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Holy Jesus! Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND is going to scare the crap out of women, children, men and animal alike!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Yes, Alice in Wonderland is an inherently creepy story. The TV movie from the '70s or '80s scared the shit out of me. The Disney cartoon isn't as scary as seeing Lewis Carroll's nightmare creations running around as real creatures, but it's trippy itself. Tim Burton's vision of Carroll's story is going to be a walking, talking nightmare. USA Today has a story that features some interactive production art and the stills of three characters. I've included Depp's Mad Hatter below. Which, by the way, confirms we nabbed the first look at the man back in November of last year! Click through to see the production art as well as the Gacy-clown-make-up-ish Red Queen (Helena Bonham Carter) and Anne Hathaway as the White Queen.

Fucking scary, right? I saw some stuff at ShoWest as well and the Cheshire cat is also terrifying. Seriously. I love that, though. Burton seems to have the perfect style for this universe and I've been screaming for studios to start making scary children's films again (especially Disney, who have a history with them). This is gonna be a horror show, but that's a good thing. What do you folks think? -Quint Follow Me On Twitter

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  • June 21, 2009, 11:57 p.m. CST


    by The Amazing G

  • June 21, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST


    by Literarywanderer

    Great contribution Amazing G. Now tell us what you really think.

  • June 21, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST

    nice fucking model!

    by The Amazing G

    *HONK* *HONK*

  • June 22, 2009, midnight CST

    I'm sorry Literarywanderer

    by The Amazing G

    I just can't help myself, when I see the opportunity I just have to take it!

  • June 22, 2009, midnight CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

    Let me guess, more fucking dancing skeletons?

  • June 22, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    reminds me of...

    by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby

    TDK's Joker. I heard Depp was a fan of that performance like the rest of the world so I imagine he based it loosely.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    obligatory American McGee's Alice mention

    by The Amazing G

    it's too bad they never made a movie of that, but I hear they're making a sequel

  • June 22, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST


    by blakindigo

    Looks like he's bringing his 'A–Game'.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST


    by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby

    Lol. Words of truth.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST


    by Ryang

    Been waiting for some good news about this flick.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST


    by There Are Twelve Models

    That shit will haunt my dreams.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Looks like Elijah Wood

    by honestune

  • June 22, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    TIM BURTON Blows


    The only great movie he ever made was Ed Wood. Talk about overrated.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:06 a.m. CST

    I don't know

    by danthemagnum

    Looks kind of dumb to me. Just real, I don't know. Lame.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Hope it's better than Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

    by axel fff

    Ed Wood was a great movie. But I'm not holding my breath for this one.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST


    by The Amazing G

    anyone who denies the awesomeness of PeeWee's Big Adventure is a confirmed idiot

  • June 22, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Shoot it in the head, Alice!


    Fuck you, Zombie Mad Hatter!<p>BLAM!<P>BLAM!

  • June 22, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST

    anyway looks pretty damn cool

    by The Amazing G

    I like how it's twisted, but still pretty and not over the top scary like the American McGee version, of course that Red Queen is indeed scary as hell, yikes

  • June 22, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST

    And that Jessica Rabbit ad is hot shit...

    by axel fff

    Might we get a reboot of the Roger Rabbit series starting with a Jessica Rabbit porno?

  • June 22, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST

    I thought the same thing as honestune...

    by The Dum Guy

    It's like seeing a hobbit on acid (as opposed to normally seeing a hobbit).

  • June 22, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    His eyes are crooked.

    by dixieflyer

    I don't know if that is intentional but it is creepy.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Depp looks like the unwanted child of...

    by m_reporter

    ... the possessed Regan McNeil and Harry Knowles.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST

    hey axel fff

    by The Amazing G

    that Jessica Rabbit makes me funny in pants

  • June 22, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST


    by The Amazing G

  • June 22, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Pee-wee's Big Adventure...


    sucked. Scissorhands..sucked. Both of his Batmans...sucked. Mars Attacks...sucked. Sleepy Hollow...sucked. Planet of the Apes...beyond sucked. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory...sucked. Am I forgetting any other suckfests.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Not a big fan of Burton...

    by m_reporter

    ... but I have to say, this one looks amazing. Hope the story lives up to the production art/design and costumes and makeup.<p> Now if only it wasn't in 3d...

  • June 22, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST



  • June 22, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    ok then...

    by The Amazing G

    thanks for confirming it

  • June 22, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST


    by animas

    been 15+ years since Burton made a decent movie

  • June 22, 2009, 12:15 a.m. CST

    beat me to the maddona comparison

    by DanboJohnJ


  • June 22, 2009, 12:15 a.m. CST

    I am getting sick of Tim Burton

    by Nuking the Fridge

    I am just sick of his Danny Elfman musical score, his off beat bullshit, I mean I am just fucken fed up.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    they need to make another Tales From The Crypt movie

    by The Amazing G


  • June 22, 2009, 12:17 a.m. CST


    by ErnestBorgNine


  • June 22, 2009, 12:17 a.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy

    Your mom (I keed)

  • June 22, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    I remember hearing yeaaaaars ago...

    by The Amazing G

    that Burton was gonna make a Wizard Of Oz movie, think he'll do that next?

  • June 22, 2009, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Scary Cartoons

    by palpeedude

    I think the scariest dream I ever had was of this cartoon wolf (like the one in the Twilight Zone Movie) chasing me in a dark movie theater. It scared the crap out of me and that shot of Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum gives me that same sick feeling in my stomach. I am afraid to miss it. Tim better not let me down again. PLEASE!!!!

  • June 22, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Tales From The Crypt Movie?

    by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby

    Fuck's that gotta do with Burton? Well, yes, that sounds like an awesome movie but what brought that out?

  • June 22, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    re: Depp's crooked eyes

    by The Amazing G

    good Johnny Depp, you look pretty cool

  • June 22, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton =


    all style, no substance. Wow look at all them pretty colors.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton =

    by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby

    All Johnny Depp in make-up, no substance.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    re: itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby

    by The Amazing G

    it has to with Danny Elfman, not Tim Burton, someone mentioned Elfman and I remembered he did the main theme for that series

  • June 22, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST



    It was a good joke because it really fucking does. <p>Respect.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Did you know that Bonham Carter....


    ..and Burton live NEXT DOOR to one another with a door between their houses, because they don't think they can live together?<p>They're a strange couple. Still, if it wasn't for Burton (and MCG) Bonham Carter wouldn't have worked for the last few years.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Elijah Wood + Madonna =

    by The Dum Guy

    a bad porno.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST

    I'm glad carrot top is getting work again.

    by mitortilla

    JK Looks cool & creepy.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Depp's Mad Hatter


    Looks like Elijah Wood got fucked by Carrot-top

  • June 22, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST


    by Missing Dink

  • June 22, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST

    i dont know, i was expecting Shakespeare...

    by BMacSmith

    how is it if i turn my brain off?<p>looks cool to me.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Little sick of Johnny Depp

    by kolchak

    And Charlie and the Chocolate factory was an abomination. But I still have some faith in Burton.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Looks pretty damn good

    by CherryValance

    it does look a little Madonna-ish. The last photo of Depp as the Hatter someone in that talkback nailed as looking like Bernadette Peters. This should be pretty good. I'm ignoring how much I hated Sweeney Todd. So I'm still expecting much from this one. So far the look hasn't disappointed.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Yeah Depp in Ed Wood and Scissorhands = GOLD


    Depp in Wonka = ABSOLUTE SHIT.<P>So....I dunno. You tell me.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Could be cool

    by kbarber29

  • June 22, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Sweeney Todd


    Theres one I forgot...sucked

  • June 22, 2009, 12:41 a.m. CST

    I wonder....

    by The Dum Guy

    Does Depp do 3-ways with Burton and his wife?

  • June 22, 2009, 12:42 a.m. CST

    I found Sweeney Todd

    by kolchak

    went down slightly better with a second viewing.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:44 a.m. CST

    "Burton seems to have the perfect style

    by Stifler's Mom

    for this universe" Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what everybody said back in 99 while he remade SLEEPY HOLLOW. Then in 01 when he remade PLANET OF THE APES. Then in 05 when he remade WILLY WONKA. And we all know what happened there. BAD, BAD, BAD movies. Christ, Tim, do something original for a change. You best films come from ORIGINAL stories. BEETLEJUICE, SCISSORHANDS, ED WOOD, BIG FISH.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST

    anyone rembember back-when...

    by The Dum Guy

    there was serious talk of a Beetlejuice sequel that would take place in Hawaii?<br><br>If I remember correctly, the cartoon show was going to have a bit of an influence on it.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST

    White Queen shouldn't have brown eyebrows

    by mr teaspoon

    And Depp just looks stupid.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Burton must get good drugs


    I do wonder why He and Depp work together so often.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST

    I wish they'd given another actor a crack at the

    by Castlemonster

    Mad Hatter, but it looks like it should be a pretty sweet adaptation otherwise.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    'Twas Brillig

    by I_am_the_ultimate_product

    and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe, all mimsy were the borogroves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <p> So the Tweedles are in it, so I'm assuming it will be a mish-mosh of AIW and 'Through the Looking Glass.'

  • June 22, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Wait..Helena Bonham Carter and Johnny Depp in a Burton movie?

    by disfigurehead

    That's a stretch, The best Depp and Burton movie is Ed Wood.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST



    That was pretty good, mostly due to Michael Keaton. I forgot about Big Fish, that wasn't too bad either.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    The old live action movie terrified me

    by Rindain

    The one with the Jabberwocky. So may nightmares. Also, I like that this is a sort of pseudo-sequel taking place 10 years after she leaves Wonderland. Should be cool seeing a more "adult" version of the place.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST


    by stalfos

    It doesn't matter how good this movie will be. The bottom line is it's just more fodder for brooding teenage girls. There are going to be a lot of black t-shirts and ironic pink backpacks with Depp's face plastered on it once this film drops. Fuck. You. Burton.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Ed Wood was good....

    by Nuking the Fridge

    Tim Burton's best film as others have indicated. But I am getting tired of him. It is mostly that jerk off Danny Elfman, I can't stand his music anymore. Just Blows.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST


    by I_am_the_ultimate_product

    After reading the description I realize this movie will be not even close to either book.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST

    You're right stalfos Hot Topic is already getting

    by comedian_x

    a shipment.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Loved Sweeny Todd

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    Yes sir, you gandered!

  • June 22, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Danny Elfman


    Needed to retire after he wrote the Simpson's theme song.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Burton hasn't been interesting since 1997

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    And yet I might see this...

  • June 22, 2009, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Yeah that 80s made for tv one was scary as fuck.


    The whole fucking thing seemed like it was a dark. And that fucking beast busting through the floor in the party at the end.....crazy shit. <p>

  • June 22, 2009, 1:04 a.m. CST

    he sort of looks like elijah wood, lol.

    by Warcraft

    i dunno, something about his face reminds of of elijah wood. anyway, does anyone have a fucking link to the cheshire cat? can't find one on the net.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton's "Sweeney Todd" is his masterpiece.

    by Evangelion217

    So I'm really looking forward to this one. :) Oh, and Depp should play the Joker in the third Batman film.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:05 a.m. CST

    What exactly is...



  • June 22, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST

    I think it'll be uninterestingly shot and predictable at every t

    by IndustryKiller!

    Are we not over this yet? If Burton had done anything in his last, I dunno, 8 films that even hinted that the Burton of yesteryear isn't dead under a pile of money then maybe I would be excited. But Burton has been churning out Burton-lite tripe for like 13 years now. Moreover I think Sweeney Todd proved that even when his production design is top notch his camera and sense of vision is as boring as hell. Im hoping to be proven wrong ehre but I wouldnt bet money ont hat if I were you.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST

    massive flop! it doesn't look like the cartoon!

    by ironic_name

  • June 22, 2009, 1:08 a.m. CST

    You can't possibly think Sweeney Todd is a masterpiece

    by IndustryKiller!

    Unless you are really that entertained by Edward Gorey-esque costumes. Then again if you think Johnny Depp should play the Joker in Batman 3 what the hell am I expecting?

  • June 22, 2009, 1:09 a.m. CST

    "...come for your daughter, Chuck!"


    Finally Burton is back doing what he does best. Cant wait, hope it's a return to form.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Massive flop!

    by The Dark Shite

    You're a cunt, ironic_name. There's a flop for ya.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Will there be a vorpal sword?

    by I_am_the_ultimate_product

    The next Lightsaber

  • June 22, 2009, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Anyone who says Pee Wee's Big Adventure sucked...

    by D.Vader

    Is DEFINITELY not to be trusted. <p> "This guy ain't one of us!"

  • June 22, 2009, 1:16 a.m. CST

    Pee-wee's Big Adventure...


    SUCKED. There, I said it.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:17 a.m. CST

    The Sixth Doctor

    by g0dai

    Johnny Depp looks like him in this movie.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Pee Wee's Big Adventure

    by I_am_the_ultimate_product

    Was in a porno theater.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Sailor Ripley aint one of us!

    by D.Vader

    Don't trust this wolf in sheep's clothing!

  • June 22, 2009, 1:20 a.m. CST

    I changed my mind...

    by g0dai

    Now that I see that horrible background in the photo, all I can think is that he's the new villain in Schumacher's latest Batman flick.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Pee Wee's Big Adventure


    Seriously, If you're going to defend a Burton movie, You could pick a better one than that.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST

    This will suck just like all his movies

    by jplestatsd

    Destined to be a complete shitfest of style over any semblance of substance. Sadly, it will be hailed by many. Burton is a must miss director for me.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Fingers crossed!

    by The_Skook

    Visually this is stunning. I just hope Mr Burton remembers this is a childrens story that works on other levels, one of those being adult! I tire of Alice re-inventions and making it 'adult', but so far this looks promising.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton


    Time to get back to the real world bro.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Elijah Wood and Carrot Top - If they Made It

    by ThePilgrim

    Yeap, that's what the fucker would look like... Probably be just a smiley too. <P> I was kinda depressed to find out those first three images were concept painting and not actual frames from the film. :( Damn that shit looks great..

  • June 22, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Pee Wees Big Adventure

    by D.Vader

    Is simply delightful and one of Phil Hartman's greatest creative and comic outputs. If you don't enjoy that film, honestly, I don't think I could trust your tastes.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:34 a.m. CST



    Sorry man, to each his own. I just don't get Pee-Wee. He was great in the Blues Brothers though.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton is best as a gate way drug to Terry Gilliam

    by heavenlykid

  • June 22, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Terry Gilliam


    Now you're talking. Gilliam is sort of like the Thinking Man's Tim Burton.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Ahhh, I just took a dump

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Oh, look dancing skeletons!

  • June 22, 2009, 1:46 a.m. CST


    by BoopyBeepy

    Tim Burton stinks

  • June 22, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Its not about Pee Wee, its about the jokes

    by D.Vader

    The movie is just funny all around. It could be about a completely different character, and there would still be a great deal of funny moments in the film Come on, who can't laugh at the Alamo joke? <p> *A dazed Pee Wee, after being thrown from a bull at a rodeo, is woken up by a group of cowboys* <p> COWBOYS: What's your name?<p> PEE WEE: I dont remember. <p> COWBOYS: Where are you from? <p> PEEWEE: I dont remember... <p> COWBOYS: What do you remember? <p> PEE WEE: I remember... The Alamo... <p> The cowboys all throw their hats into the air and cheer. <p> COWBOYS: YAAAHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

  • June 22, 2009, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Pee Wee was in charge of his movie

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It was oblivious. That's why it was funny. Not Burton.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Crickets Chirping


  • June 22, 2009, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Holy fuck D. Vader...

    by The Dum Guy

    I was in San Antonio about a week ago driving thru down town and thought of exactly that qoute.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    This was a great...

    by codymr

    Adaptation of Alice in Wonderland: <P> Něco z Alenky:

  • June 22, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Pee Wees Big Adventure


    Alright, Alright. I haven't seen the God Damned movie in about 20 years. Maybe I'll give it another chance, I just remember finding it really unfunny.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Another vision of Alice... NSFW

    by Maestro610 On the few occasions I've attempted to put youtube video links here it does this thing where it adds a space or something... so if the link doesn't work just look and see if there's something simple wrong with it.. I'm pretty sure it'll be worth it....

  • June 22, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Wrong Link Above... still NSFW

    by Maestro610

    Yeah above I put the wrong link... same show different video... blah blah... here's the Alice one and it does put a space in after the v remove it and you'll get directly to the video.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Aw, g0dai beat me to it...

    by MediaGold

    First thing that came to my mind was he looks like Colin Baker as the sixth Doctor Who in his Ronald McDonald/Richard Simmons outfit.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Frank´N Furter

    by CuervoJones

    Sweet transvestite.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:11 a.m. CST


    by codymr

    The version of Alice you posted is WAY better than the version I posted.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Tired of Tim Burton

    by redfist

    can't get enough Johnny Depp. <P> The guy bring something good to everything he does. <P> Burton on the other hand, just does great design and art direction, but can't tell a story to save his life...last good thing was Big Fish...what was that...9 or 10 years ago?

  • June 22, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Beetlejuice is Burton's best film by far

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • June 22, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST


    by JuanSanchez

  • June 22, 2009, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Burton = great director, I mean art director.

    by Flip63Hole

    On the plus side - can't be any worse than choc factory...

  • June 22, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Burtons still uses the cardboard sets huh?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    At one time Burton was so great. Now, I've seen high school plays with better art direction.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST

    I'm with the "I'm tired of Burton." crowd...

    by Azlam Orlandu

    ...but this does look pretty amazing so far.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST


    by Toilet_Terror

    strut your stuff

  • June 22, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST

    If Spongebob Squarepants became human

    by Prossor


  • June 22, 2009, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Svankmeyer's Alice is the creepiest by far

    by aversiontherapy2

    This just looks cartoony, which might be ok.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:23 a.m. CST

    Oh boy

    by MorganLeafy

    One of the few people left in Hollywood with a bit of creativity and all you do is bitch. Yes, he’s made a couple of stinkers and I don’t like his taste for camp. He also has 2 movies in the IMDB top 250 and a Batman far better than the one we now know.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:27 a.m. CST

    The Dum Guy

    by Prossor

    No it's the threeway is between Depp, Burton and Elfman, they all put on white face paint too.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:45 a.m. CST

    Anne Hathaway needs fucked.

    by wowsah156

    Thats is all.

  • Best Picture, Best Director, Best Supporting Actor (Depp), Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Cinematography, Best Film Editing, Best Art Direction, Best Make Up... these are the Oscars they can rightfully expecting to get without much surprise...

  • June 22, 2009, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Fuck Burton Haters!!!!!!

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    Planet of the Apes sucked. Other than that, anyone who doubts the mans originality in the sterile blockbuster-producing schlock-fest that is the current state of Hollywood(cough Transformers, Terminator, Ben Stiller films cough) needs my steel toed workboot to connect with their fucking temple. Repeatedly....

  • June 22, 2009, 4:18 a.m. CST

    to all slagging off Burton...

    by Lemure_v2

    how many directors in the world right now have anywhere near his range? Name another director, just one, that made a big-budget family film then a stop-motion film and then a gothic musical. Name me just one. Sure he no longer works from original material, but who does? Scorcese? Spielberg? Zemeckis? (okay, maybe Gilliam, Cameron and Nolan - there are a few) And everytime he does adapt someone elses work he stays true to his own vision and does his own interpretation. The fact that Depp/Bonham-Carter are alway in his films? The Cohens, Ridley Scott, Tony Scott, Del Toro, Scorcese (again) all do the same. Bottom line, he is one of the best, most consistent and entertaining directors currently working in Hollywood. End of.

  • June 22, 2009, 4:21 a.m. CST

    It's that bag of slime Depp, right?

    by JackPumpkinhead

    I gather this is not the face he makes when he screams out his demands of a private jet for his pet monkey and threatens not to show up on the set otherwise?

  • June 22, 2009, 4:26 a.m. CST

    What Pride Float will this guy be on?

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    I really hope this turns out well. It would be a nice add to my DVD collection which already has several Burton entries.

  • June 22, 2009, 4:58 a.m. CST

    eloquently said Lemure_v2.....

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    too bad these retards deserve my crass version. Go fuck yourselves.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:20 a.m. CST

    fantastic landscape. i want to see the waterpipe.

    by pipergates

  • June 22, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Burton gets too much credit for so-so films

    by JuanSanchez

    Mars Attacks: D+, Sleepy Hollow: B-, Planet of the Apes: C-, Big Fish: C+... And lets not forget he didn't actually direct Nightmare Before Christmas - Henry Selick did. Lets face it - he hasn't actually made that many good films.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Give us BEETLEJUICE 2!

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    I mean it's not like Michael Keaton, Winona Ryder, Catherine O'Hara, Glen Shadix, Jeffrey Jones and Dick Cavett are y'know...busy. Getting Robert Goulet again may be a bit difficult unless you get Will Farrell to impersonate him (which could actually work if you put Goulet's character in the afterlife.) Just sayin'.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:44 a.m. CST

    I Didn't Know Carrot Top Was In Alice In Wonderland

    by LaserPants

    I've read both Alice books at least 100 times or more, and I never heard any mention of Carrot Top.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Hathaway reminds me of Alanis Morissette in that pic.

    by Kevin Holsinger

    Not sure why. But I'm looking forward to this movie all the same.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Needs to be more Arthur Rackham

    by Dingbatty

    and less Tim Burton tired aesthetic.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:01 a.m. CST

    DGDB: "It looks like Madonna"

    by Verbage

    LOL. It's true...Madonna is freakin' hideous.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:03 a.m. CST


    by Verbage

    Don't be jealous.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:06 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton haters

    by Verbage

    Burton is one of a few Hollywood directors who has his own vision instead of churning out generic pap.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Looks like Megan Fox five minutes after the sex change op

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Needs more ass model.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Dark Shite

    by ironic_name


  • June 22, 2009, 6:37 a.m. CST


    by livingwater

    Anne Hathaway look like Cicciolina : an ugly mess appealing to nobody.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:54 a.m. CST

    So... Madonna as the Mad Hatter?

    by Underdogthe3rd

    I liked it.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:55 a.m. CST

    This is your brain on mercury

    by BrandLoyalist

    Little less tuna and swordfish for Mr. Depp I think

  • June 22, 2009, 7:02 a.m. CST

    It's definitely Madonna - fucking scary indeed

    by Ray Gamma

    Shit man I'd plop my pants in an instant if that crazy woman offered me a cup of Qabballah tea.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Everything sucks, I hate Everything

    by sambafreak13

    Burton Sucks, Depp Sucks, Everyone Sucks...I Hate Everything, I come on AICN to make sure everyone knows how much I hate Everything, cuz hating everything is really really cool. I think I have become a "Hater-Hater"...

  • June 22, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Disturbing but in a good way.

    by RobotKing

    Unfortunately I'm not sold on the Queens looks.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Interesting Makeup Fact

    by MCVamp

    Anne Hathaway's White Queen makeup actually covers her eyebrows, however they are too powerful to be contained and appear anyway.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Dark dark dark blah blah blah blah

    by bah

    Another attempt to out-dark every other re-imagining of a creepy kids' book. Alice, Oz, Wonka. How many times are we going to try this? Does anybody even read the originals anymore? They're actually not all that dark. I'm not keen on a feature length "Where the Wild Things Are", but I welcome the dreamy quality Jonez has chosen over yet another completely UNchildlike acid trip nightmare.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Looks good!


    However Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Sleepy Hollow and Planet of the Apes all did as well and we know how those turned out. Don't fuck this up Burton, please.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Where are the publicity stills?

    by Darth_Tarantino

    I see the interactive artwork (which looks very good) but I don't see any publicity stills. Am I being thick people?? Someone paint me a big sign pointing at the publicity stills!!

  • June 22, 2009, 7:59 a.m. CST


    by Darth_Tarantino

    Totally agree on Planet Of The Apes and Michael Jackson's Chocolate Factory...but no fan of Sleepy Hollow? I've always loved that film, felt it had the perfect combination of cast, tone, visual effects and story.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:05 a.m. CST

    More Burton Wankery

    by Grandpa Bunche

    I'll give Tim Burton PEE-WEE'S BIG ADVENTURE, BEETLEJUICE, ED WOOD (which is excellent across the board) and, depending on my mood, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS. Every other film he's made ranges from pretentious/boring to outright fucking awful (PLANET OF THE APES), and I don't care what any of the Burton boosters say: visual style alone does not make a movie worth sitting through. If I hadn't gone with a group of friends to see it, I would have walked out on SLEEPY HOLLOW less than halfay through, and now with the benefit of hindsight I wish I had anyway.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:09 a.m. CST

    For dark is the suede that mows like...a harvest

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Ack, ack, ack, ACK-ACK!

  • June 22, 2009, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Stuntcock Mike= Ass Model

    by redfist

    just saying.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:10 a.m. CST

    How do you get to see the stills?

    by In_Rainbows

    Seriously, I'm clicking on everything and I can't find them! Do you click on the backgrounds? Cuz that's what I'm doing and nothings HAPPENING!

  • June 22, 2009, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Mad Hatter=A bizarre cross of Kozi and Yu~Ki from Malice Mizer

    by Anna Valerious

    Yeah, it's THAT J-Rock. The first pic, however, reminds me of a scene from the animated movie. I wonder if they'll sing "Golden Afternoon".

  • June 22, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST

    redfist = Professional

    by Stuntcock Mike

    As always.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    I'm tired of the "I'm tired of Tim Burton" routine...

    by FlickaPoo've been repeating yourselves since the 90's. It's boring. Move along.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST



    I haven't watched Sleepy Hollow in years, so it's hard for me to do a thorough job of picking it apart. From what I remember, the Headless Horseman's background felt tacked on and unnecessary. Essentially it suffered from the same thing as Charlie and the Chocolate Factory....too much unneeded information.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    USA tood down pics...follow me down rabbit hole to see them

    by MrGeef

  • June 22, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

    MrGreef = Richard Gere!

    by YackBacker

    j/k, thanks for the link. USA Today finally publishes something moderately interesting and then they back off. No wonder newspapers are dying.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    At least Tim Burton knows how to make a Batman movie

    by Sithdan

    Burton is a mster storyteller who crafts larger-than-life films that leave an in indelible impression. Nolan's POS Batman series doesn't even hold a candle to the brilliance of Batman Returns. I'm looking forward to see what Burton does with Lewis Carroll's classic pedo novel.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Depp is cool...

    by torpedoboy

    ...but it shoulda been Tom Petty. How fucking awesome would THAT be?!?!

  • June 22, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST


    by kafka07

    That's fucking weird! But I have a feeling this film will turn out much better than Burton's Willy Wonka. Color me intrigued!

  • June 22, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Matt Lucas?

    by Series7

    How come he's getting all the casting calls? I prefer David, though he will make a good tweedle dee and dumb. But this movie will suck. Tim Burton's use of green screen is terrible, he needs to stop trying to follow Zmeck and Lucas and go back to his roots, fucking Mars Attacks, he's last good movie. Sweeny was alright.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Any Retard and do what Burton Does, fuck him

    by hatespeech

    in his fucking retarded goat ass

  • June 22, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton keeps making the same movie over and over

    by Snookeroo

    And Hollywood keeps kissing his ass over and over.<br><br>Go figure.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    This is going to be some trippy as shit!

  • June 22, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Just can't watch..

    by subfreq

    Helena Bonham Crater in a film. Awful actress. She makes my eyes burn when I see her in a film. Promo's look about as original as a new Tarantino film.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Glad he's going back to his own unique style, with Depp no less. He might not always strike gold, but the man certainly entertains and he gives his best. Which is more than one can say for 90% of the product out there.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    I bet Anne Hathaway has lovely cunt brows...


  • June 22, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST


    by snaps_provolone

    Wow. Depp looks like the Mugatu hallucination in Zoolander. "OBEY MY DOG!" "Now kill the PRIMIE MINISTER OF MALASIAAAAAA!!!"

  • June 22, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST


    by Firbolog

    About damn time someone did this with the disturbing visuals from the story.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Makes me think of kefka

    by shaft478

    I wish they'd make final fantasy vi into a movie. Brilliant characters and excellent story.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST


    by Knightsong

    I think this movie could worse than his Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. That movie had no charm and was an abysmal mess. Depp doesn't look interesting at all. He looks like Burton's version of Mr. Data if he were given the chance to remake the Next Generation. Burton used to be an interesting director that I liked, no I cringe when I hear he's taking the directing chair.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Still, it wasn't horrible.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    a polite 'fuck off' to all Burton/Depp haters...

    by jackknifed_juggernaut

    this looks fucking money. but if you think otherwise, fret not... Beastly will be playing in a theatre near you. whiny cunts.

  • June 22, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    woah woah woah

    by Semen Stains

    Sweeney Todd was an awesome movie.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Johnny Depp is Bryce Dallas Howard

    by Spyhunter

    First thing I thought when I saw that pic of him as the Mad Hatter.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    My favorite thing about Charlie

    by kolchak

    Was Gene Wilder doing interviews slamming it to shit. That was awesome.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    It would possibly be the scariest movie ever.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Burton is best

    by Series7

    Doing his own material. And stay the fuck away from stop motion unless you got Henry Selick doing the work for you. My god was the Corpse Bride awful.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    The head of my penis should collaborate with Anne's cunt.


    They could do a duet.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    Yeah POTA sucked but in fairness to Burton he was tacked on late in production and the movie would have been infinitely better without Wahlberg, the most overrated actor to ever be put on film, and the distracting Helena Bonham Carter Michael Jackson chimp face. To me Big Fish was Burton's worst movie, which is not bad per se, just tired.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Part of Burton's problem

    by Series7

    Now, is that Elfman sucks now too. His last decent score was on Planet of The Apes. He just hasn't made anything slightly memorable since. Hellboy 2 was ok, but T4 and SOP??? Nothing there.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Porn version of ALICE FTW!

    by Orbots Commander

    Have you guys ever seen it? I caught bits of it at a college beer bash/keg party that someone had playing on TV in the background, years and years ago. I remember it being kind of trippy: a musical with a hot chick and lots of skin. Alice actually felates the Mad Hatter in that one.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Not in a good way either.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Jesus, the Tweedles look like a Monty Python cartoon!

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    Which is pretty damn creepy-cool.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    The art of love making

    by Series7

    Starring Tim Burton and HBC, if Tim really wants to creep us out he'll release his home video collection.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Burton MIGHT just work for this one

    by thot

    Maybe. He was all wrong for the abysmal POTA and CATCF. However, despite casting Depp and Carter in everything, he just might have the right twisted vision to make Alice in Wonderland work. Depp's Mad Hatter has me a little concerned though, looks like Elijah Wood on meth.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    he did for Wanted. <P>

  • June 22, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST


    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    I was so sure that Tim Burton would tackle that after the Chocolate Factory, and I guess it'll never happen anytime soon.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST


    by kolchak

    might have been better if Elfman rehashed his Beetlejuice score. WIth a little Harry Belafonte thrown in.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Anne is hot.

    by Orbots Commander

    I saw RACHEL GETTING MARRIED over the weekend on a 'staying-in' date with a lady friend. Hathaway is a real looker; the girl playing her sister gives a better, less showy, performance though.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    He should stick with supporting roles in large emsembles - like The Departed.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Series agreed on Elfman....he's kind of lost it

    by odo19

    His last few efforts has been really subpar. Though I think his last great score was for Hulk, which is one of my favorite scores ever.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    This may be (very) good...

    by Citizen Sane

    ...and I'm guessing the we have Carrot Top to thank for Johnny Depp's latest inspiration.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    From the mind of Tim Burton

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    the same movie you've seen him make for the last 25 years<br> Using the same actors

  • June 22, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Yeah I forget he did Hulk and Wanted

    by Series7

    I just remember Wanted using an old NIN song and Hulk had that Velvet Revolver song. Maybe if those movies weren't complete garbage I could move past how terrible they are I would've noticed the music.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST




  • June 22, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Anne Hath

    by Series7

    Looks like a character out of Wallace and Gromit with her face, those teeth.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Children love scary movies

    by Beezbo

    I know so many parents who won't let their children see anything scary at all. I was recently critisized for letting my 6 year-old see "Jurrasic Park". Was she scared? A bit, but she loved it. It's not like I'm showing her "The Exorcist." "Alice" is right in Burton's comfort zone, but I can't remember the last movie he made that I actually liked.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Johnny Depp is great and all...

    by Curious_Jorge

    but it would be nice if Tim Burton found some other actors to work with than Depp and Carter. It's getting to be like the Clint Eastwood movies of the late 70's... the same actors in every movie, and to some degree you felt like you were watching the same movie over and over again.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST


    by bah

    I think it's less the scary and more the dismemberment and eating-people-alive that you might have been getting criticized over.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    It's not going to be nearly as "Creepy" as everyone's making it

    by TheFreeScreeningWhore

    Sources close to the movie say Burton is purposefully trying to distance himself from the expectation that this will be "another Gothic Burton Movie." Also, the script is solid.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Scary? Looks like the Fag Hatter to me

    by FeralAngel

    Come on, that's not creepy, unless you're scared of gay clowns (which, admittedly, may indeed be every redneck schoolkid's nightmare). I think it looks cool. And the background art at USA Today looks FANTASTIC. I'm actually interested now in going to see it. Plus, the scriptwriters have added a new twist to the story - it's actually NOT a retelling of the original "Adventures in Wonderland" but a SEQUEL. Alice returns to Wonderland (while escaping from an unwanted marriage proposal) at age 17, but although she visited there 10 years before, she has no memory of it. Sounds like a story of an escape back to childhood. Something I can definitely identify with. I'm looking forward to more info on this now.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST


    by kolchak

    I was thinking the same thing. Charlie was supposed to be creepy too. And, aside from Depp modeling his character after a child molester, it wasn't. In fact, the original was MUCH scarier.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Is Elfman even confirmed?


    I thought they had a falling out.<p>If he's not gonna do it-- get John Murphy.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I'd Only Be Scared...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...if you told me I had to have a conversation with this guy and couldn't smack him.<p>Sorry, men and women won't be scared of ALICE IN WONDERLAND and most kids won't care.<p>They do one of these creepy ALICES and edgy WIZARD OF OZs every yeard.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    You guys are prooving my point

    by TheFreeScreeningWhore

    The only people looking at these pictures and seeing "creepy" are the ones bringing a boat load of expectation with them. That being said, again, the script is solid enough that I don't think anyone will care.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Political correctness

    by kolchak

    and pussified parenting techniques have more or less stopped all "scary" children's media. Studios never used to care because it was always assumed that a good scare is healthy for kids, especially with a moral attached. <p> Today studios don't make stuff like that. The only example I've seen in years was Coraline, which had kids in my theater crying ( and that's when I knew it was effective). <p> They need to start airing old "Tales from the darkside" episodes or something. Toughen these pansy kids up.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Can't Wait For Burtons X Files With Depp As Scully

    by faison

  • June 22, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Carroll wrote two Alice books,

    by hillvalley

    "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking-Glass, and what Alice Found There." Can we please, for once, film an adaptation that doesn't bastardize them by cross-pollenating the characters into some kind of greatest hits? The Mad Hatter and the Tweedles don't belong in the same movie. Sheesh!

  • June 22, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Not as scary as DRAG ME TO HELL !!!!!

    by NoDiggity

    No frigging way. Screw Burton and his precious Goth puppetry. Join the "Drag Me To Hell" talkback! <br><br> <br><br> (remove the AICN spaces)

  • June 22, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by TheFreeScreeningWhore

    It's doesn't. It's more of a sequel. Kind of.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Oh Fuck, I just looked at that picture of Depp ..

    by NoDiggity

    ... that is fucking scary ..

  • June 22, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST



    I see through your ruse! Also wrong talkback.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Non-Parents On Scary Stuff For Kids

    by Buzz Maverik

    I think I finally have this figured out.<p>Before I became Father O' The Year, I was in the movie geek/studio b.s. camp that said, "These parents are trying to overprotect their kids from blah,blah,blah..."<p>Mostly because I wanted to see the scary, childish movie. Once yer a parent, you don't really want to see cartoons or ALICE IN WONDERLAND. It's much cooler to be the kind of eat a steak, do a shot of tequila and smoke a cigar kind of guy.<p>Then, when I became a parent, while my kids were little, I thought, "Those non-parents are as crazy as I was. I know my kids and I'm not going to subject them to some frightening piece of studio merchandise that they don't know is real. What do I care that some director and 22 year old fan is telling me Kids can take more than you think?"<p>Now, my kids are in the middle grades and crazy about ALIENS, and TERMINATORS and the PREDATOR and JURASSIC PARK and zombies.<p>So here's my theory: when parents object, they're thinking of their kids as little kids. And when geeks protest, they're remembering themselves at 9 or 10, not 4 or 5.<p>Begin countdown until someone says they saw OMENCIST at age 2 and loved it or someone showed their preschooler NIGHT OF THE LIVING CHAINSAW MASSACRE and the kids plays it over and over.<p>Although, I think I'd worry more if my sons wanted to see ALICE IN WONDERLAND once they were over age 6, unless they're into filmmaking or art.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    The only thing predictable...

    by Arteska

    has been the same boredom masquerading as faux negativity that characterizes virtually every talkbalk about every topic on this site anymore. Virtually all TB's can be summed up with three posts or variations on them: "Looks like shit." "X-Director is a hack that hasn't done anything relevant in y-amount of time." and my favorite, "I could write better than this crap." despite all given evidence to the contrary.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Drag me to Hell

    by kolchak

    was a disappointment to say the least. End of story. <p>Back to the topic at hand?

  • June 22, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    i'd *so* love to complete Anne's look by jizzing...

    by jackknifed_juggernaut

    on those eyebrows. 'White Queen' indeed...

  • June 22, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Lucas I'll give you, but not the Berg. But then again, I liked the majority of Burton's work. <p> If you think Burton is taking a hit here head over to the IB thread and see what people are saying about Tarantino.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Drag Me to Hell

    by MetiphisLabs

    Was awesome, and I won't let you snide little typical talkback motherfuckers besmirch its good name with your automatic dismissive robot programming. Dime a dozen personalities that's what you got.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    an audience.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Who to believe?

  • June 22, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Guys...I'm not even joking.


    I mean to fuck Anne Hathaway's face.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Fuck this. the U.S. Open is insane!!!!

    by HoboCode

  • June 22, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Drag me to hell

    by kolchak

    Was extremely divisive. I respect what Raimi was trying to do, but it ended up being just fucking goofy.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    where are the Red & White Queen images?

    by HarryWannaBe

    When I click the USA Today links, all I'm seeing are the three 'widescreen' zoom-in/zoom-out images (The White Rabbit, Alice with the flowers and The Tweedles)... Did USA Today take down some links and/or images or something? Can someone please provide more links to the Red & White Queen images please?

  • June 22, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Evil Deads were goofy

    by MetiphisLabs

    Point being?

  • June 22, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    You're getting curioser and curioser. I can't stand the "sport" but that's not to impugn your interests.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST


    by HarryWannaBe

    Found them elsewhere...!

  • June 22, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    Yes, I like Shyamalan films and golf. Sue me.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Looks like USA Today took the images down.

    by TheFreeScreeningWhore

    Wonder why. Well, I hear the posters are being unveiled this week, guess that has something to do with it.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    and followed Mickelson for the day. Wish Tiger was there as that would at least have been interesting and borderline exciting. Didn't go this year because I didn't want to spend another day of my life with my stupid FIL, and was glad that the Open was mostly rained out hahhahahahahahaaha!!!!

  • June 22, 2009, noon CST


  • June 22, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    My point being it sucked.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    I prefer cerebral scares, not goofy tricks. Thanks for saving me time and $.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Burton always looks good in production art

    by Sepulchrave

    ..but he's never really scary, or anything other than utterly superficial. C'mon, we have a long, drippy career full of toothless, pretty pictures to draw on here: when did he ever do anything remotely visceral or disturbing? He's a Disney boy at heart: always was, always will be.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Fucking scary, right? Uhhh, no. Seriously gay though.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    I've got faith Burton will make it look good onscreen, and that the film will be darker, a bit of a surreal and scary ride. But that poster isn't scary, just freakishly gay.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    CGI possessed talking goat?

    by HoboCode

    I think I just saved some money as well.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST


    by Sepulchrave

    Everuything you need to know about Burton's need for gooey suburban acceptance is contained in that one decision. He wouldn't know uncanny, cark or mysterious if is bit him on his aspartame ass.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST


    by Sepulchrave

    Everything you need to know about Burton's need for gooey suburban acceptance is contained in that one decision. He wouldn't know uncanny, dark or mysterious if it bit him on his aspartame ass.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Ayatollahsexyback, DRAG ME TO HELL was excellent.

    by NoDiggity

    Knuckle dragging retards disagree, of course.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    And the "talking goat" ? What was goofy about it?

    by NoDiggity

    It had one line, and then stopped talking. And it was a great line.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    People are FUCKTARDS. The "talking goat" was possessed.

    by NoDiggity

    It was possessed for 5 seconds, and said one line (a very cool line) and that means the whole movie sucks? What idiots.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    NODIGGITY - Drag me to Hell sucked.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Hence the lack of people going to see it. Raimi was great back in the day, love his earlier films all the way through Simple Plan - but taking on Spiderman killed that guys abilities, it seems. Would have loved it if that film had been great, but it wasn't, and Raimi doesn't get a pass for making a shit film just because of who he is. The opposite in fact, because we all know how good he can be.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST


    by uberman

    I think this movie will have Burtons imagery all over it. It will look like it was shot on a soundstage. It will be visual but have no soul. It will be an empty movie experiance. There will be no sense of wonder either, because wonder requires a hightened sense, and Burtons films have no sense of anything. If Burtons films were food, they would be a big bowl of sugar-sweet at first but you leave with a sick feeling in your stomach and wish you'd never ate the whole thing. Burtons films work best as simple pictures, something that belongs in a coffee table book. As film, they're tedious, boring and completely unremarkable.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Kolchak You Night Stalking Motherfucker!

    by MetiphisLabs

    I bet you look like the dad from Christmas Story!

  • June 22, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Oh, SubtitlesOff, you are so clever ..

    by NoDiggity

    ... to predict the possession of a goat brought into a ceremony FOR THE STATED PURPOSE OF DRIVING A SPIRIT INTO IT. Make sure you use your precognitive powers for good instead of evil.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    You're retarded...

  • June 22, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Ugggh, I didn't know I could care any less . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . but I just found a way. These pics make me feel like we were tricked and Burton really directed Schumacher's Bat-Films.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Hint of Smegma re: Raimi's Spiderman movies

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    I'm with you. I hate all of Raimi's Spider-man movies and since word is that 40 year old Tobey "Block of Wood" Maguire and Kirsten "I hate the franchise" Dunst are both back on board for part 4, my hopes aren't that high for the next installment.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I'm a retard

    by IAmLegolas

    anyone care to post direct links to the other two actor's photos? I can't find it anywhere on that USAToday site, I only see the 3 production artworks.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Really, NoDiggety, I think its time to end it

    by D.Vader

    Or keep spamming the Drag Me To Hell talkback to keep it in the Top Ten, whatever. But spamming the rest of the talkbacks about how great the movie is is becoming unforgivable, like when Trannyformers_Apologist spams every story to tell us why Transformers2 will suck. Its annoying as hell.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    PeeWee's Big Adventure

    by ufoclub1977

    Is such an original, well crafted, paced, acted, shot, stylized movie that it stands on it's own outside of most people even realizing it's by Tim Burton. That and Ed Wood are his great ones so far. Oh the Johhny Dep pic made me think of that actress, you know, Ron Howard's daughter... Bryce... from Spiderman and Lady in the Water

  • June 22, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    thanks Subtitles_Off

    by IAmLegolas

  • June 22, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    If Drag me to Hell

    by kolchak

    wasn't directed by Raimi, all of you Raimi zombies would be ripping it to shreds for it's shitty jump scares and lack of real suspense. <p> It's just another PG-13 "boo!" fest.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    That looks fucking stupid.

    by StarWarsRedux

    I'm sorry, but you don't need to put THAT much make-up on Johnny Depp to make him look scary. They're overdoing it.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    Nope, woulda loved the ride either way.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Harvey Levin read this fucking TB!!


    FUCK HIM.<P>

  • June 22, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    I don't think there will be a feature film and I'm glad. That TV revamping completely destroyed the feel of the original. It was just trying to be another X-files.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Alice In Wonderland in Tim Burton's hands

    by Voyageur

    Alice in Wonderland is one of my top 5 favorite books, and I can tell you that it's not just some 'nightmare' of a story. Yes, it has it's creepy moments, and it's quite surreal, but to call it a nightmare is a disservice. It is many things. And I think Tim Burton directing will erase everything that's great about the book: Lewis Carroll's inventive worldplay (puns, inverted logic, nonsense, the mathematics), the John Tenniel illustrations (which are amazing), etc. etc. This movie will be nothing more than Tim Burton's visual extravaganza at the expense of the story. It will have his stamp to on it to such a high degree that Lewis Carrol's Alice in Wonderland will disappear. I, for one, am not excited.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Well at least it looks better than Inglorious Basterds....

    by TheWaqman

    Tarantino is the real washed up director. I used to argue that Pulp Fiction was his final masterpiece. But I tried watching it again. It follows that shitty derivative Tarantino formula where they have crappy pointless discussions for an hour. Reservoir Dogs, his first and last good film, was the tightest of the bunch he's made. He should watch that film and learn his lesson. Burton on the other hand can get repetitive in style, but hey at least he made Ed Wood and Big Fish to stray abit away from time to time. I have no problem with Depp though. He's a fantastic actor. One of the best working today.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    If you enjoyed Drag me to Hell

    by kolchak

    Try giving "The Grudge 2" a spin. There were lots of twelve-year-old-girl-screams coming from that theater too.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Sweeney Todd was great

    by performingmonkey

    I loved it, despite the fact that Helena Bonham Carter can't really sing! That didn't matter in the end, Depp, Rickman and the younger cast ruled the movie. Maybe if you don't like musicals you won't get it, but I reckon it's one of Burton's best since the Apes debacle.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Burton is all style and no substance

    by Rupee88

    slight exaggeration but only slight

  • June 22, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    I call bullshit. You can't watch "Big Fish" and tell me there's no substance there.

  • June 22, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Sometimes I wonder

    by MetiphisLabs

    If any of you ever have fun watching movies in the theater or otherwise. You can find fault in anything if that's your personality. Obviously arguing on a talkback isn't going to sway the opinion of either side, even if it is a bit amusing/frustrating. I personally enjoyed Drag Me To Hell, saw it twice, thought it was a great ride. Argue that it sucked if you must. I got my great memories of it.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Rupee88, good thing Burton didn't write this movie.

    by TheFreeScreeningWhore

    Also, Voyageur, I've read the Carroll books dozens of times, and are you really trying to claim that they possess any form of narrative sophistication? I mean, I understand the love and respect for his wordplay (which, I can tell you, is a force in the script) but the stories have always been pretty nonexistent. I'm happy to say Woolverton has told a truly compelling story within the framwork of Carroll's iconography. Lets be honest, all the movie versions of Alice that were closest to the books were downright terrible.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    This went from something I had no interest in...

    by DanielKurland

    to something I'll definitely see.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    Lets compare Drag me to Hell to the Grudge 2. You officially lost all credibility of having a balanced perception of film quality and scripting. I see Drag Me To Hell's faults, but comparing it to the Grudge 2? If you value your stock as a critic in any fashion you'll recant that silly statement.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    If you want to say it's a good source of comfort food, that's fine. It's a "check your brain at the door and laugh at vomit and dancing possessed people" movie. <p> But don't say it's an effective horror film. To put it simply: Transformers is to the action genre what Drag me to Hell is to the horror genre.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    And yeah, Sweeney Todd WAS great...

    by DanielKurland

    The sequence during Carter's "cute" song about a happy life with Depp is so fucking gorgeous. When they're at the pier specifically.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    I have fun watching good movies in the theater.


    It's true. If they're good, chances are I'll have fun.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    They're both PG-13, involve curses, and neither are scary. Both also have shots of people coughing things up and are riddled with jump scares. Neither have suspense. <p> I was generalizing, sure. But I wouldn't say Drag me to hell was better scripted. The difference is the grudge 2 was funny when it wasn't trying to be and DMTH was unfunny when it WAS trying to be.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    You're not gonna tell me the fight in the car didn't add something we had never seen before to the horror genre. And the film was shot beautifully. I'd pit the camera placement and movement in Drag me To Hell against any horror in recent memory.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Really? You'd say DMTH was filmed at the same level as "Let the Right One in"? <p>Talk about losing credibility...

  • June 22, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    I'm having an enjoyable argument with Kolchak, you on the other hand are not enjoyable.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Red Queen = Queen of Hearts?

    by berserkrl

    Those are two different characters in the books. The Queen of Hearts is the "off with their heads!" playing-card character in _Alice in Wonderland_, while the Red Queen and the White Queen are both chesspiece characters in _Through the Looking-glass_. Are the Red Queen and Queen of Hearts being combined into one character here?

  • June 22, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Someone may have already said this but

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    He already made it. It was called Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and the Mad Hatter was the star.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Everything doesnt suck...

    by grendel69

    .. but Tim Burton is the most overrated director in hollywood. How many really good films has he made? Ed Wood is fantastic and Pee Wees Big Adventure is enjoyable fun.Big Fish and Sleepy Hollow are just ok. Hes a better designer than he is director.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Let the Right One In

    by MetiphisLabs

    Had different pacing, but yes, I'd say both were superbly Directed for their tones.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST

    I love the Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Don't Come Around Here No More. That was the perfect homage to Alice in Wonderland. Cake anyone?

  • June 22, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Jump scares

    by MetiphisLabs

    The only other jump scares in a film that were of the same style as Drag Me To Hell was Lord of the Rings whenever they flashed Sauron's eye suddenly. Same flavor.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Blech, Subtitles Off. Must completely disagree with you there

    by D.Vader

    That would have made the death scene like EVERY OTHER death scene in a dramatic film. I was surprised and very impressed with the symbolic death (the dad saying goodbye to all his friends, turning into the fish that swims away a legend) and found that to be much more moving than a standard death scene you can find in any other film.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    I don't think that car sequence was anything new. The difference was it was a gypsy breaking into the car in lieu of a knife wielding stalker or monster. <p> As for the direction, it was alright. I thought the decision to show the little boy going down in the beginning was awful. Other than that it's less a problem of directing and more a problem of writing.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    I wish AICN would get with the program

    by Gwai Lo

    and post the new Halloween 2 and Inglourious Basterds trailers so we could discuss them instead of another damn Tim Burton breaks out the Crayola box picture

  • June 22, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    The tension before the fight, the angles during the fight, especially the coughing ruler part, were well crafted. I wouldn't be surprised to see it on top 10 fight scene lists in years to come. The Gypsy flying face first into the dashboard? Only the soulless wouldn't enjoy the brutality of that scene.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Yes I will

    by MetiphisLabs

    Tel you about jump scares, because they come in different styles and flavors. Just like different breeds of cats have similar overall features but also have obvious differences. Is it far too difficult to see a world of color in your gray scale vision?

  • June 22, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    There is no difference between the jump scares in "One Missed Call" or "DMTH". A jump scare is a jump scare. They don't have unique stylings. By the way, the cut to "hell" during the silence in the tarot reading was one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Tired of Tim Burton's hair

    by MediaGold

    Robert Smith 'dos went out sometime during the summer of 1987. You're in your 50s, time to grow up and get a manly haircut like Arnold Rimmer's.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    Doing exactly what you're accusing me of, and making generalized statements with no substance to do it. You're very typical.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    It DOES look like Madonna.

    by JEFFREYJONES_GINGER_TAINT Fuck this Pedostory.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    And the 7 jumps to Saurons eye anytime someone looks at the ring, touched the ring or loo into the Palantir wasn't overused?

  • June 22, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    "Only the soulless wouldn't enjoy brutality"

    by kolchak

    Does that mean that scene in "Satan's little Helper" where the killer smashes a cat into a wall and crushes its skull is masterfully shot? You know, because it's brutal and you have to enjoy it or else you don't have a soul.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    I can see where you're coming from Subtitles

    by D.Vader

    I just enjoyed its uniqueness and found it to be much more moving. A teary bed-side goodbye would have, I think, had me rolling my eyes because it seems to be so cliched at this point in cinema history. That said, however, I can see how the reality would work for you better than the fantasy. To each his own.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Did anyone say they weren't? Of course they were.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST


    by Gwai Lo

    False alarm, just a squirrel eating a nut at the window

  • June 22, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Jump scares make you jump

    by MetiphisLabs

    But like I said there are different breeds. A killer jumps out, a non threatnng cat jumps out, a flash to unrelated image, a flash to a threat that isn't immediately present. Playing with the timing etc. The effects are the same, but the flavors are different. I am completely valid to point out that DMTH had jump scares similar to LOTR as opposed to the Halloween movies.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    It's the way the brutality was delivered not just the act itself.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    They're things jumping out. It doesn't matter what's jumping out. It could be Mickey Rourke in a thong. Who gives a shit? <p> The ones in DMTH are JUST like the ones in Halloween or any other horror franchise.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST


    by MetiphisLabs

    My roomates are ready to go to the beach finally. Kolchak I enjoyed the argument, much respect. Neither of us swayed each other, but that's fine. Subtitle, learn to be cool like Kolchak.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    So I guess because this brutality was delivered with lots of CG shots it's more brutal? The shot I spoke of was a nice, non-shaky cam, still shot. And it was much creepier. And that movie was GOD AWFUL (Satan's little Helper). I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Never saw it Kolchak

    by MetiphisLabs

    I'll check it out, later man.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Don't. Trust me. <p> Anyway, the the jump scare shots to a demonic gypsy spirit are just like ones of a guy in a Shatner mask. <p> But, hey. Enjoy the beach.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    "If a shark jumps at you on the beach, ask him how you taste"

    by kolchak

    Best line in the TB. Subtitles is clearly the same level as cool.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Jump scares have been artfully done

    by Gwai Lo

    But for every "last scene of Carrie" there's about a thousand jump scares on the other side ruining the rep with insane cats, Dads just downstairs making a sandwich, summer camp children lurking inappropriately behind trees, and completely innocuous every day objects

  • June 22, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    I would have loved DMTH when I was 8.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    I can't see

    by DennisMM

    anything but the production art. How the hell do I get to the other portraits? Grr.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Reading the argument over DMTH

    by SavageJuicebox

    The venom from the haters makes me want to see it even more. Makes me think it's probably pretty good from the vehement, almost desperate hatred.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Good to see DM2H getting some love here


    Well deserved.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    So you enjoy seeing movies that are panned?

    by kolchak

    Have fun at Year One, juicebox.

  • June 22, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    burton used to be fun

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    now i feel like i know exactly what im going to get when i pop in one of his movies. he has become a parody of himself. this movie looks like the wayans brothers and the cast of madtv got together and made "Tim Burton Movie"

  • June 22, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    is this becoming the Drag me to Hell board?

    by martinlutherkrangjr

  • we should feel at ease Alice in Wonderland is the hands of a competent director.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    the only thing better about burtons batman

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    is the batman theme song. i still think the best batman is the animated series in the 90s.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    I'd love to talk about Wonderland

    by SavageJuicebox

    When Kolchak and Subtitle are done jerking each other off and high fiving.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp as Elijah Wood as The Mad Hatter

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • June 22, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Burton better nail this one

    by SavageJuicebox

    He needs the win.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Looks like an Emo Carrot Top to me...

    by TylerDurden3395

  • June 22, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I can't wait for Nolan to reboot Alice in Wonderland

    by Gwai Lo

  • June 22, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I haven't seen DMTH yet

    by Gwai Lo

    The trailer made it look like a stinker, but the reviews have been glowing. I would have checked it out by now but I was traveling and then I got swine flu.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Anne Hathaway

    by kolchak

    appears to be the most promising casting effort so far. I wish Johnny Depp and Bonham Carter sat this one out.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    gwai lo

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    i like dmth, but it wasn't very scary it was just a crazy silly movie with lots of gross out gags going on in it. its certainly not a great horror movie but it was a fun time. I saw it at a drive in while drinking copious amounts of booze with a big group of people and would recommend seeing it in that fashion if there is a drive in near you. and if you drink copious amounts of booze and want some cheesy laughs.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton Movie directed by Keenan Ivory Wayans

    by martinlutherkrangjr

    starring your favorite starving mad tv comics from 95-2001 in hilarious spoof of tim burtons movies! cameos from shaq, carmen elektra, dustin diamond, pauly shore and many more!

  • June 22, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    So where's the shot of Helena Bonham Carter as the

    by CreasyBear

    Red Queen? It's not with the USA today collection.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Personally I love Tim Burton

    by WT

    Having read the book Burton on Burton, it was interesting to see his process and how he works. I'd advise people to read that before judging him too harshly, as he's quite dry and self-deprecating as well. Be honest, the only truly bad film he did was the Planet of the Apes remake, and even then the ending still got people talking.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST


    by SavageJuicebox

    Step 1 - Insult Subtitle, elude to more important things to be discussed. Step 2 - Say something derivitive about the topic at hand. Step 3 - Wait for inevitable tap dance from talkback troll. You're a dancing monkey Subtitle. And I turn your crank. Toss the kid a nickel.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    The Queen of Hearts and Red Queen are not the same!

    by Sithdan

    They are two totally different characters!

  • June 22, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I Want to see Burton make just ONE ORIGINAL MOVIE

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • June 22, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Swine Flu is more enjoyable than Drag Me To Hell


    So I've heard.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    glad i'm not the only one who thought of elijah.

    by Warcraft

    infact, if the report had stated "staring elijah wood as the mad hatter" I would have believed it.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST


    by uberman

    I love him enough to tell him the truth: That thos maniquins on the OLD NAVY adds have more personality and life than anyone he's ever directed. The man has a knack for turning gold into cardboard.

  • June 22, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST


    by DennisMM

    Many thanks. Bizarre!

  • June 22, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    The reason we're still on DM2H

    by kolchak

    is because there's only so much to be said about a set of pictures.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Having seen both Let The Right One In AND DMTH

    by gavdiggity

    They shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Let The Right One In is a (mostly) subtle, (mostly) quiet, beautifully shot drama. Drag me To hell was a dopey, entertaining cartoon. It was fun, but there was no subtext or underlying message. People like NoDiggity are looking for fire where there's only a smoke bomb. <P> For the record, I liked them both. But one was a gourmet meal, and one was a late-night drive through burger after a night of heavy drinking.<P> as for these pictures, I don't think anyone's disputing Burton's got his own sense of style. But I'd he's definitely hit (Pee Wee) or miss (Planet of the Apes).

  • June 22, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    I like the subtle trick that's done with the contact lenses.

    by Royston Lodge

    One of his contact lenses seems designed to make it appear that one eye is slightly off-centre. That's a nice, subtle touch that adds to the character's mania without beating you over the head.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    by Voyageur

    I would agree that all adaptations have been quite terrible. But, I never said the narrative was sophisticated. Anyone who has read the book enjoys the incoherence. The book is about reality turned upside-down and inside-out. The Count of Monte Cristo it is not, and that is Carroll's lasting influence on fans of the books, and writers and filmmakers in particular. But the incoherence and surrealism of the book doesn't give screenwriters or a director free license to do as they please, and go campy and over-the-top (which Burton's conception of the Hatter is). Hatter is bizarre, but what Burton has done is a travesty. Now, the film might change my opinion on this (I will allow for that possibility), but I remain skeptical and uninterested in Burton's vision. It isn't his story... It is as much Tenniel's as it is Carroll's. And a certain respect for Tenniel's illustrations is demanded, in my opinion, and Burton has not been respectful from what I can tell.

  • that last post title was meant as a reply to you... I cut and pasted the link to this page dammit. sorry.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    "Hey!!!!"- Grammaton Cleric Binks- Tom Petty

    by BanditDarville

    That Tom Petty video will always be my favorite Alice in Wonderland adaptation. "Who do you expect to meet?"......HEY!!

  • June 22, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Top five generic Burton topic posts:

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    1.) What, Johnny Depp AGAIN?!<BR><BR>2.) What, Helena Bonham Carter AGAIN?!<BR><BR>3.) I'm SO sick of Danny Elfman writing the same score over and over!<BR><BR>4.) Wow, goth chicks will be ALL over this!<BR><BR>5.) Burton's ONLY good movie was Ed Wood!

  • June 22, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Nasty In The Pasty

    by kolchak

    Maybe that's because numbers 1, 2, and 4 have merit.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Spooky optical illusion in that photo.

    by Royston Lodge

    If you stare at it for too long, it seems as if the smile is slowly turning into a frown. Eep!

  • June 22, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    i am compelled to point out

    by frank cotton

    that golf is NOT a sport, it is a passtime

  • June 22, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Give it a rest NoDiggity

    by alienindisguise

    I mean do have some kind of financial investment in Drag me to Hell or something? Get off Sam Raimi's nuts, he's not that great a director. yeah I just said that.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    RE: Top five generic Burton topic posts

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I would like to add my own personal top Burton-themed posts:<P>"The hygenically impure Tim Burton..."<P>"The faux goth-camp of BATMAN..."<P>So on and so forth. Carry on.

  • June 22, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I'm really interested in this one...

    by Jaka

    ...and will pay to see it. But it does not look frightening in the slightest. It's Alice In Wonderland - we know what happens already. Ya know?

  • June 22, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    He remade PLANET OF THE APES

    by Mr Gorilla

    For that alone he should no longer be considered an artist. But that he also made a film of CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY so very inferior to the 60s one, makes this version of ALICE very unappealing. I bet half that assholes who think he's an auteur and say 'Burton this, Burton that' wouldn't even be able to name the guy who directed the 60s WONKA film - and maybe not even the original APES. This is what you get when people go 'auteur crazy' - shitheads judging stuff just from the name on the jar, not from what's inside.

  • June 22, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    who is the chick dressed up like the Mad Hatter?

    by Nizzuts

    I can tell if that is Helena Carter or Johnny Depp.

  • June 22, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Twitter Trends

    by subfreq

    By the way this is trending on Twitter it seems Burton has a lot of people interested. I guess keeping Depp in the fold has it's PR merits.

  • June 22, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Burton = style over substance

    by zooch

    Always has been.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    I don't mind the visuals, but...

    by wookie1972

    They messed with the story again, according to the article. "Girl power," indeed. Sigh.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    My big question is

    by kolchak

    how the fuck doesn't Alice remember conversing with a talking caterpillar ten years prior?

  • June 22, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    In fact, rereading the plot it sounds a lot like...

    by wookie1972

    Hook. In other words, an uneccessarily complicated version of a simple story. Why does everything have to be made "bigger" for the movie version?

  • June 22, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Interactive artwork?

    by MikeTheSpike

    Like the zoomed-in, pixellated shit that goes nuts when I put my cursor over it? No thanks.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Know what would have kicked ass? A 360 degree panoramic view.

  • June 22, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST


    by Lemure_v2

    Burton is about as unDisney as you can get. Disney would never touch a film like Beetlejuice, and they only like NBX because of all the merchandise it still spawns. Disney is a near-paedophilic american dream, Burton is on the outside looking in.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:03 p.m. CST


    by Lemure_v2

    I hear lots of whining about "Burton's just made the same film for the last 25 years" - because Sleepy Hollow and Mars Attacks are totally identical! And "all he can do are visuals". No, but it is a speciality - the forest in Sleepy Hollow was pretty fucking special. You hate Burton so why the hell would you click on a link about a Burton film if you hate Burton so much?So, hands up who here has had more success as a director/writer/producer? Who can do better? Keep those hands up, let me count... Exactly.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    even funnier, Lemure, is that those same people

    by jackknifed_juggernaut

    complaining about Burton will *still* have their collective asses in theatre seats once this releases.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Nightmare Before Chistmas is shit too

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I feel sorry for the goth kids that think that's a good movie.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    It happens in EVERY TB. You think the people bitching about Tarantino won't show up for Inglorious Basterds? Of course they will. <p> Best to just ignore it.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    The Problem Ain't Burton, It's Us.

    by Buzz Maverik

    Burton is a gifted visual artist. He's been copied so often that it is easy to forget that he is the original. He's no more a jerk for using Johnny Depp all the time as John Ford was for using John Wayne.<p>Not all of his films tell a story well. All I can figure is that he's incredibly hard to write for. Too little story and it's a mess. Too much (did CHARLIE & THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY need Willy Wonka's backstory?) and it grows pointless.<p>I feel that PEE WEE, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS, NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS, ED WOOD, SLEEPY HOLLOW, BIG FISH and CHARLIE all worked in terms of story. Didn't see PLANET O' THE APES or SWEENY TODD (although if Timmy had done a musical ape movie, I'd have been there). But oddly, my two favorite films of his are BATMAN RETURNS and MARS ATTACKS which were crap in the story department but incredible visually.<p>So why am I, and guys like me, the problem? Unless yer into filmmaking or graphic arts, why are we seeing most of this stuff? What's in it for us?<p>Who is this movie really for? I have sons and neither of them would have ever looked at this stuff and said, "Can we go see ALICE IN WONDERLAND?"<p>But let me ask you, unless yer in film school or something, are you really going to call yer buddy and say, "Hey, Bob, let's go see ALICE IN WONDERLAND"? Or are you going to take a date to see this? Don't count on getting past the front door later unless yer really good looking, in which case you are probably not reading this.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    The Drag Me To Hell Guy Has A Point

    by Buzz Maverik

    I can see getting scared a little by that, but the Mad Hatter doesn't cut it for too many people any more.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    The Tom Petty video was cooler than this

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • June 22, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    that's funny, Buzz, although i must admit...

    by jackknifed_juggernaut

    i've taken girls to see some pretty "date-unfriendly" movies and have still been able to seal the deal afterwards. i can't lie, Watchmen almost fucked it up for me, but aside from that, things tend to work themselves out regardless of the feature.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Anyone who uses the word ''churning''

    by Prossor

    Needs to be fucking thrown into a gulag.

  • June 22, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Does anyone have any good pornstars i can jack off too?

    by Prossor

  • June 22, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice

    by Jaka

    One of the best and most original films of the eighties. Burton definitely has his own style, some people love it, some people hate it. But to deny that a large majority of his films are easily recognizable as being his is kind of silly. For one thing, Johny Freaking Depp is half of 'em! lol Anyway, I'll say this for Burton - at least he keeps working, and keeps trying to make films that aren't like everybody elses. The fact that he's done this, mostly, inside of the major studio system is actually pretty commendable. <br><br> But I still don't see anything frightening in those images at all.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    You mean Depp's Hatter isn't doing it for you?

  • June 22, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    the planet of the apes remake

    by CherryValance

    I didn't hate it. I kinda liked it actually. But I didn't see that as a straight up remake. I felt that it was the events of the first film, had everything in the subsequent movies/tv shows happened. Meaning all that time traveling and whatnot would have change what happened in the first movie, so the remake was kinda that new version of the first film.</p> <p>And for the record, I'm not a Tim Burton hater. I'm fond of most of his movies. But I felt like he ruined Sweeney Todd with his need to cast Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter in everything. They couldn't handle the singing. It was bad. And with all the acting talent out there that can sing, it pissed me off. But in this case I think they should be okay. They make sense in these roles. But whatever movie is next, I think he should force himself to not use them. I have a funny feeling they'll still love him anyway.</p>

  • June 22, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Most likely a separation leading to divorce. If they attempt reconciliation I'll watch Drag Me To Hell.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    9... wow...

    by Jaka

    Just checked Timmaaaaay on the IMDb - there's a lot of cool voice talent in 9, a movie I didn't even know was being made. Pretty excited for it, now.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg


  • June 22, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    They filed for divorce this afternoon

    by kolchak

    Fuckers were so anxious to get away from each other they couldn't even wait for the episode to air.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Damn you!

  • June 22, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    I thought the announcement would be that they were getting 3G iphones.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST


    by AyatollahSexyBack

    Thank Bale.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Don't knock Drag Me To Hell

    by kolchak

    It had some really tasteful barfing sequences that were just MASTERFULLY shot.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:34 p.m. CST


    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    The guy from The Eurythmics was the hooka smoking caterpillar in the beginning of the video. Here's the you tube link.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah Petty..

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    The perfect mad hatter

  • June 22, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    I thought it was...

    by SunTzu77

    Elijah Wood at first, lol.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    You gotta give Burton credit for

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    making an ape appear sexy. You almost had some Marky Mark beastiality going on.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST


    by TITBAG


  • June 22, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST


    by TITBAG


  • June 22, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST


    by TITBAG


  • June 22, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Big Robots Hitting Each Other II>>>>THIS

    by Sal_Bando

    Gimme a break.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST


    by ZombieHeathLedger

    "you're jokin'! You're jokin' I can't believe my eyes!" Oogie Boogie. Dude, I must've watched that movie ten times, twice in the theater, once in 3D, and own the DVD. Original concept, great songs, great animation. I'll admit Burton's had some misses (Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) but TNBC ain't one of 'em. It hasn't aged at all, fresh as the day it came out more than ten years ago. Give it another try...

  • June 22, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST


    by Prossor

    I tried but i couldnt get my flaccid penis to get up, and when it did it just beat out air.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST


    by Teddy Artery

    ...but mainly hoping it's not TOO modernist for it's own good.

  • June 22, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    So Kate was fucking that Hanson guy from deadliest catch?

    by Stuntcock Mike

    "Fuck the shrimp Jon, I'm coming home with the crabs."

  • June 22, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    The most damning thing against Burton. . .

    by jimmay

    is that he hasn't done anything even remotely surprising in over a decade. Every image I've seen of this film's art direction doesn't look even vaguely different from what I expected. <p> And by all means people, if you're a Burton fan, stay the hell away from this talkback. I love Tarantino, and as such I won't step near an Inglourious Basterds thread. The negativity really is overpowering.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Looks amazing...

    by Charlie_Allnut

    Burton MAY be back in form...but we shall see. He's been slightly off for about the past ten years. willy wonka was just awful. His best movies are those which have fully developed characters and a lot of heart and Ed Wood and Edward Scissorhands. All the artwork for this looks spot on though.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Soo once again Deep wears weird costumes

    by bloodawn5

    Is it me or Deep's whole carrer is based in attach anything to his body and talk weird

  • June 22, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST


    by Six Demon Bag

    NJ REUNION!!!! tomorrow, hell yeah.

  • June 22, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    This is doing nothing for me

    by tbransonlives

    Did I grow up or has the Burton/Depp collabo gone stale?

  • June 22, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Ummm Drag Me To Hell

    by SavageJuicebox

    Was masterfully shot. Are you fucking blind? Say what you will about the story, the Directing was well played. Don't show off your crippling Down's Syndrome again.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    He has Bryce Dallas Howard's eyes, Elijah Wood's teeth,

    by jimmay

    Carrot Top's hair, and Tilda Swinton's complexion.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Kate really gets into doing it on boats

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I hear she did Mike Rowe too.

  • June 22, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Dali hasn't made a decent painting in YEARS

    by IForgotAbout19

    And can he get the fuck over the whole "Surrealism" thing? Man, museums just eat that shit up, and it's HIS FAULT. In other news, Subtitles_Off claims that filmmaking does not rely on angles...

  • June 22, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    And also. Pee-Wee?

    by IForgotAbout19

    I mean...Are we expected to believe somebody would actually be named that? COME ON HOLLYWOOD! Couldn't he have been named like..."Hunter" or...."Bryce" or something?

  • June 22, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST

    I don't remember any standout shots

    by kolchak

    in Drag me to hell. With the exception maybe of that cemetery scene, because of a) great lighting and B) how it was set up to look like a set (painted background, etc.)

  • June 22, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by BoopyBeepy

    Burton is frustrating because he seems like he should be alot cooler. But he's shitty and all his movies are ageing poorly and the ones he makes now will have no one looking back on them to check if they've aged well. It's cliche to say Ed Wood is his best but it is because its an actual movie. Ed Wood has some actual weird shit in it and good dialogue and characters. He should actually do something dark instead of faking dark. Stupid Charlie and the Chocolate factory, was that midget who played the oompa Loompa supposed to be bizarre and cool? The oompa loompa was obnoxious like the whole movie, a giant reach for something original. He has the oppurtunity to do whatever he wants in Hollywood and he chooses to continue with his boring shit.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Like I said

    by SavageJuicebox

    You're fucking blind.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Depp. Check. Danny Elfman. Check. Skeletons. Check

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Helena Bonham Carter. Check. No one gives a shit about it when it comes out? Check.

  • June 22, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Enjoy your PG-13 jump scare fests and the English remake of "Let the Right One In".

  • June 22, 2009, 11:53 p.m. CST

    He Looks Like Frodo

    by Scoob1978

    Don't let Alice touch the (cock) ring. Its reserved for Samwise.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST

    At least he has no black and white stripes.

    by mitortilla

  • June 23, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST


    by SavageJuicebox

    Enjoy not recognizing quality when you see it and enjoying one less valid thing in life. Wannabe, condescending, ass.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Not recognizing quality?

    by kolchak

    I put "Let the Right One In" in my corner. You've got a CGI goat. <p> There's nothing "valid" about movies that fail at what they're trying to do.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:31 a.m. CST

    WTF is Let the Right One in? Sounds like a Rolling Stones

    by lockesbrokenleg


  • June 23, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    My god you get dumber and dumber

    by SavageJuicebox

    YOU got Let the Right One In "In Your Corner"?! What are you fucking stupid? Not only did I never mention Let The Right One In, I never pitted it against DMTH. Get your head out of your ass.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:56 a.m. CST

    I am Legend was better than this shit

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • June 23, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST


    by GunterMonkey

    'Nuff said.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Yo yo

    by SavageJuicebox

    This kid got Let the Right One In backin' up his corner. Don't like no other movies, motherfuckers, he gonna pit'em against his winnin' bitch! Yeah you hard son.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST

    I have Police Academy 3 in my corner

    by Gwai Lo

    I can't get it out of there

  • June 23, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Gwai Lo

    by SavageJuicebox

    That Bobcat Goldthwait is a biter. Watch your hand!

  • June 23, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST

    I have Jason Takes Manhattan in my corner

    by Gwai Lo

    He punched this guy's head clean off you shoulda seen it

  • June 23, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Shit, Why did I buy the new Friday the 13th movie?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It was hot out. My brain got fried.

  • June 23, 2009, 1:35 a.m. CST

    I have Chitty Chitty Bang Bang in my corner

    by SavageJuicebox

    It's a car. That flies. And there's musical numbers. What now?

  • June 23, 2009, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I love how everyone posting is high right now

    by GunterMonkey

    Or drunk. These postings make no sense, lol

  • June 23, 2009, 1:51 a.m. CST

    I have Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans in my corner

    by Gwai Lo

    Nicholas Cage will shoot you until your soul stops dancing

  • June 23, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST

    I have Rob Zombie's Halloween in my corner

    by Gwai Lo

    It will make you less randomly evil than you were before by explaining your fucked up childhood

  • June 23, 2009, 4:01 a.m. CST

    There was a time when I thought Burton > Spielberg

    by YackBacker

    It was the late 90s, I had just seen ED WOOD and was amazed. I also thought that threesomes were a little over the top, excessive. Obviously, I have evolved and become quite distant from my views of the late 1990s...

  • June 23, 2009, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Now if only it wasn't in 3d.

    by gotilk

    Yeah. I knew your grandpa and he said the same sort of thing about color. "THOSE DAMNED HUES and TONES, it'll never catch on!! It's a FAD!"

  • June 23, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Burton is a talentless hack

    by LightninBolt

    We all know it. Big Fish is the worst, I wanted to puke. Event these images make me cringe. I'm sure this one will be the last one he does which has any interest from the public and his 'fans'.... urgh...

  • June 23, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST


    by DuhVarth

    Flabby goth bitches are going to wet their panties over this one, I've given up on Tim Burton long time ago. And yes, Ed Wood was his last good movie, and his best. I find his unique vision or costume/set design rather tired now since he's never done a fucking interesting thing with it once.

  • June 23, 2009, 6:38 a.m. CST

    why does he always, always, always have to use Depp Depp Deppp?

    by livingwater

    this this this is like the same same same movie with a different script......EVERY EVERY EVERY TIME ! ....nobody can tell him him him ???

  • June 23, 2009, 6:42 a.m. CST

    LighninBolt- BIG FISH does NOT suck

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    Maybe it's just my own personal prejudice though. I saw that movie after my Dad had died and I had no idea what BIG FISH was about going in, and I was balling like a baby by the end of the movie. In a way it really helped me process my loss. I've seen it since sans emotional baggage and it still holds up as an amazingly imaginatave adventure almost like an old Danny Kaye movie.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Here's my opinion that no one asked for

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Johnny Depp one of the greatest actors of his generation? Yeah, but he was held back so long by?????????<br> <br> Tim Burton <br> <br> We all know after the Pirates press that Depp likes to go all out with his characters. Has he proven that to be a good thing? I saw Public Enemies last Friday at an AICN screening and it was a huge reminder of how great of an actor Depp really is. Is it cool to every now and again watch him go all out? Yes and no. Depp needs to be controlled a little bit or else what we're left with is that horrendous child-molester Willy Wonka that shit all over Gene Wilder's genius. <br> <br> The same goes for Burton. Think of his best movies, or...really his only good movies. We Have Pee Wee, Beetlejuice, and Ed Wood. Pee Wee, yes it had Burton's touch but it was before Burton started sitting in the corner masturbating all day to his "odd, eerie visions." Same goes for Beetlejuice, it was a good, maybe great movie that was made around Burton's vision. It wasn't a vision that spawned a movie, which is what he's been giving us since. <br> <br> With the exception of Ed Wood. I don;t think too may people argue that Wood ishis best film. It's just a great movie, and again, it had Burton's touch, but it was simple, not over the top. <br> <br> The Burton vision culminated with the Wonka movie, that was the movie where he and Johnny Depp just ejaculated all over the screen and what a mess it was. <br> <br> Depp is a great actor with good ideas but he needs someone to reign him in at times. Yet, he gravitates to Burton because Burton lets him sit in the corner with him and yank it. <br> <br> The vision is old and tired, it always just looks like the same mess in every movie. Lately, I find his films unwatchable. You know what? I forgot about Big Fish; great movie. AND IT LACKED BURTON's MASTURBATORY STYLE!!!! Ya see? <br> <br> Maybe after having an orgasm all over the screen after Wonka, Burton can reign it in, maybe he can put a handle on his "vision," but it seems he's still letting Depp go over the top. The character doesn't look good. If they're going for scary, doesn't fit. If not, well...I don;t know the character just looks like shit to me. The set designs do look Burton-ized but Alice maybe can handle that. I'm thinking that now that Burton has blown his nuts all over the place with Wonka, maybe...just maybe...he can finally make the movie that he's had that vision for all of these years. Perhaps then he can justify using it in almost every movie he's ever made.

  • June 23, 2009, 7:38 a.m. CST

    RIP Ed McMahon

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    confirmed on CNN

  • June 23, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST


    by kolchak

    Chitty Chitty Bang Bang kicks DM2H's ass. It's scarier and funnier when it wants to be.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    As for Burton

    by kolchak

    It's a fucking joke to say that he's a hack when there's a TB about Rob Zombie going on. It's not even close.

  • June 23, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    I dunno...

    by ScottinDC

    My problem with Tim Burton is he only has HIS vision of the world (which we're invited to see again and again and it always looks pretty much the same) but he almost never explores ours. I still think his best work was Ed Wood...though Edward Scissorhands was interesting (but I LOATHED Beetlejuice...terribly overrated movie).

  • June 23, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    We've all overlooked

    by kolchak

    Frankenweenie. Remember that one?

  • June 23, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Burton is not perfect, but he's not a hack....

    by Orbots Commander way. Does he overindulge on the 'vision' thing, at the expense of story? Yeah. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is likely his worst movie to day, after Planet of the Apes. Burton is at his best when he brings his over the top style to the modern world or day to day events. See: Big Fish and Ed Wood. <p> It should have been Burton who directed Benjamin Button and not David Fincher; that would have been perfectly in his wheelhouse. I think ALICE will be another excuse for Burton to again go way overboard on the vision thing.

  • June 23, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Big Fish was great.

    by gotilk

    Holds up well. Underrated.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Only Burton films I've genuinely disliked were . . .

    by Royston Lodge

    . . . Sleepy Hollow & Corpse Bride.<p> Sleepy Hollow lacked any ambiguity. It would have been way better if it had ended with Ichabod still debating in his own mind if the events were truly supernatural or merely a hoax.<p> The plot for Corpse Bride seemed too "paint-by-numbers". There was no real tension or suspense.<p> Every other single Burton flick has entertained me. Some are better than others, sure. But all of 'em are good.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    ZombieHeathLedger: Great point on Big Fish

    by Royston Lodge

    I've never thought of it that way, but you're right that it's a lot like an old Danny Kaye movie.

  • June 23, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Jaka - Where have you been?

    by frozen01

    If you didn't know "9" was being made, then you haven't been to a movie theater in months. The trailer's been playing in front of half of the movies out there... you can't miss it, especially considering it used the most dramatic string parts of Coheed and Cambria's "Welcome Home"... a real attention-grabber. <p>But yeah, it looks good.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST


    by TITBAG

  • June 23, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Jon and Kate Plus Eight

    by frozen01

    Who the hell cares? Boohoo, they're getting a divorce, like millions of other Americans. Oh, no, they have 8 children! And they wonder why their marriage didn't work? <p>We need to stop glorifying baby factories. You, too, can be on TV if you pop out a litter and ruin your marriage! Is that really the message we want to send?

  • June 23, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    frozen01, not sure...

    by Jaka I missed it, either! I don't hit the theater weekly anymore, but I've been at least once a month for the last few. Just saw The Hangover and didn't catch the trailer if it was attached to that film.

  • June 23, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    How could anyone loath Beetlejuice?

    by Jaka

    I mean, cool, that's your opinion. But could you give a reason for the loathing?

  • June 23, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Right, let's get specific, then.

    by Sepulchrave

    This marketing campaign is a carbon copy of the one for Charlie and The Chocolate Factory: big high-res and lurid portrait shots of the main players accentuating their make-up against a slightly psychadelic backdrop. Depp looks like Wonka in every way; the palette is just different and he has scary contacts in. Hathaway is clearly standing in for Lisa Marie: Burton's glacial fairy princess figure. This will be a retread. everything about it feels overwhelmingly familiar. It will be as flossy and sweet as cotton candy and about as filling.

  • June 23, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Amen Sepulchrave

    by Gwai Lo

  • June 23, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    like almost every other Burton movie

    by Genre_Baby

    I'll pass. The digital warping of the characters is an extra strike against.

  • June 24, 2009, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Burton's Batmans are more watchable than Nolans

    by Prossor

    At least Burton HAD a style and take on it. Nolan is void of anything, bland and boring.

  • June 28, 2009, 3:29 a.m. CST


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  • July 2, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Sweeney Todd is Burton's muscial version of Sleepy Hollow

    by Waff

    It's amazing to me that the man that created three of my favorite movies of all time (Ed Wood, PWBA, and Beetlejuice) also created three of my most hated (Sweeney, POTA and CATCF). I have little confidence that this movie will appeal to me but will wait for the trailer to make my final judgment. Aside from Alice, these character shots are awful.