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TRON LEGACY SDCC Concept Footage Officially Released In Glorious QuickTime!! Light Cycles!! Flynn!! Clu!! Some Poor Bastard!!
Merrick here...
Last year, Disney stunned ComicCon by running a clip of "concept footage" (test footage) from what was then called TR2N (now TRON LEGACY). The footage was shown again at yesterday's Disney panel - this time in 3D.
Since its initial presentation, we've only seen crappy, shaky cam captures of said footage on YouTube - which kinda/sorta suggested what the SDCC audience saw, but were frustrating at best. Disney has now released high quality versions of the footage, in various forms of Glorious QuickTime.
Keep in mind: this may not be final material - FX, design work, etc. may have been altered substantially between the creation of this reel and production of the film itself. Nonetheless, this is a very tantalizing glimpse at what we have in store for us late next year.
GET YOUR ASS TO THE GAME GRID!!!
GET YOUR ASS TO THE GAME GRID!!!
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ditto
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That was TOTALLY awesome!!!
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So far, so good.
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myself
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Nerdtastic!
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Sorry. This looks retarded. Gae technology has come too far, and even outdates this glossed-over "re-imagining" of a very dull looking computer world.
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never had a childhood and will probably end up like MJ
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Awesome x 3. But screw them for still making me watch that crappy version for a whole damn year.
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FUCK ALL YOU JAMES CAMERON COCKSUCKERS!!
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than Jump to the game grid.... it has a certain edge to it.
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I don't often have positive things to say, 'bout stuff the 'creatives' do... But, that footage, even if unfinished, looks f*cking sweet. Saw the original in the theatre 1st week out... If this is even half or a quarter as good, that's good enough for me... Sweet!!!
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...in that you get to hear a completely unassuming audience discover what it was that was unveiling before their eyes. I love hearing the cheers get louder and louder as more and more people start to realize they're getting an unannounced Tron sequel, culminating in the geekgasm of seeing that Jeff Bridges is back as well.
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Whether or not you like the music. Yeah, I said it. I think if people hate electronic scores, they'll say "meh" to this. I think the music sounds great, hope they don't completely change it (is Wendy aka Juan Carlos still alive?)
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I can notice so much, like the blue guy had a mustache. Who knew? The old footage was so bad looking. This is fantastic looking in Quicktime!!!! Crank this puppy up in surround!!!!
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Is slyly buying your eyeballs a drink and slyly slipping a roofie into said drink, only to take your eyeballs home later and coerce said eyeballs into hard anal, THIS AUGUST
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Holy Cow! That was beautiful....
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...but it sure smells good!
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Two hours of watching THAT in 3D will really fuck up my eyeballs.
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Agreed, the crowd reactions in the YouTube version were great. That said, it's awesome to finally see it clearly! Can't wait.
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I'm just amazed that after all these years, companies are still completely incapable of creating lifelike movement when it comes to fully-body CGI characters. The movement of most living things is jerky, not perfectly and flawlessly smooth. The over-the-top fluidity of every single exaggerated CGI movement made by digitized characters just looks utterly ridiculous. Every movement of the limbs and body is just so animated and unnatural it completely takes me right out of the movie every single time. I understand they wanted to take the cheap way out by using all CGI for the bike scenes, so they wouldn't have to work extra hard to get the same "eXtreme camera angles" that are possible by just doing everything digital, but come on. It's 2009, and although texturing and rendering have come a long way and things may look much better in still-frame than they did years ago, when it comes to the animation factor, these companies are still using the same crappy philosophies of "Oh well we'll just do the motion capture and smooth it all out and it'll look great".I felt that Gollum was a step in the right direction back when Two Towers was released, maybe a sign of slight progress when it comes to CGI character animation; but since then companies have only gotten more and more lazy. I know it's extremely difficult, I've been doing 3D animation for years- but they really don't even TRY when it comes to the entire concept of lifelike movement. I'd just like to see a little progress in areas other than texturing, number-of-pixel detail, and digitized-camera-lens rendering. Because all that stuff is great, but once it actually goes into motion, the entire goal of realism is shattered.
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I was sooooo craving to see this teaser in clarity since that fuzzy cellphone footage taken from Comic Con '08. I'm especially happy the original TRON Creator Steve Lisberger is involved in the project. I totally trust the Director Joseph Kosinski after viewing his previous works. The world of TRON has just been upgraded to be more be versatile and realistic. Its just like the evolution of video games. We've went from PONG to now more sophisticated games like Gears of War so to speak. What's to hate about the TRON: Legacy designs ? The story is taking place 20+ years from the original. I'd say technology has improved since 1982. With Daft Punk onboard to score TRON: Legacy - HOLY SHIT ! If you're not a electronica-head you don't know what you're missing. I love Wendy Carlos, too. The Moog sound was revolutionary in 80s but now that the Moog has been established Daft Punk sounds have emerged. I'm so glad Disney is backing this. They've obviously have the finances to turn this flick into a IMAX 3D tour de force. I'm so looking forward to this. You have no idea!
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Jul 24, 2009 4:40:22 PM CDT
Daft Punk is doing the score (for those that did not know)
by future help
and if anyone goes to this Directors website...you will see that he has done lots of "futuristic" commercials. AND he knows how to do them WELL. I think NuTron is in good hands all around.
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in black and white.
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Jul 24, 2009 4:42:28 PM CDT
Ha! i just wrote a shorter version of yours /\ at the same time
by future help
cool.
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...original footage...like a transmission from space or something. The first few seconds before the bikes remind me of the training screens of METAL GEAR SOLID...I can practically hear the mercs..."...hugh!?...what was that?..."
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thanks Disney
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Shaky cam YouTube version kinda sucked.
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You can hear some of Daft Punk's music here...
http://tinyurl.com/mknsjl
...on the YouTube called LIGHT CYCLE REVEAL
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..it looks THAT good. Now this is something to get excited about. Fuck this Avatar nonsense.
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Can't wait!
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But I also agree with some here that watching the shaky-cam footage was great when hear the crowd's reaction. Tron: Legacy will kick your ass then buy you a drink after.
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daft punk is easily my favorite band. tron was one of my favorite movies growing up. (and still is.) i know there are a lot of us geeking out over this, but i feel like they made this movie just for me.. like i did something good and this is my reward.
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TRON OWNS ALL
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I hope the final product holds onto the somewhat serious tone that this pulls off.
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put online in HD. it doesn't make any sense. why limit the exposure when you're already sharing it with the public. I never understood that.
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And this is only a test! I am so fucking amped for Avatar but I have to say I'm even more excited about this now!
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I'm excited.
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I want to see this FAR more than Avatar.
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Me likee very much! If that's concept and not final, then kudos, indeed! I'll definitely see your asses on the game grid next year!
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my emule is gonna be working overtime with all those bluray rips
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Part of the appeal of the original Lightcycles was those immediate 90 degree turns they could make. Adding the fluid motion is cool, but those lightning fast 90 turns were a huge part of their original appeal
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I mean, come on!
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...Gonna be in their little Tron movie? Is the BOX in it?
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Nuff said
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Jul 24, 2009 5:15:20 PM CDT
(1) I've never seen TRON. (2) I hate most things.
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
Yet, that looks fucking amazing. Well done to Disney. You've just sold me on something I previously had NO excitement for.
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All black background for 2 hours?
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It's just a big expensive ad to sell the new Tron game. And by the look of things, I'll enjoy playing it more than watching the movie.
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I'll see go see it, and will like it either way. This is just one of those things. You understand, don't you?
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The summer of 1982 I spent locked away in the Capri Theater in West Covina being awestruck every single time I saw that movie.
There are movies that promise to take you another world. Like Star Wars (which I love, don't get me wrong). But, when they are on Tatooine, you KNOW they are just filming in some desert somewhere (Tunisia, I believe).
But Tron literally, LITERALLY, took you to someplace you had never been before ever. Ever. I cannot overestimate the impact that movie had on me.
Again, don't get me wrong, much of the film, frankly, hasn't aged well. Except, of course for the lightcycles. They still rock. -
I can't wait to see this shit when they do it for real! It's gonna be brilliant!
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... that was OFF-THE-HOOK!
Listen, I don't use slang often, but was GREAT. I actually have a movie I'm excited to see.
FUCK (OVER-HYPE) AVATAR! This is going to FUCK SOME EYEBALLS!
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I can't Hate on what I just saw.....
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...I can only hope she will have some role in the score creation process. At least, something more than merely "referencing" the earlier score. Seems a tremendously wasted opportunity.
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...that was kinda cool. Though the little detail I loved was seeing Flynn walk away from the window in the background before Clu digital ninja'd that beeyatch.
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was the dude enjoying a white russian.
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We were originally told the movie wouldn't be out until 2011, but this teaser ends with 2010. Thoughts?
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Looked like Sark or a Sark/Clu hybrid.
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look slightly different from their Users.
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I am moist with anticipation.
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Hypocrites! This also looks awesome! Gimme a 1080p download link!!!
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I think AVATAR will be a tougher sell then most will give it credit for. It's going to be very cool, but just won't have the edge to excite the market that TRON will devour. The TRON promo trailer gives me the same chills that the original MATRIX film gave me the first time I saw it. Also, DAFT PUNK doing the soundtrack is one of the best ideas in a long time. Who's going the soundtrack to AVATAR? Probably Celine Dion.
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...the universe doesn't give you this stuff for free. Better keep a close eye on the things you hold most dear for a while...your dog...your prize winning orchid...your first edition of the GORMENGHAST trilogy...whatever...
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When did they release this featurette and trailer 3? Damn... I need to keep up on stuff.
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Or an ADR updated delivery by Bridges. Compare to last years. Everything else seems the same except for this last line reading.
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1. I am a grown man, and I'm excited about TRON: LEGACY. A grown man, ferchrissakes! Sigh.
2. Any enthusiasm for this or any geek-hyped extravaganza is automatically tempered by memories of SNAKES ON A PLANE. I mean, that was going to be the biggest thing in the world and...it wasn't.
3. I have to echo the comments about Wendy Carlos' sublime music from the original, and how that has become such a part of the movie and its world. Really wonderful, distinctive stuff that elevated the material; if wishes were horses, I'd have her score any TRON project. Short of that, I hope they at least include some of her themes.
4. And if TRON: LEGACY craps out -- turns out to be a shameless, paper thin, attempt to cash in on the cultural cachet of the original -- well, I guess we can always pin our hopes on a KIDD VIDEO reboot. -
But, I finished it.
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No, fuck you!
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The contrast between the real world and the computer world was beautiful and there was a clear eye for an evolution in graphics while maintaining the iconic aspects of the original. Avatar needs to get something out there because I'm excited about Tron and have NO, ZERO, FUCK ALL interest in Avatar. Everything I've seen so far has been either lifted out of Imagine FX or a really dull looking robot type thing. Oh and I agree, the youtube footage did have that wonderful charm of the growing cheer.
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that footage is absolutely stunning.
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Hope it turns out good.
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I also have fuck all interest in Avatar, and the idiots with the 'fuck eyeballs' comment are pushing that lack of interest into actual hatred before the thing even comes out. But fuck me, that quicktime peek of utter joy has me hooked. Tron: Legacy is going to be a real event.
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plese excuse any typos.
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The whole thing or are they just collaborating? I'd imagine there'd also be some other composer involved... In any case, that's fucking awesome!!!
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Wonder if there is going to be a coin op arcade game to play again like back in the good ol days?
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I saw Tron for the first time years ago. A friend was moving to Amsterdam (the lucky bastard) and a bunch of us got together for one last big Acid trip. One friend had a copy of Tron on VHS tape and we rented a VCR from Krogers to watch the movie. Unfortunately, the movie was recorded at 4-hour speed and the VCR only played back 2-hour and 6-hour speed. It played the Tron tape at twice-normal speed with audio, and it was a really crazy experience on a couple of hits of acid.
I've always loved Tron!
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...is alive and well at www.wendycarlos.com and her music will be sorely missed on Tron Legacy...
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I believe Daft Punk cut 24 tracks for the film (or was it 26?). I.e. they're scoring the picture.
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Different music is appropriate.
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Jul 24, 2009 7:01:00 PM CDT
I didn't exactly LOVE the original but . . .
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
that kinda gave a chill down my spine. Nice, I hope the story is amazing.
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But what they're trying to sell us is a *continuation* of a story, and I think for a lot of people, the music was such a meaningful part of the original, its absence would feel uncomfortable. Like if they recast Flynn.
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I messed myself....
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Jul 24, 2009 7:14:25 PM CDT
If TRON was a STAR WARS also ran, then this--
by the reluctant austinite
looks like a NEW STAR WARS killer! TRON LEGACY is the new Master on the block! I can't believe how amazing this looks, and I love that they got the amazing Jeff Bridges back. I can't wait to live in that world for 2 hours, hearing those digital sounds and music. Long live TRON LEGACY!
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The crevice the Blue Stach dude drove through is the same crevice Flynn and Tron drove through to escape the grid in the first movie.
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(((((((((((((((((((((((((((fucking incredible))))))))))))))))))))))))
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...one dimensional afternoon cartoon show for 12 year olds.
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I remember having dreams of having Lightcycle battles on the game grid. Those were kick ass dreams. I remember when it came out, I get didn't get to see it in theaters. But for some reason they showed it at my school on a projector. I was mezmerized by all the colors and the stuff going on, it was amazing!! Now some 25 odd years later they're finally making the sequel which looks even more awesome!!! This i will definitely see in IMAX.
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It is a lot of things, but one dimensional it ain't. The greatest knock against it was that it was probably too ambitious for mainstream moviegoers. I remember when TRON came out, nobody understood it at all. Then again, personal computers were these rare and mysterious things...
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Fucked my eyeballs!!!
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I'll keep an eye on those things that are dear to me, but after this movie is released all bets are off.
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Yet another douchebag asshole who pretends he knows everything about movies he doesn't actually know shit about.
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Am I the only one to notice several similarities to the podrace sequence in EP1? The cycle winding through a narrow canyon... The enemy swooping down from above to outflank his opponent... Maybe I am just being overly-imaginative
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I am so there!!
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this looks sweet! I remember seeing the original Tron when I was a kid in the theater, great memories. We had an arcade next to the theater and at the time it was booming. After a few years went by it was closed down, the herb smoking was frowned upon by the city council. Shame really. Everyone hung out there. Oh and the Tron video game was fun as hell, I remember it eating up a lot of my quarters =)
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at the risk of sounding like a broken record...
WTF is up with all these crappy links that don't work lately??
sure the embedded flash works (of course) but the "download" links below it do NOTHING
I know, it's got nothing to do with the good people on this site but REALLY, a little more care from those who actually post this shit in the first place!!
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. . . finally buy a bluray player.
That looked so incredible, I'm not sure a DVD would do it justice.
However, and yes I realize that this is merely early test footage . . .
Nitpick #1: I still really dislike the CGI faces. I would MUCH prefer that they shoot human footage on real filmstock, then composite the human faces onto CGI bodies. That would have been the best way to honour the techniques of the first movie while also updating it for today's technology.
Plus, it would have given the actors more to do. I don't like the prospect of not actually seeing the uber-cool Jeff Bridges whenever we're inside the computer. A voice-over simply isn't good enough.
Not to mention that I don't think such a technique has ever been done before, which would really make it a "TRON" movie.
Nitpick #2: I'm torn on the idea of fluid motion for the lightcycles.One part of my brain agrees that the 90 degree turns of the original lightcycles is part of what makes them look so damned cool.But another part of my brain says, "dude! Did you not WATCH that footage and see how fuckin' COOL it was?!?!"And a third part of my brain tells me that it makes total sense that Encom's computer system would have been upgraded enough by now that 90 degree turns would have been a really stupid idea.
At the end of the day, I think they'll have to make the environment for the lightcycle battle really intricate in order for it to make more sense. In that teaser, the game grid seems really wide open, which would make it pretty hard to catch another player in a one-on-one battle, assuming that each lightcycle still goes the same speed, like in the original. Without an enclosed game grid forcing each player to turn lest they slam into the wall, the game doesn't really make much sense. (Royston takes a moment to remind himself that this was just test footage.)
Final thought: I am SO DAMNED CURIOUS to see if that crazy, 2001-esque room where Flynn's doing his Lebowski-Zen-thing is in the movie, AND really curious is Flynn in that clip is watching the lightcycle duel on a monitor or not. The clip doesn't confirm that little plot point.
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I was way agianst this movie being made, but that was pretty cool-
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Jul 24, 2009 8:57:15 PM CDT
Viewer 3: Is realistic human motion in CGI even possible?
by royston lodge
Since you work in 3D animation and I most certainly do not, I'm curious what it is from your experience that tells you the Uncanny Valley can be bridged when it comes to cgi human characters. I don't personally think it'll EVER be possible to convincingly create a human cgi character that stands up to scrutiny, except maybe by using tricks likes extreme distances or low resolution/blur effects. But I'm a layman, so I'm really curious what the professionals think.
But in this clip specifically, it isn't a CGI representation of a living human character. It's a CGI representation of a human-shaped game character. So there's no reason why they have to have perfect human motion.
Running with that idea, if they aren't going to shoot any of the game world scenes on film like in the original, a really cool alternative would be to design the game world like a real computer game, and shoot those scenes as machinima.
That would be a really innovative technique which would also really make it a "TRON" film.
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couldn't deal with watching this in a crappy little embed with no fullscreen - looks much better on the TV...
so I'm still getting distinctly EVIL vibes from Old Flynn, even moreso with the decent quality video - maybe it's the beard -
When I try to save those clips by right-clicking on the link, all I get is about 4k of data. Is it just me, or are the links designed so that they can only be viewed as embeds?
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I'm 23, and I just saw Tron today, seeing as how it's been getting so much press lately. And it was pretty enjoyable--reminds me a lot of Gibson's Neuromancer, in a way. I can see why so many people are fixated on it; it must have been damned amazing back in the 80's.
And then I saw the Tron 2 trailer. . .and oh my God. Holy crap. I mean, sure, the CGI looks a little stiff when the people are moving. . .but dear God. They took the simplistic 80's electronic aesthetic and made it sleek and beautiful. Disney, you have officially won me over. Thank you. -
...so did I. I had to "Open Link In New Window" to get the 720 & 1080 playbacks to load.
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I'm watching it on my Sharp Aquos 37" 1080p HDTV in 1920x800. http://tinyurl.com/ndf8jn
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I guess it would work... If I had quicktime installed. :( There must be a way to download it! Does anybody have a link?
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Another thing that made the lightcycles so damned deadly in the original was that they couldn't STOP. Once the game was on there was no turning back.
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It's up on Dave's Trailer page for anybody that's having problems! Whoooo!
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Did you ever consider that they maybe living in a nonsensical kind of world?
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. . . right-clicking and selecting "Open with Quicktime Player", but I can't save them on my desktop. I also can't get them to play using VNC.
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Or maybe I'm the one living in a nonsensical world, and the TRON game world makes total sense!
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. . . are slightly different than the ones at the official site, and yes they allow me to save the clips locally.
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Does Tron really have a large fanbase? The original was cool in its own way, but definitely a cult film, and really the kind of sci-fi that only appeals to hard-core male geeks and no other demographics, not a mass audience. It was a very stodgy, unemotional, humourless, and sometimes boring movie. Basically a gimmick movie, like The Last Starfighter, or Final Fantasy. Avatar will have a much grear audience, because it is an epic, LOTR in space type tale with huge battles, and a strong love story element at its core, as well as fantasy elements. Tron Legacy I see as being fun, but one only for the geeks. Avatar will be fucking supermodels and actresses (in the eyes!!); Tron will be picking up only the cute nerdy girl at the bar.
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Anything with neon lights on black triggers my nostalgia something fierce, thanks to TRON. I didn't even see the whole movie until a few years ago, but the imagery got wedged in there somehow, along with the sound of those lightcycles. Dear god, the SOUND - I'll be lining up just to hear them again.
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Looks great.
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He will if there's any justice in the world...
And after this thing being made available after a whole YEAR (remember Royston this is the same stuff as a year ago) of teasing, I sure don't want to see Jay's white outfit at the moment. Ewwww. -
Seeing as all you can think of is other movies/already established stuff, I'd say that you're being the very OPPOSITE of imaginative!
But while you're at it, the flip is a bird's eye view of the classic Mad Max cycle stunt.
And it's so typical of unimaginative TBers that they're dissing the daftpunk thing for Wendy Carlos. You can't please TBers. They scream for you to do the same thing again that they liked the first time/cast the same people/crew/lookalikes/adapt between vastly different media verbatim. But if you DO, they scream "uncreative"! You just can't win with fanboys... -
Open the High definition file on a new tab.
Copy URL
Open Quicktime Application. Under the "File" menu click on "open url"
Paste URL, then click "OK"
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I still think this film's a great idea, and am still quite hyped for it.But the lightcycle footage left me a bit bored. There's no sense of danger or suspense when everything in the shots, people included, is CG. It feels distant and safe, and all the changes of 'camera' angle don't change that.It's pleasant enough, but doesn't really have its own character just yet. TRON pushed the boundaries of what was possible at the time, and that created its character. This, on the other hand, is safely enough behind the cutting edge that it doesn't have enough personality.But when Jeff Bridges came on screen, suddenly it got a lot more interesting.Like I said, I'm still all for this film and will go see it. But if it's not as distinctive in our time as TRON was in '82, it'll be a missed opportunity.
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damn that shit looks better then Avatar!...now that's what I call photo realistic!...my eyeballs have just been fucked!
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Tron is *supposed* to look like it is CG because it takes place in ComputerLand. Put the first one on your Netflix right now and watch it Tuesday night. There is CG all over the fucking place.
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Sorry, but it does.
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That was some fucking coolness right there boys. Bleak, cold, computer landscapes, and the FUCKING DUDE HIMSELF! Tron is going to FIST FUCK JAMES "Avatar will be revolutionary" CAMERON.
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Nerd Culture. Gotta love it. Out with the old, in with teh new, right? Let's gobble everything up, and then forget about it once something cooler comes alo....oh!! A penny.
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The design looks cool but I miss the right angles and since when can they touch each other's light-trails without being destroyed or stop for that matter, they even changed the cool sound they used to make. Don't get me wrong I had a total geekgasm with Jeff Bridges and TRON back (I bet he never thought he'd make another TRON movie) but I kinda liked elements of the old one better. Btw, will Bruce Boxleitner be making a cameo?
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...were a limitation of shitty graphic rendering engines long ago! Fear that 2bit gaming technology!
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I just scanned the entire TB and I was the only one who mentioned BRUCE BOXLEITNER, you know the original fuckin' TRON guy, where's the geek love for Bruce? And does anybody know what that liquid they all drank in the original that energized them was supposed to have been? Electricity?
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then you are an idiot.
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You're an even bigger idiot.
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Boxleitner has a bigger role than a cameo. Pretty much accurate story details here:
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Heh.
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Err, not when it came to the people it didn't. The same way as most people still don't realise that there was a lot of what they thought was cg that was actually done by hand using traditional techniques, they also don't realise that the look of the human stuff was done with essentially hand-coloured black & white photocopies. The jittery look had nothing to do with any sort of effect/filter, and everything to do with it being a stack of still photos that were coloured and sound-synched later. Of course it was great because the stylisation fit the context making it all work, but my God that was as old-school as you can get! I'm not saying this to be contrary, just saying it because there are TBers talking crap without actually knowing WHAT they're talking about.
And Kev, by that token I guess the original lightcycle chase left you bored out of your skull. "It looks like a videogame!", ha ha. ;) Note the wink.
As for the cutting edge, even the original was behind what Triple I had done to show Lucas when pitching for Empire. And where this new one is concerned, that footage is older than when they showed it at LAST year's SDCC. Remember?!
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Boxleitner was a big part of the awesomeness that was TRON, glad he's back, too.
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This was a concept video so it was probably hastily done... Also it is possible to get good human movement in CG characters. So long as they are normal human characters proper mo-cap with some hand animation to smoothen out what isn't right looks great, video games nail this down very well! Most of the trouble often comes from trying to do things that can't be mo-capped or that we're not all used to see anyway, such as when a person is flying through the air and that kind of stuff, they might simulate it using some kind of physics engine and ragdolls with some hand animation but it's hard to pull off those sorts of things. Even if they're simulated correctly and realistic people wil lstill have problems seeing it as real as we don't often see people flying through the air from accidents and other things. Even if you did it would appear surreal, accidents can be pretty crazy things and you'll always stop and wonder if you really did witness such a thing. Anyway that said, the animation in this concept video is pretty off and was probaly done hastily and roughly. Hopefully they'll put more effort into the actual film.As for saving this kind of quicktime file without quicktime Pro, if you've got the regular free quicktime installed, right click and save the small file from the site to your desktop or wherever. Open the file in quicktime and wait until it fully loads. Then go to View and check the loop option. Hit the 'x' to close it and an option pops up to ask if you want to save the changes. Click to save and choose to flatten the entire movie from the options (Should be default) and voila! It's saved, then you can open it up again and uncheck the loop option and save it again.
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You knew that guy didn't stand a chance. Heh.
Is that getting the Bluray treatment sometime soon? I'd love to see that remastered in HD.
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I just read the old talkback, it mentions that Boxleitner's back but as a human. Nothing I have read has made any mention of the actual TRON program himself (for which the movie is named) coming back, tho a TB'er in that other TB made the guess that TRON would come in the third act Aslan-esque. Any news on that?
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"Ahhh noooo!" Heh.
"Let him hope for a while then blow him away" My cousins and I use that line when ever we play any sort of sport or game. Best line ever when you're dominating. -
The lightbikes in the bootleg have the original sound effects, but were changed in this release.
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things that people cheer at.
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I was a little >.> when I saw the fluid movement in the trailer, but in the original Tron, when the light cycles aren't on the game grid, they are capable of fluid movement. It's only when they're on the game grid that they make the ultrasharp 90 degree turns.
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TRON (original film) Blu-Ray is in the works; likely closer to the release of LEGACY.
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I'm not aware of TRON being in LEGACY as a character; his human alter-ego Alan Bradley is (Boxleitner). Seems odd that TRON wouldn't be in TRON; wouldn't be at all surprised if they slip him in somehow.
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A TRON movie with no TRON? Borderling false advertising there, no? It's not as bad a departure as say, HALLOWEEN 3: SEASON OF THE WITCH and I guess they do cover themselves with the whole "LEGACY" tag, but if I go see a TRON movie, maybe it's just me but I'd like to see a new awesome TRON program kicking ass at some point.
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I've watched this trailer about 20 times already.
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What RamboJesus said. So all's in context.
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I hope his brother Troff is.
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taking up the mantle or some such thing, given that he had one ofcourse. The gap between the two movies would give him time to have a kid who grows up in an ever evolving gaming and computer world of the late 80's going into the 90's to now (giving Flynn a run for his money). What ever the case, really looking forward to this.
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Looks a little like the Starchild from 2001 the way he's held up in a room by himself and obviously fed. I would think that Legacy refers to Flynn/CLU himself since he's essentially become the legacy program within the mainframe.
I've been waiting for this ever since I saw this on VHS in the late 80's, next summer can't come soon enough -
You can see Flynn's image flicker ever so slightly like he did in the first one when he was on the game grid
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It looks like the players are fully formed into the bike itself, notice how you can't see their legs. This is some awesome shit, and will be the first Disney movie I see in theaters since, uh, I have no idea.
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...this totally pwned Teh Lord of the Rings,Teh Night of teh Living Dead, Teh Dark Knight, Ratboy, Transformers, G.I. Joe, Smurfs, He-Man, She-ra AND E MOTHERFUCKING T!! Oh snaps!!!
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does anyone else think their suits need a little less "X-MEN" look to em' and more NEON, a little more brighter like the old movie..the entire fuckin movie just glowed it seemed like. Also...anyone else here prefer the TR2N logo? I think in the shaky cam version when the "2" started to sketch itself out it just looked FUCKIN AWESOME! The T in this logo seems off, the way it goes into the R, I don't like it at all and why is the word Legacy not in the "Tron font"?
Small gripes for what will be an incredible film.
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Come on, bring back Cindy Morgan!
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Definitely a must-see in 2010!
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and the motion isn't in right angles: post MCP/Sark ENCOM digital world is no longer authoritarian, and the games wouldn't be deadly (de-rezzed-ly?)
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I don't know about the story, script or the rest, but the visuals look good. Does the laser play a part?
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damn that's a ways away. As long as they do it right. Well Disney usually goes all out with there Bluray releases. Can't wait for a new soundscape transfer.
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code that the programs live in. In the original he had a face, but he was initially a program that can keep everything in check on an independent basis. He's sorta a Nortan virus protector/search function I guess.
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Just asking; and also I thought this movie was coming out in 2011?
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didnt know he was still alive,because i havent seen him in any work for a long time now.
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That was awesome.
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in the game grid.outside of it,the lightcycles are moving normally,this has been shown clearly in the first movie.
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After all the crap-o-rama greasy nuts-and-bolts messy hairball clutter of Transformers and Terminator, this is an oasis for the eyes. At last, computer graphics with an emphasis on design instead of grunge.
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thus the movie is terrible.
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.....the original film? Or is it new music or is it music from some other film borrowed just for this trailer? Does anyone know the answer?
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Where is the orignal Blu-Ray?
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The HD links don't do anything.
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even the fucking title is perfect. I'm not a Tron fanboy (is there such a thing?), but I clicked on that expecting a CGI shitfest and instead, what i got, was a CGI artfest! Clean lines, THE EXACT SAME LOOK ALTERED JUST ENOUGH TO MAKE IT SLIGHTLY NEW, Jeff Bridges (the real version) looking like he actually believed he was in that universe and not phoning it in for a social security check from Disney... fucking amazing. Oh, and you CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON! I didn't realize it, but it feels like this design work was ahead of it's time and only just now is it starting to catch up... I guess when you've had five or six years of unrecognizable slop on the screen, made even worse by choppy, A.D.D. addled editing, you begin to have a taste for the finer foods. Good design! Whoda thunk?! Oh, and one last thing - the music had a little bit of that 80's retro, Epcot feel too! Could it be that when you make something new out of something old, you should ACTUALLY keep some of what made it successful in the first place? Hmmm.... food for thought.
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To a degree, Toilet_Terror, though if Disney were smart(er) they would build on what's already there, like the visuals do.
This is why you need Wendy Carlos (as far as I am aware she is still alive). Besides, being she is a classically trained musician I believe that she could take what she did before and build upon it.
Tbs, if a sample of Daft Punk's work is from the Lightcycle Reveal Clip from youtube, it isn't terrible, though it is a bit clunky and definitely not up to, for example, 'Ring Game and Escape' or 'Tron And The MCP' from the original soundtrack.
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is because it feels like it takes place in the World of Tron. The neon for one, but also the vast and expansive open area around them, coupled with grids here and there. If it hadn't reminded me of Tron at all. I would have hated it.
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Regardless of whether or not this is in the movie, it's got me so psyched for Tron: Legacy that this is my most anticipated film of 2010 so far along with Iron Man 2.
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That chubby accountant dude was Peter Jurasik, who later starred with Bruce Boxleitner in Babylon 5 as Londo Molari.
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But I reckon it's all CGI
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I doubt it is. This was released as a "concept" piece last year at Comic Con, and it's this video that sold the studio on green lighting the sequel. I think it's likely that we can expect a few changes in costuming - maybe this bike outfit is what they "change" into when they're traveling by cycle? Who knows...but since it was more or less proof of concept / sales pitch material, I don't think it's part of the movie. It was designed to be self-contained and show that Jeff Bridges was on board.
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The look is just right, it does'nt veer too much from the original, and it just looks amazing. Definately one I'll be waiting for!!
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That's just WOW!
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look forward to this
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It really makes me excited... but then I was excited by the Episode One trailer too... ;-P Here's hoping that the delivered goods are as promising. I never was a TRON nut but I do remember it capturing the imagination for a time.
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big ups to you, rbottoms - as wrong as that sounds...
it's FLYNN'S kid in this movie, right - not... what was Tron's user called again?
TROFF - classic!
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Nothing in what you said proves your point that TRON wasn't pushing boundaries. All you're saying is that it wasn't all high-tech. Which is exactly *my* point. At the time, they weren't *able* to do things that are now commonplace with CG, so they had to be resourceful to go outside what anyone else was doing. The result: TRON wasn't like anything else in its day, due to the sum total of the "high tech" (computer-rendered images) and low-tech (people effects).Another mis-fired point you make (wink noted) is about the original cycle chase looking like a video game. Not sure what arcades you frequented, but no video game on earth at the time looked like that scene--or was capable of looking like it.But now, every video game in the store looks like this test footage, right down to the so-fake-looking body movements. Doesn't matter how high-tech it is--kids see this level of quality every day in their games, which makes this less cutting-edge than the original.So if it requires the new makers to do something comparable to making photocopies again, then so be it--I'd love for this new TRON to again leave us all thinking, "I haven't seen anything like that before--how did they do that?"This test footage is very appealing, but can't make that claim. It's just CG like everyone else is doing. Which could still be a fitting *tribute* to the original, but far less of a significant artistic statement relative to its own time. I expect I'll enjoy it either way, but I want to respect it as much as I did the original, too.
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IMHO, video games still do not look like this. Sci-fi movies don't either. What makes this STILL different and even more refreshing now isn't the technology, it's the DESIGN. Most genre films these days are badly designed from the characters, to the sets, to the aural environment, to the editing. You would be right about it not being a significant artistic statement in its time if this came out in the 1990's somewhere between T2 and The Matrix. But I'd argue that we've seen very few peaks and have been in a very long, deep valley when it comes to CGI use in film. Technological advancement and eye-popping realism does not equate to being artistic with the tools that you have. It's been so overused and is such a crutch that no thought is given to good design anymore since hey! You can do anything! Ridley Scott spent as much time on the extremely intricate and detailed environments in Alien and Blade Runner as he did on any other aspect of those films and that's why they're STILL significant artistic statements that are better than nearly all comers since. For that same reason, the fact that this has clean lines and a beauty to the use of the FX makes it stand out, to me anyway, even more than it did back in the 80's, when the FX ball that started with Star Wars was just gathering momentum. I'd argue that when you have as much headache-inducing noise (Transformers? T:S?) as you do now, the hum of those light cycles and a sea of blackness with the slightest specs of color and light to suggest depth feels like a breath of fresh air.
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Fuck all you haters. It raped my eyeballs!!!
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Jul 25, 2009 11:41:55 PM CDT
Makes me think of Last Star Fighter DVD special features
by darthsaul666
At the time of Tron 1 Disney had the biggest CGI suite around... The makers of TLS got to use it. Then ILM made the best one around.... If anyone is well versed in this history, let me know where I'm right/wrong... All you nit-picking Macguffin haters don't waste my fucking time....
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The only reason to go to Comic Con is to get information on futurama!
What happened at their panel?????? -
I didn't read the article but was lead to believe they can't afford the voice talent!?!?!? Now that is a soap opera!!!!
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man i rank this boring ass teaser right up there with speed racer.....this is the most generic looking 100% lame ass action i've seen in a long time....they might as well released the original film...
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the dvd is cool but it now looks like crap on my giant LCD screen
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This just made it even cooler.
Really i thought it was going to be another trash remake as with everything these days but you can tell they took the time to think about what they wanted and did it.
Hyper realistic characters on a striped down jet black surface really makes them pop off the screen in the Quicktime trailer so i am in no doubt the 3D will have you pulling shards of glass from your eyes :D
Score was pretty light.. hope to hear more of that later on but the sound FX was spot on in my opinion.
Take the part where voiced in the helmet to outside as he ducks the rock..... NICE !
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CG looks like a cartoon. For 2009 this is garbage.
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I will not see this under any circumstances. Sorry Disney...
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The light cycles have a turning circle. There was something cooler about the more harsh right angle turns.
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end of line....
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Ok, imagine this scenario:
I just re-watched the clip for, like, the umpteenth time.
The CGI-Bridges is supposedly CLU, Flynn's hacker program, right? CLU was basically nothing more than a search agent of some kind, rummaging through the mainframe trying to locate data that Flynn could use. He wasn't, as some people have written, a security program. TRON (Boxleitner) was the security program. The way Bradley describes how TRON works, he's like a cross between a firewall and an anti-virus.
We don't know who the other character in the clip is. Judging by his dialogue, he seems to be a human player.
The other BIG thing we don't know is, when a human "plays the game" are they just playing on a desktop (or using some sort of Lawnmower Man-style virtual reality rig), OR has Encom actually commercialized the "digitization" technology from the first movie and people VOLUNTARILY allow themselves to be turned into computer programs, with all the inherent dangers (getting friggin' deleted from a power failure, or corrupted by some flaw on the hard drive, or stolen by some hacker in Russia, etc).
Either scenario has its own set of cool existential questions and consequences for the plot of the movie.
If the player is using a desktop, then when CLU pulls out his "Deadly Disc" the implication is that CLU has the ability to kill humans. That's pretty creepy, but the writers would have to work pretty hard to make it convincing.
But if the player voluntarily allow themselves to be digitized, and indeed pay for the priviledge, that's a whole other LEVEL of creepy. One can assume that Encom has all sorts of corporate bullshit about "safeguards" and whatnot (redundant power sources, redundant CPUs, bullet-proof security software, "lethality safeguards", etc).
The story becomes about corporate malfeasance when CLU starts deleting paying customers.
So, what does any of this have to do with the title of the movie.
If its been 25 years since since Flynn was first digitized and had his little adventure in Encom's mainframe. The company's computer systems will be MUCH more advanced by now.(Indeed the viral websites imply that Encom's technology stretches over the Internet. So a digitized human isn't confined to Encom's mainframe.)
It's pretty unlikely that TRON is still used for security. How many of you have 25-year-old software keeping your computer's safe?
And CLU was supposedly deleted in the first movie! He was derezzed by the MCP!
So, in this scenario, CLU is a long-forgotten hacker program that's somehow been reborn (some Russian hacker found an old 5.25" floppy backup, maybe?). He's loose inside the system, deleting files and killing humans willy-nilly. because today's anti-virus software doesn't recognize him.
So what does the company do to fight a 25-year-old hacker program? They go to the backups and pull out a little "legacy code" of their own, of course!
Our good friend, TRON.
Now, who knows if that's actually the plot of the damned movie, but doesn't it sound like it would make a damned good Tron story? -
Jul 28, 2009 8:10:51 PM CDT
The "legacy code" idea fits the decision to use Daft Punk as wel
by royston lodge
If the story if about corrupted "legacy code" running amok, and clean "legacy code" being used to solve the problem, then hiring Daft Punk to do the music also makes sense.
Give Daft Punk access to the original master tapes of the soundtrack (the "legacy code"), and give them free reign to sample whatever they want, remix the hell out of it, and update it (or "upgrade", in the parlance of our times) with a whacked-out combination of new computer technology and vintage ("legacy") analog synthesizers.
I just have one request to the producers - please don't give the two guys in Daft Punk a cameo in the movie as a couple of music programs. I still haven't recovered from Madonna's cameo in Die Another Day... -
http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/tronlegacy/
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The bikes only turned 90 degrees on the actual game grid... when they were driving around outside of the game, they drive just like regular motorcycles.
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Watch the 720p or 1080i versions... those are people in suits for the most part. There is some stylisting stuff going on with time remapping, and of course the bike getting hit/guy flying is CGI augmented at minimum, but you are viewing this WAY too harshly. Go back and watch Matrix 2 ... Neo in his panultimate fighting the night of a million zillion Agent Smiths is laughably bad CGI. This trailer is far superior to that scene in terms of CGI "reality"
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Jul 30, 2009 12:03:28 AM CDT
has no one played the Tron 2.0 video game from a few years back?
by murdermostfowl
The "Tron Legacy" is well defined there. I think they're going to borrow from that storyline ( at least the background which was very solid and deep ) for this movie.
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The "secret" site MOV files are higher quality than the ones hosted on Apple's site. Weird.
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