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A Script Review For Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND Is Online...

Published at: June 23, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST by merrick

Merrick here...
Earlier this week, we got a sense of what Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND project would look like (HERE). Now we have a feel for how the film's story will unfold, courtesy of a script "review"/synopsis over at CC2K.
Written by Linda Woolverton, who also co-wrote The Lion King, and had a part in Beauty and the Beast, Mulan, and the Teen Wolf cartoon, the script isn’t exactly an adaptation of the original story by Lewis Carroll, as it is an extension of it. Alice went to Wonderland as a child, and she’s now almost grown. She’s 17, and she’s back for more, but doesn’t remember her times there earlier. She’s about to be engaged, maybe. A rich suitor wants to marry her, and the opening scenes of the movie are of her engagement party. But she, of course, gets distracted by a white rabbit.
...says the SPOILERish write-up of the project's screenplay, which can be found HERE.


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  • June 23, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Johnny Depp! Tim Burton!

    by kevinwillis.net

    Wackiness will ensue. Who needs a script?

  • June 23, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    alice is 17?

    by Bouncy X

    now i wont feel as bad watching and........watching.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    You Had Me at "The Teen Wolf Cartoon"

    by kevinwillis.net

    Sure to be a classic.<br><br>I kid, I kid. I'm looking forward to this a lot more than I did Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and the Weird Homosexual Man-Child Willie Wonka. Seriously, did Tim Burton go find Gene Wilder and spit on him, just to make it complete?

  • June 23, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    In before Lost Girls discussion

    by chrth

  • June 23, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Wait, so it's Hook?

    by chrth

  • June 23, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    LOL @ Bouncy X

    by richardphilip

    amen brother.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Script review?

    by kolchak

    Everything there was in the USA today article. BUT latino review has some new stills: http://snurl.com/kpzpb

  • June 23, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    i gave up on burton after apes

    by madCanada

    I'm willing to bet Burton will blow this one the way he always blows it. By taking his source material and making it way too convoluted, self-referential and off-topic.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    What could be interesting is Eat Me makes her

    by chrth

    younger, not smaller. Or smaller and younger.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    WHY?

    by v1cious

    seriously, just leave well enough alone. a remake would've been just fine.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Depp and Burton go together like lamb and tunafish

    by Cronkit

  • June 23, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    The Jabberwocky has a beer and cheets on his King!

    by chrth

  • June 23, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Alice is getting hitched?

    by Cronkit

    shes only 17!! what a slut! Inside her vage must be where wonderland is.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    TEEN WOLF CARTOON?!?!

    by D.Vader

    How do I not remember this from my childhood, yet MC Hammer's cartoon sticks out like a sore thumb?

  • June 23, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Man...

    by Lemure_v2

    did someone have to mention Burton AGAIN?! Now we have to put up with all the sad haters who click on a link about someone they don't like just to post negative crap. How about not clicking on it and looking for attention elsewhere?

  • June 23, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    I actually like this concept

    by kolchak

    Aside from Alice not remembering Wonderland (which they're going to have to explain because it sounds like bullshit), I don't mind the arranged marriage or Alice being 17.

  • June 23, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    And you know what?

    by kolchak

    Hook was good. There. I said it.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    When Alice left Wonderland...

    by MCVamp

    Were her guts backwards and her body chemistry reversed, causing horrible pains and eventual death? Alan Moore thought so...

  • June 23, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    About Alice, marriage and the whole 17 thing...

    by irishraidersfan

    You Yanks crack me up! "I don't mind the arranged marriage or Alice being 17" from kolchak, or "shes only 17!! what a slut! Inside her vage must be where wonderland is" from Cronkit. My understanding is, this is set close to the time of the original novel (late 19th century) so THIS WAS COMMONPLACE BACK THEN. It's entirely in keeping with the times!!! Jesus, read a book somebody, please!

  • June 23, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Script? Burton?

    by Aquatarkusman

    What does it matter?

  • June 23, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Never trust a guy, who says that "Charlie and the chocolate fact

    by Long_Jay_Bee

    That's what my granma used to say. Seems this one can be pretty cool.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    irishraidersfan

    by kolchak

    Hey moron, I was talking about the fact that it's a departure from the original story.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Im not a yank im jamaican

    by Cronkit

    thanks though.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Shrooms anyone

    by Cronkit

    Thats all I can think about when it comes to this story.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    This script leaked months ago.

    by TheFreeScreeningWhore

    Not terribly difficult to find for those that want it.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    I smell Labyrinth

    by Xian042

    watch for a nod to the acid apple scene.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton sadly brings nothing to anything

    by Bobman46

    Just about all his movies are lacking. The recent ones are just awful when you think about it....go on.....have a think.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    You remind me of the babe

    by kolchak

    What babe?<p> the babe with the power. <p> What power? <p> Power of voodoo <p> Who do? <p> You do!<p> Do what? <p> Remind me of the babe!

  • June 23, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Ed McMahon has died.

    by The_Red_Knight

    Totally unrelated to anything, and I don't know if anyone cares but there you go. He died this morning.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton knows how to turn on a fog machine

    by Spandau Belly

    He gets good production design, but makes bad movies.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Transformers 2 level EPIC FAIL

    by theplant

    NUFF SAID

  • June 23, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Burton

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It's been downhill since Mars Attacks! Beetlejuice is still his best film.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    A big FUCK YOU to the Burton haters!

    by gruntybear

    Because after the ridiculously over-the-top clusterfuck of a HateBack about the "Alice" project yesterday, it really, truly needs to be said. You people are the death of creativity.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    the silent film above...

    by Voyageur

    ...will be better. <p> Seriously.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    But really, this is Hook right?

    by LeCoug

    Like I know it was said before, but seriously. Went there as a child: Pan/Alice Doesn't remember their time there: Pan/Alice Are brought back by small iconic Disney character: Pan/Alice British Accents: Pan/Alice I'm still going to see it of course. Who wouldn't want to see Hook directed by Tim Burton?

  • June 23, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Uh Oh... another "re-imagining"

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    This could either turn out really great or really terrible. On one hand we've all seen the March Hare/Mad Hatter/sleeping doormouse in the tea scene ad nauseum so what were we really going to get out of Depp screaming, "No room! No room!" that we haven't seen a thousand times before? On the otherhand, this premise sort of gives Burton an opportunity to lose himself within his own vision again at the expense characters you care about and a story that is involving a la CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    I Only Hate...

    by Aquatarkusman

    ... people who overuse the word haters to describe people who are restating popular critical consensus on the dreck Burton's produced in the last decade. And I do love being lectured on the death of creativity from somebody defending a director who seems to be trafficking in remakes about half to two-thirds of the time.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Who gives a shit?

    by ColonelFatheart

    Burton's become a parody of himself. He's just making Hot Topic porn these days.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Hopefully EA will sue.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    More and more of this garbage sounds as if it was directly stolen from McGee's Alice and changed for the worse, slime bag primadonna Depp being the worst part of it all.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    RE: Ed McMahon has died.

    by Sw0rdfish

    Script-Girl had that WEEKS ago!

  • June 23, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    "There’s also an odd love story that develops between Alice and

    by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    uh oh.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Let me guess: the rich suitor is...

    by christian66

    ...a terrible controlling effete snob. I'm not sure we've ever seen that before...I love these pointless Hollywood backstories.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Didn't FOX end up with the rights

    by kolchak

    To McGee's "Alice"? With Sarah Michelle Gellar attached to star? <p> Because you know if Fox made it they'd fuck it up.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    re-imagining shit

    by Nizzuts

    What is with all of the re-imagining shit. Take a perfectly good story like Alice in Wonderland and then try to change it into some artsy, modern bullshit. I think this is going to suck.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    by Voyageur

    Two questions straight away: Who is Linda Woolverton? And, what credentials does she have for handling Lewis Carroll's genius? That should give everyone pause. <p> Now... Onto the review: <p> The White Rabbit returns to tell Alice of an omen that she is to slay the Jabberwocky??? Seriously? There were no 'omens' in the Alice stories. Secondly, 'slay' the Jabberwocky? If memory serves me, the Jabberwocky was slain by the boy with the vorpal sword. Does the Jabberwocky have regenerative powers that we don't know of? Not to mention that the Jabberwocky is a non-sense poem told by Humpty Dumpty to Alice. I guess in Woolverton's vision of Alice none of this matters, and it's reasonable to have the Jobberwocky guarding the Red Queen. <p> How does Alice have no knowledge of past events? What sort of plot device has Woolverton concocted to explain this? <p> Alice is trying to find the vorpal sword to slay the Jabberwocky? Excuse me while I chuckle to myself. <p> Apparently, in this script, Alice falls in love with the Mad Hatter. I guess once you've made decisions like the ones above, then anything truly is possible.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    I want to see the movie...I don't want to read this.

    by FlickaPoo

  • June 23, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Hate mail is the fule for creativity

    by Cronkit

    If we said every film was great, there would be no real push to do any better.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Fuel asshole

    by Cronkit

  • June 23, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    addenda

    by Voyageur

    And this inclusion of an omen sounds a bit like Narnia to me, but Alice is in Wonderland, not Narnia, folks. <p> And back to the Jabberwocky... the Jabberwocky is a f*ckin' non-sense poem! (My favorite, of course, as I've been known to recite it aloud while drunk.) The point of the Jabberwocky is lost without the poem. Rendered meaningless. It's built-in satire evaporates. <p> And more on Alice's lack of remembrance of past events... I've been doing a little thinking about what sort of plot device Burton and Woolverton concocted to explain this? And, why? I suppose because they wanted a full grown human being to play Alice. And if Alice is now an adult, and meeting the same characters she already met years ago, there would be too much familiarity--not enough wonderment. Solution? Make her forget. (Sounds like Hook to me, but it also sounds like a load of bullsh*t.)

  • June 23, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Two separate entities

    by kolchak

    There's the books and the films. I think you just have to appreciate each for what it is. <p> I love the story of Beowulf, but I didn't mind the major story changes there.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    What I mean is

    by kolchak

    There are many cases when a book isn't going to translate onto film very well. In those cases, it's necessary to make changes. IE: what if Spielberg went with the book ending in JAWS? It would have been a shit sandwich. <p> In the case of Alice, I think the straightforward story has been done to death. So I'll readily admit that this may be a great way to introduce a new generation to the old tales like Hook did the the Peter Pan stories. <p> Still, this might just be terrible.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Perhaps, Kolchak...

    by Voyageur

    A new generation could find the book in the library or at your local bookstore (or B&N), and enjoy Carroll and Tenniel that way...

  • June 23, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Voyageur

    by kolchak

    That's what SHOULD happen. But let's be honest: it doesn't happen that much anymore. <p> But it should be noted that this isn't the same story. So in that sense it's much more of a homage to whimsy, like the aforementioned HOOK. Whether it will be a good one or a bad one I can't say. <p> I suppose I give Burton such a wide berth because I hold such nostalgia in his earlier films.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    He's got hair down to there...Teen Wolf, Teen Wolf

    by terry1978

    You grew up in the early 80s, you know the lyrics to this classic cartoon. Don't hate.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    People still read...

    by Voyageur

  • June 23, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    The books

    by Voyageur

    Kolchak... People still read the Alice books, just not as many. I work at an indie bookstore here in Los Angeles, and people still buy the book. <p> But I agree that things have changed. Teachers and parents emphasize other books these days, and ignore the classics. <p> And what ends up happening is they're going to have Tim Burton imagining Wonderland for them, instead of imagining it themselves.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    I agree with the title

    by kolchak

    I assumed that was a working title to be changed later. But if they're actually releasing it as "Alice in Wonderland" that's not right.<p> I suppose they were in a bit of a bind because "Alice" is taken and "Return to wonderland" would give off a "Return to Oz" vibe. <p> If it's not adapting the book it shouldn't share the title.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Voyageur

    by kolchak

    I think you've hit on one of the largest problems in adapting literature to the screen. <p> It used to be that "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" or "Frankenstein" could be filmed and everyone would know the source material. <p> Today, kids are becoming more and more largely disinterested in reading as a whole.<p> I empathize with you wanting kids to experience the stories for themselves. Books are absolutely a magical medium. And I find myself more and more telling people "why don't you read the book" when horrible film adaptations are mentioned.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Facetiousness?

    by kolchak

    Sorry. Sometimes it's hard to tell with writing. But if not, it was written by Ian Fleming (in his pre-James Bond days) for his kids.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Touche.

    by Voyageur

    I'm just concerned with the children's potential for imagining... Maybe I'm a bit of a Luddite at heart. <p> I'm starting to believe what Tarkovsky said about filmmaking (I'm paraphrasing): it needs to be its own medium, and separated from the tendency to tie it to literature and theater. <p> But, Tarkovsky did adapt Solaris to great effect. Though he made it his. Which I suppose is what Burton is doing with Alice. Whereas the former interests me, the latter really doesn't.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    That old Alice movie looks like something from THE RING

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

  • June 23, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Subtitles_Off

    by kolchak

    Indubitably. Although, I can't bring myself to sneer at this just yet. I'm disheartened by the casting but that production art blows my mind. <p> As for Frankenstein, I'm confident Shelley's work stands on its own for most people separate from images of Karloff. At least I'd like to think so. After all, it's the original science fiction novel.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Nosferatu

    by kolchak

    is becoming more widely known in pop culture. At least some of the iconic images of Schreck. <p> Vampyr hasn't reached that level yet. But the reaper ringing that bell still scares the shit out of me.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    That said,

    by kolchak

    If Burton screws this up, I'm officially done with him.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Argh!

    by The_Skook

    Here we go again... It's like: "I think what Lewis Carroll meant to say was..." They have to make her older because a child Alice won't appeal to the kind of market they want. They want to use the imagery from the original book so a feeble storyline about forgetting she's been there before as a child, and totally ignore any of the subtleties because they want the money shot and not the essence. This stinks of marketing pure and simple. Make the book(s)! guys, with all the wonder of special effects the world can now offer, not some bowdlerised egotistical extension of self. C'mon Tim I expect, nay, hope for better of you. Don't make this style over substance! And the adult Alice has already been done, very well! Kate Beckinsale did it in 'Through the Looking Glass' as an adult Alice.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Sleepy Hollow was

    by kolchak

    just meh. Chocolate Factory made me want to see both Depp and Burton kneed in the groin by Gene Wilder.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    People being excited for 'wild things'

    by kolchak

    Is like being excited for 'The cat in the hat'. It's just a bad idea to have high expectations for a 15 page children's book turned feature film. <p> But I hope I'm proven wrong.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    2 big pics

    by Wogga Wogga

    one of alice : http://tinyurl.com/burtonalice1 and one of the dums: http://tinyurl.com/burtonalice2

  • June 23, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    I can see that

    by kolchak

    As long as they're able to turn it into something meaningful. And the trailer did look touching.

  • June 23, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    I have no problem with her not remembering...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... after all, the original story hinted that it may have just been a dream, and I don't remember too many of my dreams. I do think it would be more believable if bits of her memory return to her over the course of the movie.

  • June 23, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    I'm so sick of Tim Burton's brand of "Whimsy" (TM)

    by Knuckleface

    I loved Tim Burton's stuff when I was 14... in 1993. But he just keeps dishing out the same plate of chum, and it's obvious he's become a brand rather than an artist. "Ed Wood" suggested his potential as a dramatic director. Wasted ever since.

  • June 23, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Burton just has a niche

    by kolchak

    Notice that nobody shits on George Lucas for doing 6 science fiction movies, but Tim Burton does a wide variety of films with a darker tone and gets pummeled. <p> Every director has a preferred style. I don't fault Tarantino for including feet in every movie either.

  • June 23, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Silent movies have that disturbing quality to them.

    by Orionsangels

    Don't they?

  • June 23, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Will American Mcgee's Alice be filing a Lawsuit?

    by Orionsangels

  • June 23, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Aaaaarrrrrgggghhh!

    by wridget

    So, I'm mostly a big Tim Burton fan (planet of the apes and chocolate factory sucked, but most everything else I like), but this sounds like a REALLY bad idea. What frustrates me is how most people try to force Carroll's story into standard "hero's quest" parameters when the whole reason children and adults love it is because it DOESN'T FIT. The Red Queen is not evil. At most, she's a bit of a prig. The White Queen is not good. She's a distracted old biddy. The Jabberwock is just a fucking poem! This sort of thing drives me mad. What made me love the book as a child was the glorious, random, non-moralistic nature of it that you still can't find in any other kids' book. Mess with that, and you're undercutting the whole intent of the story.

  • June 23, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Why say its SPOILERISH underneath?

    by OGoncho

    Bit pointless.

  • June 23, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Show me the Cheshire Cat, dammit

    by spix14

    When are they going to show what he looks like? Stephen Fry is perfect voice casting if they can just get the look down right.

  • June 23, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Tim Curry as Chesire cat

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • June 23, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Mars Attacks!

    by mitortilla

    Best Burton film after Ed Wood.

  • June 24, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Lucas gets most of his shit

    by kolchak

    for the prequel trilogy and his ruining Indy IV. Burton is a better writer AND director.

  • June 24, 2009, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Where's the respect due Ed McMahon?

    by leftofcentristdotcom

    Just askin'

  • June 24, 2009, 3:47 a.m. CST

    @wridget

    by Dingbatty

    I have to agree.

  • June 24, 2009, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Mars Attacks sucked ass

    by lockesbrokenleg

    That movie confirmed to me that Burton was once good, but was now shit.

  • June 24, 2009, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Was done before by DREAMCHILD...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...1985 movie about an adult Alice revisiting the novel in her old age.

  • June 24, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Mars Attacks

    by kolchak

    was genius.

  • June 24, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Bunch of cool photos .... (link)

    by ReportAbuse

    http://tinyurl. com/ lu77yo