Movie News

Johnny Depp Sez PIRATES 4 To Be A Beckett Play Featuring Captain Jack Sparrow As A Geisha!

Published at: June 23, 2009, 1:22 a.m. CST by mrbeaks

Beaks here...

While the above headline is technically true, there's a distinct possibility Johnny Depp was joking when he floated the above scenario for the in-development fourth installment in the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN series. I'll let you be the judge. This is all coming out of Monday's press junket for PUBLIC ENEMIES, where Depp spoke to the online rabble about his [redacted] performance as John Dillinger and, well, damn near everything else that's going on for him professionally. Depp's a busy boy, so let's take this one film at a time.
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 4
Though some may feel this is one... or two... or possibly three times too many to the well, Depp is unashamed. "Call me a glutton," he joked. Here's the deal: Depp is more than willing to return as Captain Jack Sparrow in a fourth PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN provided there's a coherent screenplay. And while he didn't exactly run down the scripts of the previous films, he did suggest that they could use some tightening. "It got a little confusing here and there," said Depp. "I think, for me, because I love the character so much and... people seem to like it, that if there's an opportunity to try again, it's like going up to bat. You want to get back out there and try and try and try and see what you can do again. I enjoyed playing Captain Jack very much." So how would Depp like to do PIRATES 4? "At this point, what I'm trying to do is trying to make it like a Beckett play," he said. SPARROW'S LAST TAPE, huh? And how might Disney feel about that? "It could be anything at this point," offered Depp. "Jack Sparrow could be in some kind of geisha clothing. I don't know. We could explore a lot of possibilities." Why do I think this is the last we'll hear of these particular possibilities?
THE MAN WHO KILLED DON QUIXOTE
Maybe. Maybe not. Here are his comments in full: "[Gilliam and I] have talked about it. But to be honest, the thing about Terry... I love Terry, and I'd do anything the guy wants to do. But with QUIXOTE... my dance card is pretty nutty for the next couple of years. So I'd hate to put him in a position - or ask to be in a position - where he'd have to wait for me. That would be wrong. But also... I feel like we went there and tried something, and, whatever it was - the elements and all the things that got up underneath us - were there and happened and were documented well in that film LOST IN LA MANCHA. So I don't know if it's right for me to go back there. I don't know if it's right for Terry to, but if he wants to..."
THE LONE RANGER
Depp says they're still in the "super-beginning stages" of developing this Jerry Bruckheimer-produced film. "I feel like I have some good ideas for the character that are interesting, that I don't think have been done all that much before." So it's THE LONE RANGER by way of Ionesco then.
ALICE IN WONDERLAND
Sounds like Depp had a blast with The Mad Hatter. "Doing something like John Dillinger, a performance where it's so restrained because of the responsibility you have to that guy and his memory. The Mad Hatter was like being fired out of a cannon. The Hatter was great fun. And, again, it's one of those things where you're amazed you weren't fired." Perhaps this was a reference to Depp nearly getting axed during the shooting of PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL.

I'll have more from Depp next week out front of PUBLIC ENEMIES July 1st release.

Readers Talkback

comments powered by Disqus
    + Expand All
  • June 23, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    More geisha

    by imagin78

    Public Enemies is the only bright spot this summer.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    2nd

    by Droogie Alex

  • June 23, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    I was first.

    by imagin78

    Now I can go to sleep knowing that I have meaning and purpose in this life.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    FIRST?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Ah Damn, why do I bother anymore?

  • June 23, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Jack Sparrow meets Zatoichi

    by CENOBITE

    "I'd buy that for a dollar!"

  • June 23, 2009, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Redacted="brilliant" performance or "shitty" performance?

    by Executor

    What say you? <p> Thumbs up? Down? Looking forward to it so hopefully positive...

  • June 23, 2009, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Stop with the Pirates!!!!

    by Gabba-UK

    2 and 3 were disasters on a Reloaded/Revalations scale. They were BAD movies. You might have had a blast making them Johnny, the same could not be said for those who had to sit through them. Bad, bad movies.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:33 a.m. CST

    NO PLEASE GOD NOOOOO

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The third one ended well enough But why was that movie so damn long?

  • June 23, 2009, 1:35 a.m. CST

    trend of complex stories in summer movies lately?

    by BMacSmith

    not complex as in 'layered' or 'good', complex as in needlessly complicated. Pirates 2 and especially 3 suffered from it, Star Trek's weakest point was the story, and Transformers 2 is both stupid and complicated, magnifiying its stupidity even more. I'm not saying the story cant have a lot going on, but why add plot threads arbitrarily? Pirates 1 and Iron Man, for example, were simple movies and they worked perfectly.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    RedHorseVector

    by Daremo

    Nothing on this site brings me more joy, when a "First" douche bag like yourself FAILS. So, your clever and oh so proud remark of "fuckers" can now be changed to "I'm a loser." Enjoy your pathetic night. You've earned it.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:37 a.m. CST

    More Pirates is cool...

    by GunterMonkey

    Just give the man a decent script...All 3 Pirate movies were fun, escapist movie magic. Brought back memories of the Star Wars days...

  • June 23, 2009, 1:37 a.m. CST

    id like another Pirates if its smaller

    by BMacSmith

    3 was just too big and stupid. something like the first one could be cool, but i hate sequels so i really dont give a shit.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    The sequels, especially the second, were great

    by GunterMonkey

    Yes, too long, but brought back the adventure/humor of early 80s flicks...

  • June 23, 2009, 1:42 a.m. CST

    The movies don't have to be soo damn long

    by lockesbrokenleg

    And get rid of the voodoo lady. She was terrible. God. What a waste. At least the Pirates movies had better acting than the Star Wars prequels.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    LOVED Dead Man's Chest...

    by TheMarineBiologist

    It was a great swashbuckle-y treasure hunting flick...<p> At World's End, on the other end, was quite... well... terrible.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    I love Dead Man's Chest

    by D.Vader

    Love the Kracken scenes. <p> And what's wrong with summer movies at least attempting to be a bit complex? I'm with the writers who said they hoped the audience was smart enough to follow the action and that they didn't want to overtly spell everything out for everyone. I like that each character in the films has a motivation and a reason for being. The films may have been a bit large because of that, but there's nothing wrong with it in theory.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    i liked the first 2 and the end of 3

    by BMacSmith

    the other two hours of part 3 were a mess. yeah, the voodoo woman was useless.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Great character / actor, wasted potential.

    by Dingbatty

    Actual piracy would be cool. Simpler story, tighter plot like the first movie, I agree. Keep the fantasy, set it in The Golden Age of Piracy in the 1600s. Perhaps he gets sent back via the Bermuda Triangle.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:50 a.m. CST

    I agree, D. Vader

    by GunterMonkey

    Dead Man's Chest was a great fantasy/adventure film...the sequel was even better than the original...

  • June 23, 2009, 1:52 a.m. CST

    definitely liked pirates more than the matrix

    by Willy_Idle

    although a fourth might be a bit much

  • June 23, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Depp = God

    by billyhitchcock

    I would watch him read the phone book. Roll on 2012 or whenever it is Pirates 4 comes out.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:54 a.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by BMacSmith

    i dont care if the plots are complicated if they need to be. Simple stories can work just as well, and often better. Pirates 3 was the perfect example. the stupid voodoo god woman, all the crap with the asian pirates and the pirate captains, the constant double-crossing etc. how much of that movie was confusing just to be confusing? none of it was central to the story. it was just fluff. <p>Pirates was a purely visceral experience, emphasing fun and adventure. hardly the place for Matrix type plots.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Good to see the Pirates love...

    by GunterMonkey

    I have a feeling these films will become the next generation's Star Wars, and 20 years from now they'll be arguing about the prequels to Pirates right here on AICN.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST

    what's the story about depp nearly being fired?

    by Ray Gamma

    i somehow missed that one. anyone?

  • June 23, 2009, 2 a.m. CST

    Yeah what's the story there?

    by DOGSOUP

    I'd like to know as well

  • June 23, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    PotC = Indiana Jones

    by RandySavage

    Both franchises revolve around an iconic, charismatic, ne'er-do-well adventurer set in a quasi-historic universe that features the fantastical. <p> In terms of quality, Raiders is on its own levels, but I put the Pirates films on the same scale as Indy II & III. <p> So I welcome a fourth PotC, just as I welcomed a fourth Indy. And I expect the pirates team will deliver a better film than Crystal Skull.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    plus

    by billyhitchcock

    why should blockbusters only be for stupid people? with pirates they've created a whole new genre. and they should make 20 more, if only for the amazing world and characters they've created.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:02 a.m. CST

    BMacSmith, you say "Matrix type plots"

    by D.Vader

    And yet I think the Matrix plots were more simplistic than Pirates. <p> Honestly, the point of all the complexity was to a. give every character motivation and reason for being and b. to show how everyone is a pirate in some way looking out for their own self interests.<p> I agree that it was a tad confusing the first time I saw it, but that's because I had expected everything to be cut and dry, good guy vs bad guy, etc. So when pple started double-crossing and playing others, I got confused because I didn't expect that level of complexity from this kind of fantasy/adventure film. It made things interesting bc you didn't know who you could trust or who was merely pretending to double-cross. It certainly made it a bit unpredictable, which is appreciated. Definitely didn't see that ending coming in pt III.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:02 a.m. CST

    There is no "next" Star Wars.

    by gotilk

    That film shocked people who watched it. Nothing shocks anymore. Novelty is near death. I could only see the arrival of hyper-real VR in actual 3d having the same kind of impact. (oddly, still quite a ways off) But a film? Or a film series? Not likely. We'll have great cinema, but I doubt anything will have that kind of impact. And no, eyeball fucking doesn't count.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Johnny Depp almost getting fired...

    by D.Vader

    Its an old story from the first one regarding Johnny's original take on the character and how far he wanted to go with it. At first he wanted Jack to have an entire set of gold teeth and a broken nose that was barely hanging on by some threadbare home remedy. <p> Bruckheimer told him to pull it back, but even in its current incarnation- a drunk, effeminate, slightly mad pirate- was a risk that Depp felt may not go over too well with those in charge.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Agreed Gunter

    by D.Vader

    I think Dead Man's Chest is the best of the series. Bill Nighy's performance as Davy Jones and the effects work that helped bring him to life is simply fantastic. A classic cinematic character.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Pirates 3 is almost a great movie

    by lockesbrokenleg

    But it is too long, and needlessly complicated. All those pirates didn't need to be brought together. Maybe one or two, but they didn't even use them in the final battle.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST

    ^About Depp nearly being fired...

    by RandySavage

    When the first dailys came in of Depp's slightly effeminate, wobbly take on Jack Sparrow, some execs (former WDP head Nina Jacobson) freaked out and wanted him to play it straight. <P> Verbinski was content to let Depp act it the way he envisioned and Depp was unwilling to change his character (although I don't think he came very close to actually getting axed) In the end, Dick Cook, chairman of the motion picture unit, was shown footage and gave Depp's Sparrow the greenlight. <P> Had Depp not created the character he did, the film would not be nearly as memorable, may not have grossed nearly as much or spawned sequels. <P>Disney owes Depp a lot for that.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:09 a.m. CST

    well

    by BMacSmith

    i thought the first one already did a good job of showing pirates were shifty, i wasnt really suprised, just annoyed. 3 was just pointlessly complicated. it added a ton of characters i didnt care about, and then threw them away soon after. None of the God stuff was even talked about in the first 2, then it was just dumped on my lap (and didnt make much sense). I liked the end though, once it just settled on the main story.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Agreed, Randy

    by D.Vader

    While the movies are fun and entertaining, Depp made those films what they are.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST

    BMac, do you mean Calypso herself?

    by D.Vader

    Or the idea of heathen Gods? Because that idea was introduced in the first film; they were the ones that cursed the gold. Yeah, Calypso wasn't introduced as an idea until the 3rd, but I don't think that idea would have had any place in the 2nd film since it wouldn't have had any sort of resolution and would have remained some offhand remark the way I imagine it.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:15 a.m. CST

    The sequels just needed tightening

    by performingmonkey

    Chop 20 minutes of each (pretty easy thing to do seeing as there's what feels like a pointless 20 min interlude in each one) and you've got much better movies. Black Pearl was also slightly too long but that was acceptable because IMO it was so great. This 4th flick should obviously be more like Black Pearl but with new stuff (obviously), not much longer than 2 hours.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Part 3 really fucked up the Turner characters

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It was going good until Wil had to take over for Davey Jones, and Elizabeth had to wait for him. WTF was that shit? They got married, Nice ending, didn't have to fuck that one up. Also, they killed Norrington which was really shitty.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Lockesbrokenleg, you're nuts!

    by D.Vader

    That ending with the Turners was great! Wow, for once in a summer Hollywood blockbuster, the romantic couple doesn't get a truly happy ending. Will has a destiny no one saw coming, but its an important one. I'm glad it didn't end like the first one with them living happily ever after. Sacrifices were made. I dig it.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:30 a.m. CST

    "There is no "next" Star Wars."

    by RandySavage

    To Gotilk's point; having just watched the original Star Wars on DVD, those space battle model effects still hold up as well as the CGI FXs used today. <p> Now imagine going into the cinema in the late 1970s and seeing something that could have been transplanted from 2009... it's the very definition of mind-blowing. And no wonder people saw it in theater 100 times that summer. <P> Nothing close to being that revolutionary in cinema is on the horizon. We should be gawking at the recent 2012 clip of an aircraft carrier smashing the whitehouse, but VFX fatique has set in. <P> That said, Pirates has some great characters, a cool universe, but, yes, all 3 could use some tightening. <P> Bring on Sparrow, Barbossa, and keep it lean and mean.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:39 a.m. CST

    just dont bring back the Turners, please

    by BMacSmith

    their story is finished. They are just dead weight now.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:43 a.m. CST

    I don't know. I just don't like it.

    by lockesbrokenleg

    If you wanted to have a twist, then have them get married, then have one of them get killed, but that 10 years thing kinda came out of nowhere.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    The pirates sequels should have been stand alone stories

    by IndustryKiller!

    They should never have tried to bridge them into one film. Getting that needlessly ambitious was a death knell.

  • June 23, 2009, 3:23 a.m. CST

    I'm embarassed for everyone who watched and liked those movies

    by felwithe

  • June 23, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST

    WELL NOW CAPTAIN JACK WILL GET YA HIGH TONIGHT!

    by The Amazing G

    AND TAKE YA TO YOUR SPECIAL ISLAND!

  • June 23, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Thank god people who recognize 2 was the best

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    I thought I was alone there.

  • June 23, 2009, 3:50 a.m. CST

    anyway the POTC movies were fun...

    by The Amazing G

    sure the plot gets a little out there, but pound for pound they're allot better than most of the "Blockbusters" that have come out this decade

  • June 23, 2009, 4:08 a.m. CST

    STOP FUCKING AROUND, DEPP...

    by 11dayempire

    ...and do Don Quixote with Gilliam. The world does not need Pirates 4.

  • June 23, 2009, 4:22 a.m. CST

    I hate Dead Mans Chest

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Everyone raves about Nighy's performance, I just thought it was badly concieved and acted. They threw in ANOTHER character with too much screentime. Sequels should've been cut down by ninety minutes, and - if you had to - have had Davy Jones as a straight antagonist instead of 'tortured soul.'

  • June 23, 2009, 4:23 a.m. CST

    11dayempire

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Uh - Depp's visibility with Pirates et al is probably the ONLY thing that can get Don Quixote made. If he gets so big that they'll do whatever he wants, then he can choose that and get it properly financed.

  • June 23, 2009, 4:23 a.m. CST

    For me, as bad as Bayformers

    by Mr Gorilla

    OK - not quite as bad, the rampant sexism isn't there, nor is the pornographic attitude to violence. But in terms of bad, vapid plotting, feeble humour and so on, I thought the first film was a new low. (And people actually thought it was GOOD?) And what I hear about the other two has kept me well away. However, unlike Bayformers, these films seem to have plenty of admirers in these parts...

  • June 23, 2009, 4:28 a.m. CST

    POTC 3 = Epic fail

    by VoldemortWearsPrada

    Hollywood bloat at its worst - my partner was so incensed at being charged five bucks to rent this incoherent mess that he nearly put a fist throught the screen. It felt like they were literally making it up as they went along. Yo ho, yo ho, no more of this franchise for me!

  • June 23, 2009, 4:30 a.m. CST

    Public Enemies, 5-star EMPIRE review

    by yodalovesyou

    http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=136004

  • June 23, 2009, 4:34 a.m. CST

    At World's End

    by yodalovesyou

    Is bold and brave film making that has far more imagination, inventiveness and boldness that anything Christopher forkin' Nolan can come up with. From all the crazy shit in Davey Jones's Locker to the Maelstrom battle at the end, At World's End is a ballsy epic full of insane ideas and boundless imagination. If you found the plot too hard to follow, tough shit.

  • June 23, 2009, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Thank god for Michael Mann & Kathryn Bigelow

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The summer isn't a complete write-off after all.

  • June 23, 2009, 5:29 a.m. CST

    The one thing abut the pirates movies

    by emeraldboy

    was that they all outstanding production values. They were sumptious to look at. But they were carried by two of the most boring actors working in cinema today. Keira Knightely and Orlando Bloom who have all the acting ability and Charisma of mannequins. or dried paint. I saw jo wright's pride and prejuidce and remain unconvinced of So call superior directing talent. I just found the whole thing flat. He did what all brit filmakers do. give out about hollywood and then realise that is where it all happens. Has anyone heard anything about the soloist with downey jnr and Jamie Foxx. I saw the trailer and though it was very ordinary looking.

  • June 23, 2009, 6:09 a.m. CST

    yodalovesyou

    by Mr Gorilla

    there is difference between complex and incoherent. Something like HEAT is complex - loads of different storylines and ideas and characters. PIRATES 3 is incoherant - a bit like dog shit when the dog has been let loose in an Indian restaurant.

  • June 23, 2009, 6:26 a.m. CST

    POTC3= rape scene, sex on th beach

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    All in a Disney flick. I did like how it ended with Sparrow searching for Ponce De Leon's Fountain of Youth. That's part 4 right there. I think there will be at least three more pirate movies. They just make too much money for Disney/Depp for them both to say no. As for Depp wanting to play Sparrow as a Geisha, well he could just re-use his Mad Hatter make-up. And as for Lone Ranger wasn't it announced way back when that he was actually going to play Tonto and not the LR?

  • June 23, 2009, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by yodalovesyou

    You can't change my mind. My mind is unchangeable.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:10 a.m. CST

    I thought we are beyond pirates fad

    by Dingbatty

    anyway? Shouldn't we be on to ninja, now?

  • June 23, 2009, 7:11 a.m. CST

    As stoic as Depp is in real life, he gets the joke

    by terry1978

    He knows what the fan masses want and think, he's aware of how retarded he has to act on screen in certain roles, and yet still pulls it off. He's actually a pretty funny guy.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Can this next one be FUN?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    And not run as long as a fucking David Lean movie?

  • June 23, 2009, 7:44 a.m. CST

    It better be fucking long movie

    by Cronkit

    nasty, you have ADD. you should get that looked st FAG.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:46 a.m. CST

    The last Pirates movie just bored the hell out of me

    by stooopider

    Lots of screaming and posturing, some cool fx and a plot that made no sense. How can you fuck up Keith Richards dressed as a pirate??

  • June 23, 2009, 7:46 a.m. CST

    I

    by Thunderbolt Ross

  • June 23, 2009, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Ionesco

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    That's what I was trying to type. Anyway - Lone Ranger by way of ol' Eugene sounds like perhaps the worst movie ever - in a good way. Do it.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Plot of Pirates 4...

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    Captain Jack travels through time to the present day and takes on modern pirates in Somalia.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Ahhhhh

    by Semen Stains

    The remorse of the first poster who misses out and in doing so makes himself look the biggest twat ever.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Space pirate? Butt pirate?

    by Cronkit

    He could do them all. JD one of the greats. He really is.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:59 a.m. CST

    I LOVE the Pirate films

    by Logan_1973

    AT WORLD'S END will always rank in my to 10.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Im down for another Pirates as long as

    by hopeless

    There is no Wil Turner and his bitch!

  • June 23, 2009, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Depp = Buddha

    by jackknifed_juggernaut

    the man can do no wrong. and yes, Sweeney Todd was brilliant. bring on POTC4. bring on Alice in Wonderland.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:05 a.m. CST

    The "movie was too long" whining...

    by Logan_1973

    Thanks to the ultra-light attention span of the average movie goer, the age of the 2.5-3 hour films is dying fast. Look at some of the greats over years: GODFATHER, TITANIC, TEN COMMANDMENTS, LOTR...all epic stuff. It's so sad the the hi-speed downloading twitter generation can't hack it. They want the entire film in 80 minutes or it's hated. <p> That's why I give much respect to Verbinski and Bay. They're not afraid of cutting a "long" film.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Loved the first, enjoyed the second...

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    But AT World's End was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. They started shooting before the script was even finished and it shows. <P> The whole plot revolves around Will Turner and all the rest of them having to go rescue Jack from Davey Jone's locker because he is one of the pirate lords and they need him in order to unite all the pirate clans of the world against the evil East India Trading Company. Ok fine, except at the end of the movie all those other pirates just stand around and watch as the Black Pearl fights the Dutchman in a whirlpool. SO WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT? <P> Oh, and another thing that pissed me off was that there's only one action scene in the entire movie- the whirlpool fight at the end. Ok you've got the stuff in Shanghai at the start where everyone's running around like headless chickens but it's not exactly the Will/Jack sword fight from the start of COTBP or the mill wheel sequence from DMC is it? Seriously, can anybody name another action setpiece from that movie?

  • June 23, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Captain Jack Sparrow and the Pirates of the Caribbean!

    by dailysportspages

    Captain Jack Sparrow and the Pirates of the Caribbean! <br> <br> Hows that for a title? <br> Make the new fourth movie the potential starter to a brand new trilogy. <br> Get rid of the cast from the first 3 films, save the title character of course... and maybe Barbossa and some Black Pearl crew. <br> <br> The Plot <br> Jack rides out in his little boat heading to find the Fountain of Youth. <br> First he stops in New Orleans to get himself supplies... namely RUM. <br> But wait... who is there? None other than Hector Barbossa who insists on coming along. (insert some plot device to get them back together) <br> They set out following the directions of his magical compass... but it leads them straight to the Bermuda Triangle.<br> Thats because the only way to get to the Fountain of Youth is through the mystical energy of the triangle. <br> What the triangle actually does though is pull the Black Pearl into a vortex that sucks them into the ocean, only to deposit them right back where they started... except 100 years in the past! <br> Their ship destroyed, their crew mostly dead/missing, and stranded on a huge desert island on the OTHER side of the american continent. In the pacific ocean. <br> They are on the island of California. <br> And island inhabited by golden bears and black amazon women and their Queen Califia... who just happens to be a nymph.<br> And amazing adventures are had by all, of course. <br><br><br> Yes, this is sort of a like a sequel/prequel all rolled into one. <br> The next movie can have Sparrow continue his search for the Fountain of Youth, this time arriving in a new ship (or reconstituted black pearl) off the coasts of South America.<br> He is sent here by Queen Califia in order to find her long lost sister, the nymph Calypso who had gone in search of the city made of gold.<br> Jack must sail down the banks of the Amazon river in order to find himself with the young Calypso once again... or for the first time, depending on your POV. <br> She seduces him, but eventually gives him the final clue he needs in order to fulfill his quest. <br> He has a new bearing on his compass, northwest... leading directly back to the Caribbean.<br> <br> The third movie has Jack making his triumphant return to the Caribbean and making his way to the Fountain of Youth located in southern Florida.<br> Changing history along the way.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:18 a.m. CST

    black pearl was the only good pirates movie

    by hulkbuster

    nuff said

  • June 23, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Depp = The Lone Ranger?

    by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    Yes please!

  • June 23, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Yes. im talking about making them Jack centric.

    by dailysportspages

    And having new supporting characters that he picks up in his travels. <br> Like maybe his "sidekick" could be the Keith Richards character, but in his much much younger years. <br> Jacks father when the father was a young privateer slowly getting involved in piracy. <br> That whole angle of Jack mentoring his own father would be pretty neat. <br> And that would mean casting someone to play a young Richards... which is already what Depp is supposedly doing. So in essence you would have to cast a young Depp type.<br> Like Jack Huston or someone like that. <br> Yikes... imagine he meets the women that is to be his mom... but all he knows is that he finds her irresistiblly attractive. <br> Wait, i think i just described Back To The Future.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    The first POTC is fantastic, the other two...

    by Orbots Commander

    ...not so much. Parts 2 & 3 suffered from extreme bloat. Dead Man's Chest had some nice moments, but it could have lost 30-40 minutes and you wouldn't have missed it. At World's End is the worst of the three and is such a mess of a movie that it's barely watchable. <p> If they do a fourth, Bruckheimer should strive to keep the runtime at 90 minutes, akin to the old Errol Flynn swashbucklers that were only about that long and worked superbly.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    15 minutes into POTC 3...

    by Jared

    I was already looking at my watch. Unfortunately I had another 2.5 hours of incoherent mess to endure.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    by Orbots Commander

    No, from what I've read, Depp is Tonto, but obviously it's not a supporting part. It'll be a team-up movie (think: Rush Hour as a western).

  • June 23, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    BMacSmith:

    by Sith Witch

    The Turners aren't gone! Watch the clip after the credits of the 3rd film.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    The first Pirates film was perfect summer entertainment.

    by rbatty024

    Too bad they dropped the ball with the second two films. It was like The Matrix Trilogy all over again.

  • June 23, 2009, 9 a.m. CST

    Orbots Commander

    by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS

    Ah ok. Depp probably would make a better Tonto. I grew up loving The Lone Ranger, so this has me way more excited than a 4th Pirates.

  • June 23, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Re-watched Pirates 3 recently

    by sapno_krei

    There are so many good bits that movie. The action is awesome, the effects flawless. All the characters have their story arcs resolved in a pretty satisfying way. I even liked the return of those comic relief soldiers / guards. But jeez, did the movie have to be 3 frickin' hours long? Someone needs to Phantom Edit that thing into something watchable in one sitting.

  • June 23, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Pirates 3 Phantom

    by Orbots Commander

  • June 23, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Pirates 3 Phantom Edit.

    by Orbots Commander

    (Stupid fingers, damn no 'Edit' button) Pirates 3 could be cut way down; there's probably a really good 80 minute movie lost in that 3hr. length.

  • June 23, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    ALLAH APPROVES OF JOHNNY

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    My fatwas are favorable on his choices of film.

  • June 23, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    RUDY YOUNGBLOOD *IS* TONTO

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    And get Q'Orianka Kilcher in this too.

  • June 23, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    depp is awesome

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    but i agree, those last 2 pirate films were fucking odd.I DIDNT SEE THE POINT OF ALOT OF (OTHER THAN BEING designed as entertianment for the 5-10 year old crowd)..like when there are multiple johnnies.

  • June 23, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Pirates 4 would be an obscene payday

    by Rupee88

    that's the only reason he would consider it..he could probably buy a few more islands. Love JD.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    It's kind of odd that Depp is a huge star now.

    by Orbots Commander

    The guy is a great actor, but he is essentially a character actor in a leading man's body. Before the first POTC he was making good movies that were cult favorites, like BLOW, and middling suspense thrillers that wound up in DVD bargain bins. All of a sudden, after PIRATES he's an A-list star. <p> It's weird sometimes who breaks out and becomes a huge star and who doesn't.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    what about Rum Diary???

    by 8footTallGopher

    gonzo forever....

  • June 23, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    RKDN

    by Orbots Commander

    Those weren't huge box office. They were cult hits. You're telling me that Depp was earning $20 Million-$30 Million a piece for Cry Baby, Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood? <p> Now, they're all great movies. I'm not denying that. But after POTC he became an A-list, Studio Tentpole Summer Movie Mega-star.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    DEPP ENJOYS 100% APPROVAL RATING FROM TALKBACK COMMUNITY

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    As I do.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Depp needs to work with Spielberg.

    by Orbots Commander

    That would be an interesting as hell team-up: Johnny Depp in a Spielberg-directed movie.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Less wacky CGI monsters

    by Darth Busey

    more raping and pillaging.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    WHAT ABOUT 21 JUMP STREET THE MOTION PICTURE?

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Dustin Nguyen and Holly Robinson are famished!

  • June 23, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    i'd love to see Depp in a non-Batman related

    by jackknifed_juggernaut

    Nolan film. Bale himself would be forced to bow before the resultant awesomeness... as would we all.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    BALE IS THE MOST HUMBLE

    by AyatollahSexyBack

    of all deities. He acknowledges Depp's greatness.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    and Ayatollah, what about Dom DeLeuise's kid?

    by jackknifed_juggernaut

    if he isn't dead like his pops (he may be... haven't seen his ass in anything since Jump Street), i'm sure he wouldn't turn the gig down.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Would love to see Capt Jack as an Mean Old Pirate

    by ThePilgrim

    He was after forever life right... Well maybe he found it. And maybe he's old and mean. It's liek Arnies Conan. You want to see the wise old king version of that character. I say you take it out of the timeline and you bring Capt Jack and Barbo to mordern times somehow. Barbo is youthful now, and Jack is old and frail. You creatives can figure out a way. I wish they'd make 3 more of these films. I love em.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    We already had another Star Wars Trilogy

    by zooch

    It wasn't Pirates...it was Hobbits.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Oh snap, I think I understand what JD is saying

    by ThePilgrim

    He's the last of his kind way into the future doing plays about the lifestyle. Literally becoming the Disney theme park on stage. There be no more pirates, but wait what's this... Someone else found the Serum as well, of course something kept them occupied or trapped or locked away for all this time, but they managed a way out some hundred odd years later, and they see a weaker world to ripe for the taking, and Jack must pay because he was probably behind it. what would be enven funnier. Walter E. Disney wants to rework the play into a ride at Disneyland. Not knowing that the stories are all based on facts.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Pirates 3 = not that complicated

    by Muki

    For all the talk about Pirates 3 being overly complicated, I watched it with my 6 year old nephew and he knew EXACTLY what was going on. He could name all the characters, all the ships...everything. His mother on the other hand was totally clueless and even I struggle to remember which one's Regetti and which one's Pintel. Couldn't help but think of myself at that age when I watched Star Wars for the first time. Personally I hate sequels but I would absolutley love to see Depp playing Jack Sparrow again.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Now Johnny Depp

    by HapaPapa72

    ...is the closest thing to a hetero-man-crush that I have, but Captain Jack again? Meh...maybe it's just the movies themselves...after a (short)while, all the battles between ships looked the same, I didn't care about any of the characters, etc. Alice in Wonderland looks promising, though. A Bruckheimer Lone Ranger?!? Yikes. Oh yeah, and as much as I admire Johnny's acting over the years, if I have to hear about one more character he plays as being "the rock star of his time" (pirates, Dillinger, etc.) I may throw up a little. But kudos for ditching the Bali Shag habit! Never thought I'd see the day...

  • June 23, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    PIRATES should be shown in the DMV lobby.

    by uberman

    Its that boring. Overblown. Stagnant. Disposable. I cant get into these movies-they're just too dull DESPITE some great creature work i.e. octopus face and crew. I'd rather watch paint dry.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    P4 should just have Keira Knightley

    by chromedome

    no one else needed

  • June 23, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    "think: Rush Hour as a western"

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    So Shanghai Noon then?

  • June 23, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    How can you not like this guy as an artist

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • June 23, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Depp should do an Ed Wood sequel

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Have it take place in the 1970's during the dark days leading up to his death. Directed by Gus Van Sant.

  • June 23, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Pirates 4 should be all about the dice game

    by RobertBaron

    I still can't figure out that game from Dead Man's Chest (iirc). Anyway, fuck me, I like the PotC movies. I'd be for another one. They should definitely drop the Turner character and focus more on Jack and maybe make the next rely less on the supernatural stuff which kind of got carried away as the sequels progressed.

  • June 23, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Pirates 2 is the best one

    by Tall_Boy66

    It's just an amazing set piece after an amazing set piece. Very ESB in it's plot structure with the characters split up. Then there was Pirates 3 and, uh, yeah. Well, it had it's moments, but it wasn't the bug-shit crazy fun like the 2nd one.

  • June 23, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Johnny, just what the hell was going on in PotC?

    by #1 Zero

    The scripts need tightening? No. When I went into Pirates two I hadn't seen the first one in the four years since it had been out but it was absolutely crucial you remembered plot points and characters from it. Also, another possible reason Depp wants to do them is because I think the first one or two funded the private island he owns so maybe he needs another one.

  • June 23, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    his [redacted] performance as John Dillinger

    by GQtaste

    What the fuck does that mean? Redacted? Are you saying they held back on his performance? That it was lacking? Which is it?

  • June 23, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST

    GQtaste

    by TedKordLives

    Yeah, I was wondering about that too. Did AICN just censor ITSELF? Because that'd just be too weird if they did.

  • June 23, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    redacted probably equals an embargo on reviews

    by RobertBaron

    And AICN are afraid if they say anything about anything about Public Enemies it will be a violation of the embargo. <p> Remember when AICN use to not give a shit about the studios?

  • June 23, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    POTC 4: CAPTAIN JACK IN SPACE!!

    by thelordofhell

    Jack Sparrow, thanks to a freak accident, goes into suspended animation and wakes up in the 30th century and finds that Earth has been declared the Carribean of the Galaxy and only he can save the Universe from certain doom!!

  • June 23, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    THE VOODO LADY SUCKED ASS!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I COULD NOT understand a word she said. A PISS POOR ACTRESS!!!

  • June 23, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Just do one at a time.

    by Jaka

    Weren't large portions of films 2 and 3 in production at the same time? That rarely works, with LOTR being the only example of greatness (imo) that comes to mind. BTTF 2 and 3 and Pirates 2 and 3 suffered from this shooting style/schedule. Again, just my opinion. But in most cases, as difficult as it is to make a film of that size, one would think making one at a time would be the best course to take (.... course, get it, course? ha!). Anyway, I'm excited for another try as the last one really is my least favorite of the three we have so far. Didn't really love the end of two, either. Felt too convenient for the director/producers on their way to the next film.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    What!!!

    by DarthBodie

    "Perhaps this was a reference to Depp nearly getting axed during the shooting of PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL." How can Depp be fired from anything??? That's just bollocks to even suggest it!!

  • June 23, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Redacted..

    by emeraldboy

    is when politicians dont want you to read something whihc will make them look bad. like MPs expenses or a report into the suicide of an entire family. that last bit refers to a report into what lead to the deaths of a family in ireland. The mum and dad killed thier children and then themselves. all of the recommendations were redacted as were segments of the report. or the NEw british iraq inquiry. Lord mandy will make sure that his old boss tony Blair gets that reported redacted.

  • June 23, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    DarthBodie

    by Jaka

    I believe that "the money" on the film (aka Disney) thought his performance was too over the top, or strange, or whatever. I have a vague recollection of that taking place. I hope all those people have been fired 12 times. lol

  • June 23, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    his [redacted] performance

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    shitacular?<p><p> embiggened??<p><p>Bueller???

  • June 23, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Never saw Pirates 2 or 3

    by SenatorJeffersonSmith

    Probably won't see the 4th, but in my mind, as an actor, Depp can do no wrong. The movies might be shit, like Pirates, or Burtons Alice, but Depps the man.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST

    I *love* a good long movie

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Benjamin Button, Lust, Caution, Kill Bill (both volumes as one big movie), The Dark Knight...there are plenty of long-ass movies I adore. But the POTC movies are JUST TOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG. Honestly, when you can hack a FULL HOUR out of a movie's running time and not effect the overal narrative structure, there's something wrong there. It's the Super-Size Me approach to filmmaking that Bigger = Better that's killing blockbuster filmmaking. Bigger explosions, dumber one-liners, and bloated running times by spoiled directors who parlay their "clout" into conning studios to not cut a frame of their movies. Even the first POTC movie would have played better at 110 minutes than 145, and the sequels were just MADDENINGLY overlong and bloated and formless, like Verbinski and company just stuck their rough cuts on the screen instead of "killing their babies" and whittling them down to a managable length. It's a PIRATE MOVIE AIMED AT KIDS, and what kid wants to be stuck in a movie theater for three fucking hours? Would The Lion King have made more money if it were twice as long?

  • June 23, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Pretty sure that

    by kolchak

    sequence with Depp running around on the wheel in Pirates 2 went on for 25 minutes. That's what it felt like. <p> Hire a fucking editor, Gore.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Nasty and kolchak

    by Jaka

    I COMPLETELY agree, and I too love a good long film. I'll take it a step further and say that a lot of the scenes I really loved were too SHORT. Especially in the third film, which was WAAAAAAAY too long. Fours hours total, maybe four hours and thirty minutes, for films two and three would have been great.

  • June 24, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Pirates was a great trilogy

    by Adelai Niska

    Too bad the third was needlessly complex, with characters having to repeatly explain each other's motivations TO EACH OTHER. And they killed the Kraken offscreen. Lame. But otherwise a great movie and a great trilogy. If any movie has Sparrow and that awesome score then I will pay to see it.

  • June 24, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Bruckheimer is doing a lone ranger movie?

    by Xiphos_2

    Fuck Yeah!

  • June 24, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST

    What happened to the Nolan Bushnell

    by Dingbatty

    Atari biopic?

  • June 24, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    The Rise of WBS Chatrooms.

    by Dingbatty

    These people don't know the history of the web.

  • June 24, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Length/complication

    by WT

    A film should work however long it is- Men In Black is fantastic at 90 mins, Lawrence of Arabia is perfect at three hours. The problem with POTC's sequels is they tried to add too much, too many twists, too many characters. Believe it or not, less can be more sometimes. Also Russell Brand in POTC4. You know you want him messing about with Depp, even if you won't admit it.

  • June 24, 2009, noon CST

    Depps a really cool guy....

    by TheWaqman

    and lets not forget that he's quite the talented actor. Much more talented than most out there at the moment.

  • June 24, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Ewan McGregor was the only one who gave a shit...

    by TheWaqman

    in the Shitty Star Wars prequels. That guy is such an underrated actor, I have yet to see him give a bad performance. Which is amazing because he was in the Star Wars prequels!

  • June 24, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Ewan and Ian McDiarmid

    by HapaPapa72