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This Article About The Script For JJ's STAR TREK Movie Tells You About Stuff That Got Cut From The Film, Changed, Etc!!

Merrick here...
To date, we've heard many hints and suggestions about material and ideas deleted from Abrams' STAR TREK. Some of the sequences in question were definitely shot. Others? Guess we'll have to wait for the DVD/Blu-Rays to see what's there. TNMC managed to get their hands on a script for the film. This impresses me, as I've been trying to snag a copy for ages and the damn thing was locked down tighter than that prudishly hot girl I never managed to score with during my Freshman year of college. She tasked me. She tasked me... The write-up doesn't fcenter on the script (wouldn't be much point in that now), instead focusing on sequences, scene extensions, and subplots that were written but didn't make it to the screen. Stuff like: Klingon War Birds, Rura Penthe, Captain James T. Kirk (Shatner), and more. While some of this has already been discussed elsewhere by Team Abrams, theres's a touch more detail in this article than we've heard many places & it's probably worth glancing over. Read it HERE!


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  • June 29, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Great!

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Another Star Trek Thread for Us to Argue In!

  • June 29, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Hope they make it to the Blu-ray...

    by irishraidersfan

    I wanna know what Nero did for 25 years! Hopefully not fiddle while Vulcan burned... Geddit?

  • June 29, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    That was a terrific review

    by JohnAdcox

    Many props for taking the time to type it all up. Well done.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    fourth!

    by iwasredempted

  • June 29, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Please no "Tits Out For Attention Girl" next weekend!

    by NeilF

  • June 29, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    yeah motherfucker. can you fill that. huh!

    by iwasredempted

  • June 29, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    STAR TREK was weak

    by Stifler's Mom

    the reviews on this site got me all worked up for a masterpiece that never happened. the movie i saw was just OK, with shaky logic, decent action, and flat humor.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the link.

    by vic twenty

    I hope the Klingon stuff finds its way back in - still the most fun had at the theater this year!

  • June 29, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    i meant feel. goddammit.

    by iwasredempted

    i picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Was it scribbled in faeces on a wall somewhere?

    by V'Shael

    Because that's what it felt like on screen.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Not a bad story...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    Some interesting stuff; but as the article said, most of that will end up as DVD extras.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Ideas were deleted from Abrams Trek

    by kwisatzhaderach

    They certainly were. This was a Star Trek for monkeys.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Needs more GIANT PIG

    by GIANT_PIG

    GIANT PIG!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    I tried the link...

    by TheTRUESuperDuperMan

    but it doesn't work for me...maybe it's overloaded?

  • June 29, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    I tried the link...

    by TheTRUESuperDuperMan

    but it doesn't work for me...maybe it's overloaded?

  • June 29, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    What Stifler's Mom said...

    by Cory849

    I sort of agree. I enjoyed it when I saw it because the novelty of the whole - no pun intended, honestly - enterprise was fun and interesting. But the story itself was truly ridiculous. I think that lingers with people and as they remember the film and the novelty fades, stuff like that bugs them more. But by that time the box office is in the bank, so whatever.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    It's out. It's over. It's done. Enough.

    by IndyCollector

    How much longer will AICN continue to post "articles" about Star Trek to kiss JJ's ass?

  • June 29, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    www.NukeTheFridge.com is saying that Stan Lee is Larry King in..

    by Stanbee54321

    Iron Man 2

  • June 29, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    I didn't know it was Star Trek

    by ClarenceBeaks

    Thought I was watching Star Wars. Look at it. The comparisons are there. The writers sure knew where to look when they wanted to rip off something. At least they picked a classic.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    i dont get the "annoyance" of this movie

    by Bouncy X

    all these people complaining that AICN is "sucking J.J.s dicks". its a geek movie, a star trek movie no less and its a huge success. OF COURSE they will post constant articles about it. if you didnt like the movie fine, but to complain about all the articles is mentally difficient. if the articles were about a movie you liked/loved than nobody would complain. oh i know i know..."eventually it would get old even with something i liked" but yeah. anyway the link doesnt work for me either.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    They could've just run it through

    by kabong

    the DumbDown(TM) software. <P> It's the latest application from the makers of Make-It-Stupid(TM). <P> The software automatically filters screenplays and deletes anything smart. <P> With skilled tweaking of parameters, characterization can be simplified to the selected level of banality. <P> Before "The Transformers" script was treated by DumbDown(TM), only four genius people would have enjoyed the movie and it would have only made $40. <P> A Professionals version will impose a standard template that will direct the director when to shake the camera. <P> Look for DumbDown(TM) at a craprogramming shop near you.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    i liked it. you can tell he understood all the tropes..

    by iwasredempted

    honestly when there was a shot of vulcan as spock went to rescue his mother and it reminded me of the shatner fighting the gorn set i wondered if it was deliberate. it was a really good high throttled episode of shatner trek. am i drunk or does anybody else get this. the movie was brash, dumb, intelligent, melodramatic and entertaining. that is shatner trek to me. and this is coming from a star wars fan and apologist. i liked the prequels. so fuck you all.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Bouncy

    by cutest_of_borg

    Why the annoyance, you ask? Because this is AICN - the home of repressed dicks worldwide who love to be contrary to what is widely considered to be good and cool.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Haters of this movie prove...

    by Nickn328

    That no matter how widely accepted and even loved a movie is, people will ALWAYS have to stand out and go "Oh it sucked!". Most people loved it, it was a great time, but they can't seem to accept that.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Still waiting on Taylar Swifts sex video release

    by LargoJr

    you KNOW its going to happen sooner or later

  • June 29, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    "It's possible this subplot was cut for plausibility issues."

    by Ingeld

    The writer of the article explains a cut with the above line. It doesn't seem to me that plausibility was much of a concern in this movie.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    And to people saying it had to much action...

    by Nickn328

    Enterprise and Nemesis. All that needs to be said.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Star Trek was just great.

    by Azlam Orlandu

    Look at how people have different opinions :)

  • June 29, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Star Trek Geeks Are Masochists

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    They used to be laughed at and marginalized for liking Star Trek.<br /><br />Now they're being laughed at and marginalized for NOT liking Star Trek.<br /><br />Apparently, they secretly enjoy being laughed at and marginalized.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Funny isn't it?

    by donkey_lasher

    How more and more people are realising how weak Star Trek was. It's hardly had any major opposition on the sci fi front has it this year? I fucking GUARANTEE that Watchmen will gain more respect than JJ's over hyped flick.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    They Need to Publish The Script

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    The Haters in the other threads were not only complaining about information that was cut out of the movie. They were ignoring information that WAS in the movie.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    J.J. took out all the hackish Orci and Kurtzman stuff

    by zooch

    and actually flipped it into a coherant film

  • June 29, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    "BONES"

    by DoogieHowitzer

    If I am not mistaken, the nickname "bones" is a reference to an archaic term for physician/surgeon - "sawbones" Since McCoy was a pretty old school style doc, the called him a sawbones.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    ClarenceBeaks

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It IS a third-rate rehash of Star Wars. There is no Star Trek to be found in it whatsoever. Never mind, it made a lot of money and the tweens are happy. Thank god for The Hurt Locker and Public Enemies.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Kwis...

    by Nickn328

    Even though Star Trek has higher rankings than either of those films? Smug asshole.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Merrick, you twat.

    by MikeTheSpike

    So chicks that didn't screw you were "prudes"? Ha! Keep tellin' yourself that, buddy.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach,

    by ClarenceBeaks

    Looking forward to Public Enemies also.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Instead of the Death Star...

    by ClarenceBeaks

    the audience gets a jagged ship that destroys planets.<p>Sorry. Star Wars did it better.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    PIECE OF JUNK MOVIE FOR TRAINED MONKEYS

    by HaterofCrap

    laughable how people that like this movie go the mob rule route and say "HAY EVERYONE RATES IT HIGH ON THE SITESSS". mob rule is for chimpanzee groups and nazi germany.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    In the scene where Spock Prime meets Kirk

    by The Gospel According to Bastardface

    Spock Prime comments on the coincidence, inferring that destiny has brought them together and that their fates are intertwined, thus the universe is correcting itself. I too missed it from the script.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Rotten Tomatoes

    by donkey_lasher

    Has Slumdog Millionaire rated LESS than Star Trek. So much for the ratings.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Neilf

    by SmokingRobot

    Your constant off-topic posts are annoying and stupid. IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING DON'T WATCH IT.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Wait....

    by donkey_lasher

    ...how can the universe ve correcting itself when this is an alternate reality? Destiny has no place in the Star Trek mythos.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Taylor Swift was awesome--

    by bma2192

    --in fact, that WHOLE bit that she did was hilarious! I had no idea-- but I like her now--

  • June 29, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Haterofcrap...

    by Nickn328

    You aren't taking a mob rule by assosciating with people of other opinions? Look in the mirror before you look at me you prick.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    fcenter

    by TheBlackKnight

    fcenter fcenter fcenter

  • June 29, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    What is sad...

    by ClarenceBeaks

    is that Transformers will kick the shit out of Star Trek...er...sorry...Star Wars.<p>I keep forgetting they ripped it off.Sorry.

  • June 29, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Weak

    by jimmy00900

    More apologizing for a weak story. "See, it was -supposed- to make sense! Star Trek was great!" Most of the additions sound superficial and some even more ridiculous than what made it in. The reviewer didn't even bother to mention what Spock Prime actually said, and if it's true that "destiny" got them together (how romantic) and the Universe was correcting itself, they were right to pull that from the movie because this is FUCKING STAR TREK, not Star Wars or some shitty anime. "Destiny" doesn't exist in the Star Trek universe, the whole point is these people are making their own destiny. Fucking destiny, I would have walked out of the theater if that made it in the final cut. It just goes to show you that the people involved in this film don't know a damn thing about Star Trek. Oh and here's an idea, instead of explaining where Nero went for 30 years, why not explain why he appeared at KIRK'S BIRTH for god sake. And why does Spock appear at KIRK'S GRADUATION FROM FUCKING STARFLEET? It's destiny!!!! Or REALLY fucking weak writing. If I had wrote that as fan fiction it would get ripped to shreds and you all know it. Why it should be acceptable in a big screen treatment is a mystery, but I promise you this, five years from now no one will give two shits about this dud of a movie because as fun as the characters were, as slick as the visuals looked, the STORY BLEW.

  • June 29, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    The Star Trek script is better

    by donkey_lasher

    than Transformers 2.<p> Come on, you know you want to....

  • June 29, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    RT Ratings...

    by DreadPirateRoberts

    Rotten Tomatoes does not 'rate' anything. It just gives the % of positive reviews from all the critics covered. Star Trek's RT score says little about its quality and everything about its widespread popularity. I had a great time watching it, even if I had some big issues with much of the tech in the film.

  • June 29, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    I agree Donkey

    by Fortunesfool

    The Star Trek script IS better than Transformers 2. What is your point though? I had a shit this morning - wasn't as good as the one I had yesterday. They were both just shit though.

  • June 29, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Me too Roberts

    by donkey_lasher

    I wouldn't deny that it wasn't fun to watch, but on repeated viewings it just doesn't hold up well. <p> In about 10 years time I imagine people will still be talking about Wrath of Khan, but referring to the reboot as "The Star Trek that tried to be Flash Gordon"

  • June 29, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Fortunesfool

    by donkey_lasher

    I was just setting them pins up for someone to knock down :)

  • June 29, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    If the Next Gen films had been given this much of a push...

    by Acquanetta

    ...who knows? At any rate, Star Trek was a fun movie, but had none of the depth of the best Trek movies. It's kind've sad that this is considered the best Summer 2009 has to offer.

  • June 29, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "NEW TREK REMAINS ASS"

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "CLEARLY THE EDITING DIDN'T HELP"

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Talkback does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    I just looked at some of the talkback comments on that TNMC site that the Star Trek piece is on, and fuuuuck. They're so polite, brief, and boring. It really makes me proud of all of you fuckers that keep AICN interesting.

  • June 29, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "BOB ORCI SHOULD HAVE STUCK

    by TITBAG

    .....TO WRITING BAD EPISODES OF THAT HORRIBLE FUCKING ALIAS SHOW"

  • June 29, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    WARP FACTOR FAIL!

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    IT'S WORSE THAN THAT. THE MOVIE IS ASS, JIM

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    SET PHASERS TO FAIL

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    FAILING FREQUENCIES OPEN, CAPTAIN!

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    SENSORS SHOW NOTHING BUT FAIL

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    SCOTTY, I NEED MORE FAIL

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    I CANNOT CHANGE THE LAWS OF FAIL

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    SET COURSE FOR THE PLANET FAIL

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    WE ARE BEING FAILED

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    SHIELDS UP! FAIL ALERT!

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Who put in the awesome "

    by Autodidact

  • June 29, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    RE: Stifler's Mom

    by WealthyPeasant

    "the movie i saw was just OK, with shaky logic, decent action, and flat humor." Doesn't that describe all things "Star Trek" since 1966? This is what I expected when I went into the theater and I was not disappointed -- because in Hollywood today if does not disappointment, it is a success.

  • June 29, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    ALL YOU FUCKING MORONS WHO LOVED THE NEW TREK

    by TITBAG

    WITH IT'S EXPLOSIONS AND MIND-NUMBINGLY AWFUL DIALOG AND SIMPLETON NONSENSICAL PLOT LINES WERE REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR THE NEXT RUSH HOUR MOVIE BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE FUCKING GOT. IT'S REALLY THE MOVIE THAT JJ THE TWAT TRULY WANTED TO MAKE. <P> THE SPACE AND SCIENCE ASPECT MUST HAVE BEEN A REAL BUMMER FOR JJ & COMPANY TO HAVE TO WORK AROUND, AND THE MORONIC LEVEL OF WRITING BEARS THAT OUT.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "JJ, AWESOME JOB ON RUSH HOUR 4"

    by TITBAG

  • June 29, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Fucking lousy timing. I make a point about talkbacker's posting interesting comments and then fucking TITBAG shows up and spams retardation over the room.<p> TITBAG you're the tb equivalent of the nutter locked up next to Hannibal Lecter throwing his spunk at Jodie Foster.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    This explains those missing scenes from the trailer...

    by D.Vader

    The shots of Nero, shirtless and dirty, peering over his shoulder in what looks like a mine. Also that shot of him from the end of the first trailer where he says "The wait is over..." <p> So that explains why he and his crew have been missing for 20 years.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    NO, NO, NO!

    by cutest_of_borg

    You haters are way off. We have all witnessed the reemergence of Trek. Wildly entertaining and true to the characters - it stands proudly with Khan as the best of the best. Its $247 MIL at the box office (so far) has propelled it into the top 50 films of all time. Critics and casual fans - you know - NORMAL PEOPLE - all love the film. Face it, Damone - Trek is here to stay.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    I almost forgot...

    by cutest_of_borg

    Haters: Fahhhhhhh cuuuuuue.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    So Kurtzman and Orci weren't responsible for that plot hole

    by D.Vader

    Interesting.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    jimmy00900

    by MikeTheSpike

    What the hell Jim, you're flying off the handle at something that (and I'll use caps here to make it perfectly clear) WASN'T IN THE ACTUAL FILM.<p> Do you understand this? You are actually getting angry at something that DOESN'T EXIST. The "destiny" bit was rightly cut - perhaps, even, for the reasons you so, uhm, eloquently outlined - and you're STILL angry? Get a goddamn grip, Jimmers.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    This talkback is basically...

    by Nickn328

    "WAHHH! All the kids who made fun of me in high school like what I like now, so I hate it!". You people basically sum up everything that's wrong with the internet.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    This talkback is basically...

    by Nickn328

    "WAHHH! All the kids who made fun of me in high school like what I like now, so I hate it!". You people basically sum up everything that's wrong with the internet.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Ugh. You hateful bastards do not speak for me.

    by The Gospel According to Bastardface

    STAR TREK was fucking great! Get over your petty bitter rantings. Opinions may be like assholes, but when it's just assholes with opinions -- ugh, forget it.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST

    This talkback is basically...

    by Nickn328

    "WAHHH! All the kids who made fun of me in high school like what I like now, so I hate it!". You people basically sum up everything that's wrong with the internet.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST

    This talkback is basically...

    by Nickn328

    "WAHHH! All the kids who made fun of me in high school like what I like now, so I hate it!". You people basically sum up everything that's wrong with the internet.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    J.J. ABRAMS - "THE FIRST THING WE CUT, IRONICALLY, WAS STORY LOG

    by CharlesThomasMathews1978

  • June 29, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    TITBAG?

    by cameron1975willi

    "I dare you to do better."

  • June 29, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    A guy who only types in caps calling us morons

    by MattmanReturns

    That's hilarious.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    I have no problem with "destiny" being in Star Trek

    by D.Vader

    Nothing wrong with adding some mythic qualities to the Trek mythos.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    MikeTheSpike

    by jimmy00900

    Whether it was in the film or not, it was written and exists as further evidence that the story was awful and the people involved knew nothing about Star Trek. People had been recently talking about the "missing 30 years" that were actually cut from the film as well as other scenes that would make it all make sense, and now we can see that it's still a terrible story and those missing scenes actually make it worse. Directors cuts won't save this one.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    "those missing scenes actually make it worse!"

    by cameron1975willi

    Duh, I guess that's why they were taken out huh MikeTheGenius?

  • June 29, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Typical Talkbacker

    by CaptainAxis

    "[insert name of popular movie] SUCKS! WAAAAHHHH! [insert name of some unknown movie that's just as illogical] is SO MUCH BETTER! LOOK AT ME AND HOW SPECIAL I AM!!"<br> <br> Talkback geeks are the kids who never wanted to share their toys and ran crying to Mommy when another kid tried to play with them.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Are you off your rocker, man? They wrote it, and then got rid of it. It never made it to the actual film that either you or I saw with our very own eyeballs. For all you know, they cut it out because of the very same issues you brought up. <p>I know it's AICN talkback, but I still cannot imagine how a man could lose his lunch over something that isn't actually in a film.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Cameron!

    by MikeTheSpike

    Get your names straight, man!

  • June 29, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Durrrr, what Jimmy?

    by D.Vader

    How do the scenes explaining Nero's mising 20 years, in which a plot hole is fixed and some insight into the villain is given, make the film *worse*? Please give me a real explanation, not some throwaway remark. Because right now, your argument isn't holding water.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    CaptainAxis

    by donkey_lasher

    Your own post has just exploded my Irony-meter.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Ron Moore's Virtuality Is Better Than The New Trek

    by Media Messiah

    The new Star Trek was just horrible!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Well The Trolls Are Still Out There.....

    by Real Deal

    They just don't get the fact that all the stuff they predicted : The film tanking etc. didn't happen and most of the Star Trek fans have accepted this film as something good. But the haters do make a loud noise in an attempt to make up for lack of numbers. It almost made the most money of any film this year! Like I've said before ST needed to change. It needed new blood. Roddenberry wanted his baby to always be relevent. After 40 years ( and 5 TV shows 2 of which were on alternate nights during the week at one point! ) it needed something new to do this. I think Roddenberry would have approved. Nice to see his wife got be in it one last time. There were some groan worthy science moments but no more so than the " Sling shot effect "! Some ST fans act like it was always perfect right on the science mark, great writing, and acting. Uh not so much. But it was entertaining! And so was this film! I'm a long time fan ( I was 13 and it was 1966! ) so I'm a bit of a ST geek or Trekker if you will. I don't go to conventions and wear plastic ears ( although I may have a pair around here somewhere ). But I do like ST in it's entirety. This film will give it the new life it needs to continue. A really great film can't wait for the BD!

  • June 29, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    THEGOSPELACCORDINGTOBASTARDFACE

    by TITBAG

    I'VE REGISTERED ON AICN PURELY TO LET YOU KNOW YOU ARE A COMPLETE TWAT.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    I like that people loved this film

    by donkey_lasher

    It shows just how bad Sci Fi films have become these days.<p> I'm not sure how a Directors Cut will help to improve a film that is essentially a dumbed down nod to the fans.<p> Maybe The Matrix and BSG have spoiled us.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    REALCOCKUPTHEASSDEAL

    by TITBAG

    I'VE REGISTERED ON AICN PURELY TO LET YOU KNOW YOU ARE A COMPLETE TWAT.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    CAPTAINCOCK

    by TITBAG

    I'VE REGISTERED ON AICN PURELY TO LET YOU KNOW YOU ARE A COMPLETE TWAT.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    MATTMANRETURNSTOTHEGAYBAR

    by TITBAG

    I'VE REGISTERED ON AICN PURELY TO LET YOU KNOW YOU ARE A COMPLETE TWAT.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    I have almost no attachment to Trek whatsoever...

    by SK229

    I was really 'the audience' for this film, I guess. I loved it when I saw it, and it was a great time at the theater, a lot of eye candy, funny lines, some small philosophical points about destiny and time travel... now when I think about it, it just seems like it was a script that needed to go through about ten more rewrites. That, or they should have dropped time travel altogether. Anyone who writes science fiction (or it's retarded cousin, 'skiffy' as Harlan Ellison called it), whether it be a short story, a novel, or screenplays, should be able to see what was going on with this script. When I think about this film now, it feels exactly like science fiction stuff that I've written when it was at the first draft stage. You know the one... the one where you're like, "Ok... I've GOT IT! The guy will come BACK through the black hole, and he'll meet himself, and then this will meet up with that and resolve that," on and on, ad nauseum. Then the reality sinks in and you start asking yourself the tough questions - "But this doesn't make any sense... that's too convenient... that is out of character, even if only for those a few pages, etc." The thing you thought was a brilliant solution falls apart. What J.J. proves is that if you put enough energy, noise, color, and one-liners in there, people will glide right over all the rough points, but it also proves that many WILL think about it later on as it occurs to them that much of the story doesn't hold up under ANY scrutiny whatsoever. <p>This also makes me believe, even moreso now, that screenwriting books, courses, and panels/seminars are SO FUCKING FULL OF SHIT that the Hoover dam couldn't hold it back. "You need to rewrite it fifty times, the plot needs to be airtight, you MUST have resolution to get past the reader, you need to hit all these beats properly, yada,yada, yada..." Bull-fucking-shit. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. Yes, you should make sure it's as good as it can possibly be, but if and when it does get made, all of the work will be undone. And if you're lucky, you can become a screenwriter like these guys who don't even have to do all the things we've told you are necessary... no, we'll take your shitty, plot-hole ridden first draft and make it into a film right then and there.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    I don't think...

    by donkey_lasher

    ..anyone predicted the film to tank, just that once many people saw it, they were underwhelmed. I know a few that disliked it. Didn't HATE it as such, but likened it more to Attack of The Clones. The actors were what saved this film for me, they were excellent but they were really let down by the script. It does seem to be the year of the underwhelming geek film so far.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    I didn't love it

    by CaptainAxis

    But I enjoyed it for what it was. You do know that not every film has to be "OH MY GOD I LOVED IT AND JIZZED ALL OVER THE THEATER!!!!!!" or "WHAT A FUCKING WORTHLESS PILE OF DONKEY SHIT!!!" right? When did AICN turn into a republican forum where everything is either good or evil, with no grey area in between?

  • June 29, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    And if you're lucky...

    by SK229

    it will get a director that will throw enough noise at the screen that most people won't notice the script problems, and we'll pay you ten times as much to do the same shit all over again. Wow... fuuuuck me...

  • June 29, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    So far for me this year

    by donkey_lasher

    1. Watchmen<p> 2. Terminator Salvation <p> 3. Star Trek <p> 4. Wolverine <p> 5. Transformers 2 <p>

  • June 29, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Ron Moore Should Be In Charge Of Trek

    by Media Messiah

    I never thought I'd say it, but...it's true!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    MM...

    by MapMan

    You have no credibility. Come back when you can embrace 2001 as THE classic, quintessential Sci-Fi movie.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Vader

    by jimmy00900

    It makes it worse because, as even the reviewer of this script said, it's completely implausible that he'd just escape the Klingons just because now he's ready. Huh? Really? Sure I'll get tortured for fun. That makes a lot of sense. Oh but now I have to go because Spock is here. They should have put some time into what Nero was doing BEFORE he even went through time. Why did he just happen to run into Spock as the star was being destroyed? He just happens to be there, with no backstory, ready and waiting for revenge on Spock. Convenient. There was virtually no setup there, he just exists to get revenge on Spock. My argument doesn't hold water? What the fuck are you talking about? Everything I've said makes complete sense. "Destiny" doesn't fit within Star Trek, it was wisely removed, but it still shows the writers don't "get" Star Trek and there still isn't a viable explanation as to why Kirk just happens to run into Spock. This script review just goes to show that the added scenes don't add anything to the plot hole fest that was Star Trek. You can't argue that. You can't argue that if I wrote hackneyed coincidences like Nero arriving at Kirk's birth and Spock arriving at Kirk's graduation I'd be laughed out of Creative Writing 101 for ridiculous plotting. The bottom line is the story is very bad, the villain paper thin, the plot holes huge and obvious. Why are people apologizing for it? Are they mad that even the deleted scenes don't vindicate their defense of this shitty movie?

  • June 29, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Dont say that Messiah

    by donkey_lasher

    You'll have people crying over the finale and about "God" orchestrating everything.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Even the cut scenes are ridiculous...

    by jimmy00900

    ...take this one: Nero has a notebook filled with drawings and calculations regarding Spock's ship. Really? Those Klingon's sure are nice giving Nero pen and paper for his genius mind to calculate Spock's arrival. Funny how a captain of a mining vessel can do calculations about where and when a ship will arrive after being sucked into a black hole (!) based off no information whatsoever. This writing team is AWFUL.

  • June 29, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Shitty Movie

    by donkey_lasher

    I wouldn't go that far jimmy. Flawed perhaps, but I sat through Transformers 2 last night and changed my perspective of what is a shitty film.<p> That's a good point about the coincidences however. There was a sever lack of backstory and characters just "showing up". I thought of Trek last night, and TF2 has the same problems. Sloppy writing.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Watchmen

    by CaptainAxis

    Still a great film, probably my favorite of '09. Was it perfect? Of course not. But it nailed the tone, themes, and visuals of the book.<br> <br> Just for a change of pace, can anybody here name five movies from the past year that they DID like? Or is it all hate, all the time? Why do you even watch movies if you hate all of them? Maybe it's time to find another hobby.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO SEE SCOTTY

    by TITBAG

    ACCIDENTLY BEAMING HIMSELF RIGHT INSIDE OF ZOE SALDANA'S PRETTY LITTLE ASSHOLE.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    WATCHMEN WAS 10X THE FILM THIS WAS...

    by TITBAG

    ...AND WATCHMEN WAS POSITIVELY DREADFUL.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Jimmy you're letting your anger and hate get in the way...

    by D.Vader

    Of your mental faculties. Nero has a notebook filled with drawings and calculations based on the jellyfish BEFORE he was captured by the Klingons. The Klingons just wanted more information about that. <p> But for some reason, in your anger, you gloss over the finer points to find something to latch onto as an example to back up your beliefs.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    And Jimmy, I said your argument doesn't hold water bc...

    by D.Vader

    When a plot hole is fixed and a villain given depth, it doesn't make sense to say such things make a film worse. <p> Now you elaborated later about what you meant, but those points are specifically "what the fuck" I was talking about.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Vader

    by CaptainAxis

    You are far too logical and nuanced in your opinions for this place.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Blu Ray?

    by Toonol

    I wonder why most blogs and media sites talk about BluRay when discussing movie releases, when in reality they still constitute a small fraction of the home sales compared to DVDs? Is it simply because the authors have converted, and don't think about DVDs any more? Or is it a deliberate push to make it seem ubiquitous?

  • June 29, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Vader

    by jimmy00900

    Speaking of glossing over, can you explain how Nero would even have calculations about where and when Spock would arrive? You kind of ignored that. Or how he'd have any information whatsoever about Spock's ship, being that he's just the captain of a mining vessel? Stop trying to explain away all these weak story points. Everything I've said "holds water", what doesn't is the half-assed defense of this. Talk about my "anger" all you want if it keeps you from discussing actual plot holes and weaknesses I'm bringing up.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    And why can't "destiny" fit into Star Trek?

    by D.Vader

    Is it outrageous for characters to have an ethos in Star Trek, or to even entertain the possibility of such an idea? Get over yourself, Jimmy. No one's saying it IS destiny. Its merely a possible explanation that is given. Don't act as if coincidences have never occurred in Trek lore before, or that it wasn't destiny for Kirk and Picard to meet in the Nexus. If you want to criticize JJ's Trek, fine and dandy, I had my problems with the film too. But to pretend as if these problems are *new* to Trek is ridiculous.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Coraline was good

    by donkey_lasher

    .

  • June 29, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Blu-ray is stunning

    by CaptainAxis

    I didn't believe all the hype until I got my PS3 and a Samsung LCD TV. But Christ, it's a massive difference from standard DVD. Everything is so much clearer and brighter, positively awe-inspiring at times. Even the crap transfers are better than DVD. The biggest surprise for me has been the older films - 2001 on Blu-ray looks like it was made last year, it's so crisp. Anybody railing against Blu-ray and wondering what the big deal is simply has no clue.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Jimmy, Nero's calculations

    by D.Vader

    That is a very good point and one I didn't understand as the film played- how would Nero know when Spock was going to appear. Of course, I thought it was explained in the film that Nero and Spock had kind of been working together to try and save Romulus, and that would explain why Nero knew so much about the Jellyfish ship. <p> Then again, I could be mixing memories of the film with what I read about JJ, Orci, and Kurtzman's "Countdown" prequel comics which did explain that they worked together. It may have been glossed over in the film; I don't recall. <p> But it is a good point you brought up. It could have been better explained in the original script and was cut for time, or perhaps explained during Nero's time in prison. Fact is, we're just basing our conclusions on one person's reaction to an early draft no one else (so far) has claimed to have read. Those scenes could have played out much better and may have filled in more holes, like Nero could be a math whiz (he is captain of a ship afterall) who figured out the time of Spock's arrival based on the time elapsed between his entering the black hole and Spock's. Who knows. Its a hole, I'll give you that, but I was specifically talking about the missing scenes when I first joined the conversation.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Wow, what a scoop!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Has anyone read the Trek Movie article about the DVD and Blue Ray? We'll get deleted scenes, and a lot of commentaries which will cover this shit. No need to read the script.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    CaptainAxis

    by D.Vader

    You may have just caught me on a good day is all =).

  • June 29, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Vader

    by jimmy00900

    No one has EVER discussed "Destiny" as an explanation of events in Star Trek. Spock would NEVER explain away some ridiculous circumstance as Destiny because that would not be logical. He would have no reason to believe that "Universe" is trying to correct itself. That's the most BS thing I've ever heard associated with Star Trek. It's why they most likely cut it out, and why there's still no explanation for such a coincidence. Also you still haven't addressed why Nero arrived at Kirk's birth, and why Spock at his graduation. WHY do you refuse to admit that all of this = bad writing when it's so obvious? You can explain away a lot of bad writing with "destiny", but Star Trek has never done that before. Even with Kirk and Picard, at least they set up the story to work in such a way that you could follow an A to B to C reason why these characters met when they did.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Captain Axis

    by Toonol

    The haters are more motivated. The vast majority of people who watched Star Trek, even fans of the franchise, liked the movie.<p> But the haters post, and post, and post. The same comments, the same complaints. If you actually thought a feedback thread represented the true reception of a film, you'd think that half or more of AICN hated Star Trek. There's something unbalanced at emotionally HATING a movie; I think that same imbalance corresponds with strange, neurotic posting behavior.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Captain Axis

    by Toonol

    I don't deny that BluRay is better. I'm not railing against it. I'm just saying it's still hovering around 10% of the sales volume of DVD. It just hasn't really taken off, yet. DVDs are still the de-facto standard, and will be for at least a couple more years.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Toonol

    by jimmy00900

    Perhaps it's because we're treated like their is something wrong with -us- when in fact we don't just accept bad writing because "gee golly that was fun!" Some of us really love Star Trek because on the whole it's smart, intelligent science fiction. I think time, and repeat viewings, will prove the "haters" right on this movie. Then suddenly it'll be like Phantom Menance where the people that were blown away originally never watch it again and talk shit about it.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    And don't bother with the typos

    by jimmy00900

    I know they're in "their"

  • June 29, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    My Dad was a big Trek fan

    by CaptainAxis

    I saw the new Star Trek with him and we both enjoyed it. We also enjoyed pointing out the coincidences and plotholes as we thought more about it afterward, just as we've done with countless films. We still enjoyed the movie though. Toonol is right, many of you must have mental disorders to get this bent out of shape over a movie.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Klingong cloaking ships? Notebook?

    by CeejayNightwing

    There were no such thing as a Klingong cloaking vessel in Kirks time until well after the 5 year mission ended and the Klingongs stole the Bird of Prey and cloaking tech from the Romulans!!! How's it that the Klingons have it as soon as the Romulans come from the future? Same as Uhura referring to a Cardassian Drink, they don't discover the Cardassians till well after Kirks time! And what's with a Notebook in the 24th century Romulus? These guys have tech, they don't store things in books like ancient humans! This film is written for people who NEVER watched Star Trek, it has stupid coincidences and a Spock who's more human than the human characters, where's the challenge in that for portraying an Alien we're not supposed to be able to relate to directly? Worse thing about this film is that Kirk is a cadet for three years, never been in space before, yet by the end of the film he's a full blown captain! Lol, who writes this crap and worse still, how dumb do you have to be to swallow it? The original Trek was way more intelligent than this simplistic turd!

  • June 29, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    CeejayNightwing

    by CaptainAxis

    I heard Conan O'Brien's "nerd voice" in my mind while reading your post. Thanks for the laugh.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Jeezus Jimmy, give me a break

    by D.Vader

    "Also you still haven't addressed why Nero arrived at Kirk's birth, and why Spock at his graduation...." <p> Uh, was that EVER part of our debate? I haven't said one thing about that, and YOU have not asked ME to explain those things to you, so why are you damn surprised I haven't mentioned them? Give me a fucking break man, I'm taking things one at a time. <p> Here, let me take a page out of your playbook: "Why haven't YOU admitted that the prison sequence fills a plot hole you have complained about numerous times, while also adding some depth to a villain you have said is one-dimensional? Huh, huh, HUH?" <p> I haven't brought up stupid points like that because I don't care. And I haven't asked you to take those points into account. So if you want to engage me with something specific, ask me. Otherwise, don't get your panties in a wad when I haven't addressed something you mentioned in another post. <p> Now, as far as those points go... why would that be a problem? Why does Nero arrive when Kirk is born? Because that's just when he arrived. What does it matter? And Spock at Kirk's graduation-- I don't know what you're referring to there. Can you enlighten me with the problem? Spock was at Starfleet, right?

  • June 29, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Toonol

    by CaptainAxis

    Just so you know, I wasn't including you in the Blu-ray haters club. It's inexplicable, but I've seen posts on other talkbacks where people claim that Blu is bad because it takes away the grain and fuzz. Seriously. This place should be renamed Ain't It Contrarian.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    And if anyone wants to complain about Trek incongruities...

    by D.Vader

    They need to look up clips on YouTube which point out the innumerable times writers of the Trek series and films have contradicted how ideas, characters, dates, and plot points had previously been written. Trek is a HUGE universe; one can't expect everything to fit in perfectly. You'd have to be Trek-nerd supreme to not make one mistake.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    "Spock was at Starfleet, right?"

    by donkey_lasher

    I'm outta here.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    eejayNightwing

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Dude, you're getting all that shit from books. Books aren't canon.

  • June 29, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Star Trek is critic proof No need to point out its faults

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Since a lot of people complain about Star Trek's plot and story I guess that means it ALL A CONSPIRACY.<P> With so many people complaining it must really be a great plot and story with no flaws......right?

  • June 29, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Vader

    by jimmy00900

    Really, just stop. You're apologizing for a poorly written script, trying to make logical sense of it when that was the writer's job. We're not talking one mistake, we're talking an entire script that makes no sense. The entire story runs off of conveniences and coincidences. This is the mark of a bad story. The added Klingon scenes (as we understand them) don't give any depth to the character because they just show events happening to him, they don't give him any kind of motivation or character change. I've only seen this movie once (that was enough) but I saw no indication that the mining crew was helping Spock. To my knowledge they just happened to be there, ready and waiting for some revenge with a genius captain that understands black hole travel better than anyone apparently. It's basically killing time. When I'm presenting all of these plot holes, I'm asking EVERYONE to address them, not just you, although you seemed ok with picking and choosing some that you thought you had answers for (the notebook) and ignoring others. I don't know why this is even worth arguing over. The way people that are apologizing for this movie are filling in the gaps left by the writers with pure speculation and fanciful thinking says it all: entertaining but ultimately poorly written and forgettable movie.

  • June 29, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Jimmy

    by MikeTheSpike

    1) Nero is at Kirk's birth because the trauma of the Narada attack *caused* the birth (as he would have otherwise been born in Iowa)<p> 2) Old Spock is at Kirk's graduation because... he wanted to be? He read about it in the paper and showed up? I got the impression Spock was purposely there to watch his friend get promoted to captain, and that it was in no way a coincidence.<p> 3) Again, why are you flying off the handle about the destiny stuff? It's not in the movie, quite possibly for the very reasons you outline! Maybe O&K stuck it in, slept on it, and thought better of it. Who the fuck knows? The point is, you are making a mountain out of... not a mole hill, but something that doesn't exist to begin with.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    You people over thinking eveyr god damn movie

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It's a MOVIE! You're supposed to enjoy it! Stop over thinking everything! It's a movie where spaceships travel to PLANETS with MORE PEOPLE on them! Why can't people USE A NOTEBOOK? Maybe he didn't know how to use a computer? FUCK!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    MikeTheSpike

    by jimmy00900

    Nero arrives as Kirk is born. Did he cause the actual act of labor? Sure. Does that explain the -astronomical- coincidence of Nero arriving via black hole within this infinitesimal time and place in the Universe? Really? Out of the vastness of space and time, he's flung right where Kirk is, ready to be born? Fucking A, don't defend that as good storytelling. Also, Spock Prime arrives at a time when Kirk is graduating from Starfleet and conveniently will have access to a ship. Again, of all the time in history of the Universe that Spock could have been jettisoned, it conveniently coincides with just then. And the whole thing about Destiny...we're talking about things that don't exist to begin with because that's what the above article is about, or didn't you read it? The stuff that got cut from the movie but was written. So it does exist which is why I am discussing it. Did it cut? Yeah. Did some hack write it. Yeah. Would it have added to the movie? No. But the guy writing the article seemed to think they should have left it in. My opinion differs. That's why I posted it.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Okay Jimmy

    by D.Vader

    I'll go point by point for you. <p> "The added Klingon scenes don't... give him any kind of motivation or character change." <p> Yes, because apparently showing how extremely remorseful he is over the death of his pregnant wife isn't motivation or insight into his character?<p> "I saw no indication that the mining crew was helping Spock. To my knowledge they just happened to be there, ready and waiting for some revenge" <p> Again, I've only seen the movie once as well, so I can't remember how/if they explained Nero and Spock's relationship like they explained in the Countdown prequel comic (do you know about that?). <p>"you seemed ok with picking and choosing some that you thought you had answers for (the notebook) and ignoring others." <p> I brought up the Notebook because I believe you had falsely criticized that particular point and had misinterpreted its significance and history. That's why I chose to discuss the Notebook, to correct your mistake. <p> I didn't say anything about Spock at graduation because we were discussing something else at the moment and you didn't ask me for an explanation. Also, I *still* have no idea to what scene you're referring to, but you have ignored my request for more information so that we can better debate the point. <p> "The way people that are apologizing for this movie are filling in the gaps left by the writers with pure speculation and fanciful thinking." <p> Examples?

  • June 29, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    And no one is apologizing, Jimmy

    by D.Vader

    But I guess that just goes to show that you believe anyone who disagrees with you must be the complete opposite- a Trek loving apologist of some sort. <p> I'm just refuting some of your points because I disagree with a few of them and I like to debate film.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Jimmy

    by Nickn328

    TPM wasn't well received when it came out unlike Trek. But hey, even though you feel the need to be a contrarian prick,and you have retarded logic I'll give you credit for one thing in your sad life. You WERE great on that Onion video.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    by jimmy00900

    It was already shown in the movie that he was remorseful over his wife's death. And correct my mistake over the notebook? As you have already said, neither one of us has read the script, so "my mistake" could be completely accurate, especially give the shoddy nature of the rest of the storytelling. And I'm not referring to a "scene" I'm talking about Spock Prime arriving at a point in time where Kirk is graduating from Starfleet. Not when he's twelve, not at sixteen, not a billion years ago, at just the right time for Kirk to have access to a starship. I could almost forgive it if Nero hadn't arrive at just the right point in space and time for Kirk to be born. Ridiculous. You know it. Just quit apologizing for it.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Nick

    by jimmy00900

    Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. The movie sucked, get over it.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Jimmy, make some fucking sense

    by D.Vader

    "I'm talking about Spock Prime arriving at a point in time where Kirk is graduating from Starfleet." <p> If that's the case, then why didn't you ever call him Spock Prime like you had been doing for the majority of the Talkback? Without that differentiation, it just gets confusing, especially because the scene where Kirk is reprimanded for his Kobayashi Maru incident was graduation too, wasn't it? Afterall, everyone was immediately assigned to a Starship, right? <p> So forgive me for not reading your mind and having no idea of what graduation scene and which Spock you were referring to. <p> As for why Spock Prime was at Starfleet headquarters (not Kirk's graduation), do you really need to have that spelled out for you? Why? <p> Vulcan was just destroyed, Federation ships were arriving to help any survivors and evacuees... is it out of the question to suggest Kirk passed on a message that an elderly Vulcan was marooned on the ice planet? <p> And based on one of your statements... do you believe that Spock Prime ends up on the Enterprise? What's the significance of mentioning that Kirk has access to a starship?

  • June 29, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Jesus Christ, you're slow.

    by jimmy00900

    Well let's see Vader. Immediately before I was talking about when Nero arrived at Kirk's birth, so following that up by talking about Spock's arrival should have given you some kind of clue, right? What the fuck are you even talking about Starfleet headquarters for? I'm talking about SPOCK PRIME ARRIVING, TO BE MET BY NERO, AT A TIME WHEN KIRK IS JUST ABOUT TO GRADUATE FROM THE ACADEMY. Nero arrives at his birth, so many years later, Spock arrives, via black hole transport, when he is matured, about to graduate from the academy, and now, conveniently for the story, will have access to a ship. Read my above posts, it couldn't have been any clearer.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Hey Jimmy, you know what pisses me off too?

    by D.Vader

    When 3PO and R2 land so close to where Obi-Wan and Luke live on Tattooine. Its too damn convenient! And we're expected to believe Indy held on to a submarine's periscope the entire time during its trip to the island in Raiders? Or Brody has 2 shark attacks happen RIGHT in front of him in JAWS? Ridiculous!

  • June 29, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Sheeit Jimmy, you're terrible at this

    by D.Vader

    Really, if that's what you had meant, then that's what you needed to say. Because as I demonstrated to you, there are two Spocks and two "graduations" and you made no distinction between either. <p> Watch your blood pressure, mate. Don't get upset that you made the mistake.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Yeah, and Trek is a movie full of those

    by jimmy00900

    type of moments. So you should hate that too, right? Like I said above, I can forgive a single coincidence in a movie that stretches believability. This movie has WAY too many of those to just shrug off as you are doing. I'm talking major plot points that rely on astronomical (I don't think that word even sums it up given the sheer size of space and time) odds. The writers were lazy all throughout this movie.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Dude

    by jimmy00900

    I spelled it out at least three times above, at least once using an entire paragraph to detail what I was talking about. You didn't follow and posted some shit about Starfleet headquarters. That's not my fault. Again, couldn't have been any clearer. Nero arrives, Spock arrives. What more do you need to know what I'm talking about?

  • June 29, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Jimmy

    by Nickn328

    If it makes you feel better, tell yourself your dad didn't touch you there. Ridiculous. He sucked, get over it.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Har har.

    by jimmy00900

    You got me! Too bad you still can't defend this movie properly.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    And Jimmy...

    by Nickn328

    I'll stick with my own opinion you fucking child.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    James

    by MikeTheSpike

    If you really need an explanation (personally I am happy to suspend disbelief on some points), maybe the specific concentration of red matter/angle at which it intersected with the nova/etc. that old Spock used in the 24th century was enough to get him, roughly, to the mid-23rd century. Spock did create the black hole with the express intent of going back in time, so it's entirely plausible he knew exactly what he was doing, at least in a rough sense.<p> That answers the "time" issue. If you need one for "space," ie: how did the Narada end up at Kirk's birth, well, it didn't. It popped up in the general vicinity, and the Kelvin was drawn to it out of scientific interest. <p> The end. Coincidental, yeah, but it can still be swallowed.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Nick

    by jimmy00900

    Child? Did you read your above post? If you don't like the points I'm making either counter them or don't post on it. You can have your opinion.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    And Jimmy...

    by D.Vader

    You STILL haven't answered my question about the Countdown prequel. <p>(See how annoying that can be?) <p> Also, going back to Nero and his pregnant wife, at the point in the script at which we'd see Nero having a flashback to her during his torture, we the audience would not have known about his history, so it would be an insight that is later confirmed when Nero tells Kirk or Spock or whomever about the destruction of his planet and his family.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    MikeTheSpike

    by jimmy00900

    Did you just post that Spock created the black hole with the specific intent to go back in time!?!? HAHAHAHAAH. You have NO CLUE what movie you just saw did you? Really? Because he created the black hole to try to keep the star from going Nova. He had no clue he would be flung back into time and space. Wow.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    In addition,

    by MikeTheSpike

    Why the hangup over "when Kirk graduates"? What is significant about that? What is significant about him "getting a ship"? Why do you single those out as incredibly important events, the presence at which of Spock prime is the biggest plot hole in the history of cinema?

  • June 29, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Jimmy, you didn't spell out the Spock/graduation at all

    by D.Vader

    And I wasn't the only one confused. Even MiketheSpike thought you were talking about the end. Going back, I can see how you may have been talking about Spock PRIME's return through time, but dude, you were so vague. If you can't admit that, then well I'm sorry.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    WTF is the countdown prequel?

    by jimmy00900

    I saw the movie, that's what I'm discussing.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Vader

    by jimmy00900

    So now that we're on the same page, explain to me how these two astronomical coincidences (added to kirk running into Spock in a cave (are we still together on this one?)) make sense in any way? And I wouldn't use Mike as a backup, he thinks Spock created the black hole to go back into time.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    And why did I mention Starfleet headquarters?

    by D.Vader

    Because you talk about Spock Prime coming at Kirk's graduation when Kirk had access to a ship: which is exactly what happens at the end of the film (except Spock wasn't at the graduation). Can you not see how confusing you were?

  • June 29, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Actually, Jimmy, Spock did create the black hole...

    by D.Vader

    With the intention of going back in time. That was explained in the prequel comic co-written by JJ, Orci, and Kurtzman (I suggest you read some summaries of it). I thought it was hinted at in the film too, but as stated above, I saw the film once and might be mingling memories of film and comic.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Am I crazy? Didn't Spock arrive too late to save Romulus, so he purposely made the black hole to go back through time? If not, I'll gladly go back to my original stance which was *who gives a fuck*? Me, the guy next to me, the guy on the other side of me, everyone else in the entire theatre and 99% of everyone who saw it in the world didn't get hung up on that, just like they don't get hung up on nobody figuring out Clark Kent is Superman.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Plus, the star already WENT supernova...

    by D.Vader

    So why did Spock create a black hole then?

  • June 29, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    You have all become tiresome.

    by cutest_of_borg

    Enjoy it, hate it. It matters not. The only thing that matters is I will be enjoying new Trek films for the next several years.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Spock was on the ice planet because Nero

    by lockesbrokenleg

    put him there. That's what Spock says. He was put there so he could watch Vulcan being destroyed. How Kirk ended up there? Well, the Enterprise was around Vulcan, maybe the pod was set to land on the ice planet?

  • June 29, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Jimmy

    by D.Vader

    I've got to run, and right now I don't have explanations you want. Nor did I ever pretend to have them. I have absolutely NO problem with Nero arriving at a point in time close to Kirk's birth because- why should we? Its a movie; movies work like that. There are usually "coincidences" of such a nature when it relates to heroes and villains, as I sarcastically demonstrated above with examples from other great films.

  • June 29, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Star Trek: Bad TV Writing For Film

    by christian66

    It's just a terrible script. Period. TV style coinky-dinks galore -- cos in TV Land, everybody must be connected like a soap opera. So you get the stupidity of Kirk being SHIPPED DOWN to a planet -- why not teleported? -- where he finds the Cloverfield monster, Spock AND Scotty. Never mind the dumb sops to JACKASS fans like Bones repeatedly injecting Kirk, a scene that plays like TV commercial (lookie, he's getting hurt! ha ha!) The movie plays better than the script for sure, but the shallowness comes straight from the TV Hacks who have tubevision. Again, terrible script. Doesn't TRANSFORMERS prove the limited abilities of Orci and Kurtzman? But that's what sells today: mediocrity. Yay capitalism.

  • June 29, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Even if it's a bad script...

    by Nickn328

    I think Abrams made a great movie out of it, and so do most other people, yes, EVEN people who are Trek fans.

  • June 29, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    christian66

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Probably thinks Voyager is the height of Trek greatness.

  • June 29, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Star Trek = flawed, but highly enjoyable

    by 6000_little_griglets

    T:ROTF, T:S = flawed, tedious... funny how movie magic works like that sometimes

  • June 29, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Original Trek was smart science?

    by CaptainAxis

    That's funny, because I recently read an article that debunked the idea of warp drive. Apparently if there were such a thing, it would suck the Earth into a black hole behind the ship. Yet the Enterprise has been warp-driving all over the galaxy for 40 years. Also, why do all alien life forms look like humans with silly makeup and latex appliances on their faces?

  • June 29, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    why send Kirk on the planet anyway?

    by Bouncy X

    i never understood that, why not just arrest and shove him in the prison or brig or whatever its called. i mean he kicked him off the ship not knowing where he'd be or what would happen. what if kirk had gotten killed? thats the only thing that bugged me. lol

  • June 29, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Captain Axis

    by Bouncy X

    they actually tried to explain the "why do all aliens look like humans" in a TNG episode. apparently we're all derived from this one species, so we look like them. go star trek. :P

  • June 29, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Bouncy X

    by CaptainAxis

    Really? Don't tell the Trekkies, but that explanation sounds a lot like "God did it."

  • June 29, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Cool artical

    by hopeless

    I just wonder how much of it was filmed....

  • June 29, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    writers Q+A podcast

    by LenTheShark

    There is more information about the deleted scenes, quantum theory and Steven Hawkings, direct from the writers mouths, on Creative Screenwriting Magazine's Star Trek Q+A podcast on Itunes. It's 1.5 hours and worth a listen, even if you didn't like the movie.

  • June 29, 2009, 5:25 p.m. CST

    continuity and logic

    by AbramsPRIME

    hey TrekPRIME fans....yeah the new Trek had some plot issues...but it still works, it's fun and most importantly, it allowed the audience to emotional connect with the main characters (Kirk, Spock, McCoy, even Uhura...), something which a lot of the previous Treks didn't (unless you were already a Long Term Fan and could "shorthand" your way through the lack of character developmenent, which was often just "papered over" with bad jokes)....that was the problem with many (not all) the Trek films...they were getting more and more expensive and were being made SPECIFICALLY for a smaller and smaller (see box office) HARDCORE audience only.....they didn't even TRY to make a movies that a "newbie non fan" would enjoy.... You can wring the NewTrek though your "logic" and "Canon"meter and of course come up with problems....I personally don't care about "canon" since this is a reboot/alternate timeline....and frankly, run the same level of scrutiny though the other Treks and you can find massive logic and continuity problems....Trek 4...bringing people and whales forward in time changes things (Trek geek sez....awww...but it was funny so I won't complain....REALLY?)....Trek 2 and 3....how come the movies are literally back to back and there are SO many changes to the Enterprise, spacedock, hell even the HAND PHASERS are different....what up wit DAT Trekheads????....Trek 2 (yes the "untouchable" best of series)....how come Khan's followers are all 20 something and he's 60 and been marooned for 20 years....Did EVERYONE on the original Botany Bay Die except Khan and these are all "Botany Bay: The Next Generation"??? Stupid, illogical casting!!!! Where'd Khan get the nifty Starfleet medal necklace/beltbuckle? (that didn't exist in "space seed")... Federation Skymall? First contact...Borg Queen??? Makes no sense....even though writers tried to "shoehorn" her in to "suddenly new" Picard Flashbacks...if there was a queen, she would have shown herself in "best of both worlds"....blow continuity to try and "sex up" the movie...and give and "easy villain" to hiss at...if Borg can travel through time at will why go through all the trouble to try and fight your way through the Federation Fleet (who suddenly are WAY better and beating Borg ships BTW...the Picard "I hear they have a weak spot HERE' is SOOO lacking in logic, believability and yes, CANON....since it's established the ships have no central node or control area)...when the Borg could have time warped back to say... the 1900's safely in Borg space they trundled off to Earth unimpeded....strange for such a stupid move from a machine mind..... Trek, ALL Trek is LITTERED with logic and internal continuity problems.....you Hating Trek geeks are just pissed that your beloved "40 year universe" has just been blown by a movie that is exponentially more successful than ANYTHING set in your beloved "shatnerverse".....and now that Trek is Mainstream, what you losergeeks thinks about Trek....doesn't really matter anymore...Trek, NEWTrek, JJ Trek will go on without you...whine away babies....it's just a movie....

  • June 29, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    The New Star Trek Highly Enjoyable??? Like Watching A Rock!!!

    by Media Messiah

    Trash!!!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    $250-300 Million domestic haul

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Looks like I was correct. =)

  • June 29, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    MapMan: "2001" Sucked!!! "Silent Running" Is The Great Film

    by Media Messiah

    I love Kubrick...but 2001 is a boring, sterile, emotionless, and empty film, with cryptic messeges, and an absent plot, that lead to a whole lot of nothing.<BR><BR>Now, Silent Running is the real classic that deserved all the raves that 2001 got, but did not deserve!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Amended--MapMan: "2001" Sucked!!! "Silent Running" Is The Great

    by Media Messiah

    I love Kubrick...but 2001 is a boring, sterile, emotionless, and ultimately an empty film, with cryptic messeges, and an absent plot, that led to a whole lot of nothing, but an LSD trip. I refuse to go along with all the media hype that it is the Holy Grail of science fiction films, as it is not!!! <BR><BR> Now, Silent Running is the real classic that deserved all the raves that 2001 got, but did not deserve!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    What are they comparing STAR TREK (2009) with?

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    The movie was much better than any of the series episodes...and better than all but one of the films (THE WRATH OF KHAN). I liked it...and so did about $250 Million worth of domestic moviegoers too (so far).

  • June 29, 2009, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Orci and Kurtzman: Overrated hacks!

    by Stalkeye

    TF2 further proves it.

  • June 29, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    It's the most popular Star Trek movie ever, you idiots

    by Tall_Boy66

    One of the best reviewed, too. So that makes people who keep insisting that it was bad fucking morons. Just deal with. It's a great flick and everyone agrees except half a dozen yokels on AICN.

  • June 29, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for what JJ does with the next

    by SisterSpooky

    To see what he does with the "New" Star Trek franchise. On the bright side he kept the Canon as Canon, and used the Alternate universe to Spring Board the new Trek. I liked it, but can't quite make up my mind about plot, in this film. So going to wait and see what he does with it and then decide. The "New" Trek is JJ Trek, that I'm sure.

  • June 29, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    It's The Most Popular Star Trek Movie Ever, For Idiots

    by Media Messiah

    The new Trek is horrible!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 7:28 p.m. CST

    What amuses the shit out of me

    by joshuavance1701

    Is that the dichotomy of proponents vs. opponents about the Trek film can be broken down thusly: Those born before '77 and Star Wars, and those born after '77 and Star Wars. <p> Now , smarmy, pretentious, self-indulgent and entirely irreverent little emo cocksuckers like Assimovlives, Charles majestic Cunt, Media whore Messiah, ShitBag, and every other piece of shit uninformed opinion hackneyed cocksucker on here, these fucks were regurgitated post '77 and Star Wars, so basically....they don't matter. <p>They are the epitome of insignificance. Isn't that comical how that works? After thoughts. Entirely missing out on the genre. Accidental shit stains. <p>It's moving actually, it gives me gas and bowel relief how these pedentic flotsam taints were given computers by Mommy, and have access to the world , now suddenly, they have a "voice." <p>How do they elect to demonstrate this voice? By having the most flaccid, juvenile, hyperbolic rhetoric of a fecal matter movement froth and foam down their mouths as they breath in, breath out. Look at these twats- notice how the shit streams consistently down their chins. They lap and lick turgid flaccid stools. <p> By God I love it. Let's give a round of applause to cocksuckers like these fragmented turds. I've got chunks in my stools bigger than these fucks. I flush you all.

  • June 29, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    joshuavance1701—What have you been eating?

    by blakindigo

    How can you NOT appreciate the ranting of TITBAG?!!<br><br>Please man,for the sake of the children—!

  • June 29, 2009, 7:50 p.m. CST

    LOL, dude get some fiber in that diet!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • June 29, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Oh I know Blakindigo

    by joshuavance1701

    It's all in good fun, Shitbag is harmless, he bags my groceries for me special like down at the kroger.

  • June 29, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Lockes

    by joshuavance1701

    Thats why I particularly visit the Trek talkbacks man, anytime I'm remotely constipated I just read the insipid hyberbole of some of these majestic taints, and the pipes start a flowin'. It's medicinal man, seriously you should try it. If you are constipated, just read the tripe of a Assimov, or Charles majestic Cunt, or Shitbag, or any one of these anhedonic molesters of joy, and you will shit like a firestorm man. <p> "It looks like a lightning storm!"

  • June 29, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by joshuavance1701

    You bold circumsized supersized cunt you aren't exempt either. <p> I've got the shits, therefore, you've been a typing evidently.

  • June 29, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Joshuavance: Okay...Thanks For The Compliment!!!

    by Media Messiah

    I happen to believe that a woman's vagina is quite beautiful--in fact, one of the most beautiful things in the world. Keep-up the good work of giving me such wonder compliments--as I love them!!! No, seriously, no sarcasm intended.

  • June 29, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    I thought it was a fun movie...but I did not "connect"

    by conspiracy

    with any of the characters other than Karl Urbans spot on McCoy, and even that was no thanks to what was basically a punched out script.</p><p> The only time there was any REAL weight to the acting was Nimoy, who can't help but bring the pain with anything he touches. But again...alot of those problems were a very bad script.

  • June 29, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    PS: I'm A Goth, Not An Emo

    by Media Messiah

    But as I said, being compared to a woman's vagina, a vagina probably being the most beautiful thing in the world, besides a woman's mind and spirit, I have to tell you once again how very, and honestly, flattered I am by the comparison. You have to be one of the kindest people that I have ever met before, really!!!

  • June 29, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    Oh I am kind Media

    by joshuavance1701

    But when you pop off on a damn fun, fine film like Trek, you don't come off as a plump, ripe pink vaginal orifice, you come off as a worn, leathered, gray and green puss infested vaginal orifice. <p> But that's small potatoes though, you are generally harmless and inoffensive. There's far bigger green scrotums that inhabit the talkbacks.

  • June 29, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    About that Humor...

    by conspiracy

    Please...next time...less Orci/Kurtzman style yuks...those guys have a sense of humor that could only appeal to a 12yr old kid who lives in a trailer park, near a Navy base, with his meth addicted mom who rides mechanical bulls on Friday night to make some extra cash. Really...the "jokes" were more than lame..more than "epic fail"...they straight out sucked...as ALL Orci/Kurtzman humor does.</p><p>And get rid of the JJ Abrams "inside" jokes..."SlushO" is pure Bullshit.

  • June 29, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    I miss Michael

    by Star Hump

    Come back to us, Gloved One. Come back.

  • June 29, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    I Thought the Kirk Cameo Would Have Been Better...

    by BigEddieCalzone

    ...because it was about the new Kirk listening to this incredibly intimate "letter" between two friends, broadly illustrating the value of their friendship here as they head off into their "Emeritus years." There was something so personal and revealing about that it made a huge emotional punch for me. Looking forward to the sequel! Go guys!

  • June 29, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Put me down as "it was bad"

    by Autodidact

    That is one visually spectacular movie I won't be buying on blu-ray. Next time don't put so much stupid crap in your movie. I'd rather watch TF2 again before watching Star Trek again, and I LOVE STAR TREK (the real Star Trek).

  • June 29, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Titfag - the definition of FAIL

    by quantize

    suck it weiner

  • June 29, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Lockesbrokenleg

    by CeejayNightwing

    Nothing I mentioned is from the books, it's all from the TV show and films if you bothered to watch them let alone JJ Abrams doing the same before he went and made a Star Wars film out of Star Trek!

  • June 29, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Still no fix for the goof

    by The StarWolf

    And here I'd hoped there would be a scene on the cutting room floor which at least HINTED at the passage of some time between Enterprise leaving Earth orbit and Chekov stating "Vulcan in three MINUTES." What?! Three MINUTES?! The closest star to Earth is Alpha Centauri at 4.5 LIGHT YEARS. Even assuming Vulcan was there, that sort of speed makes the Andromeda galaxy reachable in only about three months. Someone wasn't checking their sums in the writing department.

  • June 29, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    YOU GUYS STILL ARGUING ABOUT NEW TREK?

    by BringingSexyBack

    What is there to say that hasn't already been said in the past 10 talkbacks? Nuff said!

  • June 29, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    IT'S A NEW TIMELINE DICKHEAD!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Besides, the Klingons and Romulans always had cloaking devices. The Romulans had them in the first season episodes. It's also mentioned in Season 2 the Klingons have cloaking devices. DAMN IT!!

  • June 29, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    FFS

    by BringingSexyBack

    You guys are total dorks.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Destiny?

    by Hipshot

    Whether "destiny" is the operative paradigm in the ST universe or not...it is perfectly reasonable for a character within that universe to believe in it. Or isn't the ST universe an extrapolation of our own?

  • June 29, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    QUANTIZE - THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING

    by BringingSexyBack

    But well said. I'm just glad Corey didn't encounter Titbag. That would've been an embarassment to us all.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    STARWOLF - PASSAGE OF TIME WAS HINTED AT ...

    by BringingSexyBack

    when Kirk was sedated by Bones, and he awakens in time to replay Chekov's announcement. Clearly he was out for quite some time considering how strongly he was sedated.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Wrath of Khan

    by Hipshot

    I loved it better than Star Trek, too...but what if it hadn't had the original cast? About 50% of the fun was watching these people we loved having one hell of a ride. Re-cast it, and Khan isn't as good as the new Trek at all.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST

    The Star Wolf

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    As boborci said in one of the trekmovie Q and A's: You can tell time has passed between them leaving Earth and getting to Vulcan because McCoy SEDATES Kirk in Sickbay wearing one outfit and when Kirk wakes up McCoy has already CHANGED INTO HIS UNIFORM.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    That, and McCoy had changed.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST

    If "Destiny" Has No Place in Star Trek

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    How do you explain SEVEN SEASONS of Deep Space Nine featuring Benjamin Sisko aka "The Emissary"?

  • June 29, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST

    If "Destiny" Has No Place in Star Trek

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    How do you explain SEVEN SEASONS of Deep Space Nine featuring Benjamin Sisko aka "The Emissary"?

  • June 29, 2009, 11:32 p.m. CST

    CYMBALTA - I JUST SAID THAT MAN

    by BringingSexyBack

    Were you stuck in a time warp?

  • June 29, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Bringing Sexy Back

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Sorry! I spilled Red Matter all over my Keyboard and You posted that while I was slingshotting around the sun looking for a paper towel.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    NOT ONLY DID BONES CHANGE HIS UNIFORM

    by BringingSexyBack

    he watched Ninja Warrior 2009, parts 1 to 3.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    NEXT TIME I'LL BEAM YOU SOME BOUNTY

    by BringingSexyBack

    It's the quicker picker upper.

  • June 29, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    When People Meet Coincidentally

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    In a Romantic Comedy it's called a "Meet Cute". EVERY Romantic Comedy hinges around that sort of thing.<br /><br />When people meet coincidentally in a Star Trek movie, Geeks argue about it for a month and a half.<br /><br /> Doesn't our precious WRATH OF KHAN hinge around Chekov and his Captain BEAMING DOWN TO THE WRONG FUCKING PLANET? If they hadn't done that, NO STORY. The SCIENCE involved in that little boo-boo doesn't seem to get anyone's panties in a bunch...

  • June 29, 2009, 11:51 p.m. CST

    LIFE IS FULL OF COINCIDENCES

    by BringingSexyBack

    Movies more so.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Cymbalta4thedevil: The Wrath Of Khan Was No Coincidence

    by Media Messiah

    About Star Trek: Wrath Of Khan. There had been some major planetary upheaval in the solar system, and Chekov and his captain arrived on the wrong planet as a result to do a survey. They only realized they were on the wrong planet once they got into trouble. That's not a dumb coincidence, that is just smart writing.<BR><BR>The new Star Trek, however, is full of dumb writing, and dumb coincidences. Like Older Spock being on the same planet where younger Spock maroons Kirk, and elder Spock just happens to be in the same cave as Kirk...to save him just in time from a giant monster...but older Spock, who has been stranded there just by coincidence, by the villains no less, knows that there is a Star Fleet Star Base on the planet, but never seeks it out to warn anybody about Nero's plan??? No, he waits until Kirk arrives, who he doesn't know is coming, to start his Trek to the Star Base...where they find Scotty??? Bad writing, bad writing, bad writing, and more bad writing!!!

  • June 30, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Of destiny contrivances

    by joshuavance1701

    yeah really, tell me about it. Are three or four people so desperate to find fault with this film that they have to invent reasons to hate it? <p> No, no character in any film ever met before, certainly not. People just arbitrarily poof into reality not only knowing other people but, likewise being well established. <p> God forbid we see a character mature into who they invariably are to become. <p> Destiny shmestiny, Orci and crew are said to have borrowed from the TNG episode "Parallels." <p> In a multi-verse, all things being equal, there are tendencies toward some outcome. <p> In an infinite multi-verse, the point is that Spock Prime just happened by chance, not by fate, to appear in a parallel universe in which things were progressing very similar to universe prime, and Nero's incursion fucked that up. Spock Prime set out not to make it right, but rather give this new universe it's best chance at being closest to the Prime universe despite Nero's interference. <p> The concept of the multi-verse is intriguing, it's implications profound. For somewhere, somewhen, it implies Watchmen didnt suck cock, Wolverone was watchable, Assimov lives isn't a douche, mainstream moviegoers despise Transformers and fifteen people on Aint it cool love it, and Charles Tainted Cunt has something meaningful and productive to say. <p> FUCK! How and why did we get stuck in THIS universe?

  • June 30, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Mediah Messiah

    by joshuavance1701

    What kind of shit logic are you subscribing to man? Your argument is powerfully weak. <p> Han Solo just "happened" to be on Tatooine to be hired by old Ben. Han just "happened" to have a change of heart, turn around and save Luke during the trench run. Darth Vader just "happened" to run into Old Ben on a station the size of a planetoid. <p> Come on man get serious that sounds ridiculous you make it sound like someone going out of their WAY to find a reason to bitch and just "happen" to not be applying reason.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST

    "Bones"

    by BurnHollywood

    Perfect example of what a pair of fuck-ups Orci and Kurtzman are...it was well-established that (as DoogieHowitzer said above) the nickname was a shortened version of "Sawbones", an old slang term for a doc.<p> I liked Abrams direction, but please don't let these fucking hacks anywhere near another genre script.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST

    McCoy's nickname

    by joshuavance1701

    Never had it's origins established, therefore, Orci and crew had free reign. The context used in the new film is far more relevant than an archic expression 70 year olds would catch. <p> Orci pal you all did just fine.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Watchmen didn't suck cock

    by CaptainAxis

    I have no idea what you people were expecting in a Watchmen adaptation but it did not suck, damn it.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:31 a.m. CST

    The original was better.

    by ClarenceBeaks

    You know. The one called Star Wars. Love how they remade it and I bet Lucas won't see a dime. Hopefully, the sequel will include a bounty hunter named Bobbo, a scene where Spock Prime admits he is Captain Kirk's true father, and a new character called Lt. Lando Carribean. So much potential.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Joshuavance1701: Han Solo Was No Coincidence

    by Media Messiah

    No, Solo was on Tantooine just being who he is, an illegal hauler, and an all around crook, with zero connection with Ben and Luke; hence, there was no coincidence, there between him meeting Luke and Ben. Luke and Ben were looking for any ship to hire, and if not the Millenium Falcon, they would have hired another ship and captain, therein. Han Solo just simply accepted the job before they could talk to anyone else. That's not a coincidence, that's fate. Now, the Star Wars prequels are another issue. All of them were full of ridiculous, and unforgivable coincidences, film after film--speaking of bad writing, but in Lucas' case, it was all done for marketing and toy sells!!! He wanted an excuse to place C3PO, R2D2, and Boba Fett, and other characters from the original trilogy into the prequels in order to link both trilogies, again, for marketing purposes, and merchandise sells--and that greed, on Lucas' part, hurt the writing of the films.<BR><BR>The problems with the new Star Trek had nothing to do with that, there was just a lack of creativity, and the lack of an understanding for writing good science fiction, as well as a lack of good writing overall...and or, understanding of the Star Trek universe and its rules--somthing I have been pointing out to everyone on AICN.com and elsewhere since the film's release. I mean, billions of Romulans died, and bllions of Vulcans, during the course of the movie, however, time travel is well known in the Star Trek universe, they do it all the time, in fact, from the TV show to the movies, and since that is true...why didn't future Spock travel...foward in time to prevent the destruction of Romulas, and thus, by saving it, Nero would not have traveled back into time, as well, Vulcan would not have been detroyed and Spock's mom and Kirk's father would have lived--the timeline, would have been restored--but future Spock did nothing to fix the timline, knowing all this??? No, instead he purposes creating a new Vulcan settlement for survivors of the planet??? Speaking of saving the planet, and the timeline, the same is true of younger Spock, and young Kirk, they could have traversed back into the past, or upwards into the future...to stop Nero before he could act on his plan, interdicting him when he stole the planet mole ship, or before, or, waiting to destroy the ship as he arrived in the past. By stopping him in advance, they would have restored the timeline, and saved billons of lives...as well as two of their parents, respectively. Why did the writers of the "New Trek" not do that??? Once more, because they don't understand good writing, nor do they understand good science fiction writing???!!! This was just sloppy laziness, akin to the Superman Returns script. The new Star Trek film, in fact, is the Superman Returns of the Star Trek franchise in terms of quality, or should I say, lack of quality...and will leave holes for JJ Abrams to fill for years, if they are not fixed--a similar problem that the makers of Superman Returns face if they are to make sequels, thanks to killer Super Kid?<BR><BR>A better film on the broken timeline theme, is the DVD movie Stargate: Continuum. Rent it, it is actually well done, and the twist ending is rather brilliant!!! Too bad its writers didn't write the new Star Trek film, as they blew it right out of the water with probably 1/100th of the budget of the new Star Trek???!!!

  • June 30, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Klingong cloaking ships? Notebook? by CeejayNightwing

    by arthurrex007

    The Romulans and The Klingons had an alliance in the Original Series. Hence the ability of the Klingon ships to cloak.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST

    PS: Darth Didn't Happen Into Ben--He Used The Force

    by Media Messiah

    They knew each other was there through the force. Vader warned Tarkin, but Tarkin wouldn't listen so Vader schemed to find Ben. Vader found him via his use of the force. As for Ben, he didn't plan on escaping, no, he sacrificed himself to stall Vader so that the others could escape. Vader even said it himself that Ben did not plan to escape. He, Vader, also planted a beacon of the Falcon with a plan to allow the crew of the Falcon to escape with the Princess so the Empire could use that beacon signal to lead the Deathstar to the main rebel base. Again, not a coincidence, just logical good writing. Further, Han returned to help in the battle of the Deathstar because at heart, he is a good guy, a rogue, yes, but a lovable rogue!!!

  • June 30, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Han Solo was Tatooine waiting to meet Jabba

    by lockesbrokenleg

    cause he dropped Jabbas shipment of spices. Also he had a meeting with Jabba scheduled before he met up with Luke and Ben so that's why he was on Tatooine.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Anyone remember

    by darthSaul666

    Tribles? Mudd? Gary 7? The new Trek was close to TOS. Tends to be why myself and many others like it. Some folks who post here definitely have some undiagnosed ADD or something. Or else they may realize that TOS was campy fun once before. The new one had alot of that and then some.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Han On Tatooine, Still Not A Coincidence

    by Media Messiah

    And that is the point.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Nope, Sorry

    by Talandir

    The Klingons didn't have cloaking devices til after they started exchanging tech with the Romulans in S2 of TOS, about 30 years after the beginning of this movie. Also, for those not paying attention, Spock created the black hole to implode the supernova before it could destroy any more planets after failing to get to it in time to save Romulus. Spock's and Nero's ships were unable to escape the black hole and both sent back in time.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Oh and

    by Talandir

    R2D2 piloted the escape pod to the general area where Princess Leia's intel thought Obi-Wan to be living because she programmed him to find Obi-Wan.

  • June 30, 2009, 3:19 a.m. CST

    "It's possible this subplot was cut for plausibility issues"

    by jazzdownunder

    Yeah, cos Nero just doodling around for 25 years was SOOOOOO much more plausible. Like the "Yep, I'm sure that's in the StarFleet regulation" ejection of Kirk from the Enterprise... To the planet utterly devoid of any small forms of life yet curiously capably of supporting a huge, scary monster.... That just happens to chase Kirk into a cave where Old Spokk has been hanging around.... Despite there being a Starfleet science station just over the hill... Where Scotty seems blissfully oblivious to the destruction of Vulcan in the skies above him. Yeah. Plausa-fucking-bility issues.

  • June 30, 2009, 3:20 a.m. CST

    The problem you have, Talandir

    by Fortunesfool

    Is that everything else was so good in those films that you happily over-looked things like that. Most movies are full of plot contrivances but your swept up in the narrative and the characters, so you don't care (or notice)<p>Star Trek was mediocre from the off so you were actually picking it apart as you were watching it. Had Return of the Jedi been badly shot, directed, edited and written then it would probably have been pulled apart as well. But it wasn't.

  • June 30, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Sorry Talandir

    by Fortunesfool

    Mis-read the talkbacks, didn't mean to single you out for that. Sorry.

  • June 30, 2009, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Conspiracy

    by SisterSpooky

    Exactly what I thought of Star Trek. Liked the McCoy character better than the rest of the new cast. Also it was a fun movie but gives you no more to connect. I agree.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Nickn328

    by kwisatzhaderach

    What the fuck have higher ratings got to do with anythng? Stop being a fucking moron and analyse the film on a cinematic level. Do you really think JJ Abrams has got anything on Kathryn Bigelow and Michael Mann? <p> Jesus man, life is short, engage your brain.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:09 a.m. CST

    Nickn328

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Please, stop by and explain why 'higher ratings' prove that Star Trek is a great piece of filmmaking. I'm waiting.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:23 a.m. CST

    I sure as hell hope

    by joshuavance1701

    you dont buy half the bullshit you are talking. <p> So it's a contrivance in Star Trek but not a coincedence in Star Wars? Get the fuck out of here Media Messiah. That is pure hyperbolic rhetoric to the extreme. <p> The point is, events take place to further the plot and narrative. Han Solo by being on Tatooine furthered the plot. How the FUCK is that any different than Nero depositing Spock on a world in relative close proximity to Vulcan, and Kirk being deposited on same world because the fucking Enterprise is nearing Vulcan, you know, in the neighborhood. <p> Talk about the fucking pot calling the kettle black. <p> Anakin building and owning C3P0 is a contrivance, it didn't further the narrative or plot and was disposeable. I think you proud few THREE need to take film-making 101. What you are haphazardly calling conveniences is called advancing the narrative. That's the most ridiculous God damn thing I've ever read. You didn't like the movie fine, but don't pretend liek you are ABOVE it because every criticism you've leveled against it hasn't been worth a power shit.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Kwisat

    by joshuavance1701

    Well let me ask you a question, do you consider Transformers 2 to be an abysmal piece of film-making? It's sitting at 20 percent reviews. <p> Star Trek sits at 95 percent reviews. Explain that. How can critics be so "right" about one film , yet so wrong about another? <p> I'll tell you why, it's because 8 out of 10 people posting on this website about ANY film don't know a GOD DAMN thing about movies, have shit taste in films, and are just pissed your anticipated genre films of the year fucking TANKED at the box office. That's the bottom line.

  • June 30, 2009, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Sedated

    by The StarWolf

    Given that we know TREK medical technology often works in seconds - yes, even back in the first season - and it doesn't take half an hour to change uniforms, no, they didn't make it terribly clear that hours had passed. As for the cloaking devices, if it was known Romulans had them, why did it come as such a surprise to Kirk et all in THE BALANCE OF TERROR episode which had to be at least a few years after the movie's time line?

  • June 30, 2009, 6:46 a.m. CST

    The StarWolf

    by blakindigo

    The movie's timeline exists in a different universe; it's not the same people/events but a parallel universe.

  • June 30, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    YOU JUST NEED TO CHECK YOUR BRAIN FOR NEW TREK

    by BringingSexyBack

    It's not perfect, but oh so much better than the 8 or 9 Trek movies that came before it. <P>

  • June 30, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    BUT DON'T FORGET TO CLAIM YOUR BRAIN AFTER THE MOVIE

    by BringingSexyBack

    You may need it.

  • June 30, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    TITBAG: "SET PHASERS TO PLAGIARISM"

    by BringingSexyBack

    If you wanna use my line, send me a permissions request first, Titfail.

  • June 30, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    WHY DIDN'T LEIA JUST E-MAIL THE PLANS TO THE REBELS?

    by BringingSexyBack

    Or even send them through the galactic postal service? Hmmmm?? Explain that!!!

  • June 30, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    joshuavance

    by Talandir

    Because Old Spock already had a relationship with Kirk and Scotty, where Luke and Obi Wan were meeting Han for the first time. Spock is deposited on a desolate planet and just *happens* to run into younger versions of the Captain he trusts to save the day and the engineer he knows can work "miracles" to make it possible. THAT'S CONTRIVANCE.

  • June 30, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

    And...

    by Talandir

    Because Spock and Scotty both wait around doing nothing while a Federation world with 6 billion people is attacked and destroyed right above their heads. If Kirk had found them at the outpost trying to send out messages to Starfleet or Earth or even trying to recover after Nero attacked them, which he should have, that would be something. But both Spock and Scotty are just sitting around on their hands until Kirk shows up. They're not characters but NPCs in a videogame. They don't do anything useful until the player walks right up to them.

  • June 30, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    SCOTTY INTRO WAS THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CONTRIVANCE'S BACK

    by BringingSexyBack

    I give you that. It was weak as hell.

  • June 30, 2009, 9 a.m. CST

    QUESTION. IF NEW TREK WERE THE FIRST TREK YOU EVER SAW

    by BringingSexyBack

    and you knew nothing about Trek before this movie, would you view these contrivances in the same way? Are we biased because we already know the characters? Is what happened in New Trek plausible in a world where Old Trek did not exist? Can we clear our minds and just go down the new timeline without the old baggage?

  • June 30, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    These Arguments are No Longer Productive

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I'm starting to think people are starting NEW accounts on AICN so they can PRETEND to be someone else and ACT like they haven't read all these other talkbacks and then they ASK THE SAME FUCKING QUESTIONS!<br /><br />Media Messiah (who HAS been in here the whole time) says in his own post that Luke and Ben meeting Han was FATE, not a coincidence? But the Star Trek people AREN'T fated or destined to be together? Then he backtracks and posts all these REASONS for them (and the droids) to be there. But the Star Trek people aren't allowed to have reasons for their actions?<br /><br />FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME YOU POINTLESS PEDANTIC PUTZES: <br /><br />The Movie explains WHY and HOW Kirk is on the ice planet, WHY and HOW Spock Prime is there and WHY and HOW Scotty is there. You may NOT AGREE with the explanations, but the explanations are THERE! <br /><br />The Movie explains HOW Nero got to the parallel universe, WHY he's angry at Spock Prime and WHY he's willing to wait for Spock Prime to get there. It also explains WHY it took 25 years for Spock Prime to get there. You may NOT AGREE with the explanations but the explanations are THERE!<br /><br />joshua vance, myself and several others whose names escape me at the moment (including boborci himself)have REPEATEDLY pointed out how WRONG you people are about this movie. <br /><br />You have a right to your opinion. But if your opinion is NOT an INFORMED opinion, why should we pay any attention to it?<br /><br />WE GET IT. YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOVIE. IT'S SMARTER THAN YOU ARE. IT ACTUALLY EXPECTS YOU TO THINK AND PROCESS INFORMATION THAT IS IMPLIED, INFERRED OR CASUALLY ALLUDED TO. IT'S STRUCTURED SOMEWHAT LIKE A MYSTERY OR A THRILLER, AND DOESN'T START OUT WITH A CREW OF PEOPLE WE ALREADY KNOW SITTING AROUND A CONFERENCE TABLE EXPLAINING EVERYTHING WE'RE GOING TO SEE FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS. I'M SORRY THE MOVIE MOVES TOO FAST FOR YOUR BRAINS STUFFED WITH 40 YEARS OF WORTHLESS MADE UP ON THE FLY "CANON" THAT HAD REDUCED STAR TREK TO A TAIL SWALLOWING OUROBOROS. I'M SORRY JJ'S LENSE FLARES BLINDED YOU TO HOW MUCH FUN EVERYONE ELSE AROUND YOU IN THE AUDIENCE WAS HAVING. AND I'M REALLY SORRY I'VE WASTED SO MUCH TIME IN THESE TALKBACKS ON PEOPLE WHO ARE NEVER GOING TO UNDERSTAND THIS MOVIE, MUCH LESS ENJOY IT!

  • June 30, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    JOSHUAADVANCINGUPMYCOCK

    by TITBAG

    REDEFINES THE WORDS COMPLETE TWAT.

  • June 30, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    SET PHASERS TO STARGATE

    by dioxholster

  • June 30, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST

    I LOVED THE NEW TREK

    by TITBAG

    IN A KIND OF 'WATCHING A RETARD ATTEMPT TO MASTURBATE WHILST OPERATING HEAVY EQUIPMENT' KIND OF WAY.

  • June 30, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil = Rectum-lover

    by dioxholster

  • June 30, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    STARGATE is the new TREK

    by dioxholster

  • June 30, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    FASCINATING TO WATCH COMPLETE PONCES

    by TITBAG

    TRY TO EXPLAIN THE MOST GAPING PATHETIC PLOTHOLES IN THE HISTORY OF CINEMA. FFS. I CAN SEE HOW MAKING ENDLESS EXCUSES FOR THIS PIECE OF SHIT COMES EASY WHEN YOU'VE GOT JJ'S COCKHEAD NESTLED NICELY BETWEEN YOUR PUCKERED ASSHOLE RIM.

  • June 30, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    ALSO FASCINATING: THE MONGS DEBATING THE PONCES

    by BringingSexyBack

    Everybody wang chung!

  • June 30, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Whoa whoa, Media Messiah...

    by D.Vader

    Someone may have already addressed this issue you brought up above, but are you really going to fault the film bc Spock Prime, once he ended up in the past, DIDN'T try to travel into the future?

  • June 30, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    What was Spock Prime supposed to do on the ice planet?

    by D.Vader

    You can't fault the fact that Spock wasn't trying to send messages to Earth or any bullshit like that if he didn't know there was a Federation outpost nearby.

  • June 30, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    No cymbalta

    by Talandir

    The movie isn't smarter than we are. Neither are you! The explanations you listed are in the movie, sure. But they don't make any sense and they don't work dramatically. You're trying to add layers of depth and subtlety that just aren't there. It's a dumb popcorn flick, nothing more.

  • June 30, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    D. Vader

    by Talandir

    Spock DID know there was a Fed outpost nearby. He lead Kirk to it. Even if he didn't, that doesn't explain why Scotty and the little walking prop weren't trying to help or at least panicked and shaken that 6 BILLION people and a major Federation world were just destroyed right above their heads.

  • June 30, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    D. Vader

    by Talandir

    Not MM, but yes I fault OldSpock for not trying to travel back to the future (or to the past) to fix things. Spock knows how to program a starship to time travel fairly easily. That's the whole plot of ST4. So yes he should have at least tried to go back and fix things so that billions of Romulans and Vulcans wouldn't be wiped out.

  • June 30, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    I can't believe people are still arguing

    by oisin5199

    about this movie like little whiny losers. This was the best time I've had in a movie theater since I can't remember when (Iron Man comes close, but damn). I grew up with Trek and Star Wars (yup, was one of my first pg movie experiences) and this was just damn fun - loved the characters, loved how it was shot, loved the story and the reworking of the old story. Finally we have a Trek movie for the masses that's entertaining and injects new life into a dead franchise (and has guaranteed it has life for a long time to come - something no other Trek incarnation can say for the last 15 years) and people can't stop bitching about it. I have the feeling that the only people posting on these Trek talkbacks are the whiners, because the majority who liked the movie don't actually care anymore. You are all children.

  • June 30, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    joshuavance

    by rogueleader66

    8 out of 10 people on here don't know shit about film? Have shit taste in film? Wow you must have read every post by every person that posts on here to come to that conclusion. Where do you get off passing judgement? Because people don't live up to your standards so that makes them idiots? What makes you such and authority?

  • June 30, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Talandir, Spock Prime and time travel

    by D.Vader

    Spock entered the past with Nero waiting for him. There was virtually no time for Spock to figure out how to travel into the future, so I don't see that as a valid criticism.

  • June 30, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    As for Spock Prime and the outpost...

    by D.Vader

    I don't remember Spock pointing Kirk in the right direction, but perhaps he did. Spock Prime probably just felt defeated so I have no issue with him not trying to get to a Federation outpost a few miles away. Ooop, I did just suddenly remember that Spock Prime went with Kirk to the outpost. I had completely forgotten about that. <p> As for Scotty, how far was the outpost? A few miles? So it would have been awhile before they got there? Maybe Scotty had already gotten over the death of Vulcan? His lack of a reaction is suspect. I do need to see this movie again. I remember that not bothering me at all as I saw it.

  • June 30, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    D. Vader

    by Talandir

    what I meant was that after Spock was set free by Nero, then hooked up with Kirk and Scotty, he would have tried to fix things with time travel. Not just send Kirk off to blow up Nero's ship.

  • June 30, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    OH LOOK, BSEXYB IS BACK TO BORE US TO FUCKING TEARS

    by TITBAG

    WITH HIS INANE COMMENTS THAT ONLY COME FROM A PERSON WITH YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN PICKING ONE'S ASS AND SNIFFING THE FINGER AND IMPLORING FRIENDS TO TAKE A WHIFF.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEW TREK AND....

    by TITBAG

    ...GILMOUR GIRLS IS THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS THE VERY OFF CHANCE THAT THE MOTHER AND DAUGHTER WERE GOING TO SMOKE SOME HASH AND LICK EACH OTHER'S TAINTS. <P> OTHER THAN THAT THERE WAS ZERO DIFFERENCE.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    OH LOOK, IT TOOK FAILBAG ONLY 2 HOURS TO WRITE HIS COMEBACK

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Or at least the semblance of one. The Gilmour Girls post? That was done quickly, and it shows.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    We can thank George Lucas for all of this shit

    by YackBacker

    For the past 10 years, we've had this internal geek war and it all started when PHANTOM MENACE arrived and tore our hearts out. Since then, everything sucks, nothing is good and all is wrong with the world. Come on, gang. Hug it out.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    DICKHEADSBACK FAILED ATTEMPT AT....EVERYTHING

    by TITBAG

    HUMOUR JUST ISN'T YOUR GIG YOU FUCKING NONCE. <P> HEY, I KNOW. <P> HOW ABOUT YOU AMUSE US AGAIN WITH YOUR INCREDIBLE INSIGHTS INTO IRAN AND MIDDLE EAST GEOPOLITICAL STRUGGLES. IF YOUR PREVIOUS POSTS HAVEN'T ALREADY MADE EVERYONE WANT TO HACK OUT THEIR BRAIN WITH AN ICEPICK THAT SURELY WILL DO IT.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    ERROR 405: EPIC FAIL

    by TITBAG

    ERROR 405: EPIC FAIL ON THE PART OF BSEXYB <P> #ATTEMPT AT WIT HAS RESULTED IN AN EPIC FAIL. <P> #WIT AND HUMOUR SECTION OF THE BRAIN MAY HAVE BEEN REMOVED, OR YOU MAY NOT HAVE WRITE PRIVILEGES FOR THAT SECTION. <P> #FURTHER ATTEMPTS MAY RESULT IN PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE AND COULD BE EVIDENCE OF SERIOUS RETARDATION. <P> #COPYING TITBAG'S POSTING AND ALL CAPS STYLE IS NOT CONSIDERED HUMOUR NOR CLEVER AND HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EPIC FAIL.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    OH LOOK, WE MADE FAILBAG MAD

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    and look, too, at how he acts like his ponces and mongs posts have been the envy of every talkbacker. Everyone wishes he would fuck off, but I'd rather he stay and prove to us hecan write something original. Just once. How about putting in some effort, sunshine?

  • June 30, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    WHAT

    by TITBAG

  • June 30, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    OH LOOK, FAILBAG IS EMULATING COMPUTER ERROR CODES

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    That's funny right? Can we get some judges in here?

  • June 30, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    THE FAIL CONTINUES...

    by TITBAG

    YOU PATHETIC GIT. I AM THIS FUCKING TALKBACK.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    TITBAG...YOU TALK TOO MUCH...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...and no one cares about your excessive nagging anyway. <p>We get it -- you didn't like the new STAR TREK film. If you don't like STAR TREK, don't watch it. </p> <p>There is no need for you to come here with thousands of terrible attempts at humor and sarcasm directed at this film and the millions of people who liked it. </p> Yes, you really do TALKBACK too much. You also sound like a real asshole. Stick a cork in it...because most of us (if not all but a few) are tired of your rhetorical farts.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    If you get a job, TITBAG...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...you might have a life outside of AICN talkbacks too. <p>Who knows? You might be able to get a house of your own...and even find a girl who *might even like you (I know, a stretch). Regardless, a job will prevent you from being a needless drain on the welfare system. </p>

  • June 30, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    AMEN, CHRISM

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    "rhetorical farts" = Failbag to a T

  • June 30, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    "I AM THIS FUCKING TALKBACK."

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Egotistical + Unfunny = Nuclear Fail

  • June 30, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    PROBLEM IS, WHO WOULD HIRE FAILBAG?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I can get a Mexican to do what he does. Except fail. That he does very well.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Ah, BSB, you fucking crack me up

    by YackBacker

    I chortled at that last one. How ya been, homey?

  • June 30, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    So, uhh...

    by CaptainAxis

    What did you guys think of the new Star Trek?

  • June 30, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    YACKSTA

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Doing well thanks! Even better now that Failbag's crawled away. Did you catch Bayformers 2? I'm skipping it, we're going to see My Sister's Keeper this weekend. Looks fantastic.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    I LOVED NEW TREK

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    As did my bud Yackbacker here. It was all kinds of fun, unlike Failbag's posts.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    WHAT'S EVEN WORSE ABOUT FAILBAG'S FAILS

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    is his capslock draw attention to them. If he had any self-awareness he'd be embarassed. Thankfully he does not, and we continue to be amused.

  • June 30, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    What is there to disagree about?

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    <p>Because really, there's two very obvious points that seem to crop up time and time again. The first is that the movie has a ridiculous number of coincidences/plotholes/deus-ex machina contrivances. And the second point is that the movie is generally very enjoyable. I don't see either of these points as being mutually exclusive.</p> <p>I mean, there will be some people who, because of the plot contrivances, will find the movie unenjoyable. And that's fine. But for a larger segment of the population--as evidenced by the overwhelmingly positive reviews--the movie was enjoyable and entertaining. And that, DESPITE its flaws, it was enjoyable and entertaining.</p> <p>Obviously, that's not to say that the movie was GOOD. I think anyone who has even the most limited discernment of good taste when it comes to movies will realize that ST's plot was its major failing, and that because of it, it wasn't as good as it could have been.</p> <p>But surprisingly, the aforementioned flaws don't detract from the fact that the dialogue, the portrayal of iconic characters and the development of said characters was well-done and satisfactory. It was, after all, enjoyable.</p>

  • June 30, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    DID YOU GUYS WEEP WHEN GEORGE KIRK DIED?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I did. Twice!

  • June 30, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    THAT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE A COMPLETE FAGGOT

    by TITBAG

  • June 30, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    CCCCOOOCKKKUPPPYOOOUURRASSS

    by TITBAG

    HEY YOU AND BDICKHEADB SHOULD GET TOGETHER WITH COCKBACKER THIS FRIDAY NIGHT FOR A DUMPSTER DATE. I'M SURE YOU 3 GIRLS WILL HAVE PLENTY TO TALK ABOUT AS YOU DO ASS-TO-MOUTH. GOBBLE GOBBLE.

  • June 30, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    THAT COULD BE FAILBAG

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Are you trying to have a civilized conversation with me now?

  • June 30, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    MY SISTER'S KEEPER SHOULD BE MONEY WELL SPENT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Cameron's headshaving is all CGI, so no worries.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Star Trek succeeds on all levels, 4 AICN talkbackers bitch repea

    by Tall_Boy66

    The circle of life continues. Everyone loves the movie except for Media Messiah and mabye half a dozen guys on here. Read those reviews again, you know, the majority of FLAT-OUT RAVES and then look at that box office, you know, one of the HIGHEST GROSSING MOVIES of the year and the definite HIGHEST GROSSING MOVIE OF STAR TREK. It's a great flick, there's just some really old Trekies in here who still watch too much DS9.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    I saw TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN

    by YackBacker

    I gotta say, it isn't the worst movie ever made, as so many people are running around claiming it to be. It's a cheesy sci-fi movie with top-notch SFX. It's dumb and goes too long, and I still found it entertaining. But I'll never have to see it again- once was more than enough. People need to lighten up a little. Michael Bay makes dumb movies, we all know this- relax!

  • June 30, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Awwwwww, TITBAG...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...are you upset that someone voiced what the rest of us already know? <p>YOU TALK(back) TOO MUCH!!!</p> <p>Get a job, bro. Of course, an employer would fire you immediately if you continue to act like the asshole that you are here on AICN. Of course, this is probably why you don't have a job anyway. What is your excuse? It is a "mental disability?" Bipolar? Just plain stupid? </p> <p> Nah. You are just an asshole. </p> <p> You flood the talkbacks with your excessive rhetorical farts directed at the faces of everyone who visits these forums. Then you have the idiotic audacity to claim that you are "the talkback." Nope. You are just a hopeless, friendless asshole without a job who seems to need attention. You think that you might be a "somebody" if you can show how "witty" your decrepid rhetorical farts can be. </p> NEWS FLASH, TITBAG: No one really likes you...or any of your other multiple identities on AICN. Your constant posting of insults only cements the fact that no one would care if you died. LOL!

  • June 30, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Hey Asimov- long time no talk

    by YackBacker

    I hope you're doing well, my friend. Hang in there with the Trek fans, your passion is inspiring. Don't let any of us get to you though- like I said to you weeks ago, I don't begrudge anyone disliking JJ's TREK. I enjoyed it, but I see your point.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    He's a bag o' fail.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    A BIG BAG OF STINKING RANCID FAIL

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • June 30, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Asimov, I've been busy lately

    by YackBacker

    Working on something that won't be finished until the end of July, so my time on AICN has been fairly less than normal. But I'll definitely say hello more often. What TBs should I drop in on that are active now? Billy Mays?

  • June 30, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    THE MICHAEL JACKSON TALKBACK WAS EPIC

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • June 30, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    MINNESOTA SUPREME COURT DECLARES AL FRANKEN THE SENATOR

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Hip hip hooray!!!

  • June 30, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    BILLY MAYS WAS ONE OF THE ALL-TIME GREATS

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    A man of honor, charity and integrity. Unlike bag o' fail over there.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    HE WAS A SALESMAN ON THE TELLY

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    He sold all kinds of household products for $19.95 or less, plus shipping and handling.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Good point. I wish I wouldn't have spent $13 to watch TRANSFORMERS 2. I wanted to stand up and shout, "I WANT MY MONEY BACK!" It really was a bad film...hidden beneath $150 Million worth of computer effects. <p>The weird thing? The story wasn't really that bad. While the full script was less-than-par, the story itself had great potential. The great failure, however, was in the direction. Michael Bay seems to have dropped the ball. </p><p>My only solace is that the ball wasn't dropped from very high to begin with because I don't have that much admiration for the man's work anyway.</p> <p>I guess THE ISLAND wasn't that bad. However, I can't help but wonder what that same film would have been like in the hands of Spielberg, James Cameron, Ridley Scott, Ron Howard, or Peter Jackson (...or even JJ Abrams, for that matter). </p> I think that my wife is still angry at me for taking her to TRANSFORMERS 2.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    NOT LIKE THOSE GUYS

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Billy did it with class (unlike Failbag over there), and he sold quality products. Oxyclean was his most famous, and it spawned a whole industry of oxygen-powered cleaning products. RIP Billy!!!

  • June 30, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    I bought the FixIt Pro from Billy Mays...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...but it was a piece of junk. <p>That said: HE got me to spend $20 for a piece of junk. He was a REAL salesman! Great job, Billy. RIP! </p>

  • June 30, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    D.Vader: Future Spock Did Know There Was A Star Base Nearby...

    by Media Messiah

    ...or at least, he should have known??? He's from the future???!!! And what is with the bad guys stranding him on a planet where there is a Star Base on it, in the first place??? Wouldn't their scanners have informed them of its existence, that or their knowledge of the past from their future time??? And what is up with young Spock stranding young Kirk on a planet with a Star Base on it, but he didn't seem to know it ahead of time...and only seemed to find-out after the fact??? Bad wrting, bad writing, and more bad writing!!!<BR><BR>BTW, I pointed out all of this stuff...well before anybody else on these AICN.com Talkbacks and elsewhere.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    OXYCLEAN GETS THE SPUNK STAINS OUT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • June 30, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives - Spock on Hoth

    by son_of_ebert

    "So Spock is in Hoth and he witnessed the destruction of Vulcan. And what he does next, knowing there is a nearby Federation outpost? Does he the logical thing is report to Federation? No, he goes to a cave and sits his ass there. Why?"<p>I know this is probably waaaay past Orci and Kurtz but I rationalized it as Spock Prime needed time to think about what he should do given that he is from the future. Should he fall into the shadows and let the universe unfold unto itself or should he be a proactive participant. When Kirk showed up it forced his hand and Spock did what he could to get baby Kirk back in line. If Spock continues his proactive approach (full-on meddling with the new timeline) this idea will hold water.<p>I don't expect it to though.

  • June 30, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    D.Vader: PS--Older Spock Would Have Restored Time

    by Media Messiah

    That would be true of course, if the script was written right. Older Spock and the original crew of the Enterprise have traveled through time and fixed broken timelines, or threats to the timeline before, as well as other Enterprise crews, i.e., the Next Generation, so why would Spock fail to attempt it here, to restore the timeline??? It makes no sense, and does not square with his past actions, or the past, and or, future actions of the Federation.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Speaking Of Bad Blockbuster Films, "Up", is Terrible

    by Media Messiah

    My family tells me that "The Hang-Over" is great though.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    The most disappointing movie of all time...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I, Robot. <p>I couldn't wait for that story to be made into a film! However, they picked a no-name director, an A list actor, and the worst score for a sci fi film (ever). I always wonder what that film would have been like with Ridley Scott. </p> It is still painful to watch.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    "Transformers SHOULD had been Shakespeare FOR KIDS"

    by CaptainAxis

    Did somebody really just type that? I was a big Transformers fan as a kid, but I recently saw a couple episodes of the cartoon and... it's pretty stupid. Not as stupid as the movie (haven't seen the new one) but still, let's try to grow up just a little bit.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Al Franken stole the seat. Seriously.

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Well, his minions did. The other guy won the initial vote and the recount. However, Franken's allies conveniently "found" some bags of ballots that suddenly put him over the top (after a court challenge allowed him to do so). Then, suddenly, he begins fighting every attempt to count other "found" absentee ballots. <p>However, I don't care. I really, really dislike Barry Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the socialist ideas that are ruining this nation...fast. It really is worse than TRANSFORMERS 2. </p> 'Nuff said.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    cchhhrrriiisssm

    by Stabby

    Shouldn't you be listening to Sean Hannity right now to get your talking points for the day?

  • June 30, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    No, stole it like Al Gore tried in 2000...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...with court orders to recount only the bags of "found" ballots that he wanted.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Yeah, it really broke my heart to see that film. So much potential...with so little return. <p>It reminds me of THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO. No one has ever produced a film that does the book justice. They tend to follow it about halfway through...and then turn it into a Zorro movie. The book doesn't have a typical Hollywood "happy ending," so it is always rewritten. I just hope to see a good adaptation before I die. </p> The same is true with I, ROBOT.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Shakespeare for kids

    by son_of_ebert

    Its called Avatar: The Last Airbender.<p>And no I'm not talking about the movie.

  • June 30, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    AzulTool...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    http://tinyurl.com/y41q <p>Here is proof that Gore would have lost even if every single ballot had been counted again...and again...and again... </p> So much for those silly "Bush stole" conspiracy theories.

  • June 30, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I will have to look that one up! I thought that there would have to be a faithful French adaptation! Gerard Depardieu??? Awesome!!! <p>Yeah, we might not be a socialist nation, but one party's leadership is steering our ship in that direction. They might not be to the left of European socialist-democracy, but it is just a hop and a skip away from what some in Washington seem to want (to the chagrin of many Americans). </p> Regardless of how "left" the left in America might be, there is another long list of reasons pertaining to why I can't stand Barry, Harry and Nancy (the new Three Stooges).

  • June 30, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by CaptainAxis

    Sorry, you're right. That was a kneejerk reaction from my disappointment with the cartoon when I saw it again. Transformers could have been much smarter, but a smarter Transformers script probably wouldn't have been made into a movie. Unfortunately, people like retarded shit.<br> <br> Then again, you get a smart film like Watchmen that stays true to the themes of the book and does something unique with the medium of film, and people like you shit on that too, so I can't blame Hollywood for pandering to the lowest common denominator.

  • June 30, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    AL FRANKEN WON IN IRAN? WTF!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • June 30, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    ccchhhrrriiisssm

    by CaptainAxis

    Remember the lefties who called Bush a Nazi fascist and likened him to Hitler, and how stupid they sounded by resorting to such ridiculous hyperbole? That's how you and your ilk sound with the "Obama is a socialist who wants to turn the US into the USSR" line of thinking. Honestly, step outside yourself and have a look at how silly it is.

  • June 30, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    ccchhhrrriiisssm

    by Stabby

    Maybe you're right that Gore would have lost after all the votes were counted, but no way under any constitutional standards did the US Supreme court have any right to step in and tell the State of Florida it had to stop recounting the votes. Talk about judicial activism at its worst that clearly split the court on party lines. The reason we're moving toward socialism is because the radical right turned this country into a Banana Republic.

  • June 30, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    You little pisshead nerds make me laugh

    by turketron_2

    If Bale was here, he'd laugh too. Star Trek was good.

  • June 30, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Asimov is correct that we have to right wing parties

    by Stabby

    and Clinton was a better Republican than Reagan. Balanced the budget, created NAFTA, sent all our jobs over seas in the name of global free market ideology, took Bin Laden and Al Qaeda as a serious risk unlike Bush who dismissed the warnings resulting in the worst attack on US soil in history, got rid of welfare.

  • June 30, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    STOP TALKING POLITICS!!!!

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Get back to debating Spock on Hoth!! That's a fatwa!!

  • June 30, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Star Trek was just ok...

    by conspiracy

    it was pretty, and fun...but the script sucked balls.

  • June 30, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    FUCK THE SUPREME COURT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Get that Rican lady in there pronto. The Court needs some spice, and the richness of her experience. Chica!

  • June 30, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    FUCK THE SUPREME COURT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Get that Rican lady in there pronto. The Court needs some spice, and the richness of her experience. Chica!

  • June 30, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Can we dabate Federation politics?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • June 30, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    I really hate it when the Federation says we can't use cloaking

    by lockesbrokenleg

    devices. What's the deal with that?

  • June 30, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    About I, Robot

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    Dear God, that was one of this shittiest pieces of film making that I've ever been subject to. Granted, most of my virulent hatred towards that movie is based on the fact that they took nothing from the book except a few tidbits and mutilated Asimov's thought-provoking premise on human (inter)dependence on robots into a Bay-esque film with fights and explodinations. So I probably wasn't really coherent when I was forming my opinion, and I wasn't really judging the film on its own merits. . .but still. Terrible, terrible movie.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    CCCCOOOOCKKKKINYOURMOUTH

    by TITBAG

    I'M THE SWEETHEART OF THE TALKBACKS YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHITE.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    BORINGSEXYHAIRYBACK

    by TITBAG

    YOU'VE MENTIONED MY NAME 20 TIMES IN THIS TALKBACK. DO YOU THINK ABOUT ME WHILST YOU'RE RUBBING ONE OUT WITH THAT BROOMSTICK UP YOUR ARSE YOU PONCE SISSY.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    LOCKSBROKENLEG

    by TITBAG

    SHUT THE FUCK UP

  • June 30, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    TITBAG IS A COMMIEE!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • June 30, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "IT'S OFFICIAL.

    by TITBAG

    4 PEOPLE IN THIS TALKBACK GET IT AND UNDERSTAND. THE REST ARE JUST MINDLESS PUSSY FAGGOTS WHO LIKE THEIR SCI-FI SPOON FED TO THEM BY THE LIKES OF HOPELESS NO TALENT FAILED TV WRITERS LIKE JJ ABRAMS."

  • June 30, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    TITBAG THINKS STAR TREK VOYAGER IS COOL

    by lockesbrokenleg

    HE HAS A JANEWAY FIGURINE!

  • June 30, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "I MISS RICK BERMAN"

    by TITBAG

  • June 30, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "NIMOY IS A SENILE OLD FART"

    by TITBAG

  • June 30, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "SHATNER WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH BRAINS"

    by TITBAG

    "FOR REFUSING TO BE A PART OF THIS DEBACLE. GOOD FOR YOU, BILL. I'M ALMOST INCLINED TO FORGIVE YOU FOR FUCKING MAJEL IN THE ASS BACK IN '68.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST

    TITBAG...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I can't tell if you are just pulling everyone's leg by acting like a TOTAL ASSHOLE...or the remote possibility that you really are as big of an asshole as you appear to be! <p>I hope that you are just a satirical hack using your four different log-in names. I just find it hard to believe that are are a fat asshole that does virtually nothing else but constantly spew nauseous rhetorical sharts (shit-farts) in the faces of everyone who can't seem to stand you. </p>No one can be that much of a real asshole or idiot...right?

  • June 30, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    CCCOOOCKKKIINNYYOOUUURRASSSSS

    by TITBAG

    WHAT?

  • June 30, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "PATRICK STEWART JUST CALLED"

    by TITBAG

    "JUST TO SAY HE'S READY TO GO TO THE MATTRESSES IF JJ TRIES TO PIG GUT TNG LIKE HE DID TOS. AHH. GOOD OLD PATRICK. I MISS THAT BALD HEADED ENGLISH PRICK."

  • June 30, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    TITBAG...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    What is it with your strange fixation with a cock in someone's ass? <p>Is this fixation part of the medicine you take with your mental disability? </p> <p>Of did your Uncle Fred spend too much time with you on his lap as a child? </p> <p> Either way, you might want to get your rectum checked...but by a professional medical doctor this time. </p> Asshole. lol

  • June 30, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    titbag

    by Six Demon Bag

    nurse ratched needs to up the voltage.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG IT LOOKS LIKE I'M YOUR ONLY FAN

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    You'd better start being nice to me.

  • June 30, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Asimov, point well taken RE: Bay

    by YackBacker

    I generally loathe the guy's work, but I am not offended by his TRANSFORMERS work. Are they good movies? Fuck no, far from it. But I am entertained by them the same way I can enjoy a RESIDENT EVIL flick. Actually, those RESIDENT EVIL movies are a bit better done... but yeah, hate on Bay for the reasons you've stated- they're all legit and I share a lot of those sentiments myself.

  • June 30, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    LOL! <p>You're probably right! </p> At the same time, if Michael is both an asshole and an idiot, then TITBAG is the guy that even Michael Bay thinks is an asshole and an idiot.

  • June 30, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    I love this TB!

    by YackBacker

    Asi, BSB, chrism... and even the mammary. What a fantastic exchange, gents. Who the fuck needs to watch TV anyway?

  • June 30, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    That punk they hired to play Kirk could never be cool enough to

    by wintocha67

    Regardless of the explanation. Men like that are gone. We're all a bunch of overgrown children.

  • June 30, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    That punk they hired to play Kirk could never be cool enough to

    by wintocha67

    Call anyone "Bones" with conviction, regardless of the explanation. We're all a bunch of overgrown children.

  • June 30, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    The worst part of TRANSFORMERS 2...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    When Sam (Shia LaBeouf) died and went to robot heaven. Seriously. <p>And how the hell did everyone in Los Angeles forget about the robots that were fighting downtown? Not even a dishonest politician like Obama could weasel or spin his way out of that one! Talk about an "oops" moment! </p> Of course, I don't understand why the chunk of All Spark could bring Megatron back to life...but no one thought to do the same for Optimus Prime.

  • June 30, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Jeff Foxworthy's New Show

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Are Star Trek Haters Smarter Than Fifth Graders? TUES on FOX!

  • June 30, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Gene Roddenberry wasn't L. Ron Hubbard

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    And Star Trek isn't a Religion.<br /><br />You people worship three seasons of a TV show. You refer to these episodes as canon, and any future Star Trek that deviates from this Holy Writ is Blasphemy. This Heretic JJ Abrams must suffer the Flames of Hell! Or at least the flaming of AICN talkbackers...

  • June 30, 2009, 7:29 p.m. CST

    anyone remember LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION?

    by Six Demon Bag

    with Leonard Nimoy from back in the day?

  • June 30, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    I thought Trek fans were supposed to be open minded

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Everywhere I go on a Trek board it's alway,s "Oh it sucks. Oh it doesn't match up with that one episode filmed 20 years ago. Oh where's Shatner?" Gawd.

  • June 30, 2009, 7:38 p.m. CST

    WHAT'S STUPIDER?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    1. Star Trek, for creating a fictional war between Starfleet and the Romulan Empire that lasted for decades (centuries?) yet somehow, in all that time,noone from Starfleet ever SEES A ROMULAN FACE TO FACE until Kirk's crew?<br /><br />2. Star Trek: For using this preposterous idea to sell a twist worthy of M Night Shamalamadingdong: "Romulans...look just like... VULCANS! Only with... EMOTIONS! Ooooooh!" <br /><br />3. Star Trek Fans: For not only buying such horseshit in the first place, but using it as one of many excuses to nitpick the ELEVENTH film in their beloved franchise FOUR DECADES LATER.

  • June 30, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    3.

    by BringingSexyBack

    Definitely

  • June 30, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    RE: Still no fix for the goof

    by AbramsPRIME

    Hey "starwolf" are you retarded???? There WAS a passage of time...(did you watch the movie)....Kirks' been out cold for a while....McCoy has changed into his Doctor uni(did he do THAT in 30 seconds???) and says "Oh Jim good you're awake"...which any MORON could glean that he's been OUT a while.....Typical Trekkies....Idiots with plastic pointed ears!

  • June 30, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    TrekkiegeekPRIME vs NEW Trek....

    by AbramsPRIME

    Any charge of "bad writing, Canon-breaking, continuity busting and the infamous "why doesn't SpockPRIME just go back in time and fix everything so WE Geeky losertrekkies can continue to live in our ShatnerVerse".... TONS of bad writing, bad continuity exist in your pure perfect TrekPRIME Universe and if Time Travel was the answer to everything BAD in Trekland, MOST of the episodes and movies would have been erased from history....A "logical" time travel question can be asked about First Contact (accepted as the "best" of the TNG films)...why didn't the Borg just time travel to a time before the Federation and take over Earth....no need to risk your queen and a Borg flagship fighting though all the Federation can muster....Borg can time travel at will...BAD WRITING......Oldtrek...Kirk Brings Whales and a 20th century Human to the 23rd century...changing the timeline...not explained...BAD WRITING.... NewTREK was fine....held up the proud tradition of Made Up science that doesn't make sense, and time travel that doesn't answer the Pandora's Box it opens. You NEW TREK whiners just don't like the universe that isn't your warm comfortable 40 year old blanket you live your vicarious lives in ('cause you have none of your own...)...GET OVER IT....it's a MOVIE not a way of life....TREK (newTREK the only Trek that matters as far as Paramount is concerned...) has just left you behind....cuddle up with you book and comic and DVD collection of OLDTREK....and cry yourself to sleep with the knowledge that it's ALL you'll ever have, ever again.....you people are pathetic....You're worse than the "George Raped My Childhood" losers who got all suicidal with Eps 1-3......

  • June 30, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Oh and another thing...

    by AbramsPRIME

    "Where no man has gone before"? Finnegan from "Shore Leave"? Didn't happen, can't happen....hehehe....near as I can tell, EVERYONE in Kirk's graduation class aside from those assigned to Enterprise...died at the Battle of Vulcan (and I bet a LOT of the Klingons Kirk would have tangled with died on those 47 Warbirds)...so anyone in your Trekprime universe that Kirk went to the Academy with....is now DEAD.... This could be a great new drinking game to GRATE on STPRIME fanatics....go through the movie and see what episodes/movies have just been wiped away and cannot happen in this new better universe.....this sounds like fun (and good use for your MASTERCanon charts you losers have devised in your parents' basements)...A clean slate is SUCH a creatively freeing thing....maybe NEWTrek can now do something cool and original (2 words that haven't applied to Trek in over 2 decades) without all the FanBaggage to carry....Cutting the hardcore losers loose is the BEST result of JJ's NEW Trek!!!!!!!An organism can't grow and thrive if it's being choked to death by dead tissue....

  • June 30, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Eponymous Star Trek is the new

    by Dingbatty

    Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. At first, everyone praised it as closer to the source and vehemently defended it's flaws, but, after a while, it was okay to say that Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was superior.

  • June 30, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Dingbatty

    by lockesbrokenleg

    What color is the sky in your world?

  • June 30, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Your sky must be green, from all of the

    by Dingbatty

    foliage.

  • June 30, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Asimov Lives

    by rogueleader66

    Hey man, how's it going. have not had much to say in these TB's lately, have looked and seen the same old stuff that's been said many times before, just a bit differently, so I refuse to comment on things I have already commented on before, make any sense? Anyways, all is well here other than last week when I lost a family member to Pancreatic cancer, it was difficult, but we got past it, time to continue living. <P>Hoping Public Enemies is going to be good. I am optimistic, but cautious. I used to think Bale made smart choices, until Terminator Salvation. I did not despise the film, but I did not love it either, and I should have and it smeared my image of Bale a bit, so I am hoping Public Enemies makes up for that.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Holy SHIT breath

    by joshuavance1701

    The imbecile brigade arrived in force, all FOUR of them! <p> Hey Shitterspray you anal-retentive kumquat neanderthal breath mongoloid Roid on my ass, there's a clean up on aisle nine fucker. This time your ass is getting a counseling session. <p> Shitbag, I'll take my regular and add a order of fries, you majestic fat cunt. Hurry up too zit face last time my food was cold. <p> Assimov you unbelievable cunt, I said NO bulk oil you retarded fuck, this time only use bottled. God damn idiots they get working the wal-marts today.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Notice how I am not taking part?

    by Bones

    Aren't you all proud that I am not just jumping in and yelling "I hate the New Star Trek" and "Everything about the New Star Trek is Horrible?" Good thing I said everything in other talkbacks.<p> I mean, I could.<p> My feelings toward the film haven't changed--other than my growing indifference towards where the film series will go.<p> People keep telling me that a new Transformers film came out this past week, written by the same rocket scientists as the first TF and Star Trek as well, and directed by Michael "I AM SUCH A GENIUS" Bay. But I won't see it, as those same people tell me how much the film sucks donkey anus and is more retarded and stereotypical than the last film--which is really saying something as the first Transformers film is really just a long collection of cliche's and stereotypes, from all the robots to the so called human "characters" that populate the rest of the film.<p> But what do people expect at this point?<p> This has been the worst summer film season in recent memory. If not for UP, Moon, (perhaps) Monsters Versus Aliens and possibly Public Enemies (which I haven't seen yet), this summer would be intolerable. <p>Look, I am not a film snob. I am not expecting (or would even like) every film to be an Ingmar Bergman film--I just think that every film should at least try to follow their own rules, and be as smart as it can be. The Characters don't have to know what is going on, but the filmmakers certainly should. The JOB of the filmmakers, from the writers to the directors and cast is to try to explore all the directions they could possibly go and then pick the best way to tell the story. The STORY is supposed to be the most important thing, with all effects, acting, editing and everything else working in service to the story. When the story is weak, the film is weak.<p> The fact that Michael Bay is so well-regarded is mystifying to me, and the fact that Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman have been responsible for the writing of so many dumb, hit films is overwhelming. Do people honestly think that the writers of so much drivel over the years will be able to create anything of any real lasting value? Even JJ Abrams has been hit or miss. People forget the inept storytelling of Regarding Henry, Taking Care of Business, Forever Young and Armageddon (another so-called Michael Bay "Classic").<p> Everyone holds up LOST as an example of JJ Abram's genius, but they forget that it is a TV show, and one that is run by two really talented men, Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof--who are pretty great with long-form storytelling, even when there is the barest of plot to hang all the various story threads on.<p> The fact that JJ and company decided to cut out the parts of the Star Trek story that actually work to explain or finesse the plot (as shown in the above article) shows an ineptitude that is staggering. It reminds me of Star Wars Episode III in the way that it doesn't really have a deep story, so it spends much of it's time quoting or referencing previous versions (and arguably better versions) of Trek rather than let it find it's own voice. Nostalgia can only take you so far. I hope George Lucas got some kind of kick-back, seeing as they used so much of his tricks--even down to the messy, "Garbage-Chic" aesthetic that Lucas pioneered on the first Star Wars film. But Lucas is probably satisfied with the fact that Star Wars has subtly absorbed Star Trek into it's sub-genre.<p> The eternal debate (of which is the better of the two franchises) is over--they are now the same thing.<p> And, to be fair, it is not the filmmakers fault. They were just out to make a quick buck or four hundred million. No, in the end it falls to the audience, who eat up the shit salad that is given to them, to take the blame. We are all culpable.<p> Aren't you glad I didn't say anything?

  • June 30, 2009, 11:46 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by joshuavance1701

    What gives me and makes me the authority you ask? <p> Why because I am the penultimate Trek geek muh lad. I'm the uber Trekker, the fanboy that lives and breathes Trek for oh about 31 years now. I'm that guy. I'm the one that memorizes the dialogue, collects the models,magazines, paints portraits of the characters, I'm that geek muh lad. Oh yes, if you look up Star Trek fan in the dictionary, my shit eating grin is plastered all over it. That's what gives me the authority rogueleader. I know more about Star Trek than Gene Roddenberrys left asscheek.

  • June 30, 2009, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Oh and Roguelader

    by joshuavance1701

    Hows about you, and Shitterspray, and Shitbag, and Assimov, and anyone else have a looksy and gander at my Myspace page www.myspace.com/joshuavance1701 <p> Have a looksy at the recent Via Colori festival I participated in. See me there? Now, when you can do that, THEN we'll talk Star Trek, until then, I don't wan tto hear a GOD DAMN WORD any of you say about anything.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Hey JoshuaVance! How is your summer?

    by Bones

    Dude. How is your summer going?<p> Mine has been pretty much all work, which has been keeping me busy--which is good with all these Dogs of movies out there.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Bones

    by joshuavance1701

    It's been an exquisite summer so far, it's been the summer of Trek with a return to form and abandoning of the bland mediocrity Trek fell into under Berman. What's been going on with you

  • July 1, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Joshua Vance

    by Bones

    Tons of RPG illustration this summer, got some Star Wars projects coming up and trying to get a line of Pin-ups started before Dragon*Con over Labor Day Weekend.

  • July 1, 2009, 7:46 a.m. CST

    joshuavance1701, give rogueleader66 a break dude

    by YackBacker

    They guy just lost a family member to pancreatic cancer. We're talking about STAR TREK for fuck's sake, not anything truly important. Don't be that guy...

  • July 1, 2009, 8:08 a.m. CST

    hehehehehe

    by ClarenceBeaks

    I see that joshua is still foaming and ranting at the mouth about his precious trek...er...uh..Star Wars movie. Love to see a good meltdown on this site.

  • July 1, 2009, 8:40 a.m. CST

    STAR TREK: Dumbest fucking fifteen minutes EVER

    by BurnHollywood

    And I'm not even going to reference time travel:<p> Okay, first we have Spock marooning Kirk on some icy planetoid (imagine if a US Navy sub captain marooned a disobediant) seaman on an iceberg...he could kiss his rank goodbye forever).<p> Let's be conservative and estimate (since it has earth-like gravity...maybe it's denser) that the planetoid has an area the size of the United States. Five minutes of running from some beastie after landing, Kirk bumps into SpockPrime. Fellow American, let me run out my door and see if I bump into YOU within 5 freaking minutes of running.<p> On top of this, SpockPrime is a short walk away (unless Nero left him a snowmobile) from exactly the man they both need, Mr. Scott.<p> Mr. Scott, to put a cherry on top of this, actually has a transporter capable of beaming Kirk and self onto the Enterprise from several light years off, when it's moving at maximum warp, with an accuracy sufficient that it only generates one lame physical comedy bit shortly after arrival as Kirk has to rescue a drowning Scotty.<p> ST Suckups, apologize your way out of that steaming loaf of plot contrivances without using the "gosh, it's only a movie" bailout...<p> Fuck Orci and Kurtzman.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "STILL ASS"

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    WHEN SPOCK SAID 'FASCINATING' WHEN THE CHAIR MOVED

    by TITBAG

    I LAUGHED OUT LOUD IN THE THEATRE NOT BECAUSE WE FINALLY GET TO HEAR THE FAMOUS PHRASE, BUT BECAUSE HE SAID 'FASCINATING' IN APPARENT CURIOUSITY THAT A CHAIR CAN MOVE BY ITSELF IN THE 23RD CENTURY. <P> NOW THAT'S STELLAR FUCKING WRITING RIGHT THERE. <P> FFS. <P> IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. <P> FASCINATING, INDEED. <P> FUCK OFF

  • July 1, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    "HI, I'M SPOCK AND THERE'S A FEDERATION OUTPOST..

    by TITBAG

    ...ON THIS ICE PLANET. RIGHT OVER THERE. WHY HAVEN'T I BEEN THERE YET? BECAUSE JJ AND CO ARE COMPLETE FUCKING NANCY-BOY FAGGOTS WHO COULDN'T WRITE THEIR WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER BAG, THAT'S WHY. SHALL WE GO?"

  • July 1, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    "HI, I'M SPOCK AND YOU ARE SCOTTY..

    by TITBAG

    ...AND THE ODDS OF YOU BEING ON THIS ICE PLANET AT THIS EXACT MOMENT IN TIME ARE POSITIVELY STAGGERING AND I'M JJ AND BOB ORCI AND THE REST WEREN'T SUCH PATHETIC HOMOS WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND STAR TREK I'D GIVE YOU THOSE ODDS IN CLASSIC SPOCK FASHION BUT THE TREK CLIFF NOTES THAT THOSE PONCE FAGGOTS READ DIDN'T MENTION THAT PARTICULAR TALENT OF MINE."

  • July 1, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    "HI I'M SPOCK AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND BLACK HOLES..

    by TITBAG

    ..OR HOW THEY WORK WHICH ONLY PROVES THAT THE CRACK WRITING TEAM FOR THIS ABOMINATION WERE TOO BUSY WISHING THEY COULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE DOLLHOUSE PROJECT THAN BOTHER WITH THE MOST RUDIMENTARY OF FUCKING FACTS ABOUT SPACE."

  • July 1, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    SDB - LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION?

    by son_of_ebert

    On Nickelodeon.. good show.. remember the hmmmm Superman IV fire scene? behind the scenes and the Dark Crystal commentary with the striders.. good stuff there..

  • July 1, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    yes i would kill for those kind of behind the scenes again

    by Six Demon Bag

    LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION!!!! i guess since i was a kid it didnt feel like an ad for a film...but more like actually seeing what it was like to make the films from a technical point of view..told to kids. IM NOT CRAZY it was awesome.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    THERE ARE 2 MOMENTS IN THE NEW TREK

    by TITBAG

    THAT I LITERALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD IN DISGUST AND DISBELIEF IN THE THEATRE. <P> 1. WHEN THE WORDS 'BLACK HOLE' WERE UTTERED. A FUCKING RETARD WITH A TOUCH OF THE DOWN KNOWS THAT A BLACK HOLE ISN'T A GATEWAY TO ANYTHING. MY GOD. EVEN DORA THE EXPLORER HAD AN EPISODE IN WHICH SHE EXPLAINED WHAT A BLACK HOLE WAS. FFS. NO FURTHER EVIDENCE OF LAZY FUCKING HORRID WRITING NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED, YOUR HONOUR. CASE CLOSED. BLACK HOLE. FUCK OFF, JJ. <P> 2. WHEN YELTIN OPENED UP HIS PIE HOLE AND THE ABSOLUTE WORST RUSSIAN ACCENT EVER SPEWED FORTH. MY GOD. I STARTED LAUGHING SO HARD THAT I HAD TO BIT MY FIST IN ORDER TO STOP. JESUS. IT WAS LIKE WATCHING A 9TH GRADER FROM RAPID CITY IOWA DOING A DOCTOR ZHIVAGO IMPRESSION. FFS. AT FIRST I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO CLEAR HIS THROAT AND START TALKING NORMALLY. BUT ALAS....

  • July 1, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    SHALL I CONTINUE?

    by TITBAG

    DO YOU FUCKING PONCE MONGS UNDERSTAND NOW? WE TRUE TREK FANS WEREN'T EXPECTING THE APOCALYPSE NOW OF TREK FILMS. WE WERE, HOWEVER, EXPECTING A MODICUM OF COMMON SENSE AND AT LEAST A 5TH GRADE UNDERSTANDING OF PHYSICS AND SPACE. <P> FUCKING DOUCHEBAGS.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    BLACK HOLE

    by TITBAG

    EVEN THE MERE MENTION OF IT MAKES ME GIGGLE THAN WANT TO BASH MY HEAD IN WITH A BALL PEAN HAMMER.

  • July 1, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    But but but but but but but, Titbag

    by kabong

    The POS had the Trek label on it. <P> If anybody criticizes it, Paramount won't produce another POS with the Trek label on it.

  • July 1, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Calm down, titbag.

    by ClarenceBeaks

    You cannot put Dora the Explorer and Star Trek( movie) in the same post. You insult Dora.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    SPOCK WAS FASCINATED THAT HE'S SITTING IN THE FUCKING CHAIR

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    that his FUTURE SELF sat in, you fucking homeschool dropout. Not because it "moves". <P> I enjoy laughing at your retardation. Keep it up.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    OTHER THAN THOSE 15 MINUTES, NOTHING MUCH TO COMPLAIN ABOUT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Sure, the script could've used a rewrite or three, but overall it's fun and poignant, and easily the best Trek movie ever.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Yack Backer

    by rogueleader66

    Thanks for the sentiments bro, it is appreciated. As far as joshuavance is concerned, whatever, he wants to sit on his high horse let him. I won't even bother telling him that I liked the new Trek. I have said it before, people who have the need to feel superior amongst strangers have more problems than just being arrogant.<P>Asimov, ty my friend your sentiments are also appreciated. The family has come together and things are looking as good as can be, it's behind us now, and like I said, we are still living and must continue to do so, that's what my aunt would have wanted.<P>I have heard a lot of good things about Moon, gonna have to check it out. Yea this summer is not turning out so good. Oh well, it happens, still got the fall season to look forward to, I hope.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG LAUGHED OUT LOUD WHEN SPOCK SAT DOWN

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    and once again the other retards in the theater felt embarassed by his behavior.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    NO, ASIMOV

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    You are wrong. Be like a lot of people but don't be like Failbag. FFS

  • July 1, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives, I have to disagree...

    by D.Vader

    Spock said "fascinating" because the ship's computer remembered and recognized his body (though the future version) and greeted him. It wasn't necessarily the chair moving- it was the ship remembering Old Spock and moving the chair accordingly to fit him, despite the fact that he had never sat in the chair before. I think a ship talking to you by name would be "fascinating". <p> And I did get this scene right, yes? I seem to be misremembering alot of things from the Trek movie... but I seem to recall the ship talking to Spock...

  • July 1, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    D. VADER - YOU LOGIC IS SOUND

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    and you are correct. New Trek has some problems, sure. But that ain't one of them. Any retard can see that.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Billy Mays dies, and....AssimovLives

    by DrMorbius

    There is no justice!

  • July 1, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by rogueleader66

    You know, I said my peace to joshuavance, I will just sit back and watch him make a fool out of himself like most people of his kind always do.<P>Film makers have gotten lazy to be sure, they feel like they can throw some visual effects and some big stars at us and get our money and respect. I lay the blame as much on the film makers as I do the movie going public, who have severely lowered the standards of movie making. I am not citing any one film in particular this year, just in general the last few years with some notable exceptions (Dark Knight, Iron Man, Up). Yea I liked the new Trek, but I am also not blind to the fact that it had its problems no matter how much I may have liked it. Film makers have gotten lazy. I am so sick of hearing how great CGI is. Yea it's great when it is used properly, but it almost never is, it seems to be the lazy way out for making visual effects. They should be used when they HAVE to be used, not for everything, because when something is so obviously CGI, it just takes away from the magic of film, and that sucks. Anyways, here's hoping to a good fall season and a better summer next year. <P>Oh and greetings D.Vader, how are you? Good to see you in TB.

  • July 1, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    BUT DID YOU LIKE THE "SABOTAGE" SCENE?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    That's my fave.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "WOW, A MOTORIZED CHAIR. FASCINATING."

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "WOW, A MOTORIZED CHAIR. I WONDER IF..

    by TITBAG

    ...IT'S GOT A MASSAGE SETTING LIKE THOSE ONES AT LAZ-Y-BOY. FASCINATING."

  • July 1, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    "HI I'M GEORGE KIRK AND I HAVE TO PILOT THIS...

    by TITBAG

    ...STATE OF THE ART FUCKING 23RD CENTURY SPACESHIP ALL BY MYSELF BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS SOPHISTICATED AS THE REMOTE CONTROL CAR THAT I HAD AS A KID, AND ALSO BECAUSE I'M HAVING TO WORK WITH THESE AWFUL PONCE WRITERS WHO CAN'T THINK OF A MORE INTELLIGENT WAY FOR ME TO DIE."

  • July 1, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "WOW, A MOTORIZED CHAIR THAT RECOGNIZES..

    by TITBAG

    ...ME AND DOESN'T BOTHER TALKING BEFORE OR AFTER I RUB MY ASS ON IT. IT'S LIKE THE PERFECT WOMAN. MUCH BETTER THAN THAT FUCKING UHURA WHO WON'T LET ME DO MY VULCAN ASSHOLE PINCH."

  • July 1, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    "HI, I'M SULU AND I GET MY VERY OWN SWORD FIGHTING...

    by TITBAG

    ..SCENE. WITHOUT COCK, OF COURSE. I'M GLAD THAT THE WRITERS HAD TO STOOP TO EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER CLICHE BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING ELSE TO OFFER IN THE WAY OF A...UH...PLOT."

  • July 1, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "WOW. A CHAIR. FASCINATING."

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by DrMorbius

    What's the matter little boy? It's okay for You to call Cameron, Bay, Snyder and Abrams assholes and idiots (does it bode well for you then?) but don't make fun of my nick *boo hoo*.<P>Why the Fuck don't you grow up? Your relentless crusade,no matter what the subject matter of the TB, you have to get a dig in about Abrams Star Trek.<P>Don't bother responding to this post, don't care, won't read it, too busy reading a new book I found,<P>The Art of DOUCHEBAGGERY...by...AssimonLives...fascinating!

  • July 1, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "MEETING MY FUTURE SELF DIDN'T WARRANT...

    by TITBAG

    ...A 'FASCINATING', BUT THAT BITCHIN COOL MOTORIZED CHAIR CERTAINLY DID."

  • July 1, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    DRMORBIUSAWFULFUCKINGSCREENNAME

    by TITBAG

    SHUT THE FUCK UP

  • July 1, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "A CHAIR. FASCINATING."

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Well, I fully endorse your "dumb smart-ass quips" and "namecalling". Because it is UNBELIEVABLE to me that a month later, AssimovLives is STILL bitching about STAR TREK.<P>It's clear that the man-child has no life. Sad.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    SULU'S RETRACTABLE SWORD WAS AWESOME

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Why don't they sell that as a toy?

  • July 1, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    FIRE EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I loved that too.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE FEDERATION....

    by TITBAG

    ...WAS PAYING ATTENTION AT THIS SUN THAT'S GOING NOVA. NOT BECAUSE THEY AREN'T SMART, BUT BECAUSE THE WRITERS OF THIS COMPLETE TURD HAD THEIR HEADS FIRMLY UP THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES."

  • July 1, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    THESE ARE NOT YOUR FATHER'S BLACK HOLES

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    They're special black holes created by red matter. They don't behave like other holes.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Mr.NiceGaius

    by DrMorbius

    Thanks, and his username is an insult to one of the Greatest SF Writers of all time!

  • July 1, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "I WAS SENT ON THAT CRITICAL MISSION...

    by TITBAG

    ...INSTEAD OF SOMEONE HALF MY AGE AND TWICE MY PILOTING SKILLS BECAUSE THE WRITERS WERE COMPLETE LAZY PONCE FAGGOTS WHO, GOD LOVE EM, JUST COULDN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER WAY TO DRAG SENILE NIMOY INTO THIS THING."

  • July 1, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    THE FEDERATION WARNED ROMULUS ABOUT THE SUPERNOVA

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    But Romulus initially refused assistance. It wasn't until the people rose up and demanded that their government act in their interest that they accepted Spock's help.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    BORINGISBACK

    by TITBAG

    SPECIAL BLACK HOLES. I'M GOING TO REMEMBER THAT PHRASE FROM YOUR STUPID FUCKING PIE HOLE FOR AS LONG AS I LIVE. AND WHEN YOU DIE I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THEY CARVE THAT ON YOUR TOMBSTONE YOU FUCKING DOUCHEBAG. <P> SPECIAL BLACK HOLES. FFS.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    SPECIAL BLACK HOLES

    by TITBAG

    GOD. KILL ME NOW.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    IN FACT, I'M SURPRISED JJ AND ORCI AND THE OTHER..

    by TITBAG

    ...NONCES DIDN'T ACTUALLY USE THAT TERM. <P> RIGHT NOW MY SPECIAL BLACK HOLE IS TELLING ME IT'S TIME TO TAKE A DUMP. DON'T GO AWAY AND I'LL BE RIGHT BACK. DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON ANY MORE OF YOUR GEMS.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    THAT WAS A GIFT, FAILBAG

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I thought for sure you'd be drawn to the other line "they don't behave like other holes". You can do something with that, you have my permission.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    YES

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    God. Kill him now.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    AyatollahSexyBack

    by DrMorbius

    WTF?! Sulu's retractable sword ISN'T a toy?

  • July 1, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "THOUGH EVERY EFFORT IN PREVIOUS...

    by TITBAG

    ..TREK SHOWS AND MOVIES WAS MADE TO REVERSE TIME TRAVEL CRAP, THE WRITERS HERE WERE NOTHING BUT DULLARDS WHO BARELY CONCEIVED THIS HORRID FILM AND WERE INCAPABLE OF FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH FIXING THE TIME TRAVEL MESS. I MEAN, FFS."

  • July 1, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF MORBIUS

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    If you come across it, alert me ASAP!!!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    I LOVED HOW SULU AND KIRK SAVED EACH OTHER ON THE DRILL PLATFORM

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    That's the essense of Trek right there.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    BRAVO 6 MANUEVER FULL THROTTLE!!!!

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Divert all power to forward shields!!!! Fire everything!!!!!!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    IT'S OFFICIAL. NEW TREK SPITS ON CORPSES OF EPS. 1 TO 6

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    IS USERNAME ORCILIVES TAKEN YET?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Ayatollah....Sulu's Retractable Sword

    by DrMorbius

    Thats what titbag has tattoed on his middle finger, to attend to his special black hole!

  • July 1, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    RogueLeader, I'm good, how are you?

    by D.Vader

    Glad to see you're back around, though I am sorry to hear about the death in your family. My condolences.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    I HOPE THEY MAKE NEW TREK ORIGINS: HIKARU SULU

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    with Ke Huy Quan as young Sulu.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    WHAT HAPPENED TO ROGUELEADER'S FAMILY?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    His Aunt passed away.

    by DrMorbius

    Sorry for your loss rogueleader.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    ERROR 405: EPIC FAIL

    by TITBAG

    ERROR 405: EPIC FAIL ON THE PART OF BSEXYB <P> #ATTEMPT AT WIT HAS RESULTED IN AN EPIC FAIL. <P> #WIT AND HUMOUR SECTION OF THE BRAIN MAY HAVE BEEN REMOVED, OR YOU MAY NOT HAVE WRITE PRIVILEGES FOR THAT SECTION. <P> #FURTHER ATTEMPTS MAY RESULT IN PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE AND COULD BE EVIDENCE OF SERIOUS RETARDATION. <P> #COPYING TITBAG'S POSTING AND ALL CAPS STYLE IS NOT CONSIDERED HUMOUR NOR CLEVER AND HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EPIC FAIL.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    SORRY ABOUT THAT, ROGUELEADER

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Sincerest condolences ...

  • July 1, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Vader, Morbius

    by rogueleader66

    Thank you for your sympathy, things are slowly getting back to normal.

  • July 1, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    TITBAG, do you type with your nose?

    by TurdontheRun

    I'm assuming your arms and hands are tightly secured within the straightjacket?

  • July 1, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    SULU WAS PERFECT FOR THE MISSION

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    because it's well known that Romulans prefer fighting with swords. And lo and behold, Sulu's skills came in handy. <P> And when he fell off the platform, Kirk dove to get him without a nanosecond's hesitation. That's not heroic?

  • July 1, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Ayatollah

    by DrMorbius

    Think they'll come out with a doll of Scotty's helper? When you pull the string, he "talks".<P>Best part of New Star Trek, NO Gay Ass Tribbles!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    IN THE 23RD CENTURY, ALL SWORDFIGHTING DISCIPLINES ARE UNIFIED

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    under the umbrella term, "fencing". <P>

  • July 1, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Cause, you know....

    by DrMorbius

    Tribbles were the essence of the POS TOS!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    I LOVE SCOTTY'S FRIEND!!!

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    So glad he came onto the Enterprise at the end. I hope he gets a bigger role in the sequel.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Should call it....

    by DrMorbius

    UMBRELLENCING, with umbrellas with sharp points. And if it starts to rain, well, there you go!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG: "SET COURSE FOR FAIL ... PUNCH IT!!!"

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    They could go to a planet....

    by DrMorbius

    populated by millions of them, then zoom in and we see a statue of Chewbacca, their God!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    NO NEED FOR UMBRELLAS IN THE 23RD CENTURY

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    They solved the rain problem.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    PUNCH IT!

    by DrMorbius

    Much better than, Engage!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    I LAUGHED OUT LOUD AT "WICTOR WICTOR 2"

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    But so did everyone in the audience. <P> Unlike when Failbag LOLs, and everyone wished they didn't allow retards in.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    PUNCH IT!!!!!

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Yes, I love that line!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    I didn't know they had .....

    by DrMorbius

    Singer Machines in the Future, until I heard Picard say...<P>"Make it sew"!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    PICARD: "ENGAGE!"

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Riker: "We're already married, sir." <P> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    I've already written down that "engage" joke BSB

    by D.Vader

    You're 3 years too late! I've got it copyrighted!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    How about when Kirk......

    by DrMorbius

    was Banging that Green Orion Chick, and Uhura walked in, would've been a perfect time for a three way! Maybe it'll be on the DVD!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    I KNOW I BROUGHT IT BACK IN THE REPLIGN

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    You got some good stuff back there!!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Sorry Vader

    by DrMorbius

    I've been telling it for years too. Didn't know you copywrighted it. Where do I send the royaly checks?

  • July 1, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    ASIMOV

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    That's common knowledge, dude. Shamawn.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Send them to Happy Dude at PO Box 1511 Springfield...

    by D.Vader

  • July 1, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    What's "the replign"?

    by D.Vader

  • July 1, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Vader

    by DrMorbius

    Is it a flat fee, or a discount for amount X's .....

  • July 1, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    TITBAG: "WE'VE REACHED VULCAN SIR."

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Titbag Sr.: "Prepare the drill." *Unzips pants* <P> Titbag: "Launching red matter sir." *Lubes asshole with ketchup* <P> Titbag Sr.: "Punch it!!!!"

  • July 1, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    THE REPLIGN IS AICN'S OWN TIME MACHINE

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Did....

    by DrMorbius

    Scotty's "dog" have a name?

  • July 1, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    CHRIS PINE'S KIRK TAKES THE PAIN

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    so others won't have to. <P> Shatner's acting: painful.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Ayatollah......Re:Titbag

    by DrMorbius

    NICE!!!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    I just googled "replign"

    by D.Vader

    And you're the only person to have ever used it, BSB, and it was in another Trek TB. You make that up?

  • July 1, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    NOT ME, VADER

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Someone else did, I picked it up ...

  • July 1, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Dr. Morbius, the more X's the better

    by D.Vader

  • July 1, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    THANKS MORBY

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I hope Failbag likes it too.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    You picked it up...

    by D.Vader

    ...By using the replign. Dirty!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    The REAL reason Shatner wasn't....

    by DrMorbius

    in the New Star Trek.<P>They would have to build another ship, just to carry his FAT ASS around.<P>Wasn't in the budget!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    ASB and BSB are one and the same?

    by DrMorbius

    Or has BSB "retired"?

  • July 1, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    HEHE

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Always sanitize the Replign before using it. You never know what the other talkbacker did in it.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    YES, I AM BSB

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Just have different names logged in different comps ...

  • July 1, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    "CHRIS PINE HAS A ROCKING BODY"

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    - Titbag, 2009

  • July 1, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Spock's birth(s)

    by berserkrl

    Given that we saw Spock's birth in Star Trek V and saw that Sarek was present, it's a good thing they cut the scene of having Spock's birth again, this time with Sarek absent.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    LATER Y'ALL

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Let's take this talback to #1!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Maybe if I get in the REPLIGN.....

    by DrMorbius

    and go back before D.Vader copyrighted......

  • July 1, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    ERROR 407: EPIC FAIL CONTINUING

    by TITBAG

    ERROR 407: BSEXYB IS TRYING TO USE BRAIN. <P> #ATTEMPT AT USING BRAIN AGAIN HAS FAILED. <P> #CAVITY IS PROBABLY EMPTY. <P> #BANG HEAD AGAINST WALL TO CHECK. HEADACHES ARE A GOOD SIGN.

  • July 1, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "I'VE NEVER BEAT MAJEL HARDER...

    by TITBAG

    ....THAN FOR WHEN SHE AGREED TO BE A PART OF THIS DEBACLE. NOT EVEN WHEN SHATNER FUCKED HER POOPER AND GAVE HER A DIRTY SANCHEZ BACK IN '68."

  • July 1, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "NIMOY I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU..

    by TITBAG

    ...YOU FUCKING PRICK."

  • July 1, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    STILL FASCINATED BEYOND FUCKING BELIEF

    by TITBAG

    HOW CAN ONE NOT BE? A MOVING CHAIR ELICITS A 'FASCINATING' RESPONSE FROM SPOCK. <P> ONLY IN JJ'S PEDESTRIAN VERSION OF STAR TREK COULD THAT EVER POSSIBLY HAPPEN.

  • July 1, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    RED MATTER. FFS.

    by TITBAG

    RED MATTER. JESUS. EVEN THE VOYAGER WRITERS COULD HAVE COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME THAN 'RED MATTER'. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE WRITERS TABLE THAT DAY. <P> "OKAY, WE'VE GOT THIS MCGUFFIN TYPE SUBSTANCE THAT SPOCK IS BRINGING TO SAVE ROMULUS. WHAT SHOULD WE CALL IT?" <P> "WELL. IT'S REEEED. AND IT'S MATTER." <P> "YES BOBORCI, I LIKE WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THIS. CONTINUE." <P> "THANKS JJ YOUR HIGHNESS. WELL, IT IS RED. I MEAN, REALLY REALLY RED. IT LOOKS SO YUMMY LIKE I WANNA EAT IT. <P> "YES BOBORCI, TALK TO ME BOB." <P> "WELL, IT'S RED RED RED. AND IT'S MATTER. HOW ABOUT.......UH....DUH.....UM....." <P> AT THIS POINT EVEN JJ THE RETARD GETS IMPATIENT WITH BOBORCI AND HIS DULLARD'S MIND <P> "LOOK BOB. IT'S RED MATTER OKAY? DONE."

  • July 1, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "IN THE 23RD CENTURY THEY CAN TRANSPORT..

    by TITBAG

    ...A GRAIN OF SAND ONTO A KNAT'S ASS, BUT THEY CAN'T GET A LOCK ONTO MY MOMMY BECAUSE THE WRITERS ARE TOTAL LAZY FUCKS WHO CAN'T WAIT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PEDESTRIAN TV PILOT AT FOX."

  • July 1, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    SCOTTY'S ASSITANT NEEDS A SPIN OFF

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Keenser - he picks up chicks at bars around the galaxy.

  • July 1, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    SCOTTY'S ASSISTANT WAS THE EWOK OF THE NEW TREK

    by TITBAG

    AND THAT PRETTY MUCH SAYS IT ALL, REALLY.

  • July 1, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    LOL Asimov...

    by YackBacker

    That was a good one re: the moving chair. Ah, I just rewatched that scene all the way through to the end. I still get a giddy smile from the movie, I'm sorry buddy. I just feel like they've recaptured the fun of TOS, something that has been lacking for decades.

  • July 1, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    THE TOS WAS NOT FUN YOU FUCKING NANCY-BOY

    by TITBAG

    CHRIST. OH, TOS WAS SO NEAT AND FUN! <P> IT WAS NEVER FUN. <P> IT WAS SCIENCE FICTION PERFECTION YOU TWAT. THOUGHTFUL AND THOUGHT PROVOKING. <P> THE ONLY THOUGHT THAT THE NEW TREK PROVOKED WAS HOW BADLY I WANTED TO CUT OFF MY HEAD WITH A CHAINSAW ABOUT 5MIN INTO THE FILM. <P> AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND EITHER SCIFI OR TREK THINK THAT 'FUN' IS THE ANSWER. TREK HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT EXPLOSIONS AND DULL OVERUSED RETARDED QUIPS. FUN WAS AN ACCIDENT AT BEST, AND THANK GOD FOR THAT. <P> UNLIKE YOU PIMPLY PASTY WHITE DOUCHEBAG SUBURBAN MUTHERFUCKERS WHO THINK THE NEW TREK WAS 'REALLY NEAT', I ACTUALLY DON'T NEED MORONIC FUN.

  • July 1, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "TREK WAS NEVER ABOUT FUN"

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    FUN IS...

    by TITBAG

    ....STICKING MY THUMB UP A GIRL'S ARSE. <P> ...MAKING BSEXYB LOOK LIKE AN ASS. SO EASY, TOO. <P> ...READING RODDENBERRY'S QUOTES IN THESE TALKBACKS. <P> ...WATCHING YOU NONCE FAGGOTS FLAIL AROUND IN YOUR EXPLANATIONS OF GAPING PLOT HOLES. <P> ...A MICHAEL BAY MOVIE.

  • July 1, 2009, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Man, you're a strange person, TITBAG

    by YackBacker

    Well, you've got my attention now with your ranting. Now what are you going to do?

  • July 1, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    ASIMOVLIVES

    by TITBAG

    IS THE ONLY ASSHOLE AROUND HERE THAT DESERVES TO STAY IN THIS TB. <P> THE REST OF YOU FUCKING SISSY'S CAN LEAVE NOW AND JOIN THE NEW SODERBERGH TB. NONE OF YOU ASSWIPE TWATS WILL UNDERSTAND HIS NEW FILM, BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVE A KIDDIE POOL IN THAT TB IN WHICH YOU CAN ENJOY YOUR SPLASHING AND FROLICKING.

  • July 1, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    SODERBERGH: "MY KIDDIE POOL IS NOW OPEN"

    by TITBAG

    "IN THE INFORMANT TB. ALL YOU GIRLS ARE WELCOME!"

  • July 1, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    BUTTBACKER

    by TITBAG

    NOW WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE YOU ASKING ME TO DO? GIVE YOU A REACH AROUND?

  • July 1, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    BAY = TRAINWRECK FUN

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Titbag

    by AbramsPRIME

    You ARE on Drugs aren't you...or just and incredibly FULL OF HIMSELF ASSFUCK....you pick!

  • July 1, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Titbag

    by AbramsPRIME

    You ARE on Drugs aren't you...or just and incredibly FULL OF HIMSELF ASSFUCK....you pick!

  • July 1, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    THAT IS A TOUGH CHOICE INDEED YOU TWAT

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Titbag

    by AbramsPRIME

    ...Either way, you're an incredibly sad person to get so worked up over a movie...and a pretty good movie at that (but you probably prefer "Final Frontier" 'cause you're sexually aroused by Shat's hairpiece...)

  • July 1, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    I SEE NO DIFFERENCE...

    by TITBAG

    ...BETWEEN NEW TREK AND ANY OF BAY'S OR RATNER'S FILMS. <P> ABSOLUTELY NONE. <P> MINDLESS SHITE AIMED FOR THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR WII GENERATION THAT WOULDN'T KNOW GOOD SCIFI IF IT CAME AND SMACKED THEM ACROSS THEIR PUFFY PASTY WHITE HEADS.

  • July 1, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by YackBacker

    This is a good conversation- I don't want to let stuff fall through the cracks- first, about Berman and Braga- the reason they lost me as a Trek fan wasn't that they rendered the material too "nerdy" but that they lost touch with the interpersonal relationships with the characters. The show became this insular universe where there was no real emotional attachment to what was happening on screen. It got so bad for me that by NEMESIS, when Data died, I yawned. I thought "Well, that was silly" and wrote the entire movie off as a mish-mash of KHAN and other past TREK stories. I felt that Berman was uninspired and he basically did what the suits wanted him to do all along- put out a safe product that was a carbon-copy of previous material. He did some good work when he started taking over TNG, but by the time TNG ended, he was toast. And Braga... he just sucks. I never liked anything he wrote on his own for TREK.

  • July 1, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    But to be clear

    by YackBacker

    TREK was dead by the time Abrams got to it. <p> Now, I have to run out for a little while, so my replies to your next post won't happen right away, but we'll pick up in a bit.

  • July 1, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    In other news, another celebrity died today

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Expect headlines.

  • July 1, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    hey "titbag"

    by AbramsPRIME

    Good SciFi? What do YOU know about good SciFi... Near as I can tell, you're a fat, socially inept, TrekPRIME obsessed loser living in your parents basement who THINKS he' knows what's good but frankly, can't do ANYTHING creative in this world so all he does is piss on other peoples work.....You're like Fat Harry Knowles Evil Pathetic twin, just more bitter because he attained some internet fame and money from his obsession and all you can do is rant on HIS site's talkback....remember those who CAN'T DO, Review...and they can't hide their bitterness about their failed lives.....

  • July 1, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST

    And here's the "OFFICIAL...

    by AbramsPRIME

    Trek Quality list: 1) City of the Edge of Forever 2) JJ's TREK / tie with Wrath of Khan 3) Best of Both Worlds 4) Inner Light 5) The Menagerie And I could give a Fuck about "canon and continuity".....read em and weep losers!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    and by "Menagerie"

    by AbramsPRIME

    ...I mean "The Cage" unaired pilot sans the framing court martial story.....

  • July 1, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Well, at least we got some pretty kick ass toys bsaed

    by lockesbrokenleg

    on the Classic series. Already have the phaser and communicator. Need the tricorder.

  • July 1, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    TREKPRIME...

    by AbramsPRIME

    is what WE (the majority) who liked NewTrek (JJ Trek if you will)call the now insignificant, wiped from existence or relegated to "another universe" Trek....aka "shatnerverse" aka "canonverse for losers" aka collectively TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENTERPOOP/ and movies 1-10 (minus "Khan" of course).....plus all your ridiculously convoluted comics, pulp paperbacks, role playing games, fan fic/s&M Gay slash fiction and whatever the fuck else you tiny minded pablum eating losers call "Canon".....that's what "TrekPRIME" is..... You're actually WHINING about terminology ("how dare you....it's TOS!!!!!!" So sez I!!!!!!!)....Pathetic....all of you...

  • July 1, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I thought Kirk in the Nexus could have somehow sent Spock back?

    by Smashing

    It would give a handy explanation and W.Shatner a chance for a heroic "safe journey old friend" moment thus killing two targs with one stone.

  • July 1, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    although actually...

    by AbramsPRIME

    as someone else sez....for all you "canongeeks"....Enterpoop the Series still exists in the New Trek universise since it predated Kelvin.....HAHAHA....that must stick in your CRAW losers!!! But that's no more awful than all you ContinuityNuts claiming the PRIME universe makes sense....really: Khan's world war vs Voyager's time trip to 1999 (or 2001 whatever) time trip to modern LA.....explain that on your Master Canon chart idiots!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    hey AsimovLives...

    by AbramsPRIME

    NEVER claimed to be a "trekkie" (that would be like proudly claiming to be a Fucktard)....I haven't seen EVERY trek, I don't obsess over "canon and continuity" and can accept that one movie or episode contradicts another because I know that different teams over the years did different versions of the property (yes PROPERTY....it's a moneymaking operation...)...As someone who "likes' but doesn't "LIVE" trek, I think JJ's relaunch was fine....not perfect but fine....certainly better than the last 3 or 4 trek films and last couple of TV shows....but go ahead, rage, rage RAGE against JJ Abrams...it's not like HE cares (or I for that matter) what you tiny minded zealots think....and enough with "Roddenberry would roll in his grave...they raped his vision"....Roddenberry gave us TNG seasons 1 and 2 (crap even by hardcore geek's opinions) and he HATED "Wrath of Khan" when it came out....look it up!

  • July 1, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    "Balance of Terror"

    by AbramsPRIME

    Superior"? It was OK....just a space rip off of "Run Silent Run Deep" (a Great movie) done on a TV budget...

  • July 1, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    TITBAG IS AN "INTERNET TOUGH GUY"

    by BringingSexyBack

    He shows all the symptoms.

  • July 1, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    What's a "parale" universe????

    by AbramsPRIME

    If you mean a Quantum Mechanics derived parallel universe....sure, it's a throwaway....you don't buy it? GREAT....that mean ALL YOUR TREKPRIME has been erased from history....I got no problem with that....The Burton "Batman" movies (and unfortunately the Schumacher pair also) still exist with the 2 Nolan masterpieces...does Brannagh's version of Shakespeare destroy Sir Lawrence's version....no they both exist....get over you "only one unified Trekgeek universe" obsession....no wonder the public turned away from Trek over the years....it's become so insular and intolerant of other points of view. You don't like NewTrek? Fine....you still have your cardboard set TrekPrime on DVD....Let it go, it's not like your going to convince Paramount they made a mistake given the grosses and reviews...Your Trek is done....move ON...get a life.....

  • July 1, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    It just goes to show...

    by ColinSL

    How a script can depend so heavily on the director. The same writers hand JJ Abrams a script and he makes a masterpiece out of it-- They do the same for Michael Bay and-- Well... You get the cinematic equivalent of huffing AJAX. -Colin Raise your child Christian or atheist? http://tiny.cc/KMjO3

  • July 1, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    So all you people are home watching The Motion Picture

    by lockesbrokenleg

    and watch in amazement at all those actors staring at a viewscreen?

  • July 1, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    RE: Balance of Terror...

    by AbramsPRIME

    um....aside from setting it IN SPACE...what exactly is the "great SCIENCE FICTION" in "Balance of Terror"? 2 enemies, different ideologies, similar personalities, one ship (the "submarine") invisible to the other (the "battleship")....allegory/rip of of great sub movie?...yes....great "science fiction TV writing"....uh no.....try looking at Rod Serling's GREAT SCIFI TV writing and 'Run Sil---er "Balance of Terror" is just 'OK.'...

  • July 1, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    And "Balance of Terror"....

    by AbramsPRIME

    according to your worldview, doesn't EXIST anymore since you don't by the "Bob Orci Parallel Universe bullshit"....so it's been erased from history...so no need to argue about it...come to think of it....according to you...NONE of YOUR Star Trek exists anymore...so stop arguing about a nonentity....makes you look Crazy!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Come on. TMP was BORING. It was NOT TREK

    by lockesbrokenleg

    At least NEW TREK was fun and fun to watch.

  • July 1, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    And Quantum Mechanics....

    by AbramsPRIME

    and String Theory for that matter...is the area of study I got my degree in...and Star Trek (and every scifi/space movie) breaks the rules of the current theoretical models....but the 'infinite parallel universe theory" is actually NOT busted up by NewTrek (though their view about Black Holes IS technobabble made up Trekscience....)...

  • July 1, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    actually TrekPRIME..

    by AbramsPRIME

    ...actually refers to YOU...the TrekPRIME universe fans (where SpockPrime came from) is YOUR beloved universe. I like in the now of JJ's NEWTrek universe....you know the fun, Successful one that will spawn several sequels..... I understand how you could get confused...you're not too bright after all....hehehehe...

  • July 1, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    asimovlives....

    by AbramsPRIME

    You actually, with all your rants and insults, haven't explain where the "great SCIENCE FICTION' is in "Balance of Terror" since we both agree it's just a submarine rip off episode.......c'mon show off your Big TrekBrain!!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    UH OH, ASIMOV JUST STEPPED IN TEH SHIT

    by BringingSexyBack

    AbramsPrime - those black holes created by red matter are special ones. They were discovered by Dr. Toshiro Kaku in 2387.

  • July 1, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives....

    by AbramsPRIME

    Again more ranting and insults but STILL can't explain the "Great SCIENCE FICTION" part of Balance? Run out of arguements for a NON EXISTENT universe...(and you still don't get it...by the naming conventions of "SpockPRIME"....YOU ARE the "TrekPRIME" fan.....your lack of intelligence really does put to shame your so called namesake "Asimov"......

  • July 1, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    To be correct it was "fun" but

    by SisterSpooky

    Not Star Trek fun. Asimovlives is right about B&B guys and JJ. I liked the New Star Trek film. But I won't call it true ST film. Yes, it did have a lot of references but it had "Star Wars" feel to it. A very unusual feel to the Trek franchise. I loved the action though (true to the style of JJ) but as for true Trek. Still remains to be seen come the next film, once they make it.

  • July 1, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    I AGREE: NEW TREK IS NOT A TRUE ST FILM

    by BringingSexyBack

    It's better. Old Trek doesn't exist anymore, deal.

  • July 1, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Can't we like both Trek whatevers?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I like TMP, but I like the new movie too. How can anyone not like it? It's fun, and it doesn't adhere to some episode made 20 years ago.

  • July 1, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST

    TMP WAS PURE TREK YOU FUCKING RETARDS

    by TITBAG

    MY GOD THE WONDERS NEVER CEASE WITH YOU GIMPS. TMP REMAINS ONE OF THE BEST OF THE ENTIRE CANON YOU RATFUCK BASTARDS. KILL YOURSELVES NOW.

  • July 1, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    ABRAMSPRIMEDANDPUMPED

    by TITBAG

    I'VE REGISTERED WITH AICN PURELY TO INFORM YOU THAT YOU ARE A COMPLETE TWAT.

  • July 1, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    I

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    AM

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    NOT

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    FAT

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    YOU

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    FUCKING

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    HOMOS

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    I AM A VERY JAPANESE SCHOOLGIRLISH 486LBS.

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Hey titbag

    by AbramsPRIME

    Or should I say Tit-for-Brains.... You can only swear, CAPITILIZE, exclamation point(!!!) and put together offensive rants in so many ways (and given your demonstrated "limited" intellect, you've about reached that ceiling) from your parents basement and/or the asylum your permanently committed to. What you CAN'T do however, is intelligently debate ANY merits of LoserTREKPrime/SHAT-nerverse vs Cool New Slick JJ Trek....here's why.....New Trek's a HUGE hit. Paramount will make at LEAST a trilogy of "JJverse" "Treks" (because the cast is signed)...they may even to a new TV show in the "JJverse".....all this will lead to one INESCAPABLE thing....OLDLOSERTrekPRIME will cease to have any meaning in the popcultural world outside of the few, minority HardCore TrekPrime geeksmorons who can't let it go. It'll be remembered by the public like the Adam West Batman vs Christopher Nolans'....kind of vaguely fondly remembered for it's 'kidappeal', paper mache rocks and camp/hammy Shat acting... All you TrekPRIME hardliners are about to become an EVEN MORE marginalized group of "troubled pathetic losers", feeding the Mocking Distain that the general public already feels of you. These talkbacks will be the ONLY place you can rant to the converted. You're DONE...OVER...NewTrek has passed you by and buried the old in its wake...and no amount of bitching, whining and swearing will change that. Have a nice (non)life you pathetic obsessive compulsive ADD manchild.....

  • July 1, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    And....

    by AbramsPRIME

    ...funny how your Assbuddy Asimov has disappeared since he too can't debate the merits of his old show....still waiting for the "Great SCIENCE FICTION" explanation he claimed in is the blatant "Run Silent Run Deep" rip off that is "Balance of Terror"...... Oh...out of words that aren't just a smokescreen of insults to hide your lack of actual ideas? Thought so..... Typical Trekkie Pinheads....go cuddle up to your stuffed Tribbles and jack off to your Picard posters....

  • July 1, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    ABRAMSPRIMELACKY

    by TITBAG

    YOUR ENTIRE POST WAS PURE SHITE. <P> I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE CHANCE TO REDO THE ENTIRE THING. PLEASE CONSIDER MY OFFER YOU FUCKING CHILD.

  • July 1, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST

    THIS ENTIRE FILM DIDN'T NEED TO BE TREK AT ALL

    by TITBAG

    IT COULD JUST AS EASILY TAKEN PLACE IN SAN BERNADINO AT THE WALMART TRAINING FACILITY THERE AND BEEN ABOUT A BUNCH OF HYPERACTIVE TWEENS TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN WHETHER TO HANG OUT AT THE MALL OR EXPLORE THEIR BI-CURIOUS TENDENCIES. FFS.

  • July 1, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    ABRAMSPRIMEMEAT

    by TITBAG

    YOU'RE ALMOST AS FUCKING STUPID AS THAT BORING CHICK BSEXYB, BUT: <P> 1. YOU'RE FUNNIER - IN A SELF-FLAGELLATION KIND OF WAY <P> 2. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'VE BEEN BEAT.

  • July 1, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Hey Titface..

    by AbramsPRIME

    That #2...look in the mirror (if it doesn't break from your heinousness).... You got OWNED and you have ZERO arguements...so you fall back on mindless lashing out to cover your lack of brains/ideas....you're like a fucking untrained monkey who didn't get a banana so is now throwing his feces around his cage....HAHAHAHA

  • July 1, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Hey lookd I'm TitBag!!!

    by AbramsPRIME

    Blah blah blah...JJ sucks....blah blah blah...Fuck you all up the ass...I'm smart...blah blah blah....shut the fuck up blah blah blah....Rodenberry of God...yadayadyada....I'm the true keeper of Trek goodness...blah yadayada....I'm so smart...waaaaahh1...Fuck ya all...etc etc etc... Booken record from a broken mind......I hope the new meds work Tithead....

  • July 1, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    IF BY MY MINDLESS LASHING OUT YOU MEAN THE...

    by TITBAG

    200 FUCKING TIMES I'VE POINTED OUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PIECE OF SHIT FILM IN THE LAST 5 TREK TALKBACKS, THEN SUFFERED WHEN YOU PATHETIC MONGS INSIST I HAVEN'T PRESENTED ARGUMENTS, AND THEN I PWN YOU PUSSIES OVER AND OVER, THEN GUILTY.

  • July 1, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    By the way....wishyouhadTitbags....

    by AbramsPRIME

    You last posts were so sad and lacking in anything resembling smarts or your so called humor and kind of non sequiter.....(A Wall Mart training facility? That's ALL you got??)...perfectly illustrating that YOU HAVE NOTHING to offer except rant-y, expletive filled insults....you've revealed yourself as the braindead fuck we all know you are....you can say my very well argued post is "SHITE" but funny how you can't intelligently debate it....but like Rain Man I guess you're only good at ONE thing (expletives filled talkbacks...)...that and Wet Dreams about Shatner....

  • July 1, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH YOU WII GENERATION KIDS

    by TITBAG

    YOU'VE GOT THE ATTENTION SPAN AND INTELLIGENCE OF A FUCKING FLEA. YOUR CRITIQUES OF THE NEW TREK PRETTY MUCH RUN ALONG THE LINES OF: <P> GEE, THAT WAS NEAT. <P> WOW, THAT WAS REALLY FUN <P> MY GIRLFRIEND EVEN LOVED IT <P> WOW, I WISH ALL MOVIES COULD BE AS FUN <P> I LOVED ALL THE ACTION. <P> KIRK WAS SOOOOOO CUTE <P> ALL THOSE EXPLOSIONS WERE NEAT-O

  • July 1, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Hey Titfag.....

    by AbramsPRIME

    In the immortal words of your Ultimate Sexual fantasy/stalker target SHAT... GET A LIFE.... Respectfully....... :)

  • July 1, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    THE 'MY GIRLFRIEND EVEN LOVED IT' LINE IS THE..

    by TITBAG

    ...FUCKING WORST. FFS. WHENEVER I SEE THAT PHRASE ATTACHED TO EITHER SCIFI OR HORROR I KNOW THE FILM IS GOING TO BE COMPLETE AND UTTER SHITE.

  • July 1, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    ABRAMSPRIME - I LIKE THE CUT OF YOUR JIB

    by BringingSexyBack

    A+

  • July 1, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    IN OTHER WORDS, BUTTFUCK TIME ABRAMSPRIMED

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    REALLY

    by AbramsPRIME

    That's IT.... Regurgitating some cliche "general public" reviews..... Wow....I guess the Flop sweat is really going....grasping at straws trying to seem "clever" without falling back on your usual wall of "fuck filled" insults.....you should stop now, you're REALLLLLLLY coming across as pathetic now....All your fans (all 6 of them) on this talkback will have ANOTHER hero dismantled right in front of their widdle eyes....and you don't have 700 hours of Bad DVD's to fall back on for them to lick their wounds....

  • July 1, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    ABRAMSGETTINGHISASSHOLEPRIMEDANDREADY

    by TITBAG

    THAT'S BSEXYB'S WAY OF LETTING YOU KNOW SHE THINKS YOUR HOT AND WANTS TO LICK YOUR TAINT. <P>

  • July 1, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG HAS YET TO PRESENT ONE VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST NEW TREK

    by BringingSexyBack

    But he's posted many against allowing retards on talkbacks.

  • July 1, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    HEY, MAYBE YOU GIRLS CAN GET TOGETHER AND...

    by TITBAG

    ...TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE OF THE NEW TREK BOYS WERE THE MOST BUFF? I MEAN WHAT ELSE ARE YOU PONCES GOING TO TALK ABOUT? <P> PLOT?

  • July 1, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "I LOVE THIS MOTORIZED CHAIR"

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    AHA!!!!!!

    by AbramsPRIME

    Expletive filled CAP FILLED INSULTS. That's the brainless TitHag we all know and expect....'cause he can't do anything else....monkey in a cage, tossing feces to the 6 other monkey that think he's the Alpha Male....I rest my case, you got nothing, you are nothing and you will never BE anything....except a bitchy, rant-y talkbacker on some geek site....Bored with you now....see ya in hell Banzai!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "WOW, WHAT OTHER COOL THINGS CAN I EXPECT

    by TITBAG

    FROM THE FUTURE? MAYBE AN OTTOMAN TO MATCH?"

  • July 1, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG HAS NO FANS EXCEPT ME

    by BringingSexyBack

    Just as I chuckle at the sight of a stranger tripping in the street and breaking his face, I enjoy reading Failbag's Palsy rants.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    BRINGINGCOCKBACK

    by TITBAG

    EXPLAIN TO ME ABOUT SPECIAL BLACK HOLES AGAIN. THAT WAS PRICELESS SHIT THAT MONEY JUST CANNOT BUY.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Hey TitHag...

    by AbramsPRIME

    parting shot....If Paramount decided to "special edition" all the old TrekPrime eps (because according to you, historically they now longer exist), replacing Shat and company with the new cast (like they swapped out the tinfoil and baling wire FX a few years ago)....would you kill yourself? If so, we'll start that petition to Paramount to get that ball rollling right away...

  • July 1, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Tithag?

    by AbramsPRIME

    Are you CRYING??? AWwwwwwww...

  • July 1, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    why are you still complaining about TREK titbag?

    by Six Demon Bag

    if you're gonna complain about something, complain that the turbolifts keep moving in the original films on the bridge...thats some serious continuity errors there.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    ASB and BSB together again???

    by Six Demon Bag

    super twins unleash the beast!!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    TITBAG: "WHAT ARE WE GONNA PLAY DADDY?" <p>

    by BringingSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    SDB - WE ARE THIS FUCKING TALKBACK!

    by BringingSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    "HI I'M NERO AND INSTEAD OF THANKING SPOCK..

    by TITBAG

    ...FOR A VALIANT EFFORT I'M GOING TO DESTROY AND ENTIRE PLANET. WHY? BECAUSE THESE DUMBFUCK WRITERS COULDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING BETTER AND WENT WITH A TIRED OLD DONE TO FUCKING DEATH REVENGE STORY."

  • July 1, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    REVENGE!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Chorus: "Revenge!"

  • July 1, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    OH LOOK YOU GIRLS HAVE YOURSELF A 3 WAY

    by TITBAG

    YOU FAGGOTS MUST BE THRILLED. GOOD FOR YOU. GO GIRLS GO.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "ANOTHER REVENGE STORY. OH FFS."

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    TITBAG: "HI I'M TITBAG I HAVE TOURETTE'S, PALSY AND DOWNS ..."

    by BringingSexyBack

    "... and I love drinking Red Bull."

  • July 1, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "REVENGE STORIES ARE THE WRITERS

    by TITBAG

    ...WAY OF SAYING ' I GOT NOTHIN. ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL NOTHIN.'"

  • July 1, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    DEATH!!!

    by D.Vader

    Chorus: "DEAAAAATH!!!"

  • July 1, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    BRINGINGCOCKBACKINTOMYASS

    by TITBAG

    DOES SIXHEADEDDILDODEMONBAG STILL USE HIS TEETH OR DID HE FINALLY HAVE THEM ALL REMOVED FOR YOUR PLEASURE?

  • July 1, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG: "SET PHASERS TO DOWN!!!"

    by BringingSexyBack

    *Shoots self*

  • July 1, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "JJ, NICE JOB ON THE STAR WARS REMAKE"

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT BEING NICE TO ME?

    by BringingSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "I TOLD NIMOY TO STAY AWAY FROM..

    by TITBAG

    ..THIS POS, BUT THAT OLD SENILE PRICK JUST WOULDN'T LISTEN. HE NEEDED THE MONEY FOR HIS NEW DARK ROOM EQUIPMENT."

  • July 1, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    BLACK HOLE

    by TITBAG

    PRICELESS

  • July 1, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    wow TitGag... is still at it?....

    by AbramsPRIME

    I go away for 10 minutes and... ...you're back to Badly Changing dialogue into so called "Funny put downs"(to an audience of YOU anyway)...but still in ANGRY CAPS!!!.....followed by crudely challenging the sexual orientation of anyone who disagrees with you (so pretty much..the ENTIRE WORLD)... Hey Bringsexyback and SixDemon Bag....Treat him like TrekPRIME....ignore him and he'll fade away due to indifference from his audience.... ciao...

  • July 1, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST

    THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS TB IS WHEN...

    by TITBAG

    ...ABRAMSPRIMEDANDREADY ACTUALLY STATED THAT HE'S GOT HIS DEGREE IN STUDYING QUANTUM MECHANICS AND STRING THEORY. FUCK ME. I NEARLY SPILT ME TEA LAUGHING. <P> FUCK. THAT WHOLE POST MAY JUST HAVE BEEN AS LAUGHABLE AS THIS FUCKING TURD OF A MOVIE. <P> STUDIED QUANTUM MECHANICS. OH LORD THAT'S FUCKING RICH. THE IDIOT CAN BARELY PUT TOGETHER A COHESIVE SENTENCE BUT HE'S AN EXPERT ON QUANTUM MECHANICS.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    LATER, ABRAMSPRIME

    by BringingSexyBack

    It's kinda fun to post with Titbag. Like legalized tard abuse.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    HE DIDN'T SAY HE WAS AN ENGLISH MAJOR

    by BringingSexyBack

    And neither have you, though that's evident in your posts.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST

    BUTTHOLEISBACK...

    by TITBAG

    ...THINKS THAT HE'S PWNING ME. FUCK ME THAT'S EXCELLENT. HE PRETTY MUCH JUST TAKES WHATEVER I'VE JUST SAID IN ONE OF MY BRILLIANT POSTS AND SWITCHES A FEW WORDS AROUND AND CALLS IT ORIGINAL. <P> TRUE STORY, THAT.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "NO SUCH THING AS RED MATTER"

    by TITBAG

  • July 1, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Hey SDB, BSB et al...whats up guys?

    by southafricanguy

    If anyone is interested I suggest yopu head over to marketsaw.com and check out the picture they have of a banner advertising Avatar at the SD comic con. The banner has a partial pictue of Sam Worthington's Na'vi Avatar (those who have read the old scriptment will know what im talking about). Its amazing how photo real it looks, it looks like a make up fx job imho....

  • July 1, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    TitWag...

    by AbramsPRIME

    Again, too little, too late, not funny except to your troubled little locked in mind.... If I have NO expertise in QM, show me up...tell me where the "Infinite parallel universe theory" is WRONG....show up Mr. Hawking....please genius....show all these mooks that I DIDN't study QM....prove me wrong....you'd run out of Wikipedia arguments in about 4 minutes. I've already noted that the writer's Black Hole theories are wrong but you know what....this is a SCIFI movie not Discover Channel PBS doc on Quantum theory and Black holes....you want to start poking holes in the 'science' of Trek....go back to the Very first SHAT (as in he SHAT on the art of acting) episode and move forward one episode at a time...you should be done cataloging the errors in about 2029..... See your arguments hold no water so that's why you hide behind insults and rantings....we're ALL on to your con now....

  • July 1, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    TITBAG: "I ENJOY BEING A PUNCHING BAG"

    by BringingSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    I'LL CHECK IT OUT SOUTHAFRICANDUDE

    by BringingSexyBack

    Gracias

  • July 1, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    no prob BSB......let me know what you think..

    by southafricanguy

  • July 1, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    TITBAG HAS BEEN CALLED TO THE FUCKING MAT, PEOPLE

    by BringingSexyBack

    You had better bring it and not pussy out, Failbag. <P> The game is afoot!

  • July 1, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST

    I HOPE FOR FAILBAG'S SAKE WIKI IS NOT UNDERGOING MAINTENANCE

    by BringingSexyBack

    LOL!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    THOSE ARE SPECIAL BLACK HOLES

    by BringingSexyBack

    But for now let's focus on Titbag and his knowledge of quantum physics and strong theory.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    TitSlag....

    by AbramsPRIME

    'ello? Gone away 'ave you? I'll check back later (unlike you I HAVE a life) for any "Hawking bustin" equations you might come up with on your Sony "My First Calculator".....

  • July 1, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    I THINK HE LOGGED OFF, ABRAMSPRIME

    by BringingSexyBack

    You fucking pwned. Good work professor!

  • July 1, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    titbag

    by Six Demon Bag

    yeah nero would do that...thanks for not saving my plnaet im sure you did your best..here's 50 bucks.<P><P>fuck that he'd be pissed hence the revenge..<P>i seriously think you have mental issues...ASB and BSB, PHDs will be sure to help.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    I MEANT "STRING" THEORY

    by BringingSexyBack

    The i is next to the o, innocent mistake. I am embarassed.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    SAG--whats up?

    by Six Demon Bag

    christmas 2009 could not get here any faster..

  • July 1, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    THIS TB IS NOW BOOKMARKED AND WILL HAUNT TITBAG

    by BringingSexyBack

    for the rest of his natural days. Thanks to AbramsPrime.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    titbag reminds me of the drunk in front of the library

    by Six Demon Bag

    who says he'll return your books for you if he can show you his whatnots and look at the pretty pictures inside of them...<P>god i miss my childhood.

  • July 1, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    strong theory?

    by Six Demon Bag

    is that a thesis by strongbad?

  • July 1, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    literally just finished shitting self with this one

    by Six Demon Bag

    "Expletive filled CAP FILLED INSULTS. That's the brainless TitHag we all know and expect....'cause he can't do anything else....monkey in a cage, tossing feces to the 6 other monkey that think he's the Alpha Male....I rest my case, you got nothing, you are nothing and you will never BE anything....except a bitchy, rant-y talkbacker on some geek site....Bored with you now....see ya in hell Banzai!!!"<P><P>classic!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    TITBAG = ALPHA MALE?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I'm shitting myself too!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Hey SDB, im good dude, and you? What do

    by southafricanguy

    you think of that picture? How fucking cool is that? As you say man, December just cant get here soon enough....

  • July 1, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    To my eye it looks like a good make up fx

    by southafricanguy

    but then you realize its cgi! First time my eye was completely fooled by cgi was Davy Jones, could nt believe it wasnt make up (Gollum was damn good, but I could still see it was cgi). This reminds me of Davy Jones, just cant tell the difference. If they have achieved this level of photo real cgi with everything....holy shit, I think im starting to see why the reactions from people that have seen footage has been so blown away...

  • July 1, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    LET'S RECAP SHALL WE?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    "THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS TB IS WHEN... <p> by TITBAG Jul 1st, 2009 09:30:43 PM <p> ...ABRAMSPRIMEDANDREADY ACTUALLY STATED THAT HE'S GOT HIS DEGREE IN STUDYING QUANTUM MECHANICS AND STRING THEORY. FUCK ME. I NEARLY SPILT ME TEA LAUGHING. <p> FUCK. THAT WHOLE POST MAY JUST HAVE BEEN AS LAUGHABLE AS THIS FUCKING TURD OF A MOVIE. <p> STUDIED QUANTUM MECHANICS. OH LORD THAT'S FUCKING RICH. THE IDIOT CAN BARELY PUT TOGETHER A COHESIVE SENTENCE BUT HE'S AN EXPERT ON QUANTUM MECHANICS." <p> -------------------------------------- <p> TitWag... <p> by AbramsPRIME Jul 1st, 2009 09:38:14 PM <p> Again, too little, too late, not funny except to your troubled little locked in mind.... If I have NO expertise in QM, show me up...tell me where the "Infinite parallel universe theory" is WRONG....show up Mr. Hawking....please genius....show all these mooks that I DIDN't study QM....prove me wrong....you'd run out of Wikipedia arguments in about 4 minutes. <p> --------------------------------------- <p> *Titbag logs off*

  • July 1, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    December, yes....

    by DrMorbius

    But Comic-Con is only 3 weeks away. This is a good sign that I may get a little ocular foreplay!!!

  • July 1, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    KOBE

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    If I wanted to use different names why would I use the same half? Basically I have Bringing/Ayatollah/ChaimBen Sexyback. I'm Ayatollah now because I just got kicked out of my bedroom for typing too loud. Now you know. <P> And how do you know how fast a duck shits? Don't answer.

  • July 1, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Anonymity?

    by DrMorbius

    We're all Anonymous!

  • July 1, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    I SEE YOUR POINT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    except for the crazy bastard part. WTF

  • July 1, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT QUANTUM MECHANICS

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    that much I have in common with Failbag. Ain't that right, Tit?

  • July 1, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    If he's the right tit.......

    by DrMorbius

    who's the left one?

  • July 1, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    I VOTE CHERRYVALANCE FOR THE LEFT TIT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I think she has a nice one.

  • July 1, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    I KNOW, I NEED TO CUT DOWN ON POSTING

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    It's a real addiction.

  • July 1, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Who is this CHERRYVALANCE.....

    by DrMorbius

    of which you speak?

  • July 1, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Friend<P>or Foe?

    by DrMorbius

  • July 1, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    FRIEND - SHE'S A TALKBACKER

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 1, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    OKAY - THANKS FOR ENABLING ME

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 2, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    I never understood Trek fans who say they hate it

    by lockesbrokenleg

    but seem to waste hours upon hours of telling me WHY they hate it. Move on already. Gad You didn't even give it a chance. I bet you hated it going in.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:55 a.m. CST

    Not moving on, lockesbrokenleg...

    by BurnHollywood

    Here's some reasons why:<p> * If you're going to be a highly paid screenwriter, DO YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK, especially on black holes. It's your gawddamn income stream, ffs.<p> * The know-nothing critics are celebrating this movie because it's dumbed-down SF (Space Opera) understandable by the slovenly layman, encouraging others to emulate it, which keeps the cycle of shitty genre movies going.<p> * Assholes like Orci and Kurtzman are infesting the cinemas with this hack-y bullshit while much better writers are left to work day-jobs. I'm on a writer's social network where people can't even get FAR better stuff under an editor's nose.<p> It's a never ending but worthwhile battle...fuck mediocrity.

  • July 2, 2009, 6:44 a.m. CST

    This whole argument reminds me

    by SisterSpooky

    of when Mission Impossible came out, it too wasn't true to the original. So fans complained it wasn't like anything like the Original. Can understand both sides of this argument.

  • July 2, 2009, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Why are JJ's Spocks such pussies

    by creatorsid

    Why are JJ's Spocks such pussies Pre JJ Spock would take a bullet (or ray-gun or what ever) for anyone. JJ's Spocks one wines to his mama (WR lookin nice). two (that old whore bag of and actor (most actor's are whores bags) LN $ee you on TV next yr,) Old Spock hands over the keys to a one man Death Star to terrorist miners. Come on all you JJers out there let's say it together "self destruct" Spock's save the day everone beers on the Enterprise sins her engine room's a brewery

  • July 2, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Oh i get it now it's a frat movie with the 3 b's

    by creatorsid

    Oh i get it now it's a frat movie with the 3 b's the 3 b's boobs, beer and things blowing up PS, the Enterprise engine room's is a brewery

  • July 2, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives:

    by ClarenceBeaks

    Agree with your attitude towards this movie.

  • July 2, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Pew! Pew! Beeow!!!

    by son_of_ebert

    Bullshit deflectors to maximum!!<p>I wonder if anyone would pay to hear a MST3K-style dub of TITBAG's rants that you could play over the new movie.. hmmmm.. <p>well hell I think I will pull this whole talkback and have magical robot voices sing it back to me in a sweet sweet lullaby..

  • July 2, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Wow

    by rogueleader66

    I am sorry guys I have to laugh, because I cannot believe the debate about this movie is continuing so far after the fact. Love it or hate it, it has struck a nerve in all of us to some point because if it didn't we would not still be talking about it....oops I mean arguing about it LOL.<P> I am not even actively participating in the debate anymore because in truth at this point, it is totally pointless. The movie is what it is and the debates are exactly the same as they were when the movie came out. I just get a kick out of listening to the arguments. Oh, and before I get flamed, I am NOT putting anyone down for continuing the debate, I am just saying I find it entertaining, that's it. Carry On!!!!!

  • July 2, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Oh and greetings to all

    by rogueleader66

    SDB, Asimov, SAG, Vader, Yackbacker, and anyone else I forgot. Hope all is well with you fellas. <P>BTW guys did you see the trailer for "The Informant" looks pretty cool.

  • July 2, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    PEW!!! PEW BEEOW!!!!!

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 2, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    THE DEBATE HAS CONCLUDED. THE RESULT:

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Titbag got devastatingly pwned by AbramsPrime.

  • July 2, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    FAILBAG: "I SHOULD'VE KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT."

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Story of his life.

  • July 2, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    BSEXYB

    by TITBAG

    NEVER HAS ONE TRIED SO HARD ON THESE TALKBACKS AND FAILED SO COMPLETELY AS YOU DO WHEN TRYING TO PWN ME. IT'S LIKE WATCHING A RETARD SHOOT FISH IN A BARREL. THE FISH ARE RIGHT THERE, BUT THE TARD KEEPS GETTING THE END OF THE GUN TURNED AROUND. <P> NEXT.

  • July 2, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    STEPHEN HAWKING: "DEAR ABRAMSPRIMERIB"

    by TITBAG

    "WATCHING EPISODES OF 'THE UNIVERSE' ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL DOES NOT IN ANY WAY MAKE YOU AN EXPERT IN QUANTUM MECHANICS OR STRING THEORY. SUGGEST YOU RETHINK ENTIRE POSITION IN THIS TB."

  • July 2, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    JJABRAMS: "DEAR ABRAMSPRIMEMEAT"

    by TITBAG

    "PLEASE TAKE MY NAME OUT OF YOUR SCREEN NAME. I'M A COMPLETE FUCKING HACK TWAT BUT YOU'RE REALLLLLY GIVING ME A BAD NAME."

  • July 2, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    JJABRAMS: "IT'S TRUE, NEW TREK IS ASS"

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    JJABRAMS: "MR. RODDENBERRY I'M REALLY SORRY...

    by TITBAG

    ...FOR DESTROYING YOUR LEGACY AND MAKING A TOTAL HASH OUT OF THE NEW TREK."

  • July 2, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    JJABRAMS: "I THOUGHT I WAS MAKING A NEW STAR WARS"

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    rogue

    by Six Demon Bag

    yeah i liked it...it made trek relevant to me again. <P><P>which i have to say that is what it was supposed to do. basically JJ grafted STAR WARS plot onto TREK, which is fine by me...it needed to be fixed<P>and when people start complaining about black holes and such, those are the guys i used to make fun of at conventions when they pointed out errors to the actors and creators...the shirt you were wearing changed ever so slightly, but i noticed...

  • July 2, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    tit

    by Six Demon Bag

    you would take a boring ass ep from VOYAGER over JJs TREK? <P>youre fucking off your meds dude.

  • July 2, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    SEVENOFNINE'S BEAUTIFUL BOOBS WERE MORE INTERESTING..

    by TITBAG

    ...THAN EVERY SECOND OF THE NEW TREK.

  • July 2, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    its been a while and correct me if im wrong but berman and trek were just run into a creative cul-de-sac. it became a series to make sure EVRYTHING fit together, which is fine up to a point. they did it til it got, and i hate to sound like an ADD rattled kid (which im not) boring. i can take themes and plots with a dose of action, which is what the first two series were. but about 2/3 into DS9 and all of voyager, it just felt like they were trying to connect the universe that they created..how cute.<P>where were we?--oh yeah, my point. JJ TREK gave it revitalization again. was it dumbed down? beats me. it was entertaining enough for a summer film and a TREK film, i would put it up there in the top 5. yeah yu're right about it not "meaning anything" its basically a revenge plot and time travel story, but if you can handle all those time travel eps in DS9 with liitle green men and mirror mirror, then why not this?<P>always good to chat with ya!

  • July 2, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    AFTER AN EPISODE OF VOYAGER I ALWAYS FELT...

    by TITBAG

    ...A TAD LET DOWN. <P> AFTER THE NEW TREK I FELT AS THOUGH I'D BEEN RAPED. <P> TRUE STORY, THAT.

  • July 2, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    tit

    by Six Demon Bag

    you "felt" raped probably cause you were...and you probably got the shit kicked outta you when you inanely laughed like a retard in the theater...jagoff.

  • July 2, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    i really dont think JJ was trying to rip the public off...i think it was trying to make an entertaining film and he succeeded.

  • July 2, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    You know, as good or bad as it was...

    by roninredshade

    It never did explain exactly how Kirk and McCoy exchanged eye color. Wow, weird. (For the trainspotters)

  • July 2, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    "THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS TB IS WHEN... <p> by TITBAG Jul 1st, 2009 09:30:43 PM <p> ...ABRAMSPRIMEDANDREADY ACTUALLY STATED THAT HE'S GOT HIS DEGREE IN STUDYING QUANTUM MECHANICS AND STRING THEORY. FUCK ME. I NEARLY SPILT ME TEA LAUGHING. <p> FUCK. THAT WHOLE POST MAY JUST HAVE BEEN AS LAUGHABLE AS THIS FUCKING TURD OF A MOVIE. <p> STUDIED QUANTUM MECHANICS. OH LORD THAT'S FUCKING RICH. THE IDIOT CAN BARELY PUT TOGETHER A COHESIVE SENTENCE BUT HE'S AN EXPERT ON QUANTUM MECHANICS." <p> --------------------------------------------------------------- <p> TitWag... <p> by AbramsPRIME Jul 1st, 2009 09:38:14 PM <p> Again, too little, too late, not funny except to your troubled little locked in mind.... If I have NO expertise in QM, show me up...tell me where the "Infinite parallel universe theory" is WRONG....show up Mr. Hawking....please genius....show all these mooks that I DIDN't study QM....prove me wrong....you'd run out of Wikipedia arguments in about 4 minutes. <p> ---------------------------------------------------------------- <p> *TITBAG LOGS OFF*

  • July 2, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG HAS SUNK SO LOW AS TO STEAL MY BACKWARDS GUN BIT ...

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    This is tragic. He could've waited another day or two, but I only wrote that last night. FFS

  • July 2, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    *PEW PEW PEW*

    by TITBAG

    NICE SHOOTIN' THERE, TEX.

  • July 2, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    JJABRAMS: "I COULDN'T HAVE HANDLED ANYTHING...

    by TITBAG

    ....MORE COMPLICATED. IT WAS ALL I COULD DO TO KEEP REMEMBERING THAT 'THE FORCE' WASN'T A PART OF THIS FILM."

  • July 2, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    STEPHEN HAWKING: "STRING THEORY IS BOLLOCKS"

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    STEPHEN HAWKING: 'SO CALLED SCIENCE IN NEW TREK..

    by TITBAG

    ...IS ABSOLUTELY APPALLING."

  • July 2, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    STEPHEN HAWKING: "WHERE'S MY DROOL BUCKET?"

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    STEPHEN HAWKING: "WHERE WERE THE STORMTROOPERS?"

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    JJABRAMS: "I KEPT WANTING TO ADD STORM TROOPERS..

    by TITBAG

    ...BUT LUCAS KEPT REMINDED ME THAT THIS PARTICULAR STAR WARS FILM WAS GOING TO BE VERY SUBVERSIVE."

  • July 2, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    WITH SO MUCH SAID, WHAT'S LEFT TO SAY BUT ...

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    "THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS TB IS WHEN... <p> by TITBAG Jul 1st, 2009 09:30:43 PM <p> ...ABRAMSPRIMEDANDREADY ACTUALLY STATED THAT HE'S GOT HIS DEGREE IN STUDYING QUANTUM MECHANICS AND STRING THEORY. FUCK ME. I NEARLY SPILT ME TEA LAUGHING. <p> FUCK. THAT WHOLE POST MAY JUST HAVE BEEN AS LAUGHABLE AS THIS FUCKING TURD OF A MOVIE. <p> STUDIED QUANTUM MECHANICS. OH LORD THAT'S FUCKING RICH. THE IDIOT CAN BARELY PUT TOGETHER A COHESIVE SENTENCE BUT HE'S AN EXPERT ON QUANTUM MECHANICS." <p> --------------------------------------------------------------- <p> TitWag... <p> by AbramsPRIME Jul 1st, 2009 09:38:14 PM <p> Again, too little, too late, not funny except to your troubled little locked in mind.... If I have NO expertise in QM, show me up...tell me where the "Infinite parallel universe theory" is WRONG....show up Mr. Hawking....please genius....show all these mooks that I DIDN't study QM....prove me wrong....you'd run out of Wikipedia arguments in about 4 minutes. <p> ---------------------------------------------------------------- <p> *TITBAG LOGS OFF*

  • July 2, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    OH LOOK, ANOTHER DULLARD'S RESPONSE

    by TITBAG

    HEY BORINGDULLARDISBACK, WHEN I WAS USING YOUR MOMMY AS A CUMBUCKET YESTERDAY I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THAT YOU'VE PRINTED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY POSTS AND TAPED THEM ON TO YOUR WALL. RIGHT NEXT TO THE SPY PHOTOS OF YOUR NEIGHBOR GIRL. SHOULD I BE HONOURED OR APPALLED?

  • July 2, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    YO HO HO

    by TITBAG

    A DULLARDS' LIFE FOR ME....

  • July 2, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    JJABRAMS: "THIS MOVIE WAS FOR DULLARDS"

    by TITBAG

    "PURE AND SIMPLE. THAT'S WHY IT'S DONE SO WELL"

  • July 2, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "MOST UNINSPIRED CASTING EVER"

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Weird coincidences?

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    What about STAR TREK II? <p>- Commander Checkov "just happens" to be aboard a ship that comes in contact with Khan. </p><p>- Checkov "just happens" to forget that Khan might be on Seti Alpha 5...or notice that there is a planet missing from that solar system. </p> <p>- Checkov "just happens" to detect life on the planet (ear creatures) and "just happens" to beam down and find those creatures in Khan's trailer. </p> <p>- Khan "just happens" to remember Checkov...even though they didn't meet in the original series. </p> <p>- Admiral Kirk "just happens" to be aboard the Enterprise on a training mission. </p> <p>- The Enterprise "just happens" to be the only ship in the region that can make it to the Genesis Outpost. </p> <p>- The Genesis Project "just happens" to be coordinated by Kirk's ex-flame and his son. </p> <p>- Scotty's nephew "just happens" to be training aboard the Enterprise. </p> <p>- The Mutara Nebula "just happens" to be nearby when the Enterprise needs a place to escape. </p> <p>- Khan's crew "just happen" to remain in their 20s...even though he aged well into his 50s. </p> <p>- Captain Spock "just happens" to know how to fix the ship...and "just happens" to have an unexplained answer (that obviously hadn't crossed the minds of any of the other engineers). </p> For all of those people who are complaining about Spock Prime just happening to be on the planet that Kirk lands upon...we can apply the same level of scrutiny to WRATH OF KHAN. Of course, we can look at it for what they both are...nice movies.

  • July 2, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    TITBAG...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You keep talkbacking too much. Don't you have a job? Do you have any friends who aren't located in CyberSpace?

  • July 2, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    TITBAG: "OH GOD BSB PLEASE GO AWAY."

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    "You're foiling my attempts at diverting attention from my fail. Oh God kill me now."

  • July 2, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Star Trek - Subtitle?

    by Norm3

    I think this series of Star Trek movies needs a subtitle. What do we call this new Series of re-booted alternate timeline Star Trek movies? Is it time for the fans to find a name. Should the studio name it? We can't call it the TOS movies. Star Trek TOS Movies Alternate Timeline? Star Trek - AT, Star Trek - New Dimension. I think it needs a name. Try searching for a product related to this movie its hard to find because there no subtitle.

  • July 2, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    ccchhhrrriiisssm

    by Six Demon Bag

    my point exactly..you can nitpick practically anything...you basically have to accept certain things...the initial premise.<P><P>like Ben Button, depending on whether you can accept that a man can age backwards, its either a GREAT film or HORRIBLE film. i, for one, think its GREAT.

  • July 2, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    ccchhhrrriiisssm

    by Six Demon Bag

    oh yeah every planet the crew visits "just happen" to be oxygen breathing...

  • July 2, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    OMFG

    by TITBAG

    NEW TREK = GIANT GAPING PLOT HOLES NOT UNLIKE BZZEXYB'S ASSHOLE AFTER A LONG HARD WEEKEND.

  • July 2, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Hey TitGag (on yer mama's nipple...)

    by AbramsPRIME

    I see your back to your usual FUCK YOU I"M SMART, YOUR DUMB shit and "funny" dialogue blurbs....really, you've got NO new material...And your Monkeybuddy (one of the 6 in the cage you keep tossing your feces at who thinks you're the alpha male) Asimovlives is like your own private dingbat cheerleader (Hey Asimov, did you EVER manage to answer how "Balance of Terror" aka complete ripoff of "Run Silent, Run Deep" just dropped into space is great SCIENCE FICTION?...you know the thematics, the exploration/extrapolation of scientific principles, the character arcs that can only uniquely happen in a great science fiction piece and not just carbon copy of what you can pull from a war movie??? NO? Didn't think so....your silence speaks VOLUMES..). Bottom line: you hated new Trek...Big deal...Your juvenile rants, your flames, your insults, your expletives aren't going to change ONE mind...because they hold no water...so you revert to 'but it fake stupid science', which also makes no sense because you could say that about EVERY scifi film for the last 40 years(including every one of your Beloved TrekPRIME/ShatnerVerse yarns...."but it didn't have you know...IDEAS like TrekPRIME".....uh huh...yeah because, Final Frontier, the space hippy episode, Insurrection, Search for Spock and Nemesis were just BUSTIN' out with high minded IDEAS....and TMP was ALL ideas, no compelling story...hence the nickname "The Motionless Picture"... You didn't like the movie...fine...but be honest the REAL reason you didn't like it is because they took it you out of your little closed ecosystem, warm, comfortable( you know, like Asimovlives' cock in your mouth) little universe and yanked it out from under you...it didn't correspond to YOUR version of the myopic HardcoreTrekkie-this-is-the-only-thing-I-have-in-life-so-don't-take-it-away-from-me view of Trek. That's the ONLY explanation why you and Asimov are so RIDICULOUSLY white hot angry with the fury of 1000 burning suns and so hate filled about this movie which came out 2 months ago. You've both been publicly slapped down into stupified silence rather easily here according to the consensus of other talkbackers, only to return to this talkback later, back to your usual pedantic shenanigans....because you have NOTHING else but these talkbacks... You're both addled in the head, predictable and boring...so I'm DONE here....I'm sure if I drop back in to another Trek talkback in 2 more months, you'll both STILL be here, spouting the same tired reruns of what your spewing now...convincing NO ONE, entertaining NO ONE, and basically preaching to your Dogma to a (very small) flock of sheep who are in the same "TrekPRIME is the ONLY Trek so we MUST keep the Hate On up for NewTrek"......keep tilting at that windmill little boys.....

  • July 2, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    i think you're raking JJ wrongly..<P>he pretty much was hired to do this job..the studio wanted a fresh take on it and liked what JJ did in the past..i dont think hes a hack or anything. he was just doing his job. they wanted him to make a film that would be relevant (and popular) with todays audience...he did. <P><P>all the mass hype was do was get people in the first weekend..had it not been good, it wouldve sunk like T4. <P><P>is it like previous TREKs, no. thats fine..it needs updating from time to time.<P>i like to think of it as BOND franchise. where they keep refreshing it, some are good, some are bad..but most are good to watch..but you cant tell me that the last two TREK films are better than JJTREK. <P>you can argue that this is not Genes vision..well it hasnt been for quite some time...even before his death, it was slipping from his grasp into Bermans who just...geez..you are right about that, they DID over-nerd it. HA!

  • July 2, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    THE GREATEST THING ABOUT THIS TB?

    by TITBAG

    IS 95% OF THE ASSHOLES IN THIS THREAD ARGUING THAT THE NEW TREK WAS SO GREAT BECAAAAAAUSE IT WAS SO DUMB. <P> PRICELESS. <P> ALMOST AS PRICELESS AS ABRAMSPRIMERIB CLAIMING HE'S GOT A BACKGROUND IN QUANTUM MECHANICS. ALMOST. NOT QUITE. <P> SERIOUSLY. NOT ONE OF YOU FUCKING NANCYBOYS HAVE SAID MUCH OTHER THAN: "THE NEW TREK IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE OLD BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO THINK. <P> PRICELESS.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    REASONS WHY YOU DOLTS LOVE THE NEW TREK:

    by TITBAG

    1. I DON'T HAVE TO THINK AT ALL WHILST WATCHING. I LIKE THAT. <P> 2. MY GIRLFRIEND LOVED IT AND THAT MIGHT GET ME TO 2ND BASE THIS WEEKEND. <P> 3. MY MOMMY LOVED IT. <P> 4. THE OTHER TREK FILMS MADE ME THINK AND THAT MADE MY HEAD HURT.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    TITBAG, Come on, we know you love QUINTO!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    How can you not love ZACHARY QUINTO?!!

  • July 2, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    No, I really, really liked THE WRATH OF KHAN. In fact, I generally love sci fi films. However, if we want to apply such critique to STAR TREK (2009), we must be prepared for the same level of critique of our other favorite films. <p>I am one of the millions of people who really enjoyed this new TREK film. Was it flawed? Of course -- like every other science FICTION film made. Was it faithful to TREK lore? That depend on who you ask. However, I truly fail to entertain the argument that this film sucked in comparison to every other TREK film. For that matter, every other TREK film (except WRATH OF KHAN and two or three of the others) left a lot to be desired. </p> <p>The point?</p><p> STAR TREK in its former incarnations died with ENTERPRISE. It was on life support anyway, dying with each passing day and every aging Trekkie. The studios refused to invest into what they felt was a franchise money pit. This is why there is a new TREK to begin with. There just weren't enough fans to continue pumping money into a dying franchise. Many people (most people) actually didn't think that the franchise was EVER worthwhile to begin with. </p> <p>Of course, I liked it. I liked the series...the movies...and even the video games. But to me, it was just a flawed group of film and television series...not a religion. Besides, Roddenberry's vision of the universe in the 23rd century changed with every passing year of his life. If anything, I think that this new film was more faithful to the original Shatner series than most of the films. I watched it four times (once with my coworkers). It was the first film in a long time that I heard a loud ovation. </p>One might say that it was "groovy." Of course, this is just my own flawed opinion.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    OK one last kick at a dead dog "Asimov's Tit"...

    by AbramsPRIME

    Hey Asi....wow...minutia of "continuity in YOUR Trek universe"...really? Still beating that horse...who CARES about continuity from from a movie 20 plus years ago that sequelized an episode from 15 years previously??? Besides YOU I mean....I like Khan very much....in fact it's the only Good Trek in the previous 10...but (here's where you start building your ANGRY rant between spasmatic crying jags)...JJ Trek was fine....it' tipped it's hat to Khan and several other Treks (that tip of the hat WAS intended as "respect/homage" but of course YOU read it as "he's fucking RAPING/MOCKING/DESTROYING what came before") and "bookends" Khan nicely (I know...HOW DARE YOU you say, mustering all the fury of a wronged geek as you can....). And TitSag...moving chair....c'mon...You're going to keep bringing up a throwaway piece of comic relief (and certainly better than Scotty knocking himself out in FF or Data's "Emotion Chip Shecky Green impersonation" comic relief from several NG eps and movies) as the "people exhibit #1 of "what's wrong with newTrek"? So you're saying in the 40 years of TrekPRIME, the writers NEVER used Spock's penchant to say "facinating"(or another character to mock/echo him) for comic relief???" REALLY??? Both your latest arguments are making that sound again....you know, the sound of water slipping through a sieve...aka holding no water.... Peace out I'm done......keep up your 'good fight'....it'll keep you both from rifling a crowd from a clocktower....

  • July 2, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST

    MORE REASONS WHY YOU DOLTS LOVE THE NEW TREK:

    by TITBAG

    1. THE BERMAN AND BRAGA STORY LINES WERE JUST TOO COMPLEX FOR ME TO FOLLOW AND MADE MY HEAD HURT. <P> 2. NOT ENOUGH EXPLOSIONS. POW! POW! POW! <P> 3. TOO MUCH SCIENCE. <P>

  • July 2, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    TITBAG said something funny once...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I believe the phrase was "Foxhole Buggery". It made me laugh. So much so that I'm going to use it in a sentence.<P>TITBAG and AssimovLives mutually enjoy Foxhole Buggery.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    big diff between TREK and BATMAN4 and a waaayy big diff between akiva goldsman and JJ. <P>dude you brought up regarding henry...ouch.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    TITBAG ADMIT YOUR LOVE FOR ANTON YELCHIN!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • July 2, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Fuck off, you fucking weirdo loser! What's really scary about you is that you have no idea how creepy and obsessive your rants are. It's pathological, dude. You need help.<P>BTW - if you're posting on AICN, you've already lowered yourself to my "level".<P>So, I win!

  • July 2, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Fucking ass!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

  • July 2, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    if you're gonna complain about TREK getting dumbed down then you need to start with Khan. <P>they went this direction when they found the first film to be too cerebral. <P>shit come to think of it, start with the 2nd pilot of the original series, when they said THE CAGE was too cerebral. TREK 4 was pretty comedic and could be said to be dumbed down, as was FINAL FRONTIER. <P>its, and i hate to say this, but our tastes our changing as an audience. yes, people like Paul Blart and yes people like TREK, but those two films couldnt be further from each other. <P>and Batman and Robin, that was just to sell toys, which what TREK is not about.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Ass-imov....

    by AbramsPRIME

    If you or TitGag actually had some scientific background that didn't come from comic books, I might take some tiny bit of offense....what part makes you "suspect".... 1) Is the "Infinite Parallel Universe theory" as posited WRONG? You have some "Popular Science" or "Wired" article that you gleaned this knowledge from? 2) I've already posted that the "Black hole/timewarp/red matter/lack of gravitational tidal forces...except for the Final Black hole" is fallacy/fantasy/internal logic plot device....but so is Star Wars vision of 'Hyperspace travel" which, BTW set the RULES for star travel in the SW universe, only to break them in "Empire" when the Falcon goes from Hoth to Bespin WITHOUT hyperdrive....unless Bespin is a moon of Hoth or vice versa....so is Stargate's "stable wormhole" premise.... so is the 'antimatter explosion' over the Vatican denouement in "Angels and Demons" (Factually, the matter antimatter annihilation would have fried the Vatican and most of Italy in a nice toasty Gamma radiation downpour...). You can throw all the science you want (and frankly I can throw a LOT more) at any SF movie or any movie in general (how many laws of physics/rules of ammunition are broken in the average "supercop/Die hard type" movie...the hero doing superhuman stunts that would kill a person or never running out of ammo on his 15 shot Glock?). Bottom line, there's a suspension of Disbelief in every movie and every person has a different level....yes the fakeTrek science pulled me out of the movie/bugged me on a few occasions but I'm used to that from other Trek (TrekPRIME) shows that I've seen....I don't go to a Trek flick to get a refresher on particle physics or theoretical temporal mechanics...beating down a movie for Bad Science doesnt make it a bad movie (I think Empire is the best SW movie bar none)...it's a fictional MOVIE, not a graduate science lecture....but someone like you will grasp at anything to tear down this movie (Ignoring that previous Treks committed the same "fakescience" sin....)...That's the crux of your Myopia....you can't apply the same hyperpersnickedy criteria you apply to NewTrek (which you hate) to TrekPRIME (which you love)....it's called being a hypocrite...

  • July 2, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I see why they cut the Klingons

    by NoHubris

    Nero and the crew of the Narada were enough. Too many bad guys in the first Trek reboot film would've ruined it for the next one IMHO.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Well, they did mention Klingons in the movie

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Uhura says that Starfleet got unconfirmed reports of the Narada attacking 47 warbirds.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    NoHubris!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Long time, no see. Good to see you, sir.

  • July 2, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Klingons wouldve been nice

    by Six Demon Bag

    that wouldve explained to the retards what Nero and crew were doing those 25 years.

  • July 2, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    MR NICE GAIUS

    by TITBAG

    I'M GLAD I MADE YOU LAUGH YOU FUCKING MONG BUT AT LEAST YOU GIVE ME CREDIT INSTEAD OF RIPPING OFF ALL MY BITS LIKE BRINGTEABAGGINBACK.

  • July 2, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    STEPHEN HAWKING: "ABRAMSPRIMEDANDPUMPED"

    by TITBAG

    "JUST BECAUSE YOU WALKED PASS A PHYSICS CLASS ONCE WHILST PUSHING YOUR BROOM AT YOUR LOCAL JUNIOR COLLEGE DOES NOT MAKE YOU QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING REMOTELY RELATED TO PHYSICS."

  • July 2, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    RODDENBERRY: "EVEN THAT GOOFY PICARD CLONE...

    by TITBAG

    ...WAS MORE THREATENING THAN THAT FAGGOTY ILL-CONCEIVED NERO. FFS."

  • July 2, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    I'VE GOT A DEGREE IN PHYSICS

    by TITBAG

    ASK ME A QUESTION YOU FUCKTARDS.

  • July 2, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    HERE'S A BIT OF PHYSICS I WORKED OUT:

    by TITBAG

    Q: WHEN ABRAMSPRIME IS ASSFUCKING BSEXYB, HOW MANY TIMES DOES ABRAMSPRIMEDICKHEAD SCREAM OUT "CALL ME JJ YOU FAGGOT!!!!!!!" <P> A: INCALCULABLE.

  • July 2, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    ANOTHER BIT OF PHYSICS FOR YOU ALL:

    by TITBAG

    Q: WHEN ABRAMSPRIMECOCK IS GIVING BSEXYB ASS-TO-MOUTH, HOW MANY TIMES DOES HE PURPOSELY MISS IN ORDER TO GIVE BSEXYB A SHIT MUSTACHE? <P> A: INCALCULABLE.

  • July 2, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    STILL WAITING FOR MY PHYSICS QUESTIONS

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    hey TITBAG I'm supposed to be the douche in these threads

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Not you!

  • July 2, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Titbag and his boy wonder sidekick Asimov

    by AbramsPRIME

    Yawn!! Oh sorry did you say something that made any sense? No...OK Star Trek Universe? please, here's the hypocricy dude...You're willing to accept that new science discoveries here in the Real world should be folded into Treklore even if it contradicts your all important continuity but you WON't accept anything else that diverges from your made up , based on some Star Trek Encylopedia by Okuda (who was just trying for a "ancillery paycheck") "timeline/Canon/Continuity".... That exactly what's wrong with you HARDcore TrekPRIMERS and why the mainstream left Trek behind after TNG wrapped it's TV run....you can't let go of this silly notion that anything with Star Trek on the title HAS TO conform to some 40 year old fictional universe that is already RIFE with contradictions....You're defending something that can't really be defended because it's already "broken" in the sense that the 'Trek Timeline/Continuity line" is already NOT whole, doesn't hold up to scrutiny and is just a hodge podge pasted together melange.... And you don't need a physics degree (which I do have) to see that. Fact is, ALL your criticisms of NewTrek could also apply to TrekPRIME....you just dont' want to because you're still living in your childhood fantasy world as all hardcore Trekkies and SW geeks and World of Warcraft and D&D nerds do....These worlds are SO important to you because you really can't function with any high degree of ability in the REAL world you your retreat into your fantasy world and now you feel threatened because a Trek movie came along that didn't correspond to your little world and surprise...it was hugely popular...now you feel threatened so you lash out in an angry and most times nonsensical way at the movie that threatens to shrink or wipe away your "perfect fantasy world". And I dont even need a Psychology degree to see it....it's so obvious basement dwellers..The sheer passion and anger that you display clearly shows you're doing it because you both have NOTHING else aside from your made up fantasy worlds.... You used Nolan Batfilms as some example of how to reboot right and honor the source material....REALLY....which source material? Which Batman comic (there have been many that do contradict each other)....the Burton movies....contradicts those,...the Schumacher...them too...No, Nolan pulled off the hardest trick in the world....he made a hugely popular MAINSTREAM entertainment that DID't piss off the hardcore fans, even it contradicted some of the 60 years of Batlore....but then again even the most HARDcore Batfans aren't sticking to this ridiculous fantasy of "only one TRUE Bat timeline"...this ONE point more than anything is why Trekkies are mocked and ridiculed almost more than any other Fanbase (except maybe...maybe Star Wars) by the mainstream......You're not smarter, or better or more enlightened than the mainstream....your just stuck in your own Zealotry that "I'm right and everyone else is a fucktard" when the reality is, YOU'Re the ones that come across as fucktards for just lashing out to a ridiculous degree at anyone who disagrees with you, and you come across as emotionally or mentally unbalanced to throwing SO much time, effort and anger to defend property that has moved on without you....

  • July 2, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Titbarge: re you physics question....

    by AbramsPRIME

    Um I'm not asking you a physics question because I know you got all your "science" from comic books and wikipedia.... That boat has sailed....as posted and reposted and laughed about several times....I challenged you to prove I don't know Quantum Physics....show me where I'm wrong, I don't know what I'm talking about and the accepted Hawking on down theories I mentioned are wrong....you went quiet, logged off and ran away like a putz, like a 4 year old who just wet his gymbories because he saw a spider.....don't take my word for it....your audience here on this talkback was MOCKING you, laughing at you and saying you got totally SLAMMED....Now I know you don't believe in "popular opinion", that you think yourself/wanna be the Kim Jong Il "dictator of the internet"....problem is you have no credibility, power, charisma or any obvious intellegence beyond what it take to log on to the internet.....you're a tiny little powerless person who thinks by making big noise expletive filled nonsense on the internet is now "relevant"...but your not....Rage and bitch all you...you KNOW it true and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it except cry to mommy and daddy (who'll probably beat you for being a "weirdo", which would explain your angry antisocial behavior)..... So nice try on the "Physics question"..Much like TrekPRIME, you're trying to rewrite history and hope not one notices the paste over job.....

  • July 2, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    the toys have been around a lot longer than 2009..trust me..they had MEGO dolls back in the day...so you cant give me that.

  • July 2, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    ta Boyz...

    by AbramsPRIME

    while it's been fun picking Tit and Asi's halfbaked arguments apart with ease....they are at the point they're just repeating themselves over and over.....so hopefully someone else here will take over the slapdown....it's really not that difficult.... See you at the JJTrek2 Premiere!!!!

  • July 2, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    ABRAMSPRIMEMEAT

    by TITBAG

    I LIKED HOW YOU CAPITALIZED 'SLAMMED' AND 'MOCKING'. OTHER THAN THAT YOUR TITBARGE POST WAS PURE SHITE.

  • July 2, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    THIS IS A GREAT TALKBACK AND THE BEST THING ABOUT IT?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    "THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS TB IS WHEN... <p> by TITBAG Jul 1st, 2009 09:30:43 PM <p> ...ABRAMSPRIMEDANDREADY ACTUALLY STATED THAT HE'S GOT HIS DEGREE IN STUDYING QUANTUM MECHANICS AND STRING THEORY. FUCK ME. I NEARLY SPILT ME TEA LAUGHING. <p> FUCK. THAT WHOLE POST MAY JUST HAVE BEEN AS LAUGHABLE AS THIS FUCKING TURD OF A MOVIE. <p> STUDIED QUANTUM MECHANICS. OH LORD THAT'S FUCKING RICH. THE IDIOT CAN BARELY PUT TOGETHER A COHESIVE SENTENCE BUT HE'S AN EXPERT ON QUANTUM MECHANICS." <p> --------------------------------------------------------------- <p> TitWag... <p> by AbramsPRIME Jul 1st, 2009 09:38:14 PM <p> Again, too little, too late, not funny except to your troubled little locked in mind.... If I have NO expertise in QM, show me up...tell me where the "Infinite parallel universe theory" is WRONG....show up Mr. Hawking....please genius....show all these mooks that I DIDN't study QM....prove me wrong....you'd run out of Wikipedia arguments in about 4 minutes. <p> ---------------------------------------------------------------- <p> *TITBAG LOGS OFF*

  • July 2, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    ASB is off the chain

    by Six Demon Bag

    you're killing me...i keep cracking up at "TITBAG logs off"

  • July 2, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    ASB

    by Six Demon Bag

    i picture TITBAG "logging off" by him smashing his fists into the monitor with his retard strength cause he gets upset. then he asks his mom when shes done fucking all the men lined up for her to take him to best buy or walmart and spend her hard earned money. <P>they get home, he hooks up said monitor, sloooowly reads ASBs retorts and smashes monitor again.<P>rinse. repeat.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    I NEVER LOG OFF YOU PONCES

    by TITBAG

    I AM THIS TALKBACK AND I'M ALWAYS HERE.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Hey SDB, whats up dude? Have you checke

    by southafricanguy

    d out marketsaw.com? Check out the SD comic con banner advertisement.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    STILL WAITING ON THAT PHYSICS QUESTION

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST

    SDB - WE SHOULDN'T LAUGH AT FAILBAG'S EXPENSE

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    but he gives us no choice. I hope he stocks up on monitors, he is one crazy bastard!

  • July 2, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST

    "RETARD STRENGTH"

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    LOL SDB!

  • July 2, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    I WORKED OUT ANOTHER PHYSICS PROBLEM

    by TITBAG

    Q: IF SIXDEMONDICKS, BRINGFELCHINGBACK, AND ABRAMSPRIMENOODLE EACH SHOT LEAD BALLS OUT OF THEIR ASSHOLES, WHILE LEAD BALL WOULD GO THE FARTHEST? <P> A: NONE OF THEM BECAUSE BRINGFELCHINGBACK'S ASSHOLE IS SO DISTENDED THAT IT WOULD NEVER WORK. FRICTION IS REQUIRED, YOU SEE.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    IF I WAIT LONG ENOUGH WILL BRINGCOCKBACK...

    by TITBAG

    ...EXPLAIN THOSE SPECIAL BLACK HOLES AGAIN? <P> I'M VERY PATIENT.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    HAS THE PWNAGE STARTED YET?

    by TITBAG

    OH YES. <P> IT INDEED HAS. <P> FASCINATING.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    ERROR #405

    by TITBAG

    ERROR 405: EPIC FAIL ON THE PART OF BSEXYB <P> #ATTEMPT AT WIT HAS RESULTED IN AN EPIC FAIL. <P> #WIT AND HUMOUR SECTION OF THE BRAIN MAY HAVE BEEN REMOVED, OR YOU MAY NOT HAVE WRITE PRIVILEGES FOR THAT SECTION. <P> #FURTHER ATTEMPTS MAY RESULT IN PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE AND COULD BE EVIDENCE OF SERIOUS RETARDATION. <P> #COPYING TITBAG'S POSTING AND ALL CAPS STYLE IS NOT CONSIDERED HUMOUR NOR CLEVER AND HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EPIC FAIL.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    tit..you cant even insult correctly..

    by Six Demon Bag

    Q: IF SIXDEMONDICKS, BRINGFELCHINGBACK, AND ABRAMSPRIMENOODLE EACH SHOT LEAD BALLS OUT OF THEIR ASSHOLES, WHILE LEAD BALL WOULD GO THE FARTHEST? A: NONE OF THEM BECAUSE BRINGFELCHINGBACK'S ASSHOLE IS SO DISTENDED THAT IT WOULD NEVER WORK. FRICTION IS REQUIRED, YOU SEE.<P><P>if this were in fact true, then 'felchingback" would be the shortest distance, not that the scenario could never happen..jagoff..<P><P>HERE IT COMES....RETARD ANGRY!!! SMASH!!!! <P>see you in a few hours, hurry i think the stores are closing soon for the holidays.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:25 p.m. CST

    the "red matter black holes"...

    by Six Demon Bag

    are different from naturally occurring black holes....how hard was that?<P>try to correct me, please. have you ever gone through a black hole? ever seen one? know what the TRULY do? no? night night.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    SAG--whats up?

    by Six Demon Bag

    yeah pretty cool. cant wait for Dec...should be heaven..hows it going in your neck of the woods?

  • July 2, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    SAG

    by Six Demon Bag

    do you know when comic con is? i gotta bro-in-law who lives there, might have to go this year...if at all possible.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    TITBAG, SHARE YOUR JOHN CHO LOVE!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    JOHN CHOOOO!!!

  • July 2, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    NO ONE MENTIONED 'RED MATTER BLACK HOLES'

    by TITBAG

    YOU FUCKING TWAT. CHRIST. DID YOU EVEN SEE THIS MOVIE? SPOCKWAYPASTHISPRIME SAID, QUITE CLEARLY, BLACK HOLE. <P> FFS

  • July 2, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    COMIC CON

    by TITBAG

    OH FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST. FIGURES.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    automated message

    by Six Demon Bag

    im sorry.titbag is not in right now, but if you would like to leave a message, grunt into the speakers on your computer, cause that is what he does, not realizing that it wont be heard. thank you and have a pleasant day, for titbag is a retard who likes flan smeared all over his bloated belly.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    black hole..which was created in part by RED MATTER..

    by Six Demon Bag

    thanks. night night.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    WHAT

    by TITBAG

  • July 2, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG'S GREETING: "IF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A WASTE OF TIME

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    to leave a message for a retard, go ahead now. Beep!"

  • July 2, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    black hole

    by Six Demon Bag

    After the initial red matter detonation, an implosion ensues which creates the black hole. A black hole is essentially a point where extreme gravitational forces converge. These forces are so strong that not even light can escape (hence the name 'black hole'). Normal space-time is distorted, which, in this new Star Trek, creates a 'tunnel' through space and time. When a ship enters a black hole from outside, it enters the tunnel, comes out of the other end, and will not be damaged. At least, this is how it works in the new Star Trek universe!

  • July 2, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    titbag

    by Six Demon Bag

    what what?

  • July 2, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    THESE ARE MAN-MADE BLACK HOLES

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Not your garden variety. SDB's logic is sound.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    WHAT WHAT WHAT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 2, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    THE RED MATTER SIMPLY RIPS A HOLE IN THE FABRIC OF TIME/SPACE

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    or something to that effect. I never studied QM or string theory like Titbag claims.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    FAILBAG IMPLODED LAST NIGHT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I recorded the event for posterity.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    I INVENTED QM AND STRING THEORY YOU MONG

    by TITBAG

    JUST LIKE I SINGLE HANDEDLY INVENTED THIS TB.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A COMIC CON

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    but they look like 'hella' fun.

  • July 2, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    WHAT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

  • July 2, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    THOSE ARENT DLITHIUM CRYSTALS

    by lockesbrokenleg

    THEY'RE FOLGERS CRYSTALS!!!

  • July 2, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    ASB--comic con

    by Six Demon Bag

    it is supposed to have an AVATAR panel..but i think its sold out.

  • July 2, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    TITBAG: "WE'VE REACHED VULCAN SIR."

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Titbag Sr.: "Prepare the drill." *Unzips pants* <p> Titbag: "Launching red matter sir." *Lubes asshole with ketchup* <p> Titbag Sr.: "Punch it!!!!"

  • July 2, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    tit

    by Six Demon Bag

    i invented the internet that you're surfing now...hence you fail.

  • July 2, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    I AM KEEPING AN OPEN MIND ABOUT AVATAR

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I give Cameron respect for not leaking half the film before the premiere, unlike every other film out there.

  • July 2, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I INVENTED THE ALL CAPS SUBJECT

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Years before Failbag showed up. Damn, has it been that long?

  • July 2, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    LATER, SDB - HAPPY FOURTH, MAKE IT A FUN AND SAFE ONE

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    and please close the external inertial dampeners when you leave.

  • July 2, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    NERO, WOULD YOU LIKE A CHANCE TO LIVE

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Even though you destroyed Vulcan, and almost destroyed Earth?

  • July 2, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    ASB--

    by Six Demon Bag

    red matter--ketchup!!! classic.<P><P>hey, do you have any speculation as to what Danielle did to Dina? im dying here. my wife thinks shes tried to have her whacked. i think not. your thoughts?

  • July 2, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    CHRIST BUT YOU ARE THICK IN THE HEAD AREN'T YOU

    by TITBAG

    BRINGINGDULLTHOUGHTBACK, YOU ARE A PEACH. I NEVER GET SICK OF USING YOU AS MY MENTAL PUNCHING BAG.

  • July 2, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    AND YOU DIDN'T START USING ALL CAPS...

    by TITBAG

    ...IN YOUR POSTS UNTIL I SHOWED UP YOU FUCKING TWAT. CHRIST, KIDS THESE DAYS. NO RESPECT FOR THEIR BETTERS.

  • July 2, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    SIXCOCKEDDEMON

    by TITBAG

    IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE READY FOR SOME HOT MAN-ON-MAN ACTION THE WAY YOU'VE BEEN HIGH FIVING BRINGINGDULLBACK. CAREFUL. HIS ASS IS FULLY PROLAPSED SINCE RETURNING FROM FIRE ISLAND LAST WEEKEND.

  • July 2, 2009, 11 p.m. CST

    SixDemonBag

    by DrMorbius

    Comic Con will be July 23, 24, 25, 26, Thurs-Sunday.

  • July 2, 2009, 11:51 p.m. CST

    TITBAG: "I'M A GLUTTON FOR FAIL."

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    "And I think gay-based insults are insulting." <P>

  • July 2, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST

    PLAGIARIST TITBAG STRIKES AGAIN

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    TITBAG: "I ENJOY BEING A PUNCHING BAG" by BringingSexyBack Jul 1st, 2009 09:39:09 PM <p> -------------------------------------------------- <p> CHRIST BUT YOU ARE THICK IN THE HEAD AREN'T YOU by TITBAG Jul 2nd, 2009 09:19:20 PM BRINGINGDULLTHOUGHTBACK, YOU ARE A PEACH. I NEVER GET SICK OF USING YOU AS MY MENTAL PUNCHING BAG.

  • July 3, 2009, 12:31 a.m. CST

    TITBAG said......

    by DrMorbius

    "I SINGLE HANDEDLY INVENTED THIS TB".<P>Because he was using the other hand to DIDDLE himself.

  • July 3, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST

    MNG!

    by NoHubris

    Thanks for the kind words, good sir.

  • July 3, 2009, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Are we still going at it?

    by D.Vader

    I fucked Titbag's mom last night, WHEEEEEEE!!!

  • July 3, 2009, 4:49 a.m. CST

    In the interests of the Cult TV series of Trek

    by SisterSpooky

    As I would recommend to anyone of any Cult TV classic/hit: TV or film. Is to always watch from the very beginning rather than when the series matured to the point and a new person(s) has took over it's reign. By then like I said it'll have the Mission Impossible feel to it. It's the Series/film by name but not by the true nature or essence of what it was in it's Heyday.

  • July 3, 2009, 7:03 a.m. CST

    NEXT UP: SEE BRINGINGBORINGBACK CONTINUE TO...

    by TITBAG

    REWRITE HISTORY: <P> "I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU MY MENTAL PUNCHING BAG" BY TITBAG JAN 1ST, 1994 07:41:03 PM <P> "I'VE JUST INVENTED THE INTERNET. I HOPE ALL YOU FAGGOTS LIKE IT." BY TITBAG OCT 1ST, 1969 12:05:04 AM <P> "THIS IS THE VERY FIRST POST IN THE VERY FIRST TALKBALK AND IT'S CLEAR THAT NONE OF YOU NANCY-BOY PONCES AT AICN UNDERSTAND FILM." BY TITBAG NOV 23RD, 1996 10:13:01 PM <P> NOW WAS AS THE NONCE STEALS THIS FUNNY AS SHIT IDEA....

  • July 3, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST

    OF COURSE, SHAHSEXYBACK WASN'T ALWAYS THIS HOSTILE:

    by TITBAG

    "HEY TITBAG YOUR KINDA CRUEL BUT I LOVE YOUR STYLE MAN. ROCK ON. I HATED THE NEW TREK AS WELL!" BY BRINGSEXYBACK JUNE 15TH, 2009 08:56:06 PM

  • July 3, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST

    THEN, MY RESPONSE SECONDS LATER....

    by TITBAG

    "BRINGCOCKBACK YOU'RE A FUCKING DOUCHEBAG AND WHY HAVE YOU SUDDENLY STARTED TO USE ALL CAPS YOU FUCKING MONG. CHRIST THE LACK OF ORIGINALITY IS STAGGERING AROUND HERE" BY TITBAG JUNE 15TH, 2009 08:59:01 PM

  • July 3, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST

    THEN, MY RESPONSE SECONDS LATER....

    by TITBAG

    "BRINGCOCKBACK YOU'RE A FUCKING DOUCHEBAG AND WHY HAVE YOU SUDDENLY STARTED TO USE ALL CAPS YOU FUCKING MONG. CHRIST THE LACK OF ORIGINALITY IS STAGGERING AROUND HERE" BY TITBAG JUNE 15TH, 2009 08:59:01 PM

  • July 3, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST

    by TITBAG

    "I LOVE COCK." BY BRINGSEXYBACK JUNE 15TH, 2009 09:00:00 PM

  • July 3, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST

    by TITBAG

    "I LIKE PASTE." BY BRINGSEXYBACK JUNE 15TH, 2009 09:01:00 PM

  • July 3, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    by TITBAG

    "TITBAG IS GOD." BY BRINGSEXYBACK JUNE 15TH, 2009 09:04:03 PM

  • July 3, 2009, 7:22 a.m. CST

    by TITBAG

    "CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT A BLACK HOLE IS?" BY BRINGSEXYBACK JUNE 15TH, 2009 09:10:08 PM

  • July 3, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Sci/fi if's Excapeism

    by creatorsid

    Sci/fi if's Excapeism with cool things that one day could end up in your pocket on your car in your home or saving your life ST, Dr.Who, SW, TOBSG, Statgate, Farscape, even Red Dwarf, Sliders, B5, Firefly could be a hard place to be but still fun. . But Ok who would really want to live in Ronald D. Moore's BSG hell even his Virtuality sounds painful.

  • July 3, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Ok here is my problem

    by rogueleader66

    Nobody, and I mean NOBODY here has ever seen a black hole, gone thru one, oh yea, there is no real physical evidence of one, and even if there is, no one knows what they can truly do, it is all theory and conjecture, so no one here can truly say what a black hole can or cannot do. I am NOT pointing to anyone in particular, I am making a general statement because of all the banter I have seen on this TB concerning black holes, that's all. Please people, let's not make this a science class, especially one about black holes. Carry on!

  • July 3, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    ROGUE HERE IS YOUR REAL PROBLEM

    by TITBAG

    YOU'RE A FUCKING DOLT.

  • July 3, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    TITBAG

    by rogueleader66

    A dolt huh? Wow that was so original!! Did you come up with that all by your self? Awwwww titbag is a big boy now!! Keep it up foolbag, you are so amusing!

  • July 3, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    DOLT I CAME UP WITH MYSELF

    by TITBAG

    IF YOU NEED ME TO DUMB IT DOWN I'LL HAVE TO GET BORINGFUCKISBACK TO TRANSLATE.

  • July 3, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Oh dear

    by moneymouth77

    If those were their main ideas... uh oh Hollywood. Uh oh part 2!

  • July 3, 2009, noon CST

    AsimovLives

    by rogueleader66

    Ty my friend, nice to see some respect around here, it is rare.

  • July 3, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by rogueleader66

    I understand what you are saying, but I just cannot get past his nonsensical immature rantings and insults to anyone and everyone, and perhaps that's a fault on my part, but to me, the difference with him is he has no respect, at all, for anything or anyone. That makes it impossible for me to respect his opinions in any way.<P>You are very strong in your opinions, but you do not insult unless you feel you are insulted first, and I am the same way (most of the time anyways LOL). That is the difference.<P>Listen, we have our own opinions and feel strongly about them. No one opinion is any more right than the other. As you have said before, you feel your opinion is the right one, just like we all do. The only time I feel insulted/dissrespected by someone else's opinion is when they try to make me feel as if I am an asshole because my opinion does not concur with theirs. It is one thing to disagree with someone, it is totally another to disagree and insult someone like they are a fool or a sheep or whatever, that is just some kind of superiority complex and it is sad that people have the need to feel superior amongst a group of strangers. Immature insults and nonsensical rantings, IMO, just mask a much bigger problem with the person doing it.<P>Honestly, anything Titbag or any other fool like him says really has no effect on me, he doesn't know me personally so anything he or anyone else says about me really doesn't matter. The people who know me, it's their opinions that matter just a bit more than some fool who has a silly need to insult for no reason. There are some people on here who I like to chat with, present company included, as well as SAG, SDB, Vader, and some others, and we all have mutual respect for one another despite our different views on things and do not have the need to just throw out childish insults just for the sake of doing it.<P>On a totally unrelated topic, I was just looking thru my DVD collection and would like your opinion on what I consider to be a classic film...Cool Hand Luke w/Paul Newman. Have you seen it and if so what is your opinion on it?

  • July 3, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    ASIMOV

    by TITBAG

    FOR FUCKS SAKE STOP BLATHERING.

  • July 3, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "WOW A MOVING CHAIR. WHAT WILL THOSE..

    by TITBAG

    ...CUTE BOYS FROM THE FUTURE THINK OF NEXT!"

  • July 3, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "THOUGH I GOT TO LICK UHURA'S AMAZING...

    by TITBAG

    ..PRETTY LITTLE ASSHOLE AND GOT TO STAR AT THAT PERFECTLY ROUND POOPER OF HERS DAY IN AND DAY OUT, IT'S THE MOVING CHAIR THAT ACTUALLY WARRANTED A 'FASCINATING'. WHY? BECAUSE THE WRITERS OF THIS DRECK ARE ALL COMPLETE FUCKING HOMOS WITH ZERO IMAGINATION. A MOVING CHAIR. *SIGH*"

  • July 3, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    SPOCK: "MY FUTURE SELF. BORING."

    by TITBAG

    "A MOVING CHAIR. FASCINATING."

  • July 3, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    I HONESTLY COULDN'T BELIEVE IT AND LAUGHED...

    by TITBAG

    ...OUT LOUD IN THE THEATRE. NEARLY CHOKING ON ME COKE WHEN THAT CHAIR MOVED AND SPECK SAID 'FASCINATING.' I THINK I EVEN GROANED AFTERWARDS. <P> THE NOTION THAT IT MOVED BECAUSE THE CHAIR RECOGNIZED HIM AS SPOCK IS FUCKING LAME AND RETARDED AND EVIDENCE OF LAZY WRITING. IT MOVED. THAT'S IT. IT'S NOT HARD TO IMAGINE THAT CHAIRS ON A SPACESHIP IN THE FUTURE WOULD....UH....UH.....UH...MOVE FOR ANYONE. <P> FFS. IT'S NOT LIKE IT MOVED A SPEEEEECIAL WAY FOR SPOCK, OR LICKED HIS BALLS IN JUST THE WAY SPOCKPRIME LIKED. IT'S NOT EVEN THAT IT ADJUSTED TO A PREPROGRAMMED COMFORT POSITION AFTER HE FUCKING SAT IN IT FOR CHRIST SAKES. <P> IT. <P> JUST. <P> MOVED. <P> FFS. <P> ITS A SMALL THING REALLY BUT ACTUALLY SPEAKS VOLUMES IN THAT ONE LITTLE SCENE OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE ENTIRE FUCKING MOVIE: IT'S FANTASTICALLY UNTHOUGHTOUT DRIVEL THAT WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE BEEN GOOD ENOUGH FOR SATURDAY MORNING CARTOON TV BACK IN THE HEYDAY OF 1970S SCIFI. <P> KILL ME NOW.

  • July 3, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    SPOCK REALLY WANTED THAT CHAIR!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    And who could blame him?

  • July 3, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by rogueleader66

    Ok, but you still did not say if you remember liking Cool Hand Luke. It is definitely a favorite of mine. Sorry had to point that out LOL. <P>I too find it odd that we seem to have an affinity despite our sometimes totally opposite points of view, but hey it's all good as far as I am concerned. <P>Oh and thanks for the info on black holes, did not know most of that. I too like useless bits of trivia, my g/f tell me I am full of useless information, and I am and proud of it. <P>Oh, an interesting tidbit. Once when I was in California, i was driving around and saw a food stand and thought it looked familiar. I found it odd seeing as I have never been there before, then I realized it was from the movie Unlawful Entry with Kurt Russell and Ray Liotta. I was so excited that I saw it, and everyone else was like ok who cares. I thought it was funny that I found it so exciting LOL.

  • July 3, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST

    How can one Titbag be a giant douche?

    by Tall_Boy66

    The answer? A lot.

  • July 3, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by SisterSpooky

    I can understand and know exactly how you feel. I've been through this with my fandom as well. So this argument for or against I can see where both sides are coming from. Like all Cult TV/films, my big fear is when it turns mainstream it loses it's uniqueness. I'm beginning to see or may be feel that JJ may be a Mainstreamer rather than Cult. With the boom, boom, boom. Which is one of his signature style in shows.

  • July 3, 2009, 6:53 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    sorry been out all day with the kids...yeah i agree that Gene wouldve shat hisself with the way trek has been handled in the last 10 years..maybe 15..to him i always got that it was about stories and morality plays set in the future..not about making sure the stardates were correct and whatnot..thats pretty much why i only like the first 2 series..i can watch a little DS9 now and then. in the beginning, genes footprint was all over TNG but he was fighting a losing battle. after his death they slowly changed it to what it became. VOYAGER and the later series i dont think are what he had in mind. <P>do i think JJ TREK is what gene wouldve liked? probably not. <P>can it fit into the TREK universe..why not?

  • July 3, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Gene already killed Trek a few times. He very

    by lockesbrokenleg

    nearly didn't get it made with The Cage, and then he almost killed it again with TMP

  • July 3, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    I'M GOING TO SAY THIS ONE MORE FUCKING TIME

    by TITBAG

    TMG IS THE ESSENCE OF TREK AND THOSE THAT THINK IT'S SHITE PROVE THEMSELVES TO NOT UNDERSTAND TREK AT ALL AND SHOULD STICK WITH LUCAS' HORRID FILM SCHOOL REJECT SPACE COMMERCIALS.

  • July 3, 2009, 8:25 p.m. CST

    TALLBOY

    by TITBAG

    FAIL.

  • July 3, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    tit

    by Six Demon Bag

    tmg?

  • July 3, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    The latter Trek series failed because Berman kept

    by lockesbrokenleg

    following old Roddenberry ideas. He didn't break away from that standard and do new things, which is a shame.

  • July 4, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives your right about Cameron

    by SisterSpooky

    and Nolan, though I watched TDK as well and that was great take on Batman. I can see what you mean about that. I always like a guy that takes a good take and true to his material.

  • July 4, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Star Trek's legacy...

    by Bones

    It will be interesting to see where the franchise goes from this point. With the way that modern entertainment franchises go, this version of Star Trek will play out over two to three sequels and then die, because the actors will have moved on to other things or become to expensive to bring back.<p> The Second film will hopefully be an improvement on the first (if it follows the X-Men model) or it will be a on overbloated, steaming pile of shit (if it follows the Transformers 2 model--which was of course written by Star Trek's writers, so draw your own conclusions).<p> Then a Third film will come out and be of incredibly inferior quality, and yet make a truckload of money--like the third part of almost every trilogy ever made (except Lord of the Rings, which was basically made at once over a three year period--and is still the best Trilogy of films pretty much ever).<p> At the end of this trilogy of films, the producers will either hit the reboot button and fix the damage caused by the first film, wrapping up with a CGI Shatner on a slightly high-tech version of the original ship, or they will promise more adventures of the NuTrek crew...which may or may not happen.<p> Trek will probably lay dormant again, until they either decide to remake The Next Generation or reboot Kirk, Spock and company...AGAIN...<p> The funny thing is, I don't need or really want any more adventures of young Kirk and Spock. I want to see what happened to the universe AFTER Picard and company. I hope when they bring back Star Trek it will be set 200 years after Kirk, at a time when the universe is plunged into darkness and the Federation is a dream whispered by people in need of a hero--then we show how a new Federation is born out of the ashes of the old.<p> You know, the way Roddenberry saw Andromeda, when it was his idea for a Trek Sequel.<p> In the end, it doesn't matter. You all can enjoy your three-four movies of mediocrity--I'll enjoy the franchise that I have loved for the past 36 years of my life and the hundreds of hours of entertainment they made.

  • July 4, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    FAILBAG: "TMP IS THE ESSENSE OF STAR TREK"

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    "Me and me dad used to pretend my penis was Ilia and his penis was Decker, and his arse was Vger and my nose was the Enterprise. These are my fondest memories of TMP FFS."

  • July 4, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    ANOTHER COMPLETELY DULL POST FROM WHATSHISNAME

    by TITBAG

    "I'M A COMPLETE DULLARD." BY BRINGSEXYBACK JULY 4TH, 2009 09:04:03 AM

  • July 4, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    OH LOOK ITS THE 4TH OF JULY AND...

    by TITBAG

    "SPARKLERS ARE REALLY NEAT." BY AYATOLLAHSEXYBACK JULY 4TH, 2009 09:05:08 AM

  • July 4, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    i think you're offbase a little here. JJ HAD to do it this way, otherwise he wouldve had his ass handed to him if he just ignored the last 40 years of TREK. i thought it was pretty cool how he was a sequel/reboot, depending on how you look at it. <P>as ive mentioned before, if you can handle MIRROR MIRROR and any other parallel universe ep, this should be okay.<P>as with the batman thing, i think its a little different, but not by much. Batman had derailed pretty bad, they had almost taken it back to Adam West territory, with all the bad puns..jesus. with batman FINALLY being taken seriously in 1989, it was like a breath of fresh air, as was it when Batman Begins came out. Nolan prety much DID do a reboot/prequel thing, though with starting over with Batman, the fans and public are more forgiving than they would be if JJ had just started from scratch and said Pine is Kirk now. for many years, people were loyal to Adam West and hated Keaton.

  • July 4, 2009, 7:34 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Six Demon Bag

    jj paid respect to what came before it..i agree that there reallyisnt any sci-fi in it liek what we expect from a trek film..<P><P>like it or not this is what trek will be now..until it is run into the ground again. this new direction just gives it a little more time..it couldve been worse...a lot worse. <P>in any case, we can always watch the series and films ad infinitum to our content.

  • July 4, 2009, 11:44 p.m. CST

    JJ's Spocks still pussies

    by creatorsid

    I can't swallow parallel universe excuses for all the crap we got in the movie. SpockPrime or universe-1 Spock was such a weak tool shadow of him self (ie.handding over the keys to a one man Death Star to the bad guys.)I'm not shoure Leonard Nimoy is all that forgiveable for taking JJ's pay checks for this one? And anyone see some of the newer crew line up pics? It's not Kirk,Spock,McCoy no we got a new dynamic Kirk,Spock,Uhura maybe McCoy maybe Scotty who knows Sulu mite beet out McCoy and Scotty in this new dynamic.