Live Action Jin-Roh Coming? How About More Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex?
Anime News Network reports that Production I.G Vice-President Maki Terashima-Furuta has acknowledged a comment made at Production I.G's Anime Expo convention panel, stating "somebody has the live-action rights, and somebody was planning to make a live-action Jin-Roh, but at the moment, I have no comment." Written by Mamoru Oshii (Ghost in the Shell movies, Sky Crawlers), but directed by Hiroyuki Okiura, the anime film is set within Oshii's Kerberos saga, an alternate history of a totalitarian Japan moving from the 1940's to the 21st century, centered around armored anti-riot, anti-revolutionary police. From the provocative entry in The Japanamerican Devil Jin Roh n: A brilliant film about what might happen if Japan lost World War II. Actually, Japan did lose World War II. So this film is about what would happen if Japan lost World War II to Japan's friends - the Germans. It's horrible and beautiful in equal doses. And it makes you think: maybe Japan did lose the war to its friends - the Americans - and they took over everything. Set in the 1950's, Jin-Roh follows Kerberos Panzer Cops member Kazuki Fuse, who is assigned to be retrained after failing to shoot a bomber known as a Little Red Riding Hood. The anime was released on DVD and Blu-ray (good luck finding the latter) in North America by Bandai Entertainment and VIZ Media. Speaking of Production I.G at Anime Expo, according to ANN, the company rep responded to questions about the possibility of more Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex anime saying they expect the project to happen, but that the director is currently tied up in other projects. Stand Alone Complex director Kenji Kamiyama has recently been working on "fantapolitical thriller" Eden of The East. An 11 episode anime TV series has completed and two movies are on the way.
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July 7, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST
yes to more anime!
July 7, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST
So Firsting isn't cool
July 7, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST
by M Bison
Looking forward to more Ghost in the Shell. Kusanagi, Batou, Togusa and the gang! WOOT!
July 7, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST
I just wonder why HBO and Showtime won't option some anime titles for live action series as opposed to the continual sex fetish shows they continue to produce. A 2-3 season Stand Alone Complex for example could be really cool.
July 7, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST
"maybe Japan did lose the war to its friends - the Americans - and they took over everything."<p> Howzzat for gratitude? America goes and cancels your national debt, despite the fact that you were their enemies, whilst squeezing England for every last penny for daring to ask for help fighting Hitler, and all you can do is kvetch about them "taking over everything"!<p> I'm kinda being tongue-in-cheek, but there's something to that. I guess Japan was being rewarded for being such good little capitalists.
July 7, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST
I mean they actually gave you millions and millions to help rebuild Japan.
July 7, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST
July 7, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST
I could have sworn that the live action films RED SPECTACLES and STRAY DOG, both directed by JIN ROH creator Oshii, had covered the same ground as the anime. Seems kinda redundant to do another one.
July 7, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST
July 7, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Any word on Spielberg's intentions and development of a live action GITS?<P>"Mickey Rourke dream casting for Batou."<P>Not bad at all.
July 7, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST
Red Spectacles and Stray Dog are also part of the Kerberos Saga. As is Fast Food Drifters. Given that Production I.G aren't elaborating on their comment, it's mostly a matter of tea leaf reading to determine what they mean when they refer to a Jin-Roh adaptation
July 7, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST
He also directed MORIBITO: GUARDIAN OF THE SPIRIT. Which is a damn fine fantasy-action series. That's available stateside via Media Blasters. Between that, GITS:SAC, and EDEN OF THE EAST, this guy's definitely a director worth noting.
July 7, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST
July 7, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST
<p>And having never been exposed to Ghost in the Shell before (yes, a capital offense, I know), the first four episodes I've seen are pretty interesting.</p> <p>I really like the fact that it has a whole Rainbow Six/Law and Order vibe in a cyberpunk setting. Granted, it's not something I've ever really considered or seen before, but it works out surprisingly well.</p>
July 7, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST
Who found Jin-Roh quite boring? I nearly fell aslep during it. Was I just being dense or not in the right frame of mind or is it actually dull?
July 7, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST
... if Japanese production companies produce features with the express intent of foisting them off onto American fanboy audiences who strain at the leash yelping and crying for the next tidbit of film, regardless of its quality (or lack there-of). <p> I suppose in the end, the point is moot. I just wait out all the crap for the rare and infrequent treasure. While it tasks my patience, I've been rewarded time and again with wonderful experiences like 'Kiki's Delivery Service' and so many others. <p> Hell, I actually tried to sit thru an ep of Naruto last week.. HOLY CRAP have they given up on the drawing quality... WOW! *sigh*
July 7, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST
Shit I've still gotta get off my lazy ass and buy the box sets for both seasons and the movie. But this is a series that I hope never ends, same goes for Black Lagoon...<br><br>As for live action jin Roh, it could be anything... they either mean a Japanese movie or a Hollywood movie but I'm guessing they mean Hollywood adaptation, but I don't really see why Hollywood would be interested in Jin Roh, they'd probably just take the setting and make their own story and call it the Wolf's Brigade and set it in Europe. If anything they'd might as well pool in all their resources and go all out and make a Killzone movie...
July 7, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST
...but I always found GITS:SAC turgid and pretentious. The fleeting bits of cool action didn't make up for the endless, dry, poorly presented exposition. The writers were way too in love with all of their "cool" ideas and backstory, and felt the need to cram all of it in, typically in these briefing scenes that would be prefaced by the director telling the team, "Well, as you know..." It's a beautiful-looking series, with some good concepts, but they badly need to learn that sometimes you have to love your creations enough to cut them.
July 7, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST
July 7, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST
July 7, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST
July 7, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST
Plus, it's not like the corporate media gives us real news anyway. Now they're revealing what they're truly are, an infotainment conglomerate.
July 7, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST
<p>"And it makes you think: maybe Japan did lose the war to its friends - the Americans - and they took over everything."</p> <p>Uh, yeah, we TRIED talking to 'em, but, they, uh, decided to bomb the heck out of, all places, paradise. Yeah. Got our attention.</p> <p>Think we can manage to throw in historicism, history revisionist crap, and political correctness 'long w/Jacko into the grave [Yeah, <b>today</b>, I mean]? Yeah? Can? Mahalos, brah.</p>
July 7, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST
by Fixthe Fernback
Just started watching series 2. LOVED series 1 (and both films). This is great news!
July 7, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST
More Stand Alone Complex!!! The first season starts out a bit tough to follow but the last half of the season is fantastic. The second season's plot isn't quite as tight but still entertaining and more action oriented. Can't wait!
July 7, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST
Well it's a trailer recorded off a TV screen by a camcorder and put on Youtube. But hey it's all you got so far... tinyurl.com/mmh7m7
July 7, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST
July 7, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST
I love GITS! people love the fucking matrix shit movies, when all they are is a rip-off of ghost in shell
July 7, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST
Crap that they're trying to make us like now.
July 7, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST
they don't teach WWII history in Japan. They just know an atomic bomb was dropped on them. The reason why is not taught. It's fucked up.
July 7, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST
<p>I'm sure you're right in that some Japanese companies produce stuff explicitly for the American fanboy audience (GIRUGAMESH!!!!111). But you have to consider that the anime studios are pretty much doing the same thing with Japanese otaku audiences as well--they (the Japanese otakus) start drooling at the mouth for a certain genre or style, and before you know it, a whole gamut of stuff is released without considering quality.</p> <p>I mean, consider how popular Lucky Star was. After the whole concept of Seinfeld-influenced moe was established as being popular, producers went for K-ON: possibly one of the most stupid, inane, moe-exploitative disgusting things ever. It takes the moe and slice-of-life and pointless aspects of Lucky Star and magnifies it a thousand fold. The end result is, unfortunately, crap.</p>
July 7, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST
by Optimus Primal
Complete and utter shit, and I'm a guy who can sit through almost anything.
July 7, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST
by wampa 1
...but it sure smells good!
July 7, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST
July 7, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST
Jackie Chan is from Hong Kong. <BR> Best thing to come out of Japan is Macross. Without it, a huge amount of Anime would never have existed, and the West's exposure to anime would also have been hampered. <BR><BR> ( tons of other great anime out there of course ...)
July 7, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST
got raped by the japanese in WW2. So Jackie chan's probably got some Jap-O in him.
July 7, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST
You're probably watching filler episodes of Naruto. Granted it's never been gorgeous to look at, but it reaches an all time low as soon as those fillers kick in (which is probably fair enough, seeing as nice animation couldn't even save them from sucking.)
July 8, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST
hopefully, it will be so boring it puts people into comas. i hope it has all the mind numbing pseudo intellectual gibberish from the series.
July 8, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST
Horribly animated, it was embarrassing esp the action scene near the end with the mecha..UH..why is it no one can do the manga justice in terms of tone & style?????
July 8, 2009, 12:54 a.m. CST
good luck, people like that shitty director of the 2 movies. They completely didn't get the tone of the Manga..
July 8, 2009, 3:27 a.m. CST
by Amy Chasing
it was one of the finest animated movies I'd ever seen. Up there with Grave of the Fireflies only not as gut-wrenchingly sad. <P> The live-action version of Grave of the Fireflies was like an Asian Hallmark/Lifetime midday movie. Hopefully they don't want to do a similar thing with Jin-Roh. <P> As for Stand Alone Complex, compared to most other anime series SAC is one of the more interesting, philosophical and excellent examples of CGI mixed with cel animation. It's not Miyazaki, it's not the manga, it's a fine work in its own right.
July 8, 2009, 4:06 a.m. CST
Wow! Im stunned by all the GitS hatred going on here.. I thought it was an accepted fact that GitS was one of the best series out there. It's one of my all-time favorites. Great hard Sci-fi isn't easy to find.<p>I saw Jin-Roh about 2 years ago and really liked it at the time, but now I can't even remember the plot. I'll have to re-watch it now. =)<p>Anyone out there seen Future Boy Conan? I've seen a few episodes and I am surprised how good it is, especially for being produced in 1978. I guess you really can't go wrong with a Miyazaki directed TV series.
July 8, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST
by Motoko Kusanagi
Oh and Jin-Roh is an awesome movie! No need to make it into a live action movie. It's perfect as it is.
July 8, 2009, 5:59 a.m. CST
by The Dark Shite
Yeah, she's trolling. She's already ruined the Torchwood TB (& gave me a headache in the process). I learned it's best to ignore her. <p> Jin-Roh looks pretty cool! Not sure about the dialogue though. Might be better watching it in Japanese. Speaking of which, shouldn't it be Jin-Rou?
July 8, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST
As opposed to the mind numbing pseudo intellectual gibberish from the manga... amirite? And GITS:SAC is anything but poorly animated. And now I call everyone's attention to the people who seem to hate this series for the above reasons, you them folks? These people are most definately what we like to call 'Stupid.' Hey stupids! There's another sci fi movie out now that's suitable for your intellectual level, it's called Transformers 2! It's all action less stop and think talky! And none of that slow moody shit from Jin Roh, but lots of Megan Fox ass and comedy skits that involve marijuana and dogs humping! Now there's a director who gives you what you want immediately without having you think through anything, damnit you're paying for the movie so it's their job to do the hard parts for you!
July 8, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST
however, the movie was too focused on dialog and not enough action for westerners like me. the again, i like junk like Angel Cop. now that i can see as a appealing live action (with the emphasis on action) movie than JR.i bought most of the GITS SAC DVDs used but never got around to watching any of them. damn blu-ray and videogames take up my indoor time...second to the missus of course.
July 8, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST
Then again, it might have to do that I'm in love with the Major. This show is smart, gorgeous and damn engaging. It is exceptionally directed and edited with a sense of humor about itself. I dare declare it brilliant. The series is superior to the manga and the films. I didn't expect that to happen?!
July 8, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST
Yeah, but would you really want to see that happen to a real child? Frankly I don't blame them for toning it down a bit. It was bad enough with a cartoon kid.
July 8, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST
its stupid shit made to make stupid people think its smart, like the Matrix sequels. nothing is ever said that smart people dont already take as common sense. its a tedious waste of time.
July 8, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST
by Amy Chasing
I have to admit to not watching the whole Grave of the Fireflies live-action because I found the first half hour so schmaltzy, technicolor and like I said Hallmark movie-ish that I never got to see what happened to the kids. The acting and music was so obvious it just went against my grain. <P> And BMacSmith, I think we just have to agree to disagree. SAC, like the Matrix series, may not say anything new but they say things that have not been put into sci-fi films before, let alone animated shows. It's just movies catching up with the rest of literary and philosophical culture, only in the way movies can - colorful, stylised and loud. <P> As for common sense, who ever said sense was common?
July 9, 2009, 5:01 a.m. CST
that could play the major
July 9, 2009, 7:05 a.m. CST
by Amy Chasing
but probably not anymore. <P> Can't think of any younger actors who have a similar look (and _those_ proportions).
July 9, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST
Sure, the look of the actress will be very important, but I think her voice will be vital too. I just recently re-watched the first GitS movie and although the voice actor that played the Major did a fine job, because her voice was so different from the series, it kept pulling me out of the story. I kept wondering who was talking. The actor that does the Major in GitS:SAC, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn.. that's the REAL voice to me. For a live action movie, they will have to dub her voice with the TV series' actor's voice.<p>
July 9, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST
I think that if you got someone that was pretty close in their look, that would be alright. I think that for medium/close-up shots, they should CGI the actors face to be smoother and slightly manufactured, since she is a cyborg after all. Her face, and whole body for that matter, is synthetic and therefore shouldn't look perfectly natural. Maybe her complexion should be unnaturally perfect, like a doll.
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