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Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND Trailer Finds Its Way To The Internet...
Merrick here...
IGN has posted a trailer for Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND, which has been nabbed and embedded by Trailer Addict (HERE).
There's also a YouTube of the same, viewable below:
Someone needs to kill that damn floating cat head. Someone just...kill that thing...with extreme, unrelenting prejudice. I don't like that floating cat head very much. Not much at all.
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Burton & Depp won't let us down!
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Depp looks great
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and Dark Shadows. And pretty much anything Burton. Hopefully he's got the suck out of his system with Planet of the Apes and Big Fish behind him. Sweeny Todd was deliciously macabre (even though it was a fuckin' musical). If Burton can keep bringing his brand of Horror infused with Humor, well then I'm there.
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Is this the Alice and Mad Hatter show?
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While I'm hoping this fall and winter bring us some good flicks, well, let's just say the good has been widely outnumbered by the bad this year. This looks really, really promising, especially considering it's just a teaser trailer.
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I never read through the looking glass but i doubt the mad hatter is as prevalent as he is in this trailer.
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Shit movie? Check.
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seem so neutered and watered down these days. I guess thats what happens when you work for Disney. Whatever happened to the talent that made Beetlejuice?
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I was hoping he'd be making something darker. This was kinda blah in my eyes. Wasn't a fan of his Wonka either.
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Looks fucking tits. This just might be his best one since Sleepy Hallow
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I'm not surprised, I'm usually left unimpressed by the marketing for just about every Tim Burton movie. His style is always interesting, but it never comes off well in trailer form for me. I'm not a major fan of his to begin with, but usually when I do get around to seeing his movies they are quite better than I had expected. I will still likely see this, and hopefully I will be impressed, but right now I could honestly care less...
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The cheshire cat at least seems in the spirit of the original. The mad hatter wasn't wholly elemental to the original, he was just one character amongst many. Why do I get the feeling they should rename this "Johnny Depp's The Mad Hatter Starring Johnny Depp."
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Theoretically, there has to be a bottom somewhere, which G.I. Joe will probably manage to thud against. Aside from Star Trek and Harry Potter, I've felt like a fool every time I walked out of the theater this summer.
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And I said that Alan Rickman should be the catapiller...and he is! They fucked up though and should have gotten David Walliams for the cheshire cart.
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Does Tim Burton ever get as bored with himself as we do of him?
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Yet we have a trailer already. I'll be sick of the sight of these images by the time March rolls around. Jim Cameron is a wise man keeping Avatar close to his chest til relatively near the release date.
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unfortunately. how many versions of this story do we need?
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Alice looks hot though
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July 22, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST
Looks like they re-used the tree from SLEEPY HOLLOW
by ZombieHeathLedger
Looks really great. Bit CGI-riffic but def enjoyable.
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July 22, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST
BURTON, DEPP, CARTER, CRISPEN FUCKING GLOVER!!!FTW!!!
by CarlThorMark1978
So far, this has the most perfect casting of any Burton movie. I don't know why it's taken him so long to work with Glover.
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So he just copied the Disney movie and put real actors (sort of) in it. I had HIGH HOPES now I got low hopes. Charlie and the C&C Music Factory sucked fuck.
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I hope it's a work in progress.
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I haven't seen one 3D movie yet and have not heard one person who did who was overwhelmed by it.
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The exploding windmill at the end of Sleepy Hollow. Before that you couldn't really point to anything he made and call it hack.
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He used to work for them, of course, and their post-professional relationship has been kind of shaky. He's made two interpretations of classics Disney has the intellectual monopoly on as far as public popularity goes, the first one was a forgettable blip (Hollow), and so far, I doubt this one will upstage Disney's original either. At this point, I'm not even sure it will upstage the non-Disney TV miniseries.
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Sleepy Hollow was awesome any time the horseman was in a scene. Too bad there was so much of that bullshit with Christina Ricci (nice tits).
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The visual style of this trailer is fantastic. Go get yer Photoshop and show me something better, pussies.
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Burton isnt really doing anything that he couldnt do in his sleep. Things that Tim Burton needs to do: 1: Make a proper horror movie not for kids. 2: Watch some Ken Loach movies and do a gritty movie about gay crack addicted male prostitues who die from Aids. 3: Help write some scripts for the Star Wars Tv turd from Lucas.
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Tom Petty Alice = Hot too. Petty also a better mad Hatter.
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http://tinyurl.com/4xr5co
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he always has strong visuals. Unfortunately, they're all almost identical. The Mad Hatter looks like Willy Wonka after a hard days night. Or Beetlejuice with a hat. Or the penguin with red hair. And so on...<br><br>Unfortunately, interesting visuals do not a good movie make. And please, Hollywood, yes let's please make one more movie marketed to kids* that is dark in tone. We really, really need that.<br><br><br><br>*Yes, Virginia, I know the original story is written for all age groups with a lot of political overtones.
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when you hear this type of music playing in a movie theatre preview around other people knowing other people will hear the same thing you do? I dunno... But I do
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Stop casting Helena Bottom Burton in all of his movies. Ugh imagine them bumping nasties? And give John Deep original roles.
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... Another boring Burton film. Yawn! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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July 22, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST
Anyone else think they are going to me a Little Britain movie?
by Series7
You know like Kevin and Perry Go Large?
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That motherfucking ho needs more work.
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Contributing nothing useful to the talkback? Check. Anyways this film looks pretty cool. Lets hope it's less Willy Wonka. More anything else.
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Does anyone else think there is WAY too much CGI? I mean Tweedledee and tweedledum, the queen...it reminded me of speed racer.
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Johnny Depp needs to make good movies again. Tim Burton too. They keep re-making the same movie.
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There's months and months to touch up the CGI. Don't say 'oh fake CGI there's too much CGI!!' we knew it was going to be a mostly CG movie ages ago. Give it a fucking rest you cunts.
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Is that why Burton changed around the story, to accomodate Depp in every single frame. Oh well. Looks ok for Burton. Relax Harry, the Chesire Cat is played by Stephen Fry, and if you remember the book, the floating head is sort of his thing
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The Mad Hatter looks like he belongs on the sex offenders list. And that cat.... that horrible, horrible cat.
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channeling Raul Duke a.k.a. Hunter S. Thompson.
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but I don't remember it flying around like that.
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from here to there, not flying bodiless.
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One of the few remaining Burton Fans. Poor sap.
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jesus christ
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but he cannot, his attempts to 'revisit' old children's classics are half hearted and empty feeling. His last good film was Ed Wood, ever since he's been on a downward spiral of auto-pilot filmmaking
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Have tottally ignored the real reimagining of Alice in Wonderland that has been done in the whole Zenoscope series...OHHHH thats right Tim Burton doesn't read comics. <P> http://www.zenescope.com/
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He's wonderfully, funderfully mad! Just look up the SNL skit and you'll see what I mean.<P>"Hey, I'm so mad, I wash my hands 100 times a day because they smell like my mother!"
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I agree with you totally. I think Depp will do fine as the Mad Hatter, but the story has so much more than the Mad Hatter in it.
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box office anymore without the words Pirates attached to it.
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I think i recall Alice from the book somewhat differently.
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Is that its going to make a shit ton of money through Hot Topic. And dumb people that think its cool and original. You know the people that think Tim Burton's first movie was Planet of the Apes.
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they should have released the movie later in the year. It wasn't a summer picture - would have done much better in the autumn/winter.
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Wrong. Star Trek was also a complete retarded dumb stupid piece of shit. Only Harry Potter was the good blockbuster this year, and only that one and nothing else.
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It came out in Spring. And HP sucks ass.
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First Hit 2010 and Must See, sure!!! It´s Tim Burton with Johnny Depp.
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It was shit anyway, and shit doesn't get any shittier because of seasons.
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He just adapts things.
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It was shit anyway, and shit doesn't get any less shittier because of seasons.
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The technical first release of the summer was Wolverine. Its always the first weekend of May, or last couple of days of April depending on Saturday lands.
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That blame should go to the studio. If they let Tim do what he wanted it would of been MUCH MUCH better.
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I used to wait each of his movies with great anticipation. now, i even forget he exists, and i'm only reminded when any of his new movies are released. And then i don't bother to watch them. I see him as aone trick poney who has wasted all his tricks now and is coasting on past glories. Screw him.
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The only person who talks is this guy who was in charge of making the actors movements look like apes. How the fuck do you end up earning a living doing that? He was sooo fucking stoked about the worked he did though. It was just funny that he was the only person talking during any of the making of's. I don't think Burton was even in any of them.
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Burton's Planet Of The Apes is exactly what he wanted it to be, and he doesn't ever get tired of saying it so in the audio comentary for the DVD. I'm sorry, but in this regard, Burton as a lot to be blamed about for the exacrable latest Planet Of The Apes movie, and not just the studio.
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Haven't said that in a while. I feel better now. <p> AVATAR footage tomorrow folks. Holy shit.
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Please retire, thanks.
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seriously, what the fuck happened to tim burton? and jonny depp, that fuckin douchebag. he sucks. always. ever since 21 jump street. i think he knows it too.
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It was fresh 20 years ago. There's something tired to it all now.
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That is all.
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Look like that cgisociety.org made all of his shit. It looks cool in still photos, but not as a movie.
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That looks like pure, utter, complete dogshit.
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http://www.superherohype.com/imageGallery/Comic-Con/Comic-Con_2009/large/hr_Comic-Con_2009_123.jpg
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will make $100 million domestic and probably at least $200-$250 worldwide and you're saying Depp can't bring in people without Pirates? BS
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that Tim Burton-type font. Hell, they even sullied the Coraline dvd cover with it, above the title.<p>I think I'll wait for the dvd release on this one.<p>Strangely enough though, I like the floating cat head. But it's not enough to get me in the theater.
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Beetlejuice, Batman, Batman Returns, Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood. And that's about it. Mars Attacks was fun but the beginning of his slide into mediocrity.
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Had been disappointed with Burton's movies. Wasn't thrilled with his Willy Wonka. Didn't like Mars Attacks. Hated Planet of the Apes. Thought Corpse Bride was...meh. But then he did Sweeny Todd and WOW, THAT'S a fucking great movie right there. So I can't say I've given up on him, but don't have high hopes for this one. As always, production design will be great...but something will be lacking.
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Public Enemies cost 100 mil to make and probably a lot more to advertize....people don't make movies to break even.
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That's movie marketing for you. You really shouldn't judge any movie by it's trailer, they never really paint an accurate picture. --- I'll go see this, but in the end, it's just another adapation of ALICE IN WONDERLAND and there's already been about 50 billion of them.
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Was Burtons last cool movie, everything after has sucked. Its partly because Danny Elfman sucks now as well. His last decent score was Planet. Still got my tops card that came with the soundtrack with that one. Was there even a Top Trading card line of Planet of the apes? Do they still making trading cards?
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Are better then the actual movie.
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Who cares how much money it made? It's not like they were looking to do a sequel, and for those who liked it, it exists for them. Enjoy.
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Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sweeney Todd and Nightmare Before Xmas if that qualifies. Sleepy Hollow, Charlie&CF, Batman, Big Fish, Batman Returns & Mars Attacks were ok. Didn't love Bettle Juice and hated Planet of the Apes. All in all though, his stuff is pretty great. Alice looks to be in the upper echelon of his films.
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He was considered box office poison before Pirates, remember? <br> <br> Tim Burton's visuals just make me want to puke anymore. What used to be so cool is now just...different. <br> <br> I don't now why, I really can't put my finger on it and I have tried over and over again. They're just...gross in some way. <br> <br> I had lost all patience and trust in Burton these last few years, especially after that 2 hour Burton visual cumshot that was Willy Wonka. Then I saw the stills and artwork for this and thought...maybe...maybe he's got this right. After watching this trailer I feel nauseous. And I don't know why! <br> <br> Depp is great with a director who reigns him in a bit and doesn't fully trust him. You could feel in the first Pirates movie that the director didn;t know what the hell to do with him, it all felt hesitant every time he was on screen. The other two movies showcased Depp and that's why they failed. <br> <br> Burton gives Depp free reign and we get that overly, silly, slightly creepy but not in a good way version of Johnny Depp. Like a child molester. You can see that happening here, and it looks as thought Burton has made this as a stage for Depp and not for the story. <br> <br> Somebody take all of Tim Burton's money away and get his wife to start fucking someone else, bring some starving artist back into his life and let's get back to the real Tim fucking Burton. And for God's sakes, keep Johnny Depp away from him, they are both so much better now when not together. <br> <br> Wow, I'm really shocked at how this trailer has soured me and turned me off of this movie so much. By time this hits theaters, we will have seen so many trailers and commercials for it, I'll want to stick a darning needle into my piss hole to make it stop. Burton's done, he's just gone so far over the edge trying to perfect and evolve his vision that his movies are all a pastel smorgasboard of that vision and hollow outside of it. I wonder what a 20 year old Burton would have thought if he saw this trailer.
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it'll happen someday
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I don't know why people keep saying this was a great movie or their favorite Tim Burton movie. I saw that in the theater and people were either sleeping or walking out. And the theater was already 1/2 empty. I really wanted to like it myself, Tim Burton was still peaking back then, but I was bored. I did watch it on DVD a few years back and I 'get it' more now, but still, it's not the greatest thing ever. And for the record, ED WOOD was Burton's greatest achievement. But it's not my favorite. That award goes to PEE WEE'S BIG ADVENTURE.
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"Computer says, 'Nooo.'" <cough!>
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Was Burtons greatest achievement. Ed Wood may be his best movie, but Edward Scissorhands is his most important.
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His only movie that is good when he acted all wild and loonie is Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, and that's because the lunacy was the point. Otherwise, Depp is always better and good when he acts more restrained and going for subtle.
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July 22, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST
Great..as if the "Depp as the Joker" talk wasn't as retarded alr
by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer
No we get this.
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time machine anyone?
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July 22, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST
TO ME IT SHOWS THAT BURTON WATCHED A LOT OF GHIBLI MOVIES FOR TH
by Vitter
I MEAN LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF THAT CAT, IT´S SOOOO GHIBLI!! SAME CAT YOU SEE IN TOTORO
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Just a damn cool movie. Batman was great, too. He killed his career with Batman Returns.
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I know it would suck, but I still think they are funny as hell.
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Played every part in this movie. Now THAT would be a creepy ass Alice adaption worthy of my money
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I hope the floating cat head fucks you in the ass, so that you have finally a good reason to hate cats!
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with the paraplegic?
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He said that he would never release it to DVD as well. He just wanted to go around and present it. The film is made up of people with some sort of metal handicap, I forget which one. Down syndrome maybe.
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an Oscar for this and about time!
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Maybe one already has! Have you ever considered that?
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Nothing in this has got me excited or interested in any way. Such an over use of CGI makes it look like a cartoon. Very poor. Man I hate CGI. Really fucking hate it.
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July 22, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST
IT SAYS ON THE IMDB THAT THIS WAS SHOT DIGITALLY....
by CarlThorMark1978
On a combo of the Panavision Genesis and a new camera called the DALSA Evolution. If this is true then I'm looking forward to seeing an HD copy of the trailer. The YouTube trailer looks beautiful.
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its as iconic as any other memorable image in the stories. might as well off the white rabbit and alice herself, because they all visually and reasonably work together to tell carroll's story.
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There was a time when Tim Burton seemed as though he wanted to turn the world upside down, fill the cinema screens with the kind of things you'd never see anywhere else, and genuinely amaze people.<p>Years later and he's lost whatever spark it was that made him become a director in the first place. He's become something of a parody of himself, as though he has a list of 'Burtonisms' and feels he HAS to include them in his movies, just like he HAS to have Depp in there somewhere doing something crazy or 'funny'.<p>I miss the old Burton. He really was a breath of fresh air back in the days of Edward Scissorhands.
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to watch this???
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But since cats or their floating heads don't fuck people in the ass, I highly doubt that.
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Cause it was so shitty.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHQea4nXHeA
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cinematical.com, but not sure for how long...
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It was his first GREAT movie since Ed Wood. But it dissapoints me when Burton goes for generic flicks like Alice and Charlie which, despite the fantastic visuals, feels like he's on autopilot.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHQea4nXHeA
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Fuck Johnny Depp.
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hahahahahahaha!
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I just want to erm... see the movie advert as I may yet go see it.
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as the caterpillar.
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Burton is sleepwalking again. Feels like I've seen it before. This looks just like every other Alice I've ever seen, starting with the silent film. Nothing new brought to the table.
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I've never been a fan of the whole gothic thing and that's kind of all Tim Burton is. I enjoyed some of his work but honestly, think about his work on Batman ,read the Sam Hamm script and realize that somebody fucked with it big time. Who wanted to make Prince a center piece of the film? I ain't blaming Burton but if weird ass shoe fits it probably belongs to that creepy fucker. Also, want to take bets that he lets Depp fuck his wife?
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We need an OBIT!! WAS ONE FINE BITCH!
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He's either a mad genius or really fucking crazy.If he played a Batman villian in a Christopher Nolan directed sequel....holy shit. I have to go out on a limb and say I don't understand his work as a director. Fucking strange cat that Crispin Glover.
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he died of a stroke - guess he heard they let Michael Vick out of jail
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I was addressing the fact that some dipshit said Depp couldn't bring in audiences without Pirates. Public Enemies hitting $200-$250 million worldwide is bringing in audiences. I wasn't talking about the profitability of the movie.
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A friend of mine was working as the staff nurse at a meat prosessing plant near by and he told me that one of the department heads explained to him that Taco Bell, which this plant supplied, used the lowest grade of meat possible. That means they put in Taco Bell what they DON'T put in hot dogs such as pig uteruses which they had a big shipment of the day my friend told me this and it was all going into the Taco Bell order.
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man i get a bit tired of tim burton-ness... the fact that i know what the music is going to sound like in his films, etc... BUT this looks fucking AWESOME. Shit I've never seen before.
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http://www.filmstar.se/sv/161271/video/2009-07-22/alice-i-underlandet-%20trailer/
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July 22, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST
I didn't even realize the Taco Bell dog was still alive
by lockesbrokenleg
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someone post that bitch up somewhere else...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= NPY0LR8vuI0
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The hair balls with teeth from critters
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And was debunked years ago: http://tinyurl.com/9nvls <p> Do you believe everything you're told, CarlThorMark1978, or just everything your friends tell you? Either way, you really should develop an interior bullshit meter.
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I can't romanticize that shit like some of my friends. The food is just assy.
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but it's not sub-grade or failing grade meat. It's probably the same grade of meat they put in all ground beef, which is a few notches lower than choice or prime, but safe nonetheless. As far as slaughterhouse product quality goes, read 'Fast Food Nation.' If you think its just Taco Bell that gets icky meat, you're living in a bubble of illusion.
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So much of it just looks wrong and messed up. Tweedledee / dum and the Queen of Hearts? WTF!?
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Can't find it up anywhere
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http://www.you tube.com/user/dyikini#play/uploads/0/lmIHe-Fs3xU
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"Harry/Beaks/Merrick here...I remember watching the taco bell dog when I was younger, and having the beanie baby on my desk.." -Well..you get it.
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. . it will start with, "I'm good friends with the Taco Bell dog, and he calls me at home often."
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July 22, 2009, 5:40 p.m. CST
jimmay, THIS WAS INFO FROM INSIDE THE MEAT PLANT....
by CarlThorMark1978
It was the fucking department head. This wasn't some kids talking shit at a mall. Also, the phrase "urban legend" is used much like "conspiracy theory" and both are used WAY to much to try to dismiss information these days. Taco Bell uses meat that they wont serve to prisoners btw :)
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July 22, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST
The Taco Bell died today, tomorrow, he'll be a meal.
by lockesbrokenleg
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You can scarcely disprove hearsay, now can you? Of course hearsay by itself proves absolutely nothing, so I guess you really don't have to.
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All his movies pretty much look the same anyway. I bet the movie I'm picturing in my head is pretty damn close to whats gonna be on the screen. Lotsa black and white candy cane striped shit I imagine.
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He sucks!
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And I think it's a little UN-inspired to put Burton on this. But there is some brilliance in this trailer. Much more excited now... the music, particularly that little hook towards the end is great. Is it original for this or from another film, does anyone know??
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BEEP BOOP BEEP BOOP BEEP DAH DAH DAH DAH DAAAAAAHHH!!
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http://s.moviesmovies.ign.com/movies/video/article/100/1006148/alice_wondr_tease1_072209_flvlowwide.flv
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Can be found here aswell http://www.filmofilia.com/2009/07/22/10010/
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and seriously. It's like you noobs fail to mention Big Fish because it defeats your argument. He is extremely formulaic but he put that aside when he made that film. Otherwise I think he is fairly washed up. But still his films entertain me sometimes. Also Depp is a fucking brilliant actor. Shits all over Bale and company. Not as good as Ledger though.
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...the way he tends to 'burtonize' everything, so it all looks the same. Individually, SLEEPY HOLLOW, BIG FISH, BATMAN RETURNS, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS et al all are fine movies, but they're so redundantly 'burtonized'. Instead of adding something to the source material to make that visual / cinematic / better, the effect is the same; it gets dumbed down to a kid-gothic feel. Twisty trees, black-haired loners as protagonists, popular culture tropes, parpy Elfman scores , staginess over cinematic space. Burton imposes his aesthetic on the material, rather than uses his abilities to make the source material (Burton tends to remake existing pop-cult properties) cinematic / fresh. That's maybe not a criticism that's unique to Burton, there's plenty of directors from Michael Bay to David Cronenberg who do similar things (and there's a sentence I didn't think I'd be typing); the issue with Burton is that he's so obvious about it. Even though the individual movies may work well (BIG FISH and SWEENEY TODD are particular favourites of mine from his recent work), they tend to blur into one over time.
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I was kidding around. Apologies if that was not evident.
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Give the Master and Commander sequel news, hidden away in the Robin Hood story right now, its OWN story and talkback? <p> Also, would you put up a DAMN SPOILER WARNING for the Orphan review? Just because you now have the keys to the castle doesn't mean you get to start slacking off now.
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That's all I get from this, and I don't mean that as a compliment. Shame, I was looking forward to this.
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Youtube fucking sucks (has for the last few years)
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despite what bs your "department head meat packing plant nurse friend" feeds you, FDA regulations would never allow (or miss) a chain as large as Taco Bell to serve meat of that quality. You can say it all you want, but it sounds to me like you used to work for Toxic Hell and hold a grudge and are trying to destroy their "reputation" on an IMB, but no fool with half a brain would believe your obviously false allegations...you probably believe the one about McDonald's using rat meat and Jack in the Crack using horse meat, too (I bet your meat packer told you about them, too)
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Weird.
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Stop with the crappy CGI already! Can somebody please make a movie that still looks like fucking reality?
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and I love it.
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I'm going insane. I finally get a chance to see this movie, and it goes away cuz I was doing some shit work. Ahhh!
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This is a Disney film!...I also wanted to bang Ariel and Pocahontas, so maybe it's just me.
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...and even though she shrinks out of her dress, giving at least the chance of possible nudity, or even a nipple-peek, again she is now 19 and therefore Lewis Carroll would no longer be interested.
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It's on the Internet you dumb fucks at Disney, give it up!
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So I read all the comments and expected to hate it. I thought that it looked good. A little Burton, but mostly, it looked like Alice in Wonderland.
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Is the Queen supposed to look that disproportionate? It's a little off-puting
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July 22, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST
Tim Burton applies goth eyeliner to his asshole every morning
by ChoclateWoman
before going to work. Fact.
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Hilarious!<P> But no, seriously fix it. It's distracting.
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Is there is grass, or in her case scales, on the field; play ball! Actually...given the age of consent laws of Victorian England,or lack there of as those were sensible, logical people; banging Alice wouldn't be a crime either.
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2010 can't get here soon enough.
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http://tinyurl.com/q3x32n if your still having trouble. (- spaces)
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For some reason a message pops up that says something like "Due to copyright fucktard laws (I made that part up) this video is unavailable in your country".
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And Princess Jasmine and Belle too. And don't forget Pocahontas.
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Haha, I'm in Australia and it works. Fucking idiots man. They ban it being played in the states (where it's legal) from an Aussie youtube account... why not just ask me to take the thing down.
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there is clearly a wide open market for a Marketing Director or Strategist who can see how things have changed and in turn, change the system itself. I'm pretty out of the know as well, but what is wrong with millions of people seeing this product??? It can only help their cause!?? Are they worried anyone outside the US can't handle some Alice in fucking Wonderland or something? They just don't get it right now.
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Although if they make the Madhatter the star and Alice an afterthought, I'm going to be serious pissed.
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And how can a man with clearly so much imagination fail to excite me with each subsequent movie. Mr. Burton, go back to original material so we can get excited again. Please. Because there is absolutely nothing else that needs to be said about the world of Alice in Wonderland. Even with Depp in Willy Wonka mode, this looks, feels and sounds like a big fucking snooze.
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Brilliant!
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Reaching for something he feels he hasn't achieved yet? That being said, while he clearly has a vivid imagination - doesn't mean it has to be a 'broad' one so to speak. The style in this IS Burton, but i think it's different enough - subtley. It looks like he's made these people almost slapstick, which is great for this over the top world.
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If you still haven't seen it, go to filmaniac.ca to check it out before Disney pulls it!
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Why does every Burton/Depp movie have to have creepy close ups of huge odd smiles.
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July 22, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST
I think it's because Burton crams so much into the trailer
by lockesbrokenleg
by the time the actual movie comes out, I don't give a shit about it.
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There's nothing wrong with the trailer..it looks like a nice fun family movie.
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til I saw the trailer. It seems to be removed just enough from Burton that it is a win in my book.</p><p>Also, for the record, I know on any sort of artistic level, it sucked, but I enjoyed the hell out of Sleepy Hollow. Just fun. No more. No less.
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We all knew Tim Burton was gonna do this eventually. I hate his "Let's take this classic story and make it ugly!" approach. It only worked for Sweeny Todd and Batman. Everything else is garbage.
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that's just some shite slapped onto the trailer, yes? Please don't let that be from the actual soundtrack it was dreadful.<p> As for the rest it just looked kind of boring.
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And he doesn't get a Talkback..... <p> THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT!
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And he doesn't get a Talkback..... <p> THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT!
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To everyone who's been asking, the music from the trailer is from the Lemony Snicket film and was composed by Thomas Newman. It's actually not a bad score at all. I believe it was nominated for an Oscar, too.
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July 22, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST
I just wanted to write so my words would appear center line.
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
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At least the last cue you hear is from Lemony Snicket. I suspect the beginning and middle are just generic trailer music.
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July 22, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST
Ok Burton, just f@#! Depp and get it over with already...
by effector12
Edward Scissorhands, Sleepy Hollow, Ed Wood, Corpse Bride, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Sweeney Todd. We get it, you LOVE Depp and want to choke on his nutz. There are other actors out there that don't suck as bad.
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UMM YEAH!---CAN YOU HERE ME? ----L-LET ME GET TWO OF DEM CHALUPAS! WITH X-TRA CHIHUAHUA MEAT!
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Here is the site he was referring to<br><br>http://filmaniac.ca/?p=326 (minus any spaces)<br><br>I was kinda meh'd by it, but it is just a teaser.
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Comes a movie that looks like every other movie he made
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July 22, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST
Looks good but I was expecting something darker
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
And I agree with an earlier post that Alice seems a bit old. I'm curious to who's scoring this film... aren't Burton and Elfman's professional relationship on the fritz?
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I'll stick with my 80's version with Sammy Davis Jr. One of my all time greatest dvd scores, I flipped out when I found it in a 4.99 bin last year...this looks I dunno...pointless...I would have much rather had the Wes Craven one...damnmnit
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at 0:21-0:24 [first vid], right before she hits the ground, her face looks so very Polar Express-y.
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http://www.wwtdd.com/page/2/
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the CGI looks really awful
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but i'm 40 now. he hasn't changed his style much in all this time. it's cutesy poo and all that, it's just not what i'm interested in anymore.
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http://tinyurl.com/lna9o2
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http://tinyurl.com/my88jv
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...I've immediately lost interest. Makes me nostalgic for the old cartoon, hell, that NBC miniseries from ten years back looks better than this.
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July 23, 2009, 1:51 a.m. CST
Forget everything you thought you knew about "Alice"...
by TheFreeScreeningWhore
Woolverton's script is completely different and completely brilliant.
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and Alice was cooler than this. McCoy was thinking about Alice in Wonderland on the Shore Leave planet, and the Rabbit appeared.
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Who needs to see the finished thing when you can judge it based entirely on a 95 second trailer. Sorry I forgot how thick people are these days. That's sarcasm that is. You can't tell because the Internet is a shit form of communication used mainly by cowards.
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Anyone ever seen the Czech version of Alice in Wonderland?
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By the Yeah Yeah Mehs, will probably be the trailer song.
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Surprised how much I dug the heck out watching that.
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interesting... you just made me think.
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People always bash the two working together yet Burton's most critically praised movies have been with Depp. I don't recall people getting upset with Scorsesse and DeNiro working together all the time. As for Burton..he has a unique style. Look at Alice you know it's a Burton movie however it looks different from anything he has done. He has proven to be a great storyteller and able to bring some of the greatest stories to life unlike no other really can. Depp is also by far one of today's best character actors. He can pull off ANY type of role. Looking forward to Alice.
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AND ENGAGE IN NIGHTLY ANAL GANGBANGS
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and it be stinkin up the joint. very vaporous day
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and believe me, it's a hard admission to make. i like burton well enough, it's just that i'd rather see him broaden his horizons.
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will Tim Burton ever make a normal movie?...enough with the quirky films...all his films look the same visually
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Please post some more links to this trailer... the prodco are being Nazis.
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July 23, 2009, 3:56 a.m. CST
Tim Burton should go ahead and followup w/ Beauty & the Beast.
by GibsonUSA Returns
That'd be pretty cool.
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sounds almost like the Oompa Loompa song from the Gene Wilder version.
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I like the floaty head cat. I also like the CG. CG doesn't have to be photo real, here it has a stylized look, it's perfect for this film.
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at least he has one. That can’t be said of 95% of the incestuous blockbuster directors today. I know which version of Batman I prefer.
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stupit disney peepoles thinkin dey can git off whatz been puts on
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Either release the trailer and make it available, or don't release it. But DON'T play this ridiculous game of cat and mouse. You have made me want to hate this movie already.
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People go on and on about his visual style. But is it REALLY all that? For me, absolutely not. His style is a misdirection, intended to make the viewer ignore the fact that his films are devoid of content. There are endless better visual stylists, but their visual skills aren't praised because their other skills as filmmakers are even stronger. Examples? GUILLERMO DEL TORO. Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy II are the kinds of films Burton could only make in his dreams. And visually every bit as gorgeous as anything he has produced. ALFONSO CUARON. Y to Mama Tembien, Harry P and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Children of Men. Each of them with totally jaw-dropping visuals, whether it's in a 'real' or 'fantasy' world. And those Shrieking Shack scenes in Potter as as German Expressionist as anything in Burton. JEUNET & CARO. Delicatessen and The City of Lost Children. Check them out. They're like Tim Burton but, uh, better. Oh, and you know what all of these guys have in common? They would never, ever, do anything as idiotic as remaking a classic like PLANET OF THE APES.
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I like Cuaron so I won’t argue about him, but the other ones? Please?! That’s exactly why I like Burton, he can mix style AND substance. Let’s go through your list: Del Toro, now that’s an overrated director if ever there is one. Pan’s Labyrinth was all style and no substance. If you’re going to set-up a fantasy world why not use it to the maximum, he only used it rather clumsily (it felt like 2 separate movies) to eventually give us a contrived war movie. Jeunet’s Amelie and his Big Fish were also comparable but where Amelie was all sugar-coated whimsyness, Big Fish had a beating heart. So what Burton made an average remake, there’s always the original. Jeunet helped to kill the Alien franchise!
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That was even more lazy than I could have possibly imagined... I mean, really, when you can predict EXACTLY what a directors version of a classic story is going to be before seeing a single frame it's time to set that director out to pasture... Give Burton 10 million bucks and make him make one more bad ass original film.. if he fails well then so long Timmy. It's been real. <P> Seriously, this looks fucking BOOOOOOORING.
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Listen you art school dropouts, Burton hasn't been "brilliant", as you're so fucking fond of saying every time he shows you a twisty tree, since Pee Wee and Beetlejuice. Grow the fuck up.
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You're right this looks really BOOOOOORRRRING... And I am dead inside. It's Alice In Fucking Wonderland for god sake. A book with a highly detailed world that's been visualised countless times. What the fuck do you think the film's going to look like? It's going to look like Alice In Wonderland you twat! If Burton had completely re-imagined the thing and brought a new "vision" you can bet your whiney ass you'd have complained about him straying too far from the book. What a loud of bollocks.
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Now, I personally love his work because it's distinctive, with a hand made feel that comes from an animator (a bit like Terry Gilliam). However, like any artist, if you don't like the style you won't enjoy it. Fair enough. For me though, I love the way he works and what he produces. Sweeney Todd was brilliant and a fantastic musical, Chocolate Factory was pleasing. Even with Apes, his most studio shackled film, he still produced a weird ending that got everyone talking, again for better or worse.
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When i heard Depp was going to be the Mad Hatter i just thought that he'd mimmic Sparrow, or Ichabod Crane, or GodForbid Willy Wonka. The tiny acting i saw on the trailer, before it was ripped away from the internet, showed that he probably won't do any of them, maybe he's going on a different crazy direction. That's the vibe i got.
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I bet you are one of those who thinks that Jar Jar Abrams' Star Trek is a brillant movie. And that Michael Bay Denis' The Island is intelligent SF.
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July 23, 2009, 7:55 a.m. CST
Taco Bells, Pizza Hut, McDonals, KFC and Burger King are all shi
by AsimovLives
Really really very fucking terrible shit. I pity (in sympathy) for all americans who only know food from those mega-chains. You don't know what you are losing.
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July 23, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST
Taco Bells, Pizza Hut, McDonals, KFC, Burger King, are all shit
by AsimovLives
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It's called "Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll", and it really looks like he's pulling a real new twist and vision into the Lewis Carroll classic. Instead of Tim Burton's movie, which is just another repetition of the saem old thing with his so-called "style" as sallad dressing. I call bullshit on the Tim Burton movie. I'm dead tired of this guy, i really am.
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now that's funny. What's next? Rob Zombie's Wind in the Willows?
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now you're being a bit arrogant, aren't you. If you have ever read my posts you would know I hate Michael Bay. I thought Star Trek was a slightly above average blockbuster. So certainly didn't hate it, but also didn't love it. What did I do to make you think that I love Michael Bay? More importantly, why should I care about the opinion of someone who is interested in anything Marilyn Manson does? Manson, the biggest poseur in the music business, who can only shock nuns who lived on Antarctica for 10 years and who is basically the Puff Daddy of metal since he can only recycle 80’s hits.
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srsly wtf
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There's not enough weirdness in mainstream cinema anymore. Tim Burton + Alice In Wonderland = Match Made In Heaven. There are no big directors (Gilliam aside) who could do this kind of tale as much justice. That Burton's imagination has been so consistent with his cinematic eye is laudable. He's been the most interesting guy in Hollywood for years now, and will continue to be until his death. Although it's obviously easier to bitch than praise these days, such is the cynical nature of sites like these for people who have nothing else to live for but movies and bitching about movies that don't match their vision. If you're not being paid for your vision then your vision is about as useful as a fart in a spacesuit.
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(I love that character. A Good Man In Africa, no?) Always nice to chat to a fellow-hater of films by Michael Bay. Just to say - I mentioned Jeunet and Caro as a double act. But not on their own. I hate Amelie and I hate Alien Resurrection. But Delicatessen was rather delicious, although admittedly frivolous. Now, as to Del Toro - I'll definitely admit that films like Blade 2 didn't have much substance. But I was captivated by The Devil's Backbone, and Pan's Labyrinth. As well as being about 'growing up' (especially growing from a girl to a woman), it seemed to me to be interrogating the whole idea of fantasy - what is fantasy for? Do her fantasies (presuming that's what they are) exist because her reality is so terrible, she needs to escape from it? I think so - but what she finds is that fantasy is a dangerous place too, requiring just as much courage and sacrifice. Which, again, makes one interrogate what exactly fantasy is for - why do we conjure up these fantasies? (Urgh, OK, I'm just babbling on now. Guys? Wanna back me up? Guys...?)
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I hate loads of Gilliam too. Don't get me wrong, I love BRAZIL, and I think that 12 MONKEYS is genius, a really wonderful, moving film. But THE BROTHERS GRIMM? You serious? And what he was planning to do to DON QUIXOTE would have Cervantes turning in his grave. Ah, now we are on to Grave Turning. Burton has already tried to make Roald Dahl turn in his grave. Now it's Lewis Carroll's turn. Have you noticed how Burton is lauded as a visionary, but much of the time he's just taking OTHER people's visions and messing them up. You want a visionary? Real PARADISE LOST. Look at some Caravaggio...
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Nice to see people can still appreciate a good book once in a while. I can see what Del Toro was trying to do with Pan’s Labyrinth. He was using a strong visual, escapist world to contrast with the harsh reality of war. Normally I really like movies that let the images do the talking (like Burton does-sometimes). However in the case of Pan’s Labyrinth I don’t believe Del Toro entirely succeeded in his upset. The transition between the two worlds felt too big and the movie didn’t spent enough time in the dream world to really make an impact. So all in all, the result was a bit of a conventional movie about the horrors of war.
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Youv'e just experienced AssimovLives trademark STAR TREK/Michael Bay cutdown that he reserves for anyone that appears to go against his pompous uber-elite tastes. There is no being "a bit arrogant" with him. He swims in arrogance.<P>I'm sure his reply to this post will be epic in its arrogance as well.
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Man first they lose Billy Mays, now they lose their biggest hit. I wouldn't want to be the next Taco Bell spokes person.
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Yeah I know I should be aiming higher than Burton - Frank Zappa and Andrei Tarkovksky are my favourite 'visionaries' so to speak. I just don't think he deserves the bad rap he gets while people like Michael Bay still breathe. His vision of Sondheim's Sweeney Todd was quite spectacular, which leads me to believe he's not totally bereft of his peculaiar yet palatable gothic imagination just yet. His body of work is consistent enough that he doesn't deserve all the vitriol...same as Gilliam's. Everyone makes mistakes, just some mistakes are in public eye and then whatever good they've done is diminished via short sighted hyperbole.
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This movie is going to bomb. After seeing that trailer I have no idea if this film is meant for kids, adults, or mental patients. It looks like a jumbled mess, starting with Alice being an adult. Remember Diana Ross in The Wiz?
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with Sweeney Todd. Hopefully, Alice will redeem him for Willy Wonka.
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with Mark Hamil and Lance Henriksen and should be out this year.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Diana Ross was in her 30's when she did the Wiz. This girl is 17, hardly an adult. And how is this a jumbled mess? Clarify. Make a point. At the very least make sense.
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recently his output has been hit and miss. I hated Sweeney todd. I found the movie to be a grinding experience and it ground me down. I mean it looked great. IT was such a slog of a movie. eventually I gave up watching.
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Should be older with white hair. And as another talkbacker mentioned he should arrogant and aristocratic. I blame Burton, not Depp. Depp can do pretty much whatever you ask him to. To anyone who thinks I'm nitpicking, I think everything else looks pretty accurate to the source material.
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Out of interest - you a Droog? As in Drogheda. I really enjoyed Sweeney Todd...thought the dodgy singing was alleviated by the story, acting and visuals. I don't care if they can't sing...they look like they care.
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Have you ever tried watching one of the broadcasts of the play or another adaptation. There's one with Ben Kingsley. I think you would dislike them even more. Burton did his best to jazz up the source material.
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After that brilliant movie, (3 Sith Lords in one Movie) his films have been undigested shit.
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Step in a bear trap much? I consider myself a Burton fan, but I wasn't wild about Apes and Charlie. They felt like work-for-hire, which they were. I kind of get the same vibe off of this trailer, but I won't judge until I've seen the movie. Anyone who says you can always judge a movie by the trailer is WRONG. You might get it right sometimes, but not 100%.
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and I am live in dun laoghaire. The gate theatre production has been hailed the best production ever. even stephen sondheim said so and that was 2008. The movie looked great.
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Ed wood Sleepy hollow Edward Scissorhands
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Go Fuck Yourself We_like_it_VERY_MUCH
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Goopd to know you have justified hate for Michael Bay Denis. That's the first step unto the path of wisdom. However, your path is blocked by your high opinion of Jar Jar Abram's Star Trek. For it's true that any other opinion about that piece of shit movie higher then thinking it's a piece of shit movie is to be an over-appreciative and over-hyped opinion of that piece of shit movie.<br><br>As for arrogance, welcome to AICN, you will need it here.
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The retard keeps on proving to the world how retard he is. abnd he does nothing, and i means NOTHING ELSE in here but to try to turn people again me. For reazons only a retarded like him can know. All i know is that if one gets under the skin of a retard like Mr. Nice Gaius, then one must be doing something very right.
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See what I mean?<P>:^)
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I love his style but lately it jus tseems liek he's making the same damn movie over and over. I'll stil lsee this though.
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Jesus.
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We none of us perfect (have that with the bloody library computer.) I love it when people say "If you don't agree with me, you're a..." It is possible to listen to both sides and form your own opinion.
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badtouchbadtouchbadtouch
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I've been a fan for ages, but I haven't seen one of his movies in the theater since Apes. This could change that.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You fucking retard. I expect the typical, pointless and transgressive "STOP THE CGI" whines. But this criticism is mind-bogglng.What is he supposed to do?? Ang Leeize them? Kubrickize them? What the fuck is your point? He's hired for his vision and does it, good or bad. He's done different things (APES, garbage, ED WOOD & BIG FISH). I agree his string of remakes/adaptations is getting ridiculous but Ive liked them all. I always hated Gene Wilders crappy WONKA movie. And SLEEPY HOLLOW is my favorite Burton. Of course, he Burtonized it. But only a moron would dislike it for that reason.
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Remeber when she had that short hair? Was not a fan of that. She really has gotten to the point with the movies she driects, she just Belladonaizes herself all the time now.
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Looks insane!!!
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Well color me square, but I happen to dig Burton movies. Ed Wood, Pee Wee's Big Adventure, his two Batman movies, Bettlejuice, A Nightmare Before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands and Sleepy Hollow are all very fine movies. Yes, most of those movies are at the beginning, but I think we've all been spoiled by a guy who came out of the gate smacking home runs. I'll give Alice a shot. It may be a typical looking Burton movie, but I'd rather see that than most of the garbage that has come out this year.
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By Henry Selick aka the director of Nightmare Before Christmas. Most films this year have been at best very good or solid. The real deal can't come soon enough.
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Like it or not, Burton has a his own distinct style, which is more than I can say for some directors. He's reliable in that way- when I see a movie has been made by Tin Burton, I know at the very least it's going to be visually interesting. Hating on the man because he has a unique style is absurd. What should he do, direct somber, tedious Oscar-bait?
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I'd rather see him do that then a Hot Topic promotion. I mean look at Ed Wood.
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A dull, over plotted 3 hour mess.
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at least it won't be next year's Bayformers, 3 hour POS.
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And I'm not saying Burton can't do "serious", real life-based stuff. Sometimes, reality's pretty bizarre, right? But he just excels at pure escapist entertainment. When he's not lost in his own visuals and delirious happenings, Burton is a fine storyteller. I think his biggest obstacle has always been balancing whimsy and satire. Sleepy Hollow and Sweeney Todd are personal favorites of mine. Hopefully, Alice will be ABOUT something, not just a series of weird images.
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I don't think you can shoehorn Sin City visuals into this one, and this definitely has a better calibre of actor involved. As for Ed Wood, it was a passion project. Those films tend not be equalled (eg Michael Mann with Heat)
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http://www.bigtimeboxoffice.com
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oh, right.
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he is still in pirate mode so this looks terrible
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It's like a sequel story. 60% of all talkback posts are invalid.
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unannounced at the Disney panel.
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was better than "Up". And the academy will never admit it because they refuse to remove Pixar's cock from their mouths.
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And I agree...the Depp line was a bit much. Still looks visually amazing though!
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And SIR Christopher Lee as the voice of the jabberwock(y). I kidd you not. NOT Lewis Caroll, but heck, I Love it.
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If both sides make valid points they can give pretty good reasons in support, absolutly.
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Big Fish finally did it for me. One of the worst piece of bad pastiche i ever seen of burton's movie, made worst that it was done by Burton himself. Complete nonsense idioticy. and made even worst by the stupid final message of the movie (bnetter to live in illusion then reality). Bullshit! It's one thing to point out the importanc eof excapism, it's another to say it's better to only embrace that and show a fig to reality. Fuck that bullshit. Even the master of "fantasy is cool and better then reality" advocate that is Terry Gilliam always points out the fallacies that is living by a fantasy world, in such movies as Brazil, The Fisher King and the extremely underrated (by Jar Jar Abram's ass kissers and dick suckers pseudo-geeks) Tideland.<br><br>Fuck Big Fish, fuck any movie Burton made since and including Planet Of The Apes, and fuck tim burton. To say he has proved a disapointment is the second biggest understatment of the year (the first being Jar Jar Abram's Star Trek is a very bad movie). Tim Burton, give up directing, please.
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Nobody knows what the fuck you're babbling on about, but the message of Big Fish wasn't that fantasy was somehow "better" than reality.
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The hell it wasn't. And you might correct your statment above to "I don't know what the fuck you're babbling on about", emphasis on YOU ALONE. It's easy to understand what i'm saying, just read the english words structured into sentenses. Or maybe you would prefer i would had writen in portuguese? I can do both.
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Read the English words? You mean words like "Sentenses" and "idioticy"? No thanks. <p> And no, it wasn't. You've shown a great ability to misinterpret nearly every element of a film. I suggest you give it up.
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Yes, really.<br><br>And i don't need you to learn how to interpret a movie, i can do that very, very well on my own, thank you very much.<br><br>And if you are one of those who were fooled by Jar Jar Abram's Star Trek (or Tim Burton's Big Fish for that matter) and you think it's a good movie, then you would be the last person i would learn anything from. Drinking the kool-aid is not my thing.
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Congrats. Your 6 foot tall golden douchebag award will be arriving in the mail. Remember, signatures are required.
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July 23, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST
I dropped out of the Burton train after Mars Attacks
by lockesbrokenleg
Never again.
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To ask what the fuck Star Trek has to do with anything. I think it's a great movie. And I fuckin' hate Kool-Aid. But I acknowledge some people may enjoy it and I don't look down on them.
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Cute. How can you get fooled into liking a movie? Why does it matter to you so much if someone likes Star Trek dude? You're acting like someone punched your grandmother over a god damn space movie. Same for Big Fish, which I liked. I don't understand why you can't just accept people liking other things than you like. Hating everything and talking shit doesn't make you look smarter, it just makes you look like a prick.
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No. No you can't. You're the guy who thought "Hook" wasn't a children's film.
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But I'm not a science fiction person. So I didn't care much for Star Trek. <p> But I DO know that it's nothing like Big Fish. Which, again, comes back to my point that nobody knows what the fuck you're getting at.
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Ed Wood is one of the greatest, i also like the two Batmans and think they fucking take a big sloppy deuce over Limeyman Begins and The Limey Knight.
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This guy's got an issue. I thought the original show and movies were okay, but I'm not what you'd call a Trekker. Abrams' film just made me give a hoot about Star Trek! At no time did I feel like I was being indocrinated into some cult. Uh, usually you just like something cuz you like it, it tickles your fancy. Not because everyone else likes it. I like the fiction of Robert E. Howard, graphic novels and horror movies. Whilst I'm aware that their are others like me, I don't feel like I'm part of some big club. Or maybe Abrams WANTS me to think that... Burton has had some misfires, some projects that look like self-indulgent whims. Edward Scissorhands is not the beloved classic to me that it is to some, and I didn't go apeshit over Big Fish the way some critics did. It's comforting to know that in that way, Burton is just like all other directors.
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If it deserves a second thought on any basis it'd be how stop motion is becoming a forgotten art. <p> It may lack in story, but I'll pop in that blu ray any day of the week to see the gorgeous imagery.
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Is it me, or do they look like DeVito in Batman Returns?
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Remember, the drugs are bad for you.
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For fuck's sakes, you only see what you want, and nothing else, do you?<br><br>What i said, and i pointed that out many, many times to the point of unambiguosity, is that Hook is a children mvoie made from THE POINT OF VIEW OF ADULTS. Which, for me, it's a bit antithetical to the very own nature of a children's story. So, i then gave an example of a Peter Pan movie which does the job right, in presenting a children's story from the point of view of the children, the 2003's Peter Pan movie. I repeated this point over and over, to the point it was beyond doubt what i ment. and yet, you blocked all that and what you only got was your misguided and malinformed idea of what i wrote about it? The problem is with you, not mine, friend. If i didn't knew better, i would say that you are DELIBERATLY sticking up to a misinterpretation. But i chose not to think about that about you, i prefer to see you in a better light then what you are portaiting yourself in your posts.
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It matters a lot what people think of that movie. It proves who are the kool-aid drinkers and who are not. It matters to see what people can accept, blindly, and against all that is reasonable. It matters if some people accept so well and blisdnly a movie which is one of the most misguided, stupid, dumb, badly made movie in th last 10 years, at least. It matters if people accept without question and go wioth the flow a movie which has one major problem in each of it's minute of screentime, a movie which has enough problems per minute that it would had killed any other different movie, but because it's Jar Jar Abrams' Star Trek, the piece of shit of the year which is cool to like, people ar eating all that up without questioning, like robots. So, yeah, it's very important for me to see where one stands on the Jar Jar Abrams' moronic brain-dead, stupid incompetent piece of shit Star Trek movie. It matters.
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You know how to have your interest in Star Trek picked up again? By watching the original shows. Good piece of entertaiment which put together both brain and fun, without one sacrificing the other. that's how you do it. and not like Jar Jar Abrams did, where the completly sacrificed intelligence for the sake of the most retarted type of "fun" i have seen outside of a Micheal Bay Denis' Transformers movie. Jar Jar Abrams' Star Trek is so bad, that M. Bay Denis' The Island looks smart and good in comparision, and The Island is one of the worst piece of shit i ever seen in my life.
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And i don't care for any movie that Burton will make in the future. I haven't seen his last 2 movies, and i'm all the better for that. Fuck him.
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The drugs are bad for me? Hilarious. Clearly you thought I was serious when I said calling Abrams Jar Jar was cute. It was the first time I read it, it isn't when you post it 3 times per ramble. You beat jokes to death worse than mid 1990's SNL skits. Why are you taking it so personal that someone like a movie that you had nothing to do with? And you defend movies like Brazil when Terry Gilliam wouldn't cross the street to meet you because you're a fucking prick. You are such an insulated bitter hateful little person. I just tried to make a point that people like other things than you and its ok. The whole purpose of life is to experience as much as you can, read all the books you can, watch movies, go everywhere you can. But nope, not for you, you're too happy sitting here bagging Tim Burton movies (which is totally cool and totally original. You have to be the first person to make it known you don't like Tim Burton) . "I haven't seen his last two movies, and i'm all the better for that" Yeah totally. Its much better to sit here and talk shit when you've never done anything. Its so much cooler to hide behind your screen name and take shots because you can't put yourself out there and make something. Fuck off, and capitalize your I's, not doing so makes you look lazy and like a fucking idiot.
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Learn What Ain’t It Cool’s TV Critic Thinks About STAR TREK: INTO DARKNESS, Next Week’s HANNIBAL, MAD MEN, GAME OF THRONES, The New Fall Shows And More!! Listen And Call In LIVE Saturday 8pm PT/11pm ET!! -- 220 total posts 105 posts - Nordling Reviews STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS! Spoilers Abound! You Are Warned! -- 988 total posts 63 posts
- Hey! Fat Face! Here's The New Teaser To ANCHORMAN: THE LEGEND CONTINUES! -- 201 total posts 60 posts
- UPDATE The Friday Docback Calls 'The Name of the Doctor'!! DOCTOR WHO's S7 Finale Arrives This Weekend!! Now With Glen's Ultra-Brief, SPOILER FREE MiniReview!! -- 312 total posts 54 posts
- Here's A Behind-The-Scenes Look At MAN OF STEEL With New Footage! Also... Is Supergirl In The Prequel Comic? -- 114 total posts 37 posts
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‘Darkness Will Devour Them All!!’
Sunday Brings Antepenultimate GAME OF THRONES For HBO!! -- 32 total posts 32 posts -
Ben Affleck Tonight Hosts
SNL’s 38th Season Finale!! -- 46 total posts 13 posts - 1st Trailer for Jean Pierre Jeunet's THE YOUNG AND PRODIGIOUS SPIVET!!! Joy Follows... -- 29 total posts 13 posts
- New PACIFIC RIM Trailer Takes A Battleship Upside The Head Of Every Other Summer Movie Trailer! -- 281 total posts 13 posts