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More Galifiankis is a good thing! What's next for the bearded one?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I love that Zach Galifianakis finally seems to be breaking through to the mainstream thanks to THE HANGOVER. Borys Kitt and Steven Zeitchik have a story over at the Risky Business, a blog at Hollywood Reporter, about the myriad of options open in front of Zach Galifiankis right now.
If the dude chooses correctly and follows up THE HANGOVER with another great comedy he'll no doubt cement himself in the public psyche.
Most of his potential projects seem to keep him paired with Todd Phillips (probably a good idea). There's a project called Due Date, which is another road trip movie where Galifianakis would play a slacker traveling with an uptight dude... I'm sure there's something there for those two to be attached to the project, but it sounds like they'd be covering the same ground.
Far more interesting to me is a flick called MAN-WITCH, a film that had Jack Black attached for a while, but sounds like it'd be absolutely perfect for Galifianakis... It's about a grown man who finds out he has magic powers and then has to attend an all girls witch school. In my mind I see Galifianakis being very creepy in a young girl's witching school, kind of the R-rated uncomfortable raunchy THE WORST WITCH. If that's what the flick is I'd be first in line. I love that kind of comedy and Galifianakis is pitch perfect for a character like that.
There's also still talk of a sequel to THE HANGOVER, which I'd love to see, too. As long as they don't try to redo the plot point of having the group black out for a night. That'd be awfully convenient and it's not needed. At this point just seeing Ed Helms, Galifianakis, Bradley Cooper and Justin Bartha together on a crazy, R-rated adventure is enough. At least thems my thoughts. Yours?
-Quint
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The characters and situations are the most important thing (heck, really just the characters) so it doesn't matter where you put em...they'll make it funny.
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Yes it is.
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Yah more money for the studios because the first was mediocre.
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So I'm excited about what other turd he can churn out!
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a sequel to the hangover... stupid and totally unnecessary. is this story just like a favor for galifianakis or something quint?
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not a single real person I have ever spoken with that saw the hangover thought it was anything less than brilliantly funny and hilarious. of course, in the twilight "I NEED ATTENTION" world of the AICN talkback, it's "shite".
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I'm betting that parts he used to be a shoo in for are now gonna go to Mr. Galifianakis.
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Really thats the type of film he needs. Juist him some drunks and a piano. Like Lenny Bruce or Andy.
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I like the way you've grouped The Hangover with Shawshank and Citizen Kane. Now what does that say about you and the people you know..!!!
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But this guy should pick his projects very carefully. Rogen and Ferrell did so much so quickly that very little of it actually resonates. This guy should take a page from Romany Malco's playbook. The cat was fantastic in 40 yr old virgin, and since then has worked steadily... but isn't burned out. So people aren't sick of his lame-ass improv schtick.
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Can cry into his OTT salary for a hundred thousand shitty Kung Fu Panda sequels.
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I never made any comparison between those movies, AND I never mentioned the latter two in relation to my friends.but at least you TRIED to read what I wrote. look, I understand being contrary to fish for attention in the talkbacks, I get it. but The Hangover? don't you feel dumb pretending the movie wasn't funny? is it really worth it just to get some attention?
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I found some funny bits in it, however the film is still pretty much rubbish. BTW I didn't say you 'compared' anything. I just found it interesting that you put a couple of greats with, what is, a lame movie in your reply. So in some way you do believe that The Hangover is that good!
but at least you TRIED to read what I wrote.
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I can't believe I'm explaining this, but here goes.the two movies I mentioned at the end I chose because they are, to my mind, movies that no rational person could argue aren't great movies. so it was an exaggeration used for a joke. the hangover was a movie that virtually EVERY person I've spoken with, EVERY reviewer on this site, (EVERY reviewer anywhere, actually) has loved and found hilarious. so to pretend it wasn't very good for attention represents, to me, a new height of the classic "I hate everything that other people enjoy" mentality of the AICN talkback troll.
I didn't say The Hangover was in the same league as those movies. and again, I can't believe I'm having to explain this, or even that I actually AM wasting time explaining it. it was a fucking joke...as is this nonversation, so I think I'm going to end it here.troll on, kiddo.
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i agree with Dood. There were a few funny bits but for the most part it was pretty weak. It's basically two good comedians (Helms and Galifianakis) struggling to make the best of a formulaic script (Helms comes out on top). To be honest I thought this was just Dude Where's My Car with better actors. To be brutally honest, I think anyone who champions this movie has a lame sense of humour. Rated #139 movie of all time on imdb? Give me a break.
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Look man. I stated my opinion on the movie not on you as a person. I didn't and haven't made any personal comments about you, however, you are making quite nasty comments about me and pretty much every talkbacker that doesn't like what you like or has a negative opinion. I take your point that you referenced two greats as a joke. I got it. However, not every critic liked the movie. I could mention a lot that didn't here in the UK, Mark Kermode being one. Stick to what you like about the movie and maybe you can win people over. Not what you don't like about a talkbacker you've never met or know anything about.
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Let's have a peek at in his next cinema outing. Burma Shave!
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you are a dumb fuck troll that got called out and dealt with. be gone.
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I like him, read his reviews, but often dont agree. Hes someone you go to for a review of Lars Von Trier or Dogme movies etc. Not mainstream fare such as this.. And Hangover was very good, clearly one of the years best comedies.
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I went into The Hangover with lowered expectations, as I had heard the rumblings of unfunniness (and hadn't even found anything remotely amusing in the trailer, let alone laughed). Unfortunately, it didn't even live up to those lowered standards. It just wasnt funny. It had a few mildly amusing moments. The Rain Man blackjack bit (although that had no payoff and just kind of petered out), when Helms finally confronts his wife, the "Wolf pack" speech. OVerall, it was just a simple formula: Cooper acts cool, Helms acts uptight and annoyed, and Galifiniakis blurts out some semi-retard non sequiter. Rinse, repeat. I know I'm alone on the island here, as I'm the only one I know (besides my wife) who didn't think it was funny (although the local DC/Baltimore reviews were lukewarm). I'm ok with that though, as most people are stupid and my taste is impeccable, so it's all good. If you liked it, awesome for you, congrats. Just be prepared for "Austin Powers 2" syndrome, where you laughed your ass off in the theater surrounded by other people, then watch it alone on DVD 6 months later and not laugh once.
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too many trolls on here (not actual trolls, the word's usage). Though, I can completely relate to the people seeking attention line mentioned on here. I'm gonna fuck this tiger.
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Sorry but seeing the guy transition from obscure comedian to family film/comedy/mainstream is disheartening. Inevitable, I know. But still disheartening. G-Force? Really, Zach? At least Bored to Death looks kinda interesting. But seeing him censor himself and quiet his humor for mainstream audiences sucks. I present to you the next Will Ferrell/Adam Sandler/Jon Heder, ladies and gentlemen. We'll tire of him soon enough. And he'll be replaced by another talent that's been tainted by obnoxious taste.
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especially the spot that this isn't a film that's going to stand up six months from now. the overwhelmingly positive response is pretty inexplicable. makes me think some sort of fratboy herd mentality is involved ("dude, i got sooo wasted last night!"). And just for the record, the comedies I find hilarious include Superbad, Knocked Up, 40 Year Old Virgin, Something About Mary, Ace Ventura -so it's not like I don't appreciate these kind of movies (although I thought Pineapple Express was fairly average)
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Not all people can find the same thing funny. Like tell some of skanks I know I tell these chick jokes to, like how many FEMINISTS does it take to change a light bulb? 2, one to change the lightbulb and the other to suck my boyfriends dick while I use my 12 inch strap-on to destroy her asshole!! but some of my hoe friends think that shit be "sexist" an shit. So fuck them. And if you did think the hangover was not funny, then you are a totally humorless asshole and go fuck yourself.
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If he's smart, he'll go the Giamatti route and build slowly on this tiny sliver of success. Good, funny,, supporting roles in quality comedies. If his next movie has his name above the title, we'll forget all about him in a few years. Mark my words, bitches!!!
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How could I be humorless if I found The Hangover unfunny? (Which I didn't. I'm just being a dick.) But doesn't that just mean that subjectively, the humor was not for me?
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from chud. Except the hangover guy wasn't a sicilian wop cunt fuckhead.
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Just Fucked My Logic!
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He must've had a chat with his pal David Cross, who's probably swimming in ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS cash.
CGI RODENTS EQUALS P-P-P-P-PAYDAY!!!
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Jul 07, 2009 7:24:20 AM CDT
And the award for next talkbacker banned goes to...
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
ChoclateWoman! Which would be unfortunate because I find retards amusing.
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and, sorry, Man-Witch sounds god-awful. But I'm certainly hoping for the best with Zach's career trajectory.
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What? That's the funniest thing I've ever read. The floor is yours.
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and Man-Witch sounds very marketable. Arby's. Spike plugs. I can see it now.
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I'm so late to this talk back and not one person is bitching about how there should be a Tim & Eric's Awesome Movie (Great Job). I'm very disappointed.
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A sequel would seem forced unless they come up w/ a really fresh premise. I can just see a script the lands them in Vegas or another city again, running into Tyson, the Asian guy, etc... The Hangover itself seems like a semi-sort of a sequel to Old School... (Bradley Cooper's character is just Vince Vaughn's character in a different setting). I hope they leave this one be.
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Unless it has a Fairuza Balk lesbo scene.
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Can't handle an opinionated woman, huh? Dickless nerd.
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about being a babysitter. funny person.
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I often marvel at how even astonishing surely unfaultable classics have their haters and i agree it's deemed cool by some to be a naysayer on a film everyone seems to like. But then it would be a dull world if everybody liked the same thing so i believe people are entitled to their opinions. If you don't like The Hangover your opinion is as valuable as those who love it. The thing that surprises me is that this is a film that could get such divided passionate argument. I saw Hangover, i enjoyed it i'll probably pick it up on DVD once it goes cheap (not a comment on the film, i only buy anything once it goes cheap). It made me laugh some but i don't understand the adulation for this movie. It wasn't that fresh as a story, it wasn't clever, personally i found it funny, with some great moments, but not hilarious. To be honest it reminded me of Wedding Crashers. I find it astounding that it has done $200m in the States and that it creates a passion that has people name calling about humourless idiots or easily pleased morons or such in a talkback. As i say it would be a dull world if everyone liked the same things, but it's interesting what become the catalysts for heated debate.
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he IS The Snuggler.
I'd rather see that than Spidey 4.
whatever. the world will end from the stupidity of 2012. Not the actual doomsday date. But the movie. It will be so god awful that it will cause anyone who sees it to kill themselves. This is what they Mayan's were warning us about. The movie...not the actual date.
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and have nobody acknowledge he's a he.
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Which episode? Wikipedia that shit.
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In the 60's they were just burning bra's and shit. Nowadays it seems they're getting their asshole smashed by some deranged chick who makes them suck her boyfriends cock. If that's the case, i'm all for feminism. It's more the racist comment that would offend some people. But like I said, I find retards amusing. So here's hoping you remain unbanned.
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A direct sequel is not needed and would always feel short. Maybe they could team up again for something new but in the same vein a la Shawn of the Dead/Hot Fuzz.
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saw it a few weeks ago and it is that forgettable.
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People used to enjoy finding out that one of their favorite movies is getting more time on the big screen in the form of a sequel. people used to get excited.
now because of an oversaturation of shitty sequels and sequels that aren't really sequels (but retain the name of the original) people just automatically hate any thought of a sequel to a movie.and a hangover sequel wouldn't be bad. herc said "them blacking out again would be a little convenient" and I wonder what's the problem with that? It's a summer comedy with a lot of "convenience". Wasn't it convenient that they didn't go to jail for stealing and wrecking a cop car? Wasn't it convenient that they found Tyson's house, stole his tiger (without being attacked), and got it into a hotel? Or how about winning all the money they needed in the end.......that was convenient as well.
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When the pitch for a movie makes me laugh out loud, there's got to be something there.
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It was funny! Was it the next Caddyshack? Not even close. Is it overhyped and overrated? Absolutely! The problem is that what passes for comedy these days is so bland that when something comes along that is mildly amusing people think it is hilarious. Case in point: Wedding Crashers, Knocked Up, Forgetting Sarah Marshal, Pineapple Express. I agree with the TBer who said that The Hangover was basically the same plot as Dude, Where's My Car? I thought the same thing. It should have been called Dude, Where's Our Groom? No need for a sequel.
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I found The Hangover a mixed bag. I didn't love it, I didn't hate it. My problem was with the last third of the movie, which felt dead in the water. I didn't find the Chinese gangster funny at all.
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Overrated doesn't necessarily mean bad.
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Except for Star Trek. The entire site gobbled JJ's cock for weeks (at least). And this flick as well.
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Baby Shower.
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The Abortion It's funny cause it's true.
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I'm not a fan of his stand-up. He worked in Hangover as a character in an ensemble, but don't see him as a star.
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Just want to echo an earlier comment and say: his presence is not particularly necessary.
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And stop with the "humor is subjective" bullshit. Funny is funny.
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There is no need for a sequel, no need to revisit these characters. Once again, Studios are putting greed above artistic integrity
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Like the premise, hate the title. Man-witch, if that's an intentional pun, it's just fucking retarded.
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do yourself a favor and check out this hilarious looking movie. it's pure zach galifianakis insanity.
http://www.visioneersthemovie.com/
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If anyone plans to accuse him of selling out due to his recent popularity they should take a look back at his career. He's always been someone who works in crap for money and continues with comedy. Boston Common, Corky Romano, Out Cold and now G-Force. G-force would have been recorded over a year ago so he would have had no idea what was coming his way. He's consistently calls himself out for being in crappy movies all the time during his act and will probably use this chance to make enough doing big paycheck things to continue doing the smaller things that mean more to him. As long as that is the case then I'm fine with him being someone's brother in Ice Age 3 or Jewel's manager in the live action film.
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before I saw "The Hangover" and... the Hangover didn't seem that funny, not because of the script, but because the direction and THE EDITING were not very finely crafted to swing that shit in your face in a slick enough way to be funny. The audience was kind of quiet, there were chuckles, and in about 3 parts there was genuine laughter. This was in Austin, TX. And the way Zach Gal. came off with this material was a poor attempt at a Bluto like character... hmmm... maybe I'm a "ritard"... maybe the whole theatre was filled with em. It wasn't like when I saw "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" or "Knocked Up"... needs a tighter edit. And better music supervision.
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Oops.....if he became Jewel's manager then I might have to give up on him.
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Or was it a duck...the one at the beginning
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I could see Jack Black in the role but it would be 10 times better to see Galifiankis.
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The you tube clip "Zach gets ready to watch Ellen" is a great work of art. It's also really fucking funny.
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It was a chicken. And you'll find out in the extended cut on the DVD. Along with the smoldering couch cushion.
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One thing i want to say is. I'm very surprised it's made the money it has though. I thought Land of the Lost was alot funnier.
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Must be the same fan base as Step Brothers.
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TAIRY GREENE'S ACTING SEMINAR FOR CHILDREN: THE MOVIE
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Before the first one even came out, thought up by Todd Phillips.
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. . . cause Step Brothers fans are just all OVER the place.
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If you couldn't enjoy it then your a horrible person.
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I've been a fan of his stand-up for a long time now. He's always been on the bubble of fame, without really breaking through. It was kind of a novelty to see him in a movie here and there. But, in 'The Hangover' he belonged. It was a terrific comedic performance. With shades of Belushi in 'Animal House'. Hopefully, he'll select future work that is suited to his style. I would hate to see him in some bullshit romcom. He's going to be in this HBO show, 'Bored to Death' with Jason Schwartzman. It looks like it could be good.
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Throwing 5000 random things at the screen and see what sticks. I will say, the Tyson part had crickets chirping in my theater. I could practically see the flop sweat up on the screen. Anything with Tyson in it did not get literally a single chuckle. And thats in a theater of people pumped to see it (everyone but me, of course). Taser scene? Crickets. Anything with the Chinese gangster? Crickets. When Helms sings the tiger song at the piano? Crickets. Any part with Zach G? Uproarious laughter.
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It's funny, it is not a classic. It IS slightly overrated but that just goes to show yu how many movies made recently are actually funny and can be mentioned in the same breath as the classics we all grew up quoting. We are all fucking drowning here and movies like The Hangover are just temporary life preservers. It's not original by any step of the imagination but looks original compared to a Starsky and Hutch movie. Fuck Hollywood! Let it burn! Unoriginal cocksuckers
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Color me horrible. I found it mildly amusing at best. I think this movie suffers from "Creed At The Height Of The P-Diddy Rap Scene Syndrome": being overhyped and overloved because its the only thing out there and there's no other option, and then everyone looks back from 2 years later and goes "Hmmmm....WTF?".
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CARLOS!
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Just for that, for not making a shitty re-run of some shitty re-run, he has immediately jumped up in the top tiers of my 'Must See' list of directors. Keep daring to be creative, my director friend.
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How about some reviews on those DVD's that get sent to you for free for the sole purpose of you reviewing them and giving them pops on your website.
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...those awesome BETWEEN TWO FERNS segments over at FunnyOrDie.com, I'll be happy. Him asking Natalie Portman if she "shaves her 'V For Vagina'" was absolutely priceless.
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Galifinakis is genius.
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You guys who are saying The Hangover wasn't funny, enlighten us as to what is, please.
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Also, it's been a shitty last couple weeks for new DVD releases. Numbers?! I can't even remember what last weeks big dvd was.
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How come no one ever mentions that he was in Tru Calling? That was the first thing I ever saw him in, and he was GREAT! So so so funny! Love him!
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...was a pretty painful experience. I love Paul Rudd, but that was just about as unfunny as they come. The Visioneers looks right up my alley though. I heard about this around a year ago, and have been actively seeking it out. His Seth Galifianakis character is great too.
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Will Ferrell was perfect in Old School... not always the focus, but stole almost every scene. Great in smaller doses. Since then, overexposed. Zach G would be better utilized in comedies exactly as he was in "The Hangover". I don't think you'd want to build a movie around him.
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Jul 07, 2009 12:23:39 PM CDT
and yes I am of course aware that Old School and Hangover had th
by jjwalrus
Hangover feels like the closest thing to an Old School sequel we will ever get. At the very least they feel like very close cousins in the same universe.
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It was GOOD. There's been 5 comedies in the past year or two that buried it. But the phenomenon is baffling to me. But then again, "Meet the Fockers" was also a phenomenon and Jay Leno is huge, so nothing surprises me anymore about the comedic tastes of the great unwashed. Although how these moviegoers can laugh while their mouth is full of the hot dogs, candy, cheese nachos, pizza and soda they load up on is beyond me. Seriously, why does every family of fatties that looks like they could barely afford the movie ticket proceed to drop $50+ bucks more on that crappy movie theater food? And don't even get me started on the texting and talking.
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And should have been doing alot more since then so lets hope he gets the attention he deserves and becomes bigger then Will Ferrell!!!!!!
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That would mean that he will have to start making crap that is worse then what Will Ferrell makes. I hope Zach just keep getting side kick roles. His type of humor works in small doses and is not for the masses, the first BIG movie he helms will probably tank.
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Can someone, and this is a serious question, explain to me why people are always bagging on Devin and Chud? I'm not defending him, I just don't visit that site that much so I'm not in on whatever it is that apparently makes him such an asshole. I've just been wondering for awhile cuz I constantly see people bag on him in the TB's
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Nothin' like seeing a rapist sharing his fond memories of a pedophile.
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Jul 07, 2009 1:30:09 PM CDT
Will it involve Ruffies? will they African-American out?
by ashesofdonnie
...I hate the Rev Al Sharpton, but he is giving a good eulogy!
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AWESOME! I wish more people would realize the Jackson was clearly a mentally ill pedophile. This whole thing is messed up. The world celebrates a pedophile's life, the black community worships a dude who hated being black. WTF is going on?
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And Roman Polanski raped an underage girl, Lewis Carroll took nude pix of underage girls, Miles Davis was a vicious beater of women, Elvis was a racist, the list goes on and on. It's about separating the art from the artist. Michael Jackson broke down racial barriers on a global scale not just musically but the message of his art and add that to the millions upon millions he donated to charity (even in death), some would even argue he was instrumental in paving the way for the first black president in the U.S. Just like the artists I already mentioned(and many more like them) if we dismissed all art based on whether or not their respective artists lived 'socially acceptable lives," many of the greatest works and messages of art in all genres throughout the ages would disappear and the world would be a far lesser place for it.
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if he says Jackson wasn't strange. The hell he wasn't! Anyone who has that much plastic surgury is strange, black, white, man, or woman.
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Just pointing out the irony of having Kobe Bryant eulogize him.
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on TBS five times a weekend. Just like Old School...At least there was no Vince Vaughn, or Will Farrell cameo.More great Zach..his "Acting For Kids" bit on Tim & Eric. The trouble with Hangover is that Zach played the goofy lovable man-child blob. The great thing about his stand up is that there is anger bubbling under the surface that will surface unexpectably. Yes, I know, that wasn't his character. But if you want blobby man-child why not cast Will Sasso or the new guy from SNL..? I found it enjoyable, but not the "comedy event of the year!!!!".
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At least The Hangover took the bare bones of a plot and filled it in with character types. Those sound like "wacky" pitch ideas...
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If you have not seen it i really recommend watching it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlPZq8llJJ4&feature=fvst
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like the Chevy Chase Vacation movies. the whole families together in a couple of Winebaagos or something. AND don't even call it Hangover 2. Give it a whole new title...just the same Gang. Hell they could even cross worlds with Old School gang for a few mitutes. -Get me an agent.!
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I guess to that point I was addressing JJ's comment about "the world celebrating a pedophile." And my point was everyone who has enjoyed a Roman Polanski film or even Tim Burton's upcoming 100 million dollar plus take-off of ALICE IN WONDERLAND could also be said the same thing. This is nothing new. (That's assuming you believe the allegations about MJ.) As to Kobe, he was never convicted of rape, and these are again just allegations. You aren't a celebrity I assume. They have women throwing themselves at them all the time. The girl Kobe allegedly 'raped' had multiple semen samples from different guys in her underwear when tested, this was not the "Virgin Mary" we're talking about here. Just like Mike Tyson. If a girl goes up to a celebrities' room late at night (Tyson) or after her shift ended (Kobe), it's a little naive to think they want to play backgammon, no? No means no, of course. But did that really happen?I don't know. But neither do any of us. I wasn't there either and neither were you, but don't you think just maybe you could entertain the idea that these women made these claims for different reasons like...oh, I don't now...MILLIONS OF DOLLARS! Don't be so quick to judge.
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too much judging and cynical people these days.
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Jul 07, 2009 2:47:20 PM CDT
if a bum did the same things MJ is alleged to have done
by itrainmonkeys
nobody would think twice about locking that asshole up. But since Jackson wrote Thriller it's okay and we shouldn't judge a public figure.......right guys?
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The same media that condemned him for his sleep-overs with young kids and saw him as a threat to his kids now sees him as a commendable figure, one of humanity's best. I don't know, it seems hypocritical on the media's part, but I guess that's nothing new. I don't know if Jackson was guilty or not. There are people certainly who want to make money off celebrities, if given the chance. But Jackson also didn't protect himself against allegations as he continued his sleep-overs with young kids. Yet he did want to defend his suspicious behavior after allegations were made.
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but there was just as much contrived humor as there was wit. The animal in the backseat gag, the obscure celebrity cameo, man ass, etc. But the premise (yeah yeah it is a bit like Dude, Where's My Car? but not identical) won me over. I loved the opening, and Zach kicking the cell phone out of the kid's hand and the look on the kid's face is fucking priceless. I liked it a little less than I anticipated but that's mostly because of the retreading of several gags that have been in many comedies over the years. I understand the hate and it's amazing that's it's done so well. What's weird is the fact that people who don't like it are being called humorless. Really? You're going to chastise someone because they don't like a movie "everyone else" likes? That's creepy. It's just not everyone's cup of tea so fuck it.
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He interviews Natalie Portman. Wait for the V FOR VENDETTA question. http://tinyurl.com/cf4dqp
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I'm far from a Michael Jackson apologist but the U.S. Constitution says that you are innocent until proven guilty. None of us were there, none of us can judge.
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but that doesn't mean she wanted to be treated like a piece of meat and brutally anally raped from an animal who couldn't control itself. Bottom line: if Kobe was completely innocent he wouldn't have settled out of court and paid the chick off.
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My mother is a bar owner, and is on occasion the victim of frivolous lawsuits. A guy has a little too much to drink, falls on the sidewalk outside the bar and sues, etc. She has found it to be much cheaper to settle out of court, than to go to trail. In these big money cases, lawyers can make more than the settlement even if the accused is found not guilty. And being dragged through a long public trial. Cases can go years before a trial date. What do tou think the laywers are doing during that time?
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Good stuff.
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Elvis was a racist? Since when?
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Were you there? Plus, where did you get that the sex was anal? Link please? It was from behind but that doesn't necessarily mean anal. And as far as settling out of court goes, it becomes about money, does it cost more to pay the person off vs. how much will you lose in endorsements and lawyer fees in a lengthy drawn out, embarrassing trial.
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There is an ongoing debate, particularly in the black community as to whether or not Elvis was indeed a racist and was guilty of ever uttering the infamous phrase which is debatedly attributed to him, “The only thing [offensive black people slang] can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes.” I'm not saying whether or not Elvis ever did indeed say this, because again, just like the MJ allegations, I wasn't there, and just like the MJ allegations, there is no concrete proof, but my overall point was art vs. public perception. I'll withdraw that particular example from my thesis if you like as admittedly it is the weakest of the others which do have documented proof (Davis's victim's injuries, Carrol's photographs, etc.) But to give you an example of how the idea of Elvis as a racist has permeated the popular consciousness, consider this lyric by Public Enemy in "Fight the Power" from the movie, DO THE RIGHT THING,- "Elvis, was a hero to most/ but he never meant sh** to me / see straight up racist / the sucker was simple and plain / motherf*** him and John Wayne!"
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Of him ever saying that remark. In fact, they could only find black people who knew him that said he liked and respected black musicians. And Chuck D actually apologized for demonizing Elvis that way and is now an admitted fan of the man (Wayne still is a racist).
Not ripping into you, I just always here that rumor about the King and feel it is such a bad, unearned rep. You can rip into the man for being a fatso, a pill head and for basing his Vegas look on Captain Marvel Jr., but he wasn't a racist. -
Isn't it pretty well understood that the UK and the US have differing views on comedy?For example, I'd say the majority of the people that like the Office (US) would hate Office (UK) and I know that works vice versa.Mr. Bean is practically knighted in the UK, here he never got his cred.
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Example respectfully withdrawn. Overall thesis, however, still stands.
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Just swap out my Elvis reference for documented racist John Wayne. How many people are going to stop watching RIO BRAVO or TRUE GRIT because of Wayne's faults?
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apples and oranges. Someone's personal viewpoint, as wrong as it may be, is not the same as someone physically affecting another (still not proven). Racism =/= pedophilia.
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But we love his greatest hits, no? We just celebrated his best work 3 days ago. Lighten up, people.
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Didn't TJ have a slave girlfriend?
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Jul 07, 2009 4:59:30 PM CDT
Is there any TB that doesn't become about Racism anymore?
by wickedjester
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However, Jackson was never convicted in a court of law and niether was Kobe, Carrol's and Polanski's pedophilia are well documented as is Davis's abuse of women(and James Brown's for that matter) as is the racism of John Wayne. BUT. My point was not to compare the damage done of racism vs. pedophilia (you are absolutely right, there's no contest) my overall point was, as I said, there are artists guilty of various heinous acts either in a court of law or in the court of public opinion whom if we were to get rid of every piece of art made by artists with said skeletons in their closets we would lose amazing and beyond numerous treasured works.
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AGED HEAT 2: WOMEN IN HEAT
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And where do we draw the line? Oh that musician did/does drugs. Thats illegal and harmful. That director's been alledged to be a wife beater. Hey! That guy ran a stop sign once!!
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Jul 07, 2009 5:10:42 PM CDT
In response to the "Well what do YOU think is funny??" guy......
by gooseud
First of all, no one is dumb enough to answer that, as all it will be is a "HA!! You think _____ is funnier then The Hangover?? Loser!! Retard!!" pissing contest of epic proportions. However, I'll bite, it's a slow day. You know what I personally think is funny? Airplane. That movie is really really funny.
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specifically the humour of the bouncing tits in the turbulence.
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Not only did he bang Sally Hemings, he procreated with her. And she was also his half-sister-in-law to boot.
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in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...Fanboys.Predictable.
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and I thank you. Huge Duckman fan. I don't think I've seen that one before. Must watch.
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I'm not looking for an internet fight (I'm not a 18-year-old know it all... I'm a 35-year-old know it all), I'm always interested in getting a baseline comparison for people when they claim one thing is funny and another isn't.
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But I LIKED Elvis' Captain Marvel getup!
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But I also like Cheech and Chong's Up In Smoke.
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Where the hell did you see the movie? At a drive-in theatre out in the middle of a field of crickets? Were you alone? Maybe you live a fucked up town where the people all have some physical ailment and can't actually produce laughs?
Regardless, playing the "my theatre had less laughs in it than yours did so the movie that's made over $200 million CAN'T be funny" game is always amusing. -
Are there people out there who DON'T like Up In Smoke?
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Wooooow.
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I did too. The idea of a karate fighting, fat, pill popping rockabilly singer dressed up like Captain Marvel Jr is something that makes me realize what a wonderful world we live in.
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I've been on TBs where people rip into it. Fine. Not every bodies taste. But I laugh my ass off every time I think of Struther Martin saying "That Finkelsteen-shit-kid!"
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as her TRANSFORMERS audition.
From http://perezhilton.com/page/4/
The only transformation Michael Bay should be concerned with now is the one he took from geeky teenager to disgusting, douchey perv!
Apparently, the Transformer's director had Megan Fox complete a rather unorthodox audition at his house. A source reports that Bay "made her wash his Ferrari while he filmed her."
What?! Ewwwww!!!!
When asked about this unseen footage, Bay claims "[I] don't know where it is."
Sure, sure. Bet if we check your bedroom DVD player we'd find it!
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All his wives were Mexican.He showed Roscoe Lee Browne how to get off the chuckwagon in THE COWBOYS so it would look like he'd been doing it his whole life. They sat around between takes reciting Shakespeare together. Roscoe was still speaking fondly of him on the DVD extras 30 years later.Did he say a few stupid things about native American and Black activists in a Playboy Interview back in the 60's? Sure. Some of his statements come off harsher in print then he intended them to sound.Elvis Costello is one of the least racist people on the planet but some race baiting cracks he made to piss off Bonnie Bramlett and Stephen Stills in a bar in 1978 are still haunting him 30 years later too.
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...the crappy "G-Force". Oh Zach (And Will Arnett), why do such a shyte paycheck gig?
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"Am I the only one tired of this Ben Franklin motherfucker? Electricity...what the fuck is he talking about?"
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Zach is a total legend! I can't wait to see more of his stuff! Looks like Jack Black's got some serious competition!!
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as her TRANSFORMERS audition.
Don't tell me you did not know it. -
You're absolutely spot on. There are differences, however, the problem with Hangover is not just the humour, I just think it's a rubbish film. Just so you know, I really liked Something About Mary, 40 Year old Virgin, Ace Ventura, Napolean Dynamite and many more, so I'm not being a snob and american humour, when done well in a good movie, comes across very well.
BTW: I saw Transformers 2 last night on the IMAX. Wow, that movie sucked soooooo much! Soul-less dogshit is the only way to describe it. -
nah, saw it at a generic mall theater, about 80% full. Perhaps people laughed more in your theater, I dont know. Just givin you an idea of my theater, which was giving 30% of the jokes the total stoneface (shrugs) it is what it is, bu just sayin, its not like I was sitting in a room full of people laughing uproariously. An example of people rollng in the aisles with laughter? Borat, when I saw that opening night.
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Man, that sounds awkward and fun. It reminds me of an old RPG tabletop game we used to play where one PC ran a Lizard Man who "wanted to learn his letters" but didnt want to let the party know, but he had a lot of money, so he enrolled in this school and it was for anyone who could pay (usually the wealthy). So, there were funny visuals of a 7 foot tall lizard man sitting in a little desk in a room with a bunch of kid students. Good times.
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