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Maybe These Wolverines Will Be Cooler Than The WOLVERINE Fox Just Put On Screens?? RED DAWN Casting Continues...

Merrick here...
Casting is picking up for MGM's remake of John Milius' RED DAWN. Chris Hemsworth (Daddy Kirk in J.J.'s TREK) has already been cast in the film...

Now we know that Josh Peck (THE WACKNESS, Nickelodeon's DRAKE & JOSH)...

And FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHT's Adrianne Palicki ...
...will be joining him.
Peck will play Matt Eckert -- the role originated by Charlie Sheen -- the hotheaded younger brother of Hemsworth's Jed Eckert and star quarterback of their Spokane high school football team. Palicki will play Toni, the role first inhabited by Jennifer Grey. She's a tough fighter the brothers encounter who develops romantic feelings for Jed, a Marine home on leave and the group's unofficial leader.
...per THIS ARTICLE in Hollywood Reporter. RED DAWN will be directed by Dan Bradley, stunt god/Second Unit director on stuff like BOURNE and QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

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  • June 17, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    The Wackness

    by gavdiggity

    was good. This remake probably won't be.

  • June 17, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Who's playing Harry Dean Stanton?

    by rev_skarekroe

    Avenge me, boys!

  • June 17, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Firrr...... God damn, thought I was first..

    by DECTHEMAN

    could'nt give two fucks about this movie though

  • June 17, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    its medieval...

    by surprider

    WOLVERINES!!!

  • June 17, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    red dawn 2009?

    by Bouncy X

    so will this take place during the 80s and keep the "red threat" angle or are they modernizing it and using some other group or country as the invaders?

  • June 17, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Boys..

    by surprider

    AVENGE ME!!!!

  • June 17, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Love Adrianne Palicki

    by Zeegloo

    Absolutely beautiful and talented.

  • June 17, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    bad fucking idea, part 698

    by Six Demon Bag

    this goes right up there with the "sequel" to wargames...thanks a bunch. <P>why did we live thru the 80s if they are gonna keep doing this?

  • June 17, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Wow. This cast is not nearly as bad as John Carter's!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Congratulations Stanton. Dumb fuck.

  • June 17, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    'AVENGE MEEEEE!!!!"

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • June 17, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    First time I've ever heard of Adrianne Palicki

    by Stuntcock Mike

    You'll have to excuse me for a few moments.

  • June 17, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    I vote, "maybe".

    by Royston Lodge

    It's amazing how many of these remakes are of movies that I've only recently viewed on DVD. I think Hollywood has access to my ZipList (zip.ca being the Canadian version of Netflix).<p> Regardless, while I was watching Red Dawn recently, I immediately thought it was ripe for a remake.<p> Good concept + Cheap-ass execution = Decent remake<p> Now, there's a huge chasm between potentially-good-remake and the piece of turd that actually ends up on the screen, of course . . .

  • June 17, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    This Could Be Great IF...

    by SamuelLappDance

    If they make it a direct sequel to "Red Dawn." America has been in a war on its own soil for 25 years. Commies and their allies still control sections of the West and the Plains. Hope seems lost in one particular small town until some local kids resurrect the ... WOLVERINES!

  • June 17, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    But, Of Course...

    by SamuelLappDance

    That won't be the case. It's been confirmed this is a remake set in the present day. At the very least, I really hope they film it in the same town as the original. Las Vegas, New Mexico. That town has SO much character. And maybe a cameo or three from C. Thomas Howell, Powers Boothe, Lea Thompson or Charlie Sheen. They all gotta eat! Boothe would be great in the Harry Dean Stanton role. "BOYS! AVENGE ME!!!" His two sons and Howell get about five feet away from where they were, and Stanton totally gives them away. I'd be like, "Shuddup, old man! You're gonna get us shot!"

  • June 17, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    I don't get it

    by daggor

    Why are they making a film that the target audience won't get? The haven't-touched-a-boob/haven't-seen-a-penis set could give a bigger shit about the cold war. They didn't live through it, and if high school American history is still working out like it did for me, they don't teach past World War II. I haven't been reading the info about this useless remake, so maybe the angle will be changed to include Al-Qaeda, but I doubt that would be the PC thing to do.

  • June 17, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Adrianne...

    by daveknight72

    I had the pleasure of working alongside her on a couple of productions (SOUTH BEACH and MERCY REEF... err AQUAMAN). She's a really nice person and I, for one, am happy to see her career continue to blossom... even if it involves a remake of RED DAWN.

  • June 17, 2009, noon CST

    I hope this won't kill Peck's career.

    by DerLanghaarige

    Well, okay, he doesn't have THAT much of a career yet (in the mainstream, I mean) but I already liked him when he was on Nickelodeon.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by Quin the Eskimo

    Really? You're calling out Stanton, really?

  • June 17, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Really?

    by Anna Valerious

    This could make up for the awful direction the later episodes of "Drake and Josh" took. I don't find the fact they were bullying geeky characters in place of Josh (Who was now cool) to be something that kids should emulate. I think there's enough bullying and it needs to be stopped, not glorified.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    May as well be N. Korea now

    by terry1978

    Way too close to home, but relevant.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Because is there's any relevant bad guy now, it's the Russians

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • June 17, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Swayze for the Harry Dean Stanton Role

    by Darth Busey

    Before he dies, please. C. Thomas Howell as the Lane Smith bootlicking sychophantic mayor, please. Powers Boothe for the Powers Boothe role. "Weren't there a billion screaming Chinamen?" "Used to be."

  • June 17, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    this looks gay already

    by muri71

  • June 17, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Press Release re: New Plot for remake RED DAWN

    by Sequitur

    A group of High School students form a small militia to combat Socialized Medicine

  • June 17, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    no wonder harry likes it before seeing shit

    by muri71

    it already has the twilight gayness in it, fancy good looking boys, right harry?!;)

  • June 17, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Wow!

    by tj donkey show

    With exception of guys blowing each other that has to be the gayest picture ever. You know which one I'm talking about.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Red Dawn in the 2000's

    by Arteska

    If the invaders can destroy cell phone towers and somehow disrupt internet access or disable twitter and facebook they will win handily. You think some high school chump today is going to know how to hunt deer or piss in a radiator, much less shoot a gun in a way that doesn't imitate a rapper imitating someone that actually knows how to use a weapon properly?

  • June 17, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Stuntman does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Stuntcock Mike >> Stunt God Dan.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    New Plot

    by chrth

    Iran follows through on its threat against websites that are part of the current unrest, and invades Facebook. Forced underground, Fan Page WOLVERINES fights back.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Arteska: You live in a city, right?

    by chrth

    Trust me, down in the rural parts of the South and Midwest, the boys know how to hunt.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    wolverines weren't faggots

    by animas

    they were killers , so why are they casting pretty boy fairies who will never be believable as tough survivors

  • June 17, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Harry Connick Jnr to play Harry Dean Stanton in all future remakes.<p> 'It was a marvellous night for a moon dance when I went down the Nostromo Bay...'

  • June 17, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Midwest here

    by Arteska

    Oh I know where the lines will be drawn well enough, I just don't trust Hollywood to know.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Red Sonja+From Dusk Till Dawn= my Red Dawn remake!

    by S-Mart shopper

  • June 17, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Get ready for "Red Shake-The-Camera-All-Over-The-Fucking-Place D

    by Guy Grand

    Palsy-impaired second unit director of "Bourne" and "Quantum," dear God help us. Whatever the "invasion" is, we'll be treated to smash-cut close-ups of a parachute string, twitchy knuckles, a blurred student running out of frame, a truck tire coming to a halt, a tight-framed gun barrel shooting a few rounds, and other apopleptic Eisenstein trim-bin cuts that, as a whole, show what a lack of talent this hack will be. Give me a living, breathing, panoramic, Frankenheimer "Ronan" car chase anyday.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Another joke from Hollywood.

    by ClarenceBeaks

    Thanks for letting me save my money once again.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Who are the bad guys?

    by johnnyangelheart

    It was implausible enough that we'd be invaded by the Soviets and the Cubans, but who now? Or is this suposed to be set back in the Cold War again?

  • June 17, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay is an ASSHOLE

    by S-Mart shopper

  • June 17, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    So Thor is a Wolverine?

    by jim

  • June 17, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Is what i read correct?

    by The Elvish Chef

    This is going to be set in Spokane, WA??? My interest is piqued because I'm FROM there....but this seems like playing with the story a little TOO much.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    What's the title gonna be?

    by palimpsest

    Surely RED DAWN makes no sense if the baddies ain't the USSR?

  • June 17, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    As for Adrianne

    by jim

    she can Palicki me any day!

  • June 17, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    There are several options

    by chrth

    The original was in an "alternate timeline" ... either the remake could be in another "alternate timeline" (for example, instead of 9/11 being an isolated attack, subsequent attacks on the US -- and more attacks like London and Madrid in Europe -- has rendered the western world unstable, and when a massive famine hits China or the USSR, they invade the US), or in the same alternate as the first movie, with a similar theme and references back to the original. I reckon the former is more likely.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Artie Lange as the tough as nails heart of gold . . .

    by Falafalguy

    leader with mysterious past and a woman who he left behind for a woman he could nver forget that carries with him a secret that can save us all.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Chinese and Russians?

    by andrew coleman

    This movie will be stupid to watch before it starts. Why in hell would they invade the US that makes no sense. China and the US are so tied up economically they would never fight. Why not make it North Korea and Iran? Or hell Mexico at least that invasion is actually happening. So that would work perfectly.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Animas

    by gavdiggity

    The same reason the cast C. Thomas Howell. You're telling me he wasn't a pretty boy?

  • June 17, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Because Iran and North Korea don't have the infrastructure

    by chrth

    You honestly think Iran or North Korea could invade the US? How? By wishing themselves here? Perhaps they dig up a cache of flying carpets? Or maybe surfboards?<p> You need an opponent with the military infrastructure to stage a large-scale invasion of the US in order to make this work. That leaves: Russia and China. Famine is the easiest motivator, intertwined economies be damned.

  • June 17, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    The invaders in the remake will clearly be

    by gavdiggity

    Canadian. <P> The "red" part will come from the maple leaf on their flag. Let's make it happen, people.

  • i.e., a unified mid-east Islamic superpower. One has to imagine, though, the logistics of invading the US from so remote a location is daunting.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    gavdiggity, there was an SNL skit like that

    by jim

    It was a parody of the Mini-Series "Amerika" (V, but Russians instead of aliens, and with Kris Kirstofferson)

  • June 17, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    ANOTHER REMAKE?!?

    by rgc123

    Really??? Besides, this story doesn't really hold up today unless the invaders are aliens (the War of the Worlds, Independence Day type; not the illegal ones)

  • June 17, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Interesting How Obsessed The US Is With Invasion Stories

    by LaserPants

    When they're the only ones doing the invading.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    This was a stupid fucking movie the first time around...

    by Pdorwick

    ...but at least it had some political relevance; I mean seriously, who's a afraid of communists these days?

  • June 17, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    You could call it "Red, White & Blue Dawn"...

    by Pdorwick

    ...and have a bunch of Iraqi teenagers fight back against a certain marauding imperial force but then that's so far-fetched...

  • June 17, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Um, no?

    by David Assholehoff

    The original was soooo good. What a cast it had. Now we get the Nickelodeon rejects casting agency trying to keep their "actors" in work. At least get the other actor from Jake and Drosh to also be in it, so they can play themselves and die on the big screen. Get the iCarly chick to play Thompson's role...?

  • June 17, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    yawn yawn

    by chrth

  • June 17, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Saved By The Screech

    by David Assholehoff

    Oh, and get Screech to be the "Avenge me!!!" guy.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    THE INVADERS WILL BE...

    by BILLY_BOOMSTICK

    The Chinese will be the initial invaders, and the Russians will join in during the movies 2nd act. Latinoreview.com has a moderate-spoiler script review over at their site. The motivation for the invasion is economic-based... the U.S. is indebted to China (in real life and in the movie.) When China invades Taiwan for strategic purposes, the U.S. refuses to pay the debt until China withdraws it's forces from Taiwan... China attacks the U.S. through actual invasion and through cyber-warfare (think Die Hard 4.) The reason the movie is set in Spokane, WA is due to China's inability to invade through the Bering Strait (Russia is not involved initially) so they invade the entire Western coast (after all, they do have the man-power to do this!) The kids create an insurgency, and it is not until the arrival of the "Powers Boothe" character that they learn that the Russians have joined the Chinese in the fight.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    One Man's Insurgent Is Another Man's Freedom Fighter

    by LaserPants

    and vice versa.

  • Wow, that sounds pretty damn ridiculous. Hopefully an economist reads the script before they start filming.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Spokane, WA

    by mordiceius

    Okay having it set in Spokane is cool. I used to live 20 minutes from there. That tidbit of news turned me from completely dismissive to cautiously interested.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    queer bait like a mutherfooker

    by redfist

  • June 17, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    chrth

    by BILLY_BOOMSTICK

    I don't write the scripts, but I imagine that this movie will not be well received in China (or Russia.)

  • June 17, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Fortress America

    by Kaladrax

    Anyone on here remember the old Milton Bradley game called Fortress America? The concept was that the US is being invaded from the East by Russia, West by China, and south by Central America/Cuba. <p> The object for the American player was to resist the invaders by stalling with guerilla warfare until the satellite solar powered superweapon laser defense system up and running to repel the invaders. <p> Now that would make a fine action movie!

  • June 17, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    It's not that, Billy_Boomstick

    by chrth

    The fact is that if the US refused to pay a single dollar of interest on one of their treasury bonds -- regardless of reason -- its economy would collapse. Completely. And it wouldn't hurt China -- they could sell at face value to another creditor nation. The only reason one would ever refuse payment on an outstanding debt like that was if you were adopting mercantilism, and it would be so painful a situation for the citizens it wouldn't work in a democratic government, especially once that has such massive federal outlays.<p> The only reason China would invade would be to prevent the US from dissolving entirely, thus protecting their investment. But the situation in the States would be so chaotic its doubtful anyone would want to defend it.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Kaladrax: Thank goodness Canada was neutral!

    by chrth

  • June 17, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Oh Yeah...

    by BILLY_BOOMSTICK

    The MAIN motivation is due to dwindling resources... i.e. crops (like the original Red Dawn). The Chinese feel that the invasion is justified due to the U.S.'s refusal to repay their debt... ALSO, the U.S. refuses to buy or trade goods with the Chinese as a result of their attack on Taiwan.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    chrth

    by BILLY_BOOMSTICK

    I am in no way defending the script, I am just telling you guys what latinoreview.com reported.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Refusing to buy/trade goods makes a little more sense

    by chrth

    I was about to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Chinese exports generate more income for China than the interest on the bonds. But again, a lot of companies in the US would go out of business if there was an embargo on China, which would devastate the economy.<p> If they're smart, they dump the financial reasons entirely. It'll kill a lot of the believability of the film.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    BILLY_BOOMSTICK: I know, I'm not blaming you ;)

    by chrth

  • June 17, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Yes the enemies could be the Trade Federation!

    by Arteska

  • June 17, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    We are......

    by Andyb77

    only a couple of suitcase nukes away from being easily invaded.

  • June 17, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    so they're remaking a movie that had an allstar cast

    by smackfu

    with a remake featuring a bunch of nobodies? Sounds like a great idea.

  • June 17, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Adrianne

    by Judge Briggs

    I want to lick her butt. So hot.

  • June 17, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    "LET IT TURN TO SOMETHING ELSE!!"

    by Bob Cryptonight

  • June 17, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Josh Peck should be banned from acting because of that hairstyle

    by Bob Cryptonight

    I'm thinking of an insult that ends with "bag."

  • June 17, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Spokane could use an invasion...

    by gavdiggity

    what a hole that place is.

  • June 17, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Red Dawn: Fighting the invasion of Obama followers

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • June 17, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    People, it's set in Spokane so they can

    by Quin the Eskimo

    shoot in Vancouver.

  • June 17, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Hmmm

    by Blade_Runner

    Seeing as the "Red" Russians couldn't even invade Russia these days, will the Red threat be the Chinese?

  • June 17, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    We can see Russia from our house

    by terry1978

    That would be an awesome tagline.

  • June 17, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Yeah,China invades America

    by palpatinefuckedmydog

    And goes wire-fu on all these gay-ass Wolverines.

  • June 17, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    anyone who's ever bought a car from Korea

    by Muki

    knows all too fucking well they don't have the technology to mount a serious invasion of anywhere.

  • June 17, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    But...

    by palpatinefuckedmydog

    Adrianne can Palicki myDicki anytime ;-)

  • June 17, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Red White and Blue Dawn

    by johnnyangelheart

    A large western nation invades a Middle Eastern country suspected of possessing some of the same weapons the large western nation possesses. Abdul and the boys fight back.

  • June 17, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Shouldn't the US be the invaders? Set it somewhere else.

    by Flim Springfield

  • June 17, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    by Omar B

    I've only heard of the guy from Star Trek.

  • June 17, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Could you have found a gayer picture of Daddy Kirk?

    by zooch

  • June 17, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    LAWL

    by Dr. Samuel Loomis

    I'm noticing more and more Samuel's popping up recently. I'm flattered. And Zooch, took the words right out of my mouth, if anything, that pic was his first ever in the biz years and years ago. I dare them to flash that on the living action Thor talkbacks, they'd get their asses handed to em.

  • June 17, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    by Dr. Samuel Loomis

    Pardon me, before i'm hounded by Microsoft Spell Check, I mean Live Action Thor* Thank you

  • June 17, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    red dawn 90210

    by Turd Furgeson

    Why why why is this happening? The original is so damn good! And this new version sound like star wars ep1 with trade goods and debts. Fucking bullshit!

  • June 17, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Gotta be the russians again

    by HarryBlackPotter

    cos they've still got the nukes and theyve already taken control of the eurovision song contest and their leader Putin is pure KGB.And he wrestles bears for kicks

  • June 17, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Dear everyone who thinks the original is good:

    by gavdiggity

    you probably haven't watched it recently. It's the cheesiest kind of jingoistic crap that we were inundated with during the cold war (Iron Eagle is another one, off the top of my head). <P> This is not to say I don't love Red Dawn... I saw it several times in the theater. Of course, I was 10 at the time, so everything seemed awesome back then. Try giving it another go... it's fun in the same way Roadhouse is fun, but it ain't cinematic brilliance.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Why does this need a remake?

    by GeorgieBoy

    Is it going to be ruskies attacking again? Or maybe islamic terrorists? Or perhaps liberal terrorists? The last one would make the most sense.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Don't

    by Fettster_uk

    Don't CGI it to shit, don't get politicly correct and most of all don't fuck it up!

  • June 17, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Make it a homegrown insurgency

    by Anal Inflictor

    against Obama and his hostile takeover of everything in the United States. <br><br> But why make Jed a Marine? The point of the original was to show a group of teens mature through the stress and horror of war on their own homeland. Call it jingoistic crap, but the original made sense and although it, like Amerika, vastly overestimated the Soviets resources and ability to wage war. Methinks every mofo in that town would have had a gun and would have fucked those spic-ruskies up.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Why not remake Invasion USA?

    by gavdiggity

    I'm sure Chuck Norris can take time off from shilling for Republican political candiates to could reprise his role as Matt Hunter.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    or candiDates...

    by gavdiggity

    if you prefer.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    RECAST THIS WITH IRAQI OR AFGHAN TEENS

    by Mullah Omar

    Bring a bit of realism into this. <br> <br> I'm not saying that as any sort of political statement, but if you are going to do a remake, take the concept and REALLY overhaul it. At the time the original RED DAWN came out, I'd bet a lot of people could actually imagine something like that happening. I don't think many people would say the same about today. If they really want to do something innovative and thought-provoking, they should set this in Afghanistan or Iraq, make the US the invaders, and let it evolve as a basic "you mess with my neighborhood, you mess with me" film. It doesn't necessarily make the US soldiers the bad guys, it just sets up a tragic situation where everybody follows orders and does what they think is right. Even the original had the sympathetic Cuban guy and some other very dark situations despite all its rah-rah moments. <br> <br> I don't think the original RED DAWN was the throwaway dumb movie a lot of people probably infer from its oversaturated TV appearances around July 4 or Memorial Day. Reworking the concept could truly be worthwhile if they REALLY reimagined it and not just retread the first film.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    MUllah Omar

    by gavdiggity

    this: they should set this in Afghanistan or Iraq, make the US the invaders, and let it evolve as a basic "you mess with my neighborhood, you mess with me" film. <P> would never, ever happen. Not in Hollywood, anyway. Red Dawn was about good, red-blooded teenagers killing evil Russians. Hell, they played football, so you KNOW they were true patriots. It was adolescent fantasy, pure and simple; The Breakfast Club with bullets.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Is this Abercrombie & Fitch or what?

    by Orbots Commander

    What's with the shirtless dude? (Looks sideways at the gang at Aintitcool.) <p> Anyway, I'm not too up in arms about this particular remake. Yes, the original is a guilty pleasure. But let's remember that the original starred then teeny-bopper heartthrobs, Patrick Swayze and C. Thomas Howell. <p> The only thing I'll miss is John Milius' distinct, signature kookiness and red-meat action. The new version will likely be a toothless, quick cut forgettable flick that looks like a music video, that features teens fighting back using their iPhones and shooting guns sideways.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Is this Abercrombie & Fitch or what?

    by Orbots Commander

    What's with the shirtless dude? (Looks sideways at the gang at Aintitcool.) <p> Anyway, I'm not too up in arms about this particular remake. Yes, the original is a guilty pleasure. But let's remember that the original starred then teeny-bopper heartthrobs, Patrick Swayze and C. Thomas Howell. <p> The only thing I'll miss is John Milius' distinct, signature kookiness and red-meat action. The new version will likely be a toothless, quick cut forgettable flick that looks like a music video, that features teens fighting back using their iPhones and shooting guns sideways.

  • June 17, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Ack, what's with the double post?

    by Orbots Commander

    Edit button, Harry. Edit button.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    MGM's remake of John Milius' RED DAWN?

    by banditmania

    For crying out loud, Hollywood, come up with something original.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    White Dawn: Canada

    by Harold-Sherbort

    You're going down, eh.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    gavdiggity, just because RD was jingoistic doesn't make it bad.

    by Walterego

    There are lots of great movies which reflect the wartime attitudes of the public. Consider Hitchcock's classic "Lifeboat" or the brilliant though paranoid cold war era "Mancurian Candidate". These movies are products of the tensions and anxieties of their time. Prior to Gorbachev the USSR seemed likely to go to war with the USA at some point, and after Vietnam but before afghanistan, the US seemed on the defensive, gradually losing the dominos of the cold war. Iron Eagle is a much worse film because it is totally implausible - a teenager steals a F16 and with another F16 whips an entire military and rescues a parent on the ground. That's just absurd. Whereas history of guerilla wars are full of stories of young people becoming effective partisans. Just look at the history of Russia when the Nazis invaded. The wolverines tactics were straight out of news accounts and military analysis of the mujahedin and viet cong, and the script was written by John Milius with great attention to detail and subtlety. Just look at the complexity of the Cuban commander writing letters to his wife, the crush that Lea Thompson has on the older Powers Boothe, where she asks him if he's married and what his wife is like, where the movie implies the girls have been raped and so they don't talk much but doesn't spell it out blatantly. The downbeat ending on the swingset. The moral ambiguity of the execution of the turncoat, begging forgiveness, while the russian asks him to say he is his friend so that he won't die alone. For an escapist action film starring "brat-pack" actors, it has more realism and poinancy than any film version of The Lord Of The Flies or other similar films like Taps, and is better written than most films of its genre.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    someone asked

    by Bloo

    wasn't the original an all-star cast...at the time, no it wasn't, it was a bunch of nobodies who ended up being all stars...I think Thompson had only done that football flick with Cruise and Coach before that, Swayze and Grey hadn't yet done Dirty Dancing

  • June 17, 2009, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Since Bradley is directing maybe he'll actually let us see what

    by SnootyBoots

    instead of having the camera crew bounce around his stunt work on pogo sticks. Actually, unless this turns out to be some kind of masterwork, I probably won't see it. Never saw the original. No interest in this one.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    he's known for

    by SnootyBoots

  • June 17, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Saw the first one in the cinema when it came out

    by Baryonyx

    I really liked some of John Milius' work (Conan The Barbarian especially), but Red Dawn was crap. Remake looks to be pretty awful too.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Walterego, you're right...

    by gavdiggity

    what made it bad was the dialogue and the performances. C. Thomas Howell magically becoming a badass after he drinks deer's blood? Subtlety in the script like, "AVENGE MEEEEE!"? Or the refined characterization of the character of the Russian general, scowling his lines... he might as well have been twirling his moustache and chuckling like a Bond villain. <P> Read my previous posts again... I loved the movie, and it still has a special spot in my heart... it's just not a very good movie. (I feel the same way about Goonies- it was great when I was a kid, but it doesn't really hold up). I've said it before, and I'll say it again... nostalgia is a bitch.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    "refined characterization of the character "

    by gavdiggity

    ugh, terribly written sentence, sorry... I'm distracted by things up at work. You get my drift, though.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Mullah Omar, if it was remade that way then the Wolverines would

    by Walterego

    It just isn't possible to present Taliban or sectarian Iraqi insurgents in a heroic light without ignoring suicide mass casualty bombings, beheadings, the racist attitudes (suni arab iraqi insurgents killing shiites and vice versa, Iraqi Al Qaeda killing everyone who isn't a wahabi fundamentalist). I mean, if the Wolverines were an accurate depiction of the Taliban or Iraqi Alqaeda or some similar insurgent group, then they'd be genocidal, and how do you have genocidal protagonists? Also, Red Dawn was a depiction of a worst case scenario for the US. I agree that the producers wimped out in choosing China as the antagonist, which makes no sense even if China did outpace the US as an economic superpower. The truest modernized version of Red Dawn would have the entire muslim world united against the US and invading it, and attempting to impose sharia law on the US. Which is a ludicrously far-fetched storyline, but at least true to the spirit of the original Red Dawn. However Hollywood would never in a million years make a film that would be so politically incorrect and demonizing of muslims, hollywood bends over backwards to depict terrorists in most movies as sinister eastern european or german nazi-esque types, generally played by British actors, even though there hasn't been a terrorist group from there since the Bader-Meinhoff gang. on the rare occaisions when they do have muslims as terrorists (the Siege, True Lies etc), they get lots of protests and are accused by the press of exploiting prejudice. So they have completely wimped out and made the bizarre decision of the chinese as the villains. One thing you have to give the original RD, at least it had a point of view about a real conflict.

  • June 17, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Walterego, the kids wouldn't need to be Al Qaeda

    by Mullah Omar

    It just needs to be a group of kids who don't like the fact that somebody invaded their country. <br> <br> Also, if you used Afghanistan as the setting, you'd have a more rural story to tell and you could avoid having the protagonists involved in urban warfare or civilian encounters. <br> <br> Now it WOULD be interesting to see these kids, after they established themselves, finally run into an Al Qaeda-style group that targeted civilians rather than just military targets. It would be interesting to see if they embraced it or were repelled by the idea. You could make a strong case for the latter. And you could add tragedy to the finale if you eventually killed off some or all of the protagonists, because then they'd have simply been patriotic kids defending their home from what they viewed as an invader, as teens in the US would have done. It wouldn't have to be good versus evil, and protagonists could be insurgents without being terrorists. Like in RED DAWN.

  • June 17, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Gav- I agree about the russian general, he's way over the top

    by Walterego

    The speech where he monologues about being a Hunter, and the other Russian general with the creepy accent. However these characters are foils to contrast with the Cuban played by Ron "Superfly" O Neal. But I think it makes sense that Howell drinks the deers blood, and it is the first step to him becoming the more psychotic (not badass) Wolverine. He gradually loses it and develops a bit of a death wish. Which I think is another smart touch. These characters have well defined personalities. Think how many war dramas have characters that are totally interchangable and generic. My guess is that the new RD will have characters that will be way more shallow than the original. Lastly, "avenge meee", well Stanton was playing a kind of a blue collar type, the colorado equivalent of a redneck. Which is totally real for that environment. A lesser film would have had the boys save their father or some other heroic contrivance. In RD the father figures keep getting killed, then nearly all the Wolverines get killed, and in the end all they have left to show for their sacrifice is a memorial, which is only visited by their surviving Wolverine veterans. See the parallels to Vietnam and how that would have resonated in 1984? Milius made that film as a teen action film for the breakfast club crowd, sure, but he also packed a lot of analogies into it that make it relevant.

  • June 17, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    The only thing Red Dawn should be remembered for

    by palpatinefuckedmydog

    is that it's the first PG-13 rated movie.Other than that,it was a piece of shit.

  • June 17, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Walter-

    by gavdiggity

    Howell doesn't really lose it gradually... he's a sniveling pussy one minute, a savage commando the next. Leah Thompson developing the crush on Powers Boothe struck me as predictable and obvious, even when I was a little kid. Stanton delivering that particular line the way he did is laughable, chomping on the scenery like he was Pac Man. I don't disagree about the believability of the tactics they used (the scene where they popped up out of the holes in the field was very Cong-esque). While I do see your point (and I'm actually not sure what to do with such a civil exchange- neither of us resorting to calling the other a douchebag, etc), I just disagree. There's plenty of material that strikes me as cheesy now. <P> Now, in keeping with the general vibe of most talkbacks, go fuck your mother's cock, you douchebag.

  • June 17, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Is this the first or second part of Twilight II?

    by Sal_Bando

    Boys this looks BAD.

  • June 17, 2009, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Omar

    by Walterego

    I see your idea, but Red Dawn was set in the not too distant future, whereas you're talking about a film set in the recent past - Iraq in 2003 or afghanistan in the past few years. So it would be impossible to separate the protagonists from real life equivalents. If they were iraqi insurgents, then they wouldn't necessarily be Alqaeda but they would have to be sunni insurgents hostile to shiites and kurds, opposed to democratic government placing them under the rule of shiites, and who would have emulated the mass casualty tactics of Alqaeda. Or else they'd be shiite militia in the Mahdi Army loyal to Muqtada Al Sadr. Those are the only groups who significantly fought the US occupation forces. So the drama of would the protagonists resort to terroristic tactics against their countrymen or not, would be devoid of suspense, because we know from recent history that they did. So it would be phony to show them being repelled by the idea of targeting civilians because that would mean totally ignoring the sectarian hatred that dominated the insurgency. Remember, the Iraq war wasn't really between US and an indigenous resistance, it was a sectarian civil war in which the US was a faction allied to the Shiite-dominated govt, but in which the overwhelming majority of the killing was arab-on-arab. The only way I could see for the movie you describe to work it would have to have the protagonists be members of the Sunni Awakening movement which ultimately sided with the US and rejected sectarian conflict, except that would mean a Red Dawn in which the protagonists take the side of the invader in the end. The other way it could work is for it to be set in some future war with some fictional muslim country. Like it's the year 2016 and President Hilary Clinton/Sarah Palin invades "Aranistan", leading to the kind of plot you describe.

  • June 17, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Gav, well agree to disagree.

    by Walterego

    And at least my mother's cock is twice as big as yours, you microphallus homotard.

  • June 17, 2009, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Red State Dawn

    by NinjaChampion

    Copy the premise from the Jericho tv show. Nukes go off across the country and terrorists are blamed. Civil war between government loyal forces and rebel forces trying to take over country. Red states vs blue states?

  • Kudos, gentlemen. Kudos.

  • June 17, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    If it wasn't for that last pic of the chick...

    by Prossor

    this talkback would be near stallone dick vein or the chub-sporting nazi levels of gay.

  • June 17, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    There's another $20......

    by Bastard_Chief

    I won't be spending at the theater to see this pile of shit!

  • June 17, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    this time it's

    by frank cotton

    the Mexicans

  • June 17, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Red Dawn was unintentionally brilliant

    by Continentalop

    Red Dawn was the perfect metaphor for what happened in Viet Nam - a powerful foreign force meeting a home grown resistance. Red Dawn basically advocates and explains why the North Viet Nam Army and the Viet Cong had to fight the way they did and why the had to use unconventional means. It basically takes a US audience and gets them to relate to a Viet Cong rebel. <p> Now I am not saying that we were as bad as the Russians in Red Dawn, or that the Viet Cong and Ho Chi Minh should be put on a pedestal, but the basic fact is must people resist foreign powers because they are foreign, or as Patrick Swayze said it best when rationalizing the tactics they were using and why they should be allowed to kill the Russians, "Because we live here!" <p> Millius made the best defense of the Viet Cong ever.

  • June 17, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    "a Marine home on leave

    by TopHat

  • June 17, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    "a Marine home on leave" Jesus...

    by TopHat

    ...You know what this is going to be, yet another one of those "Marines are GODS" Republican Hollywood fodder. Great job guys. We're still going through a bullshit war, and what do you do? You make a movie glorifying the "we'll stick a boot up your ass" idiots. Guess what. The real reason why we keep getting into bullshit conflicts? Its because we keep romanicising soldiers and the douchebags who want to fight everyone. We just got done suffering through eight years of a redneck idiot who thought he was Jesus' voice and led us all into a perfect storm of shit ...only to come out of it glorifying the same bullheaded ignorant attitudes via a cast right out of GOSSIP GIRL. Watch the original RED DAWN again. WE'RE the invading army. The IRAQIS are the "Wolverines". Next time you read about a suicide bomber killing some of our military in Iraq, just imagine the bomber screaming "WOLVERINES!!!" right before blowing up. THAT'S what you should be making this movie about. Show American people from the midwest getting tortured like in gitmo. Show some baby-faced Disney teen star running into a convoy strapped with explosives. THAT is what these war-hungery morons need to see. Not another "anti-war" pro-fighting movie for the DAYS OF THUNDER crowd.

  • June 17, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    "The IRAQIS are the "Wolverines". "

    by chrth

    Am I the only person who remembers that Saddam Hussein killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis during his reign?

  • June 17, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST

    The defense rests

    by TopHat

  • June 17, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Whoever is invading

    by kabong

    has won.

  • June 17, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Swayze on chemo is tougher than these

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    posers. The thought of remaking Red Dawn just sickens me.

  • June 17, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Walterego, creative license is a must

    by Mullah Omar

    I'd be on board with setting this in a fictional country in the future. I had actually assumed in previous that while the setting could be real, the story could take a lot of liberties. But now that you mention it, it is probably just easier to invest a country that looks and feels like Afghanistan but has another name. <br> <br> Anyway, the bottom line is that for a truly fresh take on RED DAWN, the US should be the invader and patriotic kids from some other culture should fight back. And as I said, this doesn't mean the US soldiers would be the villains of the piece. Even the original RED DAWN was more subtle than to condemn all of the invaders.

  • June 17, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    smackfu when Red Dawn was made none

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    of the stars in it were famous. Some may have already been in a movie or two, but it was pretty much Red Dawn that started them out. Swayze, Sheen, Howell, Grey, Thompson. They weren't really known before this movie.

  • June 17, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    You can't sell US as invaders

    by chrth

    You can't. It would be fantastic to realize, but no Hollywood studio would back it. Too much risk, not enough reward. Maybe an independent film could try, but not a Red Dawn remake.

  • June 17, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Bring back Swayze!

    by palooka_boy

    and make this the Swayziest remake of them all!

  • June 17, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Saddam Hussein's Crimes Against His Own People

    by LaserPants

    were committed with the US's blessing during the 80s when we inexplicably armed him to fight Iran. See, that was back when he was a "Freedom Fighter" before he became an "Evil Doer" (code for: He pissed off the Oil Barons). Shit, we even GAVE him the conventional weapons, training, and VX Gas to do it with (no doubt we also gave him torture tips as well)! So, chrth, really, you're right, Saddam Hussein was a bad guy -- A BAD GUY ON OUR PAY ROLL.

  • June 17, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    I crack my shit everytime I see DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD in caps..

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    hahaha

  • June 17, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Powers Booth was the only good part of RED DAWN.

    by Bob Cryptonight

    A good movie could be made from the idea, but Milius fucked it up.

  • June 17, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Has Hemsworth started beefing up for Thor yet?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    He looks like a Calvin Klein model, rather than a warrior (i.e. someone in UFC).

  • June 17, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    LaserPants

    by Continentalop

    I wouldn't say he had our blessing back then as much as we turned a blind eye but if you remember right we were nervous as fuck because Iran. A very anti-American regime had just come in, so it was somewhat understandable that we would ally ourselves with someone who also was worried about them. We also allied with Stalin during WWII, and he was far from a saint. <p> I have no problem that we went into Iraq to get rid of Saddam, what I have a problem with is the criminally incompetent manner which we did. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield went in there with out the backing of the rest of the world's leaders (which would have given us some sort of support instead of relying on all of our and Britain's resources, and a resemblance of legitimacy), with far less men than almost every military expert recommended, and without planning whatsoever for the post war reconstruction. On top of it, we went in there under a false premise making the entire invasion look like colonialism and imperialism all over again. <p> They should of followed the Powell Doctrine. <p> Having said all that, I completely disagree about what TopHat said about glorifying soldiers. I might hate the invasion of Iraq and the people who planned it, but I have upmost respect for people in uniform, especially those who enlist in time of war. First off, they are actually placing service ahead of their own lives and are actually sacrificing comfort and security for a greater cause. You might disagree with the cause, but it is a completely selfish action. <p> Secondly, even if they do support the war at least they are putting their money where there mouth is, or their lives where there mouth is. Unlike the rah-rah supporters here at home, they are walking the talk. <p> Also, no matter how bungled the invasion was we still have a moral obligation to try and help Iraq build. The Pottery Barn rule if you will. I am a hypocrite for not re-enlisting because I believe we have a moral obligation to the Iraqis and their neighbors in the middle-east that we make sure we undo some of the damage we did during the bungled invasion (yes Saddam was a dictator, but at least they had a functioning country). And finally, the majority of soldiers are just like anyone else - good, bad, whatever. I don't think they are intrinsically better than most people but I do think are military usually tries to do the right thing. Any abuses of prisoners and/or mistakes made, the majority of the fault falls on politicians or those commanding the war - not the soldiers. If you have a military force that has unclear rules or lack of discipline than you'll have people breaking the rules. I am not saying there hasn't been abuses and even crimes, but I think if they have happened they were the caused by the rare "bad apple" or because of poor decisions of their commanders and/or politicians back home.

  • June 17, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    UPDATE...

    by BILLY_BOOMSTICK

    According to latinoreview.com, Tony Gilroy has been brought onboard to "polish" the Red Dawn script! Tony Gilroy is responsible for the fantastic Michael Clayton and the screenplays for all three Bourne films. This could be interesting...

  • June 17, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    "What's up her ass!"

    by TylerDurden3395

    That's the best part of the original. Any time you can hint at ass rape in a PG-13 movie, you're winning.

  • June 17, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Miyamoto_Musashi

    by BILLY_BOOMSTICK

    Hemsworth has started to beef up. He was on T.V. recently, and he looks a much bigger than in the above pic. Shooting on Thor won't start until January, so he has time to get even bigger. take a look... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CcE5YasUic

  • June 17, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    humaity out of stories

    by eROKv

    seriously - does anyone have some new stories to tell out there? THE FUCKING REMAKES MUST STOP NOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

  • June 17, 2009, 11:24 p.m. CST

    SamuelLapdance

    by Toe Jam

    I knew the original was filmed in New Mexico, but wasn't that just a stand-in for the story's setting of Colorado? Either way, I don't care much to see a Washington State-set "Red Dawn." Here's hoping the "Cliffhanger" remake will be shot/set/both in Colorado, unlike the original, which was shot in fucking Italy, of all places.

  • June 18, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Gay Dawn?

    by foreigndevil

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

  • June 18, 2009, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Do the Chinese need to invade ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Would like to see an over the top futuristic movie, where the American government sells California to the Chinese to pay off its debts. They will of course request that the stars of Baywatch are part of the deal, even though Pam will be 60ish and sagging.

  • June 18, 2009, 2:33 a.m. CST

    never watched red dawn

    by TheExterminator

    properly....always looked shit to me. im sure you yanks love it tho hurr durr

  • June 18, 2009, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Dan Bradley.... use a tripod.

    by Seph_J

    and I couldn't be happier that the Chinese are going to be the invaders this time.....Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China Fuck China

  • June 18, 2009, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Okay...

    by SunTzu77

    the casting is crap... they went the CW route. Grab some mediocre actors that look like models. I don't know why China would want to invade the U.S.... they own 700 billion of our debt already.

  • June 18, 2009, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Reader advisory

    by The StarWolf

    What with the reruns outnumbering the original shows on TV, the Internet TV GUIDE had taken to pointing out the new/original episodes to help them stand out from the sea of repeats. Now that Hokeywood seems to mostly have forgotten how to mak original movies, perhaps a similar advisory would help here, too. To wit "This is a brand new film, not a remake" in the article header?

  • June 18, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Small town, rural America VS. Boredom.

    by Dingbatty

    Or Meth addiction.

  • June 18, 2009, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Adrianne Palicki

    by HagCeli

    Yummy yummy

  • June 18, 2009, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Red Dawn

    by HagCeli

    Was a good film actually. Reagan-era propaganda, for sure. But it had gripping storytelling and a darn fine cast of young actors. The remake won't work, though. The cold war is over and there is no cold war these days. Nobody's going to see this.

  • June 18, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Invasion 90210...

    by Marshal_Lannes

    Science will have to invent a new physics term to describe how bad this flick is gonna suck...

  • June 18, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    BOYS! AVENGE THE ORIGINAL! AVENGE THE ORIGINAL!

    by Davidhessstation

    Glad to see Hollywood still casts TV stars and models in their films.

  • June 18, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    I like Josh Beck, I want to see him in more roles...

    by Cap'n Jack

  • June 18, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    I mean Peck, of course.

    by Cap'n Jack

  • June 18, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    A remake of Shit will be SHIT. Go see DRAG ME TO HELL instead

    by NoDiggity

    Why are you wasting time with these bad movies when Sam Raimi's fantastic "Drag Me to Hell" is still in theaters? Join the "Drag Me To Hell" talkback! <br><br> http://tinyurl.com/ll7s4p <br><br> http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/40453

  • June 18, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    New Red Dawn

    by pita1963

    if it ain't taking place in Colorado , i'm not seeing it ....

  • June 18, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Milius Has An Apolitical View Of War...

    by Buzz Maverik

    He's an intelligent man, of course, and knows that war is fought for political reasons, but that war itself and often the warriors are political. His Captain Willard and Colonel Kurtz and Killgore all fought because that was simply what they did. Milius has said that war is as inevitable as rain. It's going to rain. The Red Dawn kids weren't political (nobody was really all that political back in the '80s. I was in college and we voted for Reagan because the hippies told us not to). The Wolverines were simply defending themselves and defending their home. The brilliant thing about 90% of the movie is that the audience doesn't know anything the kids don't know. We don't really know why the Commies attacked, what's going on anywhere else, etc. We get a little info from Powers, but mostly it doesn't matter because if the kids stop fighting they'll eventually be rounded up and probably used as slave labor or killed (if they're lucky).

  • June 18, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Original Cast Star Status When RD Made...

    by Buzz Maverik

    Yep, we'd seen Howell in ET and in the OUTSIDERS with Swayze and Darren Dalton. Lea Thompson had been in ALL THE RIGHT MOVES. Jennifer Grey (who had a great nose and used to be so good looking)and Charlie Sheen hadn't really been in any major or minor motion pictures in a theater near you.

  • June 19, 2009, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Buzz Maverik

    by Prossor

    I think Milius has it right with that rain view. It's human nature for conflict, some people talk about utopia or some bullshit like it don't realize there will always be war and conflict. It's how we deal with it that defines us. We're meant to be imperfect, take the good with the bad.

  • June 19, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Oh and speaking of wolverine

    by emeraldboy

    The story went something like this. In the buzz surrounding the who leaked wolverine print leak story it was alleged that Harry and Moriarity were some how complicit in getting Roger friedman fired. It was thought that he got sacked for admitting to downloading the alleged print. Well things have taken a new turn. Friedman is suing the chutrch of Socientology after Friedman attacked them repeatedly on fox news. IN friedmans suit he is alleging that they got him fired.

  • June 19, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    If someone shouts "WOLVERINES" and Jackman shows up

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • June 19, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    I'm leaving!

    by MrMysteryGuest