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Learn Who’s Writing The ALIEN Prequel Ridley Scott’s Directing!!
I am – Hercules!!
Chubbing up at the thought of Ridley Scott ordering around a bunch of face-huggers one more time? Yeah, me too!
Friday morning's Variety confirms the news Entertainment Weekly broke early last month: original "Alien" helmer Ridley Scott is indeed directing a prequel to "Alien."
More than that, a screenwriter has been hired. Jon Spaihts, a hot Hollywood talent who hasn’t quite gotten anything produced yet, is now penning the script.
Variety explains where Fox dug up the writer:
Spaihts has become a go-to-guy for space thrillers. After Keanu Reeves became attached to his Warner Bros. sci-fi script "Shadow 19," Reeves hired Spaihts to write the space journey epic "Passengers," which is berthed at Morgan Creek. That script got Spaihts the meeting with Fox and Scott Free, and he won the job with an "Alien" reboot take that the studio and Scott loved.
Fox has separately hired him to rewrite "The Darkest Hour," which Timur Bekmambetov to produce with Tom Jacobson. Spaihts is writing "Children of Mars" for Disney and Scott Rudin, and he will follow by rewriting "St. George and the Dragon" for Sony and Red Wagon.
It’s Scott’s first time directing an “Alien” movie since the 1979 thriller that launched the franchise.
Earlier reports suggesting one Carl Erik Rinsch, the commercial director romantically involved with Scott’s daughter, would direct the prequel were apparently premature.
Find all of Variety’s story on the matter here.
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Why is that Good News?
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He hasn't had anything produced yet!
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I knew that Fox was going for that, but I thought he had his son in law or whatever in mind. And what has this guy done that makes him "hot"? Especially if he's had nothing produced... And why is this topic in the Coax section?
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July 31, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST
Only Brian Tyler can deliver a brilliant score for this
by therealkumar
Some might even say he is superior to Jerry Goldsmith.
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And Ridley has signed on? Surely it will depend on the script that hot stuff comes up with... Hope it happens though.
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first you fucking whores.
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I missed the first paragraph somehow. Yay for Ridley coming back to possibly save the franchise.
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Big Lebowski is on tv. Thats right.
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Ridley returning to the "Alien" franchise is the best news I've heard in a long time. I love the original and "Aliens", and have grown to appreciate "Alien 3". "Resurrection" doesn't do anything for me; neither do the "AvP" films. Here's hoping this prequel can make up for the last few blunders.
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Ridley's got, what, 7 more films left in his career? Let's try to be a bit more fuckin' selective here. You too, Spielberg.
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Cause, that was an amazing idea.
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I'll say it right now, prequels fucking suck. I don't care about origins, continue the story for fucks sake.
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Just think of the incredibly imagery Ridley can accomplish with modern day technology.
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Then how is he hot? Don't you need to have something actually produced inorder to be considered "hot".
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Ridley is going to direct? Wow, Fox actually was smart and held out for Ridley to direct. Maybe Fox has a neuron in its collective brain. Nah... This news at least makes the project much more promising. Maybe there is hope.
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July 31, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST
OH BOY A PREQUEL
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
FUCKING SPACE JOCKEYS, SURELY THIS CAN ONLY TURN OUT GREATER THAN FINALLY SEEING THE FUTURE WAR IN TERMINATOR
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July 31, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST
"hasn’t quite gotten anything produced yet"
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Uh, he's a writer. It's not like they need to see his shit in motion on the screen to tell if he's any good or not.
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Ridley is going to direct? Wow, Fox actually was smart and held out for Ridley to direct. Maybe Fox has a neuron in its collective brain. Nah... This news at least makes the project much more promising. Maybe there is hope.
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NOT NOT SUCK, BUT GOOD. FUCKN A.
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Sorry...
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alot of aliens fucking.
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I hope its the canned Fox-james cameron project about humans crashing landing in the Alien planet. Lots of potential for mind-numbingly amazing visuals. Fuck Avatar! Bring Alien prequel!
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This Spaights fellow wrote the script called Passengers that was on the Blacklist of the best screenplays floating around Hollywood. It might not mean anything, but he has already accomplished more than Justin Marks will ever pray to achieve. Spaights could still royally fuck it up still.
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And you see how that turned out.
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If anyone was going to do this, I'd prefer that it's Ridley - but I'd prefer that even HE didn't do this.
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Cool news...but today's Ridley Scott isn't the Ridley Scott that made Alien. <P> Interesting though...
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is clearly resposible for the rash of new sci-fi films announced this week. Nothing for years and then 3 in one week?
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Will Leo Dicaprio star in this?
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semi true, but the way I'm interperting the statement means none of his scripts have been produced and I think that means they weren't sold/bought. So if they haven't made any movies based on his work how/why is he hot?
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Without Giger, would this really be a party?
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Give us the story of the giant fossilized 'space jockey' that the original crew of ALIEN find on the planet with it's chest already exploded dammit! Make the story about HIM and have the ending scene being the crew of the Nostromo discovering him hundreds thousands of years later.
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Sounds like there was a shakeup, not that the journalists incorrectly and prematurely reported a false story.
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Give someone else a writing job, jeez.
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the Alien and Predator franchises get the individual attention they deserve.
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The Alien prequel can now join the list of really good prequels that includes... unmmmm... uhhhhh....okay I'm drawing a blank.
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Please Good Rod Serling's Ghost, let this actually get made, and Jumpin' Jimi Hendrix, let it fulfill every iota of its seemingly staggering potential!
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should be in this
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I will not watch it. I hate that bitch and I blame her for ruining the series...
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Just because dude's scripts haven't made it to the screen yet doesn't mean studios aren't paying him very, very good money for his work, thus making him a "hot" commodity. Good scripts get bogged down and forgotten about in production hell all the time, for a myriad of reasons, least important usually being the quality of the work itself.
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Fucking hollywood hype machine in overdrive again... gimme a fucking break!
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That guy was great. But if these stories are true, please Ridley whatever you do don't cast Orlando Bloom in this. Even if he gets his head bitten off in the first 5 minutes.
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another hole in our heads.
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Prequels rock because they always turn out the way we want them to. The Clone Wars were exactly as everyone imagined they would be. Sequels rule also because they always learn from the mistakes of the first one and are always better than the original. I can't wait!!!
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If so....OMG!!!! Alien is a classic - even better than Cameron's brilliant sequel. Cannot wait if this is true.
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'cos his director's cuts of Alien and Blade Runner were... highly unnecessary, is the nicest way I can think of putting it.
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Director's Cuts largely unnecessary?
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this trend get old very fast. first, it was lucas's prequels, then batman begins, and now every franchise wants a reboot/prequel. screw this! rack your brain for new materials please.
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now he makes Tony Scott movies. Kingdom of Heaven Dir Cut is the only great film he's made this decade (if you close your eyes whenever Orlando Bloom is on-screen). <p> Anybody could have made Hannibal, Matchstick Men, A Good Year, Black Hawk Down, American Gangster and Body of Lies. It's sad to see him reduced to having to make a prequel to Alien, let's just hope he can pull out all the stops and really deliver something astonishing.
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you've got to be kidding right? One of the best things about Alien is that you don't know jack about it. A prequel is a horrible idea. I'd much rather see Ridley move into The Forever War which he's recently aquired the rights to.
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you've got to be kidding right? One of the best things about Alien is that you don't know jack about it. A prequel is a horrible idea. I'd much rather see Ridley move into The Forever War which he's recently aquired the rights to.
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Though I'm kinda burned out on this trend of milking old franchises, and have never ever been excited about a prequel. It'd be more exciing to hear about Scott taking on a new sci-fi project, but I guess it's easier to lull out these kind of projects these days. Oh well.
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lucas went back to starwars, spielberg went back to indy, and now scott is going back alien. meanwhile this hot new film district 9 is made by a no name talent. <p> at this point, i'd take a no name talent hungry for glory then big name director trying to reclaim his former glory.
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in the first movie,its the first time that the humans discover this strange,unknown species.and this is the strongest element that makes this movie so scary,the element of the unknown. <p>so in this prequel what are we going to see? how they were being transported by the big alien ship,how they escaped and how the ship crash landed in the planet,until Nostromo discovered it? <p>give me a break.
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But its RIDLEY FUCKING SCOTT...doing Sci-Fi.<P>I have a huge amount of faith, so I'd rather not see this fail or fall apart before production.
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He still hasn't really made a bad film. Kingdom Of Heaven Directors Cut is stellar. Did he direct that Crowe pic about him having a small house in the country? Thats probably the closest he's come do a dud.
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Scott's pictures today are still good but like I say Tony Scott could have made Body of Lies, American Gangster etc and nobody would be able to tell the difference. <p> Kingdom of Heaven Dir Cut is spectacular though.
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...but I won't let you trash my franchise!!
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There is a real chance that this could be great. Why not add all the elements to create something great rather than something meh?
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scott has done many many duds in the past - legend, black rain, white squall, 1492, GI jane, and yes that crowe pic with his small country house. i'm sure i miss a few more duds as well. and while hannibal, kingdom of heaven, gladiator, and body of lies are not total crap, they're not exactly great films either. his last best films were blackhawk down and matchstick men. and 2 greats out of a dozen or so mediocre stuffs can hardly give me confidence. and i just plain hate old franchise's revisit on general principle.
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When the fuck did that happen? Sweet chocolate Christ that's amazing news!
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than 90% of most hack hollywood directors. I'll take his worst over the best of McG and the like any day of the week.
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New, but so familiar.
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White Squall or 1492. Still, given the extent of his output and his contribution to film, I can't really fault his filmography. There aren't many directors without missteps. My point was reflecting his recent output anyway, so given that he had some suspect film from the mid to late eighties, surely then now he is more on form?<P>Kwisatz: True mate, but I still really enjoyed American Gangster. It may not have been classic material, but it was pretty entertaining.
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July 31, 2009, 4:09 a.m. CST
wait, is this by same FOX which we r all supose to hate?????
by stefan2789
just askin....i really don't know..
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Alien 5, directed by Scott, written and produced by Cameron = One Big Missed Opportunity.<p>This Alien prequel won't get made anyway. Scott'll pop his clogs before it does; I mean hasn't he got about another billion projects on his directorial slate already? He needs to do sci-fi again, but he should The Forever War and Brave New World. If he does this alien prequel, and it tanks - and really, has he got a hope in hell of topping Alien? - then he's going to go out on a low, and what a sorry state of affairs that'll be. Maybe he should do Blade Runner 2 as well, if he's so intent on going back to the well. Wasn't there a mooted sequel at one point called Metropolis or something?<p>OK, another thing - I take it this prequel is going to feature human beings? After all - "SPACE JOCKEY NO SPEAK ENGLISH!" Yes, so there will have to be humans which automatically = FAIL. Unless of course this is going to be some avant-garde movie with giant bio-mechanical elephant things sitting around on a bone-shaped spacecraft, and discussing the weather in incomprehensible alien gobblydegook. To wit:<p>BAH'WAU GRAW-K TYO! (Nice meteor storms on Axis Z26 today!)<p> GZX FCK SCC LO DON...DDFFG?!(The wife'll like that...what's the hell's that noise?) <p>KWEEXX GOO DI GHO! (Some of the egg cargo must be insecurely fastened. Go down to the hold and check it out!) <p>GGHHFHHH! AASS! AGVVVOK DO SI! XXDEEDD!!!!(One of those facehuggers is loose! Aiieee! It's on me! Send out a warning transmission! We're about to crash!!) <p>Nope, can't see a lot of story potential in this, beyond the very silly and crushingly obvious.
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But really, bloody great news - i can't wait.
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its on my new site that i have taken over from STEVE and emi! www.savesuperman.com WACHOWSKIS BROS DEF INVOLVED AND JAMES MCTEAUGE!
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1492 is an amazing film. Quite slow but some of the best imagery Scott has ever put on screen. Try and see it if you can. <p> Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying American Gangster and his other films this decade have been bad, i've found them all entertaining too. But Scott is a world-builder and shouldn't squander his gifts on films anyone can make.
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Why can't we have a sequel for once? Prequels are shit because you either know what's going to happen or you know nothing important can happen because you already know the universe after that point. The aliens can't overrun the earth, they can't be public knowledge, the company probably can't know about them. There's not much meat to hang there without potentially contradicting things. Just make a proper sequel and get Cameron to write it.<br /><br /> To be honest I don't want the space jockey explained, we've had over 20 years of living with that mystery now, any sort of explanation will be a letdown. Leave it alone, create new mysteries perhaps but we don't need to have an explanation for everything!
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is an amazing film, I can't believe most of you don't seem to have seen it. Certainly one of Scott's best.
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...wins the talkback. <p> Look, nobody is a bigger fan of Alien than I am. Normally the news that Scott is returning to this universe would be cause for insta-jizz, but this project feels hobbled before it even gets off the ground. <p> Since it's a prequel, it will be about one of two things: <p> 1) The space jockey. <p> 2) Humans encountering the Aliens before the Nostromo does. <p> In the first case scenario, it will totally rob the original Alien film of one of its most enigmatic, eerie and creepy moments, thus killing the mystery of the derelict ship. <p> In the second case scenario, it will basically be a pointless retelling of the Alien or Aliens story. Furthermore, people will be bitching like mad about how it's "fucking up the canon." <p> I love, LOVE, Ridley Scott and I adore the Alien universe, but why not go with a sequel instead? Ignore 3 and 4, set it in the time of Aliens (or shortly thereafter) and have it be about finding the organism somewhere else in the galaxy and do something new and unexpected regarding the creatures behavior or biology. <p> Scott will either blow us away with this, or he will join Spielberg, Lucas, Carpenter, Craven and Argento on the Porch Of Genre Irrelevance, grumbling about those "damn kids" while rocking themselves into oblivion.
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an up and coming screenwriter and they're giving a young guy a chance. Also glad to see that there are scripts NOT written by Orci and Kurtzman, who seem to have made a pact with the devil or something to own the Hollywood blockbuster writing monopoly. Obviously Spaihts knows what he's doing. As for Scott: I remember him saying that he's not interested in sequels or prequels, I've always admired him for not jumping on the bandwagon and doing original material instead. It saddens me however to see him give up his principles for a "reboot" I have hardly any faith in. Why, Ridley, oh, why? You don't need to do that. Give us another political thriller. (Yes, I liked Body of Lies. It actually felt like a well-observed, well-timed and relevant! film, something we don't get very often out of tinseltown these days.)
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I mean...are they going to have human characters in it? Is it just going to focus on those other aliens beings? I hope we don't go to the aliens home planet or none of that shit. This movie worries me!
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Ridley's gonna DIRECT this thing now? FANTASTIC! I was dreading the fact that FOX were probably going to let any old hack potentially REALLY screw up any prequel to the excellent original anyway. It would only have been a matter of time, so I'm just damned grateful that it's the fabulous visualist that made the original source material so brilliant in the first place that is taking the reigns. While I'd rather see him create a new sci-fi creation altogether, at least we are guaranteed to be in for some more really 'fantastical' imagery from Ridley again, which he excells at, rather than have him do some other non-genre fluff. Sure, I have concerns that whatever storyline that is conjured up will take away from the 'mystery' and 'unanswered questions' feel of the original classic, but at least it's not gonna be done by some guy who was shagging his daughter!! An Scott / Cameron team-up would have been a dream, but I'm personally very happy with this news...and have no doubt I'll prefer it to the abominations of everything 'ALIEN'-related that came after Cameron's terrific sequel.
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anyone who suggests otherwise needs to be beaten severely with a million dead fish..the fact that anyone would suggest such a thing demonstrates a woeful lack of taste and intelligence.
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Nice imagery and all, but 1492: CoP just went on and on without much happening. The story Ridley wanted to tell could have been told in about half the running time. Also, Depardieu did his best but he was miscast.
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To imagine Ridley Scott picking through the sucked-in, chewed-up and spat out remains of this once great series leaves me a more than a little despairing. Prequels are the refuge of hacks with zero creative courage; hollow dot-joining exercises from which no good can ever come. <p>Alien Prequel.<p>Ridley Fucking Scott.<p>*sigh* Shoot me now.
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I thought it was great. Gary Oldman's character was brilliantly twisted in many ways. It was shot gorgeously. It added to the Lecter mythos. The Ray Liotta eating his own brain was a little over the top (or should I say, "off of the top," lol) but I found it appropriately grotesque given the genre and canon. Great flick. I've re-watched it several times.
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...about this "Children of Mars"...hmmm...
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I haven't seen it in a while, but when I saw it for the last time a couple of years ago I remember really enjoying it. I've never really understood the dislike for it. Probably just the fact that it follows Silence of The Lambs.
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Nicely filmed and acted. I found it a bit empty though, didn't really have any story to it. Goes without saying it was about 1000 times better than Red Dragon though.
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Russell's career has petrified quicker than the Jockey himself.
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July 31, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST
I like to see Ridley Scott get the rights to the Alien series
by savagedave
Then lock them in a safe so no one ever fucks with it again. Himself included. No to sequels/prequels and remakes. We have the originals, just be content with those.
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I don't think they have the capability of going anywhere 'fresh' within the Alien universe to make a sweet kickass/scary Alien movie like they should. Time to move on, nothing to see here. The time of Alien(s) has come and gone. All that's left is the continually donkey punching of the franchise.
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Ridley was back at the helm. I'll give this a shot. Alien and Aliens are two of the greatest ....well alien movies of all time. Each were great in different ways. Too bad the Alien vs Predator movie left a bad taste in my mouth. I haven't bothered with requiem.
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its the alien franchise and its fox.
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Why go back to this, it's been done to death?!?!
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July 31, 2009, 7:45 a.m. CST
I'm an artist who hasn't gotten anything produced..HIRE ME!!
by alienindisguise
http://tonytreloar.blogspot.com/ Seems like 2 unknowns get a break in hollywood every year and it's a bunch of bullshit. With what the film industry shits out, we should all be able to get hired in the biz.
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Articles like this remind me of why I rarely ever bother reading their publication. Well, the industry is obnoxious too... what the fuck am I doing reading about it every day?
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..if it's done properly. There are plenty of plot threads in first one that could go places. Why was Ash on board and why was his true identity kept a secret? If the crew were travelling along a pre-determined route maybe other mining ships had set down on LV426 before they got there. Perhaps the company already knew about the derelict. Kane only saw a tiny portion of the alien cargo bay, what if there was something else in there. There's no reason to try and shoe-horn Ripley into the plot (what are they going to do, say she was there previously and then had her memory erased). What about another movie set after the events of Alien? You've got 50 years and Ripley’s daughter on Earth, maybe she started to investigate what happened to her mother, started asking questions about The Company and found out about LV426. Lots of scope for some good films and no need to mention any AvP nonsense.
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It would certainly bring a far better production value back into this ailing franchise. But am I even interested in it at this point? Meh.
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If only I cared about this franchise anymore...
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I was a Ridley freak...as I've said here before BladeRunner is the be all end all for me so I was on board for anything this guy did. <p> After G.I Jane and White Squall I bailed. Kwisatzhaderach is right...anyone could have directed these other films. But consider this...you can't make a sci-fi genre classic everytime out of the gate. It's all in the service of the story and American Gangster or Matchstick Men don't require mind blowing visuals and highly stylized art direction.<p> G.I Jane did introduce me to Viggo (nice performance) but I hate that movie. I will be seeing 1492 though so thanks for the heads up.
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Just leave it alone people....
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<p>It can't be worse than using one of the more known writers. They can't seem to write themselves out of a paper bag these days. That gives me some hope that it won't suck.</p> <p>But this better not put off Forever War. That was one of my favorite sci-fi books and I don't want it ruined by a lesser director. And it should come first. Aliens is/are way overdone. As are remakes and sequels in general.</p>
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It's not about writing. <P> The hardest work done in Hollyweird is to get the deal. <P> The script gets hacked out as an afterthought. <P> Hence, the "quality" of movies.
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But after fighting the aliens she gets bonked on the head and forgets everything.
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how about a prequel to BASIC INSTINCT???
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Since we established that they have close ties and build pyramids together and all that.
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And Geeks Everwhere say... MEH?<br /><br />Scott has no reason to return to this franchise unless he has come up with an interesting take on the prequel idea. He apparently feels that he and the writer have done that. He was originally just going to produce. If he's willing to direct it rather than scuttling it or letting Fox hand it to someone else, that indicates to me that he truly believes it's worth doing. <br /><br />As for the ups and downs of his filmography: How many other directors of his generation have made so many different KINDS of films? He's as prolific and eclectic as Spielberg, and Spielberg's made plenty of klunkers too.<br /><br />Either he'll make a really good movie that will help get his juices going and the money flowing for THE FOREVER WAR, or he'll make a mediocre or bad one and Fox will finally give up on milking this franchise. Either way ALIEN fans have nothing to lose.
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Sounds more like the typical story of someone who's a darling of script meetings among the studio execs. Which is to say he gets paid a boatload to write whatever the studio likes and in the end it's all written off on expense accounts as 'development.'
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Experienced, fan-favorite, produced writer, and yet the movie sucked ass.
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Uwe Boll is looking for his next gig.
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Can it finally be serious again? Ridley Scott attached is great news...
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...I lean towards the belief that the ALIEN franchise is damaged beyond repair. Scott would have to absolutely hit a home run for me to care about that "world" again. Considering his recent slate of luke-warm films and pending projects, I just don't know if he can conjure up that magic one more time.<P>Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it. But for now, I remain skeptical.
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HA! Thanks, TurdontheRun. You made my morning.
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July 31, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST
After DISTRICT 9, AVATAR. and TRON LEGACY, eyesballs ready!
by JDanielP
YES!!!
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Serious sci-fi and superhero movies are all I need. Give me MORE.
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Saw Alien the first day it came out and I still remember it clearly. As opposed to about 99% of the fans out there, I always thought the first half of the movie was way better than the monster movie part. Ridley is an expert at giving a peek at the future and Ill give you an example: in the 1000 space movies made so far, when a spaceship approaches a planet and it going to land, how many other films mention a "roll, yaw" manuever so that it would then be travelling over the surface faceup? None I bet. And the creepiness of them coming upon that derelict spacecraft, and especially the pilot/thing that is part of the chair? Anyway, Im not much a fan of sequels or prequels but you can bet your ass Ill be first in line when it opens.
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Completely agree with regard to the first half of the movie being superior.<P>On a totally unrelated note: I just watched a copy of ICO go for 51 quid on ebay. Madness.
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I've been hearing rumblings for the past couple of years that both Ridley Scott and James Cameron 'wanted' to go back to the Alien-universe and set right the wrongs the films produced after theirs created. There is such a rich universe that both Scott and Cameron created--which both of the most recent films failed to take advantage of--that the challenge along with the potential to wow and engage audiences is certainly there. Who doesn't want to see a great Alien movie again? My bet is Cameron, because if Scott knocks it out of the park I'd like to imagine he wouldn't want to be one upped.
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I'm more nervous than excited about this.
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This guy has gotten a LOT of high profile work in a very short period of time. His scripts must be pretty damn impressive. I'm excited by another Alien film, particularly if Ridley is going to direct it. But that doesn't automatically mean it's going to kick ass. He has said in the past that he wanted to make a movie about the derelict ship, so I assume that's the storyline for this film. I'm not sure that's a great idea frankly. But I will see any Alien film on release day, that's for damn skippy!
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July 31, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST
Aliens vs. Predator can work if not created by hack cunts!!!!!!!
by crackerfarmboy
Have you seen the images from the new Aliens vs. Predator game? Have you seen some of the earlier AvP comics? It's an intriguing story and if done properly and not by total fucking mongoloid, retarded, moronic, taltentless dipshit hacks (like the last two films) it would kick ass! We've got a good Alien film, a good Aliens film, and a good Predator film so why can't this be properly put together?
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passed on it. it involved ripley having wine licked of her nipple by an alien as she becomes it's sex toy. oddly i was told a beloved fictional character being thrown under a bus shouldn't stand in the way of a cash grab..so i was schooled.
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Where the Alien species migrates from civilization to civilization.... the last scene could be how the Derelict ship encounters the Aliens...
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Access navigation records, follow to source of Space Jockey cargo. Carnage ensues. <P> One of you Scott boys cut me a check.
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<p>I wrote about the first third of what was going to be an epic Earthbound alien war film that would take place after Alien: Resurrection.</p> <p>Ripley is sort of a General in it and she has organized a group of paramilitary to invade Area 51. This is where all the evidence of the Aliens are kept, including some eggs. She is there to destroy it all, but you can guess what happens.</p> <p>Anyway, I thought that would be a fun way to go, but I'm definitely psyched for a prequel. SOME DAY there will be a big war with the Aliens on Earth.</p>
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than to go into the theater for this film, and instead of a title screen, a bunch of text came up that said "This film COMPLETELY avoids the events of Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. Just pretend they didn't happen people. We did." Then do what Doc Pazuzu said; have Ripley find the organism on another planet. Perhaps a planet with a different organism than humans, so the aliens look different, or just have a bunch of facehuggers take over a bunch of her crew.
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and biologically a real mystery. Don't, Mr. Spaihts, take the easy way out and make them into bugs. The original Alien was much more horrific: after it infected/impregnated you, you watched yourself turn into an egg. Everyone remember: it was Cameron who made them into animals, not Scott.
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The Ripley clones scene, and the part at the beginning where The Company is forcing people's faces down on facehuggers. I thought that was a cool idea.
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There is no Alien franchise. 2+3+4 were shit. Yes, I include Camerons action soldier hero crap.
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...I wouldn't want Ripley anywhere near this movie. Weaver has often said that the Alien saga is nothing without Ripley, and has mercilessly pimped the franchise to her own ends, making 3 and 4 nothing but showcases for her acting. She cares nothing for the saga in itself and knows dick all about SF or horror. <p> On a side note, I like 3 a lot and think 4 is okay, but that is DESPITE Weaver's influence, not because of it.
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I guess this means Ripley is not in it, which makes this NOT a fucking ALien movie.
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Wow, here come the haters. How long until NoDiggity shows up with her "Newt is Jones" bullshit and is joined by that insufferable cock, DGDB?
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...just in time to demonstrate what a Weaver kool-aid drinker sounds like.
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...but as has been said, IMHO he should move on from ALIEN.<p>Why not do something in sci fi that he hasn't done like the resurging underwater genre? Disney's doing the Capt. Nemo origin story, Irvin Kirshner's doing EMPIRE OF THE DEEP, and Bob Orci is doing ATLANTIS RISING. IMO it'd be cool to see Ridley Scott also do something in that arena.
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I want to call Shenanigans, but Ridley sells me.
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look i have visions of the prequels done by irvin...and it not cool to mention that name...
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Does that mean there will be no humans in it, we will get to see where "Aliens" come from? Will we get to see the giant alien people from the spaceship where the face hugger eggs were found? I guess in the end who cares as lond as Ripley isn't in it.
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Ah, to think what might have been. :-)
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July 31, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST
“Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by
by SadCadillac
Now here's a prequel I can get behind. Scott's *Alien* (1979) is arguably one of the greatest cinematic sci-fi masterpieces of all time. It's great to see some genuine talent return to helm this auteur-laden film franchise. And thank god for no more of those Alien-Predator amalgams. I’d sick a face-hugger on the producer that spawned that idea.
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July 31, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST
Here's the rest of my "subject." Stupid character limit.
by SadCadillac
its hostility… I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.” – Ash, *Alien* (1979)
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They are all foreshadowing, and when done poorly they are shittier than direct sequels. That being said, Ridley doing it is promising even though he hasn't been on fire lately. The plot, story and concept has to be great or else pretty pictures will mean nothing.
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Do I see some people actually bitching about Ridley Scott returning to the Alien franchise? Jesus...while a VERY strong dose of cynicism is healthy, being over-cynical to the extreme is just as bad as being naive. I hate everything, and I'm thrilled about this. Isn't this what we wanted? I know I did. The fact is, NO ONE was able to turn about a decent Alien movie after the first two. Fincher, Jeunet, Anderson, and those shambling, marginally-functional Sarah Palin-fanboys that shat out AVP-R just didn't have a clue. Since the mid-90's, all I've heard about the future of the "Alien" franchise is "I wish Scott or Cameron would come back and save the series from oblivion". Well, like something out of fan's wet dream, Scott has somehow been lured back to direct another "Alien" movie...I repeat, the guy who mad the ORIGINAL masterpiece is making ANOTHER FUCK ALIEN MOVIE. The franchise is being rescued from decades of impoverishment and neglect. We're actually going to get another Alien film which perhaps, just maybe, won't totally suck. We can have these fantastic characters treated with the respect they deserve again. Now, granted, as mentioned above, Spielberg and Lucas returned to Indy and SW years later and destroyed both of those franchises...but Scott isn't Spielberg or Lucas, and quite frankly, he's never had anywhere near the level of talent that they had at their heights...Scott's career has been much more hit-or-miss. So the fact is, he never had a great amount of talent, so there wasn't any to dissipate...his returning to the best film he ever made by far can only bring forth the same vision (or a facsimile thereof) that made Alien what is was. Personally, I couldn't be more thrilled: no more of Fincher's grotesque, sadistic shit inflicted on us, no more of Jeunet and Whedon's crap comic-book humor, none of Anderson's lack of interest or the Bros. Strause retarded 6-year-old fucking about...as opposed to Spielberg or Lucas, think of what Raimi did with "Drag Me to Hell"...return to his roots, and give us something that, while not comparable with the original, was still pretty damn good on its own. I see no reason why Scott can't do the same...between this, "Predators", and the terrific recently rebooted comics from Dark Horse, (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-104/Aliens-1, http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-108/Predator-1, http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22189), this is the best time in years to be an Alien/Predator fan...
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Well said. I would only add that Fincher's Alien 3 had promising moments of cinematic brilliance. And had he not been impeeded by the studio, we might of been privy to three masterpieces, not two and a half.
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I see you're still the arrogant piece of ratshit you've always been.
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Didn't mankind NOT know about the aliens prior to the first movie?
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That's what The Company wanted you to think. Apparently.
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Scott will wipe away the abortions that were Alien III and IV (although 3 was OK-just crapped on the storyline by killing everyone off without the proper send-off). He'll wipe away the plague that was the ALIEN V PREDATOR movies. I hope he squashes that crap like a bug and returns ALIENS to the glory it once was in the Sci Fi/Horror universe.
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And you're still a shallow, witless, uncritical, group-think fuckspoon.
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Avatar, Ridley Scott Alien prequel, Tron Legacy... hardly been any proper sci-fi on our screens recently.
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hard to get excited for this
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How can seeing the creatures or anything they do now be SHOCKING ANYMORE?
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And what are you basign that on? I seem to have the opposite opinion as everyone else on this fucking site. Except for the universal agreement here that you are a douche of course.
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She's in it. She's not in it. Whatever. I would be much more worried about a director and a good script than her prescence. Since this will be a prequel it's a moot point. <p> Generally, you need a familiar character(s) to thread it together. It's not just about big, scary monster little fan boys. You need the hero/heroine to contrast that. With her the viewer has history and familiarity and therefore weight. No backstory needed.<p> Ripley was awesome in ALIENS.<p> A previous poster (I believe DocPaz) said if the prequel covers the derelict ship story it completely strips the power and mystery of that scene. I don't want that scene fucked with thankyou. As it is, I find it hard to watch Star Wars or ESB without flashing back to little anni in a pod race or riding a bucking space cow.
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If he does do this I hope he doesn't plan on making this another huge actioner. Been there, done that. I'd like to see a return to the more suspenseful, claustrophobic film that made his original so fucking good.
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Oh, how about how you fully adhere to the unspoken tenets popular among certain cineasts whereby if a certain take on a certain franchise is more cerebral or non-American, it is by definition a better film (Ang Lee's Hulk and Superman Returns, for example), or how you suck the cocks of filmmakers who have outlived their sell by date years ago, but are still considered geniuses by those very same cineasts (Tarantino, Shyamalan, etc.) <p> Nope, you're not predictable at all.
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July 31, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST
"Only Brian Tyler can deliver a brilliant score for this"
by Toilet_Terror
Why?
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I agree that Ripley's familiarity lent weight to the story, at least in 1 and 2. I'll even say 3, even if her arc could easily have ended in 2. There's a symmetry in the first three films which is appealing, but having Ripley (or her clone) in 4 was unnecessary. The Ripley story was interesting, but let's face it -- it IS possible to create a new character we care about in the span of a two-hour movie. Ridley excels at that, so that's the least of my worries regarding this project.
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First of all. What the fuck is a "cineast" and who the fuck even says it except pretentious douchebags like you?<p> Second of all, how exactly does me liking Ang Lee's Hulk, Superman Returns, and every Shyamalan film make me a "group-thinker" when about 1% population would agree with those opinions? You better mind what your smoking. The very fact that you criticize me for liking films that can be considered non-American or cerebral makes you witless group-think fuck.<p> I won't even dignify your comments about Tarantino with a repsonse since they already expose nicely what a tasteless dumbshit you are.
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I never specified how big your group was compared to any other since it makes no difference. The fact remains that your tastes are beyond predictable as are your odious politics. <p> Also, I never criticized you for liking cerebral or non-American films. I merely pointed out that quality means nothing to you if it comes down to picking a side -- you've already made your mind up which is better. <p> It makes it all the more ironic that you call me a "pretentious douchebag" when your tastes are in the fucking How To Be A Pretentious Douchebag Manual.
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July 31, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST
I'm only interested if the word PREQUEL is just for the beancoun
by ToMonicker
No Ripley. No Newt. Etc. Just do something interesting, nasty and scary. SCENE: Bedroom lit by moonlight through curtained windows. A couple asleep soundly on bed. An alien emerges silently from the shadows, creeps up to the foot of bed. Viewpoint is from the head of the bed. The alien pounces on the wife who awakes screaming. Shift to viewpoint of the man lurching to wakefulness to the last thing he'll ever see; chompy alien tongue striking at his face. Sudden Darkness. Screaming. Gurgling. Silence. ~end dorkness.
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Is that was this is about? Are you just a bitter shit-necked conservative who can't handle the fact that your geriatric and near clinically retarded candidates lost? And are you actually going with "I didn't say how big your group was." as an argument? That's just sad and laughable at the same time. <p> If I'm so predictable why don't you throw down five movies I like and five movies I don't like that we haven't mentioned?
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Did you really just say that Lucas and Spielberg are more talented directors than Ridley Scott? <p> Oh my... <p> Also, I can't believe all the Alien 3 defense taking place. That movie is irredeemable garbage from start to finish. The only thing remotely impressive about it is the fact that it managed to literally destroy what had come before it within the movie's first ten minutes. It's difficult to fuck things up that badly that quickly.
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I'm really tired of watching the first 2. I need another fix.
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Thanks SuperWelling. It's past time for a thrilling asventure of the Man of Steel. Don't fuck it up! And Alien's been done to death. Superman is timeless.
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It's hard to believe that less than two years ago, all we had out of these two franchises was "AVP-Rectum"! Anthrax, I said that at his height, (1975-1998), Spielberg was certainly a superior director to Scott, whose career has been very uneven. "Talent" is probably not the word for Lucas, so I take that back, but he was certainly more "visionary" than Scott, although Ridley was certainly infinitely more competent with actors and dialogue.
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Actually, I'm an Obama man, but you're a buzz-word spouting, Stalin apologist Marxist-Leninist asshole. Let's stick to correct descriptions, shall we? <p> What, saying that your group is smaller than most dumbass, multiplex-populating mouth-breathers is admitting I'm wrong? How so? The fact remains that you're as predictable as they are. <p> As for a movie "throw down" -- are you fucking kidding me? Why should I serve up an opportunity for you to just be contrary? I don't need to prove anything to you or myself. <p> Speaking of predictable, it was hilarious when you got your ass handed to you by talkbackers in the Pacific thread when you called Band of Brothers war porn, thus demonstrating that you had never seen it.
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I don't need to know the origins of the Aliens. The whole point was that they were clouded in mystery. <p> So this is basically Aliens Begins? Blech.
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I fucking love that mini-series. How is it "war porn", and what the fuck does that even mean? It was a great look at the events that transpired in the European theater, and following a specific company's path from training to each of those events. It's hands down my favorite mini-series of all time. <p>Er, now back to your regular scheduled broadcast of a prequel to Alien, which is a horrendous idea.
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What the hell are you guys even talking about? It certainly isn't about Alien(s) or Ridley Scot anymore.
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Dull at best.
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It's the most befitting description of it. Yes, I have seen the entire series, and yes, it has the entertainment value of a West Point military stategy textbook. <p> And I'm not a Stalin apologist. I've retracted that statement over and over again and said it was a mistake. But petty little cunts like you who follow my every movement here don't seem to care.
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You have NEVER retracted that. In fact, each time I've hounded you over you it you have reiterated that Stalin's massacres were "in part" due to "outside capitalist forces". <p> Don't even begin to play that fucking game here.
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Dammit, why'd you have to go and state your opinion all competently and succinctly for?
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by HoboCode Jun 26th, 2009 06:37:25 PM "I'll admit a couple years ago I made some defensive comment saying ONE of the many reasons Stalin threw so many of his countrymen in gulags was because of outside capitalist forces. I've since retracted the statement and feel quite silly about it."
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...it seems like the hounding is beginning to pay off. First it was your retraction of "if anything, I'm a Trokskyist social democrat" and now this. <p> Who knows -- if this continues maybe you'll even drop your roundabout defense of Robert Mugabe and even endorse a two-state solution for Israel/Palestine. <p> Books are your friends.
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So Israel can manufacture intelligence against the new Palestinian state and declare war with the U.N.'s full support? Sounds liek a great plan. I'm for abolishing religous states all-together since they are inherently undemocratic.
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...that you have a long way to go yet. <p> Seriously, where do you get this shit? The Worker?
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July 31, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST
This better be a conspiracy movie tying up all the continuity!
by MrMysteryGuest
I loves me some of that!
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I support a two-state solution. I just don't think it or anyhting else will work until religion is abolished and real democracy can flourish.
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July 31, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST
"What we do in life won't mean dick if we get killed by a fuckin
by MrMysteryGuest
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I thought it was a very well done look at what happened to Easy Co., the shit they went through. I thought it was engrossing with very strong performances, well executed action scenes, and heartwrenching scenes dappled throughout. <p>And I still don't like this idea since, like mentioned already, it takes away from the initial foray into this Alien universe.
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I've made up for it with complete incoherence in other talkbacks. ;)
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I always thought a story about the colonists on LV426 discovery and ultimate demise at the hands of the aliens could make a good movie. Let's face it though, Scott is not going to save the franchise. There could be nothing new or that exciting about another alien movie, it's pretty much run it's course. I don't get the worship of Ridley Scott anyways. Does Alien and Blade Runner alone give him God status? Because outside of those two, I wouldn't call many of his other films that great. Thelma and Louise, Black Hawk Down and Gladiator are about the only other ones that are well above average. I do have a soft spot for Legend however.
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Yes.<p> If he never makes another movie as long as he lives his place in film history is secure.
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BOB ORCI somehow attached to this.
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July 31, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST
"I've seen things you wouldn't believe...like aliens!"
by MrMysteryGuest
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...is a new batch of clever nickname-based insults. Hoboload and Cockspasm are SO last TB.
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is a douche. LEGEND is an amazing achievement, considering that there was no CG back in the day, and the entire world it depicts was largely created by hand. Tom Cruise is the film's only shortcoming. BLACK RAIN is a masterfully made, stylized thriller, that has features Mrs. Speilberg at her HOTNESS apex. Michael Douglas is a believable badass. Essential 80's.
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Not every movie has to be cast with fucking Firefly actors.
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I've hoped for a long time that Ridley Scott would return to Alien. Not keen on a 'Prequel' idea, I'd prefer to keep the mystery intact. He should do a direct sequel to Alien, plenty of scope between that and the beginning of Aliens.<p>And Elliot Goldenthal back for the score.
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(...as if anyone is keeping a record) I think this Alien prequel has the deck stacked against it. I think there's certainly another (several) good sci-fi movies in Ridley, but a cash-grab-reeking, post-peak return to a genre classic, the impact of which was a result of FAR more happy accidents than just Scott's involvement, does not inspire confidence. AVP was a no-brainer, too, and look how that turned out. And I can't imagine any (good) way to shoehorn Weaver back into this franchise, I seriously hope they don't attempt to do that. Her character's arc is over and done with since part 3 (arguably since 2), she's not integral to the franchise anymore and would only further muddle things. This should be a standalone story at the most. If FOX wants a franchise, they should try making a new one rather than resuscitating one that they've already savagely beaten to death.
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perhaps we'll get something relatively decent...I don't have a lot of hope/faith in the premise itself mind you, but Scott isn't dumb, so perhaps it'll be good...
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Ridley's name will draw some top acting talent to the project as well.<p>And I agree - this can be a Ripley-less story.
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...drinking this early in the day?<p> No accounting for taste if you like Alien more as a film...but "..shit Blade Runner"???<p> You are AICN's version of Ron Perlman from Quest Fo Fire.
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and the only excitement a hardcore Alien fan like myself can generate is minimal.<p> Fuck you Fox!<p> Fuck you for what you have done to this franchise.
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This is the most disappointing news I've heard in such a long time. Why can't they leave the series alone? Ridley Scott and James Cameron made the best Alien movies of the series for sure. But this Body of Lies-era Ridley Scott is talentless and this will only ruin the reputation that the first film has.
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but they are both sci-fi masterpieces. And Oh man, I have a bad feeling about this. Ridley Scott isn't what he used to be. Fox will also neuter him like they did with Kingdom of Heaven. The director's cut is his last masterpiece IMO.
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Scott directs. Stars Summer Glau as Ripley - the woman portrayed a mentally traumatised yet graceful psychic AND an emotionless robot.
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Yup, Goldenthal to do the score. That would be incredible. <p> You just know Scott will pick the blandness of Hans Zimmer though...
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Goddamn right. Alien 3 is excellent if you watch the Director's Cut.
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what a bunch of uncreative talentless hacks are on this site. You cant make a better prequel? BULLSHIT. With the right story and excellent direction, anything can be done.
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I recall other than Tim Curry's makeup FX being amazing that film was pretty bad. With the right material Scott excels, especially 'METAL HURLANT'/'HEAVY METAL' inspired film.
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a story about the Space Jockey (altho I would LOVE to see that film). What you have is the possiblity of seeing how Weyland Yutani came to know about the 'signal'. They knew about it long enough before the Nostromo left dock and replaced the science adviser with the 'artificial person'ASH. So what this could be about is A. The group that originally discovered the signal. B. A group that discovered some part of the space jocky race that lead to the signal. C. How the space jocky came to land on Archeron in the first place. or D. A combination of all the above. A short intro with the Jockie's crew being wiped out with him the last survivor landing on the moon and placing a warning signal before dying... a human group that discovers a piece of Jockey technology that leads them to the derilict ship where they try to capture an egg to bring back to the company, however that mission fails and the company then sends the Nostromo as sheep to the slaughter to bring back an alien for the weapons division.
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One of the last good and gritty crime-movies of the 80's.
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Both are sci masterpieces...Blade Runner is a film noir masterpiece as well. Blade Runner is sci fi but also transcends sci fi. <p> I saw Alien again this weekend. Really love the movie, especially the first half. The second half was mind blowing too...the first couple times you watch...but now I know the beats. I know the Alien is there in the escape pod. I know the bodies are going to drop from the celling...the element of suspense is gone. A horror film's impact diminishes after repeat viewings. <p> Blade Runner does not rely on such elements. For my money it is infinitely more re watchable. It's production design, philosophical and mythical themes combined with it's futuristic yet timeless quality all add up to a masterwork...one of the few films that can be called a "work of art". <p> My two cents.
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No matter how hard I try, I can never sit through that whole movie without getting antsy/bored. It's an amazing movie to see, but it moves at snail's pace sometimes.
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Hope Fox doesn't fuck him over, AGAIN!
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Why would you buy 5 versions of a "shit" movie?
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O.K., well we know so much about the alien. Its life cyle, how it looks, etc. The mystery is gone, we know everything. So I would say that the prequel should introduce more questions than answers. Fuck, the name is 'ALIEN' and as such what we see in this new film should fuck with our heads just as much as the first film. Just thumb through H.R. Giger's Necronomicon books to see the potential that the prequel could introduce. Maybe the ALIEN we know is just the tip of the iceberg? I think it should be. Ridley Scott wanted the ALIEN in the first film to always be changing shape and how it moved, unlike the way humans move (like the 'crabwalk' in Lambert's death cut from the film). He wanted to hire a acrobat to see if they could do weird positions and movement, but it never panned out. He also thought about puppetry, but the budget and the technology wasn't there. This aspect of the ALIEN was never fully used in the sequels except for the wall running. I think there is plenty that can be added into the prequel that will create more mystery and 'Alien' aspects to the mythos.
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Your point is...?
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it must really suck.
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There are plenty of movies with one edit that REALLY suck. By your logic they should all be great.<p> You sure you want to go down that road?
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Man, has this series gone downhill and fast. Alien is probably my favorite movie all-time. Aliens is one of the best sequels ever. Alien3, despite Fincher and perhaps Sigourney Weaver's best work of the series, is a deeply, deeply flawed echo of the first two - mostly because of script problems and studio meddling, but still, even in Director's Cut, deeply flawed. Alien Resurrection is an action-movie abomination, a complete piece of trash. And let's not even invoke the other movies, we all know they exist and that's enough. But those first two, man, are they great. With Ridley Scott's involvement, one feels a flicker of hope for something compelling, something nearly on the level of the first two movies...but only a flicker. I'm afraid the mystique is gone, the well is dry, and the whole concept has been killed by Hollywood hacks...how sad, but we'll always have those first two movies to enjoy, I could watch them today and still feel a tiny sip of that original thrill.
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Really there are only two versions that matter. The Original Theatrical Version and The Final Cut. The "Unrated European" Version was released originally to get people to buy the video. The Director's Cut was not really a Director's Cut because Ridley didn't directly supervise it, although it incorporated some of his original intentions. And the Test Screening Print is just that, an early unfinished version with temp score for sneak previews. <br /><br />I have in my collection the TOUCH OF EVIL 50th Anniversary Edition which contains the Theatrical Version, The Preview Version discovered in 1976 and The Restored Version based on Welles memo that was re-edited in 1998. I could happily sit through any or all of these versions over and over again. Most Blade Runner fans feel the same way.
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Alien and Blade Runner were fallout from the creative team assembled for Jodorowsky's Dune. Scott was just a director for hire. I wonder if he will come up with the goods without that creative team behind him?
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July 31, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST
Alien and Bladerunner can't be a good movies because
by Trannyformers_Apologist
they didn't make 700 million at the Box Office like Ice Age 3 and Transformers 2 did.<P>Right? <P> People who enjoyed Transformers 2 have great taste in movies and valid opinions about movies.....right?
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I forgot about this board. If a movie doesn't make any money. It's good.
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Then grab that Scott/Cameron scriptment/treatment/whatever that they were working on and make THAT the movie. Of course, I'll watch the flick for sure now that Scott is back on the Alien bandwagon. I'd love to see how Scott works in the varous additions to the life-cycle / style that were added to the alien in the subsequent movies, and see how he uses it. (Scott doing his version of Cameron's Alien Queen? Now that has some potential). So bring on, ALIEN: FLIGHT OF THE SPACE JOCKEY starring Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe. It'll probably be better than "A Good Year" anyway.
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I seriously don't get it. Lenoardo DiCaprio gets his fingers smashed off with a hammer in the film's climax. Any movie where the climax of the film involves Leo getting his fingers SMASHED OFF BY A HAMMER is at least good.
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who helms it. As long as Weaver's back.
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this forced the directors to get creative. I only hope Scott doesn't loose his vision for technology.
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Don't be silly, my friend. Box office has nothing to do with a movie being good or bad. If box offcie was the all tell, then how would you classify a movie which would make bank in USA but flopped in the rest of the world, like, say, Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek?<br><br>And by the way, Blade Runner wasa much bigger sucess internationally then in USA, in fact, the immediate reacessment of that movie comenced in Japan and europe, where the movie have always been loved and respected since the day it was released. Only the USa had trouble with it and clasificed it as failure becaue of the local poor box office performance.<br><br>I never get tired of saying this again and again and as many times as it gets: box office only measures popularity, not quality.<br><br>And Alien was a huge box office sucess when it was released back in the day.
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The new Alien movie is a prequel, remember? And most prequels demystify the movies that choronologically happen afterwards. I'm uneasy about this, even if it has Ridley Scott directing.<br><br>To be fair to ol' Ridders, the man has been talking about a prequel to Alien since the early 90s, so this is no idea of spur of the moment thing for him.
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The real question is, with Scott making a new Alien movie, what will happen to his movie project The Forever War? I hope he doesn't abandon it.
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The more I think about it the more a prequel to Alien becomes a bad idea.
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What's it like going through life with no taste?
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The new Star Trek was immensely popular in the rest of the world as well. Not only that, it was the first Star Trek movie to get mostly favorable reviews in most countries as well. <p> Since you arrogantly assume that no Americans have a clue as to what goes on outside their borders, you think you can serve up a steaming pile of bullshit like that merely to serve your masturbatory and obsessive hatred of Abrams. <p> Like I told you earlier, shit-for-brains, when you finally get banned again (which you will), you're going to have to think up a new shtick or we're all going to know it's you again. <p> Then again, considering how fucking arrogant you are, you'll probably keep churning on and on about Abrams and/or Bay in every single talkback you partake in, while at the same time assuming we're so stupid that we'll swallow the idea of yet another, "totally different" Abrams hate-wanking, Portuguese asshole who just happens to show up after AsimovLives gets banned. <p> And you wonder why I constantly insult you... <p> Fucking tool.
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...Blade Runner wasn't universally loved out side the U.S. either. While it had more supporters there than in the U.S. at the time, it was still a critical and financial failure.
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Only if you count the UK as the rest of the world.
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Except maybe the UK.
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I know why you constantly insult me: because you are a pompous idiot.
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Aug. 1, 2009, 6:48 a.m. CST
And if you have a problem with my opinion of Jar Jar Abrams
by AsimovLives
go suck a lemon.
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I'll be 42 this year and actually remember first hand how it was received. At the time, I was living in Sweden and it was fucking panned in the press, as was The Thing. I have since lived in several other countries and it wasn't until its breakthrough on VHS that it began to win universal praise. <p> I've also read Sammon's book, among other things, and nowhere was Blade Runner anything approaching a box office hit or a universally acclaimed insta-classic. <p> This is your basic problem, asshole -- you think you're smarter than everyone else and throw outright lies in here, confident that nobody can prove you wrong. <p> You fail.
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...of Abrams and Trek, I see you haven't stepped up to refute my claim that you're lying about its reception around the world. <p> I wonder why...
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It will turn out that somehow a mutated Alien was spawned, female in origin known as "MuffWilliamsifisniff" (played by Shia LaBoof) and it's alien craft landed in the football field of an an American University... where a certain Doctor... Dr Jones is working! Yes Its Indy 5 meets Alien crossover time! How is the mutant alien related to his son other than each is a douche? Indy must find out in time (& whip someone sensless for no reason that he mistakes for a nazi)
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Tell me about it. I know that Ridley Scott has been wanting to do a "alien homeworld" movie since decades, but i always fear that is like over-bombing and a diservice to the franchise. I think it might rob the mystique and mystery of the aliens. It seems that Ridley Scott wants to explain the aliens. Scott and his filmmakers team did so much background stuff to justify the alien (stuff that is never explained or put in the Alien movie but serves as background support), that it seems he'a aching to have it all put front and center in a movie. The have it all expalined. And really, is that needed?<br><br>I can remember long converstaions i had with my friends, and we all speculating about what the alien might be, who was the space jockey, was the alien a real natural organism or a bio-mechanical construct, were they the dogs of the space jockey race, etc, etc. Lots of talks and specualtions about such subject, and the coolest thing was the mystery of it, that there would never be answers. Well, it seems now there will be answers. And i'm not sure if i like that.
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Pull my finger.
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Yeah, just what I thought -- you pulled those bullshit "facts" straight out of your Iberian ass.
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There are two Alien movies and they tell any and every story that needs to be told -- ALIEN and ALIENS. Everything after has ranged from pointless to godawful. I don't care if Ridley Scott is involved, this is a STUPID and POINTLESS idea.
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You know, the ones who showed up on LV286 all crash-landed n' shit. Yeah, you know, a 15 minute short film might be neat. But a full length prequel? Again... WHY???
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With the difference that i really liked Alien3, today it proves you and me might had been born by the hip. ttoally agree with you on your acessments, friend. Really, why a prequel Alien movie? This is one of the rare moments i rather wish they had gone sequel direction, not prequel. I don't know, man, i really don't know, but i'm not optimistic.
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Aug. 1, 2009, 8:43 a.m. CST
Open letter: Sir Ridley Scott, please, do The Forever War instea
by AsimovLives
Don't let that project slip from you and go to some dumb fashionable hack, just becasue you want to do a Alien: Origins movie. I think i speak for many who really wished the mystery of the aliens to be left alone, and for you to deliver a kick ass TRUE SF space battle movie with The Forever War. If ever there was a time for a The Forever War movie to be made, it's today.
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Should we get back the original writers too? No, Bobby Ballbag will be fine.
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Aug. 1, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST
It's been 30 years since Alien, there's nothing wrong with demys
by Tall_Boy66
You can only be like, "oooooh, the MYSTERY of the ALIEN" till you gotta put up or shut up. This isn't sacred text from on high, it's horror/science fiction and if they wanna show the origins, sure, why not? It's not like making an origin movie about Citizen Kane or whatever. I'm cool with an origin, as long as it has completely new characters, and not "Kid Ripley" or whatever.
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I hate talkback headers. I really, truly do.
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After 3 and 4, and the terrible AVP series, The Alien is about as scary as my bellybutton lint
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Domestic: $254,334,469 67.0% + Foreign: $125,478,982 33.0% ..so making over $100 million overseas is flopping these days? Especially considering the budget was $150 million.
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Those numbers became less them impressive when you take into account that half that money goes to the local distributors... sometimes. Sometimes, the distributers parlet of the box office take can be as high as 70%, depending on countries.<br><br>So, no, it's not all that rosy about Dawson's Trek abroad. And least you forget, the rest of the world population has about 22 times more then the United States, the box office numbers being about almost half as much in the US means pratically an apathic reaction to the movie. Excluding the UK, which imitates the USA in everything about movies response.
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Also the highest grossing Star Trek movie in the entire series = flop. It's always nice to see when crazy idiots are confronted with facts and they continue to be crazy idiots about it. Really quite entertaining.
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Ridley Scott's returning to sci-fi. Alien shits all over Star Wars and the ilk. This is a geek site, people should be creaming their pants over this news.
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Yoyu keep forgettng this fact: half that money (at elast) goes to te distributor,s not the studio. I knowe you Dawson Trek fanboys are like the creationists, you only see the things you want to see to support your side, but the fact rmains, gross box office results are no real measure of the true profits the movie will take. At the very least, HALF that money belongs to the distributors. As such, Star Trek is not that popular as you first though. And the popularity is only happening in USA. And UK. Deal with it.
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JJ's Star Trek was a smash hit. Critically and in box office. <p> Star Trek is sci fi fantasy. People enjoyed themselves. Hell, my wife even cried in the opening scene. People found it exciting, escapist entertainment with iconic characters they have a connection with or at least are familiar with. <p> Your unrelenting jihad against it makes you appear unhinged. The things you critique as factual evidence of it's suckage are not even on most people's radar. You in turn cite this as evidence of people being sheep.<p> My advice to you to take or leave is: Lighten the fuck up. Why? because JJ an co are going to be cranking out at least another 2 of these and I don't think you can hang. Granted, it amuses the hell out of me to watch you kick and scream against the inevitable blockbusters which they will be...even to the point of trying to contradict the b.o numbers...but I think eventually your head will explode.
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granted, it barely was "Star Trek" anymore. But it did play out like your average summer blockbuster. But it literally had nothing on last year's Iron Man, and certainly not The Dark Knight.
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Put that in your mouth and choke on it.
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Is still a glorious "fuck you" of a move. I felt sadder when Brett and Parker bought it, frankly. And Ridley Scott has the class to do things right. And "Body of Lies" features great work from Mark Strong and a chunky Russell Crowe playing what seems like a Ricky Gervais from "The Office", if he were a CIA handler. Fucking hilarious.
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I enjoyed Star Trek. Had a couple of big problems with it...nothing in the realm of "Star Trek heresy" but more along the lines of just bad writing choices and editing. I may revisit it on dvd...maybe not.<p> Iron Man and of course Dark Knight were tighter films (script wise) and more well made. I wanted to revisit those and will do so again. But the incessant shit storm Asimov whips up for Trek I can't imagine doing for any film. If I can think of a film I hate THAT much I'll let you know.
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only question is how you check out. Do you want it on your feet? Or on your fuckin knees, BEGGING?? I aint much for begging. Nobody ever gave me nuthin'. So I say fuck that thing...Lets FIGHT IT!!!!!
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Would anyone watch an Alien movie without Sigourney Weaver?
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Sucked horrible ass.
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Aug. 1, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST
Why...Why are the innocent punished?
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Why the sacrifice? Why the pain? There aren't any promises. Nothings certain. Only that some get called and some get saved. She won't ever know the hardship and grief for those of us left behind. So we commit these bodies to the void, with a glad heart. For within each seed there is the promise of a flower.
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people are sick of him (for some reason), but he's a much much much better actor than Bale or Damon or DiCaprio. Don't blame Crowe for Scott's recent disappointments, blame Scott himself. KOH: DC was his last great film. But he also made Gladiator, which was awesome aswell and it had Crowe in it. I'm hoping Robin Hood is his return to form.
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I'm assuming they are just gonna ignore THAT whole franchise.
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I don't care the box office results of Dawson's Trek. What really drives you crazy is that the movie is not the smash hit you claimit to be, the international takings are disapointing. And half the money that movie earns, domestically and international (at the very least) goes to the distributors. And don't forget, toa dd the the movie's budget, you have to sum up the studio's expenditure on advertizement, which in a movie like Dawson's Trek might raise as up as 100 million dollars. And don't forget the studios have to pay the banks interest from the loan, counding since pre-production. This is why it's not mrely counting from the dollar after the movie's budget that you can effectuavely say if the movie in in profit or not, you see? So, the movie is a lesser hit then you DawsonTrekkies make it out to be. In fact, from the theatrical take, the movie might just be breaking even.Now that really must hurt.<br><br>Dawson's Trek will definatly make a profit and make the movie flot, but that will happen with the DVD sales and rentals. That will be the time when you guys will be able to sing songs of the Dawson's Trek finnacial sucess. Which in the ne means nothing because the movie is still shit, regardless.
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I also agree that Alien3 is terribly underrated by the action junkies and that the moie contains some pretty good dialogues.<br><br>Who are the ones disastified with Alien3? Those who wanted it to be Aliens 2, a carbon copy of Aliens, and didn't got it. I give props to Alien3 for not being Aliens 2. That would had been the easy way out.
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According to his way of counting, only movies which rack up Titanic-like numbers at the B.O. are "hits". <p> It's KILLING him that Abrams' Trek was the most critically acclaimed and financially successful of the Trek movies. KILLING him. <p> Having caught him in his bold-faced lying about both Trek and BR makes it even sweeter. <p> Suck it, AssLives, you consescending, arrogant, scumsucking poseur.
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The only way to call Dawson's Trek decent is to kill all standards. By that token, Terminator 4, Transformers 2, GI Joe and Wolverine were also decent movies.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Dan is not dead or anything. He is a friend of mine and he and his family could really use a big job. He is getting older and he has health problems, but he is as sharp as ever. Sad that the best writers are just dumped by the wayside in favor of the new hotness.
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There are so many people here that truly think Alien 3 was any good at all. That movie was such unrelenting garbage, David Fincher doesn't even acknowledge it's existence. You know a movie is pure crap when the director insists on pretending it never happened. It has zero to do with not getting it, and everything to do with the fact that the movie was like a really bad handjob from start to finish. The kind where the girl just grabs your shit as hard as she can and starts rubbin' it real fast, causing a chafe. You don't care whether or not you cum, you're not going to come out of it satisfied, you just want it to end, quickly and with as little pain as possible.
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That's abit too harsh now. Those films you listed are like feces. Star Trek was merely urine. You know what I mean?
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Alien 3 was a complete pile of crap. But maybe the "fans" are comparing it to Resurrection? Which is why they say they like Alien 3.
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Next thing you know, some pretentious twat will rename herself "Diablo Cody".
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I hope to hell he hasn't abandoned it for this tripe... but then again, after his last bunch of box office droopings, this might open the door to The Forever War. I just hope he hasn't forgotten it!
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I didn't know Ridley Scott directing another Alien film could possibly be bad news, but then again I fogot AICN is known for its opinionated, pretentious, elitist wannabe film buff hacks who are so thinly veiled they've been parodied in actual films. Thanks for reminding me never to come back here agian. But yeah, let me just say most people not in this place find this news to be freaking great, and I agree with them. As for the plot of the film, it doesn't fucking matter. As long as it has the suspense and gothic visuals of the original, it will be a massive success imo. I just want a scary, weird horror film that's all. I'm sure Scott will take advantage of the budget he will be given this time and make something that is both visually breath-taking and scary as hell It will also not dispel the mysteriousness of the original. The original will always stand by itself. I watch the origninal all the time and the ending still has the same impact of mystery and what will happen to Ripley even after I've watched Aliens over and over again. If you can't watch Alien for what it is, you have issues, and that's your problem. This isn't fucking Rob Zombie. Scott is a professional and is not going to make something that will embarass himself this late in his career. I'm sure he wouldn't have agree to this if he knew he couldn't make something good.
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