June 17, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST
June 17, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST
June 17, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST
I thought that was the cliff hanger.
June 17, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST
no experience/talent/imagination needed. we don't do that here.
June 17, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST
How about including pictures of the actors in your news? Seriously. You'll put in a comic book picture but not one of the actor the story is about. WTF??
June 17, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST
He ditched Megan Fox? WTF!!
June 17, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
June 17, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST
Why dont the Producers have the guts(balls were applicable) to make him Superman and run with the Superman stories instead of using ALL the Superman Stories.
June 17, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST
is he Superman yet?
June 17, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST
Otherwise, this is just not Superman.
June 18, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST
I just loved how brutally quick it was. *Bang* Dropped. That's it.
June 18, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST
He's an oscar level actor from his meth addicted drug scenes in 90210 to his Wigger years in 90210, to his unshaved and dirty I don't give a flying **** years on 90210 to be John Connors uncle on SCC B.A.G has always displayed his ability to act his way out of well, a paper bag. Great casting, this is going to be best season ever of Smallville, all thanks to B.A.G.
June 18, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST
Would it be so bad if the CW changed the name of the show to METROPOLIS for its (hopefully) final year? It would create a buzz and give the show more leeway to have Clark be more like Superman. Regardless the show hasn't been must-watch tv for years...
June 18, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST
June 18, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST
Herc, please make that ad bigger. As Mike Bay would say "Make it AWESOME!"
June 18, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST
June 18, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST
that is all
June 18, 2009, 3:01 a.m. CST
...and speak alot of shit as well. "Is this show still on" - no you fuck, we just talk about casting its 9th season cos' we stupid idiots!!! OF COURSE ITS STILL ON!! It's been on for 10 bloomin years! Thats more that the beloved BSG, more the the holy Wire, more than the wonderful Journey Man, and more than ANGEL!! People watch it - they watch it because it delivers what people want to see (a different take on Superman) and because it is the show Heroes could never be. Thank the LORDY you guys aren't TV execs!!! As for BAG - he was actually a good thing on TSCC - I truly don't understand the hate...other than that he was on 90210...and that he boned Megan Fox! He is not a bad actor...Smallville is a good show - not a great show - but a good show that has outlived many many others and in this climate - ratings dump is dumped!! Pushing Daisies DUMPED! Reaper DUMPED!! TSCC DUMPED!! Smallville - RENEWED FOR A NINTH SEASON!! Deal with it - get over it - or don't tune in and don't read the talkback.
June 18, 2009, 3:18 a.m. CST
This show is way past it's expiration date. Production values are in the toilet with about 6 sets that are used for every show. All this gives Smallville a claustrophobic feel. The budgets are obviously being cut most likely because the few actors that have stayed are demanding high salary knowing that Smallville won't be around to much longer. All that said, I'm still watching it because I am a Comic kind of guy.
June 18, 2009, 3:28 a.m. CST
It was actually well done - the finale sucked but I guess that was budget restrictions. BAG will be in the show for two episodes - its not a big deal. The producers do the best they can with the budget they have - and thats why they are on season 9. People will still watch. Yes, it won't go past season 10. But what a great run nonetheless.
June 18, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST
Has he flown yet? Is Lana still on? Kristin Kreuk needs to get her own show. Saw Chun Li last night. She's cute but doesn't show enough skin. I'd vote her to replace Megan Fox in Transformers.
June 18, 2009, 3:45 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
And they've put him exactly where he should be for the Death of Superman storyline decades later.
June 18, 2009, 4:09 a.m. CST
MMReturns, I get what you are saying, and personally I don't get people coming into a TB to bitch about something they don't watch, but as a casual viewer on Smallville I am going to say the show blew a fantastic possibility. I am not saying it is a bad show, but it also hasn't lived up to its potential. <p> The show has been stuck in Smallville and basically his HS years for way to long. If they have been willing to rename the show Metropolis, as ciroslive mentioned above, they could of moved on and charted a different part of Superman's life. But instead they have been doing the same soap opera, again and again. <p> I'm not saying you are wrong in liking the show, but you have to admit it could have been better, and when dealing with the Superman mythos I think most people would love if they got it right the first time instead of having to wait maybe 20 years before they reboot the Smallville TV show.
June 18, 2009, 4:49 a.m. CST
But couldnt agree more, should have been renamed Metropolis, huge opportunity missed.
June 18, 2009, 5:16 a.m. CST
have to be very carefull. since one of the widows of the creators of the Superman and her daughter Sued and won.
June 18, 2009, 5:37 a.m. CST
The problem is there has been no progression with the Clark Kent character and every season has the same plot points recycled (Clark loses his powers, Clark is taken over by something and is evil, etc). The Doomsday season had some moments where it was really good and I thought they may finally move forward with the story. I look at "Smallville" as an "Elseworlds" story so I don't care if he dons the cape (I hope he does) but as long as he becomes SUPERMAN instead of acting like Clark Kent with a yeast infection, then I would be ok.
June 18, 2009, 6:58 a.m. CST
and they're still adhering to that ridiculous "no flights, no tights" policy. What a crock.
June 18, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST
It aired after Smallville this past season, and it's going to air after that new Vampire Diaries show this fall.
June 18, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST
I ask the same question every Smallville talkback...
June 18, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST
It kind of looks that way.
June 18, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST
I was going to write this large rant against how stupid the show has become since Lana showed up again, but I no energy left to discuss a show that it is stuck in the past. It was ok to do the no flight the first few years, but the fact that everyone can fly including Supergirl makes the whole thing ridiculous. I agree they should have gone with the Metropolis idea for season 5. Now, the character is a joke and so is the rest of the show.
June 18, 2009, 7:23 a.m. CST
As it stands, by the time this guy DOES become Superman, he is going to have faced and defeated every enemy he would have eventually met as Superman. Who is going to be left for him to take on?
June 18, 2009, 7:25 a.m. CST
It was such a great idea of CW to get rid of their second highest rated show. What happened to the network after that? Oh yeah, they had to combine with another network to stay a float. Angel's ratings are double what Smallville is now and since CW is such a shit network, they have to keep Smallville on, because its second highest rated show. They are putting it on Fridays in order to cancel the show, because they can't cancel another high rated show like Angel. They wanted to cancel it this year, but since the ratings were high in the beginning due to no Lana, they renewed it too early and once she showed up and Doomsday started, the ratings tanked again.
June 18, 2009, 7:28 a.m. CST
Script Girl is pretty.
June 18, 2009, 7:28 a.m. CST
by Royston Lodge
The appeal of this show was how it would explore Clark Kent growing up. Throwing in every superman character under the sun and moving them to Smallville ruined that. Do we ever even see Lana Lang anymore?!?! Epic fail.
June 18, 2009, 7:33 a.m. CST
by Bob Cryptonight
Although, that's a minor problem for this lame show.
June 18, 2009, 7:36 a.m. CST
by Bob Cryptonight
June 18, 2009, 7:43 a.m. CST
Sucks. Man, I like Smallville but am I sick and tired of the weekly kryptonite. Every fucking dentist in the world has lead aprons. Grab a couple of those and beat the shit out of Metallo.
June 18, 2009, 7:51 a.m. CST
Yeah like chloe would get married to someone without ever meeting his family! Stooopid! But its a fun show for drinking games (whos gonna get knocked unconcious next etc) the only thing that annoys me is the shit Danny Elfman sounding score the play when Lois and Clark are having yet another tit for tat conversation , usually in the daily planet office, you know that silly music they put into EVERY sceen in desperate housewives, desperate housewives not thats a fucking terrable show, smallville is light entertainment to escape reallity for an hour! roll on S09!
June 18, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST
by Bouncy X
you're marrying that person, not their family. who cares what the family is like, if you're willing to marry them then obviously you're happy with who they are and such. if you're opinion of a person changes because of who they happen to be related to, then you're just picky. judge people for who they are, not what surrounds them. oh and just so i fit into this talkback......smallville is still on? holy christ on a popsicle stick!!!!
June 18, 2009, 8:13 a.m. CST
Claustraphobic - although a lot of shows run into that (see Angel Season 5, EVERYTHING happened at the offices of Wolfram & Hart) I guess with limited budgets producers work with what they got.
June 18, 2009, 8:18 a.m. CST
The season finale sucked large (Zod? Again?? Really???) but as previously posted - Budget restrictions. Look at the quality of effects from the first three seasons as opposed to now. It's actually kinda sad.
June 18, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST
Which is odd, because the usual pattern had been great season ending episodes crowning fair to middling season episodes. I thought last season was promising over all. Although I have to agree that the Lana redux was both tedious and a head scratcher. Maybe making Lana toxic is a metaphor for the Smallville experience itself. <p> I have to agree that the show should end its run real soon now or give up and just give us the further adventures of Superman. It could not be any worse than the last movie outing. <p> By the way, Angel was one of my favorite series and I was sad that it was cancelled. But it only had one, maybe two more seasons at most left in its run. The network should have gone with the big and promoted finale season. It was my understanding that ratings were always reliable, such as they were, and may have picked up as a known and advertised finale approached. <p> Oh, well, I hope this season brings an end to the "blue blur" and delivers, at long last, the man of steel.
June 18, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST
Now that was a screen death to remember. I was stunned. And then stunned but relieved with the series cliff-hanger. What a pity that TSCC was cancelled.
June 18, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST
Every time she was on screen, Kristen Kreuk sucked the energy out of every scene like some sort of power leech. Welling and Durance have much better chemistry, IMHO.
June 18, 2009, 8:32 a.m. CST
by Mr Walter
I have watched it on/off. The last few seasons especially the last season I enjoyed. Apart from the season finale which was disappointing and a bit lazy. But way more interest then Heroes.
June 18, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST
Licensing. I may be wrong but I believe they don't have the rights to the Superman character. Sure, they have the rights to pretty much every other character in Superman's orbit, including his alter ego, but not the guy in the blue tights and red cape. They may not have the rights to Aquaman either (don't they refer to him as AC?) or The Flash (they call his Speedy or something). <p>Look back at the first couple of seasons of the show. Smallville was a way of doing a Superman show without having the character of Superman. They had the bumbling, fumbling Clark Kent, the nemesis Lex Luthor, and the intrepid reporter Lois Lane (in the character of Chloe). But after a few years they started to run out of "Clark Kent with superpowers but not Superman" stories and started to add Superman supporting characters and villains - the actual Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen (or so we thought), Green Arrow, Supergirl, Doomsday, Bizarro, etc.
June 18, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
They used to SHOW Clark's super-fast running, but more often than not in the last three or so seasons, they'll just add an off-screen "whoosh" while a technician blows some air at Alison Mack's hair, and then they'll just pan over to reveal Welling standing there. Plus, we used to get things like heat vision (which looked DAMN COOL), Matrix "bullet time" shots when Clark was in super-speed mode, ect., but more often than not, the series looks about as technically advanced as an episode of the 50's Adventures Of Superman show (all that's missing is a shot of a villain emptying his gun into Clark's chest, then throwing it at him). Smallville used to have GREAT F/X for a TV production, but it seems like about 70% of each episode's budget now goes directly into Welling's pocket.<BR><BR>That said, season eight was pretty damn good all the way, and the Doomsday arc was handled extremely well (aside from the truncated, F/X-light final showdown, of course). Season nine should definitely be it, though. REALLY work at the Lois/Clark attraction (Erica Durance is my second-favorite Lois at this point, after Dana Delaney), write Chloe out of the series, get Michael Rosenbaum back for a few key episodes, and end the show right. Despite it's faults, it's been a remarkably consistent show far longer than it ever should have been (compare it to Heroes, which had a GREAT first season, then fell to pieces with stunning swiftness).
June 18, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST
I agree with you batting at the haters and naysayers. The show is on the air because people obviosly enjoy it. And as a casual watcher I have to admit to enjoy it sometimes too. However some reasons why I think people hate on Smallville so much is that it has very very little growth over a 10 (!) year period in terms of character and plot development. I want so much to like SV more than I do, but Tom Wellings acting, if anything, has grown more wooden, and the sets have not changed in YEARS. I get it, low production costs help keep it on the air. But I have to say, the thing that bothers me the most as a fan is the often soap opera-ish acting and dialog...the long lingering shots of the actors faces when they say something 'significant' is beyond annoying, especially when they use that as the pause before a commercial. It's soap opera 101. And for God's sake, whose decision was it to make Clark such a pussy? At this point Welling is playing, what, a 23 year old man (which in itself is a stretch, the guy looks solidly 30 if not more)? The guy can barely get a word out with a woman in the room without seeming like a 12 year old dungeons and dragons nerd at a Hooters. Clarks got no stones and that's what tunes me out. My Supes is confident and in charge, and only plays the nerd to distract people from imagining him without his glasses. SV's Clark IS a nerd, and that annoys me. What does he have to be afraid of around normal people? Anyway, now that I've bashed my two cents worth as well, Furzee out.
June 18, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST
Best. Lois. Ever.<br><br>That being said, it's obvious Smallville has become weighted down with all the typical trappings of a series that has run this long:<br>•The primary star has too much sway<br>•Too much of the budget is going to the primary star<br>•Everyone involved is burned out<br>•The remaining actors always think they are "holding themselves back from something bigger and better"<br>•The actors begin to write and/or direct the episodes (ALWAYS a mistake)<br>•The actors begin to believe that they are more important to the series than the character they portray•The stories become rote -- no chance taking because they can't upset the formula<br>The show becomes caught up in it's own paradigms
June 18, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST
by Dradis Contact
Harry Dean Stanton
June 18, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST
years ago...like after they graduated high school. clark should have gone away to college in metropolis and become a crime fighter and intern at the Planet.
June 18, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
Best LEGS, at least...
June 18, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST
Yeah Smallville is definatly up and down. Really horrible moments ,but every once in awile they give you some really cool stuff with Justice League or Brainiac. I was sad to see Zod again since he's been over done. I just hope that if Brian Singer does another movie that he doen't do Zod like he had wanted to. That guy does good stuff, but doesn't seem to like doing original stories when it comes to Superman. <br> <br>As for those wanting Smallville to end quickly Tom Welling just signed a contrat for 2 more years so at least seasons 9 & 10. Unless of course people just stop watching and CW cancels it because of poor ratings.
June 18, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST
The producers refused to end the show while they can do it on their own terms. They've stretch it out too long, and now its on Friday nights, it'll end up getting cancelled before they can film a proper ending to it.
June 18, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST
June 18, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST
He not even that good looking? She needs a better publicist and agent.
June 18, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST
I don't know what everyone is getting worked up about. Recent season of Smallville was good imho. The show is what it is. No flights and no tights. That is good because going to the superman suit would look silly now. Here's the secret: Pretend that this is another Superman from one of the Pre-Crisis Infinite Earths and just let it be it's own fucking thing. And relax. It's better than Heroes with a tenth of the budget, and it's good fun. If you're bored with it, change the channel. If you're bored and there's nothing else on, watch it. Enjoy.
June 18, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST
Seriopusly smallville is a soap opera in the vain of SUNSET BEACH!! Its merely a soap with CGI FX flung in has an afterthought. "no Chloe my feelings have been hurt. I dont want to lose you!!" Dialogue for mthafuckin DOOMSDAY!? Next we will be seeing Darkseid played by Borat!!
June 18, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST
He was playing it like his life was on the line, or his career. I gotta give him props. but Smallville suxs man.
June 18, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST
They've pretty much used every Superman villain except Metallo. Hopefully he'll be used sporadically throughout the season.
June 18, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST
The reason I say half was because they were doing a lot for the first half of the season. It was on a roll, and was really good. You can tell that they were building up to the end, getting him to be Superman. They had new showrunners, and you could tell. But what ruined the show wasn't Lana coming back or Doomsday, but them announcing a Season 9. At the beginning of the season, they said it was going to be the last. So I think they had a plan, or at least a goal. But once they announced they were getting another season, they seemed to meander around, not sure where they were going. They were on the path to get him to become Superman and end the show, but wait a minute...they can't do that if they're going to have another season. However, I do find myself enjoying it more than Heroes. I always looked at Smallville as a decent show (even great sometimes) if it didn't have to hang onto the mythos. They do some things that would make for a good show, if it wasn't a departure from the mythos (like JO's death). That's why I always wish they would just create a superhero show that was free from the mythos of an already made character. Lo and Behold they finally do that, and it just keeps getting worse. I used to take up for Heroes, but this last season, I found myself getting upset and uncaring about the show. Let's hope it gets better.
June 18, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST
This one looks like a gay stripper.
June 18, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST
..before he actually becomes Superman is retarded.
June 18, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST
I read that Sam Witwer (Davis Bloome/Doomsday) will possibly play Zod since, in the Smallville mythos, Zod and his wife, Faora, created Doomsday, thus Zod is the "father" of Doomsday. I guess they're trying to say that Davis looks like his "father" Zod. But I got the impression that Davis was human, and that he was infected with the Doomsday genetic material that Zod sent with Kal-El's ship. But maybe I was wrong about that.
June 18, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST
Why isn't anyone seeing it and talking about it? Best film I've seen all year. Jeezus.<br><br>
June 18, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST
Isn't Clark Kent like 40 years old now? When's he going to move to Metropolis and be Superman already?
June 18, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST
not a good idea because he'll be 50 by then
June 18, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST
by Royston Lodge
If they had changed the name of the show to Metropolis, it would negate most of my hate for the show.
June 18, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST
June 18, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST
OT, but what better superhero comic book is there for unending angst and soap opera, with multiple love interests and tragic consequences? That's not Superman...that's Spider-Man!
June 18, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST
Darksied as a corporate competitor against Lex? Whatever as long as Michael Ironside can play him.
June 18, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST
June 18, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST
The kid from The Sound of Music was Peter Parker. Its true, its true.
June 18, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST
by Big Dumb Ape
Drewlicious, I love that idea. Michael Ironside in full make-up and playing Darksied. You'd give Welling a really bad-ass villain, whose evil plans and their effects on everyone's lives really could give the show a solid year of stories. Other than that, it's hard to believe SMALLVILLE has been on this long and still no Superman suit, even with SUPERMAN RETURNS essentially bombing and any subsequent movie still stalled. For crying out loud, talk about the very definition of letting a show going stale...
June 18, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST
He kicked ass in TSCC
June 18, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST
Lets hope this is true and would be the only good casting Smallville has ever made. As for BAG, I just can't see him as Metallo.. That picture does make it look like he is a flasher though..lol..
June 18, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST
Spider-man is the Drama Queen of Comics.
June 18, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST
Cos you're bloody morons if you are! I agree with some of the criticisms though...yes...there needs to be development...but I do say this...Superman as a character, has always been boring. Clark Kent was the interesting one. Supes was the fixer at the end of the serial...he was the one that did the punching...but CK was the one people (the causal fans) liked...Will he get with Lois? Will he be found out? That was what made the character interesting...and Smallville attempts that...and wins I say. Yes, it isn't the best show in history, and yes there needs some development in his character but for what the show is, Smallville ticks the right boxes. And yes....the SHOW IS STILL ON!!!!
June 18, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST
by Bill Brasky
will he get shot in the head while running down a hallway, for no particular reason?
June 18, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST
BAG was freakin' awesome in TSCC, much to my surprise. Giving him the role of villain could be juicy.<br><br> And as I watched a Smallville replay of season 8's "Plastique" the other day, I have to say Tom Welling was pretty damn good this season from start to finish. His scenes with the cutie who played Plastique show exactly how Superman should be. Then all his stuff w/ Chloe this season was impressive, as she whored around with Doomsday.<br><br> Welling's been solid in the past, showing range when given the opportunity to do so. I always liked the red kryptonite Clark episodes. Not as great as David Boreanaz changing from Angel to Angelus, but a dark turn just the same for a more family friendly show.<br><br> It must be pretty tough to play the most well known character (next to Mickey Mouse) in the world. He doesn't get enough credit, IMHO.<br><br> I was surprised how much I liked the Clark/Lois dynamic this season. I didn't really look forward to the relationship when they first introduced Lois to Smallville, but they've won me over.<br><br> But the biggest surprise to me was how excellent Sam Witwer did as Davis. It was a big void to fill Rosenbaum's Lex, and it was refreshing to have a new story told. I've got no problem if Witwer gets to play Zod.<br><br> Here's to more Green Arrow (his character is the voice of the viewer, telling Clark to wake the fuck up), more Black Canary, Flash, and Cosmic Boy, and more development with Tess and Kandor. Where's that gonna go?!<br><br> Smallville pleasantly surprised many this season...but damn if I don't miss John Glover's dialogue. Maybe they can bring in Ray Wise as a juicy villain...maybe Bruno Mannheim?
June 18, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST
the new showrunners did a fantastic job. I used to let smallville episodes accumulate on my computer and then eventually got around to watching them. however, this past season really got the ball rolling, and it became a show i looked foward to every week, which has never been the case with any season of this show for me. <br><br>I was LIVID and furious when they brought lana back for a few episdoes. That storyline made it undeniable that lana brings down the show... badly. One of their biggest, well, no, the ABSOLUTE BIGGEST mistake the show has made for so long was recycling the lana/clark romance. WHY!?! we all know that the relationship is going nowhere, and Lois is THE superhero-wife of all time. They have a brilliant lois on smallville who totally gets the character, unlike that way too young actress who was so obviously not the age she was supposed to be... she must have introduced Singer to his boyfriend or something... <br><br>The doomsday reimagining was fantastic. Yeah, there wasn't the battle we all hoped for, but its TELEVISION, what do you expect. They do alot and i'm sure spend alot on special effects, which have always blown away the garbage on heroes, even though heroes is network with big ratings. Luthor was the best actor on the show, but once he left, the show picked up a ton of momentum. <br><br>Clark HAS evolved and in large part its because of Green Arrow, who is great opposite of clark. All that said, they do need to grow some balls and realize they have ratings gold if they would just make him superman. How stupid to execs think we are? like we can't distinguish between a superman show and a superman movie??? for an industry all about rehashing and reimagining or adapting preexisting material, you'd think they would see a huge cash cow that the show could be if he became superman... it baffles me why they refuse to do it.
June 18, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST
Kind of creepy. But since he hasn't had a job in 2 decades I'll go easy on him.
June 18, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST
Just looked up Bruno Mannheim, and apparently they used him in Smallville this past season! Damn! Oh well, find something for Ray Wise! LOL
June 18, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST
darkseid... the PERFECT villain for a movie that would blow away the average moviegoer since they don't know him, and his arcs are unlike anything seen in a take of superman. Also, a cool, possibly time traveling related, arc would be Gog/Magog... now that'd be something.
June 18, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST
I'd forgotten it then watched the Due South pilot. Awesome song. Has it ever been soundtracked on Smallville?
June 18, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST
by I am the most horrible
is such a lame name. Blue Blur is fine. <p> Lois should change it for him.
Zod said: We'll never see Tom Welling in the Superman Suit The producers refused to end the show while they can do it on their own terms. <br><br> There's new producers and showrunners--thats why last season was so much better (also because lex/lana were gone)
June 18, 2009, 3 p.m. CST
obidawsn> I think Davis was always Doomsday, not a boy infected. In the great episode this season where they flashed back to the the Kent's finding Kal-El after the meteor shower, some sort of space goo emerged and took the form of a boy. Davis was raised as a child (and strangely became friends with a young Lex?).<br><br> Ryanbraun14> I agree w/ most of your great post! Except for some reason I was one of the few who liked the episodes this season where Lana came back. Definitely some unfinished business was resolved, and her annoying video-taped goodbye in season 7 was finally explained! Not sure Lana getting powers was necessary, but at least Clark was finally able to have some super-sex! Haha!<br><br> Kristin Kreuk was given some brutal storylines over the years, but she was always invested in the role. And always incredibly hot!
June 18, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST
I completely agree superman is not, as a whole, a deeply compelling superhero. The contrast between superman and clark is what makes superman legendary. There's a reason you can find 4x as many graphic novels of batman, most of which are better than any superman graphic novel there is (aside from All Star Superman, which kicked all sorts of ass... its an original take on superman... i always thought it couldn't be done)
June 18, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST
the natural said: Kristin Kreuk was given some brutal storylines over the years<br><br>Yes--all the romantic storylines post-season 2... the lex marraige was an absolutely horrific story arc... would it have killed them to just turn lana into the close friend she will ultimately become instead of having them both in love for 8 seasons...
June 18, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST
oh yeah, the natural--i didn't respond with the main point I was going to make:<br><br>there was zero need to make that lana arc and provide closure by making it impossible to clark to ever get near lana. Lana should have been turned into a friend and then go off and do her own thing. The way lana/clark romance ended is terrible because it implies that lana will always been the love of clark life. That's lois' role. the closure we needed was them going in different directions as friends.
June 18, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST
FFS. RUNNING AROUND THE FARM HOUSE IN THOSE LITTLE PANTIES AND TOP OF HERS. OMFG. THE FACT THAT HE HASN'T FLOWN PROPERLY YET IN THE SERIES IS A SECONDARY CONCERN TO THE FACT THAT HE HASNT YET ADDRESSED HIS OBVIOUS NELLY BOTTOM HOMO TENDENCIES. THE FACT THAT SHE HAD THAT SLIGHT TRAILER TRASH LOOK PUSHED IT ALL OVER THE EDGE. I WOULD HAVE SLIPPED HER SOME RED KRYPTONITE AND MADE HER SHOOT LEAD BALLS OUT OF HER PRETTY LITTLE ASSHOLE.
June 18, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST
that is bar none the absolute worst paragraph i have composed in my entire life... its embarrassing because i'm a writer, with a degree in creative writing, and am currently at work.
June 18, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST
stop screaming. thanks for following up my terribly written post with something infinitely more idiodic. what's sad is you say all that garbage, but you clearly watch the show.
June 18, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST
SHUT THE FUCK UP
June 18, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST
by I am the most horrible
June 18, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST
DIDN'T HE RUN OFF TO DO GAY DINNER THEATRE OR SOMETHING. AND IS IT ME OR ARE LOIS' TITS GETTING EVEN BIGGER AS SHE GOES FOR BOOB JOB HEAVEN. DISGUSTING. I GOTTA SAY THAT I LOVE THE SNAGGLETOOTHED CHLOE THOUGH. ANOTHER SLIGHTLY TRAILER TRASH LOOKING BROAD WITH A RELATIVELY NICE POOPER.
June 18, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST
Isn't that just Purple?
June 18, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST
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June 18, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST
it'll focus too much on the justice league but if superman shows up and starts whipping ass then I'll have no complaints.
June 18, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST
Did they just tire of it all and moved on to new projects? <p> Or, for desiring to end Smallville on their terms, were they pushed out by the network/studio who wanted to continue the show?
June 18, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST
The subject line was just a postscript to my last post.
June 18, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST
I just hate where last season fell apart at the end. It had potential and it just went to shit quick. All that build up and we didn't even get to see Clark dispose of DoomsDay. This season has to have Clark fly and at the minimum try a costume change. He doesn't have to sport a cape ,but for the love of God please drop the shirt jacket combo. Doesn't it ever get warm in Smallville? It can't always be jacket weather. This season needs Clark to toughen up and be more of a hard ass instead of a big moping baby. Nine seasons of slumping around and not flying is getting real old.
June 18, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST
LOL No problem man, I'm in creative writing too and it wasn't bad. In fact, trying to describe the absurd storyline of why Lana and Clark can't be around each other anymore was probably why you had trouble in the first place! You're 100% right about that arc. But the sins of Smallville writers have always been there (how many times has Lois been shot?!), and they don't really break their own rules like the Heroes writers do. That's all I can ask. I'm just happy we get weekly adventures of Superboy on TV, and I think next to the Donner films Smallville is easily my favourite live-action interpretation of the hero.<br><br>
June 18, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST
re: the finale...I hear what you're saying. I was disappointed with the lack of a massive fight scene too. One minute of bullet-time punches wasn't enough...but after Jimmy got stuck like a pig, I realized what the writer's intent was with Doomsday.<br><br> I think Davis, Chloe and Jimmy was the bigger storyline here...not a showdown between Doomsday and Superman. After all, that is one epic battle that can't really happen yet because "Superman" hasn't been exposed to the public yet. If Doomsday killed Kal-El, it would really just be Clark Kent dying...not Superman. So that must come much, much later anyway.<br><br> Like her or not, Chloe was brought back as a major star of the show. While I was expecting a Smallville version of the Doomsday vs. Superman battle, the writers didn't go there, perhaps because they could never do it justice.<br><br> Davis was an intriguing character because we all knew he would become Doomsday. From his earliest scenes, they often chose to shoot Witwer with half of his face darkened and the other half light.<br><br> While we didn't get the battle we expected, I think the last 3 episodes (after the lame Stiletto) worked very well as a continuous story surrounding Chloe vs. Davis, Clark vs. Oliver, and Jimmy vs. the world!
June 18, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST
... was too expensive to produce. Likewise, the Heroes finale cheated us of a Sylar v. Petrelli brothers match. Sad when the fans get shortchanged like that.
June 18, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST
On the one hand, it is a perfect solution to set up the "real" Jimmy Olsen, *cub* reporter. When Ashmore was introduced I was dismayed because of the age discrepancy (did everyone major character have to be a twenty-something?), but the character/actor grew on me. <p> Then the powers that be killed him. Dismayed yet again. Then we learn that this was Henry James Olsen and that young Jimmy is still waiting in the wings. Nice touch, though, naming him Henry James.
June 18, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST
and so is all of supermans villains and other dc heroes showing up before hes even superman.Stupid cw is for girls and people with downs syndrom.I thank fuck every day they never sealeed the deal with putting bruce wayne/batman on this shit sandwich of a show.
June 18, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST
It started off strong and the Doomsday arc with Chloe and Clark was awesome, but the finale was a huge copout. I'm still stunned by them choosing to make the big Clark/Doomsday showdown all about Fake Jimmy Olsen. And how in the world can either Lois or Clark continue to work at the Daily Planet with Tess Mercer as their boss? I hated how they just placed Clark at the Planet with no credentials whatsoever, how Lois can make up stories and somehow not face any professional repercussions, and yet Chloe, who is 10x the reporter either of them are, gets fired. Like others, I think SV is now known as the show of failed opportunities. It should've ended in S5, when Pa Kent died and Clark really resembled a young man about to become Superman. Now it's just stall, stall, stall. Ultimately, Smallville has become a show that's not really about anything, just putting the comic characters in their place and not really telling any real stories.
June 18, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST
...as Lois's father/Chloe's uncle. And Sam Witwer won't be returning to play Zod. He was pretty disappointed with how they wrapped up his Davis/Doomsday storyline, and in interviews he hasn't sounded too interested in coming back. I suspect that they planned on bringing SW back to play Zod, but at the last minute shot around that close-up of him as Zod when it became clear he didn't want to come back.
June 18, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST
Then why is it getting tossed to Fridays when there is an empty spot on Tuesday?
June 18, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST
Bruno Mannheim's been done already, and Michael Ironside is Lois' dad Gen. Sam Lane. The move to Friday is to kill the show. Of that much, I'm certain. If I wasn't, a repeat of America's Next Top Model as it's follow-up pretty much sealed the deal for me.
June 18, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST
sorry for the spamming, guys. I don't know how SV compares to other CW shows, but its ratings had a steady decline throughout last season, and the finale was their worst-rated ever. I think, although I can't say for sure, that the episode with Chloe as Brainiac and the Legion of Superheroes was their best performing episode. I heard the Lana episodes did well too. I wanted to respond to snookeroo's comments upthread about the show's obstacles. I'm really not inclined to defend Smallville as a series anymore, but I don't see how it's fair to blame the actors for the repetitive storytelling or budget shortfalls. Tom Welling and Allison Mack are the only actors remaining from the original cast, and at 8-plus seasons I'm sure they get paid a pretty penny. Regardless, they're the only actors who appear in every episode, everyone else does about half. Welling has been directing an episode a season for the last few years, and I know Michael Rosenbaum directed a few years ago and Allisom Mack directed one last season, but no one has written an ep. Welling's not an executive producer, so I have no reason to believe he's directing the storylines to suit him or anything like that. I just don't agree that it's the actors fault that the show has become so stale. All the supporting characters have looser schedules and are free to do other projects. Funnily enough, the only actor I've heard complain about their role not being what they want is Erica Durance.
June 18, 2009, 7:31 p.m. CST
June 18, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST
Why renew a series that has, for the most part, carried its weight in generating ratings and then bury it in a so-called "death slot?" <p> On the other hand, perhaps Smallville will drag its audience with it to its new location and succeed... or not.
June 18, 2009, 8:39 p.m. CST
I've always seen him as a DC Universe villain.
June 18, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST
by My Pretty Pony
Although a lot of people were disappointed with the Season 8 finale, I think it actually set things up nicely for Season 9. Chloe has officially become Watchtower, Clark is completely defeated, I'm interested in what they're planning to do w/ Zod next season, and I'm curious about how they're going to handle Lois' disappearance. I never thought anyone would be able to replace Michael Rosenbaum as Lex, but Cassidy Freeman has done a respectable job as Tess and I like the way they've written her character. Jimmy was underused and Davis/Doomsday was becoming dead weight, so I'm kind of relieved that they're gone. I think casting BAG as Metallo is a smart move. Maybe they could bring him back for more than 2 episodes. I also hear Supergirl will be coming back for at least 1 episode, which makes sense. Why would she take off and never contact her cousin again? I'm sure members of the JL and the Legion will also be coming back. However, I'd be happy to never see Lana Lang again.
June 18, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST
Figured I'd just Netflix the DVDs to catch up when it was over in a few years. Now it just keeps going and going and going...<br /><br />Does Superman pre-Metropolis really warrant 10 seasons? REALLY?<br /><br />Other than dioxholster's favorite show Stargate, isn't this the longest running American genre show EVER?<br /><br /> The X-Files only went nine and it was running on fumes the last two years.<br /><br /> TWICE as Long as Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Babylon 5?<br /><br /> 3 years longer than any STAR TREK spinoff?<br /><br />The question isn't: Is this show still on? The question is: Who's still watching it?<br /><br /> The teenage girls who thought Tom Welling was dreamy in 2001 will have graduated college by the time this thing is over.<br /><br /> LOST and Ron Moore's GALACTICA will be dead and gone.<br /><br /> We'll be on our third Doctor Who of the 21st Century.<br /><br />And He STILL won't fly or wear the tights?<br /><br />WHO IS STILL WATCHING THIS SHOW?
June 18, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST
But hated what they have done to the Doomsday storyline.. hated what they did to Lana and Lex as well as Lex's father... Hated a whole bunch of other crap they decided to do over the years. Clark has not grown up one bit and is as immature as he was in season 1.. He is 10 years older, he should be Superman by now and the show should have been this season just like Lois and Clark the TV show was in season 1.. And I don't know how they are going to get glasses on Clark and suddenly have him take them off to become superman and Lois is not going to recognize who he is.. That is going to be very cheesy to see how they pull that one off..
June 18, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST
But then I guess this is the only show that CW has going for it? I dunno, I liked it the first few years, but after they killed of Pa Kent, the show went downhill fast.
June 18, 2009, 11:34 p.m. CST
I have been a fan of Superman/boy forever. But I never got the glasses as a disguise. Not even Elton John style spectacles would conceal Superman's human identity. <p> So I suppose I am not alone and the Smallville producers just chose not to go there.
June 19, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST
Heard about it years ago but nothing since.
June 19, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST
...while gargling "Putting on the Ritz" and it would be more entertaining than this shit fuck of a show. Talk about completely shitting on your source material. And don't give me that "re-imagining" shit.
June 19, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST
June 19, 2009, 1:04 a.m. CST
This is like when I realized Family Matters was still on. Why?
June 19, 2009, 1:11 a.m. CST
they said from the start "no tights no flights" and how they've continued to have about 50 DC characters, some of which have tights, but no actual Superman. the cringe-worthy "nods" to what Clark becomes were fun in the first couple seasons, now its just SAD. cancel this show, please? its clear that it doesn't know what to do with these characters anymore.
June 19, 2009, 5:17 a.m. CST
I loved the first 4 seasons, but then things started to sputter. I mean Clark is in his 30s now, when the fuck does he put on a cape? After his 20 year HS reunion. This show needs to be terminated.
June 19, 2009, 6:47 a.m. CST
by jason baum
to read over this talkback & bulletpoint all the good comments that have been brought up: ie, production value, durance's amazing lois, great season 8 but weak finale, time for the tights, 'metropolis' would have been a brilliant title, need a more confident clark, welling has WAY TOO MUCH PULL, chloe's curiosity is SO GODDAMN ANNOYING i could murder my TV (i added that one), cool approach to doomsday, and sam witwer might have stolen the season, BAG might be a great OR terrible addition, etc... my point is that SV still has life, and this talkback is proof. y'all had some really good points to bring up - both positive & negative. in fact, had the strong negative feedback been noted by the shows producers, we might be entering a 'stronger than ever' season 9 as opposed to a 'not so sure of ourselves' one. anyways, i f-in dig this show & hope it can finish strong with 10 seasons. and by the fucking way: 'is this show still on?' is a sad, tired, redundant, annoying and bitchy little whimper. get a new schtick.
June 19, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST
I just finished last season. Welling had this makeuped over Herpes sore almost all season. Plus he has some weird head tumor mole that really needs looked at. <p> As Superman wouldn't people tweak to the head tumor mole and the cheek mole? Would he need those burned off when he achieves a secret identity?
June 19, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST
George Reeves was older when he donned the tights during his series. Watch the first episode he was like thirty before he left the farm for Metropolis. Then he landed the job. Then the tights. <p> So there is a precedent.
June 19, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
...ranks with "This is still better than 95% of the crap on TV" as THE most overused talkback phrase involving any TV show that's run more than five seasons. Enough.
June 19, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
successful enough. Tom Welling didn't become a star, and doesn't want to leave - unlike Sarah Michelle Gellar or David Duchovny. It's a cozy job and a steady paycheck.
June 19, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST
have done an admirable job, all things considered. There were positive changes to the cast, setting, story arcs as well as improvements in maturity, tone etc. Some of the bits here and there about Clark's fate/destiny showed that they understood what they need to do to tell a good story.<BR><BR> But for all their efforts, they've fallen well short of turning the series into what a series about Superman should be (ie something great). Superman is about heroism, epic batlles, personal sacrifice and struggles with life, love and society, demonstrating all the ideals of chivalry and justice through example etc. They have all the ingredients they need to make us feel all the emotional highs and lows. To make us root and cheer as well as feel pain, anger and sorrow. There's a ton of rich material here. But instead of putting Clark and these themes about Clark front and center, there was far too much time wasted on far less interesting stories. I suppose their intent is to give the "supporting" characters depth (or maybe to placate the actors) but they should only be given depth if it helps move/improve Clark/Superman's story and not just for the sake of giving characters depth. The lack of focus dilutes the energy/momentum of the show.<BR><BR> I thought the legal issues were about the rights to Superboy, not Superman so I don't know what the hold up is to introducing Superman. Turning Clark into Superman would definitely help. I'm sure there are issues related to the budget and dealing with all the constraints making a TV series. But if they keep the focus on Clark and all of Clark's issues (instead of on all of Smallville's characters), and if they improve some of the other aspects of the writing (dialog) they should be able to turn this into something really worth watching.
June 19, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST
The show's simply not worth watching anymore. Not even for comic nerds. "Jimmy" Olsen gets killed, but that's not the REAL Jimmy, that's Jimmy's older brother, who just ALSO happens to go by "Jimmy"??? Yeah, right... That was as believable as "Jimmy" being able to attack and kill Davis Bloome/Doomsday AFTER being impaled through the back and chest with a 3-inch diameter pipe!<p> Hiring Brian Austin Greene is just the nasty gooey icing on the rancid cowpie this show has become. Please just cancel it and put it out of its misery!!! >:(
June 19, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST
..is too good for this show...seriously.
June 19, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST
Sarah Michelle Gellar a star? Please. Wasn't Scooby Doo enough for you? Check her IMDB, fucking sad. <p> I bet she cries every night about leaving Buffy.
June 19, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST
C'mon it is tv. Jimmy used his dying breath to save Chloe. Doesn't Jack Bauer do that weekly?
June 19, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST
Although some of the producers remain in place for this coming season's work. <p> Wow, this show's production history sure is complicated. <p>
June 19, 2009, noon CST
Comparing a trained killer and uber-bad@$$ like Jack Bauer to Jimmy "I take photos" Olsen is so LAUGHABLE, I'm not even sure why I'm responding. Never mind the fact that Jack has clearly established over eight seasons that he's harder to kill than a post-nuclear cockroach, whereas Jimmy's been easily knocked-out by practically everyone in Smallville and Metropolis.
June 19, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST
who keeps giving that fucktard work? He's only famous for banging the fox. I hope cw don't shaft smallville - it has shown it can be really good and I like Welling in the role.
June 19, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST
Watch out Supes, the pants are coming next.
June 19, 2009, 1 p.m. CST
June 19, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST
WHEN HE FINALLY PUTS THOSE TIGHTS ON. I'M BETTING IT'S GOING TO BE LARGE ENOUGH TO WARRANT IT'S OWN ZIPCODE. MMMM.
June 19, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST
by King Conan
that would INSTANTLY buy them like 4 more seasons JUST from fanboys watching ALONE nevermind the curious who will tune in just to see the iconic costume.
June 19, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST
Never thought Ma Kent could be a MILF but then this show came along.
June 19, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST
She looked absolutely amazing.
June 19, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST
Well, Superman is uber gay in the first place and have to wonder about the hardcore fans in the first place. Metallo is opening his shirt and baring his chest to Supes. How much gayer can that get? Metallo pulling trou down and exposing his shiny shaft to Supes?
June 19, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST
Fucking fly already.
June 19, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST
This show rocks, and this news is awesome! You haters can all go suck a nut!
June 19, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST
they should bring back angel and keep them in the wolfram offices -- but bring kevin smith to pen it and it should be gold.
June 19, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST
BAG played the best character on that show. Even when he died nonchalantly he played that shit straight. He pretty much proved himself with that roll. Though Smallville seems like a huge downgrade in terms of quality. The last season started fairly decent in comparison to the previous seasons, but that fucking finale was shit. SHIT!!!! Any motherfucker on this board that ends up showing up to that Smallville panel and has a decent enough background on Superman needs to grill the fucking showrunners on why they keep fucking up Clark Kent/Superman.
June 19, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST
season 1 was brilliant then it just kept on rapidly going down hill, how one of the worlds richest men doesnt put a shit load of camera in his offfice, when it keeps on getting broken into every epsiode i'll never know. lanas mediacal bills must be through the roof as she was getting battered everyweek. miraculously recovered the next epsiode only to be knocked out again. <p> lana /clark was becoming too much dead weight, lana/lex meant i fast forwarded episodes. but season 8 was great. i mean a vast improvement instead of secret societies and symbols and bullshit. lois character has improved. having the grren arrow as a foil against clark is also good tv</p> <p> some villian/ hero will solve clarks glasses problem to alter reality so that everyone remembers him wearing glasses. hey presto, secret idenity preserved. but i'll kep watching. smallville is not brilliant its easy digestable background music which once in a while sounds really good.b ut is most of the time jsut there </p>
June 20, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST
-and Welling isn't openly gay - so the there's no chemistry. The real problem is that Kreuk left, Baldy Mc Rosenbasterd grew way tiresome and the writers began phoning it in at least two seasons ago. When each pseudo-actor mirrors the next, spewing hyperbolic drivel with the glazed look of Jay Liptons remedial sophmores, it's time to call in "The Cleaner". I'll supply the lyme if y'all can find a bathtub big enough. What would save this show? Megan Fox Face down in Alessandra Ambrosio for starters. Top it off with Missy Peregrym kicking teh glib out of Lane, and Chloe and Clark getting it on in Lex's bed, while his head looks on from a bedside jar of formaldehyde. Oh and Diablo Cody should share writing chops with Chuck Palahniuk. Like it? Of course you do. Nice to meet you too. The names Egotesticle.
June 20, 2009, 5:40 a.m. CST
Unless Welling can find some Colombians to invest in the tenth. And considering that this show is all he'll have, he might just try to.
June 20, 2009, 6:10 a.m. CST
June 20, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST
Once upon a time, Smallville was a wonderful little show about Superman before he donned the tights. Now, it's just a watered down series that still turns a buck for the CW so they're keeping it on life support, even though the show died like three seasons ago. BTW, I've never seen a group of writers/producers that have such a strong ability to take fantastic source materials, and awesome actors like Sam Witwer (BSG) and James Marsters (Buffy/Angel) and turn out such crappy, underdeveloped, antic-climactic storytelling.
June 20, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST
It's me. <p> Herc's taste in TV shows is terrible. It's like asking your 13-year-old niece what to watch.
June 20, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST
And how come he keeps fighting all his "arch enemies" before he even becomes Superman? This show should stop please!!!!!!
June 20, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST
Are they the same 10 people who have been watching Supernatural for like 10 years? I couldn't make it through one episode of this. And he still isn't Superman yet? Are they waiting until he qualifies for AARP?
June 20, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST
I smell another George Reeves here!
June 20, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST
I watched Smallville a while ago and loved the subtle use of DC characters but it never really went any place. I guess I was expecting some Buffy the Vampire Slayer style plot/character. It was really more "Clarke vs the Bad Guy of the Week" when I stopped watching. Is it worth watching now?
June 20, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST
Is what I meant. Heh.
June 20, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
But other than that...I can't think of ANYTHING he's ever been in besides Smallville.
June 21, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST
that horrible remake of "Cheaper by the Dozen"!