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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with my thoughts on the new HARRY POTTER flick. David Yates returns, but changes up his visual style dramatically from THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX, with the newest Potter installment which is the darkest entry to the series yet and arguably the best since AZKABAN, which as far as I’m concerned is still the high water mark of the series. That said, it’s not flawless. I’ll never have the opinion of someone experiencing these stories for the first time as they unravel up on the silver screen and that’s both a blessing a curse. It’s a curse because there’s always going to be something that I feel is crucial that just can not be included in a 2 ½ hour film and I’ll never be able to see one of these movies without feeling like a nitpicker afterwards. The blessing is, of course, that the movie experience is enriched by the books, things glimpsed or left unsaid carry more weight because I know the full story. Technically it’s one of the best crafted of all the films, with an amazing cold, grey, nearly black and white at times, visual style and some of the creepiest imagery from any of the films. The Death Mark formed in the clouds can justifiably strike fear into the enemies of the Death Eaters, the agents of Voldemort. And all the kids… well, I guess now I can’t really call them kids anymore, can I? Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson and Rupert Grint are so relaxed in the roles that there’s an easiness to their friendship that can only be earned by growing up together, which fits these characters perfectly. These films are an amazing achievement in that respect. Forgetting the technical greatness, the fact that Warner Bros had the faith to set upon this road with only half the books of the series finished, that Chris Columbus had the vision to cast the three perfect unknowns for the leads (and his perfect casting of the staff… can you imagine anybody else playing Snape after seeing Rickman in the role?) and that we’re seeing these people grow up in front of our eyes. I was on the Reject Radio Podcast Sunday night (click here if you wish to subject yourself to my stuttering gibberishand Cole Abaius and I were talking about just how remarkable and unprecedented this is and just how the movie gods seem to be watching over this series. Alfonso Cuaron came in at just the right time, with the right book of the series and elevated it out from kiddie fare and Yates is proving to be a good judge at finding that balance between real and fantasy. The stakes are real in this film and that’s felt immediately as the Death Eaters attack London on their kidnapping rampage. The darkness is growing, but screenwriter Steve Kloves still finds ways to inject humor through the characters. One of the best examples is the new teacher Horace Slughorn played with brilliant timing by Jim Broadbent. Slughorn’s a complicated character… all the more complex in that on the surface he’s easy to peg. He’s a man who forges his own identity by the famous, wealthy and powerful that he associates with. In short, a very superficial man. At least that’s the front. He’s goofy, but there’s a deep emotional core to this man and the scene where Harry finally gets what he’s after from the professor is one of the best scenes in the whole series, emotionally speaking. It really resonates with me hours after seeing it. If nothing else, this film succeeds in cementing the friendship between Hermione, Ron and Harry… and the budding love that could drive them apart or bond them even closer together. Like I said above, it’s a camaraderie that can only be earned by years of real, deep friendship and one of the fringe benefits of how this series is being approached by the studio. I think HALF-BLOOD PRINCE is going to be looked back upon in the grand scheme of the Potter films as the tonal bridge to the 7th (and 8th, I guess) horrifically intense and dark final entries. For those who haven’t read the final book… you have no idea what you’re in for. You think you know dark after seeing this movie, but you don’t. Not yet you don’t. And therein lies some of my problems with this film. I feel the big dark finale wasn’t handled as well as it could have been. Yes, I very much miss the big Death Eater fight from the book, which makes so much more sense and opens up the scope of this particular story. As it stands now, the bad guys feel slight, none of them doing anything that couldn’t have been done without the intricate plan to invade Hogwarts. In the book there’s a big battle between the Aurors, The Order of the Phoenix and the Death Eaters and considering there’s precious little action in the film it could have been exactly what was missing for me after the absolutely fantastic and perfectly realized cave sequence. I’ve heard two different stories… one, that Yates shot the battle stuff and cut it, and the other being that he didn’t. I hope the truth rests in the former because I’d love to see them have real LOTResque Extended Editions of these movies that can fill in a lot of the character stuff and nuance that has to be chopped to make these stories even fit into the 2 ½ hour long movies. Like the entire Half-Blood Prince storyline, which is indeed in this film… it kinda has to be given the title, right? But what they don’t show is just how much Harry hero worships the Half-Blood Prince. I was discussing this with my Pothead friends (that’s Potter fans, not weed smokers) Kraken and his wife after the movie and we all felt it diminishes the impact of the reveal not having Harry holding up this unknown person, previous owner of a beat-up potions book to the same degree almost as he does Dumbledore. As it stands in the movie it’s pretty painfully obvious who the Half-Blood Prince is anyway and when the reveal happens I was left with “Yeah, so?” feeling. That should have been the upper-cut that follows the powerhouse right hand we all just experienced. And speaking of Extended Editions… I just want more time with these characters. I want to see more of Bonnie Wright’s Ginny Weasely falling in love with Harry. I want more badass Fenrir Greyback being a scary asshole. I want to see more development of Tonks and Remus as husband and wife. I want more Looney Lovegood. I want more of the twins and their awesome magic jokeshop! And for Christ’s sake, I want more Alan Rickman. He’s the one I always feel cheated out of losing screentime for. The dude is so great in the role that his time onscreen is never enough. I’m hoping that with the decision to break the 7th book up into two movies that we actually retain a lot of that stuff in the final films. I’d love to see the Battle of Hogwarts last for 50-60 minutes. Lord knows there’s enough character work and action that goes on in the book to fill that time and it’d make for the perfect payoff to 7 movies worth of build-up. I honestly have no complaints with the movie until Harry and Dumbledore return to Hogwarts from their adventure in the cave. It just feels the movie is building to a point, which could have been my own expectation from knowing the ending of the book, that it never achieves. The staging of the big, climactic emotional scene is different from the book… not worse… in fact, I think they add something to it by giving Harry a little more freedom of choice, but the pacing felt wrong, choppy even. There’s also the decision to not end on the funeral as the book does, which I don’t understand at all. There is a great scene in its place that is beautifully done (the removal of the Dark Mark scene), but I still am not convinced it was a good idea to abandon the funeral altogether. The review might read as mixed, but I’m really not mixed. Like I said upfront… as a fan of the books I can’t help but get nitpicky, play armchair director, with these films. I’ve liked ALL the films and this one I feel is just under PRISONER OF AZKABAN, the high point in the series so far. Half-Blood Prince will make a bazigillion dollars and deserves every penny of it. There’s more heart, adventure, magic and excitement in this film than any other big summer tentpole since UP. Now I gotta get to packing. New York City here I come… gonna see God of Carnage on Broadway and go with my moms to see Paul McCartney play Citi Field, a historic return to the grounds of Shea Stadium. Gonna be a fun trip that gives me only one 24 hour period of turnaround time before I’m headed down to San Diego for Comic-Con. Gonna be a crazy two weeks. Fingers crossed I survive it. -Quint Follow Me On Twitter

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  • July 14, 2009, 5:38 a.m. CST


    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Can nto wait for this

  • July 14, 2009, 5:39 a.m. CST

    And first, bitches!!!!!!!!!!1

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    This one goes out to my hommies from node 39976 <p> Word, shnizzle!

  • July 14, 2009, 5:40 a.m. CST

    I just realized something

    by Continentalop

    All the Harry Potter actors are British. Not one damn American. Yet when we shoot an iconic American character like Batman we have half the cast be British actors (or Australians). <p> Fuck this double-standard. Either they put an American in the last fucking Harry Potter movie or else every damn British actor or directors are no longer getting any big blockbuster roles.

  • July 14, 2009, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Ahem! Now about the article

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    This was always my least favourite book, but the reviews it has been getting are great. I will be seeing this in a couple of days <p>Personally, Im just waiting for book 7. Bring on The Battle of Hogwarts. If that shit is half as exciting as in the book, it will be some serious cinema there. "Get of her, you bitch!" Hell yeah :)

  • July 14, 2009, 5:44 a.m. CST

    And what no funeral?

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    wow, I would have thought that was essential. Hmmmm

  • July 14, 2009, 5:49 a.m. CST

    The movies seem new to me, read the books too long ago

    by DoctorZoidberg

    When I watch the latest installments, I'm like, ohhh I remember this part. Should be fun!

  • July 14, 2009, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Harry Potter = Product of a Feeble Female Mind

    by --- Emperor ---

    Only somebody with a vagina could have conjured up something as pathetic as this. If I have to explain why the Harry Potter saga is pathetic, then I don't wish to talk to you. The bottom line is, it's the king of mediocrity, and in this day and age, mediocrity is king.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:03 a.m. CST

    If I have to ask you why you think HP is pathetic...

    by DerLanghaarige means that you don't know it by yourself, because otherwise you would have already told us.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:10 a.m. CST

    For Langhaarige

    by --- Emperor ---

    You're an idiot.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Not bothering with the books


    I'm living the dream on-screen! Yeeha! Who knows what's coming next? Not me! All I know is that Snape rapes Dumbledore at the end of this one (thanks to the TBer who told me that).<p>I don't care. When the wizard raping occurs, I'll simply close my eyes and go to my happy place.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:11 a.m. CST

    Emperor - Are your novels better?


    Let us know!

  • July 14, 2009, 6:12 a.m. CST

    another bad egg

    by pitolheart

    prisoner of azkaban was the only film to have successfully translated into the visual medium. the rest failed miserable, and thats not the book-reader or the arm-char detective speaking, but its someone who enjoys good movies and has seen other successful translation of media such as LOTR, Dracula, Omen etc etc. So when you say its just under POA (which was the only good film/good translation) what you really mean is that this installment is another failure.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:13 a.m. CST

    Continentalop: Elijah Wood as Harry Potter?


    How's that? Too old? How about the guy who plays McLovin in Superbad? That would have been awesome, no?

  • July 14, 2009, 6:15 a.m. CST



    You seem down. You should eat a cookie.<p>Cookies make me feel happy.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Final book was a letdown - discuss

    by Kobaal

    Don't know where Quint is getting this "awesome and dark" stuff from. <p> *!!spoiler warning!!* They spend half the book in a tent arguing and defeat Voldemort with a lame trick (using the same spell as they would have at age 13). <p>I so much wanted them to go utterly bad-ass with the unforgivable curses and lay total waste to the death eaters. I honestly thought Neville would use Adava Kadavra on Bellatrix. But sadly they were piss-weak to the end and only won on what amounted to a magical technicality (and because Snape is fucking awesome - the true star of the series).

  • July 14, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST


    by --- Emperor ---


  • July 14, 2009, 6:20 a.m. CST


    by Fortunesfool

    Avatar footage next week. James Cameron or David Yates? Tough call...

  • July 14, 2009, 6:26 a.m. CST

    " Harry my staff needs polishing. That's the boy".

    by EvilWizardGlick

    I'm sure it was written somewhere.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:29 a.m. CST

    I've fully separated the movies from the books

    by SoylentMean

    To me, they're almost two completely different entities. If I had been a kid growing up with the books my demands of strict adherence from the movies might actually exist. <P> Being an adult when the book series first exploded I think actually allowed me to enjoy both for what they were. <P> The books were/are an amazing, amazing phenomenon, one that got literally millions upon millions of kids reading and reading voraciously. If you think that is in anyway a bad thing, no matter what your take on the book series, well then you're an irrevocable asshole. Hell, I don't think the Twilight phenomenon (which has hit the world with a much, much smaller impact than Harry Potter, thank God) would have even come close to happening without J.K. Rowling's books. The kids that devoured the Twilight series are the same kids that got to stay up, wide-eyed, over-tired, and extremely excited for those midnight release parties for each subsequent Harry Potter book.<P> Like it or not, J.K. Rowling is literally the most influential writer on the state of world literacy for this new millenia. That's some heady shit right there.<P> The movies are another phenomenon in their own right, as they can bring us back into the Harry Potter universe for awhile, and so far, at least put smiles on our faces. It says a lot that this series of films, based on fairly recent books, has done so much better than the Narnia films (which are based on timeless, acknowledged classics). These movies are being done right, not perfect mind you, but right. Just imagine if every movie series had this much support from the get go. Our movies would be infinitely better than they are now. <P> Just imagine if Transformers Deux had even an ounce of the love and commitment to excellence that these Harry Potter films exude.<P> Why, this summer might not have sucked at the theaters.


  • July 14, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Thank god...

    by Marxeffect

    I don't have to feel guilty about lusting after Emma Watson now!

  • July 14, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Every Harry Potter movie:

    by floggy bottom

    A great evil threatens Harry. His smarter friends figure everything out. They run around waving their wands, the end.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:37 a.m. CST

    is it

    by Bloo

    the Battle FOR Hogwarts or the Battle OF Hogwarts<P>I always thought it was The Battle FOR Hogwarts because you know that's what they were battling over, who would control Hogwarts the last stand of TOotP

  • July 14, 2009, 6:42 a.m. CST


    by Kobaal

    Did you see her on Letterman and Jonathan Ross recently?<p> Goodness me.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:47 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "When you were young and your heart was an open book*"<p> "You used to say live and let live"<p> "y'know you did, y'know you did, y'know you did"<p> *open book. Harry Potter. Tryin to keep on topic here, aw fuck it. Enjoy McCartney Quint.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:49 a.m. CST

    I kinda don't want to see it now

    by Brody77

    After reading what's missing this time. That sucks ass.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    DOGSOUP, apparently DEATHLY HALLOWS hour long 'tent' diversion is gonna to be shot BLAIR WITCH style with a night vision camera. Green skin and freaky reflective eyes. Can't fucking wait!

  • July 14, 2009, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Harry Potter is great, but the battles are boring

    by Mr Gorilla

    Really, I haven't seen the film so I can't comment too much, but I imagine one of the reasons for shortening the battles is that they are kind of rubbish on film. The Harry Potter world doesn't have its equivalent of the light sabre fight, or the sword fight. You either have characters standing a way from each other saying spells then one of them falls down, or you have that strange liquidy laser beam effect, which we saw at the end of Goblet and Phoenix. The point being, it's super-cool for about 10 seconds, but after that it rapidly becomes very boring. (Unless you have other shit like fire and water and glass and sand, as in the Dumbledore/Voldemort duel.) So I kind of realise why they have to film these wizard battles very carefully, and why they might want to shorten the one at the end of HBP.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:52 a.m. CST

    so no big fight in the end????

    by Six Demon Bag

    i think i would have let the running time slide a little more for this...the audience and fans wouldve forgiven Yates.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:55 a.m. CST



    But did you watch it???? ..... Can't be too careful (Wolverine)

  • July 14, 2009, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Cobra Kai, They fucked. You know it.

    by DOGSOUP

  • July 14, 2009, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Fortune's fool

    by Mr Gorilla

    Actually is IS a tough call. Since 1992 all Cameron has directed is TRUE LIES (a horrible film), TITANIC (a dreaful film) and a few boring underwater docs. Yates, on the other hand, has directed a movie with John Gielgud (THE TICHBORN CLAIMANT), a brilliant TV political thriller (STATE OF PLAY), an adaptation of Thackeray (THE WAY WE LIVE NOW), an Emmy-winner (THE GIRL IN THE CAFE), a tough expose of prostitution (SEX TRAFFIC) and a Harry Potter film that was popular enough to make nearly a billion dollars world-wide.

  • July 14, 2009, 7:08 a.m. CST

    So both Quint and Harry have seen it ...

    by Denty420

    ... that's great. Personally, watching my dog have a shit on the road is a helluva lot more entertaining than anything to do with Harry Potter.

  • July 14, 2009, 7:09 a.m. CST

    My poo is the darkest yet in my poo series

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Ehhh, no big Death Eater fight at the end? As a fan of the books, this raises a lot of questions but I'll see how it plays out cinematically.

  • July 14, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST

    The real story is the battle between Gay and RADICAL Gay.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Harry's story is one of indoctrination into the Homosexual lifestyle. His aunt and Uncle kept him locked in the CLOSET until the BEAR Hagbard rescued him. <p> Fairly clear that his auntie was trying to keep Harry hetro until the gays kidnapped him. Kind of like the Franklin scandal in the US. <p> Next we see Hary involved in the "normal" lifestyle of gay school. But looming on the horizon is the threat of radical homosexuality in the guise of Voldemort. Clearly these are the Gerbilers, obnoxious Gay priders and public gay park frequenters. Just how far is a pet rat from a gerbil. Reading between the lines we come to understand just why the rat form was chosen. Added to that Voldemort and his people are obviously twinks, clean shaven homos vs the bears Harry comes to know and love physically and literally. <p> I suggest the books be reread and films rewatched with the new observations in mind. It all makes sense. The charming allure of Harry's new lifestyle.The snappy dress. The money. Then the creeping horror and grim realization of the truth.

  • July 14, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST

    POO does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    The Academy Of Motion Picture Arts have announced an early, and audacious, front runner for next years Best Documentary Oscar.<p> 'POO' by novice film-makers themagicalhornofguntata and ZombieHeathLedger has wowed audiences at film festivals and many insiders consider it a shoo-in for the Oscar.<p> "What these guys have done, with the 'many shades of poo' vignette and the unforgettable scene where the dog shits on the road. Man - it's groundbreaking stuff" remarked festival judge Wesley Wineovitz.<p> POO has been picked up by distributor Miramax and will open worldwide on July 4th.

  • July 14, 2009, 7:23 a.m. CST

    quint has 2 mothers! omglezbean!

    by ironic_name

    yes, I am aware that people can have step mothers and birthmothers.

  • July 14, 2009, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Good review!

    by ThunderPeel2001

    I feel sorry for the folks who haven't read the books. They're insanely well-written, much better than I thought they were (I used to HATE Harry Potter)... but the worst thing is learning the story through the films... which can't possibly compare.

  • July 14, 2009, 7:24 a.m. CST


    by ThunderPeel2001

    What I mean to say is: Those who are going to learn the full story through the films are not going to be able to enjoy it as much as those who read the books... Because the films just aren't as good, sadly.

  • July 14, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST


    by Spamgelus

    Obsessed with homosexuality much? You are what you eat...

  • July 14, 2009, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Gambon VS Harris


    Haven't seen HBP yet, but I dunno about Gambon as Dumby, he just seems wrong for it. To me, Richard Harris WAS Dumbledore. Ever since Harris everytime I read a Harry Potter book it was his voice I imagined, his face. Gambon was particularly dreadful in GOF, yelling all over the place. Not Dumby.. not dumby at all

  • July 14, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    So Snape gets skunked in his own movie

    by CherryValance

    What the hell? How can they do that? If I was Rickman, I'd sue.

  • July 14, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST


    by jmelrose

    Didn't see the movie yet. Maybe they will START the next one with Dumbledore's funeral, since they have 2 movies of time to play with now?

  • July 14, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Spamgelus, ? What?

    by EvilWizardGlick

    I don't understand what your claim is. What does food have to do with homosexuality? Are you claiming you put mustard on your cock to lure boys at the bath house? <p> Damn it man make sense!

  • July 14, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    These films have gotten worse with each new one.

    by Ecto-1

    I'm a pretty big fan of the Harry Potter books, but sadly not of the films. I thought that the first two were really good adaptations. I enjoyed a lot of Prisoner but they left a few bits of expositional dialogue out, just a couple of minutes worth, that really spoiled it for me. I thought that Goblet of Fire (my fave of the books) was terrible and so was Order of the Pheonix. They just keep on getting worse and citing running time issues is a pretty lame excuse. I'm really not bothered about Half Blood or Deathly Hallows, but I'm sure I'll end up watching them at some point, probably dvd when they're in a sale. Oh yea, and Dan Radcliffe is the worst actor ever. It's incredible that he manages to get worse with each film. There's a falseness to him that he just can't shake, whatever role he is in.

  • July 14, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Columbus did not cast Rickman

    by Logan_1973

    JK Rowling handpicked Rickman for Snape the minute the first deal was signed.

  • July 14, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Talkback just made me realize

    by onezeroone

    that I don't remember most of stuff from Book7 while I do recall Book6 rather well. Once again enforces the feeling that Book7 was a big letdown.<p> Was Book7 dark? Maybe, but not as spectacularly dark as Book6 foreboded it might be.

  • July 14, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Oh, just for record

    by onezeroone

    PoA is both my fav book as well as movie from the series.

  • July 14, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST


    by Mr Gorilla

    Ah! You are a genuine Book Gnome. Therefore, any comment you make on the movies is automatically null and void. Piss off. (PS don't ever watch David Lean's adaptation of GREAT EXPECTATIONS. The amount of expository dialogue the film removes would probably drive you to murder. Let alone the characters that end up on the cutting room floor. PPS For the same reasons you should also avoid Ang Lee's SENSE AND SENSIBILITY, the LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy, all the JAMES BOND movies, THE ENGLISH PATIENT, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, JAWS, FIGHT CLUB, THE GODFATHER, THE IRON GIANT, RASHOMON... the list goes on. These films make changes when they translate the book into film, and the changes would drive you into a Gnome Fury episode.)

  • July 14, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Glad I'm not the only one unimpressed with Book 7

    by FeralAngel

    Of course ALL the books are a long hard read, but man...did Book 7 bite. Worst scene was where Harry told a freaking out Ron that Hermione was like a sister to him. Well (thinks the poor puzzled reader) who the hell is GINNY to YOU, Harry? Where the hell did SHE come from? What's she like, I have no idea, because she's had like 3 pages devoted to her over the whole overblown overpriced series! Ah yes, Harry Potter, boy wizard, breeder of better imitators (Lightning Thief) and slayer of many forests (bookcases have collapses beneath those humongous tomes). Glad when this crap is allllllllllll over. Then maybe a ripping film can be made from the Lightning Thief. So much better than Potter it hurts. No crappy unbelievable hookups and a genuinely well-written story. With gods and goddesses instead of hairy old wand-waving fags and even gayer house-elves. Can't wait.

  • July 14, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    "Half-Blood Prince will make a bazigillion dollars...

    by jim

    "...and deserves every penny of it."<p>I would agree it deserved "every penny" if Warners released the 3D Imax version at the same time and not 2 weeks later. Why is that? Is there an official reason? The only reason I can see is to get people to go see it twice. <p>As much as I wanted to see the film this week, I am more eager to see it in the Imax 3D. That's how I want to experience it for the first time. I guess for me the movie doesn't open until July 29.

  • July 14, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST


    by FrenchBastard03

    .. I had really hoped the time between those first screenings last year and this summer would have been enough time for them to realize their mistake and address the complaints of Harry not being paralyzed in that final scene, no battle and no funeral, etc. But alas, stupidity overides. I mean its like, "hey this makes perfect sense in the book.. let's change it!" Bastards. Of all the things to fuck up, you don't fuck up Dumbledore's death.

  • July 14, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST


    by Marxeffect

    Damn right I did! at least on Jonathan Ross anyway. Looking damn fine, damn, damn fine!

  • July 14, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Big Jim

    by Kaiser Soze

    When they announced Half Blood Prince would hit IMAX 2 weeks later than it hit conventional screens, they said then that it was because Transformers 2 contractually had IMAX locked up for July and they didn't want to delay the film just for IMAX. The sucky part is that the IMAX version of HBP is supposed to be close to 15 minutes longer. But yeah, HBP in IMAX was delayed due to the family dog fuckin', devastator ball suckin' load of complete crap that was Revenge of the Fallen.

  • July 14, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Figured as much...

    by buffywrestling

    There were others who have read the book who didn’t mind the inclusion of the Burrow attack but did feel slightly cheated at the end because of the toned down DeathEater attack. I was just hoping, after reading things about Tom Felton’s performance, that it wouldn’t diminish the things that Malfoy was supposed to be going through, those things hanging over his head and make them a little less harrowing. (Yes, I have an ickle fangrrl crush on Draco Malfoy, the slimy git. How could I not feel sorry for him with a Father like that, who carries around a cane to rap him with? I have a problem with the abuse of authority. Which is one of the reasons why I also hate Dumbledore a little.) <p> I can separate the books from the movies somewhat. I always pictured the kids being very different looking in my head than they do in the movies, for one. Most of the adults, however have been spot on. Narsissa Malfoy causes me some concern though. I always pictured her as this blonde icy snob, not the skunk haired, bitter type. I wish they would have gotten Tilda but oh well. And the novels themselves are really, really funny. It’s a very british type of humour, low key and a bit macabre. I love that but the movies so far have not been very subtle about it. I hope that changes a bit for HBP. <p> The film series as a whole has been a bit amazing. I think people give this series less credit than LotR, it’s true and probably for valid reasons. But I remember when RotK won those awards (although I essentially think it should have won for FotR) that there was this feeling of, “About time they acknowledged…”. I think Potter Fans might be feeling this same thing after the end of Deathly Hallows. <p> Thx Eric!

  • July 14, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    the twins are freakin awesome

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    best actors in the movie

  • July 14, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    im sorry but HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU REMOVE THE FUNREAL!?!??!?!?!

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    how!?!?! even as a movie the funeral would make sense to have! possibly the most important character (and one of the most important in the series) in the movie/book dies AND YOU CUT THE FUNERAL WHICH ISNT EVEN THAT LONG OF A FUCKING SCENE??!?! and worse than that HARRY, RON AND HERMINONES CONVERSATION THERE PERFECTLY SETS UP DEATHLY HALLOWS!!!! no other cut in the history of book to movies has upset me more. i try not to judge these as book to movies too much, just movies on their own, since that way alot more people seem to love them, but that scene being cut alone might kill the whole thing for me. the cutting of the death eater battle pissed me off enough, because it was a great read seeing harry and dumbledore coming back from the cave to a fuckin the scene that was taking place at hogwarts. FUCK. thats like if they cut out the final task in the goblet of fire!

  • July 14, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    richard harriswas the famliy freindly dumbledore

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    glad gambon was in these dark entries in the series. though he was fucking awful in 4 HARRY DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE! SILENCE! QUIET!! jesus he shouted his way through that fucking movie

  • July 14, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Thanks, Kaiser Soze

    by jim

    I guess I can't really blame WB then as it isn't really their fault. Or is this due in part to their moving the release date from November to July and Transformers already had this month locked-up?<p>Anyway, it does suck and I think, after 2 weeks it should be left up to the individual theaters on whether or not they want to continue to show a film. After all, since when do studios care about any movie past its opening weekend?<p>Also, I may be wrong, but I think those 15 minutes are not extra, but are instead in 3D.

  • July 14, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    'no other cut in the history of books to movies has upset met mo

    by Mr Gorilla

    I don't know. I think if you read and adored 'I, Robot', you might find the Will Smith idiotfest a tad annoying.

  • July 14, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Gambon's Goblet yelling

    by Kaiser Soze

    it was always my impression that when he yelled at Harry about putting his name in the Goblet that, if you'll notice, he was running ahead of the other school headmasters so that he be the one to question Harry rather than them, and so that they would not think that Dumbledore was in on it, Harry being his "favorite" and all...I just always thought he yelled so harshly for show in front of the others, to avoid suspicion upon himself since his school was hosting the thing

  • July 14, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST


    by spiceybiscuit

    obviously, the books were read by you seemed to enjoy and understand the moview better then Harry and Mass who have not...almost as if you guys saw an different movie all together

  • July 14, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    so the review tally is

    by Six Demon Bag

    Positive: 2<P> Negative: 1<P> Harry's WTF BLABFEST: 1.

  • July 14, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    "Cole Abaius" sounds like a videogame character

    by Raymar

  • July 14, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Christian Bale isn't American ??????

    by crazybubba


  • July 14, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Bale belongs to the World

    by buffywrestling

    He knows no nationality.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    I can't fucking wait!

    by Cult07

    Fuck, I can't see it midnight!!

  • July 14, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    which night at citi field?

    by durban1973

    I have tix to both friday and saturday. greatly looking forward to seeing Sir Paul. Missing HP to see Paul right before my vacation.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    FUCK YOU David Yates

    by D.Vader

    And you too, David Heyman. For fucking up all the great potential this film had.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST


    by MapMan

    I think it's kind of sad that hollywood has taken over these books to make them all into movies. These thick, rich books were for kids and kids devoured them (not that adults didn't enjoy them as well). Now that hollywood got involved, all the imagination kids get from reading has been done for them already. They know what the characters and settings look like. No imagination required. Why not leave the books for the kids and keep the adults and hollywood out? Because there is bajillions of $$$ to be made. Sad really...

  • July 14, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Supposedly the final battle was cut because...

    by D.Vader

    They didn't want to repeat themselves with the final battle in the last movie. <p> Are you telling me David Yates isn't a good enough filmmaker to make those battles look and feel entirely different (because THEY ARE)? What a piece of shit excuse for not including the retreating fight between the Death Eaters and the good guys in this film. Just an all around lame excuse to create what sounds like a badly plotted and illogical "action" sequence- the attack on the Weasley's house.

  • I fully expect the final Battle of Hogwarts, brought to you by David Yates and Heyman, to be bloody atrocious, a complete letdown.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    This does not deserve a bagillion dollars

    by D.Vader

    It would if they had done the book a little more justice instead of treating every serious moment as just a "eh, whatever" moment. Harry deals out the Sectumsempra curse like he's giving a hobo a sandwich. Sirius is killed out of left field with no setup whatsoever. One of the most important characters doesn't get his poignant funeral after his death. I could go on, but I just get more upset and saddened by the producer and director's lack of foresight or care.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Anyone disappointed with the Potter films and these reviews...

    by D.Vader

    I urge you to NOT see the film the first few weeks of release. As a small, ineffective protest.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    i'm protesting until they put in a real American..

    by crazybubba

    like sasha baron cohen.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Real American?

    by D.Vader

    Russel Crowe as Scrimgeour. Duh.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    HP only got good after they dumped slavish translation

    by reflecto

    along with Chris Columbus. I've found all of them since the third to be quite decent; I don't give a shit about vomiting everything from the book onto the screen. Every film but the first two works, for a reason.

  • July 14, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    There's a reason some of us lament losses from the book...

    by D.Vader

    Because often, what transpires in the book ends up being better and more cinematic than what ends up onscreen. <p> I don't mean we want slavish translations. I just want the films to live up to their potential. And aside from the 3rd film, they don't.

  • July 14, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    what do movie buffs have against a slavish translation?

    by crazybubba

    if the source book is good why not have a slavish translation? i've never read a harry potter book, but don't directors screw things up a lot when they go off in their own direction? for every Shining don't you have at least 3 or 4 starship troopers.

  • July 14, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I'll Never Understand How/Why...

    by blhotz

    so many Adults enjoy these movies/books. I would have loved the books/movies as a 10-13 year-old. It's great that people like Quint review the movies. But it boggles my mind on how many Adults take these movies so seriously... BTW I did try to watch various parts of the movies on HBO and they still seemed like kid movies to me with zero incentives to young or old adults. each their own I suppose but surprises me very much on the # of Adults who enjoy them......

  • July 14, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    This film is a great example of why following the books is best

    by D.Vader

    Ahem: They cut out a fantastic battle sequence at the end of the movie in favor of... <p>... a completely madeup, for the film, sequence in which the bad guys, with no real reason or motive, attack the Weasley's household, a moment that reeks of "action for action's sake since we've spent far too much unexciting time with the teenage love triangles".

  • July 14, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Extended Editions - Would have been GREAT...

    by spud mcspud

    But bear in mind this is WB - and such a smart idea wouldn't come easily to them. I think each movie should have been made EXACTLY as the book was, then re-edited to reflect what the director intended, with a book-to-movie Extended Edition released a few weeks later, LOTR style. That way, if we Potter fans want to watch an exact version of the book, and it last for four and a half hours, THE DECISION IS OURS - and not that we constantly wonder what could've been, like we all have been since learning that Rik Mayall was actually filmed as Peeves the poltergeist, and we'll NEVER get to see that footage.<P> Sometimes, Extended Editions can only be a GOOD IDEA - and the Potter movies undoubtedly should have had them. One massively missed opportunity by the WB there.

  • July 14, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    It boggles the mind why they never did Extended Editions

    by D.Vader

    My God, WB is sitting on a gold mine here, and they never bothered to even try and exploit it beyond merchandising. Angry Potter fans would EAGERLY buy those Extended Editions, films that were more like the book, had they included them. Morons.

  • July 14, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Col Tigh-Fighter - The Battle FOR Node 39976

    by spud mcspud

    Those of us who were there, at the end of all things, when the heavens erupted and the all-powerful Headgeek's global network was shaken for that moment, when we glimpsed the glory of a universe for the Bale-ievers, when we storde forth for White Vader and Lt Andie MacDowall, and Nigella's heaving momma breasts, for Aunt Beru's sweet downhome country peach-pi, for Purple Lando and Red Yoda and the end of all that was not Bale --<P> We were there, fellow Professionals. Never forget. Bale be with us all. FUCK THE AMATEURS!!!

  • July 14, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    D. Vader

    by spud mcspud

    I'll NEVER forgive the WB for not picking up GLOBAL FREQUENCY from that awesome pilot - yet that pale imitation of it, FRINGE, the bastard offspring of THE X-FILES and GLOBAL FREQUENCY, ends up getting a second series. No fucking justice whatsoever. Ending a pilot with the main character having to shoot an innocent guy in the head to save the world - FUCK. Only TORCHWOOD - CHILDREN OF EARTH has had the balls to go THAT dark this century, and that belongs to us in the UK (heh heh). WB fucked up not picking up GLOBAL FREQUENCY, and the perfect Miranda Zero in Michelle Forbes. FUCK THEM ALL.

  • July 14, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST


    by spud mcspud


  • July 14, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    @ Quint - Really?

    by thevagraunt

    If you thought Prisoner of Azkaban was the high water mark of the series, then this review really holds no water.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Despite never having watched a single hour of any 24 (I REALLY need a few weeks of nothin' but watching DVD box sets ;D) I can completely believe that. But did he save the world because of that act?!? If not - GLOBAL FREQUENCY wins!<P> That pilot really was great, though. Why can't they fucking release it on DVD, check the sales - and relaunch that series? Fucking suit losers.

  • July 14, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Ah. I see. **TORCHWOOD spoilers**

    by spud mcspud

    My post was a bit confusing. Basically, I meant that GLOBAL FREQUENCY's unaired pilot ended (like in the comic) with the main guy shooting the (partly) innocent guy in the head to stop him going nuclear and taking out the whole state.<P> TORCHWOOD pulled a similar stunt, but WITH A KID. AND HIS MOTHER WATCHING. AND HIS GRANDFATHER. And the kid's death DOES save the world.<P> That shit is COLD. I think even Jack Bauer would think twice about doing what Captain Jack "wishes he was Sparrow" Harkness does. CHILDREN OF EARTH was EVERYTHING that TORCHWOOD should've been from the start.

  • July 15, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Spud - Professional dude!

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    We band of brothers, we lucky few.

  • Not sure if it is "ripping" but one has been made, directed by Chris Columbus. Opens February 2010.<br>

  • July 15, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    I reckon I'll be the one human that hated HP6!

    by wacko3205

    Well folks…I reckon I'ma be the only human around that really hated this one, huh? Here's my thing...if you love the novels…this aint a Harry Potter film for you…but if you love the humor/wit/teen angst bits of here & there that the movies bring…you’ll love Harry Potter & the Half Blood Prince. It was a really disappointing night for me self & the fiancé as we had been waiting with baited breath for months & months on end to bust up into the midnight showing of Potter 6. I hate to say this…but it sucked. Don’t get me wrong…the effects are the bomb, the jokes play well, the kids are getting better at their shticks, & it was an enjoyable ride…but it sure as hell doesn’t meet expectations & it’s one of the most crudely worked messes that I’ve seen in a long, long, time. That was hard for me to say/type. I love the brand…passionately…but the blames gotta fall on Yates, Kloves, & the rest of his people. Don’t get me wrong…I’m no filmsmith…but no shit…I saw more pulled punches during this film than sitting in on one of Don King’s famous World Championship Boxing matches. The minute the bell rang…it was obvious that the fix was in! Per the previews blasting the net for the better part of the past year, the Death Eaters hit London fast & hard…& then…just as quick as they hit…they flicker off to Diagon Alley…blow out some windows & storefronts & then poof…they Kaiser Sose the fuck out & that’s it. The entire film runs that way…all the way to the attack on the Weasley’s pad & straight on through to Dumbledor’s run in with Voldemort’s horcrux & his untimely death. There are no explanations & even less resolves/pay offs. It is ridiculous. They never explain who the Half Blood Prince is, why he is, or what his background is…you find out who the HBP is by a ridiculous explanation at the end of the film & its delivery feels about as painful as passing a turd that’s been backed up by a three day cheese eating beach! The best part of the film is (of course the trio & my personal fav Luna) Jim Broadbent (aka: Slughorn) but he too is never utilized to his potential…& honestly…that’s the damned crying shame of the flick…it never hits its potential. At the end of the day…its just an opinion…& not one that I wanted to pass.

  • July 15, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    HP6 was actually okay

    by spud mcspud

    And I speak as a major fan of the books - I still think the book with the most missed potential was GOBLET OF FIRE (we needed a LOT more Quidditch World Cup, to give us the scale of a wizarding world event, and much more Triwizard Cup action too), but this wasn't too far off. We aren't given anywhere near as much build up for what the Half-Blood Prince means to Harry (in the movie, he's just some previous pupil who knew his way round some potions, he's a LOT more in the book) and the reveal is a throwaway piece of shit scene. The climactic battle, where the Death Eaters enter Hogwarts and commit the unspeakable act, is way different to the book and - while different - has much less resonance (the Harry we know in the movies would NOT hold back just because a certain character gives him a "shush!" signal, then commits said crime - he'd give himself away!) and doesn't have the visceral blow to the gut it has in the book. It should have been much more close to the book.<P> That said, the main trio are getting better - Grint particularly, as his comic timing is SUPERB in this movie - and I'm glad to see Ron's Quidditch skills get some screen time too. Bonnie Wright is leaps ahead of her flat previous portrayals of Ginny - Her Ginny in this is feisty and confident, she's someone you can actually envisage being Harry's emotional equal in the final movie, which is what we need. For me, she's the most improved young actor in it. Lavender Brown is too OTT, not grounded enough to be realistic, but still fun onscreen, and jim Broadbent steals the show from the older actors, though Rickman is - as always - fantastic, and Gambon gives Dumbledore much-needed pathos in this one. All in all, if you forget the book and what happened in it, it's not a bad movie by any means - a great ride on the big screen, in fact - but if it had been more like the book, it could have been the best thus far. It's not the shitstorm so many are protraying it as, it's just radically different to its source material. Even Helena Bonham Carter isn't as annoying in this one.<P> Fuck the haters - it's well worth your ten bucks.

  • July 15, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST


    by Arteska

    I really do think that the funeral scene would have been very redundant to the removal of the dark mark scene in the context of how they would both play in the movie essentially back to back. It's a choice of economy in an already kind of longish movie. I do agree though that a bit depicting the consequences of the Death Eaters finally breaking in (the fight with the Order and the Aurors at Hogwarts) and just a BIT more coloring devoted to illustrating Harry's relationship with the book/Half Blood Prince would have helped a great deal. The cave sequence reads so cinematically so I knew they would devote the time and care they did to it. This was really enjoyable though and I agree the "movie gods" seem to be watching over this series. I'm not really sure people appreciate just how good this whole endeavor has been realized.

  • July 16, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST

    why the fuck would they cut a battle?

    by Warcraft

    are they fucking stupid? is the director lazy? he just wanted to film the easy shit. what a fucking hack.

  • July 16, 2009, 3:12 a.m. CST

    I thought it was fantastic

    by Mr Gorilla

    I honestly think that ANOTHER battle at the end would have been a bit boring - I like the fact they concentrated on Draco, Harry, Dumbledore and Snape in this secion. I think it's a brilliant film - definitely up there with Azkaban. It totally stays in your head long after you've seen it (how often does THAT happen with blockbusters?) and I absolutely can't wait to see it again.

  • July 16, 2009, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Re all this extended edition talk

    by Mr Gorilla

    I think if it's at all possible film makers shoudl commit to ONE edition. I HATED the way Saruman just VANISHED from the theatrical editions of the LORD OF THE RINGS movies, and we were told that the fate of this major character would be seen only in the extended versino. That, in my opinion, makes the theatrical version bankrupt. I rather what Yates and Kloves have done: grow a pair of balls, make cuts, stand by them.

  • July 16, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST


    by Henry Fool

    Only someone who's either still a virgin who watches too much porn or someone who's never made a woman have a real orgasm and knows it could have written a post as pathetic as that. I bet you don't even know how to locate a woman's g-spot. Go read "The Multi-Orgasmic Man" by Mantak Chia. Seriously. I'm worried about you, dude.

  • July 16, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    I agree with you Quint

    by Hamish

    I haven't read the books - I'm doing a Harry in that regard, but I felt like it anti-climaxed a bit. Still a great film, and like you I want more of all the good bits.

  • July 16, 2009, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Great review dude..

    by Darth Valinorean

    Just got back from the movie. And you are absolutely right. The movie fell apart after Harry & Dumbledore got back to Hogwarts. It needed to be more action. Heck, I agree with everything you are saying - but you said it better than me. That's why you are the reviewer and I'm the reader. Nice job.

  • July 20, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    They should start the next one with the funeral

    by Tacom

    The thing I remember about the HBP book is the Voldemort's past stuff and the thing I'll remember about this one is the romantic comedy. Is a good thing I actually did like that stuff! The Lavender Brown scene's were hilarious.

  • July 25, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Editor Mark Day needs to be shot

    by Triciani

    Quint says choppy final scene; I say the last 20 minutes are decapitation by nail clippers. What was that grotto scene, I implore you, what was *that*?!! I loved the movie from the very first images, but by God, get an actual editor to do Deathly Hallows, please, 'cause that was some of the worst editing I've ever seen!

  • Aug. 16, 2009, 5:36 a.m. CST

    Slings and Arrows

    by HyphenatedWords

    It's sobering when life's slings and arrows prevent you from seeing a movie that you've been looking forward to. Here it is mid August, and I'm just getting around to seeing HBP. I was burning to see it, with that piqued anticipation only waiting for a new film to come out can cause. I was in a bad mood for half a day when circumstances prevented me, when I was required to be a grown up, relent, and say, "It's only a movie." Why do we hate saying that so much? It's such a privilege to be alive in this age of cinema, with its mega-budgets, full transparency, and immediate gratification. We love feeling that entitlement.<br> <br> So, it's a strange feeling to have seen the movie last night and then arrive at the end of this dormant talkback. A battle was waged here. There are still bloodstains on the walls and broken wands everywhere. The defenders of the book were here. The lovers of the films stood their ground over there. The haters apparated onto that platform there. It was a hell of a battle, one that repeats every couple of years whenever a new HP film hits. Coming into it like this, I'm left with the sad thought, "Wow. So much energy. So much bloodshed. So much passion... spent on this?"<br> <br> The irony, of course, is that I made the journey here. I'm standing on that battlefield and yearning for the sword or musket or M-16 or wand. This party is already over.<br> <br> One thing I hate about talkbacks is that they seem to rarely address the review at hand. Quint, you've perfectly captured my feelings about the movie as though you unscrewed the top of my head, stuck in a straw, sucked out some gelatinous matter, and begat your review from it. :) I loved this movie. I loved watching it with my 10-year-old daughter. I loved Danielle Radcliffe and Michael Gambon. I adored every scene with Jim Broadbent. I thought the editing was at times... ODD... and at times innovative and inspired. That pullback from one train window and zoom-in to our heroes' compartment is a great example. Draco's subtle reveals and juxtapositions with happier, more innocent teens were brilliant. I was willing to let go of the end battle because the filmmakers FOCUSED on Dumbledore when they could have had a free-for-all, switch-cutting fracas. I can respect that. The battle in the book was primarily to distract from Draco's assignment, and we had The Order vs. the Death Eaters in the last movie. Frankly, the wand battles just haven't translated well to the screen because the film can't pause to explain what curse is happening when from whom, to whom, and the meanings behind them all. So, we get a pretty light show with lots (and lots) and exploding squibs. Unless they were willing to roll up their sleeves and reinvent that cinematic wheel, I'm glad they left it out.<br> <br> In summary... Great job, talkbackers for stepping into your parts and fighting the good fight. Great review, Quint, for its clarity and resonance. And... I finally saw the new Harry Potter film. Loved it. Flaws? Yes. But I loved it, and I think it's a tremendous privilege that I'm alive during this time when I can say, "I can't wait to see the next Harry Potter movie."