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UPDATE With Clip: Top 10 Things Overheard At 'Fire David Letterman' Rally!! Village Voice: 'Anti-Letterman Rally Draws Dozens'!!
From Tuesday's Village Voice:
"New York Anti-Letterman Rally Draws Dozens"
The whole list:
THE "LATE SHOW" TOP TEN
"Things Overheard at the ‘Fire David Letterman’ Rally"
10. “David who?”
9. “Well, it was nice of CBS to provide the catering.”
8. “We should have done this years ago.”
7. “What idiot turned Broadway into a pedestrian mall?”
6. “Isn’t there always a crowd demanding Letterman be fired?”
5. “March around the potholes, people.”
4. “Can we also get CBS to bring back ‘Gunsmoke’?”
3. “When does Cheney get here with the waterboarding gear?”
2. “He should apologize for that hairpiece.”
1. “Thanks for coming, Regis.”
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I’ve been watching David Letterman hosting late-night shows for more than a quarter century, and I’ve not heard him make a lot of jokes about raping 14-year-old children.
But former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her snowmobile-racing husband Todd claim to believe Letterman recently took a break from that “no jokes about raping 14-year-old girls” policy.
Now I heard joke in question, and it sounded to me like it was aimed less at 14-year-old Willow Palin (who to my knowledge has not recently experienced a pre-marital teen pregnancy) and more at 18-year-old daughter Bristol Palin, who took to preaching abstinence to her fellow teens shortly after she gave birth to her now former fiancé’s baby:
Because having consensual sex with an 18-year-old is not considered statutory rape in New York, Todd Palin might have been less inclined to employ the word "rape" had he believed the joke to be about Bristol.
Word is opponents of jokes involving the rape of 14-year-old Willow Palin are protesting outside the Ed Sullivan Theatre, where “The Late Show With David Letterman" is taped.
Though Letterman explained last week that he thought the joke to be about 18-year-old Bristol, apparently Willow was the only Palin daughter near Alex Rodriguez or his ballpark when the Palins visited Yankee Stadium. As a result, the Palins continue to complain about Dave joking about the rape of their teen.
(You’d think CBS late night exec Vinnie Favale or another network executive might have piped up when Dave started joking about the rape of a 14-year-old girl, but I guess Favale and and his colleagues were unaware that Bristol didn’t make the troublesome trip to New York. Let's hope Favale doesn't lose his job over the snafu.)
Letterman didn’t reference Sarah Palin’s continued discontent on his Friday show, but apparently brings it up again tonight.
CBS forwarded Letterman’s Monday-evening comments to TV Week:
"All right, here - I've been thinking about this situation with Governor Palin and her family now for about a week - it was a week ago tonight, and maybe you know about it, maybe you don't know about it. But there was a joke that I told, and I thought I was telling it about the older daughter being at Yankee Stadium. And it was kind of a coarse joke. There's no getting around it, but I never thought it was anybody other than the older daughter, and before the show, I checked to make sure in fact that she is of legal age, 18. Yeah. But the joke really, in and of itself, can't be defended. The next day, people are outraged. They're angry at me because they said, 'How could you make a lousy joke like that about the 14-year-old girl who was at the ball game?' And I had, honestly, no idea that the 14-year-old girl, I had no idea that anybody was at the ball game except the Governor and I was told at the time she was there with Rudy Giuliani...And I really should have made the joke about Rudy..." (audience applauds) "But I didn't, and now people are getting angry and they're saying, 'Well, how can you say something like that about a 14-year-old girl, and does that make you feel good to make those horrible jokes about a kid who's completely innocent, minding her own business,' and, turns out, she was at the ball game. I had no idea she was there. So she's now at the ball game and people think that I made the joke about her. And, but still, I'm wondering, 'Well, what can I do to help people understand that I would never make a joke like this?' I've never made jokes like this as long as we've been on the air, 30 long years, and you can't really be doing jokes like that. And I understand, of course, why people are upset. I would be upset myself.
"And then I was watching the Jim Lehrer 'Newshour' - this commentator, the columnist Mark Shields, was talking about how I had made this indefensible joke about the 14-year-old girl, and I thought, 'Oh, boy, now I'm beginning to understand what the problem is here. It's the perception rather than the intent.' It doesn't make any difference what my intent was, it's the perception. And, as they say about jokes, if you have to explain the joke, it's not a very good joke. And I'm certainly - " (audience applause) "- thank you. Well, my responsibility - I take full blame for that. I told a bad joke. I told a joke that was beyond flawed, and my intent is completely meaningless compared to the perception. And since it was a joke I told, I feel that I need to do the right thing here and apologize for having told that joke. It's not your fault that it was misunderstood, it's my fault. That it was misunderstood." (audience applauds) "Thank you. So I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the Governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I'm sorry about it and I'll try to do better in the future. Thank you very much." (audience applause)
Luckily, 7-year-old Piper Palin, like Bristol, was nowhere near A-Rod or Yankee Stadium that day, otherwise Dave might really be in hot water!
11:35 p.m. Monday. CBS.
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"Things Overheard at the ‘Fire David Letterman’ Rally"
10. “David who?”
9. “Well, it was nice of CBS to provide the catering.”
8. “We should have done this years ago.”
7. “What idiot turned Broadway into a pedestrian mall?”
6. “Isn’t there always a crowd demanding Letterman be fired?”
5. “March around the potholes, people.”
4. “Can we also get CBS to bring back ‘Gunsmoke’?”
3. “When does Cheney get here with the waterboarding gear?”
2. “He should apologize for that hairpiece.”
1. “Thanks for coming, Regis.”
"And then I was watching the Jim Lehrer 'Newshour' - this commentator, the columnist Mark Shields, was talking about how I had made this indefensible joke about the 14-year-old girl, and I thought, 'Oh, boy, now I'm beginning to understand what the problem is here. It's the perception rather than the intent.' It doesn't make any difference what my intent was, it's the perception. And, as they say about jokes, if you have to explain the joke, it's not a very good joke. And I'm certainly - " (audience applause) "- thank you. Well, my responsibility - I take full blame for that. I told a bad joke. I told a joke that was beyond flawed, and my intent is completely meaningless compared to the perception. And since it was a joke I told, I feel that I need to do the right thing here and apologize for having told that joke. It's not your fault that it was misunderstood, it's my fault. That it was misunderstood." (audience applauds) "Thank you. So I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the Governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I'm sorry about it and I'll try to do better in the future. Thank you very much." (audience applause)
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And his 1st question should be, "Why is your family so stupid?"
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...go up in smoke. The woman has the national reputation of a whiner. Lucy Ricardo is never going to be President.
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When will Dave be apologizing to A-Rod for calling him a pedophile?
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...in my neighborhood has a few realistic looking Sarah Palin blow up dolls for sale. They are on the wall next to the big rubber fists. I'm going to buy one so I can fuck Sarah in the ass while wearing a David Letterman mask. just to teach her a lesson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdFJ-hFFdI8
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Brilliant posts, absolutely BRILLIANT! Call the Palin family "stupid" and completely excuse Letterman. Well done, sir. Tolerance at is finest.
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pop-pop-popcorn!
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Anyone who supports them is a Grade A Twat.
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Abject stupidity should be tolerated. Seriously, the guy apologized. It was a crappy, tasteless joke. What more do you want? Ever since she deservedly lost the election, Palin has been on a non-stop pity train to nowhere, whining about how unfair the world's been to her to anyone who'll listen. It's beyond pitiful.
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GOP folks are desperate to try to get in any legitimate mudslinging they can at the so-called liberal media (which is why Palin made her stink on Fox news I presume). The fact is that Palin is just another stupid snow-hick with kids that fuck and have babies while they hypocritically speak against it. I'm still wondering if he rumors about Sarah Palin's baby actually being Bristol's first baby may have some truth to it. I wouldn't put it past them. They seem to have the whole Catholic-in-denial thing going real bad! The bottom line is that yeah Dave targeted the wrong kid which is unfortunate for all parties involved, but with the way the Palin's operate, I wouldn't doubt that Bristol won't be the only teen mom in that family in the next couple of years...
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Ha, the joke was hilarious and everyone knows - including the Palins - that Dave was talking about the trashy pregnant daughter, Bristol. Nobody even knows there's a kid between her and the one that licked the baby's hair.
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she gets to be on TV again....A normal person would have said "it was in poor taste" and let it go, or contacted Letterman directly.Palin blew it out of proportion, turned it into a "cause" all for her own personal benefit. SHE is profiting from the joke, SHE is using her children to get publicity.She is a putz. An attractive milfy putz, but still a putz.
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Palin is a bum for being some media whore with nothing substantive to offer the American people except the name of her favorite Mel Gibson movie ("MAVERICK!") and Letterman is a has-been douche who took a week to come to the realization that he was being a douche, courtesy of Mark fucking Shields saying so on the Lehrer show (which nobody watches!). We're approaching Tom Wolfe territory here. Seriously, America stay out of the Palins. They are a fucking mess. And as for Letterman, you were never the same since you jumped networks.
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THIS IS
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meaning that I am not a big fan of Palin. That being said, I think Letterman did the right thing with this apology. Okay, it is over. Let's all forget it and move on.
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Too bad Conan is a nice guy, and is not at all edgy. Palins are just grasping at straws for any publicity. They will bring down the GOP, but of course they are just double agents for the Democrats!!!
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Is it really necessary?
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Because the Friday show is taped on Monday. Some fan you are, Herc! (j/k)
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for spraying a thousand people with water every week, just walking to work or school or wherever.
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...tastelessly about a female Obama. Only desperate, pathetic, yet secretly all-controlling, stupid yet maniacally devious Republicans would do that. This clearly demonstrates just how much more sophisticated and tolerant we are.
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Either you guys are too young to remember or too partisan to care, but a similar controversy erupted over SNL calling Al Gore's daughters hot and Clinton's daughter not so much. SNL apologized and never aired that portion again, a short part of one Wayne's World episode.
Bottomline, kids are off limits and you fuckheads defending Letterman here, when even HE apologized, need to get your heads out of your goddam asses. -
... Then why didn't she press charges against the kid who knocked her own daughter up?
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I WOULD LICK SARAH'S PRETTY LITTLE ASSHOLE ALL FUCKING DAY LONG YOU POINTLESS PONCES.
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Jun 15, 2009 8:50:32 PM CDT
Sarah Palin should apologize for being a fucking asshole
by lockesbrokenleg
God, she is a manipulative bitch.
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I thought the joke was hilarious.
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to three daughters, I would be on Letterman in a NY minute. No way do you say that about a 14 y.o. and he should have known if it was Willow or not before saying it. Good on the apology, but now he's trying to cover his ass before he no longer has sponsors. Besides, "candidate" Obama himself said "leave the children out of this". Letterman didn't learn his lesson from his Messiah.
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Jun 15, 2009 8:55:27 PM CDT
Bristol Palin is 18 years old!! Therefore I have 10 words for he
by trebleallliance
Let me give your son a little brother or sister?
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Invest in more characters for your subject line. What are you, Twatter??
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Because Levi was born in the same year as Bristol you twat. Not quite sure if he's a few months older or younger, but you see how an 18 year old doing a 17 year old is different than a 40 year old doing a 14 year old, right? Do we need to have you locked up?
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what some tv personality says about your kid, i dont care how bad or crude or rude it is, who cares what the intent was or wasn't, its just some talkshow host, who gives a shit. people are so overly sensitive.
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Hand down pants!!!!
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...why is Letterman even bothering to make jokes about this cracker fuckwit throwback yahoo woman, her jarheaded thick-as-shit husband and their disgusting spawn? He's only giving them the attention they crave. Fuck the Palins. Perhaps if we ignore them, they'll go back to their hillbilly igloo trailer park, or whatever they live in up there in fucking Alaska.
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Palin is using this to continue to get her name out there and exploit this whole stupid situation for all the good publicity she can get out of it. And now Letterman is doing the same. He'll bring it up continually to get people to continue watching (this pushed him on top of Conan, after all) until nobody cares anymore. And then he'll do bits about cutting deli meat again and he and Conan, like he and Leno, will run neck-and-neck for the next ten years.
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all of this bullshit is actually helping her politically, the repubs are keeping her warm to do something for the future. We should have forgotten about this crazy bitch but nooooo. Thanks Letterman for helping Palin remain on everyone's minds.
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What are the odds that Willow will end a high school dropout teenage mom like sister Bristol? I'll bet $50 she's pregnant by 17.
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He was probably just too lazy to rehearse the jokes and just read it off the cue card not knowing what the joke was.
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Jun 15, 2009 9:08:28 PM CDT
Big Love: Season 5: Sarah Palin elected Maverick of Utah
by trebleallliance
One big happy promiscuous family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dave should never apologize for humor, let them suck it.
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Far Faaaaaar funnier show. This controversy unfortunetly is getting Dave ratings and I hope its not his Hugh Grant moment cause Conan is a much better show and I want it to reign supreme.
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...open with a comedy routine about autism the segue into something about the hypocrisy of knocked-up fundamentalist teenagers preaching abstinence. That way Palin can't accuse him of specifically picking on her 14 year old.
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You don't refer to a sitting governor as a slut when there is no evidence to support that(or any woman for that matter), and you sure as hell don't bring people kids into it. If somebody said that about my kids I'd beat some ass period. The fact that she has a (R) after her name should be irrelevant. Dave made what sounds like a sincere apology so lets leave it alone.
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Was he anywhere near Yankee Stadium or A-Rod? THE HORROR!!!
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Coughlin's "Conservative Pussy" Law v. Danny "Lame Provocateur" DickBlood...the Ali/Frasier for the living in your mother's basement set.
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I didn't watch the stint, but love watching the "outraged" parents of young girls post. Please don't watch an R-rated sex comedy anytime soon.
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Jun 15, 2009 9:23:43 PM CDT
Palin just pissed that Letterman interview cost McCain/her the e
by kbarber29
Letterman's interview with McCain cost them the election because Letterman pointed out the connection between McCain and a terrorist while McCain and especially Palin were trying to say that Obama was friends with terrorists. I truly believe the Letterman interview was the main reason McCain/Palin lost because it showed how ridiculous they were.
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Jun 15, 2009 9:24:22 PM CDT
Letterman interview cost McCain/her the election. She's pissed.
by kbarber29
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Jun 15, 2009 9:24:24 PM CDT
And what would happen if the Joke were about Obama's girls...
by ledergrant
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Seriously, check out this photo or any photo of Bristol and Willow standing next to each other. Willow looks pretty much like Bristol's exact twin, albeit a couple inches shorter. Willow looks at least 17. I feel bad for the dude who mistakenly puts the moves on her and gets put away for statutory.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.nachofoto.com/b-bristol-palin-willow-47ff8cdcb215.jpeg
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I'm sorry too. There now isn't the world a better place?...
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so hypocriticaI conservative douchebags should shut the fuck up
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but he did anyway. He could've ripped Palin apart for her idiocy, like the rest of the world is, but he didn't. Letterman is the man.
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Take the stick out of your asses Republicans.
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So Letterman can make jokes about having sex with Malia and Natasha. What, you mean jokes about the Obama Girls are in poor taste? Who knew...
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Jun 15, 2009 9:33:45 PM CDT
Dave should fight Palin like Stewart/Colbert/O'Brien last year.
by flim springfield
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Jun 15, 2009 9:34:18 PM CDT
God knows how many men Sarah P slept with to become governor
by kbarber29
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You know like in Fenway, where they say: YANKEES SUCK/AND JETER SWALLOWS!
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Limbaugh only said that Chelsea Clinton was arguably the ugliest presidential child since Amy Carter... Which was irrefutably true.
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That the 14 year old really IS pregnant. The reason the Palins are pissed is because this joke hit the nail on the fucking head. Hell,the younges kid will probably be knocked up before she enters middle school....
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I'm just tired of the Palin jokes, period, by Letterman. I used to love his show but have see him in a slightly more creepy light since his day 1 hate speech of Palin. One joke after she comes out of nowhere is understandable and can be funny. But Letterman has hated on the Palins every chance he gets.
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You Lefties are just brimming with poison today, aren't ya? Again: Imagine any of the venom you're currently spewing being applied to King Barry's kids...
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to me that he is apologizing for the misinterpretation of the joke. Palin's an asshole anyway as well as her whole fucking family. Do as I say Not as I do! FU and the republican fuck sticks.
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...but rape isn't funny!
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seriously, you guys are fags
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Amy Carter was made fun of. Chelsea Clinton was made fun of,and I can gurantee that if/when Obamas kids do something stupid,they will be made fun of as well. Anyone in the public eye is fair game...if one of the Obama girls gets knocked up,you better believe the jokes will fly. Besides,at least Palins kids arent alcoholic cokehead whores like the Bush girls....they're just regular whores!
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Jun 15, 2009 9:42:39 PM CDT
Maybe he needs to apologise to Gingrich or the rest of the GOP
by stooopider
for giving Palin such a headliner. I dunno, i'm guessing if she wasn't going to run for president in 2012 (oh please please please do it.), this joke wouldn't have turned into mankinds worst disaster. Dave fucked up, but what's more distasteful to me is that Palin used it to increase her political standing over her rivals, while certain 'news' networks went overtime using the term 'rape' over and over again, with apparent consent from Palin. Either way you look at it, both Palin and Letterman came out looking unpleasant, but only one person apologised.
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You'd defend an admitted murderer if he were a liberal too. Oh wait. You already have by claiming that the abortionist Tiller was a hero! You people are sick.
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does this excuse all of Palin's hate speeches, aspersions and insinuations she made through out the election without any comprehension of the issues at all. Does this excuse all the anger and intolerance she flared up on the campaign trail. I'll say it again... Fuck her you stupid cunt!
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It's not that the joke is was intentionally, or unintentionally about a 14-year-old. It's the fact that the joke was uncalled for and classless. What if the joke were about a Democrats child? The media and all of you would be up in arms. You would be going through the roof protesting and calling for his firing as well.
However, there is nary a peep from the National Organization of Women, or any other woman's rights group.
So Letterman said that he thought the joke was about the 18-year-old who actually got pregnant. That doesn't make it any better. All you are doing by chastising this young girl who made a mistake is categorizing any other young girl who got pregnant out of wedlock: Jamie Lynn Spears, Jessica Alba, Angelina Jolie, Nicole Richie, etc.
They all got pregnant out of wedlock, and they are praised as good mothers and models of character.
So what you are doing now is to blame 18-year-old Bristol Palin for speaking around the country in support of abstinence after she had the child. How many celebrities have gotten a pass from you all preaching out against drug use, or drinking and driving after killing someone or committing a crime on drugs. How many times does Robert Downey, Jr get praised for his bravery and character when his public speaking is part of a probation sentence.
Bristol Palin realizes that she had sex and got pregnant and at 18...you bet she regrets being forced to grow up so quickly. I bet you $200 million dollars that you would preach responsible sex or abstinence if you were saddled with a kid as a kid.
At least she did the responsible thing and had the child instead of taking the cowards way out and killing the kid before it has a chance to be born.
The bottom line is...the hypocrisy. You point fingers at the Conservatives and blame them for being wrong, but you never point the fingers at the Liberals who do the same thing.
You excoriate the Conservatives who speak out against such things being said about them, but you line up behind the Liberals who protest and call for firings.
This is not about the joke, it is about the hypocrisy behind the joke. Letterman has berated and put down Sarah Palin ever since she came on the scene and said things about her because she is a woman that he would NEVER say about Hillary Clinton, or any other political female figure.
Why?
Pure Politics.
That is what causes the friction. Letterman used to be hysterical. Now is a bitter old man who espouses his political ideals and uses his show as a political platform.
And he wonders why Conservatives are upset.
And how upset would the Liberals be if he said the same things about Michelle Obama, or Chelsea Clinton?
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Jun 15, 2009 9:47:15 PM CDT
I know I wouldn't like to go online and see my kids talked about
by stooopider
Hell, even if people were saying nice things about them, i'd be concerned. No matter what your politics, and god knows the republicans scare me more than anything, kids should be allowed to be kids. You just need to read the hate on your average AICN talkback to know that you'd never expose your kids to that kind of bile in real life, so the media needs to step back and quit that shit. And yeah there was awful shit said about Chelsea Clinton as well, by Macain and a shitload of others, but at least McCain had the balls to apologise to her and her family afterwards. I can't remember ever seeing an apology in these talkbacks by people saying 1000 times worse about people they'll never meet, but that's kinda the problem when you think about it.
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Jun 15, 2009 9:47:53 PM CDT
Republicans and conservatives are actually the lemmings buddy...
by bee152
"Let's bomb these guys now!" "OK WHy?" "Because they're different" "OK" "I'll vote for him because he's a regular guy" "SUre" "He seems like someone I can have a beer with"
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and anonymous. Print your address if you want to insult people so they can reply to you. No?
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Why do politicians throw hissyfits over stupid shit like this, but can't seem to get up any outrage over stuff like awful health care, and the horrible economy.
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If you really research it, most of the presidents we've had that have had kids during office have had the worst things written about them, because a lot of people want to hurt their parents in any way, and ethics go flying out the nearest window when they compose their insults to hurt the most, just like people here sit at the keyboard and think about the best insult to the previous talkback that happened to not agree with their owns views/politics. Why get so partisan about something that everyone should agree about? Kids should not be subjected to adult opinions, game over. But adults should not use kids as pawns, like Palin did with her older daughter and the guy that knocked her up. Now when Fey observed that marriage should be between two unwilling teenagers, that was clever social commentary because Palin's party was selling the family values thing like crazy, and it was damage control on their part, but you gotta give and take...
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about the daughter getting nailed by John Edwards and hockey players, respectively. No one gave a rat's ass.
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WITH HULK HOGAN!!!! Look for the Hulkster/Palin fetus to record her debut album by the end of the year,brother!!!!!
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Jun 15, 2009 9:55:57 PM CDT
Palin should apologize for her "Obamas friends with terrorists"
by kbarber29
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what does Kurt Russell think about all this??????
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It's got nothing to do with the "perception" of the joke. It how the far right publicists saw a chance for publicity for the "governess" and jumped on it along with FOX News and the morons who preach to the converted. Dave's got nothin' to apologize for other than bad judgement in giving these asses more airtime.
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Hmmm, why is it you seem to be the one spreading hate? You know what they say about throwing stones in glass houses.
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That Sarah Palin spends most of her spare time dressed in a nazi-inspired bondage outfit whipping the shit out of local Alaskan fishermen???
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I love that he said what he said, the way that he said it. Regarding perception over intent. It's totally true, regardless of how sucky it is and he's a class act for owning up to it. I do lament that the Palin's in general seem to be the New Beverly Hillbillies, and as a result continue to get more and more publicity in this, our wholly deranged and voyeuristic culture, but whatever. This post isn't about them so much as Dave. Class. Act.
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Before the election, Dennis Miller was going before live audiences "Dennis Miller Live" and stating that he doesn't want to live in Islamic country is Obama got elected. Are we living in an Islamic country? Truth is, the country hasn't changed a bit. He needs to apologize for insulting Obama if Dave needs to apologize.
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Jun 15, 2009 10:10:17 PM CDT
I think she thought she could win the election by showing off he
by kbarber29
Wrong!
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The left will always have a sense of humor and Hollywood. The right has hate speech and right wing radio. That is all.
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Jun 15, 2009 10:15:34 PM CDT
Again, Palin pissed Letterman/McCain interview cost election
by kbarber29
Letterman hand smacked McCain over his ties to Gordon Liddy when McCain and Palin said "Obama was friends with terrorists"
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Jun 15, 2009 10:16:09 PM CDT
Dennis Miller is the living embodiment of the terrorists winning
by flim springfield
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Jun 15, 2009 10:17:21 PM CDT
Palin should apologize for her "Obamas friends with terrorists"
by arthurrex007
Truth hurts
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That there aren't any actual important things going on in the world for politicians and the American people to concern themselves with. Fucking morons. Little wonder the country is swirling the toilet.
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...Dave wouldn't have made the joke about Obama, because the Obamas don't have any daughters of 'knocking-up' age. BUT...
...if he had made it about Chelsea Clinton during Hillary's run, it would have gotten just as big a laugh. Because it wasn't a fucking joke about raping little girls, it was a fucking joke about A-Rod's infidelity!!
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Palin is nothing but pure evil that spews lies.
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For years he's never been able to handle his jokes failing. If a joke doesn't go over, how many times have you seen him "bully" the audience by repeating that same joke or making reference to it throughout the whole show until the audience "gives in"? A million times, and that's why I stopped watching.
I'm not totally against Dave though. In his defence, the studio audience is pretty fucking stupid. Yes, he's a lot smarter than his live audience and every show stuff goes over their heads. But if the joke doesn't work, it doesn't work. Move on. Dave will never be a big enough man to get over "Uma, Oprah".
Yes, chiahead, that's a bit different to what you're talking about. It's too bad though he spends the first part of his apology essentially blaming the writers BEFORE making himself seem like a big guy for taking responsibility for something that was 'not his fault'. Read it again. Passive aggressive bullshit. If you're going to take it on the chin, take it on the chin without all the "I had no idea" deflection (which still doesn't wash because he still let it out there without research/backup) and qualifications. Man up, Dave. -
Now he just needs to step up the jokes on Sarah and Todd.
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But Letterman's joke was about ARod raping Palin's daughter at the game. The 18yr old wasn't there. Only the 14yr old. And since Letterman has a cadre of joke writers, a gaggle of producers, and a douchebag full of lawyers you'd think they'd know which daughter was there. They did , but Letterman has changed from comedian to political hack the last few years. His plummeting ratings show this. Ask yourself this: if it wasn't a mean-spirited attack why make the joke at all? Palin isn't news anymore. She lost. She's back in Alaska. Why attack? Isn't there a shitload of more topical humor? Letterman was trying to be edgy and political and ended up just showing his a bitter old man who lost his funny bone around the time NBC screwed him.
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I hope this helps get past the matter. He's right. It was a bad joke; and the situation got away, from him. If he had made this kind of apology last week maybe we wouldn't still be talking about it. Anyway better late than never.
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*gasping for breath*
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She's going to milk this for everything it's worth.
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thats all i can say. how total lulz is it when fearless leader is palin and rush limbaugh.
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I'm not big on ad hominem attacks, but if you seriously and naively believe that the joke was about the 14 year old getting raped, then you are a stupid dumb-ass.
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Jun 15, 2009 10:36:12 PM CDT
I want to see how the Palin's react to this Doug Stanhope routin
by gambers2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdFJ-hFFdI8
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so I guess that's okay.
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I have the eggs, but need to get some rocks.
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The old term now has a new meaning. Everyone please update your slang dictionary.
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The joke firstly was not written by dave his staff wrote it, and thought it was about the dumb palin daughter who got knocked up. He never said it was about williow. People just assume. And most are missing the point of the joke. Wasn't about palin's daughter it was about how a. rod is such a horny mother fucker that will fuck anything with a vagina even during a game when he is supposed to be working. Since palin was there the staff wrote a joke that now a. Rod knocked up her hyporitical daughter who preaches abstience who didn't practice what she preaches. Dave is a class act for apologizing but it was funny as hell and no need to apologize.
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Jun 15, 2009 11:03:55 PM CDT
Ledergrant, just for the record, NOW actually did comment on the
by shut the fuck up donny
and added Letterman to their Media Hall of Shame:
http://tiny.cc/qB5wP
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I don't care if they were the same age. It was still rape. Levi Johnston raped Sarah Palin's daughter and his reward was a new suit and a trip the the GOP Convention.
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I really respect the intellectually honest conservatives who are willing to admit what a douchebag she is.
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for when Willow does get preggers in the next few years.
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Jun 15, 2009 11:09:39 PM CDT
Good point CerebralAssassin! Where's Palin's anger toward Levi?
by kbarber29
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On Palin. It was getting downright creepy. She's not running for Vice President anymore, she's back in Alaska minding her own business...what the hell is Dave's problem with her? She was doing a charity event and he attacked her. That knocked-up joke was sexist and stupid no matter who it was aimed at. The only reason I can think of for his bizarre behavior is that his political agenda has gotten the better of his sense of humor, and apparently liberals like him still feel threatened by her. Sheesh. Well, Palin got her apology and good for her, and Dave got a lot of attention over the whole mess. And lots of support from the left who, despite supposedly being for women's lib, have no trouble with women being treated as jokes, objects, targets and lesser beings; especially powerful women of the right. When it comes to putting women in their place, nobody does it better and with more gusto than the left. Pitiful.
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OMG! HE MADE A JOKE ABOUT A KID THAT HAS A KID!!! Get over yourselves fucknuts.
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...for giving Sarah Palin another opening to cruise the media circuit.
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because there's nothing else to keep her name in the media besides this silly joke. Yes it was inappropriate and anyone who's SANE would agree that of course he was referencing the girl who had a baby. so the facts aren't accurate. since when do jokes require accurate facts?? this is so lame. lame lame lame. Palin needs to just shut up and Letterman should just to silly jokes about other people's children until we all understand its completely stupid. Why don't other celebrity figures demand public apologies for jokes made about them on late nite? Wacko Jacko would need about 500 apologies alone. This is just crazy stupid and shows that society is turning into a politically correct shitbox.
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but hate this circus freak show garbage that is now considered politics....call me weird if you want.
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I heard Spencer is a Jesus freak now.
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Because who the fuck knew Willow was at that Yankee game? The real issue is Palin didn't like Letterman calling her flight attendant outfits slutty, so like the overgrown juvenile she is, she decided to cry "rape."
Sarah Palin is a grade-A piece of shit. She richly deserves her status as a national punchline. She doesn't know it yet, but at this point the halfwit Joe The Plumber stands a better chance of attaining national office than she. -
He's got nothing to apologize for. No thinking person believes he was talking about the younger daughter, and even if he was, I honestly wouldn't care.
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is not funny, it doesn't matter who it was aimed at, it was tasteless. Also shame on you Herc for adding two youtube videos that had nothing to do with the Letterman show. But hey that's so liberal of you.
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agreed.
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Letterman steps in shit of his own making, and gets defended by some of the idiots here. He finally gets pressured into apologizing for being an ass, and all the venom here is against Palin. Your anger is misplaced. You should be pissing on Letterman for not being the tough man you all hoped he was by apologizing. He is an absolute pussy, and you Palin haters need to admit the he let you all down seriously.
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Sorry, Redshirt, Letterman schooled Pain and McCain last year, when it counted...he apologized for the joke. It's Palin's people who are driving this thru the media. Interesting imagery in your post, though.
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Who are YOU calling an overgrown juvenile? Jeez, that's rich coming from a guy who wears good-girl anime t-shirts to Comic-Con. You might want to get some therapy for that misogyny, it's pretty disgusting.
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Come on admit it, Letterman disappointed you by wussing out and saying he was sorry. You know he should have doubled down and kept going.
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And thats the most offensive thing about it. Seriously, why the hell is the monologue even done anymore. Even with the most talented people, monologue jokes are stale, lame, and just plain a waste of time. I fast forward past them on my DVR.
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I'd like him to read how an apology works...
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Jun 15, 2009 11:44:57 PM CDT
Letterman never used the word rape. Knocked up is consensual se
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Jun 15, 2009 11:46:06 PM CDT
Americans - you'l be getting more of this sort of thing
by biggusdickus
...now that our dear Russell Brand is amongst you. You poor sods!
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Someone up there actually said all the right has is hate speech and talk radio. What do you call the endless stream of violent, sex-based insults at Palin and her daughters? That's pretty sick stuff.
Nancy Pelosi's ratings are half of what Dick Cheney's are, why don't you go on about what a stupid whore slut batshit crazy bitch she is? That's hilarious!
So she's a conservative and you disagree with her politics. Wow, bully for you. Because she's a woman and you refuse to let women make up their own political minds, you have to debase and dehumanize her.
The same thing happens whenever an African-American strays off the Democrat plantation. Where was the press when Condi Rice was the first black Scty of State? Or Colin Powell? Or when Clarence Thomas was appointed to the bench? They were just house negroes and uncle toms, traitors to their race and more importantly, the Democratic party that owns them. Powell has been accepted back into the fold for coming to his senses and rejoining the hive mind.
So Letterman apologized - let's stop talking about it and move on. It wasn't right for Don Imus to get crucified for his 'joke', nor should Letterman lose his job for this. He should lose his job for not being entertaining for the last ten years. -
First black female Scty of State. Anyone jumping on that mistake, form a line and go fuck yourselves.
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Jun 15, 2009 11:49:25 PM CDT
Also, A-Rod has never raped anyone. He's had hella sex, but no
by kbarber29
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That after 6 months of Vice President Biden, people still think Palin is stupid.
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No one is more fake than Nancy Pelosi.
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The most annoying thing about this is that republican white trash breeds like rats, so of course they are going to be all up in arms over "the poor children." Fuck all of those Palin-spawn, they will all grow up to be scum anyway.
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Whichever Harvard alum who wrote the joke should be fired, just for being too lazy to figure out which kid was there. That's the kind of stupid, ignorant (and possibly christ-based) mistake a knuckle-dragging conservative would make, not one of the enlightened children of O.
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'Nuff said.
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... and I couldn't agree with you more. Palin is a pile of pure shit trailer trash. I -- and every Democrat I know -- CANNOT WAIT for Palin to announce her candidacy for President. It's going to be fucking beautiful.
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...was fuckin great. I was going to say something about that, but he made it way better than I could have.
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Look at the stereotypes here, that being the stereotypical liberal who thinks conservatives are all white trash bible-thumping hicks, filled with hate and ignorance. Are you're really that stupid?
Excellent point above, Joe Biden is perhaps the stupidest and/or most gaffe-prone VP ever. Anyone making a Quayle joke after this guy's reign of error should be shot. He's produced more punch lines in 6 months than Quayle will in a lifetime.
Even the mighty O, Mr. 57 States, has already invoked Jesus more than Bush and made more jaw-droppingly stupid comments. Maybe his comments make more sense when you hear them in Austrian. Now that he has backed the Defense of Marriage Act, maybe all the libs will apologize to Carrie Prejean for being such douches when their Messiah held the exact same position on gay marriage. Maybe. -
If she wasn't constantly parading her children in front of the media this wouldn't happen. 99% of America can't name the children of other politicians, but Palin's kids are making speeches, giving TV and magazine interviews, etc. If Palin had one ounce of motherly compassion she would LEAVE HER KIDS AT HOME. I'm not excusing Letterman, but he's not the only one, and some are willing to take much nastier shots at the kids. What is your children's self-esteem worth? If Palin stopped using the kids as a political tool NONE OF THIS WOULD HAPPEN. Leave them at home with their family, stop involving them like they're important to your election aspirations. With a world full of nut jobs, you can't expect to put them in front of the cameras and have them emerge unscathed. Do what's right by your children FIRST, and don't complain that its going to hurt your election chances to leave them out of it. They deserve to be left out of it.
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Are "you" really that stupid. No more cough syrup for me. Line still forms to the left.
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Stop using your children for politics Palin!
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The hypocrisy simply astounds. It astounds.I'm not shocked that liberals would think it okay for Letterman to go ahead with an UNVETTED joke. After all, Palin was there with one of her kids. Right? What more must be researched? After all, we shouldn't hold a late night comedian to a higher standard than the mainstream media. Besides, we all know what kind of slut Bristol is. Who needs to research whether the two were within close proximity of each other?Once we knew it was the 14yo instead of the 17yo, I'm not shocked to see liberals claim that the joke was inappropriately targeted. It was about Bristol! The (now) adult! It's a-okay since she is really a slut!Well, let's see what KEITH OLBERMANN has to say about it on the HUFFINGTON POST: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/08/msnbc-reporter-begrudging_n_85706.htmlYou hypocritical liberals fucking suck.Bush says "new-clear." BAAD!! Obama claims they speak Austrian in Austria GOOOD!!Bush holds hands with Saudi. BAAD!! Obama bows before Saudi. GOOOD!!Bush chokes on pork rind. BAAD!! Obama hits head on helicopter. GOOOD!!Bush dodges Arab shoe. BAAD!! Obama kisses Arab ass. GOOOD!!Bush spends more than any president before him. BAAD!! Obama bests Bush spending within first 100 days. GOOOD!!Bush can't speak English language. BAAD!! Obama can't speak English language without teleprompter GOOOD!!Bush fires a few lawyers. BAAD!! Obama fires an inspector general. GOOOD!!Strom Thurmond. BAAD!! Robert Byrd. GOOOD!!Mormon Romney. BAAD!! Mormon Reid. GOOOD!!Pill popping Limbaugh. BAAD!! Pill Popping Patrick Kennedy. GOOOD!!Do you people even listen to yourselves?
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Jun 16, 2009 12:05:28 AM CDT
Pal-in comparison, Biden his time for the White House, I need Mc
by kbarber29
Pal-in comparison, Biden his time for the White House, I need Mc-Cain to lean on. Can't seem to find one for Obama.
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“When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened,” Where do you even begin with a tool like that? Every night before beddy bye I pray that nothing ever happens to Obama while he's in office.
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Are we certain?
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Have you ever tried counting the "umms" and "ahhs" when he is off the teleprompter? He delivers a great rehearsed speech , but he does terrible speaking off script.
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You lost. Your demographics are shrinking into oblivion and your relevance is gone. I know stunts like what Palin is pulling is all you have going for yourselves right now but please at least go quietly into the night with a little mor dignity? K see ya bye.
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Yes we CANnabis!
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Jun 16, 2009 12:17:45 AM CDT
Australians and Americans are becoming far too precious
by miyamoto_musashi
Am an Aussie, in Australia there was recently a case where a comedy show was suspended for a couple of weeks, because they used some black/ tongue in cheek humour, which unfortunately many imbeciles in Australia didn't get and caused a huge uproar.
The start of the show actually has a disclaimer about language etc, personally I think the disclaimer should be about a requirement for having a level of intelligence where you at least know how to tie your own shoes.
Now I see this about Letterman, and clearly can see America being quite similar. Whilst Dave made the joke in reference to the wrong daughter, which he has acknowledged, cleary Bristol Palin talking about abstinence education is hillarious, as hillarious as it was when Sarah Palin was. Anyone that has read up about this education knows that it is not successful and leads to more teen pregnancies and STDs than informative sex education.
I remember at the time of the Muslim cartoons and the incredible overreaction then, I thought there is no way Western nations would ever act like that. Whilst the Letterman and the Australian response to humour isn't on the same scale as that, it does show how reactionary we are, and my belief those few years ago was very very wrong. -
I am unpersuaded.
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Jun 16, 2009 12:24:17 AM CDT
Miyamoto, perception is another word for "twisting your words"
by kbarber29
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Not in monologues, not in conversation with guests, not if she makes the news for a valid or invalid reason -- never.
Just ignore her from now on. Shush guests when they mention her name. Take the jokes out of the rotation. And under no circumstances, never put a Palin or a Palin-ite in the right hand chair.
Let her go off now and spew her outrage and let other shows pick it up. I think it would be great to look back, 5 or 10 years from now, and say "Man, you notice how Letterman never made one joke about Palin going into rehab after driving her car into that daycare?" -
Jun 16, 2009 12:25:35 AM CDT
His intent was innocent. Palin's perception makes her idiot.
by kbarber29
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/05/teleprompter-fa.html
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Seriously, some of you people are the lowest forms of life imaginable. You live your anonymous lives from whatever hovels you live in and then proceed to bash a successful woman who has done more and stepped up to the plate more than most of you ever will regardless of whether you agree with her or not. As if that wasn't embarrassing enough, you trash her daughters neither of whom ever did anything to you. I don't care who did what before. Just because someone you hate trashed Chelsea Clinton does not make it okay to trash the Palin girls, one of whom is a minor for Christ's sake!
Too many of you live sheltered lives never going outside into a bigger world than the cozy comfortable hate haven that exists here. You haters are not the norm. You are not in the majority. If you had any idea what real people were like you'd know how despised people like you are.
If Harry were any kind of moderator, if had a decent bone in his body, he'd ban a lot of you. But he and the others here are more politically minded than care about the bounds of decency or even films.
You can disagree with Palin all you want. You cross a line when you trash her the way that some of you do. You cross a barrier that should never be crossed when you trash either of her daughters. You are the worst of the worst -- the lowest of the low. You are what is wrong with America, not the politicians you spend way too much time hating. I am ashamed that people like you exist. -
But that joke was funny - fuck the apology. Palin is now offically a parody of herself - the jumped up crazy ass hick.
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I MUST BE TRAPPED IN 2008. I HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE FUTURE
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...but not because of her media whore family. It's her fault because she did what every far-right zealot does: she willfully misrepresented someone's words in order to fabricate public backlash against something that was completely imaginary in her own head!
And I say far-right zealots, but the zealots are on the left too! If you put Sean Hannity and Ed Schultz in a room to fight each other for an hour, THERE WOULD NEVER BE A REAL FIGHT because they would both start playing different games!
Hannity would play cops and robbers (Schultz would be the robber) and Ed would bob for apples. In the end, they'd both claimed they kicked the other one's ass at whatever game they weren't playing! -
that's called "thinking before speaking" something that fucking moron Bush should've done before deciding to invade the wrong fucking country. Kop the fuck on, man.
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Beat that Palin!
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is why was Dave even making a joke about either of the girls? Children of politicians should be off limits. Even Obama agrees with that.
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How absolutely retarded some of you are. It was a 14 year old at the game, Letterman either knew that or should have known about it BEFORE he made the joke. Anyone with a working frontal cortex (which automatically eliminates about 90% of both parties) would know that if you are going to make a joke like that to a national audience that there is a pretty sizable amount of risk to a joke like that. It was a pitiful attempt by him to be "edgy" which he hasn't been since about 1989. Either he thought it would slide by unnoticed or that public sentiment is such that no one would care. Obviously he was wrong on both counts. Then he makes matters worse by trying to make a snide retort instead of doing what he should have done and that was just say "I made a mistake with that joke, I apologize". His failure to do that is what is keeping that story in the headlines, and if he was actually stupid enough to have told that joke without knowing what he was joking about he should be fired, not for the joke itself, but for his own ineptitude.
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I thought repubs were supposed to be the tough guy cowboy party? Why do you all turn into little bitches when someone rips one of your sacred cows(emphasis on COW)?
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Instead of engaging in the usual liberal parlays, please attempt to answer the fucking question.Why is it okay to bash any of Palin's kids for alleged promiscuity for comedic effect when it is not okay to bash Clinton's kid for alleged promiscuity for comedic effect?And before you cry foul of double standard, I retread a slice of my earlier post:Strom Thurmond. BAAD!! Robert Byrd. GOOOD!!Mormon Romney. BAAD!! Mormon Reid. GOOOD!!Pill popping Limbaugh. BAAD!! Pill Popping Patrick Kennedy. GOOOD!!Just ADMIT that it is WRONG for EITHER SIDE to blast the children of politicians of ANY political stripe. Be a man and take the high fucking ground.The only two instances I can think of that do not apply are Meghan McCain and (what's her face) Cheney's daughter since they have engaged the political talking head arena.
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what is wrong with america & the rest of the world...is that most people don't know when to simply fuck off & shut the fuck up.i will now demonstrate...
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I thought the joke was funny, but I understand why he apologized. There is this unwritten rule where comedians with any class dont directly target celebrity's children that are not themselves in the spotlight. Palin is nails on chalk board painful, but her youngest daughter didnt do anything. It was obviously not meant to target her, but she was the only one at the game so it inadvertantly did, hence, need to apologize. Its weird because on one hand, im annoyed that he had to boq down to Palin, but on the other hand I aplaud his class for doing it for her daughter.
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It wasn't a joke abotu Palin's kid! It was a joke about A-Rod's infedelity!! It could have been about female at all, but Palin was in town, and Letterman has been jonseing on her, and there you go! It wasn't a fucking joke about Palin's daughter's promiscuity! It was about A-Rod's promiscuity!
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Would someboody PLEASE rape and kill them all!
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...i agree with studioki, and Letterman for that matter: intent goes out the window when perception tells a different story. Dave did inadvertently pull Palin's daughter into the fray, and should have apologized.
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--but they're probably sticking to people their own age. As for their mom, she certainly DOES look like a "slutty stewardess" in a 1970s porn film. God bless all of them (including Letterman).
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One of the writer's probably was sitting back reading the newspaper about how Palin and her daughter attended an A-Rod game, and the writer said, "I bet A-Rod knocked her up too!"
I'd like to know the writer of the joke's source for the joke and whether is just said Sarah and her daughter, or if it said Sarah and Willow. -
Jun 16, 2009 12:41:56 AM CDT
If rape isn't funny why the Observe and Report love?
by s0nicdeathmonkey
Or are you guys dumb enough to think a woman 20 shots and half a bottle of psych drugs deep is capable of any kind of consent?
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Jun 16, 2009 12:43:30 AM CDT
Bob Cryptonight, what else is there to do in snowy Alaska?
by kbarber29
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"I didn't tell you to stop mother fucker."
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For letting her underage daughter get knocked up. What a bad example of parenting. Shame on you Sarah Palin and you have the audacity to say that Letterman is making it harder for underage pregnant girls? What message are you sending Sarah Palin? That it's ok for underage girls to get pregnant?
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Even more fucked up is how Palin is using her 14 yr old daughter, and probably telling her that evil liberal elite old men want her to be raped and scaring the shit out of the poor girl. I guarantee she ends up just as fucked up as Bristol, who whores it up while preaching abstinence. Quality american theatre is what we have right here. And they say that it is impossible for conservatives to be funny. The Palins are funnier than the Colbert's or Jon Stewarts of the world could ever be.
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Jun 16, 2009 12:49:34 AM CDT
She can see Russia from her house, but can't see what Bristol's
by kbarber29
She can see Russia from her house, but can't see what Bristol's always doing.
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That includes the Palin family, Letterman's show, and the joke. But not A-Rod.
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Jun 16, 2009 12:50:54 AM CDT
A forgettable joke, if not for Palin's camp building it up
by orionsangels
Which makes you wonder, is this being done on purpose by Palin's camp, so Palin stays in the media? Oh poor Sarah Palin again.
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You're...totally right. Your hot spicy words have melted my cold,icy heart. You have made me see the error of my ways,and I thank you sir! I would kiss your ass,but you're a republican and I know you guys dont like that(in public...choose a bathroom stall and I'll meet you there). Due to your words,I am now proud to announce that I have become a god and science fearing republican...send me your address and we can discuss the evils of David Letterman over prayer and then have a rousing discussion about how Jesus tamed the mighty dinosaurs(did you know that dinosaur in Hebrew means "Thunder Lizard"??)!!
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Jun 16, 2009 12:52:13 AM CDT
Serously, I can't believe anyone younger than 50 watches this st
by finky089
Letterman was great, but I'm really surprised that so many people still watch him. or Leno. or network TV in general.
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she's lucky she's not a fuckin peck who has to keep her baby away from a freakish Val Kilmer and crazy old nasty hag! With a name like Willow, everyone just better be glad this is the "worst" thing to happen to her. fuh-KERS!
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I heard the joke. There was no implied rape. Letterman was talking about 'her daughter', and the only one anyone would think of is the one with the kid. Just unfuckingbelieveable.
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Maybe she'll turn out to be a lesbian witch who turns to the dark arts and skins a guy alive! Lets see the republicans put a spin on that!
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You can't judge every Republican by the way some numb nut with a microphone acts. There's a good number of us who HATE Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity and the far-right radical conservatives and HATE that they've taken over and all but destroyed the party.
I realize though that the Republican leadership is really pretty fucking ball-less and pathetic right now but that doesn't mean every Republican is like that. What We need are smart, educated men of reason with honor and integrity like Powell or the McCain before 2008 leading the charge and not these embarrassing fucktards. -
His use of the words "of legal age" was not necessary and just made the whole second apology creepy since he was joking about rape.
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Comedy is clearly the winner for her presence in American politics.
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To Palin, Hannity, Limbaugh. It's about holding on to their old fashion ideals. White America founded by whites, by religion. Going to church every sunday. Only a man and woman can get married. The big white man behind the curtain making all the money. While minorities stay down. All that is slowly starting to change. People are waking up! The Hannity's of the world know this. So they're getting desperate now. Let's fabricate this hidden agenda Obama has to destroy America. Let's scare everyone to the point where we need these evangelicals republicans to save us.
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And was Obama dumb when he said he had been to 57 states? Or when he wanted to make sure kids with asthma had breathalyzers?
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My dad raised me a Republican. I left the party at the age of 25 and became an independent simply because the party had become the party of fear-mongers, lies, and far right extremism.
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Don't let it trouble you too much. White middle aged is the fastest disappearing demographic in the country. Within a couple generations we'll never have to hear these babies whine and moan about their "victimization" at the hands of the media.
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Really didnt care before this, but damn she looks older than 14, the way she is dressed.
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And she had every right as a parent to be upset about it. Any parent would have been upset by it whether her child was 14, 18 or 27. It doesn't take a political ideology to get mad about someone making a joke about your under-age or barely-of-age child getting knocked up by someone who cheats on their wife.
Had Letterman made an unconditional apology last week this would have been over and done with. Even now though, his premise is "You misunderstood the joke" and he is giving it the opportunity to continue to live and breathe on its own.
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I am an independant as well. I've voted both R and D in the past,but mainly because there has yet to be a viable third-party candidate. The republican politicians we have now are not even the same as the republicans we had 10/15 years ago...its turned into a party of religious fanatics,and thats why so many people have turned against them. I have no problem with ANYONE of ANY religion who chooses to practice that religion in privacy....but once they begin passing laws and stealing rights to force their beliefs on the American public,thats when its time to rise up and put these losers in their place...which is exactly what the late-night comedians have been doing with the likes of Craig,Palin,ect.
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the kids are supposed to be off limits. plain and simple. The same rules should apply to both sides of the political aisle.
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This used to be a country where Republicans and Liberals disagreed, but no matter what the outcome. We all came together as one united country. Not anymore. Now it's my party or the highway. My beliefs or the highway. My side must win! My ideas, my party comes first! Country second. Yeah my team is gonna beat your team! Fox news has a ridiculous ad running right now. Where each Anchor from Fox News talks to us about what Fox news means to everyone. What's funny is they have Glenn Beck say, "where we can be a country that welcomes minorities" and he gives the fakest smile, hehe. Then Hannity says, "where the news is fair and balanced!" Except on Hannity's show. Where it's never fair and balanced. The Republican side is always right, no pun intended. What a joke!
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That's statutory, isn't it?
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See it in most forms of politics and clearly religion, when we stop our critical thought and instead idolise people/things that's when we (humans) make our worst decisions and don't progress/improve as much as we should.
This is clearly not a partisan issues, you can see it particularly with Obama, really liked Bill Maher's comments about Obama's presidency thus far, on his show on Friday. For me he made some great points, some points that clearly should be raised and debated by other political commentators.
That South Park episode that came out the day after Obama's election for me was a perfect illustration of our lack of objectivity, and ability to be critical. For anyone who didn't see it, it showed the Republicans acting like it was the end of the world, whilst the Democrats were acting like the messiah had just arrived and all the world's problems were going to magically disappear. -
Because he/she must be cool.
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Obamas not dumb? He gave the British Prime Minister 27 dvds that had the wrong regional code, thus were useless to him. He gave the Queen an Ipod prefilled with his own speeches. And those are just 2 examples of funny stupidity. The list of serious fuckups is growing rapidly.
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you realize that a rhesus monkey with a speak n spell would be more cohesive and well spoken than Bush, right?regardless. the idea that Obama pausing here and there during unrehearsed remarks, both to make sure there are no gaffes, and to make sure that what he's saying is fully considered, is a huge detriment to his character is ridiculous.if a politician is babbling on without pausing, it's because it's pablum, or it's bullshit, or both. Obama can pause mid speech all he wants, as long as what he's saying is worthwhile, I'm happy.
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Because Janet Reno is her father." -John McCain. Did Palin ever attack him for deliberately insulting a teenage girl?
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Has to stop! Has to...or this country wont survive. American Politics has turned into a contest between the Dems and the Repubs to see which side can make their beliefs the law and in the process outlaw anything the other side supports. The best the American people can hope for is gridlock...this is not how this country is supposed to be run. What we need is a good old fashioned revoloution to thin the herds and make us realize the value of democracy again...
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Outside of religion, the idolising which I see as far worse that even politics, where generally most people have some level of cynicism for politics is in regards to Oprah.
Give her pull across the world, if she wanted to become President of the US, it would happen. I work with some generally intelligent people, who all read her magazine and watch her show. They usually can be quiet objective, but when it comes to Oprah, its like "gospel" and whatever she says must be true. They are like sheep, its incredible. -
No need to apologize for your joke.
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Better than Bush who illegally downloaded Beatles songs to his I-Pod when they were clearly not available at the time on I-tunes.
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The Republicans are worse and here's why. Bill Maher who's an Independent, but is seen as a Liberal by most of the Right. Criticized Obama. You know why, because Bill Maher is a realist first. He calls it like he sees it. He doesn't have any agenda. The extreme right, like your Hannity, Limbaugh, Hassleback, never admit fault within their party. They justify every act committed within their party, unless it's too extreme. Then they just ignore it. Hannity's team is too busy finding dirt on Obama. That's what they do. They want Obama to fail, even the country, so they can be put back in charge.
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2 reasons...
1. Brownshirt would be more fitting to your post here you fucking twat
2. Someone might confuse redfist with redshirt and tarnish my fucking name with your bullshit postings.
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To be clear, at the time that the above was a current issue, the RIAA was saying it was illegal to transfer music from cd to any other device. They still maintain that.
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Bush is gone, dude, let that hate go. Geez, you leftys won and hold all the cards yet you are still raging. Do me a favor. Please tell me 1 criticism you have about Obama. Or have you drank the Kool Aid for the messiah?
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Is "Obama is dumb" seriously what you are going to attach yourself to? I just think there are probably better arguments you could get behind, because that one is pretty thin and no one is really buying it ya know? I'm sure there is a good abortion clinic bombing happening somewhere, so why don't you just go run along and kill some doctors/oppress some minorities.
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Next up, sniffy the patriotic squirrel and the deer that jumped in front of a car, oh and tornados hit the midwest, oh and another white guy in the midwest lost a job at Chrysler. The school that wouldn't let the student talk about the bible. Oh and a white blond haired woman is missing again, call the national guard. Que the country music, we're going to break.
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You claim that Obama put his own speeches on the queens ipod was because of the RIAA? That, my friend is funny. You should work for Letterman. Explain the DVD gaffe now, please.
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Obama passed the second half of the bailout after Bush's first bailout. Trust me, lots of people on all walks of life hate the fact that he did this. Again, both sides have their goods and their bads.
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like on the TV series Good Times. Why didn't you say apple juice?
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Obama didn't put speeches on the queens ipod because of the RIAA. I was making an ipod comparison between the two presidents, ya yutz!
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Palin deserves the apology. Conan will probably beat his ass.
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anyone catch that? I didn't think Artie was all that funny, but it WAS funny how uncomfortable he made everyone, especially Buck.
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Jun 16, 2009 1:34:05 AM CDT
Redshit have u been eating a pork sandwich from Limbaugh?
by orionsangels
Obama is not the messiah. He's just a very well educated man and for the last 8 years we had a retard for a president. So yeah, I can see the whole messiah thing. Hansom, articulate intelligent speaker. We're not used to that. Give Obama time though. Bush's mess is going to take a long time to clean.
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Wow, that was a pretty impressively dumb thing to say
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OK, hows this for dumb: Send gitmo detainees to Bermuda and don't tell England until they are on the way? How about pushing for Health care reform without even bothering to appoint a surgeon general to consult? How about reacting to the Iraniann governments machine gunning of their own citizens as "troubling". Christ, he spoke way harsher about that idiot that shot that abortion doctor. And interesting that you think that is a subject to joke about. I don't.
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http://tinyurl.com/3wbsxr
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Jun 16, 2009 1:35:18 AM CDT
Oh, I see. Redshirt, I have 1 more comment above that one about
by kbarber29
Oh, I see. Redshirt, I have 1 more comment above that one about Bush cd's. It was a comment divided into 2 parts. Read the whole talkback next time before you open up you speak.
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Limbaugh - Don't be fooled by his fancy smart talk. He's really the devil in disguise! Wake up white america! I mean america!
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I love your liberal compassion.
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Please, look at the deficit projections and tell me exactly how he is making things better. He has been referred to as godlike several times in the media( Chris Matthews for one) and even Brian Williams bowed to him.
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dude, your post hit while I was writing. I missed it, don't have to be a dick about it. I'm still waiting for you to explain how the dvd thing was really an act of brilliance.
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I am sure that headline surprised no one.
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Yes it would be a brilliant move for Obama to take sides on the Iran protests and alienate both sides of the conflict by what would be seen as meddling of the US into Iranian elections. Are you all lubed up to masturbate? Rush is on in few hours.
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I said, give Obama time. Bush's mess is going to take a long time to clean. You just assumed I said that, because you're currently in a defensive mode. You feel surrounded by liberals. I mean people who don't agree with you. Face it. The jig is up. zeitgeistmovie.com Muawahaha!
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And trying to tear them down with demeaning "jokes" and ridiculous news stories, in a pathetic attempt to marginalize Sarah before 2012, the Palin Family wouldn't even be an issue.But liberals FEAR Sarah Palin like the plague. I work for a national magazine which is 99.9% liberal and the HATRED directed at the woman from the second McCain picked her has been frightening. And it all stems from the fact that Palin IS a successful and attractive governor who made it on her own but who, at the same time, rejects to tenets and beliefs of "traditional" feminism: she's pro-life, an evangelical Christian, loves hunting and other "conservative" activities and worst of ALL, unapologetic about ANY of it! Both liberals and the people who love Sarah Palin realize the same thing... if Palin ever reaches national office and has a larger platform, her very existence will prove to generations of women to come that you DON'T have to sell out either your femininity or traditional beliefs in order to become a successful woman, and that the lie pushed by feminists that children and even husbands are millstones holding women back has been nothing by a cheap and pathetic con.
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Ordinary people send DVD's across sea all the time and purchase them across the sea all the time without realizing they can't play it because of region code when they get it. He's the President. Not Copy Protection Overlord.
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Ok, I have no real stake in this, I live in a Constitutional Monarchy, but the two of you are a couple of idiots. From over here (Copenhagen) Bush was no where near as dumb as you suggest nor is Obama anywhere near as intelligent as you profess he is. As for your "Black people and Kool Aid" comment, that was the first overtly racist comment I have read in this talkback and can only assume that it is yourself you are referring to when you say that Shit can have an opinion too
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Yes, like there is any doubt that the elections were rigged. Did you see the video? Go see the dead body and tell me it is merely troubling. Yeah, wouldn't want to make Iran mad at us or anything by pointing out Ahmadinijad is an asshole to the world.
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Jun 16, 2009 1:46:03 AM CDT
I hate Palin cus' she accused Obama of "being friends with terro
by kbarber29
I hate Palin cus' she accused Obama of "being friends with terrorists".
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Actually we lefties are overjoyed by the idea of Palin in '12. She has exactly ONE demographic that supports her and will be lucky to even be re-elected as Governor of her own state. Obama would demolish her in a general election even if the economy is back in the stone ages by '12.
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I just farted and that was more interesting than your post.
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Jeb Bush would beat her.
Hannity would beat her.
Limbaugh would beat her.
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Have another drink. You achieve what many here feel about Americans, a level of stupidity usually reserved for the religious zealots of the Middle East
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Obama said if his stimulus was passed it would halt the runup of unemployment at the current 8%. We are now at 10. He should not have made that statement. Runaway deficit spending will lead to hyperinflation which will not help us at all. Obama criticized Bush for wasteful spending, then set out to triple the debt. Cap and trade will put an additional $3500 energy tax burden on every American family. He isn't fixing anything.
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Jun 16, 2009 1:51:16 AM CDT
Orionsangels... the economic mess isn't a result of Bush
by theghostwholurks
It's the result of LIBERAL politicians forcing banks to make risky loans to poor people who couldn't afford them and then those same politicians continually taking payoffs from corrupt financial institutions in order to keep the government money flowing. The Bush administration actually tried to REGULATE Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but was constantly blocked by the Congressional Democrats.And you think OBAMA, who took in hundreds of thousands in payments from Fannie Mae as a Senator, and the Democratic-contralled Congress is going to "fix" the economic situation??? LOL!!! Dude, it was THEIR policies that got us here! You're LOOKING at the results of their economic policies!
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Now there's a firedavidletterman.com Web site and a planned protest outside the Ed Sullivan Theater in New York City today. If anyone thinks these antics will help Palin in the 2012 GOP primary, guess again. These stories don't tell voters that Palin has the smartest energy policy or that she's been a more successful governor than California's Arnold Schwarzenegger - they tell voters that Palin's life is a nonstop soap opera.
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Cowboy diplomacy does not work. It is chaos in Iran right now. No one knows anything about what is happening and anything other than waiting to see what happens could have even worse consequences for the protestors. Like Ahmadinejad wouldn't use anti-american sentiment to justify his actions against them? He could justify anything he wanted against them if he were able to link them to being organized by foreign media and intervention.
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Houses in this country have never been more unaffordable!
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Jun 16, 2009 1:58:02 AM CDT
Houses were overpriced. Don't blame the buyer. Blame the bank.
by kbarber29
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Dude, He has already opened fire on them. Anything that madman does will not be because of anything we said or did. Obama needs to let the people of Iran know that we stand with them in the face of such outrage. Or do you not feel that way personally either?
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Buyers are at fault too. I personally know of 3 people that are simply walking away from investment homes because they are below their original purchase price. These are all so called "savvy" investors who really were just idiots. There is lots of blame on this one.
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And his life has been one long soap opera since the mid-1970s!As gas prices increase, Iran and N. Korea go nuclear, people continue to lose their jobs and food/product costs go up exponentially as their taxes get raised in order to fund Obama's trillion dollar pipe dreams of universal health care and windmills, rather than fixing the credit and banking problem, more and more people are going to get sick of the used-car salesman currently in the White House and look for alternatives, even Sarah Palin.
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Explain to me exactly what will that accomplish?
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In this situation, cowboy diplomacy would absolutely work. This would be the United States' opportunity to validate their democracy building in Iraq by standing with the dissidents in Iran. Though it could be a potentially unpopular move, it would increase the stability in the Middle East.
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Both parties are responsible for it, Reagan really got the ball rolling, but both Republicans and Democrats had a go in pulling down the regulatory framework, that had stopped the boom/bust cycle that was absent following the great depression and up to the late 70's.
Fair call to say the regulations from the 30's to 70's prevented American economy from growing bigger and faster, may have prevented the rich from getting so rich, but its all a balancing act, and each nation needs to decide what more important for them. -
Bush had 5 years to fix the economy before the Libs took over congress. Why didn't he fix it? Now what! what!
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From 2002 - 2006 the United States had the most vibrant economy on the planet, what exactly was there to fix?
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It would serve to give the protesters the courage to rise up against a repressive and seemingly suicidal government. The iranian regime needs to be overthrown. And I am willing to bet that the Rwandans would have appreciated a little "cowboy diplomacy' back in 94.
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Sure his personal pop is fine just like with any prez at this point but his issue #s are cratering. It's sure gonna be fun watching the lib's fantasyland policies destroy their electoral chances yet again.
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Jun 16, 2009 2:09:49 AM CDT
Wouldn't matter if Obama saved us from an alien invasion.
by orionsangels
He can do no right according to Republicans. Let's say the economy was getting better, in fact it's the best it's been in 20 years. Now, do you think Hannity or Limbaugh would report that or put a spin on it? Obviously a spin, because it's their mission to being down Obama at all cost. Now doesn't anyone here see anything wrong with that?
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"Validate democracy building?" Do you play a lot of dungeons and dragons? Political role-playing is fun. No one has a fucking clue what is going to happen to that powder keg and pretending to makes you look like an idiot.
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Did you all see the heartwarming pics of the gitmo detainees enjoying a lovely swim in the ocean in Bermuda? Right brought a tear to my eye. Our enemies are just sure to love us now. That's smart diplomacy!
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The world was wonderful then. The birds were singing. Children were laughing. The world was at peace. Damn those liberals!
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They always do. Bush was doing fine until those pesky liberals took over, grrr!
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The United States of Republicans.
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Yeah growth, but it was based on unsustainable cheap debt, foreign debt at that, consumer spending.
Not based on manufacturing production, efficencies, exports etc.
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Thats the point though, the economy isn't the best it's been in 20 years, it was bad and he is taking steps that are making it worse. Hell, the health care proposal this week adds another 600 billion in taxes! Do you feel that you personally aren't taxed enough?
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No liberals didn't ruin everything. You guys are just a nuisance. Radical islam is ruining the world. I just wish the liberals agreed with that statement. You all seem to think conservatives are the biggest danger in the world.
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Americans led invasions into 2 countries in the last 6 years and built pseudo-Democratic states within them. Neither is stable at this point, the opportunity to solidify this has arisen in Iran, a state that has professed a desire to start a major war within the region which would, as a result, would likely further destabilize the fledgling governments in Afghanistan and Iraq, potentially plunging the region into a state of anarchy.
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"These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis". Holy shit and now this douche is in charge of fixing the problem. GOLLY LIBS, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG HERE?
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You forget the basic premise that I'm not a Republican (nor Democrat for that matter). No the world was not perfect before the Liberals took over, but you seem to profess the same basic lack of perspective that you accuse everyone else of having.
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I saw Anna Paquins boobies on True Blood tonight and it was good. Maybe if we all saw them, there would be more peace and better understanding between us all.
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Absolutely it was based on unsustainable financial practices, much like the 90's economy was based on faulty and in some cases illegal accounting practices. I was, somewhat sarcastically, attempting to point out that the United States positioned itself on an international level, as the leader in terms of economic strength. And in case I missed something while in University here, I don't believe that Bush put a gun to the majority of the United States' populace and told them to run up their personal debt to an unsustainable level.
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first off, the Bush criticism was a joke, you can laugh, it's okay.second, the central point of my post was that what you saw as a detriment to Obama's character and potential, I see as a plus. you ignored that because it made sense.you asked for a criticism of Obama for no reason, just because you have nothing else to say, but I got one, so here you go:the figures for employment and new jobs that the administration are touting at the moment are inflated BEYOND belief. the unemployment rate is not going to get better for a while, and the idea of "how many jobs created" by a stimulus package that has not really even been dispersed yet in any measurable way, is a vague idea at best. when they claimed that they'd already created 120,000 new jobs (I can't remember exactly) and they were going to make 600,000 more, it was not a real number, and it was an example of the vague, political exaggeration that I'd hoped the administration would steer clear of. but I Was wrong.so that bummed me out. but compared to Bush, it's a drop in the bucket...a bucket that's being tossed into a huge tank...and that tank is being dumped into the pacific ocean.
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"We failed to stabilize two democracies...third times a charm!" Oh yes the Iranian protesters are just cumming in their pants waiting for us to save them just like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seriously are you listening to yourself?
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Sorry to tack this on: However, no one over here believes that building your national debt up to 3.2 trillion in the next 6 years (as was the most recent estimate offered here) is any sort of viable economic solution either.
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republicans never apologize.
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Fuck...Bunch of anonymous folks online who just LOVE to fuckin' argue and contradict everything the other has said. And what really pisses me off is that I can all too often be like that. I'm through with the Red vs. Blue/[D] vs. [R] bullshit. I need to attain a much higher level of civil discourse. [Yes, even on the Web]. Thank you for today's life lesson, TBers!
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"Because who the fuck knew Willow was at that Yankee game?"
Any lazy asshole that bothered to take two seconds to vet the joke. The idiot who bags my groceries could have done the proper legwork. And he can't even put the chips on top! And as I said, Letterman has a huge staff of writers, assistants, producers and lawyers. The big point isn't even which daughter Letterman is attacking but why is he attacking a politician's children? I don't see him making the same jokes about Obama's kids. These attacks are just slimy no matter who the target is. -
Actually, yes I am. This is the basic method of creating a stabilized region. First you create the foothold and then expand. To fail to do so at this point would leave, potentially, 3 nuclear states (Israel, Iran - if they complete their Uranium enrichment - and possibly Pakistan) in a state of near war, with your two footholds caught in the middle. If you believe what you are paying for petrol is exorbitant now, wait until half of the oil reserves in the region are unobtainable.
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yeah you bitch.
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Jun 16, 2009 2:46:34 AM CDT
No seriously. You can get an elephant fart noise for phone!
by kbarber29
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Well, this has been enjoyable, but I need to get to work now. Skål!
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Am not American, so couldnt answer exactly why, but as an observer I would say that whether its Americans or Australians (I am one) or whoever we aren't prepared to make any sacrificies, really we aren't.
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Got to play Ghostbusters tomorrow.
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Apparently you just play a lot of RTS. This isn't Command and Conquer. We aren't building an empire. Please stop talking.
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This is a politics TB. Surely you can do better than this. By the way Redshirt- I guarantee you that that loathed cyclopian cretin that hijacked power in this country could watch those DVD's. It doesn't change the fact it is a shit present, but fuck him, he's not worth more.
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Sorry, those of you on the Left, but here is a reality check for the day. While Obama may PERSONALLY be a guy that the "average person" might look at and say "Yeah, I guess he's okay. If nothing else, after 8 years of Bush, I guess it's fun seeing a new face on the TV", his ISSUE numbers are falling fast. Which is a sign that the 2010 midterm election could tip Right for quite a few Republicans in various Congressional races, thus breaking up the Democratic power base that currently exists on the Hill -- and in turn force Obama and the Democrats to play a lot more friendly with the Republicans to get anything done, or at the very least thwart shrew hag Pelosi's continual attempts to lock the Republicans out of everything.That said, for all those on the Left declaring the Republican party dead, it's clear this nation is still (as the saying goes) "right of center" at its heart. From today's news, a new poll showing that TWICE as many people now consider themselves to be Conservative as opposed to being Liberal. And in a bad sign for Obama and the Dems, that number is actually growing...http://tinyurl.com/mgkpehOh, as for Obama's other numbers, from today's GALLUP poll:Obama job approval...61% (down another point)DISSATISFIED with State of the Nation...64%Economic outlook GETTING WORSE...57%NEGATIVE consumer mood...56%In short, Obama is dropping and will soon be in the Fifties in terms of approval, while an EQUAL number will be pissed about the way things are or are going. Meaning it's a split. You're basically talking about a split nation once again, where basically 1 out of 2 people think Obama is doing okay...while the other person thinks he completely sucks ass.
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Jun 16, 2009 3:04:37 AM CDT
It wasn't Letterman's fault that he didn't know Willow was sexua
by deevbach
giggity
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that he didn't know Willow was sexually active
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You are still a ignorant douche bag
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...Is that the grumpy old fuck keeps digging a deeper hole for himself. Personally, I thought his first apology was rather insincere and lackluster ("Hey, I'm sorry, so why don't you come on my show and make it a media event so my ratings skyrocket that night and I obviously benefit from things? The joke being that once you come on the show, I'll STILL rag on your kids, I'll just do it to your face!"And that's the problem with Letterman. This stupid old fuck is trying to say "Hey, I didn't meant to joke about knocking up your underage daughter, I meant to tell a joke about porking your OF-AGE daughter." Seriously, THAT'S his douchebag defense? Even Obama during the election season said it was in poor taste to drag ANY of the candidate's kids into things -- and yet here we are months AFTER the election is over, the Democrats won, and yet Letterman is STILL making Palin jokes because he's got an ultra Leftist hemorrhoid up his ass that he feels a constant need to scratch.Seriously, I'd be willing to almost give Letterman a pass on the "slutty flight attendant" joke simply because he was cracking on Palin herself, who was the person in the spotlight. But all you fucks saying her KIDS are fair game better be careful what you wish for because I'm sure quite a few jokes about the Obama family can easily be brought up. But I forgot -- the second THAT happens, THEN you'll be morally outraged. Just gotta love that hypocrisy thing...
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it's almost comical how little you actually understand about polling, and more specifically, the questions from the latest gallup poll.
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when obama starts to trot his kids out for political gain, they are fair game...
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...That opening line in my post that specifically said "here is a reality check for the day" was meant for stupid fucks like you.
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I've got at least 50 IQ points on you
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Suck it
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I love that when Obama had a 70-plus approval rating and had positive ratings equally high on the issues, those on the Left did nothing but TRUMPET the polls. All we heard was how the polls were a SURE sign of how Americans wanted change and how an overwhelming number of people backed the Democrats and ALL of their plans, no matter how drastic they might be......And yet the second those numbers go down and flip around, as the American people wake up and say "WHOA! Hold your horses! That's NOT what I want!", suddenly THEN all the poll numbers are "twisted to support an opposing idea." Gotta love that hypocrisy TOO.And while we're at it, here's another new poll number and another bad sign for Obama: a clear majority of people now want his economic stimulus plan completely CANCELLED...with NO more money spent AT ALL...simply because the majority of people have now lost faith in what he's doing economically, and they likewise feel that spending SO much money is clearly NOT having any effect.
t they?
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They symbolise everything that can go wrong with human beings.
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you hateful, ignorant wastes of oxygen.
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People will just not vote before they vote republican. Even if we see a massive dissilusionment with the democratic party, the likely outcome would be most people NOT VOTING AT ALL. When you talk about twisting statistics you may want to have a look at your own party's poll numbers. As bad as it could potentially get for dems, repubs are completely fucked.
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i fucking hope that all the fucking palin children get raped by arod on a fucking roid rage binge i hope he knocks up all 4 of the palin whores, and that includes the little one who was busy licking her retarded brother (or is it nephew's) head during the rnc then, i hope arod continues on his rampage and ass rapes bush, cheney...the dyke cheney broad who wont shut the fuck up, fat rush, hannity, that bald fuck on msnbc who helped to defraud people of billions with his shitty stock calls, michael (shhh, dont tell anyone im jewish)savage, michael (my daddy did love me...its my adopted mom who hated my adopted guts) reagan...and every other wingnut fuck in this country fuck it....im gonna dig up bill hicks corpse and reanimate his ass....time for some zombie hicks humor he would fucking puke to see where america has gone since his death
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had the stupid cunt had her bastard child, and then slunk into the ether of drug infested wasilla, then you wingnut fucks would be right however, she like the cheney bitch, who is also just a child of a corrupt and evil pol, but cant keep her fat, cunt licking yap shut...the stupid bitch bristol went out of her way to make herself the "spokesbitch" for abstinence...something she never practiced add to that, she allowed herself to be put on the cover of multiple magazines, one, in a red grad gown with the bastard child himself therefore, all my ignorant wingnut fucks...she is now open to every motherfucking joke by every fucking comic in this country when you choose to become a public figure, that is what happens funny, never heard wingnuts say shite when mccains daughter was being pummled by the right, and being rediculed for her non existant weight prob...and she took it like a champ, and fought back on her own...and i would love to bang the conservative right out of her voluptuous bod
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There's about a hundred different things I could take you to task on in this talkback, but I'm going to stick to the DVD "gaffe" thing because it's the issue that most easily shows how ignorant you are.
See, in every other developed country in the world (i e not America), pretty much everybody has not only region-free, PAL/NTSC combo DVD players, but also multi-system televisions which can handle both PAL and NTSC. Only in America are there bitches whining about DVD releases in other countries and how this makes it impossible for them to watch them. Any film fan worth his salt in the rest of the world has DVDs from multiple regions. Even the most casual of DVD watchers in Europe is most likely to have a region-free player.
Even if that were NOT the case, do you really think that the leader of one of the most powerful nations in the western hemisphere wouldn't have the technological capabilities in his headquarters to watch DVDs from other countries?
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you named yourself well
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You are free to disagree, but the utter (and from what i can tell, wholly undeserved) bile projected at this chick can't help but make me root for her. She's pretty (for an old), she apparently can manage her state (it's not fiscally imploding, like CA), and her constituents seem to dig her. What the fuck was her crime? Daring to run against Obama? Fuck that noise.
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Fuck you leterman for bowing down that neo-con bitch. You are a fucking clown shoe.
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if you get merried to her afterwards
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The following things are not convincing at all: 1) Repeating "Obama can't speak without a Teleprompter." It's not true, and it's not even an insult. Are you saying every President before Obama totally improvised their speeches? I honestly don't get what you're going for here. Tease Obama for saying "uh," definitely, but dude is a great speaker, on and off-script. 2) Throwing around the words "communist," "socialist" and "fascist," like it's the Cold War. It's not. Those words probably mean a lot at the My Political Party Is Right About Everything circlejerks, but Normal People just roll their eyes. It's the grown-up version of playground name-calling. Lame. 3) Sarah Palin. Nobody is "scared" of Sarah Palin as a Presidential candidate in 2012. Yes, she's charismatic and attractive. But she doesn't understand the issues, doesn't communicate her opinions cogently, and consistently says insane things - like "Russia from my house," "Real America and Fake America," etc. Find a real candidate that can express your opinion on the issues, and not Bush in drag. Sincerely, A Normal Person, Who Does Not Let Politics Ruin His Life
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Blue1622 has it right. What the fuck is your problem with Palin to bring out such hatred? She ran for office, you on the Left won, so now you feel its warranted to pick on her KIDS, one of whom is underage? Not to mention she's guilty of what, going to a ballgame with her Mom? For THAT she deserves to get a rape joke aimed at her on national TV?FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES, and FUCK LETTERMAN TOO for his weak apology. Hell, Palin shouldn't have to worry about giving interviews and inferring that Letterman is likely a closet pedophile. When it comes to the point that he has to go on TV telling rape jokes about a 14 year old, he's probably got a limp dick that he can't get up anyway. And for all the usual bitching on the Left that the Right is nothing more than "intolerant old white guys who spew nothing but hate", you guys on the Left should seriously look in the mirror and look at the things you've been posting here about two innocent children. Yet why bother trying to evaluate actual morals? I'm sure you're quite proud of yourselves for being such classless idiots and for picking on two girls.As far as I'm concerned, two things have become clear. One, those of you on the Left who are spewing such bitter hate towards Palin are every bit as much of the problem that's gone wrong with this country as those you attempt to point fingers at. Your hate is just as bad and cancerous. And second, it's become painfully obvious that Palin still scares the shit out of the Left given how popular she remains to this day. I'm an Independent, but I have to say I actually get a laugh at how bat fuck insane Palin can drive the Left. SBlue1622 was right about one other thing. Apparently her crime was daring to run against Obama, and Heaven forbid anyone should dare to raise an opposing voice against your lord and master.Well, just remember the golden rule of politics: what goes around, comes around. And payback will be a bitch for the Left when the Republicans likely take back some seats in the midterms and throw a monkey wrench into Obama's ability to do whatever he wants. I can't wait to hear your bitching then.
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He actually gave in and asssed out by apologizing to this four eyed cunt. Fuck the rightoues breeding zealot bitch.Dave needs to grow a pair or is it that his ratings have dropped as a result of this "backlash"? Bill Maher would have just said fuck you, you bacon lipped cunt sludge....actually that's what DGDB would say.
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for anything. Never apologize... even when you are "wrong."
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Insuring that BO sees 4 more years.
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She has her supporters, and detrators.
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the Nailin' Paylin series? "Nailin Paylin: The Next Generation?" Or maybe Bristol, A-Rod, and Letterman will make an appearance in the next one. Either way, I think Lisa Ann (who plays Paylin and in the Eminem video) is the obvious choice for the Republican nomination in the 2016 Presidential Election.
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Jun 16, 2009 6:09:07 AM CDT
IT WOULD BE A REFRESHING CHANGE IF THE REPUBLICANS HERE
by bringingsexyback
condemned the current wave of rightwing assassins and domestic terrorists even half as vehemently as they do a guy who made a dumb joke.
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Completely agree. If I had kids, I wouldn't want comments like this aimed at them. The thing is, Palin has willfully and deliberately put her kids into the public domain, to assist her own political career, as well as the future careers of her children. It is exactly this kind of obnoxious, hypocritical, and self-serving behaviour that creates an environment wherein people are inevitably and rightly going to take a pop at you. Of course, it's the nature of that attack that's in question here. I'm not condoning any comments Letterman may or may not have made, but I understand the environment. It genuinely amazes that a family like the Palins can get so close to the Whitehouse, when even an army of spin doctors can't prevent them from appearing absolutely awful.
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Jun 16, 2009 6:12:41 AM CDT
THE WASHINGTON TIMES POSTED A PIC OF SASHA AND MALIA OBAMA
by bringingsexyback
in a story about Chicago gang shootings. Where was the outrage from the Right?
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Jun 16, 2009 6:13:44 AM CDT
WHEN THE CARTOONIST PORTRAYED OBAMA AS A SHOT MONKEY
by bringingsexyback
Where were you moral crusaders?
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Jun 16, 2009 6:18:14 AM CDT
RUSTY DEPASS, A GOP ACTIVIST COMPARED MICHELLE OBAMA
by bringingsexyback
to a gorilla.
AP: "South Carolina GOP activist and former chairman of the state elections commission Rusty DePass has apologized for saying a gorilla that escaped from a zoo was an "ancestor" of Michelle Obama.
The controversy started when FITSNews, a local politics Website, obtained a screengrab of DePass's comment on Facebook.
After an aide to state Attorney General Henry McMaster detailed the escape of the gorilla from Columbia's Riverbanks Zoo, DePass responded with a comment: "I'm sure it's just one of Michelle's ancestors - probably harmless."
DePass later admitted to WIS News that he was referring to Michelle Obama and said, "I am as sorry as I can be if I offended anyone. The comment was clearly in jest."
DePass, who was a county co-chair for Rudy Giuliani's 2008 campaign, supported the push to impeach President Bill Clinton in the late 90s, writing in an op-ed for The State, "Do Republicans have higher moral standards than Democrats?""
BWAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
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Jun 16, 2009 6:27:21 AM CDT
BOTTOM LINE: IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR KIDS MADE FUN OF
by bringingsexyback
Don't act like a cunt.
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Fail.
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An apology is never good enough. She wants to know why you did what you did, why did you think it was okay to do what you did, and wants assurance that you will never do it again. Fucking women.
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Man, now everyone on the talking head shows is gonna be talking about the latest Letterman apology. This just keeps going on and on. Anyway, heard on the morning news that apparently some of the show's advertisers DID pull out over this. So I guess Palin managed to hurt CBS and Letterman where it counts most: their wallets.
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right after I pelt the Palin protesters.
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jesus. a bunch of sheep.
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Jun 16, 2009 6:46:52 AM CDT
If Palin is disgusted then why is she against abortion for minor
by workshed
She is a two-faced fucking hypocrite and you need to be incredibly thankful that she and McWho? weren't elected to office. Dave - fuck 'em.! The joke was funny and you DON'T need to apologise. So don't.
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I hope she gets trampled by a herd of moose. Or whatever the hell lives in that wasteland called Alaska.
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... if Willow really was raped by A-Rod, and impregnated -- Palin would make her carry the baby to term.
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...yes, Sarah Palin is a mental midget - but come on: Letterman was absolutely targeting the joke at the daughter who was at the game. Don't be so fucking naive.....I laughed at the joke; almost everyone did...but if David had made that joke about one of President Obama's daughters (even without naming them), he'd be off the air permanently.
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Seriously, Palin is loving every second of this cause it's extending her 15 minutes. Enough said. Move on people.
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I can appreciate if you are offended when someone makes jokes about your family. Dave should know the consequence of his words but so does Palin, reacting the way she did brings out all the reactionaries out of the woodwork. All it seemed to have done is give a chance for everyone to be angry at something. Get your face on the news cause you have an opinion about this. I see this woman on fox almost shaking with anger and wanting Dave off the air. If Palin was a little more clear than just a written statement not every lunatic would start talking for her. And by the way, if you are really offended; put in a complaint, start a civil suit. Don't look for fucking media to settle your battles. That is weak and Dave, I know you are out there. Slap on the wrist, you should have known better my friend.
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While in Paris, Michelle Obama walked into a bar and ordered a double entendre, so the barman gave it to her.
See, this joke works on many levels. 1) its timly because Michelle was just in Paris, 2) its about sex and that is always funny, 3) it poke fun at her percieved haughty intellectual nature, and 4) its a joke about some politician's family member getting...well...you know.
Did you hear how Ashley Biden requested black cocaine? Apparently the white cocaine lines weren't big enough.
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She's a fucking idiot who Governs a slab of ice. Fuck her.
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Get this ridiculous idea out of your heads. We are disgusted because she represents the everything we despise about that 30% of the electorate(the only people that would EVER vote for her). Sarah Palin is to liberals what Michael Moore is to conservatives...the most concentrated version of the politics and ideals that we despise.
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I don't blame either party. Dave's a comedian and he made a joke that was in poor taste. That's nothing new for him. Big deal. I don't fault Palin for being upset either... I would stand up for my child as well. It's the media and the public that have blown this out of proportion. The notion that Dave should be fired is assinine. Dave has apologized, let's all move on.
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That's not a knock against you, Herc, or AICN. It's just the reality of the situation.
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Calling someone a piece of shit for no reason is sub human. What don't you like about a person's policies? Lifestyle should have nothing to do with it if they can govern effectively. M. Eisener pulled Disney out of debit even though he was Draconian in his policies. People on this board what X person raped and Y person killed have lost their humanity. Running party lines and not liking someone just because your leader tells you not to like them make you sheep. At the time of the election my sister could not remember Obama's running mate though thought Palin was the anti-christ giving no other reason but not liking her. She could not mention on policy point. When i called her out on it she felt foolish.
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Not a polictical site! Please keep focus. Darkhorizons is out scooping this site for useless garbage like this.
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Not a polictical site! Please keep focus. Darkhorizons is out scooping this site for useless garbage like this.
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The political TBs get the traffic levels up, get more people on the site...repeaters...and allows AICN to charge 10 cents more an ad. That that Palin is just fun to fist fuck.
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"Lifestyle should have nothing to do with it?"
Are you sure? I imagine there's a lot of people whose lifestyles ARE their politics. Palin seems a pretty good example of this.
Oh, and while I agree that I'm more interested in the film news on AICN, you have to accept that you've clicked onto a story about an entertainer offending a politician. Where did you think this was going to go? -
Jun 16, 2009 9:11:05 AM CDT
It's not about Palin - It's about attacking people's children
by johnnyangel
And that is WRONG no matter what your politics are.
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Conan completely sucks. Most people would be a better tonight show host than him. Even Leno was better. The hideous wax dummies he brought on the show last night would be better hosts.
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sarah palin's daughter is warwick davis?
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Agreed but I remember a time when Ainitcool made entertainment news not just reported old news or politically tinge stuff. Other sites have now replaced what was once the geek haven. It seems the writers (harry, herc, etc.) are pushing their own agenda what movies they report on(Land of Lost instead of Hangover) and what politcal slant they are.
As for lifestyles yes if they make it their politics (NY gov persuing prostitute and sleeping with one, Edwards family dude while having an affair, Bush Sr. no new taxes, etc.) then they should be called down, but when I see this X person should be raped or Y person is a piece of shit with out examples is like looking at a essay about how M. Eisner suck donkey balls with out any explaination.
One further note it is odd that in this day and age when a person becomes an adult. So when an 18 year old guns down some people they look toward the parents being at fault, but when a 26 does the same its his fault. It is a bit gray when people can be responsible for their own actions. Ask anyone in this forum at 16 would want to bang women left and right, but when that same 16 year old gets pregnant its the parents fault. -
Agreed but I remember a time when Ainitcool made entertainment news not just reported old news or politically tinge stuff. Other sites have now replaced what was once the geek haven. It seems the writers (harry, herc, etc.) are pushing their own agenda what movies they report on(Land of Lost instead of Hangover) and what politcal slant they are.
As for lifestyles yes if they make it their politics (NY gov persuing prostitute and sleeping with one, Edwards family dude while having an affair, Bush Sr. no new taxes, etc.) then they should be called down, but when I see this X person should be raped or Y person is a piece of shit with out examples is like looking at a essay about how M. Eisner suck donkey balls with out any explaination.
One further note it is odd that in this day and age when a person becomes an adult. So when an 18 year old guns down some people they look toward the parents being at fault, but when a 26 does the same its his fault. It is a bit gray when people can be responsible for their own actions. Ask anyone in this forum at 16 would want to bang women left and right, but when that same 16 year old gets pregnant its the parents fault. -
Everybody that is a hardcore lib or hardcore neo-con, remember that shit when North Korea decides to bomb the shit out of us while we're arguing about fuckin' Sarah Palin.
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When the hell will Palin for embaressing the country ?
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You know that?
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What the fuck, everyone is someone's child. Chelsea Clinton was the butt of numerous jokes and Bill never made anyone apologize from what I remember. And you didn't seem to care then.
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What the fuck, everyone is someone's child. Chelsea Clinton was the butt of numerous jokes and Bill never made anyone apologize from what I remember. And you didn't seem to care then.
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That Sarah Palin is pretty hot.
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I'd tap them all. I'd shoot it in Sarah's face though, that is unless she begged me to, in which case I would shoot it in Todd's.
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... wow, I didn't know that something was simply empirically not funny. Who decides these things?
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she couldn't be any worse as president than the douchebag in the white house now. He's already worse than Jimmy Carter.
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"She Looks Like Pocahontas, So If You're Thinking About Raping Her, You Can Say It Was Just For A History Project"
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MrGreenStache, that wasn't funny. You're a dickhead.
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To be honest with you, surely the joy of the internet is the choice? If things become stale for you here, then there's other film sites out there. Personally, I'be been coming here for years now, and I regularly find these boards one of the most engaging aspects - even when it gets (vaguely) political. As for Harry's alleged bias, he makes it fairly clear where he stands, so you just work around that ;)
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and yup, you're a dick.
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if you don't find Sarah Palin a walking insult to the entire political system, you're a fundamentally damaged person. There is a very disturbing subculture that's been going on in the US for a long time, and it's far more prevalent in the South. And it is a culture where the dumber you present yourself, the more positively your peers embrace you, and being smart makes you a pariah. And Palin is now essentially the spokesperson for this subculture. Dumb is 'salt of the earth', 'real american', and smart is faggy and european. Poor John McCain aligned himself with this faction and it bit him in the ass. But as others have said, please, all you dumb-worshipping republican morlocks out there, I emplore you to keep Palin on the pedestal, for all to see, because it shows everyone just how disgusting this 'dumb is great' subculture really is.
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Don't you fuckin' dare to presume you have the authority to speak on my behalf.
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Everybody go back to your basements.
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Get some clips that we can UNDERSTAND!!!!
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When you make family values and morality, particularly abstinence part of your political campaign than your lack of parenting skills and your underage slut of a daughter's pregnancy is fair game. Hypocrisy at its worst. And she sets back women's equality by 20 years by asking to be treated with kid gloves. Go back to Alaska and take care of your children instead of being a media whore or else Willow is gonna end up pregnant too.
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Who said I was attempting to speak on anyone's behalf? Looks like you're probably a part of that subculture I mentioned. At any rate, I think it's awesome that you disagree with the notion that the dumb=salt of the earth culture is a bad thing. I would absolutely LOVE for you to show me the error of my ways. In as much detail as possible, please.
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David apologized. He clearly thought it was over blown, then realized how people hearing the joke took and he thought he should apologize. Now it's over. But lets see if the Palin clan try and keep the attention going. If so you know where there priorities are....
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You can hate Sarah Palin's political and social beliefs all you want, but when your hatred spills out over her and her children then I think you have gone too far. And I do not believe teenagers should be ridiculed on national TV for getting pregnant. And I think there is something seriously wrong with those of you who are so filled with hatred that you think it's OK to attack children because you disagree with the parent.
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Bristol is an ADULT and a new MOTHER, not a child (at least in the eyes of the law). And YES she is fair game if she is being trotted out on national TV by her own socially conservative mother ot hypocritically endorse policies even her own daughter knows aren't realistic.
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If she truly accepted apology, she'll stop the protests at the Ed Sullivan theatre today.
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He was stuck in a bad postion. He made a joke about of-age Bristol (which IS fair game, however off-color it may have been) and Palin and her dumb-thug patrol spread LIES about him to make it look like he was wishing her underage daughter would be raped in public. Should he have succumbed? Ideally, no, he should have stuck to his guns and attacked Palin for distortign the truth. But as he said in his own statement. It's not intent that matters, it's PERCEPTION. And becasue of Palin's despicable attack campaign the public perceived him to making lude comments about and underage girl. So he did what he had to do. Fuck Sarah Palin and everything she and her backwater family stand for.
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its all about context
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Jun 16, 2009 10:57:25 AM CDT
If she runs in 2012, this is the reason I won't vote for her
by kbarber29
Making shit up is her forte.
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Extending Palin's 15 minutes...
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Extending Palin's 15 minutes...
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It'll send the GOP further into the wilderness.
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people say you can't joke about rape. They say rape's not funny. And I say, fuck you, I think its hilarious. How do you like that?
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...because she probably would have willingly taken on A-Rod, given who raised her.
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Jun 16, 2009 11:12:24 AM CDT
Face it: Palin victimized her own 14 year old daughter.
by bob cryptonight
If not for her, the joke would have died since most people would have assumed Letterman's writers meant the older fucking-out-of-wedlock daughter. But Palin had other schemes, so she--REPEAT, SHE--dragged the 14 year old into this by FORCING everyone to hear HER VERSION of a joke that no one really cared about anyway. She is a piece of work, that woman. What a dirty creep.
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But some folks on the right do need to get the sticks out of their asses. It was a lame joke. That is all. Let it go, people.I'd vote for her in 2012. Not that I think she'd win, but I'd vote for her. But I'm expecting a Mitt Romney or somebody to play the lukewarm, milquetoast, highly varnished politician next time around.
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He says it's cool. Why hate Palin for pointing it out? It probably helped with a lot of the demographics on the left. ;)
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I guess Seth McFarlane and Matt Stone and Trey Parker can't ever get to work. Cuz Lettermen is a piker when it comes to tasteless humor, compared to some of the folks out there. And Seth McFarlane is bankrolled by Rupert Murdoch. Just sayin'.
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I recognize that the girls would be the one on the...uhh...receiving end...but isn't the joke really that A-Rod would rape a girl? That's all I got from this joke, really.
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Seriously, the woman makes George Bush Jr. look like Einstein by comparison. And now she's a shameless media whore. Dave's joke was OBVIOUSLY about Bristol, and it was pretty damned funny, which is rare on Letterman. But Letterman did he very best to still diffuse the situation before it got out of hand. He apologized for the joke, invited Sarah Palin on his show, and made some self-depricating jokes. Palin won't come on his show to attack him to his face. She won't accept his apologies, and she won't let it go. And sadly, we're all letting this media whore win by even talking about it. I'm done.
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"An apology is never good enough. She wants to know why you did what you did, why did you think it was okay to do what you did, and wants assurance that you will never do it again."Ain't it the truth. Then she'll bring it up again months or years later, and tell Dave he's been making jokes like that forever, and why does he have to be like that? And why do you say mean things about me, you horrible bastard from hell who should die, when I'm so nice and sweet to you all the time, you insufferable asshole? Also, I hope you die a slow, terrible, horrible painful death. Because you can't be nice. Like me. Stop by the store and get some goat cheese on the way home.
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I'd also vote for Betty Rubble over Obama. Or Barney Rubble, if it came to that. Or Fred Flinstone. Or Ralph Cramden.Even though Palin is kinda coming off like a media whore, and the folks protesting Letterman over this are coming off like dipshits. Even so, I'd still vote for Palin over Obama. Mitt Romney over Obama? I dunno. Maybe.
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zzzzzz
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Wh yeaxctly would you vote for palin over obama, assuming you did once already anyway?
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Jun 16, 2009 11:37:27 AM CDT
Kevin, you probably did vote for Palin over Obama - and lost!
by kbarber29
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And there's only one answer to all those questions. Because I'm a man.
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Because America deserves better.
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Just don't be surprised if you're tossed in a FEMA concentration camp for it.
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Jun 16, 2009 11:42:49 AM CDT
Letterman joke = nothing. Stanhope's bit is offensive though
by smudgewhat
i don't care for comedy about women's 'stretched out' genitals. and i'm no prude.
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Nuff said.
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I hate going up the ass.
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At least that's how I PERCIEVE it.
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What did you guys do with yours?
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The best collectible I might add.
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Fridge.
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Jun 16, 2009 11:52:10 AM CDT
CAN'T WAIT FOR THE OPENING OF THE BARACK OBAMA MUSEUM
by bringingsexyback
Maybe Dave can host it.
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They should put that in the next werewolf movie. She's got her rifle in the Sikorskly takes aim, starts pluggin away but no effect (not silver bullets, you see) then one of them Lycan sonsabitches lookes up, morphs into half man half wolf jumps up and takes the bitch out, takes a couple of swipes at the rest of the crew, leaps back to the ground safely while morphing back into full wolf form, cut to cliche' slo mo shot of full wolf (Lycan) pack running towards the camera while helicopter crashes and explodes on the ground behind them. This shit writes itself.
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And what, pray tell, is the most obvious reprieve? Simple, isn't it...?BATTLE ROYALE!!!!!!!!Seriously...Palin just became the face of modern feminism and will bring liberty to women the world over. Sexism will end on Saracuda's watch! Penis owners beware!Letterman has finally been exposed as the near omnipotent ring-leader of the entire world's population of child-predators. Who knew right? I just thought he was a talk show host slash comedian who hasn't been funny since NBC but I was pathetically naive! In reality, he's a international pedophilia practitioner and criminal mastermind and all young people should be "kept away from Dave".Before you respond..please know that I can only respond in idiotic over-reactions as this is the new "normal reaction" and makes me really cool and inspiring. So be cautious when you call me stupid as I'll overreact, believe you, and end up getting arrested for counting past 20.Or if you say I'm right, I'll start thinking I'm a genius and end up trying to build my own spaceship out of a radio flyer and tupperware. Or maybe a lasergun from my sister's hairdryer, a pack of grape pop-rocks, and a ball-point pen.
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Jun 16, 2009 11:57:40 AM CDT
Hey, sexy, that's a great idea. But he's not museum material ye
by kbarber29
So far, he's only got one thing going for him. He's the first African American President. Museum would be pretty boring if that was it's only feature.
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And Sarah will be the first to ride it.
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Especially when on their period! Okay, I admit that was sexist. Sorry!
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Jun 16, 2009 12:01:21 PM CDT
SARAH PALIN AND KATE GOSSELIN ARE CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH
by bringingsexyback
They are the worst examples of motherhood. Self-absorbed, selfish hags who exploit their children to get what they want.
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Of course she has to use her children. What mother wouldn't!
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Jun 16, 2009 12:03:11 PM CDT
IT WOULD BE FUNNY IF OBAMA APPEARED ON LETTERMAN'S SHOW
by bringingsexyback
And issued a Presidential pardon to him.
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Anyone who finds her attractive has no taste.
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And walk behind me.
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That would be frickin' hillarious!
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Why? Do you also give serious consideration to the opinions of Klansmen on civil rights? Or get TV show recommendations from Amish people?
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He came on Joe Fuck's HBO debut, and took over. It was awesome. He was sitting in between Paul Rudd and Jason Sedaris, and proceeded to eviscerate the host. Joe Buck didn't know what he was in for, and he deserved every bit of it, because he sucks. That show was a snoozefest. There was a ton of hype because Brett Favre was coming out of hiding to be interviewed. That segment was a waste of time. He said exactly nothing. Then, Artie came on and actually made it interesting television. Good job, fat boy!
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Battle Royales are phun!
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Jun 16, 2009 12:09:27 PM CDT
People don't take the right seriously, that's why they lost
by kbarber29
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She's Buttfuggly. That's a cool word.
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Even children are now fair game in our search to demonize and destroy political opponents. Our country has just become an even more hateful and vulgar place. Congratulations.
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I've always liked Dave. I can't believe this is such a big fucking deal.
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Aren't you afraid you'll get some of Titbag's mung drippings on you? It's gotta be like that virus from 28 Days Later. We've already had H1N1 this year, I wouldn't want to risk a P3N15 pandemic too. I don't think there's a healthcare system in the world capable of that sort of rehabilitation.
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His homophobia is more of a schtick than a core belief, I think.
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The only think I'm afraid of is Titbag boring me to death. FFS!!!
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You can't get a more hateful and vulgar place than right wing talk radio or the right wing blogosphere.
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All they can seem to do is bitch about things that don't really matter or they make things up and go crazy. If you listen to any talk radio it is insane Obama could make it rain money and they would find a problem with it and call with names. Palin needs to go the way of the Dinosaurs. By that I mean she needs to die off and be brought back by scientists and then attack a small group of visitors on Jurassic Park.
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In an interview with BBC News, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen star Shia LaBeouf says that it looks like a follow-up to Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is moving forward.
"Steven [Spielberg] just said that he cracked the story on it before I left and I think they're gearing that up," LaBeouf said. Last summer's blockbuster was made for about $185 million and earned $786.6 million worldwide. It was the second-highest earner of 2008, behind just The Dark Knight.
LaBeouf also briefly talked about the Wall Street sequel that teams him with director Oliver Stone and Michael Douglas. "'Money Never Sleeps' is, I think, the official title now," he said. -
Strangely enough I'm not a right winger. In fact I voted for Obama and disagree with almost everything Palin says. However, I strongly believe that all candidates' children, Palin's, Obama's, everyone's children should be off limits. I have no idea what Rush Limbaugh or other right wingers are saying because I pay them no attention. I think it is only human decency to avoid attacking people's families and I am rather flabbergasted that everyone seems to disagree.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3er0fleyg6A&feature=player_embedded
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for decades conservatives have criticized left for always playing the victim, but ever since Palin's stepped on the scene all she's done is played the swooning Scarlet O'hara in distress. From Obama to McCain to Katie Curic now this. geez.
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Look at all the jokes made of the mom with octopulets after she already had six kids.
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An buttfugly one too.
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I remember comedians making jokes about babies in Iraq being dropped off a bridge after a few cuts with a knife.
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Jun 16, 2009 12:44:34 PM CDT
THE RIGHT USED TERRY SCHIAVO AS A POLITICAL FOOTBALL
by ayatollahsexyback
Do you remember how fast they dropped her when their ploy wasn't working? Leaving her family torn apart for no goddamned reason? Sick.
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Jun 16, 2009 12:46:48 PM CDT
Remember how the right tried to impeach Clinton over Monica!
by kbarber29
Or how they attacked Clinton for smoking weed. It's funny. The right attacked Clinton for smoking weed, but when Bush admitted to coke, there were no complaints.
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Watch: http://tinyurl.com/nwlngp
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Coke is another matter. Especially if you're President.
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...Because of alleged sexual harassment that involved him talking about porn and pubic hairs on coke cans? But then a year later they plugged their ears when candidate Clinton was called out for his decades long record of far worse incidents. And I don't remember any sort of organized attacks against Clinton's pot smoking, it was the ridiculous "I didn't inhale" quote that got him in trouble. Speaking of which remember the endless screams from the left about Bush being a "fucking fratboy cokehead"? Yet somehow nobody minds when it's cokehead Obama.
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glad to hear you're playing for the right team. And I agree with you that in politics children should be off the table. But, comedy is different as others have mentioned here. Was Letterman's joke in bad taste? Of course. And had it truly been aimed at Palin's 14 year old daughter it would have been inappropriate, perhaps for late night. But, it wasn't and Palin knows that and she is making this about something it wasn't and milking it for all it's worth.
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What was that about? Pubic hairs on Coke cans? Disgusting.
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That's sexual harassment. Is that what he did?
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Jun 16, 2009 1:09:30 PM CDT
I PREDICT ABOUT 20 PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP FOR THE PROTEST
by ayatollahsexyback
NEW YORK (CNN) – Despite an apology Monday night from David Letterman, a protest rally outside of Letterman's Ed Sullivan Theater in New York will still go on as planned Tuesday, according to its organizer.
Political documentarian and conservative radio talk show host, John Ziegler, tells CNN that the point of the rally is to, "Raise awareness and get some sort of accountability."
He says that Letterman's apology, "Would have been fine had it come six days ago. This apology came seven days after the fact and his first apology was completely self serving." He added, "We think our voices should still be heard."
The protest is scheduled to take place as Letterman begins taping Tuesday's program. The group is angry over a joke the talk show host told related to the family of Sarah Palin.
Ziegler could not confirm how many of the more than 2,000 people he originally indicated would be attending had canceled. The rally's page on Facebook has approximately 200 confirmed guests. 1,383 have declined the invitation since the Letterman apology.
A significant number of the people who are attending list their residence as out of state.
Ziegler, who produced "Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected and Palin was Targeted" is also promoting his upcoming film, "Blocking the Path to 9/11."
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And fuck most of you.
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and Titbag.
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I always know when a conservative is effective by the amount of hate he or she generates from leftists. When leftists are really and truly scared of a conservative's potential they go bat-shit crazy on them. Keep hating, Herc. When Letterman makes a joke about Palin's daughter being at a Yankee game and the daughter turns out to be of the 14 year old variety and not the 18 year old variety then yes, he deserves to get kicked in the nuts a bit for it. Letterman's on record now saying the joke's indefensible - but by all means do keep defending it.
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So does this mean he told Lucas to stay the hell away this time (no aliens!!!).
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All he's guilty of is thinking that Anita Hill needed some meat in her seat. Can he help it if she's all stuck up and shit? It probably was her pubic hair on that Coke can. Hairy ass bitch!
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They can't be serious. Who are these self-serving assholes?! Don't they realize this will give Letterman some of the best material he's had in years?!I wonder if folks like Ziegler expect to get an apology out of Palin for the continuing embarrassment she brings to the Republican party. Probably not. As has been shown, they'll defend her ignorance at all costs.
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...Glenn Beck is crying.
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Let's protest Letterman for Sarah!
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I'm sure he said something snide about Pat Nixon!
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behind the protesters.
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Jun 16, 2009 1:30:35 PM CDT
JOHN ZIEGLER LIKES PROTESTS SO MUCH WE SHOULD SEND HIM
by ayatollahsexyback
to Iran.
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So now he's a Glenn Beck clone. Wow, sad. I guess he ditched Frank Langella's understudy for Masters of the Univers Allan Combs.
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Oh fuck off. Clarence Thomas sexually harassed Anita Hill. A despicable abuse of power. Clinton had consensual sex with an of-age tubby intern. Big difference.
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...by a joke making fun of a candidate's daughter. OUTRAGED, I tell you! But all those jokes about Chelsea Clinton? HILARIOUS! And TOTALLY different. She was the daughter of a LIBERAL, see... tsk, don't be such whiny babies, liberals!
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Personally performed! With my trusty, rusty scissors! (Prostate check optional). And remember:
ANTICHRIST: CRUSHING YOUR BALLS IN 2009!!! -
ONLY Letterman was called out for this. Why? Most all "left" leaning comedians have done similar "attacks" on both Palin and her children (including the minor kids!) and most of that came from "News" shows and not a late night comedy show. Where was the apeshit lunatic freakshow then? Where was the cries of sexism then?McCain, infamously, said a joke "You know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father!" (Chelsea was 14 at the time) and nary a 'foofoo' was heard in any press much less a full court press ala the Palin Martyr train. And this guy was a senator at the time! Did we demand his job! (to his credit, he did apologize tho)I dont give a shit which side is your side and who you want to win this idiotic "game" of who's right and who's wrong...this is yet another example of how we are not really serious about the important stuff. That we're still in high school and that there is no fucking thing as adulthood in this country. A couple times a year someone *says* something and along comes a brigade of "adults" who turn it into an over-reaction circus. And then, the shit that really matters? That would be *perfect* to open a national dialogue? Nahh..that's too icky and real! (Rhianna and abuse at the hands of boyfriends/husbands/etc...home grown terrorism in the form of the psuedo-right, etc)...Really...there is no such thing as adulthood in America. Which is fine except half of you are pretending there is and thus nobody's having any damn fun! Let it go! Party hardy Marty! Why so serious!?!!?!?
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That's the most amazing part, not that she accused Letterman of endorsing rape but that she found an opportunity to thank the troops - for protecting her freedom to fight with David Letterman. Fucking ridiculous.
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you can expect some jokes about it.
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Their ads are fucking everywhere!!!!
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FFS!!!
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Guess whose pic popped up?
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and Brutus the Barber too?
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Apologize now. I'll start:
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For protecting my freedom to post here about what a piece of shit Sarah Palin is.
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LET FREEDOM RING, BEEYATCHES!
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I voted for Obama so you no longer have to be the Republicans' toy soldiers anymore. Come home safe.
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Palin said Tuesday that Letterman has the right to joke about whatever he wants to, and "thankfully we have the right to express our reaction."
"This is all thanks to our U.S. military men and women putting their lives on the line for us to secure American's right to free speech," she said. "In this case, may that right be used to promote equality and respect." -
because my eyes rolled so hard.
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On this I agree with her.
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for the artist of the millennium award.
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I'm not a Democrat by any means, but it is scary the depths of this "protect the children" lynch-mob mentality has gone to. Dave is now considered a pedophile for making jokes about an 18-year old slut?If that makes you a pedophile, everyone that posted in those Twilight talkback should go to prison.Morons like the Palins are an embarrassment to the Conservative movement and should be discreetly muzzled and replaced by smarter conservatives. (Yes, they exist.)
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For being the superior format.
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more time.
Oh, yea:
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for their wonderful horror remakes that fight for the rights of young women accross the world.
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Letterman to play Susan George's character while Sarah plays the inbred brit.
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...being accused of child rape &
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Warwick Davis!
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and let Dave make that "mistake" talking about one of the Obama kids..he be dead by now...I don't agree with 90 percent of what his highness is bringing but I'll be damned if I'd take shots at his kids..
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Jun 16, 2009 2:37:19 PM CDT
Does this mean it's OK to make jokes about Michelle Obama's rese
by maverick68
to Kim Hunter in that movie? Is it?
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Last time I checked they haven't had any teen pregnancys and then gone on national television extolling the virtures of abstainence. If they do, then make a joke.
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Jun 16, 2009 2:38:49 PM CDT
YOU THINK OBAMA WOULD ACT LIKE A DRAMA QUEEN OVER A BAD JOKE?
by ayatollahsexyback
Surely you do not know the Savior as well as we do.
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If this had been aimed at the Pres's kids he'd gone insane....dipshits any Dad would..and even if one of the kids was knocked up they are STILL kids..you want to break bad on Daddy or Mommy fine..leave the kiddies alone..no matter which party Mommy or Daddy is in..
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promoting your agenda.
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Hire a babysitter!
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And he's doing his damnest. But he's finding that presidents don't get to fundamentally transform America by decree. But how about the terrorists sunning in their private resort in Bermuda? That was quite an achievement, eh? Particularly when that punk Obama doesn't bother to consult anyone about the move.
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A couple of months ago The Washington Times put a pic of Obama's girls in a story about Chicago gang shootings. What do you think his reaction was?
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Jun 16, 2009 2:52:10 PM CDT
CASTLEMONSTER: WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE TO SAVE THE COUNTRY
by ayatollahsexyback
Let's hear it.
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Jun 16, 2009 2:54:06 PM CDT
I THINK AFTER SPENDING YEARS IN GITMO AND BEING RIPPED
by ayatollahsexyback
from your family, a short vacation in Bermuda is a good start.
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Ah, welcome to the Coughlins Laws / RowdyRoddyBrane world of hyperbole!Make sure to hand Glenn Beck a tissue...
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Jun 16, 2009 2:56:00 PM CDT
CASTLEMONSTER HAS ALL THE ANSWERS TO SOLVE EVERY CRISIS
by ayatollahsexyback
We're just waiting for his divine word.
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He admitted to being an alcoholic. Obama is the one who admitted he did coke. Just to keep the record straight.
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Jun 16, 2009 3:00:44 PM CDT
THE PEOPLE OF HARDIN, MONTANA WANT THE GITMO DETAINEES
by ayatollahsexyback
But the politicians won't let them have them. They have a brand new prison constructed but not used, and they need the income bad. I heard about this on NPR.
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Because, without getting deep in the details, I think she would be slightly less bad for the country. I don't care for corporate bail outs, raising taxes, nationalized healthcare, etc. But it really doesn't matter, because he's in for at least four years and probably eight, so who I voted for (McLame and Palin) or who I will vote for (any Republican except maybe Huckabee) doesn't really matter. Maybe in 2010, or house races in 2012. The polls on Obama's popularity tell the tale. I would've voted for Hoover over FDR, so I may just be prone to vote against the tide of history.
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Jun 16, 2009 3:01:28 PM CDT
WHY IS IT THAT A WINGNUT CAN NEVER ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION?
by ayatollahsexyback
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I have to read slower...sorry.
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A conversation between Bush and an old friend, author Doug Wead, touched on the subject of use of illegal drugs. In the taped recording of the conversation, Bush explained his refusal to answer questions about whether he had used marijuana at some time in his past. “I wouldn’t answer the marijuana questions,” Bush says. “You know why? Because I don’t want some little kid doing what I tried.”[14] When Wead reminded Bush of his earlier public denial of using cocaine, Bush replied, "I haven't denied anything."kinda clear, to my mind...
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Jun 16, 2009 3:03:29 PM CDT
You didn't need to hear a comprehensive plan from Obama
by castlemonster
before voting for him. Why are you asking me for one? I don't get anything out of it. America doesn't need to be saved, anyhow. That is just an old trope for getting swept into office by clueless buttheads like you. So far he's carrying on a lot of the Bush policies after campaigning against them for a year. And I know you love that!
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doesn't work. It's proven. Didn't you learn anything from Reagan and W?
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But by czars. More czars than the Russian empire--or any previous president--and an unprecedented expansion of government power that surely would have been remarked upon with at least a modicum of distrust had it been a Republican appointing a czar for every issue "too important" to be bogged down by the legislative process, or conventions of advise and consent. But, that's what the American people voted for.We get what we get and we don't pitch a fit.
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It was RC.
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But let's not go there. Here's an article about Hardin:
"Hardin, Montana bids to be new Guantánamo Bay
Hardin wants to rehouse detainees in disused prison to boost jobs and prospects
Buzz up!
Digg it
Paul Harris in New York
Even the good times are pretty tough in the small town of Hardin, nestled deep in the "Big Sky" countryside of Montana. And these are not good times.
So the city of 3,400 people has launched an unusual civic effort to bring jobs and prosperity back to its dusty streets: to become the Gitmo of the north.
Barack Obama's plan to close Guantánamo Bay has sent politicians scrambling to promise that none of the prisoners will be rehoused on their patch. But not Hardin.
Instead, the local council has launched an audacious bid to relocate Guantánamo detainees to the town, offering up a state-of-the-art prison facility that is currently sitting empty. Members voted unanimously to back the proposal and have been actively courting the media to promote the plans.
Hardin's economic development director, Greg Smith, has even toured the empty prison with a camera crew from al-Jazeera. He is convinced the move would be good for Hardin and for the world.
"This is an opportunity to both do something right for us and possibly also something that is right for the country," Smith told the Guardian.
Certainly Hardin is a rather different environment than Cuba. The tropical temperatures of the Caribbean would be replaced by the long Montana winters where snow fall is heavy and temperatures dip below freezing for weeks on end. A seemingly endless expanse of prairie will replace simmering blue seas.
Though few places would relish playing host to suspected terrorists including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-confessed mastermind of the 9/11 plot, Hardin's leaders believe their economic need trumps security concerns.
Hardin sits in Montana's poorest county and has an unemployment rate higher than 10%. Its local mall is shut and jobs are scarce. The new prison, built for $27m, was meant to change that. But instead it is empty after a new Montana governor decided not to use it.
There is opposition to the Gitmo resettlement plan. Some locals have complained bitterly and other politicians in Montana have expressed deep reservations. "We're not going to bring al-Qaida to Big Sky country. No way. Not on my watch," a local senator, Max Baucus, told Time magazine.
But Smith is not deterred. "I know this is a long shot but we can do this," he said."
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wouldn't you think that's a good thing? Is it me or do others have problems communicating with Republicans?
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Jun 16, 2009 3:08:46 PM CDT
CASTLE - BUT OBAMA DID GIVE US A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
by ayatollahsexyback
One he's following about, oh, 90% to the letter. But you don't even have an idea. So if you don't have any ideas, on what basis do you judge his performance? Fucknut?
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Every time they're tried. Revenues to the federal treasure doubled within three years after Reagan's tax cuts, and except for the capital gains tax hike that Reagan went along with (that led directly to the corporate downsizing that the news was saturated with during the Reagan years). W. was a quasi-supply sider, and so we got quasi-economic results, and there was a marked lack of supply-side, market-centric legislation on the part of the W. administration (and the Repubs in congress) in areas of banking and housing (in fact, more and more government incentives that interfered with market forces). Plus, Bush signed off on stuff like a gigantic expansion in Medicare entitlements, which ain't exactly a supply side approach. Bush got some temporary tax cuts done--and revenues to the treasury, due to increased taxable economic activity, went up considerably. Which is just the facts, jack.Pre-emptive wars or wars of liberation may be justifiable from some moral or national security viewpoints (not saying they are, just saying it's arguable), but spending billions in Iraq certainly ain't supply side, and I can't see a way to argue that it would be.
But . . . we're going to try a more command economy approach to things, and see how it works out. Maybe it will be better than us right-wing nutcakes think, but, so far, I'm not seeing it. -
Well, doesn't make it a confession, but, okay. Drugs are bad.Keeping in mind, of course, many conservatives--including founding father of the conservative movement, William F. Buckley, are pro-legalization. I'm not sure about cocaine, but I certainly think marijuana ought to be legalized. That being said, I would hope no president gets coked up in the Whitehouse. That just seems like a bad idea.
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Because in a real world there is no way to apply it with the desired results, just like communism. It all sound nice in theory, but it can't work in application.
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"To hell with A-Rod. I'll fuck that little bitch myself, and the mongoloid baby too! I don't give a FEEEEEUUUUCCCKKKK!"
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And I didn't think of this as a serious issue. I just like ridiculing festered hate-spewing sewer trolls.
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Tax cuts for the middle class and no taxes on healthcare benefits, ever. That's crazy talk! I'm pretty sure I remember that. I don't remember a 7 trillion bail out, but . . . details, details. I sure am looking forward to that tax cut he basically hasn't mention since the inauguration.
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May again. Nothing is pure. Bush was just a little too far afield to make a good case study.But it just don't matter, cuz we're going to get alot more government involvement, and enjoy the results of that, whatever they may be. And damage could be minimal--previous experience (Nixon) has taught us that wage and price controls are a bad idea. So, we'll probably avoid that. But Supply Side is out in Washington, so we're going to be trying it the other way for the indefinite future, and see how that works.
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Okay, my bad I thought you had something to back up your post. Silly me.
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It was in poor taste, and he shouldn't have done it any more than he should make rape jokes about Obama's kids.
But he apologized, it's over, I don't see any need for anybody to be upset at Dave any more.
It does seem that Dave has gotten more partisan in the last few years, though... and in the wrong direction, to boot.
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...are like two marbles rolling around in an empty shoe box. True story.
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Your faith in supply side economics is astounding, considering how the extent of corporate America's greed has been on full display for the last 9 months.
You're a very smart guy, but too deeply entrenched in Conservative dogma to see your own faulty thinking.
However, I could agree with you if corporate America were run by Progressive Liberals. Because only then would supply side have the necessary psychology at the top to carry out the actions implied in your theory. -
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/16/tennessee.email/index.html
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but support corporate tax cuts. Really, can any of you wingnuts explain this comprehensively?
On the one hand, bailouts are massive loans (some of which are already repaid) or capital in exchange for temporary ownership, with such stake to be sold off when feasible, thus returning the capital to the taxpayers.
Tax cuts are just a backdoor way of GIVING tax revenue back to the corporations.
If you don't want to give your tax dollars to corporations, why would you want to give them a fucking tax cut? At least with the bailouts our money will more than likely be returned, with interest.
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Love the liberal logic on here...the answer always seems to be "because" followed by some hateful remark. Then they go on to remark how the republicans/Palin are so full of hate and intolerance. Love it! Letterman made a bad joke on primetime. I personally didn't think it was the end of the world, but it was in bad taste no matter how he tries to mask the intent/perception. He clearly despises Palin and would have been better off giving a sincere apology to her as soon as it made the headlines. That way he could have come out on top of it all and it wouldn't have been a big deal. She would have been the lesser person for making it a big deal. Instead he decided to ride the storm probably for ratings, but it seems to have backfired. I loved me some Letterman in the 80's and early 90's but he just isn't that funny anymore. He just seems like a cranky old man who brings politics to his show instead of comedy. Political jokes sometimes are funny, sometimes are not. When someone like Letterman though, who clearly does not like Palin, makes a joke in bad taste about a family member, the comedy is overlooked because of his personal feelings. You can't villify someone and then joke about them and say it was just comedy and not meant to be perceived the way it was even if it was just an innocent joke gone bad. I do feel bad for the guy though, because all it takes is one bad joke and your world can come crumbling down.
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Tax cuts enable a company to have less overhead costs. If a small company is paying $50,000 in taxes a year and tax cuts take it down to $30k a year, that frees up $20k to invest in the company further, hire more employees, etc. It also allows the owner to continue with the lifestyle they currently have and not have to lay off employees in order to keep that lifestyle. You take away tax incentives or increase taxes and owners have to lay off people, reduce services, etc. The tax cuts are not a method of making a bad business become good magically. It is a way of ensuring that the business continues to thrive and generate overall revenue to be reaped by the owner, it's employees and ultimately the community. Giving money to a failing business that otherwise would go out of business in a regular market economy delays the inevitiable and then makes yet another entity indebt when it still fails (that's us, the tax payer). Bailout funds are nothing more than borrowed money and crossed fingers. It's not like you are giving a new company $15k to buy all the equipment needed to get things started. Instead you are giving large corporations millions in the hope that will reverse bad business choices. If a huge corporation with millions went to the shitter, pumping a few million/billion into it isn't going to make everything better. It's not like they were robbed overnight and the bailout funds are just a quick loan until they can make back what was robbed. Businesses come and go. That is the natural order to things. Tax cuts are a way of encouraging businesses to continue to thrive and generate revenue. Bailouts are merely a band-aid. The wound may heal or it may get infected and worsen.
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William Ayers bombed the Pentagon, bombed NYC's police HQ, and launched Obama's career in his living room. Get a clue.
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My faith in supply side economics is based on more than the last 9 months, but much of what has happened has to do with government interference in the market place, implicit guarantees by GSEs (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac) that socialize risk, and operate without serious oversite (mostly thanks to Democrats, but we don't have to go there right now). And so on. More to it than that, but . . . it doesn't matter. Supply side is on the outs, and may be for a while.As far as opposing bail outs but supporting tax cuts, there is an important distinction. Tax cuts allow corporations to keep more of the money they make by successfully turning a profit, hopefully by sellings goods and service people want and need in a manner that allows them to profit thereby. Corporate bailouts involve giving floundering companies with piss-poor management money to make up for the fact they can't make money selling whatever they are peddling to the general public, or cannot charge enough for their products to make money because they aren't worth that much to the general public, or to reward them from having pilfered from and prostituted their corporation, and the stakeholders in it, to the point of bankruptcy. Bailouts and tax cuts are not remotely the same thing. In fact, most of the companies getting bailout money would not benefit from a tax cut, because they've been busy running their companies into the ground. But, c'est la vie. We're trying the bailout system, and maybe it'll be more like you think it is, and less like I think it will be.And, if there isn't much different between bailouts and tax cuts, why not just give all the companies big fat tax cuts? Or suspend the capital gains tax for a few years, to give them the most flexibility for their money?
I'm not so sure the bailout money will be returned with interest. There isn't much sign of that. And, who gets the interest? You? Me? I'm kind of skeptical of that, too. But, maybe it will be as you say. Then, I'm just a crank. No harm, no foul. -
I already pointed that out. But, technically, he is friends with a "former" domestic terrorist. Which isn't the same thing, technically.
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Letterman should've pulled a Soopy Sales by telling Les Moonves to go get fucked, and walking off the show. There was a time he where he wouldn't have caved in like this. I guess years of ratings rape from Rocky Dennis softens a guy.
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I should also say, tax cuts would target all corporations, which is rather egalitarian, when you think about it, instead of just targeting certain corporations with powerful lobbyists or donor connections who are, apparently, "too big to fail". Tax cut for corporations would allow those companies to keep more of the money they earn, which they could spend, invest, or set back against economic downturns so, in the future, they wouldn't need to come hat in hand and sign over their souls to the federal government in order to stay in business. Also an issue.
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Ala Natalie Maines. Just see if he doesn't.
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But unlike the last Administration which left us in the mess, Democrats actually GROW the economy so that small business wouldn't just make $50,000, but see higher profits.Part of growing the economy is building a strong economic base at home. Far too many of the companies that received huge tax cuts moved plants, factories, and call centers off shore causing gargantuan reductions in the American based labor force.IMHO bail outs for jobs at home are a much better deal than huge corporate tax cuts in exchange for offshore jobs.
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hasnt anyone seen blazing saddles???
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"domestic terrorists". One of the conservative lies and conspiracies like the myth that Obama does not have a U.S. birth certificate. Besides neither Bill Ayers or the Weathermen ever killed anyone unlike abortion activists who shoot doctors.
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Holy shit, you have got to be kidding me. They're not terrorists, you fucking morons, or else they wouldn't be freed.
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The only town in America not filled with blubbering wimps.
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Followed by a intercontinental crotch rocket straight into your stupid fucking face. You'll take it. You'll love it! Yeahh! Pull down my WORLDWIDE PANTS, and give me a blumpkin!
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Well personally I would have told her to take her middle finger, wipe the still dripping ass of a bandicoot with explosive diarrhea, and use it for lipstick.
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is sensible. Thank you for stating your beliefs, backing them up with sensible arguments, and offering them with humility. I would certainly vote for Obama over Palin for a whole host of reasons, but am very grateful for your grown up tone.
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Seriously, he makes a joke about raping a 14 year old girl? And you on the left are OK with that? How high of a pile of shit are you willing to slide between your lips, tablespoon by tablespoon, gulping it down your throat, for one of your "heroes"? Grow some balls and get some integrity. I'm on the left too, I think Palin would have been a disaster as a vice president, but joking about her underage daughter getting molested? And you defend it? Are you guys really that pathetic? Here's the next tablespoon of warm brown shit. Open your mouths, tell us how much you enjoy it.
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I love war!
I killed a baby today!
ha!
fuck you mom!
I simulated my sister!
I raped my brother!
I took the farm!
I don't take drugs!
I simulated the doctor!
That's hard to do!
I stuck my whole fist in!
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Stop playing with your lips when you read and maybe you can understand. I will type slowly though. B-R-I-S-T-O-L the T-E-E-N-A-G-E S-l-U-T the one who had the out of wedlock baby while fucking her brains out all throughout her teens, is now on a C-O-U-N-T-R-Y-W-I-D-E A-B-S-T-I-N-E-N-C-E tour! Want to bet a book is coming soon? Fucking Republictard hypocrites who embraced out of wedlock teen pregnancy in a white girl, would have went ballistic if if was a black woman running. Fucking Palin knew damn well that Letterman was referring to Bristol not the 14 year old, yeah he fucked up which one was at the ballgame, he apologized for that. But Palin and the Repulictards sensing an opportunity to get some fuck swizzles like you to give them some sympathy, decided to ignore the obvious and say he was advocating rape. Letterman will have zero problems surviving this -and how much you want to bet that when palin runs in 2012, she will kiss Daves ass? You Fukken Motard
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You are a stupid turd.
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Who knew that there were more Palin defenders on this site than all of the Transformer and Phantom Menace apologists put together? How much you wanna bet that 95% of the douchebags here that claim "THE JOKE WAS ABOUT RAPING A 14 YEAR OLD" (even though you know damn well that's a filthy lie) signed up 15 minutes after this article was posted?
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I'm tired of her defenders too. She's a glory hound, former princess looking for any attention she can get. What kind of Governor promotes abstinence for teens, while her daughter is busy getting pregnant? She is ridiculous.
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If my grandmother told me she liked Sarah Palin, I'd say, "fuck you, grandma"
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100K in a bail out to say, start over with this as much as you can (or more so) and let's make this nation great again...
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Or do you really think Bill O'reilly isn't waking up with a smile on his face over the murder of Dr. George Tiller. A doctor O'reilly regularly called a child murderer and criminal on his show. But really, it's Letterman that crossed the line when he poked fun at a walking satire's 18 year old daughter fooling around with a Superstar athlete. A daughter who's already given birth to a lit'ole grand baby for Nana Palin. So, was the conception of Sarah Palin's grand child literally statutory rape since she fornicated at sixteen and birthed it at seventeen? Sure the Father was under-aged too, but still, I don't know, if anyone can answer that it will be much appreciated.
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Jun 16, 2009 7:37:58 PM CDT
I didn't see Bill O'reilly show sympathy after Tiller murder
by kirttrik
What's up with that?
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or Rush Limbaugh, or you know your a red neck when guy. Actually, I like the you know when your a redneck guy, I also will take Larry the Cable guy. You can have the rest so, um, fuck you.
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Other wise your preaching propaganda made up as a last ditched campaign tactic left over from the last major election cycle.
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I think he was way out of line for calling the son in Iraq a retard. Thats not only a spit in the face to the Palin family but to a lot of soldiers and their families as well. Comedy is rarely funny without being somewhat dangerous but that doesn't give you license to insult people so much cruelty. As for the Letterman joke, I kind of thought the "slutty flight attendant" was out of line because it seemed unmotivated. I don't recall Palin doing anything in the last month or so warranting a comment like that. That one was just plain mean if you ask me. Then again, Hilary Clinton hasn't ever had it easy herself. She's had to live with the nickname "Her Royal Thighness" for a while now. Pretty petty if you ask me. Theres something about women in politics that brings out the misogynist in people I guess.
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because it's bullshit. Which is fine, just don't be so preachy and condescending about it.
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Ah fuck it?
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Because her father is Janet Reno.
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Whoa! I presume you're a liberal. You mean you don't think that a wise African-American male with the richness of his experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life?menstrual_blitz is clearly a racist!
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Jun 16, 2009 7:56:24 PM CDT
Nice Gaius, re: "somewhere out there Glenn Beck is crying"
by immortal_fish
And somewhere out there, Rev. Wright is maligning Jews with the anti-semi broad brush.
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Mormon Romney. BAAD!! Mormon Reid. GOOOD!!
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or at least a bit prejudice.
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Jun 16, 2009 8:02:13 PM CDT
So, was the conception of S.Palin's GrandKid Statutory rape?
by kirttrik
I really want to know? I know they were both under-age but I think the parents still could of charged the father with rape if they wanted to. I think I saw it on LAW & ORDER once. Hippies and Hard Hats alike watch that show.
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"Too easily swayed by others with more experience."If only Lord Barack, most merciful, were so easily swayed by others with more experience. Which would be about, well, everyone.The only thing the man has ever run was 1) for election and 2) his mouth.
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"One he's following about, oh, 90% to the letter."Really? The other 10% must be that whole 'transparency' thang.
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HE SAID SORRY? ZOMG, LET'S START A REVALOOOOSHUN!!!!!!!1111 Big deal, I'm sure Letterman ain't losing sleep over it. Why should anyone else?
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Jun 16, 2009 8:08:46 PM CDT
AyatollahSexyBack, re: "ANOTHER GOP RACIST ATTACK ON OBAMA"
by immortal_fish
That link is CNN. Like I'm going to believe any of that propaganda bullshit.NOTE: This is how your side reacts whenever I post links to "unbiased sources" like the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post. So suck it.
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It's Chicago politics. You're going to work with people you more than likely detest. The same rules apply to Hollywood. You'll have your share of close friends but don't be surprised if you have to have drinks with an asshole like Jon Peters to get your movie made.
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For fueling the fires of a radical anti-abortionist who shot him dead in his own Church.
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Quote: "And somewhere out there, Rev. Wright is maligning Jews with the anti-semi broad brush."Sure. He and Beck will both burn in Hell for what they've done.HEEELLL!!!
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"I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ONE CAN OPPOSE BAILOUTS but support corporate tax cuts."For the same reason why your side thinks you can spend your way out of a depression.Oh, wait! No. It's not for the same reason at all.See that? I just pulled a BSB. I offered nothing but snarky spin and word play.
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Just remember, Lord Barack Obama on high, be he the most merciful, NEVER ONCE heeded words of that man even after two decades of conditioning. There is no concern here. These are not the anti-semi's you're looking for.
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Since when do people have to apologize for obvious jokes? This is ridiculous. No one in their right mind thought Dave was talking about the younger daughter. They (the Palins) didn't either. She was just looking for a way to make a stink. The only reason I can think of for Dave to be apologizing like this is that they must be getting threats against his son Harry. Those morons protesting outside the theater make absolutely no sense and I can't believe that news outlets are covering this shit. People who enjoy freedom of speech should be frightened when someone as big as Dave has to apologize for something so ridiculous. Let's all go to Russia and throw shit at her house.
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I'm being silly, forget this. We're all a bunch of over-aged third graders flinging are own poo at each other. I'm not judging it, it's fun, but simply put, not fun enough for me to continue.
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all of you.
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Jun 16, 2009 8:19:08 PM CDT
kevinwillis.net, re: "Obama Friends with a Former Terrorist"
by immortal_fish
If it was the guy that killed Tiller, then the murder would have been perfectly acceptable.Live by the sword, die by... the...See that? I almost did another BSB style switcheroo post!
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You mean like...King George? Or Lord Marshall Cheney of the Necromonger Legions?
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Jun 16, 2009 8:21:47 PM CDT
kirttrik, re: "Show my proof that Obama is friends w/ Ayers
by immortal_fish
I'd rather show you where the Kool Aid is, but I can see you've already had enough.I gotta change my handle to BringingFishyBack.
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Jun 16, 2009 8:23:53 PM CDT
kirttrik, re: "I think the majority of people are racist
by immortal_fish
"or at least a bit prejudice."And some of them are elevated to the seat of Atty General and possibly the Supreme Court.
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No real trolls here to slay
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The only thing god has in common with Obama -- and, yeah, it couldn't POSSIBLY bee the other way around -- is that god doesn't have a birth certificate either.You REALLY think Cheney did worse to shred the constitution over 8-years than Obombus has done in the last 100 days? *Really*?
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Or on drugs.
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So fuck you Tranny Apologist. I was fucking joke man. I now cartoon movies based on action figures are serious business to you but to the average non cave-dwelling knuckl-edragger it's going to be funny as shit.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/08/msnbc-reporter-begrudging_n_85706.html
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Just wanted to put that out there.
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Sasha or Malia?
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How goes it?Nah, not really fishing for trolls. But it looks like there might be a few over in the INDY TB...
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Yeah, that God line...how much does Rush charge people for repeating that? I sense a new bumper sticker in your future!As for Cheney, yes I do. You'd be a naive card carrying idiot to not think so.
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just because shes hot and had that librarian look and had many porn movies about her doesnt make her a slut. if anything she seems to me like a hard working and dedicated politician not so much a mother since her daughter got knocked up in Alaska of all places, i mean how can her pussy get wet there before it freezes?
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Have not been any good dust ups in a while. I might mosey over to Indy TB
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Continue your march to irrelevancy, sir. March on.
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You missed a doozy with Coughlins over in one of recent Letterman TBs (I believe).
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Jun 16, 2009 8:42:50 PM CDT
My party's politician is smarter than your party's politician.
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And it's worked out that way for the last 6,000 elections.
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A call-back to that whole "Bushitler" thang. Kinda just rolls off the tongue, not unlike a fine merlot. So cute.Hitler nationalized the banks, auto industry et al, hospitals, and media.Obombus has nationalized the banks, auto industry (likely soon to be et al), wants to nationalize 'health', and a major network will soon be based WITHIN the White House.And Cheney is enshrouded within the thicker, darker shroud of eeeBUL to you?We still have Haliburton.We still have Blackwater.We still have the same amount of torture, minus three.We have lots more rendition.We no longer give a shit about where we dump our human refuse in order to save grace by shutting down a jail that seventeen recent detainees, who are now swimming on a beautiful beach in the Atlantic Ocean, have gone on record to claim that their years in detention were better than their years back at home, even if it pisses off a long-time ally that we've already embarrassed ourselves over once already for having gave them tacky ::gasps for air:: gifts.Yeah, Cheney is the bad guy. But people like you need people like him, Gaius. So, say goodnight to the bad guy!
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And I find that sadly obvious checklist of yours to be childish and trite. Sorry, but I don't buy your derision. It reads like you're secretly proud of the clusterfuck given to Obama.
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Jun 16, 2009 8:59:07 PM CDT
Stock market DOWN again -- how's THAT working for ya?
by starship captain
At the end of last week, the Dems cheered because the stock market was up something like 15 or so points, yet yesterday it plummeted over 200 points... then it dropped over another 100 points today... all while Obama continues to pitch his plan for universal health care, which is now estimated to cost taxpayers yet another TRILLION dollars just to start it up. So needless to say, Wall Street and others certainly aren't sold on what he's saying. Not to mention, where is the money going to come from? That's right: yet again the Left feels it can hit up and tax the so-called "rich" again. So now we're talking about increased taxes, which is certainly a joke in an economic downturn as severe as this.Not to mention, you're talking about sticking a $1 TRILLION health care bill on top of spending nearly $2 TRILLION in stimulus funds, which on itself was already going to raise our debt levels to such a staggering level that it will now leave our kids with a $1 TRILLION deficit per year for the next 10 years, thus putting us nearly $13 TRILLION in the hole. Sorry, but there's not enough "rich people" to tax and cover that kind of debt load.Since the start of the year, like clockwork, weekly unemployment figures continue to roll in at an amazing rate of over 600,000 jobs shed per week. But I loved that last month the Obama White House crowed they "saved" 30,000 jobs in the midst of that. Somehow the White House pulled an Optimus Prime and transformed its own language from "creating" jobs to "saving" jobs instead. And topping it off, now there are meetings overseas to discuss dumping the American dollar in favor of a new universal world currency.Sorry, but as an Independent I voted for Obama thinking he could be a breath of fresh air, but if things don't DRASTICALLY turn around in the next 6 or so months, people won't care how charming Obama is. You guys on the Left can bitch all you want about Palin -- have fun getting it out of your system since she's an easy target for you -- but, in the end, no matter how whipped up you get about Palin, there's just no way that Republicans or Independent candidates are not going to start slaughtering the Democrats in the 2010 midterm elections. People vote their bank account, and right now there's still NO sign of things getting any better under Obama, who economically is quickly becoming Jimmy Carter Part 2.
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no foundation to base their campaigns on. free abortions cant be one of them
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stop making "thing" "thang". And Obombus is stupid, too. Just make your arguments please.
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That was pretty fucked up....and the funny died after the 3rd retard joke. Stewart was funny, Letterman was funny.. but I hope this other guy has a drooling baby with down syndrome and a conjoined twin coming out of its back. THAT would be fuckin HILARIOUS!!!
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being the most underrated president ever. he was a good president and most of all a good man. the one before him sucked on fatty titties while rubbing his dick on her dress and the one after him is trying his best not to pick up the soap. BUSH was a one time gift to us.
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The Obama admin has always used the phrase "save or create" when talking about the effects of the stimulus on jobs. It has always been clear that the bulk of the impact wouldn'y even begin until this summer, and there is wide spread consensus among economists of all political persuasions (though none of them are in Congress or host major media programs) that if Bush, Obama, and both Congresses hadn't stimulated the economy in a big way, including bailing out the banks, then we might be in another depression right now. I'm an indy who voted for Obama, too, and I am concerned about the debt as well, but it's not time to hit the panic button just yet.
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CAN remember Bush well- that would mean Iraq's turned out well. But "most of all a good man"? Being a well-meaning guy who sticks to his guns is fine if you're life is about working 9-5 supporting a family. I want some other qualities in a president, and the world demands a flexibility of thought in order to be an effective pragmatist.
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Bush - not a smart guy, policies were generally terrible, but had balls in the face of adversity, determined in what he believed in.
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Here I thought that AICN was a festering bastion of greasy, Hollywood-weaned acolytes of 1960s Baby Boomer Marxist academia (like Obama), come to find there are actually intelligent persons kicking ass and taking names. (And getting the typical leftist response of "you're stupid / you're immoral / @!#$ %^&!@ $*!&" ad infinitum ad nauseam.)
Oh, to the couple of jokers here who fell back on the left's tired "racist white men" mantra, no, we minority and/or female conservatives are LEGION. Recent Gallup poll, 40% of America is right wing, baby. (Just 20-something percent are libs, the rest are "independents," i.e. intellectual blank slates afraid to take a stand on most issues.) http://www.last.fm/user/MiloDC -
Have you ever realized the most decisive men in history are looked upon favorably? Washington, Lincoln, Churchill are some who basically became famous BECAUSE of war.
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Jun 16, 2009 10:01:55 PM CDT
statutory rape and regular rape are entirely different things
by bmacsmith
its pretty fucked up that they are both called rape. and im not talking about pedophilia, im talking about banging a hot 17 year old. in one state its considered rape and you are fucked for life, and in the next its completely legal and you can live a normal life. FUCKED up.
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that makes my head hurt and baby Jesus cry.
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i think 17 year olds are abit young for sex but 18 year olds should be ready for all kinds of kinky sex! yay! just kidding, as a father of no children i object to the sexualization of minors
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how the fuck do you do that? how are there no consequences for something like that? when has that ever happened in history? "sorry we bombed the shit out of your country for no reason, my bad. we'll build you some roads. we cool?"im a conservative btw, so dont fucking bother calling me a crazed liberal. i voted for the worthless cocksucker the first time. now i think the asshole should be put in prison.
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im not saying its a good thing, but its hardly the same as violent, forced rape. i know a guy that had sex with a 17 or 16 year old, cant remember, and now they are married with kids. It used to be commonplace and totally accepted, now its illegal and you go on the sexual predators list for life. And whats worse is the law differs from state to state. and no, i've never had sex with a minor, not since i was minor anyway. heheh.
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BUSH used iraq as a prototype, an experiment to see if one can easily change the middle east, he also planned for a domino effect to take place, and in some ways it did, if you havent noticied the Middle East is more free and democratic than before iraq got invaded. the guy is fuckin brilliant.
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i know he didnt really accidentally do it. the plan was to put huge military bases in the heart of oil country. it will maybe be to our advantage eventually, but its hardly noble. i dont really see how its more free and democratic, and the US backed governments in Iraq and Afghanistan fall the day after we leave. you'll have to explain that one to me.
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what they do they do to themselves. they have a chance now to be better people and they better take it. I dont think Bush planned to leave, and why would he, troops are not really needed anywhere else as all the problems seem to arise from that region and as for bin laden, he is nothing but an ideology and the heart of that is in the Arab world.
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re 16/17 year old, as Ali G used to say "If there is grass on the pitch then lets play".
Yeah if I ever have a daughter, definetely buying a shotgun.
In some ways daughters are punishment to men, as men know what other men are thinking, i.e. if you friend says to you about your 14/15 year old daughter, "she sure is growing up fast", he is thinking one thing and one thing only.
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Jun 16, 2009 11:38:54 PM CDT
Diox - note sure I have seen you this serious before
by miyamoto_musashi
Harry, you do realise you are posting as Dioxholster don't you ?
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A must see experience!
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Jun 16, 2009 11:56:27 PM CDT
I can't wait until we can just arrest all the conservatives...
by invincible88
and put them in camps. It will be good for the economy and there would be a lot less whining.
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So the poor can just chill and play the new Ghostbusters game.
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Letterman was alluding to Bristol Palin in the joke. There is no rape, pedophillia or perversion. Fucking get over your selves. Life is too fucking short.
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...to pretend to be a victim. Remember "lipstick on a pig"? Did anyone really believe that the sentence was referring to Palin? But there she was on TV, whining that Obama called her a pig. Just like she pretends that Letterman was talking about her 14 year old daughter, instead of the joke's real target, the 18 year old daughter who is an unmarried mother. If this is the best ammunition the right-wing have left, the Dems will be in power for the next 20 years.
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do you think she uses her gender to play victim to these imagained slights against her? Weak, frightened, woman being attacked by big powerful men. Her only defense? Your vote.
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For the last time: David was not making a joke about the 14 yr old. I realize that's the talking points from Limbugh and O'Reilly et al, but it's simply not the truth. I realize I"m wasting my time but it was the older kid not the younger one.
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sit through another Republican Presidency. After 4 years of BO I think it's only fair...
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If it were up to them Dave would have had to research and file the proper papers to make a joke at the expense of the bitch's 18 yo daughter. Unfortunately it would have been a funnier joke if he HAD been referring to the 14 yo.
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My goodness, this can only happen in the US of A.Calm the fuck down and move along people.
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Jun 17, 2009 2:55:31 AM CDT
Republicans don't get jokes, well unless they are racist one's t
by spectrebeeyatch
Palin needs to have her face melted off with a bunch of Nazi's. Lost Arc style. Fact.
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A troll cunt all the way.
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Thanks for that. Man what a great flick that was. Pfeiffer was smoking with her long legs and perky tits WOW ripe for the sucking. Pacino one lucky motherfucker "fucking, sucking" is RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
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We have fucking multi region dvd players in england, you fucking goof, so they are far from useless. 27 free dvd's? Cool! What a nice man this Obama chap is.
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i love deluded wingnuts oh, another one of you family values types is going down for the count senator john ensign, a prez hopeful was banging one of his assistants....good job and you are right, not all conservatives are racist, white males...plenty of you fucks are racist white females
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and the repukes are gonna beat the dems by doing what? they have no new ideas, other than cutting taxes they cannot run on decreasing spending, for the last time they were in power, they spent more than the dems ever did they are currently fighting obama's health care plan by saying that it is unfair to private insurers...funny, they use the exact opposite tact when it comes to school voutures people do vote with their pocket books...that is true, but unless the repukes come up with a contructive plan, they are not taking seats in the senate or the congress anytime soon oh, and i dont think obama can clean up the mess the bush crime family left us with anytime soon...unless he and the dem congress finally get real balls, and create wpa2...that, and sending all wingnuts to the fema concentration camps
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yeah, people who live life with their eyes open and witness intense pettiness, incoherence, and brazen hypocrisy from both political parties, and hold that different problems require different strategies to solve (ie, the solution isn't ALWAYS "Less Government!" or "More Taxes on the Rich!"), and decide to identify themselves as "independent" are the dumb ones. Right. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Always good for a laugh.
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Thunderballs, AnimalStructure, RowdyRoddyStriper and other banned aliases.
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First you said the Republicans have no new ideas other than cutting taxes. Then you turned right around and agreed that people DO vote their pocket books.So just for the record: you actually think the Democrats are going to stay in power by RAISING everyone's taxes (in the midst of a major recession, no less) and INCREASING the deficit to such an all-time high that it literally threatens swell unemployment, create sky high inflation, and bankrupt our nation while destroying our currency? Great plan you have there for reelection in 2010 and 2012. I'm sure the people will love it!
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... of course, is anyone who has the audacity to proclaim one political party is morally, ethically or intellectually superior to the other. Really? Obama just bailed out AIG and "purchased" GM with OUR FUCKING MONEY. Granted, after eight years of Bush, the next guy in line could have been sticking Krazy Straws into newborn babies' fontenelles and drinking their goddamn brain matter and it still probably wouldn't seem that bad, but c'mon. WHOEVER is in office is likely to screw over the constituency, it's just that one guy can do it while stroking off the NASCAR fans and the other guy can do it while stroking off people who shop for gluten-free Raisin Bran at Wild Oats. If you're gonna sit here and stammer about GOPs versus liberals, all you've really done is drank the Kool-Aid and decided it was one side's fault. Bush Jr. could have spent the last eight years fixing the problems set up by the Clinton administration regarding reckless lending, etc., but he instead decided to play Risk with the Middle East and gives his beer buddies oil-rich third world countries to run. And aside from being the first African-American president, Obama's not gonna be remembered for much. All his administration's going to wind up doing is sticking a couple Band-Aids over a gushing wound and get the historical footnote of having presided over the 21st century's first depression. Now, the next guy (or gal) who gets in four years from now -- 'cause this cat ain't gonna be re-elected -- that person's gonna have Reagan cred.
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There are more important things than Sarah Palin misunderstanding a joke. While the world is giving crap to David Letterman, Sarah Palin is killing countless animals in Alaska in a cruel and barbaric way. How did this sadistic b*tch ever get elected to anything? Well, she certainly killed ANY small chance that McCain ever had to challenge Obama. She is the biggest hypocrite of all, with her unmarried 18 year old daughter who just had a baby preaching abstinence. Sarah Palin is a joke and she should crawl back under the rock she slithered out from under.
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Leno's commercials on NBC advertising his move to 10 pm? The ones where he listens to ideas from his creative team? They are the unfunniest commercials in the history of NBC. Feed the Children ads are funnier than the Leno adverts.
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No, I don't think "redshirt" is RowdyAnimalBalls. But keep your eyes open for "ErnestBorgNine" (sp?). Because unless I miss my guess, I'm pretty sure that's him.
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Quote: "...the rest are "independents," i.e. intellectual blank slates afraid to take a stand on most issues.)"HA! Wow, leave it to some "I only see things in black and white or right and left" fuckwit to say something as ignorant as that.Fuck you, MiloDC. And fuck your link.
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Just 15 more fat ugly loons Manhattan did not need.
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We welcome your nuanced thinking and your voice is heard, not shunned.
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Jun 17, 2009 9:46:03 AM CDT
I THINK ANIMALBRANEROWDY IS THE JEWISH WOMAN AT THE RALLY
by ayatollahsexyback
http://videos.nymag.com/video/At-the-Fire-David-Letterman-Ral
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If BSB sounded anything like you he would've shot himself in the head already, much less have the audacity to talkback. Hint.
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Yes, Hitler nationalized all those things but you may have forgotten something. IT FUCKING WORKED. Germany thrived under Hitler's authentically socialist endeavors and they became a powerhouse. It was only his racist, militaristic, and xenophobic nationalism that was responsible for the outbreak of WWII. If Germany hadn't been overtly aggressive in expanding their territory they would have been even stronger today.
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Wow! Way to go with the hate.
If Dave is going to play comedian, he should be an equal opportunity offender. I haven't heard an offensive joke about Obama's kids.
The complaints from the right mirror those of the left. Except people equate right with rich snobs who don't deserve sympathy, and the left as poor slobs that deserve our sympathy.
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Was reading over this thread, and someone claimed Obama was dumb because he gave some DVD's to a British guy and they were the wrong region? Are you for real? Who besides us nerds are going to know jack all about DVD Region codes. I'm sorry, but Republican, Democrat, whatever. That statement was borderline retarded, and I fear for anyone near that dude for any length of time.
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I agree, Kevin is among the few rational Conservatives worth discussing issues with.
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You guys defending the joke by saying it was meant for the older sister are so dumb, stupid, idiotic, and ignorant as to why people are upset at David Letterman..
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Nor was "pedophilia". These were buzz words injected by Palin and Co. to politicize the incident. It's a classic kick-up-some-dust manuever that makes a mountain out of a mole-hill.
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Seriously. She didn't pay attention to the press when she was failing at running for VP. Why all the sudden interest? I hope that douchebag kid gets a book deal (works with Neil Strauss!) and writes a messed up book about his time with the Palins and makes millions out of it.
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don't talk shit. That is the most grotesque oversimplification of Hitler's policy I've ever heard. And congratulations for giving all those turds on the right ammunition for their idiotic Fascism= left wing bullshit.
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That crowd of losers seems perfect for a Triumph visit
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Jun 17, 2009 12:10:12 PM CDT
Well thats what you get for breeding.
by elvispresleehorsleyharveyoswaldoprahwinf
Fucking Breeders. Fuck your children.
Your children are as meaningful as dusty old dog poop.
Palin is a rat-faced, vomit inducing power-whore, who felches spent loads from the asses of diseased pigs.
Hey, nothing personal it's just an observation.
Right-wingers don't seem to get comedy at all, except as tool for exploitation. Who is funny on the right? Dennis Miller? please, he hasn't even laughed himself since the twin towers fell and landed on his one good testicle. You can stomp and be offended and call me out on my grotesque words but the FACT remains true - Right wingers DO NOT UNDERSTAND COMEDY.
And the fucked up thing is they are the ones breeding out of control. - Mandatory Sterilization, Birthright Lotteries, Reproduction Licensing.
Something Must be done - Stop Breeding you fucking ignorant assholes.
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For all of your anti-left talk on this page, leftism is the intellectual default toward which independents tend to gravitate. (e.g. In typical indie wishy-washy fashion, a lot of you clowns are now Bashing Obama after having played a major role in putting the joker into the White House.) Pat yourselves on the back all you like for your analytical fealty to all sides of every issue (as if independents are the only people who evince that characteristic), but standing in the middle of the road or remaining in ideological flux as a result is a non sequitur. In some ways, I actually have greater respect for leftists than independents; leftists may be hyper-arrogant lunatics, but at least they've got convictions, and don't pride themselves on their freedom to flip-flop at will (unless they believe that doing so is necessary to get votes).
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Note that, as so-called independents grow older, they tend to realize that most issues generally CAN be broken down to dual, opposing visions, and stop with the indie b.s. See the chart at http://www.gallup.com/poll/118285/Democrats-Best-Among-Generation-Baby-Boomers.aspx .
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read the news before you comment on it. get your facts straight.
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The Independent's favorite phrase is "... but on the other hand..." One that they heard and are even now hearing uttered by Obama. He pretended to be a cipher and THAT'S why you voted for him. He fed your ego of Vulcan logic and you bought all that he was selling. Go ahead and bitch now, but you know I'm right.
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Jun 17, 2009 1:31:12 PM CDT
this disturbing trend of people constantly apologising has to st
by y282
think where this will end up if it doesn't.
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Jun 17, 2009 2:18:49 PM CDT
No one was raped. Palin offered up her daughter as a career move
by bob cryptonight
True story. She needed the press.
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but Bush couldn't even spell dvd.
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but i didnt mind. she's hot.
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Maybe Sarah wanted to scare her youngest daughter into behaving by showing her how the media can embarrass a person by keeping their name constantly in the headlines? Otherwise...I can't imagine a loving mom doing what Palin did. The good thing to do would be to get your kid's name out of the headlines--not make sure that the media got the correct name of the so-called intended child.
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Jun 17, 2009 2:25:54 PM CDT
"Obama may have given wrong dvds out but Bush couldn't even spel
by milodc
Classic far left b.s. If your guy commits a gaffe or otherwise makes a fool of himself, resort to your handy dandy crutch of a cartoonish view of the ideological opposition, and state a clear fantasy as actual fact. Bush is just about ten times the president that the inexperienced affirmative action baby Obama could ever hope to be. Man up.
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This coming from a life-long Conservative. He certainly won't make everyone happy, but that's what makes him a great leader. He doesn't pander.
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As if the Right has never, ever mocked Liberals? Shut the fuck up. It's unhinged nonsense like yours that has ruined our Party.
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Jun 17, 2009 2:32:40 PM CDT
OBAMA IS TEN TIMES THE CHRISTIAN BUSH CLAIMED TO BE
by ayatollahsexyback
Truth.
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Do you guys ever stop being angry? Seriously.. you won.. now go back to watching Star Wars for the 13,000 time and wait for your government "paycheck".
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By that he means act irrationally, irresponsibly and recklessly. Don't follow that advice, kids.
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You want bitter? Check this out: http://videos.nymag.com/video/ At-the-Fire-David-Letterman-Ra l
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He really did fuck up royally
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I know that you're full of shit.Seriously, who do you think you're fooling, MiloDC? Way to whitewash Independents with right wing dogma. It's increasingly clear that you have no idea why the conservative right has been reduced to the panic stricken globule that it is.Quote: "Bush is just about ten times the president that the inexperienced affirmative action baby Obama could ever hope to be."Good lord.
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"As if the Right has never, ever mocked Liberals? Shut the fuck up. It's unhinged nonsense like yours that has ruined our Party." We mock liberals (too much fun), but we don't confuse our mocking with the facts. Big difference. Liberals come up with a cartoon to represent a right-winger, and gradually they all come to view the cartoon as the reality, which further fuels their rage, so they create an even worse cartoon, then *that* becomes their reality, etc. etc., eventually driving them insane (which is about where we are now). As for the ruin of the party (by which I assume you mean Republicans), Reagan was a smashing success and John McCain came to nil. Watered-down conservatism, Colin Powell-esque noncommittal-ness, and trying to hold hands with foaming-at-the-mouth lefties doesn't get the job done, son. Fight hard or go home.
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Independents, those who choose to not register with either or any party, tend to vote Republican. They broke for Obama this time, but that was an exception, not a rule. http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1229/political-values-core-attitudes-trends-2009
And I, though an independent, am still very much in Camp Obama. You are clearly an unsuitable conversation partner, as you appear to be presumptuous, uninformed, and a bit of a douche. Go ahead, respect raging leftists and rightists more than sensible moderates like Jim Webb, Tom Kaine, and Lindsay Graham. Your opinion means very, very little. Though I wish the best of luck in all your future endeavors. -
Unfortunately, Republican politicians and personalities don't need to be caricaturized. Don't even ask me to list them all, I don't have the time.
They do a fine job of self-mockery and burying Conservative ideals under a mountain of radical horseshittery. And they do it with the misguided support of lemmings like you.
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"Way to whitewash Independents with right wing dogma. It's increasingly clear that you have no idea why the conservative right has been reduced to the panic stricken globule that it is." If anyone on the right is panicking, it's (a) the neocons and blue bloods, who have been dragged by the far left into self-deprecation and a weird need for approval from leftists (which comes only via abdication of principle), and (b) those of us real conservatives who realize just how dangerous Obama is for America. And thumbs up on "Good lord," that's always a KILLER argument. Wish I'd thought of that, could have saved myself a bunch of typing.
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I frankly think it's pretty contrived. The guy came into office under dire and highly unusual circumstances, and people act like he created the situation. Even if he didn't deal with it correctly, the way was not clear, with a lot of differing opinions. And that's to say nothing of the wholesale misrepresentation of much of the action taken by this administration. Again, you don't have to agree with it, but it's completely useless to not have an honest discussion.
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Like staying in the closet but going out for some good old conservative, foot-tapping public bathroom sex? (heh!) Anyway, what Palin does, blowing away endangered species from a helicopter with a high-powered rifle w/ scope isn't exactly what I'd call "hunting". Even that assclown Ted Nugent, gotta at least give him props for giving the beasties a running chance, he's out there chasing them on foot with a bow and arrow. What's next for "conservative activities"? Sending in Predator Drones to remotely blast reindeer with missiles?
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LOL, your link *affirms* my claim that Indies gravitate toward the intellectual, thought-free default of leftism. "... [Independents] continue to more closely parallel the views of Democrats rather than Republicans on the most divisive core beliefs on social values, religion and national security." *Continue to*, smart guy. Also, "As has been the case in recent years, more independents 'lean' Democratic than Republican." The trend is for indies to go left, which makes total sense since anyone who wavers on issues and prides himself on being singularly fair-minded (again, a delusion) is a ripe candidate for falling into the left's seductive sophistries about equality of outcomes and centrally-run industries staffed by self-styled intellectuals with fancy accolades from other self-styled intellectuals, all of whom think that they know how to run individual people's lives better than the people themselves.
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""Good lord," that's always a KILLER argument."Well, sometimes you just have to throw your hands up in exasperation. I do that a lot whenever faced with ignorance.Nice attempt to dissect why the right is panicking. You're still cold though.
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brainwashed Republican zombies vs limpwristed welfare state Democrats... the sooner you go to war and kill each other off, the better off this country will be.
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The very recent tend is for independents to lean left, due to the fact that they fled the Republican Party. Historically they describe themselves as conservatives, are suspicious of an interventionist gov't, but are moderating their views on things like homosexuality, religious pluralism, and immigration. The Republican Party has appparently decided not to accommodate those views, so the independent have "leaned left". You seem to be arguing that the only noble way to be involved in any discussion of public policy is to drink either the red koolaid or the blue. Go ahead and believe that, it really is of no consequence.
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The Mexicans would come and take over the country. Is that what you want BMac? Or should I say .... Pablo?!!?!?!?
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As a former Republican I'm glad to share the journey Leftward with one such as you.
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I should say that I'm not really one of those 'typical' independents. I am willing to describe myself as Progressive, I'm just unwilling to describe myself as a Democrat (which is encumbered by too much pettiness and hypocrisy for my taste) or 'liberal', which connotes too much hippy-bloodline gushiness.
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banging his own daughters and palin went on SNL a week or so later. this is typical right wing phony outrage bullshit designed to make palin the "victim" yet again and keep her in the spotlight. lettermans joke never once mentioned rape. its such a fucking non event and every bit ads grassroots a controversy as the fucking teabag bullshit.
Please keep it going though. Keep her in the spotlight. keep her in front of everyone as the potential leader of the repugs. Between her, limbaugh, newt, cheney they will help destroy the repugs for the next 50 years.
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for everything he was handed by the bush administration. Has any president been handed so much shit to deal with? And as for the teabaggers? where were they when bush was spending up a storm? oh thats right its only socialism when dems do it. Its a glorious thing to watch the right fall to pieces. I mean who are the people they have fronting them at the moment...palin. steele, newt. limbaugh, cheney..haha. what a bunch!
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"The very recent tend is for independents to lean left, due to the fact that they fled the Republican Party." Um, no. Read your own link. It intimates that Independents as a group have become slightly more right-wing because conservatives have started to become disaffected with the Republican party (which has been neocon-ized into moving left), *not* that people are leaving the Republican party to become hippies. (Quote: "Owing to defections from the Republican Party, independents are more conservative on several key issues than in the past.") However, the influx of disaffected conservatives has NOT kept Independents as a whole from voting left, which they've done for years if not decades. (Which, again, is a natural inclination for anyone who actively avoids taking a side, perhaps because he views any side as extreme in proportion to the degree with which he prides himself on being noncommittal.)
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You Indie Obama-ites can talk to th' hand, now. k thx bye
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I have read the link, and I understand the issues surrounding the ideological shifting, before a backdrop of ideological shifting amongst the parties, that "independents" have undergone. The point is that the whole scene is somewhat protean, and for you to suggest that those who decide to NOT pledge allegiance to one party or another, or insist that one extreme ideology is right at all times, regardless of the problems confronting the country in an ever changing world, are somehow lazy or uncommitted to values is asinine. Which, again, is of no consequence, so go on preaching a sermon about fundamentalist ideological purity. Just be aware that reality is somewhat more complex and unpredictable than either elegant abstraction - liberal or conservative - can handle.
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be good and get well soon.
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Your patience with folks like MiloDC definitely outweighs mine today. Well said and well done.
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...didn't upset the Palin's because It was mocking the Times for being being ignorant of Alaska and eager to smear them(ie:"they're all into incest right?"), not making a direct implication which is what Dave did. This isn't hard stuff Slappy.
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Political analysis and discourse.
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you can just as easily say that lettermans joke was more at the expense of a-rod womanising ways then palins daughter. and bullshit to your reasoning anyway. they needed SNL at the time so they let it pass. if they are genuinely angry about this letterman joke then they would be angry about the SNL joke too.
I still don't know where rape came into it at all? oh thats right todd palin made it about rape. talk about projection. no matter how you look at it this is just more fake outrage. its what the right specialize in. its what hannity and o'reilly have built a career on. its a load of fucking horseshit. letterman is hardly the first person to make a joke about the palins daughter but they need to keep palin in the spotlight somehow as part of this ridiculous idea that she can run for president. I think the best thing about the right at the moment that proves they are completely void of ideas is they are still using the same tired shit that lost them the election last year. they have nothing all they have are fake grassroots teabags and fake moral outrage and fake claims of socialism. THEY HAVE NOTHING and nothing exemplifies that fact more then the fact that sarah palin could seriously become their fucking leader. -
Check out the dudes from Howard Stern acting queer kissing each other while these nutbags scream about how Letterman has a bastard kid. http://www.dlisted.com/node/32568#comments
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Jun 17, 2009 7:28:53 PM CDT
what are the chances of me getting in a Sarah/Bristol sandwich?
by bmacsmith
i wouldnt kick em out of bed. and you know they put out.
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..No...ok...just checking
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Just say "Little baby Jesus wants me, you and your daughter Bristol to bang like wild rabbits"
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Jun 17, 2009 10:10:25 PM CDT
People on the Right are idiots; people on the Left are morons.
by bob cryptonight
And anyone from either group claiming to be a "Christian" is an asshole. That sums up our troubles here in America.
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Jun 17, 2009 10:12:52 PM CDT
And there is a special home set up in Stupidville for...
by bob cryptonight
...people who argue about it on Ain't It Cool. But I love reading this shit, so keep at it...
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What sucks are people that claim to be independent while subscribing to the entire ideology of a party. We have a lot of these FAR right "independents" at my work. They believe that calling themselves independent gives them some sort of upper hand in any political discussion because read the Huffington Post but masturbate to the New York Post.
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Once again, Palin and her supporters reveal themselves to be humorless fools.
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Jun 18, 2009 6:47:10 AM CDT
MILO THINKS HIMSELF A VANGUARD OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
by bringingsexyback
not knowing that in reality, he is party of the terminal virus that is killing it.
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We knew that from his very first post.
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Jun 18, 2009 6:53:26 AM CDT
PLEASE KEEP OUR IRANIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN YOUR HEARTS
by bringingsexyback
They are the true vanguard of democracy.
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1:56 AM ET -- Gruesome details from the Tehran University attacks emerge. The Wall Street Journal continues its stellar coverage:
At the same time, Iran's Interior Ministry ordered a probe into an attack late Sunday night on Tehran University students in a dormitory reported to have left several students dead and many more injured or arrested. Students say it was carried out by Islamic militia and police. Iran's English-language Press TV said the ministry urged Tehran's governor's office to identify those involved. Iran's influential speaker of parliament, Ali Larijani, condemned the attack.
Students' Web sites reported mass resignations by Tehran University professors outraged over the incident. One medical student said he and his roommate blocked their door with furniture and hid in the closet when they heard the militia's motorcycles approaching. He heard the militia breaking down doors, and then screams of anguish as students were dragged from their beds and beaten violently.
When he came out after the militia had left, friends and classmates lay unconscious in dorm rooms and hallways, many with chest wounds from being stabbed or bloody faces from blows to their heads, he said. The staff of the hospital where the wounded students were taken, Hazrat Rasoul Hospital, was so shocked that they went on strike for two hours, standing silently outside the gate in their white medical uniforms.
1:28 AM ET -- The mourning rally. Thursday is gearing up to be a hugely significant day for the Green Uprising. Reza Aslan appeared on MSNBC's Rachel Maddow Show tonight, and laid out the importance of what is going to happen:
What's really fascinating about what's happening right now in 2009 is that it looks a lot like what was happening in 1979. And there's a very simple reason for that. The same people are in charge -- I mean, Mousavi, Rafsanjani, Khatami, Medhi Karroubi, the other reformist candidate -- these were all the original revolutionaries who brought down the Shah to begin with, so they know how to do this right.
And so what you're going to see tomorrow is something that was pulled exactly out of the playbook of 1979, which is that you have these massive mourning rallies, where you mourn the deaths of those who were martyred in the cause of freedom. And these things tend to get a little bit out of control, they often result in even more violence by the security forces and even more deaths, which then requires another mourning rally which is even larger, which then requires more violence from the government, and this just becomes an ongoing snowball that can't be stopped.
That's how the Shah was removed from power, was these mourning ceremonies. And so Mousavi very smartly calling for an official -- not a rally -- but an official day of mourning tomorrow. I think we're going to see crowds that we haven't even begun to see yet, and then follow that, on Friday, which is sort of the Muslim sabbath, the day of prayer, which is a traditionally a day of gathering anyway. This is just beginning, Rachel, this is just the beginning.
12:45 AM ET -- More cracks in the foundation. "Perhaps more perilous for authorities is the possibility that some soldiers, security officials and Revolutionary Guardsmen might refuse orders to fire on protesters, creating a dangerous rift within the security apparatuses. 'I would never do it,' said Hossein, a 23-year-old member of the security forces who said he and many of his friends at the military base where he serves supported the marchers. 'Maybe someone would, but I would never fire on any of these people myself.'"
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I believe the real swipe was at A-Rod anyway...Honestly, isn't Sarah Palin to busy banning books to be watching David Letterman???
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A bad joke, yes. But for the last time, it wasn't about Willow. Palin's initial angry reaction is warranted, but this continued assault on Dave and use of the word "rape" is not. Let it go. 1. It was a joke. 2. This is America, where we're allowed to make jokes. C. Aren't Republicans the ones who say we're all too politically correct nowadays and claim our first amendment rights of Freedom of Speech are being attacked by the left? What kind of hypocritical stance is this they're taking now?
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Jun 18, 2009 11:17:08 AM CDT
DRAG ME TO HEll is still in theaters. Forget this political bull
by nodiggity
Why are you wasting time with these bad movies when Sam Raimi's fantastic "Drag Me to Hell" is still in theaters? Join the "Drag Me To Hell" talkback!
http://tinyurl.com/ll7s4p
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Bill Maher's Free Levi campaign (ripped off from Doug Stanhope, but I digress) must have worked.
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Well, I appreciate that, though I'm sure some of that has to do with my pragmatic acknowledgement that Republicans (and conservatives, though hardly the same thing) lost the last election decidedly, and it's time to let the winners govern until there is an election to fight over.And I do think pitching a fit over the Letterman joke is just crap, and the folks are clearly trying to make it into more than it is. And I agree 100% with the whole "politically correct" hypocrisy--this was a joke, not an actual allegation. Makes me want to throw up my hands. If the Libertarians weren't so generally isolationist and anarchistic, I'd become a libertarian. And just be ready to lose every election that comes up. ;)The joke could have been about Willow (but, still really about Palin's mothering skills, lets be honest, an A-Rod to a lesser extent), and if so, the correct response is still: let it go. Don't be throwing around the word "rape" (unless you're in a talkback and you're referencing George Lucas). Etc. It's just exhausting. I'm a conservative. Conservatism is about individual liberty, love of country, freedom, free markets, etc. It's not about creating a new set of politically correct speech codes that aren't about that at all, but rather cynical and exploitive grabs for media attention that have nothing to do with obstructing the coming New Nationalism or advancing conservative political policies. Bah.
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You'd think people would have learned this by now. All they ever do is get people in trouble.
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