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Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND Trailer Finds Its Way To The Internet...

Merrick here...
IGN has posted a trailer for Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND, which has been nabbed and embedded by Trailer Addict (HERE).

There's also a YouTube of the same, viewable below:

Someone needs to kill that damn floating cat head. Someone just...kill that thing...with extreme, unrelenting prejudice. I don't like that floating cat head very much. Not much at all.

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  • July 22, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST


    by grievenom

  • July 22, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    AHH! so close

    by DavidDunn

  • July 22, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    My Most Anticipated for 2010

    by grievenom

    Burton & Depp won't let us down!

  • July 22, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST


    by CB87

    Depp looks great

  • July 22, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Very much looking forward to this

    by SoylentMean

    and Dark Shadows. And pretty much anything Burton. Hopefully he's got the suck out of his system with Planet of the Apes and Big Fish behind him. Sweeny Todd was deliciously macabre (even though it was a fuckin' musical). If Burton can keep bringing his brand of Horror infused with Humor, well then I'm there.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Too much Johnny Depp

    by theBigE

    Is this the Alice and Mad Hatter show?

  • July 22, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    After this summer 2010 has to not suck, right?

    by SoylentMean

    While I'm hoping this fall and winter bring us some good flicks, well, let's just say the good has been widely outnumbered by the bad this year. This looks really, really promising, especially considering it's just a teaser trailer.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    they're definatly upselling johnny

    by logicalnoise01

    I never read through the looking glass but i doubt the mad hatter is as prevalent as he is in this trailer.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Depp? Check. Helena Carter? Check. Elfman. Check?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Shit movie? Check.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton's movies

    by kwisatzhaderach

    seem so neutered and watered down these days. I guess thats what happens when you work for Disney. Whatever happened to the talent that made Beetlejuice?

  • July 22, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST


    by MrPopular

    I was hoping he'd be making something darker. This was kinda blah in my eyes. Wasn't a fan of his Wonka either.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST


    by calnorso

    Looks fucking tits. This just might be his best one since Sleepy Hallow

  • July 22, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Didn't do anything for me...

    by castor778

    I'm not surprised, I'm usually left unimpressed by the marketing for just about every Tim Burton movie. His style is always interesting, but it never comes off well in trailer form for me. I'm not a major fan of his to begin with, but usually when I do get around to seeing his movies they are quite better than I had expected. I will still likely see this, and hopefully I will be impressed, but right now I could honestly care less...

  • July 22, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    I like the Cat Head more than I like the Mad Hatter

    by jimmay

    The cheshire cat at least seems in the spirit of the original. The mad hatter wasn't wholly elemental to the original, he was just one character amongst many. Why do I get the feeling they should rename this "Johnny Depp's The Mad Hatter Starring Johnny Depp."

  • July 22, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Soylent Mean: You would think so, wouldn't you?

    by CreasyBear

    Theoretically, there has to be a bottom somewhere, which G.I. Joe will probably manage to thud against. Aside from Star Trek and Harry Potter, I've felt like a fool every time I walked out of the theater this summer.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    I remember when I first heard about this

    by Series7

    And I said that Alan Rickman should be the catapiller...and he is! They fucked up though and should have gotten David Walliams for the cheshire cart.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    I wonder...

    by baba-lou2

    Does Tim Burton ever get as bored with himself as we do of him?

  • July 22, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST


    by Series7

  • July 22, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Film not out til March next year

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Yet we have a trailer already. I'll be sick of the sight of these images by the time March rolls around. Jim Cameron is a wise man keeping Avatar close to his chest til relatively near the release date.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    It can't be that dark since it's Disney.

    by HerbWestAustin

    unfortunately. how many versions of this story do we need?

  • July 22, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    I thought it might be good until I saw that

    by BoRock_A_Boomer

    Alice looks hot though

  • July 22, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Looks like they re-used the tree from SLEEPY HOLLOW

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Looks really great. Bit CGI-riffic but def enjoyable.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST


    by CarlThorMark1978

    So far, this has the most perfect casting of any Burton movie. I don't know why it's taken him so long to work with Glover.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST


    by Series7

    So he just copied the Disney movie and put real actors (sort of) in it. I had HIGH HOPES now I got low hopes. Charlie and the C&C Music Factory sucked fuck.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Pretty bad CGI

    by MrFloppy

    I hope it's a work in progress.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Is this new 3D technology any good?

    by Stabby

    I haven't seen one 3D movie yet and have not heard one person who did who was overwhelmed by it.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Looks terrible...

    by GingerBallz

  • July 22, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton's Jump The Shark Moment

    by Autodidact

    The exploding windmill at the end of Sleepy Hollow. Before that you couldn't really point to anything he made and call it hack.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    I think Burton has a love/hate relationship with Disney

    by jimmay

    He used to work for them, of course, and their post-professional relationship has been kind of shaky. He's made two interpretations of classics Disney has the intellectual monopoly on as far as public popularity goes, the first one was a forgettable blip (Hollow), and so far, I doubt this one will upstage Disney's original either. At this point, I'm not even sure it will upstage the non-Disney TV miniseries.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST


    by Autodidact

    Sleepy Hollow was awesome any time the horseman was in a scene. Too bad there was so much of that bullshit with Christina Ricci (nice tits).

  • July 22, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Tom Petty version still better.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 22, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Some slack jawed, jaded fucks in here


    The visual style of this trailer is fantastic. Go get yer Photoshop and show me something better, pussies.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Burton is becoming lazy and predictable now.

    by wowsah156

    Burton isnt really doing anything that he couldnt do in his sleep. Things that Tim Burton needs to do: 1: Make a proper horror movie not for kids. 2: Watch some Ken Loach movies and do a gritty movie about gay crack addicted male prostitues who die from Aids. 3: Help write some scripts for the Star Wars Tv turd from Lucas.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Bulimic Christina Ricci = Hot

    by Stabby

    Tom Petty Alice = Hot too. Petty also a better mad Hatter.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Anyone seen that Foreign version of Alice?

    by Series7

  • July 22, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    I'll say this for Burton...

    by Snookeroo

    he always has strong visuals. Unfortunately, they're all almost identical. The Mad Hatter looks like Willy Wonka after a hard days night. Or Beetlejuice with a hat. Or the penguin with red hair. And so on...<br><br>Unfortunately, interesting visuals do not a good movie make. And please, Hollywood, yes let's please make one more movie marketed to kids* that is dark in tone. We really, really need that.<br><br><br><br>*Yes, Virginia, I know the original story is written for all age groups with a lot of political overtones.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Does anybody else cringe here

    by StarchildAD

    when you hear this type of music playing in a movie theatre preview around other people knowing other people will hear the same thing you do? I dunno... But I do

  • July 22, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Things that Tim Burton needs to do:

    by Series7

    Stop casting Helena Bottom Burton in all of his movies. Ugh imagine them bumping nasties? And give John Deep original roles.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST


    by Dead_Geek

    ... Another boring Burton film. Yawn! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Anyone else think they are going to me a Little Britain movie?

    by Series7

    You know like Kevin and Perry Go Large?

  • July 22, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Crispen Glover does look awesome.

    by StarchildAD

    That motherfucking ho needs more work.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Lockesbrokenleg? Check. Troll Post? Check.

    by TheWaqman

    Contributing nothing useful to the talkback? Check. Anyways this film looks pretty cool. Lets hope it's less Willy Wonka. More anything else.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST


    by redkamel

    Does anyone else think there is WAY too much CGI? I mean Tweedledee and tweedledum, the reminded me of speed racer.

  • July 22, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST


    by dr sauch

    Johnny Depp needs to make good movies again. Tim Burton too. They keep re-making the same movie.

  • July 22, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Too early to judge the CGI

    by performingmonkey

    There's months and months to touch up the CGI. Don't say 'oh fake CGI there's too much CGI!!' we knew it was going to be a mostly CG movie ages ago. Give it a fucking rest you cunts.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    So the Mad Hatter's in evry scene?

    by Wandering_Prophet

    Is that why Burton changed around the story, to accomodate Depp in every single frame. Oh well. Looks ok for Burton. Relax Harry, the Chesire Cat is played by Stephen Fry, and if you remember the book, the floating head is sort of his thing

  • July 22, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Alice in Molesterland?

    by Iron-kong

    The Mad Hatter looks like he belongs on the sex offenders list. And that cat.... that horrible, horrible cat.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Depp, seems to be channeling Jack Sparrow who is

    by Stabby

    channeling Raul Duke a.k.a. Hunter S. Thompson.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    In the book, the Cheshire Cats head did indeed float

    by Stabby

    but I don't remember it flying around like that.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    I seem to remember the Cheshire Cat teleporting

    by Stabby

    from here to there, not flying bodiless.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

    One of the few remaining Burton Fans. Poor sap.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    looks like the most whitewashed goth movie ever

    by awepittance

    jesus christ

  • July 22, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton wishes he could pull out a Return to Oz

    by awepittance

    but he cannot, his attempts to 'revisit' old children's classics are half hearted and empty feeling. His last good film was Ed Wood, ever since he's been on a downward spiral of auto-pilot filmmaking

  • July 22, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    I guess Burton and Disney

    by Series7

    Have tottally ignored the real reimagining of Alice in Wonderland that has been done in the whole Zenoscope series...OHHHH thats right Tim Burton doesn't read comics. <P>

  • July 22, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Steve Buscemi = Greatest Mad Hatter of All Time

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    He's wonderfully, funderfully mad! Just look up the SNL skit and you'll see what I mean.<P>"Hey, I'm so mad, I wash my hands 100 times a day because they smell like my mother!"

  • July 22, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    RE: I like the Cat Head more than I like the Mad Hatter

    by Nizzuts

    I agree with you totally. I think Depp will do fine as the Mad Hatter, but the story has so much more than the Mad Hatter in it.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Public Enemies proved that even Depp can't bring in

    by lockesbrokenleg

    box office anymore without the words Pirates attached to it.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Wait a minute!!! Alice is now a hot adult babe???

    by AsimovLives

    I think i recall Alice from the book somewhat differently.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    The bad part about this

    by Series7

    Is that its going to make a shit ton of money through Hot Topic. And dumb people that think its cool and original. You know the people that think Tim Burton's first movie was Planet of the Apes.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    PUBLIC ENEMIES proved that

    by palimpsest

    they should have released the movie later in the year. It wasn't a summer picture - would have done much better in the autumn/winter.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Wrong. Star Trek was also a complete retarded dumb stupid piece of shit. Only Harry Potter was the good blockbuster this year, and only that one and nothing else.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Trek wasn't released during the summer

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It came out in Spring. And HP sucks ass.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Very very very cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by BenKenobi85

    First Hit 2010 and Must See, sure!!! It´s Tim Burton with Johnny Depp.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Who fucking cares when Star Trek was released?

    by AsimovLives

    It was shit anyway, and shit doesn't get any shittier because of seasons.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Will Burton ever do an original work again?

    by IndyCollector

    He just adapts things.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Who fucking cares when Star Trek was released?

    by AsimovLives

    It was shit anyway, and shit doesn't get any less shittier because of seasons.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    I'm tiured opf Tim Burton

    by AsimovLives

  • July 22, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Trek was released during the summer

    by Series7

    The technical first release of the summer was Wolverine. Its always the first weekend of May, or last couple of days of April depending on Saturday lands.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Don't Blame Burton for Apes

    by Reverend Toast

    That blame should go to the studio. If they let Tim do what he wanted it would of been MUCH MUCH better.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    I'm tired of Tim Burton

    by AsimovLives

    I used to wait each of his movies with great anticipation. now, i even forget he exists, and i'm only reminded when any of his new movies are released. And then i don't bother to watch them. I see him as aone trick poney who has wasted all his tricks now and is coasting on past glories. Screw him.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Anyone seen the special features for Apes?

    by Series7

    The only person who talks is this guy who was in charge of making the actors movements look like apes. How the fuck do you end up earning a living doing that? He was sooo fucking stoked about the worked he did though. It was just funny that he was the only person talking during any of the making of's. I don't think Burton was even in any of them.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Reverend Toast

    by AsimovLives

    Burton's Planet Of The Apes is exactly what he wanted it to be, and he doesn't ever get tired of saying it so in the audio comentary for the DVD. I'm sorry, but in this regard, Burton as a lot to be blamed about for the exacrable latest Planet Of The Apes movie, and not just the studio.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Star Trek was fucking awful

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Haven't said that in a while. I feel better now. <p> AVATAR footage tomorrow folks. Holy shit.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Dear Tim Burton, you are tired and old.

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Please retire, thanks.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST


    by HaterofCrap

    seriously, what the fuck happened to tim burton? and jonny depp, that fuckin douchebag. he sucks. always. ever since 21 jump street. i think he knows it too.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Personally, I'm over the Tim Burton aesthetic

    by YackBacker

    It was fresh 20 years ago. There's something tired to it all now.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Is BIG LOB in this?

    by GibsonUSA Returns

  • July 22, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton is hygenically impure.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    That is all.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Hatter look all wrong. Just fucking stupid.

    by JuanSanchez

  • July 22, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Tim Burtons movies now

    by Series7

    Look like that made all of his shit. It looks cool in still photos, but not as a movie.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST


    by twogunjames

    That looks like pure, utter, complete dogshit.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    AVATAR toys!

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • July 22, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Public Enemies

    by Reckoner

    will make $100 million domestic and probably at least $200-$250 worldwide and you're saying Depp can't bring in people without Pirates? BS

  • July 22, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    I really, really hate...

    by Blue_Demon

    that Tim Burton-type font. Hell, they even sullied the Coraline dvd cover with it, above the title.<p>I think I'll wait for the dvd release on this one.<p>Strangely enough though, I like the floating cat head. But it's not enough to get me in the theater.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Great Tim Burton movies

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Beetlejuice, Batman, Batman Returns, Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood. And that's about it. Mars Attacks was fun but the beginning of his slide into mediocrity.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Burton is hit or miss with me.

    by Photoman

    Had been disappointed with Burton's movies. Wasn't thrilled with his Willy Wonka. Didn't like Mars Attacks. Hated Planet of the Apes. Thought Corpse Bride was...meh. But then he did Sweeny Todd and WOW, THAT'S a fucking great movie right there. So I can't say I've given up on him, but don't have high hopes for this one. As always, production design will be great...but something will be lacking.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST


    by Series7

    Public Enemies cost 100 mil to make and probably a lot more to advertize....people don't make movies to break even.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Too much Johnny Depp?

    by IAmLegolas

    That's movie marketing for you. You really shouldn't judge any movie by it's trailer, they never really paint an accurate picture. --- I'll go see this, but in the end, it's just another adapation of ALICE IN WONDERLAND and there's already been about 50 billion of them.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Mars Attacks

    by Series7

    Was Burtons last cool movie, everything after has sucked. Its partly because Danny Elfman sucks now as well. His last decent score was Planet. Still got my tops card that came with the soundtrack with that one. Was there even a Top Trading card line of Planet of the apes? Do they still making trading cards?

  • July 22, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Yeah usually trailers

    by Series7

    Are better then the actual movie.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Public Enemies

    by IAmLegolas

    Who cares how much money it made? It's not like they were looking to do a sequel, and for those who liked it, it exists for them. Enjoy.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Depp MUST be in a movie every summer!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 22, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Tim Favs

    by grievenom

    Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sweeney Todd and Nightmare Before Xmas if that qualifies. Sleepy Hollow, Charlie&CF, Batman, Big Fish, Batman Returns & Mars Attacks were ok. Didn't love Bettle Juice and hated Planet of the Apes. All in all though, his stuff is pretty great. Alice looks to be in the upper echelon of his films.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Depp never was money

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    He was considered box office poison before Pirates, remember? <br> <br> Tim Burton's visuals just make me want to puke anymore. What used to be so cool is now just...different. <br> <br> I don't now why, I really can't put my finger on it and I have tried over and over again. They're just...gross in some way. <br> <br> I had lost all patience and trust in Burton these last few years, especially after that 2 hour Burton visual cumshot that was Willy Wonka. Then I saw the stills and artwork for this and thought...maybe...maybe he's got this right. After watching this trailer I feel nauseous. And I don't know why! <br> <br> Depp is great with a director who reigns him in a bit and doesn't fully trust him. You could feel in the first Pirates movie that the director didn;t know what the hell to do with him, it all felt hesitant every time he was on screen. The other two movies showcased Depp and that's why they failed. <br> <br> Burton gives Depp free reign and we get that overly, silly, slightly creepy but not in a good way version of Johnny Depp. Like a child molester. You can see that happening here, and it looks as thought Burton has made this as a stage for Depp and not for the story. <br> <br> Somebody take all of Tim Burton's money away and get his wife to start fucking someone else, bring some starving artist back into his life and let's get back to the real Tim fucking Burton. And for God's sakes, keep Johnny Depp away from him, they are both so much better now when not together. <br> <br> Wow, I'm really shocked at how this trailer has soured me and turned me off of this movie so much. By time this hits theaters, we will have seen so many trailers and commercials for it, I'll want to stick a darning needle into my piss hole to make it stop. Burton's done, he's just gone so far over the edge trying to perfect and evolve his vision that his movies are all a pastel smorgasboard of that vision and hollow outside of it. I wonder what a 20 year old Burton would have thought if he saw this trailer.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    I bet Burton could do a KILLER Apes film

    by Datascream

    it'll happen someday

  • July 22, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Mars Attacks

    by IAmLegolas

    I don't know why people keep saying this was a great movie or their favorite Tim Burton movie. I saw that in the theater and people were either sleeping or walking out. And the theater was already 1/2 empty. I really wanted to like it myself, Tim Burton was still peaking back then, but I was bored. I did watch it on DVD a few years back and I 'get it' more now, but still, it's not the greatest thing ever. And for the record, ED WOOD was Burton's greatest achievement. But it's not my favorite. That award goes to PEE WEE'S BIG ADVENTURE.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Series7 re: Little Britain movie?

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    "Computer says, 'Nooo.'" <cough!>

  • July 22, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Edward Scissorhands

    by Series7

    Was Burtons greatest achievement. Ed Wood may be his best movie, but Edward Scissorhands is his most important.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Depp is always better when acting restrained

    by AsimovLives

    His only movie that is good when he acted all wild and loonie is Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, and that's because the lunacy was the point. Otherwise, Depp is always better and good when he acts more restrained and going for subtle.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST if the "Depp as the Joker" talk wasn't as retarded alr

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    No we get this.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    i wish GLOVER was the MAD HATER

    by future help

    time machine anyone?


  • July 22, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Beetlejuice was Burton's peal

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Just a damn cool movie. Batman was great, too. He killed his career with Batman Returns.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST


    by Series7

    I know it would suck, but I still think they are funny as hell.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    I wish Crispin Glover...

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Played every part in this movie. Now THAT would be a creepy ass Alice adaption worthy of my money

  • July 22, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Merrick, you fucking cat hater!

    by DerLanghaarige

    I hope the floating cat head fucks you in the ass, so that you have finally a good reason to hate cats!

  • July 22, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Has anyone seen the last film Crispin Glover directed

    by Stabby

    with the paraplegic?

  • July 22, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    What Is it?

    by Series7

    He said that he would never release it to DVD as well. He just wanted to go around and present it. The film is made up of people with some sort of metal handicap, I forget which one. Down syndrome maybe.

  • July 22, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp will get...

    by moonlightdrive

    an Oscar for this and about time!

  • July 22, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST


    by Merrick

    Maybe one already has! Have you ever considered that?

  • July 22, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    This really did nothing for me at all.

    by Ecto-1

    Nothing in this has got me excited or interested in any way. Such an over use of CGI makes it look like a cartoon. Very poor. Man I hate CGI. Really fucking hate it.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST


    by CarlThorMark1978

    On a combo of the Panavision Genesis and a new camera called the DALSA Evolution. If this is true then I'm looking forward to seeing an HD copy of the trailer. The YouTube trailer looks beautiful.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    merrick, its the fucking cheshire cat...

    by jason baum

    its as iconic as any other memorable image in the stories. might as well off the white rabbit and alice herself, because they all visually and reasonably work together to tell carroll's story.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Burton lost his hunger long ago


    There was a time when Tim Burton seemed as though he wanted to turn the world upside down, fill the cinema screens with the kind of things you'd never see anywhere else, and genuinely amaze people.<p>Years later and he's lost whatever spark it was that made him become a director in the first place. He's become something of a parody of himself, as though he has a list of 'Burtonisms' and feels he HAS to include them in his movies, just like he HAS to have Depp in there somewhere doing something crazy or 'funny'.<p>I miss the old Burton. He really was a breath of fresh air back in the days of Edward Scissorhands.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    It is fine, Everything is Fine

    by Stabby

  • July 22, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    ummmm....where would one go

    by harper54

    to watch this???

  • July 22, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Yes, I have Merrick.

    by DerLanghaarige

    But since cats or their floating heads don't fuck people in the ass, I highly doubt that.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Video REMOVED!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Cause it was so shitty.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    GO HERE - don't know for how much longer, though

    by Kaiser Soze

  • July 22, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Still available at...

    by Alfred_Packer, but not sure for how long...

  • July 22, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST


    by CarlThorMark1978

    It was his first GREAT movie since Ed Wood. But it dissapoints me when Burton goes for generic flicks like Alice and Charlie which, despite the fantastic visuals, feels like he's on autopilot.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    It's here

    by kolchak

  • July 22, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Fuck Johnny Depp.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    This is going to fuuuuun!

    by Dolmes


  • July 22, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Copyright claim... well that's no fun

    by Avon

    I just want to erm... see the movie advert as I may yet go see it.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Nothing will ever top Sammy Davis Jr

    by smackfu

    as the caterpillar.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST


    by Dataset

    Burton is sleepwalking again. Feels like I've seen it before. This looks just like every other Alice I've ever seen, starting with the silent film. Nothing new brought to the table.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    It's just kind of sad

    by liljuniorbrown

    I've never been a fan of the whole gothic thing and that's kind of all Tim Burton is. I enjoyed some of his work but honestly, think about his work on Batman ,read the Sam Hamm script and realize that somebody fucked with it big time. Who wanted to make Prince a center piece of the film? I ain't blaming Burton but if weird ass shoe fits it probably belongs to that creepy fucker. Also, want to take bets that he lets Depp fuck his wife?

  • July 22, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

    We need an OBIT!! WAS ONE FINE BITCH!

  • July 22, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    And Crispin Glover......

    by liljuniorbrown

    He's either a mad genius or really fucking crazy.If he played a Batman villian in a Christopher Nolan directed sequel....holy shit. I have to go out on a limb and say I don't understand his work as a director. Fucking strange cat that Crispin Glover.

  • July 22, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST


    by Kaiser Soze

    he died of a stroke - guess he heard they let Michael Vick out of jail

  • July 22, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST


    by Reckoner

    I was addressing the fact that some dipshit said Depp couldn't bring in audiences without Pirates. Public Enemies hitting $200-$250 million worldwide is bringing in audiences. I wasn't talking about the profitability of the movie.

  • July 22, 2009, 5 p.m. CST


    by CarlThorMark1978

    A friend of mine was working as the staff nurse at a meat prosessing plant near by and he told me that one of the department heads explained to him that Taco Bell, which this plant supplied, used the lowest grade of meat possible. That means they put in Taco Bell what they DON'T put in hot dogs such as pig uteruses which they had a big shipment of the day my friend told me this and it was all going into the Taco Bell order.

  • July 22, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    Pffff. Its gone

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter


  • July 22, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Awesome ! Better than a Gus Van Rant post !

    by Chief Redcock

  • July 22, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    to not be negative

    by drturing

    man i get a bit tired of tim burton-ness... the fact that i know what the music is going to sound like in his films, etc... BUT this looks fucking AWESOME. Shit I've never seen before.

  • July 22, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    check here for trailer (hurry)

    by Bobba Phat

  • July 22, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    I didn't even realize the Taco Bell dog was still alive

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 22, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST


    by awardgiver

    someone post that bitch up somewhere else...

  • July 22, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Hurry! This one is still up!

    by ChubbyActionFigure NPY0LR8vuI0

  • July 22, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Looks like a Mark Ryden painting

    by mitortilla

  • July 22, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Cheshire Cat head looks like a Crite

    by Geomancer21

    The hair balls with teeth from critters

  • July 22, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    'Taco Bell meat grade' is one of the oldest urban legends,

    by jimmay

    And was debunked years ago: <p> Do you believe everything you're told, CarlThorMark1978, or just everything your friends tell you? Either way, you really should develop an interior bullshit meter.

  • July 22, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Either way, Taco Bell is trash

    by YackBacker

    I can't romanticize that shit like some of my friends. The food is just assy.

  • July 22, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Oh, Taco Bell is crap food, as is all fast food,

    by jimmay

    but it's not sub-grade or failing grade meat. It's probably the same grade of meat they put in all ground beef, which is a few notches lower than choice or prime, but safe nonetheless. As far as slaughterhouse product quality goes, read 'Fast Food Nation.' If you think its just Taco Bell that gets icky meat, you're living in a bubble of illusion.

  • July 22, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Dragonball Evolution by way of Tim Burton

    by Chris Elms

    So much of it just looks wrong and messed up. Tweedledee / dum and the Queen of Hearts? WTF!?

  • July 22, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    New Link Anyone

    by Damitron

    Can't find it up anywhere

  • July 22, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    It might be here for a bit...

    by ThePorkChopExpress

  • July 22, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    There are 2 spaces in the link

    by ThePorkChopExpress

  • July 22, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    The Taco Bell dog is gone

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    "Harry/Beaks/Merrick here...I remember watching the taco bell dog when I was younger, and having the beanie baby on my desk.." get it.

  • July 22, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    No, if Harry writes the taco bell dog obit. . .

    by jimmay

    . . it will start with, "I'm good friends with the Taco Bell dog, and he calls me at home often."

  • July 22, 2009, 5:40 p.m. CST


    by CarlThorMark1978

    It was the fucking department head. This wasn't some kids talking shit at a mall. Also, the phrase "urban legend" is used much like "conspiracy theory" and both are used WAY to much to try to dismiss information these days. Taco Bell uses meat that they wont serve to prisoners btw :)

  • July 22, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    The Taco Bell died today, tomorrow, he'll be a meal.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 22, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST

    That's the thing with conspiracy theories and urban legends

    by jimmay

    You can scarcely disprove hearsay, now can you? Of course hearsay by itself proves absolutely nothing, so I guess you really don't have to.

  • July 22, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Do I even need to see this?

    by DannyDorko666

    All his movies pretty much look the same anyway. I bet the movie I'm picturing in my head is pretty damn close to whats gonna be on the screen. Lotsa black and white candy cane striped shit I imagine.

  • July 22, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    is that Dohhny Jepp?

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    He sucks!

  • July 22, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    It's Tim Burton's style all the way

    by ThePorkChopExpress

    And I think it's a little UN-inspired to put Burton on this. But there is some brilliance in this trailer. Much more excited now... the music, particularly that little hook towards the end is great. Is it original for this or from another film, does anyone know??

  • July 22, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg


  • July 22, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Trailers Here

    by ians325

  • July 22, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST


    by TheNewDirector

    Can be found here aswell

  • July 22, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Burton is boring now but Sweeney Todd was great..

    by TheWaqman

    and seriously. It's like you noobs fail to mention Big Fish because it defeats your argument. He is extremely formulaic but he put that aside when he made that film. Otherwise I think he is fairly washed up. But still his films entertain me sometimes. Also Depp is a fucking brilliant actor. Shits all over Bale and company. Not as good as Ledger though.

  • July 22, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    If there's an issue with Burton, it's in...

    by palimpsest

    ...the way he tends to 'burtonize' everything, so it all looks the same. Individually, SLEEPY HOLLOW, BIG FISH, BATMAN RETURNS, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS et al all are fine movies, but they're so redundantly 'burtonized'. Instead of adding something to the source material to make that visual / cinematic / better, the effect is the same; it gets dumbed down to a kid-gothic feel. Twisty trees, black-haired loners as protagonists, popular culture tropes, parpy Elfman scores , staginess over cinematic space. Burton imposes his aesthetic on the material, rather than uses his abilities to make the source material (Burton tends to remake existing pop-cult properties) cinematic / fresh. That's maybe not a criticism that's unique to Burton, there's plenty of directors from Michael Bay to David Cronenberg who do similar things (and there's a sentence I didn't think I'd be typing); the issue with Burton is that he's so obvious about it. Even though the individual movies may work well (BIG FISH and SWEENEY TODD are particular favourites of mine from his recent work), they tend to blur into one over time.

  • July 22, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 22, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    orange cinema

    by Merrick

    I was kidding around. Apologies if that was not evident.

  • July 22, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    MERRICK, would you do the site and its patrons a favor?

    by D.Vader

    Give the Master and Commander sequel news, hidden away in the Robin Hood story right now, its OWN story and talkback? <p> Also, would you put up a DAMN SPOILER WARNING for the Orphan review? Just because you now have the keys to the castle doesn't mean you get to start slacking off now.

  • July 22, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Charlie & the Chocolate Factory 2

    by OGoncho

    That's all I get from this, and I don't mean that as a compliment. Shame, I was looking forward to this.

  • July 22, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Needs a new link

    by The Dum Guy

    Youtube fucking sucks (has for the last few years)

  • July 22, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    carlmikethor, bitter much?

    by Kaiser Soze

    despite what bs your "department head meat packing plant nurse friend" feeds you, FDA regulations would never allow (or miss) a chain as large as Taco Bell to serve meat of that quality. You can say it all you want, but it sounds to me like you used to work for Toxic Hell and hold a grudge and are trying to destroy their "reputation" on an IMB, but no fool with half a brain would believe your obviously false probably believe the one about McDonald's using rat meat and Jack in the Crack using horse meat, too (I bet your meat packer told you about them, too)

  • July 22, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Whoa! Who center-justified this TB?

    by ZombieHeathLedger


  • July 22, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    This looks worse than I imagined

    by Stollentroll

    Stop with the crappy CGI already! Can somebody please make a movie that still looks like fucking reality?

  • July 22, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    This looks like it will scare the hell out of kids

    by felwithe

    and I love it.

  • July 22, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    NEVER Got a Chance to See it, WTF?

    by My_IQ_is_135

    I'm going insane. I finally get a chance to see this movie, and it goes away cuz I was doing some shit work. Ahhh!

  • July 22, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    I want to bang that wrong?

    by blackmantis

    This is a Disney film!...I also wanted to bang Ariel and Pocahontas, so maybe it's just me.

  • July 22, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    In this version, Alice is 19 years old...

    by PessimusGrime

    ...and even though she shrinks out of her dress, giving at least the chance of possible nudity, or even a nipple-peek, again she is now 19 and therefore Lewis Carroll would no longer be interested.

  • July 22, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Yay for pointless copyright enforcement.

    by PornKing

    It's on the Internet you dumb fucks at Disney, give it up!

  • July 22, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Couldn't watch it at work.

    by beastie

    So I read all the comments and expected to hate it. I thought that it looked good. A little Burton, but mostly, it looked like Alice in Wonderland.

  • July 22, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Depp in Wonderland

    by PixarsSUP

    Is the Queen supposed to look that disproportionate? It's a little off-puting

  • July 22, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton applies goth eyeliner to his asshole every morning

    by ChoclateWoman

    before going to work. Fact.

  • July 22, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    This talkback is centered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by SoylentMean

    Hilarious!<P> But no, seriously fix it. It's distracting.

  • July 22, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Hey I

    by conspiracy

  • July 22, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Hey, I'd bang Ariel as well...

    by conspiracy

    Is there is grass, or in her case scales, on the field; play ball! Actually...given the age of consent laws of Victorian England,or lack there of as those were sensible, logical people; banging Alice wouldn't be a crime either.

  • July 22, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST


    by jackknifed_juggernaut

    2010 can't get here soon enough.

  • July 22, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    This works for me still...

    by ThePorkChopExpress if your still having trouble. (- spaces)

  • July 22, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy

    For some reason a message pops up that says something like "Due to copyright fucktard laws (I made that part up) this video is unavailable in your country".

  • July 22, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    I'd bang Ariel

    by D.Vader

    And Princess Jasmine and Belle too. And don't forget Pocahontas.

  • July 22, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    The Dum Guy

    by ThePorkChopExpress

    Haha, I'm in Australia and it works. Fucking idiots man. They ban it being played in the states (where it's legal) from an Aussie youtube account... why not just ask me to take the thing down.

  • July 22, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    I might apply for a job at a studio -

    by ThePorkChopExpress

    there is clearly a wide open market for a Marketing Director or Strategist who can see how things have changed and in turn, change the system itself. I'm pretty out of the know as well, but what is wrong with millions of people seeing this product??? It can only help their cause!?? Are they worried anyone outside the US can't handle some Alice in fucking Wonderland or something? They just don't get it right now.

  • July 22, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Actually looks better than what I was expecting...

    by RedJester

    Although if they make the Madhatter the star and Alice an afterthought, I'm going to be serious pissed.

  • July 22, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    When Did Burton's Imagination Get So Uninteresting?

    by mcclaneriggs

    And how can a man with clearly so much imagination fail to excite me with each subsequent movie. Mr. Burton, go back to original material so we can get excited again. Please. Because there is absolutely nothing else that needs to be said about the world of Alice in Wonderland. Even with Depp in Willy Wonka mode, this looks, feels and sounds like a big fucking snooze.

  • July 22, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    by aj00


  • July 22, 2009, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Perhaps Burton is...

    by ThePorkChopExpress

    Reaching for something he feels he hasn't achieved yet? That being said, while he clearly has a vivid imagination - doesn't mean it has to be a 'broad' one so to speak. The style in this IS Burton, but i think it's different enough - subtley. It looks like he's made these people almost slapstick, which is great for this over the top world.

  • July 22, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Trailer Not Gone Yet!

    by jamesmartin83

    If you still haven't seen it, go to to check it out before Disney pulls it!

  • July 22, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Tired of the huge Depp smile

    by walrusholder

    Why does every Burton/Depp movie have to have creepy close ups of huge odd smiles.

  • July 22, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    I think it's because Burton crams so much into the trailer

    by lockesbrokenleg

    by the time the actual movie comes out, I don't give a shit about it.

  • July 22, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Burton is so predictable

    by knowthyself

  • July 22, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    It looks like a nice, fun movie. Why bash it?

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    There's nothing wrong with the looks like a nice fun family movie.

  • July 22, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    Honestly, I wasn't looking forward to this

    by beastie

    til I saw the trailer. It seems to be removed just enough from Burton that it is a win in my book.</p><p>Also, for the record, I know on any sort of artistic level, it sucked, but I enjoyed the hell out of Sleepy Hollow. Just fun. No more. No less.

  • July 22, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Ugh... It was only a matter of time.

    by dulbeat

    We all knew Tim Burton was gonna do this eventually. I hate his "Let's take this classic story and make it ugly!" approach. It only worked for Sweeny Todd and Batman. Everything else is garbage.

  • July 22, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    The music...

    by banville

    that's just some shite slapped onto the trailer, yes? Please don't let that be from the actual soundtrack it was dreadful.<p> As for the rest it just looked kind of boring.

  • July 22, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    the fucking TACO BELL Chihuahua dies......

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    And he doesn't get a Talkback..... <p> THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT!

  • July 22, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    the fucking TACO BELL Chihuahua dies......

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    And he doesn't get a Talkback..... <p> THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT!

  • July 22, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Lemony Snicket Music

    by starlesswinter7

    To everyone who's been asking, the music from the trailer is from the Lemony Snicket film and was composed by Thomas Newman. It's actually not a bad score at all. I believe it was nominated for an Oscar, too.

  • July 22, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    I just wanted to write so my words would appear center line.

    by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon

  • July 22, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST


    by starlesswinter7

    At least the last cue you hear is from Lemony Snicket. I suspect the beginning and middle are just generic trailer music.

  • July 22, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Ok Burton, just f@#! Depp and get it over with already...

    by effector12

    Edward Scissorhands, Sleepy Hollow, Ed Wood, Corpse Bride, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Sweeney Todd. We get it, you LOVE Depp and want to choke on his nutz. There are other actors out there that don't suck as bad.

  • July 22, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Welcome to Taco Bell How my I take your order?

    by theycallmemrtibbs


  • July 22, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Danka, jamesmartin83. And for those of us in U.S.

    by The Dum Guy

    Here is the site he was referring to<br><br> (minus any spaces)<br><br>I was kinda meh'd by it, but it is just a teaser.

  • July 22, 2009, 11:16 p.m. CST

    From the mind of Tim Burton, blah, blah, blah

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Comes a movie that looks like every other movie he made

  • July 22, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Dancing Skeletons Part Eleventy Billion

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 22, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Update your fucking links please....

    by JediTray

  • July 22, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Looks good but I was expecting something darker

    by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl

    And I agree with an earlier post that Alice seems a bit old. I'm curious to who's scoring this film... aren't Burton and Elfman's professional relationship on the fritz?

  • July 22, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Wow...not feeling that at all...2 much Depp

    by The_Ritty

    I'll stick with my 80's version with Sammy Davis Jr. One of my all time greatest dvd scores, I flipped out when I found it in a 4.99 bin last year...this looks I dunno...pointless...I would have much rather had the Wes Craven one...damnmnit

  • July 22, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    CGI looks really bad

    by onezeroone

    at 0:21-0:24 [first vid], right before she hits the ground, her face looks so very Polar Express-y.

  • July 22, 2009, 11:34 p.m. CST


    by Mandon83

  • July 22, 2009, 11:56 p.m. CST

    hope this is not the finished version...

    by Titus05

    the CGI looks really awful

  • July 23, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST

    i loved burton's stuff when i was 18

    by mr. smith

    but i'm 40 now. he hasn't changed his style much in all this time. it's cutesy poo and all that, it's just not what i'm interested in anymore.

  • July 23, 2009, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Here's a divx version i put on sendspace

    by Orionsangels

  • July 23, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Another link

    by Orionsangels

  • July 23, 2009, 1:33 a.m. CST


    by Bass Ackwards

    ...I've immediately lost interest. Makes me nostalgic for the old cartoon, hell, that NBC miniseries from ten years back looks better than this.

  • July 23, 2009, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Forget everything you thought you knew about "Alice"...

    by TheFreeScreeningWhore

    Woolverton's script is completely different and completely brilliant.

  • July 23, 2009, 1:51 a.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

    and Alice was cooler than this. McCoy was thinking about Alice in Wonderland on the Shore Leave planet, and the Rabbit appeared.

  • July 23, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    This film is going to be bad

    by yodalovesyou

    Who needs to see the finished thing when you can judge it based entirely on a 95 second trailer. Sorry I forgot how thick people are these days. That's sarcasm that is. You can't tell because the Internet is a shit form of communication used mainly by cowards.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST


    by Series7

    Anyone ever seen the Czech version of Alice in Wonderland?

  • July 23, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Heads Will Roll

    by Series7

    By the Yeah Yeah Mehs, will probably be the trailer song.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Wow, I like it!

    by DrPain

    Surprised how much I dug the heck out watching that.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST

    mr. smith

    by Jawa 007

    interesting... you just made me think.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Why does everyone always bash Burton and Depp?

    by WilliamZabkaRox

    People always bash the two working together yet Burton's most critically praised movies have been with Depp. I don't recall people getting upset with Scorsesse and DeNiro working together all the time. As for Burton..he has a unique style. Look at Alice you know it's a Burton movie however it looks different from anything he has done. He has proven to be a great storyteller and able to bring some of the greatest stories to life unlike no other really can. Depp is also by far one of today's best character actors. He can pull off ANY type of role. Looking forward to Alice.

  • July 23, 2009, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Johnny Depp watches you while you take a shit

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

  • July 23, 2009, 3:38 a.m. CST


    by TakingScorpiosCalls


  • July 23, 2009, 3:40 a.m. CST

    man i just blew a rank one

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    and it be stinkin up the joint. very vaporous day

  • July 23, 2009, 3:44 a.m. CST

    always happy to oblige

    by mr. smith

    and believe me, it's a hard admission to make. i like burton well enough, it's just that i'd rather see him broaden his horizons.

  • July 23, 2009, 3:51 a.m. CST

    I'm tired of Tim Burton

    by Titus05

    will Tim Burton ever make a normal movie?...enough with the quirky films...all his films look the same visually

  • July 23, 2009, 3:55 a.m. CST

    More working links please...

    by SunTzu77

    Please post some more links to this trailer... the prodco are being Nazis.

  • July 23, 2009, 3:56 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton should go ahead and followup w/ Beauty & the Beast.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    That'd be pretty cool.

  • July 23, 2009, 4 a.m. CST

    What's odd is the music cue at the end

    by Dingbatty

    sounds almost like the Oompa Loompa song from the Gene Wilder version.

  • July 23, 2009, 4:12 a.m. CST


    by Moshi

    I like the floaty head cat. I also like the CG. CG doesn't have to be photo real, here it has a stylized look, it's perfect for this film.

  • July 23, 2009, 4:57 a.m. CST

    You may not like Burton's visual style,

    by MorganLeafy

    at least he has one. That can’t be said of 95% of the incestuous blockbuster directors today. I know which version of Batman I prefer.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:02 a.m. CST

    Thnx for the divx link Orionsangels

    by slayme

    stupit disney peepoles thinkin dey can git off whatz been puts on

  • July 23, 2009, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Disney, you idiots.

    by Mr Gorilla

    Either release the trailer and make it available, or don't release it. But DON'T play this ridiculous game of cat and mouse. You have made me want to hate this movie already.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:28 a.m. CST

    And I call bullshit on Burton.

    by Mr Gorilla

    People go on and on about his visual style. But is it REALLY all that? For me, absolutely not. His style is a misdirection, intended to make the viewer ignore the fact that his films are devoid of content. There are endless better visual stylists, but their visual skills aren't praised because their other skills as filmmakers are even stronger. Examples? GUILLERMO DEL TORO. Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy II are the kinds of films Burton could only make in his dreams. And visually every bit as gorgeous as anything he has produced. ALFONSO CUARON. Y to Mama Tembien, Harry P and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Children of Men. Each of them with totally jaw-dropping visuals, whether it's in a 'real' or 'fantasy' world. And those Shrieking Shack scenes in Potter as as German Expressionist as anything in Burton. JEUNET & CARO. Delicatessen and The City of Lost Children. Check them out. They're like Tim Burton but, uh, better. Oh, and you know what all of these guys have in common? They would never, ever, do anything as idiotic as remaking a classic like PLANET OF THE APES.

  • July 23, 2009, 6:05 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla, I couldn’t disagree more

    by MorganLeafy

    I like Cuaron so I won’t argue about him, but the other ones? Please?! That’s exactly why I like Burton, he can mix style AND substance. Let’s go through your list: Del Toro, now that’s an overrated director if ever there is one. Pan’s Labyrinth was all style and no substance. If you’re going to set-up a fantasy world why not use it to the maximum, he only used it rather clumsily (it felt like 2 separate movies) to eventually give us a contrived war movie. Jeunet’s Amelie and his Big Fish were also comparable but where Amelie was all sugar-coated whimsyness, Big Fish had a beating heart. So what Burton made an average remake, there’s always the original. Jeunet helped to kill the Alien franchise!

  • July 23, 2009, 6:25 a.m. CST


    by We_like_it_VERY_MUCH

    That was even more lazy than I could have possibly imagined... I mean, really, when you can predict EXACTLY what a directors version of a classic story is going to be before seeing a single frame it's time to set that director out to pasture... Give Burton 10 million bucks and make him make one more bad ass original film.. if he fails well then so long Timmy. It's been real. <P> Seriously, this looks fucking BOOOOOOORING.

  • July 23, 2009, 6:31 a.m. CST


    by We_like_it_VERY_MUCH

    Listen you art school dropouts, Burton hasn't been "brilliant", as you're so fucking fond of saying every time he shows you a twisty tree, since Pee Wee and Beetlejuice. Grow the fuck up.

  • July 23, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST


    by angranoid

    You're right this looks really BOOOOOORRRRING... And I am dead inside. It's Alice In Fucking Wonderland for god sake. A book with a highly detailed world that's been visualised countless times. What the fuck do you think the film's going to look like? It's going to look like Alice In Wonderland you twat! If Burton had completely re-imagined the thing and brought a new "vision" you can bet your whiney ass you'd have complained about him straying too far from the book. What a loud of bollocks.

  • July 23, 2009, 7:46 a.m. CST

    For better or worse, Burton is an artist

    by WT

    Now, I personally love his work because it's distinctive, with a hand made feel that comes from an animator (a bit like Terry Gilliam). However, like any artist, if you don't like the style you won't enjoy it. Fair enough. For me though, I love the way he works and what he produces. Sweeney Todd was brilliant and a fantastic musical, Chocolate Factory was pleasing. Even with Apes, his most studio shackled film, he still produced a weird ending that got everyone talking, again for better or worse.

  • July 23, 2009, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Actually this trailer made me like the movie

    by The Chosen

    When i heard Depp was going to be the Mad Hatter i just thought that he'd mimmic Sparrow, or Ichabod Crane, or GodForbid Willy Wonka. The tiny acting i saw on the trailer, before it was ripped away from the internet, showed that he probably won't do any of them, maybe he's going on a different crazy direction. That's the vibe i got.

  • July 23, 2009, 7:54 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    I bet you are one of those who thinks that Jar Jar Abrams' Star Trek is a brillant movie. And that Michael Bay Denis' The Island is intelligent SF.

  • July 23, 2009, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Taco Bells, Pizza Hut, McDonals, KFC and Burger King are all shi

    by AsimovLives

    Really really very fucking terrible shit. I pity (in sympathy) for all americans who only know food from those mega-chains. You don't know what you are losing.

  • July 23, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Taco Bells, Pizza Hut, McDonals, KFC, Burger King, are all shit

    by AsimovLives

  • July 23, 2009, 7:59 a.m. CST

    I'm more interested about Marylin Manson's Alice movie

    by AsimovLives

    It's called "Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll", and it really looks like he's pulling a real new twist and vision into the Lewis Carroll classic. Instead of Tim Burton's movie, which is just another repetition of the saem old thing with his so-called "style" as sallad dressing. I call bullshit on the Tim Burton movie. I'm dead tired of this guy, i really am.

  • July 23, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST


    by jamesmartin83

  • July 23, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Marylin Manson's Alice movie haha

    by Talkbacker with no name

    now that's funny. What's next? Rob Zombie's Wind in the Willows?

  • July 23, 2009, 8:28 a.m. CST


    by MorganLeafy

  • July 23, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Oop, try that again. AsimovLives

    by MorganLeafy

    now you're being a bit arrogant, aren't you. If you have ever read my posts you would know I hate Michael Bay. I thought Star Trek was a slightly above average blockbuster. So certainly didn't hate it, but also didn't love it. What did I do to make you think that I love Michael Bay? More importantly, why should I care about the opinion of someone who is interested in anything Marilyn Manson does? Manson, the biggest poseur in the music business, who can only shock nuns who lived on Antarctica for 10 years and who is basically the Puff Daddy of metal since he can only recycle 80’s hits.

  • July 23, 2009, 8:47 a.m. CST

    wow way to not have links up

    by Killsomethin

    srsly wtf

  • July 23, 2009, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Bunch of nitpicky dildos

    by Shpadoinkle

    There's not enough weirdness in mainstream cinema anymore. Tim Burton + Alice In Wonderland = Match Made In Heaven. There are no big directors (Gilliam aside) who could do this kind of tale as much justice. That Burton's imagination has been so consistent with his cinematic eye is laudable. He's been the most interesting guy in Hollywood for years now, and will continue to be until his death. Although it's obviously easier to bitch than praise these days, such is the cynical nature of sites like these for people who have nothing else to live for but movies and bitching about movies that don't match their vision. If you're not being paid for your vision then your vision is about as useful as a fart in a spacesuit.

  • July 23, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Hey Morgan Leafy

    by Mr Gorilla

    (I love that character. A Good Man In Africa, no?) Always nice to chat to a fellow-hater of films by Michael Bay. Just to say - I mentioned Jeunet and Caro as a double act. But not on their own. I hate Amelie and I hate Alien Resurrection. But Delicatessen was rather delicious, although admittedly frivolous. Now, as to Del Toro - I'll definitely admit that films like Blade 2 didn't have much substance. But I was captivated by The Devil's Backbone, and Pan's Labyrinth. As well as being about 'growing up' (especially growing from a girl to a woman), it seemed to me to be interrogating the whole idea of fantasy - what is fantasy for? Do her fantasies (presuming that's what they are) exist because her reality is so terrible, she needs to escape from it? I think so - but what she finds is that fantasy is a dangerous place too, requiring just as much courage and sacrifice. Which, again, makes one interrogate what exactly fantasy is for - why do we conjure up these fantasies? (Urgh, OK, I'm just babbling on now. Guys? Wanna back me up? Guys...?)

  • July 23, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST


    by Mr Gorilla

    I hate loads of Gilliam too. Don't get me wrong, I love BRAZIL, and I think that 12 MONKEYS is genius, a really wonderful, moving film. But THE BROTHERS GRIMM? You serious? And what he was planning to do to DON QUIXOTE would have Cervantes turning in his grave. Ah, now we are on to Grave Turning. Burton has already tried to make Roald Dahl turn in his grave. Now it's Lewis Carroll's turn. Have you noticed how Burton is lauded as a visionary, but much of the time he's just taking OTHER people's visions and messing them up. You want a visionary? Real PARADISE LOST. Look at some Caravaggio...

  • July 23, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Mr. Gorilla

    by MorganLeafy

    Nice to see people can still appreciate a good book once in a while. I can see what Del Toro was trying to do with Pan’s Labyrinth. He was using a strong visual, escapist world to contrast with the harsh reality of war. Normally I really like movies that let the images do the talking (like Burton does-sometimes). However in the case of Pan’s Labyrinth I don’t believe Del Toro entirely succeeded in his upset. The transition between the two worlds felt too big and the movie didn’t spent enough time in the dream world to really make an impact. So all in all, the result was a bit of a conventional movie about the horrors of war.

  • July 23, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Youv'e just experienced AssimovLives trademark STAR TREK/Michael Bay cutdown that he reserves for anyone that appears to go against his pompous uber-elite tastes. There is no being "a bit arrogant" with him. He swims in arrogance.<P>I'm sure his reply to this post will be epic in its arrogance as well.

  • July 23, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Taco Bell

    by Series7

    Man first they lose Billy Mays, now they lose their biggest hit. I wouldn't want to be the next Taco Bell spokes person.

  • July 23, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by Shpadoinkle

    Yeah I know I should be aiming higher than Burton - Frank Zappa and Andrei Tarkovksky are my favourite 'visionaries' so to speak. I just don't think he deserves the bad rap he gets while people like Michael Bay still breathe. His vision of Sondheim's Sweeney Todd was quite spectacular, which leads me to believe he's not totally bereft of his peculaiar yet palatable gothic imagination just yet. His body of work is consistent enough that he doesn't deserve all the vitriol...same as Gilliam's. Everyone makes mistakes, just some mistakes are in public eye and then whatever good they've done is diminished via short sighted hyperbole.

  • July 23, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    I have absolutely no idea who the target audience is

    by Nem_Wan

    This movie is going to bomb. After seeing that trailer I have no idea if this film is meant for kids, adults, or mental patients. It looks like a jumbled mess, starting with Alice being an adult. Remember Diana Ross in The Wiz?

  • July 23, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    I think Burton redeemed himself from Planet of the Apes

    by Stabby

    with Sweeney Todd. Hopefully, Alice will redeem him for Willy Wonka.

  • July 23, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    have you guys heard of "Mythic Journeys"

    by animas

    with Mark Hamil and Lance Henriksen and should be out this year.

  • July 23, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST


    by angranoid

    What the fuck are you talking about? Diana Ross was in her 30's when she did the Wiz. This girl is 17, hardly an adult. And how is this a jumbled mess? Clarify. Make a point. At the very least make sense.

  • July 23, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I am life long burton fan

    by emeraldboy

    recently his output has been hit and miss. I hated Sweeney todd. I found the movie to be a grinding experience and it ground me down. I mean it looked great. IT was such a slog of a movie. eventually I gave up watching.

  • July 23, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    I think they got the Mad Hatter all wrong

    by Stabby

    Should be older with white hair. And as another talkbacker mentioned he should arrogant and aristocratic. I blame Burton, not Depp. Depp can do pretty much whatever you ask him to. To anyone who thinks I'm nitpicking, I think everything else looks pretty accurate to the source material.

  • July 23, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST


    by Shpadoinkle

    Out of interest - you a Droog? As in Drogheda. I really enjoyed Sweeney Todd...thought the dodgy singing was alleviated by the story, acting and visuals. I don't care if they can't sing...they look like they care.

  • July 23, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST


    by Stabby

    Have you ever tried watching one of the broadcasts of the play or another adaptation. There's one with Ben Kingsley. I think you would dislike them even more. Burton did his best to jazz up the source material.

  • July 23, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Burtons last good film was Sleepy Hollow.

    by ganymede3010

    After that brilliant movie, (3 Sith Lords in one Movie) his films have been undigested shit.

  • July 23, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST


    by Morte_Bea_Arthur

    Step in a bear trap much? I consider myself a Burton fan, but I wasn't wild about Apes and Charlie. They felt like work-for-hire, which they were. I kind of get the same vibe off of this trailer, but I won't judge until I've seen the movie. Anyone who says you can always judge a movie by the trailer is WRONG. You might get it right sometimes, but not 100%.

  • July 23, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    I am a dubliner

    by emeraldboy

    and I am live in dun laoghaire. The gate theatre production has been hailed the best production ever. even stephen sondheim said so and that was 2008. The movie looked great.

  • July 23, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    My top three Burton films are

    by emeraldboy

    Ed wood Sleepy hollow Edward Scissorhands

  • July 23, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST


    by grievenom

    Go Fuck Yourself We_like_it_VERY_MUCH

  • July 23, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Goopd to know you have justified hate for Michael Bay Denis. That's the first step unto the path of wisdom. However, your path is blocked by your high opinion of Jar Jar Abram's Star Trek. For it's true that any other opinion about that piece of shit movie higher then thinking it's a piece of shit movie is to be an over-appreciative and over-hyped opinion of that piece of shit movie.<br><br>As for arrogance, welcome to AICN, you will need it here.

  • July 23, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Behold Mr. Nice Gaius: My Own Personal Stalker

    by AsimovLives

    The retard keeps on proving to the world how retard he is. abnd he does nothing, and i means NOTHING ELSE in here but to try to turn people again me. For reazons only a retarded like him can know. All i know is that if one gets under the skin of a retard like Mr. Nice Gaius, then one must be doing something very right.

  • July 23, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    See what I mean?<P>:^)

  • July 23, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    I love his style but lately it jus tseems liek he's making the same damn movie over and over. I'll stil lsee this though.

  • July 23, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    How about a few more typos?

    by HoboCode


  • July 23, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST


    by WT

    We none of us perfect (have that with the bloody library computer.) I love it when people say "If you don't agree with me, you're a..." It is possible to listen to both sides and form your own opinion.

  • July 23, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST


    by AmericanWerewolf


  • July 23, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Burton was born to make this.

    by AmericanWerewolf

    I've been a fan for ages, but I haven't seen one of his movies in the theater since Apes. This could change that.

  • July 23, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    So, Burton "Burtonizes" his movies?

    by TheBatDad

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You fucking retard. I expect the typical, pointless and transgressive "STOP THE CGI" whines. But this criticism is mind-bogglng.What is he supposed to do?? Ang Leeize them? Kubrickize them? What the fuck is your point? He's hired for his vision and does it, good or bad. He's done different things (APES, garbage, ED WOOD & BIG FISH). I agree his string of remakes/adaptations is getting ridiculous but Ive liked them all. I always hated Gene Wilders crappy WONKA movie. And SLEEPY HOLLOW is my favorite Burton. Of course, he Burtonized it. But only a moron would dislike it for that reason.

  • July 23, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST


    by TheBatDad

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    by TheBatDad

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    by TheBatDad

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    by TheBatDad

  • July 23, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST


    by Series7

    Remeber when she had that short hair? Was not a fan of that. She really has gotten to the point with the movies she driects, she just Belladonaizes herself all the time now.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Damn son

    by JoeSixPack

    Looks insane!!!

  • July 23, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton

    by Wrath4771

    Well color me square, but I happen to dig Burton movies. Ed Wood, Pee Wee's Big Adventure, his two Batman movies, Bettlejuice, A Nightmare Before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands and Sleepy Hollow are all very fine movies. Yes, most of those movies are at the beginning, but I think we've all been spoiled by a guy who came out of the gate smacking home runs. I'll give Alice a shot. It may be a typical looking Burton movie, but I'd rather see that than most of the garbage that has come out this year.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    My fave film so far this year? Coraline

    by WT

    By Henry Selick aka the director of Nightmare Before Christmas. Most films this year have been at best very good or solid. The real deal can't come soon enough.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Right on, TheBatDad!

    by AmericanWerewolf

    Like it or not, Burton has a his own distinct style, which is more than I can say for some directors. He's reliable in that way- when I see a movie has been made by Tin Burton, I know at the very least it's going to be visually interesting. Hating on the man because he has a unique style is absurd. What should he do, direct somber, tedious Oscar-bait?

  • July 23, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    tedious Oscar-bait

    by Series7

    I'd rather see him do that then a Hot Topic promotion. I mean look at Ed Wood.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    It will be next years Watchmen

    by lockesbrokenleg

    A dull, over plotted 3 hour mess.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST


    by Stabby

    at least it won't be next year's Bayformers, 3 hour POS.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Good point.

    by AmericanWerewolf

    And I'm not saying Burton can't do "serious", real life-based stuff. Sometimes, reality's pretty bizarre, right? But he just excels at pure escapist entertainment. When he's not lost in his own visuals and delirious happenings, Burton is a fine storyteller. I think his biggest obstacle has always been balancing whimsy and satire. Sleepy Hollow and Sweeney Todd are personal favorites of mine. Hopefully, Alice will be ABOUT something, not just a series of weird images.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by WT

    I don't think you can shoehorn Sin City visuals into this one, and this definitely has a better calibre of actor involved. As for Ed Wood, it was a passion project. Those films tend not be equalled (eg Michael Mann with Heat)

  • July 23, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Trailer is still up at

    by BigTimeBoxOffice

  • July 23, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    how the hell did Star Trek get brought up?

    by mr. smith

    oh, right.

  • July 23, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    I cringed at depp's line in this trailer

    by animas

    he is still in pirate mode so this looks terrible

  • July 23, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    It's not based on the book!!

    by Dapper Swindler

    It's like a sequel story. 60% of all talkback posts are invalid.

  • July 23, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp just showed up at comic con

    by lockesbrokenleg

    unannounced at the Disney panel.

  • July 23, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    was better than "Up". And the academy will never admit it because they refuse to remove Pixar's cock from their mouths.

  • July 23, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Trailer is still up at

    by ceediddy

    And I agree...the Depp line was a bit much. Still looks visually amazing though!

  • July 23, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Voice casting

    by ProfGriffin

    And SIR Christopher Lee as the voice of the jabberwock(y). I kidd you not. NOT Lewis Caroll, but heck, I Love it.

  • July 23, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    If both sides make valid points they can give pretty good reasons in support, absolutly.

  • July 23, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Big Fish was the movie that made me hate Tim Burton

    by AsimovLives

    Big Fish finally did it for me. One of the worst piece of bad pastiche i ever seen of burton's movie, made worst that it was done by Burton himself. Complete nonsense idioticy. and made even worst by the stupid final message of the movie (bnetter to live in illusion then reality). Bullshit! It's one thing to point out the importanc eof excapism, it's another to say it's better to only embrace that and show a fig to reality. Fuck that bullshit. Even the master of "fantasy is cool and better then reality" advocate that is Terry Gilliam always points out the fallacies that is living by a fantasy world, in such movies as Brazil, The Fisher King and the extremely underrated (by Jar Jar Abram's ass kissers and dick suckers pseudo-geeks) Tideland.<br><br>Fuck Big Fish, fuck any movie Burton made since and including Planet Of The Apes, and fuck tim burton. To say he has proved a disapointment is the second biggest understatment of the year (the first being Jar Jar Abram's Star Trek is a very bad movie). Tim Burton, give up directing, please.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Nobody knows what the fuck you're babbling on about, but the message of Big Fish wasn't that fantasy was somehow "better" than reality.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    The hell it wasn't. And you might correct your statment above to "I don't know what the fuck you're babbling on about", emphasis on YOU ALONE. It's easy to understand what i'm saying, just read the english words structured into sentenses. Or maybe you would prefer i would had writen in portuguese? I can do both.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Read the English words? You mean words like "Sentenses" and "idioticy"? No thanks. <p> And no, it wasn't. You've shown a great ability to misinterpret nearly every element of a film. I suggest you give it up.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Yes, really.<br><br>And i don't need you to learn how to interpret a movie, i can do that very, very well on my own, thank you very much.<br><br>And if you are one of those who were fooled by Jar Jar Abram's Star Trek (or Tim Burton's Big Fish for that matter) and you think it's a good movie, then you would be the last person i would learn anything from. Drinking the kool-aid is not my thing.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    I can write portuguese!!!!!

    by crack2752

    Congrats. Your 6 foot tall golden douchebag award will be arriving in the mail. Remember, signatures are required.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    I dropped out of the Burton train after Mars Attacks

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Never again.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna resist the urge...

    by AmericanWerewolf

    To ask what the fuck Star Trek has to do with anything. I think it's a great movie. And I fuckin' hate Kool-Aid. But I acknowledge some people may enjoy it and I don't look down on them.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Jar Jar Abrams

    by crack2752

    Cute. How can you get fooled into liking a movie? Why does it matter to you so much if someone likes Star Trek dude? You're acting like someone punched your grandmother over a god damn space movie. Same for Big Fish, which I liked. I don't understand why you can't just accept people liking other things than you like. Hating everything and talking shit doesn't make you look smarter, it just makes you look like a prick.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    "i can do that very, very well on my own"

    by kolchak

    No. No you can't. You're the guy who thought "Hook" wasn't a children's film.

  • July 23, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    And I dunno why the fuck it matters

    by kolchak

    But I'm not a science fiction person. So I didn't care much for Star Trek. <p> But I DO know that it's nothing like Big Fish. Which, again, comes back to my point that nobody knows what the fuck you're getting at.

  • July 23, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    I dropped off the Burton train after Ed Wood

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Ed Wood is one of the greatest, i also like the two Batmans and think they fucking take a big sloppy deuce over Limeyman Begins and The Limey Knight.

  • July 23, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Amen, crack.

    by AmericanWerewolf

    This guy's got an issue. I thought the original show and movies were okay, but I'm not what you'd call a Trekker. Abrams' film just made me give a hoot about Star Trek! At no time did I feel like I was being indocrinated into some cult. Uh, usually you just like something cuz you like it, it tickles your fancy. Not because everyone else likes it. I like the fiction of Robert E. Howard, graphic novels and horror movies. Whilst I'm aware that their are others like me, I don't feel like I'm part of some big club. Or maybe Abrams WANTS me to think that... Burton has had some misfires, some projects that look like self-indulgent whims. Edward Scissorhands is not the beloved classic to me that it is to some, and I didn't go apeshit over Big Fish the way some critics did. It's comforting to know that in that way, Burton is just like all other directors.

  • July 23, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    If it deserves a second thought on any basis it'd be how stop motion is becoming a forgotten art. <p> It may lack in story, but I'll pop in that blu ray any day of the week to see the gorgeous imagery.

  • July 24, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Tweedle Dee & Dum = Burton's Penguin x 2

    by finky089

    Is it me, or do they look like DeVito in Batman Returns?

  • July 24, 2009, 6:59 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Remember, the drugs are bad for you.

  • July 24, 2009, 7:05 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    For fuck's sakes, you only see what you want, and nothing else, do you?<br><br>What i said, and i pointed that out many, many times to the point of unambiguosity, is that Hook is a children mvoie made from THE POINT OF VIEW OF ADULTS. Which, for me, it's a bit antithetical to the very own nature of a children's story. So, i then gave an example of a Peter Pan movie which does the job right, in presenting a children's story from the point of view of the children, the 2003's Peter Pan movie. I repeated this point over and over, to the point it was beyond doubt what i ment. and yet, you blocked all that and what you only got was your misguided and malinformed idea of what i wrote about it? The problem is with you, not mine, friend. If i didn't knew better, i would say that you are DELIBERATLY sticking up to a misinterpretation. But i chose not to think about that about you, i prefer to see you in a better light then what you are portaiting yourself in your posts.

  • July 24, 2009, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Jar Jar's Star Trek is the litmus test

    by AsimovLives

    It matters a lot what people think of that movie. It proves who are the kool-aid drinkers and who are not. It matters to see what people can accept, blindly, and against all that is reasonable. It matters if some people accept so well and blisdnly a movie which is one of the most misguided, stupid, dumb, badly made movie in th last 10 years, at least. It matters if people accept without question and go wioth the flow a movie which has one major problem in each of it's minute of screentime, a movie which has enough problems per minute that it would had killed any other different movie, but because it's Jar Jar Abrams' Star Trek, the piece of shit of the year which is cool to like, people ar eating all that up without questioning, like robots. So, yeah, it's very important for me to see where one stands on the Jar Jar Abrams' moronic brain-dead, stupid incompetent piece of shit Star Trek movie. It matters.

  • July 24, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    You know how to have your interest in Star Trek picked up again? By watching the original shows. Good piece of entertaiment which put together both brain and fun, without one sacrificing the other. that's how you do it. and not like Jar Jar Abrams did, where the completly sacrificed intelligence for the sake of the most retarted type of "fun" i have seen outside of a Micheal Bay Denis' Transformers movie. Jar Jar Abrams' Star Trek is so bad, that M. Bay Denis' The Island looks smart and good in comparision, and The Island is one of the worst piece of shit i ever seen in my life.

  • July 24, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    And i don't care for Tuim Burton's Alice

    by AsimovLives

    And i don't care for any movie that Burton will make in the future. I haven't seen his last 2 movies, and i'm all the better for that. Fuck him.

  • July 24, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    How can you not care for a movie that isn't out yet?

    by crack2752

    The drugs are bad for me? Hilarious. Clearly you thought I was serious when I said calling Abrams Jar Jar was cute. It was the first time I read it, it isn't when you post it 3 times per ramble. You beat jokes to death worse than mid 1990's SNL skits. Why are you taking it so personal that someone like a movie that you had nothing to do with? And you defend movies like Brazil when Terry Gilliam wouldn't cross the street to meet you because you're a fucking prick. You are such an insulated bitter hateful little person. I just tried to make a point that people like other things than you and its ok. The whole purpose of life is to experience as much as you can, read all the books you can, watch movies, go everywhere you can. But nope, not for you, you're too happy sitting here bagging Tim Burton movies (which is totally cool and totally original. You have to be the first person to make it known you don't like Tim Burton) . "I haven't seen his last two movies, and i'm all the better for that" Yeah totally. Its much better to sit here and talk shit when you've never done anything. Its so much cooler to hide behind your screen name and take shots because you can't put yourself out there and make something. Fuck off, and capitalize your I's, not doing so makes you look lazy and like a fucking idiot.