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Massawyrm says that if you can read this then you must see Duncan Jones' MOON!!!

Hola all. Massawyrm here. If I had my way, I’d probably insist that most science fiction be made independently with low budgets. There’s just something about a film written from the perspective that there are no expensive, showy ways out of problems. Great science fiction is the product of ideas, not special effects. BLADE RUNNER and 2001 aren’t considered classics simply because of the way they looked – but because of the stories they told. And they have stayed relevant and adored for all this time because the stories are still riveting. That’s not to say that big budget science fiction is bad. But there exists a fundamental financial algorithm that states: as budgets of a film increase, the intelligence needed to understand it must decrease. Spectacular, expensive vistas come not only at the price of dollar signs, but at the cost of individuality and ingenuity. Sadly, most science fiction we get these days is actually more Space Opera than true sci-fi. It is fantasy dressed up with the trappings of sci-fi. And that has merit as well. I’m a huge fan of this kind of film – but it isn’t true sci-fi. Sci-fi is morality dressed up in fascinating, (almost literally) out-of-this-world situations. You look at something like PRIMER or TIMECRIMES or the first two acts of SUNSHINE. That’s science fiction. And it is in that spirit that MOON was made. It is nearly impossible to write about MOON without referencing the Bruce Dern classic SILENT RUNNING. This was clearly inspired by that and wrestles with a lot of the same thematic content. It is a simple story of one man, alone in space, with only a computer/robot as a companion. Here Sam Rockwell plays a supervisor of an automated mining operation on the moon. We’ve discovered the energy source of the future, H3, and it’s right there on the surface of the moon just waiting to be farmed by giant, hulking harvesters. But someone has to keep an eye on things. And that’s Sam Rockwell. As you probably suspect however, something goes terribly wrong and Rockwell finds himself put in a life or death dilemma that pits him against his corporate overlords in a battle of life and death versus the cost effectiveness of corporate greed. The film is, quite simply, brilliant. It is a stunningly smart, carefully honed work of fiction that is so well put together that it is hard to believe that it is pretty much a one man show. Sam Rockwell is alone. It’s just him. And while he gets to have conversations with his artificially intelligent Hal-like companion played by a wonderfully monotone Kevin Spacey, it is all Rockwell all the time. He is magnificent. The range of character and emotion we see in him from scene to scene is incredible. MOON is a quiet, understated film that will readily find itself placed within the modern Sci-fi canon. Look, if you read AICN on a regular basis, then odds are you have interests that involve intelligent genre fare. We’re a site rooted in our love of genre. But above that, we are a site in love with well crafted films. Sure, we enjoy the living hell out of our big popcorn films – but it is films like MOON that drive us. I got the same feeling watching this as I did watching LET THE RIGHT ONE IN. It is an instant classic, the ideal that others are shooting for. It is safe to say that if you’re a regular AICN reader, then this has to go on your must see list. It is a film too good, too smart and too inventive to be ignored. This is the perfect mid-summer cure for blockbusteridis. It opens in NY/LA today and then progresses wider and wider, with its big push coming to most major cities on July 10th. Check your local release date and WRITE IT DOWN. Take friends, preferably the kind you enjoy having coffee with afterwards. This is exactly the type of movie geeks like us live for. And it’s here. Make sure you see it big and beautiful. Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em. Massawyrm
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  • June 12, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST


    by SiNUS82

    Get that thing over here ASAP!

  • June 12, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    How bout if you can read this

    by Series7

    You have to give Moon a full distribution.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Can't wait to see this.

    by HoboCode

    Tops on my list.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST


    by Series7

    Didn't like. It was ok, kind of boring and predictable.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Not first

    by Blade_Runner

    Don't care. MOON, however, looked intriguing. Will definitely give it a look.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Duncan Jones AKA Zowie Bowie...


    Son of Starman/Man Who Fell To Earth! Just sayin'.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Has Ducan Jones done

    by Series7

    Anything else of note?

  • June 12, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Must have in space

    by Cockface

    A fleshlight. Not the butthole version though because if someone finds it how do you prove it was a girl butthole? Go Vag and paste some pubes on it. I like the juxtaposition of this post with the so-called intelligence of the film.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    Doesn't come out for another MONTH here in DC. WTF?

  • June 12, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    only film i'm dying to see this summer

    by palewook

    cant get to my town soon enough

  • June 12, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Yeah. Looking forward to this and Let The Right One In.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • June 12, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Sam Rockwell is a hell of an actor

    by surfsup22

    and I can't wait to see this movie.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Love Lo-Fi Sci-Fi

    by Aquatarkusman

    Before all of the CGI-infusion: that's what THX-1138 was, the original Solaris, even contemporary time travel like Primer/TimeCrimes. And, as the commenter upthread fittingly pointed out, The Man Who Feel to Earth.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Interesting theory in that first paragraph

    by I am_NOTREAL

    And I don't completely disagree, but the visual leaps taken by both Blade Runner and 2001 cannot be trivialized when trying to assess their longevity and continued hold on audiences today. A futuristic film had simply never looked as good as 2001 did in 1968. It was groundbreaking. And no one had imagined the future the same way as Blade Runner in 1981 (or '82? Can't be bothered w/ IMDB at the moment). But yeah, I generally consider CGI to be the bane of imaginative filmmaking. It's funny, maybe it really is all Lucas's fault - but pioneering spirit that gave such soul to Star Wars was ultimately lost in a torrent of bits and bytes, ones and zeroes, and dollar signs. The movies look fantastic, but that's all - like that gorgeous but ultimately vapid former Miss California that you'd love so much to screw but that you know you'd be tired of five minutes afterward.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    I've been looking forward to this...

    by panicdawg

    ...for quite some time now. I'm also excited about the praise Rockwell is getting for his performance. i thought he gave one of the best performances of '08 in "Snow Angels."

  • June 12, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    I am_NOTREAL

    by ColeTrickle

    I completely agree with you. CGI has pretty much ruined action and sci-fi movies. You never see the incredible sets you used to see in old movies. No great action pieces. Just computerized shit and computerized shit. Watching the G.I. Joe trailer in the theater made me want to puke. This shit needs to stop.........Moon looks amazing by the way. Rockwell needs some starring roles. He's the man

  • June 12, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Timecrimes > Primer

    by Flying Spaghetti Monster

  • June 12, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Duncan Jones likes computer games and comics

    by Liveforfilms

    I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. Everyone who has seen it raves about it. Plus Rockwell is always good. I recently interviewed Duncan Jones and he was really down to earth. Turns out he is a lot like you and me - he loves computer games and one of his favourite films is Blood of Heroes aka Salute to the Jugger. A top bloke and someone who should hopefully keep on making intelligent, cool films. The full interview is here if anyone fancies a read of it

  • June 12, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST


    by ColeTrickle

    Are you fareal?

  • June 12, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    well, fine, ill see it if it...

    by Judge Briggs


  • June 12, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    He's fareal.

    by Spamgelus

    I think Fareal is fareal. Fareally 15 years old...

  • June 12, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    I'm interested in the movie

    by Rat Fink

    I just don't want it to get boring, with it just being a one man show and all. It's kind of like Cast Away. That movie was just a little too boring. It needed to introduce something else in it.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    This movie is going to be complete tripe

    by Another_Typical_Talkbacker

    And Sam Rockwell sucks coyote nuts. The only this wouldn't of sucked is if I wrote and directed it myself. Why? Cause I'm another typical talkbacker bitch!

  • June 12, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST


    by GiveMeAnFinBreak

    Since when have AICN readers been an overly intelligent lot? Just because you can name all 267 of Emperor Palpatine's illegitimate love children, as revealed in some limited run non-canon Star Wars manga from, like, 1987, does not mean you're intelligent. It just means you're kind of sad.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to Moon, though.

    by GiveMeAnFinBreak

    Getting kind of a 2001 vibe from what I'm hearing, and that can't be a bad thing.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST


    by historygirl

    So I wasn't going to jump off of the bridge until you TOLD me not to jump off of the bridge. Now I have to, just to spite you. <p>That logic is fine if you are five, but then someone of that level of maturity shouldn't see this movie anyway. Just saying...

  • June 12, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    MOON is really good...

    by Merrick

    A little Euro-slow for my personal tastes, but very effective and memorable when all is said and done. A surprise & a treat. ALL HAIL GOOD, OLD-FASHIONED FX MODEL WORK AND (*gasp*) CHARACTERIZATION!!!

  • June 12, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Sorry for going of the subject

    by ballymoremonty

    Terminator Salvation: I had no interest in going to see this movie after Harry's shit throwing fest (a movie I'd really looked forward to). Last night my girlfriend decided she wanted to see it. I went along and you know this, it wasn't a bad movie at all. A few minor complaints, one being the ending (Kyle should have been shown burying Marcus). I really believe Harrys just a douche who decided to shit on some big blockbuster to up his credibility again. I'll tell you what, its a better movie than the last Hulk, which was instantly forgetful. So good man Mass, and fuck you Harry for nearly making me miss a half decent movie with killer robots.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Silent Running

    by gavdiggity

    was one of my favorite sci-fi movies as a kid. I'm really looking forward to Moon... and Massa comparing it to Let The Right One In just reinforces that.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    yay a review finally!

    by Castiel

    i thought the trailer looked great, i'm definately out to watch this... although i have to have let the right one in..not as fantastic as it was made out to be.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the write-up on this, Masswyrm.

    by jimmy rabbitte

    I can't wait to see this. I just wish it had gone wide already.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Live in L.A., going TAH-DAY...

    by SK229

    hey, that rhymes. Seriously, though, I can't wait to see this. Checking theater listings now.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    i can already tell i wont like this

    by Bouncy X

    when these sorta movies come along, that all the geek sites praise, they always tend to either not live up to the hype or just be boring. dont get me wrong, i'll definately see it on video or cable down the line but yeah. its kinda like when these comedies become a huge hit and EVERYone loves it and says how hilarious it is....there's been so many and when i finally saw them i was like "thats it...really?". so yeah i can already sense the same here. but of course i'm one of those people who likes many of the movies this site regularly trashes so who cares what i think. :P

  • June 12, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Anyone Worried About Euro-Slowness

    by Aquatarkusman

    Should watch Tarkovsky's Stalker three times in a row to recalibrate their gauges, especially where the norm these days is 1.2-second shots, shaky cams, lens flares, and editing done by a team of 8-year-olds hepped up on goofballs and corn syrup.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Fair enough, Bouncy X...

    by gavdiggity

    stick to the Michael Bay movies. Moon is actually one of the few movies I've excited to see this summer.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by Castiel

    the incredible hulk was a fucking great movie. i agree the venom that harry spew over salvation was not warrented

  • June 12, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    I love how the city I live in

    by Flying Spaghetti Monster

    Will never get this...Fuck Greensboro

  • June 12, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Moon 2: Revenge of the Mooninites

    by Aquatarkusman

    "On the moon, Sam Rockwell has his pants pulled down and is spanked with moon rocks."

  • June 12, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    What is sci-fi? What is fantasy?

    by Mr Gorilla

    I always thought that sci-fi was often about: 'if such an such a technological breakthrough was achieved by man, what would the effect be on individuals and on society'; whereas fantasy replaces the 'technological breakthrough' bit with a 'if a fantastical occurence or word was real'. Of course lots of sci-fi blurs the two. The idea of having wars fought between essentially dispensable beings seems to me to be quite sci-fi (Attack of the Clones) but Star Wars is predominantly a fantasy. Conversely, 2001 seems to me to be about how technology has contributed to some loss of humanity, but the whole alien black rectangle thing is surely fantasy. Am I boring you all yet?

  • June 12, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Notreal, great post and thn you

    by bobbofatz

    had to throw in the jab with your comment about ex miss Cal. Just because she disagrees with gay marriage it does not make her an idiot. If you listen to her she sounds fairly intelligent. Light years ahead of Perez. In interviews she has been flustered but shes 19-21 years old. Have you heard Biden in speeches or interviews. It just seems dangerous for a collective group to label people as idiotic/trailer trash because of their faith or differing views on social issues. I hope Moon is as good as advertised. Smart cheap sci fi= most fun at the movies.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    So is SOLARIS sci-fi or fantasy?

    by Mr Gorilla

    Hmmmm? Brave New World is sci-fi, surely.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    can't wait for this

    by Jared

    unfortunately it's not coming to Minneapolis until July 10th.

  • June 12, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Yeah, but he loved Taken, so what does that say?

    by coconutgroves

    Looking forward to Moon, but Massa loved Taken - so I don't trust his opinion after that steaming turd.

  • June 12, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Honestly, I didn't care

    by I am_NOTREAL

    about Miss Ca's stand on gay marriage, it was her opinion and that's all--and the fact that she had enough going on to stand up there and say it point blank was actually somewhat honorable, however misguided I personally find it to be. It's in her words and actions after that controversy that she proved herself vapid, at least to me. But anyway, that's not the point.

  • June 12, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Is Walter Koenig in it?

    by Forsakyn

    He has unfinished business with those wascally wobots on the moon!

  • June 12, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Looking forward to seeing this

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    I'm bettin it's happy dance good

  • June 12, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST


    by ballymoremonty

    I'm not saying the incredible Hulk was bad movie at all, I think Terminator Salvation was more memorable and had more impact on me leaving the cinema. Hulk was a good movie to I wouldn't dispute that. I really couldn't get the hate for Sam Worthington's performance as I thought he aced it. This had to lay new foundations and did just that, it couldn't just go on the same dynamics as the previous terminators as the setting was just to far removed. They didn't kill the franchise, I'd love to see Cameron back at the helm for the next one, probably never happen though.

  • June 12, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Interesting from Wikipedia

    by Aquatarkusman

    Jones is currently planning a follow up film, which will serve as an epilogue to Moon. "Sam has agreed to do a little cameo in the next film[8]," says Jones, who ultimately hopes to do three films in the Moon series. (the footnote refers to a Suicide Girls interview given yesterday)

  • June 12, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    Oh fuuuuuck off Merrick. you and your 14 year old son. JK

  • June 12, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    kudos to low budget filmmaking

    by BendersShinyAss

    but it doesnt look like the surface of the moon. not in any of telescops ive been peering down. whats that you say? vegitation?? NOOOOOOOOOO!!! ?

  • June 12, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST


    by Tin Snoman

    Like as in "intelligent and thought-provoking, with a complete lack of Avid-farts?"<p>More movies should be "Euro-slow".

  • June 12, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    LTR1I - Are they going to fix the subtitles on the DVD?

    by Squashua

    I heard the english subtitles on the DVD release are horrendous.

  • June 12, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Rockwell feels like he's going to mirror Oldman's career

    by JackRabbitSlim

    Be a critical darling, a little hard to work with, difficult to cast in the right kind of role, have serious ups and downs but will work forever. Sorry - not a lead in anything but indies - which isn't a bad thing.

  • June 12, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Is there a Harry review

    by Series7

    Somewhere? Because he has the first tag line in the trailer?

  • June 12, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Yes, If Rockwell comes to equal Oldman

    by I am_NOTREAL

    he should count himself lucky, Gary Oldman has had one of the most consistently diverse and interesting careers of the past 20 some years, leading man / mainstream studio bona fides notwithstanding. A great actor.

  • June 12, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST



    That's one moon that deserves a movie of its own.

  • June 12, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Solaris is a Goddamed Musical and...

    by solartaco3

    ...I defy anyone to prove me wrong.

  • June 12, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

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  • June 12, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Excellent review...first 2 paragraphs especially

    by Cellar Door

    Holy shit but you've summed the latent 'science-fiction vs quasi-sci-fi action (popcorn) movie' conundrum up quite succinctly in those first 2 paragraphs, Massa. And without insulting either genre either. I believe you are exactly right with this:<p>"But there exists a fundamental financial algorithm that states: as budgets of a film increase, the intelligence needed to understand it must decrease."<p>I think this is why we get such lame attempts at "science-fiction" so often by high coin studios and thus really have a bereft choice for the true genre of science-fiction (thank the Godz for literature).<p>Well played, good Sir! Bravo!

  • June 12, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    I would love to see it but its not playing near me

    by Norm3

    in the big city of Philly! What a joke.

  • June 12, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST


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  • June 12, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    I agree with massawyrm's definition

    by Ray Gamma

    Massawyrm, what you said about most modern 'sci-fi' actually being 'space opera/fantasy' dressed up as sci-fi, is absolutely spot-on.

  • June 12, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Sam Rockwell and "Genre films."

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    I don't know who to thank. Either studio heads are non-beleivers and refuse to back Rockwell as a lead in big-bdget movies or Rockwell turns them down and instead opts for smaller roles in *gasp* good and interesting movies. Either way, somebody needs to be thanked. Rockwell's carrer so far has been very interesting and entertaining and yes he seems to be going the route of Oldman-esque. He can pull off the charsimatic good looking lead type, and the off the wall goofball type in one fell swoop. His range is impressive and so is his choice of roles. <br> <br> Really looking forward to seeing this and have been since I first saw the trailer online a few days before (naturally) AICN posted it. Alas, Capone did not choo-choo-choose me for the Chicago screening so wait I must. <br> <br> Now for the complaint department, and this one has been bubbling up inside for a long, long time and it's to the point now that it really bothers me. <br> <br> "Look, if you read AICN on a regular basis, then odds are you have interests that involve intelligent genre fare. We’re a site rooted in our love of genre." <br> <br> All movies are genre movies!!! Genre is just a worsd to describe a certain sub-category; a comedy is a genre movie because it falls under the genre of comedy. When did this all start, this misuse of the word genre? It's everywhere now, not just AICN but major media sources are using the word genre to describe certain genres of film. I think that's just goddamned silly and I don't know why it bothers me so much but it does. <br> <br> Anyway, this one looks really fucking good, can't wait.

  • June 12, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    agree with aqua - lo-fi sci-fi is cool

    by smudgewhat

    nice and slow - make it all about the characters and psychology of the situation. Solaris really rang my bell. i hope this one makes it to my hizouse

  • June 12, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    So when is this ACTUALLY coming out

    by jimmy_009

    I fucking hate limited release bullshit. Two cities? WTF?!?

  • June 12, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Pretty sure I'm gonna have to wait for the DVD

    by SoylentMean

    Which is apparently the same story for The Brothers Bloom. I guess there are some benefits to living in a big city. Too bad getting to see almost any theatrically released film isn't a big enough perk to get me to accept rampant crime and neighbor apathy.

  • June 12, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Sam Rockwell...

    by SoylentMean

    has anyone seen the trailers for the upcoming movie Orphan and then gotten the ripoff vibe since it looks very similar to the movie Joshua (which I believe also starred Vera Farmiga). Just thought I'd ask since the trailers kinda irk me.

  • June 12, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    My favorite lo-fi scif fi movie of all time is...

    by SoylentMean

    Soylent Green. Should be kinda obvious.

  • June 12, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    I'm a bit euro-slow...

    by kjmad25

    so this movie should fit me just fine.

  • June 12, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Duncan Jones Interview

    by DanPersons

    You can check out the MIGHTY MOVIE PODCAST interview with director Duncan Jones here:

  • June 12, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    I thought there was a full MOON..

    by DrMorbius

    out last night, but<P>it was only URANUS!!!

  • June 12, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Let The Right One In was okay at best

    by DoctorWho?

    I was expecting something chilling or hauntingly beautiful...a fairy tale as Del Toro said. It was neither. If Moon is on par with that I will wait for Redbox.

  • June 12, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Ridiculous and retarded theory there...

    by quantize

    money has nothing to do with it...full stop. Story and execution.

  • June 12, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Let the Right One In....'OK'

    by quantize

    Really go get some fuckin taste.. the mark of AICN talkbacks...fucking losers talking down obviously good films

  • June 12, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    I'd rather have a .....

    by DrMorbius

    "MOON oner MYHAMMY"

  • June 12, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    If you are comparing to Let The Right One In

    by MrJJonz

    Then I am there . . .so far my film of the year and methinks it will take some beating. I thought it was better than the book and that doesn't happen often

  • June 12, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    When it comes to science fiction...

    by Amy Chasing

    why do people keep bringing up Sunshine and keep forgetting Gattaca? <P> Gattaca was the best movie of its year (as Let The Right One In was of last). Sunshine... not so much.

  • June 12, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST


    by DrMorbius

    I'm with you on Gattica.<P>Your thoughts on Dark City?

  • June 13, 2009, 12:22 a.m. CST

    M-O-O-N spells....

    by Bootskin

    A damn good looking film.

  • June 13, 2009, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Hey Quantize...

    by DoctorWho?

    How about you 'taste' my balls?<p> You see a decent movie and declare it the greatest thing since sliced bread. THAT is the mark of a typical AICN tool.

  • June 13, 2009, 2:43 a.m. CST

    If you mean Proyas' Dark City...

    by Amy Chasing

    It's one of my favorite films. And not the version with the voice over at the start that explains everything and basically gives away half the point of the film. <P> And yet I prefer the original Blade Runner with Ford's narration. Go figure but I just think the original is it and special editions/directors cuts are just extras for the DVD.

  • June 13, 2009, 2:47 a.m. CST

    If you mean Proyas' Dark City...

    by Amy Chasing

    It's one of my favorite films. And not the version with the voice over at the start that explains everything and basically gives away half the point of the film. <P> And yet I prefer the original Blade Runner with Ford's narration. Go figure but I just think the original is it and special editions/directors cuts are just extras for the DVD.

  • June 13, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST

    How 'bout a "remove" feature for double-posts?

    by Amy Chasing

    No? It just seems a viable alternative to the "edit" button that has been asked for forever and continues to be.

  • June 13, 2009, 2:54 a.m. CST

    DoctorWho? - what's your fave film of 2008?

    by Amy Chasing

    Just wondering.

  • June 13, 2009, 4:49 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives - as Will Smith said...

    by Amy Chasing

    To paraphrase: "I'm in a lot of action movies. Action movies don't get Oscars. What have they got? Oh yeah... fans." <P> It'd be nice to see more big budget science fiction. It'd be nice to see more big audiences for science fiction too.

  • June 13, 2009, 6:06 a.m. CST


    by Massawyrm 1

  • June 13, 2009, 6:09 a.m. CST


    by Massawyrm 1

    "BLADE RUNNER and 2001 aren’t considered classics simply because of the way they looked," pay close attention to the wording. I'm well aware of the budget size. But these are the rare examples when Hollywood got away with making classics with big budget money. It was important to point these out before folks thought I was in any way biased against budgets. I'm biased against the types of decisions large budgets usually bring with them.

  • June 13, 2009, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Your best 5 sci fi movies

    by bobbofatz

    of all time. ESB Aliens Alien Term1 Matrix

  • June 13, 2009, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Next 5

    by bobbofatz

    Predator Starwars BladeRunner 2001 the Thing

  • June 13, 2009, 7 a.m. CST

    Five more

    by bobbofatz

    Robocop Khan TotalRecall the Fly Twelve Monkeys

  • June 13, 2009, 7:03 a.m. CST

    What movies are greater?

    by bobbofatz

  • June 13, 2009, 7:40 a.m. CST

    I don't know about greater but I'd include...

    by Amy Chasing

    Gattaca, Close Encounters, Donnie Darko, Dark City, Metropolis, Clockwork Orange, Ghost In The Shell, Galaxy Quest, Children Of Men, and probably also Cube, Contact, Back To The Future, X-Men 2, Brazil, Paprika, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, and A Scanner Darkly. <P> Any questions? :)

  • June 13, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Oh, would Dr Strangelove fit?

    by Amy Chasing

    yeah, why not.

  • June 13, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    I'm feeling Massa's love for this movie, and it's great.

  • June 13, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Danny Boyle's SUNSHINE is the shit, yo

    by Kentucky Colonel

    When the Wife and I were doing our European Tour in 2007 you couldn't go into any Underground station without seeing big assed posters for SUNSHINE. When it finally made it's way across the pond six months later it only played as an AMC SELECT film in mass distribution after it had it's limited run showing at the AFI Silver (for one week I think). And you are too right...the first two acts are amazing, and even the third act is pretty good except for the whole, um, monster man plot device. I still have a man crush on Cillian, in only the most hetero of ways (damned I wish I had his eyes!). Do not be afraid, go out and dig on some Sunshine. I am looking forward to MOON very soon!

  • June 13, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Amy Chasing...

    by DoctorWho?

    Beverly Hills Chiuahua<p> All kiding aside I would have to say Gran Torino.<p> Keep in mind I thought 2008 was particularly thin on movies. Oh I enjoyed a lot of them... but greatness?? Not.<p> Also, I have not see 90% of the films released in's quite possible I'm missing the greatest movie ever made. There was a time when I lived in Hollywood and saw EVERYTHING that came out. I mostly dig up old classics noir, 70's movies etc.<p> Gran Torino is exceptional. And frankly, Let The Right One In IS one of the best of the year because it stand out among the others. But I don't consider it a 'great' film. A great film is something I will watch again if not multiple times. I'd recommend it but I have no need to see it again.

  • June 13, 2009, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Silent Running is a good candidate for a remake.

    by Royston Lodge

    I just finished re-watching Silent Running, and damn if I don't think it would be a decent subject for a remake.<p> It's one of those movies with a great premise with iffy execution.<p> All a good remake would need is:<p> - Better designs for the robots.<p> - A better explanation about why they're transporting the forests.<p> - A better explanation for why the corporation orders them to jettison the domes.<p> - Freeman kicking into action way sooner so he saves more of the domes.<p> - Deeper exploration about how the solitude drives him batshit crazy.<p> - No fuckin' Joan Baez music.<p> - Way more ambiguity over whether the robots actually have feelings or not.<p> And, I'd change it so he reprograms the bots to take the ship into a decent orbit of the sun, for the light. Then, after he starts going insane and causing damage to the ship, have the bots kill him so they can fulfill the very mission that he's assigned for them.<p> But, that's just me.

  • June 13, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST

    One last thing about Silent Running...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...oh yeah, more tension could be wrung out of the plot by making Freeman purely a life sciences officer, with little to no knowledge about how to actually pilot a big-assed spaceship.<p> That way, the decision to "get rid of" the rest of the crew becomes way more suspenseful.<p> I can really picture a "ok, what the hell do I do now," sort of scene, that really felt like it's missing from the original.

  • June 13, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Regarding sci-fi budget vs. intelligence.

    by Royston Lodge

    I don't think that "budget" is necessarily the deciding factor. I think the power of the director/producer to get the freedom to make the movie that they want to make is pretty up there as well.<p> I'm thinking of Spielberg's career here, where he does one for the studio, and then he gets to do one for himself, and so-on.<p> Even if you don't LIKE some of the ones he did for himself, I don't think a smaller budget would have made them more enjoyable.<p> I'm still convinced that one of the pieces of dialogue he put into War of the Worlds was actually directed at George Lucas.<p> The scene in question is when they're running away from some battle off-screen, and the son wants to turn around and look over a mound of dirt to see the battle.<p> Tom Cruise grabs him and says something like, "you don't need to see it to know how terrible it is."<p> I can't remember the exact line, sorry.<p> Regardless, I think the line is actually a warning directly from Spielberg to Lucas (and maybe to young, up-and-coming sci-fi directors).<p> It's not like War of the Worlds is a low-budget flick, and it's not like Spielberg is a low-budget director. But he's always tried to place vital action off-screen.

  • June 14, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Just watched Silent Running

    by WillFerret

    Did they ever explain why the domes had to be in space? Why wouldn't they have domes with artificial lights right on Earth, which would cost next to nothing. A major oversight like that, plus dated effects and terrible music (ahem Joan Baez), make this movie unbearable and pointless for a modern sci-fi audience to watch. Bring on MOON though!!

  • June 14, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Saw it today, impressed

    by BittaCynic

    Enjoyed Moon from beginning to end. Great performance from Rockwell, impressive directorial debut from Duncan Jones. Solid sci-fi story with some nice touches. Doesn't handfeed you details, but depicts some interesting elements in a very subtle way. Only complaint is that I wouldn't have cast Kevin Spacey as the voice of Gerty. It takes you out of the movie because you're thinking "That's Kevin Spacey." Not a big deal, and most won't care, but an unknown actor would have served the atmosphere better. If you like 2001/Silent Running, it's a must see. Impressive visuals for a $5-million budget.

  • June 15, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST


    by HollywoodPlant

    Such an underrated film. One of the best sci-fi films out there. To go from Sunshine to Slumdog, Danny Boyle could do anything.

  • June 15, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Kevin Spacey

    by Animation

    BittaCynic ...<br /> That's always my problem with Kevin Spacey in every role he is in. "Hey, look, it's Kevin Spacey. Why's he talking to Superman? Hey, its Kevin Spacey. Why is he crying? Why did Kevin Spacey just shoot that guy?" Or whatever. He takes me OUT of the character and moment every time I see him. So, I'm dreading his role in MOON because his voice does the same thing to me. Bah!<br /> Oh well.

  • June 15, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    I don't think I've ever heard it said better

    by nechyv

    "there exists a fundamental financial algorithm that states: as budgets of a film increase, the intelligence needed to understand it must decrease." Yeah, thats about right. Looking forward to this movie, good review.

  • June 15, 2009, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Can't Wait

    by Cobbio

    Finally, an independent, well-acted, non-braindead science fiction story. Haven't seen one of those all year (except for "Sleep Dealer").<p> I'll be there opening night!