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Comic-Con: Peter Jackson and James Cameron talk shop, KING KONG Universal Ride, AVATAR, BATTLE ANGEL and TEMERAIRE!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. After a long, long, long, long, long day, I kicked up my feet and tried to catch up on the massive Warner Bros Panel article while sitting at the back of Hall H during James Cameron and Peter Jackson’s panel… And then they decided to fuck that up for me as they talked about really interesting things. Sure, the bulk of it is talk about old tech vs. new and how great 3-D is, but I kept getting distracted by these two giants. AVATAR: Cameron said he spent so much time developing this world that there’s a lot more use he can get out of it. Sequels are definitely something he’s interested in, providing, of course, the movie does well and the sequel is wanted. He also mentioned wanting to put a version of the movie on the DVD that is just the raw footage of the actors doing their performance capture so everyone can see just how pure of a process it is, how much the end result is the actors. BATTLE ANGEL ALITA: “It’s a good idea to have your next gig lined up in case AVATAR tanks.” Laughs, but says it’s still on his plate, as are other projects that aren’t as heavily effects driven. “It’s not a great time to ask a woman if she wants more kids when she’s crowning.” TEMERAIRE: Peter’s still very keen to adapt Naomi Novik’s series and says once HOBBIT gets going he’ll look at it. KING KONG at UNIVERSAL: Peter talked about the King Kong attraction he’s working on at Universal to replace the KING KONG part of the tram ride that burned down. The lovely Genevieve Blaber (aka ScarletScribe) at Latino Review wrote about it a couple months back (Click here to read that), but Jackson expanded a bit. He talked about the set-up… a tram rolls into a dark hall, lights go down and suddenly you’re surrounded by screens at all sides, using the Cinerama process, but instead of 3 projectors they’re using 8. If you remember I detailed the Cinerama process recently in my A MOVIE A WEEK column focusing on HOW THE WEST WAS WON (click here for that)… and the idea of an 8 projector Cinerama immersive experience has me giddy. The idea is you’re trapped on Skull Island and get caught in-between Kong a team of Rexes… You’ll feel slobber, dino breath, wind, etc… How cool? That’s a little update. Now off for a tech check for the Solomon Kane panel I’m moderating tomorrow, an appearance at the hot ticket Wrath of Con party and then back to finish up my WB coverage and catch some sleep. -Quint Follow Me On Twitter

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  • July 24, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Avatar franchise?

    by scnjedi

    Could be good. Not surprised though.

  • July 24, 2009, 11:54 p.m. CST

    that was it?

    by StarchildAD

    ....great report

  • July 24, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Is it a V-Rex?

    by zacdilone

    What was up with those dumbass dino names in "King Kong" anyway?

  • July 25, 2009, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Even more....

    by MajorFrontbum

    ...pointless CGI garbage. Good quality CGI isn't here yet, it may be in another 25 years. EVERYTHING that is out there, looks too artificial and it sticks out like dogs balls.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Everybody hated the Kong vs Rex Scene

    by mitortilla

    It was too much, I don't know if people would want to relive that again.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    C'mon! Kong vs. the Rex's was great!

    by Teddy Artery

    Pure cinematic dynamite!

  • July 25, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Kong V Rex was good...

    by Adelai Niska

    ...for the first half hour. By the time the rex was swinging like tarzan I was wondering how many better movies could have been made on the T-rex budget. <p> But, Jackson's Kong could have been AMAZING if the whole film ran 90 minutes.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    KONG VS REX was cool!

    by Mennen

  • July 25, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    P jackson you know what would be even cooler way to present Kong

    by CapnJake

    The way it had been for years at Universal Studios Florida, i promise you this new kong abomination will in now way live up to the kongfrontation that entertained billions at universal orlando for years.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:23 a.m. CST

    I'm glad I lived the Kongfrontation

    by mitortilla

    and smelled his banana breath. Why fix shit if it ain't broken. It was burnt, but not broken.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST


    by Mennen

    I need some sleep fellas.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST

    slobber, dino breath, wind...

    by StonedWriter88

    im not sure about that. 3d revolution!

  • July 25, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Dino breath is awesome... right?

    by Mennen

  • July 25, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST

    no Land of the Lost ride?

    by kafka07

    WIll Farrell teabagging and flatulating would be cooler than dino breath.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Actually, Everybody Hated The Bronto Stampede

    by GordoSan#1

    The 'Rex scene was great.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST

    KING KONG (2005) sucks.

    by one9deuce

    Peter, Kong is supposed to be the antagonist, not the protagonist. That being said, the V-Rex sequence is fucking awesome and the ride sounds interesting. <p> AVATAR franchise? Great! I love that Cameron developed it with that in mind. Who does sequels better than James Cameron? Nobody!

  • July 25, 2009, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Na'vi look like shit

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    I hope Cameron has a better vision for Battle Angel then Avatar.<P> I can't wait to hear how he has dumb it down for a broader audience.

  • July 25, 2009, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Temeraire is rad

    by FailureAtTheCave

    For some reason, whilst reading the books Philip Glenister from Life On Mars is already cast in my mind as Laurence.

  • July 25, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    KING KONG (2005) more than just sucks

    by BoRock_A_Boomer

    It sucks shit. Jackson just put it behind his no longer but will be fat again ass.

  • July 25, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST

    First Temeraire book was really good

    by DinoBass

    and the goodwill from that one got me through a mediocre 2nd installment but I bailed halfway through the 3rd.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 25, 2009, 3 a.m. CST

    Why doesn't Jackson...

    by MajorFrontbum up a Mrs Jackson theme park, so fanboys can go ride her instead?

  • July 25, 2009, 3:06 a.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

    HE'S SO HUGE!!!

  • July 25, 2009, 3:32 a.m. CST


    by Pitofbenders

    Seriously, I loved the first book, but the second one slowed to a crawl, and I forced myself to get through the third, which finally picked up near the last hundred pages or so. The 4th and 5th books are out, but I'm not sure if I want to try and get through them, love the characters, just have to get past some boring storytelling to get to anything good at times.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:34 a.m. CST

    They talked for an hour...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    and this is all that came out of it?

  • July 25, 2009, 4:19 a.m. CST


    by Mullah Omar

    First book was outstanding, second was a bit slow in the middle, and third was when it was kind of deflating when you realized that this series had a LONG way to go. Last one I read was the 4th, which had a whimper of an ending. <br> <br> Despite all that, this is the sort of series that would be great on HBO. You could focus on a few chapters per episode rather than one book per film - which would be fine, because the endings of books three and four felt very arbitrarily-timed anyway. If they do a feature film, the only one I could really whole-heartedly endorse would be the first book. <br> <br> People who dig both MASTER AND COMMANDER and fantasy films should be salivating over the prospect of Jackson adapting TEMERAIRE.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:21 a.m. CST



    are you kidding? Peter is thin now. Seriously.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:42 a.m. CST

    Yeah was thin like back in '05

    by barnaby jones

    He could of done with cutting the fat off King Kong while he was at it.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Maybe Im an idiot

    by Mr. Graboid

    But I didn't get the last bit about Battle Angel. Is he doing it or what???

  • July 25, 2009, 5 a.m. CST

    And for the record

    by Mr. Graboid

    I liked 80% of Peter Jacksons King Kong. I'm sure I would have liked it a 100% if he had done it as original planned though...

  • July 25, 2009, 7:04 a.m. CST

    "Why not make 3 screens bigger?"

    by kikuchiyoboy

    "But ours got 8"

  • July 25, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Attendance at Comc Con

    by teethgnasher

    How is the attendance at Comic Con? Does it like the economy affected it? Just curious.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Everybody hated Jack Black.

    by Uncle Stan

  • July 25, 2009, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Tonight, I spoke to God.


    I was one of the audience members who got to ask Cameron and Jackson a question. I asked Cameron about when he decides a script is ready or "good enough" to put into production. I also got to take a jab at Michael Bay and Transformers 2 (as did Cameron) in front of 6000 people. <p> Best. Evening. Ever.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:29 a.m. CST

    BTW, Good meeting you Friday, Harry!!


    That was the other SDCC hilight for me so far.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:40 a.m. CST


    by CharyouTree

    what was his answer?, and Kong 05 is a good movie could have been great with around 90 mins cut, the middle hour is worth it.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:50 a.m. CST should have represented...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...talkbackers everywhere and asked Mr. Cameron how he feels about The Eyeball Rape controversy of 09. Does he feel pressure to perform? Would he really prefer that eyeball rape had never been introduced into the dialogue at all? Does he think our eyeballs were acting in a provocative and suggestive manner and had it coming? Does an eyeball ever have rape coming or does the full weight of the law always fall entirely on the eyeball rapist? Is eyeball rape a sexual act or is it always just about assault and violence? We already know Mr. Cameron pretty well by now, so is it a case of assault rape or more of a date rape situation? Does the fact that my eyeballs have given it up for ALIENS on at least 57 separate occasions make me look like a slut? Does it weaken my case?

  • July 25, 2009, 7:51 a.m. CST

    I really wish I could tell you, CharyouTree


    Fact of the matter was that he was answering the question and my brain was screaming 'JAMES FUCKING CAMERON IS TALKING TO ME!!" My head was practically numb for the first half of his response, but I believe he basically said he knows that as the film is in production, things will evolve, actors will have other, often better ideas than what's on the page, plus the editing process is truly the final draft of the script (which I had heard him talk about many times before.) <p> I don't truly think I phrased my question exactly the way I intended to - I wanted to ask, "What measure do you go by that tells you 'This is ready. This will make a good movie.'" But I compared how Bay FAILED to get the TF2 script up to snuff before shooting it, versus Jim's 100% track record of great writing, and he kind of took the question from there, before I could fully clarify what I was getting at. <p> Still... it was AWESOME.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Funny, Flick.


    I detest using the term "LOL," but you did bring me a healthy grin, sir. <p> Actually, the guy behind me asked Jim "When are you ever gonna make Aquaman?" Which I thought was both a fine reference joke and a good capper question, since he was supposed to be the last to ask one. It got a decent laugh from the crowd, IIRC. But Jim was pretty forthright in telling him, "Ah, you wasted your question." So I'm glad I didn't try to waste his time like that. <p> But it would be interesting to know if he's aware of the eyeball rape controversy.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Cheers LlGHTST0RMER

    by CharyouTree

    you lucky mo-fo, theres vids of the interview on Marketsaw 3d ill check them out too. Did you get to see the Avatar footage too?<p> The mixed views are intriguing, Devin from CHUD says cartoony? and D9's better? While others are going overboard with "hes gone to another planet and filmed there". I think Jacksons Kong had amazing CGI the only problems was when there was a human in the shot.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    King King vs, T-Rex ride awesome, my eyeballs hurt.

    by JDanielP

    And my eyes are ready for... A V A T A R.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    hey Harry!!

    by dingleberryjerry

    I've been a visitor to this site for over 5 years now and I always wanted to know what you do in your spare time. You said that you watched the Watchmen DVD 3 times since you got it!! That's over 10 hours man!!! Do you and your wife do anything else??? Enjoy the sunshine? Bargain shopping? Frisbee at the park? Seriously. You obviously have major health problems. Maybe you should look at changing your priorities. And before you dickhards get on me..I know I am wasting my time on a computer. Knowing when to stop is all part of growin' up to be big boys and girls!!

  • July 25, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    King Kong ride?

    by PessimusGrime

    You mean they want to build a ride where the riders are bored to near madness for 2 1/2+ hours by Jack Black and crappy CGI?

  • July 25, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    I really don't get the point of a PJ KK ride

    by StarWarsRedux

    The movie itself was arguably a near failure, financially, and unquestionably a total failure, creatively. Why bother putting all this money and effort into a ride based on a version of a film that not everyone remember, few people care about, and even fewer people enjoyed? It'd be like commissioning a "Johnny Mnemonic" ride. Sure, it'd be fun if you're a Gibson fan, but nobody else gives a damn.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST


    by Verbage

    Keanu Reeves was in Johnny Mnemonic, not Mel Gibson.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    king kong in hindsight

    by Fearsme

    it's funny to see now how King Kong is reviled. When it came out, Empire was giving it 5 stars. It sucked then. It sucks now. The same thing happened with Superman Returns.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST



    ...really? Was that meant to be a joke? Please say yes.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    "raw footage of the actors doing their performance capture"

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    We've already seen this in the DVD extras of a lot of other movies already like the Star Wars prequels, TDK, etc. Unless it's something entirely different because of the 3-D aspect, this isn't anything we haven't seen before.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Yeah, the Bronto stampede sucked

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    The stampede was too much CGI to begin with, add to it the snapping velociraptos and it was just wayyy over the top. Seeing Jack Black pretending to scurry thru Bronto legs didn't help.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Verbage-- I'm talking about William Gibson

    by StarWarsRedux

    The writer of "Johnny Mnemonic". Understandable error, I suppose.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST


    by Pitofbenders

    Well that doesn't give me much hope of wanting to read the 4th book now, BUT I would love to see the world put on film. Loved Master And Commander, and would really like to see dragons put into something like that. A HBO series could be cool as well, they would have to get some good writers to beef up the drama for the show tho...

  • July 25, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST


    by Verbage

    Okay, I had no idea that William Gibson directed "Johnny Mnemonic", or who that is, but the fact that you did kind of defeats your point. Think about it.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Not director, writer

    by Verbage

    Once again, I oouldn't give 2 shits about it.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    BATTLE ANGEL ALITA Is So Not Happening

    by LaserPants

    But I really, REALLY wish it was.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Jack Black poisons everything he's in. He sucks!

    by Alfie Boy

  • July 25, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Jack Black poisons everything he's in. He sucks!

    by Alfie Boy

    Casting killed PJ KK, not the intent.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Pretty Poor Comic Con so far

    by vadakinX

    Am I the only one underwhelmed by Comic Con this year? At least in terms of announcements and reveals. <p> The Avatar footage is probably the biggest thing so far but there hasn't been much else. The Star Wars Spectacular yesterday for example. Lucasfilm had said they were making some big announcement at the conference but all we got was information on stuff we already knew about. <p> I personally had my fingers crossed for Star Wars Blu Ray since Clones Wars is being released on the format. <p> AICN spent the last week complaining that all the big stuff was happening in the first 2 days. So far I've been pretty disappointed.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Verbage, that WAS my point

    by StarWarsRedux

    Do I like "Johnny Mnemonic"? Sure, but I wouldn't expect it to get a Universal ride anytime soon. Like it or not, PJ's KK is pretty much in the same boat. It was, at best, something of a cult hit with Jackson's fans. A high profile cult hit, but by mainstream standards it was pure mediocrity. Doesn't exactly merit the franchise treatment.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    William Gibson did not direct it

    by BrundleFlyboy

    Verbage, you are a retard.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    King Kong was so awful

    by SmokingRobot

    Jack Black was awful. The CGI was awful. The movie had no idea what it was supposed to be. A total trainwreck.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST



    I sat through the Star Wars Snoozetacular yesterday and good LORD it was underwhelming to say the least. I was also hoping for a Blu-Ray announcement, though I knew the likelihood was nil. Olivia whatsername from G4 in the tiny Leia robe was good. Everything else was teh suck for sure.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    King Kong CGI...

    by BrundleFlyboy

    I really don't think you can generalise that it was 'awful'; sure, the quality was all over the place but Kong himself was a CGI masterpiece. The Bronto bit is obviously the low point in the effects but there are parts that are fantastic as well.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST


    by Verbage

    I already wrote that he didn't direct it...pot. kettle. black. But I don't know shit about Johnny Mnemonic other than it was a really shitty movie with Keanu Reeves in it, and I assumed that was everyone's level of Johnny Mnemnonic knowledge. <p> But no, you guys are the fucking Johnny Mnemonic experts and you know all about the writer and director of that piece of shit. I admit it. I'm not a geek. I don't belong here.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST


    by BrundleFlyboy

    Retard was harsh my man... I don't know much about that film other than it was a bit shit. I am no expert. I just thought anyone here would know of William Gibson. I am only a demi-geek myself!

  • July 25, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST

    And StarWars Redux

    by Verbage

    Despite your insistence that King Kong was a failure, it was already a ride at Universal, and a fun ride at that. Most of the world doesn't go to Universal Studios and say, "My God, why is this a ride? The Box office returns weren't nearly as stellar as the expectations, and the budget took a big chunk of the profit, so it's hardly worthy of a ride." No, the rest of the world doesn't do that, and there's a good reason for it.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    What I want to know is...

    by BrundleFlyboy

    When the fuck is PJ gonna give us the special edition dvds of Bad Taste and Braindead he waffled on about a couple of years back. Hmmmm?

  • July 25, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Dante's Peak...

    by BrundleFlyboy

    Didn't this get a ride or something once? And that was a turd and then some.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Verbage, the original film inspired the original ride

    by StarWarsRedux

    And the original KK is a classic. No argument there. I'm just saying that PJ's KK is not a classic, and frankly a little surprising as the inspiration for a new ride. Is it going to be a little more recognized, having come out only four years ago? Perhaps, sure. But at the end of the day, the new KK was a rather forgettable affair, so I wonder how long it's going to remain active in peoples' memories regarding this new attraction. Movie theme-park rides thrive upon recognition-- "Star Tours" was relatively safe for years due to SW's perennial popularity. Same thing with "Terminator 3-D" and "Back to the Future", though with somewhat diminishing results over time. I can understand the impulse to modernize the KK ride, but I really doubt it'll have the staying power of any of those rides, because let's face it-- the PJ film didn't have any staying power of its own, whatsoever. They'd have been better off making a LOTR ride of some kind-- now THAT'S something that people would line up to see for years to come...

  • July 25, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST


    by WhoDis

    Right! and a decent edition of MEET THE FEEBLES for chrissakes. If he doesn't have time for these now, he never will.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    King Kong (2005)

    by WhoDis

    anyone that loves monsters, dinosaurs, Ray Harryhausen movies cannot hate this movie. period. it's not a perfect movie, but it doesn't deserve the amount of hate that it brings, especially when movies like Transformers 2 and G-Force stalk the Earth.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Right on WhoDis...

    by morGoth

    ...lawks, the fanboys on here act as if PJ's Kong was the worst movie ever made. While I realize this is a back-handed compliment, Jackson's Kong makes this summer's blocbusters look like a kids home movie by comparison. PJ just needs a good, objective editor. It sounds like the Universal ride will be a lot of fun.

  • July 25, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Maybe on the Ride

    by mitortilla

    King Kong can butt skate on ice to a romantic tune. Faggy shit, King Kong is supposed to be scarry! he's a universal friggin' monsteeer!

  • July 25, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    He was scarry...

    by BrundleFlyboy

    he had a great big scar right down his face.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Jackson will make Temeraire GOOD

    by performingmonkey

    The Temeraire series is a great idea, much like The Lovely Bones which Peter has adapted for later this year, but both books are fairly lame in their execution and peter out (lol, PETER out...) as they go on. I have every faith that Peter has injected the much-needed life into The Lovely Bones, particularly it's second half. Temeraire is something that could be AMAZING in the right hands, and Peter's hands are those. Think of the scenes in ROTK with people riding on the back of the Mumakil, Temeraire will be like that x 10! More emotional connections with characters is needed in the Temeraire series. Most of the crew aren't fleshed out enough, and they NEED to make the female characters like Harcourt (if that's her name, can't remember) have a lot more to do.

  • July 25, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    PJ is great as long as you get his finger off...

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    ...the fucking slo-mo edit feature that he likes to use in every single action scene. And KK (2005) was dreadful. If you take a shot everytime you see an extreme close up of Naomi Watts face looking scared/bewildered you will be absolutely shitfaced by the movie's end if not dead from alcohol poisoning. I LOVED the LOTR trilogy (tho it did have too much slo mo) but KK, I just didn't care for. I do, however, have very high hopes for THE LOVELY BONES and THE HOBBIT.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST


    by catlettuce4

    whatever happened to?

  • July 25, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    TEMERAIRE supporting characters & the Red Shirt Factor

    by Mullah Omar

    ...get killed off on such a regular basis I'm not sure how much time you need to flesh them out. I think most of them get enough characterization for as long as they last (since the series is a bloodbath) or appear (since the players change depending on the mission). <br> <br> As for women, there are more for a Napoleonic War context than you'd usually have, and they have plenty to do. I don't recall fans of MASTER AND COMMANDER lamenting that film's lack of estrogen. <br> <br> I totally agree, however, that the series will need some adaptation to really fly (except the first book), and that Jackson is a great person to do so.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    starwars redux

    by mjp

    "Verbage, the original film inspired the original ride And the original KK is a classic. No argument there" No, it didn't. The Universal Studios tour ride was based on the 1976 Kong. It throws you in 1976 New York. It's not based on the RKO Kong.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST


    by mjp

    The 2005 Jackson movie made $200 million in American and $550 million worldwide. It might be one of the most recognizable things on the tour (let alone the whole park)- certainly moreso than Earthquake or Tokyo Drift.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    by cseresz

    Other factors also affect a film's profitability besides box office sales, such as the DVD sales. King Kong, sold over $100 million worth of DVDs in the largest six-day performance in Universal Studios history.[22] As of April 3, 2006, King Kong has sold more than 7.5 million DVDs, accumulating over $140 million worth of sales numbers, domestically alone. As of June 25, 2006 King Kong has generated almost $38 million from DVD rental gross.

  • July 25, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg


  • July 25, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    a bayformers ride would be awesome

    by mitortilla

    like it or not.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    A Transformers ride would be cool

    by lockesbrokenleg


  • July 25, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Why Does Everyone Think Avatar Is Going To Be Good?

    by WhoWha

    Honestly, why is this film so high up there on the geekdar? I would really like to know.

  • July 25, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    And surprise...

    by PessimusGrime

    ...PJ KK is on TNT today, following Spider-Man and preceding Fast & Furious: Tokyo Drift as part of their apparent "Suck-Ass Marathon" or something. As an added plus,the endless commercials are all for eHarmony, everyone's favorite bigoted, Christer online dating site who's specialty seems to be producing genetically engineered yuppie drones to appear in their ads. Think I'll go mow the yard, it's 101 degrees out today, but that's nothing compared to the hell of watching TNT today!

  • July 25, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    TNT shows the shame shit every weekend

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It's usually Spider Man 2, King Kong, and then Saving Private Ryan

  • July 25, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST


    by TheNewDirector

    You don't know why AVATAR is high up on the geekdar? Do some fucking research

  • July 25, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    KK a failure financially??

    by slappy jones

    nonsense.thats like when a band sells 10 million albums and then the next album only sells 5 mill and its called a flop. it made 550 mill ww at the bo and is the 4th biggest universal film of all time. out of their entire catalogue. creatively? thats in the eye of he beholder but it was not a financial failure.

  • July 25, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    It was king kong the biggest movie in history

    by mitortilla

    done by the guy that had just won the best picture for the massive LOTR trilogy, it doesn't say anything nonetheless that it was a good movie.

  • July 25, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    KK was decent. I enjoyed it

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I got to see it 2 weeks before it came out thanks to a pre screening.

  • July 25, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Battle Angel is still on

    by TurdontheRun

    No idea what LaserPants is talking about. Cameron was asked about it at Comic Con and in several other interviews he's done in the last few days. Its still something he plans on doing, it's just a question of which project, out of the many he's been developing, to go with next, and which makes the most sense in which order.<p>Cameron's follow up to Avatar could be either Battle Angel, The Dive, Forbidden Planet, or Ghosts of Vesuvius, based on his known projects - there could be others we know nothing about. Or he may decide to go straight into back-to-back Avatar sequels, depending on how that film is received. Not to mention, there is his Heavy Metal segment as well.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Temeraire is AWESOME

    by FeralAngel

    Great books, some of the best written I've ever read. Novik writes them in the style of the classics like Three Musketeers and Scarlet Pimpernel. How much that'll translate to film remains to be seen. But for god's sake, I hope the dragons look GOOD, and not like spiky winged dinosaurs. That's been the failing of every recent movie dragon, including the one in Eragon. I hope Smaug looks good too. And I hope Jackson captures the bright color and humor of the Hobbit - it's a lighter, more whimsical novel than the "Rings" books, and I hope to god Jackson doesn't glum it up to make it seem more "real" or "adult" or all that crap.

  • July 25, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Worse than hated, the King Kong remake has simply been forgotten

    by Flim Springfield

    And that's a good thing. When people think of King Kong, they should remember the 1933 monster, not the 2005 ape.

  • July 26, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Transformers ride is on the way

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    Coming to Universal Hollywood and Japan

  • July 26, 2009, 1:16 a.m. CST

    yeah 2010 or 11' I saw, it looks like a 3d thingy

    by mitortilla

    hope its not a coaster.

  • July 26, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Flim Springfield

    by one9deuce

    Nice post, and you're exactly right. One of the biggest problems with Peter Jackson's KING KONG is that he made Kong a gorilla. A big, giant, silverback gorilla. King Kong is a monster. He might BE a giant gorilla, but the Kong that Willis O'Brien made is completely original and unique looking. If you showed a picture of the King Kong from 1933 to a thousand people, all one thousand would say "that's King Kong". If you showed a picture of the 2005 King Kong to a thousand people you would hear "it's a gorilla" a lot.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Maybe He'll Do BATTLE ANGEL, Maybe He Won't

    by LaserPants

    He does say its in his long list of *possible* projects, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If Avatar tanks, maybe. If Avatar does well? Forget it. It'll be an Avatar trilogy, then more undersea documentaries, then retirement.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

    Good Lord you are full of shit.

  • July 26, 2009, 7:54 a.m. CST

    StarWars Redux

    by Verbage

    Even if you were right about King Kong being a failure, and all the rest of it, I disagree with the notion that a movie must be a box office success to be a ride. I think sometimes bad movies would make better rides, kind of like how the worst movies always made better video games, at least on the Original NES. Same thing with pinball games - the Lord of the Rings pinball game sucks dick, but the best movie-based pinball game I've played is Congo. Shitty movie, awesome game. <p> There should be a Spacehunter 3-D ride, or a C.H.U.D. ride. Or a In Praise of Older Women ride, where you take a train through a bunch of cafes, bars, and libraries while all these cougars try to fuck you.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST


    by one9deuce

    I'm "full of shit"? Are you saying that 2005 Kong looks original or unique? If you think that you're either blind or Peter Jackson.

  • July 26, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    "Fake" rides

    by JuntMonkey

    I hate the trend more and more towards making rides with movie screens and fancy 3D tricks rather than actually building real, detailed sets and big animatronics. All of the needed elements for a great ride have been around for over 40 years. The Disneyland (not Florida) Pirates of the Caribbean is an unbelievable ride. Massive "rooms", attention to detail, etc.

  • July 26, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man at IoA is an incredible ride

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    That incorporates both 3d and an actual ride through with detail. This is what Transformers is supposed to be like, and a Harry Potter attraction at IoA will incorporate similar tech. I get what JuntMonkey is saying about the old school audio animatronic Disney epics like Pirates and Haunted Mansion, I too long for more rides like it, but just cause it uses 3d doesn't make it bad.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    I also hated KK2005

    by lonniebeale

    KING KONG VS GODZILLA was better.

  • July 26, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    by mitortilla

    That's gonna be awesome.

  • July 26, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Both of the Kongs looked pretty damn good

    by lockesbrokenleg

    There is no way you can say that the KK in the 2005 Kong looked terrible. No way.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    yea Peter "willpower" jackson is thin now

    by celebritydave

    had his stomach cut in half so he cant eat so much. while we are talking fat bastards, cameron could drop a few pounds too!!! and get a hair cut.

  • July 26, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST


    by celebritydave

    sucked balls. a 9 hour boat ride ffs. "them lovely bones" is gonna be great though! cant wait

  • July 26, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Boring Con!

    by Saltoner

    I have to say, so far every tidbit coming out of Comic Con 09 seems pretty boring. All the stuff this site and other sites are reporting is nothing new and in fact most of it quite underwhelming. Me sad!

  • July 26, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Jackson and Cameron on one panel

    by OutlawsDelejos

    and that's what you bring me? What the fuck?

  • July 26, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Really wish

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    he'd done Battle Angel first<p> You know, before Dances With Wolves Redoux

  • July 26, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    People must be blind.

    by MajorFrontbum

    King Kong versus the Rex looked too artificial and clearly looks out of place in a film with live actors. CGI is one of the things responsible, for the decline of modern cinema and filmmakers need to realize this.

  • July 26, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Hopefuly they won't be referencing Jackson's Kong

    by Flip63Hole

    for the ride. I can see him learning from the mistake of that film and trying to bury any memory of it by honoring the real Kong films. If I see Jack Black start jogging under a dinorsaur while carrying a 100 lb. movie camera I'm jumping out of the rollercoaster, injuries be damned.

  • July 27, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Hopefully they won't make a Directv ad with Kong 2005

    by Orionsangels

    Jackson's new Kong ride has everyone forced to wear 30's period clothes

  • July 27, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST

    King Kong versus the Rex looked too artificial

    by lockesbrokenleg


  • July 27, 2009, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Let's make all biopics then

    by mitortilla

    I agree with lockesbrokenleg, self indulgent, tacky, gaudí, yes. I wish they did more fantastic and incredibly artificial things in movies.

  • July 27, 2009, 3:55 a.m. CST

    fuck i am sick of people complaining about CG....

    by slappy jones

    and blaming it for the "death of cinema" what a load of shit. if it wasn't for these big spectacle movies theatres would be going out of business. as would the studios. there are still plenty of great low key movies more serious minded films out there. fucking tons of them. there has always been crap and always been good films. it is not like they didn't make some shit back in the 70's. there was shit before CG. its not like CG came along and films got shit all of sudden whilst beforehand every film was a gem.sure the crap gets all the attention but thats because the crap makes the giant dollars. If you don't want blockbusters don't go see them, don't read about them stay away from them. if you think getting rid of CGI will change anything it won't. Do you really think theatres would thrive on frozen river and alone? if you want to blame anything blame terrible writing not CG.

  • July 27, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST

    @ Slappy Jones

    by sherlock_junior

    I agree Slappy Jones: Nobody was complaining when they where in awe of th liquid metal in T2. Those effect still hold up today. They are creative, well made, well shot, well lit, speak to the imagination and accompanied by a great and evolving story. I personally think AVATAR will be the next best thing and can't wait for the return of the king of the world.

  • July 27, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Both Kongs do not look great.

    by one9deuce

    The CGI for 2005 Kong is breathtakingly good. But his design? He just looks like a silverback gorilla, how is that even remotely interesting? That would be like having Darth Maul be some normal looking guy in a business suit. King Kong shouldn't look like anything else, he is unique in the world and his look should be also. <p> And anyone here that thinks the Kong vs the V-Rex's looks bad is a fool. Now the Bronto stampede, that looks like shit.

  • July 27, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Boring? My 1st Con, & I talked to Cameron & PJ!


    First time I ever went, and the first day I was there, I saw 24 minutes in 3D of a movie I've been waiting 10 years for. The next day I was there, I talked to the director of Lord Of The Rings and my favorite filmmaker since 1994! Sure, I didn't see a whole lot else, maybe, but I didn't need mcuh more for ME to be happy!

  • July 27, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST


    by JuntMonkey

    I am fine with CG when it is absolutely necessary. However, as much as possible, you need to use puppets, animatronics, and REAL sets.

  • July 28, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    i think kong uniqueness came in the fact

    by slappy jones

    he was fucking gigantic.