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Will The Next STAR TREK Movie Be A Two-Parter?? So Implies Boborci (Vaguely)...

Merrick here...
In a brief exchange with IO9, Roberto Orci implies the next Abramsverse TREK film will either be a cliffhanger thingie, or at the very least contain a significant story element which crosses over two films. Exact quote HERE. A little abstract to be sure, but fun to think about nonetheless...

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  • July 25, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    FIRST!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I really hope so. It better end in a cliffhanger, too.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    haha almost first

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    sick...get er done JJ

  • July 25, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    What? Pirates of the Caribbean?

    by TheMarineBiologist

    Are we talking about the new Pirates movie?<p> Or is Abrams going down the exact same path as they are?

  • July 25, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    LOST?

    by ZAM1138

    Cool news and all, but, was no one at the LOST panel?!? Sorry for not keeping on the post subject, but COME ON!

  • July 25, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Roads? Where we're going, we dont need roads...

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Great Scott!

  • July 25, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    kind of like star trek 2....

    by Deak the Geek

    the story continued into star trek 3 and 4

  • July 25, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    ...OR MAYBE JUST SHOT BACK-TO-BACK?

    by Mullah Omar

    Like BACK TO THE FUTURE 2 & 3 or LOTR.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Sounds like...

    by wintersx

    .... a great idea!

  • July 25, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    why cant orci retire

    by animas

    if he hasn't made enough to retire from the last two then he is an idiot with a shitty agent and if he has made enough then wtf? He has admitted in past interviews, and obviously by the (lack of) quality, that he is only in it for the money.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    klingon war please

    by nechyv

    I really think abrams could do a starfleet vs klingon war well, its the one thing I'd trust him with, really.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    and IAN MCSHANE had better be the baddy

    by nechyv

  • July 25, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Maybe BIG LOB appears at the end of the end 2nd...

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Oh shit!! (credits)

  • July 25, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Fun to think about...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    if you're blind and deaf.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Never thought I'd see the day

    by CharyouTree

    when a Star Trek movie was better than a Terminator movie, man what a year. If Avatar's shit I'm going to kill myself.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Romulan AND Klingon war please

    by lockesbrokenleg

    But Earth shouldn't be in peril again. Have The Klingon planet be in danger this time.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    It worked well for ST2, 3 & 4...

    by Manos

    I've always considered them three parts of the same story.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Star Trek II never set out to start a three parter

    by lockesbrokenleg

    No one thought Nimoy would return to Trek seeing as how he was dead and all, but Nimoy decided to come back.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    BIG LOB with a fishbowl over his head floating in space...

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    He makes his move! <BR><BR> Star Trek was one of my favorite movies this yr. It wasnt even on the radar before it came out...except for me laughing at Kirk's myspace style headtilt on the poster. But when I went with friends to see it....wow, one of my favorite movies!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    MILK IT, ORCI! YOU FUCKING HACK!

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Gotta hand it to ya, Orci, way to finagle two more checks out of Gene Roddenberry's corpse. Maybe when you ass-rape it this time you can at least give the poor dead guy a reacharound, yeah? Let's see what gigantic plot holes you can hack up this time all while shredding more canon. Hey maybe Kirk can fall down an abandoned well and find KAHN there just y'know, waiting for him aimlessly. Or how about yet another Romulan ship that waits twenty years by a timeportal mouth instead of just leaving a guardship. Oh, those were just GENIUS!! (not)

  • July 25, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

    by pantera777

    ...YES!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Spock gets the babes.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Literally. Most of the girls I talk to dont like playboy Kirk, but they adore the new Spock! This is an opportunity to expand the audience...and what an interesting visual to see Star Trek opening night with all these trekkie geeks mixed in with babes there to see their man! :)

  • July 25, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    I second Ian McShane as the baddy

    by indyjonez100

    He's be great, get the man in the make up chair stat for Klingon costume, that would be kick ass!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Kimbo Slice as a Klingon...........

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    That's yet another ticket buying audience. Please make it happen!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Yay. More yuppified Trek, with visual

    by Dingbatty

    styling nicked from Firefly.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    itrek II: "Scotty..this ship needs to look MORE like an apple st

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • July 25, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Wait until AsimovLives hears about this!

    by Subtitles_Off

  • July 25, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    he doesnt say shit in that quote!!! Are you high??

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    thats not even vague Merrick..thats non fucking existant. Did you guys just post this shit to meet your JJ quota for the week? Not only do you just hyperlink to another story..you practically plagerized it..the only person taht implies it is the article from which YOU STOLE THE HEADLINE FROM is the person who wrote the article.."Think about what it means! Could the second movie end on a cliffhanger that will directly lead into the third?"...jesus christ man..

  • July 25, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    fine by me...

    by Six Demon Bag

  • July 25, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Subtitles_Off

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Grab a drink and some food, put your feet up and enjoy the fireworks!!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Aint it Some Random Bloggers Opinion News"

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • July 25, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Good looking Spock/Kirk/cast brings in the girls....

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Trekkies, they are delivering babes to you at the movie theater.<BR> Yet you are unappreciative??

  • July 25, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    GIVE US WIGGA KLINGONS W/GOLD TEETH!!

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Y'know...for kids!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Lol, Moore stole from Firefly?!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    LOL! NOW THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT! Seeing as how they used the same FX studio.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Still sucking

    by GeorgieBoy

    these guys off aren't you AICN? Jeez.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    I Can't Wait To See Some Klingon Testicles!!

    by Mace13

    Because decepticles were so hilarous in TF2. -Thats sarcasm btw Mr.Orci

  • July 25, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    INSTEAD OF ONE BAD MOVIE YOU GET TWO!!

    by HaterofCrap

    YAY!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Maybe it will take two movies to explain...

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    all of the plotholes of the first one.<p>If so, I expected three movies. There are quite a few.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Shoot back to back?

    by enderandrew

    This is the new formula. Make one film, see if it generates enough interest, and then suddenly talk trilogy. And if you are going that route, why not just shoot 2 and 3 back-to-back? Apparently it saves money not tearing down sets simply to rebuild them later. Fans don't have to wait as long between movies. A shared production means the sequels have a greater chance of maintaining a coherent arc, tone and direction. Why the heck not?

  • July 25, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Christopher Lee on Trek

    by FoolsRushIn

    It would be cool to see Christopher Lee play the villain in the next Star Trek movie.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I love unstatisfying fragments!

    by Spandau Belly

    They're so much better than complete films!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    I fully agree with what Asimovlives said...

    by OzzyManDiaz

    Dawsons Trek indeed

  • July 25, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Klingon Testicles part 2

    by Mace13

    I got it, I got it. While transporting Spock to a Klingon ship Scotty enters the wrong coordinates and Spock materializes right beneath a Klingon squatting down to take a dump.You get a nice big closeup with the Klingons ballsack in Spocks face. End the scene showing Scotty at his station with a smirk on his face mumbling something under his breath about spock being a pretentious snob and that outta knock him down a knotch or two. There. Anybody can write this stuff.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Palpatine to become Federation President?

    by kabong

  • July 25, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Shit.

    by KillDozer

  • July 25, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    by KillDozer

    I thought Lindelof was writing this one, not Orci and Kurtzman again.<p>Like my two part post? I wrote them back to back.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    JOHN TORTURRO FOR KLINGON GUY!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 25, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Great.

    by Fortunesfool

    Another Kurtzman and Orci shit-fest to not look forward to. I'm sure Abrams can shake a camera about in front of some pretty actors mouthing the dialogue and box office tills will ring a ding-ding. Meanwhile, anyone with intelligence will be climbing the walls to escape from the moronic travesty these people are turning cinema into.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Star Trek

    by enderandrew

    I'm not sure rewatching the film will be nearly as rewarding. I went in with low expectations and had a blast. Honestly, that is good enough for me.<p>I think expectations are going to be much higher. I just hope they go the route of TDK as opposed to Pirates 2 and 3, or Transformers 2. With Pirates and Transformers, they just added tons of new characters, made things more complicated, and thought ramping up the complexity was an improvement. In TDK, they simply continued the existing story on a logic arc established with the first one, but ramped up the emotional depth. It was a film that had substance.<p>In Star Trek, we establish that Spock and Kirk are going to be friends despite being at odds. What if the next film involves sacrificing Spock's dad for the greater good? He is one of the few remaining Vulcans, and a protector of the culture. But what if he dies? How does that impact their relationship? How will Uhura respond to Kirk as her captain when her boyfriend is fighting with Kirk?

  • July 25, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Fortunesfool

    by enderandrew

    You forgot to mock Abrams for his love of lens flares. Even Abrams knows to mock himself in that regard.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    AVATAR IS FUCKING MY EYES ON G4!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    HOLEE SHIT!!!

  • July 25, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    take your time with this one guys

    by Darth_BeerFart

    rmember when you jumped into writing another transformers movie so fast..we wound up with shit..take you time with the next startrek, we'll be mad we have to wait 3 maybe 4 years but in the end the world will thank you

  • July 25, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    I think this is going to be an emperor has no clothes thing...

    by I Hope You Die

    Once people see the sequel they'll realize the reboot was a horrendous piece of shit. The movie was so bad that I find it really disconcerting that there were people who liked it. It's like living in an episode of the Twilight Zone.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    The AP is reporting abrams wants Roger Moore to play Khan

    by Darth_BeerFart

    Can't say he'd be a fan choice, but moore is at least an actor and not an MTV underwear model we see in every othermovie out there<P>if Abrahm's like Moore for the part then i say fine by me

  • July 25, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    WILL THE NEXT TRANSFORMERS MOVIE BE A SHITFEST??

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    so implies bob orci, by saying it will be as good as the first 2.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    The last Trek film...

    by MajorFrontbum

    ..was the worst in the entire series. They should stop making Trek films that appeal to the demographic and start concentrating on writing good science fiction stories, not perpetuating the Heroes Journey myth and flashy CGI - it looked, sounded and read too much like a Star Wars film, and not enough like a Trek Film. It's true, they have finally run out of new ways to tell the oldest of stories, Star Trek X proves that. The new cast is shit, the director is shit and the writing is complete and utter shit, just like Transformers, shit.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Don't touch Khan

    by enderandrew

    Right now, this is before the original Khan episode. Kirk never had his kid. None of Star Trek 2 has happened yet. Why ruin any of it? I can't imagine that Khan will be utilized in a manner that will live up the hype, especially in a film where you have to give time to every major Trek character. Just trust me on this. Hint at Khan, but don't actually do him.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    animas

    by OzzyManDiaz

    He's not going to stop writing shitty shit ass cream films. He is in demand in Hollywood regardless of his obvious inability to write anything worth watching. Same thing happened with Joe Eszterhas. Eventually, people like this fade out with time. It will happen. Be patient young Jedi.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST

    MajorFrontbum

    by TheNewDirector

    Movies are a business. This Trek movie made more money than any other Trek movie. Their's a reason for it, they don't give a shit about the fans of the past. Which is why movies like Transformers and Terminator Salvation are gonna continue to be made, whether we bitch about it or not. Hopefully AVATAR restores my faith in cinema.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Fuck Paramount and their shitty movies.

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    We need more people sucking Bob Orci dick. MI 3, The Island, TF, Star Trek, and Tf2 all pure donkey ball shit fest. <P>Enjoy more of the same.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:56 p.m. CST

    They couldn't even handle one movie, forget two

    by vadakinX

    Star Trek may have been a fun and entertaining film but that was in spite of Orci and Kurtzman, not because of them. So I have no confidence whatsoever in their ability to hold a story for 2 films.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Wow, Asimov Lives sure has a lot of handles

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 25, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Ice Age 3 almost 700 million box office

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Must be as great as Transformers 2... right?

  • July 25, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    The first start trek sucked ass...

    by elwood_p_dud

    I'm still wondering just WTF all the creaming was about. It was boring, overwrought, full of plot holes, and the engine room was a fucking malt liquor plant. How easily impressed are Trekkie's these days?

  • July 25, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Trannyformers_Apologist

    by TheNewDirector

    Of course not! Haha. I think your confusing the issues here.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Plot revealed

    by tiggr009

    Kirk gets pitted against his DEADLIEST foes yet. A planet full of Amazonian type women who only communicate by LICKING and TWEAKING each others nipples. Occasionally they might touch each others NAUGHTIER bits, but I'll leave the finer details up to Abrams

  • July 25, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Well they already made A New Hope...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    I guess it's time for ESB...Schmucks...

  • July 25, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Harry Crapper dropped out this weekend

    by lockesbrokenleg

    beat by gerbils.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    If Lawrence of Arabia were released today

    by seppukudkurosawa

    It would be broken up into 4 parts to milk more moolah from the moneyed masses.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    "We make one movie- you pay twice!" will keep getting more commo

    by Flim Springfield

  • July 25, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Kal Penn has been cast as Khan

    by BoRock_A_Boomer

    Spock dies and comes back as Perez Hilton in part 2

  • July 25, 2009, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Orci where the fuck are you?

    by MELGIBSONS_DICKCHEESE

    Trannyformers 2 made bank so you don't have to come here anymore?

  • July 25, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Yeah, at first blush it seems silly to do a two-parter

    by YackBacker

    What is it about a story that it cannot be told within 2 hrs? I am skeptical of the cliffhanger approach in general. I'd rather have two distinct stories (more bang for the buck) than one story spread out over two movies.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Orci, you bastard

    by MELGIBSONS_DICKCHEESE

    Make sure to shove all the script pages for TF3 containing retarded humor up your ass, before giving them to Bay.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    MELGIBSONS_DICKCHEESE

    by OzzyManDiaz

    Aye! And Boborci, if your lurking, I must tell you this: Write all the retard garbage you want, I dont care...Just dont call yourself a writer. That title is reserved for those that have talent.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    I'd call bullshit

    by jimmy rabbitte

    but it seems everyone has beaten me to it.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Its reassuring

    by Fortunesfool

    That the majority of people now seem to have realised that Star Trek was moronic twaddle. Either that, or its the summer holidays and all the kids are out playing.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    I've said it before and I'll say it again...

    by gopher

    Screw remaking Wrath of khan, screw Harry Mudd - we need the next movie to focus on...the MIRROR UNIVERSE!!! Think about it! Evil Kirk, Spock with goatee...the possibilities are endless!

  • July 25, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

    by The_Ritty

  • July 25, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    My Summer Blockbuster Screenplay.

    by Fortunesfool

    Open on. Pretty cgi thing. It blows up. Blahblahblah, lame joke, blahblahblah, lame joke, blah blah, confusing,badly shot but noisy setpiece, blah blah, lame joke, blahblah, badly shot but noisy setpiece, blahblah, nonsensical reason for film to almost end, blahblah, noisy, badly shot and edited set piece that isn't as noisy as the first one because they used that one to hold our attention, blahblah, set up sequel, titles.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Actually on second thought - Goatee Spock!!!!!!

    by The_Ritty

    I love it!!!

  • July 25, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Star Trekwars

    by kwisatzhaderach

    was utter bullshit. Zero passion. Just a quick knockoff by Abrams for some dosh. Fuck all to do with Star Trek. Beam me up Scotty.

  • July 25, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Fortunesfool

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You forget the best part: "Lets jettison Kirk from the ship so he can crashland on a planet at the exact spot thats a 5 minute walk away from Leonard Nimoy who just happens to be hanging around in the very same cave Kirk stumbles into." <p> Total and utter bullshit.

  • July 25, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    No Khan Do!

    by ToMonicker

    I saw Star Trek twice for free... and although I had fun... I really wasn't inspired by the JJ' Trekverse, but that's okay, I mean I didn't like all the original episodes either. Is there a writer out there that can deliver some fresh into this without going to the recycling bin? Won't old school Spock be the target of kidnappers pretty quick since he's got all that future tech locked in his noggin, i.e. transwarp beaming, etc. ??? ;-)

  • July 25, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Kwis

    by Fortunesfool

    I hadn't forgotten it, but I have tried to erase it from memory.

  • July 25, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Who cares as long as its up to their Star Trek standard....

    by Gabba-UK

    and not up to the Transformers 2 standard.

  • July 25, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    BALE does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN starring Bale as Khan. Delivering 100% more wrath than Ricardo Montalban.<p> WHAT DON'T YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!

  • July 25, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Spock dies at the end!

    by photoboy

    He comes back in the next one!

  • July 25, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Why not ...

    by jae683

    It'll probably suck, just like the last one.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    OH GOD NO!

    by Maniaq

    don't let this be another Matrix debacle! <p> YOU DON'T NEED TO STRETCH IT INTO TWO FILMS!

  • July 25, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    about ORCI

    by slkboxrman

    has everyone forgot that ORCI is almost constantly vague about everything he's working on...its really nothing new.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    You know damn well they will bring back Khan

    by IndyCollector

    I'm willing to bet money that Space Seed gets remade as a film.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    I am going to Comic-Con next year....

    by conspiracy

    Just so I can Fucking introduce myself to Bob..and publicly Fist Fuck him right there in Hall H. Thats right Bob...I'm on the fucking docket next year. Yes..I said Trek was entertaining..but your script still tongue fucked a prolapsed anus. Really...what was there that was entertaining had nothing to do with YOU, but rather a cast that had just enough chops to pull it off, and though I hate to admit it, JJ directed it fairly well (although he needs to learn how to shoot a space battle).</p><p>Nope..next year Conspiracy is going to Comic-Con just to Fuck with this prick Orci...ask him how it feels to be paid so well for doing such a poor job, and see if i can detect the tube that runs from his pursed lips to JJs erects phallus.</p><p>Bob...your writing bites...and it is time people outside this talkback were directed to this obvious fact.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Wow, DAWSON'S TREK love

    by Subtitles_Off

    didn't even survive the summer. That might be a new record.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    What do you mean it didn't survive the summer?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It is STILL PLAYING at most theaters. Where's Wolverine? Oh, wait, that bombed.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    slkboxrman..Orci is vague because he really doesn't know..

    by conspiracy

    how the fuck he lucked into these jobs. He has no clue where the story is going, he has no grand vision...instead i picture Orci sweating late at night...terrified about the position he talked himself into...high on coke, Oxycotin and whiskey...talking to himself, afraid these people who hired him will finally realize what he himself has known all along...he doesn't know what the FUCK he is doing. He is like a kid who steals an airplane and knows just enough to get it airborne, but now how to land......NOW WHAT YA GONNA DO YA PRICK?

  • July 25, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    If you people are such die hard fans of Trek

    by lockesbrokenleg

    where the fuck where you when Nemesis came out?

  • July 25, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST

    So they're going to rip off ST 2 & 3.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Fucking Hacks!

  • July 25, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Hey Orci.. Tell Abrams MORE LENS GLARE.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Let's see his talents.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Bad Move!

    by Norm3

    What if it sux. Then we won't care about #3. Keep them seperate!

  • July 25, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    They already did a Romulan/Klingon war...

    by lutz

    It was called Star Trek Deep Space Nine. One of the problems with Star Trek was that they already explored to the ass end of the galaxy and had nowhere else to go. They may have reset the timeline but they are still saddled with the same universe - they just don't have to worry about continuity. If they do a Romulan Klingon war over two movies it won't be any more satisfying to fans than what they did over five seasons of Deep Space Nine.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg: Nemesis sucks

    by Nem_Wan

    No one hates Nemesis more than die hard fans of Trek, because no one else saw it. As for Star Trek Two-elve, I hope they try something original, challenging, and not at all Khan-like, good Lord we've had enough remakes and do-overs.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Nemesis was ass and I am ashamed I dragged my

    by lockesbrokenleg

    friend to it. But, dammit, the new Star Trek was fucking awesome.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Hey cool, maybe they'll tell a good story this time

    by jimmy_009

    I'm not holding my breath.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Scriptgirl told us all about this last week.

    by brock landers baby

  • Die Abrams die! What he's doing is worse than what happened to Star Wars with Ep 1&2.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Kurt Russell already did it.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 25, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    by dioxholster

    i hate two parters except for empire strikes back and back to the future.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    They WILL find a way to include Shatner

    by estacado1

    this time.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Um, LOTR was all cliffhangers

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Those did reasonably well.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    HERE ORCI, I'LL FUCKING WRITE IT FOR YOU....

    by CarlThorMark1978

    There's a villain who has a super weapon. The crew yells at each other which shows CONFLICT, thus creating DRAMA. Kirks Mom and Spocks Dad hook up which leads to all sorts of mirth and hilarity. The villain then KILLS THE FUCK out of Kirks Mom and Spocks Dad. Now Kirk and Spock are out for REVENGE!!! They defeat the villain by PRESSING SOME FUCKING BUTTONS REALLY FUCKING HARD!!! The movie ends with Kirk and Spock in both ends of Uhura while Sulu is licking Chekhov's ASSHOLE!!! The End?!?!

  • July 25, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST

    here's an idea

    by Darth_BeerFart

    Why not make it into a series, something tells me star trek would play better as a weekly TV show as opposed to a movie every 2 years.<P>just a thought though, maybe a franchise like this just isn't meant for TV?

  • July 25, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    WHY NOT MAKE IT AN AUDIO DRAMA?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Who needs all those sets and shit?

  • July 25, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    You Star Trek Haters Repeat Yourselves

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Almost as much as Rick Berman era Trek repeated itself...

  • July 25, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Star Trek 2: The Empire Strikes Back!

    by theycallmemrtibbs

  • July 25, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives is So Clumsy with English

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    He's almost as bad as the people who review things for AICN...

  • July 25, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    How about Kang, Koloth, or Korr

    by CapnJake

    I said this on one of the trek websites as well, but iam telling you doing kahn is a bad move on their part, a big part of why kahn is so Iconic is because of TWOK, and big part of why TWOK works, is the passage of time that has occured from space seed to TWOK and how both characters have changed. Instead what they should do is think about one of the classic Klingon Advisarys such as Kor, Kland,or Koloth. Orci and Kurtzman if you read this please please think twice about doing Kahn, give us instead one of the Klingons. i mean i can just see it now if they were to put Kahn in and have spock die, suddenly the next movie you have spock prime stepping up and offering his Katra so that young spock can live, please dont do this.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Re:Star Trek 2: The Empire Strikes Back!

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    This time the entire crew gets they're asses kicked and they have to regroup for the third one. <p> Big Lob is rumored to sit in the Captain's chair when Kirk is frozen in carbonite!

  • July 25, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    LENS FLARE 2 THE SEARCH FOR MORE LENS FLARE

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • July 25, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    This is better than Star Trek

    by dioxholster

    http://tinyurl.com/noy8ol <p> ---- although star trek is pretty good

  • July 25, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives will split his moaning into 2 parts..

    by quantize

    to adjust...like the sad little fucking humorless bitch he is.

  • July 25, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    The "one script, two sequels" thing ALWAYS turns out badly

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Matrix, Pirates Of The Caribbean...just make ONE SEQUEL AT A FUCKING TIME.

  • July 25, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Star Trek is nothing compared to this

    by dioxholster

    http://tinyurl.com/noy8ol <p> star trek is okay though

  • July 25, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Nasty In The Pasty is right

    by dioxholster

    two sequels will bring the end to the new star trek as it will do to harry potter

  • July 25, 2009, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Khan Is Kirk's Father

    by christian66

  • July 25, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    please don't say khan

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    for the love of shit can NO one create any new ideas anymore? I mean in the 60s show they had new characters popping up each episode like nothing. even wrath of khan was from an episode. at the very least just use a different episode to make a movie out of. I noinate trouble with tribbles. Star Trek 11: Clusterfuck of Tribbles

  • July 25, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Star Trek : We are ripping off Space Seed this time.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Seth Rogan as Khan.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    of course it'll be split in 2 movies

    by Jesiah

    One half will be the NEW 90210 in space, the other will be whatever teen melodrama is hot. Seriously I haven't even seen the first one, but im going to since it's $3.25 at the Redondo Beach 3 now.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    but yeah, splitting one sequel in 2 has

    by Jesiah

    .....a very bad record. Back to the future, Matrix, it's 0-2 as far as I'm concerned.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    If new Trek looks like iMac, then old Trek looks like Atari.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    2600, noless.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    What do I mean it didn't survive the summer?

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'll assume you've read this Talkback thread, so you know exactly what I mean. Nothing but fawning over this film three months ago. Now, in record time, the vitriol flows at the near mention of it. The hype didn't last for the whole summer.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    I knew everyone would be on this TB

    by D.Vader

    PS: In the next film, Spock and Uhura break up. Turns out Scotty is a massive racist and working with him becomes unbearable. They spend the next two movies trying to rehabilitate him.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Subtitles_Off

    by lockesbrokenleg

    In the real world people liked it. But your small mind can't grasp that concept.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    http://tinyurl.com/noy8ol

    by dioxholster

    http://tinyurl.com/noy8ol

  • July 25, 2009, 11:17 p.m. CST

    TREK still has showings in houston

    by Six Demon Bag

    cant teally say the same about wolverine and T4..so people are still seeing it...

  • July 25, 2009, 11:21 p.m. CST

    TREK is #3 of the summer behind Up and Transformers

    by Six Demon Bag

    lets see if transformers can go 2 months thru weeks and weeks of competition the way UP and TREK did.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:21 p.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by slkboxrman

    lol, omg if i was drinking my coffee when i read that, i would hav spit it all over the screen.....i can imagine him high on coke and oxy and whiskey.....he has lucked into all of it, i hope someday to be as lucky as him

  • July 25, 2009, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Why is that "fun to think about"?!

    by BurnHollywood

    You guys like paying for half a fucking film?<p> Could Orci/Kurtzman be bigger douches? Now they can't even finish a fucking story in 2 hours.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Oh, and I guess the pussy mysogynists won...

    by BurnHollywood

    No Script Girl again.<p> "Waaaah! I hate girls! Women scare me! She's not 100% perfect, which is what a pimply, fat-ass, computer-humping loser like me deserv-v-v-v-v-es!"

  • July 25, 2009, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by BurnHollywood

    Who gives a fuck what Texans--let alone Houstons--do?

  • July 25, 2009, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Oh, I'm like a genius. Check this idea: trilogy.

    by kabong

    OMG <P> Instead of splitting the movie (if that' what JarJar makes) into two parts . . . SPLIT IT INTO THREE PARTS. <P> Instead of making fools pay twice, make them pay thrice (that means three times, in case you're not a genius like me and JarJar). <P> Somebody tell Bob Orci to stretch the stupid script to 315 pages.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST

    diox

    by DrMorbius

    They had a "Stargate" at Comic Con that you could stand in front of, and have someone take your picture, looking as if you had just passed through the gate. Very realistic looking.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Merrick, your paraphasing captured...

    by darthSaul666

    The cryptic nature of the news item perfectly.... But still to early to know what's going on. Need PRESS RELEASE and trailer...

  • July 26, 2009, midnight CST

    Just don't film them at the same time...

    by Heckles

    Back to the Future, Matrix, Pirates sequels all failed when filmed back-to-back. Maybe not a failure in the box office, but a failure in content. Fuck, nevermind. I said profit. Let quality be damned.

  • July 26, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    First news I heard that Back to the Future 2 and 3 failed...

    by D.Vader

  • July 26, 2009, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Why wouldn't old Spock...

    by Kirbdaddy

    just tell the Federation about all the fucked up shit the Enterprise discovered during his timeline. He will be able to tip them off about the Tholian Web, the Doomsday Machine, Khan, Harry Mudd, Tribbles, V'ger, the Genesis Device,that thing that wants to talk to whales, and the Borg. The only thing the new crew may have to repeat is going back to the 20th century to get some humpback whales. With old Spock's knowledge, the federation will probably seek out the Botany Bay and immediately arrest its crew (or blow it up). Personally, I would expect the Borg to make their presence known sooner in the Alpha Quadrant since the Narada was enhanced with Borg tech and pique their interest. I really find it hard to believe that old Spock would hold back all of this prime intel.

  • July 26, 2009, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Also...

    by Kirbdaddy

    Old Spock can tip off his half-brother about all that crap from Star Trek V and avoid that abomination from occurring.

  • July 26, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST

    KirbDaddy, hasn't tv and movies taught you by now...

    by D.Vader

    That things are supposed to happen for a reason? Even all the bad stuff? It strengthens those that survive and live through it? I think even Spock would find it illogical to "warn" everyone of future peril, especially in a timeline that's already SEVERELY altered.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:09 a.m. CST

    D.Vader...

    by Kirbdaddy

    It would be illogical if he did not do everything in his power to protect the Federation and give Starfleet every advantage in protecting the remnants of the Vulcan race. He's not going to hold back just so Kirk and Spock can have zany adventures that help bring them closer together. The needs of the many (the Federation) outweigh the needs of the few (Kirk and Spock). The events of the new timeline, I believe, will change the scope and purpose of the Enterprise's mission anyway.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST

    lockes, what's it like there in the real world

    by Subtitles_Off

    grasping your small dick?

  • July 26, 2009, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Did someone mention Pirates of the Caribbean?

    by RockMSockM

    Someone had the guts to mention that trash heap of a trilogy in the same breath as Star Trek? I'd rather watch a 24-hour marathon of Star Trek 5 than 20 minutes of "at worlds end."

  • July 26, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Yes!!!

    by Harold-Sherbort

    Because the first one was good!!

  • July 26, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST

    I AM KIROK

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    I finally saw that episode and now understand where the popculture references have come from.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Go fuck yourselves

    by joshuavance1701

    and shove Assatar up your taints cunts. <p> Star Trek kicked the shit out of the summer, blew away expectations, reinvigorated a dead franchise unequivocally, and had people returning for multiple screenings. Go fuck yourselves. <p> Star Trek is the kind of film that would have fit right in during the 80's mega blockbusters you cunts only READ about, but missed in theaters. Star Trek is a return to old school cinematic fun with a HEART that honored and respected the source material, now you three cynical fuckheads go pout in the corner.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:38 a.m. CST

    and actually

    by joshuavance1701

    Star Trek is the best God damn movie of the year. Fuck Avatar. Star Trek destroyed Watchmen, Wolverine, Terminator, Transformers, will destroy GI Joe, and Avatar. Bow before it, accept it. If you have an issue, just be sure to go fuck yourself.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    PEOPLE LIKED UP?!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Shove it up your ass PIXAR. You're gonna give is the same exact shit next summer.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Kung Fu Panda was better than UP

    by MELGIBSONS_DICKCHEESE

    Fact.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Up and Star Trek were great.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    There will be no CGI movie better than up this yr.<BR><BR> There will be no "summer style blockbuster" better than Star Trek this yr.<BR><BR> (GI Joe has a chance, but without BIG LOB....I dunnnoooo...)

  • July 26, 2009, 4:10 a.m. CST

    joshuavance1701

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You hould really see The hurt Locker pronto, see what good filmmaking is actually about.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Sorry Trekies...

    by Zeotron

    but you'd have to be heavily medicated to not know that Avatar is going to wipe it's ass with Star Trek. When that motherfucker hits theaters and straight gorilla fucks your eyeballs into another dimension is when Star Trek's time is up. MUuuhhaaaahhhaaahhhhaaaa!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:43 a.m. CST

    All you whinos are so pathetic.

    by Delagoya

    Bunch of spoiled, negative assholes. Loved the new movie, love mostly everything Star Trek related, and only slightly dislike a few. Never hated. Live long, and stop bitching.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST

    But Zeotron.....

    by Delagoya

    Gorillas have really tiny penises.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:09 a.m. CST

    I liked the reboot...

    by KnightEternal

    and with full geek voice on, hope they go the route of Federation-Klingon war etc...thats all i have to say about that....shrimp sandwich? Shrimp & potato? Stir Fry shrimp...anyone?

  • July 26, 2009, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Yes, THEY ass-raped Star Trek

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    It wasn't increasingly poor films BEFORE this. Christ, you fucks... you bash Nemesis, Enterprise AND Star Trek 2.0, three different films. WHAT DO YOU CRETINS WANT?

  • July 26, 2009, 6:44 a.m. CST

    It's funny, but...

    by BiggusDickus

    ...even though I only saw it two months ago, I can't remember a single fucking thing about 'Star Trek'.<p>By contrast, I can sit here and recall huge swathes of 'Wrath of Khan' which I've not seen for over a decade.<p>Illogical, Captain...

  • July 26, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST

    I liked Abrams' STAR TREK.

    by Orbots Commander

    Yes, it had problems, i.e. a weak-ass screenplay, but I think that, unlike Bay, Abrams was bright enough to realize this and made the movie work, and work well, by focusing on the character moments and interactions. A big part why it was a blast was watching Pine's Kirk go head to head with Spock and getting to know Urban's McCoy, whose performance was a pleasant surprise. I didn't think Urban had that in him. <p> Next time out, Abrams won't have the excuse of dealing with a writer's-strike-weak screenplay and I'll be less forgiving. Maybe he can get Lindelof from LOST to do a draft, as I still love the writing on that show.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST

    I've Seen Every Major Summer Blockbuster

    by Crow3711

    (except Transformer 2, because Bay won't get another dime from me ever) but I can honestly say Trek was by far the highest quality and most enjoyable big summer movie this year. Sure, there wasn't a lot of great competition, and the film itself wasn't incredibly GREAT greatness, but it still was the most fun I had at the cinema summer 2009, and that counts for something. It was good fun.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Mace13 - Klingon testicles?

    by SlackAttack

    Why not visit HotKlingonBallaction.com

  • July 26, 2009, 8:20 a.m. CST

    I suport the notion of Abramsverse

    by AsimovLives

    Abramsverse is a very adquate way to call what Jar Jar Abrams did in his latest piece of shit movie. He created a completly retard and stupid and moronic and shit universe where his bad copy of Star Wars exists (no, it's not a typo, i deliberatly wrote Star Wars).<br><br>Jar Jar Abrams's fuck up retard universe he created for his braindead stupid ass movie i an universe of it's own, adn it should never be mistake for the great Gene Roddenberry creation that was Star Trek.<br><br>So, i fully approve the use of the notion of Abramsverse. Which could also be shortened to Shitverse.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Orbots Commander

    by AsimovLives

    What was the thing you found so great about Jar Jar Abrams' Dawson's Trek abramsverse? The general stupidty? The retardness? How stupidely it was build up? The crass moronic inconsistencies? The obnoxios teen fucks that populated it? The lame ass inept adults who populated them? The crass product placement commercialism? The magic bullshit that doesn't even pretend to be mistaken as advanced science? The black holes who can't decide if they are objects of destruction or portals for time travel? That everything in this universe only exists to the whims of the scrrenwroters, and to be bended at will whenever they found themselves at a narrative dead end?<br><br>There's more but i'll jsut stick to this for a short while. but it's good that you found those stuff to be a mater of liking. Me, i found them to be reasons for my disliking. I guess we go by different beats.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    If many of you are going that route...

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    than I guess that Transformers is the better movie. It is beating the shit out of ST in terms of money.<p>Whoops. Sorry. I meant the remake of Star Wars.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    I didn't think it was THAT great...

    by Orbots Commander

    ...just that I enjoyed it and it was good. I'm not offended by its supposed crappiness or something. <p> What I specifically liked were the character moments. I understand AsimovLives, that it wasn't your cup of tea, and that's cool. One of my buddies that saw it with our group of friends didn't think too much of it either. <p> The tense opening scene with the sacrifice and heroism of George Kirk pretty much won me over for the rest of the movie though. <p> Look, there was going to be a 'new' Star Trek, with different younger actors at some point. A property like this was never going to lie fallow for that long. I'm sure Abrams and crew knew that the guys who liked Shatner and Nimoy were never really going to be with them with the new version.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    asimov--here we go again...

    by Six Demon Bag

    its all in good fun chatting with ya..but what inconsistencies are you referring to? those black holes that are time portals were "man made black holes". a little more info for ya--<P><P>After the initial red matter detonation, an implosion ensues which creates the black hole. A black hole is essentially a point where extreme gravitational forces converge. These forces are so strong that not even light can escape (hence the name 'black hole'). Normal space-time is distorted, which, in this new Star Trek, creates a 'tunnel' through space and time. When a ship enters a black hole from outside, it enters the tunnel, comes out of the other end, and will not be damaged. At least, this is how it works in the new Star Trek universe!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Fuck Star Trek, Transformers and Terminator........

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    It was all the same run of the mill bullshit packaged in a different wrapper. The only thing that was interesting about JJ's Star Trek was that he tinkered with the main characters (Who were all awesome.) especially Spock having Jungle Fever, (I did not see that coming.) Other than that the story was rather weak. <P> The most entertaining , bug-nuts, insane shit I saw this year was Crank 2. Hate on the Strath all you want but that movie had balls bigger than Devestator's. <p> It was funny, action packed, ridiculous and had the pacing of Grand Theft Auto oh and Mike Patton did the soundtrack. <p> Hopefully the movies coming out in the next few months til' the end of the year will change my opinion (My money's on Avatar) But as of now Crank 2 rules.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    In the fucking Jar Jar Abrams' Dawson's Trek piece of shit movie, the black holes act depending on what the wrioters what them to do, and not in any consistent manner. The black holes there either swallow up entire plaentys of they allow spaceships to travel through time, depending of what the filmmakers wanted. The same black holes, when it's convinient, destroys Nero's ship, instead of, say send it to the past or to the future. Because it was convinient to the story.<br><br>The truth of the matter is, black holes in the Abramsverse only act depending of ewhat is expedient to the plot, instead of hainv their own rality to themselves and be consistent to that. And this, you cna bet it fits in with a very good definition of INCONSISTENCY.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    There Will Be Klingons

    by AsimovLives

    With TESTICLES!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Me Asimov Lives! Me am ANGRY!

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Me am obnoxios to scrrenwroters!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Crank 2 is Citizen Kane compared to Dawson's Trek

    by AsimovLives

    Crank 2: High Voltage is Citizen Kane compared to Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek piece of shit movie. Deranged and bugnuts as Crank 2 was,a t least it did delivered crazy entertaiment. And it did it's way, and didn't appologised for being fo freaky an fucked up. It's the kind of movie that either you like it or fuck off. And i respect that attitude.<br><br>Jar Jar Abrams' Dawson's Trek piece of shit bullshit movie worried to kiss retard teens' ass to even try to be a movie in the first place.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    How does the cum of Jar Jar Abrams taste like?

  • July 26, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Or is your speciality ass licking?

  • July 26, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Typical Trek-lover post:

    by kwisatzhaderach

    'The screenplay was really weak but I loved all the fx and pretty colours'.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Asimov Lives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Like Red Matter.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Klingons In Da Hood

    by AsimovLives

    I can guess right now how Bob The Orci will vision the Klingons in the Abramsverse.<br><br>Since all the federation people act like spoiled brats petulant rich teens, the Klingons will be nigga gangsta hoodies from the poor aside of the twon... i mean, the galazy.<br><br>The abramsverse klingons will now feature many cliched things and attitudes from bad movies about hoodies gangstas, liek gold necklances, and lots of jewelry, and goldtooth. The interior of the Birds of Preys starships will look like the interior of an oversized badly constructed Chevolet SUV, and half it's space will be filled by gigantic bom boxes. The klingons will handle their weapons sidewise, for kewlness.<br><br>Klingons in da hood, yo!!!!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    You mean it tasted like bullshit? Figures!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Speaking of Advanced Science

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    AsimovLives might look into this invention known as spellcheck.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You're on a roll today buddy.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    STEVEN SEGAL TO PLAY ALL KLINGONS

    by AsimovLives

    OMG that would be so kewlz LOLZ!!!!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Comandante kwisatzhaderach

    by AsimovLives

    This stuff writes itself.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Where there any movies you LIKED

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    this year AsimovLives? Or any year? What are some of your favorites? I have trouble trying to figure out what you enjoy.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Thanks for the advice. And i'd like to call your attention to such a thing as GOOD CINEMA. You havnep't found it yet, but you should try that out, it's awesome! You will thank me later.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Haha, that's a valid point!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    You mean, the blockbusters, isnt that it? What you are really asking is what was the blockbusters i liked watching this year. And the answer is: ONLY ONE. The ionly one blockbusters which an adult can watch it and doesn't feel his inteligence insulted. That blockbuster is called HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE.<br><br>All other blockbusters relased this year are shit. Not seen Public Enemies yet, though.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Kwisatzhaderach.......

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    You are a pussy..... <p> You took what I said out of context to be a wise ass. That's not what I said... <p> I said the story was weak however the character's were interesting....I didn't say shit about the lens flares. <p> I can respect but not necessarily agree with Six Demon Bag about half the shit that shoots backwards out of his mouth but at least he's man enough to address you by name.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    asimov--explanation

    by Six Demon Bag

    The difference is that the first black hole was created far away from any ship. After the initial red matter detonation, an implosion ensues which creates the black hole. A black hole is essentially a point where extreme gravitational forces converge. These forces are so strong that not even light can escape (hence the name 'black hole'). Normal space-time is distorted, which, in this new Star Trek, creates a 'tunnel' through space and time. When a ship enters a black hole from outside, it enters the tunnel, comes out of the other end, and will not be damaged. At least, this is how it works in the new Star Trek universe! The second red matter detonation occurs within the Narada, because Spock's ship had first penetrated the hull. The black hole is consequently created inside the Narada, causing it to be subject to the same devastating gravitational forces as was the planet Vulcan. So the Narada is actually imploding the second time, giving the crew members little chance of survival. When Nero destroys Vulcan, he triggers the red matter within the planets core. Even if a wormhole is created each time the red matter is used, neither the crew of the Narada nor inhabitants of the planet Vulcan would survive, as both the vessel and the planet would be turned inside out in the process.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Comandante kwisatzhaderach

    by AsimovLives

    You should be owing this talkback, man. It are the Grand Daddy of all things anti-Dawson's Trek. I'm but your humble padwan.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Give me some examples of GOOD CINEMA

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Seriously. I feel like you and I haven't agreed on anything so far and I'm interested in finding out what movies you like as a basis for comparison.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    It's been a terrible year for movies

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The only quality offerings i've seen are The Hurt Locker and Public Enemies.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    got my KHAN score last night...

    by Six Demon Bag

    great tunes..mmm-hmm.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I don't mean Blockbusters.

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Just name some movies that you like. I'm genuinely interested. They can be recent or 70 years old. Just give some examples of things you enjoyed watching.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Apologies. I was skimming the talkback and got that general impression. Didn't mean to pick on you personally.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by AsimovLives

    The characters of Dawson's Trek were interesting? Which one?<br>The Emo Spock With Mommy Issues Worst The norman Bates?<br>The Kirk that is the galaxy punching bag that everybody and his grandmother gets a swing at, and goes by the whole movie thanks to neopotism and blind luck?<br>Bones whose only function is to regurgitates phrases from the TOS?<br>Chekov whose function is be funny a bad accent?<br>Sulu's non-existent pesonality?<br>Uhura the teen princess who pouts because she was not chosen for the cool kids spaceship?<br>Capt. Plot Convinience Pike?<br>Nero the Lame Villain?<br>Geriatric Spock who lost all abilities to make calculus adn whose only fuction is to be convinient to Kirk?<br><br>I'm really at a loss to understand where there was those marvelous characters to be found in Dawson's Trek. If you meant to say "the actors are good", i don't disagree. they are a bunch of good actors. But their characters are shit. Worst bunch of petulant irritating teens i have ever seen outside of a bad teen soap opera.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    BIG LOB!!

    by Semen Stains

    hahahah is he in the new Gi Joe movie.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Fuck yeah! Two pieces of shit for the price of one!

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Can't wait! Perhaps Spock will coincidentally run into Khan on a planet in the middle of nowhere this time! Maybe it's Bones' turn to have a Buster Keaton moment swirling around a bunch of tubes for five minutes!<p>Yeah, Bob Orci! You know that the fans want you're gonna give it to them! Force that steaming pile of shit into peoples' eyeballs and lets pray again that JJ can somehow make this turd slightly workable!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Don't forget that Kirk was eating an apple in Wrath of Khan when he told everyone about he cheated death on the Kobayashi Maru simulation. So what do Kurtzmanorci give Krik when he is actually doing the simulation as a young man? <p> Yes, you've guessed it. An apple. <p> Moronic fanwank.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    The movie i most enjoyed watching in the theaters this year was Appaloosa.<br><br>The movie with the strongest emotional impact was Martyrs.<br><br>I haven't seen a great movie yet this year. I trust Moon might be it.<br><br>And that's it. This year has been a complete misery for movies. I don't recall in my whole life a worst year then this one.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Shit, I haven't even seen Appaloosa yet. And i'm a huge Westerns and Ed Harris fan.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    asimov--

    by Six Demon Bag

    you HAVE to admit that urban was excellent as BONES. gimme that at least and we can be friends again.<P>kirk's ascent up the ranks was pretty cool..could it happen in the field--you betcha! if young skywalker can do it, why not?

  • July 26, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Comandante kwisatzhaderach

    by AsimovLives

    You know what irritated me the most about the Kobyashi Maru's scene in Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek piece of shit movie? That Kirk might as well writen on his forehead that he was cheatting. That shit couldn't had been more obvious. The guy wasn't even disguising! What he fuck is that, man? wiooudn't you think that if you were to do such a cheat, you would try to be, like, very unconspicious? you wouldtry at least to pretend you are having soem trouble passign the impossible test? Like, say, even rpetending you got this cose to lose and then pull an unexpected turn-arround and win? Yiu know, make the victory look at least plausible? And thus, when Spock finally figures out it was a cheat, it would prove how ssmart Spock is that he could see through Kirk's deception? That way, Kirk would look smart because he smart enough to disguise his deception, and spock would look smart becasue he could see through it. As it is in the mvoie, only a retard would not know right from the get go that Kirk was into soemthign not good. Of cours,e becasue in the Abramsverse EVERYBODY IS RETARD, nobody is unto him right away!<br><br>The apple stuff was also lame. The implication is that, everytime Kirk remembers the Kobyashi Maru cheat incident, he's always eating a green apple?<br><br>The fucking movie is fucking retard, man!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    kwis--

    by Six Demon Bag

    i didnt even GET the apple unitl after re-watching KHAN..i noted that in a TB and someone said it was because kirk ws hungry..he said he WAS starving..and that it was a metaphor for i dunno...<P>i thought in TREK it was smart ass thing to do..something up Kirks alley. man i want a orion slave girl..

  • July 26, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Exactly. Retard is the key word. It's a movie that will suffer hugely when the fans rewatch it over and over on DVD as al the flaws reveal themselves.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I can go with you on that one, Urban was the only entertaining thing in the movie to me.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    asimov--it was a red apple, no?

    by Six Demon Bag

    shit i cant remember either.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    kirks smugness overpowered his cunning

    by Six Demon Bag

    i think with maru, he was just so smug and so new...that he HAD to pretty much slap them down..yes it was SO obvious that he was cheating...but maybe he wanted to get caught after attempting it so many times and knowing there really is no way to beat it..this way--he just rubbed their noses in it..albeit not very subtle manner.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Hey Bro, <p> I spent 40 bucks on that movie...... I had to enjoy something. <p> I got a kick out of the crew. Sulu, Chekov and Scottie did feel like impersonations. I did go into this thing expecting Chris Pine to suck ass but I enjoyed his performance, I thought he did a decent job channeling God er I mean Shatner. <p> Zachary Quinto was good as Spock, I enjoyed the scenes he had, especially when he and Pine were on screen together and Zoe was a sexy Uhura. Karl Urban felt (To me) very natural in the role of Bones, his bitterness and disdain for the job was eerily similiar to DeForest Kelley and was fun to watch. <p> Bana's Nero looked cool as hell but he was just as big as a let down as Darth Maul. <p> The movie had some cool things going for it, I can't front, The story was just blah. <p> That seems to be the norm for Star Trek movies after four, The ones after that one sounded good on paper and previews but were highly dissapointing. <p> kwisatzhaderach, apology accepted, peace and chicken grease bro.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Nice one, i'd never want to fall out with someone with such a cool username. <p> I enjoyed Star Trek VI, thought it was of a pretty high standard, though it felt a little bit cheap.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    I think the reaction to STAR TREK

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    is similar to the reaction to the Star Wars prequels. Each of us has a 10 or 20 or even 30 year emotional connection to the franchise that blinds us to the flaws in the old stuff and the worthy stuff in the new.<br /><br />Jar Jar Binks and Annakin saying "Yippee!" didn't make Star Wars hokey. It was ALWAYS hokey. It was always silly fun for kids. The adults we are now forget that.<br /><br />And we have an emotional connection to Shatner and Nimoy and the rest that blinds us to the flaws in the original series and movies.<br /><br /> I've never said Abrams movie was Perfect. But come on, was it really worse than most of Season 3 of the original show? Was it really any sillier than Star Trek: The Final Frontier? REALLY? <br /><br />Kirk isn't trying to hide the fact that he cheated because he's already failed their no-win scenario 2 or 3 times at that point. It's the ONLY thing at Starfleet he hasn't EXCELLED at. He's giving them the finger. He's sitting there eating an apple saying Fuck You and Your Bullshit Test. There's ALWAYS a way to win. If you can't see Shatner having the EXACT SAME ATTITUDE then I don't know what Trek you've been watching.<br /><br />And I loved Apaloosa too. And Public Enemies. Haven't seen Moon yet. Nice to know we can agree on something. ;^)

  • July 26, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Shatner's Kirk never lost

    by toadkillerdog

    A fight that is. That was part of the Kirk mystique. He would fight fuck and beat anyone and everyone.<p> In the pantheon of screen fighters, only James West and James Bond and James Kirk never lost. <p> Something about the name James. <p> JJ's Kirk was just Mr. Worf redux. Always getting his ass kicked.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    SOMEDAY

    by Alex Childress

    ...someone will make a film for geeks that the geeks don't summarily shit on, don't insult its crew, its performers, its writers, and one where they won't nitpick the set designers if a door in the background of the big fight sequence is ajar. I have a dream of a day when geeks unite not to hate, but to love good entertainment. I may not get there with you

  • July 26, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Kirk was and always will be a Cowboy,..

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    That's what make his character the shit, He doesn't give a fuck. He admitted this in Star Trek 4 I think? Could've been five can't remember. <p> It was a scene at the beginning of the movie. Kirk is seen climbing a mountain using his "BARE FUKING HANDS!", no rope, equipment nothing but balls and male testosterone baby. <p> Spock swoops up to where Kirk is perched with some super cool ass jet boots and startles him. Kirk falls what should be to his death but he is saved last minute by Spock. <p> Later at the camp fire Bones discusses Jim's arrogance and ability to cheat death. Smug as always Kirk's response was that he knew that he would survive that fall. My point for bringing that scene up was that it gave me clarity on Kirks way of thinking, the man is insane! <p> He is also the ultimate opportunist, he's one of those guys that we encounter all the time in schools and the workplace. <p> One of those guys that don't study shit, hangout all the time, lives for the moment, chasing chicks and somehow winds up being the boss. Mainly because they are overconfident and cocky as hell.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    that will never happen

    by Six Demon Bag

    therre will never be a film that unites the geek world--there will always be contrarians who "are above" the norm and think they know better than the masses...at least that is what they will say here in the TB..but who knows if they are really being entertained when watching said films they despise?<P>i think it is in geek blood to instinctively thin something is not good and to shit upon it and hate it.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    You're Right, 6 Demon

    by Alex Childress

    I guess my point is we live in a day and age where we can see our heroes on the screen, and we have A-List talent actually attached to it - trying to make it better, while appeasing the suits, with we geeks as their base - To Repeat, We Do Have the power to kill these movies - and without their base, they're hamstrung. I, for one, appreciate the efforts of Favreau and Company to even take the time to wow us. Let's remember the 1993 Captain America, or the 2004 Fantastic Four and remember - No one is required to try and make it cool

  • July 26, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Sorry, Got My Lines Crossed

    by Alex Childress

    Let's face it - had it not been for Abrams, the ENTIRE Star Trek franchise would be dead after 18 years of the same creative vision rent it stagnant. Enterprise had potential to be great, but was not. And it felt like they stopped trying because Star Trek fans are like crack addicts - whatever's offered, they need their fix. How little did they realize. Star Trek 2009 has re-established the franchise for a wide audience. You cannot deny the logic of this, or the fact that with this new opportunity, they can have a parts 2 and 3 that hew closer to what Gene Roddenberry thought of Star Trek. Me, personally, I would like to see the return of the social consciousness that the original series had - the return of the hidden morality tale

  • July 26, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    I hope AVATAR is GOOD CINEMA

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    But if it ISN'T it's going to be fun to watch a bunch of talkbackers defend it with basically the same arguments that joshuavance and myself and others have used to defend Abrams' TREK. <br /><br />We went in wanting to have fun. We got what we wanted. You went in wanting to piss and moan and nitpick violations to your precious "canon". You got what you wanted.<br /><br />The Star Wars prequels didn't have the same effect on me as the original trilogy. But I can recognize that Revenge of the Sith is a better film overall than Return of the Jedi was. And while Abrams'TREK may not reach the gold standard of Khan or First Contact, anyone who says it's worse than Insurrection or Nemesis is just plain LYING.

  • July 26, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    This isn't a Republic Serial

    by The StarWolf

    Waiting a week to find out how a story turns out is one thing. Waiting months, if not a year or more, that's different. I'll pass if that's really what these bozos have planned.

  • July 26, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    There is a BIG problem

    by ratpack223

    Star Trek did well in the USofA, but fell through around the world (as all Star Trek movies). Unless the marketing department can solve this soon, there will be trouble ahead for the franchise...

  • July 26, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    AVATAR is to Good Cinema, what shit is to asshole

    by dioxholster

    and you're the toilet seat

  • July 26, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Alex Childress has a dream.

    by Subtitles_Off

    And he wastes it on geek movies.<P>The leaders of the past despair.

  • July 26, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    No, it was a green apple.<br><br>You know, you just kinda proved why you find amusing Dawson's Trek. you already forgot to much of what was going on inthe movie, all you know retain was this vage notion that the movie was "exciting". Me, i remember all the bullshit that movie has. It's carved on my brain like a bad leech. It's terrible because it pollutes me mind with the worst filmic memory i have since a long time. But it's great because i can recall all the bullshit that mvoie has so i can throw them at he faces of the fanboys who found enjoyment with that bullshit movie.

  • July 26, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    The Kirk we know form the TOS WOULD HAD NEVER BEEN SMUG. Not evne as a teen. You cannot be that smart and compete and be smug atthe saem time. Smugness is a fundamental character flaw. It doesn't go away when you gow old, it only gets worst and reinforced throughout your life.<br><br>Kirk's smugness is another proof of the complete retardnes of the Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek piece of shit movie idioticy. I know what they were doig ther,e they were making Kirk a clone of Maverick, the exacrable protagonist of Top Gun played by Tom Cruise. and any movie that is based on Top Gun is fucked up beyond all redemption. One needs to be stupid like shit to find Top Gun inspiring and worth of copying. Of course, Bob The Orci and Jar Jar Abrams are just such kind of people.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by AsimovLives

    Hello friend. Comandante kwisatzhaderach is right, your nick is indeed very good stuff. Nice to know some people here respect the good classics.<br><br>But let me tell you this, if i had payed 40 bucks to watch Dawson's Trek, i would had murdered somebody by now! Fucking holy shit, 40 bucks to pay for that shit? You should be leading the revolution! You should had been with a mob with pitchforks and torches and burn down the devil's lair that Jar Jar Abrams calls home. 40 fucking bucks!! Unfucking believable!<br><br>Star Trek 6 is quite good, you can't deny that.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    up was a masterpiece

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    along with every pixar movie except cars. i havent seen a bugs life in years so im not sure about that one, i remember being very funny though.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Don't even try to generalize the reactions against Dawson's Trek as those agaisnt the SW prequels. for starters, the msot ardent critics of the prequels were the hardcore SW fanboys. In Dawson's Trek, most f the trekkies have sold their asses cheap to Jar Jar Abrams's abomination. So we have a reverse situation here.<br><br>My compelte detesting of Jar Jar Abram's Dawson' Trek piece of shit abomination is, most and foremost, a criticism of that as a movie first, as Star Trek second. Even if Jar Jar Abrams had come up with soemthing original that had never existed before, even if there had been no Star Trek before, evne then his movie would still be a complete pile of horrible shit. That lone is enough to merit my disgust. That Jar Jar Abram's piec eof shit movie is supposed to be a Star Trek movie is just but it pisses and shits on it is just the cherry on top of the complete bullshit that movie is.<br><br>Jar Jar Abrams' movie being bad on it's own is it's primary problem, pretending it's Star Trek and fucking up the legacy is secondary.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    You'd better agree on Apaloosa, friend. One would need to be fucking blind not to know how good that movie is.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Alex Childress

    by AsimovLives

    From the tip of my head i can think of 3 movies which any self-respecting geek loved and met their expectatiosn or even surpassed them: Casino Royale, Iron Man and The Dark Knight.<br><br>You know, one of the stupidiest arguments any fanboy of a piece of shit dumb movies like Jay Jay Abrams' Dawson Trek can ever bring is to accuse people who criticisze this type of retarded shit mvoies of not being capable of getting fun form movie or never being satisfied. That is bullshit. No, wt not get much fun or being satisfied with SHIT STUPID DUMB MOVIES. and that's the point. and when in a year like this when EVERY FUCKING BLOCKBUSTER that is bnot called Harty Potter is a piece of shit, you can bet your ass they will have much to be critical and unsatisfied at.<br><br>It's logical to be unsatisfied and critical of a shit movie. It's weird, kinky and crazy to eat up a shit movie and came out of it smiling.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Alex Childress

    by AsimovLives

    Ypuer dream should be about qwhen Holylwood gets it's shit together and start making proper good movies. The problem is not the people who complain about bad movies, the problem is the people who make the bad movies.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    I'm suprised you offered that pretty shallow interpretation of the geek's mind. You are a far much more intelligent person the that, man. What happened, you had a brain-fart? Or is somebody else here using your nick and cast aspergions on your good name? But really, dude, you cannpt be real about what you said above. That's so unlike you saying such a thing. I didn't recognized the cool, gentlemanly and intelligent dude i know in that post.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    "No one is required to try and make it cool"

    by AsimovLives

    Quite the contrary, the filmmaers are DEMANDED to make it cool. Not try, MAKE IT. There'sno try, there's only do. Do or fail.<br><br>Filmmakers are required to make good and cool movies. why? Because we pay for them. Pure and simple. Do you pay for a shit car that breaks at the smallest of things? Do you pay for a house that falls at the first rains? Do you pay for a set of cloths that torns the first day you dress them? Do you pay for food that poisons you instead of feed? Same thing with the movies. You pay, you got to get good. Andthe filmmakers ARE REQUIRED to deliver the goods. They don't, ti's fail. A dumb movie is a bad movie is a failure. That's how it is.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Just saw UP last night again

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Not Pixar's best (that would be INCREDIBLES) but still a really great movie. I thought that it was a little weird that for a Disney kids' movie that (spoiler) they would show the bad guy shooting a shotgun at the little kid and the badguy falling to his death but then I remembered that children's fairytales have lots of violence in them already (like Hansel and Gretal and the Witch that tries to put them in the oven) not that Disney ever made a movie about Hansel and Gretal (that I know of). But the stuff about Ed Asner and his wife was very, very touching. So far, RATATOUILLE has been Pixar's only missfire for me. GIVE US INCREDIBLES 2!!

  • July 26, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Alex Childress

    by AsimovLives

    "had it not been for Abrams, the ENTIRE Star Trek franchise would be dead"<br><br>Star Trek IS DEAD! All there is now is a bad parody of Star Wars, with the main characters named after the TOS Star Tek series. But there is no Star Trek now. all thereis is a bad copy of Star Wars done like a teen soap opera, with action scenes shot in shaky-cam, the more expesive they are, the worst shot they get. There's no Star Trek today. Nothing. Jar Jar Abrams officially killed Star Trek with his bullshit movie. He buried it, he unburied it and set on fire, and he quenched the fire by pissing and shitting on the ashes.<br><br> What Jar Jar Abrams did to Star Trek was worst then what most ST enemies would even dream dare to do to that saga if they had the chance. Mosty ST enemies wouldn't had gone that far, they would still show some minimum amount of respect, decency or restrain. Only an extreme deranged psychotic enemy of ST would had pulled out what Jar Jar Abrams did in his movie in the name of Star Trek. Or a very stupid clueless retard idiot who has no ideas what ST or cinema is about.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    UP YOURS: sequel to UP

    by dioxholster

  • July 26, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Asimov Re: TOS

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    You do reallize that TOS stands for THE ORIGINAL SERIES, yes? Therefore placing the word "the" before it is akin to saying "the The Original Series." Just sayin'. Otherwise I agree with your points.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek is worst then a bucket of shit. This makes it far worst then ST Insurection or Nemesis. The problem those two movies had was not they are shit, but that they are misguided. They had the problem of the execution not meeting the needs of the story. They have a failure of execution. Dawson's Trek has a failure of EVERYTHING!

  • July 26, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    And if Avatar sucks ass...

    by AsimovLives

    ... i'll be in the frontline throwing eggs at it. Deosn't mean i'll be any kinder to Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek piece of shit movie. Two wrongs do not make a right.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    ZombieHeathLedger

    by AsimovLives

    You are absolutly right. Thanks for correcting me.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Avatar will be a joke

    by dioxholster

    especially to the Talkbacks. cant wait

  • July 26, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by AsimovLives

    You still have to wait until december, don't you? Better bring a chair.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    why doesn't boborci comeon AICN again and confirm?

    by Puddleglum

    I haven't bothered reading above to see if he has. Just askin' since he does show up on here from time to time.....

  • July 26, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Like the end of Khan then...?

    by DC Films

    Lovely Jubbly

  • July 26, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    New Star Trek

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    I thought it was pretty good. TOS was pretty good. DS( was pretty good too. Hated Voyager,Enterprise, most of the previous Trek movies. Kahn was great, and I think this new series is trying to get into that same vibe. It still needs work, but I think they're headed in the right direction. Things change. Batman went from good to bad to anus lickingly horrible to amazing. So to has trek run this cycle (in its own way)

  • July 26, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Thing i want to see in the next Jar Jar Abrams Dawson's Trek mov

    by AsimovLives

    This is the stuff that has to be in the new Jar Jar Abrams' Dawson Trek movie, he has to bringit or he will fail in his abramsverse vision:<br><br>1- Kirk have his ass kicked by EVERYBODY,and i mean literally everybody in the movie, and this time it has to include Uhura as well. Last movie was sexist because only the men beat the shit out of Kirk. This type of sexist is repreendible. Jar Jar Abrams, it's the 23th century, man!<br>2- More extreme emotional outbursts from Spock for the most mundane of reasons. And i want Spock crying like a girl, dammit!<br>3- Sulu doing nothing.<br>4- Chekov's accent has to be even more incompreensible. It's like more fun, my jingoist etnocentric side demands more funny foreign accents, they are so funny them foreigners!<br>5- More screen time on Scotty's useless sidekick weird alien. More screentime should be wasted on things that don't matter to the plot.<br>6- More malte brewry destillary design in the engine rooms. The former movie don't had enough. We need more of that. and this time, it better runs some real whiskey from them pipes!<br>7- More plot stuff stolen from Star Wars. Star TRek is now so much better if they tutrern it completly like Star Wars. It's science fiction, and there is only one type of science fiction, and that's Star Wars. MORE STAR WARS!!!<br>8- More magic. We don't need no science stuff in the movies. Science is boring! Magic is the rulez!! Make Star Trek more like LORT with magic. Magic is awesome. Fans of Jar Jar Abrams Dawson's Trek are too cool for school, we don't need that stupid science futuristic extrapolation boring stuff, that's not kewl and street. We need more magic!<br>9- More coloured nonsense matter that creates stuff as if by magic. former movie was red, this time should be brown. Browm matter in next movie. And now, to amp thing up, the brown matter should be able to do everything, from the black holes to strawberry ice cream.<br>10- more shacky-cam. Specially in the bigger space battle scenes. In last movie, i almost got to understand what was going on. That's so lame and old fashion! This time, i want to be complely unable to udnerstand what is going on, and the most expesive the CGI scene is, the more shaky the camera should be. I want to not havea clue what is happeing, and i want to come out of the mvoei it a sereve migrane a a bad case of motion sickness. That's so fun and modern!! Don't pussy out, Jar Jar Abrams!<br>11- The lasty movie was not stupid enough. I need the movie to be more stupid, so i can have more fun. I can only have fun isthe mvoei is stupid and moronic. i know that the script is in good hands with the Oric and the Klutzman, and still, amke sure the movie is now even more retard, Jar Jar Abrams. Don't fails us on the fun!12- Teen Khan!! Make Khan like really young and OMG hot! There' too much old men in your last movie, Jar Jar Abrams! Make it more like Twilight, that's how cool movies are!13- Kill all the old characters, Jar Jar abrams. Teens can't identify with older people, do kill them all and only leave the teen Trek crew, they are the rulez!<br>14- Make Uhura more bitchy. forget she has talent for command and intelligent, we can't identify with that. She's too smart, make her achieve her goals by being sexy and fuck around, an and by anoying everybody with her bitching demands. Talent and intelligence is overrated.<br>15- Make Scotty more funny. Teesn don't care if he can fix anythign,that's like boring, i don't go watch a movie to see people more capable thenm me, Scotty needs to screw up a lot so that's funny and make us laught. I want more dumd prattfall comedy, and with more funny accents too. And more useless sidekick, did said that before?<br>16- Old spock like now is so old, make fun of him, make him not know how to count anymore and had him slip on a banana peel and fall on his ass, old men falling is so OMG funny! And then kill him because he's old and not hot!<br>17- The enterprize needs to be more overdesign, with more stuff coming out of it, like more antennas and stuff, and the nacelles neds to look more like blowdryers, stuff we can identify with out superficial normal life. last Enterprise was too futuristic, need more things like modern american badly made ugle cars. Make Enpterprise look more like a SUV, that's so the cool!! And mroe overdesign, i need to not really know how it looks like standing still.<br>18- more over-editing. Last movie there was shots that lasted more then one second. That's so boring! Quick up the editing, Jar Jar Abrams!! Don't make boring!<br>19- Make the klingons totally liek evil. I don't want to feel any emphaty or understand their plausible motivations. I don't want them to have detailed and specific characteristics. they are villains, OMG, just have them be killed a lot by the heros. Make the klingong like the arabs, they are so evil OMG, but like make them like not being really like arabs but they have to really look like arabs so we can understand they are arabs and arabs are so evil OMG. But don't forget to have all Klingons punch Kirk a lot. Kirk needs to be punched a lot before he can have somebody else kill the klingons for him. That's so cool!<br>20- Make everybody explain the plot every 5 minutes, last movie you had the characters explain every 10 minutes and by that time i already forgot what the plot was about. more plot explaining and in less time intervals please, Jar Jar Abrams, i go to the movie to have mindless fun not to think any, OMG.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Star Trek was a good movie

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    It was! Squeal to Lord Zod above if you must, but face it-MORE people liked it and enjoyed it than hated it. That means there'll be another one and another one and another one another one and another one and another one another one and another one and another one BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA! BEHOLD THE PRINCE OF LIES HAS COME! THE END OF DAYS IS AT HAND! ABANDON ALL HOPE, AND PREPARE FOR ETERNAL DAMNNATION! AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

  • July 26, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    ENTERPRISE was great during the third season

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    when they had the season-long "Spherebuilders" storyline. It was very intelligent with post 9/11 inspired episodes dealing with torture of prisoners for information, moral questions like cloning for spare human parts, and stealing parts of ships from non-enemies so that you can continue to fight your enemy, interesting stuff.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    Hundreds of billions of flies eat shit. So, i guess that they must be right, and shit must be really good. By your logic, that's correct, right?

  • July 26, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    MOOOORE SHIT!!!!! BEHOLD THE PRINCE OF LIES HAS COMETH! MORE!!!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    ZombieHeathLedger

    by AsimovLives

    They had to reach the 3rd seasson to be really good? and what happened afterward, anyway? Didn't Enterprise run for like 6 seasons?<br><br>And what was the deal with the fucking opening credits? That song was an abomination!! A rock power ballad for a ST intro? What the fuck was that shit?

  • July 26, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Orci...

    by Roketopunch

    just become a producer or better yet kill yourself you hack. He helped Bay destroy Transformers. Star Trek as OK but once again, I can see his flawed writing pop up in that film. This guy must have sucked Satans cock at one time because he is a horrible writer.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    RE:Thing i want to see in the next Jar Jar Abrams Dawson's Trek

    by Mr Incredible

    Asimov, you forgot we need more product placement and a even more grandiose soundtrack. Damn, this movie pretty much killed Star Trek for me.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Mr Incredible

    by AsimovLives

    Right you are.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Thing i want to see in the next Jar Jar Abrams Dawson's Trek mov

    by AsimovLives

    OMG, i forgot to ask Jar Jar Abram one thing to put on the next Dawson Trek movie:<br><br>21- More product placement. Becasue like i want to be told what i must buy from a fun movie. Product placement is so OMG the awesome makes the future like so real and now! MORE PRODUCT PLACEMENT!!!!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Flies n' shite

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    You can attract more flies with shit than honey.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    THIS ASIMOVLIVES GUY NEEDS TO GET A LIFE!!

    by I am the Terminator

    how can anyone talk about Star Trek all day??<P>you need to get out and go on a date or something, you fucks!!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Still though....

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    I liked new Trek.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Thing i want to see in the next Jar Jar Abrams Dawson's Trek mov

    by AsimovLives

    OMG, i forgot again to ask Jar Jar Abram one more thing to put on the next Dawson Trek movie:<br><br>22- More indescernible music score that i cannot understand from the background noise of the explosions. Not listening to music is so awesome! Movie not having any memorable music track is so moder and like so awesome. The less i can realise there's a score playing the better. and if there is a screo playing, make the music really very very bland and unmemorable, because i don't want to think about the music, i want to have FUUUUUUNNNN!!!!!!!<br>23- ONE MORE THING, Jar Jar Abrams, put some modern today songs in it, so i can listen to today's song in a movie about the future, that is like so realistic! Put music like OMG Jonas Brothers and the dreak that is now fashionable, you put that trendy songs in your movie and i'll running to buy the soundtrack CD OMG that would be so COOL!!!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator

    by AsimovLives

    Unlike God, i don't rest on sunday.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    now you're just being silly.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed. Dawson's Trek is total proof of that.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Do you think maybe, JUST MAYBE..this movie touched you emotionalllllly?

  • July 26, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    ASIMOVLIVES

    by I am the Terminator

    you don't rest on sunday? i bet you don't get laid either.<P>damn, you're a nerd!!<P>fuck!!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    Dude, the list i posted above is totally in tune to the movie that jar Jar Abrams made. It's a very logical extrapolation from what kind of movie Dawson's Trek is, and what kind of director the Jar Jar is anmd what kind of "writers" the Bob the Orci and the Klutzman are. And there is not one single thing in that list that a fan of the Dawson's Trek wouldn't had already listed as things they would want in the next movie. The list was writen as parody, but the things in it are things that many people would really want for the next Dawson's Trek movie.<br><br>Didn't The Dark Knight and Empire strikes Back, and even Trasnformers 2, escalated from their previous movies? So will Dawson's Trek 2, they will escalate as well, and like Tranformers 2, it will escalate the stupidity and the shittiness. It will happen. Trust Bob The Orci, The Klutzman and Jar Jar Abrams for that.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    YEAH WHY ARE PEOPLE ON HERE?

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    it's sunday you GODDAMN NERD I HATE YOU! WHY U BE ON WEBSITE ON A SUNDAY? silly little faggots there's no posting on sunday FUCK!!!!!!!!!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator

    by AsimovLives

    Somebody who posts on AICN accuses others of being nerds and not get laid. The irony of that is so thick, one would need a chainsaw to cut through it.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator

    by AsimovLives

    You must also not know much about sex, if you think that getting laid would take THE WHOLE DAY THROUGH. Or do you have, err shall we say, problems with the getting it up?

  • July 26, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Trannyformers_Apologist

    by AsimovLives

    We should only post when we are at work and only on working hours. That's when we should post, abusing the boss's trust and fucking around with the boss' time. That's how you do it! Fuck responsability and fuck the job!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Star Trek is worst fucking over hyped overrated ...

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    donkey fucking shitfest since Iron Man. <P> Any goat fucker off the street could write a better story just COPY AND PASTE from Star Wars and the Star Trek tv shows. Jar jar to RIPOFF MICHAEL BAYS TERRIBLE DIRECTING STYLE. <P> fuck everybody who praises this movie as being anything other than "mediocre at best"<P> Avatar looks like shit.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    ASIMOVLIVES

    by I am the Terminator

    it must take a special kind of non-pussy getting kind of nerd to post about Star Trek all day long!!<P>when was the last time you went on a date? have you ever kissed a girl?<P>aha ha!!<P>damn, you're a huge nerd!!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed. I was so emotionally touched that it made me sick and vomited my guts out! Fucker owns me lunch! H1N1 aint shit on this fucking bullshit!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Getting laid

    by dioxholster

    not me, which is why im here. and why arent you guys in comic-con where all the pussy is located?

  • July 26, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator

    by AsimovLives

    Let me guess, you liked Jar Jar Abram's Dawson trek, don't you? You think it's a good movie, don't you? But you canot come up with a coherent and articulated argument in support of the movie, can't you? So, you resort to personal attacks against those who are critical of the retarded piece of shit movie that you so like and admire, don't you?

  • July 26, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by AsimovLives

    Yeah, but what kind of pussy would be that? Middle aged women who payed plastic surgery to try to look like Xena?

  • July 26, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    diox

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    I'd like to go sometime, but living on the east coast, well, I guess I just don't care enough. I know I SHOULD care tho-TV tells me to.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    ASIMOVLIVES

    by I am the Terminator

    no, I am reading the discussion on this story and I can't believe someone would waste this much time wanking on Star Trek!!<P>it begs belief!!<P>be as coherent and articulated as you want. you're still not getting laid!!<P>lame O!!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with a ...

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    fake Xena hump-a-thon? Thanks to modern medical technology, the impossible is now SEMI-POSSIBLE!

  • July 26, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Trannyformers_Apologist

    by AsimovLives

    Are you trying to take from me the title of the angriest man in the world? All you need is just asking, i give it for free. Here, have it with my blessings. Here's to you, pal.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    If you had evenr sen the result of a middle aged women who had plastic surgery to try to look like Xena, you wouldn't be that enthusiastic. This is really a case of "accept no substitutes".

  • July 26, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator

    by AsimovLives

    What i don't get is why are you wasting your time in here. Can you offer a good justification for that? We are discussing movies, what are you doing?

  • July 26, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Asimov Lives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Some of your points may be valid, or at least arguable. But others are a willful misreading of what actually occurs.<br /><br />Uhura isn't saying Spock should assign her to the Enterprise because she's so sexy and they've had a prior relationship. She's mad at him for NOT assigning her to the Enterprise BECAUSE they've had a prior relationship. She's not sleeping her way to the top. She deserves the posting. Uhura was always a competent professional. She was also sexy and occasionally flirtatious. Zoe Saldana and the writers have not invented these characteristics. They were there when Nichelle Nichols played her.<br /><br />And as I've already pointed out in another Talkback, Anton Yelchin is of RUSSIAN DESCENT. He's entirely capable of doing a more realistic Russian accent. He CHOSE to do a more comedic one, because he wanted to honor Walter Koenig's portrayal of Chekov as a comedic foil for the other, older cast members. Why is it okay for Koenig to say Keptin and Wessels, and not okay for Yelchin to do it?

  • July 26, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Kirk getting his Ass Kicked is Funny

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    And also true to the show and movies. Kirk has to OUTSMART his adversaries. He's not some physically imposing badass. Spock is stronger than Kirk. Khan is stronger than Kirk. Any random Romulan or Klingon could take him in a fair fight. Doesn't he have to invent a weapon to beat the Gorn? Even fighting humans he usually ends up bloody and wearing a torn shirt. Kirk having his ass handed to him is one of the things REAL Trek fans enjoyed about the movie. He's a cocky little guy who never gives up. He's not Stallone or Schwarzenegger.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Stallone as Kirk

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Number One,Make it so. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    @ Six Demon Bag

    by Tigger11

    Trek is at 307 theatres, thats surely not anywhere, and ok it 3rd for the year for another day or two then its going to get passed by Harry Potter, then less then a week later its going to get passed by The Hangover and be in 5th place and we still have 5 months of movies to go, so its likely to go further down the list. I still dont understand the fascination with the 3rd best Star Trek movie involving Time Travel, but to each his own.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Spock dies at the end, but comes back in 3

    by pokadoo

    Trek 4 will be a time travel caper, 5 will be directed by Pine etc etc. Worf was right, it's the Mobeus!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Uhura uses their relationship to then emotionally armstrong Spock to put her on the Enterprise rooster. And what i found amusing, if not downright insult to the Spock's character, is that he breaks to her EMOTIONAL PRESSURE and reenlists her.<br>The Spock on once before not only would had done two of this things: 1- The would reassing himself to another ship; or 2- Report her ass and his too to the Starflee for a repriment. This two would never see the interior of a starship for the rest of their stay at Starfleet. Spock was right in his decision to assign him and Uhura tom different ships, due to their past romantic history. Uhura acts like apetulant bitch because she can only see in tunnel vision in being in the enterprise or bust. If she was really a top operational, any ship would do to show her qualities. she only wanting to serve on the enterprise is deranged and a complete unmilitary-like behavior. It's the pouting and the bitching of a rick spoiled teen high school brat, not of a responsible military. and Spocks acts like a bitch by breakign on the tiniest of emotional blackmail. The one Spock would had brough her and himself to the atention of the Federation and ask for disciplinary pusnihment for the two.<br><br>Don't evne remind me of that stupid retard atemopt at comedy withy the Chekov's russian accent. I don't nedd to be russian to see that accent is complete bullshit. He makes Walter Koening's fake rusian accent looks like the sound of a Moskow native. That the actro is a real russian sdescent means shit. The accent is still fake as and used in the most retarded and imbecillic fashion imaginable. This isa society that have spaceships that can cross the galalctic distance faster then the speed of light, and yet cannot have figured out a voice recognition sofware that can recognize a regional Earth accent? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???? when people talk about breach of internal story coherence, this si the kindof shit they are talkign about. This bullshit makes absolutly no sense in the universe presented. It's a crass breach of plausability. and all of that just for the sake of a very dumb cheesy joke! FOR FUCK'S SAKE!! Shit like this alone do help to sunk a movie pretty low. One alone mith not, but this piec eof shit abortion movies Dawson's Trek, it has one of this type of shit happening every fucking five munutes.<br><br>This movie is shit, man. Pure shit! It's the type of retardness i usually expect to see in a Michael fucking Bay movie, and that's not a fucking compliment!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Kirk was never seen at a fault as a fighter, ever. The man was a thinker and an action man. and the things he outwitted was not just the local brawlers, it was outsmarting very intelligent alien creatures who were mostly more powerful THEN HIS SHIP. Or in the case of Balalnce Of Terror, able to outsmart an extremely capable and intelligent romulan.<br><br>In Dawson's Trek, Kirk can't outthing his face away from a fist. All his other achievements are done by sheer coincidence, luck, deux ex machinas, neopotism and cheating from the scriptwriters. Dawson's Trek Kirk is the most useless, inept and idiotic hero i have seen since Dumb And Dumber.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    And in Dawson's Trek, Spock is a fucking emo bitch!

    by AsimovLives

    He's young my ass. The same guy who came top of his class in the Vulcan Academy of Total Logic, such a logical machine was him that he was offered teh rare honour of a seat in he council right out of the academy, and then he acts liek an emo bitch and falls fo the lamest emotional blackmail and the first mention of his mommy? Where the fuck is the coherence of that shit? It's clear the fucks who wrote adn directed this mvoie know shit about Spock. Or what logic is. Or story coherence and internal logic, for that matter. This guys are the most bunch of retarded idiots i ever seen making a movei this side of Micahel Bay. Fuck's sakes, that fucking amateurs!!!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Aliens AND Predators vs Dawson's Trek

    by AsimovLives

    a mvoe where the aliens and the predators team up to attack and kill the protagonists of Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek. The mvoie would be two hours of watching aliens and predators ripping off the guts, skins and spines of the Dawson's Trek protagonists, one by one. The end would be a musical number with dancing aliens, and where the predators would use the skulls of the Dawson's Trek protagonists as beer mugs. A great happy ending.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST

    I've come to realize TOS blows...

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    TOS wasn't all that good...yeah, the more I think about it, TOS was and will remain a benchmark in the annals of Horrible TeeVee Showz. The new Trek is light years ahead of the old dreck. Plus, I LUUUUUV the cool Vulcaine phrase "Prosper and Long Life" it's the k-k-kewlist!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Dawson's Trek Of The Dead

    by AsimovLives

    Zombies invade the Enterprise and eats the entire Dawson's Trek Enterprise crew. But the zombies cannot eat the crew's brains because they don't find any.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Since AsimovLives is Making Lists...

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I'll make one too! Here are my suggestions for boborci and JJ! <br /><br />1. Kirk needs to talk another computer to death. That never gets old.<br /><br />2. The crew needs to land on another planet where the entire society is structured around an old Earth movie genre.They've already done Westerns and Gangster movies. Given the popularity of Slumdog Millionaire, I vote for Bollywood Musicals. Aishwarya Rai was born to play a tempestuous Star Trek princess.<br /><br />3. If the crew ever encounters the Borg, Kirk needs to turn the Borg Queen against the Collective by being such a good kisser. That's always worked before.Bonus points if a leather clad Megan Fox is the Borg Queen.<br /><br />4.Bring back Nicholas Mayer and have the crew and their adversary quote Shakespeare and Dickens and Moby Dick at each other for no apparent reason. Geeks like literary references. It makes them feel smart.<br /><br />5.Remake the Space Hippies episode but this time do it with Emo Kids! Chekov can fall in love with Ellen Page and Diablo Cody can do a script polish.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives dumb and dumber?

    by lostbat

    The mere fact that you spent money on Dumb an Dumber......Do we have to say more?

  • July 26, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Dirty Harry vs Dawson's Trek

    by AsimovLives

    Inspectro Harry Callahan of the San Francisco Police Department shoots dead with a bulet in the head the entire crew of the Dawson's Trek Enterprise crew when he caughts them resisting arrest while in the progress of comit crimes against cinema. While eating an hotdog.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    J.J....

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Really out did himself. If you're honest, you'll admit that Jean Roddenberries vision was quite flawed. Maybe it was lack of funding for proper effects, but I think it was more of a lack of imagination. What J.J. did though, taking a shit anus 60's (50's?) show, retooling it, pumping it with some $$$$ and actually caring about the work, really just made for a great movie! Here's hoping we can put the past in the past (or with TOS, in the trashcan*snort*) and enjoy the rich new tapestry that is J.J.'s Star Trek!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    lostbat

    by AsimovLives

    What the hell are you trying to say? That you never payed a ticket or a rental and ended watching a bad movie? Are you going to tell that lie here?

  • July 26, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Did you ever heard of the concept of TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT? I bet you though you were being terribly clever with your post and you would shut the oposition down, would you? You must think that the Dawson's Trek oposition is as lacking as the fanboys who support that piece of shit movie, don't you? Guess what, we aren't.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    One of my biggest issues w/TOS

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Was the Cat/Lizard/Tard Snarf. Why did they have Snarf always running around, squealing like a feral pig? Kirk HATED Snarf! But at the end of each episode, Snarf would say something cute lie "snarf snarf" or "SSSSSnarf snarf snarf" Spoke would laugh heartily, Banes would grumble then snort a line of blow, and all would be right with the world. What the hell! am I right? AM I RIGHT?!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives

    by lostbat

    So nobody warned you for "Dumb and Dumber?" I wonder why............

  • July 26, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Or even worse-

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    When Banes and Spoke found that Portal that took them to the far reaches of Kevorkian space! They f-ing called it a Star Hole! Then what the fuck do they do? They spin it off into it's own series called...wait for it...STAR HOLE: TOS!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    It's take GENE rodenjberry's flawed BUT HIGHLY INTELLIGENT vision over Jar Jar Abrams retsrded, moronic, stupid asdn totally fucked vision any day of the week and any hour of the day.<br><br>Fuck's sake, the Jar Jar Abram's groupies are so out of whack, they have to resort to find non-existent bad things they pull out from thin air of the TOS to try to defend their abortion of a fucked up piece of shit beloved hack fuck and his fucking retared movie.<br><br>They remindme of the Michael Bay groupies who to defend their beloved hack they resorted to call Martin Scorsese and Stanley Kubrick as untalented and overrated directors and that Bay was better then them. This type of silliness is beyond description!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Asimov Re: ENTERPRISE

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Well, for me actually it didn't grab me until season 3's season long 'Spherebuilders' story arc. Others have mentioned shows like X-Files and Seinfeld which had similar growing pains. Season 3, however, is well worth catching in it's entirety if you ever get the chance. And yeah, the opening tune is a bit "You've GOt The Touch" from Boogie Nights/Transformers (the animated movie) but dammit if I wasn't singing it around the house on occasion by season's end which drove my wife nuts, haha. I don't think the show ran but one more season afer that which I admit I didn't see all of the season 4 episodes. I think the last show of the series had a guest appearance by the NextGen cast and it turned out the whole ENTERPRISE run had been a NextGen holodeck history lesson that Reiker, Troi, and Data were watching or maybe just that final episode was, I'm not sure as it's been a few years. Maybe a more qualified trekfan can clear it up. But check out season three, it's worth your time.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Asimov Lives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    If Roddenberry was still alive and running Star Trek he would have already greenlighted at least one of my suggestions. You're just jealous I came up with them first.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    lostbat

    by AsimovLives

    Make sense, man!

  • July 26, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Tho I did like it...

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    When the crew of the H.M.S Surprise had to fight the The Brlons for the matrix of leadership. Man, that shit was fucking messed up. Thank God they Got a new cast member out of it-what's his name with the deep voice...uhh...Dirk Vader i think..

  • July 26, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Scorswayze got his start directing episodes of Jean Roddenberries Presents: Star Treks, and a few episodes of Star Hole: TOS.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Asimov Lives: Make Sense?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    You First.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    OK i'm a little harsh, I did like a couple of eps. of...

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Jean Roddenberries Presents: Star Treks I liked the ep "The Telephone Box Man" That's the one where Kirk, Banes,Spoke,Snarf and Dirk Vader are exploring the forrest planet, Hoth, and discover a big green telephone booth. They go inside and discover that its actually much bigger inside tan it is outside. They meet the owner of the box, Mr.Huh, and learn that he's a time traveler from the distant future, where apes have taken over the world, and robot-like humans called Replicons are batteling them for control over Middle Earth. Mr.Huh transports the crew to the future, only to discover that they've actually gone into the past. There they must defeat the evil Sauron who's using a power called "the Force", which he gained from a radioactive spider bite, to turn the world's elderly population into little foodstuffs called Soiled Blue.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    For me the real problem with this movie...

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    was the fact that time travel was used. Again, this is the cheapest movie script writing out there. Can cop out on anything.<p>I have no problem with a reboot. Should have stayed completely away.<p>Also, the actors were terrible. Some seemed to be just trying to imitate the original crew while others had no real idea of who their characters were. I blame that on the writing.<p> If they wanted to include Nimoy they should have had him at the beginning telling a young crew or starfleet officer the tale of how the Enterprise crew got together.<p>Please, no more time travel. Quit insulting the audience and being cheap.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    ANY KLINGON/ROMULAN WAR MUST INCLUDE BATTLE SCENE LIKE THIS:

    by BringingSexyBack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QygUZ3j-ZRA&feature=response_watch <p> Remove spaces to see this epic battle

  • July 26, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Whoops.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    I meant that ST should have stayed away from time travel. Don't insult the audience with cheap plots.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    We need to get Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    together with Chocolate Woman.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    What is this shit about people thinking that others are jealous of others? What is that bullshit? Only people sick with jealousy and with their minds totally wraped up and fucked up presume that others are also run by those same personaly flaws. Fuck jealousy, that's for retards!

  • July 26, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    You know what is making sense? Realising what a piece of shit Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek really is.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    KIRK AND SPOCK SHOULD BOND MORE LIKE THEY DID:

    by BringingSexyBack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npFrW1f4ImA&feature=related <p> Remove spaces to see epic bonding

  • July 26, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    JEALOUSY!

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Jean Roddenberries has always been jealous of J.J.! ALWAYS!

  • July 26, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    BurnedNotice_Dude

    by AsimovLives

    You know what irritates me even more about Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek? It's cowardice. The makers completly chicken out. This fucks didn't even had the strengh of their convictions. They had to come up with that lame ass "this is a parale universe, teh old Star Trek still exists, really, it's just around the conner, on that black hole time travel bullshit we just puleld out of our asses". This fucks, this miserable retared hacks, they couldn't even had the balls to admit this was THEIR OWN VERSION OF STAR TREK. This fucks couldn't admit that hey were doing a FUKLL REBOOT. A full reboot like Batman Begins was.<br><br>The Bob The Roci, the Klutzmanmadn the Jar Jar abrams fucks, this cowardly fucking ballsess fucks they couldn't even stand on their oen fuckng creation. So, at the eleven hour, they came up with the paralel uiniverse bulslhit to cover their track and to kiss the ass of the old trekkies. Fucking pussies!! Fucking amateurs!

  • July 26, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Cym...

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Who is the Chocolate Woman you speak of?

  • July 26, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    You're not funny.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Asimov..

    by Fisting_Nell_Carter

    Don't. JUST DON'T. I....LOVE...YOU.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    Shit, i fucked up, that post was suposed to be about cymbalta4thedevil. Sorry.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Fisting_Nell_Carter

    by AsimovLives

    I'll offer you a green apple. To celebrate Kobiashi Maru, Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek piece of shit movie style.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    I LOVED HOW PINE KIRK DOVE TO SAVE SULU

    by BringingSexyBack

    That showcased his courage and selflessness. Fat Shat would've grabbed a Twinkie and watched Sulu fall.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    To all you Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek fanboys

    by AsimovLives

    I want to see from you reasons why you mistake that miserable piece of shit Dawson's Trek crap for a good movie. And it'sm no use to try to bash TOS or Gene rodenberry, you need POSITIVE arguments to justify whay your beloved shit movie should be mistaken for a good movie. And saying "because it was fun", "because i had fun" or invoking the box office numbers means imediate disclassification.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:25 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by AsimovLives

    I love how Pine Kirk gets his face punched by everybody, and he can't even swing a girly punch back. Shatner would had kicked the ass of anybody who would even dream of lifting his hand against him. And then he would fuck their wifes.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Pine Kirk selflessness

    by AsimovLives

    As ecanmplfied by how Kirk openly disobey Starfleet orders to stay aground and comits felony and concent on a 3rd party to comit felony so that he could advance HIS OWN PERSONAL AMBITION.<br><br>Can anybody remind me why i should give a fuck about this teen Kirk petulant obnoxious piece of shit?

  • July 26, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Pine Kirk selflessness (post corrected)

    by AsimovLives

    As examplified by how teen Kirk openly disobey Starfleet orders to stay aground and comits felony and concent on a 3rd party to comit felony so that he could advance HIS OWN PERSONAL SELFISH AMBITION. Can anybody remind me why i should give a fuck about this teen Kirk petulant obnoxious selfish piece of shit?

  • July 26, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    JJ's Star Trek Appeals to Kids & Teenagers

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    and College Students.<br /><br /> Just Like the Original Show did in the 60's and 70's.<br /><br /> It's not designed to appeal to fanboys in their 30's and 40's who are obsessed with trivia and minutia about THINGS THAT DON'T REALLY EXIST.<br /><br />It's not George Lucas' fault you're not eight years old anymore. It's not Gene Roddenberry's fault you're a pedantic tool either.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    MORE BREWRIES!! MORE PIPES!!

    by AsimovLives

    The new Dawson's Trek movie needs more pipes and more brewry aparatus in the enterprise's engine rooms. Because that's so visionary and shit!

  • July 26, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    JJ wasted 2 Hours of AsimovLives' Time

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    How many hours of our time are you going to waste bitching about it? Do you want us to take up a collection to refund your ticket price?

  • July 26, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    While You're at the Brewery, Have a Drink

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    to go with all the straws you're grasping at...

  • July 26, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    I'll stop when i'll have my two hours back. And since that will never happen, the answer to your question is: FOREVER!

  • July 26, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Let's Slingshot AsimovLives Around the Sun

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    So he can get his two hours back. This time he can use it to watch Harry Potter and the Half Baked Plot again... :D

  • July 26, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    The straws are on the Dawson's Trek fanboys side, who until now, have not yet come up with a convincing argument why their favorite piece of shit movie should be mistaken for a good movie. So far all they have come up is the same old useless "because i had fun" or regurgitating the press release from marketing department from Dawson's Trek advertiment campagn. And both that are bullshit. I'm still waiting for the thing i know it will never come: convincing aguments in favor of Dawson's Trek.<br><br>Would you Dawson's Trek fanboys admit, once and for all, that you love a horrible shitty movie, and it's your own guilty pleasure. Everybody understands guilty pleasures. what's lame and sad is to try to turn an obvious and undefensable piece of shit movie into something it's not, a god movie. Dawnson's Trek is the fatherst thing from a good movie this side of a Michael Bay movie.

  • July 26, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Lame joke. But i would sling something else TOWARD the Sun.... all copies of Dawson's Trek, except one, to be used to teach HOW NOT TO MAKE A MOVIE.

  • July 26, 2009, 6 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    When will you came up with reasonable, well thoughout and rational arguments in favour of Dawson's Trek? Will it happen anytime in this century?<br><br>Adn i said reasonable, well thoughout and rational arguments, not smart ass quips.

  • July 26, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    BSB in the house--now its a party!

    by Six Demon Bag

  • July 26, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    i referred to TREK playing in theaters...

    by Six Demon Bag

    cause someones said the hype was gone...but its still making pretty good money for a film that came out 12 weeks ago...thats a long time for geeks short attention spans..i say it will still be in the top 5 of the year..

  • July 26, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Star Wreck

    by MajorFrontbum

    I don't think the Trek fanbase is ready to cop another slap in the face, after that last plot hole infested train wreck of a film. Hire writers and a director who know and understand how Trek works.

  • July 26, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    Worldwide box offcie numbers for Dawsn's Trek aren't much higher then T4 or Wolverine.<br><br>Besides, what the hell does box ofice numbers have anything to do with a movie's quality? Never had, never will. Box office excuses are lame.

  • July 26, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Reasonable, Thoughtout Rational Arguments

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Do Not Exist in This Dojo.<br /><br />joshuavance, myself and others (including boborci himself!) have already had numerous opportunities to refute point by point your complaints about this movie. You've been reduced to cursing and foaming at the mouth and repeating yourself.<br /><br /> I LIKE most of the things you DISLIKE. It's that simple. I've explained away almost everything you consider a plothole, pointed out repeatedly that some of the actors you insist on calling teenagers are well into their thirties, and pointed out that 2/3 of the things you find silly or unscientific aren't any worse than numerous examples we can cite from 40 years of Trek "canon".<br /><br /> We like it. You don't. The fact that it's one of the most critically acclaimed movies of the year and the most successful Star Trek movie EVER both foreign and domestically doesn't prove that we're right and you're wrong. But it does prove that your opinion is in the minority.<br /><br />I liked the new Harry Potter movie too. Feel free to explain why you have no problem with the plot holes, kissyface teenagers and "canon" violations (aka scenes that were in the book and not in the movie or in the movie and not in the book)in THAT movie.

  • July 26, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    MajorFrontbum

    by AsimovLives

    Star Wreck is the title of a real movie. It's a fan fiction parody movie made in Finland, and it's really pretty good. It's a fun comedy that parodies Star Trek, both TOS and Next Generation, and they even mannged to parody Babylon 5 as well (long story). It was made with very, very little money, and yet the CGI special effects are very very good, very close to motion picture quality. and best of all, no cshakycam, which means you can really see what is happening when the final big space battle happens... and it's a really big space battle, Babylon 5 vs Star Trek Next Generation ships blasting the shit out of each others. And the movie is very funny. Finnish humour is a bit close to english humour but with a bit more pratfall nonsense. And they love to mock the russians to shit.

  • July 26, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    All that you and your compadres have ever done is regurgitating the promotional texts and spew a lot of platitudes that are the easiest thing to refute this side of a Michael Bay movie. You have NEVER, EVER, came up with a good and reasonable argument. All you (you as in plural) have ever came are just excuses, appologistic nonsense, nonsequiturs and last minute revisionisms to try to justify the complete nonsense idioticy taht populates the Dawson's Trek movie from start to finish.<br><br>And see if you Dawson's Trek fanbvoys get this through your skulls one and for all: the issue is not if you liked it or not. nobody gives a fuck about that. The issue here is WHY YOU MISTAKE THAT PIECE OF SHIT FOR A GOOD MOVIE. That's the real fucking issue. And to say tyhat "it's good because i liked it" is bullshit. That's not a reason, that's not an argument, that's a personal statment. And that means nought.<br><br>Valid, reasonable, rational, well defended arguments, that's the thing that no Dawson's Trek appologist fanboy never came up with. Never! And i don't see any of that ever come true in any near or not so near future.

  • July 26, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Who cares when District 9

    by OzzyManDiaz

    Will be trying to talk to your eyeballs all through middle school. During the summer leading up to High School, It will lose substantial weight, and its severe acne problem, making it more sexually appealing to your eyeballs. But D9 has grown colder and has fallen in love with a new pair of eyeballs, who have no trouble giving up sex on the first night. During the big dance, your eyeballs ask D9 for a dance and then proceed to display some of the most erotic dance moves ever seen. D9 leaves its date and asks if your eyeballs would like to take a ride in its Iroc, to check out lookout point. There, D9 pulls out its large, veiny penis and asks for a blowjob. Your eyeballs, obliges, and during the hot felatio action, propositions D9 for sex. Trouble is, D9 has herpes and is completely upfront about it. Appreciating the honesty, your eyeballs agree to sex anyway, figuring they already caught the disease while in blowjob mode. THIS AUGUST!

  • July 26, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    And you called joshuavance in support?

    by AsimovLives

    That pedantic pseudo-intellectual idiot who doesn't understand the meaning of half the words he uses and all he does is regurgitating the promotional texts from Dawson's Trek advertizement?<br><br>And Bob The Orci, the intellectual giant who wrote The Legend Of Zorro, The Island, Transformers 1 and 2?<br><br>And you even ask me why i don't take your side very seriously? If that's the best you can come up with, you might as well surrender right now, you are doing yourselves more harm then anythign your oponents could ever dream inflicting. You lose from the get go.

  • July 26, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    District 9

    by AsimovLives

    Now that's a movie i really want to see. That, Moon and The Road seems to be the only legit SF that will get to be released this year. Some good movies to help us get rid of the bad taste left by the complete shitty mediocrity of Watchmen, Terminator 4, Wolverine, and Dawson' Trek. And i'm probably missing some other shitty bullshit that i must have blocked out of my mind.

  • July 26, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    How is what you're saying any different than me asking WHY YOU MISTAKE THAT GOOD MOVIE FOR A PIECE OF SHIT?<br /><br />Your opinion is just that: your opinion. The things you consider "facts" to back your opinion have been proven WRONG over and over again.How many of them do I have to list?<br /><br /> The cast aren't teenagers. The "plot holes" are explained in dialogue you didn't pay attention to. The "science" in the movie isn't anymore phony than the horseshit technobabble you've been swallowing since the original series. The artistic choices you consider "mistakes" ( Chekov's accent, Not giving Sulu more to do, Using a Brewery etc.)are debatable, but they didn't stop millions of people from following and enjoying this movie.I respect their artistic decisions. You don't.<br /><br />Some of you were complaining about "Emo Spock" earlier today. EVERYTHING they referenced in this movie is "canon". Spock WAS teased as a child. He DID get into fights. He DID turn down the Vulcan Science Academy and join Starfleet causing a rift with Sarek. He WAS more emotional in his early years. He DID have relationships with human females in his Academy days. Go watch the FUCKING SHOW again. You guys seem to think the coldly logical Spock HAS no emotions. I don't need to prove you wrong about that. The Show and the Movies have already done that for me.<br /><br /> Nimoy loved the script and loved the movie. If I have to choose between AsimovLives and Nimoy as an authority on Spock, I go with Nimoy.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    asimov--i agree about the box office stuff

    by Six Demon Bag

    but someone above said the hype died quickly for TREK...thats all, the only reason why i brought up the BO..which would mean people are still seeing it..hence hype still kindling...

  • July 26, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    And if Box Office isn't Important

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Why do you Haters keep LYING about it? You said it would fade quickly and it outlasted Wolverine and Terminator. You said it wouldn't be successful internationally and it's had the largest grosses of any Star Trek film in any market it's screened in. You said it wouldn't be the top grosser if you adjust for inflation. It's passed that milestone too. How many millions will it have to take in in DVD sales and rentals before YOU ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG?

  • July 26, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Nobody's Opinion has Changed.

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    The people who liked it still like it. The people who don't still don't. This groundswell of people who are going to suddenly regret the error of their ways and swallow the AsimovLives Kool-Aid don't exist.<br /><br />And there's nothing RATIONAL about lumping all the films you don't like together and labeling them all SHIT. That's not an argument. It's the opposite of one. And anyone who can't see a qualitative difference between the flawed but fun TREK and the flawed but fascinating WATCHMEN and the truly BAD films that have come out this year isn't worth arguing with.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit! You guys are still on here?

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Asimov, Six Demon good to see you guys are still fighting a good fight. <p> I had to get outside for lil' while this afternoon, gorgeous day. <p> What I miss?

  • July 26, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    The difference is that i can describe with very accurate and reasonable argument.<br><br>Your side has always come with nothing. nothign at all. all you have come up is claim you had fun with the movie, which means nothing. Regurgitating the promotional material from the movie's own advertizemnt (jezz, a movie wants to seel itself as good, who would even expect that?). You guys have nothing in your favour. Nothing. and you go around pretent that we whoa re rightly critical of this movie have no argument, or have been proven wrong. When the oposite is what really happened. Everything you even came up with have taken a shallecking. All you cna come up with is pretending to other side doesn't exist,a dn don't know what they are talking about, ghna ghan ghan i can't hear you. It's pure put the head in the sand strategy. And you know it. You all know it. You all have been bombarded with right in the nose reasons gfor the exteme failure of Dawson's Trek, and all you do is shrug your shoulders and pretend that never happened. Nonsense! It's the actions of those who know they are on the wrong side but don't have the intellectual fortitude to admit it. It's not good.<br><br>I aso love thepathetic atempt to throw sands to the eyes of your oponent with the "yeah, but TOs had this silly thing in it, and that, and that and that". As if that is any argument in your favour whatsoever. No, all that does it tell the TOS had some silly and bad stuff in it. NO, REALLY???? WHAT FUCKING UNEXPECTED NEWS!! Hey, dude, guess what, if you want to find easy picking about the TOS, go check out the 3rd season. The silliness in that season comes fast and thick. Why do you think so many of the TOS trekkies have problems with the 3rd season? There is quite a lot of silly stuff in TOS. some of them are stuff particular to how SF was back then. Part of it is due to the limitations of the television format, the tecnology they had at their disposal, the low budgets. and part is due to complete misguided decisions. Yeah, all that is right.<br><br>And what the fuck that has to do with the fucks ups of Dawson's Trek. Allow me to remind you once again of this axiom: TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT. TOS could even had been nothign but fucks ups,a dnthat would still not excuse in any way or form the fucks ups of Dawson's Trek. That silly atempt at, i can't even call it an argument, is lame. It only discredits you. and you guys on the Dawson's Trek side are very good at that, at discrediting yourselves. That's common to all the supporters of shit movies, so you are not even original in that regard.<br><br>That is the thing, you guys cannot ever make convincing arguments that Dawson's Trek is a good movie, BECAUSE THERE'S NONE! all you cna do is admit that Dawson's Trek is a guilty pleasure. Yeah, that's nice! Good for you. nice to know you had fun with it. but that's completly differnt thign then to claim that something ias good when it's the complete oposite.<br><br>Really, what's so fucking hard to understand about that?<br><br>Oh,and by the way, Nimoy is married to Michael Bay's cousin. Michael Bay is a recurrent professional partner of Bob The Orci. Who is a recurrent professional partner of Jar Jar Abrams. Coincidence that Nimoy would help out with the Jar Jar Abram/Bob The Orci Dawson's Trek deal? No, it's not! In common parleur, it's called A FRIEND'S FAVOUR.<br><br>Yes, spock has emotions. And liek any vulcan, he sublimates them, to thepoint he acts logically. Spock is super-logical, even for vulcan standards. spock in TOS acts emotional ONLY IN EXTREME CIRCUSNTRANCES, and in the 1st and in the second TOS seasons, only twice he acts emotionally, and always caused by external circunstances. In Dawson's Trek, he acts emotionally all the fucking time, he's an emotional wreack, he gets pricked on by the smallest agravations, and gets easily emotionally blackmailed with the easiest of efforts. Spock in Dawsons' Trek is a fucking emo!<br><br>And you don't even try to lecture me on logic, when guys on the Dawsons' Trek side are beret of that, as evidenced by your support of that piece of shit dumb stupid movie. Were you ever even familiar with the concept of logic, you wouldn't want to be assiciated with that crap. So desist to try to argue what is logival or non-logical behavior from a character that has something you guys know little to nothing about.<br><br>Scream to the winds all you like that you love the movie. Bust your lungs shouting tha,t for all i care. But for fuck's sake, clainmg soemthign as retard and stupid and dumb and so incompetently made is good, that's the stuff to boggles the mind to high heavens. Stop insulting our intelligence, will you?

  • July 26, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by Six Demon Bag

    then their defense is that the masses are stupid...exhibit A--transformers 2...<P>other than a TB, i have yet to hear anyone say anything bad about TREK..

  • July 26, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by AsimovLives

    What you have missed? A lot of nonsense from the Pro-Dawson's Trek side. As usual. But it's the same old mind boggling nonsense stuff they just keep on using, so nothing new, really.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    I can explain the 40 bucks....... <p> I took a honey out and and we both wanted to see the movie. $17.50 or some obnoxious shit for two tickets to get in. <p> Normally, I go to Walgreens or something and smuggle in my goodies but we were running late for the movie, another twenty bucks at the concession stand. <p> Trust me bro' If I didn't get laid that night, after watching that half hearted effort, I would've killed something.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Kurtzman, Orci and Abrams

    by #1 Zero

    have been working together at least since "Alias", so why is it any surprise that they continue to work together. I haven't seen transformers 2, and I enjoyed star trek and thought MI3 was better than the second. Its a simple conclusion the stuff these guys make makes money and therefore they will continue to get jobs until they don't make money whether it is liked or not. The hate for these guys is pretty virile when at the very worst I think their versions of Trek and MI3 are the lesser of two evils. Transformers may not be, but Transformers is for kids and they probably wrote it so not so smart kids could understand it. I guess we could have had Star Trek written by the writers of "Step Up" or "Stomp the Yard" or some other such crap. I think Hollywood in general is to blame for recycling Star Trek and it hurts peoples sensibilities that its not their ideal from their own mind and memories. Orci and Kurtzman are just players in an overall game that brings us Tron 2 and Red Dawn remakes becuase they're known properties and therefore have some kind of built in audience that will at least guarantee a few first week tickets sold out of curiousity at least. But go ahead to next years comic con and attack him if it makes you feel better. By the way, when people say "why don't you make your own movie and write your own script if you think you can do so much better" its actually not that hard. Learning screenwriting is fairly simple, I think the problem lies in getting your vision out there to the point where it gets made while for some reason people like Kurtzman and Orci get their stuff made. Well, life isn't fair, and Kurtzman and Orci are probably in their 40s or fifties and have probably been working at this for years and is now just paying off as much as it is. So I'm saying if you really try and keep at something creative that you enjoy doing maybe you can make a fortune for writing 120 pages of script and be able to put your mark on big hollywood franchises. Hell, if they can do it, why not you or me or anyone else.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Stay cool my Asimov, Mr Bag......

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Wake me when they start a Crank 2 talkback around here. <p> I'm amazed no one discusses that movie. ( I Re-watched it last night and it still cracks me up.) <p> I'm not saying it was the best thing since whatever, I just really had a good time with that movie, It was original, I've never seen anything so wonderfully ridiculous and not give a shit. I can't say that about any of the summer Blockbusters, none of them. Like I said earlier I did enjoy some of the things JJ did with the crew, that was fun other than that......... <p> Didn't they make Crank 2 with handhelds from Best Buy? How much money they spend on Balemator?

  • July 26, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    #1 Zero

    by AsimovLives

    The reason those 3 fucks keep stucking together is because they are all so fucked up incompetent idiots that they can't even dream to understand that none of them have any shade of talent. So the shit sticks together.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by AsimovLives

    Crank 2 came and went, bro. And for what it was, it was an OK movie, so ther'es no need to discuss that movie much. The same cannot be said to horrible piece of shit abortion movies like Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek, the type of shit that is helping destroying modern american cinema and advances the emergence of ASS: THE MOVIE. Shit, Dawson's Trek IS Ass: The Movie.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST

    I bet people were saying the same about Citizen Kane

    by lockesbrokenleg

    back when it came out.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    ....

    by Six Demon Bag

    ***DUCKS BEHIND CHAIR*****

  • July 26, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    I HEARD THAT CITZEN KANE REALLY BLEW!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Really? I liked it? Really? They used too many matte paintings. Really? The acting was good.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    ....

    by Six Demon Bag

    ***morricone score plays***<P><P>***tumbleweeds drift by***

  • July 26, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    I agree.....Asimov, But if we know it's shit.....

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Why stand around and smell it? <p> I know Crank came and went , I guess I was trying to make a point. <p> There are still original things out here, that's what we should appreciate. <p> Movies based on things we grew up loving and looking forward to always seems to be hit or miss and it's not just Star trek. <p> You can possibly say that about 75 percent of the Summer movies that came out the last 20 years.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    I hpoe the next Trek will be more about ideas

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    i get they had to do something more action packed to get the mouth breather masses in seats but hopefully next one they will be more in teh spirit of TOS and be more about philosophizing about things but still action obviously. and enough of the khan clones for badguys. there's a wide variety of villainy at their disposal.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by OzzyManDiaz

    You forgot about Transformers 2

  • July 26, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    You have the right to your opinion. Why do you deny others the right to theirs? I can accept that you genuinely hate this movie. Why can't you accept that other people genuinely love it? The only place this movie failed was between your own ears. You didn't like it. You didn't get it. It didn't work for you. By any other measurement it was a huge success. Everyone around you was smiling laughing and cheering. All you can hear is your own grumbling. That's as it should be. Your opinion is the only one that matters. To you. I don't need other people to confirm my opinion. I don't care if anyone else likes Star Trek. You're the one who keeps trying to get other people to agree with you. If you're so secure in your convictions, why the continuous angry swearing and ranting about a film you claim is a waste of everyone's time?

  • July 26, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    People are not going to be happy.....

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Until one of these shitty franchise movies impale somebody in the first row for being too close to the screen with all that bullshit flying around. <p> Hollywood keeps this up and somebody's going to loose an eye or leave the theatre and later realize they can no longer have erections. <p> Watch

  • July 26, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by OzzyManDiaz

    You liked Dawsons Trek? If so, your opinion is invalid.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST

    I have no interest in Sports.

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I don't care who wins the Olympics or the Super Bowl or the Tour De France. No interest whatsoever. But I respect the opinion of the millions of people who feel differently. I don't waste time on the internet ranting that they're all stupid retarded dumb shits who suck athlete's cocks. That's roughly comparable to what AsimovLives is doing. It's gone past amusing through bipolar depression and is now teetering on psychotic dementia. They didn't rape his sister or kill his grandmother. They made a movie he didn't enjoy. Let it Go.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    I've seen Ideas Trek already. It kinda blew

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 26, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    OzzyManDiaz

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Name 5 movies currently in theaters that are better than Star Trek.

  • July 26, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Still waiting on your reasoned rational defense of the new Harry Potter movie...

  • July 26, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    They're gonna make more Trek films?!?

    by Flip63Hole

    Bummer. One was plenty. Get to work on wrapping up Lost and figuring out what you're going to do with The Dark Tower, Abrams!

  • July 26, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives you prick

    by Otis_Burg

    I...have..had...enough...of...YOU!!! . . . While I can appreciate your love of Trek you fail to realize Abrams did us all a wonderful favor. Abrams stood up and bitch slapped Lucas and his gay prequels. Kirk was everything Annakin was not. A cool, funny, leader of men who wasnt afraid to make a decision. If the movie was so awful why would Nimoy participate in it? Why did Shatner desperately want too?

  • July 26, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    JJ

    by MajorFrontbum

    Abrams ruined Trek. It isn't even Trek anymore, you brainwashed Hollywood junkies. You will like anything critics tell you like.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by OzzyManDiaz

    Bruno Drag Me To Hell Public Enemies UP $9.99 You got owned. Eject JJ Gabrahms cock from your esophagus.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Brainwashed bandwagon ADD fangirls

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    and their strawman arguments and apologies keep Hollywood going strong! <P> I hope Hollywood continues to produce more shit for you to choke on.

  • July 26, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Orci and his ilk get the "writing" jobs because

    by kabong

    they are able and willing to plug in the tired tropes demanded by studio/network coke-dealing executives. <P> There had to be a scene with the Jake Lloyd clone: plug into page two. <P> There had to be a scene with Jimbo on a motorcycle: plug into page ten. <P> Hot bitch whining: plug into page twenty. <P> There was no effort to remain faithful to Trek canon/continuity because then there would have been no time/space for the required crap. <P> The last thing that "producers" want to see in a script is anything they haven't seen before.

  • July 26, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    OzzyManDiaz

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Now that I see your taste (cough) in movies I can completely understand why you didn't like Star Trek.<br /><br /> With The Hurt Locker and Moon in theaters, your Go To movies are Bruno and Drag Me To Hell?<br /><br /> Where is Drag Me To Hell still playing? The $1 show at the Drive-In in Buttscratch, Arkansas?<br /><br /> I'll take JJ's cock out of my mouth when the cast of Bruno stops running a train on your ass...

  • July 26, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    And unless there's a movie called $9.99

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I've never heard of that was only FOUR Movies...

  • July 26, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives Can't Spell. Ozzy Can't Count.

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Neither one of you gets to Fist Chocolate Woman...

  • July 26, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by OzzyManDiaz

    Your mother obviously drank for two when she was pregnant. $9.99 IS A MOVIE you fucking idiot. Google it fag factory. And no, I dont even like mainstream films and enjoy the works of Fellini, Tarkovsky, Kurosawa and Bergman. Im sure you have never seen any films from directors of that caliber, or if you have, you are incapable of understanding them and what a great film is. The seeds in my shit have a higher understanding of film than you do and I came to this conclusion based on the fact that you even slightly enjoyed Dawsons trek. Also, Im sure your Uncle violated your anus and impressionable mind at an early age, causing semi retardation because Moon isnt in theaters yet, Sphincter. I suggest you call your mother right now. Shes having trouble cleaning up the Cleavland Steamer I just left on her chest before your Father gets home from his janitorial job.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    The Coolest Thing About Star Trek News Is

    by ElvisPresLeeHorsleyHarveyOswaldOprahWinFreeJackHorkheimer

    District 9

  • July 27, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST

    OzzyManDiaz

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Mother Fucking<br />Titty Sucking<br />Two Balled Bitch<br />Your Mama's in the Kitchen<br />Cooking Black Eyed Shit<br />Your Father's in Hell<br />Your Brother's in Jail<br />And Your Sister's On The Corner<br />Yelling "Pussy For Sale!"<br /><br />Now that I've Responded in the Appropriate AICN Grown Up Fashion...;^) <br /><br />I like all sorts of films:Good,Bad and Ugly. In the past few days I've watched DVDs of Network, God of Gamblers, Kelly's Heroes,Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist, Viva Las Vegas, Sylvia, and Hell on Wheels, a documentary about Roller Derby in Austin.<br /><br /> I've seen almost all of Kurosawa's movies. I prefer the period pieces and the Shakespeare adaptations but the modern era stuff is starting to grow on me. Have a copy of The Quiet Duel I haven't gotten around to watching yet. Love Fellini! I've been lucky to see things like City of Women and Fred and Ginger on the big screen thanks to the Rice University Film Series. Still dipping my toes in when it comes to Bergman. And I need to put Solaris on my Netflix queue. The copy I got from the Library kept freezing up.<br /><br />Thanks for the heads up on $9.99. Looks interesting. And I'm sorry Moon isn't in theaters where you are. It's been playing in Houston for almost a month.<br /><br />And I agree with you on Public Enemies. Sorry you didn't enjoy Star Trek. I saw it three times in theaters with family and friends and never got tired of it. The hatred it engenders has baffled me no end. I'm tired of arguing about it. To each his own...

  • July 27, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Star Trek Ten..

    by MajorFrontbum

    ..sucked shit covered dick - plain and simple! It's hollywood garbage and had nothing to do with Star Trek at all.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Shit covered dick

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Happened to be one of the candies in Michael Jackson's Kid fun room at Neverland .

  • July 27, 2009, 2:27 a.m. CST

    I'd rather they make one great movie a year

    by mitortilla

    than a billion g-force, same goes for Tarantino, i the dude made a movie every year they would suck.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST

    GEORGE ROMEREO MAKES A MOVIE A YEAR

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Mostly about zombies! BUT IT'S A MOVIE!!

  • July 27, 2009, 2:35 a.m. CST

    I don't know why that thing posted here.

    by mitortilla

    totally wrong topic.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Romero is senile

    by mitortilla

  • July 27, 2009, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Ass-imov Shits

    by joshuavance1701

    You ignorant unpolished turd sack of shit, your knowledge of anything pertaining to Star Trek is uninformed at best, you inconsequential fuck. <p> You talk about "Emo-Spock" yet Leonard Nimoy was nominated for an Emmy three seasons for EMOTING you flaccid, turgid pile of steaming shit. You hackneyed fuck go watch Enterprise and stay the hell away from anything remotely related to REAL Star Trek. While you're at it you go fuck yourself, you killjoy uninspired anhedonic fucker.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:40 a.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    "I bet people were saying the same about Citizen Kane"<br><br>Wrong. Citizen Kane was extremely well recebed by the critic, by the new audiences who watched it back in the day and it was even nominated for many major awards. citizen Kane was admored as a very accomplished movie... except from Lowela Parsons, a gossip monger who csometime smoonlighted as film critic, and who was the handpocket bitch of Randolph Heast, the media baron (for whom Parson's worked), who took personal agravation of the character Charles Foster Kane,the protagonist of citizen Kane, who did everything in his power to fuck up the movie's commercial chances and then did everythign in his power to force HBO to burn every copy of the movie. they almost suceeded, except that roson Wlees had total control of the movie, including phtography, and he saved copies of the movie for himself, as he was his due thanks to his contract. The movie was also survived because asome projectinist din'd give a shit about their orders to destroy the CK prints, and so many other copies survived as well.<br><br>And to try to equate Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek piece of shit with Citizen Kane is just loonie! Just loonie! You guys should show more respect to Citizen Kane, dammit! You are movie geeks, you have no excuse.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:47 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by AsimovLives

    Sicne i can remember, i always knew Batman. you could say i grew up with a keen awareness of who he was, what he did, and his world. And Batman Begins and The Dark Knight blew my mind.<br><br>The isse really is not if the new movies match with our child nostalgic images of the comics and properties we grw up with and loved. The point is if they aremaking any good movies from them. Just that! Are this movie any good? And regadingthe lastest miserable failed atempt to try to make a Star Trek mivue, which ended in complete artistic failure of the worst stupid kind, no, they didn't made a good movie. It barely can even called Star Trek, for it's more like an unholy hybrid of a bad parody of Star War with the worst teen bullshit stuff found in Felicity and Dawson's Creek.<br><br>The real issue is never, ever, if the movies follow too much soem cannon detailsor not. The issue is always, are the movies good. Dawson's Trek miserable incompetent piece of shit overblown bad TV movie-like nonsense is not a good movie.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:50 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    You Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek fanboys are so silly. It's doesn't matter if the new Harry Potter movie is good or not. Even if that movie was a piece of shit (which isn't), Dawson's Trek woudo still be a piece of shit. The shittiness of other movies do in anyway dimisnish the utter complete rettarded idiotic crap failure of your beloved Dawson's Trek piece of shit.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:57 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    And again, the issue is never that yopu liked that Dawson's Trek piece of shit movie. I don't care if you liekd it or not. That's your business, and none of mine. Realy, i'm hapy you find joy and happiness watching it. I don't approve, but that's nione of my goddam business what you do with your life, and what movies you chose to like ot not.<br><br>The only real issue here is that Dawson's Trek is a retarded piece of shit movie, something that is beyond easy to very and prove. And the major issue is that some people, just because they happen to enjoy their new favorite guilty pelasure, mistake it for a good movie. Just bnecaus you liek it doesn't mean it's good. Not when it has the basic flaws this movie has and shoved at the audience's faces every fucking minute of it's screentime. It's about time you Dawson's Trek fanboys start to understand that what you do is that you like a very bad movie, but you liek it anyway. Godo for you. It's called a guilty pleasure. But that doesn't make it good. This movie is not good, and it doesn't take to be a genious to see why.<br><br>And you ar movie geeks, which means you have no reason and justification whatsoever to drink the kool-aid. Critics who are clueless about SF, yeah, i can understand why some of those morons would drink the kool-aid, most critics mistake all of Sf with Strar Wars, anyway. But movie geeks, there's no excuse. We are movie geeks, we should be above this shit.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:04 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    And there is only one people here who have the power to deny others their opinions: the supervisors of this site who have the power to ban. Nobody else.<br><br>I have no power over you. No power whatsoever. I'm complete powerless in here. so, how could i ever deny an opinion form anybody else? What kind of persecution paranoid compelx bullshit is that? That's nonsense!! Complete nonsense! Is this the final card that the Dawson's Trek use, the persecution complete paranoia? You are being persecuted? What is this, a Monty Python sketch from Quest For the Holy Grail? "Help, help, i'm being repressed! See, the violence inherent in the system??".<br><br> For fuck's sakes, man, give me a break! Stop with the persecution bullshit just because you cannot come up with valid and reasonable arguments to defend your beloved piece of shit Dawson's Trek. You guys sound like the creationists, who cen never find any credible arguemntto support their nonsense bullshit and turn to off the subject curveballs to try to catch the oponents off guard and use melodramatic false issues to the conversation. I'm not that easily fooled, you know? Stick to the topic.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:06 a.m. CST

    Otis_Burg

    by AsimovLives

    If you had enough of me then go suck a lemon and stick your head in the sand, feets up, friend.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:08 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    I bet you can spell in portuguese wonderfully. I'm waiting for your demonstration.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:17 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    You claimed to havewatched Kurosawa movies (you don0't mentioned that you liked them, but i ssupect that was your intention), ans yet you like and defend with tooth and nail that miserable piec eof shit Dawson's Trek? What the hell is wrong with you? don't even try to ome up with the argumetn that you can enjoy different genres. That's a straw argument. The issue is never that. The isue is that you love and defend an incredibly retard piece of shit movie. and yet to claim you love Kurosawa movies! How that fuck van that happen? How can you like the sublime and the shit?<br><br>The only answers to this is just twofold:<br>1- Yuo are lying about liking Kuirosawa movies;<br>2- The most probable answer, you have no descerning standards whatsoever. You watched the Kurosawa movies and didn't learned anything from them. You enjoyed them because thsoe magnificent movies also function on a popcorn enjoyment level. and that's the only thing you took from them, the popcorn level of enjoyment. And you learned nothing from them how exquisite and intelligence cinema made with great artistic integrity looks like. People like you the Dawson's Trek fanboys who claim to like this great masterpiece sof cinema, you just enjoy them on the most superficial level and learn nothing from them. This is why you can claim to enjoy Kurosawa and a retard piece of shit like Dawson's Trek. You just can't learn the lesson, and you are completly unwilling to.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:20 a.m. CST

    joshuavance1701

    by AsimovLives

    I already missed your retarded pseudo-intellectual bullshit. Buit in this case, there's no pseudo-intellectual bullshit from your post because you coudl not find in the Dawson's Trek advertizement borchures the phrases to use for this special subject. It's a bitch then nobody else cannot give ideas for you, isn't it? Left to your own devices, you are quite a nothing. And it' shows.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:38 a.m. CST

    making lots of friends I see M-O-M....

    by just pillow talk

    and disregarding anyone else's opinion as to why they liked the new Trek movie. Everyone I know who saw it enjoyed it as well. I have not seen it, but find it quite amusing that you are attacking it with such vigor. Why is that? Do you really think this is the destruction of modern cinema?

  • July 27, 2009, 7:11 a.m. CST

    The Trek universe is not fit for serious sci-fi

    by David Cloverfield

    They have green blooded mind melding pointy eared, otherwise completely humanoid aliens as a backbone of stories. Not exactly well thought out.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:19 a.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by AsimovLives

    Are you also blindly following the retard bullshit of that idiot Mr Nice Gaius? You know what's called the people who follow the retards blindly?<br><br>I offer you this suggestion: PROVE YOUR FUCKING STUPID ASS CLAIM OR FUCK OFF! How about that, friend?

  • July 27, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST

    David Cloverfield

    by AsimovLives

    You know shit about Star Trek, don't you? You also seem to suffer from an extreme case of lack of imagination.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:25 a.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by AsimovLives

    Yes, i am making lots of friends in here... among the people who really matter. Guess what, some of them even liked Dawson's Trek, but they are not the fanatics like some of the dudes you can find in here, which are easy to point out, they are the ones who try to defend Dawson's Trek and fail miserably anmd try to come up with non-sequitirs and other such bullshit as obfuscation to the real issue.<br><br>So, i'm particular to my friends, i only chose them from the really cool crowd. And you are not proving to be one of them.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST

    MORE TEEN TREK!!!!

    by AsimovLives

    We need so more teen trek with trek people who are so anoying and bitchy and so OMG realistic!! More teen trek OMG THAT SO KEWL LOLZ!!!!

  • July 27, 2009, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Thank god we have AsimovLives to tell us..

    by quantize

    Citizen Kane is 'well executed' My wife tells me the word 'cunt' was used frequently when Shakespeare wrote some of his greatest plays. It's funny how when you read a stream of endless self important, delusional,blithering, bitchy humorless drivel..that word seems the only appropriate description.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:34 a.m. CST

    quantize

    by AsimovLives

    You just described your post above, friend. Are you in a self-hate binge?

  • July 27, 2009, 7:37 a.m. CST

    There is only one type of self-important drivel here

    by AsimovLives

    It's from those who post only to coment on somebody else posts and add nothing to the real subject of the talkback at all.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST

    LESS TALK IN NEW DAWSON TEEN TREK!!!!

    by AsimovLives

    The old tre is like lots of people who talk too much and a lot OMG its so boring!!! New teen trek should be no more talk and more explosions and actiona dn shake- camOMG that WOULD BE SO AWESOME AND THE KEWL LOLZ!!!! No mroe talk, you hear Jar Jar abrams? Only action and simple short dialoigues, so i can follow and understand because i don't go to movies to think OMG that's so corny and NOT KEWL i dont think in skool why i would think for a move LOLZ!!! no thinking and no long talk only action and explosions and shakicam you hear me Jar Jar Abrams LOLZ!!!

  • July 27, 2009, 7:50 a.m. CST

    For the record, I'm with AsimovLives

    by _Palmer_Eldritch

    and to be honest, I really cannot understand why people still have such a high opinion of the "new" Trek. It's a serious question, not meaning to just piss people off: what did you guys get out of this movie? Especially the Trek fans? <p> I honestly believe that once this is out on DVD, the general opinion on this film will shift. Yes, it was fun in the cinema and the awful script got drowned in all the hype. But this film will not stand the test of time.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST

    easy there M-O-M...no need to blow a gasket

    by just pillow talk

    And how are they "failing miserably" at defending the new Trek? They liked it and you don't like the reasons they give as to why they liked it. So therefor they "failed"? Give it a break dude.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tast es

    by AsimovLives

    You rereally don't seem to understand, do you? I bet your opinion of my posts came not from reading my post,s but from the posts of the Dawson's Trek fanboys who are moaning that somebody doesn't eat up all the shit and bullshit they like and are pissed off they were called to task to justify their opinions and they can't.<br><br>And that's the real point, they can't justify their opinions. and their opinion her eis they call Dawson's Trek a good movie,. and they can't explain and justify why they think it's good.<br><br>What is use an opinion if you cannot justify and defend it? You think opiniosn are necklaces, one wears them because it looks good and because of some whim of the moment?<br><br>And we are movie geeks, we need more to our movie opinions then just "because i had fuuuunnnn!!!". some people torture small animals as fun, so excuse me if the "fun" argument is nothing but nonsense i and nobody else should take seriously at all.<br><br>As for eye candy, Dawson's Trek is, to quote from Capt. Kirk himself: "it would be laughable if the image wasn't so ugly". If Dawson's Trek is what passes as eye candy today, then they better close the shop, Hollywood doesn't know what beautiful cinematography is anymore.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives......

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    I agree with what you're saying but bottom line I personally think if there's anybody on this chat that's over thirty (including myself) that disliked this movie are just tired of getting burned, not in a STD kind of way, AT LEAST YOU AN GET A CURE FOR THAT ...well most of them anyway. <p> My point is without sounding like a Troll, you have to pick your poison with this new shit and remember from a demographic stand point this shit just isn't for us anymore. If it was, they would've casted the Shat and did Star Trek Nine or whatever the running number is. <p> It's targeted toward younger audiences, 25 and under. That's why Star Youth 2009 was created, along with a slew of other reboots and remakes. To basically start things over for a new audience, no disrespect intended but it's about stretching, milking so to speak, that dollar for another 20 years and starting over again, with or without your approval. <p> It's like growing up with the Muppet Show and one day you wake up and you're kid or younger brother is sitting in front of the TV enjoying the MUPPET BABIES.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Shut the fuck up AsimovLives

    by ragermac

    You are an annoying little shit. You just want to ridicule this movie. No matter how it turned out, your — stupid fat living in the basement of your parents house ass— would still have something negative to say. This was probably the best trek movie aside from wrath of khan in my book. It had some problems, but so did EVERY OTHER STAR TREK movie before it. But it had action, great characters, it didnt over do the comedy aspects, great pacing. I look forward to the next film. Your arguments sound like the ramblings of a 9 year old. Do this site a favor and just SHUT THE FUCK UP. Stupid ass.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:18 a.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by AsimovLives

    Have you already gave evidence to suport your claim that i'm that M-O-M guy you claim i am? If you haven0't yet, then why you keep calling me that? Are you expecting to get a free blowjob from Mr Nice Gaius, is that it?<br><br>"They liked it" is not an argument. It's a statement of preference. Which means squat. and i already have given some reaons for why Dawson's Trek is retard, not only on other posts but in here as well. But you would be too lazy to read them, would you? And evne if you rad them, you would pretend you didn't understand. Becasue that's what all of you who kiss Mr Nice Gaius' ass do. You are all the same, mindless drone who follow the words of an idiot as if God's.<br><br>Agan, show me the evidence of your claim, or shut the fuck up! It that too hard to understand?

  • July 27, 2009, 8:20 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    He he, what ytou presume of me is jsut a collection of dumb lcijes about geeks, the same way your beloved Dawson's Trek bulslhit movie is a collection of the oldest cliche shit imaginable. So fucking funny!

  • July 27, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Oh, that one deserves a corrected post, for the laughs!

    by AsimovLives

  • July 27, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    He he, what you presumed about me is just a collection of dumb clichés about geeks, the same way your beloved Dawson's Trek bulslhit movie is a collection of the oldest cliché shit imaginable. So fucking funny!

  • July 27, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    some guy up there said "Star Trek ten sucked"

    by Six Demon Bag

    "It's hollywood garbage and had nothing to do with Star Trek at all."<P><P>i agree with that statement

  • July 27, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    just thought id point that out

    by Six Demon Bag

  • July 27, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives, Learn to spell

    by ragermac

    You stupid little retard. Your grammar is worse than a 7 year old. Stupid ass.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    i think TREK was a good film

    by Six Demon Bag

    is it the best film ever made? NO<P>is it the best TREK film ever made? NO<P>but it is in the upper half of the films..id say in the top 60% of them...

  • July 27, 2009, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Complain all you want but deal with it.

    by ragermac

    This is the new Star Trek. It will not go back the style YOU WANTED. That style is what caused the franchise to lose popularity. I would rather have a change to a new style of Star Trek than to have NO Trek at all. You old nerds need to enbrace the new and stop complaining. It won't change anything.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT!!!!!

    by AsimovLives

    Shut up, i don't like that you criticise the worst piece of shit movie made in the last 10 years, because, like, i HAD SO MUCH FUN!!!!!!! IT WAS FFFFUUUUUUUUUUNNNN!!! BEST FUN I EVER HAD SINCE I ALMOST OD OF BAD HEROINE!!!! You ar emakinhjg of in my new favorite BULLSHUIT MOVIE!!! and how dare you criticize SHIT MOVIES, BECAUSE I LIEKD THEMM AND THEREFORE CANNOT BE CRITICISED!!!!! Because I HAD FUUUUUNNN WITH IT! And if i had fun, it cannot be criticised, because MY FUN IS AS IMPORTANT AS GOD!!GODF CANNOT BE CRITICISE AND NOR CAN I!!<br><br>FUCK YOU!!1 FUCK YOU!!!1 FUCKI YOU! FUCK YOU!!! HOW DARE YOU CRITICISE MY FUN???? How dare you!! HOE DARE YOU!! It's fun!! IT'S FUN!!! IT'S FUCKING FUN!!!!! Fucking FUN!!!!! Don't criticise the FUN!!!THE FUUUUNNNNN!!!! AAAAARRRRGGHHGGHGHGH!!! FUCK YOU ALL WHO DOES EAT UP WITH MINDLESS ABANDON THE FUCKING HORRIBLE PIECE OF SHITINESS JAR JAR ABRAMS DAWSION'S TREK FUCKING MOVIE!!! Fuck you all who have standards!! Fuck you all who still want good and smart movies from Hollywood!! Fuck you all who are not contented with extreme dumb retardness. Fuck you all who doesn't eat up mindlessly the advertizment bullshit from the studios!! Fuck you all who doesn't kiss the ass of talentless hacks!!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!! STUPID IS FUN!!! STUPID IS FUN!! FUCK OFF!!!!!

  • July 27, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Asimov, sometimes you do get guys that come in...

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    That have a genuine love for the material. <p> I'm quite sure JJ meant well with the new Trek, It would've been interesting to see what that film would've been like if somebody would've suggested a few more revisions on the script. The movie was all eye candy. <p> I grew up on Star Trek, I know better, but there are people that are truly crazy about this movie, God Bless Em. <p> Hell, I threw 40 bucks into the wishing well on this thing. I have no regrets on that. I saw every last Trek at the theatre It's a nerd boy tradition of mine, I sincerely wanted to love this movie <p> Hopefully, Avatar and Tron Deux will be better.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Wow, you really are a troll

    by ragermac

    Just a mindless attention whore. Why don't you go suck on Roddenberry's ashes in space you stupid little trolling bitch.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:37 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    Oh, i know it0s the NEW Star trek, aka, DAWSON'S TREK. Why do you think i call it DAWSON'S TREK? If i wasn't so well aware it was soemthing new, i wouldn't call it DAWSON'S TREK, would I?<br><br>Yes, it's new, and it's a complete piece of shit.<br><br>Adn what is this nonsense about NO TREK? what the hell is the stuff they made before? That's Star Trek, it stille xists. Had they not made no new Star Trek movie, Star Trek would still be around, it's called the old shows. They woulnd't magically disapear just because the new movie wasn't made, would they?

  • July 27, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by AsimovLives

    I also am sure that Jar Jar abrams ment well with his Dawson's Trek movie. And by ment well, that measn, getting filthy rich by exploiting a brand name and delivering a retard stupid lazy ass patheric pastiche of Star Wars because the fuck can't have any more imagination and creativity then that. Jar Jar Abrams means well by trying to get rich by devivering the cinematic equivalent of a Ford Pinto. In any other business, that would be called FRAUD!!!

  • July 27, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by MorganLeafy

    That was one specimen of a brilliant satirical post. You have quite a knack for wit, Sir.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Well said Kobe

    by toadkillerdog

    M-O-M (or whoever you are pretending to be) get a grip dude. I could not stand Starter Trek, but I do understand people who did. I like movies that others hate, and I am quite sure that you do as well. Big fucking deal. <p> Hollywood has been putting out shit movies for 100 years, JJ's Starter Trek will not change that balance in any way.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:43 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    Hey, wait... you are one of those that uses the word troll to describe people you don't agree with too? You are one of those who don't understand what the word troll means regarding the internet, do you? Figures! I have seen many people like you doing that mistake before. It's quite uncanny.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:44 a.m. CST

    There is nothing worse than old ass men in their 40s and 50s tha

    by ragermac

    I am 40 and sure I have noticed that movies have changed. They changed since my fathers time too, but that is the way it will be. You can bitch and moan like little bitches. It won't matter. If you REALLY want a change, here is what you can do........ Stop going to the movies. Then the movie makers will have to make the movies that YOU WANT right? right? You complainers will talk all that shit BUT you will still give the studios their money so they can make MORE MOVIES THAT YOU DON'T LIKE. Alot of the complaints are based on what YOU grew up on. Who gives a shit. Some of you act like the CLASSICS like Old Star Trek were these masterpieces in cinematography and storytelling. Many of them were mindless shit movies, but bad special effects and wooden acting. But it was because you loved it then because you were a teenager and it was great for YOU so you want more of the same. 20 years from now when there is a new reboot for Star Trek after the world hates the franchise once again, there will be a new generation of moviegoers who will hate the remake and shit on it, just like many of you are doing now. It is a vicious cycle and will never change.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    You know... we all should get together

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    AND MAKE THE BESTEST STAR TREK MOVIE EVER! <p> DAMN you guys are nice and fiery for a Monday Morning. I haven't had my coffee yet.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by AsimovLives

    I don't pretend to be nobody else but who i am. YOU ARE PREDENTING that I am somebody else. And yet you have not delivered any evidence to support your claim. Which means your clam is worth nothing. so better clean your act, friend.<br><br>It doesn't matter that bad movies have been made before, DAWSON'S TREK is still shit. In fact, DAWSON'S TREK might be one of the very wost and dumbest movie ever made. And it's the kind of movie that is hedralding the approach of a new style of movie making, where movies no longer have to fullfill any standard of quality or decency. Thanks to DAWSON'S TREK sucess, the message is now this: amke any shit you like the dumbest the bette,r the people will eat it all up without question. Adn the other messa is that the geeks gave up and they are completly sold out to the bullshit. quality is not a factor anymore, only hype and bullshit. The geeks are now the studio's sheep.<br>><br>So, yeah, it's a big fucking deal.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives, What's the matter miss the little bus today?

    by ragermac

    You stupid retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    For the record,

    by MorganLeafy

    I didn’t like ST all that much either. It really suffered from typical blockbuster third-act fatigue. On the other hand it was painful, just painful, to see one of the so-called Dawson’s kids act circles around Leonard Nimoy.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    I's not a question that the movies have changed. Of course they chanced, that's good. Who would want the same stagnation? That's not the problem. Ther problem is that this year, the studuios made nothing but the most retarded shit imagianble, and they saw fit that's good to selel fr th audiences. The studios are in effect sayingthe audiences are dumb, the geeks are dumb, and they don't deverve anything else but mindless dumb stupid shit done with out any quality control whatsoever.<br><br>The problem is not the changes of time,s but that we got delivered very bad movies, and that some people have turned defeatists and have surrender compeltly to the studios and the worst movies ever made in the last 10 years. And of those, none is a more enlightning example then Dawson's Trek and the enthusiastic reponse that has been going on about this horrible piece of shit stupid movie. I never see surrender like this! People gave up though, intelligence, standards and personal freedom for the sake of the lamest stupidiest shittiest kind of bread and circus imaginable.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    Hey, i replied to you with well though posts,a nd i delivered them with respect. But is that your reply? What he fuck is that bullshit, little boy? Too much though for you to handle, is that it? Mind your manners, child! Or should i start to consider you to be one of the "special cases" as well? Your call, buddy.

  • July 27, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    I Love Reading The Hater's Comments LOL!

    by Real Deal

    It's great comedy! Now there schtick is to say " Well there's still time for everyone to realize we were right and this movie sucks! " When in reality it's made millions of dollars, more than broke even, and most people who view it love it! LOL! I look forward to what ever they do. I'm inclined toward new stuff. But it is wide open so they could do old stories in a new way. But I still prefer a new story.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by AsimovLives

    It is possible to made a good Star Trek moviue. Itr is possible to make a great Star Trek movie. But not from the Jar Jar Abrams/Bob The Orci/The Klutzman mentaliy challenged filmmaking club.<br><br>You know i think it's funny? What's funny is that i'm sure, i'm positive that amny people in here, including the vast majority of the Dawnson's Trek fanboys, could come up with a much better Star Trek movie that that trio of hacks. I'm positive of that.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    The reason why I like First Contact better

    by Series7

    There were no classic lines in this one. There was no, "The Line Must Be Drawn Here!" But I put it second best to that.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    well though posts,a nd i delivered them with respect. LOL

    by ragermac

    Are you kidding? You responded like a little child. Like an annoying little boy is how you responded. Geez, you are so stupid. You forget your own stupid ramblings.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Real Deal

    by AsimovLives

    There is only one type of haters here, the Dawson's Trek fanboys. Those fanboys hate cinema with a passion. Why else would they support such a piece of shit movie?

  • July 27, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    I liked Dawson's Trek

    by Series7

    Its been the only good summer movie I've seen so far. Save for Up and Moon, which weren't your typical summer movies.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Asimov

    by toadkillerdog

    Do you like Shirley Temple movies? Did you knw that at one time her movies were the highest grossing on the planet and she was number one star? Did Hollywood crumble because of that? Uh, no. Movies have been made for a very long time, to be so narrow myopic and obsessive as to think one mediocre Star Trek movie sound the death knell of geek entertainment is to ignore 100 years of history.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    Are you sure all my posts to you were "ramblings"? Are you sure that my posts were only "little child" replies? SHould i start calling you a liar?<br><br>And what the fuck should i call stuff like "Wow, you really are a troll" and "What's the matter miss the little bus today? You stupid retard" but the ramblings of a little child? Cuts both ways, son! Soem peopel would evne call that hypocrisy. now go back and start reading my posts direct to you again and fucking learn to understand what people are trying to tell to you.<br><br>And a troll is not somebody who disagress with you, learn that once and for all!

  • July 27, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Kathryn Bigelow should make the next Trek

    by animas

    Hurt Locker is the only good film I can remember seeing this year.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    animas

    by Series7

    Too bad The Hurt Locker didn't get a full release. I keep waiting for it to get to my state. You think that if a movie gets released in 100 theaters they could at least get one in every state.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by AsimovLives

    Never saw a Shirley Temple movie. But i'm aware of their reputation.<br><br>You are very right in claiming that Hollywood has made shit since the early times. That is very correct. You are totaly right on that. And that doesn't excuse the shitty year we have suffered though. This year is terrible!" This is the worst i have memory. It's one pile of shit after the other. Terrible dumb shitty blockbusters after the other. and the worst of them all, Jar Jar Abram's Dawson's Trek, Which, ironically, gets lauded as the best, which is just something that exhausted my capacity for laughter. It's mind boggling! And worst, it's the easy surrender the geeks done to this shit Dawson's Trek. If anything that is what hurts the most, the mass surrender. We should be better then this. At least that was what i used to think. Seems i was wrong all along and we the geeks are no better then the audiences who only about the movies from what they see in the posters and TV adverts.<br><br>With the surrender to such crap like Dawson's Trek, what seperates us from the others, from the general audiences? NOTHING! We are now sheep. Sad fate, that! Ass: The Movie is just around the conner.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Ass: The Movie just around the corner

    by AsimovLives

    Thanks for that, Jar Jar Abrams.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    WINGS OF DESIRE CRITERION in OCT.

    by Six Demon Bag

    that makes me grin...

  • July 27, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    animas

    by AsimovLives

    Can't wait for The Hurt Locker.<br><br>Katheryn Bigelow, now that's a real filmmaker. What a woman!<br><br>A Katheryn Bigelow Star Trek movie would be beyond awesome!

  • July 27, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Example of a troll. YOU

    by ragermac

    Ass: The Movie just around the corner by AsimovLives Jul 27th, 2009 09:14:03 AM Thanks for that, Jar Jar Abrams. This is a thoughtful intelligent post? YOU ARE A TROLL. And an ass. FACT.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    asimov..

    by Six Demon Bag

    whats the difference between being handed the the last TREK film and the 2 that preceeded it??<P>insurrection and nemesis were pretty cheap episodes strung out to length to make feature films and the producers took our money allthewhile smiling knowing they were giving us inferior products...i find that more insulting than TREK, as well as voyager (watered down homegenous pc crap) and never really watched enterprise...

  • July 27, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed. But to me the best Oct. Criterion news is the release of The Human Condition film trilogy in DVD and Blue-Ray. I saw the first movie of that trilogy, No Greater Love, and it's a masperpiece of japanese cinema. REally, if you dig japanese cinema, and i'm sure you do, try check that out. I'm playing on buying the trilogy as soon as it's for sale. I have been waiting for years would release it. They haven't disapointed.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Japanese Cinema is crap.

    by ragermac

    No one cares about it, except you.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Ass: The Movie

    by Series7

    Me and my buddies in Middle school thought about that idea for a movie. It was going to be two hours of just an ass shaking on the screen, occasionally farting. <P> After its mega box office success it would be followed up with Boobs. Remember that was back in middle school.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    The major difference between the last two NextGen movies and Dawons's Tek is that the two first are misguided movies, betrayed by execution. Dawson's Trek is a mvoie that is, from the ground up, bathed in complete retardness and compelte disrspect for all things intleigence, decency, respect for audiences and pisses and shits on the the namesake saga it pretends to be,long while at the same time makes it's damnest efforts to trasnformers it into a bad parody of anotehr different SF saga, Star Wars.<br><br>The two misguided NectGen movies failed at the execution of it's ideas, but they still respect the milieu they belong. Dawson's Trek pisses and shits on the saga it pretends to belong and tuns it into a bad Star wars movie.<br><br>I'd say the difference is significant.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Yeah I don't know how you can complain about Trek

    by Series7

    When T4 came out in the same summer. That was already a planned trilogy. That movie does nothing original or cool.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    Thanks for proving my point. And nice going erasing any good image you might still had. You fucked youself up beyond all possible recognition. Nice going, fella.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Japanese cinema is crap?!?!?!?

    by Kief_Ledger

    But...it's.... *HEAD EXPLODES*

  • July 27, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Oh, so your ASS: the movie comment is not a trolling post? Pleas

    by ragermac

    So you can prove my point.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    "Japanese Cinema is crap" = Total FUBAR

    by AsimovLives

    No better way for one to completly FUBAR himself at AICN. TOTAL FUCKING FUBAR.<br><br>And this is from a Dawson's Trek fanboy, it's worth pointing out.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Star Trek Succeeded

    by Series7

    In that it made it accessible to non geeks. Something all other Star Trek was never able to do.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Japanese Cinema is crap

    by AsimovLives

    No it's not and any fool could see that. You are reaching at straws.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    And no, my Ass:The Movie post was not trolling. any fol could see that. You are reaching at straws, again.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    For one, I dont give a shit about my image

    by ragermac

    On this insignificant website. You apparently do, you want everyone to treat you like a super elitist movie aficionado. But in reality you are an attention whore troll. You take movies WAY to seriously. Movies are simple mindless entertainment. Waste of time, guilty pleasures. Fuck off and get over it and yourself.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Any Fol? geez, just stop posting.

    by ragermac

    You ramble on, you cannot spell, you can barely put two sentences together, you are pathetic.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    That's a complete fallacy. What Dawson's Trek made is create it's own audience. and it's a testement to that that many are defending that movie by bashing TOS. Dawson's Trek has it's own audience, because Dawson's Trek is it's own thing.<br><br>I'm not a trekkie, and Dawson's Trek didn't made me accessible to Star Trek. TOS made me accessible to Star Trek. That accessible to non-geek audience is bulslhit. Nice excuse, but doesn's cut it. ther weill be many people who will go with Dawson's Trek and will never ass themselves to watch the old Trek. so, where the hell is that accessible thing working?

  • July 27, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    im hearing the star wars comparisons alot..i guess cause there was a lack of the science and technobabble tht we have grown accustomed to all these years...it was fast paced like a lucas film that much is certain and yes the plot does resemble a new hope. but as ive stated civilly before (ha!) i think they were very loving and careful with the characters and universe that they were sculpting anew. they were reverent to what came before yet also rebooted it properly. <P>for the film franchise to continue (and we all knew that it would have to--hollywood doesnt let anything die) this WAS the only way that seemed logical...it was a sequel that respected all that came before it (the past hasnt been replaced) and continued in a new method, a method that needed changing..because the stuff that was happening in the late 90s was tapped out..big time. <P>TREK adapts over time thru the 60s, to the 70s and 80s and into the 90s..now its "their" turn. we dont have to like it, or even accept it..but that doesnt mean its not happening.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Ooohhh ragermac the macho boy!!!!

    by AsimovLives

    Adn yet he's so preocupied to be seen as the new kool-aid drinking member that loves the new retarded and popular Dawson's Trek!!<br><br>The hell you don't give a shit about your image. Your whole posts betray a desire to be seen in the cool, and what better way to be seen in the cool but to defend the Dawson's Tek piece of shit crap movie, so you can prove you belong the popular clique?

  • July 27, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    I wasn't saying that

    by Series7

    It converted people to Star Trek, like they were going to go back and watch The Orginal pilot all the way through Enterprise. I'm just saying they will pay to see a sequel. That will be the true judge of the series. If they just make a simple easy movie then yeah sure they blew it, but if they made a cool trek movie then they did their job. <P> I don't know who you've talked to outside of this site, but they all loved Star Trek. You have to look beyond yourself and everyone here.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    by bashing TOS

    by Series7

    Whats TOS? Sorry don't know?

  • July 27, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by Six Demon Bag

    nope..one is a hyperbole about a film that wont happen..the other is an ignorant statement revealing more about the poster..you figure which ones which.<P>these statements arent helping my cause..fuck off!

  • July 27, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    THe Star Wars comparison is about TEH PLOT!!! It even has the destruction of Alderan and a scene at Hoth!!! That shit is beyond obvious, even non-geeks have pointed that out!<br><br>Isn't this an image for laughs: Spock is Leia in Dawson's Trek! Isn't that so fuckng awesomse?

  • July 27, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Dawsons Trek was "entertaining"...but...

    by conspiracy

    the script fucking sucked. Really. It had decent direction, and a few good performances from the actors...even Pine did a good job at capturing Kirk; but the script was FUCKING WEAK. Worse than weak...it sucked. Orci and Kurtzman are such poor writers I doubt they could script a porn movie.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    ragemac

    by Six Demon Bag

    movies are mindless entertainment...wastes of time? <P>we are done here..thanks, i got your tab..just walk out dude. you are in the wrong fucking site.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Yeah AsimovLives Six Demon is right

    by Series7

    I mean what the fuck did you expect from a new Star Trek? Jane Janeway? Granted Indiana 4 showed us that you can have a cast with everyone over the age of 60 (save for a Shia) and still have a hit movie. <P> But most of the Star Trek crew have not kept themselves in the same shape of Ford. You seen Brent Spiner or Jonathan Frakes recently? Is LeVar Burton even alive? Yes Patrick Stewart and Michael Dorn are still in good shape, and judging by the Countdown prequel comic they were considered for a movie.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    That anyone thinks that Movies are Mindless Entertainment"

    by conspiracy

  • July 27, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    i picked uop the plot too..pike is obi wan and kirk luke in the small farm...yeah but i would say that its only flaw..it wasnt "original" and i know you'll be quick to agree...<P>be kind.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Can Lucas sue the "new" Star Wars?

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

  • July 27, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    You are talking about Star Trek and you don't know what TOS means??? Dude, i'm not the trekkie here, remember?<br><br>TOS = The Original Series. to differenciate from The Next Geenration, and now, from Jar Jar Abrams Dawson's Trek.<br><br>And no, most of the people who watched Dawsn's Tek ar enot goign baklc to the old series, they assume that Dawson's Tek IS Star Tek and they will not explore anything else. Ther eis no new audiences for Star Trek, that's marketing bullshit. All there is now is A BRAND NEW AUDIENCE for Dawson's Trek alone. The TOS remainds the same, and if there's any new people in it, it's because of the TOS merits alone. Like myself.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    You keep AVOIDING what I asked you to do. Put Up or Shut Up. You say we cannot come up with a rational reasoned defense of Star Trek. So I'm asking you to LEAD BY EXAMPLE.<br /><br />You said earlier in this thread that the new Harry Potter sequel was one of the only franchise films this summer that didn't disappoint its audience. I disagree. I ENJOYED the film. But I also noticed ALL of the FLAWS you say PREVENTED you from enjoying Star Trek.<br /><br />Holes in the plot. Unexplained character behavior. Focus on teenage shenanigans at the expense of furthering the story. And "canon" violations including scenes that were in the book but not in the film or changed drastically, and scenes that weren't in the book but are in the film.<br /><br /> If you shouldn't have to read a prequel comic and a bunch of Orci /Kurtzman interviews to understand Nero's actions in Star Trek, then I shouldn't have to read or re-read Rowling's novel to figure out what the fuck is going on with Dumbledore, Snape, Malfoy and the Death Eaters while the director is focusing on the kids making out with each other.<br /><br />I feel like I've already provided plenty of rational, reasoned responses to your irrational unreasonable hatred for Star Trek. You feel I haven't. So please, Oh Great One, show us what you think a rational reasoned defense of a movie is, by defending your enjoyment of Harry Potter and the Half Baked Plot.<br /><br />P.S. While I do enjoy Kurosawa's popcorn action films, if I had to pick only one of his masterworks to save, I'd go with IKIRU. The older I get, the more meaningful Takashi Shimura's quiet dignity, honor and wisdom seem to demonstrate Kurosawa's vision, in contrast to the macho bluster and often foolhardy emotional extroversion of Toshiro Mifune. Mifune is Kirk and Shimura is Spock. :D

  • July 27, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    I work in a job

    by Series7

    Where we make up fucking abbriviations for new shit everyday, sorry if I don't keep up with my Trek lingo.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives, you stupid little ASS

    by ragermac

    You don't know shit about me, so don't act like it. I don't view movies with an overly critical eye. I never said This Trek movie is the best of all movies. I recognize its flaws. Just as EVERY other Trek movie had its flaws, but the movie works well as it is for "this generation of movie goers". But for you, that is being a as you childishly call it "Dawson's Trek geek" Now that is someone who is trying to hard to be cool. You are clearly pathetic. And a troll.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Plus I knew it had something to do with the old stuff

    by Series7

    But I couldn't figure out if it was one of the old movies or what. <P> You hardly speak english, so just fucking answer the question and don't be a douche.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil, great post. But...

    by ragermac

    AsiTroll will not respond intelligently. He will ramble on like an old man in a nursing home. Watch out... Here he comes.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Also if your not a Trekkie

    by Series7

    Why do you care if you didn't like Star Trek? Every Trekkie I knew loved it, they knew it had flaws but it didn't bother them. They want to see another one.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    Ddue,e you are one of the cool guys, and you have always been nothing short of a gentleman. I own you cortesy, and that biull is not goninto get fully payed anything soom, if you understand me.<br><br>You know, the shamelessly steal from Star Wars is bad enough, Thing is, unlike Neil Marshall, a director who can rip off stuff fromother movies but uses them well and cogherently to his own movie, in Dawsons' Trek, you could see the SW rip off stuff was used be "that was so cool, like, that's what Sf is all about, use this" and also, it exemplies a crass lack of imagination. Jar jar Abrams, in one of his most iduiotic moments when he lowered his guard, even admited he new shit about Star Trek but that he'sa major SW fan.<br><br>Adn this what i point my angry finer at Jar Jar Abrams. Becasue his mvoie very well shows that he really doen't understand jack shit or Star Trek, and he deosnt'e ven care! All he cares is to turn ST into Star Wars. Adn by that, he homogenized the two greatest Sf sagas, and now they all look the same. Jar Jar Abrams stole Star Tek's own idendity. And for the sake of turning his own movie into a new SW movie. And that's bad! Really bad!" That's the kind of shit only a very clueless but arrogant git would do. Jar Jar Abrams is stupid like hell!

  • July 27, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives = Memories of Murder

    by just pillow talk

    Because when you got something up your ass and get yourself all worked up, the incoherent jumble of words comes ranting through your posts:<p>"They liked it" is not an argument. It's a statement of preference. Which means squat. and i already have given some reaons for why Dawson's Trek is retard, not only on other posts but in here as well. But you would be too lazy to read them, would you? And evne if you rad them..."<p>Classic stuff you fucking whackjob. Keep up the good work.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    ragermac, you kinda screwed up when...

    by D.Vader

    You just up and declared that "Japanese cinema is crap".

  • July 27, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Also

    by Series7

    Like I said, if Star Trek 2 is justa rehash of Star Wars then it fails. But they did their job with the first ones. Look at The Dark Knight and Spiderman 2, they are far superior then the first one. Both origin stories, same with Ironman, Hellboy. While we don't know about Ironman 2, Star Trek was better then Spiderman 1, Hellboy 1, Ironman, Batman Begins in my book. <P> While that may not be true for everyone and Batman Begins is close with Star Trek I'll need to watch it again. But I know it like it better then those other ones.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    I'm not a trekkie but i like Star Trek. But moe important then anything else, I care about cinema. And Dawson's Trek is the biggest fuck you to cinema i ever seen since last time i saw a Michael Bay movie. It might be even worst then that, and that is someting i never once though i would be saying for the rest of my life.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by AsimovLives

    Prove that or fuck off, stalker boy.<br><br>Or maybe i should call you Mr Nice Gaius!

  • July 27, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    ragermac yeah D. Vader is correct

    by Series7

    If anything Japanese cinema is better then American cinema. There is so much we could learn from Asian cinema. Just watch any Wachowski film, they know whats good about Asian cinema.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    You don't know what intelligence is, and you have proved it many times.<br><br>And it's you who said "Japanese Cinema is crap", and yet you dare to make coments on soembody else intelligence. Irony is a complete strange concept to you, isn't it?

  • July 27, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    That anyone thinks that Movies are "Mindless Entertainment"

    by conspiracy

    Only shows how little the typical human expects from life these days, and how easy it is to keep them entertained. Sure we all have our guilty pleasure...but we at least usually demand some quality when we are eating that cheeseburger.</p><p> There was a time when people used art as a way to not only escape, but to stimulate conversation, perhaps as a way to ponder questions they had not before thought of, or as a way to engage their own imaginations. No longer.</p><p>Today we see the triumph of mediocrity, the dumbing down of the whole my the propagation of the base...the retards and simpletons run the show. They demand easily digested fluff...ceiling mobiles to watch in the mindless state of perpetual adolescence. They do not want to be challenged, they don't want to be taken from their comfort zone, they do not want to think...they want explosions, and tits, and vulgarity on screen to remove them from the fact 99% of them live failed boring lives; just passing time and filling space waiting to die. </p><p> Look at the fucking place...Transformers 2 at over half a billion dollars, Lady Ga-Ga is today's Mozart, and the population is more concerned with sitting in a drunken stupor on their couch watching gladiatorial events on tv, than actually getting out and doing something to improve themselves. Fucking Sad that someone would make that statement but not surprising.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Dawson's Trek is the biggest fuck you to cinema

    by Series7

    Really. Says only you. People may not have liked Star Trek, but only you hate it that much. <P> Then again you will probably say the same thing later on today about G-Force, a week about Funny People, two weeks about G.I. Joe, three weeks about whatever movie comes out in three weeks.

  • July 27, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    well M-O-M...

    by just pillow talk

    besides all the grammatical and spelling errors, and the penchant for declaring that everyone else's opinion is shit, as well as being Portuguese, nope, can't prove a thing.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    You like Neil Marshall? Even Better!<br /><br />Please provide a rational, reasoned defense of why DOOMSDAY is good cinema and a better film than STAR TREK.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives' hyperbole

    by _Palmer_Eldritch

    may well be necessary to counter all the overblown hype that surrounded (and amazingly still surrounds!) this sub-par Trek. <p>Yeah, everyone's entitled to their own opinions blablabla and if you liked it good for you. But I find it hard to believe that people actually think J.J.'s Trek was a good (as in well made, well acted, well written, inspiring AND entertaining) movie. <p> And yes, I know that here's about 10 movies a year (if we're lucky) to which all that would apply. But what I don't get is when people act as if ST were oen of them. <p> Therefore, I think AsimovLives' hyperbolic hate may well be necessary. Fight fire with fire.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    The Harry Potter movie is not called here. This is a DAWSONS' TREK talkback. subject: Dawson's Trek. don't try to deviate the subject, and don't try to escape from the matter here. Nice try but you are not fooling anybody.<br><br>Why you would need me to make an example top you on hoqw you should do your job? Isn't your conviction strong enough for you do do so wiothout anybody's else help or example? Can't you come up on your own why your beloved Dawson's Trek piece of shit movie is so good?<br><br>Who casres if Harry Potter is gfood or not? This is not the placwe to duiscuss that. Dawson' Trek is. So, defend your Dawson's Trek. Defend it. don't pull anymore of those lame delay tactics, it's not working. And if you keep on delaying and don't post, in your next post, waht Dawsons' Trek is good witrh reasonable and rational argumetns, your case will be automatically lost and failed. So, you better think very well what you are going to write next post. and it better be a dawson's trek DEFENSE POST, AND NOT SOME LAME DELAY TACTIC.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Name one Well Acted, well written old star trek movie

    by ragermac

    Please, they were all over acted, one liner movies? Come on. KAHHHHNNNNNNN!!!! KHANNNNNNN!!!! Academy Award winning stuff. Star trek movies have always been cheeze scifi fun.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by AsimovLives

    Adn wherre is the proof of waht you said? Link me to the other MOM guy posts that we all can see his "same" gramamtical errors he did and where he claimed he's portuguese.<br><br>Beside,s i don't understand the revelance of the other fella being portuguese too. Or are you stupdi enough to think there is only ONE single portuguese onlyine inthe whole of Portugal? What, there's not even two portugueses with aces to internet, is that what youa re saying? Are you this thick? That bullshit is xenophobic, you know? You better start thinking before you post, man, you better!!<br><br>And really, offer me the proof, because so far all we have here is your say so. and tha tmeasn bullshit! It's proof that matters not your say so. Or do you think we all should take your word as if it's the word of God himself? You cannot suffer from such hubris, can you? PROVE!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    I would name EVERY TOS movies! Even Star Trek 5 has mometns of good acting and good dialogue. Far superior to the platitudes nonsense infesting Dawson's Trek.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    ragermac--japanese films are crap??

    by Six Demon Bag

    then you dont like film, you like sitting in large groups of people<P><P>take the bus or subway, its cheaper.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    ragermac--KHAN

    by Six Demon Bag

    is well written and well acted BY ALL. find a flaw in the film...please.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Doomsdays is hardly Neil Marshall's best movie

    by AsimovLives

    And even that has more interesting cinema then that piece of shit Dawson's Trek. Even the car is better!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by _Palmer_Eldritch

    Yes, but nobody claimed they were. Whereas with the new Trek, everybody's acting like it were the second coming and SO what Trek needed ans SO much better than that cheesy "old" stuff etc etc. <p>At least ST 2 and 6 had very good scripts paired with decent acting and they were actually thought-inspiring, if a grain pretentious. <p> The hate many people including myself feel towards "Dawson's Trek" is mainly due to the fans treating a pretty crappy at times awfull movie as if it were something brilliant. <p> Also, JJ and writers dumbed down an exisitng, long established franchise and ruined it for me and many others. If they'd just gone out and made a SciFi movie that takes elements from Trek and Star Wars, but does not pretend to be set in any established universe, I'd be all "wasever" about it. But not IF MY CHILDHHOD IS RAPED. <p>... there, I said it.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    Don't you find it frustrating that at your side of the Dawson's Trek argument you have people like ragermac and cymbalta4thedevil? I would compare your posistion with like a religious person who was trying to defend the merits of religionand then have as allies a cretionist and a anti-gay bigoted tele-evangelical preacher.<br><br>Friend, frankly, i would hate to be in your position. Don't take this the wrong way, but man, i kinda feel sorry for you. It's not fair, man!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    The next one's an even numbered flick, so . . .

    by Royston Lodge

    . . . you know it's gotta be good!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    So, now you are attacking me...

    by ragermac

    because I dont like Japanese films. No I dont like them, there are crap. TO ME. did I insult you? Just because I dont like a particular form of art? Am I suppose to like it to be in the cool club like you are? Fuck you. Japanese films ARE CRAP. See how it feels.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    So, now you are attacking me...

    by ragermac

    because I dont like Japanese films. No I dont like them, there are crap. TO ME. did I insult you? Just because I dont like a particular form of art? Am I suppose to like it to be in the cool club like you are? Fuck you. Japanese films ARE CRAP. See how it feels.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    quick reminder for conspiracy and asimovlives:

    by Boborci

    I. Drink. Your. Milkshake.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Demon bag here is a Khan flaw

    by ragermac

    Why doesn't Reliant know that Khan is exiled here? The Federation is so terrified and opposed to genetic engineering that it's still illegal 300 years after Khan. So why is there no warning along with the data on the Ceti Alpha system? Kirk logged what happened with Khan and his solution of marooning him. Starships use nav data to navigate star systems. Ceti Alpha 6 exploded, yet the helmsman or computer never noticed that there is one less planet than there was when Kirk was there? There is no debris from the explosion? Ceti Alpha 5 is the exact same size and was conveniently blown into the exact same orbit as Ceti Alpha 6 used to have? So there is nothing whatsoever to make the crew even suspect that it's not 6? Enterprise would have to have scanned the planets in the system to know that one was habitable for Khan. Did Ceti Alpha 6's destruction somehow magically turn Ceti Alpha 5 into it's exact duplicate? If Starfleet ships have been there to map after Ceti Alpha 6 exploded, none of them bothered to check on the exiles? Pretty callous for Starfleet, don't you think? With the technology and amounts of information available to Starfleet vessels, there is NO logical reason for the Reliant to think that this planet is Ceti Alpha 6. Finally, would the Federation be willing to test a device whose exact effects will be unknown on a planet so close to another inhabited one?

  • July 27, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    ragermac, about Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    See Six Demon Bag? That's a Dawsons' Trek appologist i respect. Because he has never once came up with a lame atempt to throw sand to the eyes of the people with other positions. He never came up with ullshit arguments. He always makes his damn best to offer intelligent opinions. and when he's not offerign opinions, he alwasy does his best to make intelligent and important and pertinent questions.<br><br>And he's never short of a gentleman. I never seen him insult anybody else for petty bulslhit. If he ever raises his tone, is because he has been unjustly agravated.<br><br>Six Demon Bag is the Dawson's Tek apopologist that 99% of the other appologists aren't even worth of licking his feet! Six Demon Bag gets my respect and my friendship anyday of the week. And you Dawson's Trek fanboys better learn from him, if you fucking can! Which i seriously doubt!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    But it was still a good film

    by ragermac

    But dont act like Khan was flawless.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Boborci

    by AsimovLives

    You fucking wish. Let me guess, you think you are being witty, aren't you? Samll wonder you are the talentless idiot who wrote Legend Of Zorro, Tranformers 1 and 2, Mision impossible 3 and Dawson's Trek. It shows! What a fucking loser! Jesus, you are pathetic!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Asimov Lives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I'm NOT the one DELAYING, Asimov Lives.YOU ARE.For eight hours, at this point.<br /><br /> Who cares if Harry Potter is any good? You do. YOU brought it up.<br /><br /> You used it as an EXAMPLE of a sequel in a franchise that YOU enjoyed this summer. So, DO what you say we are incapable of doing.<br /><br /> DEFEND your enjoyment of Harry Potter.<br /><br /> EXPLAIN what you like about it.<br /><br /> COMPARE and CONTRAST it with what you see as Flaws in Star Trek.<br /><br />Provide a RATIONAL, REASONED RESPONSE to the Flaws in the film that I have already addressed in 2 Previous Posts.<br /><br />I defer to your expertise in these matters. Please, SHOW US what you think WE'RE DOING WRONG, by TAKING YOUR OWN CHALLENGE.<br /><br /> No Excuses.<br /><br /> PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives, LoL you really are delusional

    by ragermac

    I dont know or give two shits about Six demon bag or any of you fuckers. But you still are an annoying little trolling asshole. All you care about is your own opinion and everyone else is shit. That is why you suck ass and will continue to call you a fucking troll everytime you post shit like you have been posting. Go fuck yourself.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    God, i have to do your work for yourself? You didn't even picked up on Star Trek 2 major plot hole flaw: That Khan recognizes Chekov. Which would be impossible. becasue at the time of Space Seed, Chekov was not yet a member of the Enterprise crew.<br><br>This is so pathetic about you dawsn's Trek appologist fanboys, evne the other guys have to do the work for you. u guys do relect quite well the level of intelligence found in your beloved Dawson's Trek. You guys are a disgrace to your cause!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    This is one of the most pathetic Talkbacks I've ever seen.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    And AssimovLives deserves a trophy for the BIGGEST LOSER ON THE INTERNET.<P>I've never seen anyone waste AICN's bandwidth on one singular topic as egregiously as him. It's beyond sad.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Harry potter = Harry Dawson

    by ragermac

    Talk about a shit movie. Asitroll like Harry Potter? BWAHHHH!!!!!!!! talk about mindless hollywood shit movies. I am so glad that another shittier movie beat harry potter this week. Fucking guinea pigs. lol

  • July 27, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    OK, it's official, you lost. Nice chatiing with you, but you have brough nothign worth to the talbe, other then lame delay tactics that served your cause nothing. The ball was in your side and you didn't took the chance to do soem good with it. Too bad. I rest my case.<br><br>Too bad we meet in such circunstances, i'm sure had it been in different ones, we migth had been fast friends. See ya later.<br><br>but don't take me as unkind. If you ever decide to come up with reasonable rational arguments for why i should mistake Dawson's Trek for a good, you will get my full attention, i promise you that. Until then, bye-bye.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius aka just pillow talk

    by AsimovLives

    You still haven't shown the proof of your claim. How much more do i need to wait? A century? And really, when you will come to a talkback and post soemthign that's about the talkback's subject, insteasd of your anoying stalking? Becasue if there is anynbody here who truly deserves to be called a troll, that's you. Fucking useless parasite!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Check this out:

    by AsimovLives

    "That is why you suck ass and will continue to call you a fucking troll everytime you post shit like you have been posting. Go fuck yourself."<br><br>Truly the posting of a mature and intelligent person... not! Small wonder he rates Dawson's Trek so highly and Star Trek 2 The Wrath Of Khan so low. It's showing.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Nice try but just pillow talk is his own man and an honored member of the CoC. Any issue you have with him, you can address with him personally. He's more than capable of sifting through your bullshit.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Asimov Lives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    You can use APALOOSA if you want. We both enjoyed that. But according to you, it's not enough to enjoy something.You have to defend it. So defend APPALOOSA. <br /><br />Is it a Truly Great Film, worthy to Rank with the works of John Ford and Howard Hawks? EXPLAIN Why or Why Not.<br /><br />Is it a Noir Western like Anthony Mann's work with Jimmy Stewart? Or does it fall more into the violent revisionism and mythbusting of Peckinpah, Altman and Arthur Penn?<br /><br />Where does it fall on the continuum of the lean storytelling of Budd Boetticher and the operatic cartoonishness of Sergio Leone?<br /><br />Pretend I think APALOOSA was fuckingretardeddumbshit. Provide a rational, reasoned response why I'm wrong.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Boy, the Trek talkbacks really bring out the pissy haters

    by jackofhearts29

    It's great fun to watch their heads explode yet again at the mention of Trek 2009. All the fanboy anxieties are in full display: homophobia, misogyny, fear of the new, fear of the young, fear of the attractive, fear of the popular, paranoia, elitism, anal-retentiveness, Aspergers, fear of emotion, Roddenberry worship, fear of mythic themes, misguided belief that Trek was ever actually "hard SF", bad spelling; all topped off with a 35-year-old basement-fermented blend of mild racism, vagina-phobia, and acidic piss. Bring it on, haters! Your fear of irrelevance powers us! Saturate us with your cleansing disdain! Meanwhile, J.J. Abrams goes to bed on a pile of money with the blowjob of his choice tonight, and millions of us enjoy the memories of a Trek that, at last, didn't suck.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    No, i fully reserve "Dawson's Trek is the biggest fuck you to cinema" ONLY to Dawson's Trek, and to Dawson's Trek only. The other movies are just stupid usless bullshit that are pretty unimportant on the grand scheme of things. But Dawson's Trek, that is indeed the biggest fuck you to cinema there is right now. I never denied that Dawsons' Trek is important.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    jackofhearts29

    by AsimovLives

    There is only one type of haters in here, the Dawson's Trek fanboys, for they truly hate cinema, as exemplfied by their love for Dawson's Trek.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Boborci

    by Series7

    Make it rain! <P> AsimovLives you are a fucking idiot. You will rage against everything all the time. You sit here on your high hat of greatness from nowhere. You are nothing. Your upset your original screen name was taken away. I've actual seen you have a semi conversation with people, today not being one of them. You just got f'ed in the A by the creator of what your shitting. All you can come back with a typical fan boy spewage of filth. <P> At the end of the day Boborci laughs his ass off to the bank, while Memories Of Murder is just a sad Portuguese boy.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    the biggest fuck you to cinema there is right now

    by Series7

    yeah as of Jul 27th, 2009. Come back in a week and you'll be saying the same thing about Funny People. Or Terminator 4 I don't know what the release schedule is for the third world country you live in. <P> Not only is your argument week, your about a month or two too late for anyone to really give a shit. Come back when the DVD is released.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Oh, and AssimovLives...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...considering that I already posted my thoughts on STAR TREK a few MONTHS ago (!!!), I'll post on whatever the fuck I want. For the moment, that's you and this apparent colossal waste of time (correction: your life) you've put on display in this Talkback.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    Why should i defend Appolosa? This is a Dawson's Trek talkback, we should stick to discuss ONLY that movie here. I'd love to sing the praises of Apoolosa, but this is not the place. It's infair to do so. I already have betrayed the intention of this talkback with how much i already talked about Appolosa. Enought!<br><br>We should only be talking merits and demerits of DAWSONS' TREK and nothing else. I'm certain you do understand that. As such, i'm still wiating for at least ONE arguemnt to why i should mistake Dawson's Trek for a good movie. Please do that! Pleeeeeeeeease? With sugar on top? And a cherry?

  • July 27, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Boborci drinks AssimovLives' milkshake.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    He drinks it up! EVERYDAY!!!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Apoolosa sucked

    by Series7

    Never seen it, but my source for westerns says it sucked. That Rene Zewigger ruined it. I trust his opinion, he is old and alive when real western movies where made.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Doomsday just came out in Portugal

    by Series7

    That's why he is talking about it.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Yeah, right, you did, of course! Like, one simple phrase saying whatever dumb shit creossee your mind. And then was back to stalking me.<br><br>What you don't fucking understand now is that EVERYBODY here already noticed that you are my stalker. you do nothing in her ebut stalking me. E_verybody already knows that~. you have even been dereted and criticised by other talkbacks for that, people like southafricanguy, Six Demon Bags and Cobra-Kai, to name a few. That's how you are known here, as the stalker. That's the only thing you are here, and nothing else! Is that how you want to be seen? Is that what you want? That's very fucked up, you know? You ar enot doing any grat service to AICN, you are just being an anoying stalker who has crossed the line too many times to count already. Don't delude yourself, you are not impotant, and you are nothing on your own. That's bad!

  • July 27, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Aintitcoolnews needs a Fight Club....

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    There I said it, <p> This particular match would focus on the people who liked the new Star Trek Versus The guys who Didn't. Pick teams, we can meet up in a shady, outpost bar along the Mexican border, in the basement. <p> You can even bring weapons of choice, chains, baseball bats and signed copies of JJ'S Star Heck. <p> Then, we will get to the bottom of this shit once and for all. <p> It will be awesome, The God of War would look down upon us and smile as blood is spilled in honor, in the name of the Enterprise. <p> If the guys who liked the new version wins.... They get a similar sequel. <p> If the guys who didn't like it win, JJ goes back to the drawing board. <p> Of course we would have to youtube it so the Hollywood execs can witness all the carnage on display for this material first hand as eyes are plucked from they're sockets and limbs fly around the room. <p> Nothing personal with none of you guys, But I would have to side with Asimov, that guy gotta lot of passion and aggression built up there, I respect that, I think he would be like a Tazmanian Devil in a street fight.

  • July 27, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Doomsday just came out in Portugal

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed. But i already saw it, though other means *ahem*

  • July 27, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives,YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE

    by ragermac

    You are so use to your own ramblings you failed to realize that I said that Trek was NOT better than KHAN. But you just want to win arguments and be Mr cool movie guy. You are an asshole and a troll. Again, go fuck yourself.

  • July 27, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    orci

    by animas

    seriously, why are you staying in the movie business after the financial success of transformers and trek? this is not meant to be an insult but your work has never been about quality, creativity or art... so what is your motive?

  • July 27, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Asimov Lives

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Anyone who's read the other Star Trek talkbacks knows I've ALREADY gone into exhaustive detail defending this movie and my enjoyment of it. <br /><br />It's amusing to see someone who's clearly TYPING FASTER THAN HE'S THINKING asking other people to provide rational, reasoned responses to angry diatribes, vitriol and character assassination.<br /><br /> You have no problem spelling words with six or seven syllables, but then you type and as adn and just as jsut because you're foaming at the mouth. SLOW DOWN and do what you say we're not doing. You're acting like the Emo Teenagers you're making fun of. Be articulate and intelligent about what you like or dislike. And have a sense of humor. I don't think you're stupid. I just think you're way too angry. You should be hoping they make a better film next time instead of condemning them to Hell for making this one.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by AsimovLives

    I demand i different conditions for the anti-Dawson's Trek victory. This side wins, Jar Jar Abrams is flogged for ciems against cinema, foced to watch TOS until the fucking understadn what ST really is aall about, thenhe would had his ass fire through a cannon and send to the Lost island ALONE and let him rot there for the rest of his life. Then hire a real talented director who can actually direct, and let him rebott Star Trek as an intelligent, thoughful, well made exciting space adventure movie that hommages and honours TOS and everything that Gene Roddenberry stood for.<br><br>If the pro-Dawson's Trek wins, they get an ice cream, because there already is going to be another Dawson's Tek movie that is following the same formula.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    You are the epitome of the Classic Creepy Internet Guy. You spend un-godly amounts of time criticising the same things (over and over again) while lashing out at those who disagree with you.<P>The reason why myself and about a dozen other Talkbackers single you out is because you've been identified as a seriously disturbed individual who provides us with endless bemusement.<P>You're a fascinating trainwreck, Assimov/BRU/MOM. But like all trainwrecks, you're sad and tragic all the same.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by Series7

    You obviously didn't see Mira Jeff fight Uwe Boll. You Tube it or watch the movie Heckler.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    "TYPING FASTER THAN HE'S THINKING"

    by AsimovLives

    That's only half the problem, friend. For some reason i can't repair, there's constant pops up in my computer. Everytime one happens, it stops my tipings. This is why in so many of my posts phrases are incomplete and broken. In th words of Lord Bale, it's fucking distracting!

  • July 27, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    The saddest thing about

    by Series7

    All those nerds getting their ass handed to them by Uwe, was that none of them had even seen any of his movies. They were just like, I don't have to see them to know they suck. <P> Same probably holds true for people who hate the new Star Trek.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    How can i be the creppy when it's you whoa re the stalker?<br><br>And by the way, where is the proof, the evicence to suport your claims? why you keep on delaying that? Or could it be that you are making claims without proof? You know what they call to people who make claims they cannot proof? Liars. Did you know that is evn a crime? Indeed it is, it is a crime, the crime of difamation. Think about it.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    No, Asimov, you are just retarded.

    by ragermac

    Don't blame it on the computer. You are too stupid to get rid of pop ups? lol.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Unfortunatly for me, i did saw Dawson's Trek, for my sins!

  • July 27, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Series7

    See your fighting a losing battle. Star Trek was a hit, the majority wins. There will be a sequel. Its not like you can send shit to a movie company to get them to stop making money. Once a movie becomes a hit its almost pointless to care. Its like pollution, what can you do help? You can start with the man in the mirror, I'm asking him to make a change.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I get along with Six Demon Bag and Cobra-Kai just fine. I've even had pleasant exchanges with southafricanguy. Don't black ball them in some pathetic attempt to co-opt them to "your side" you liar. Your sad attempts to lable someone a stalker is just evidence to the fact that you can't deal with someone (DocPazuzu, Lost Jarv, Series 7, toadkillerdog, and MANY others) who has consistently called you on your bullshit.<P>THIS IS AICN TALKBACK. Grow the fuck up, man.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Proof that Star Trek is good.

    by Series7

    Where is the Proof beyond the fact that its similar to Star Wars that its bad. <P> You can't sit there and go, well Star Trek 1-6 were better because I said so. <P> Show me technically where Star Trek is bad. Give me some dialog that was bad, some special effects that didn't work? <P> Explain to me what is J.J.'s deal with digging into shit and blowing it up?

  • July 27, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    In my position, you wouldn't either. 3 different peopel tried everything, including the things that are crossing your mind right now on how to block pops ups, and it failed. It's soem viral shit that's very sophisticated and elludes most firewalls and ad-aware type protection softwares. So much for your dumb little smart assery.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Boborci

    by Series7

    Actually maybe you can explain JJ's fascination with digging into planets/asteroids and then blowing them up? Is it some weird sexual innuendo? <P> Also if Lost ends with Hurley having to dig into the center of the island and then drop a bomb....I guess I should have seen it coming.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    lol, cut the shit asshole. I work with computers

    by ragermac

    So you can't play me like that. You really have to be a dumb ass, porn surfing, download everything asshole to get hit with a virus so bad that you can't get rid of pop ups. Really, no joke, you must be mentally challenged.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Man I'm Dehydrated

    by Series7

    I just took a piss and my pee was so dark you couldn't even see through it. Just a little FYE.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Series, that actually happened?

    by theycallmemrtibbs

  • July 27, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    The proof? We've already spelled it out for you many times. Hell, DocPazuzu nailed you to the wall in such detail that you couldn't even address his posts.<P>The fact that you continue to act as if no one was smart enough to figure it out is insulting. And that's the biggest problem with you = the fact that you think you're smarter than everybody else...even when you're getting your ass handed to you.<P>BTW - you already know that when someone gets banned that their entire posting history gets removed from the site. That is the reason why your previous posts as BladeRunnerUnit and Memories-Of-Murder are not visible here. (How convenient for you!). But there are ways of finding them as many of AICN's longstanding regulars have discovered...

  • July 27, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Yes, the peopel who get along very well write exactly like you do. Same exactl though, saem exact way of writing, same writing style, same phrase structure. Yes, you "guys" are all very much alike. Too alike. And one poping up right at the the moment the other needs the most support, like the fucking cavalry. Jeee, i wonder why?

  • July 27, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Proof is not say so, ylu stupid idiot. Proof is evidence, that can be shown, that can be read or seen by everybody. Proof is not your say so. Or you think we should take your word as absolutly truth just because you say so?<br><br>God, you cannot be that stupid!! You cannot be that stupid!!<br><br>Deliever the proof, not your say so! PROOF! EVIDENCE! Or fuck off! You should be ashamed of yourself, you stupid idiot!

  • July 27, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Too much beer?

  • July 27, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    Not mentally challenged enough to mistake Dawson's Trek for a good movie, that's for sure.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    khan knew chechov...

    by Six Demon Bag

    that can be easily explained...just because you didnt see him on the bridge in the first season doesnt mean he was there and just because we didnt see him in space seed doesnt mean nothing happened in between. the audience didnt see it...<P>besides the new TREK says that chechov was on the enterprise..so there..<P>reliant not knowing about khan and his crew was because it was the wrong fucking planet..ceti alpha 6 was what they were looking for..that exploded, knocked ceti alpha 5 for a loop...for them not being checked up on, who knows? maybe kirk never told anybody after the ep and starting eyeing rand again. maybe the federation was doing other shit and there was a backlog..whatever...thats not really a plothole...more a contrivance...<P>that would be saying--yeah right a star destroyer captured tantive IV right above tatooine and let the two droids escape into the hands of an old jedi and the son of their dark lord of the sith.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    But you think Harry Potter is good, so....

    by ragermac

    are really retarded and you can't get rid of pop ups. My nephew can get rid of pop ups and he is 8, so you are retarded. No wonder you are continuing to ramble on about a movie that came out months ago.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs

    by Series7

    Yeah it did. Like 4 geeks went up against Uwe and none of them lasted a round. I think some back out and most didn't last a minute. Its worth renting the movie movie Heckler just to see it.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Thank you, I didn't know this movie existed, It looks awesome will be checking this out.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    No not beer. In fact I haven't had a beer in over a week. Trying to keep the weight down, under 300 I get married this week.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    yeah i feel bad for myself sometimes..when i get lumped with jackasses like them..cymbalta i dont have a prob with though..<P>sometimes i think why bother and maybe i should just shut my mouth, but then i realize it is possible to have intel convos on here from time to time..you just gotta know your boys.<P><P>ragermac..he backpeddled on the jap films comment real quick didnt he? theres a diff than saying JAPANESE FILMS ARE CRAP. instead he should have said. I DONT LIKE JAPANESE FILMS. big diff. <P>ok back to work..god i dont feel like working today.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    @ Six Demon Bag

    by Tigger11

    I'm not sure you understand what you are saying about Star Trek being a Top 5 for the year. Its basically at position 5 now, (position 3, with HP & The Hangover both about to pass it), for it to be a Top 5 on the box office this year it has to not get beat by any of the upcoming movies opening over the next 5 months, that doesnt seem that likely, maybe that will happen, but I wouldnt bet on it. Lots of movies coming up and Star Trek is not significantly adding to it total, (it was 17th this weekend)). -Tig

  • July 27, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    How is that different? Bag

    by ragermac

    Japanese films are Crap = I dont like them. How is that backpeddling. THIS is backpeddling. Japanese films are crap, and then well, some japanese films are ok. Just stick to you love fight with Asitroll ok?

  • July 27, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Oh, fuck off Assimov.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Seriously, fuck you up your stupid ass. You're obviously blind to the other discussions taking place on this site or the loose network of like-minded Talkbackers who have made notice of your trademark assholery. So, your little same person theory holds no water whatsoever.<P>Keep getting worked up on the "proof". Watching your typing and spelling go to shit is just a prime example of how you start flailing when pressed.<P>What a sad, sad boy you are. Maybe you should step away from the computer for awhile and take a time out.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    How is that different? Bag

    by ragermac

    Japanese films are Crap = I dont like them. How is that backpeddling. THIS is backpeddling. Japanese films are crap, and then well, some japanese films are ok. Just stick to you love fight with Asitroll ok?

  • July 27, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Nobody denies that Dawson's Trek is a major box offcie hit. But even in that regard there has been a bit of misinformation. Wordlwid,e the movie has not made much mroe then Terminator 4 and wolverine, the two movies that the Dawson's Trek have been using as proof of it's sucess. I suscpet that while Dawson's Trek might had been a very big hit in USA and UK, the rest of the world is not floowing the lead, and had collected more humble gains.<br><br>I think that the idea of the massive sucess of Dawson's Trek is a moe localized phenomenum then previously understood.<br><br>But no matter, the movie made bank, enough for talks of sequels, which i'm sure are as inevitable as the rain being wet.<br><br>Of course, box office talk in the end means not much, not for what we geeks should stand for. Box office is only a measure of popularity, not quality. Many bad movies have been sucessful in the past, many good mvoies have failed in the box office in the past. Those things should not concern us.<br><br>Learnign of the box office result of Dawson's Trek will not in any way diminish my opinion of it. It will not make me more easily accepting. It changes nothing. the only thign that remains is that Dawson's Trek is a terrible movie, and box office doesn't change that. My opinion f that mvoei is only regarding it's lack of quality, and nothing else. all else is jsut curiosities that i'll forget a few minutes afterwards. Completly unimportant.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Yes, i'm mistaken by an asshole... by assholes, like yourself. Big fucking deal, me my balls temble!<br><br>I demand proof as i should. you make a supit claim,,you better prove,or else you are nothing but a liar, which you are. Liar. Fucking liar. No evidence showing liar. a prick who thinks he can accuse others of anything that crosses his deseased mind and acts chocked that he the burdeon of proof on him. Fucking stupid beyond belief! You're a retar,d and nothing you can say changes that, you stalking slug! Why don't you go create a personality of your own, and then come here and post about the subhject at hand, instead of being somebody else's leech? Make yourself useful, you fucking idiot!

  • July 27, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    You not liking japanese movies don't make them crap. You just don't like them, that's all.<br><br>I don't like Casablanca and yet that's a great movie. The fact i don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. It's not, it's a classic, it's a very well made movie, it's brillant. And i don't like it much. There is a difference here that i think is very important.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by Series7

    nice double post? Never seen a break inbetween. Then again I had a double post that were like 12 hours apart before.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    sorry for double post.

    by ragermac

    I am hitting one time. (i think) lol

  • July 27, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    "ok back to work..god i dont feel like working today."<br><br>Envy me, i'm on vacations now. But only for this week. Next week, it's bakc to the sweatshop.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Of course ST is a hit.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    Look at Transformers 2. It is a hit also. Made a bunch of money. Made more than ST. Still, it is a bad movie. People love to be spoon fed mindless, fast paced movies. That is what we can expect from these people. To be honest I cannot remember what both movies were about. Both were unorganized with plot holes galore. And if you want to think that whoever has the best box office is the better movie then Transformers wins.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    They are Crap to ME. And that was my point...

    by ragermac

    in the post i made about them i also said that is my opinion, but it wont change the way others view those movies. You will not change the way millions of people feel about the new Trek movie.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Star Trek Box office

    by Series7

    Yeah I knew it wasn't a hit over seas. I guess Star Trek as a whole isn't big overseas. I always found that funny, because Star Trek speaks of how in the future Earth will be united and their will be peace. I guess its because in Star Trek is too American heavy. How come everyone speaks english sort of thing. Why is it none of the aliens never learned German or Portuguese? <P> It's always funny to see what the world loves compared to America, Adam Sandler I'm looking at you.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    But seriously Assy, get some help.

    by ragermac

    You are mentally challenged.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by AsimovLives

    And you are right, cymbalta4thedevil is actually alright. I have been a bit uinfair to him, but in true i do sympathise with him. I do have soem respect that has not been abated by our converstions. I do think that had we meet in some other talkback, we would had been fast friends. I just wished he had not gone on useless tangents and had stuck to the subject at hand. I don't understand why some supporters of such movies like Dawson's Trek do this. It doesn't serve their porpose anything and just deviates the talkback from the thing that it should be about. I do get pretty railed up when that happens, i'm affraid.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    ragermac

    by AsimovLives

    Coming from you, that's a compliment.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    AssimovLives = Crybaby Loser

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Whatever. Keep wasting your life talking about STAR TREK, Bob Orci, J.J. Abrams, and Michael Bay. If only the countless hours you've spent on them could be donated to someone in need.<P>What a waste.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Star Trek is huge overseas. Dawson's Trek itself isn't. There's a difference.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    And all I said about Box Office

    by Series7

    Was that it earned enough to get a sequel. It wasn't like it's teetering on the idea of a sequel or not, and if you hate it enough it will go away. No matter what you do a sequel will happen, and its up to the sequel to be the better movie. Sequel's aren't crap anymore, movies are now set up mainly to fucking promote the sequel (look at Ironman 1). Movies have sequels already in the works before the movie comes out (T4). So judge a franchise not by its origin story, but by its sequel. Film goers are stupid, they need to be fucking told every time there is a new Superman that he is an Alien from Krypton. <P> Just like they needed to be told the Scotty says "i've given it all she's got", or that Bones says "i'm a doctor not a fluffer", and so forth and so on.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    I just have only this to say to you: SHOW THE EVIDENCE OR FUCK OFF.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Star Trek is not huge overseas

    by Series7

    Not in the way it is here. Look at all the old movie Box office numbers.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Asimov, I say this with all due respect...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...but you've gone full-retard in here. You don't like Dawson's... er, Star Trek. That's cool, man, but this jihad you're waging against the movie, you've gone way past anything remotely resembling reason. <p> I'd paraphrase one of your own statements in this TB... "You not liking (J.J.'s) movies (doesn't) make them crap. You just don't like them, that's all." Agree to disagree, man, for the sake of the children.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    If Star Trek were huge overseas

    by Series7

    The Next Generation movie would be bigger hits, especially since their cast has some famous Europeans in it.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    A Couple of Things I Liked About Star Trek

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    The Opening Sequence: George Kirk's sacrifice and love for a son he would never see (and we've been seeing for 40 years) hit me like a ton of bricks. Maybe it's because I was sitting next to my own son who had just graduated from college, but I actually teared up. Make fun of me all you want, but that's good filmmaking.<br /><br />Spock Prime: Nimoy knew this script gave him a better sendoff than StarTrek 6 or Unification. Spock is finally at peace with himself.He is balanced perfectly between logic and emotion and sees the value in both. His quietly expressed sadness to Kirk and hopeful advice to his younger self were Nimoy at his best. Anybody who doesn't like those scenes doesn't like Star Trek. And doesn't realize Nimoy's subtlety as an actor was always the perfect counterpoint to Shatner's grandiose scene stealing and Kelley's comedic cantakerousness. Nimoy made the franchise work, no matter how goofy the script or silly the scenario. He makes us Believe.<br /><br />Karl Urban's McCoy: While everyone else was going out of their way NOT to mimic or imitate the actors who had previously inhabited their characters, Urban nailed EVERY thing we've ever loved about DeForrest Kelley. The quirks. The mannerisms. The voice. The eyes.It's like he was channeling the SPIRIT of the man. He loves Star Trek more than anyone else in the cast. It was a great character actor honoring the work of another great character actor. If you didn't smile everytime Bones was on camera, I truly feel sorry for you. <br /><br />THE PLOT: I love everything about it that the Haters hate. I love that it moves quickly and demands that you pay attention. I love that it never slows down and puts everyone around a conference table to come up with a technobabble solution. I love that Nero is a mysterious figure. We don't know what he wants or why he wants it or where he's from or where he's been. And even when we DO know, we still have questions. He never becomes The Talking Killer who explains everything to give you time to not be killed. He's not a Bond Villain. He's going to destroy the whole fucking Federation if he has to. There's no time for a "rational, reasoned defense" of why he shouldn't. This Crazy Romulan just Fucking Destroyed Vulcan! How are we going to stop him from doing the same thing to Earth? That's an exciting scenario to throw into the hands of some wet behind the ears Starfleet cadets. If you're not cheering when they put aside their differences and come together to save the day, how can you call yourself a Star Trek Fan at all?<br /><br />Have fun shooting down what I loved about this movie. Explain rationally and reasonably why you disagree. I'll catch up tonight when I get off of work.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    ragemac

    by Six Demon Bag

    saying japanese films are crap is pretty defintive..there is no leeway...you didnt say i think or anything..you made a statement of fact like the sky is blue. coming around later and saying i dont like them is backpeddling, but then again, i think the first statement was posted just to get attention and piss asimov off..

  • July 27, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    tigger11

    by Six Demon Bag

    UP transformers 2, HP6, and hangover and trek will be the top 5 of 2009..what else is there..oh fuck! AVATAR! top 6. <P>my bad.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    cymbalta...

    by Six Demon Bag

    also another i loved about TREK..<P>the way uhura tried to console spock and she was so distraught, she had to be for both of them...

  • July 27, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Your first paraphraph just repeats what i said before. Yeah, i know that Dawslons' Tek will get a sequel. And of course i cannot do anything about it. Why i would ever think i could? That's fucked up!

  • July 27, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    As the wise man once said, FUCK THE CHILDREN!

  • July 27, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    ebonic

    by just pillow talk

    He can't. It's not in his makeup to not put down everyone's opinion of a movie that diverges from his own. <p>It's all the pop up's fault!

  • July 27, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Continentalop

    I haven't seen JJ's Star Trek, but why do you hate them so much? Because the deviate from Star Trek continuity so much? Why?

  • July 27, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by toadkillerdog

    It is a specious argument to keep demanding that TB'ers show 'proof' that you are the late and unlamented TB'er M-O-M. You know damn well that when someone is banned, all of their posts go with them. I actually hate that aspect of banning because although the Tongue Cleaner in question probably deserved it (though not always)it would be nice to see what caused it. Still, even if some of your...er. M-O-M's posts still were extant, just comparing the two of you would not be enough. I mean, just because both of you are from Portugal, and both of you hate Bay and Abrams, and both of you have a hard on for Bladerunner, and both of you mangle English at times (although to throw you a bone, I find it commendable that you can read and write in a second language), and both of you are condescending when it comes to people whose tastes differ from your own, well that in no way would be enough evidence to suggest that you are the Tongue Cleaner formerly known as M-O-M. <p> In a country the size of Portugal, there are bound to be three or four people who share the exact same taste in movies, and demeanor, and who love psoting on AICN. <p> Bound to be.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    That's what i'm talking about! That's how you do it! Kick ass!! Why took you so long? Now we are in business, you and me. Now that's fun!<br><br>Ok, what i'm going to do below is, i'm copy and pasting your paragraphs and respond accordingly, agree or disagree, OK? Here we go:<br><br>"The Opening Sequence: George Kirk's sacrifice and love for a son he would never see (and we've been seeing for 40 years) hit me like a ton of bricks. Maybe it's because I was sitting next to my own son who had just graduated from college, but I actually teared up. Make fun of me all you want, but that's good filmmaking."<br><br>The thing i dislike about the opening is that the sacrifice is so personal. It's one of the things that have irritated me the most about holylwood movis today is that for a hero to act he has to have thing became personal. I would ad admired Kirk's dad sacrifice if he had do so fo the sake of people when knows nothing about. Everybody sacrifices for their dear ones. But only heroes sacrifice for total strangers. Remember the firemen at 9/11, who went into the WTC building? then went there, knowing that was imient danger of ruin, and yet they went, to save the lives of strangers. That's true heroism. To sacrifice to a dear one is to be applaude,d but it's not particulary heroic, everybody woudl do it. Sacrifice to strangers, that's heroic. Aslo when mvoeis show heros to sacrifice for their loved ones, makes them look selfisih, they are ony pushed to alism only if there's a personal element to that. That's not heroic at all. Heroism is altruitic, and that only exists when you lay downyour life for the sake of others, strangers to you.So, the movie starts already bad.<br<<br>"Spock Prime: Nimoy knew this script gave him a better sendoff than StarTrek 6 or Unification. Spock is finally at peace with himself.He is balanced perfectly between logic and emotion and sees the value in both. His quietly expressed sadness to Kirk and hopeful advice to his younger self were Nimoy at his best. Anybody who doesn't like those scenes doesn't like Star Trek. And doesn't realize Nimoy's subtlety as an actor was always the perfect counterpoint to Shatner's grandiose scene stealing and Kelley's comedic cantakerousness. Nimoy made the franchise work, no matter how goofy the script or silly the scenario. He makes us Believe."<br><br>Leonard Nimoy is one of the coolest cats on Earth, totally agree with you. But his character as is in this movie is just a plot device. A basil exposition. And another tool on Jay Jay Abram's vision of completly transforming Star Trek into Star Wars. What made spock once amazing was he was a character run on logic. The was the top sdaddy of it, and that made his alieness. but now, he's an advocate of "go wot your feelings". I was almost expecting spock to say to young Spock "Luuke, trust your feellings, use the force". spck's final speach about "youg me, you should be more emotional" rings of complete disrespect and piss on what was cool and intersting and unique about Spock. That's lame. TRhe entrire movie was a paeon on "being emotional and sentimental is GOOD!", which is the typical blockbuster hollywood thing "check your feelings, son, check your heart!", when the true Star Trek advocated a more intelligent cerebral future where people solved their problem by thinking them, not by feeling them. Spock became an emo, and thas tis not cool.<br><br>"Karl Urban's McCoy: While everyone else was going out of their way NOT to mimic or imitate the actors who had previously inhabited their characters, Urban nailed EVERY thing we've ever loved about DeForrest Kelley. The quirks. The mannerisms. The voice. The eyes.It's like he was channeling the SPIRIT of the man. He loves Star Trek more than anyone else in the cast. It was a great character actor honoring the work of another great character actor. If you didn't smile everytime Bones was on camera, I truly feel sorry for you."<br><br>This si the thing that i don't compreend, people act liek suprised that "look, Karl Urvan can act"! No shit, Sherlock! Only now people have noticed it? Wher the fuck have you been? I fidn the praise on Karl Urban for this even insulting! Yeah, it's good that he is finally gettignthe kudos he deserve, but it took this movie for you to notice? For fuck's sake! Another thing, nice that was seeing Urban as Bones, next tiem it would be nice if more then half his dialogue would be more then direct quote from the TOS. That's no hommage, that's parody.<br><br>To be continued

  • July 27, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    So you agree then, you are going to wait till the sequel till you pass judgment on the new Star Trek franchise. Because you understand that the first one was just a origin story to get the audience used to these characters again. <P> Ok I'm glad we cleared that up.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    The argument is over

    by Series7

    AsimovLives admitted to waiting to pass judgment on Star Trek till the sequel. Since he said I was repeating what he was trying to get through in his broken Engrish. <P> So I guess this argument will be on hold for a couple of years.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    toad

    by AsimovLives

    It's not precious, it's how it should be. If you make such a stupid claim, you better prove it, or else you are a liar. Or you expect people to believe you as if yours are the words of god himself? Yopu make a claim,,you better prove it, or you are a liar. don't try to get this subject around and get your ass out of your predictment. Either prove your claim of fuck off. I say i am who i am, AsimovLives, you claim i'm soembody else, this MO or whateverthefuck you call him. If you say i'm this soembody else, prove it. Proce with real evidejcen, not just your say so. The preciousness is you, who demand to be beleived just becaus you say so. Because, you could bnot be liars, couldn't you? At best, you could not be mistaken? You are so fuckign sure and yet tyou cannot prove it. what is called somebody who is sure but has no proof to suport it? A fanatic. Excsue me if i don't give you them much respect in that regard. Prove or fuck off. The ball is in your court.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    Your rebuttal to the opening scene shows you know nothing about chain of command and service. He was going down with his ship. He didn't just do it to save his family (granted that was a big part). But that is what people in command do. <P> It would have been stupid if he just made some Helmsmen die on the shit while he escaped.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    I never saiod such things. don't cat like the crestionists, who put tings in the mouth of the oposition they never said, and make bend interpretations to serve their cause. That's not cool.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    Fucking you don't prove shit. You beg and beg people to prove anything. But you probably can't prove that today is Monday.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Really?

    by Series7

    Your first paraphraph just repeats what i said before. <P> - AsimovLives Jul 27th, 2009 12:12:52 PM <P> Then you better go read my fucking first paraPHraph again.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    don't cat like the creationists?????

    by Series7

    Anyone else know what he was aiming for on that one?

  • July 27, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    elder kirk didnt just die so james and mom could escape, but for all of the crew memebers to get away safely...WTC and a federation ship are different too. everyone of those people on there knew the risk of exploring in space..thats different from going to work as an accountant. <P>dammit--which brings up--why was kirks wife there? was she a scientist too? that can be the only explanation..this ship wasnt the 1701-D with families aboard..damn.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Whoa! I can't let that pass Asimov about Kirks daddy

    by toadkillerdog

    Kirk's daddy was heroic no matter why he made the sacrifice. Are you saying that a parent giving their life for their child is not heroic and noble? Your dislike for Starter Trek has truly warped you. <p> I did not like the movie much, but it damn sure had nothing to do with the heroic sacrifice Kirk's daddy made for his unborn child. Parents abandon their children everyday. Kill them almost every day. Abuse them everyday. It may be the norm for a parent to sacrifice for their child, but it is not a given. And when it is a certainty that your life that will be lost, in exchange for an unborn child you will never see, well tell me how that is not heroic to give up your life? <p> Just because you sacrifice for someone you love does not invalidate the heroism in doing so. I suggest you watch a little movie called Life is Beautiful with Roberto Benigni and tell me with a straight face that what he did for, and suffered for his son was not heroic. <p> Really man, pick your battles more wisely You can rail against Star Trek, but don't be a narrow minded fool and nitpick every part of it.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Execllent point Series

    by toadkillerdog

    A commander goes down with his ship - unless he is Greek and abandons his passengers and crew (look it up).

  • July 27, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    C'mon, Asimov...

    by ebonic_plague

    I say this with no malice, but you're really not fooling anyone with this feigned ignorance of M-O-M/BRU. We all operate anonymously in here (well, with the exception of KurtLockwood) but the tells are really incontrovertible... Person of Portugese origin who HATES Bay and Abrams with a rabid passion and posts long diatribes with amazing frequency and exhibits (how shall we say...) a nonchalant disregard of most opinions that contradict his own. Seriously, unless you've got a long lost identical twin brother whose appearances on AICN coincidentally never overlap with yours, or if you've recently suffered a long bout of amnesia, it's pretty obvious what's going on. Again, not trying to antagonize you again, but really, don't shit a shitter.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    "THE PLOT: I love everything about it that the Haters hate. I love that it moves quickly and demands that you pay attention."<br<br>The plot is the very least thing that demands attention in this movie. there is pratically none to speak of. Or ratehrr, let us say, there is not much of a story. But tehre is a lot of incidents, and Yet, they all amount to not much at all. there is no effort to try to understand this plot. It's people running from one place to the other. There's nothing much to understand about that.<br><br>"I love that it never slows down and puts everyone around a conference table to come up with a technobabble solution."<br><br>It's slowing down that this movie needed most. If for notigh else, to present a difference of rhytm between an action scene and one that's not. When all scenes are fast, that sets a banality to the procedures, and nothing becomes urgent. Adn it kilsl suspence, andit kills mood. more important then fast pacing, it's mood that makes or breaks a movie. And Dawson's Trek had none. All it was a calvagade of stuff happening, and at a pace there was no breather. That is not excuiting, that's mind-numbing. In sets a numbingness that kills real drama.<br><br>"I love that Nero is a mysterious figure. We don't know what he wants or why he wants it or where he's from or where he's been. And even when we DO know, we still have questions. He never becomes The Talking Killer who explains everything to give you time to not be killed. He's not a Bond Villain. He's going to destroy the whole fucking Federation if he has to. There's no time for a "rational, reasoned defense" of why he shouldn't. This Crazy Romulan just Fucking Destroyed Vulcan! How are we going to stop him from doing the same thing to Earth? That's an exciting scenario to throw into the hands of some wet behind the ears Starfleet cadets.<br><br>Nero is nothing but a cypher, and not of the good kind. He has no character or personality other then a grumpy guy who wants to do evil things for dumb reasons. He's not a characte,r he's a plot device. and his motivatiosn are trasnparent and very easy to undertand. He's transparent in what he wants and what he wants to do. and as regending vilalins goes, he's the dumbest there is. This guy arrives to the past, 80 years before the catasclamic event that kills his plant, and what does he do? Does he go romulus and warsn of the impending doom, and what things could be avoided? Goes warn the younger Spock of what happened in the future and then does everythign he can to help spock not fuck up in the future, when the cataclism comes? Does he goes for any action that migth secure the well being andn survival of his people? Or does he go on a petty stupid revenge bulskhit that serves no porpose whatsoever? And fuck that notion that "oh he's a psychopath?" He and EVERYUBODY ELSE IN THE CREW? Waht kind of mining operation was that, completly run by psychos? notr one single one of the crew would had doubts and thiuhg tat with the optential they had, wasting it all on a revenge was a fantastically big waste that wouldn't help their people whatsoever? there would be no factions? All would blindly follow Nero's orders? What kind of nonsense is this?<br><br>"If you're not cheering when they put aside their differences and come together to save the day, how can you call yourself a Star Trek Fan at all?"<br><br>By th end of the movie, i was wishing Nero would win. I was so fed up with the anoying teen bullshit anoying petulant whimming idiots that im was begging somebody, please somebody would put a cap on this fucks' heads1 It's because i love cineam, it's because i have sympathy, i like and i respect the TOS that i wanted this anoying gits pretenders to fucking die! What a sorry buch of heroes i had to suffer through!<br><br>Don't get me wrong, i like the actors. specially zachary Quinto, who is PERFECTLY CAST as Spock. I can't think of nobody else as Spock, really. Chrios Pike is OK, i guess, nothing much by the end of the day. Zoe Saldana is a lovely young lady, very easy on the eye and not a bad screen presence either. i just hope he gains sone kilos, just some kilos, she is a bit weee too think. Being so thin is not helthy. But despiste that, she is still quite a looker. Yum yum!! It's always great to see Bruce Greenhood in a movie, even though his cahracter was just there to... i don't know, look inept or something!<br><br>The thing is, i hav eno problemw iththe actors. but i have a HUGE problem with the characters. The fucking teen bullshit characters. Idf this is the best what Jar Jar Abrams and hso two ass-slave wrioters can do, then they better hang themselve,s this guys can't qwrite characters worth a shit. This are a parody and a disgrace to the iconic TOS characters we came to like and admire.<br><br>Tehy say this is not your daddy's Star Trek. Guess what, daddy knows better!

  • July 27, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    "THE PLOT: I love everything about it that the Haters hate. I love that it moves quickly and demands that you pay attention."<br<br>The plot is the very least thing that demands attention in this movie. there is pratically none to speak of. Or ratehrr, let us say, there is not much of a story. But tehre is a lot of incidents, and Yet, they all amount to not much at all. there is no effort to try to understand this plot. It's people running from one place to the other. There's nothing much to understand about that.<br><br>"I love that it never slows down and puts everyone around a conference table to come up with a technobabble solution."<br><br>It's slowing down that this movie needed most. If for notigh else, to present a difference of rhytm between an action scene and one that's not. When all scenes are fast, that sets a banality to the procedures, and nothing becomes urgent. Adn it kilsl suspence, andit kills mood. more important then fast pacing, it's mood that makes or breaks a movie. And Dawson's Trek had none. All it was a calvagade of stuff happening, and at a pace there was no breather. That is not excuiting, that's mind-numbing. In sets a numbingness that kills real drama.<br><br>"I love that Nero is a mysterious figure. We don't know what he wants or why he wants it or where he's from or where he's been. And even when we DO know, we still have questions. He never becomes The Talking Killer who explains everything to give you time to not be killed. He's not a Bond Villain. He's going to destroy the whole fucking Federation if he has to. There's no time for a "rational, reasoned defense" of why he shouldn't. This Crazy Romulan just Fucking Destroyed Vulcan! How are we going to stop him from doing the same thing to Earth? That's an exciting scenario to throw into the hands of some wet behind the ears Starfleet cadets.<br><br>Nero is nothing but a cypher, and not of the good kind. He has no character or personality other then a grumpy guy who wants to do evil things for dumb reasons. He's not a characte,r he's a plot device. and his motivatiosn are trasnparent and very easy to undertand. He's transparent in what he wants and what he wants to do. and as regending vilalins goes, he's the dumbest there is. This guy arrives to the past, 80 years before the catasclamic event that kills his plant, and what does he do? Does he go romulus and warsn of the impending doom, and what things could be avoided? Goes warn the younger Spock of what happened in the future and then does everythign he can to help spock not fuck up in the future, when the cataclism comes? Does he goes for any action that migth secure the well being andn survival of his people? Or does he go on a petty stupid revenge bulskhit that serves no porpose whatsoever? And fuck that notion that "oh he's a psychopath?" He and EVERYUBODY ELSE IN THE CREW? Waht kind of mining operation was that, completly run by psychos? notr one single one of the crew would had doubts and thiuhg tat with the optential they had, wasting it all on a revenge was a fantastically big waste that wouldn't help their people whatsoever? there would be no factions? All would blindly follow Nero's orders? What kind of nonsense is this?<br><br>"If you're not cheering when they put aside their differences and come together to save the day, how can you call yourself a Star Trek Fan at all?"<br><br>By th end of the movie, i was wishing Nero would win. I was so fed up with the anoying teen bullshit anoying petulant whimming idiots that im was begging somebody, please somebody would put a cap on this fucks' heads1 It's because i love cineam, it's because i have sympathy, i like and i respect the TOS that i wanted this anoying gits pretenders to fucking die! What a sorry buch of heroes i had to suffer through!<br><br>Don't get me wrong, i like the actors. specially zachary Quinto, who is PERFECTLY CAST as Spock. I can't think of nobody else as Spock, really. Chrios Pike is OK, i guess, nothing much by the end of the day. Zoe Saldana is a lovely young lady, very easy on the eye and not a bad screen presence either. i just hope he gains sone kilos, just some kilos, she is a bit weee too think. Being so thin is not helthy. But despiste that, she is still quite a looker. Yum yum!! It's always great to see Bruce Greenhood in a movie, even though his cahracter was just there to... i don't know, look inept or something!<br><br>The thing is, i hav eno problemw iththe actors. but i have a HUGE problem with the characters. The fucking teen bullshit characters. Idf this is the best what Jar Jar Abrams and hso two ass-slave wrioters can do, then they better hang themselve,s this guys can't qwrite characters worth a shit. This are a parody and a disgrace to the iconic TOS characters we came to like and admire.<br><br>Tehy say this is not your daddy's Star Trek. Guess what, daddy knows better!

  • July 27, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    "THE PLOT: I love everything about it that the Haters hate. I love that it moves quickly and demands that you pay attention."<br<br>The plot is the very least thing that demands attention in this movie. there is pratically none to speak of. Or ratehrr, let us say, there is not much of a story. But tehre is a lot of incidents, and Yet, they all amount to not much at all. there is no effort to try to understand this plot. It's people running from one place to the other. There's nothing much to understand about that.<br><br>"I love that it never slows down and puts everyone around a conference table to come up with a technobabble solution."<br><br>It's slowing down that this movie needed most. If for notigh else, to present a difference of rhytm between an action scene and one that's not. When all scenes are fast, that sets a banality to the procedures, and nothing becomes urgent. Adn it kilsl suspence, andit kills mood. more important then fast pacing, it's mood that makes or breaks a movie. And Dawson's Trek had none. All it was a calvagade of stuff happening, and at a pace there was no breather. That is not excuiting, that's mind-numbing. In sets a numbingness that kills real drama.<br><br>"I love that Nero is a mysterious figure. We don't know what he wants or why he wants it or where he's from or where he's been. And even when we DO know, we still have questions. He never becomes The Talking Killer who explains everything to give you time to not be killed. He's not a Bond Villain. He's going to destroy the whole fucking Federation if he has to. There's no time for a "rational, reasoned defense" of why he shouldn't. This Crazy Romulan just Fucking Destroyed Vulcan! How are we going to stop him from doing the same thing to Earth? That's an exciting scenario to throw into the hands of some wet behind the ears Starfleet cadets.<br><br>Nero is nothing but a cypher, and not of the good kind. He has no character or personality other then a grumpy guy who wants to do evil things for dumb reasons. He's not a characte,r he's a plot device. and his motivatiosn are trasnparent and very easy to undertand. He's transparent in what he wants and what he wants to do. and as regending vilalins goes, he's the dumbest there is. This guy arrives to the past, 80 years before the catasclamic event that kills his plant, and what does he do? Does he go romulus and warsn of the impending doom, and what things could be avoided? Goes warn the younger Spock of what happened in the future and then does everythign he can to help spock not fuck up in the future, when the cataclism comes? Does he goes for any action that migth secure the well being andn survival of his people? Or does he go on a petty stupid revenge bulskhit that serves no porpose whatsoever? And fuck that notion that "oh he's a psychopath?" He and EVERYUBODY ELSE IN THE CREW? Waht kind of mining operation was that, completly run by psychos? notr one single one of the crew would had doubts and thiuhg tat with the optential they had, wasting it all on a revenge was a fantastically big waste that wouldn't help their people whatsoever? there would be no factions? All would blindly follow Nero's orders? What kind of nonsense is this?<br><br>To be continued.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    "THE PLOT: I love everything about it that the Haters hate. I love that it moves quickly and demands that you pay attention."<br<br>The plot is the very least thing that demands attention in this movie. there is pratically none to speak of. Or ratehrr, let us say, there is not much of a story. But tehre is a lot of incidents, and Yet, they all amount to not much at all. there is no effort to try to understand this plot. It's people running from one place to the other. There's nothing much to understand about that.<br><br>"I love that it never slows down and puts everyone around a conference table to come up with a technobabble solution."<br><br>It's slowing down that this movie needed most. If for notigh else, to present a difference of rhytm between an action scene and one that's not. When all scenes are fast, that sets a banality to the procedures, and nothing becomes urgent. Adn it kilsl suspence, andit kills mood. more important then fast pacing, it's mood that makes or breaks a movie. And Dawson's Trek had none. All it was a calvagade of stuff happening, and at a pace there was no breather. That is not excuiting, that's mind-numbing. In sets a numbness that kills real drama.<br><br>To be continued

  • July 27, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    I think we broke him.

    by ebonic_plague

  • July 27, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Why is this not working?

    by AsimovLives

    Why it's only posting one paragraph nd not the rest??

  • July 27, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    ebonic

    by AsimovLives

    It's just a temporary glitch, nothing to worry about.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    "THE PLOT: I love everything about it that the Haters hate. I love that it moves quickly and demands that you pay attention."<br><br>The plot is the very least thing that demands attention in this movie. there is practically none to speak of. Or rather, let us say, there is not much of a story. But there is a lot of incidents, and Yet, they all amount to not much at all. there is no effort to try to understand this plot. It's people running from one place to the other. There's nothing much to understand about that.<br><br>"I love that it never slows down and puts everyone around a conference table to come up with a technobabble solution."<br><br>It's slowing down that this movie needed most. If for nothing else, to present a difference of rhythm between an action scene and one that's not. When all scenes are fast, that sets a banality to the procedures, and nothing becomes urgent. And it kills suspense, and it kills mood. More important then fast pacing, it's mood that makes or breaks a movie. And Dawson's Trek had none. All it was a calvagade of stuff happening, and at a pace there was no breather. That is not exciting, that's mind-numbing. In sets a numbness that kills real drama.<br><br>To be continued

  • July 27, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    AAAAHHHHH!! It's fixed!!

    by AsimovLives

  • July 27, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    My God! This is TALKBACK Gold.

    by bobjustbob

    I haven't been this entertained by a talkback since M-O-M was "disappered." Too bad I stopped by so late...<p> BTW, STAR TREK sucked IMO. Great cast though...

  • July 27, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    "I love that Nero is a mysterious figure. We don't know what he wants or why he wants it or where he's from or where he's been. And even when we DO know, we still have questions. He never becomes The Talking Killer who explains everything to give you time to not be killed. He's not a Bond Villain. He's going to destroy the whole fucking Federation if he has to. There's no time for a "rational, reasoned defense" of why he shouldn't. This Crazy Romulan just Fucking Destroyed Vulcan! How are we going to stop him from doing the same thing to Earth? That's an exciting scenario to throw into the hands of some wet behind the ears Starfleet cadets."<br><br>Nero is nothing but a cypher, and not of the good kind. He has no character or personality other then a grumpy guy who wants to do evil things for dumb reasons. He's not a character he's a plot device. And his motivations are transparent and very easy to understand. He's transparent in what he wants and what he wants to do. And as revenging villains goes, he's the dumbest there is. This guy arrives to the past, 80 years before the cataclysm event that kills his plant, and what does he do? Does he go romulus and warns of the impending doom, and what things could be avoided? Goes warn the younger Spock of what happened in the future and then does everything he can to help Spock not fuck up in the future, when the cataclysm comes? Does he goes for any action that might secure the well being and survival of his people? Or does he go on a petty stupid revenge bullshit that serves no propose whatsoever? And fuck that notion that "oh he's a psychopath?" He and EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CREW? What kind of mining operation was that, completely run by psychos? Not one single one of the crew would had doubts and thing tat with the potential they had, wasting it all on a revenge was a fantastically big waste that wouldn't help their people whatsoever? there would be no factions? All would blindly follow Nero's orders? What kind of nonsense is this?<br><br>To be continued.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    >"If you're not cheering when they put aside their differences and come together to save the day, how can you call yourself a Star Trek Fan at all?"<br><br>By the end of the movie, i was wishing Nero would win. I was so fed up with the annoying teen bullshit petulant whining idiots that i was begging somebody, please somebody would put a cap on this fucks' heads1 It's because i love cinema, it's because i have sympathy, i like and i respect the TOS that i wanted this annoying gits pretenders to fucking die! What a sorry bunch of heroes i had to suffer through!<br><br>Don't get me wrong, i like the actors. specially Zachary Quinto, who is PERFECTLY CAST as Spock. I can't think of nobody else as Spock, really. Chris Pike is OK i guess, nothing much by the end of the day. Zoe Saldana is a lovely young lady, very easy on the eye and not a bad screen presence either. i just hope he gains some kilos, just some kilos, she is a bit weee too think. Being so thin is not healthy. But despite that, she is still quite a looker. Yum yum!! It's always great to see Bruce Greenhood in a movie, even though his character was just there to... i don't know, look inept or something!<br><br>The thing is, i have no problem with the actors. but i have a HUGE problem with the characters. The fucking teen bullshit characters. If this is the best what Jar Jar Abrams and his two ass-slave writers can do, then they better hang themselves this guys can't write characters worth a shit. This are a parody and a disgrace to the iconic TOS characters we came to like and admire.<br><br>They say this is not your daddy's Star Trek. Guess what, daddy knows better!

  • July 27, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    FEing ignorance? What nonsense is this? You too? Jessu, this is like a virus. Samll wonder so many geeks here swallowed the Dawson's Trek bullshit so fast and easy. You take the words of an idiot, words he says wityout any evidence, and you swallow it whole unquestionably. For fuck's sakes, dude, get a grip! do ineed to satart asking evidence for your claims from you too? Am I not deeelign with too many retards already in this stupid subject? Give me a fucking break, will you?

  • July 27, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by AsimovLives

    "Kirk's daddy was heroic no matter why he made the sacrifice. Are you saying that a parent giving their life for their child is not heroic and noble? Your dislike for Starter Trek has truly warped you."<br><br>Watch the movie again. kirk's dad was about to go to an escape pod when he learns that his wife has not yet reached her own escape pod. Weh he was on his way to his own, there was still quite many crew still around the ship. Kirk's dad only goes back to gave his wife and son a chance. The thing is, and this is the thing that TOS has explored in many of the episode,s when you have to sacrifice one of your own loved ones for the sake of the many, all strangers to you. In fact, it might had been even more dramatic, and proper heroic conduct that Kirk babyu would had been rescued, but Kirk Dad has consciously let him AND his wife left behind to certain death, just so the baby could be saved. Adn kirk would grow up with the mental image that his dad had deliberatly killed his mother, and made him an orphan, a personal baggage that Commander Pike had tried in vain to explain young kirk that is not right, that dad made the ultimate sacrifice, but Kirk still can't understands that. Later in teh story, kirk would bneed to sacrifice the lifes of many people, so that much more could be saved, inclusing some friend from the academy, and finally he would the real price of the sacrifice his dad once did. This would be a nice way to do things. but what Jar Jar Abtrrams and his two ass-slaves did was the easy coup out, and all they did was create a stupid scene just to milk some easy melodrama bullshit for the too easy to be manipulated by cheap drama. Balls!<br><br>Cont.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by AsimovLives

    "I did not like the movie much, but it damn sure had nothing to do with the heroic sacrifice Kirk's daddy made for his unborn child. Parents abandon their children everyday. Kill them almost every day. Abuse them everyday. It may be the norm for a parent to sacrifice for their child, but it is not a given. And when it is a certainty that your life that will be lost, in exchange for an unborn child you will never see, well tell me how that is not heroic to give up your life?"<br><br>So, basicaly, you feel prey to the easy emotional manipulation of that scene. Re-read my post above for the rufutation of this as well.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    It's fell, not feel, sorry.

    by AsimovLives

  • July 27, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Dude, Asimov, chill...

    by ebonic_plague

    I'm not "taking words" from anyone, I've read MOM/BRU's posts, and yours, with my own eyes, and honestly, I knew as soon as you started laying into Bay and JJ that it was the same person who wrote them. I can't see how anyone who read MOM's posts would think otherwise. <p> I'm not saying this to play "gotcha," but I'd give more creedence to your other claims if you'd just acknowledge the obvious and concede this point. You're hardly the first to gain infamy on AICN for your outspoken views, it's not like you'll lose face if you admit to being MOM/BRU, quite the opposite, I think these guys would grant you a bit more respect for admitting what's already known. There's no such thing as "evidence" in this case, as all MOM's posts were deleted upon banning. I'll give you a break, but you first, dig? Otherwise, why should I listen to anything you say on any other subject, when you insist that something so obviously true is a lie?

  • July 27, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    For the love of God and all things holy

    by joshuavance1701

    Would someone PLEASE send this fat pasty cocksucker Ass-imov shits a computer virus? <P> You turgid little prick you are just pissed Enterprise got canned and this new movie busted the bank. <p> You stinking heffer taint, you make Shitbag, charles tainted cunt 1978, and all the other pissy pants look like comefic gold in comparison, I don't believe in my 12 years of browsing this site I've ever seen such a fantastically crippled douche frothing shit from their fat little fingers. You pariah fuck, your taste in films SUCKS. Your knowledge of films SUCKS. Your smarmy little opinions SUCK. Would someone please distract this little fuck by getting him a girlfriend so he keeps his pedantic ass away from the computer?? God Almighty.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    toad, you're a sucker!

    by just pillow talk

    You emoting bastard you! Can't you see when Abrams is toying with your psyche! Oh, if only we could be like M-O-M...to be above it all...and to *know* what makes a great movie.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    plot devices

    by Series7

    So I guess those aren't allowed to be in movies these days?

  • July 27, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    hey now! lay off him josh!

    by just pillow talk

    It's just the damn pop-ups the mangle his well-intentioned points, and don't twist them to calling everyone's opinion shit. <p>Back me up on this M-O-M.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by Series7

    I love how AsimovLives has just skipped over our rebuttals to his weak ass excuse for the opening scene and why I didn't work.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    by AsimovLives

    "Just because you sacrifice for someone you love does not invalidate the heroism in doing so. I suggest you watch a little movie called Life is Beautiful with Roberto Benigni and tell me with a straight face that what he did for, and suffered for his son was not heroic. Really man, pick your battles more wisely You can rail against Star Trek, but don't be a narrow minded fool and nitpick every part of it."<br><br>What you deliberatly decided not to understand about my objections is that in Holylwood movies, all sacrifices are PERSONAL! no hero in movies today act selflessly. Everything has to be PERSONAL. They go agaisnt some bad guy because it's PERSONAL. They schange their minds about something they were once reluctant because THERE IS NOW A PERSONAL REASON. Everyhing is PERSONAL. It's not only now a laughable cliche, it's evne fucking insulting. all this so-called heros are selfish gits who only act if there is some personal interest to them or else it's not their business. I'm fucking tided of thisa fake heroes. This are not heroes, they are gits, this are mundane idiots i don't care. A true hero doesn't need personal reasons to act. In TOS, they never acted with personal interests whenthey were heroic. And when soemtiems they did act on pesonal impulses or interest, the show always made clear they were not on the right path and were acting selfishy and put in danger to interest of all others.<br><br>But of cours,e fucks' like Jar Jar Abrams and Bob The Orci don't udnerstadn what is that, altrusim and work for the beterment of others. This selfish gits, this fucks, they only act for their own interests, and so, they can only imagine their heroes act likewise, and they think this is the actions of good men. This fucks are clueless!<br><br>And oh yeah, you bet this is a fight i want to pick. The fight i pick is THE WHOLE DAWSON'S TREK BULLSHIT!

  • July 27, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    I think the fact that writer of this movie

    by Series7

    Fucking put AsimovLives in his place and he is still trying to scramble his way out pretty much says it all.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Make it mirror!

    by mhartley

    Make it mirror, I say. Since the "normal" timeline was altered, the events in the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror" don't take place and the Terran Empire never falters. Mirror Picard shows up in the "new normal timeline" and begins taking over the galaxy with his advanced technology. It's up to "new normal" Kirk and his mates to stop Picard by forming alliances with the Klingons and Romulans. Lots of shit blows up real good.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    they never acted with personal interests in TOS????

    by Series7

    Really? I'm pretty sure that was the main argument behind Spock and Kirks relationship.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    I skipped noting, go read it again, it's multi-parted.<br><br>Don't start with lies, OK? That's fucking low! Tha's not how you make your arguments gain any value. Get a grip, will you?

  • July 27, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    The problem with AsimovLives

    by Series7

    Is that he will never admit that he is ever wrong. And unlike a real fight you can't physically win. So he just keeps coming back with the same lame ass argument. He pretty much is just like a computer virus himself. Maybe he really is just a computer virus that's why he's all jumpy and glitchy.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Is it too much to ask you to READ THE WHOLE DAMN POST? Thank you.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    I posted that

    by Series7

    Like 20 seconds after you posted your rebuttal. Obviously our shit crossed streams.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Hey Bob

    by joshuavance1701

    Since you frequent this forum , do me a monumental favor - for no other reason but to give a huge FUCK YOU to assholes like Assimov Shits, in the Star Trek sequel have MORE lens flares. Pattern the narrative this time on The Empire Strikes Back. Magnify and enhance the plot holes. Cast even YOUNGER actors to portray the crew. As a matter of fact, fuck a script, conjure up 6 or 7 set pieces and just film the cast giving the finger to cunts like Assimov Shits for two hours. Bam there's our film. <p> What the fuck is Chris Pines phone number, I wanna see Chris show up and knock the fuck out of people like Assimov Shits. Bob make it so.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Get a grip, will you?

    by Series7

    I'm not the one asdfjkl;asfjkla;s all over the key board trying to contain myself. I am actually taking the time out to spell check my shit and make sure it makes sense.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Damn fellas!

    by Cellar Door

    A guy could get whiplash trying to catch up with all the fun in this TB! wtf?!

  • July 27, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Why should i admit being wrong on something i'm not?<br><br>You know what is my problem? Mty problem is people who do things liek waht you are doing right now, which is, pick only the parts that interest you and make a whole of noise and create misdirection and obfiscation. What you are doing now is the same the creationists do to push their bulslhit, by perverting the oposion words and to bend them to thjeir own interests. Act a little but more honorably, will you? You actions right now are not becoming you. I though better of you.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Also you just repeated yourself

    by Series7

    Just because you say it over and over again dosn't make it ture. You've yet to address the fact that Pike was the Captain of the ship and went down with the ship just like any other captain would. Nothing personal just doing his duty.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Jesus man

    by Series7

    That shit was garbage to read.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives, Let it go already

    by MELGIBSONS_DICKCHEESE

    You won't convince retards that a movie they love is retarded.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Maybe you should spend more time READING THE POSTS BEFORE ANSWERING THEM. Might it have crossed your mind that if you actually read my posts, you could save soem of yours? It certainly would, given that your latest posts are nothing but complete misunderstandings of my posts. That's why you should get a grip, and read the damn posts. Really read them. Thank you.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    MELGIBSONS_DICKCHEESE

    by AsimovLives

    Thanks for the advice, but i'm not in here to convince them, not the guys i'm interacting with, anyway. If there is any convincingin my posts, it's for the for the readers who don't post. But mostly, i post to have interesting conversations with the other cool people here, regardless if they agree or not. But it seems right now, there's a bit of a shortage of the cool people.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    The Lensflare Strikes Back

    by joshuavance1701

    Hey Bob, have the crew on an Ice planet called Froth. Split them up halfway through the film with Kirk going solo and Bones and Spock stranded in an asteroid film. Have Kirk frozen in Bolarite. Have the Enterprise arrive at a city in the clouds called Thespin, and the film end with a cliff-hanger where Kirk has a duel with a Klingon called Narf Bater. Fuck Assimov Shits. Fuck him to hades.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    You want to try and guess why i repeat myself? Because guys like you are always comingwith the same stuff, time and again and again and again. You really are like the creationists.

  • Ever heard of Hitler?

  • July 27, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Asimov - You are Tongue Cleaner

    by toadkillerdog

    It is official. Congratulations. You earned it. <p> In order to have a rational sic non-ranting, debate about any issue. The parties involved must first BE rational, and capable of flexible thinking. Your inane responses have proven that on the subject of this movie you absolutely can not be rational. Under any circumstances.<p> A commander goes down with his ship.<p> A parent sacrificing their life for an unborn child (someone they do not even know)is indeed a heroic thing. Self sacrifice - the ultimate gift that a person can give to anyone, demands a selflessness - a heroic selflessness. Your life will be ended, but you still do it. <p> My God man, hate the movie, argue the valid points that make it a bad movie - like the coincidences and stupid motivations and the bad plot, and lazy writing, and I will agree with you. But to take such a motarded an indefensible stance is not only to undermine any shred of credibility you own, but to put paid on the assumption that you are indeed nothing more than an attention needing troll who would argue the most picayune point. <p> Grow up.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    You really are like the creationists???

    by Series7

    What the fuck are you going on about? Am I not letting you talk about evolution? Am I the state of Kansas? <P> To the point you are breaking down this film is just pointless. You can break down every film ever made to the point you did. <P> What it comes down to is that you didn't like some of the easy plot points. Wow goo for you, convenient stuff happened in a movie....when does this not happen?

  • July 27, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    "Ever heard of Hitler?"<br><br>What the fuck he has got to do with Nero? nero is to comander of a mining operation which, if the mvoie gives any indicationm has no more then just some half dozen guys operating the huge ship. It's a small crew, not a fucking nation. a group that smal, would stand coherent for 20 years sitting in their asses waiting at he same spot. In lesser time, Nero would had had a knife stabbed at his back, for much less waiting. Fuck's sakes, that's a terrible comparison! You have to think your arguments a bit better.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    Also you have to repeat yourself because we don't speak broken ass Engrish around here. So the stuff you write is pretty much nothing half the time. Its like a cat walked on your keyboard and you hit enter.

  • July 27, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Youa re liek the creationists because you use the same tactics. You don't read the whole text, you only read the one you think serves your porpose and then bend it make it look like it soerves your porpose. You have, in your previous post,s post nothing but crass misinterpretations of my posts, and bending out of their meaning what i have posted to facilitiate your arguments. That's bad! And that's the tactics of the creationists. And that's your tactic. And that's wrong. It's bad stuff. I hoped more honourable behavior from you, from what i used to know about you. I'm disapointed.

  • July 27, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    Nero

    by Series7

    Throughout history there have been pawns that follow their leader no matter how wrong he is. And Nero was their leader. Granted Nero's story isn't that fleshed out, but it's not beyond belief that his crew would follow him blindly. Their world is gone they got nothing else to do.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    <br><br>Also you have to repeat yourself because we don't speak broken ass Engrish around here. So the stuff you write is pretty much nothing half the time. Its like a cat walked on your keyboard and you hit enter.<br><br>Well, that's easy to fix, isn't it? From now one, we shall post in portuguese only, what you say? Começamos agora mesmo?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    No creationists

    by Series7

    Just make shit up and don't listen to the other side. I'd say your more like the creationists then me. You always act like your right no matter what. <P> I'm still waiting for you to bring up why a Captain of a ship should not go down with his ship?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    A tripulação da nave do Nero iria esperar vinte anos no mesmo lugar? E durante esse tempo todo eles nunca iriam começar a desafiar a sabedoria do seu comando? Impossivel! Não faz sentido nenhum!

  • July 27, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    I guess Aint it Cool News is a Portuguese site then? I don't come over to a Portuguese site and start talking in a language I hardly have a grip on? Do get pissy with me because you can't take the time to re read your post. You can type and read English fine, just take a second or two to re read your post before you poop them on here. Seeing that you think you are the almighty knowledge of truth when it comes to movie. You should try to come across as such rather then someone who is ok with a 100 percent typo rate.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    OR do like this

    by Series7

    Don't get pissy with me* <P> So we know when you've made a mistake and need to correct it.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Eu nunca invento merdas para parecer que estou a vencer um argument. Isso é fraquice mental! Merda para isso!<br><br>No inicio do filme, o pai do Kirk quase qwue esteve para ir para uma barcaça de salvamento. Ele não ia abaixo com a sua embarcação, neste caso uma nave espacial. Ele estava pronto a salvar a sua vida. Esse é que é o verdadeiro assunto deste talkback. Don't daí estrapolaste que eu acho que um capitão não dever morrer com o seu navio é algoq ue me está a escapar à compreenção. De onde é que tiraste essa ideia?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Tu é que estavas com problemas com o meu inglês. Então vamos falar em português, jé que éa minha lungua nativa e eu estou mais à vontade com ela. Ainda estou à espera que tu respondas em português.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Então, como é, respondes ou quê?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by bobjustbob

    You are using sound, deductive reasoning. MOM would never approve.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    See above

    by Series7

  • July 27, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Also AsimovLives

    by Series7

    Your arguments have no points. You just want to argue to argue. I don't think Star Trek is the greatest movie ever. It was a fun summer movie, better then I thought it would be. I guess my argument is that its not "the biggest fuck you to cinema there is right now" because that Honor belongs to Year One. Which I think comes out in Portugal this week? <P> There is no way you can convince anyone that Star Trek is worse then that movie.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by toadkillerdog

    Você precisa ficar mais flexível em seu pensamento. Seu espumando pedante poderia lhe dar uma satisfação temporária, mas isto maks que você se parece com um bobo.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    makes not maks

    by toadkillerdog

  • July 27, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    "we shall post in portuguese only"

    by Xiphos_2

    Portugese is an actual language now and not just grunts, clicks and whistles? Congrats goat fucker.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    MOM's next screen name should be

    by bobjustbob

    Irene_Reilley or Dr_Talc.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    knock knock

    by Six Demon Bag

    are we talking about films here or who's who?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    And the meltdown continues.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Fucking. Beautiful.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    who's there?

    by just pillow talk

    M-O-M!

  • July 27, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    MNG - This is a Fucking China Syndrome!

    by toadkillerdog

    But the thing about people like M-O-M... er, Asimov, is that they keep things interesting

  • July 27, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    I guess this is how long it takes for

    by Series7

    M-O-M to edit what he types.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    TKD

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ha! And now he's resorted to responding in Portuguese. The insanity is beyond the beyond!

  • July 27, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    MOM hated haikus

    by bobjustbob

    you silly rabbit you dream of a great debate i drink you milkshake

  • July 27, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Doh! forgot line breaks(Memories of MOM)

    by bobjustbob

    you silly rabbit<p> you dream of a great debate<p> i drink you milkshake

  • July 27, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Não percebo nada do que estás a dizer.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    MNG the Portugese word for fool is: Bobo

    by toadkillerdog

    Just thought you would like to know.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    How good!!!!

    by AsimovLives

    So, who will be the first to bring the evidence and the proof of those claims? Or you all believe the lies of Mr Nice Gaius without thinking?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by AsimovLives

    No it's not. Remember, i'm portuguese.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Sorry I only want to talk to M-O-M

    by Series7

    Is M-O-M there? Can M-O-M come out and talk?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    bobjustbob

    by AsimovLives

    The milkshake you drank... you drank it from the toilet. Usually, it's called urine. YOU DRANK MY URINE!

  • July 27, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    You want your mom? You think she is at my house?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    We need to speak to M-O-M

    by Series7

    Is M-O-M in there? Can't you just let her come out?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Hey, Series7's mom

    by AsimovLives

    You son wants you. He's calling you.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    You should know where your mom is.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Now AsimovLives

    by Series7

    You know who M-O-M is, just let her come out and talk to us for a while. Please AsimovLives will you do that for us?

  • July 27, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    It's like I already told you, Assimov...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...we already know you're BRU/MOM. It's so painfully obvious. Keep denying it though; it's hysterical.

  • July 27, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    There is no Dana only AZZZIMOV!

    by ebonic_plague

    Asimov the Traveler! Asimov the Destruc-tor! He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms...

  • July 27, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Wow, AsimomLives

    by bobjustbob

    My comments weren't directed to you... they where directed at MOM. Whoops! Did you just give something away. Silly rabbit. You REALY do hate haikus.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Asimov, how about Tolo, as in you are a tolo?

    by toadkillerdog

    fool v. fazer besteiras, cometer tolices; enganar; vagar; zombar, troçar s. tolo, bobo; palhaço, pateta

  • July 27, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    bobjustbob - Good on ya!

    by toadkillerdog

    I do believe we have a winner in the flush M-O-M from the tree sweepstakes!

  • July 27, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    To mom, where ever you are

    by bobjustbob

    memories of mom<p> Your silliness is renowned<p> Please come out to play

  • July 27, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    AsimomLives/Memories

    by Series7

    Has jumped TB's to the Batman one. We really need to get him to let M-O-M out, multiple personality disorder is something that should not left unchecked.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by bobjustbob

    No worries... just having enjoyable flashbacks...

  • July 27, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by AsimovLives

    Tolo is correct though it's a bit old fashioned and almost out of use. Doido is the most commonly used word. And admit it, you were doing some research, wheren't you? Wasn't it great? But you did the basic mistake that most foreigns do, you go for the brazilian stuff first. And believe it or not, there's differences.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by AsimovLives

    And don't take me wrong, i was pelasantly suprised by your research. You hsowed smarts and intelligence. Too bad it's in service at assholery born from the blind following of the ideas of retards like Mr Nice Gaius. What a fucking waste. I could had called you friend easy.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by Series7

    You need to bring your friend AsimovLives to a hospital. She needs medical help.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    You are not thinking in trying to return this talkback to the discussion of Dawson's Trek, are you? Which is the subject here, i believe, instead of your little "happy" party with your friends. Your highjacking of this talkback is really sad.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Thanks for calling me by my correct nick.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    valkyrie is about to die.

    by Six Demon Bag

  • July 27, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    happy party

    by Series7

    What the fuck is that? Some Japanese game show? <P> AsimovLives, if you just let M-O-M out you will be able to find peace in this world. Bring out the hate child!

  • July 27, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    bobjustbob

    by AsimovLives

    Nice try. By now, i'm already very aware that wehnever soembody makes the MOM coment, they are talking about me. It's astupid, it's retard, but i know what's going on. It has been going on for so long. So, if you think you gained something, you haven't. I already know that the morons and the retards call me MOM. In fact, that's when i know when i'm dealing with a retard, they always call me MOM. It's a great early warning.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    AssimovLives, you cowardly fuck!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: "Too bad it's in service at assholery born from the blind following of the ideas of retards like Mr Nice Gaius."<P>The "ideas" are not born from me, douch nozzle. People came to this conclusion on their own. Why? Because it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS.<P>Get it?!

  • July 27, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    So, who's the next retard that's going to call me MOM?

    by AsimovLives

    Also, answer me this: you retards that call me MOM, how many of you liked Dawson's Trek? I want to find out if there's some correlation.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    No one cares about Star Trek anymore. We all worry about your sanity. You just need to rid yourself of M-O-M. You need to set her free, she is the rage and hate that builds up in your obese pre pubescent body that holds you back from having actual conversations with other people. She is the reason you can't get a date, the reason you torture little animals. She is your Nero, and just like Captain Kirk you need to destroyer her, she has been building up hate inside your body for 20 years. All that rage, now you need to be a man and destroyer her.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    He'll never admit to being M-O-M because...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...that would mean myself, DocPazuzu, Lost Jarv, Sal_Bando, and all you other guys would have him DEAD TO RIGHTS.<P>He'll never concede to it after putting up such a false front. He'll do whatever he has to do to save what little face he thinks he's got.<P>Hell, even BSB came clean and admitted he was brokebackcowboy. That was a huge step for him and everyone was able to laugh and move on.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    I care about DAWSON'S TREK, and so does another talkbacker who in a new hours is off from work and posted a long post explaining the stuff he likes about Dawson's Trek. and i replied to him. and this talkbacker will find it very hard to find my answers becasue you little part of idiots have polluted this talkback with stupid useless posts that do nothing but boost your stupid minded egos. In fac,t there are trools here they are you, and your beloved slave master Mr Nice Gaius. I give this much to Mr Nice Gaius, at least he was the original retard, you the rest are just dumb blind followers, the the followers are always lower then the master.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Asimov, to paraphrase Danny Aiello...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...I'm about to lose my newfound kind streak. <p> People call you M-O-M because you're M-O-M. You are literally the only one here who doesn't understand this. I'm trying to be nice about it, but FFS, the more you insist that we're all just emulating MNG, the more you invite scorn. Either come clean, or understand why your dishonesty only antagonizes all the other talkbackers. <p> Also, there's no point in discussing Star Trek in here, because you refuse to acknowledge ANYONE'S well-stated points that are contrary to your own. I'm not saying that you have NO valid points regarding Star Trek... some of your criticism is actually astute. But the way you absolutely REFUSE to see anyone else's point of view in regards to this movie, or ANY of JJ Abrams' other work, is maddening, and as you hijack every conversation with your hyperbole, it becomes useless to even attempt a discussion. You had a bit of a breakthrough up there, in acknowledging the things you DID like about the movie, but that quickly evaporated when you started frothing again. <p> Take a cue from LaserPants. He made a habit of going apeshit in every TB, trashing T2 with his "Robodaddy" schtick until almost all of Talkbackdom was hollering for him to STFU for stifling the conversation. And so, in a show of respectability and-- dare I say-- professionalism, he admitted he was being an ass and stopped. And talkback was better for it. <p> As it is, anyone who knows anything about Talkback KNEW when they saw this headline that there was only one way this talkback was going to proceed... with you monopolizing the discussion with your fervent "Jar Jar" schtick... and you did not disappoint.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Yes, troll, you want something? Ah, yes, it's that stupid retard subject of yours again. I admit to nothing but to who i am, which is, this poertuguese guy whose real name is Carlos, but who is known here as AsimovLives. but sicne you liek to ake claims i am somebody i'm not, i asked you to deliver hard evidences for your claims. Where are they? Becasu if you don't deliver them, you are a liar. And by lying, you comit the crime of diffamation. Do you understand? So, either comit the evidences or shut the fuck up and for once in your life, chat about the movies. Becasue, really, what i don't really don't understand your fucking obsession. What the fuck you expect to accomplish, anyway?

  • July 27, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Asimov was an old letch.

    by cookylamoo

    He used to hit on anything in a skirt, including Scotsmen.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Asimom

    by bobjustbob

    Game over silly rabibit. Give it up. Your ego failed you again. Just like old times. Awaiting turgid response with the deepest dread...

  • July 27, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    cookylamoo

    by AsimovLives

    Modern boy, hem?

  • July 27, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    Your letting M-O-M take over again aren't you? You are letting the hate build up in you from all those years your parents treated you like a girl because they wanted a girl and got you. You've turned that women into M-O-M, now you are finally free from the torment of being treated like a women when you are a BOY! And you are coming out on your own as a boy in AsimovLives. The more and more you let M-O-M (that past deep dark childhood you dare to share with anyone) control you, the more and more AsimovLives will lose sight of right and wrong and just become another M-O-M. And you will revert back to your feminine ways of bitching to bitch, not listening to sound reasoning and talking just to hear yourself talk like any other girl. Become the boy that you can be with AsimovLives. Be gone with M-O-M!

  • July 27, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    bobjustbob

    by AsimovLives

    Game over for you, friend. You would think that after 7 months of being called MOM i wouldn't pick up on it? Everybody knows now that whenever some retard mentions MOM, they are talking about me. they have repeated that bulslhit so many tiems now, it's now beyond a shadow of a doudt who's being mentioned. And you know why i'm responding now? So i can have the pleasure to call retard to their faces. You know, like you, RETARD!<br><br>Oh fuck, you though you had scared me, didn't you? Poor little retard, how mistaken you are!

  • July 27, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    My new policiy:

    by AsimovLives

    I'll respect everybody in the AICN talkbacks, except the retards who call me MOM.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    To not respect those that call you M-O-M would mean to not respect yourself.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    Its pronounced ritard, ohhh what a shame, what a shame.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    The demon that is M-O-M

    by Series7

    Has for sure taken over AsimovLives for good. The evil temptress has again taken control of this poor boys body again. We now will have to deal with the periodal outburst of asinine insane shit from the mouth. Never again with the words sense and AsimovLives live together. For here on out AsimovLives stands for M-O-M.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    This is a repetition of my previous posts in reply to yours, because thanks to some assholes interventions they are now very futher behind. Here it goes:<br><br>That's what i'm talking about! That's how you do it! Kick ass!! Why took you so long? Now we are in business, you and me. Now that's fun! Ok, what i'm going to do below is, i'm copy and pasting your paragraphs and respond accordingly, agree or disagree, OK? Here we go: "The Opening Sequence: George Kirk's sacrifice and love for a son he would never see (and we've been seeing for 40 years) hit me like a ton of bricks. Maybe it's because I was sitting next to my own son who had just graduated from college, but I actually teared up. Make fun of me all you want, but that's good filmmaking." The thing i dislike about the opening is that the sacrifice is so personal. It's one of the things that have irritated me the most about holylwood movis today is that for a hero to act he has to have thing became personal. I would ad admired Kirk's dad sacrifice if he had do so fo the sake of people when knows nothing about. Everybody sacrifices for their dear ones. But only heroes sacrifice for total strangers. Remember the firemen at 9/11, who went into the WTC building? then went there, knowing that was imient danger of ruin, and yet they went, to save the lives of strangers. That's true heroism. To sacrifice to a dear one is to be applaude,d but it's not particulary heroic, everybody woudl do it. Sacrifice to strangers, that's heroic. Aslo when mvoeis show heros to sacrifice for their loved ones, makes them look selfisih, they are ony pushed to alism only if there's a personal element to that. That's not heroic at all. Heroism is altruitic, and that only exists when you lay downyour life for the sake of others, strangers to you.So, the movie starts already bad.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Why isnt anyone talking about $9.99

    by OzzyManDiaz

    Seriously...

  • July 27, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    "...your beloved slave master Mr Nice Gaius."

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    So, now I'm a "slave master"?! Wow, I had no idea.<P>My fellow Talkbackers, how does that make you feel, knowing that you're my "slaves"?

  • July 27, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    "THE PLOT: I love everything about it that the Haters hate. I love that it moves quickly and demands that you pay attention."<br><br>The plot is the very least thing that demands attention in this movie. there is practically none to speak of. Or rather, let us say, there is not much of a story. But there is a lot of incidents, and Yet, they all amount to not much at all. there is no effort to try to understand this plot. It's people running from one place to the other. There's nothing much to understand about that.<br><br>"I love that it never slows down and puts everyone around a conference table to come up with a technobabble solution."<br><br>It's slowing down that this movie needed most. If for nothing else, to present a difference of rhythm between an action scene and one that's not. When all scenes are fast, that sets a banality to the procedures, and nothing becomes urgent. And it kills suspense, and it kills mood. More important then fast pacing, it's mood that makes or breaks a movie. And Dawson's Trek had none. All it was a calvagade of stuff happening, and at a pace there was no breather. That is not exciting, that's mind-numbing. In sets a numbness that kills real drama.<br><br>To be continued

  • July 27, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Mr Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    Is ritard. Oh lordy lordy me how the devil has this one.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    "I love that Nero is a mysterious figure. We don't know what he wants or why he wants it or where he's from or where he's been. And even when we DO know, we still have questions. He never becomes The Talking Killer who explains everything to give you time to not be killed. He's not a Bond Villain. He's going to destroy the whole fucking Federation if he has to. There's no time for a "rational, reasoned defense" of why he shouldn't. This Crazy Romulan just Fucking Destroyed Vulcan! How are we going to stop him from doing the same thing to Earth? That's an exciting scenario to throw into the hands of some wet behind the ears Starfleet cadets."<br><br>Nero is nothing but a cypher, and not of the good kind. He has no character or personality other then a grumpy guy who wants to do evil things for dumb reasons. He's not a character he's a plot device. And his motivations are transparent and very easy to understand. He's transparent in what he wants and what he wants to do. And as revenging villains goes, he's the dumbest there is. This guy arrives to the past, 80 years before the cataclysm event that kills his plant, and what does he do? Does he go romulus and warns of the impending doom, and what things could be avoided? Goes warn the younger Spock of what happened in the future and then does everything he can to help Spock not fuck up in the future, when the cataclysm comes? Does he goes for any action that might secure the well being and survival of his people? Or does he go on a petty stupid revenge bullshit that serves no propose whatsoever? And fuck that notion that "oh he's a psychopath?" He and EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CREW? What kind of mining operation was that, completely run by psychos? Not one single one of the crew would had doubts and thing tat with the potential they had, wasting it all on a revenge was a fantastically big waste that wouldn't help their people whatsoever? there would be no factions? All would blindly follow Nero's orders? What kind of nonsense is this?<br><br>To be continued

  • July 27, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    You're real name is Carlos? Well, hello Carlos. My name is Mr. Nice Gaius. Fuck you.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by AsimovLives

    >"If you're not cheering when they put aside their differences and come together to save the day, how can you call yourself a Star Trek Fan at all?"<br><br>By the end of the movie, i was wishing Nero would win. I was so fed up with the annoying teen bullshit petulant whining idiots that i was begging somebody, please somebody would put a cap on this fucks' heads1 It's because i love cinema, it's because i have sympathy, i like and i respect the TOS that i wanted this annoying gits pretenders to fucking die! What a sorry bunch of heroes i had to suffer through!<br><br>Don't get me wrong, i like the actors. specially Zachary Quinto, who is PERFECTLY CAST as Spock. I can't think of nobody else as Spock, really. Chris Pike is OK i guess, nothing much by the end of the day. Zoe Saldana is a lovely young lady, very easy on the eye and not a bad screen presence either. i just hope he gains some kilos, just some kilos, she is a bit weee too think. Being so thin is not healthy. But despite that, she is still quite a looker. Yum yum!! It's always great to see Bruce Greenhood in a movie, even though his character was just there to... i don't know, look inept or something!<br><br>The thing is, i have no problem with the actors. but i have a HUGE problem with the characters. The fucking teen bullshit characters. If this is the best what Jar Jar Abrams and his two ass-slave writers can do, then they better hang themselves this guys can't write characters worth a shit. This are a parody and a disgrace to the iconic TOS characters we came to like and admire.<br><br>They say this is not your daddy's Star Trek. Guess what, daddy knows better!

  • July 27, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    firemen at 9/11

    by Series7

    That's true heroism? Really? They were just doing their fucking job. That's what they signed up for. I know in Portugal where they don't have water, or anyone strong enough to be a fire fighter it seems strange.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Series7

    I think we've proved just how lame M-O-M is. He's fucking calling us just retard after everything. Proves that he's not a real man, can't just fucking admit to the female inside of him. WOW RETARD. I hope your parents know that you are making fun of them.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    shoot back-to-back Abrams.

    by eXcommunicated

    It would be great to have two back-to-back Star Trek sequels, perhaps December releases, one year after another to complete a "trilogy." Then go do a different project or two, then 4 years later have Star Trek 4.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Series

    by Continentalop

    I will contradict you on the firemen. Yes they were just doing there job but they were also heroes. Why? Because they signed up to do a job where they could potentially die and still did it. It is a job that requires you to make sacrifices - potentially your own. I consider that heroic. <p> But I also think Kirk's dad sounds like a hero. Going down with the ship is the thing you are supposed to do as a captain, but something you could easily get out of. Let at Titanic - the captain and the designer of the ship went down with it, the owner snuck aboard a life raft like a little pussy instead of accepting his responsibility as owner of the ship.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Assimov's use of "retard" is almost as bad as when he starts throwing around "Mexican't".<P>He's such a sensitive guy...

  • July 27, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    "Let at Titanic"?

    by Continentalop

    Sometimes I look at what I just wrote and wonder why the hell they didn't put me in one of them "Special" classes in school.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Series7

    Oh no its heroic just fine, just not in the sense of what M-O-M was saying. He was acting like they were just guys off of the street running in because they had a calling. He's seen the video for Foo Fighters Hero one to many times.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Titanic

    by Series7

    Too much time with Emmanuelle.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by Series7

    Also look how he is just copy and pasting his lame ass post to cymbalta4thedevil. Still uneditied and out the ass with grammatical errors (I swear if I didn't know better I would say he is drunk, but I still post better drunk and I have shitty as shit grammer). Like cymbalta4thedevil has just been sitting around all day wondering what the fuck M-O-M is going to shit out of her mouth. I bet cymbalta4thedevil doesn't even read this shit. <P> Hey cymbalta4thedevil Holler if you do!

  • July 27, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Cats and Dogs, living together!

    by D.Vader

    Mass hysteria is what this talkback is!

  • July 27, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Hey M-O-Mtard

    by Series7

    We aren't even fucking talking to you. So go back to strangling little animals.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    I can't hide a certain devious enjoyment from

    by AsimovLives

    the anouncement of the news Dawson's Trek movie. In the fisrt movie, it's awfulness andidioticy hit me likew tonne of bricks. now i know what to expect from the trio of the hacks. Knowing what to expect, i think i might actually find soem enjoyment from the two next Dawson's Trek movies, in that Mystery Scoence Theater spirit of having fun by mocking the shit out of them. It will be also fun to see what shit the critics and the fanboys will conjure up to defend the opinion that they are good movies.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Yep, I see that. I've also noticed that when he gets flustered, his command of the English language (as well as his ability to type) goes haywire. It's almost like you can visualize him flailing away just yelling at his keyboard, "Fuck pyou idioties! You are allll retard!"

  • July 27, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Yeah

    by Series7

    With cheetoes (or grasshopers, I don't know what they eat there) getting all over the key board and his face. I imagine the guy from the South Park episode, Make Love Not Warcraft, but Portuguesey and crying.

  • July 27, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    mocking the shit out of them??

    by Series7

    You can't mock anything. Your ability to be quick witted and humorous get lost in your babble about how they should have done what you wanted instead. <P> I don't think you telling someone how lame Captain Pike's heroism is because it’s not like a true hero, a 911 firefighter, therefore negating the whole movie. Would be much appreciated there. They'd probably Portuguese vagina boxing you out of the theater. That’s how you all fight over there right? With your vagina's since you all have really big and saggy loose ones.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    You were a frat boy, weren't you?

  • July 27, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    *Sticks his head in*

    by TedKordLives

    *Slowly backs away*

  • July 27, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    this shit is ridiculous

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    has asimov been on this talk back for like 9 straight hours? from 8 in the morning til 5 in the evening? you realize that you could have watched jj's stark trek like four times in that span of time right? and seriously man, this dawsons trek shit is older that the baywatch nights shit. its just tiresome to read after a while as is all of your constantly regurgitated bull shit about how you hate this movie. god damn man why are you wasting your precious time bitching about this movie? isn't it warm and sunny in portugal? aren't you located on the atlantic ocean? why don't you go to the beach, have a cocktail and fucking relax. you sound like a complete psychopath.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    The AsimomLives moniker is new to me....

    by bobjustbob

    ... but a rose by any other name...<p>

  • July 27, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    and this talkback comes to a sudden halt.

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • July 27, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Your Secret Identity

    by bobjustbob

    you silly rabbit<p> your name: is know to us all<p> my name: bob, just bob

  • July 27, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by TedKordLives

    Yeah, that happens when I post in a TB. Pretty cool, huh?

  • July 27, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    STAR TREK

    by bobjustbob

    As I've said before, I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed the new cast. And of course ILM did an incredible job with the SFX.<p>Unfortunately I really thought the story was weak at best and kept me from enjoying the film overall. (IMO, don't really want to retread if possible.) Hopefully the next installment will provide a story that does the new cast justice...

  • July 27, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by AsimovLives

    Thank god i didn't wasted my time watching that dreadful movie then, hem? Despiste all else, and even including the retardness of some of the talkbackers here, this is far more fun then that dreadful awful movie. Aslo, i'm on vacations and i took a day off from EVERYTHING.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    yeah, but i was hoping for a big bang finish

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    like a link posted by someone saying that a young man in portugal had died from lack of food or water. authorities believe that he was so consumed with his hatred of star trek that he simply forgot about to eat or drink. the room was also covered in feces and jars of urine. Police suspect that he hadn't left the house in several weeks. he will be mourned by memories of murder and bladerunnerunit.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    bobjustbob

    by AsimovLives

    I have a nick, and i'm very particular to it, as i am to everybody else's. I would appreciate you would honour that. Thanks.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    right on asimov

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i understand. doing nothing is my favorite thing on a day off.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    right on asimov

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i understand. doing nothing is my favorite thing on a day off.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by AsimovLives

    That was the other fellow.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    whoopsie double post!

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • July 27, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    bobjustbob

    by AsimovLives

    I did liked the cast of Dawson's Trek too. There's some pretty talented and interesting actors in there, and also some cool veterans. No problem with the actors. The characters they played, however... oh boy!

  • July 27, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    bobjustbob

    by AsimovLives

    And the special effects would had been cool to watch... if i could had see any damn thing thanks to that shaky cam all over the place! It was even worst then Quantum Of Solace, and i hated the shaky cam on QOS.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by AsimovLives

    So what if you douible posts, it doesn't matter. Only wankers would had a problem with that, friend.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    They are missing a big opportunity if they dont...

    by Playkins

    ...redo the "Space Seed" story as the second movie. IMHO, any second Trek film should feature Khan.<P> On that note, what about Vin Deisel as Khan? Could be awesome.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Playkins

    by AsimovLives

    I think they want to bring Khan to the seocnd movie. And klingons. It will be interesting to see how they put both together.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    second movie

    by AsimovLives

    *sight*

  • July 27, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    BobOrci...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You guys (you, Alex, Damon and Carlton) are, by far, the best screenwriters in Hollywood today. I hope that the next TREK films can put an end to the chronic naysayers. I loved the film new TREK film, and I hope that you can do even better with the next. I know that people like AsimovLives mean well with their negativity (because of their love for the TREK franchise), but I hope that you can produce something that proves -- once and for all -- that the new TREK deserves to be taken seriously by the pessimists.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    QOS vs STINO

    by TedKordLives

    Quantum of Solace takes the cake on shaky-cam, my friend. I mean, it's shaky-cam from a guy who'd NEVER directed an action movie for chrissake. At least there's a historical precedent for shaky-cam in Star Trek. Hell, Star Trek:TOS practically invented shaky-cam. <P> *POW* "We're hit, Captain!" Shakeshakeshakeshake, tilt left, tilt right, shakeshakeshake

  • July 27, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    ccchhhrrriiisssm

    by AsimovLives

    The best screenwriters of Hollywood today, as you call them, wrote Legend Of Zorro, The Island, and Transformers 1 and 2. Do you still stick to that statement, or are you taking the piss?

  • July 27, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by AsimovLives

    You post was fantastic, very funny!<br><br>TOS had pre-shaky-cam because inthose days they had not invented the steadycam yet. And also the budget of TOS was so low, they could afford to build an hydraulic set that could tilt, so, they had to fake it. I ild very funny the idea those actors that to throw themselves against the sets to similate the impacts. One wonders how many times they might had put a hole inthe sets, since they were literally made of cardboard!<br><br>It's the haky-cam that prevents me from liking QOS more then i do. Because everything else i really like that movie. But the action scenes are a chore to watch. I rate the shaky cam on Dawson's Trek to be as bad, specially concerning the space battles scene. I gues their idea was to imitate Battlestar Galactica, only in that show they knew what they were doing, in Dawson's Trek not so much.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Hey AssimovGives

    by p0llk4t

    I nominate you for this years Biggest Douche in the Universe award. You're the whiniest fan boy on this site. You've posted/cried thousands of times in dozens of talk backs, many that had nothing to do with this film.<br><br>I get it...you have a severe man crush on the director. He must have not given you a second look when you were hooking it with the other trannies on Santa Monica. Sorry he broke your heart.<br><br>Oh and you're not a Trekkie either right? Fucking idiot. I don't know any Trekkies, but most of them probably would shun you for being so creepy and obsessive over a fucking movie.<br><br>Please stop stalking this man. Freak.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    they could afford = they couldn't afford

    by AsimovLives

    *sigh*

  • July 27, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Asi

    by TedKordLives

    Yeah, I get you. Not gonna agree or disagree, on account of I don't wanna get too confrontational today. But I do admire your willingness to reply to every single post in any TB that you are involved in. On a vacation day, no less. At the very least, you sir are dedicated to what you believe in. And that is admirable. <P> So don't try to start shit with me.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    p0llk4t

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by AsimovLives

    You are a nice guy too, when you make the effort, and you are doing one so admirably now. So, as far as i'm concerned and for now you are in my cool list. I have the feeling i can converse intelligently with you, and even shoot some shit for laughs, and i'm sure i'm not wrong about that, am i right?

  • July 27, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    and asimov

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i also have to give you credit for pretty much single handedly keeping this talkback in the number one spot now all day.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by AsimovLives

    You give me too much credit.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Series7

    What difference does it make if I was a frat boy? Seeing that most supposed frat boys probably wouldn't waster their time on this site. <P> I bet you never even went to college. Also since I guess you called me frat boy you know that I can and did used to dump your ass in the dumpster and give you swirlies.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    it's fucking Chernobyl here!

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    AAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUGGHHHHH*gurgle*

  • July 27, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Hey Royal Douchemaster...you have a cool list?

    by p0llk4t

    Loser. Too bad the only guy on your cool list is your alias TedKordLives. You really are dumber than a bucket of bull turds.<br><br>Please exit the planet so you can stop taking up valuable oxygen, carbon, and bandwidth. No one will miss you I promise.

  • July 27, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    AsimovLive: Fair enough, your nick is your nick.

    by bobjustbob

    I guess the point really not the name, but the person person behind the name. To quote Richard Feynmen:<p> " I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something."<p> Please don't take this as a jab, but it doesn't matter WHAT NICK you give yourself, the WHO that is YOURSELF is well defined.<p>The fact is we have very similar taste in movies, it's mainly the inter-personal skills that define us as distinct entities, not our names. I can change my name, but that doesn't change me.<p>I have other things I could say and advise to give, but I've (and many others) have gone down that road before. Be who you are and take care.<p> Bobby

  • July 27, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Thanks Asi

    by TedKordLives

    Though the winds of fortune shift constantly on this site, I will remain determined not to engage you in any sort of fanboy rage-fueled diatribes. Any differences of opinion we have I will chalk up to a language barrier. <P> See how that's done, people? And nobody got called any nasty names. TedKordLives, paragon of virtue right here folks!

  • July 27, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    no asi, no one is even talking about trek anymore

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    its all just reactions to you, which i think is what the people want despite their bitching about you hijacking tb's they are more than happy to just hand it over to you by being so reactionary.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by AsimovLives

    Thank you for caling me by my nick. I appreciate it.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    And i did went to college

    by AsimovLives

    Studied sociobiology and social sciences. So much for your presumption. So, i guessed rigth something about you, but you didn't about me. I'm not suprised.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    p0llk4t

    by AsimovLives

    Retard.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    I have a sneaky suspicion none of these tb wars have anything to do with movies, or even hating people, people just like to see shit burn and explode. Heck i've even stroked up arguments about things i didnt even believe in or give two shits about just to see people lose their shit and draw more civvies into the bolero. I'm a sick fuck and so are youu, and you and YOU

  • July 27, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    bobjustbob

    by AsimovLives

    What's in a name? A lot. There's lots to be known about me from my nick alone.<br><br>You quoted from Richard Feynman, which means you are automatically in my cool book and call you a friend.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by AsimovLives

    Absolute kick ass! You shine, brother, you shine!

  • July 27, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    TSC

    by TedKordLives

    Yeah, me too, man, but when someone is that vitriolic, my impulse is to try to defuse the situation. I can't help it. It's my hero reflex, I guess. <P> That said, I have had days where I'd antagonize people just for the hell of it. That's really the only reason to come here anymore. We all know it, and we acknowledge it from time to time, but it's a mostly unspoken agreement we have here. I just can't help but...well, try to help from time to time. <P> Anyway, FUCK YOUR MOTHER, I'M OUT!

  • July 27, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    martinlutherkrangjr

    by AsimovLives

    Guess what, i only want to talk about Dawson's Trek. But i'll not crass stupidity go answered, if you know what i mean. Well, some i do, because it's too lame to even deserve a proper answer.<br><br>Can i just ask you a tinny weeny question? What you reckon is my "reactionary2 nature? Or am i musunderstanding something here? fopr me reactionary has socio-political implications, you know, that's how i know the word. Like, neo-cons are reactionaries. And social and politically-wise, i'm the very opposite. Thus my curiosity. Don't take me wrong for asking you this, OK?<br><br>And really, why i haven't known you before? You're quality.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    FUCK ALL OF YORU MOTHERS YOU ASS SHIT NUGGEST EVERYONE HERE

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    COMON HIT ME

  • July 27, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by AsimovLives

    Personally, i findthe type of antogonization as perpectuated by the likes of Mr Nice Gaius and his little helpers to be the epitome of retardness and stupidity. It's completly personal. Which is so stupid. It's one thing for people to rail up agaisnt others because they have deep convictions and are making huge emotional investment on defending their side. It's another to go onj personal attacks that seeve no porpose whatsoever otehr then some kinky form of personal gratification from bullish behavior. That i cannot abode. And that's retard beyond measure.

  • July 27, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    ASIMOV