the hook so easily. There was almost no development of the relationship with the mother and Hogarth. There was almost no development of Hogarth being a loner. Even though clearly he had no friends, he still seemed pretty happy go lucky. And besides Dean's one line of wisdom "Hogarth, why do you care what they think" he really had very little impact on Hogarth. Going back to Rudy, look at Charles Dutton's character's impact on Rudy. Those were some really emotionally charged moments. The Lion King and Aladdin were full of heart, The Iron Giant was not. It was a mediocre film that was inflated by this website. -
Especially your point on how these opinions would change if it weren't for the fact that the images came from Disney. I don't know when or how it started, but Disney has been bashed excessively true to the fact that there has been lots of non-disney animated films released lately, which were to admit, up on level. But how much this anti-disney dwelling will continue or how large it gets, the majority will still know that Disney has and will always put out the most advanced animation even if they stay loyal to the so-called "Disney Formula." Another studio putting out a work with a great story doesn't inferior Disney any less. No, I'm not trying to deludge a studio here, but people just have to stop intolerating what they don't know is entertainment or what is not released yet, in this case Dinosaur. Hating Disney can be very contagious whether impacted by AICN or other web domains, but if you're a part and won't break out, then that's a pity that you're too ignorant.
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If this had come out from any other studio, and I dissed it, people would be making excuses about how they didn't have enough money to make this look good,but these people have no excuse money wise. This looks more like bad claymation with computerized scales slapped on. No money in the world can help bad design work. I mean, do these look like cool dinosaurs to you? Cool cartoon dinosaurs? You say I'm dissing Disney? Go watch that Fantasia sequence, THOSE are cool looking dinos. They may be a little inaccurate, since we know more about dinosaurs now since the 40's, but they're cool, you want to watch 'em
These guys don't make me go "Whoa cool!".
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Aug 16, 1999 5:23:43 PM CDT
MIX YELLER DOG AND DMITRI22 and you ll actually get a good movie
by adnt13!
....yea,...I dunno, those pics didnt look too realistic, very commercial. Yellerdog talked about the "Age of Reptiles" books, those books (Tribal War, The Hunt) KICKED ASS! they have no talking dinosaurs or any of that crap but they still manage to put across GREAT character development and AWESOME stories! No stupid far too fetched make beleive, extremely well written and well sequenced, they should screw whatever writers they have and just contact Ricardo Delgado and use his books to storyboard a new movie! Fuck talking dinosaurs, shit, If they're gonna do that then maybe they should use the Dinobots or something, maybe give the Dinos some armor and missiles or something...Just please, NO TALKING DINOS! NO SINGING DINOS EITHER! PLEASE!
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I just saw that 3-D Imax Dinosaur move about a month ago at the Luxor in Vegas. When it was over, as people were walking out, all I heard was cool 3-d but did they have to make a dinosaur movie? We are sick of all these CGI dinosaur movies. Seems like since JP we have to have like one a year now. Let the "fad" die Hollywood and move on to something else! Hell, everyone at that Imax said that the 3-d cartoon short at the beginning was better then the Dinosaur movie!! WE ARE ALL SICK OF DINOSAURS!!!
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I'm not a fountain of esoteric cinematic historical facts, but the relationship between Dinosaurs and cinema is as old as cinema itself, no? Hell, Dinosaurs have been all the craze since the first fossils were discovered! If this fad hasn't become old after almost one and a half centuries then I'd say it's here to stay.
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I'M NOT SICK OF DINOSAURS!
GIMME MORE, MORE, MORE!
I'm so glad that the most expensive movie ever made is a dinosaur movie, money well spent! Good ol' Disney.
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First, i'll say that i wasn't impressed by the dinosaurs on the pictures. But they were not moving!! I just think that to see them moving around, in those beautiful art backgrounds, it can be gorgeous. It is like when you see the first pictures of an animated. Tarzan looked so bad. It has nothing special. But then comes the trialer and it's a blast! All depends on the camera work, on the fluidity, on the realism of the movements. If the animals are realistic, it will be great. The pictures with the asteroid exploding are great!!!On the other ones, you just see a pic of a non-living animal in the fog on a little screen, with no music. I think when the first trailer hits the theaters, i'll be very impressed. Look at harry, he has seen it and says it is gorgeous. The pics are not, but the trailer is!
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I took care in my previous post NOT to slam Disney for the story, just the images. I also speak only for myself when I say that although I loathe most (not all) of the recent Disney stuff, I don't hate 'em without exception. I adore the old stuff. None of the patronising committee-bred rubbish there. I also love the current conceptual work on their films, and it breaks my heart to see it watered down into the end product. Also, the animators - even though they're brainwashed into the exaggerated takes and floating holds of the Disney 'house style'; have been improving in ability steadily over the last decade. I'm sure not doubting the proficiency of the animation!
Aladdin was a patronising rip-off of Thief and the Cobbler. Imagine my elation on seeing ethnic character designs from Disney that finally broke out of the blonde/blue-eyed/anorexic waif type. Then my horror as they break into an all-American "I gotta be me" number. Where is it written in stone that animated features must be the saviours of the Hollywood/Broadway musical?? It's a bastardised genre, and it makes it hard for me to believe that they've got the guts to do a script that won't be supplemented down the line with a barrage of 'Sing-along Song' videos.
Lion King was excellently paced, (as was B & the Beast) but only a fool would argue that it wasn't a blatant rip on 'Kimba the White Lion'.
Hunchback was so beneath contempt on so many fronts I won't bore you any more except to say - how many more times in the next few years are they going to push the "don't judge a book by it's cover" metaphor down our throats??
I'll reserve judgement on Iron Giant until I see the thing (how novel!), but at least try or fail, they're trying to do something based on the merits of the writing and animation, not easy marketing friendly fallbacks like animal sidekicks and the rest.
How appropriate that Pixar do their own thing from go to whoa, and Disney handles the marketing and merchandise.
Sorry for the pig-headed rant, but the only thing worse than a miopic Disney-hater is someone who defends them with the same blinkered zeal. -
Oh my God, I had completely forgotten about that visual treat until you mentioned it, Harry. I saw it at, I think, the 23rd Tournee of Animation back when I was in school. It tripped me out for so long. Now I have to go track it down, and I suggest everyone else does the same.
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This isn't based on that stupid sitcom, is it?
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THIS MOVIE IS GONNA FRIGGIN ROCK!
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ALL RIGHT, i think that we can cross off musical numbers from the list of "WHY ANIMATION-LOVERS HATE DISNEY". Tarzan had only one popped into it but if you look at the list of up coming disney movies like atlantis, they are scott-free of songs and so is, by the way, DINOSAUR. so stop bitching about singig dinos CAUSE THEIR AINT ANY!!! and if the dinos didnt talk all that the movie would have is its visual splendor. it could hardly create much depth and to show emotions, the dinos eyes would have to be A LOT bigger. there would go the realism. baff
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