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UPDATED!! More NIMH Rats On The Way??
Merrick again...
Seems Bluth's SECRET OF NIMH can be seen, right now, via the Hulu embed below:
Or, you can GO HERE to watch the film via a larger playback window.
Thanks to Brian for the heads up about this!
Merrick here...
Robert C. O'Brien's book MRS. FRISBY AND THE RATS OF NIMH (HERE
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Robert C. O'Brien's "Rats of NIMH" won the Newbery Medal in 1972 and has been a staple in children's bookstores and libraries since. The story centers on a mouse -- the titular Mrs. Frisby, re-named Mrs. Brisby in the MGM movie -- faced with a crisis when her son falls ill and she must move her family to escape a farmer's plow.
Mrs. Frisby enlists a group of former lab rats, whom she soon discovers run a highly evolved society, who possess advanced technologies and divide labor in the manner of a human community.
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It's likely the new "NIMH" would combine live-action and animation in the manner of "Alvin & the Chipmunks" and other kiddie hybrids.
...contextualizes THR HERE.
ILLUSIONIST director Neil Burger would script the new project (and direct?).
Don Bluth previously adapted this material THE SECRET OF NIMH in 1982 (HERE
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Mrs. Frisby enlists a group of former lab rats, whom she soon discovers run a highly evolved society, who possess advanced technologies and divide labor in the manner of a human community.
[EDIT}
It's likely the new "NIMH" would combine live-action and animation in the manner of "Alvin & the Chipmunks" and other kiddie hybrids.
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motherfuckers.
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and not the later direct to video sequel.
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Great, a CGI NIMH with fart jokes, ***BIG CELEBRITY VOICES*** and modern, "hip" pop-culture jokes, with a score by Steve Jablonsky.Elizabeth Hartman is rolling over in her grave.
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Oh please no .... please nooooooo
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...they'll probably get Will Ferrell to voice Jeremy, and Angelina Jolie as Mrs. Brisby.Shoot me.
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Fuck-a-doo.
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The Bluth version has beautiful design and animation, but is barely recognizable as the original story, which was a favorite of mine as a kid. I remember seeing it in the theater and being massively irritated. I can appreciate its charms now, but would enjoy a faithful version.
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They can remake shit til they turn blue in the face!
I don't have to spend my money on it.
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them using "Frisby."
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Take what you can when you can, and also, they've learned nothing.
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... am I the only one who still remembers that they announced a Dark Crystal sequel directed by none other than Gendy Tartakovsky? Under normal circumstances I'd be more than happy without a sequel but if Gendy is on board, so am I.
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how far off the mark Bluth's version was.
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made some great stuff. Doubt anything will be as good or even come as close to looking as great.
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NOW THEY ARE GOING TOO FAR!!!
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Where is that Arrested Development movie anyway? Throw me some 'cool news' news on that front.
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no..i will keep the original thanks..
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Jul 28, 2009 2:50:22 PM CDT
The book was good, but the movie was an improvement
by nasty in the pasty
One thing about the book that's always bugged me...the whole point of Mrs. B's quest is to save her son, by AVOIDING taking him out of her cinder block home so he won't be exposed to the cold air and die. But when sthe rats finally arrive to move the house...TIMMY IS SITTING OUTSIDE! Yes, bundled up against the cold, but still, OUTSIDE!!! Why the hell couldn't she have just bundled him up and left before "Moving Day" instead of going through all that shit? The climax of the Bluth version is TEN times more exciting and LOGICAL.
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Jeffrey Tambor says they're making a quadrilogy, they already have all the scripts written, and that everyone's on board. Oh, that Tambor, what will we do with him?
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Please.
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Was actually my father's roommate at UCLA. He has certainly had a brilliant career in animation since then. I'm pretty sure NIMH was his first film with his name so prominantly displayed and it is an excellent film based on a very good children's book. I'm psyched for a revisitation of the story on the big screen. I'm not sure something like Wateraship Down would work in a CGI-live action environment, but I think NIMH would fit perfectly.
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Mandalay, help me! I've come aflame again!
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Killing Justin in the books was heart breaking as a kid. I remember reading for school, my mom and I would take turns reading to each other, because the book was huge for a fourth grader. I remember my mom reading that part with a look of "Oh, well this is where his childhood is going to take a left turn." And it did. When I saw the movie, I was glad Justin, yeah they Disneyed it up, but it works. It was also a bitch death, too. Never could understand why they killed him and not Nicomadus. Nic was on his last legs anyway.
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thanks to the film...dont remake this..YOU PEOPLE ARE SAYING DONT REMAKE THIS BUT ARE BEGGING FOR GHOSTBUSTERS 3?????
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Elizabethans and fighting with swords -- while cool, and helping to launch the Medieval Rodent subgenre -- was an improvement. That RADICALLY altered the ambiance.
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Redwall, Mouseguard, Mice Templar, The Tale of Despereaux, and probably many more I'm unaware of.
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And I have this urge, watching the Nimh trailer, to control the action in response to little hint-giving flashes on the screen.
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Probably not, so why remake this reputable independent animated film?
Simply because you don't have Disney to slam their fist down and guard their classics?
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the original used to scare the crap out of me. And it was beautiful. The new one...I doubt it will be the same.
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remake, and not by Disney: The Black Cauldron. Which was a terrible movie, and a lousy adaptation.
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As much as I hate this idea too let's not pretend they didn't use the celebrity voices of their time when they made the original classic. Shannon Doherty anyone?Also, I see on IMDB that there was apparently a direct to video sequel made in '88. Anyone ever see it? Any good?
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Its another adaptation of the book. Just like Tim Burton's live-action Alice in Wonderland is NOT a remake of the cartoon, or his Chocolate Factory was NOT a remake of the musical film.
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I'm a big fan, but you're right, if they're going to do it, do it as per the book.
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It would be cool if they stuck to the same tone as Don Bluth's film, which is perhaps my favorite animated feature of the '80s.
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Jerry Goldsmith's score for the 1982 movie.
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Doubtful the new version would involve the swordfights and drawing of blood. NIMH is an outright classic.
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is another version of WATERSHIP DOWN. It could be CGI animation, or a mix of live action/photorealistic CGI. I feel that the 1978 version didn't do the book enough justice
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Has anyone anywhere ever seen the unedited version? supposedly it was actually a much longer and darker film and Disney got cold feet and cut the fuck out of it...I've always wished it would get a restored Directors Cut with a PG-13 rating...the original is not bad,but nowhere near as badass as the books(which I always enjoyed way the hell more than Tolkeins shit....buncha goddamn hobbits and trees running around doing nothing for four books...)
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I totally agree. A remake is welcome if they actually are faithful to the book.
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The "take what you can..." and "then you learned nothing" just made me laugh out loud here in the office. Thanks, bastard! :)
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You are correct D. Vader.
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If the source material is classic enough, and therefore presumably bigger and more popular and more important then any movie adaptation can possibly be, why can't it be accepted that there be remakes and multiple versions? As is the case with Shakespeare (or other major plays). There have been multiple movie versions of his plays.
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As a HUGE fan of the book (though only after seeing the movie alot as a little kid), I don't knwo about another adaptation of Watership. I'll be the first ti admit that I may be way to biased to see objective reasoning here, but the original animated WD movie is and will always be the ONLY film adaptation of the book as far as I'm concerned. Yes, there are things that were changed for the film, but they were comparatively minor overall. The biggest one I can think of off-hand is the exclusion of Strawberry going with the Sandleford rabbits. Although with entirely different animation and a less "fantastic" feel, animated films from the later-70's and early 80's have a darker tone to them than any animated movie made today that is meant to have a "family" audience can ever have. it just happen today, for a number of reasons. I've never actually seen any of the british WD tv series that was done a while back, but I read it wasn't as good as the original movie at handling the characters, etc. There's no reason to do another adaptation of WD and I REALLY don't want to even think of it as a live-action/CGI mix. The thought is revolting. Adams has other books, let's see Plague Dogs done that way, if someone is jonesing to do it. But, not Watership. There's nothing to be gained by it. Just release the original film with a decent marketing campaign. it'll still be cheaper, you cost-conscious hollywood pricks.
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i think, because Shakespeare's work was being re-worked even before talkies were being made. So, there's precedent for it. But, to your larger point (b/c it isn't just being done with Shakespeare stuff), I agree. Pretty fucking hypocritical coming from me right onthe heels of my comment against another film adaptation of Watership Down, right? Well, I admit that. I thnk the difference is in taking something that is essentially the same source material and re-adaoting it to another medium repeatedly waters down the impact of the source material. It also makes it more accessible to people who weren't previosuly familiar with it, which can be a blessing and a curse. I want to get into this more, but I have to get back to work. So, I'll cut to the end: it's not the actual re-adaptation of a work that I'm against, it's the quality of the re-adaptation. And I realize that's subjective - no one sets out to MAKE a shitty film- but I don't think enough of the people involved in the decision take the time to really decide if they are truly goign to be able to make a better film than the one that already exists. You might look at an original and say, "How could I do worse?" but that really misses the point. The point is so make it something people want to see AND will enjoy seeing more than once. If it's been done once already, move on and find new material - there's TONS of it out there. If it hasn't, it needs to be asked why it didn't work before and can it really be made to work a second (or third) time around before some studio decides to make another Death Race movie.
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The animated Plague Dogs film is just as sacrosanct to me as WD is. Just back off with your cocking remakes people. Get an original idea for once.
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I learned to type at a 1989 afterschool workshop in middle school. fuck it!
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forgive me for even bringing it up. As a fan of Adams' work, I shouldn't have even made reference! Let's pretend I wrote "The Giving Tree" instead. (A decent book, but one I'm not attached to, nor do I think has ever been made into a feature film.)
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never seen the film
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... so when I read the book in 4th grade I was dearly disappointed. No sword fights, no magic stone. The villain was dead before the action in the book starts. What was that? I know many may see the book as a classic, but for me it was a tiresome bore. Just a bunch of mice talking in a yard.
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:D I'm just mad at the remake sausage machine that is Hollywood at the moment :/ I have fond memories of NiMH, why spoil them? How about a live action Lady and the Tramp? Or hell - Toy Story? Depressing...
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They took the Land before time route. IE lightened tone, musical, etc etc. Very disappointing, and over all cringe worthy. and this is coming from someone that is very forgiving with movies.
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Is he alive?
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Watership Down needs to be left alone. The book is a classic, the movie also stands alone as a classic and there is no possible way a new adaption of the book would have a tenth of the feel or the magic of that first movie. It's testament to the film that it is one of only two pieces of screenwork that can make a 35 year old grizzled stallion of a sexual deviant like myself actually cry - the ending of this with that bloody song, and Hazel's spirit leaping it's way into the afterlife, and the ending of Band of Brothers with the baseball match. There, I've shared. Feels good. Fuck you for laughing you heartless pricks. They just get me, right there, you know? No, you don't know you cold, emotionless robots. Fuck all of you. Sniff.
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That it doesn't turn in to the Farts of Nimh. I didn't read the book but the original film is one of my favourites. I worry Hollywood today doesn't have the balls to pull it off. Maybe if Where the Wild Things Are does okay.
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Is Big Lob in this adaptation?
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I agree that the original movie was far off the book, but, come on. Is nothing sacred? This movie was the first movie that I watched 1,000 times when I was little. (Thank you, HBO!) It remains a huge part of me, a huge part of my childhood. I know it's just a fucking movie, but what the fucking fuck!?!?!? At some point, we the people must just stand up and say no more! I admit to watching quite a lot of these remakes and re-imaginings and re-whatever-the-fucks. I even admit to buying tickets to some of them and watching them in theaters. However, this is just going too far. It's not Nimh necessarily that makes it go too far over the edge, but Nimh should stand to show all of us that there is no more integrity whatsoever left with these Hollywood fuckers, they will just regurgitate any idea that has ever been put out there to make a profit. I understand that they exist in order to make those profits, and I can't hate on them for taking the easy way out at almost every single turn. It's our fault for letting it get this far. Al of us, me included and you included too! Don;t go, don;t rent, don;t buy, don;t watch. That is the only thing that will keep these fucks honest and force them to put an original idea upon the screen. FUCK!
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made into a movie.
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this is my favorite childhood movie- it's finally happened to me
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yah you know i just made that up for shits and giggles but hey Smithee tell him HES DEAD TO ME DAMMIT!!,hah no but really tell him hes awesome and ive always loved his work
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Standing on a soap box and trying to rally a talk back into essentially boycotting Hollywood would have gone out of vogue by now...
I'm a big fan of NIMH, both the book and the film. I find it very easy to separate the two, and find enjoyment in the differences between them, much like the Lord of the Rings films and books.
I can't say I'm too interested in a remake, re-imagining, or whatever you choose to call it, even if said remake is more, "Faithful" to the source material. I desperately miss cell animation, and CGI makes me sad. -
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Totally unnecessary. Fuck this idea.
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have always been a staple of Hollywood.
Many silent era films were remade or re-adapted once talkies and color gained prominence.
This new "well CG it" is no different.
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Worked on the original "NIMH" film. Bluth was brilliant, and a gentleman. The people around him were amazingly talented. And knew how to party.
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I knew they would do it, I just hope they keep some dark themes in and don't gloss it over with Toy Story crap.
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as i said at the end of my post,i genuinely do love bluth as i love animation altogether,watched his films many times growing up,i have nothing but fondness and respect for the man.
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a Dragon's Lair movie...perhaps they think it would only appeal to grown 80's kids?
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Jul 28, 2009 8:00:14 PM CDT
Grindhouse: Theatrical Cut Available on Netflix Streaming!!!!
by henry fool
Just thought I'd let y'all know that the double feature, theatrical cut version of Grindhouse is available for viewing over Netflix Instant Streaming service.
It's not an HD quality stream but it's still looks all right. I'm watching it on XBOX Live on a 61" Samsung with 1080p resolution. The quality of the picture is a little blurry but not bad and its in letterbox format. The grainy style the film was shot it makes it watchable in this format.
I'm one of the few who saw this one in the theater and will always maintain that you haven't really seen this movie unless you get it in its double feature format. As far as I know, this is the first time its been available in original cut since its all too brief theatrical run.
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on the subject that its the first movie i can remember watching countless times as a kid. i've forgotten it now but it seemed to have some serious emotion in it and really scared me. ah, the good ol days, when a kids cartoon movie had me tensing up. now i have to youtube the singularity to get barely worked up. try it. i also agree on the point that remakes and sequels have gone too far. maybe it works, but i have a feeling the alternative would work to it'd just be a little harder. i think there'd be a lot more movies i like out there if all those billions of dollars weren't spent on rehash sequels where the allure is effects that are outdated in 5 years. but im not just bitching...the writer in my handle is busy busy. im doin it! fuck the singularity! get rich!
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Didn't really have anything to add, just found this funny...just about sums it up.
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that were written while i was typing, and now i feel compelled to comment on. henry, yes i noticed this a month ago actually. i've been putting it off but i better not it wont last there forever. however thats because i was one of the true fans who saw it in theaters. and it was awesome! hell, i had a one day job guarding one of QT's sets on that movie, no lie. im very proud of that, i had a job at a security place for films in austin when quentin was shooting, and i guarded a scaffolding in a field in a neighborhood, that scaffolding was used in one of the first few shots of death proof, when jungle julia looks out the window to her friends on the road. the room was actually a fake room, on a scaffold. big deal...for me. and i dont think u could have seen the trailers after the first movie until now on netflix. im not sure if they're releasing a double feature on dvd but i did hear a full length combined kill bill dvd is coming, nice. and to fareal, i used to be caught up on 2012, and still am a bit, but after all the apocalypse means to reveal. and something that was revealed to me recently, can be see if you youtube the singularity. thats what im on now. its real and scary. watch it!
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She wasn't even "Shannen Doherty" then. She was just a girl.
One could make a case for Dom DeLuise...but then, they created the character of Jeremy and cast the actor, as opposed to the other way around like on some of the movies made today.
I truly consider Goldsmith's NIMH score not only one of the best ever written for animation, but one of the best he's ever written. No offense to any POLTERGEIST devotees, but I think that NIMH deserved the Oscar nomination more. -
WTF? I loved the old cartoon, pretty cool in Disney way, but isn't there any new material that could have been green lighted before this? Remakes have been sucking lately (cept 4 ST)
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She was, what, SIX when that movie came out? She was hardly a "celebrity" at that point. The only "name" voice in the cast was the late Dom Deluise, and his character Jeremy is probably in less than ten minutes of screentime."Did you see that cat out there? All drippin', and, and WET...with WATER?"Plus, Elizabeth Hartman's delicate, tremulous performance as Mrs. B (goddammit, she's the CUTEST damn mouse I've ever seen...aside from Rescue Rangers' Gadget, of course) was a huge part of the first film's appeal, and you just know they'll turn her into a you-go-girl Rambo Mom figure to appeal to all the girls in the audience. Feh...
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Anyways, my review of the 2007 NIMH DVD sums up my feeligs on it more eloquently than I can post here:http://www.dvdinmypants.com/reviews/O-V/secret_nimh.php
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Thats 2 more years I must now outlive you by for failing to include Derek Jacobi as a 'name' among DeLouise and fucking Doherty.
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let's do it!
except you mcg,michael bay,brett ratner...
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spiderwick, golden compass, hellboy, delgo, nanny mcphee, planet terra etc etc etc, just make good remakes or "live action" / cgi versions.
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The formula for a great remake is so patently obvious: Start with a shitty movie that had a great premise and a decent amount of built-in nostalgia value, and then hand it over to a director who know what the hell he/she is doing.
DON'T TAKE FUCKIN' CLASSICS AND GIVE THEM THE ALVIN & THE CHIPMUNKS TREATMENT!!!!
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Jul 28, 2009 10:09:05 PM CDT
Why not just re-release the original on the big screen?
by royston lodge
So parents can take their kiddies to a movie they loved when they were young?!?!
Disney used to do this. I saw lots of classic Disney movies on the big screen when I was a kid.
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shoulda done my research on that. but my point remains that i agree with y'all that this shouldn't be done, but just not for the reason you gave (which is not to say i don't think you don't have other valid reasons; i sure as shit do.)
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I read all those books...loved them shits!
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Jacobi is a great actor, but just how much of a "name" is he (compared to today's animated films, where they cast the biggest celebrity regardless of whether or not they have interesting voices)? At least Peter Strauss was fairly well-known at the time (and he named his son after his NIMH character, Justin). Other than Strauss and DeLuise, the cast of NIMH pretty much consisted of fine actors as opposed to ***CELEBRITIES***, which is why that film holds up to this day. Compare it to Shark Tale, which not only crammed with ***CELEBRITIES***, but each character was a slavish, grotesque caricature of the ***CELEBRITY*** voicing him/her. Five years later, and that film seems hopelessly dated, while NIMH nearly 30 years on has a very timeless feel.It's a crying shame Elizabeth Hartman killed herself. When I watched the 1971 Clint Eastwood flick The Beguiled recently and saw/heard her, I was like, "Mrs. B!"
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Back before the widespread advent of video/DVD, it made financial sense to reissue the Disney Classics every seven or so years(to catch up with a new generation of kids), but by the early 90's, the tradition was essentially dead. Why pay $50 for tickets and popcrn when you can buy the VHS tape/DVD for $15 and own it forever?I think it's a shame. I would LOVE to see some classic films on the big screen (and not in the bullshit "Version You've Never Seen!" rejiggered versions, either), but aside from the occasional screening at arthouse places, it's a pipe dream. No one wants to sink $50 million into prints, advertising, ect, for a widespread reissue of something that's already available on DVD.
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He owns a frozen banana place now on Balboa Island in Orange County, CA.
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I get Nasty in the Pasty's point, but I'm still a strong supporter of re-issues and I don't think the studios have really given it a fair shake in today's world of viral and nostalgic hype. I mean, I don't know what a studio will commit from pre-development through the release of a new adaptation of NIMH, but can it be more than $30MM? Imagine what a $20MM marketing campaign, strategically placed to hit the Gen X and late Gen Y crowd who's nostalgic for it as well as the "family" demographic, could do to get audiences in to see a re-release for a month or so. I feel pretty certain they could at least recoup their money, plus 50%. Would they get that spending $30MM on a brand new adaptation that is not going to have the benefit of the Gen X & Y nostalgia, etc? I doubt it. but if Hollywood thinks there's enough pent up demand among moviegoers to see a NIMH movie, wouldn't it be cheaper to re-release and market an existing film that has generally good public opinion going for it? I'm just asking. I've never seen Hollywood address this question properly. I've wondered the same thign about some of the pointless sequels (I'm looking at you, Crystal Skull!), but with that kind of property, there really IS pent up demand, even if much of it is ridden with doubt. And it's still enough to hedge a bet that even the naysayers will mostly pay to see a new Indy or Ghostbuster movie and it'll inevitably make mroe than, say, a mass-marketed super-hyped re-release of the original, nostalgically beloved films. I hate that, but sadly believe it's probably true.
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Is this new Apatow-influenced GB film REALLY what you want to see? Or are you watching it b/c you really liek the 1st (and maybe 2nd) films and want this to be just as good? And if it's the latter of the two choices, wouldn't you rather just see a remastered re-release of the original? I know I would.
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I love the original. I know the story well, having seen the movie so many times. I can see how with the advent of CGI that a live action one could be interesting, but then again. whats the story for us old fans. It's the same damn story in the end. So it will be sorta boring for us old timers. For a new generation. Yeah, they need to see this film somehow. It has to be big again. Same goes for Watership Down
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Maybe this will hit a wall like The Last Unicorn project did. It was to even have Mia Farrow and Christopher Lee. But for 80s stuff, I don't mind. I was pissed about changing the name (thanks for whoever cleared up that it was the toy company that did it). I wish toons were as dark as Watership Down and Plague Dogs. Not all animation has to be for kids. Just do us all a favor if it is made, follow the book instead of the Bluth toon, and don't make the same mistakes Burton did with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. But overall I will believe it when I see it.
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Alive and working. Too bad he's been an outcast in Hollywood since Titan A.E....
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Royston, It's a book. Can be 1000 versions for all I care in film form as long as at least one is good.
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It's my favirite animation movie ever. And the Jerry Goldsmight score is wonderful, might be even one of his best.A Don Bluth-less NIMH movie doesn't fill me with much confidence, i'm affraid.
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Still hurts.
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Not sure I get the "live action" idea. That's usually to combine real people with animation (like Roger Rabbit, Alvin and the Chipmunks). But in the original movie, they barely show any humans. I think it was just the farmer and his wife and the NIMH scientists. Is anyone familiar with the book - were there more humans in it?
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That's all I think of when I hear the word Brisby now.
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wow we agree on something..funny how it was about 27 year old film of mice and rats.
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animation of course is severely dated, but it still held up fairly well. I even gave it the kid test, had a four year old and a two year old watch it, they shut up the whole time.
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So, I guess it's okay to make another Godfather movie then. After all, it's just another adaptation, not a remake. It's like Shakespeare!
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Why, because it's HAND-DRAWN? Technically the film holds up BEAUTIFULLY today. Now, those crappy toy-commercial TV 'toons from the 80's...THOSE have "dated" animation.As much as I liked Enchanted, one thing that bugged me was that they used the hand-drawn animated wraparound segments as visual shorthand for "musty" and "old-fashioned". Jesus, hand-drawn animated featured did HUGE business less than 15 years ago.
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We agree on more things then you remember right now. Which makes your tolerance for Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek incredibly puzzling for me.
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Rerun, shut the fuck up. You'll give bad studio folk that lurk here VERY bad ideas. Mark my words, though. You will see a Godfather re-adaptation within 20 years. It may be by the Muppets, but you'll see it.
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I remember reading an interview with Bluth or someone else involved with the production (possibly a writer?) that explained why it was put in the film, but I can't remember their reasons now. (I'm alot of help, huh!) I'm sure if you Google around enough, it's probably out there.
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Necklace is in the movie only to set up the end of the movie where they need a "miracle" to finish moving the house and save the kids. My recollection is that isn't at all the way the book ends, but the film was written this was for "dramatic" reasons, blah, blah, blah, and they put the "magic necklace" in there to resolve that. Bonus: it also plays nicely into the greedy Jenner character. And, as Jenner so wisely instructed the Hollywood remake fiends: You take what you can, when you can. (Then you've learned nothing!)
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Having being ten years old when I first read the book, or in my case having the book read to us by our teacher I was enthralled. I bought the book, and re-read it many times on my own. So when Secret came out I was excited. Then I saw it and I'm like what the hell is it with all this magic crap.
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i dont think the Enchanted animation was meant to make it look bad or anything. the movie was making fun of the "disney princess" concepts and since all those movies were hand drawn, it made perfect sense to have it be cel animation as opposed to CGI or something else.
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(which I'd disagree with) not the animation, which would be the number of frames. Love the Bluth style, except for the later incessant entries into Land Before Time.
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Jul 29, 2009 12:28:28 PM CDT
Bluth had fuck-all to do with the horrible Land Before Time sequ
by nasty in the pasty
It's sad how the genuinely good original film has been tainted by the 50 direct-to-video sequels made since then.
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FIX THAT SHIT, HARRY
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Jul 29, 2009 12:33:17 PM CDT
The "magic" amulet make little narrative sense...
by nasty in the pasty
...but that final sequence where Mrs. B uses it to harness her own inner strength ("Courage of the heart is very rare. The stone has a power...when it's there") to save her children from asphixiating under the mud is one of the most powerful, visually transcendant moments in ANY fantasy movie for me (put over the top by Goldsmith's superb choral music). Yes, it's a TOTAL deux ex machina, but who cares? If the movie ended like the book, we'd have a "dramatic" climax where the rats spend a couple hours moving the house while Mrs. B and her kids sit around a watch. I'll take the thrilling swordfight/magic ending any day of the week.
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ugh leave it alone already, the first movie actually stands up really well, what's next? The Shaggy Dog remake w/a wayne's brother? I ranted about Predator but I won't rant anymore, fucking stupid...!
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when I was 5 years old.
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I can see a Wikipedia entry for a Dragon's Lair movie to be produced - which is pretty neat. Not to mention the fact that everytime he goes to the toilet it seems he SHITS another Land Before Time, there are what, 30 of those now?
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Yeah, good lidea. That original one is too talky, needs more action. And the Sequel!?!?!?! HOLY FUCK, it doesn't have a happy ending at all, who the fuck would pay to see that today? I say remake the first one with some John Woo two-guns Michael Corleone shit. Then hit the second one up with a better ending, maybe Fredo and Michael can revisit that kiss and we can get some Brokeback Mountain action between em'. Hell, if it has gay themes, it doesn't even have to be a good movie, it'll win Oscars!!!! Re-releases can be cool and generate revenue for studios without whoring out the product and losing the integrity of the original, why isn't this done more?
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No intent to offend there, I thought Brokeback was a bad movie with no direction or vision, and thought Milk was just above-average. I would think even a gay man/woman would be offended that seemingly any studio movie that deals with homosexuality is rewarded with undeserved praise and the industry's greatest prize for the sole fact that id deals with gay themes. Now I'm ranting and I'm sure to offend someone with my explanation on how I didn't originally intend to offend.
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I don't know about brave. I'm just trying to be the guy who helps bring a little civility back to these boards. I remember once innocently asking if it was the real boborci posting on these talkbacks, just out of curiosity, and was called a fuckwad for it. It's ridiculous around here these days.
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It's going to happen with Muppets, I'm telling you now. Casting? sure:
Michael : Kermit Sonny : Gonzo (though we know it SHOULD be Animal) Fredo : Rizzo Tom: Fozzie Luca Brazzi : Dr. Bunsen Honeydew Kay : Piggy or Janice Don Corleone : Dr. Teeth or Piggy Mark my words. They did Wizard of Oz. This shit is coming eventually. -
sequels. They do ape his drawing style, though.
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Don Corleone would definitely be played by a human, a la Michael Caine as Scrooge in Muppet's Christmas Carol (a genius performance BTW). I'd go with a dignified British actor again like Michael Gambon, though irony demands the part to be played by Robert De Niro.
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Wasn't there a muppet with Abe Vigoda-like features. Man, I haven't seen Muppets in so long, but I seem to recall one looking like my favorite fishman.
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I know it's an awesome scene that should never be played for laughs but considering Abe Vigoda's fish-like features, tthey could have an actual fish play Tessio. The it would be HILARIOUS when he says to Tom Hagen, "Could you talk to Michael, ask him to let me off the hook for old times' sakes?" Ha Ha Ha! Man, I'm bored.
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Mike Myers in full-on Fat Bastard costume. "Leave the gun, grab the canoooooolis instead." This could be the remake that would get all studios to stop remaking shit. I say do it!
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...not gonna happen. Remember how people suddenly started putting down Charlie and the Chocolate Factory right before Burton's movie came out? People started whining that the old movie "wasn't faithful" to the book, even though I hadn't heard such complaints before until that point. Then the movie dropped.So how is a flaming Michael Jackson-esque Willy Wonka with daddy issues more accurate to the book again?
Why doesn't Hollywood "reboot" the stuff they fucked up instead? How about Howard the Duck or Popeye? -
The change fromFrisby to Brisby wasn't Frisbee the company's fault ( Whamo I think it is ) it was simply because of name recognition.... too many kids would only think of the toy... Bleuth changed it themselves.
Think about it... could you take a movie seriously if the main character's name was "Nerf McSuperSoaker"
I kid of course but the point is the same... the name became too much in pop culture to be taken seriously a tragic coincidence.
Happens all the time the other way around as well, when a movie or play or historic event taints a name... Jezabel, Jesus, Nimrod, Corleone, Madonna, Napoleon, Adolf, Colbert... all names you can't use without someone thinking of some other context. -
Robin Williams was awesome as Popeye. Shelley Duvall was born to play Olive Oil, I thought they captured the look and feel of the cartoon. Other than one too many musical numbers, I thought they did an amazing job.
Now if they wanna remake Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers, I would be interested in seeing that. -
Yeah, who needs another remake. Why remake LOTR from the Bakshi version?
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Popeye was awesome except, like the last poster said, too many musical numbers. But hey, Altman was coming off of Nashville so he had the music in him. Take out two or three songs and Popeye is an almost perfect representation of the cartoon.
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