June 19, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST
Looks fairly generic to me
June 19, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST
When are they going reboot this? 3 years?
June 19, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST
Not even a little
June 19, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST
Are you guys not posting Transformers reviews? <p> The movie came out in Europe today so I'm sure you must be getting reviews in. I sent one to Harry 6 hours ago and I'm guessing that a few more sent some in as well but so far there's nothing gone up. <p> I'm just wondering if there's an embargo on posting any reviews until the US release or if you are simply waiting until you get a few more in.
June 19, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST
Like fuck she did.
June 19, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST
And understandable concern, considering that the bag of shit "zombie" already revealed that his non-Myers will wear the mask for 25% of this "film", and will look exactly like zombitch himself in the rest of the footage.
June 19, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST
Season of the Witch, hellz yeah! Best HALLOWEEN ever!
June 19, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST
But EXTREME suckage is good!
June 19, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST
We just got in our first contributor review, from Latauro in Australia. That'll post tonight. We got some reader reviews, but honestly most of the reviews were links to people's personal blogs and stuff, which we don't really link to for reviews of movies a week or so out. The AICN crew see the movie very soon, so we'll be hitting with our opinions very soon.
June 19, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST
Ok that's cool. Mine was written in the email to Harry, no links whatsoever. <p> I'll be interested to read the opinions from you guys. I can sum up my own thoughts in one word - painful. <p> Anyways back on topic...uh...Halloween...um...scary, no?
June 19, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST
June 19, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST
I've defended strongly by love of House of 1,000 Corpses, and I'm also a Devils Rejects fan despite my preference of his first film...but his Halloween really would have been better as its own movie. Referencing the Myers named disrupted my mythos. It was like seeing Vader as a little kid all over again. That said, I'll see this one...and I have to agree...the crazier and more bizarre the better.
June 19, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST
And not H2. This at least has the chance to be better than the first sequel.
June 19, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST
Why bring back the "sister" retcon from the sequels? It's like Zombie went out of his way to make how Halloween movies as contrived as possible.
June 19, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST
June 19, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST
has to be in every movie of his.
June 19, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST
he doesn't get poonany.
June 19, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST
Bring it on, Rob.
June 19, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST
God damn - let's be real here!
June 19, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST
ummm...Zombie already debunked the "70% no-mask" rumor months ago. Way to stay on top there, sparky.
June 19, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST
by Dr. Samuel Loomis
June 19, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST
does it look like the girl is giving him a b-job to anyone else? the thought popped into my head, and now i'm really disturbed by this poster. can't say that's the direction i want this movie to take...
June 19, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST
June 19, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST
He jest a child o' the corn
June 19, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST
Total throwback to 80s horror. Whether the movie is crap or not, that's a great poster.
June 19, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST
Kids in the Barley.
June 19, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST
by Raging Dogs Productions
I know I stand alone (here) on this, but I loved his remake. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the original original, but looking back on it now, the pacing tends to be slow. I feel like he got rid of all those parts and replaced them cool shit. Alright, I said my peace, let the bashing commence.
June 19, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST
Mortal Kombat Forever. Hey, wasn't there some dream project of a fighting game in the works where you could play as an iconic Horror movie character (Freddy, Michael, Jason, Ash, Chucky, Pinhead, etc.)?<P> Because I want that game. <P> Think of the finishing moves...
June 19, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST
What the fuck does that mean?
June 19, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
I really wish he had made Tyrannosaurus Rex. 51% Motherfucker, 49% Sonofabitch. Has a better tagline ever existed for a movie?
June 19, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
I really hope that they remake Halloween III: Season of the Witch after this one. Now that people have finally gotten over it being the Myersless sequel, and accepted it for the pure awesome that it is. Zombie can even direct, it's better suited to his sensibilities than Myers is. Also Tom Atkins needs to reprise his role. His sexual liason with a twentysomething hottie will be even creepier this time around.
June 19, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST
His last two knocked it out of the park. TOP horror director right now.
June 19, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST
June 19, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST
Well at least one person will.
June 19, 2009, 6:38 p.m. CST
I'm so glad it's called Halloween 2 and not H2! I'm so sick of T2, X2, ID4, H2O (Halloween Water for crying out loud!)
June 19, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST
You mean like maybe NOT remaking Carpenter's version? That would have been pretty far away,
June 19, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST
Which is not saying a lot about the horror genre.
June 19, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST
by Dr. Samuel Loomis
June 19, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST
...but I've got a gut feeling this is gonna be good. I've no idea why.
June 19, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
Agreed. I'm also glad that this isn't the Rise of something. H2: the Rise of Laurie Strode.
June 19, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST
June 19, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST
Like the first one. I'll wait for this to become a channel flipper.
June 19, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST
I blame it on getting married
June 19, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
Besides almost everything? The tagline. Like I said earlier, Tyrannosaurus Rex had an awesome tagline. "Family is Forever." YAAWWWWN. Surely we as talkbackers can get more creative than that. How about "PURE EVIL. I HAS IT."?
June 19, 2009, 7:09 p.m. CST
If that was cleavage or an ass crack in the poster instead of a knife wielding maniac they certainly never would have approved it. How fucked up is our society when Rob Zombie gets an R rating but John Waters gets an X?
June 19, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST
that in House of 1000 Corpses Sheri Moon was really good, but in The Devil's Rejects she sucked ass! (The only bad part of that movie btw) I said once I'll say it again, husbands can not direct their wives, with of course for a very few exceptions. Very few. Miniscule.
June 19, 2009, 7:25 p.m. CST
Honey, let's go rent Halloween II. You know, the one with Jamie Lee Curtis in it. Hey WTF is this shit? There's no Jamie Lee Curtis!!
June 19, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST
I got to be a part of this. It was insane. The "Family is Forever" Tagline reminds me of "The Saw Is Family"<P> Myer's wears several masks in this one. That's one thing no one really knows about. What I'm liking the most, given what little knowledge I have about what they filmed. Theres no more reused or reworked scenes. Rob finally figured it out. This time he really did make his own version of that world. He didn't ape one thing. Now about these Jason Mom comments. Jason's mother never fucking did that shit!!! Ginny pretended to be her in part 2. She wore her sweater and she commanded Jason to stop. Jason's mother doesn't show back up in a commanding fashion again until Freddy Vs Jason, and it was Freddy in Disguise. <P> So Jason's Mom never told him to do shit. She was never following him as he killed or anything like that. Never not once. Other fuckers played with Jason's head pretending to be her. So I wish all those fans out there who keep saying that this shit is just Like "Friday the 13th's Jason's Mother Pam" would shut the fuck up!!! <P> I'm just happy that Rob stopped reusing stuff from the original and he came up with something he most certainly can call his own this time. The original exist. Why even try to make it again and then, when you actually do. Why tell the same fucking story? That shit is boring. It's a cover song. Most cover songs suck! <P> I like this, it's like Universals Dracula vs Hammers Dracula or maybe even so far apart thematically, that it's more like Dracula vs Blackula. This is what all the studios and creatives should do with remakes. Keep the theme and tell a completely different story. I'm so tired of rewatching, refried shit that's really the same shit I already watched before. Homages, scene replays and requoted dialog is lazy and boring! It will be nice if they can keep this thing hush hush till it comes out on aug 28th. They should really try as hard as they can to not prescreen it with a test audience. The magic of selling this film this time is not letting the people and the fans know what it's all about or who it unfolds. Do the W's have the balls to do it? I don't know but it would be the wisest, smartest thing for them to do at this point.
June 19, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST
Here is the fighting game Chucky ,Freddy,Ash,Maniac Cop ect the demo is pretty cool http://www.terrordrome-thegame.com/
June 19, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST
You know if Rob really wanted to call this his own, how about starting with the title so people won't confuse this piece of shit with a classic.
June 19, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST
Rob Zombie breathed some much needed fresh air into a character on life support. The same can be said about Nolan's Batman And JJ's Star Trek, They were both excellent Re-boots but done differently from what was laid out before them. , <p> I watched it a few times and walked away from it feeling indifferent but then I had to be honest about it, Rob did a damn good job, It was disturbing at times and fucked up others, but the one thing it wasn't was boring, looking forward to how Zombies' H2 finishes.
June 19, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST
June 19, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST
and I wasn't very happy with it as a complete film, but there are moments in that remake that I do like.<P> Truth be told- It wouldn't have mattered who made the film or how closely it resembled the original. It still can't be the original movie or as great. <P> Most of the remakes that are better than the originals, are such, because they avoided retelling the story beat for beat, scene for scene, character for character. They told a new story containing the same themed elements. <P> Scarface, The Thing, The Fly are such examples. Are those moveis the same damn movies before them. No!!!! It's suicide to think that reusage in remakes is the working formula to success. <P> Part of The original remakes failure was related to reusing the same plot points used in the original, and then it really fucked itself in the ass after Myers escaped, because the story was almost beat for beat, with the the same damn scenes from the original cranked up to 11 with some slight and I mean slight reworkings made to them. <P> I'd much rather see remakes that keep the "Theme" (Ala "Nightmare On Elm Street" Man kills people in their sleep) but tells an entirely different story. <P>I don't know about you, but I go to movies hoping to see something I've never seen before. Something that challenges my opinions and views while keeping me in suspense and entertaining me. It's one of the reasons I'm pissed off with the new Nightmare remake. That shit was phoned in. It's like the writer based his entire screenplay for it on a collection of crib notes someone else took after watching the original. Theres just enough seperation that it's not an exact telling of the same damn story, but not enough to make it something worthy of watching. Cause you've already seen it. So whats the fucking point!
June 19, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST
What's up? Are you people easily entertained or what?
June 19, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST
and I wasn't very happy with it as a complete film, but there are moments in that remake that I do like.<P> Truth be told- It wouldn't have mattered who made the film, or how closely it resembled the original. It still can't be the original movie or as great. <P> Most of the remakes that are better than the originals, are such, because they avoided retelling the story beat for beat, scene for scene, character for character. They told a new story containing the same themed elements. Scarface, The Thing, and The Fly are good examples. Are those movies the same damn movies before them. No!!!! It's suicide to think that reusage in remakes is the working formula to success. <P> Part of the original remakes failure was related to reusing the same plot points used in the original, and then it really fucked itself in the ass after Myers escaped, because the story was almost beat for beat, using the same damn scenes from the original cranked up to 11 with some slight and I mean slight reworkings made to them. <P> I'd much rather see remakes that keep the "Theme" (Ala "Nightmare On Elm Street" Man kills people in their sleep) but tells an entirely different story. <P> I don't know about you, but I go to movies hoping to see something I've never seen before. Something that challenges my opinions and views, while keeping me in suspense and entertaining me. It's one of the reasons I'm pissed off with the new Nightmare remake. That shit was phoned in. It's like the writer based his entire screenplay for it on a collection of crib notes someone else took after watching the original. There's just enough seperation that it's not an exact telling of the same damn story, but not enough to make it something worthy of watching. Cause you've already seen it. So what's the fucking point!
June 19, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST
... must admit the artist for this did a good job. Unfortunately Zombie still sucks.
June 19, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST
Is what Rob should have made. I'm not knocking Season of the Witch, but I would like to know what happened to Michael while he was on hiatus, not what he had for breakfast growing up.
June 19, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
I agree with some of what you're saying, but I think the three examples you cited as successful remakes were more readily reworkable than Halloween. Not only were the originals pretty old and dated, they weren't burdened with the same type of iconography that Halloween was/is. Carrot man from Thing From Another World wasn't THE singular vision of the monster from Who Goes There, there was room to tell the story in a way that was closer to the source. With Halloween, Carpenter's original WAS the singular vision. There was no room to improve, anywhere in the material. There was no theme that could have been better explored or adapted to a new director's sensibilities, a la The Fly. There wasn't an absence of style there for a master craftsman to exploit, a la Scarface. Halloween is not dated at all, it still holds up just fine. All Zombie did was bring a hillbilly flavor and that whole modern grime aesthetic. Oh, and humanity to Myers, which most people agree was just kind of out of place. I agree with the general sentiment that there are enough movie killers out there with mommy issues and histories of abuse, it's not fresh or exciting to see a Great White Shark like Myers explained with a shopworn backstory. He doesn't need the audience to empathize with him. I liked it when Zombie made us empathize with the Devil's Rejects, but with Myers it just felt like a device. I still think he has chops as a filmmaker (anyone who doubts this should at least watch the Making Of documentary on the Devil's Rejects DVD) but he's already straying into self parody and he's only on his fourth feature. Still crossing my fingers that I like this movie, but things look grim...
June 19, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST
by Underoos Hero
I was part of the scene in H2 called the "Haddonfield's 4th Annual Phantom Jam." There were 200 of us there dressed in Halloween costumes as Haddonfield residents. The filming took place in Covington Georgia inside of an old feed warehouse that was converted into a very large, very cool bar and club complete with giant paintings of devils and massive props. We were to pretend as though we were digging the band that was performing on stage called Captain Clegg and the Night Creatures. I stood behind RZ at around 1:30 in the morning and watched him direct a few scenes involving one of the main actress' dressed as the main dude from the Rocky Horror picture show. I got to meet Tyler Mane and talk to some of the FX crew. The two days that were there were awesome. I can tell you that the movie is going to be very fucking trippy and very odd. We were also part of a sequence in the club where the lead actress Scout Talyor was hallucinating or drunk on something and saw images of a young Michael and Adult michael coming for her ass. So yes we got to meet the little kid playing the new child Myers. I have two days worth of stories to tell really. Some may be considered spoilers. I have to run but if you guys are interested I'll post more of what I saw.
June 19, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST
The one thing that was amazing about the original was that there was no blood in the entire movie and it is probably the greatest slasher film ever. <p> I like that Zombie went away from making a complete frame by frame remake (Psycho) and created his own genre. At least For the first 45 minutes or so, I had no idea what the hell was going to happen next and (To me) because of that it was very effective. <p> Think about it, we could've easily gotten Halloween X or some other bullshit with a rapper in it. Instead they brought along somebody who tried something different.
June 19, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST
Fuck Rob and Sheri Moon Zombie.
June 19, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST
Rob Zombie should be kicked in the nuts repeatedly.<p> Have some fucking integrity Zombie and create your own fucking horror antagonist, with their own mythos, instead of bastardizing and riding the coat tails of others creative works.<p>
June 19, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST
is the reason for him killing?THIS ISN`T FRIDAY THE 13TH,AND HE ISN`T JASON YOU STUPID HACK FUCK!
June 19, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST
by Yoda's Ball Sack
"Rob honey, I need to be in another movie before my boobs start to go south" "Ok Sherri...........guess I'll have to do that Halloween 2 movie......bitch"
June 19, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST
He did, Otis Driftwood, and he was 10 kinds of awesome. Rather than milking the franchise for 8 films he killed him in the 2nd one and moved on.
June 19, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST
"create your own fucking horror antagonist"<p> He did, Otis Driftwood, and he was 10 kinds of awesome. Rather than milking the franchise for 8 films he killed him in the 2nd one and moved on.<p> Wasn't talking about "Corpses" or "Rejects" and without delving into the + and - of each films merits, he at least deserves credit for some originality.<p> Not so for his fucking ass raping of Halloween and Michael Myers.<p> Sure, the original, while not an "untouchable" work of cinematic art, was never the less an iconic moment in American horror movie history, and deserved better than the hackneyed stupidity Zombie foisted upon it's name.<p>
June 19, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST
That's exactly why i call bullshit on this.I always loved the fact there was no rhyme or reason behind michaels madness.He's pure evil.This just seems like a cheap attempt to give his wife a role.i think zombies movies are not very good.devils rejects was a piece of shit in my book.especialy thee ending.
June 19, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST
is this cool news. Blow me, Zombie!
June 19, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST
Agree 100%<p> Myers was soulless and emotionless.<p> A black empty pit.... A literal single celled harbinger of death. <p> Zombie turned him into a white trash brat with a horrible home life, and infuses him with a Anthony Perkins complex.<p> Carpenter's Myers killed because he simply "was" Zombie's Myers kills "because of"<p>
June 19, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST
by Anal Inflictor
I want to to pound Sherri Moon's ass like an atom-smasher. She is still absolutely stunning. Just parade her around and I'm there.
June 19, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST
They should have called it Creepy: The kid who like to make mask! <p> Then everyone would talk about how great it was!
June 19, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST
by Anal Inflictor
June 19, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST
And they whined about the $20 they spent on designing this piece of shit. My God, every one skip this please. The Studio and financiers who made this shit happen need to lose every dollar a million times over that they invested into this crap. It's the only way they will ever learn. Those fuckers need to be hung from their necks, starting with Rob Zombie himself.
June 19, 2009, 10:28 p.m. CST
"The Bible says two men ought not lay together. But I don't reckon the Good Lord would send anybody like you to Hades." -KarL hahaha! ought not lay together! hahaha! To Hades!..LOL!
June 19, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST
if he took the first half and took it to the end as an original story. I thought it was pretty effective until it became the Halloween remake. After he killed Bubba Brownlee at the truck stop the movie turned to shit. If it had just been the story of a young killer in the making not named Michael Meyers it could have been good. Devil's Rejects is a great recent horror flick though, the guy has potential.
June 19, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST
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June 19, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST
by otm shank
but that Halloween remake was awful. It had no soul. The entire time I watched I kept thinking how much more enjoyable the original was.
June 19, 2009, 11:17 p.m. CST
compared to some of the other recent horror remakes. The TCM remake was worse for me. Haven't seen the Friday remake yet. The Fog remake has to be one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
June 19, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST
by alice 13
wtf is that about?<p>and that poster really sucks. <p>it looks more like myers is a jason poser. <p>and my photoshop does rain better than that.
June 19, 2009, 11:34 p.m. CST
Which surprised me as I love the original, but by the time I caught it on cable last week, my expectations could not have been lower. 1000 Corpses is a shameless but fun exploitation flick, and I loved Rejects, maybe the best American horror film of the 00s. Halloween suffered by working over the white trash ground Zombie loves to travel, which is always the danger of a fan making a remake or sequel - they make what THEY liked (or imagined) about the source, rather than being able to step back and see what EVERYONE appreciated (see also Superman Returns). However, by using the Halloween framework - Loomis, the mask, the music- I think it elevated what Zombie might have done on his own. Now that we are officially moving off of sacred ground and into new territory, I'm curious to see what he can deliver.
June 19, 2009, 11:58 p.m. CST
Was one of the most disturbing scenes I've ever seen In any Halloween movie, I must admit I got hooked into it from there. Right up until when it started paying homage to John Carpenter's original. Even still I liked what he was doing with it. If this movie was any thing else but a "Halloween" movie I think it would have been better received.
June 20, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST
June 20, 2009, 12:03 a.m. CST
This is absurd. There was no HINT of supernatural power in Myers in Zombies remake...Mikey was just a mute killer...who got shot at point blank range in the face...how exactly do you bring Myers back?
June 20, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST
"Zombie should retire" "He ruined the franchise" BTW this is not a remake this is his own vision a completely original Halloween film. Id like to see you cunts make your own Halloween instalment that beats Zombies version. Oh wait you cant your to busy on your knees in front Of Harry's wheelchair while he is bashing the movie before it comes out.
June 20, 2009, 12:33 a.m. CST
That dumb cunt ruined Rob Zombie/White Zombie. Every album he put out since fucking her has sucked
June 20, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST
I wish RZ had dialed down the trailer park stuff in the first one. After going opening night for the first one, I'll wait for the video on this.
June 20, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST
It was already ruined about 20 years ago when they did the first Halloween II
June 20, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST
Take that, Lisa.
June 20, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST
i hope they did some sort of free competition for this cos that looks like some fucking basic ps shit
June 20, 2009, 2:27 a.m. CST
He just lit it on fire then shit on it.
June 20, 2009, 3:55 a.m. CST
I've a special melty mask for Mr Z to try out this Halloween season.
June 20, 2009, 4:01 a.m. CST
Or is this going to be genius. Personaly, I liked some of the remake (I liked the grudgy look and we got to see Danille Harris's boobies!), but it was't a patch on the brilliant Carpenter classic. However, for the sequel, it looks like Rob Zombie has come up with something totally fucking insane! Michael is back from the dead and is being haunted by visions of his dead mommy who is telling him to kill his baby sister so they can all go to hell together! How fucked up is that! This movie looks like its actually set on Halloween night - unlike the first one, and being a bit fan of the Halloween season, I'm looking forward to this movie, but not as much as I am 'Trick R Treat' which comes out on Blu Ray in October!!! 4 more months to Halloween, Halloween, 4 more months to Halloween, Silver Shamone Rock!!!
June 20, 2009, 4:13 a.m. CST
Are you really complaining that Rob Zombie made a remake, where he made things different than the original? Not to mention that the mythology was already damaged when part 5 of the ORIGINAL series hit theatres!
June 20, 2009, 4:14 a.m. CST
..for the climactic ending of this one since The Devil's Rejects uses the entire fucking "Free Bird" from Lynyrd Skynyrd to turn the end into a giant anti-hero music video. How about "Gimme Three Steps" as the main chick is running for her life?
June 20, 2009, 4:25 a.m. CST
by Mr. Zeddemore
Don't get me wrong, it sucked. But a RE-IMAGINING ISN'T MEANT TO BE A SCENE FOR SCENE STEAL. He was right to make the changes. <p> Christ, Harry would say something that dumb, but you Quint - you're literate and on the ball. Surely you'd prefer he change things up, rather than do a Van Sant and flat-out shoot every scene exactly as it previously was.
June 20, 2009, 4:55 a.m. CST
I love all this talk of Zombie ruining the "franchise." <p>Have you clowns never seen a HALLOWEEN sequel? All of which were shit. Though HALLOWEEN 4 has its merits.
June 20, 2009, 5:08 a.m. CST
by barnaby jones
I live in the UK and the movie has been out a couple days already. Everything you already know is true, it's exactly like the original only shiter, i know i didn't think was possible either !
June 20, 2009, 6:55 a.m. CST
by Mavra Chang
June 20, 2009, 7:17 a.m. CST
seriously. he must be stopped.
June 20, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST
who makes these posters ? The font can be found for free on any font website, MAJOR SUCKAGE
June 20, 2009, 7:35 a.m. CST
Kevin Costner, Kevin Coster, Kevin Costner. . . a ha ha-HA ha. . . both of you still get money to make dogshit movies. . . they're epic, they're big, they're self-aggrandizing. . . they're *gasp* they same tired shit that you're ALWAYS turned out. Rob, you're such a Kevin Costner.
June 20, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST
by Kid Z
...Pratt Institute. Must have been before I was there, though because I don't remember any hulking dreadlocked dudes with chunky mud smeared all over them who were way too enamored of Ed "Big Daddy" Roth. ( We did have a guy named Gus who got kicked out of the dorm and squatted in an abandoned warehouse a few blocks away and who, because of a lack of proper bathroom facilities and running water, developed a crust of dirt and sweat and hence became darker and smellier as the semester progressed.) Ah, college!
June 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST
by Turd Furgeson
He didn't remake the first one, he just took a copy of the disk outside, dropped his pants, took a shit on it,then tried to sell it to the public and his "Vision." What a joke. This douchebag has as much vision and creativity as my dog. This will be by far the worst movie of the year and probably even worse than the abortion that is "Rob Zombie's Halloween." Guy goes from making crap music to crap movies to crap remakes. What's next Rob? You going to start painting? Your art will probably resemble what my 3 year old makes or what I leave in the toilet every morning. Fuck off.
June 20, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST
I am a HUGE fan of Carpenter's work. The Thing is one of my favorite films of all time. I love most of his filmography. BUT... That said I think Carpenter's Assault On Precinct 13 is considerably better than the first Halloween. The original Halloween just wasn't scary to me. It had some atrocious acting and very slow pacing. Some of it is downright cheesy and not in a good way. I respect the influence it has had on the horror genre but it most certainly isn't Carpenter's best which I would rank in this order: The Thing, Assault On Precinct 13, Big Trouble In Little China, They Live, Escape From New York and In The Mouth Of Madness. I like The Fog and a few others I'm probably forgetting. But Halloween just didn't cut it for me. It ain't no Texas Chainsaw. Hooper knocked that early horror masterpiece out of the park. Zombie's Halloween was extremely entertaining. He had better pacing, Brad Dourif and Malcom fucking McDowell as Loomis. And Sheri Moon is not only hot but an underrated actress. So all the Zombie haters need to shut the fuck up. I bet the sequel is going to be great!
June 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST
at least one of the things.... Myers isn't a huge hulk. He's a normally set guy. And as far as I'm concerned, that makes him scarier than him being played by some big wrestler. Getting this wrong makes it impossible to nail anything else in the film.
June 20, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST
Terrible Idea! <P> Seriously, Micheal Meyers doesn't need a backstory. It's only cool BECAUSE he's a normal kid with a normal family. Change that and you ruin everything. Oops, Rob Zombie already did that.
June 20, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST
Amen. <P> The funny thing is, even tho I didn't really like his earlier efforts, I always thought, "Give this guy an existing franchise and he'll knock it out of the park." Good God was I wrong. Maybe he should've gotten the F13 remake, since he's obviously got mother issues.
June 20, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST
You're silly. Were you actually born in the same year as me? <P> Cuz it don't show.
June 20, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST
This is movie I want to see most this year... Myers is back... The first sucked balls (even though the director's cut was was SO MUCH better and helped reaffirm why I don't go the movies any more) BUT THIS, THIS LOOKS JUST (as Jiff would say) ...AAAAAAWESOME!
June 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST
I adore horror movies. And the original Halloween is my favorite horror movie of all time. I really enjoyed Zombie's remake and I am really looking forward to this one. I like adding the backstory and I thought the casting was great. I am also a big fan of Zombie's other movies and his music. Not to mention Sherri is a sexy beyoootch.. Can't wait for Halloween II.
June 20, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
I don't remember Nick Castle playing "The Shadow". I'm pretty sure Alec Baldwin played him. Although, at 5'10, I'm sure you're right about Castle being the "tallest person they could" find to "portrait" The Shape.
June 20, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST
Okay, I guess I wasn't clear. Regardless of how tall he actually was in the original, that was never played up and grossly overused. The mask, the overalls - both added to the nebulous nature of him, making him more scary for me. You don't need to use the height - like zombie is doing - as an additional way to scare people. It's not his height or strength that makes him scary.
June 20, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST
by Dr Gregory House
by Molly Hatchet! Gotta use that at some point.
June 20, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST
...flick that has me interested.<p> <p> http://tinyurl.com/deupdr<p> <p> Yeah, it's probably cliche, but I'll be damned if it doesn't look fun.<p> <p> "The Final Destination" & "Halloween 2" trailers preview stuff just left me cold.
June 20, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST
...I'm addicted to the Halloween series. I have no idea why, really, seeing as only one(maybe two) of the series' films are of any artistical or analytical merit. But since the age of 6 or 7, when I first saw the original, I've been hooked. I own every single one of them on DVD, including 3 versions of the original, the tin-box version of "return," and the producer's cut of "curse." I had a LOT of problems with Zombie spitting in the face of Carpenter's original when I first saw it, but its grown on me in subsequent viewings. The only thing I can't really get past is the horrible casting and performance by McDowell; should've been Brian Cox. In summation, anything with Michael Myers in it will have my $10. And then 4 months after that, it will have my $21 for the DVD. i'm a tool like that.
June 20, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST
Can we STOP with the stupid quizzes and games? Mafia game. What a joke. I typed I found a cue ball. WOW! GOOD FOR YOU!!!
June 20, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST
Shit, he should be John Connor, Indiana Jones and a Transformer.
June 20, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST
And I've loathed because I thought you couldn't go wrong with any of them. Rob Zombie's Halloween and X-Men Origins: Wolverine
June 20, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST
Should have stopped at #2, which wasn't perfect by any stretch, but at least it was the logical conclusion to the single story. #3 was fun, taking on its own and not within the franchise.<p> <p> The rest... for me to poop on.<p> <p> I think that modern horror has to stop emulating the "smarts" of the 1st "Scream" or the torture porn of "Saw". Instead, it has to find that happy middle ground.<p> <p> The characters and plot can't be mindless, but they can't be simple suspense thrillers. The kills have to be nice & scary, but have to have some meaning and carry some weight. I mean, really. How many Nightmare on Elm Street fans were truly pissed off that the killed Nancy at the end of Dream Warriors? Even the deaths of some of the kids there had some weight too since small layers of depth were added to them.<p> <p> Then, in the other camp, you look at Zombie's flick or any of the later NoES or Jason movies and all of the kids look like "meat for the beast" instead of people.<p> <p> Horror needs a reinvention..... AGAIN. The lessons of old school horror aren't dead. They've just been buried under the weight of "one-up"manship, with each flick trying to be more gruesome or mock smart than the competition.
June 20, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST
It's ALL the same stories. It needs some fresh blood. The independent horror guys are doing far more to advance horror than these shitty wannabe blockbusters.
June 20, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST
by Peter Franks
What? Carpenter's not dead? Well...um...he should be. How about actually CREATING something original, Rob? You fucking talentless hack. Do us all a favor and leave John Carpenter's work alone. Your films suck almost as hard as your music. Dragula, my ass.
June 20, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
The problem, as usual, is that studios understand dollars and not stories. Thus, they endlessly imitate, remake and sequelize popular horror films instead of recognizing that fans love the ORIGINALS for a reason: quality storytelling. You can't blame the overall shittiness of modern horror on specific trends, the problem is that the genre is more popular than ever before. If you look at the golden age of horror, the seventies and early eighties in my opinion, horror was regarded by critics and audiences as the red-headed stepchild of cinema. A lot of the people making it had real artistic convictions, or they would have chosen a more legitimate genre to work in. Nowadays studios know they can rule the box office for a weekend with the name brand cache of a Texas Chain Saw Massacre or a Halloween or a Friday the 13th, so they set to work xeroxing the classics for the Twitter generation. Makes me sick, because I know that there are original writers out there fighting hard to get their work read. I'm one of them, goddammit.
June 20, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST
by Mr. Zeddemore
Most of Carpenter's work is strongly based on earlier Westerns, and The Thing is a remake. Granted his stuff IS better than the Halloween remake, but he wasn't fucking inventing it out of thin air.
June 20, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST
Zombie has found his knucklehead audience as evidenced by some of the talkbackers in here.
June 20, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST
When the casting of McDowell was announced, I was actually in favor. It was a bit outside the box, and McDowell can be very effective when given good material(which, by all means, the character of Loomis has). If there was any part of his performance that I DID enjoy, it was the Smith's Grove scenes with him and young Michael. Those scenes showed a genuine, caring, and almost "father figure" type that really wanted to help Michael. But after Michael's escape, the characterization just goes to hell. Granted, a lot of this is the script's fault. But it doesn't help that McDowell admittedly never saw the original, and decided to take his own approach... which manifested itself into that weird, greedy, book-deal-mongering version of Loomis that we got in the final product. In the original(and subsequent sequels), Loomis's sole driving purpose in life was to get Myers put away, dead or alive. He knew what he was, that he was evil on two legs and that he'd never stop. He spent 15 years trying to help him, and then the rest of his life realizing it was a lost cause and trying to kill him. In Zombie's version, Loomis essentially quits on Michael after 15 years, disappears, spends the subsequent years pushing out tell-all books and tv-movie scripts about the ordeal, and then ONLY shows up when Michael finally escaped. I dunno, it just didn't strike the right chord with me.
June 20, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST
The horror genre has always had a consistent, flowing theme to me... through the decades, the horror movies that are released each year are usually 97% shit, and 3% quality. The 3% reminds all of us bloodhounds what can make the genre so amazing, and the rest gets thrown away and relegated to direct-to-video mediums. Unfortunately, its just a genre that is ripe for sub-par shit that can be rolled out in a quick, low-cost fashion and turn a profit on the Blockbuster shelves. You just have to seek out that 3%, because its there. Thank god for the internet, because otherwise that 3% would be a lot harder to find... very recent examples for me are "Frontiere(s)" and "Let the Right One In." Both very good horror films, neither would have been seen by me had it not been for sites like this.
June 20, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST
Has been the enemy of horror, the state of censorship. You CANNOT HAVE PG-13 HORROR!!! HORROR HAS TO HORRIFY YOU. I get more scared watching to catch a predator.
June 20, 2009, 8:22 p.m. CST
Is fantastic. One of the few great horror films released in quite awhile.
June 20, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST
My one big regret regarding Zombie coming back for this sequel, is that when he was initially burnt out and un-committed to a sequel, the producers commisioned Alexandre Bustillo and Julien Muary, who made the amazing french horror film "À l'intérieur(Inside)." That could have been an AMAZING Halloween film. but apparently, they couldn't put together a script to save their lives.
June 21, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST
Inside was AWESOME. You know at least that movie is safe from being remade. America film producer wouldn't touch that subject with a ten foot pole.
June 21, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST
Personally I'd rather be repeatedly flicked in my eyeballs for 90 mins.
June 21, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST
June 21, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST
What an overrated film that was! Anyone care to explain to me how that guy a. found out where the vampire lived, and b. got inside of the vampire's apartment. I thought the projectionist had missed a reel, it was such a gigantic leap. Sure it was a pretty looking film, but beyond that it was sloppy and never really scary.<p>And Rob Zombie's Halloween was horrible. "Love Hurts"? Really, Rob? Really? You don't need to parody Zombie's work because he does it himself.
June 21, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST
First you all piss and moan when you find out Halloween is being remade, and then you complain because Zombie doesn't do it exactly like the original. Can you say contradictary?
June 21, 2009, 11:34 p.m. CST
While I'll admit I wasn't all too crazy about Zombie's Halloween Remake, the poster has a genuinely cool effect. I may catch it when it comes out, btw always nice to see Brad Douriff back at work.
June 22, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST
...in recent history.
June 22, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST
by Cellar Door
I don't recall people 'pissing and moaning' about Halloween being remade but I'm sure it happened. But the reason people 'pissed and moaned' about Halloween after they saw it wasn't because it was exactly like the movie..in fact, the 2nd and 3rd acts apparently WERE exactly like the movie but people complained because Zombie pulled the biggest and most common fuckup in all of remake-history...DE-MYSTIFYING the villain. Lucas did it. Twohy did it. Zombie did it. Rattner did it and whomever directed 'Hannibal Rising' did it, idiots who made Highlander 2 did it, etc, etc.<p>Clear enough? I mean shit people, if you're going to come on here and bitch at people you say are being arbitrary about their bitching, at least don't be arbitrary in the amount of research you do to prove your point about that bitching. Nobody gave a shit Zombies Halloween was a remake until he turned Michael Myers from an unknowable and unstoppable evil force into a troubled and abused, white-trash redneck with a parent/familial grudge.<p>As for Let the right one in: he knew where the vampire lived because he saw the man and the 'girl' move in to the empty apartment in his building. He also approached the man in the Chinese restaurant so he knew exactly who he was. He got in because the door was left unlocked (this is better explained in the book). Of course, in the book he finds something quite different in the bathroom, but the issue of him getting in and how he does so is not as bad as you describe.<p>The hype is a bit much though..it's definitely a great and unorthodox vampire movie, very interesting if not entirely unique but it's by no means the 'best vampire movie ever'.
June 22, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST
Is simply this, the whole childhood thing was no needed. It was interesting, yes, but IMO, it takes what was once a maniacal, cold killing machine and turned him into a pissed off kid with stepdaddy/bully/mommy/sister issues. Awww poor Mikey had an abusive step dad so he went nuts and started killing people. It totally takes away from the mystique of the character to give him a motivation for his killings. He is no longer an insane killing machine, he is a pissed off little boy, yea that's real scary.
June 22, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST
How about a new album, and the return of Doctor Satan.