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AICN COMICS SHOOT THE MESSENGER: Q&@'s with Bluewater's OBAMA Comic creators & INCARNATE's Nick Simmons! + Tons of Previews!!!

@@@@ Q&@ with Bluewater’s BARACK OBAMA’s Darren G. David & Chris Ward! @@@@ Q&@ with INCARNATE’s Nick Simmons! @@@@ Spinner Rack Previews of PHILLY! IDW’s BARACK OBAMA! DARK REIGN: MR. NEGATIVE! DEAD @ 17! GROOM LAKE! OUTLAW TERRITORY! INVINCIBLE IRON MAN! @@@@


Well, AICN COMICS: SHOOT THE MESSENGER is your weekly one stop shop for comic book -EWS. What’s comic book –EWS? Well, it’s our hodge podge of everything not reviews here at AICN Comics. Sure you can find out the @$$Holes’ critical opinions of your favorite books every Wednesday at AICN Comics. But here, you’ll find special reports such as previews, interviews, special features, and occasionally news gathered here from our online brethren at Newsarama, CBR, Wizard, etc. Sure those guys are the best at reporting news as it breaks. Click on the links for the original stories. This column cuts the crap to run down all the vital information for those of you who don’t follow it as it comes in, and serves it all up with that special ingredient of @$$y goodness.

Bug chat with Darren G. Davis & Chris Ward about POLITICAL POWER: BARACK OBAMA

Hey folks, Ambush Bug here with the first of a pair of interviews this week. The folks at Bluewater Productions have been producing some pretty newsworthy comics of late. Their FEMALE FORCE line has garnered attention from mainstream press and as a follow-up, EIC Darren G. Davis responds with POLITICAL POWER: BARACK OBAMA #1, a bio comic on the president himself. Let’s see what Darren and writer Chris Ward have to say about the book.

AMBUSH BUG: Barack Obama has been in comics more than Superman himself these days. How is this comic going to differ from others out there on the shelves?

CHRIS WARD (CW): Azim Akberali's painted artwork, without a doubt. Within the next couple of years, he's going to be in demand and I'll be glad to say I worked with him before he joined the ranks of comic pros with impossible last names--like Straczynski or Sienkiewicz or Millar--that fanboys and girls rattle off like they were second nature. Actually, If you were to name reasons to pick up this book, I'd be, like, dead last. "Most popular president in years, check. Hand-painted artwork by African wunderkind, check. Writing by ex-Wizard Magazine letter columnist? Eh, two outta three ain't bad."
I hope that my writing stands out from the pack and hits the right notes, but that's up to the reader to decide. I just tried to keep away from just dropping Fact Bombs about Obama into word balloons for 23 pages--If you want to read a Wikipedia page about Obama, you can do that online. My book has Ghost Abe Lincoln. Try finding THAT online. (note: please do not actually try, or you may prove me wrong and I'll have to come up with another rejoinder).
I didn't think my sometimes offbeat style would mesh with Azim's hyper-realistic art at first, but after seeing some of the pages I realized it makes it a much more entertaining piece of work. Here's a strange comparison: Christopher Walken is hilarious because he looks like the world's most humorless man, and is funnier because it’s unexpected and subversive. This is why Jim Carrey, a comedian trying to be a comedian, is not as funny as Christopher Walken. And this is now why I've come to realize I'd rather have beautiful, serious looking art accompany my writing than wacky cartoon art announcing to everyone what's coming down the line.
DARREN G. DAVIS (DGD): When I asked Chris to do this, we spoke about how we can make this book different from anything else that is out there. He took on the challenge and turned in a great script. Azim who has been doing covers for us asked to do this book and I was excited to see his work on sequentials.... His art is like Alex Ross which people will be amazed at the quality of the book.

BUG: Why do you think Obama, more so than any other president in history, is so popular in comics these days?

CW: Because collecting money and loose change has replaced collecting Star Wars figures as the nation's most popular hobby. Lincoln had a famous saying: "What's right is not always popular, but what's popular can be exploited for mad cash." I personally think it's great. Do we need a comic book about Ash saving Obama? I guess not. Does it hurt anyone? Maybe Bruce Campbell disapproves, but who knows. Can you blame someone for trying to make a buck in this economy? I can't. But the book had still better be good enough to warrant 4 bucks. Readers won't fall for the same Obama hype over and over without a good product to back it up. Especially those who lived through the nineties.
With that said, I had no intention of phoning in a script or taking a free ride on the Obama comic cash-in train. I'm from Illinois, and was lucky enough to live in Springfield during Obama's presidential announcement at the Old State Capital building, and there seemed to be enough personal ties to tell a first-hand story that was unique from the other stuff out there. Plus, you'll learn what a Horseshoe Sandwich is, and how it relates to Barack. Now my Condoleezza Rice comic, that's a different story: I'm going to ride that woman's unstoppable wave of popularity all the way to the bank.

BUG: Do you have any idea if Obama, being a fan himself of comics, has read the book?

CW: Well, even though the book doesn't come out until late August, I wouldn't put it past him to come to me in a dream, and ask me to read him the first draft. He's magical that way, our president. But I'm hoping the non-astral plane version of Obama will read the finished physical copy when it hits stands. I know Bluewater Productions heard from the Clinton camp when Hillary's book came out, requesting copies. I hope she enjoys my portrayal of her, being thrown into a padded ambulance by Nurse Abraham Lincoln (That will make sense in context).
Obama's already a comic book fan, so I can't imagine he won't be curious to check this out himself. And really, why wouldn't the most powerful man in the world be curious what an untested, large-nosed Midwesterner has to say about him in the funnybooks? I certainly can't think of a reason.
DGD: We do hope that the people that are the subjects appreciate what we are doing with these biographies. Sarah Palin signed a personal copy of the comic book for me. So I am guessing that she did not hate it, since she did that. I also took the phone call from Bill Clinton's people and almost choked when they said who it was. I was shocked that Clinton himself asked for a copy of the comic book. This is when we were sold out and I sent him my personal copy of the comic. We are still alive, so I am guessing they approved it. Sometimes I joke that our phones are tapped now, because of all the political comics we are doing.

BUG: Typically, these bio comics tend to be heavy on the dry discourse, but Bluewater's bio comics have tried their best to be entertaining as well as informative. Can you tell us how you go about choosing an angle to approach a certain bio comic to make it less snooze-inducing?

CW: I was also turned off by the idea of biographical comics at first, having been burnt once by an ill-advised purchase of the DeForest Kelley bio comic (this actually exists). But after I read Neal Bailey's Hillary Clinton comic from Bluewater, I got an idea of how it could be done without being preachy or boring as hell. Hey, if Keith Giffen can make Blue Beetle an A-list character TWICE in his career, maybe some of these politicians have aspects about them people would find fun to read about.
I get a little leeway with Obama on avoiding the snooze-factor, because most everyone is already interested in him. His "origin story," if you will, captivated everyone from the beginning, and everyone pretty much knows The Gospel of Barack by heart. So my problem was avoiding the Obama Origin Overkill. You know whenever they re-launch a comic, or make a comic movie, and tell the same goddamned origin story about the goddamned Batman you've heard for 30+ years? I wanted to avoid that feeling.
So the challenge was telling Obama's story in an original way that was true to my own style. God knows why, but Darren Davis trusted me to take some chances with this one, and it all came together nicely. The fact that he put his potentially Top Selling Book in my hands is something I'm eternally grateful for, even if I question his sanity.
DGD: Whenever I talk to a writer about these books, I mention how we have to make them exciting to keep the readers turning the pages. The narrator is usually the place where we have a little freedom to have fun. We have used everything from a "cricket" to the "writer's likeness". These books also have to be respectful and accurate, so we do a lot of research to make sure we do not get sued!

BUG: In a few of my reviews of past political comics from your company, I commented on how fair your biographies have been. When a member of a specific political party is writing the book, he tries to deal with political bias in the story rather than just write a one-sided ad for the party. Was this a conscious decision by editorial to handle these biographies, highlighting the good and the bad, in this manner?

CW: It wasn't only a conscious decision on Darren's part, but a really smart one. Especially with Obama: we could have made this book a feel-good love fest straight out of the MSNBC hopper and people probably would have bought it. But that leaves out the people who didn't vote for Obama, and this book's for them, too, if they are interested in the history of the whole thing. And the children. Let's not forget about the children. This is their book, also.
I'm pretty upfront with my feelings on Obama in this book, which is one of the reasons (besides my enormous ego) that I'm in the book as a narrator. When there's an opinion instead of a fact, you can attach it to my face instead of a disembodied, all-seeing/all-knowing narrator. And we've got a sources cited page in the back, which is sexier than a Frank Cho pin-up! So, on this book, I finally put my journalism degree to work--those muscles had long since atrophied at Wizard the very first time I ranked the 50 Hottest Sexy Women in Comic Book Movies Of All Time For The Month of July. For the record, it's Helen Slater.
DGD: We have to be unbiased in all of these. Even down to the choices of the subjects. We do not want people to know who Bluewater supports. We try to keep everything on an even playing field.

BUG: I've been seeing the name Bluewater coming up a lot on CNN, BET, FOX News, and other news and talk shows. Being a relatively new company, how has it been coping with all of this media attention in regards to your political comics?

DGD: I have been in comics for the last 10 years and before that I worked in the entertainment industry. So the press has always been a big part of what I do. I have always understood the media. The first comic I did was the "10th Muse" and we had Rena Mero aka Sable from the WWE, we hired a PR firm to get us on "Entertainment Tonight", which led to the comic being #6 on the Diamond charts. But the difference is the main focus is on us and being on the other side is a little harder than I thought. Having a news van show up at your doorsteps at 8am unannounced is a little weird, especially when you wake up at 9am. Most of the press has been really positive while making for a good scrapbook. How many times can a person say they were interviewed by FOX NEWS's Greta Van Susteren. That was my 1st interview and I choked when she asked me something I was not ready for. People that know me know that I choked, but I do not think it was that obvious. I look back at the tape and laugh. Also how many times in my life can I say I was quoted in Dog's Life" magazine (for the Bo Obama comic). I do have two favorites, when Larry King help up the comic with Patty Davis and she slammed the book without knowing anything about it, then to turn around and show off her book with Michelle Obama on the cover. Larry King did nothing either. But I have a picture on my wall of him holding up the comic book. Also on "Live with Regis and Kelly", they talked about the comic and Regis asked Kelly if she would want to be one of the subjects and she gave a look at the camera and said yes. The press is not going to last forever, so we are really enjoying the time we have doing these things.

BUG: With all of this media attention going towards your political comics, are you planning on shifting more attention editorially towards them and pulling back on your other comic lines?

DGD: We are still going to do our core books. I never thought my comic career would turn into just a biography company so I am making sure that we are being smart about what the Bluewater brand means. We just announced "Logan's Run" which is getting a lot of attention. The Shatner books will be an ongoing series as well as VINCENT PRICE PRESENTS and LEGEND OF ISIS. We do have plans to launch new series, but in this economy we have to be careful of what we do. I am not a fan of soliciting books and having them canceled.

BUG: Hillary Clinton. Princess Diana. Barack Obama. Sarah Palin. Bo Obama. Colin Powell. Do you think you're going to ever run out of political figures to highlight in this series?

DGD: Never! Cause we can always go backwards too and do biographies based on people in the past. Also everything changes so quick in the world, that there is always some to focus on. The "Female Force" series is one about strong women in society, so we are creating comics on Oprah and Barbara Walters. The "Political Power" line will only deal with people in politics and we have Ronald Reagan, Ted Kennedy, Al Gore and George W. Bush in the pipeline.

BUG: Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. Look for POLITICAL POWER in stores in August.
And now on to our second Q&@!

Bug chats with INCARNATE’s Nick Simmons!

Ambush Bug here again with our second interview of the day. Here’s a chat with Nick Simmons, son of Gene and writer of Radical Comics’ new INCARNATE series. INCARNATE is a story of supernatural action and it’s not shy to use the red stuff either. Radical Comics is releasing this new 3 issue series by Nick Simmons on August 5th starting off with a double sized first issue. Mr. Simmons was kind enough to answer a few questions about his new book.
AMBUSH BUG (BUG): OK, I had a chance to read the first issue of INCARNATE. Spooky stuff, but not shy on the action either. Can you tell us about the book?

NICK SIMMONS (NS): INCARNATE is about a boy named Mot. Mot is a boy who cannot die. Riddle him with bullets, burn him at the stake, douse him with napalm, hang him from the gallows…still, he will walk away.
Forever haunted by a mysterious doppelganger that no one else can see, Mot has wandered the world for centuries, searching for meaning and, perhaps, an end to his endless life. He is a Revenant—an immortal, ageless creature that has existed since time imemorial. Their origins are a mystery—they have been worshipped as gods, feared as monsters, and scorned as devils. But they have always been there, living in plain sight, in the bright altars and dark corners of every ancient civilization since the beginning of humanity. There has never been a force on this earth that has been able to give them the death that Mot, secretly, seeks.
Until now.
Now, something is different. Now they are being hunted. A shadow organization known only as Sanctum has discovered a way to kill the Revenants, and is carrying out a secret genocide that spans the globe. Mot, his protégé Connor, and the rest of the Revenants now must decide how to ensure their place at the top of the food chain.
Mot finds himself smack in the middle of an escalating war between mortals and immortals, neither of which he identifies with. Will he choose a side? Or will he be labeled a traitor, and be hunted down not only by humans, but by creatures as invulnerable and merciless as he is?

BUG: Would you classify this book as straight-up horror, supernatural adventure, or what? Loved the RPG to the face bit, by the way…

NS: Thanks, it just hit me one night. Badoom chish.
It's definitely not straight horror. I'd say it's action/supernatural/horror/drama.

BUG: The design of the revenants is pretty unique. Who’s idea was it to have the mouth on the hand thingee?

NS: That's just the tip of the iceberg of their transformative capabilities. None of the Revenants have transformed into their "true" shapes quite yet, that's saved for the second and third issues. That idea was mine, though. Our amazingly talented cover artist Jo Chen based that off of a series of sketches I sent her.

BUG: The art seems to be heavily influenced by manga. Was this your intention from the beginning or was that an aspect that came about later?

NS: I've always been influenced by manga, but it’s not a conscious choice, like "Ok I'm going to try to draw manga now." I simply have been reading manga since I was young, and it's the style I naturally draw in. I just find it so much more interesting than most American comic styles, it's all very well drawn but it lacks individual STYLE sometimes. That's the only reason I claim to have the chops to put out a comic--I may not have the incredible technical skill that some of these dedicated artists have, but I have a unique style I'm trying to get across, hopefully that will make INCARNATE stand out.

BUG: Can you talk a little more about the writer/artist relationship for INCARNATE? How did you guys work together?

NS: Well, first of all, I am the writer AND the artist for INCARNATE, so I get along with myself just fine. My wonderful partner, Nam Kim, as well as everyone on his team, have been a tremendous blessing--the book would not look as good as it does without them, and I have wonderful relationship with them, for only one reason: They just seem to GET it. When I ramble on about my vision for a certain piece of architecture they're helping with, or some technical details of a gun, they just KNOW what I'm looking for, like they're inside my head. And they are very respectful, when inking my pencils, to stay true to my original lines, especially when it comes to the actual characters.

BUG: I have to mention the fact that your father is Gene Simmons, one of the founding members of KISS. What type of influences, aside from providing a crucial part of your genetic make-up, did this relationship have in creating INCARNATE?

NS: Of course you have to mention that, it's the whole reason anyone gives a crap enough to read this interview, I have no illusions about that. His role was, basically, introducing me to Barry Levine, Radical Publishing's head honcho. We didn't do it with a goal in mind--Barry was over to discuss a separate deal with dad that has since fallen through, but he saw some of my drawings, saw potential in the characters, and we decided to work together.

BUG: After this miniseries, do you have any other plans for INCARNATE or anything else at Radical?

NS: I plan to keep INCARNATE going as long as I can. I’ve never seen it as a limited series--it's a manga, and mangas are typically long-running and without foreseeable conclusion. I have an end in mind, but that's not going to come about for quite some time, certainly not within three issues. I'm going to continue making this thing, hopefully with Radical. Hell, even if nobody reads it, I'll probably still continue making it on my own as a webcomic. It's my passion and my characters are my children, I have to see it through to the end.
Consider this miniseries a brief introduction to the story, a prologue if you will.

BUG: Is there anything else you want to tell us about INCARNATE?

NS: It will start shallow, with blood-slinging action and cheap thrills, and it will slowly go deeper. Stick with me for the long run, even after these three issues, and I promise to deliver a satisfying series.

BUG: Last chance, why should people buy INCARNATE when it hits the stands?

NS: There's lots of tits and frontal nudity in it. Just kidding. Maybe.

BUG: Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions. Look for Nick Simmon’s INCARNATE #1 in stores August 5th and a pre-signing a week earlier at this year’s San Diego Comic Con.

Ambush Bug is Mark L. Miller, reviewer and co-editor of AICN Comics for over eight years. Check out his short comic book fiction here and here published in MUSCLES & FIGHTS 3 and MUSCLES & FRIGHTS on his ComicSpace page. Bug was interviewed here and here at Cream City Comics. Look for more comics from Bug in 2009 from Bluewater Productions, including the just-announced sequel to THE TINGLER for their VINCENT PRICE PRESENTS series available in July’s previews and on the shelves September 30th.

Hey folks, Bug back again with another whirl on the Spinner Rack to the Future. This week we start off with another preview from our very own @$$Hole reviewer Ryan McLelland called PHILLY. Show Ryan some love and check out the preview, then seek out his book.

PHILLY Vol. 2 #1 Writer: Ryan McLelland Art: Jim Hanna (pencils), Nichx (inks/colors) Publisher: Evolution Studios Release Date: Available now!

Ryan’s comedy adventure book PHILLY Vol. 2 #1 is out now, and I’ll be taking a look at it in a future Indie Jones section of our regular column.

PRESIDENTIAL POWER: BARACK OBAMA #1 Writer: Jeff Mariotte Art: Tom Morgan Publisher: IDW Publishing Release Date: This Wednesday!

IDW’s bio of the president can be purchased this Wednesday!

DARK REIGN: MR. NEGATIVE #1 Writer: Fred Van Lente Art: Gianluca Gugliotta (pencils), Lanning & Justice (inks) Publisher: Marvel Comics Release Date: This Wednesday!

I always thought Mr. Negative was a pretty original villain. Can’t wait to see him in his own minseries. DARK REIGN: MR. NEGATIVE #1 is in stores Wednesday!

DEAD @17: AFTERBIRTH #1 Writer/artist: Josh Howard Publisher: Image Comics Release Date: This Wednesday!

DEAD @ 17: AFTERBIRTH #1 drops on Wednesday!

GROOM LAKE #3 Writer: Chris Ryall Art: Ben Templesmith Publisher: IDW Publishing Release Date: This Wednesday!

Check out this quirky outer space book on Wednesday!


This looks impressive. I’m definitely checking out this book when it hits the stands on Wednesday!

INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #14 Writer: Matt Fraction Art: Salvador Larroca Publisher: Marvel Comics Release Date: This Wednesday!

Check out INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #14 this Wednesday!

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  • June 15, 2009, 8:06 a.m. CST


    by ironic_name

  • June 15, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Fuck the comic

    by chuffsterUK

    When's the `Obamha `movie out??

  • June 15, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    wolverine should appear in the obama comic

    by ironic_name

  • June 15, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    anyone check out flash rebirth #3?

    by nerfherder111

    because according to the cover, it's supposed to be filled with some superb moments. <br> seriously though, it's been hard to love that book as much as i would want to.

  • June 15, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    How good is Invincible Iron Man?

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    Is the plotting/dialogue as tight as Brubaker's or Vaughan's? Because that preview seems mighty interesting.

  • June 15, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST


    by Kessler

  • June 15, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST


    by Kessler

    People will actually buy these Obama/political books? Creepy...

  • June 15, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    In Retrospect...

    by Kessler

    Maybe they should give the Obama book away free to people who don't own any comic books. Then, based upon the number of comic books you already own, they could set the price of purchase. If you own less that 100 comics, the book is only $.25. If you own more than 1,000 comics, the book is $5. Own more comics? Pay even more. We'll see how well that goes over...

  • June 15, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Your Column

    by rodnunley

    Hey guys. Love the column this week. Good stuff as always. Check out our equally nerdy podcast, Geek Bombast, at our website: We talk about some of the same stuff ...

  • June 15, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Iron Man looks interesting

    by Snookeroo

    Too bad the cover is a render-fest instead of giving us a clue about what's inside.<br><br>The rest of this line-up looks pretty much same-same: zombie comic - check, T & A comic - check, hayseeds invaded by aliens comic - check, uber-violent movie-wanna-be superhero comic - check, political comic du jour - check.

  • June 15, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Truth, justice and the American way is Obama's kryptonite

    by FeralAngel

    Along with honesty, integrity, wisdom (the guy hasn't done a single SMART thing since he took office), class (he snubs and insults our allies while bowing to Muslim princes, the tool), and courage (took him 17 meetings to decide to let the military take out a bunch of ragtag pirates. Can't be too careful, don't you know). Somehow, it figures that guys who create fictional icons out of lines on paper would worship a real-life one with about as much depth. What's next, an Obama coloring book? With the word "color" taken out of the title so as not to offend any racial sensibilities?

  • June 15, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST


    by ME_M

    If you are talking about Muslim princes, you might be thinking about the Bush administration's close ties with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

  • June 15, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Iron Man is good

    by Joenathan

    And there's a Cap #600 preview at Bleeding Cool

  • June 15, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST


    by optimous_douche

    They took another one of my quotes out of context for FLASH.

  • June 15, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Obama: better than bush in every way.

    by ironic_name

  • June 15, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    that's george bush, obama isn't better than pussy.

    by ironic_name

  • June 15, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST

    haha i know, optimous

    by nerfherder111

    chuckled when i saw the cover. it was an odd thing to quote, "full of great moments" doesn't really sound like something that would come from a glowing review.

  • June 15, 2009, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Nick Simmons is...

    by CellarDweller

    ...a dick off the old cock. A mediocre, marginally talented dude at best. Just like his dad. Gee, I wish I had a daddy that could get me into basically any business I wanted to break into. We'll see how much staying power this kid has. I've already forgotten the name of his comic-book...

  • June 15, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Here's a better title - ANTICHRIST SUPERSTAR

    by Missing Dink

  • June 15, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Subtitles_Off is one scary dude

    by FeralAngel

    **Bush holding Suadi hands and kissing Saudi ass. But what did you expect? America elects its first black President and the nut-jobd were just gonna shut up?** Bush conducted his relations with the Saudis the way a President is supposed to, with dignity and courtesy; a president bowing to a foreign ruler is not dignified, nor is it courteous, it's subservient at best. Damned un-American as well. IMO, Obama did a li'l Freudian slip there. He showed everyone where his spiritual sympathies lie. **You think abortion doctors and Holocaust museum guards are going to be the only targets?** Of who? The killer of the museum guard pretty much hated everybody, including Bill O'Reilly. The jerk who killed Tiller wasn't hired by the right to do the dirty deed, so what's with the lame blame game? **The slack-jawed all have guns. The terror has just begun. The white trash are secretly gathering right now, drinking their Bud, listening to their country and pissing about Letterman. Breeding like rabbits and home-schooling all their hate-filled spawn. God Bless US.** Man, I hope you're typing this from some kind of recreational therapy center. Preferably one with bars on the windows and no sharp objects within reach.

  • June 15, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Obama the hero

    by Tacoloft

    Remember that time when there was a comic book company who portrayed Bush as a hero when he was in office? Yeah that was crazy awesome! Holy crap this Obama glorification has got to stop... it is hard not to "draw" any hero glorification comparisons to Mussolini or Hitler. .. or Che...

  • June 15, 2009, 11:42 p.m. CST

    "holding 'Suadi' hands and kissing Saudi ass"

    by Immortal_Fish

    While in my personal opinion, I find it to be equally tarnishing, embarrassing, and just plain wrong, it is NOTHING compared to a United States president BOWING to another world leader. Why? Because no other United States president has ever done such a thing.<P>I don't give a shit about the spin and damage control, even though it says way more about Obama than it says about those who speak about Bush holding hands. I know what I saw and I know that it had never been done before by any other United States president.<P>Again, and to be CLEAR, while I PERSONALLY find it to be equally tarnishing, embarrassing, and just plain wrong does NOT mean that it is EQUALLY tarnishing, embarrassing, and just plain wrong.

  • June 16, 2009, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Obama Worship

    by Kessler

    = creepy. Seriously. I know your guy won and all, and yes, I know you did not like Presidetn Bush, but seriously, this is really getting creepy. i think its great that Americans have finally gotten to aplace where they could elect a black President. Now let's move on.. As I said...are there actually people who will buy these things?

  • June 16, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST


    by Mr.FTW

    Enough with all the political comics. They are flash in the pan at best and will be forgoten before Obama is even out of office. They are worthless and retarded. But what is more retarded is the coverage and reviews they continue to get here.

  • June 16, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    The political comics are not designed for comic geeks

    by Snookeroo

    They are designed to bring in readers outside the geek spectrum.<br>And, as a strategy, I'm not sure that's such a bad idea. The comic book publishers need to get more of the general public involved in buying comic books -- especially if the industry is to survive.<br>Not everyone is into people in spandex beating the crap out of each other (that, proudly, is reserved for comic book afficionados and World Wrestling viewers).<br><br>If comic book companies want to keeps selling floppies, they're going to have to cast a wider net - whether that's with political biographies, westerns, war stories, grade school kiddie books - you name it. The industry has to evolve, or it's simply going to fade away.<br><br>Availability is a big, big factor with limiting the sale of the genre. Mom and Pop stores are gone -- the traditional venue for comics; those were replaced with direct sales to comic book stores. Now, that is becoming iffy because of the rising price of an individual book -- as has been discussed on this very forum. The sale of comics is becoming so specialized that there are an alarming number of the target demographic that have NEVER bought a comic and an amazing number of people who don't even know what they are (because they aren't sold in the mainstream anymore).<br><br>There are, however, some good options: internet sales (which is an imperfect solution at present). Additionally, the sale of trades and graphic novels; the cover price on these make them viable for a brick and mortar stores (like Barnes and Noble).<br><br>So yeah -- while you (as a comic book hardcore reader) may not give two wits about an Obama comic, there are plenty of people in the general public for whom this might be their first real exposure to the medium. And that's not such a bad thing.

  • June 16, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    No problem with Obama comics from me

    by Immortal_Fish

    In my opinion, the comics have proven to be the kindest and balanced among all media. Yes, they've all glossed over shortcomings and focused only on the good stuff for the most part (at least the ones I've read did), it works in the medium.<P>Besides, they sell. There should be a comic monthly of Obama if it continues to sell.<P>No problem here with the free market working!

  • June 16, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Political comics

    by Mr.FTW

    You can try and justify them with the argument of broad appeal but in the long run they are not going to help the comic industry. It is just a way for different publishers to try and cash in on the here and now. The people coming and buying these books are one purchasers. Whether they comic is about Obama, Clinton, Palin, whoever the people buying them are zealots fir there political affiliations. They are not people who are going to be turned on to comics. Adults aren't really going to read them and neither will the kids they are given to. These comics are nothing more than cheap marketing ploys.<p> You say they're not for comic nerds and you are right. So explain to me why they continue to get so much coverage here in a comic nerd forum.<p> I agree there needs to be diversity in comics from kids stuff, comedy, horror, superheroes, scifi, fantasy, ect but the political comics are a complete waste of time, effort, money, review space, you name it.

  • June 16, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Mr. FTW

    by Snookeroo

    You may be right -- political comics may just be a way for publishers to cash in on a craze. I don't know -- I'm not in on the strategy meetings, so who knows?<br>However, my larger point is that these comics break out into the mainstream. They travel outside of the current comic norm -- for every comic that's purchased -- one, two, maybe three or more people are likely to pick up that issue and read it. Which means more exposure.<br>Put a comic -- any comic -- on a breakroom table. I guarantee you that 4 out of 5 people who take a break will pick up that issue and flip through it. Maybe, just maybe, that will entice someone to investigate that very special medium known as comic books.<br>Even if it's only one out of a hundred, that's growth in the industry that we don't have now.

  • June 22, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Pretty goofy if you ask me...

    by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby

    Let the man atleast finish his term before you churn out a fucking comic. Jeez...and I thought horror comics were strange!