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Martin Scorsese Goes B-Movie Crazy In Brand New SHUTTER ISLAND Trailer!!!
Beaks here...

I'm on my way out the door for a screening, but I feel duty-bound to leave you with a link to the just-posted trailer of Martin Scorsese's SHUTTER ISLAND in Glorious Quicktime.
This looks like Scorsese's return to the B-movie playground of CAPE FEAR, and I can't wait to get back home to sort through this trailer frame-by-frame - if only to appreciate the always-brilliant work of cinematographer Robert Richardson (I'm getting a vague BLACK NARCISSUS vibe from the shot posted above). In case you're in the dark on this one, SHUTTER ISLAND is adapted from the novel by Dennis Lehane, who wrote MYSTIC RIVER and GONE BABY GONE. Since I'm in a hurry, here's the plot summary from the Apple trailers page:
From Oscar®-winning director Martin Scorsese, “Shutter Island” is the story of two U.S. marshals, Teddy Daniels (Leonardo DiCaprio) and Chuck Aule (Mark Ruffalo), who are summoned to a remote and barren island off the coast of Massachusetts to investigate the mysterious disappearance of a murderess from the island’s fortress-like hospital for the criminally insane.

This looks like Scorsese's return to the B-movie playground of CAPE FEAR, and I can't wait to get back home to sort through this trailer frame-by-frame - if only to appreciate the always-brilliant work of cinematographer Robert Richardson (I'm getting a vague BLACK NARCISSUS vibe from the shot posted above). In case you're in the dark on this one, SHUTTER ISLAND is adapted from the novel by Dennis Lehane, who wrote MYSTIC RIVER and GONE BABY GONE. Since I'm in a hurry, here's the plot summary from the Apple trailers page:
From Oscar®-winning director Martin Scorsese, “Shutter Island” is the story of two U.S. marshals, Teddy Daniels (Leonardo DiCaprio) and Chuck Aule (Mark Ruffalo), who are summoned to a remote and barren island off the coast of Massachusetts to investigate the mysterious disappearance of a murderess from the island’s fortress-like hospital for the criminally insane.
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...but it sure smells good!
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I've read half the novel so far, seems to stay true to the source.
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which is a good thing.
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"Hey, I'm essentially useless so I'll post something from the Apple sight that you probably already found on your own thus proving I'm the vestigial tail of AICN." Can we do better than trailers and news from other sites? The AICN crew use to be fanboy scoundrels who hunted down scoops. Now its all insider gossip and stale news. Anyway, Scorcese needs to get back on coke and make more mob movies.
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The book was good, not as good as Mystic River or the Kenzie/Gennaro stuff...but entertaining enough. I'll see this, but I want a better rendering of the Kenzie/Gennaro novels than what Gone, Baby, Gone gave us.
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I've been waiting for this film.
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Once again we are subjected to a trailer that gives away almost every plot point and "surprise" twist. Avoid it if you want to stay spoiler-free. You've been warned...
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Will be seeing this one.
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The trailer is kind of spoiler-heavy.
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WHAT?......This not a reboot, re-imagining, prequel, sequel, base off a comic book, anime, children's toy or bubble gum wrapper character AWWWWWWW HEEELLLL NAW epic fail... this will never compete with Paul Blart. They should have got Bay or Abrams to make this.
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...Always a good thing.
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I saw the twist from the beginning and spent the rest of the book hoping I was wrong.
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versatile marty!
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I have not read the book or anything, but I've been intrigued by this ever since I heard about it. Leo's casting was a big surprise, but besides that it seems the subject matter is at the very least an interesting combination for Scorsese. I have high hopes for her...although that has rarely paid off before.
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Other than music documentary films almost everything is very serious or dark in humor (the brilliant nightmare comedy "After Hours," for example). This isn't lowering yourself for a somewhat cliche B movie, it's a great director deciding to have fun with a somewhat cliche B movie. It'll be the best shot, edited, and acted cliche B movie you've ever seen, too.
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and that's a word I almost never use about Scorcese movies. They're usually pretty blah as far as I'm concerned. I hope it's not just the trailer.
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or a remake?
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...was a piece of shit. Just sayin'. I read it and wondered what Scorsese could possibly want to do with it.
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this actually looks good..keep up the good work marty.
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Jun 10, 2009 9:14:47 PM CDT
Holy shit Michelle looks entirely fuckable in this!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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Hate to say it, but it's true. Still, Scorcese has the ability to transcend the source material much of the time (even if The Departed was overrated--mainly because the ending was bullshit).
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Anything that Lehane writes in novel form that becomes a movie is superb. I have nothing bad to say about Mystic River, absolutely nothing bad to say about Gone Baby Gone. Keep writing Lehane, so we can see good films from now on.
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@JackieJokeman: I felt exactly the same, hoping in vain that the twist can't possibly be that lame. Lehane's other books are excellent, this made Shutter Island even more disappointing.
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... and I haven't read the book or anything.
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haven't read the book so can't wait to sit back and watch a good story unravel - something which seems to be a rarity in hollywood recently.
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Hoping that it's not a Sixth Sense/The Others type thing.
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Not the best book I've ever read, but it has a decent enough story, and even though I felt like I should have caught the twist earlier than I did, it was still fun enough. Only read it because I heard Scorsese was adapting, but still. Great trailer, very faithful to the book. Very much anticipating this.
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Haven't read the book but since there's an insane murderess I suppose she's saying "go ahead you can trust me give me your hand (sucker)"
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My favorite cinematographer ever! Snow Falling On Cedars is the most stunningly beautiful film I've ever had the fortune to set my gaze upon, oh how I wish he'd reunite with Scott Hicks again. I'd go see this just for the Richardson, even if Lee Tamahori was the director, But Scorsese...I'm there no questions asked (Although how awesome would Adrian Lyne have been? Pretty darn, I think.). Now Oliver Stone get your act together and bring on Pinkville already!
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This looks like Dogshit
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Kingsley, Von Sydow, Ted Levine...I'll have to check it out
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The twist is pretty obvious. Pass.
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Bruce Willis was dead the whole time and he's a ghost!
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Yeah, DiCaprio in a Scorcese movie?!?! Who can believe it?
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Seriously, love or hate his last ten years, but the guy is making the most wonderful, watchable flicks these days.
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Which is great. Some critics sniffed that Scorsese was somehow "slumming" with that movie, but, dammit, MORE "B" movies should be as brilliantly shot, edited, scored and performed as that film was. Shutter Island looks grrrrrrrrrrrreat.
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BUT THE DAMN TRAILER GIVES AWAY WAY TOO MUCH!SHIT FOR BRAINS TRAILER-MAKERS!
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Just sayin'
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Normally I would have zero interest in a movie like this (doesn't one come out every week?) but even if it's a generic thriller/horror story, Marty'll make it interesting. I just re-watched The Departed on Blu-Ray this weekend and I can't get over how impressive that film is visually and aurally--he knows how to frame and light a shot, and he knows what music to have going in the background. For him to have been in the business as long as he has and still be making films worth talking about is truly impressive. They don't all hit it out of the ballpark, but they're all at least worth seeing and discussing.
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and im sorry, but dicaprio is totally overacting...this wasnt the role for him
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so lahane channeled m night shamalamadingdong while writing it? too bad
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Oof that looks like a good movie.. With this and "The Road", fall is going to be a good time for film!
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i like it when scorsese slums or just has fun. he is fucking brilliant. pure film making. and i love the time period it takes place in. i have one wish before i die. which is for martin scorsese to make a western. if he made a western that is scorsese running on all cylinders, i believe hollywood could just stop making movies period. there would me no point after that. tell me i'm wrong.
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Doesn't look like a Scorsese movie at all, except for the polished professional sheen and the great visuals. Does the plot remind anyone of "The Wicker Man"?
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Which is AWESOME, by the way.
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Will be seeing this upon release.
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and I immediately thought of Cape Fear... which I really enjoyed. Count me in for this.
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Never work. This looks like The Haunted and 1408, both sucked. They look just too glossy and nice.
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Jun 11, 2009 12:49:38 AM CDT
I can't wait to get back home to sort through this trailer frame
by gqtaste
and again. The folks that write for this site are really depressing. Sadly you do probably have enough time on your hands to watch a f'ing trailer countless times. How old are you dude? b/c if you're over the age of 17 then you're too old to being doing that type of shit. I realize your nothing but a bunch of dipshits but come on, lay off film from time to time. Attempt to get some pussy every once in a while. At least try new endeavors a few times a year.
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Jun 11, 2009 12:55:02 AM CDT
Its clearly Hichcock influenced, that is enough for me. Looks gr
by fisheater
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whatever happened to his George Harrison doc? That's something I'd love to see.
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Gosh, that looks good. I got the Hitchcock vibe too. Leo! I'm afraid for his character. I can't wait to see this!
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At 1:41, that great character actor, Elias Koteas, sitting with blood on his face. When I first saw him I thought it was DeNiro in a surprise cameo.
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is completely spoiling the film for anyone who isn't legally retarded.
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Sadly you apparently like to waste your time being a douche bag
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Is so, so fantastic. Perfectly raw. I love Scorsese's Cape Fear, and can't wait for this.
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Because we all know that when a story takes place around an insane asylum...things are...not...as...they seem. See: The Ninth Configuration.
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Such a great character and performance that generally gets overlooked in his body of work.
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seen the trailer = seen the film
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The other half is him yelling a bunch of fuckin' gibberish with his face looking like a pizza.
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Don't make me go OLEG on your ass, caruso!
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how dare he?!
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it's just nasty
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Good cast Scorsese's assembled there, looking forward to this.
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...is fucking perfection.
The rest of the film has its ups and downs. Like I don't know if this is supposed to be a serious movie or a fucking spoof. The entire houseboat climax is ridiculous.
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i second this theory
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I like the hitchcock, powell and pressberger feel to it.
it looks heavily psychological
I would defnitely not consider this a "one for them". Whereas his last two films were definitely made for Hollywood
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yet somehow that trailer layed it all out, seems somewhat predictable.
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what on earth about this movie screams "B-movie"? sorry but I don't get it....
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till now. Damn, that's looking promising.
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Looked quite good though, pity they told us almost everything.
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Most obvious, telegraphed "big twist" ever.
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Ugh. And sorry, but spray-on stubble or not, I still can't take DeCaprio seriously, watching him always feels like watching a kid playing at grown-ups, somehow. Otherwise, the trailer had some nice shots but didn't get me salivating. My jury is still out on this one
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checkout what this poor bastard wrote:
"The Wicker Man + Shock Corridor + 1408 = Martin Scorsese's last film. This must stop now.
DiCraprio's catalog of horrible accents and facial hair have made him the Lon Chaney of shit sandwiches. The rest of the cast and the cinematography does look great, but that doesn't make me want to see this film. Especially when we get another trailer showing the whole fucking thing!
All this trailer was missing was flash-cuts to black and a heartbeat, but even then it would have no soul behind it. Please Marty, stop casting Leotardo or I will burn every "picture" of yours
I own with the exceptions of Taxi Driver and Bringing Out The Dead. Not out of respect for you, but for Paul Schrader's writing. You are nothing without his voice and you have lost your fucking mind."
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Scorsese does Horror? Nice. If you don't think early to mid-twentieth century insane asylums are creepy then you, sir or madam, are one of the fuckin' patients.
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Did you really see it from the beginning?? Really?? Wow!!! You are totally awesome!!!! Can I be your friend????????????? Please?!?!?!?!?
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Jun 11, 2009 8:05:32 AM CDT
Max Von Sydow - Awesome! Is this a Ninth Configuration?
by lanemyersclassic
I automatically thought of the Ninth Configuration when I saw the trailer. I hope not, because then I already know the major spoiler. Great to see Max Von Sydow still working. Wow, from The Virgin Spring to this - Amazing!!
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...need to get your shit together. Seriously, having not read the book, I wasn't spoiled at all. All I understood from the trailer was that Di Caprio and Ruffalo or on the island investing that chick's disappearance, something goes wrong and Leo can't leave the island and starts losing his mind. It's obvious there's a twist, and I've had one or two theories about it, but to someone who hasn't read the book, that trailer doesn't spoil the entire movie in any way.
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I read the book and guessed the twist about 50-100 pages in. The rest of the time reading the book, all I could think was, no, don;t do it, it's stupid and predictable and betrays the story. The twist sucks and this trailer gives away A LOT!!!!!!! However, Scoses and DiCaprio are just one step down from Scorsese and DeNiro. I will go see it because uit will be an incredible movie. Just be forewarned the ending sucks!!! *****SPOILER WARNING****** LaneMyersClassic, the Ninth Configuration, good movie, stupid twist at the end, know what I mean?
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A horrible story told by an expert story-teller.
I have not read the book but the trailer has a lot to say (as has already been mentioned above, it shows too much information). The whole 'doctors messing with the detective's head', hallucintions, 'suspect-with-a-heart-of-gold', everything seems a bit too cliché. -
Also, I don't believe it's exactly like "Ninth," because that movie had a broader political message, whereas this one looks like a more narrow, personal story. I was just referring to the setting and the "twist".
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This book is not the best that Lehane has to offer. The twist at the end comes as no surprise and I am sure most of you have all ready figured it out. Basically, this will be yet another film where we get to watch DiCaprio try to act and accomplish nothing but looking like he is trying to take a really big shit for two hours. That's how I felt watching him in The Departed (what an overrated film); that he was either trying to force out the biggest turd ever recorded in human history, ir was about to have a heart attack.
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Is 100% right. Lehane's worst book, backed by a gimmick that couldn't support a decent short story. I love Lehane, but I'm disappointed to no end that this is the novel of his that gets the Scorsese/DiCaprio treatment.
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quit putting this fuckhead in movies.
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is that it's a remake of Cape Fear. It's a good movie, but it's a remake of a damn near perfect film with a far more contained and scary as hell performance than the tongues screaming Robert of Martin's (think remaking Alien now with CGI, or No Country for Old Men with an over caffeinated Ray Liotta style Anton a few years from now). Highly recommend the original if you haven't seen it, it's not justa b-movie, it's a fucking intense ride of a film that had me on edge like I was watching Deliverance. It might make you hate the remake, however. It damn near did in my case. But still, Martin's Cape has its merits, but that's the real problem with it above all others.
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These are the Scorsese films I've seen: Taxi Driver/Raging Bull/Goodfellas/"parts of Cape Fear"/Casino/"parts of Bringing Out the Dead"/Gangs of New York/The Aviator/The Departed. I at least liked them all, so this should be no exception. It definitely looks good. It's nice that Scorsese is kind of doing a 180 after winning the Oscar (in the sense of doing something different). I'm hearing all this spoiler stuff, but I don't know what it is for sure. I hope it's not what I think it is. But even if it is, I'm sure it will be a good flick.
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I'm a huge Hitchcock fan, I guessed the Fight Club twist about 1/3 of the way through, and Shutter Island's ending was not all that obvious. The average moviegoer (not the movie-obsessed people here) who only sees the trailer once or twice will probably not guess anything too early in this one. You Negative Nancies here need to simmer down...
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Guessing the twist in that movie early on did NOT make it a piece of shit, or ruin my enjoyment of it... sometimes it's fun to figure things out ahead of time, and just appreciate a well-made film. I think some of you boys get insulted when a movie tries to outsmart you (and doesn't), and take it a bit too personally.
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Jun 11, 2009 10:31:52 AM CDT
They gave away too much in that trailer. FACT
by t 1000 xp professional
woww too much. Speaking about ADD music videos lol I shot one. I do not approve of the trailer but shot this amateur music video nonetheless.I will get better and make you guys proud one day :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce0ml7ZERdc (take out spaces) this is the last time I plug lol
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. . . WITHOUT Bob & Doug Mackenzie?!?! EPIC FAIL!!!!! ;-)
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Haven't read the book, just heard about the premise. The twist, or that there is some kind of twist, was obvious to me. I'm going to see this shit for Scorsese's and Richardson's filmmaking. Just look at that composition!
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Are you serious? This and Public Enemies are my must-sees of the year.
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Yes, you are. Thisw movie does have a political bend to it as well, just more along the lines of how war affects men. Actually, if Lehane would have stuck with the dialogue between the two leads regarding the war and its afteraffects, this would have been one compelling book. At those points in the book, it sings. As far as not letting a plot twist ruin the movie. It's the gimmicky and illogical cheat that does derail what is a good stroy and a decent mystery here. Lehane is a good writer when you consider that he is a best-selling mystery writer. This book just derails. However, Scorsese is the best; he is a master storyteller and he will get my money as he always does. I'm interseted to see how he deals with this twist. It's kind of odd that he chose this book, it's kind of a thankless task making it all plausible. The vibe seems to be there in the trailer, very creepy place, and Scorsese and his always top-notch vision and cinematography make this look cool. Again, I know where it's going and i don;t like it, but I have no reason to bail on Marty, he's given us all so much over the years and despite fanboys constant criticism has made some of his best career movies in recent years with his new muse. Now get DeNiro back on the fucking screen with Leo and Marty and let's see if he can remember what it once meant to ACT! Goddamn, I miss DeNiro, what the hell was his last blow you away performance, Guilty by Suspicion?
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If not the best... Seen it a billion times and it never gets old... I dont know how anyone could have a problem with it... If this new movie is half the film Cape Fear is, I'll be on-line opening night... However, I'm still not sold on DiCaprio being Scorsese's next DeNiro... He's alright but I dont see the big deal about the guy...
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Jun 11, 2009 12:12:55 PM CDT
About the twist (widespread spoiler alert for this and a LOT of
by neosamurai85
(NOTE: widespread spoiler alert for this and a LOT of other movies, non-cinephiles be warned!)
(Also if this doesn't paragraph break will someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong.)
There is nothing wrong with a twist ending, but there is a particular kind of twist ending that has been very abused lately: the it's all in my head twist. It worked in Fight Club in part because it was relatively fresh, however, it also made a lot of sense to the overall message of the film, which was complex and incorporated it for more than a surprise. The novel revealed it much earlier on, making it much less of a twist and more the setting of the story. In other films, this has not been as clear or at least as important to the message and workings of the story. Instead, it is mostly for the surprise! To varying degrees we can see this with The Sixth Sense, in that while it fit consistently with the structure of the story, it ultimately felt more like a function of suspense than something with deeper commentary. Granted, that's debatable. It's certainly tipping over the edge more than plummeting, but what would fallow it was often much harder to defend. It's success popularized these kind of films hanging on the surprise of it all being in the character's head. High Tension is the extreme in which the twist is utter bullshit and compromises the entire integrity of the film, but along the way films like Hide and Seek and Secret Window, just sorta function flaccidly, but in the end they reveal the ultimate problem with what the "it's all in your head" twist has become: it is simply a step up from the "it was all a dream" twist. Like the it's all a dream, it's ultimately a cop-out. A film now and then can do it, OZ got away with it, but without some deeper significance to the delusion, some function and method to the duality of what one sees and what one is and the parts of one's self they project as someone or something else to keep from facing it within them, then it's just a cop-out from devising an actual clever ending that pays off all the build up. It's a bad writer's toy, and that's why fans hate it: not because we are uber-intellectuals who spot it early on and can't get anything out of it, but because it often signals that there is little to nothing to get out of it. Peace. -
One of my favorite black comedies.
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The closest we'll get to Marty directing a Batman film.
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oh and read the book..it's Leo..SNAP
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Jun 11, 2009 1:29:13 PM CDT
I'll go public with my distaste for Scorsese's Cape Fear
by royston lodge
I thought everything was just way too over-the-top, Juliette Lewis wasn't nearly virginal enough for that role, and Nick Nolte wasn't squeaky-clean enough.
The original felt so much more sinister, because Gregory Peck doesn't have a dark bone in his body, the wife and daughter were paragons of 1950s virtue, and Robert Mitchum's psychopathy was mostly kept just below the surface rather than being thrown in your face.
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in that trailer? I think I did.
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I didn't read anything before going into it and didn't even know there was going to be twist. Knocked my fucking socks off because it surprised me so much! For reference, I usually guess a lot of these movie "twists" early on - Sixth Sense and Usual Suspects come to mind - ask my wife. Another one I didn't see coming was Crying Game - I saw that in the theater when it first came out. Siskel and Ebert reviewed it and said there was something so surprising in the film, they weren't going to talk about it anymore. They never used the term "twist", but their gushing over it piqued my interest. Credit Jordan for manipulating me, 'cause I never saw it coming - even being prepared for something "surprising."
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For more Mitchum love (if you haven't seen it already) check out Night of the Hunter. Very odd film, that's utterly brilliant. God I love evil Mitchum roles.
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that's all
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I have added it to my ZipList (Zip.ca being the Canadian equivalent of NetFlix).
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Worked well at what? At surprising you? Well, yeah. But go back through it. I'll give M. Night one thing, he got consistency. You go back through Six Sense and it does make sense. High Tension doesn't. The car chase, where the van comes from... there are so many things that between the girl and the killer that simply do not work unless there are two people. There is too much at play. Too much build up between them, and then nothing. Yes, I get the idea of the love, and there is an interesting idea there about love and creating monsters to save the damsel in distress from... the idea that to be the hero you must first have the princess bound and suffering, that that is a part of the fantasy. That's all fine. But it dosn't work like that. The idea isn't followed through with a structure that fits it. It's surprising because it dosn't make sense at all given the information we've received. It simply breaks the rules it lays out and expects us to accept the gaping wound of a plot because it sucker punched us, but it essentially sucker punched us with its third arm. Humans don't have a third arm! (The blind gunfighter doesn't count.) As for Crying Game, that's different. On the most basic level it's different because it is not an "it's all in your head" twist, which is entirely what my post was about. It's a twist, but I'm not anti-twist, just cheap ones. I knew the twist going in so I can't say if it works or not (she looked obvious to me... in fact the thing I couldn't stand about the film is I never saw what he saw in her, since she was such a whiny needy spoiled diva) but the point wasn't the shock anyway. The movie goes on for a while after that and the surprise is relevant to the film in a larger way than just startling you.
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That is one evil and dark son of a bitch. Anyone who hasn't seen Night of the Hunter...holy fuck...go buy that shit! Mitchum in Cape Fear was pretty fucking twisted too but he doesn't compare to what Bobby D. did with tat role. DeNiro WAS Max Cady, he simply WAS that rotten prick. Marty's Cape Fear does have some failings, especially with the passage of time. Most of all, Juliette Lewis. I know Brad Pitt had some mad love for that freaky deaky but she just weirds me out. I think that casting her was one of, if not the, biggest casting mistake of Scorsese's career. She just didn;t work for me on so many levels. Yes, she should have been more angelic and virginal, but I understand why Scorsese went with the direction for the character tat he did. Unfortunately, he went that way with Juliette Lewis. Now, put her in Natural Born Killers or even kalifornia to a lesser degree and it works. The young, budding pubescence of Nick Nolte and Jessica Lange in idyllic suburban America? Not so much. I thought Nolte and Lange were spot-on. Nolte always delivers and Lange just needed to show up looking sweaty and milfy, which she did just fine. I think Scorsese should have just made it his own movie. The nod to that genre of film and more to the point, Hitchcock was cool and all, but the story needed more freshness. All in all, it was a good Scrosese movie with a blow your fucking brains out bat-shit crazy classic performance by DeNiro. One of his last really great ones. Not perfect Scorsese, but not bad Scorsese either. Why it gets so much hate, I don't understand. It worked and he did all he set out to do with it, his choices just limited the film. Someone up there mentioned After Hours as one of the most underrated movies out there. Hell Yeah! Also, Bringing Out The Dead was hailed by a lot of people as a masterpiece when it hit theaters and seems forgotten now. Why is that? That movie was psychotic in its brilliance. Why can;t there be more Scorsese's out there? Why can't his movies make more money, urging studios to greenlight actual artists behind the camera instead of McG probably getting one more shot at Terminator? The world is a fucked up place when you think about it. Thank God we still ave Marty around to remind us.
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Jun 11, 2009 2:41:35 PM CDT
High Tension was refreshing in the genre of the slasher film.
by lanemyersclassic
Neosamourai, you're getting confused - High tension was not intended to be high art. It was intended to be a different take on the slasher film - of which I have seen countless. It achieved its fresh perspective BRILLIANTLY. You want to go back and analyze every scene, I can do the same and say the killer was there in every scene - either physically or mentally. It was a thrilling, shocking film - I'm not the only one who believes this, but at the same time it was still a slasher film.
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Anyway, as for the film this discussions about, I hope it's not an all in your head twist if for no other reason than I'm tired of them, but if it is I hope it's more in the vein of how Marty dealt with delusion in King of Comedy, another goofy gem from his book. Of course, I don't mean make it a comedy, just get past the twisting of it and deal more with the madness part. Most of these films get to the part where we find out the guy or girl is mad and then that's the end, it's more fun when you go on into that Hour of the Wolf world. Either way, I didn't realize this was going to be so horror movie-esque, if not a flat out horror movie. That's great! I'd love to see him play in the horror realm.
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not LaneMyersClassic
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so I'll check this one out.
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Putting "brilliant" in caps does not make something brilliant. Secondly, I hate it when people throw the high art argument the moment someone brings up logistics. I too have seen a slasher film and some of the earliest examples of the genre are Psycho and Peeping Tom, followed by films like Black Christmas and continuing with Halloween and Candyman. Were there others inbeteen? Oh god yeah, tons of them. Some good and a lot that suck, but don't give me the it's a slasher film, it's not supposed to be intelligent argument, because that's why shit like Hatchet makes a buck. Just like how for every Die Hard or Hard Boiled there's a dozen action movies that suck horribly, doesn't mean don't call bullshit when someone uses shaky cam to hide bad choreography. It's a slasher film second. Also, I'm critical of it because it posed to step up. The first three thirds were solid. It was a slasher film being done right, damn right, and then the ending went bullshit. Oh and there's nothing fresh about that twist either, in essence it's just a variation of everything from Psycho to Friday the 13th to Deep Red to Sleepaway Camp to... it goes on and on. It's an old trick done poorly. You say you can call show where the killer was at any time? Ok. My point before: Nut girl is driving damsel girl's car, Damsel girl is in front of her in the Mystery Van, we see several scenes with damsel girl alone in Mystery van, they are from Damsel girl's POV, thus suggesting they are real, that the van is real (so where the hell did this van come from?) yet we also see the damsel's car in several scenes indicating it's reality in the chase. So please, enlighten me on how the killer is driving both cars.
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I saw Panic in the Streets last Saturday. Man, Jack Palance is f-u-c-k-e-d up in that!
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. . . I'm surprised we haven't heard that any of the studios plan to remake Panic in the Streets. It seems like the perfect sort of plot for a cheap-ass remake, profiting from 21st century swine flu paranoia.
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Damsel girl is in front of her (nut girl) in the BACK of the mystery van.
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between the original Cape Fear and the remake... I actually love the remake because Nolte's family ISN'T perfect. It makes him more human and more sympathetic as a character. I mean his family can fall apart any second even BEFORE DeNiro walks into that movie theater!!! The odds are against him and his family surviving in every way, shape, and form. The remake is over-the-top but I think thats what a remake SHOULD be (especially since our shock levels have increased since the 50s). In the 90s, you kinda have to have Max Cady biting girls faces, pouring wax on himself, and talking to the camera while giving Nolte a mock trial, etc. A remake should expand everything the original did. The only part of the original that I thought was better was the fact that the daughter is SOOOO young looking. She looks like she's 10 for crying out loud. Mitchum going after her is about as creepy as you can get. Juliette Lewis just acts like she's 10...
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Jun 11, 2009 3:50:07 PM CDT
I hate it when people pick and choose the logistics they want to
by lanemyersclassic
But you know what, you have a right to do it, 'cause that's your opinion. Don't call the something bullshit and then expect no one to contest it. I said BRILLIANT in all caps because that is how strongly I admire the quality of the film. Your arguments against "twists in the mind" make all of my arguments to love this film and buy into the motivations and the machinations of the characters and the story. I point out that it's not high art, because I really do believe you are over analyzing a slasher film. I love all the films you mentioned, but none of those are the same as this film. The "all in the mind twist" was only a part of the whole package. the cinematography, direction and atmosphere were done BRILLIANTLY and the icing on the cake (for me) was the twist. You felt cheated, I felt thrilled. Believe it or not, I am very critical of films that don't follow a sense of logic, be it inside or outside of the film itself. This film did absolutely fine with what turned out to be its own sense of twisted logic.
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Weird I can buy him playing a cop in The Departed yet for some reason I'm having some difficulty with this one. I suppose its because this one is carrying some degree of experience with him and I'm having trouble buying it. He just doesn't look hard-boiled enough. Then again, I was wrong about Casey Affleck so that shows just how much I know.
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Neosamurai I agree with your views on the all-in-their head plot device that is often a machination in strong (Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge and Sixth Sense) and weak (Haute Tension) works of fiction. As with any work of fantasy one has to delve into varying degrees of verisimilitude to fully engage the story. Without it, you are simply not partaking in the moment. In the celluloid events unfolding on screen before you. Part of the verisimilitude contract is accepting the line of logic by the world the movie lives in. Nothing pisses me off more when the movie betrays the line of logic that it uses at the end by throwing the All-in-the-head contrivance up on the screen in an a off the wall, nonsensical manner like in Haute Tension. It is like going to Ruth Chris and ordering a 20 ounce Porter and having the waiter describe the cut in amazing, mouth watering detail and then when he brings you your order it is a plate of bean sprouts and says, "That is what I described and what you ordered." That is what poor movie logic is like. I know it is just my opinion but I did feel cheated with Tension. It was a waste of what was a good build up. LaneMyer calls you out for picking and choosing specific scenes that support your statements for dismissing HT but isn't that what debating is all about?
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You moron! Anyone can get another ID on this site. You don't have to get another person to prove your point. Many people liked it, many people didn't. I suspect you knew the twist going into it and maybe that took away from the experience. I call bullshit on your bullshit!
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...before watching the apparently spoilerific trailer. That screencap is very pretty, tho. This is the first I've heard of this and I gotta say, it looks pretty good. Oh, and 'After Hours' IS my favorite Scorsese film. 'I'm probably gonna get blamed for that.'
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Oh my god. That's a first. Email Harry. Have them check on me for abuse. I've been on this site talkbacking since AVP was being talked about as possibly AVP in the Hood (sometime between 1999 and 2000). I'm not PsimonSez. I'm sorry to break this to you, but some people might actually agree with my opinion. I know that next to your utter brilliance that is difficult to understand, but it's the case. Heaven help you if you search through the archives for the reviews from people on this site, it might blow your mind.
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This movie looks fucking awesome but, once again, in swan the fucking marketing department who decide to show you the ENTIRE fucking movie in one trailer.I don't need to read this TB or even the book to guess the fucking ending on this one, thanks to the fuckwits who put this trailer together.In fact, I probably won't go and see it now despite the fact it looks good. What's the point if I already know the ending? Someone needs to do something about this. It's a problem that's getting worse every year. Utter fuckwitness.
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since before I even started posting. Don't try and corrupt him with your filthy online tricks!
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...the same person(?!?!?!)just typing from two completely different computers. And though not as a prolific poster as Neo I have been a denizen here for multiple years as well. I agreed with him on HT. That twist, no matter how it it is spun, does not fit in the logic framework of the movie. It simply does not.
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