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First 10 'Best Picture' Nominations...Now The Possibility Of No Original Song Oscars??


Merrick here...

Last week we learned the slots for 'Best Picture' Oscar nominations were being doubled from 5 to 10 (details HERE).

Now comes word that more changes are in the wind for the venerable institution : one in terms of telecast pacing, and one that may carry dramatic implications for the 'Best Song' category.

Timothy M. Gray over at Variety has posted THIS interesting piece about adjustments now being made to Oscar rules/voting.

The music branch annually conducts a "bake-off" in which voters see clips of eligible songs as they are used in each film. The voters then rate a song on a scale of 6 to 10. Under the new ruling, if no song earns 8.25, there will be no nominations. If at least one hits that magic number, it will be nominated, as will the second-highest scorer.

(Previous rules had specified three to five nominees, and the new rules say the category will still max out at five.)

The bake-off was an earnest attempt to ensure that a song's contribution to a film was more important than diskery sales, since pop-rock singer-songwriters have increasingly become a presence in a film's score, much to the consternation of some music branch members.

But the bake-off limited the voting pool (you couldn't vote without seeing these clips) and worked to the disadvantage of songs that summed up the mood and ideas of the film but were played during closing credits. (Bruce Springsteen's "The Wrestler" and Eddie Vedder's song from "Into the Wild" were two recent examples of closing-credits songs that were shut out.)

In short: the scoring system for nominating songs has changed, which could theoretically result in NO 'Best Song' nominations in a particular year.

Also, what my father once referred to as "The Grand Old Geezer Awards" will no longer be presented during the actual Oscar telecast. Says Gray/Variety:

The other move was the board's decision to present the "testimonial" awards -- the Thalberg nod to filmmakers, the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award and the honorary Oscars for career excellence -- at a black-tie event in November for 500 invited guests, rather than presenting them on the Oscarcast.




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Remember when they killed the category so South Park
by chrth
Jun 29th, 2009
10:36:21 AM
sounds stupid
by TheMcflyFarm
Jun 29th, 2009
10:36:21 AM
south park WAS nominated
by TheMcflyFarm
Jun 29th, 2009
10:37:19 AM
Fine with me
by ricarleite2
Jun 29th, 2009
10:39:22 AM
Southpark
by Alientoast
Jun 29th, 2009
10:40:15 AM
TheMcflyFarm: That was my point
by chrth
Jun 29th, 2009
10:40:31 AM
Stan Lee's Role in 'Iron Man 2' Revealed Larry King!
by Stanbee54321
Jun 29th, 2009
10:41:37 AM
It occured to me that some people might not have been here
by chrth
Jun 29th, 2009
10:47:28 AM
Sad
by c4andmore
Jun 29th, 2009
10:47:58 AM
Blame Canada was not only nominated but it was performed
by Big Jim
Jun 29th, 2009
10:48:46 AM
AINT IT POST IT TWO DAYS AFTER NIKKE FINKE DOES NEWS
by FuckMichaelBay
Jun 29th, 2009
10:49:55 AM
Will Michael Jackson be nominated next year?
by ricarleite2
Jun 29th, 2009
10:51:30 AM
Yes, because the Best Original Song category is what's wrong wit
by brokentusk
Jun 29th, 2009
10:51:40 AM
How about...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
10:52:12 AM
I think this is meant to save everyone....
by TheOracle
Jun 29th, 2009
10:52:26 AM
i remember at the 1994 oscars..
by Bouncy X
Jun 29th, 2009
10:53:19 AM
I don't know...
by wampa 1
Jun 29th, 2009
10:53:50 AM
... with the show.
by brokentusk
Jun 29th, 2009
10:53:51 AM
How about...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
10:54:02 AM
No original
by CuervoJones
Jun 29th, 2009
10:57:56 AM
How about...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
10:58:43 AM
I LIKE The Grand Old Geezer Awards!
by cymbalta4thedevil
Jun 29th, 2009
10:59:03 AM
and another thing....
by TheOracle
Jun 29th, 2009
11:05:22 AM
yeah I always liked Best Song
by CherryValance
Jun 29th, 2009
11:10:59 AM
All future montages...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
11:15:03 AM
How About getting rid of the presenters' banter?
by Big Jim
Jun 29th, 2009
11:16:41 AM
good, get rid of this category
by Stifler's Mom
Jun 29th, 2009
11:17:30 AM
GREAT idea
by Logan_1973
Jun 29th, 2009
11:22:53 AM
I like this idea actually
by Bass Ackwards
Jun 29th, 2009
11:23:17 AM
Red Ned Lynch, the last thing I want to see is any
by Big Jim
Jun 29th, 2009
11:23:24 AM
c4andmore
by TheBlackKnight
Jun 29th, 2009
11:49:12 AM
How about a preliminary
by Stile
Jun 29th, 2009
12:09:58 PM
Eliminate the Best Animated Feature Category
by The_Myhand
Jun 29th, 2009
12:10:32 PM
Ok, I second the emotion to f*ck this primitive message board
by Stile
Jun 29th, 2009
12:11:36 PM
Eliminate the Best Animated Feature Category
by The_Myhand
Jun 29th, 2009
12:11:47 PM
OSCARS? YAWWWWWWWWWWWN
by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOK EN
Jun 29th, 2009
12:15:29 PM
Thank the gods.
by rbatty024
Jun 29th, 2009
12:16:05 PM
What's the next shitty change?
by Shermdawg
Jun 29th, 2009
12:16:26 PM
Stupid, stupid Oscars
by D.Vader
Jun 29th, 2009
12:21:03 PM
Why rate 6-10? Why not 1-5?
by D.Vader
Jun 29th, 2009
12:22:05 PM
I should recant...
by D.Vader
Jun 29th, 2009
12:25:01 PM
Strangely, I'm okay with this.
by OBSD
Jun 29th, 2009
12:25:19 PM
The problem with the best animated film category...
by rbatty024
Jun 29th, 2009
12:26:09 PM
Big Jim...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
12:34:54 PM
I'm still pissed about THE WRESTLER
by manifestchaos
Jun 29th, 2009
12:35:24 PM
You know all the decision they make based on
by CherryValance
Jun 29th, 2009
12:37:22 PM
Persepolis was screwed way harder than TDK
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 29th, 2009
12:48:52 PM
What about
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
12:59:41 PM
D.Vader
by ricarleite2
Jun 29th, 2009
01:03:29 PM
Cutting out the worst thing about the Oscars?
by Heckles
Jun 29th, 2009
01:05:50 PM
When was Persepolis
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
01:07:10 PM
Cutting the Thalberg award out is a mistake
by YackBacker
Jun 29th, 2009
01:15:32 PM
I'm fine with this.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 29th, 2009
01:19:42 PM
Good riddance
by smackfu
Jun 29th, 2009
01:20:44 PM
no best original song GOOD!!!!
by aclockworkkebab
Jun 29th, 2009
01:20:49 PM
"Voice of Oscar's America"?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 29th, 2009
01:24:04 PM
BEST USE OF A SONG OSCAR
by aclockworkkebab
Jun 29th, 2009
01:24:16 PM
Here's an idea:
by Christopher3
Jun 29th, 2009
01:24:18 PM
The Thalberg/Jean Hersholt awards are frequently the LAST time a
by Margot_Tenenbaum
Jun 29th, 2009
01:30:11 PM
no honorary oscars? man, that sucks
by BMacSmith
Jun 29th, 2009
01:36:24 PM
Yes, Christopher3
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 29th, 2009
01:38:25 PM
Best Original Screenplay
by Amazing Maurice
Jun 29th, 2009
01:41:45 PM
MY HEART cannot GO ON without an original song...
by FlickaPoo
Jun 29th, 2009
01:50:21 PM
The Oscars lost me when the added the Designated Hitter.
by AzulTool
Jun 29th, 2009
01:51:54 PM
when THEY added...shit
by AzulTool
Jun 29th, 2009
01:52:55 PM
I haven't watched the Oscars in the past several years
by IndyCollector
Jun 29th, 2009
02:09:09 PM
Oh, I hope this passes
by Organs
Jun 29th, 2009
02:13:09 PM
Oscars is like MTV movie awards. Predictable crud.
by Damien Chowder
Jun 29th, 2009
02:16:55 PM
YEAH THAT"S WHAT WE NEED! LONG ASS MONTAGES
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
02:38:02 PM
This ISNT a shitty change
by RipperGiles
Jun 29th, 2009
02:41:43 PM
Oscars
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
02:44:46 PM
Fuckin' lockesbrokenleg
by Al Swearengen
Jun 29th, 2009
02:46:01 PM
How come best visual effects
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
02:46:21 PM
Song needs to go...
by ScoreKeeper
Jun 29th, 2009
02:47:31 PM
Never understood the problem with being over running time
by smackfu
Jun 29th, 2009
02:52:36 PM
Also how did The Bourne Ultimatum
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
02:52:59 PM
How about Best Score and ONE best Song awarded
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
02:55:23 PM
The Oscahs have never been same...
by bswise
Jun 29th, 2009
03:12:18 PM
Couldn't they just solve everything by...
by JacksParasites
Jun 29th, 2009
03:34:33 PM
on a scale of 6-10??
by Spice-Orange
Jun 29th, 2009
03:38:08 PM
Wanna shorten the show?
by Rocklover79
Jun 29th, 2009
03:39:03 PM
Do a two hour Oscar. One Hour is the red carpet
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
03:40:55 PM
There shouldn't be an Oscar for "Best Song" anyway
by jawsfan
Jun 29th, 2009
03:43:09 PM
No awards for the key grip!!!
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
03:45:05 PM
And stop dissing Three Six Mafia
by Rocklover79
Jun 29th, 2009
03:45:52 PM
Don't care for the songs anyway
by REVENGE_of_FETT
Jun 29th, 2009
04:04:46 PM
Did no-one see this coming?
by Timstuff
Jun 29th, 2009
04:08:37 PM
Don't get rid of the lifetime achievement awards!
by Royston Lodge
Jun 29th, 2009
04:26:34 PM
I'd also like to see an award for "audacity".
by Royston Lodge
Jun 29th, 2009
04:27:58 PM
Best Title Design/ Best Title Sequence
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
04:49:20 PM
BEST FONT USED IN A TITLE SEQUENCE
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
04:56:30 PM
lockesbrokenleg
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
05:15:45 PM
And Helvetica would win hands down
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
05:16:48 PM
I like how most movies these days just drop the title
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
05:20:18 PM
Hey, when it works it works.
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
05:25:07 PM
I know I'll get shit for this, but I liked the title
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
05:51:08 PM
The Pizza Rule
by RaRoMo
Jun 29th, 2009
06:05:16 PM
Can we see more of the after parties?
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
06:06:26 PM
RaRoMo
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
06:12:47 PM
Continentalop
by RaRoMo
Jun 29th, 2009
06:18:53 PM
JacksParasites: Casablanca won Best Picture in 1943.
by Rev. Slappy
Jun 29th, 2009
06:28:26 PM
3 words - Oscar Winner Eminem.
by JuanSanchez
Jun 29th, 2009
06:28:32 PM
Best titles or most inventive credits would be nice.
by JuanSanchez
Jun 29th, 2009
06:30:03 PM
Best Titles cat. WTF?
by Logan_1973
Jun 29th, 2009
06:32:46 PM
Why not Best Tittles?
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
06:46:32 PM
"Tittles" WTF is a "Tittles"
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
06:49:58 PM
Best title or credits.
by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad
Jun 29th, 2009
07:22:51 PM
How irrelevant are the oscars now?
by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad
Jun 29th, 2009
07:39:12 PM
Name a movie about jews or gays that won best picture
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
08:00:08 PM
Movies about messed up babes always win
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
08:10:53 PM
Why raise the bar for songs but lower it for best picture?
by Flim Springfield
Jun 29th, 2009
09:06:49 PM
I approve of a Best Titties category.
by Flim Springfield
Jun 29th, 2009
09:09:03 PM
I think the biggest problem with the Oscars
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
09:38:11 PM
Dumbest Motherfucker Category
by My_IQ_is_135
Jun 29th, 2009
09:52:20 PM
Continentalop
by ScoreKeeper
Jun 29th, 2009
10:11:13 PM
And if thinking of End Title Sequences
by ScoreKeeper
Jun 29th, 2009
10:14:19 PM
Best Emotionally Uplifting Montage
by cylon_conspiracy
Jun 29th, 2009
10:16:03 PM
Best Snarky Indie Film Made for and by hipsters
by cylon_conspiracy
Jun 29th, 2009
10:19:31 PM
Lemony Snicket's end titles were the best ever
by D.Vader
Jun 29th, 2009
10:25:56 PM
Best Scooby Doo ending
by CherryValance
Jun 29th, 2009
10:27:23 PM
I'd LOVE to have a "Best Title Sequence" category
by Nasty In The Pasty
Jun 29th, 2009
10:33:07 PM
nasty
by dalbatron
Jun 29th, 2009
10:43:22 PM
Coolest ass Slow Mo Bullet sequence!
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
11:01:10 PM
Ehhh, meh, yeah, weird
by Jaka
Jun 29th, 2009
11:01:43 PM
Most Blankest performance, most overrated Pixar movie
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
11:08:03 PM
Scorekeeper
by Continentalop
Jun 30th, 2009
12:20:57 AM
axel fff
by Continentalop
Jun 30th, 2009
12:22:55 AM
at first...
by thegimik
Jun 30th, 2009
12:33:08 AM
The Day the Oscars Died
by DrMorbius
Jun 30th, 2009
12:37:52 AM
I hope Purple Rain wins best song
by The_Ritty
Jun 30th, 2009
01:17:05 AM
but seriously
by The_Ritty
Jun 30th, 2009
01:19:17 AM
I Hope the KILL the Song category all together!
by NightAvatar
Jun 30th, 2009
07:38:53 AM
Why wasn't America, Fuck Yeah
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jun 30th, 2009
07:46:41 AM
Best Title? Really?
by ricarleite2
Jun 30th, 2009
09:49:44 AM
End Title Sequences
by Series7
Jun 30th, 2009
10:11:45 AM
Hmmm. Sounds shitty
by Lou C.
Jun 30th, 2009
10:58:55 AM
continentalop: saul bass and the smarty ants
by Raymond Shaw
Jun 30th, 2009
01:03:00 PM
But Scorekeeper...
by Logan_1973
Jun 30th, 2009
02:39:15 PM
Continentalop, I didn't mean the movies
by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad
Jun 30th, 2009
03:06:50 PM
lookit who's in the Academy
by CherryValance
Jun 30th, 2009
03:37:43 PM
Most over-rated Pixar?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 30th, 2009
05:32:54 PM
And I was looking forward to...
by Triple_J_72
Jun 30th, 2009
05:53:26 PM
When are the Oscar people going to realize
by thelordofhell
Jun 30th, 2009
06:17:37 PM

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