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Richard Kelly's adaptation of Richard Matheson's THE BOX trailer is online!!!
Hey folks, Harry here with Richard Kelly's long awaited BOX trailer. I saw this a few days ago, 'round the time that Beaks put his interview with Richard up, but I knew the trailer was coming up soon, so why not just wait for it to hit for everyone. The initial hook - press the button and someone you do not know dies and you get $1 million. I don't know. My initial impulse is to press the button all day everyday for a month. But I bet there'd be some pretty dire consequences. And I'd probably end up regretting it. Whilst bathing in millions upon millions of sweet moolah. What would you do? Would you just be satisfied to be Cameron Diaz's significant other - or would you start Ringo-ing out? Here's the trailer in Glorious Quicktime!!!
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yay!
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http://tinyurl.com/lm9bpe
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Was pretty good.Pretty creepy and brought up some good questions.I hope this doesnt stray too far from the original intent.
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Just don't trust this project yet, a few good reviews might sway me, probably not though.
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The film has themes similar to the SAW films (in a very vague sense) and the trailer uses music from SAW. Looks good.
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Non humans escape from District 9 <P> http://tinyurl.com/lgg3dy
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What's that link supposed to be for?
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looks great. <p> + he got holmes osborne back for this.
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is way cooler than the music in this trailer makes it out to be, if it's anything like the draft i read. it's one film that's truly like a twilight zone episode.
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Being in the original episode.<br><br>I wonder if it still ends the same as the episode?
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... Oh wait, wrong forum.
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to the greatest level. and i hope the box will proof richard kelly as an director with a unique vison. a vision that maybe ever will ever expand around one theme. but one theme that makes him one day a masterpiece. like donnie darko was the first stone you put in your pocket because you think it was so beautiful. and you couldn't imagine it would be any better but when the whole beach is in front of you ...
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The Village. A cool premise that would be great if kept at 30 minutes. And yes, I know this has already been a Twilight Zone episode. And technically, so was The Village. But trying to flesh out these simple ideas to feature length? Well....we all saw The Village.
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Get the fuck outta here. That is UNWATCHABLE. That barely even resembles a movie.
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rich man's Stephen King? You decide.........
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But Kelly got confused as to what he was doing.
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against all impulses, i continued to watch it, believing (nay, hoping) that the convoluted mess would work itself out into a flash of brilliance in the end. i'm not sure it's possible for someone to have been more wrong.
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I'm in.
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...really doesn't deserve all the hate. It's not a perfect movie by any means, but it was ambitious. And if you're going to disagree with me, please don't quote any Radiohead lyrics. It's a little messy, surem but it's an entertaining mess.
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June 24, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST
a movie can have all the ambition in the world
by jackknifed_juggernaut
but at the end of the day, shit is shit. and ambitious shit still stinks.
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Because aside from the moral implications, I can't think of one bad thing that could happen to you as a result of one person you don't know dying. <p> And I'm assuming they mean people you don't know personally. Presidents don't count.
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June 24, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST
hmm, trailer is brought down by the cheesy saw music
by TheDark0Knight
but it looks awesome & really eerie + Darko is in my top 5 favourite films ever.
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So, you (T2000), sir--are an idiot.
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..We Caaame! 'perhaps she's teasing us...are you teasing us??
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But I'm not a guy who judges a film by the trailer, so I'll wait for some reviews before I decide to go or not.<p> And ye, is the "Saw music" the new "Requiem for a Dream music" in trailers?
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And all he did was ask me which way to the bathroom.
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Whats in the booox?!?!<p> Oh, a button, lol nvm, almost thought you had the head of my woman in there. lol almost got me...
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Even if I was living in squalor and had a wife dying of cancer due to lack of treatment, I would not push that button. It'd be hard if it was my child and the money would save his/her life, but I still could'nt do it. Word.
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With a population of more than 6 billion, if Richard Nixon asked me to push the button within 24 hours I'd wipe out half of Asia.
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June 24, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST
ha! i'd push the fuck out of that button. if he said 10
by jackknifed_juggernaut
people i didn't know would die, my only concern would be "how soon would the loot arrive?"<p> what? i'm not a complete monster. i'd... start a charity in their unknown names... or something.<p>eh, i'd light a candle in their memory annually...<p>*ahem* or every other year...<p>i'd forget all about the poor bastards halfway to Ibiza :(
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"Good God, man! I said a million for A PUSH, that was supposed to be it, you just bankrupted us in five minutes."
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This looks decent.
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After I just posted my last post, I almost got bit by some big ass fire ant (its like an inch long) that came out of nowhere... maybe, there is a reason I got bit by a bee last time I was at a church.<br><br>Oh well, fuck it.
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To be fair, the Twilight Zone episode didn't really fit the "original intent" of Matheson's short story either, at least in terms of the ending (to the point that Matheson used a pseudonym for the Twilight Zone episode and expressed his displeasure).
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June 24, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST
the only thing that would suck about it all is if Nixon
by jackknifed_juggernaut
gave more than one person a box. then, you'd probably be screwed.
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I didn't understand a bit of it but it is a great film to watch.
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wasnt that the SAW music there at the end...look good otherwise
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I actually got to see this LAST june on the warner lot, and it was done except for the arcade fire music (which im sure will rule) and a few FX. The movie was EXCELLENT, and this trailer is a great representation of it. PS: Cameron isnt great and her accent is annoying for a while, but by the end shes actually quite good. The focus group after the movie agreed totally about this.
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Good god that was horrid. The original theme, played at the climax of the first film, is the best. Should have used that. <p> Unless this is a case of them changing the bare minimum of notes to avoid having to pay the composer for the rights to the song.
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Was that not really comical to anyone else? This is entirely disappointing bc I'm a big fan of Darko.
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Like Secret Window or that John Cusack hotel ghost movie: Better as a rental.
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I decided to let the ant live (he'll fucking sting me to death in my sleep).
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but I'd hit that button more often then a lab rat hooked on nicotine.
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This looks better than I thought...but what's up with the damn SAW music being in every trailer?
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and they managed to use sound effects from lost and the Saw music.
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Poor man's Phillip K Dick? Not likely. I Am Legend is one of the greatest science fiction books ever written in my opinion. Dick churned out a lot of crap to pay the bills. Started reading Dr. Bloodmoney the other day, put that down after hundred pages - terribly written and terribly boring.
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Someone please enlighten me. I can't think of another time it was used. Except one. Only I can't remember the title.
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Valkyrie I think
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Thanks. I'm pretty sure you're right. I remember discussing the "SAW themed trailer" within the past year with a friend.
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I (honestly) just had my the toe-nail of left foot get ripped off.<br><br>fuck
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that The Monkey's Paw by W.W. Jacobs (premise) keeps getting reused. The Twilight Zone version of Matheson's story strays quite a bit from the source... it's probably why he asked for his name to be removed off of it. This is a rental at best for me.
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or at least HALFWAY makes sense.
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that's a start.
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I specifically remember someone here mentioning that the 'saw' music was the new version of Clint Mansell's stuff being overused in trailers. I wanna say it was one of the later Valkyrie trailers.
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soo must be Valkyrie...i'm thinking the last trailer
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fuck it.
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'The Reeeedddd button,..... the big red shinnny button.' Of course i'm paraphrasing.
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Beside the sexual innuendo that goes with it, it's far from inspired.
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is fantastic. If this has been executed as well as it's been written, it's going to be really great. The script develops quote nicely and explores some pretty big, sci-fi ideas. Plus, Arcade Fire is doing the score!
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It's no rental.
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God that movie was a piece of shit
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After you push the button they give the box to someone else and then you die if they push it. So yeah, enjoy your money for the few days.
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So knowing Norman Bates is a killer ruins watching Psycho?
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If you'd read Matheson's original short story, you'd know that it (Button, Button) was around long before Saw. So, although the Box may share some themes (vaguely) with Saw, Matheson, the genius that he is, already mined those depths expertly with Button, Button.
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Matheson wrote the short story before it became a Twilight Zone episode (in the 80s). I think it's perfectly within reason to stray from the episode... Why? The short story only hints at the various possibilities and consequences of such a device and people in such a situation--not to mention the character who delivers the box to the couple. I'm willing to follow Kelly wherever he goes on this one...
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nt ... People need to realize that the Marketing department is a place very far away from the creative team that made the movie.
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I'm speaking to all these people in the talkback saying they'd push the button. Don't jump to conclusions.
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While all of you fail at responding in a caustic, witty, or remarkable fashion, Kelly at least achieves something unique. Maybe that is what we need more of.
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might be good but trailer screams 'meh'
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The difference between Matheson and Dick is that... hmmm... Matheson could actually write. Dick is an idea man. Conceptual. Which is great. But, let's face it, the guy was an average writer of prose at best. <p> Matheson, on the other hand, is understated. Simple. Elegant. He's a great writer, and very few people seem to be aware of this fact. He's ridiculously good.
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I realize that, but PresidentBauer was saying how there were vague thematic connections between the two films.
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Deserves a break. He was poorly treated in X-Men and did well in the Notebook. Sure he's been in other things but I can't remember. Kind of reminds me of an American Jamie Bamber.
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actually this time next year the population will have hit the 7 billion mark. We should be up to about 10 billion when the Apophis asteroid comes calling for us in 2035. If it strikes a continent, it should bring us back down to a more reasonable number.
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that theme song is getting a bit overworked
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I couldn't possibly go near his next film without a Hazmat suit and a utility belt full of Cipro.
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Methinks.
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That the danger element the main characters face are relatives of the person who was killed when they pushed the button. I also have a sneaking feeling that frank was the previous box owner, so what happens is you get the box, you eventually press the button some one dies. You never knew them but you soon will know those that loved them. they fuck you and your world up. Now you have to give the box to someone else.
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Pam: For What? <p> Michael: Always offer them an ultimatum
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Cool premise... I wonder how much they messed with the original story for the movie? And is it just me or is Cameron looking rough these days?
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June 25, 2009, 3:54 a.m. CST
For all you "I'd Push It" types. How's about, everytime you push
by ThePilgrim
another Suicide bomber blows up in the Middle East. Sure it kills someone you didn't know and many others as well, and the guy who gave you the box can't be blamed for the murder/suicide it caused. It's just a box until you hit the button. He told you what was up. You're the killer. It's sort of the same if you think about it. It's like a guy showing up to your house with a detonator, and he says ok you push this button and a bomb goes off and it kills people, but what's it matter to you, you don't them. You'll get lots of money. Momentary, monitory tranquility. Show me how much of a heartless selfish prick you really are, Push it....
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fuck
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you got five chances to get it right..
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Oh snap they push the button. nothing happens, or so they think the stranger shows back up he gives them the money, he takes the box. They wonder what he's going to do with the box. He says "Don't worry, I'll be giving it to someone you don't know." <P> Ahahaha so one of them will die, if the new box owner pushes the button. You mean to tell me that that's going to be a feature lenght film. Retarded... I have to see the original TZ episode.
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GIANT PIG!!!
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Seams like a fucking stupid idea but most of the ideas in lost are stupid but they manage to make em work.
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Here's hoping that all of the male actors are naked from the waist down in numerous scenes. I love the smell and taste of other men's testicles.
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Now, move along ppl.
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are fucking idiots. probably even like the fact that they are gutless idiots. probably proud.
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"Button, Button" was first published in Playboy, June 1970, a short story written by Richard Matheson. The story was republished as part of a collection of Matheson's short stories. <p> In the original short story, the plot is resolved differently. Norma presses the button, and receives the money - after her husband dies in a train incident where Arthur is pushed onto the tracks (the money was the no-fault insurance settlement, which is $50,000 instead of the $200,000 in the Twilight Zone episode). A despondent Norma asks the stranger why her husband was the one who was killed. The stranger replies that Norma never really knew her husband. <p> Richard Matheson strongly disapproved of the Twilight Zone version, especially the new ending, and used his pseudonym Logan Swanson for the teleplay." <p> http://postcardsfromthezone.blogspot.com/2006/02/150-button-button.html
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and the short story. just not sure whatelse the movie version can bring to this
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You only got three chances in the Monkey's Paw, remember? One wish was for the money, one to bring their son back, and one to send him back to wherever he came from. <br> <br> Anyway, someone up there is giving mad love to Dick at the expense of Matheson and King. To that, I cry bullshit!. <br> <br> Dick was a terrible writer, terrible! He had one of the greatest Sci-fi minds ever but a very dry, droll, predictable, and boring, yes, BORING writer. I am well read but I'm not going to give you my resume to prove it, let's just say I've read enough to know that Dick isn't the genius that sci-fi fans, and only sci-fi fans make him out to be. Dick's ideas were fucking impossibly cool but he lacked the control to write them in a more palatable and enjoyable way. Matheson didn't have half the imagination of Dick, yet, his books and stories are so much better because Matheson was a great writer. <br> <br> Now to bring Stephen King into this argument is to just open up a huge can of worms. The reason? Something everyone knows, even literary critics, but not a lot of people will admit. <br> <br> Stephen King was blessed at birth to be a writer in the realm of Hemingway, Dostoevsky, Melville, he's got those kinds of chops. Stephen king, however, went a different route with his gift. He chose to scare us, entertain us, and make a shitload of money off of us. No one can begrudge him that decision, but no one can take away the talent that lies beneath the lifelong pile of cheap fiction he has created. Matheson and Dick don't compare. Just the sheer volume of top quality over a period of thirty years is enough to take your breath away; what an imaginarion. <br> <br> Of course, he has tapered off and hasn't written any "A material" in a long time,it seems his hearts just not in it anymore. He is one the best writers of his era and he managed to turn that into a fortune too.
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The problem with this movie is predictable: Cameron Diaz. She's probably the least talented actress working today. Most of her work is unwatchable.
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was HIGH-larious. And eventually very moving. To those of you who didn't get it, I'm really really sorry.
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...I don't even recognize the piece of crap in this trailer.
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I wonder what's up with Langella's face? It seems like part of it is missing completely.
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June 25, 2009, 8:02 a.m. CST
Press the button, random office supplies begin arriving....
by GrandMuffTarkin
That Was Easy.
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This is the most fucking obvious story of all time. I mean, I understand Harry can be a bit fucking clueless at times, but god damn... <p> Harry old boy, you press the button, you get your million dollars. Then the box goes to SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW, and they get the same offer. And this time, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO DIES. And so on. <p> Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb .....
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That's not the original twist
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Nuff said.
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No joke. Donnie Darko fucking sucked. What a hack.
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Nuff said.
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June 25, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST
press the button, get $100000, but someone you dont know dies.
by FleshMachine
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June 25, 2009, 8:49 a.m. CST
mystery man come back for the box: "now i'll give it to someone
by FleshMachine
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! this movie takes 3 lines to tell.
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Is 'box' a euphenism for minge in the US? Cos it is in the UK. AND this one has a big red button. It's a freudian dream come true.
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and brutally murder the old man, then hide the body. If there was a heaven, they'd have a furnished condo waiting for me when I arrived. Of course in a universe with boxes that hand out millions to people in exchange for random lives, heaven does exist.
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When I went to film school in CT in the late 80s, a recent grad had just won the Academy Award for Best Student Film for his version of this story... The film was 10 minutes long, and even that was padded....
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I think I pressed the button and the life I lost was mine. For a few years anyway. And I never got the millions.
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I find, after reading your summary, I much prefer the ending The Twilight Zone used. The short story ending sounds a bit like a cop-out; kind of splitting hairs. The Twilight Zone ending works better, at least for me. The one thing that gave them comfort, that made it possibly ok to live with themselves, takes on an ominous and very disconcerting meaning when the perspective changes.<p>In order to stretch this story out I suspect the third act of this movie will be the couple trying to get the box back.
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I was hoping it was the easy button from staples.
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who the man is or what he is.
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Trust me, its retarded. I mean, maybe Kelly is going to make it a little better, but the short story was stupid.
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I was riding my bike, at a pretty fast speed. Suddenly, I saw the mosy beautiful, purple & blue butterfly, inches in front of my front wheel. <p> I slammed my breaks on, went flying forward, almost landed on the butterfly, but managed to land safely & away from it. <p> The butterfly flew away & I'd done my good deed for the day. Then I saw this trailer. <p> Humans? I'd push that button faster than a pikey starting up a fairground ride. <p> Why? Because I just know some there's some fucker out there who'd do the same to me.
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I bet somewhere out in a slush pile, there is a "Dick in the Box: The Movie" script waiting to be unleashed.
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was barely able to fill out a 20 min segment of the twilight zone.<br> Making it into a movie is a waste of time and money.
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June 25, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST
Nice - theme from SAW - and opening during Saw's usual weekend
by aceattorney
Good stuff.
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I saved a shark when I was at thebeach last week.
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I also helped John Wayne Gacey evade capture for several weeks. <p> Actually, the Butterfly story is true. The type of story that sounds like a cheesy metaphor but isn't:-). <p> I had to mention it however, as I was already thinking about Karma etc before I watched this. Like "given the fact that good people don't always get what they deserve & bad people don't always get punished. Does saving the life of a butterfly actually mean anything? Or should I just be a prick, take what I want, when I want it, be rich, happy & successful & squash the shit out of butterflies for being dumb enough to get in my way?". <p> In that context, it's kinda weird that I came home & saw this.
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this film won't be very good(rich, your batting average...it's bout as good as uew boll right now)...then jsut grab round 2-3 pieces of toast, lather on a HELATHY DOSE of RICHARD KELLY'S TASTY JELLY(tm)-and watch life just get better.And oh yeah, make thjis film watchable
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Care to elaborate?<p> I should probably mention that also where I am, there was an earthquake. It was level 4, which apparently isn't so bad, but I wasn't keen on it. <p> So, butterfly > Earthquake > trailer > = me feeling weird.
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can someone send me a link to the trailer-? I dont have the "tech" to see this trailer!
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It's up on the totalfilm site, but I think that's a youtube embed, so presumably you can find it there too.
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I was at the beach, went for a run during a storm, sought shelter under a pier. Saw that a fisherman from the pier had caught a 3 foot shark a few feet away from me. His kid came down and tried to pull it up but snapped the line. I asked the guy what he wanted to do and he just waved it off. So I thought for a moment, looking at the shark. <p> Then I decided to save it and started dragging it back into the surf. But the waves kept knocking it over and flipping it instead of taking it out to sea. It was dying and was dead tired and wasn't getting any oxygen. So I tried pushing it through the water to force its gills to work. It kept getting flipped. Kid kept telling me it was dead, but he'd thrash his tail every once in awhile. <p> So I kept trying and eventually, a good wave caught him and took him out. I saw him getting flipped around again on the next wave, but as it took him back out again, I saw his dorsal and tail fin right it self correctly. On the next wave, he was gone completely. <p> I felt good.
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dark shite, im a bit of a lazy cunt
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When I was maybe 10, I found a smashed egg on the ground under a tree, with a half-born chick, twitching. Maybe the Mother had decided it wasn't good enough-or a bit simple or something ;-)-& thrown it out.<p> I tried to save it & a kind old lady noticed & gave me an egg carton & some cotton wool. I spent the hour-long journey home breathing on it to incubate it & hatch it. <p> When it hatched, I gave it to my brother, who's friend had a bird house. They put the chick into another bird's nest & we sat in his kitchen to witness the end of the miracle we'd taken part in. <p> The bird came back & murdered it up. Murdered the fuck out of it, bigstyle. The moral of the story? Don't fuck with nature. <p>
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this year they raped him so hard at the oscars, half of his face fell off.
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...a trailer that ruins all the movie beats for you. Not quote "The Negotiator" bad but not great, either.
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Looks incredibly stupid! I especially loved the shot of the guy standing outside the window with his "I wanna coookieeee..." stoned look on his face. Hopefully This will be the final nail in the coffin of Richard Kelly's shit career...
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Now that's a sad, sad story.
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was a beautiful mess. Bewildering casting aside it was actually an amazing film, but I can see why average movie fans couldn't see that. Hard to penetrate.
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Not going to see it in a theater.
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I'd open that box and push that button...and by box I mean vagina!!
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That'd make a good short film right there. Any film students here should take note if you're looking for material. Of course, you'd have to come close to killing a shark to film it... or get some really good-looking fake.
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http://tinyurl.com/3cl2lf Of course, in the side bar description they talk about all the comparisons, etc., different versions of the same story. The music and tone of the short reminded me of a movie like Scanners for some reason.
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I like your take on King. That man can spin like a spider, but somehow ended up being the Danielle Steel of horror. His influence is massive and undeniable, but when he really had his chops his heart was in fun pulp. He only started trying to write prestige books after he ran out of steam. Hard to not give the man his due though, when you look at his impact on film alone the guy is basically the bedrock of modern horror. By the way I think you're a bit unfair to Dick who is not a terrible writer at all. A bit bland and utilitarian sometimes, but can you honestly say something like The Man in the High Castle is terribly written?
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everyone who's saying that the story won't work as a full length film is completely off base. The script widely expands on a number of subjects to keep the viewer intrigued/entertained, and is imho a fine sci-fi story. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you have to like it or else your stupid or sumthin like that, but I'm just letting you know there is much more to the story than the original short.
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Or any pre-release, unreleased, shelved and/or defunct script for that matter? I'm a screenwriter. These things interest me. Oh and if anyone has that Cat's Cradle script that Richard Kelly apparently wrote in a week I would KILL to read that as Cat's Cradle is the #1 book I would like to adapt if given the chance. The Sirens of Titan is #2 of course.
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as the fire button. I'd pwn and be rich.
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I'm a filmmaker myself. I call dibs on the rights =)!
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How does anyone think this movie has merit? Yet another one of those non-risk Hollywood "non-scripts", as in "let's take any short story that was previously successful and pad it the fuck out into 2-hour-plus, FX-laden, backstory-ridden, slick-summer package". As long as audiences support this rotten, cowardly trend, Hollywood will keep on mining "that which has worked before". Hollywood has lost its balls and its brains. Matheson told great short stories. Emphasis on short. Enough of Hollywood raping good, simple material and dressing it up like a Vegas-whore brochure!
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in my humble opinion, due to the simple, yet very effective ending. The idea of having aliens in the mix (i assume the lady with the black eyes and weird brow is an alien, what else would she be? A demon?) seems too dark city to me. I hope it's not another alien/satanic experiment.
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R U kidding me? Ok, so Kelly watched every single Kubrick film and said, to himself, oh i got an idea. The TZ episode was great and there was a great deal at stake. I have had the displeasure of meeting Kelley at Sundance at few years back- ass clown. His friend were great but Kelly, not so much.
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And this time, let the cat eat him.
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June 25, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST
Ohhhh, I thought this had something to do with Sarah Palin.
by Uncle Stan
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Is an underrated actor!
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I'm sold, this is definately on my watch list.
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I consider him perhaps the best science fiction writer of all time. His name is not familiar because he wrote mostly for the small screen. I was not aware of him until the day I finally figured out that ALL of my favorite episodes from various tv shows were written by the same author .. from the Twilight Zone to The Trilogy of Terror to Night Stalker to Duel..
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