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PREDATORS May Have A Director, Too...
Merrick here...
Bloody Disgusting is saying Neil Marshall (THE DESCENT, DOOMSDAY, and the forthcoming CENTURION) is in "close talks" to direct the Robert Rodriguez produced PREDATORS.
Read about it HERE.
This is a more promising choice than the CONAN news (HERE). I find Marshall's films to be inconsistent, but he's usually (at least) interesting & I think he just might have this one in him.
More info as more comes in...
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I thought RR was directing?
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Neil Marshall is a much better choice anyway. This is good news.
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Why can't they get a proven director of the genre to flesh this out? This is going to be another B movie like the last 2 AVP's.
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Was that the movie about a group of British seplunker girls that became lost in a cave and attacked by clean-cut 1950's suburbanites?
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Let someone else direct.
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This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.
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It'll be entertaining thats for sure.
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he can do soilders and horror well so,yeah i'm up for this.
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Drive (2009/II) (in production)
Centurion (2009) (post-production)
Doomsday (2008)The Descent (2005)Dog Soldiers (2002)Combat (1999) -
As far as good news can go with this remake which admitedly isn't very far.
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I want the whole planet of predators to say that word
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to reboot this
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Could be a good choice. No reason he should not "get" the material. Unlike Paul W.S. Anderson.
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Not that I'm complaining, he is not a good director anyway...but...wasn't he supposed to direct this turkey...and sure fire bomb?
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But THE DESCENT is one of the top five best horror movies of the decade
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What is the think behind this?
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The Oak isn't gonna sign up for this!
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In dog soldiers he really handled the badass soldier dialogue stuff well, and The Descent is the best horror movie of the last 5 years as far as I'm concerned.
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That's great news! Always good to see a British director given a shot at the bigtime. I thought the English version of The Descent was about one of the scariest films i've seen, and he's proved himself in the 'beast stalking in the woods' genre with Dog Soldiers. So i'm positive he can kick some arse with a big budget. GOOO, GET TO THE CHOPPER!!!!
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with a good screen play and RR on the green light, Marshall would be all sorts of perfect for this. Dog Soldiers stole open heartedly from all these 80s greats and was the most satisfying b-movie I've seen in years. The Descent was about 98% perfect in my book, combining elements of Alien and Deliverance without feeling like theft anymore, but simply knowing how to use what has worked well before and making something new from it (you know... learning from the past instead of just exploiting it). Doomsday... was a mess. But goddamn it I couldn't hate it. In his hands I found a movie that I wanted to hate too much fun too. It flirted more with theft than inspiration but while drawing from Road Warrior, No Escape (Absolom 2022) Escape from New York, it did mostly feel like its own animal within a kind of subgenre started by those films, so it gets a pretty solid B for what in most directors' hands would have been an F from me. In short, the guy hasn't let me down yet for entertainment as long as Doomsday was a (very forgivable) stumble along the way. But seriously, he gets all the kind of films from the period of Predator, and if anyone could give the body fishnet wearing ugly motherfuckers back their balls... he's a better surgeon than we could hope for.
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At least when Carpenter did genre homages, he did clever spins on them - Assault on Precinct 13 as an urban Rio Bravo, and Halloween with its Psycho allusions. Marshall just rips-off other movies outright. Utterly derivative and over-rated director.Rodriguez should do this himself; he's not great, but he can do decent action. And make this the third in the Predator trilogy - no reboot nonsense!
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how the fuck can there have a director already...more like just a name attached
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Was fucking brilliant
Spoon (to attacking werewolf):"I hope I give you the shits, you fucking wimp."I want this to be set in the past and have a Predator utter the above words as its about to be eaten by a T-Rex.So glad RR is not directing this w/e happened to him anyway? -
just like Grindhouse it couldn't get it's B-Movie shit together enough to be funny or exciting..The Descent though is a contemporary modern classic..only tasteless fucks would fail to see that.
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That trad-hack baldilocks? Keeeewl! It's like, gonna be, like, all bad-ass and have special, like, guest appearances by theIR girlfriends an...orrrh Man, I can't wait any longer. FIST/DICK PUMP...FIST/DICK PUMP...
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And Let Him Direct It
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this was an ace film, in parts a clear "homage" to Predator. not seen Doomsday, but Dog Soldiers and The Descent were ace, good luck to the chap with this project.
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to see the difference between Marshall and someone like Uwe Boll. The Descent was tired, derivative toss, every beat of that film could've been guessed at from the first five minutes.
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Is there a cut where you can actually see what the hell is going on? I turned the brightness to max on the player, the graphics card AND the monitor, and I STILL couldn't make head or tail of it.
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I'M SO JAZZED I THINK I WILL GO WITHOUT PREP H TONIGHT.
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See, I don't see the difference between someone like Marshall and Paul W Anderson, to be honest. The camera work for the action scenes will be choppy and fast. It won't feel like Predator. Get someone who not just respects the original, get the fucking guy who made it. McTiernan's first two movies are two of the best films ever made. Ever. Help him out, give him the bail, give him the film, give him a comeback.
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Jun 12, 2009 2:24:31 AM CDT
i said to my gf "jeez you have a big pussy, jeez you have a big
by prossor
she said why'd you say that twice? see i didnt... cause of the echo...
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You know... this feels like a set up for a trolling bout, but I'm going to assume for the moment that was a serious question prbt. I suppose we can argue where derivative ends and inspiration begins and all that, but to answer your question in the most direct way possible: the difference is craftsmanship. There is virtually not a single element of Boll's work that shows any sense of craftsmanship. Continuity, cinematography, editing, lighting, acting, plot, script. A director is not always in charge of all these elements directly per se, but they are in charge of making sure they work. Directors see bad dialog in scripts, the re-write or call for re-writes or for the actor to ad lib something better on the spot. They are in charge of all these elements working right in the end, and Boll shows virtually no skill whatsoever in any of these departments to make him the least bit deserving of half the material that he gets his grubby boxing gloves on. As for Marshall, again and again, he has shown all these skills. If you think he steals more than builds from, you can't deny that he does it very well. He knows how to set mood, get good performances out of people and... well... direct a frekken film. That's the core difference. The rest is debatable, but there is little credibility in saying that he isn't a better handler of his material.
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but I couldn't believe how below-par The Descent was. And I'd recently seen a Uwe Boll film (can't remember which one, are they different?), and it seemed just as crappy.
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And play Old Dutch.
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Seriously underused actor. Maybe casting directors get him confused with Sean Bean and hire the wrong man?
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Marshall makes an excellent choice for director of Predators. His style is an absolute perfect fit. Lets hope this comes together. I want to hear Marshall say, "It's a soldier movie... with Predators." Fuckin A.
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Dog Soldiers was the shit. Just watch that and you'll know this fucker will direct the shit out of Predators.
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Neil Marshall is a great choice for this picture. No man digs a genre picture linke Neil does. Best movie news in ages.
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Good = This guy is a fucking awesome director and this material is perfectly suited to him.Bad = He should be working on his own original material instead of this tired, raped franchise.
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"I couldn't believe how below-par The Descent was."How was The Descent 'below-par' exactly? You're just trying to be a Dickblood and start an argument.
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Now I'm excited about seeing Predators on screen again. Marshall will do this justice.
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Marshall's a fine chap, and his genre knowledge is unparalleled. And his movies are awesome fun.
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but Marshall is also a big fan boy, which could be a huge negative. Could go either way - The Descent good or Doomsday bad.
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No, JJ Abrams needs to stay the fuck away. We don't need a bland, TV movie Predator movie with beautiful young people running around 'acting'.
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I've been a supporter of Marshall's since Dog Soldiers - the first true horror classic to come out of Britain since Hellraiser. Personally i loved Doomsday - i'm a Carpenter fan and enjoyed how much a fan Marshall must be too. Looking forward to Centurion, but his Predator will be the film to see. I hope to see some of his regulars cast, as well as some big names he'd not had access to til now. I was hoping he'd rescue the Highlander remake, but i guess this is better. CAN'T BLOODY WAIT!
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this could / should work out. as long as they decide that they have something to say that is DIFFERENT from the original.
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Not perfect, but worlds better than he whose name must never be uttered.
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sounds really intriguing. Just checked it out on imdb. I wonder, however, why all current Roman epics have to be set in Britain? Wasn't the empire bigger than that?
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Not trying to start anything, I just thought it sucked, and I can't think of one positive thing to say about it. It was like The Cave, but less scary...
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That's how you do it. Fuck Nispel's Conan.
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...count me in. Can't be worse than the last three Predator/Alien movies.
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DOG SOLDIERS was terrific, THE DESCENT was one of the scariest films I'd seen in years and DOOMSDAY was simply one of the most insane and entertaining movies of 2008. This guy is the real deal and I truly hope he gets the job.
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hopefully he gets some input into the script...
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There is just something fundamentally off-putting about post-apocalypse movies that feature people talking in british/australian accents while wearing rubber tire body armor and punk haircuts. It only worked in Mad Max because it was so fucking campy, the movies were basically saying 'hey, I'm a really fucking stupid movie, but I'm being straightforward about it, so just try to enjoy it ok?'. And we did. Mostly because we were kids. It's sort of like the 'full retard' thing. You just don't do it. And Neil did it, and learned his lesson. Give the guy some credit, you don't just fall ass-backwards into making the best horror film in over a decade. He has talent, he just picked a bad project.
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went on to make Zardoz. Sometimes things just work better on paper.
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No other horror film made over the past 9 to 10 years can come even close to the level of scary brilliance of that film. You could argue for Let The Right One In, but I don't really consider it a full-blown horror (it is a fantastic film, though).
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I've been a horror fan since I first saw Nightmare on Elm St as a kid, hell I used to even have a subscription to Fangoria. So it goes without saying I'm pretty jaded and de-sensitized to horror films, and the Descent is so fucking intense it almost makes me hyperventilate every time I watch it. I'm claustrophobic and the Descent captured the creeping horror of confined spaces on a level the Cave couldn't even approach. The key to enjoying Descent is realizing that the part where the monsters come out is the least scary part of the film.
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There are only a handful of directors that could handle this movie in the right way, and he's definitely one of them.
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about the material.
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as long as he stays away from embracing the genre too hard. i can appreciate doomsday, he just went a little over board being a fan boy during the movie.
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Jun 12, 2009 6:14:56 AM CDT
John Carpenter is the poor man's John Carpenter these days.
by fortunesfool
And whoever said 'it needs Abrams'..Fuck off and leran something about film-making.
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Two horror films with excellent setups and terrible payoffs, and one crappy John Carpenter homage. Yay.
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You said, "The key to enjoying Descent is realizing that the part where the monsters come out is the least scary part of the film.".... On the basis of that they should give Marshall the Alien prequel (if Scott doesn't do it).
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If you don't understand the difference, allow me to explain:
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That's just your opinion Mr. Crapper, but I liked both Dog Soldiers and The Descent. And I love Doomsday.
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...was played straight, but it was very much tongue-in-cheek. He set about making the perfect post-pub-crawl movie. He knew exactly what he was doing and the sheer nuttiness of it works.
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Had a great dump this morning...really cleared me out.
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If that means 'can't-shoot-an-action-scene-to-save-your-skin' I guess you're right.
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...Does anyone else remember how much trouble fettastic used to get into regarding Dog Soldiers? He fucking HATED that movie, but his reasoning was that is was "too British" and that they "talked too much about tea."
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There was nothing wrong with the way Marshall shot the action in Doomsday. In fact, he handles that much more deftly than most of his contemporaries.
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no tempo, no excitement, no good.
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Bloody right. And i'm a Brit and i prefer coffee.
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I just don't get the love.
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I like how he handled the action scenes in Doomsday. Not sure what you mean exactly by having no tempo.
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You are clearly a British impostor if you don't drink tea. How dare you not follow a stereotype. Bastard.
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I'm an editor and have a modest sense of tempo and IMHO his action has it - has clear narrative beats to it that develop the action to a crescendo. Unlike the Mr Bay type of stuff that just hits you with quicker and quicker cuts without any real developments that 'up' the tension. I think Marshall is a grass-roots filmmaker that makes the movies he loves to watch. His films aren't perfect - they're more fun than that - they're visceral, intense rides that remind me of the shear, belief suspending moronic fun i had at the cinema as a kid seeing Carpenter.
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So he can get "the TRUTH" from his personal bestest friend, and then shit all over other websites?
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Does anyone know where to get a copy of the original Predators script. Apparently it's "widely available online" (source-Chud.com) but i'll be fucked if i can find it... If anyone's got an idea, let me know. I't'd be fun to see the original idea vs the finished product. Oh, and put the kettle on - it's your turn to brew up...
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Marshall is fine by me!!!
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I want to be serious for a minute. Either get Arnold prominently involved in this, or don't bother with the property.
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Thats right. I'm the guy. I thought it was funny. Didn't anyone get that it was supposed to be a joke? In the vein of Grindhouse? Guess not.
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It was the best apocalyptic, Scottish cannibal film I'd seen all year!
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I'm down for a new Predator flick
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After seeing DOG SOLDIERS and THE DESCENT, I was excited for the man's future in directing, feeling a similarity to a young James Cameron. But DOOMSDAY tossed THAT feeling out the window (so-to-speak), as I felt it was one of the WORST movies I've ever seen. If I hadn't shown up with two friends, I may have walked out. (One friend thought it was okay, the other friend thought it sucked.)
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Sorry I won't believe it until my butt is in the theater watching it. Until then I call BS.
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they don't give promising directors breaks anymore. They save those for cool guys like McG, and Tim Story.
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what do we want from this new Predator film? A fun time with guts & glory right? That Neil Marshall can deliver. Better him than some doofus like Justin Lin.
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Thought it was more a collage of his influences from Mad Max, Aliens, Highlander, etc.
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that's a very poor choice
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Jun 12, 2009 10:10:29 AM CDT
Doomsday was far from perfect but I liked it
by spifftacular squirrel girl
It's true that the movie itself is one big homage mash-up of different films but I think it makes for a nice 90 minute time waster on a weekend.
Marshall should be a nice pick for Predators.
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...done right. He did it once to get it out of his system, whereas Tarantino can do nothing else -- and quite badly in recent years, I might add.
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I bought this suckeron blu-ray and it is a great disc to add to the collection.
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They can save on make up. Wakka wakka wakka.
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If DOOMSDAY didn't exist this would've seemed exciting. But DOOMSDAY does exist. I don't know how he did it but with that one movie he erased all my positive feelings towards ever seeing one of his movies again. Such a horrible piece of worthless garbage that manages to take all the most enjoyable b-movie standbys and turns them into two hours of joyless, geography-free, life-sucking ugly, shaky, poorly edited embarrassment.
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Dog Soldiers, which was awesome, was obviously very influenced by "Predator", so Marshall should work well with this material...
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Was your comment meant for me?I have two copies of 'The Descent' and gave another copy to my step-brother for his birthday (who proclaimed it as 'Mad Scary!')I LOVE 'The Descent'.
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Spielberg made 'Hook'.Don't be so quick to dismiss someone because of one movie.I'm surprised you have so much hatred for 'Doomsday'. I thought it was fucking awesome.That's kinda like dismissing Steven Segal because of his poorer efforts (and he's made WAY more mis-fires than Marshall).You protest too much.
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With Johnny Depp as the main Predator wearing black and white striped stockings.
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more Descent and less Doomsday
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Gerbil boy you no-taste-loon i'd dismiss Steven Segal for every effort. He fights like an epileptic playing patty cake.
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By far the worst movie I've seen in the past 5 years, bar none. No other film even comes close. Hell, I'd rather see the new Eddie Murphy comedy 100x before I sat through this shit festering sore again. Words cannot describe how crappy this movie was.
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What Hollywood never, ever seems to get right is that if you hire mediocre talent to direct, you get a mediocre movie (if you're lucky). And yet, these studio exec idiots get overpaid to choose directors who range from "barely competent" to "hack". They hire Tim Story to do Fantastic Four (twice!). Result: both movies suck and the franchise is dead. And so on: Brett Ratner, McG, Stephen Summers, Len Wiseman, etc. The list is long and absurd.
Haven't these people made the connection yet? They're business men first and foremost, and true talent rakes in the big bucks. You hire Chris Nolan, Peter Jackson, Cuaron, Greengrass, Raimi, etc. These are the guys with actual vision and storytelling skills. Then you'll get your golden franchise, your money, and everyone will be happy. Just stop hiring these lame directors that everyone knows are no good at all. Stop. If you don't have the money to pay for them, then nurture promising young talent instead of going back to the well of bad results. What's wrong with you?? -
He's one of the most consistent directors out there!!! But he is always awesome!!!
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...was not that bad. Especially not bad enough to discredit THE DESCENT and DOG SOLDIERS. I would even go so far as to say I LIKE DOOMSDAY as a cheap thrills/fun to laugh at sort of movie. I'll agree though, this film needs to be closer to DOG SOLDIERS and THE DESCENT to be a success. But come on, who would be a better choice for a PREDATORS film right now? I don't really see one.
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Now let him do an R picture and then give him a crack at T5 if they still want to go down that road.
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Asimov, now we talked about this last week in your therapy session didn't we?
Star Trek and JJ Abrams are your 'no thoughts'. You have to go to your happy place and just block them out.
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No one can touch the Original Predator & Predator 2, they were the best action sci fi films of the decade...
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Bring Him back as a drill Sargeant or a Major in the movie, love for him to have a cameo, or Jesse Ventura, that would be cool, why not Shane Black ?????? LOL
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While i agree with most of your comments Doomsday, as maybe Marshall would, I've watched it twice and loved it both times. One half of the brain says he's just raping classics, while the other half loves that he's raping classics. It's a damn fine guilty pleasure and it seems that way for a lot of people here. But i don't wanna get too caught up in that film, when he's made two classics himself in Dog Soldiers and Descent, so say do you wanna lay money that his Predator will suck?
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"No-taste-loon" does not exist in this dojo.
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That was the idea, wasn't it? I mean, it was a joke. I won't defend it as being *good*, but I found it funny.
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was utter shit.
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That's great goddamn news. Now I gotta read the TB. Doomsday was SUPPOSED to suck? Interesting theory.
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Now I get it. The studio wanted to make a badly written, poorly acted, horribly designed, completely derivative movie that was supposed to be so excruciatinly awful that it stands out as the worst 'end of the world warrior' type movie ever made. I get that now. Thats what I was signing up to see-not a good or even mediocre film. A truly historically bad one. My bad.
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I must have missed the parts that were supposed to be funny.
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Hold off production on this for one more year. Then, simply move whatever characters end up surviving in "The Expendables" to the Predator world, and let the fun begin. And also bring in Steven Seagal playing himself.
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that it's on the assembly line - furthering the reflex to attach anyone they can so stuff can get fastracked. You think they want some auteur arguing with them about their Mountain Dew tie-ins they set up before the script is done? Tell me we won't see Predator masks with dreads in the toy aisles when this comes out - - - you couldn't get farther away from what McTiernan's movie was by doing it but you can bet your ass they will.
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Songs by Neil Diamond and Neil Young.
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...but I bet it's far superior to SPY KIDS 3 and SHARK BOY AND LAVA GIRL (or was it LAVA BOY AND SHARK GIRL?) and
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...I bet DOOMSDAY is on par with ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO, which was all over the place.
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Okay, Doomsday was terrible, but Dog Soldiers and Descent are great.
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Please go and sign up Director John McTiernan.
He is the only man that can Direct this movie with his ballsy style and 'no shit' approach.
Fans of sci-fi and action know this and quite frankly everyone that likes or loves the original film knows this! So say we all! -
Any movie that rips off 14 movies at once (all of the Mad Maxes, all of the 28 Days movies, both of the Escape movies, any given Robin Hood movie, plus some more I probably forgot about) is okay by me...
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He had great monsters in The Descent. That could balance out Rodriguez's cheesy home made cgi tendencies. Here's hoping he can be good again, I definitely am a fan of The Descent.
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I walked out of *The descent*
Doomsday was hilarious and made all my nerd buddies happy, but it's not art....
Very interesting pick---And I think it's gonna be marshall's one shot at the big leagues...
O.o very interesting
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No-Once Upon a Time in Mexico, although shitty, is a golden turd compared to DOOMSDAY. Shark Boy/Lava Girl is far superior also. I would tell you to just watch it yourself, but I can't get myself to go so low. If your feeling tempted, call a freind, call for help. You don't have to see it. We've been there, and buddy, it's no place anyone should have to go again.
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I'm no longer tempted to see Doomsday. But, hopefully, it was a 'difficult third film' or something.
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I gotta agree with BARYONYX - Upon a Time Mexico is by far the turdiest turd of the two. Doomsday's a mess, but it's great fanboy fun. Mexico makes no sense, it discombobulates and meanders. Depp and Rourke are highlights. Pity - i got so excited when i heard RR was doing his own Good, Bad & Ugly (greatest movie of all time;)
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