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MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE IV = Abrams & Cruise, Together Again?!?!
Merrick here...
The guys over at Spoiler TV are running THIS scan of a TV Guide mini-story in which J.J. Abrams indicates Tom Cruise has asked him to return to the franchise as a producer on MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE IV (although Abrams hasn't committed to directing the film yet).
Abrams says he and Cruise are developing a "realy cool idea".
I really liked the third MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE film and loved STAR TREK, so I can't see how this is in any way a bad notion...
Details per THIS write-up at Spoiler TV.
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The man picks solid material.
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MI3 was probably the best of the series so far
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And STAR TREK was even better. Abrams would be a fool not to return. And yes, Tom Cruise still has it.
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at being a crazy douche.
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Tom Cruise destroyed that movie's chances with his moronic, childish behavior, but it really was quite good.
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I would do crazy things to her. Tom Cruise Crazy.
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looking forward to seeing a new one.
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was the non-stop eye winking at previous Tom Cruise and action movies. It was trying to be too clever for its own good.
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and its gone. Some of his new stuffs not bad, but its not great either. And in your heart you kind of know that although it looks all right, it's actually just shit. Just like Elvis Presley or David Bowie; Had it, lost it, gone forever.
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I really enjoyed it... expected the AICN crowd to shit on it here but that doesn't seem to be the case!
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...the fracking camera and editing work. Too shaky, too many closeups, too fast editing. Of course I'm referring to the (otherwise well-staged) action sequences.What the hell happened to steady cam operators?
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I wish Abrams would stop taking on all these projects and start working on The Dark Tower
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It always does.
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We'd rather see Star Trek 2 fast-tracked.
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That movie was incredibly enjoyable and entertaining.
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Mission Impossible 3 is always top of everybody's list. Without question the greatest action movie of the past 30 years(only slightly better then Transformers) abrams is God and they need to get the gayariffic writing geniuses to do another script.... hopefully it will be about time travel. Michael Bay to direct. Shame that there is no new news about the Star Trek sequel. Maybe in another few hours they post some toy pictures.
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It really was. Best of the series-yes; but it's never been a particularly good series anyway, so that's not saying much. Great opening scene, and Hoffman was an excellent, though under-used, villain; the rest is a bland rip-off of other, better action movies, such as True Lies, which did the whole bridge blowing up scene and marital discord (the wife not knowing about her husband's job as a spy and then being drawn into the danger) a hundred times better, 12 years before.Also, wasn't the whole point of this series that they would have a different director for every sequel-and thus, each one would have a different style.
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Anything that keeps Abrams away from Star Trek can only be a good thing.
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MI2 was the best.
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i think im becoming less and less of a movie fan. these 'franchises' are all running on fumes. i hate that i even have to use the word 'franchise', but thats what they are. i cant even bother to get excited about Spiderman IV, a few years ago that would have been impossible. Yeah 3 sucked balls but i think its more that these stories have played themselves out. same with Terminator and ALiens. im just not interested in them any more.
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Jun 11, 2009 12:40:50 AM CDT
So what are you saying Turd, Tim Burton should direct MI4?
by zillabeast
Or perhaps Rob Reiner?
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but not Star Trek good. Good and cool ideas dont make a great movie, execution does. And now matter how much you hate first MI, that CIA heist is high-point of the series, to this date. Not to mention that one had the best soundtrack of the 3.
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The first is the obvious best. Are you all on crack?
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I'd welcome his return, but let's focus less on huge action set pieces, and more on "the con" of spywork. I like the intrigue of the first M:I.
Abrahms did well with Alias, so give him another crack at this franchise.
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The CIA heist sequence IS THE BEST action sequence of the last 30 years.
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The first M:I is still the best one. I had a really good summer film experience with that one back in the day, too.
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Rated R, with Chow Yun Fat as the bad guy.
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The hate came right on que! Gotta love it man!
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Love MI3, but I can't help thinking of the mano-a-mano at the end being a joke about Art vs. Commerce. Guess who represents each side, and guess who wins.
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and admit that you liked M:I 3?
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Jun 11, 2009 12:49:36 AM CDT
Written/Producted by Abrams.....Directed by the WOO
by gibsonusa returns
Perfect combination.
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u know it makes sense
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M:I:3 was the best in the series, no contest. But no way in fucking hell Abrams directs the 4th film. After Star Trek, he's way too big to be directing sequels to franchises he didn't start.
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that summer. It was a long time ago and maybe people forget how big and successful that one was.
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At the end, when Ethan escapes the evil lair and gets on the motorcycle....I dare you to say the other ones are better for audio awesomeness!
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I thought the exact same thing then just went with it. People still can't deny the first is the best. But yeah, we all know we secretly love MI:3...just deal with it, people!
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Exactly. MI was fucking huge that summer. I saw that shit 3 times in the theater, and I'm not the type of geek to do that sort of thing....though I will interject that I'm planning on seeing Up once a week until it leaves theaters....
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But I'll never understand why people like True Lies. Horrible corny film that was as funny as being made airtight by cheese products.
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STOP BULLSHITTING, THEY'RE ALL GARBAGE. PG-13 MASS MARKETED HORSESHIT WITH ZERO PLOT.
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until they kinda ran out of steam half way. Why was that? Cause Abrams is used to putting things in a 40-minute format?
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...was okay, in my opinion, but not great. I did like Star Trek, so hopefully, Abrams is growing as a feature film director.
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It's inhuman.....hmmn, I could be onto something there.
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It's just a vanity franchise for Tom Cruise.
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With the jumping off the building shit.
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to be honest, i tried to watch MI3 a couple of times, but sort of drifted off and lost interest within the first 30 minutes or so. going on the positive comments about it here, even in the face of what an easy / lazy target the Cruise is for abuse, best i go and make the effort to watch it again properly.
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MI 3 was great. Just watched it for the first time two days ago after being indifferent to the first two and JJ Abrams. Was pleasantly surprised. The way agent Farris died was FUCKED UP! Thanks for putting that image in my head JJ!
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MI3 was passable. I had an issue with Hoffman as a credible villain. Even a drugged Tom Cruise mini-me would beat that miserable fat fuck to a pulp.
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$546 million being the worldwide gross of MI2.
You want to tap into Asia or not?
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I think so. I like MI, but the plot was just piled on with bullshit. Don't make a campy TV show into a serious crime drama. It's only been done once: The Fugitive.
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...after Star Trek 2 (or 12, or whatever), Abrams should get to work on THE DARK TOWER! But other than that I liked M:i:III and I like Abrams generally, so yeah, I guess I can dig it. As a sidenote, I get why people hate Tom Cruise as a person, but what is with the rooting for his movies to fail? You know how many actors are either crazy or douchebags (or some combination of the two)? The best kinds! Anyway the guy's obviously a weirdo, but the work onscreen should stand for itself (for the record I think this applies the other way around too, since back in the day people used to see lousy Tom Cruise movies just because they were "Tom Cruise Movies").
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anyone?
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But a good idea guy.
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1. NO MASK RELATED ENDING. 2. Brian DePalma or Roger Donaldson directs.
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confirmed
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confirmed
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Yes, this is a vanity franchise for Cruise, but MI: 3 was the best of the bunch. I so wanted to love MI: 2 because of Woo, but my 6-year old could have written a better script. Abrams got it right, and if he's on-board, so am I.
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Stop this franchise hell. Stop it already! Get some original scripts made or indie will take over. I say let it...
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I love MI3. Fantastic suspense, pacing, and action. It's an incredible experience each time you watch it
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The stunts were so over the top they were laughable. Woo's version was the worst one of the lot.
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Tom Cruise is a cool guy. I would loved to work with him some day. I must say, JJ did a fine job with MI3...so I'm cheering this on if true!!!
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was pretty damn awesome. It's a shame that Cruise was going through his sofa jumping phase at the time or it would have been recognised as such. I didn't go see it at the cinema because I just couldn't watch Cruise anymore at the time and that was wrong of me. Watching the film a couple of years down the line I was totally blown away. It felt like a relaunch of the franchise. The same team doing MI:4 would be fantastic.
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What the fuck? Did I see the right movie? Abrams has a way making what feels like "imitation" movies. They go through all the right motions but feel like a trailer for a better movie. And they are as deep and intriguing as a bottle cap. The only great MI movie was the fucking first one...when it actually resembled a Mission Impossible movie...the other two just suck.
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I believe its from the movie "Nothing".
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Yes!
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he's had a lot of negative press as of late, but has been keeping his shit together as of late. he still is a great actor. MI3 was a top notch movie, and if you read the boards at the time there was a lot of bitching about cruise. I think though that a new mi movie would go down well. he's A-list baby no doubt about it. but i'd also like him to tackle some other stuff he's proved he can do it in the past. but a new franchise and a new blockbuster would put him back to where he belongs.
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That is all.
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It was fun. The sequence at the Vatican was awesome. I really didn't care for the Rabbit's Foot stuff, because, well, it could have been anything really.
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They have to do with the script.
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Even more so as it was improvised at the last minute when the Sydney authorities pulled the permissions for the original city-set finale.
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Why is it everyone who works with him says he's the nicest guy? Probably because he is, yet he still has his detractors. I just don't get it. He's never had a Bale type blow out and always been a professional, yet that just don't cut it for some. It's gotta be the scientology thing then. But again, why should that matter to anyone? He's entitled to believe what the hell he wants to. I mean, people don't get that worked up about Christians who believe Bible stories and that Mary was impregnated by god himself and that his son could walk on water and turn water into wine, etc. Crazy stuff when you think about it, so which is weirder, Christianity, Islam or scientology. I know that no one has invaded a country or massacred a bunch of people in the name of L Ron Hubbard before.
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Why does everyone say MI3 is great and then say that the shaky-cam, over editing ruined it. If you can't tell what the fuck is happening then ITS A BAD FILM!!!You're all giving terrible film-making a pass and, for the life of me, I don't know why. Abrams hasn't got a clue how to shoot a film and yet he's spoken about as the Spielberg. WTF people.
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Way to waste your time, guys. The last Cruise film I really liked was Minority Report.
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and considering it was his first feature, thats damn impressive. Star Trek was pretty much perfect, so any movie Abrams directs i will always go see. he's what so many directors arent right now.... a storyteller through and through.
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INCREDIBLE
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are moronic garbage. But I guess people really dig moronic garbage these days.
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Just wondering, 'cause those are some of the whitest gnashers I've ever seen!
You know what's weird? Nobody likes Tom Cruise. Nobody. Whene ver he makes a good movie I'll tell someone about it & they ALWAYS say "Yeah, I don't really like Tom Cruise, but that one was pretty good."
The only person I've ever met who liked him was my Gran. Whever he came on TV she'd be like "Oh. It's little Tommy Cruise. Bless him" :-). -
All I remember is it had Philip Seymour Hoffman in it, and Cruise slid down the top of a skyscraper or something. That said, I still think Cruise is great, say what you will about his private life - I still really enjoy seeing him in films.
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After all, he's made two near-classic Bond movies (and should have made Quantum). MI (which has morphed into a vanity Bond ripoff) would be perfect material for him. He's a much better choice than even Abrams.
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every movie he's made in Hollywood has been generic, bland, shit. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Broken Arrow is the perfect example of a shitty John Woo film.
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Jun 11, 2009 3:33:32 AM CDT
Broken Arrow is not as bad as its (internet) reputation.
by motoko kusanagi
Seriously.Granted, the story is lousy. But the action is pretty cool (though sub-standart Woo) and at least YOU CAN FOLLOW THE ACTION because of these niiiiice steady cam shots.
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......PAYCHECK. Now that was a fucking dumb and totally lame movie.
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more sequels
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this is good news. just saw the first mission impossible again over the weekend, and the Langley break-in reminded me how brilliant action scenes are when they are very quiet. Michael Bay: look and learn!
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Bring it on.
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IMHO... give the story a good villain and half the job's done
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90 FUCKING MINUTES OF IT.
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Jun 11, 2009 3:42:20 AM CDT
JJ THINKS LENS FLARES MAKE HIM A DIRECTOR
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
WRONG.
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I gotta admit that I cannot stand watching Tom Cruise's new work anymore. And I imagine I may not be the only one, as indicated by the box office performance of Cruise's last couple of movies.
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I think JJ having giving his work great pace, charactorization (i believed Cruise more in MI3 than any other) interesting, yet comprehensible plot, despite the frantic pace. You might knock him, but i can't see what he's done wrong! Indeed, Hoffman made MI3, but JJ cast him! After the dull MI1 and the shampoo ad that's MI2 i can't believe people are slating JJ!!! I guess this is a stoning offense here, but i like the lens flare as well.
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That film was boring and convoluted. I remember seeing it and not liking it all. And when M:I 3 came out, I picked up M:I 1 on DVD to get the free movie ticket (figuring I already had M:I 2 on DVD, so why not have the complete series). I gave it another shot and it was even worse than before. Sure it had a couple of great scenes in it, but that's it. I first hated it because they got rid of the whole team aspect in order to make Tom Cruise the star, and they did it in such a horrible way. Then when I watched it the second time, I realized there were way too many plot holes and the entire Jon Voight character being the bad guy just didn't make sense. M:I 3, however, had plot, and made me feel for the characters. I loved the fact that they got back to the team aspect (making it more like the show to me), even if it still had Cruise as the star (it was perfect balance of teamwork and having a star). And not only that, but they actually explained how the mask thing works and made it a part of the plot instead of overdoing it just to pull one over one us over and over.
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Amazing how the M.I. have the uncanny ability to MISS the whole fucking point of the original subject matter? Much like Jar Jar's Star Trek.
That would be that, this team is SO damn good at their specific skills (the reason why each individual member is chosen so carefully), that they can walk into hell and come back against all odds and not only COMPLETE their mission, but come home after ALIVE as well.
Every movie HAS to be about Cruise, and Cruise alone... that's why Valkyrie bombed, that's why all 3 of the M.I. movies sucked moldy donkey sphincter, and that's why Tom Cruise is one of the most freakishly overrated and under-talented actors of all time. -
the atmosphere was cool & was what I wanted from an M:I movie. M:I3 was a good action flick, but I want the next one more like Ronin, less like 24
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But 3 was still pretty good, thought the love interest angle was a bit cacker and the final showdown was somewhat underwhelming.
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It's like a shampoo commercial, and the whole motorbike sequence seems contrived - 'see what Woo can do with bikes'. After the Iko Iko mountain climbing it's just dull. I think.
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by god if you really have to insist on making a fourth film please get a new team for the story and keep out old farty pouty hack Ving Rhames.
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...The Iko mountain intro to MI2 was great, as was the Eurostar climax of MI1, but it was MI3 that got that balance of plot an pace that's vital to an action-thriller just right. As a bonus JJ knows how to keep it real, as in the pre-jumping off the roof sequence where Cruise actually looks a little nervous - much better direction. Then not showing us the action inside the building - only Cruise leaping out was a master-stroke of playing with audience expectations that at once keeps things fresh, ramps up the tension via his awaiting colleagues and moves the action forward very quickly - i mean, we've seen it all before in MI2; Cruise kills some bad guys and parachutes out the building. JJ shows his respect for the audience - not making them watch that all over again.
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...it was nevertheless a good solid spy action thriller and definitely way better than MI2. The only issue I had with MI3 was that it at times came off more like TV series rather than a big summer blockbuster (as a MI movie should be). An unfortunate JJ Abrams influence. I guess it's in equal parts casting and Abrams' backround. Still I'm excited about the possibility of the two working together again on another MI movie.
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messy bastards
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...Just remember this: they put a 1,000-foot-long fucking Starship in a cornfield just so NewKirk could ride up and stare at it. No other conceivable reason whatsoever. Jeezus Gawd.
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looked it up on imdb and looks pretty interesting. I'll check it out.
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Cruise might be a loony in real life, but I do like his Ethan Hunt character. However if they do make another one please can they find someone other than Abrams to do it? I say this for two reasons:
1) Abrams is a very average director and this series needs someone with real talent like De Palma to make it.
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Each installment needs a fresh look.
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Jun 11, 2009 6:04:32 AM CDT
Whoever directs, it needs a really great mission at the core.
by mr nicholas
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I guess I must repeat my previous post. Here goes:
I had an issue with Hoffman as a credible villain. Even a drugged Tom Cruise mini-me would beat that miserable fat fuck to a pulp.
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way better than MI2
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I'm still hoping for that Top Gun sequel they were talking about awhile back.
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It's what they call spectacle. You also help contradict all the people saying JJ is a TV only man with that point.
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I hate it when they start wearing masks in the series and the movies. I mean, c'mon... !
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In the age of Bourne and the new Bond, the last M:I movie felt like an episode of a TV show. They need to amp up the brutality in the series, have actual fights, and NO MORE M:I AGENTS TURNING TRAITOR-- that's been the plot of all three movies, goddamnit.
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Was Fred Durst's song for it. Horrible. Fuck, I am so glad he has gone away!
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...The shooting delay meant that Bob Hoskins had to give up his role as a Bond villain :(
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As much as i'd look forward to another JJ MI, i'd like to see how a Stone or Fincher entry would turn out.
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This time, for realz, yo! But seriously, P.H. Hoffman was great in 3, very Nolan-world arms dealer Penguin-esque.
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The word "scientology" itself IS a joke.
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It's not my money
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It's hilarious that some people think MI:3 is an action classic etc. Trust me, it 10 years you won't be saying that... it's adequate and unspired. Star Trek is massively overrated as well.
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No. Keep everyone in Hollywood away from this. Leave them as the great books they are.
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that was some of the worst directing I have ever seen.
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...Philip Seymour Hoffman, and the script.
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MI sucked. MI 2 sucked. MI 3 sucked. It was boring and hollow. I will not see a crappy 4th one.
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Jun 11, 2009 7:46:04 AM CDT
Will there be explosions from behind that send you sideways???
by turketron_2
I HOPE SO!
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... from gayness.
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Jun 11, 2009 7:54:10 AM CDT
Hasn't Cruise done enough damage to the Mission: Impossible univ
by curious jorge
Here's an idea... make an M:I movie that's actually based on, you know, the ORIGINAL TV SERIES.
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...Naw man, I hate the Church of Sci as much as the next thinking human, but the underground doomsday vault in Montana is another cult.
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...Naw man, I hate the Church of Sci as much as the next thinking human, but the underground doomsday vault in Montana is another cult.
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Despite being batshit crazy, Cruises star has faded big time. He's no longer a box office draw. It's just one of those inevitable things that happens to most stars. He was never a great actor, and he'll never win an Oscar. You know when they say "Johnny Depp IS Sweeny Todd" or "Jackie Earle Haley IS Rorschach"? Well "Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise playing Maverick in Top Gun."
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Then again, it's not like Cruise has much else going on, and pretty soon he'll be too old to do stunt-heavy work.Abram on the other hand - can kinda name his project at this point, I would think.
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De Palma had the suspense, Woo had the action, JJ dicknose fuckhead had... a love interest and a fat detached "villain" and yet ANOTHER rogue MI agent. The only good thing about MI:3 was Maggie Q in that dress.
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Really? Not trying to pick a fight but if the name wasn't retarded and "gee pay attention to me like DGDB" enough you gotta underscore the shit out of it as well?
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jj, cruise and orci.
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but he gets a pass for Minority Report.
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What a fucking rip-off.
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ever being able to leave the Earth's atmosphere at that point.
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SINCERELY_FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS
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I know. Weird, right? But, wait for it...A Terminator, M:I crossover. In T:5 when they go back in time, there's only one man who can help stop the Terminators (duh, duh, duh, DUH DUH)...Tom Cruise. Abrams and McG will co-direct, so you just know quality will ensue. You heard it here first, folks.
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Hunt's wife gets kidnapped. It all felt like it was rushed together to get to the ending quickly without elaborating on anything at that point. Also the slow-mo one shot bullet scene in the factory was terrible as was the humpty dumpty line.
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YOU_FAT_SACK_OF_DIRTY_PUSSY_SHIT
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Following T2 and True Lies.
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nuff said. :)
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You beat out Richard Gere merely by invoking George Lucas hate which is the single biggest AICN cliche of all. So you are not-only a DGDB buttwipe copycat but a walking cliche at that.George Lucas has more originality dangling from his neck-paunch than you can imagine in your entire pathetic, wannabe life.
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...with the MI3 apologists. I cannot for the life of me fathom the hate for MI3 nor the love for MI1, which was absolutely dreadful in every way. I think it's simply a case of people being blinded by the name Brian De Palma, the same way people give Minority Report (another awful movie) a free pass because of Spielberg's name.
There's nothing deep or profound about MI3, sure, but it's by far the best of the series in terms of pacing, plot and action. The scenes on the bridge and at the Vatican are GOLD.
I've tried to love MI1, but I hated its self-awareness, ludicrously convoluted plot, po-faced acting and laughable set-pieces way back in 1996 when I saw it for the first time, and loathed it even more the last time I saw it about two years ago.
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Those of you who think the minor quabbles or the similarities to A New Hope can keep it down are really stretching.
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Not that he would, but if he does...would that fly, is the question.
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You know it. I know it. Cruise should be in the Star Trek sequel, without a doubt. As an original character. Btw, The Dark Tower series won't happen until Lost finishes. I feel Damon Lindelof will be the prime force behind that series, IF it happens. Stephen King handed the rights to Lindelof/Abrams on a plate.
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Jun 11, 2009 9:03:48 AM CDT
M:I1 would've been the best if not for fucking over Jim Phelps
by spyguy
"Hey, that character you watched on TV and liked all those years? Turns out he's a total backstabbing douche."
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The story was absolute shit. Plot holes, cliches, Deux Ex Machina, weak character motivation, you name it. That Abrams made it watchable is a credit to his talents, but Orci and Kurtzman are fucking putzes who should stick to kids' movies like TRANSFORMERS...
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MI:2 and MI:3 were all about Tom Cruise not about the concept. If he didn't own the damn rights I'd say screw him and go back to MI's roots of sneaking into a police state country (there are a couple that come to mind: Iran, North Korea), steal the gold that the second-in-command has quietly been embezzling and frame the leader for it. And please please please cut the unrealistic cartoon-physics stunt crap.
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Jun 11, 2009 9:10:31 AM CDT
they should ,make it a prequel and bring back ESTEVEZ!!!!
by six demon bag
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JJ Abrams is a hemorrhoid on the ass of the planet!
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Just like "James Bond seeking revenge for his true love" ruins so many of those movies. I hate that plot.
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Of the absolutely gorgeous Thandie Newton. Am I the only one who remembers her in this otherwise cookie-cutter waste of a franchise??
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Was probably my favorite line from MI3 because it was an incredibly real and oddly touching moment. I mean, how do you instruct someone to load a gun in 10 seconds and have it make sense? It was a cool scene.
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I still have issues with Abrahm's direction, but nothing could be as bad as MI2. John Woo might as well have called that movie Face-Off 2.
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I can't understand anyone's action top 3 not including Die Hard. Or Crank. Or Desperado.
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He strings sequences together.
MI3 had a boat chase that went nowhere. It had no dramatic effect and did nothing to drive the movie.
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I agree that they should keep changing directors for the M:I series. Imagine a Brick-esque twisty turny investigative M:I movie. Nice.
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You guys are STILL pissing and moaning about the Enterprise being built on Earth instead of in space? Orci and Kurtzman addressed this on Trek Today. "We've heard the complaint that it is inefficient to build a space ship on the ground, but we figured that any ship that can literally cross the galaxy by warping space and moving faster than light is surely able to do what the space shuttle can do- and that is, get into space easily."Starfleet vessels can travel through every space anomaly thrown at them for 40 years by Trek writers and survive, but they somehow don't have the technology to... escape the Earth's gravitational pull?You guys are pathetic. $300 million and still trekking. :^P
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Every MI film should have a different director. My Vote: Tom Tykwer.
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I don't know if its as iconic as the first one, but it had me on the edge of my seat for most of it. That attack on the bridge is one of the best action sequences in some time. I loved it when I saw it, through all the anti-Cruise-backlash, and I still love now that people are finally realizing how good it really is. It's structured just about perfectly. As for the asshole who said MI:2 is the best, way to sound like a chump. That movie doesn't even try to make sense, or be cool. And the DOVES! In an underground bunker! Fuck. Tom Cruise is STILL #1, I agree with first poster, he consistently picks great stories more than any other actor alive.
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....except maybe Lions for Lambs. I know why he did it, but it wasn't a good movie.
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Ok so not to long ago Abrams and Lindoff came out and said that after LOST, they were going to concentrate on the Dark Tower series.... wtf!!! If I have to wait for the DT because of yet another Tom Cruise suckfest I am gonna be soooooooooo pissed.
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If I so much as smell Christian Bale's suckiness anywhere near the DT I am going to shove a light up his ass!!!
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Do you even know what a "plot" is? God, I hate stupid armchair critics. A movie can have a bad plot, a poorly thought out plot, a silly plot, or a idiotic plot. BUT, if something happens in the movie, i.e. a story happens, then there is a plot. A movie with ZERO PLOT would be a movies where literally nothing happens.
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Jun 11, 2009 10:48:28 AM CDT
The days of paying to see a Tom Cruise movie are long over...
by filmcritic3000
lest one give more money to his evil cult's coffers.
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They hate everything. A bunch of snobs. Sure Holly wood sucks donkey balls but we still get great movies from time to time but there are always so many haters here.
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Add me to the crew, I found MI-1 far too dense and convoluted, downright sludgy it was. MI-2 was simply bad and I place the entire blame on John Woo because it was a total by-the-book John Woo action film which is a serious mismatch. MI-2 had an asian action film sensibility but Mission Impossible is American James Bond without the hot chicks and cool action and needs to reflect a European flavor. MI-3 was the best because it was simple and straightforward spy action which is a mass audience bastardization of the shows intellect but hell Joe Sixpack ain't going to the theatre to see Peter Graves.
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I really enjoyed MI:3. Abrahms has a great eye for adding suspense details to action sequences that make them far more engrossing than most directors. The last few minutes of MI:3 are nail-bitingly supsenseful. My only objection to that film is when Cruise sneaks into the Vatican. Why does he need to do that fancy leap over the wall? Why not sneak in as a tourist? But other than that, a great action movie. I'd go see a fourth if Abrahms was involved. Dude knocked Star Trek out of the park.
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...by the constant cock sucking by every fat fuck here. I mean Star Trek and MI 3 was good, but that's about it.
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MI:4 "Full Throttle"
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I can remember not so long ago (before Star Trek came out) most of you pussies were ragging on Abrams (joining the flock as usual in bashing directors) destroying MI3 cause he was re-booting your beloved Star Trek. But now, after you realized he actually made the best Star Trek movie since First Contact, he's now your pal.
I always though MI3 was a brilliant movie and I looked forward to his re-imaging of a stale franchise. He did not fail.
So all of a sudden, everyone is jumping on the Abrams love train. You suck! -
The film that no one thought would ever actually get off the ground and happen. And when they finally did, you see what we got. Hollywood, move on....or just have JJ "re-boot" this franchise, too.
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If he ain't gonna be Kingpin, let's have him do that role in MI:4getable. I want a big, bald, pissed off Goodman beating up Tom Cruise!
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Third was excellent. First was best. My boy Voight! Second ate turds. Third was a fun action popcorn film. Abrams did an excellent job. Love to see a fourth one if he is at the helm.
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What is the point of action/sci-fi movies if you dont explain the action/sci-fi?
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I'm amazed. Gotta love that support. And as for the "jumping on Abrams dick AFTER Star Trek crew" I for one, have been sucking the mans dick since the very first episode of LOST. I will forever see just about anything he is involved because he has earned my loyalty by giving the world LOST. Yea, MI:3 was fucking awesome, but LOST changed the landscape of television and storytelling. Dick. Sucking. Material.
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Robert Graves can come back in time and tell Tom Cruise that he sucks.
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Heh, saves me a rant I suppose. Go for it. M:I 4 will surely kick lots of ass.
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But it was still pretty good
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Might have to check that out now off the strength of how good Lost, Cloverfield, and Star Trek are... The last MI movie I saw was the first which was pretty good despite Tom Cruise's horendous overacting, "THEY'RE DEAD!!! THEY'RE DEAD!!! THEY'RE ALL DEAD!!!!!!!!!"
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Wake me up when this series is about the Mission Impossible TEAM.
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I wish we could have a spy movie that's not about personal vendettas, saving your wife, etc.. how about a superspy/agent who just goes out and saves the world, at great risk to himself, because he's a fucking HERO?
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.. and does everybody have to be double-crossed by the "least likely person", which is usually actually the most obvious person?
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I thought is was a great set up but I can't even recall most of the film. I mean really, this is not that great of a franchise. I remember scenes from these movies...not stories, characters or plots.
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MI3 was decent (even better than that really) but there is some outrageous hyperbole here. The best action film of the last x-decades? You need to see more movies or at least stop pretending like there weren't any made before you could walk.
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Well, he does have a knack for characters who run throughout an entire feature's run time. I vote Franka Potente and her chunky German @$$ for Cruise's love interest.
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its early days yet but eon are researching afghanistan. Bon Vs international terrorists??.
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Just saw the last BOND film and thought it was wonderfully directed and edited. That car chase intro was kinetic.
Not only that, but the way they capture the essence of Bond being first and foremaost an assasin is very real...like the way he cooly holds that guy down on the balcony and looks around to make sure no one is looking while he bleeds to death from the knife wound he just gave him. Gritty. I've been reading the Mitch Rapp books by Vince Flynn...very much that degree of realism. No glamour. -
You make a trilogy and a crappy fourth film and now it's a franchise? Bond is a franchise, Jason and Freddie are franchises, Star Trek is a franchise, Star Wars is a franchise. Even Star Wars is small in this context. Now just because they make a forth film it's a franchise, when did that happen?
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Which I haven't seen yet, but even people who had problems with the script seemed to enjoy the action. It's at 58% on the Tomatometer so it seems like the people who dug it really dug it and the people who didn't really didn't. Fair enough. And since Jason Bourne has already tapped Franka Potente's chunky German @$$, I doubt Ethan Hunt wants his sloppy seconds. ;^) Although any movie with Ms. Potente is worth watching. For me, at least. I find her a refreshing change of pace from the fembot assembly line.
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Jun 11, 2009 12:48:00 PM CDT
MI3 was like an overlong Alias episode minus Jen Garner
by tylerdurden3395
So there was pretty much no point to it.
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In that it was worse than MI2. A *major* accomplishment.
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Mr Gorilla> You're right about silence in action movies! So good! The Bourne Identity scene with him free climbing down the embassy is brilliant, in part b/c Liman kept only the ambient sounds!
2dope> MI2 was my first taste of Thandie Newton! Easily the best part of the movie! Otherwise, that film made me cancel my membership in the Woo Fan Club. Ugh. -
tom cruise crazy in real life or not... as an actor, always picks good material and with his m.i. franchise=simply great entertainment!
better than any michael bay shit! -
Have you never heard of something that Alfred Hitchcock called a MacGuffin? Surely you've seen Pulp Fiction?
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I think Cruise is a weak link, personally. If JJ wants to do another spy movie, make a great movie with a great actor, not a great movie with a great name brand.
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do it.
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Someone who actually is a bad guy for once...and not an ex-employee! In one it was his boss...in 2 it was his ex-rival who went rogue...and in three it was his...boss?? again...but this time teamed up with a bad guy..so they are closer to giving me what I want...I really did like number three though...
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Seriously, what the fuck was that about?
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I would have to pass
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Jun 11, 2009 1:51:53 PM CDT
Is Harry lubing up for the Abrams phone call/email/set visit?
by scriptgirl_nipples
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AICN wouldn't accept spaces. Simple answer.
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I won't disagree with you, purely because your response was thoughtful and respectful.
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Totally underrated comic book. One of the best out there today. MI:3-Totally overrated movie. Looks like a TV show on the big screen. Soulless and empty, like Cruise himself. Someone said MI had no plot? Man, that sucker is all plot. People are ridiculous around here.
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Damn, that would be cool.
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Just wish when they set out to make a MI movie that they would actually make one.
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Just wanted to set you guys straight on that minor point. You're welcome.
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Do it, get to da choppa!
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The first was good... until the incredibly stupid ending. The rest suuuuuck.
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Dougray Scott got injured making the atrocious MI:2. Otherwise we'd have the pussiest Wolverine possible (true story). I will say that the bike chase climax of part two was pretty thrilling, but that's it. I really don't even remember too much of 3, like many here. It seems to have a narcotic effect on those that watch it. There was a cool helicopter chase, right? Thru some windmills? And then there is, as Jack Black put it on the Tropic Thunder commentary, the 'sidey-splosion'. Cracks my shit up.
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I fucking despised Star Trek. But MI3 was a damn fun ride, and it was just as good at home. So I'm appreciating what he did with this franchise, not anything after....
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Look, I liked "Lens Flare," err, I mean "Star Trek" as much as the next guy, but Mission Impossible 3 was by far the worst of the franchise. This guy Abrams is just good, he's not GREAT. Let's not go off our rockers.
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after hearing the bulk of you gushing about it. I hated M:I 2 so much that I didnt really pay attention to 3 when it came out.
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I thought that MI:3 wasn't any damn good but I don't blame Abrams so much for that as he was caught between a shitty Kurtzman and Orci hackfest of a script and Tommy Boy. Star Trek, on the other hand, only worked as lightweight, entertaining but utterly forgetable piffle of a movie because Abrams was able to overcome horible writing from the hackmiesters Kurtzman and Orci.The real problem here is the double dong dumbasses known as Kurtzman and Orci. Kick thier worthless ass to curb and hire a baboon to write the next movie. It can't be any worse.
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Jun 11, 2009 3:39:07 PM CDT
I like MI3 but have to admit that its pretty forgettable...
by gibsonusa returns
I watched all three movies in the theaters once and here's what scenes I remember about each.
MI1
-Something about camera glasses on the table.
-Ethan Hunt catching his sweat.
MI2
-Ethan climbing the rocks, tossing the sunglasses.
-Ethan and that girl seeing each other in slow motion to the music.
-Ethan and the girl, dueling cars.
-Cycle through the flames, and that entire sequence.
-Knife almost to the eye.
-Awesome soundtrack, including Limp and Metallica.
MI3
-Ethan tied to a chair.
-Jet flying by the bridge.
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The only good movie in the series was the first one (in my humble opinion)...I say reboot with a new cast. Actually make it about espionage and a fucking team instead of revolving around one Hollywood star.
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The plot made no sense, and was dumb. I hated how everyone seemed to have that dumb face mask reveal.
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That's what M:I3 was.
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Mission Impossible should have different directors for each movie. :( -
"We figured that any ship that can literally cross the galaxy by warping space and moving faster than light is surely able to do what the space shuttle can do- and that is, get into space easily"
Well, you figured wrong, muthafuckas. It can't. Now, go back to raping my childhood. -
each movie strikes a different chord. 1 was suspense, 2 was retarded action, 3 was suspense.. oh wait. I fucked up... 4 should be about robots.
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In this TB. I swear on Megan Fox's t&a.
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Kidding. Don't. Please.
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Prequel set in 1980's. Cold War baby!
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Exactly. That's what I've been saying. Terminator-M:I crossover!
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Then he ruins them by starring in them and hogging every scene.
He should move to producing. -
The second one was absolute shit though
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At this point I'll watch anything with his name on it.
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I.e the most hated movie on AICN? I dont think i've seen a single TBer defending that movie here. Can't ever remember that happening before.
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As Tom Cruise's secret gay lover, I admire his entire body of work.
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Kurtz and Orci need to go the fuck away. I consider MI3 the only decent thing they have ever created. But Abrams does a lot of his own rewrites....so ya never know what ended up on screen.
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I grew up watching MI in reruns after school and never could get past Jim Phelps being made the bad guy at the end of the first movie...so never saw the two sequels (for all I know he could have been redeemed in the other two movies). Redeeming Jim Phelps might be a good idea for the 4th movie...I'd definitely go back and watch 2 and 3 then ;)
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Jun 11, 2009 5:07:42 PM CDT
Joe Carnahan for MI4.....produced by Abrams....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
....written by the two of them please.
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And GauistheVague: Please enlighten me. Why can Starfleet Vessels THAT DON'T ACTUALLY EXIST do everything four decades of writers have said they can do, but not what THESE writers have said they can do?Use as much real science as you can to contradict 40 years of made up on the fly horseshit technobabble. And while you're at it come up with a pseudoscientific explanation for Red Matter. And the Rabbit's Foot in MI-3. And whatever's in the briefcase in PULP FICTION. And the uranium in the wine bottles in NOTORIOUS.Because none of us are able to enjoy ANY movie ever made unless everything onscreen is explained to us as pedantically as possible.You Geeks like JAWS Right? Talk to someone who catches sharks for a living sometime. Everything they do on that boat is WRONG. Sometimes laughably so. Did it ruin your enjoyment of the movie? No. Why? Because Robert Shaw, Richard Dreyfuss and Roy Scheider SEEMED like they knew what they were doing. Just like everyone in JJ's STAR TREK. And because you spend more time in your room jerking off to Star Trek Technical Manuals then you do deep sea fishing.
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Jun 11, 2009 5:10:42 PM CDT
cymbalta4thedevil -- nawwww....dont give a fuck about red matter
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Just give me some characters that don't annoy the fuck out of me, and a villain thats a teeny tiny bit intimidating next time. Thanks!
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Jun 11, 2009 5:13:08 PM CDT
Give us Carnahan's African private military story....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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It would actually be fun!
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...I DID find Jaws to be rather amateur.
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Jun 11, 2009 5:24:35 PM CDT
AWWWW!! PRESIDENT OBAMA WRITES EXCUSE NOTE FOR LITTLE GIRL!!
by bringingsexyback
http://tinyurl.com/mrku5q
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I could care less if Speilberg directed it. It started out interesting, then went to total shit. I hung in there up until Cruise had to chase his original eyeballs down a sloped corridor and into a sewer grill. Fucking stupid!
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Cause it's one of Spielberg's darkest films. And I thought it was a pretty sharp script as well. But I do loathe the video game jumping from car to car sequence. That was dumb, and dumb-looking.
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Shit. Can anyone tell me what that fucker was about?
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That was adorable! And lockesbrokenleg, this one's for you...In 2054, John Anderton is a member of an experimental Washington, D.C. police force known as Precrime, which uses future visions generated by three "precogs", mutated humans with precognition abilities, to stop murders. Due to the unit's actions, D.C. has been essentially murder-free for six years. Though chief of the force, Anderton has been addicted to an illegal psychoactive drug since the disappearance of his son Sean, which also caused his wife Lara to leave him. With the Precrime concept poised to go nationwide, the system is audited by Danny Witwer, a member of the Department of Justice. During the audit, the precogs predict that Anderton will murder a man named Leo Crow in 36 hours; believing the incident to be a setup by Witwer, who is aware of Anderton's addiction, and given his own ignorance of Leo Crow's existence prior to this point, Anderton attempts to hide the case and quickly departs the area before Witwer begins a manhunt for him. Anderton seeks the advice of Dr. Iris Hineman, the lead researcher of the Precrime technology. She explains to Anderton that the three precogs—the children of drug addicts using experimental drugs years ago—may see different visions of the future. When this happens, the system only provides data on the two reports which agree; a "minority report", showing the futures where the perpetrators may not have actually committed a murder, is discarded. According to Dr. Hineman, the female precog Agatha is likely the one who witnesses the minority reports.
Anderton has his eyes surgically replaced to avoid iris recognition scanners before travelling back to Precrime and kidnapping Agatha. This also disables the precogs' hive mind and prevents the system from being used. Anderton takes Agatha to a hacker, who is able to extract both Agatha's vision of Crow's murder—which reveals John's case lacks a minority report—and another depicting the murder of a woman named Anne Lively, which Agatha also showed to Anderton the day before he was incriminated. In an attempt to outrun the police, Anderton and Agatha end up at the apartment building where Crow is to be killed. Anderton breaks into Crow's room and finds hundreds of pictures of children, including his son, on Crow's bed, leading him to conclude that Crow is the man responsible for Sean's disappearance. When Crow arrives, Anderton holds him at gunpoint, but ultimately decides to control his anger and place Crow under arrest. Crow admits that he was hired to plant the photos and be killed so his family would be paid handsomely; realizing Anderton will no longer kill him, Crow grabs the officer's hand, making him fire at point-blank range, and dies. After assessing Crow's "murder", Witwer doubts that Anderton killed in cold blood, and approaches the Precrime division's director Lamar Burgess. Witwer, who has also discovered Agatha's recording of the Anne Lively murder, observes that someone must have manipulated the system to fake the murder. However, taking advantage of the precogs' temporary inability to operate, Burgess suddenly kills Witwer and frames Anderton for Witwer's murder.
Anderton approaches his ex-wife Lara for refuge, and realizes that his knowledge of the Lively case is why he is being targeted: Lively was Agatha's mother, and shortly after her request to see her daughter again, Lively was killed, despite an earlier attempt on her life failing when it was predicted by the precogs. The Precrime unit eventually captures Anderton and restores Agatha to the system. Burgess attempts to comfort Lara, but accidentally reveals that he knows more about Lively's death than implied. Lara uses this information to free Anderton.
At a banquet to celebrate the success of the Precrime unit and Burgess, Anderton plays Agatha's vision of the Lively murder for the gathered crowd, clearly showing Burgess as the murderer. As Burgess sneaks off to confront Anderton, a new precrime report is created: Anderton is the victim and Burgess is the murderer. When Burgess finds Anderton, Anderton says it's over and presents him with an no-win situation: if Burgess kills Anderton, he proves the system works but at the cost of a life sentence, while if he does not, the system will not have worked and the Precrime division will be shut down. Anderton reveals the fundamental flaw of the system: if one knows his or her own future, he or she can change it. Burgess resolves the paradox by killing himself. The Precrime program is shut down, all those jailed as a result of Precrime are pardoned and released and the precogs are given the chance to lead a full life. Anderton and Lara remarry and start a new family.
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i was dissapointed with MI3, its time to lose tom cruise and get some new blood to star in 4. the series needs a reboot
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Jun 11, 2009 6:21:55 PM CDT
They need to lose cruise and get some new blood to star in 4
by rhinopoley
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When Maggie Q steps out of the car. Classic scene in a terrific movie!
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Great story, great acting, great effects, great score, beautiful photography. You know who also didn't like that film? David Carradine....and now he is FUCKING DEAD.
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Fucking hilarious as ever. C'mon, tho, the jumping from car to car on the 'waterfall'? That sucked. I AM a fan of the movie, tho, so don't reach thru the internet and stop my heart.
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Recently we've seen great franchises be turned over to hack directors (Wolverine, X3, T4), at least here they're keeping talent in the mix.
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... on would-be big action blockbusters that climax with a fistfight. MI:3, STAR TREK, T4... action movies should INCREASE the scope of their action as they progress. You heard it here first.
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Excellent point. Can't believe I haven't thought of that.
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I think Abrams is a talented writer and director, but I did NOT like "Mission Impossible 3." This wasn't JJ's fault, however, it was Tom Cruise's. He was simply AWFUL as a spy.
The man desperately needs to let every person in the room know he's there and how moviestar cool he is, which is diametrically opposed to the true demeanor of an effective spy. You need to blend into a crowd, grow indistinct.
This, however, is impossible for Tom Cruise. He constantly yells and overacts, drawing attention to himself at every turn, which makes him an ineffective shithead. I wouldn't hire this guy for mall cop duty, let alone spy work. JJ Abrams needs to realize Cruise is no Sydney Bristow. Not even close. He can't mimic one single foreign accent, let alone speak the language with native fluency. He can't fit in with native populations due to his need to yell and act cool. He's a paper-thin attention whore.
Thus he's not a spy. He's an screw-brained exhibitionist.
I fucking hope JJ doesn't write or direct the next "Tom Cruise: Impossible" film. Cruise has LOST it. He sucks. -
wave bye-bye to him and his front and center uni-tooth
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Jun 11, 2009 8:32:03 PM CDT
Fuck Mission Impossible...Lets have a Kim Possible flick..
by conspiracy
maybe produced by Vivid and Staring Linsey Lohan.Fuck...you know you'd watch it over this shit.
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MI3 is bleh and MI2 is horrid. What they really need to do is approach these films the way the show did; rotating cast of crazy characters. The original DePalma film portrayed a group of specialists with different skills the best, particularly in the first half-hour. Get back to THAT.
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Honestly...being "Les Grossman" was the best thing Cruise has done in over a decade.
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*spoilers* *spoilers* *spoilers*
They have to get the First Lady's strap-on with an explosive devise out of the white house before she starts using it on the President???
Running out of ideas I guess. -
That's the prime directive.
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Jun 11, 2009 10:32:56 PM CDT
Remember when we had maybe 1 or 2 action films a year?
by lockesbrokenleg
Now everything is fucking action.
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You can almost tell that Val Kilmer didn't want to utter that line.
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>Fuck Mission Impossible...Lets >have a Kim Possible flick
Actually, I am surprised we haven't seen a live action KP movie in the works. -
Seriously, if Disney took the "Pirates" route (the first movie not 2-3), with a decent cast and a fun script, a PG/PG-13 Kim Possible movie might be a fun popcorn flick.
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Jun 11, 2009 11:49:14 PM CDT
maybe they should just collaborate on Valkyrie 2:
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Hitler's Pissed. Abrams could even use his nifty lens flare during the cremation scenes.
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on the DVD, Michael Mann made Tom Cruise deliver packages so that he could learn to blend in and not be seen, despite the fact that he's one of the biggest movie stars in the world. Was pretty funny, actually, how kind of 'surfer' or 'skater' dude he looked in those Fedex shorts and the long hair hanging out under the hat. Check it out if you ever want to see Cruise blending in.
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looks ridiculous in those goggles on top of the train
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I mean he seems to be able to orchestrate a cool set piece but then has no fucking clue where to put the camera.
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I will watch anything... I am watching M:I:III now and that bloke is the master of making weird time signatures sound cool. 5/4, 7/8 that cat is all over it, not to mention his bringing back of 60's style trumpet shakes and the like. Between MI3 and The Incredibles I'm fairly sure he should score every action film going. Oh dear, a glass or two really brings out the music nerd in me....
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If that's what sucking monkey penis is like, I want some.
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The guy can't act his way out of a paper bag! He plays the same ego maniac in every movie...and in real life!! I'd love to see another MI, but dump the over-rated midget...
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MI3 really was a good flick. Good Action and plot. However I must admit MI1 had more of a "suspense" quality to it. MI2 was...well it put me to sleep.
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Spazimov's malapropisms are almost as funny as Ziva David's on NCIS. He resembles that remark....
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