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'Haters Beware! ' Final REVENGE OF THE FALLEN Robot Count!! Plus IMAX Edit Of Film = Even More Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Bayhem!!
Merrick here...
The information below, straight from Mister Bay, purty much speaks for itself.
Via a thread on his Shoot For The Edit site (HERE):
Hey everyone,
In Japan today. After a month and half seven days a week most days going till midnight me and my crew have just about finished Transformers. I have never seen such a level of dedication from every crew member in a movie before.
Even today after the press in Japan and right before the premiere tonight, I have to sneak out to a digital house to approve the last few effect shots.
It has been a long hard road, but really fun one to travel. What you will notice that is strikingly different than Transformers 1, is the level of animation detail. The robot characters (42 in all), you really can feel empathy for them. What is also very different is the sheer scale of the movie. We have been very tight holding back much of the best imagery in commercials and trailers.
The way to see this movie is on IMAX. Never before has there been 4k rendered character animation shot on full IMAX 70 mm film. This is a first and the results are stunning. You will see Optimus Prime in a few shots where he is actually perfectly to scale on the IMAX 50 foot tall screens.
For IMAX, I created a slightly longer cut with more robot fighting. Four scenes were shot on IMAX cameras so the screen will fill the full IMAX screen for these scenes.
Haters beware.
Michael
In Japan today. After a month and half seven days a week most days going till midnight me and my crew have just about finished Transformers. I have never seen such a level of dedication from every crew member in a movie before.
Even today after the press in Japan and right before the premiere tonight, I have to sneak out to a digital house to approve the last few effect shots.
It has been a long hard road, but really fun one to travel. What you will notice that is strikingly different than Transformers 1, is the level of animation detail. The robot characters (42 in all), you really can feel empathy for them. What is also very different is the sheer scale of the movie. We have been very tight holding back much of the best imagery in commercials and trailers.
The way to see this movie is on IMAX. Never before has there been 4k rendered character animation shot on full IMAX 70 mm film. This is a first and the results are stunning. You will see Optimus Prime in a few shots where he is actually perfectly to scale on the IMAX 50 foot tall screens.
For IMAX, I created a slightly longer cut with more robot fighting. Four scenes were shot on IMAX cameras so the screen will fill the full IMAX screen for these scenes.
Haters beware.
Michael
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Wow, I got a first on a Transformers 2 article. Why am I impressed by this? Transformers is one of the worst films I have ever had to sit through (a film so bad that it melted the celluloid when I saw it at the cinema).
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Can't wait
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he extended the first movie for the IMAX version as well. although i hope this time its more than like 3minutes of pointless additions. either way i was seeing this in IMAX anyway.
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so my kid and i will be there opening day at a real IMAX screen.
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I will be watching it on IMAX. Probably twice. With a large popcorn and Cherry coke. The way God intended.
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This patronising 'Haters beware' rubbish, as if it is somehow 'cool' to make the movie equivalent of a Big Mac, and people that don't want to put such crap in their mouths are somehow snobs.
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Jun 08, 2009 11:55:39 AM CDT
MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE IMAX THEATER ONLY SHOWS EDUCATIONAL FILMS!
by digital8
I hate it.
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For making some entertaining pieces of flash. The first Transformers really wasn't bad at all, not sure what all the crying is about. It's not like Bumblebee turned into the Bay equivelant of Jar Jar Binks. This movie is gonna rock and blow away everything else put on screen this summer. So far I've survived (barely) Terminator and Land of the Lost, this new Bay extraveganza should make up for it.
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For making some entertaining pieces of flash. The first Transformers really wasn't bad at all, not sure what all the crying is about. It's not like Bumblebee turned into the Bay equivelant of Jar Jar Binks. This movie is gonna rock and blow away everything else put on screen this summer. So far I've survived (barely) Terminator and Land of the Lost, this new Bay extraveganza should make up for it.
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'it's just a fun popcorn' movie really irritate me too. As if you can't be fun and quality at the same time.
Remember Speilberg at his best? Jaws, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones. THAT'S how you make great fun entertainment that lasts the test of time. When CGI improves in a couple of years no one will be re-watching Transformers, but people will watch quality like Jaws forever. -
Bay took a third-rate cartoon and made an eye-raping blockbuster. Looks like he'll do it again. All you haters better just stay home with your therapist and point to where the bad Mr. Bay touched your action figures.
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I like the 'haters beware' comment.
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Mecha Godzilla, Smog Monster, King Kong and Matthew Broderick. I enjoyed Transformers... I'll definately be checking out the Bayhem!
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and if you can name more than 2 transformer, shoot yourself in the face
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Bitching about Transformers' CGI and then using Jurassic Park as an example of high cinema.
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A shitty movie is about to be over-hyped/over-praised because people are entertainment starved.
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I'll be taking my kid to see it.
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Everyone who's hating on transformers forgets to realize that this was a saturday morning cartoon for christs sake. The fact that Bay was able to create this without going Jar Jar Binks was a relief. I'm not saying it's perfect but give the guy a break ... i was entertained.
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There is an IMAX in Little Rock if you want to take the drive.
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Did Optimus get nipples this time??
Actually I loved the first film, I have on pre-order a Camaro which I will be hopefully getting just in time for the movie. It will be built next week and two weeks later it ships..Cutting it close but it will be soon.. I am looking forward to this movie if for nothing else, being able to see amazing CGI that is unparalleled and beautiful. There are a heck of a lot of Transformers in this and I do hope the movie doesn't suck because of it like X-Men III did.. -
The Summer Movie I MUST SEE IN IMAX.
Thanks Michael for bringing giant battling robots to the 50' tall silver screen. -
Fifty foot screens? Aren't real IMAX screens seventy feet?
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Don't condescend to people who want characters you can care about in their films. Learn how to create actual tension. Learn how to shoot action. Learn how to create a sense of awe and wonder. Learn how to create a third dimension for the humans in your films. Stop making feature length commercials and then we will stop hating. Until then, fuck off.
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I guess I'm a hater, but I'm not sure what I am supposed to "beware." Atrocious character development and dialogue?
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A sucker defends shit on a stick and sniffs it as if it smelled like a bed of roses.
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Bay blatantly plugs Imax and then pushes Imax by putting in more footage in the Imax version of the film? Not that I give a shit about Transformers, but do you people have any idea what a disturbing trend this is? Can you imagine what will happen if this takes off? Where is all that talkbacker hate now that you all finally have a good reason to be angry. Did you use it all up on Scriptgirl?
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I would've given it a pass if the action was coherent and it didn't feature shitty attempts at comedy. Honestly, I would have. I'm not a Shia fan but he did the best he could with what he was given. I'm really surprised on a site like this that people give the first movie a pass. I'm not talking about staying true to the original series, I'm talking as an actual good piece of filmmaking, which it isn't. Whatever, this will be the top grossing movie of the year probably.
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... are still shit designs. And providing extra footage of these shit designs is just rubbing salt in the wound.
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It's funny to me that, for all the money spent on these movies, the much-maligned "excuse to sell toys" cartoon series/movie actually managed to be a much more entertaining piece of popcorn fluff than what Bay achieved with the GDP of several small countries and Spielberg producing. It actually takes talent to suck that badly. And yes, even without the rose-colored hindsight of nostalgia, and with the addition of Stan Bush, the cartoon movie was a much better movie than Bayformers. Suck it, Trebek; Nash out.
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Good God... I mean... how? Is there a full on robot battle with sides charging at each other ala Braveheart in the end? Or is there a swarm of Insecticons... hmmmm... there is that shot of like 20 insecticons transforming in the tv ads...
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He really put me in my place! I'm so dismayed. I couldn't possibly have legitimate, rational reasons of personal taste that caused me to view Transformers as a complete pile of dung. No, I'm just a "hater."
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THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!
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They think that by coming here and bitching incessantly that they will somehow change things. You hate the movie? Fine. You hate Bay? Fine. You have abnormally small genitalia? Fine. Doesn't mean we want to hear about it. The fact is the first movie rocked and made a ton of money, and this movie will probably make even more. Some people think they're only 'cool' if they hate what everyone else loves. Have fun being miserable, douchebags.
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because they aren't going to see this piece of shit. And nice M&M ad in the Entertainment Weekly, Mikey. Douchebag. (the one where Michael Bay is CGI'd into an M&M character).
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Jun 08, 2009 12:21:11 PM CDT
Bay's butchery of the English language is almost as bad as...
by mr. nice gaius
...AssimovLives'.My god...could they be...one and the same?!
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Jun 08, 2009 12:21:40 PM CDT
Cool. THERE IS JUST NO SUCH THING AS IMAX WHERE I AM!!!
by derlanghaarige
And even if I belong to the people who liked the first movie, I definitely won't sit 4 hours in a train, just to get to one of the two or three Imax theatres we got over here.
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That's what we have to beware from this arrogant no-talent hack.
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Now I'm completely devastated. Googamooga said I have a small penis!
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http://tinyurl.com/l89g6x
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I said you have an "abnormally small" penis. Get it right.
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What was the point of the original cartoon past the first season?
They fought for Energon cubes for the entire run on television. Yeah sure they had installments where they introduced the Dinobots, The Constucticons and other toys. The show was a one trick pony.
If you thought Shia was a bit much with Bumblebee in the movie, revisit the cartoon and watch how quick you throw up gummy bears.
For as many battles the Autobots and Decepticons had, nobody was ever hit. The shit was cool when your ten years old but it wasn't perfect.
It amazes how many people that are out here pissed because Micheal Bay is doing the Transformer's movies when actually he in my opinion is the most logical choice. This guy made a career off of blowing things up on a spectacular scale, you couldve inserted giant robots in any of his madness and it would've added to the Bay experience.
Now this is America and everyone has a right to express they're opinion but if you feel that strongly, save your money. But don't go see it and come back on Aintitcool talking bout how crappy it was. Especially when you know you were one of the first in line for a midnight showing and you enjoyed it. -
What was the point of the original cartoon past the first season?
They fought for Energon cubes for the entire run on television. Yeah sure they had installments where they introduced the Dinobots, The Constucticons and other toys. The show was a one trick pony.
If you thought Shia was a bit much with Bumblebee in the movie, revisit the cartoon and watch how quick you throw up gummy bears.
For as many battles the Autobots and Decepticons had, nobody was ever hit. The shit was cool when your ten years old but it wasn't perfect.
It amazes how many people that are out here pissed because Micheal Bay is doing the Transformer's movies when actually he in my opinion is the most logical choice. This guy made a career off of blowing things up on a spectacular scale, you couldve inserted giant robots in any of his madness and it would've added to the Bay experience.
Now this is America and everyone has a right to express they're opinion but if you feel that strongly, save your money. But don't go see it and come back on Aintitcool talking bout how crappy it was. Especially when you know you were one of the first in line for a midnight showing and you enjoyed it. -
I mean if Bay was trying to be down with the kids he should have added a 'Z' on the end. Everything is cooler with a 'Z' zzzzzzzz
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are fucking stupid and retarded. stop stereotyping black ppl and thinking that we want 'hot shots' of Fox... free porn is everywhere and we don't need Fox on the screen giving us sexy glances... we don't care! very simple. go watch some of your counter-parts movies and learn from Finch, Cameron, Scott, etc... gawd.
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Jun 08, 2009 12:27:23 PM CDT
Some facts for the 'haters'... (I hate that word, btw...)
by googamooga
Fact Number 1: Bay has made a ton of movies.
Fact Number 2: Bay's movies have collectively made a TON of money.
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Sorry, but $200 million toy adverts made up of two hours of half-second flash cuts just don't interest me.That's not 'snobbery'. I wouldn't pay to listen to the disjointed ramblings of someone ripped to the tits on caffeine and amphetamines, so why should I pay to see the visual equivalent?Not for me, thanks. Not even with all those lingering slow-mo shots of that wannabe-Jolie bint..
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you are going to go thru the disappointment: you gonna watch it because the trailer looks good and you've already forgot that the trailer for the first one looked good too.
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I like it and I'm looking forward to the sequel, but I feel your pain- cause I outright fucking hate the Platinum Dune Remakes. I mean Michael Bay's directed films rock, but his PD stuff sucks ass.
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Who gives a shit if a movie makes money. If it sucks, it sucks.
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Didn't Elijah Wood's prod co pick up the rights to Robotech? or was I huffing again..
Always been way more down with mecha (piloted robots).
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Like Furlong and the fucking Terminator, everytime those two were on screen together I was waiting for the T-800 to have a glitch and backhand him a few times.
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So "the first movie rocked" is a fact, eh? Look, coming here and bitching about terrible movies-- or praising terrible movies-- rarely changes anything. But it's the entire point of talkback. Do you think I want to come here and read about some jackass gushing about what was by almost any account a bad movie? No, but it's talkback, I expect it, "discussing" movies is the whole reason talkback exists. If you don't want to hear about people complaining that Bay is a bad filmmaker and lamenting the fact that he is continually given more chances to ruin franchises, I would stay away from movie sites and the internet in general. Or at least be prepared to be ridiculed for having genuinely shit taste in movies. Okay, re-commence with the genitalia speculation, it's obvious your talent for debate is on par with your picks in entertainment.
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I'm not seeing this. I swear.
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Can we call Michael Bay a plant? Because... he is?
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you gonna watch itno i aint yo because the trailer looks goodno it dont and you've already forgot that the trailer for the first one looked good too. when i put my hand on a hot stove and get burned i dont do that shit again so fuck that and fuck this and fuck some other thing too.
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The fact like I like movies YOU think are crap means that I MUST be less intelligent than you. Brilliant!
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I can attack a Bay movie if I damn please. It only takes a matter of seconds and it feels good so go suck on a Bay-turd, studio apologists.
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Don't get me wrong, I like big robots...I just hate the cheese that is the Transformers license. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it, its still a little kids cartoon which was never really that good.
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might be worth $15 and two hours of wasted life.
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And I actually like some MicB's other movies. Bad Boys 1, The Rock, even Armageddon. All satisfying entertainment. But feeling "empathy" for giant alien robots that look like fancy cars? Hahahahaha
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The "haterz" ain't going nowhere. As long as Hollywood puts out half-assed entertainment the hating shall continue. Suck it, suckers.
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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because these are the funniest damn talkbacks on AICN! the level of creative hatred just cracks me up! This place should run Transformers/Bay/McG/Whedon articles all the time...
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I'll start with your mother
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isn't far. It's not far from home, and will look much better than the several LieMAX screens nearby. *now off to read first impressions from the Tokyo premiere*
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Is all. T4 is the biggest waste of space in cinema history. Transformers 2:ROTFLMMFAO will eclipse it with IMAX power. BRING IT ON!!!!
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I'll see your "Bay apologists less intelligent based on your adoration of crap" and raise you a "Bay haters must have small penises." Nice argument, numb nuts. Now all we need is a Hitler reference, and we can call it a talkback!
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Most movies have people working their asses off no doubt. Kind of a backwards way of promoting a project. Many people work their asses off to tell me what liberty I should and shouldn't have, but the end result is not something I'm happy with.
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remember that McG and Bay don't write these pieces of crap
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"We love shity movies!!! You must like them too or you'll be labeled a hater!"
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Bay 'haterz' are the film-fan equivalent of goose stepping Nazi youth. That work for you?
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No shit right? I mean only in Bay TB's does the notion of opinion and personal tastes go right out the window and are replaced with "Awesome!!!" OR "Fuck off!!!".Right? Since I wasn't riveted by the pop corn fun of the first movie I'm a "hater". Right? As in I was that way even if I never saw a single frame? That I couldn't have possible formed that as a fucking opinion without some external dogma?Are you actually serious with that bullshit?Am I the only jackass in here not still in fucking middle school? And that includes Bay?Look, kids, Mikey B, there is no accounting for taste. I'm sure you heard your parents say that when they were amongst other adults drinking that foul tasting amber liquid as they chatted through cigarette smoke about "the kids today". Basically, it means that people will like whatever they like and trying to understand it or, gasp, change it, is about as pointless an exercise as you can undertake.In crayon-speak, this translates to "you like what you like! they like what they like. nuff said! the end! yaay!!!
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talkbackers did not hate on a movie?
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Here's the thing I don't get. I was a HUGE transformers fan as a kid but looking back we can see that while it had great animation the characters were designed to be easier to animate, easier toy designs, yet people's first hater reaction was the movie desgins don't look like the cartoon. Sad...
As a kid I only dreamed of the day I would see a 2+ hour trasnformers epic with amazing special FX, PG 13 rating, and a movie the writers, director, and actors all took seriously. Does it have it's flaws? sure, I could go without the lame jokes and silly plot points but overall these movies are what I always wanted.
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That'll get your nerd rage on. :)
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The 'haters' like to complain that the first movie is/was a $200 million toy commercial. Isn't that what the crappy, cheesy, original TV show was, minus the $200 million?
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every movie made from June 2009 til the end of time will suck. movies that haven't even been concieved, much less a script written for them will suck. a blank video tape sucks. anything with explosions sucks. reading words sucks. anyone breathing sucks. chickens suck. sucking sucks. the fact that i take time to read news on a website that i loathe sucks. the fact that my opinion matters to no one but me sucks. talkbacks are the only way i can feel intelligent and cool, and that sucks. that it all...and that sucks too
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I knew we could find common ground if we tried. Now wear this piece of flair, and get in that boxcar. SCHNELL!
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typing mistakes suck.
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Quote: "The 'haters' like to complain that the first movie is/was a $200 million toy commercial. Isn't that what the crappy, cheesy, original TV show was, minus the $200 million?"Absolutely, 100% correct. This isn't even a point to be debated. Game. Set. Match.
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I just watched a few episodes of Macross Zero, and it blew me the fuck away. Best ... robot ... fight scenes ... ever!
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Jun 08, 2009 1:04:53 PM CDT
No, Cellar Door, you're not the only jackass not in middle schoo
by d.vader
But you are the only jackass here who seems to think he has an original opinion and viewpoint and needs to point it out to everyone that he's the smarter one around =).
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Who are you, because I know you got your name after reading that Dragonslayer talk in the Avatar talkback.
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If Michael Bay can't shoot an action sequence in your opinion, what director can?
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Jun 08, 2009 1:08:08 PM CDT
One things for sure, Michael Bay cannot write.
by the gospel according to bastardface
That was almost unreadable. I had to read a few sentences twice to decipher what the hell he was trying to say. He must have written it in an exhausted daze. At least I hope so.
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Bay made The Rock, a brilliantly insane and expertly cast blockbuster. He's capable of more than Transformers.
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this movie is gonna suck
How old is Megan Fox? She looks like she's already had 4 face lifts with those overly sculpted and high arching eyebrows of hers
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I just love the amount of hate that is spewed in here from both sides of the aisle. I wish there was a new TB once a day. Highlight of my day!
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Rally like the days of old. It's time to put these TRANSFORMERS TBs back in the top spot.Do it for nostalgia.Do it for Geekdom.Do it for America.Do it for the children.Do it for your children's children.Summon all ye Haterz!!! Summon all ye Apologists!!! Prepare for the glory of Bayhem!!!Ride! Ride now! Ride for ruin and the world's ending!!!DEATH!!! DEATH!!! DEATH!!!DEEEAAATTTHHH!!!
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Interestingly enough...this has parallels in racism and prejudice. If you see someone unlike yourself and you clutch your wallet/purse tighter, you're being prejudice. If you see someone unlike yourself and you kill them on site, you're being racist (presumming of course race was what was "different").Now, I'll admit to being quite prejudiced when it comes to Bay's movies but I'm not a "hater" if that is what is analogous to "racist" in my little dumbass thesis.Sure, I'm guessing a few of the "haters" hated this sight unseen I'd wager that most people just watched the movie and formed their opinions naturally. Why, would you presume differently simply because that person's opinion is unlike your own? Doesn't that speak more of your opinion and perhaps your self-deception about that opinion?I'm one of few on here who really enjoyed Lee's Hulk and most of you hated it...does that make it a sucky film for me? Of course not. Does your opinion of my opinion matter in the least in terms of my enjoying it? Not at all!For the record, I can't watch Transformers as background which makes it basically a bad film for me but I do like the action scenes, don't have any problem with how "busy" the designs are (not after seeing them...the effects work is impressive throughout) but I hate any hammy or 'wink wink' shit unless it's done in such a way that I don't just naturally role my eyes. But do you really care? Of course not. You just want me to say it sucks so you can retort with any number of predictable and boring insults based on your unwillingness to let other people have their own opinions. Or you're apt to believe that only your opinions are actually based on watching the material and not some inherent bias.
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...one was a pretty effective cartoon commercial aimed at selling toys to kids. The other was a very expensive and fundamentally flawed CGI commercial designed to sell Mountain Dew/XBox/GMC/balls of random spinning metal/ritalin to Ali G. That's the distinction that I see.
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...one was a pretty effective cartoon commercial aimed at selling toys to kids. The other was a very expensive and fundamentally flawed CGI commercial designed to sell Mountain Dew/XBox/GMC/balls of random spinning metal/ritalin to Ali G. That's the distinction that I see.
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By implying that males everywhere NEVER want to see a hot chick on film simply because porn is so readily available. Damn you and your superior Vulcan logic!
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If I could get the attention of at least one person who is not too busy trying to act cool by dissing the awesomeness of The Bay, I want to know if Harry Potter 6 on Imax is scheduled for the actual release date or if it has been delayed in Imax theatres? If Transformers 2 is only in Imax for 3 weeks I think that Bay should burn somebody to the ground. Dark Knight was in there for 3 months, and even that Day the Earth Stood Still, which ended up being the only movie I saw in Imax that wasn't improved by the experience, was in there for 2 months. Star Trek was only there for 2 whole weeks because of the scheduling which was also stupid. However, Transformers 2 actually spent more production costs to make this movie more cool for Imax, so it better freakin' be there longer than 3 weeks. If anyone knows the answer it would be appreciated.
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will be more than most third world country's annual GDP.
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I did the Theoden speech in another TB saturday night. Glad to see it make another appearance.
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to download this movie and not pay for it. Sorry, but you know it's gonna be the same crap as before, just in larger numbers and a bigger scale.
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Plot holes, horrible comedy, terrible dialogue,Linkin Park, Shita Ledouche, crappy acting, butt ugly Transformers designs, Cheesy ass director, wasted action scenes, shaky cam, ADHD editing, blatant over the top product placement, cliches,
lens flare over dramatic slow-mo scenes, slow-mo 360 hero shot, helicopters in sunset, overacting encouraged by the director, god awful stereotypes and racism, Peeing and farting Transformers, Brawl being called Devastator, Jazz's death, Transformers are props, 2 hours of Shia running around screaming NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo -
Line forms behind me & the South Park guys...
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Fuck yeah, man. I've also used the Theoden Speech a few times in the past.If anyone can motivate, it's muthafuckin' King Theoden.
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Michael Bay is such a fucking joke. I'm extremely pleased that in all probability he'll die long before I do. How's that for hate, tough guy? What a fucking prick. My nephew loves Transformers. He's six. And hardly top of the class. Whilst I'm here might I suggest some effort is made to keep Megan Fox from ever talking unless she's acting in a scene. Every time she opens her mouth to say anything unscripted she reveals herself to be just about the dumbest cunt alive. EDGARWRIGHTS_PROLAPSEDANUS OUT!
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He has his supporters, and detractors.
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I don't mean to come off snobbish. In fact, it's what I rail against in myself when it comes to movies like these. I also think my opinion is not remotely original on this in fact it seems to be a 50/50 thing no? Half people like it and hate those who don't and the other half hate it and rag those who don't?And the pretense thing is part of my writing style. I don't mean to come off as an asshat if I do unless it's more obvious from my context (like the BATTLE ROYALES I used to push for in the political TB's).But I think that's also why I rather obviously included myself under the "jackass" blanket. Natch!
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more robot fighting in the IMAX cut at least gives those of you who are going to see this more of what you probably want....aside from a Megan Fox nude scene.
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It. Is. EPIC. Always makes me ready to pick up a spear and charge headlong into battle and certain death.
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Harken to me!
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Transformers is great escapist fun with Megan Fox in it... it's like your kid and adult fantasies in one... I can't wait for this.
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Jun 08, 2009 1:21:06 PM CDT
Anyone who's excited to see this must have serious brain damage
by the gospel according to bastardface
My heart sinks knowing so many of you fucking dumbasses will go turn what will be another shitty fucking film into a massive financial success.
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Feel free to say, "TINO!". Just remember that everytime you do, a baby seal is slaughtered. Slaughtered, I tell you!
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It's about a guy that dresses up like a bat whataya expect Shakespeare? It was a blockbuster so it must be good. Superfriends and Adam West was bad television, you shouldn't expect anything from a Batman movie.
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Please apologize for all the horrible aspects of the Transformers
1.Incoherent plot.. scenes in the movie lead nowhere or have no real purpose, comedy filler, waste time, no story logic. The movie's script made it hard to suspend belief and enjoy the movie. The Allspark is a very bad McGuffin it does everything just to cover up for the poor plot. How do the TFs get off a planet if they can't transform into something that flies?
2.Laughably bad CRINGE INDUCING dialogue. "My bad" Shia "NoNoNoNoNo"....." Whats up lil bitches"....."Touch my bush I'll kick your ass!'' ...."Happy Time" anything Agent Simmons said, "You eye'n my piece 50 cent? "ect. ect......... VOMIT
3. The army can kill the Decepticons. Superior beings.. yeah right.. Why even have the autobots. Sam kiling Megatron in a poorly shot and edited final battle.
4.Transformers look like metal scraps glued together. Complete disrespect to the source material. TF's are background props. Script is there only to push the movie towards the next explosion.
5.Dramatic scenes that fly straight out of left field. At the end Fox says "I'm so glad I got in the car with you." WTF
6.Formerly respectable star sinks to a new low.. John Turturro Jon Voight,Golden Shower Bumblebee pees now and farts? comedy gold....
7.Incredible overacting that is obviously encouraged by the director. NoNoNo Agent Simmons
8.Bumblebee who cannot speak for no apparent reason..Bad story telling.. Damaged in battle ....please, prequel comic or motion comic just try to cover up horrible story telling .Makes no sense other than that is what the director or script calls for in the movie. (no story logic.^)
Wouldn't need to waste so much time If BumbleBee could repair himself (like Barricade repaired himself after the first with Bumblepee fight) and tell Shia that he needs the glasses!
9.Rampant racial stereotyping. Bobby B " Hey Mammy " everybody tell the Hispanic soldier and Bobby B's mechanic to " Speak English dude " all the black characters yell scream and act crazy "left cheek left cheek!" shout up grandma! the doughnut scene
10.Characters with a lot of face time who end up playing no important role in the "story?"
Hackers and soldiers.
11.The action in some shots is hopelessly muddled. Shaky Cam, close ups, and quick cut editing.
12. Jazz's hilarious death scene is matched only by his hilarious eulogy. The Transformers are just props. I don't care if he dies and neither did any of the other Transformers.
13. Transformers had little scene time due to over elaborated designs which made them too expensive! Prime shows up 70 mins into the movie.
14. Blatant over the top product placement. Takes away from the movie experience. Not just minor product placement the movie stops just for the product placement. Bumblebee updates to a newer car, the memory card, the pilots getting into the F 22.
15. Transformers are secondary characters with little to no dialogue.
16. Hard to tell the Transformers apart. As long as the camera stands still long enough and the transformer is not silver. If it is an action scene forget about it..
17. For an action blockbuster there is not much action: 5 min of action in the beginning 10 min of action in the middle and 10 min of action at the end. In a 2 hr and 30 min movie. All of which jumps around from robots to humans every 2 seconds, due to the quick cut editing. Shaky Cam and close ups ruin most of the action also.
18. Shia LaBarf can't act. NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo B.S comedy shtick routine , Talk to myself while by myself = funny.. Even Stevens with robots...
19. Meagan Fox can't act. ........LMAO
20. Michael Bay can't direct. From interview Collider.com=
"Nobody had any faith in the movie.... That was the thing...umm when filming you're thinking I'm shooting a dumb F'ing robot movie....alright."
" I make movies for 13 year old boys." Can't remember the Transformers names. Brawl is the tank Bay.. not DEVASTATOR. No respect for the source material. Transformers look like Bionicles. Tells the fans of the original cartoon " It doesn't hold up.. not that good "
Overused cliche trademarks
Intense slow motion shots of characters
Has the camera moving during most scenes. Very rarely uses static shots.
Actors/characters in his films are almost uniformly shot in tight, emphatic close ups, framed under the hairline and above the chin.
Often has over-the-top visuals (i.e. key events taking place at sunset or dramatic events taking place behind actors doing routine activities).
Utilizes monotonic but intense musical cues during action-filled car chase scenes. Bad Boys II (2003), The Island (2005)
Uses shots of aircraft against a setting sun, especially helicopters (Armageddon (1998/I), Pearl Harbor (2001), Transformers (2007)).
Often features a slow-motion shot of an object crashing into, or tumbling towards the camera.
Uses a shot where the camera spins in a circle around characters. (Bad Boys II, Transformers)
Frequently incorporates scenes that involve characters running or moving towards the camera (almost always shot in slow-motion)
Even the trailer for ROTF had scenes that looked straight from Armageddon and Pearl Harbor.
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I caught what you were saying. Just had to mess with you a bit =). I've seen quite a few people come here and, when "shocked" by the amount of people that enjoyed Transformers, go crazy and spout some hyperbolic nonsense like "Am I the only intelligent person here who can see that this movie sucks?!?!" Its quite funny.
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Cameron and Spielberg are just two examples. The truck chase in Raiders is still the blueprint for an action scene. No rapid fire cuts. A sense of geography. Any Cameron action scene is the same. Just compare the LA River chase in T2 to the ADD SF chase in The Rock. Bay makes a hundred cuts in the span of a minute. As far as I am concerned, he started the whole shakey cam infatuation. Worst of all, I could a rats ass about what happens to the two-dimensional characters that Bay builds up. I still have no clue what was going on in the finale of Transformers.
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You just come across extremely biased in your opinions. Its hard to take your criticisms seriously when it comes from a place of such obvious hate.
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It can't be as bad as the first one can it? Maybe this time the two headed fucktards named Kurtzeman and Orci will include a scat joke involving engine sludge.
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Not for this Bayhem/Kurtzman/Orci garbage.
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Jun 08, 2009 1:25:59 PM CDT
If you're looking for anything profound from a Transformers movi
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Then you are an idiot. The TV show was nothing more than a way to sell toys and I loved it and I loved the toys and I enjoyed the first movie.
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No doubt. It's one of the most stirring scenes ever. It's also one of the trilogy's (and Jackson's) finest moments.Certain death is nothing but glory when you ride with a king who scares the bejeezus out of the enemy.
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don't play some kind of film and culture snob and sit this one out. You'll probably regret not seeing this in IMAX.
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'My nephew loves Transformers. He's six. And hardly top of the class.' - Harsh. But funny.
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Uh...look at your name. Shouldn't you be the one doing the "apologizing"?
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That's about the best comment I could give on Bay as of late. This is not hating as it's a reaction to seeing both Transformers , Armageddon, and The Island. His movies seem to me to have that same lighting, camera angles, appreciation of the female form, and then of course product placement (was distracting in Island).Megan Fox is attractive but she's nothing that Courtney Cox didn't pull off 15 years ago in terms of brunette with blue eyes and big boob hotness. Shia isn't as bad as many of you state all though I haven't seen KotCS so I could be uninformed. But then again, I never think "oh look, it's a guy acting" when I see him on screen so he's certainly capable enough to pull this stuff off.Bay makes movies for "sportsfans" and that usually means there's at least some tiny bit of something that we can enjoy.But when he had a robot pee on The Jesus, I lost my perspective a bit. Sorry about that.
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don't play some kind of film and culture snob and sit this one out. You'll probably regret not seeing this in IMAX.
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across the galaxy has potential for more than robots pissing on people if you can't see that then your an idiot. The comics have plenty of mature story-lines to expand upon. The whole cartoon-was-to-sell-toys argument is weak. If you discovered Star Wars was created to sell toys would that instantly destroy all Star Wars characters and mythology?
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Jun 08, 2009 1:32:14 PM CDT
If you thought the first Transformers traded scope for comedy
by anything but tangerines
don't play some kind of film and culture snob and sit this one out. You'll probably regret not seeing this in IMAX.
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That fucker would do it, too. "Reform the line! Blow that fucking horn . . . the world's ending!"
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Definitely one of the best parts in the entire trilogy and one of my favorite moments overall, that epic charge into the Pelennor Fields. Too bad Aragorn's speech at the end was inferior to the awesome bloodthirsty power that was Theoden.
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is like like basing your expectations of a Batman movie soley on Superfriends.
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Jun 08, 2009 1:35:16 PM CDT
If you thought that podracing was the only worthwhile addition t
by anything but tangerines
don't play some kind of film and culture snob and sit this one out. You'll probably regret not seeing this in IMAX.
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heh, I had forgotten about that missive until reading your post. I've bled out enough seals for all the TINO! posts from yesteryear...and a few since then. While I enjoy the encouragement to make this a 5K post of amusing vitriole, hate, and the oddity a long TB devolves into after a week or two of continual posts, I'm content to watch from the sidelines. But the shout out always helps the ego, so thanks.
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eh, fine. What's one more baby seal....I dedicate that one to MNG. ;)
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BLOW THAT FUCKING HORN! We've got giant robots coming after us! The world's ending! Hehehe.
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Jun 08, 2009 1:36:59 PM CDT
If you've ever typed a subject line that was too long and were p
by anything but tangerines
don't play some kind of film and culture snob and sit this one out. You'll probably regret not seeing this in IMAX.
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once Bayformers opens in IMAX people are going to be over-dosing on aspirin left and right.
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arrr me hearties!
Even if the film is shit this is at least very cool - "You will see Optimus Prime in a few shots where he is actually perfectly to scale on the IMAX 50 foot tall screens." -
I bet Mikey B is right about that. Seeing Optimus onscreen as 'lifesize' would be kewl, no doubt.I'd just advise on bringing an mp3 player so you can avoid any possible campy and self-consious dialog and provide your own (non Linkin Park) soundtrack to what will most definitely be amazing effects work. (seriously, hate it all you want, even on SD the first movie's effects work is very impressive...too shaky of course. But that highway and city battle looks great on the screen. You can actually get more detail out of repeated viewings! When's the last time anyone could say that about a Bay flick?!).To me, the shaky cam is totally not necessary as he has kick ass action going on that is reduced by the presence of manic shaky cam. That and the actors making quirky comedic lines (seriously, the movie is at least a single star better if muted all the way through..try it).Karaoke Michael Bay movies and make yourself an actual god damn action-movie classic!
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to see that the Phantom Menace, Batman Forever,and Bayformers all scream wasted potential.
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by crumpling aluminum foil in front of my eyeballs!! Awesome! Totally awesome!!!
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Do you really think that all of Transformers problems are going to be over looked because it made a lot of money or had what you consider "AWESOME" action scenes on a website devoted to movies.
What were you expecting Shakespeare? No just a story and plot that was taken seriously would have been nice.
Based on a dumb toy commercial to sell toys Wrong...it was a comic book first Fun and entertaining leave your brain at the door popcorn blockbuster I'm sorry Transformers is not an amusement park ride....it's a movie and I'll judge it as such It made a lot money..so you are just hating on Bay If the movie sucks it sucks.... I just want a good action movie and Bay delivers If you could pay attention you would realize the action sucks due to Bays inability to restrain his Commercial/music video Cinematography..... Bay action = mindless, random, pointless, soulless explosions, loud noises, flashing lights, all wrapped up in terrible over dramatic music. -
I hate when watching Batman in 2:35:1 (blu-ray) how those IMAX scene's pop off the top and bottom of my screen. Come on! We don't have fucking IMAX at home. Just crop it in or push it in to the framing please.
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to carry the movie was Optimus Prime who, character-wise, was a direct translation of the cartoon. Coincidence? I think not. The cartoon was memorable and iconic to some extent which is why it's fandom has outlasted most of Bay's movie characters. No one remembers the name of characters from a Mikey Bay movie but everybody knows who Optimus fucking Prime is.
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Literally. Spruced up Pearl Harbor shots of aircraft carriers for TF1.
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Jun 08, 2009 1:50:15 PM CDT
camera rollin'. they hatin'. baysaloserbutatleast he ain't so ne
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Who would you see do a better job than Michael Bay? I dunno, the guy has action pretty down pat if you ask me...and for making a saturday morning cartoon into a movie, looks pretty good...
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" Dealing with the Haters"
"Let'em hate all they all they want - hate is a negative wasted energy. People who hate generally are miserable in their own lives. Life is way too short to have that negative emotion. And the wonderful thing - no matter how much they want to hate - I still love what I do!
Besides, I'm the one with the 200 million dollar bank account!
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Nerd Rage, stanley godspeed, as played by nic cage.
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Seriously, that was a more serious adult story than fighting for energy cubes ever would have been, seriously.
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Maybe T-Formers is actually good, but it's stuck in transformation as it can DISGUISE itself as a shitty movie.
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Yet people expect more from a Pirates of the Caribbean sequel than they do from a Transformers sequel. If you can make a critically acclaimed franchise based on a theme park ride then why not from a cartoon/comic adaptation???
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Transfomers is the worst movie ever made. It not only destroyed what little faith I still had in Hollywood, but caused me to swear off all movies forever. Shame on you Michael Bay. Shame on you Steven Spielberg. Distgusting.
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You're absolutely right about Bayformers. Keep those standards up, down with the studio cheerleaders.
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I can smell it coming from around the corner.
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Uwe Bowl calls bay a "fucking retard"!
"I find people who rant like that - calling shit about both me, and George Clooney - comes from someone screaming because he is not being heard. He is obviously a sad being.
When you ask "do I care"? Not in the slightest.
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Jun 08, 2009 2:00:42 PM CDT
Intergalactic war of living machines fueled by foreign energy
by nerd rage
Yeah there's nothing Hollywood could've done with that besides give us a magic cube that turns soda machines into Transformers.
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the rampant, incorrect use of "so" & "such" in Transformers? "We are so dead." "This is such a felony." "This is so not cool." "So not good."
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Can anyone tell me a movie where we would have been fine with a major (well, the bots were supporting unfortunately) character pisses on someone and we wouldn't walk out like, "That's the best they could think of for Darth Vader to do?"
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Remember, a worthwhile opinion is an informed opinion. So make sure you see TRANSFORMERS 2 before you return to AICN to bash!Don't hate dumb. Hate smart!
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I for one am fine with that. Bring on Kraven and the Lizard!!
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First Bay says it doesn't bother him.....apparently it does ... hypocrite
"Can we stop talking about this guy! I never even heard his name till last week when he made threats and rants. The guy is a fucking idiot, making threats to me, Clooney, Eli Roth, says he has a doctorate - but uses the word "retard" in his vocabulary, come on. When you look at his videos, what is interesting are the backgrounds. I guess his low rent offices, with 15 year old 3/4 machines, archaic computers, this is just some dumb chump trying to get some fame when he has none, so he has to make Youtube lame quality anger rants. Guy just want attention because he can't get any for the so called movies he makes. Nothing sadder when he had his screening in LA to an over half empty movie house.
He is a troubled soul - let's not waste time on talking about him please.
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LMAO
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But damn, that motherfucer knows how to cut a trailer.
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But do we really need more detail in those damned robots?! One of the (many) problems with the first movie was that the 'bots were too distractingly "busy."
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..I couldn't give a shit about.Now I loved Bad Boys and I liked The Rock but Transformers fucking sucked. The action scenes were a mess - it is a sad day when you can point to a McG film and say "There you go Mikey, THATS how you frame action"The character design was awful and, if you think about it, a waste of good budget - ooh, each robot has 10,000 moving parts. BIG FUCKING DEAL! Well done dickhead it now costs $10,000 a fucking frame to render.The script/plot was a joke - so they are all after this cube thing right that can be really big/small depending on where it needs to be. The bad guys are after these glasses that have the map to the cube (I missed how they knew that) but it was pointless anyway as the military took Megatron to THE SAME FUCKING PLACE ANYWAY! Robots that piss, breakdance and hide in back gardens even though they can TRANSFORM INTO EARTH VEHICLES TO DISGUISE THEMSELVES! Throw in the crass product placement, the demographic box ticking and the borderline racist comic relief and you have a cinema experience that actually left me feeling quite dirty afterwards.
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"Transfomers is the worst movie ever made." Jay Retread wins!
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But instead we watch them piss and breakdance. It's like if Spielberg made an ET movie filled with alien farting.
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I feel like summer 2009 is the price we are paying for summer 2008.
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that have no dialogue or character development and look like walking piles of junk! Praise the Bayhem. Michael Bay is the best action director in the world anybody who hates is just a GEEWWUNNER with buthurt!!!!!!!!
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"Never before has there been 4k rendered character animation shot on full IMAX 70 mm film."
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Never thought it would happen. My money is on Lizard and Kraven too.
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HATERZZZ! Bay has spoken!!
Seriously, can we all conclude that Bay is a twat? Anyone who posts so much about themselves and uses 'HATER' term just needs to die. Transformers was the equivalent of seeing a fat man fall down a flight of stairs...Funny the first time but boring the next. -
Is his multi-million dollar bank account not enough to protect his fragile ego?
I've read some spoilers from the screening, and it's apparent that Bay HATES Transformers and HATES the fans. The word is that Soundwave doesn't even appear in robot mode. We get Welker as the voice actor, but for some reason the fan favorite character is barely interacting with other characters, with just a few lines. In an earlier interview, he was very happy to report that Katzenberg told him that characters need "big voices." We've been telling him that all along. You don't need a kasquillion bits of detail to "feel empathy" for these characters. Tyreese was excited to see Peter Cullen at a convention and gave him a big warm hug. This was due to Cullen's voice coming from that 25-year-old 2-dimensional crudely animated Prime. Ask any animator, and they'll tell you that the voice is central to an animated character. Yeah, I'll see it once, eventually. A hater won't see it. I want to know what's going on so I can make a full opinion of the second movie. Robot fights are neat, but I need more from any story. -
Breakdancing robots is consistent with the original Transformers cartoon. Hand spin, holla!And I think any robot willing to relieve some lubricant on an underoos wearing government agent shows a tremendous amount of spirit and soul.Come on, haterz. This TB belongs at the top. Get snarky!
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Don't know who is going to play the Kingpin, but I've got a feeling that Raimi is going to use him.
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You have never seen anything like this. I can tell you this, Bay made a point to pull the camera back, no more spinning scissor fights. I'm talking about steady, panning, sweeping shots. It's beautiful. Just wait.
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AWESOME COMEDY AWESOME STORYAWESOME AD LIB DIALOGUE AWESOME RACISM AWESOME CINEMATOGRAPHY EPIC WINSUACE TEH BESTEST MOVIZES EVAH!!!!!!! YYEEEAAAAHHHHH MORE THEN MEETS THE EYE! FTW LINK"N PARK KICKS FUCKINZ AZZZ SHIA LEBOUF IS TEHZ AWESZOMEZ ACTROZ MEGAN FOXZ MAKE ME MASTUERBATES! FOR EPIC BAYHEM BAYSPOLOSIONZZ!!!!!!! raping your childhood since 2007
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You heard it here first!
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You have hundreds of hours of animated and comic book entertainment to choose from and you select the worst the mythos has to offer. Genius!
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SKULL FUCK MICHAEL BAY
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SKULL FUCK MICHAEL BAY
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the imitate hate just doesn't do it for me.
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But I have my limits.
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I don't get most of the hype for IMAX. This sounds like it will be good because there are actual 4K elements created for the film.
Most films just take the regular 35mm print & throw it up on 70mm film. They've got an "uprezzing" process that's kind of hyped, but is just a reprocessing of 35mm information & isn't much better than just seeing the film on a large 35mm screen. CG animated films & CG elements for films are almost always rendered at 2K. Run it through a 70mm projector or a 35mm projector, it's the same amount of base information on screen.
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"Haters" on here make some damn good points sometimes, like when you spend tens of millions of dollars to animate 42 giant robots fighting... CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE IT A LITTLE FUCKING CLEARER THIS TIME WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? There is no excuse for shakey-cam CGI. It's deliberate to mask bad CGI. If your robots are SO DAMN COOL then FUCKING SHOW HOW!!!!!!!
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Punch it!!!
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Nearly impossible to enjoy the movie since it's curved. You have to see it twice, look once to the left the whole movie then the right another. I gotta find a *real* IMAX on Long Island dammit.
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Target Bayformers and fire!!! FIRE!!!!!!!
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Have you actually seen the film? Do tell!
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the machines with souls concept anymore than a farting ET shows that aliens have souls.
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Thats ALL you've got going for you on these films. That's the good stuff!
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Since he was in the Daredevil project and Fox might still own the rights to a Daredevil movie and the characters used in it. Would make a nice crossover if Michael clark Duncan played him.
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Jun 08, 2009 2:28:06 PM CDT
WICKEDJESTER - I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IMAX AT COLISEUM
by bringingsexyback
You gotta come into the city (Lincoln Center) for true Imax. LI doesn't have one I think. The dome Imax is cool for underwater nature docs but not other movies.
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In an interview with Wizard magazine, Shia La Beouf tries to apologize for his new film and Bay's particular style of filmmaking:
"The movie is (Bay's) best film. He's getting better as he goes. He is attempting to do different things. He sticks with the same formula, it's proven. He's not the only one to do that. The most important thing a director can do is establish a style. Michael Bay has a definite style."
La Beouf called Bay's films "escapism" and boasted:
"I don't know of anybody that shoots action like Michael Bay. Nobody shoots women like Michael Bay. He is shameless about it. And the world wants that. Middle America wants the shameless, exploitive, escapism film. That's what they want. They want big, bad, sexy and fast."
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...but they're reusing models. Blackout seems to be back (he been dead), for no other reason than to get killed again. Skorponok's back for a few frames. After the Constructicons merge into 1 big robot, you'll see duplicates of their character models running around & fighting. I think they reuse the "protoform" models from the first one too.
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Sure it does. It just means that Bumblebee can be a real asshole when he feels like it.
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Come on, you can do better than that.
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Yea stupid Cradle of Aviation Museum.I see a 'Imax 3d' in deer park -- that just a reg screen w/ the glasses do you know?
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could be tearing Mike a new one there. ....rethinking IMAX viewing
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Go to Lincoln Center and watch Star Trek in IMAX.
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Jun 08, 2009 2:34:07 PM CDT
This movie is going to be impossible to watch
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
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That will be a first. I usually just expect 2+ hours of military and tech fetishism.
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wish I had that job. I wouldn't have to a fucking thing day in and out
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Hard to justify a 2 hour commute for Imax, but after watching TDK in DOME-VISION, I'll have to do just that. Thanks for the info, see ya at Lincoln.
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but nobody rememebrs the REAL low point of transformers 1 was Sam's buddy randomly climbing a tree. But Starscream taking out the jets was awesome enough to forgive it.
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Bay says " All theaters screening Transformers will have ushers handing out helmets and checking for sharp objects before admission ."
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Which kind of made sense, what with vampires being in (again), and there was that kind of ridiculous plotline way back featuring Morbius, Lizard, and Peter Parker with 6 arms! I can see part 4 featuring Kraven hunting Parker's mentor Dr.Connors, trapped in the Lizard's form, with Spidey caught in between... classic he wins-he loses situation for Spiderman.
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Aren't people interested in IMAX anymore? After Dark Knight, you'd think people would eat that shit up?
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Unicron instead of having a beard and horns will have the head of a spider and a body of twisted, crumpled metal. Bay said the original reminded him of the devil, the same devil who gave him a successful film career. Sam will scream every Autobots name at least three times. Explosions will be louder instead of better writing, Bay said audiences are too dumb to tell the difference. Megan Fox will fight Megatron with her giant dildo which thanks to the magic cube now talks with a hillbilly accent. Bumblebee will puke on a congressmen, to which Optimus Prime says "git r' done". Bay will have the black cast dancing to soulja boy at a KFC.
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Can anyone name a good Micheal Bay film? Well after you see TF:ROTF you still won't be able to.
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go jump off a cliff
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I know that the movie is about. It ends rather weirdly.
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Bay is going to wipe out your supply once he gets his check for TF2.
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Jun 08, 2009 2:53:22 PM CDT
No, the douches are half the people on this TB
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
I'm talking about the dipshits that haven't supported 'Drag Me To Hell' despite it being one of the most entertaining horrors in years, and then sit on these talkbacks attacking Transformers but then going to see it anyway. Yeah, that's right. I fucking hate you, people.I ain't giving Bay one fucking dollar towards his next movie just like I didn't with the first movie. I downloaded that piece of shit so I could at least verify that it was crap, but won't even do that for the next one.I only pay for big movies I know will be decent or independant movies in the cinema. That's why I was one of the few people who watched 'Drag Me To Hell' and that's why I'll be one of the few people who WON'T see Transformers 2.Fuck you, you whiny spineless sheep.
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Ah, but Mike, if your films were better or even if T1 was better you would have 400 million in the bank. That's some short term thinking going on there hoss.Hee's how to fix the Transformer ficks. Get rid of Kurtzman and Orci. 86.325871% of the issues would be fixed.
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Hahah, So glad I never got into horror. All the fucking movies are the same.
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Why and for what?
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Haters Beware! Tee hee hee.
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I dare you. Transformers is shit. Michael Bay is shit. People who pay money to see this and therefore subsidize the continuing shit that is this shit are shit.
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Jun 08, 2009 2:59:03 PM CDT
I couldn't sit through a free pirated copy of the first one...
by kjmad25
I remember turning it off when they were activating that relic bot or whatever it was. Total garbage.
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Jun 08, 2009 2:59:25 PM CDT
Micheal Bay is going to bury himself with his cocain, cars, and
by nerd rage
"They'll follow me to the afterlife!!!"
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Jun 08, 2009 2:59:58 PM CDT
lockesbrokenleg = stupid shit talkbacker
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
"All the fucking movies are the same."What the fuck does that even mean? Are you seriously trying to say that Jacob's Ladder is the same movie as Hellraiser or the original Halloween?
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They're all cult movies that a certain section of the public likes while every in real life hates the shit out of them,
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I most certainly an mot going to see Transformers in theaters... probably if it comes to the movie channel next year... if there is nothing else to do and my wife is not home. The first one was horrible and I see nothing that indicates that TF:ROTF will be any better (more likely much, much worse).
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have fun with your DVD copy of Wanted that you've probably splooged all over.
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You are a good person. May the mooninites declare you a Moon Master for your good ways.
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I saw the trailers. It looked like shit. I bet you think Fast and Furious is high art?
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Somebody confused quantity with quality.
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...strange.
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Kjmad25 is right.You're fucking insane.
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The reason why I like Bay's films is because we all know what to expect from him. We take them for what they are.
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Armageddon sucked. The Rock was kinda boring. I liked Transformers because it was pretty faithful to the cartoon. The cartoon wasn't high art, and it needed to be updated.
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New Trek baby!!! Pew!! Pew!!! Pew!!! Ping!!
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Maybe you've got a fetish for pissing CGI robots?
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Good work, lieutenant. Keep it up.
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God, Kevin Smith. You are a shit.
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But there is that pause button ...
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Harry Potter on the other hand, I'm going to wait a few weeks to punish WB for moving the film back 8 months.
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YOu won't get it again.
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Noooooo thank you. I'd rather have the Angelina from that horrid Taking Lives Director's Cut sex scene.
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100 percent nude in that movie, and no pausing!
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Jun 08, 2009 3:18:13 PM CDT
BRINGINGSEXYBACK: YOU SURE ARE A BORING TALKBACKER
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
YAWN
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Total rear asscrackin' shot
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What passes for an exciting talkbacker.
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Love the look of Bay's films, hate the content. Loved Transformers from way back, didn't really care for the cartoon, but the old Marvel comic was required reading for me between '84 and '87. None, not even the original, of the TV shows, or movies (cartoon or otherwise) are anywhere close to it in terms of story content. Wish to God that they had hired Bob Budiansky to write the story.
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If there's one reason to hate Bay (and its a good one), its because he introduced the ADHD editing style to Hollywood. For that reason alone, he should be tied to a pole in the desert and have his eyes picked clean by crows.
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Didn't know about a director's cut. Thanks for the info.
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To answer your question, please see: Any talkbacker that isn't you.
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She is 100 percent nude in Gia.
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Don't you mean Gia?
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Has an extended scene of the sex scene. Its quite enjoyable, I highly recommend it.
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Or are you saving the good stuff?
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hey lockesbrokenleg if a certain section of people like horror how can EVERYONE hate the shit out of it (brain?).. pussies mostly hate horror movies.......... mostly
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He used to go down on his mom.
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but even I recognize it's pretty much shit.
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apocalyptic FAIL! Are you fucking kidding me?! Are these fuckers stupid or just stubborn? DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!!!
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..more shitty Transformers films please Mr Bay.
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Dude, i ain't even trying here. I said what I had to say over in the ScriptGirl TB. Go ahead and keep trying to attack me for speaking THE TRUTH all you want. You're probably one of the sheep I was addressing in my earlier post.
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Fuck, can you believe he's remaking THAT movie? I hope the Last Starfighter guy is in this one.
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It's quite alright. Yes, I am one of those "sheep". Whatever.
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The comic was awesome at the time, and the story was pretty good. I read the Brit comics and they stopped showing the original story after Shockwave arrived and carried on with some other stories set during the first arc. The rest of it was pretty messed up though as they tried to keep up with the new toys being released.
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You have moved beyond 'denial'.Now our disagreement is solved, we may go back to discussing this fucking awful movie by this fucking awful director.
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Totally fucks with the fanboy crowd. "Oh, you hate that Optimus has a removable faceplate and flames? How's this, fucktard. I'll have his faceplate smashed off for good and add more flames in the sequel. Enjoy jerking it to Megan's Ass in your moms basement, mouthbreathers."
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I like him, he's articulate.
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Kim Jong Il loves Western decadence!!
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That's what I said WORD FOR WORD to my friends today, apart from the basement bit.
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By getting upset at one of BSB's jokes in the SG TB and thinking BSB was being literal.
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As in The Jesus!!! You don't fuck with The Jesus! I mean shit...pee on that screaming Anthony Anderson guy...piss all over Jon Voight (thanks for the hot daughter jackass!) piss all over the CW cast people or extras...hell piss on each OTHER!But you do not piss on The Jesus. Or you'll see what you get when you fuck a stranger in the ass!!!
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This is a side of me my family and friends don't know. Ssshhh ...
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how are they using the different Marvel characters (i.e. Iron Man, the Hulk) in each other's movies? Marvel couldn't pull a similar trick to get Kingpin into Spiderman 4?
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Haha! Love it..hate it...it's the most talked about around the water cooler! And it's spelled KEWL because "cool" looks dumb in print as a replacement for the word "excellent" jackass! Now, get that dictionary out of your ass before your mom comes home. No dinner and straight to bed if you don't stop shoving literature up your ass!
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I think it was a simple case of an understatement going over someone's head. It happens.
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Apparently, Kingpin is apart of DD's universe, and is still in 20th Century Fox's stable. I agree, though. He'd be great.
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Completely agree. You never piss on the Jesus! Turturro should have replied, "Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger 'til it goes "click.""
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Jun 08, 2009 3:48:26 PM CDT
Bay's emails read worse than his shitty scripts!
by willardgreensthunderballs
CRASH! BAM! BANG! Full scale Optimus! More explosions! RAWR! Character development beware!
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Damn you non robot loving freaks.
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Marvel owns the rights to Hulk and Iron Man and the Avengers in that they can make movies of those characters any way they like. They, unfortunately, allowed Sony to renew their contract to continue making Spider-Man movies, which, I believe, means Sony owns Spider-Man and thus Marvel can't just put Spidey into their future films. I assume the same goes for Daredevil. I know Fox still owns Fantastic Four and X-Men. If Fox doesn't make an X-Men movie every couple of years with "X-Men" in the title (hence the clunky "X-Men Origins" line), they lose the rights and Marvel gets them back. That's why Fox is so keen on "rebooting" Fantastic Four as well. They don't want to lose the rights to a moneymaker. I think it was stupid of Marvel to allow Fox to keep most of those rights. I don't blame them for Sony as the Spidey films have made both companies very rich.
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Seriously. This has been spoken of before and I bet it would work quite nicely on Transformers.The idea is someone with a digital copy edits the film down by cutting out all of the worst crap (which, coincidentally, rarely actually moves the story forward), get rid of the worst of the annoying crap (robot pee, robot "hip" antics, the entire "hacker" team, anthony anderson and john voight) and you'd very likely have one kick ass little Transformers movie.I've heard someone did this like way back when someone went thru Phantom Menace and made a watchable movie (by basically cutting out the kiddie comedy stuff and 99.9% of JarJar).Well? We're waiting...?
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I gotcha. We'll probably end up seeing the Lizard, Mystero, or Kraven instead.
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I love all this, "Transformers 1 wasn't really bad" shit. Are you guys on crack? Transformers 1 was about some shitty kid played by the weakest actor of all time. It wasn't about the robots. The robots had no character. If you don't remember, morons, transformers was about transformers. That SHIT Mike put out was garbage on every lvl and no matter how many more details he puts into it, he still doesn't get it. FUCK SHIA. He ain't the transformers. And when years go by and I get my shot at putting transformers on the big screen, I won't have some sappy headed kid with a curl whip hair because the industry is nepotized - all this is ruff-ed out and without a care for structure, because this movie is utter shit and raw emotional channels through my anal ass - peace, newbdars.
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Would be full of Win.
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Thanks!
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What kind of loser who claims to absolutely despise a movie goes on to list every thing he hates in it in intense detail. You've certainly spent an awful amount of time thinking about this movie which you supposedly hate. I mean shit, I watched it once, didnt really like it, and now two years later I could hardly recall a single scene. You must be watching this thing at least once a month. Shouldn't you expend your energy on something that, I dunno, you like?
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And not the kind I like. Her print shots lately haven't done much for me. She's a pretty girl, yes. But there are many others I have bigger crushes on.
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She's Gorgeous, and Strippers are only beautiful when they're rubbing against your jean-covered crotch at 4 in the afternoon in a Coke-induced haze under Stobe Lights with Winger pumping over the loudspeakers.
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Liking girls is good. Being discerning is better.
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But she does it for me.
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And I can tell that just by watching the trailer. Cliched plot, contrived characters, dialogue, and line delivery. Yeah the FX are good but you know what? FX don't make a movie, characters, and character development make a movie. This is why Terminator Salvation sucked, why the first Transformers was a piece of shit, along with the ugly robot designs, and why with the great FX, Transformers 2 is destined to be an utter piece of shit along with the robot designs again.
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1) She is incredibly hot. Anyone who thinks otherwise is being vindictive or is just in denial.
2) At the same time, SFW. Lots of hot girls out there in Hollywood. Is she any hotter than Jordana Brewster, Kate Beckinsale, Kristen Bell, Bar Refaeli, Scarett Johansen, Marissa Miller or Eva Mendes? No. Beauty and hotness are a dime-a-dozen in Hollywood, and can quickly be replaced. Remember how everyone was going nuts for Brittney Spears after the MTV music awards when she ripped off her pants? Or Jessica Simpson after seeing her in Dukes of Hazard? They were pretty easily replaced weren't they.
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But I think there's 2 kinds of hottie judges. Those that judge from the bottom up and those that judge from the top down (the entire female gender). I usually judge from the top down so someone like Megan Fox doesn't have competition at my local Circle K; she's full on in competition with all of Hollywood's and the world's hotties which makes her...average at best. Generic porn star hot at best, if you think about it.... And since that's all she really brings to the table (her hotness), I'll watch Rachel Weiz any day of the week and 2x on Sunday over Megan Fox.I this happens a lot...a really nice body makes us all loose our minds and overlook facial banality. Not ugly but average. Think Pam Anderson as a perfect example of this theory.Quite understandable when you get down to it...hell, in some ways it's not even fair. What the hell am I supposed to do with boobs all up in my face?! Arithmetic?!?!!? Bppffllpbt!!!But I agree...I even said earlier that I think Courtney Cox did a much better job (and more talented job) by exploring the super hottie brunette with blue eyes and big boobs 10 years ago (her 10 minute scene is the only thing worth watching in the shitty remake of 'The Longest Yard'). Megan Fox is a hottie to be sure but she's not remotely captivating. Anne Hathaway is far more intriguing and therefore, way more of a hottie than Fox. Me 2sense.
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She's also blissfully unaware that she's on incredibly thin-ice career-wise. It is entirely impossible to relate to her. She seems like a self-obsessed cunt when all's said and done. It's okay to act like you deserve superstardom on the way up. Indeed it's part of the process. But when you get there you look like a bit of an ungrateful cunt if you maintain this pose. Thin-ice, mark my words.
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Because I just so happen to have an 8-ball I was saving for the Twilight TB...
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But the difference is, it was a movie first, then merchandised afterward. These movies are built around product placement/tie-ins/spin-offs and then cobbled together haphazardly afterward. That's why movies like Transformers look like 2 hour commercials, that's how they are shot.
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agree with the Rachel Weiz assesment.
Megan needs to show that she can actually act. (Something she seems aware she hasn't proved yet) She's this 1/2 Decades Jessica Alba, and Alba showed she had Zero Chops as an actress and that's why she's on the downslope. I like that Megan seems really self aware of the Hollywood Machine, and her place in it. That makes her kinda hot, for me. (Not Kinda Hot For Me.) -
I disagree. I read her Esquire article, and she seems to realize how thin the ice really is.
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We all would fuck her brains out in a heartbeat if someone hadn't beaten us to it.
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David Austin Green. Now we could all make 90210 jokes, but seriously, the guy has probably got good game.
Its like Scott Baio - the guy is a joke to all of us, but he is also a man who was banned from the playboy mansion for sleeping with each Playmate of the Month.
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Well then why doesn't she try to rectify the situation? If she knows it and still struts around like she's fucking royalty then she's even dumber than I thought.
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and thought, how the fuck did David Silver get so fucking cool. Just the thought of him munching on Fox's Puckie made me hate him even more.
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I never got that impression, but maybe you've seen stuff I haven't. I'm waiting to see Diablo Cody's Jennifer's Body to make my final decision on who this Fox girl really is.
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I'm the Legolas of these Transformer Talkbacks.
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Most normal people don't know what goes into CG, the rendering, the apps, the programming, etc. Bay actually knows what to do regarding it, seriously. He's not "hey geeks, turn this pretty picture into an animated thingie." He's in the farm, actually working it.
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and appear on a couple episodes of Chuck or something quirky.
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He played one the "Frat boy" villians in Mystery Men his perfect role.
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Harken to me!Sorry buddy, didn't mean to exclude you.Guess what? I just checked CHUD and it looks like one of Murphy's Stooges has seen TRANSFORMERS 2 at the screening in Japan.Let the real games begin!
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SS in IMAX. Coming right at you!
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I don't think Don gives a shit any more. I think he just gets his check and keeps it moving.
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I love how the fanboys, haters, nerds, and trannyformer apologists that post paragraph after annoying paragraph don't even know what they're talking about.....transformers was NOT a comic first...saying that automatically disqualifies anyone from being taken seriously.....the more u babies cry, the more I laugh ....especially from the same names saying the same old stuff in overblown long detailed paragraphs as if we care...just because so many of u have so much time on your hands that u can post as many times all day long doesn't make u an expert or even someone that we should bow down and not challenge your overstated and retarded opinion....in fact most of the comments in every TF talkback prove to me that most of u didn't even pay attention to the story of the firsr movie...yes there was a story...the action was clear...and it was taken seriously.... just not as serious as u fanboys would have liked....guess what, this movie was not made for u...still waiting for someone to say who would hav been a better director.....1yr and counting and not one response....very,very telling....bottom line, stop bitching, enjoy the ride, and please get your facts straight before u post that the comics came before the toys, that's just sad..
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And to quothe_Noted_Sage Rickey_Henderson-there Never was a man better suited to direct movies of Big Robots Hitting Each Other-than this guy, right there-Mr. Mikey Bay. You know it's true.
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In addition to the toys preceding the comic, the original cartoon preceded the comics, proves how much u losers that are the "hardcore" fans actually know,,,now STFU
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and i have to say it pretty much kicks ass. i was steeped in hate from t'backers and i think it clouded my first viewing. now i am proud to say i own it and can't wait for 2. and no, not a plant.
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waaah, jesus, what a bunch of shitheads these haters are...you all should never go see a movie again the rest of your lives, bitch, moan, and groan for something that hasn't even hit the screen yet. not every movie is going to be a life changing experience, and if a movie looks like it not going to do it for you, then move on...waaah waaaah waaaaah, FUCK...buncha fuckin ball busters you all are, my guess is that you all are from ohio or indiana. at the end of the day, the only thing you should expect from a movie is if it did it's job by distracting you from your sad existence of a life for a couple of hours, opiate for the masses sorta thing...i condemn you to the hell of a thousand info-mercials
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Transformer Wheelie HUMPS Megan Fox's leg!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most of the Transformers are lame or racist STEREOTYPES!!! AWESOME!Soundwave has only a few lines and is never seen in his robot form!!! Devastator only says one word (he says his name)in the whole movie!!!
Hey does anybody remember the Scorpinok solider battle scene how the highly advanced robot fired missiles randomly at the tops of buildings and trees...AWESOME ACTION brah!! What about how the helicopter robot ripped off the top of the building then did it again the exact same way a few seconds latter...AWESOME ACTION What about the Bumblebee Barricade fight scene and car chase it went from day to night in an instant. The Fight scene barely showed 3 or 4 second of poorly shot metal junk piles rolling around before cutting away to Shia with his pants down!!!! AWESOME ACTION YEAH! Autobots hiding in the backyard for 15 minutes was an AWESOME ACTION SCENE!!! OH YEAH I LOVE THE MIND BLOWING ACTION OH and who could forget the 5 second Bonecrusher/Prime fight WOW IT LASTED a WHOLE 5 SECONDS WITHOUT AN EDIT TO SHIA SCREAMING NO!!! AWESOME! The final fight at Mission city with 10 minutes of zoomed in, random, shaky incoherent action was so mind blowing I sprew seamen all over the theater! Just got to love the 2 seconds of robots cut to 5 seconds of humans then back again for the whole time... Aww it's so awesome action pack blockbuster! Now the final showdown between Prime and Megatron and all we get is roling around on the ground with flashes of blurry metal and explosions. They are not on screen when they say their famous lines. At least we got to see Shia hiding in a ditch screaming NoNoNoNoNoNo awesome, intense, edge of your seat, epic, blockbuster action at its finest!! -
1: He's good at making things go BOOM! 2: He's a military fetishist. 3: He likes the Flag. 4: He likes Giant Robots and Brainiac fits into that nicely. 5: Megan Fox can pretend to be Lana Lang. 6: No bogus Luthor as mad real-estate speculator plots. 7: He had a hit w/ an Outer-space themed movie already-Armageddon, and is sure to wanna revisit the scene of a glorious past. 8: Buscemi as Myxppltzck there will rule. 9: Bay is a fan of the Flash 10: He makes things go Boom.
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Hmmm. I don't think you're trying hard enough, pochenko.
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GIANT ROBOTS ARE COMING!!!Can you feel it?
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RC....I hope they gave her some nice titties...
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We just hate you.
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Bend me over and do what ever you want so long as you keep making giant-robots-that-fight movies.
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no i didn't but it doesn't ruin it for me.
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Keep'em comin' there Mikey. 42? Make it 242!! PIKER!! We need wall to wall metallic gigantic incoherent whirling masses of CGI METALLIC BOOM! Plus those neat-o shots of sunsets over trees. Those are good. W/ a Giant Robot.
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With each desperate attention craving paragraph, trannyformers throws into doubt that he even saw the first transformers movie. Dude, quit while you're ahead...its emabarrasing
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...mix the filmmaking of Irreversible, with the action of Transformers, we'd have something special.
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Now THAT is what IMAX is supposed to be about. Looking forward to seeing this, and you can bet your ass I'm going to the IMAX version!
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Is that trannyformers apologist spent 854 words and an inordinate amount of time writing shit that has been said a thousand times before in these talkbacks. You "haters" have become just as pathetic, or even more so, than the Transformers fanboys. Get the fuck over it you cry babies. Pathetic.
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Whining about whiners who whine. on a website about whining.
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I've been visiting this site for over 5 years now and I remember when Harry did not have a problem saying a movie was shit regardless of the budget or director. And how 90% of the posters agreed with his opinions. Now the only thing that really gets his ire up is Anything from Fox and Tom Rothman and there is a general Audience for Dumb Fucking movies from Dumb fucking Directors. And I'm considered a hater for not enjoying something stupid. Yes I hate ignorant stupid , vapid, poorly shot, poorly written, movies.
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Jun 08, 2009 6:36:34 PM CDT
I'm sad that this movie is going to delay my chance to watch Har
by wendybird
But I suppose it's Warner Bros. own fault for rescheduling it, in the first place.
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all the "designs" suck, I dont give a fuck how many polygons are used or how advanced the shaders are, all the bots look like ass and more importantly look WRONG! Most of the originals woulda worked in the hands of a competent director who didn't have a boner for hacky cgi.
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here is my IMAX money
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GO BAY! now pls do a stargate movie!
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Okay, I get why some people may not like Transformers I don't like some movies that a lot of people go crazy for.
But I don't understand how the people who liked the original cartoon hate the movie. You cannot sit there and pretend there was real substance in those cartoons which purpose was to sell toys. People complain that there was little plot to the movie...why because the cartoon was much better? no.
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i agree, fanboys will fanboys what can we do
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Absolutely nailed it, you did. Reminder to all Talkbackers: PLEASE HELP. FEED THE BATES!
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oops...sorry about my last post. It is a blank post. Anyways, the robots in the first movie were very hard to make out. They look like walking pieces of scrap. Hopefully, Michael made them look a little bit more coherent in the sequel.
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still not interested....and fox is still a gross whore..
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Linkin Park
Spider-man 2(I nothing Spider-man and didn't see 3)
Most remakes
Forced interracial casting
Blade 2 and Harry for making me want to see it
Richard Kelly for not living up to the hype
Michael Bay for being all hype
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That's right... I called it!
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More of the same-but, well, Better! More Robots! More lines for the robots(We don't read that much-), more things going BOOOM!!! More of Megan straddling her banana seat. Big Robots Hitting Each Other. More jets. More boats. More '80's toon nods. CGI 100' Red Foxx! And a Bangles cameo in Cairo. You CANNOT miss this. Plus they trot out the obligatory cranky Yoda veteran type-Jetfire?! complete w/ cane, Chip and Dale (or whatever the Merry and Pippin twins are called), and of course-your friend and mine, Wheelie!!! *crickets* What's Wheelie again? is there a Chopper bunch cameo-? sorry wrong decade. A Monchichi's attack? no? Okay fine. BIG FUCKING ROBOTS HITTING EACH OTHER AND MAKING YOU PAY TO SEE IT. Yes. Gladly. Mikey Bay wins this round.
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Jun 08, 2009 8:14:17 PM CDT
Remember, in Philly, Tuttleman Omniverse & King of Prussia Stadi
by pennsydeux
Are RealIMAX. Star Trek concludes its elongated IMAX run at the Franklin Institute on 6/18.
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OooOOooOOooOO... FUCK THIS GUY!!"It ain't all about spectacle, Leader of the Frat Boys. Try telling a fucking story! That could hook us! Make us give a shit!And if the mood strikes... you know... poke around a bit... and... well... attempt to HEW CLOSELY to the FUCKING SOURCE FUCKING MATERIAL!!!It ain't all about humanoid machines changing into vehicular machines, you know. Each one has a distinct personality and reason for being. Imagine that.
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have no desire to see it again. I think that extends to the 2nd one.
The worst of the cartoons had a better plot than the first live action movie.
The humor in the movie was groan inducing. I would inflict pain on myself to distract from just how bad it was.
It's mind boggling just how much money it made. So naturally there's a sequel. But that doesn't mean I have to see it.
Plus I don't ever want to see shia ladoof in another movie.
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I couldn't feel any empathy for any character in any Michael Bay movie ever.
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Could Trannyformer_Apologist and AssimovLives be one and the same?
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I mean seriously? an emotionally gripping story?
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Aw, man, I'm fucking there, then.
I'd gladly sweat out Shia's googly eyes, Megan Fox's ass cheeks and an hour of substandard ILM metal-shavings-in-a-blender animation to hear him shout "Fuck you all, too!" to the audience and get played out to the SANFORD AND SON theme. -
I know the IMAX shots will look AMAZING. I'll be there day 1.
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He's down a quart or three.
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I love how talkback brings out the best in cocksucking and rim jobs.
I have no opinion or feeling on Transformers one way or the other, its a God damn cartoon. Deal people.
But what tickles my scrote is the majestic taints that cry and bitch , yet go line their fat asses up and watch the movie hah hah. - and let's not be a GOD DAMN liar shall we, everyone one of you cheese ass fucks will be seeing this. You can lie to your Momma about fucking your toys, but you can't lie to me!
If you have a sack, save your 9 bucks for another double quarter pounder. You Fat mother fucking pieces of flotsam. bwwwah hah hah -
Hmmm, I have to doubt it. AssimovLives is too much of a pompous blowhard to resort to an alias. But he's also a master of deflection and can be quite slippery when confronted head on. Considering his past relationship with Bay and TRANSFORMERS, I suppose anything is possible.
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that this isn't a real film, so much as a toy commercial.
So he's gonna check some of the scenes right before the premiere to see if they're worthy of approval?
What if they aren't? Is he just gonna go with it anyway? It'll be too late to change it.
What kind of a half-arsed hack stages the premiere of his film when it might not be complete/as he would like it?
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You're about to make 350 million domestic, FUCK these little people with their little accomplishments hah hah hah. Gives us Trance- formers IV you rich mother fucker.
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Robert Wise did it with Star Trek- The Motion picture. He directed The Day the Earth stood still, the Andromeda Strain, and edited Citizen Kane for Welles. Hardly a shmuck.
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I read on another TB, can't remember which one, he used to be Bladerunner 69 or some such.Also, in one of your earlier posts you reference TINO, what perchance might that be?
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As you said "He directed The Day the Earth stood still, the Andromeda Strain, and edited Citizen Kane for Welles."
He's clearly more talented than Micheal Bay, in that case. & given the fact that this film hinges on special FX even more so than the movies you mentioned, It should be pretty important to know if it works or not, before you show it.
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TINO = talkbackers in name only
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It's all about the release deadline, it doesn't matter if you are Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg or Robert Wise, if your film isn't completed by the release date looming, it's time to go to work and birn the midnight oil.
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didn't even get a preview screening of his own film before the premiere. He hand delivered the film still wet to the premiere.
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Yes, AssimovLives used to be BladeRunnerUnit (banned) and then later became Memories-Of-Murder (also banned).TINO = "Transformers In Name Only".
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...it's about 146 minutes too long!!! *Ba do bing"
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...as they serve to keep Michael Bay occupied and away from making other movies. As far as I'm concerned, I hope he churns out sequel after sequel of TF, until by number #22, he's a doddering old man who retires and goes to Florida.
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...so Stephen Sommers can get chained to that franchise, making those sequels and away from other movies, for the rest of his career.
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he'll OD or die from super stripper clap first!TINO2!!!
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Not a Rick'Roll, not a psych-out joke, we just posted exclusive news on the REAL voice of The Fallen in TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN - http://bigfanboy.com
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That's going to be fucking sweet. I hope this news is true.
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Judge for yourself if Revenge of the Fallen is one of the best films this summer: The blonde that Sam meets in college is a Decepticon disguised as a girl. She is given the nickname "Alice", since it was a copy of a humanoid Honda robot taken from an ad. This blonde seduces Sam, and as she inserts a probe (its “tongue” ) into his mouth to "hack" his brain, Mikaela enters his room and sees the girl on top of her boyfriend, and that pisses her off. Jetfire WAS a Decepticon that shifted allegiance to the Autobots. He was one of the original Seekers of the Allspark that reached earth thousands of years ago. When his “batteries ran out,” it must be that he is automatically programmed to retain the ability to copy any machine from a cart to whatever technology that existed throughout history while he lay dormant (not sure if this would be explained in the movie, which could be a source of a plot hole). Wheels, the Decepticon that Mikaela captures in her dad’s garage and after being threatened by a blowtorch, leads her, Sam, his geeky dorm mate, and Simmons to the Smithsonian to wake up Jetfire using that sliver of the Allspark that Sam had. Optimus Prime goes into stasis after being stabbed by Megatron (Optimus goes mano-o-mano with both Starscream and Megatron in that forest in the trailer. Optimus is not really dead, but it would take like hundreds or thousands of years for his body to repair itself). Sam ACTUALLY DIES, and while he is being revived, he sees a “heaven” vision of the original Primes and direct ancestors of Optimus, who were murdered by the Fallen, informing the teen that they have chosen him to own the Matrix of Leadership (It is the dagger-like thingy that Sam picks from the ground in the trailer; this was produced by the AllSpark thousands of years ago as a key to a machine atop the Pyramid of Giza that can destroy a star -our sun in this case- and transform it into Energon, a secondary energy source just in case the AllSpark gets destroyed). He hears Mikaela tell him “I love you.” And when he finally wakes up, his first words are “I love you.” A minor plot involves the fact that they haven’t said “I love you” to each other and each were challenging the other as to who should say it first, which complicates matters since Mikaela witnessed first-hand Sam’s propensity to be disloyal to him when he is far away from her. Sam uses the Matrix of Leadership crystal to revive Optimus' Spark. Before dying, Jetfire requests that his wings be given to Optimus Prime so that the latter could get to the Giza Pyramid fast, to stop the Fallen from activating the machine that could destroy the sun. Simmons has a major role in the film and becomes a hero of sorts. After being fired from Sector 7, he spends his time in his mother's deli, and he keeps a secret attic above his mom's restaurant, blogging with the name "Robo Warrior" who happens to be discovered by Sam's geek dorm mate. Simmons is responsible for helping out a U.S. Carrier with coordinates to destroy Devastator by sneaking under the biggest Decepticon ever. And Mikaela gives Simmons a flying kiss for helping her and Sam. I'm not sure how they would explain why Arcee is a girl, or the concept of trans-dimensional travel. At the end of the movie, once Optimus defeats the Fallen, Megatron and Starscream escape through a portal, a continuum a.k.a. trans-dimensional travel, and enter another dimension where the ship called the Nemesis is located. Megatron summoned the Fallen from this place. His last words are "Arise!" as he wakes up the other robots in sarcophagi in this ship. Megatron wanted to be a Prime, which is why he promised to work for his Master, the Fallen. Optimus, however, tells Megatron that he was deceived by the Fallen, since Primes are born--not made. The Fallen is a Prime that murdered Optimus’ ancestors, which is why Optimus is an orphan and the last of the Primes.
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What can you say about all the Pixar films? Duh!
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I've known for over a month, I just couldn't say anything until now - http://bigfanboy.com
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...the cartoon show was painful to watch. It was like being insulted. The only thing the cartoon got right was the voices.
When people say Transformers is just dumb, I know they have only watched the cartoon and not read the comics. Indeed, if you bought the Grimlock and Shockwave toys and read their bios, you would wonder why the cartoon totally ass-raped Grimlock and Shockwave.
Many fans rate Shockwave as a much better villain than Megatron. But he's the kind of villain who would require a smart script. If Bay were smart, he'd bring the real Grimlock (not the stupid cartoon one) to the silver screen, complete with his bitter hatred of Optimus Prime and millitarist attitude. Grimlock, if done right, could become iconic and make Wolverine look like a Care Bear. But of course Grimmy blurs the line between good and evil so Spielberg won't want that...might upset the kiddies. That's maybe why we don't get the likes of Mirage and Sunstreaker in Bayformers.
Budiansky created a whole bunch of great characters, he established the everyman concept which is what has made the characters so enduring. The bios on todays TF toys are nowhere near as well written as Budiansky's amazingly concise profiles.
Budiansky and Furman wrote the TFs the same way one would write human characters, yet its apparent Orci and Kurtzman don't get this, often giving the TFs portentous, flat cliche lines. -
And Im taking what you posted as a possible screen play but sonds one millions times worse then the Prime Directive script of the last movie.
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They're another example of directors who can shoot great action scenes. Say what you will about the Matrix sequels, but the action was coherent, exciting, and shot without shaky cam.
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I thought the racing sequences where a little on the bombastic side.
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this very Decemberand nothing else fucking matters/endrant
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Thats right I said before and I'll say it again to all the haters out there "SHUT THE FUCK UP!". HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE!
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Don't hold it in, let it all out, how do you REALLY feel?
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My eyegalls need a little foreplay first. What do you got?
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or does Bay just run with it and have Bumblebee "Lubricate" spot on the Bulls Eye she has right above her ass crack while Megatron blows a load all over that nasty looking Marylin on her forearm.
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Jun 09, 2009 1:01:37 AM CDT
joshuavance1701..Actually I won't, and I didn't last time either
by conspiracy
I stole Transformers...it sucked so bad I deleted it, not worth the disk space. This one...I won't even bother wasting the bandwidth. But I will come here to read the EPIC Talkback when this thing Drops.
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Box office does not equal quality; retards and highschool drop outs will watch anything that is brightly colored and moves, and though I think his movies suck...Bay understands that audience like nobody in history.
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Jun 09, 2009 1:14:45 AM CDT
TRANSFORMERS WILL ROCK & RULE THE SUMMER AND SOME OF U R JUST NA
by paragon720
Sure there were silly moments and bad lines in transformers...so what! Sure it was a lil goofy at times....but it rocked overall. My son and i loved it and in the end what more can a grown-ass man expect out of a cartoon? The C.G.I was frackin A-w-e-s-o-m-e and we went back and saw it two ( count it two ) more times. After the up's and downs of this movie season Transformers will be like a cool beer on a hot summer day. As geeks we ask for these movies. We ask because although most of us are grown and we still love this $hit! we love space ships, dinosaurs, zombies and super hero fights. Show some respect to your own hobbie and or passion and just enjoy it. Believe it or not M.B and co have to think of "Non-geeks" when they make there flicks so take the bad with all of the robot smashing good. If u want something to bi@#h about watch the end of wolverine.
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...to tear a strip of some young runner who forgets the choco flakes on his coffee.That dumb little bastard should have known that only a well made coffee will help remove the taste of Satan's cock from those hard to reach back-of-the-throat places.You know what else is also good for that? Cocaine. Apparently.
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Megan Fox ass and a bunch of designer cars pummeling each other, what more could the family ask for in a summer movie. HA!
P.S. I really hope that Avatar fucks my eyeballs. -
I will NOT be giving this film my money.
I gotta wonder, tho, what will those fake-ass LIEMAX theatres do about proper IMAX aspect scenes - since their screens are TOO FUCKING SMALL and all...?? -
This is THE movie of the summer.
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Nope, not seeing it either, sorry. I'm 100% here now to get some tiny iota of revenge against these assholes for the first flick.
I'm so committed to avoiding this, in fact, I walked out on the trailer. That fucking Pointer Shitsters song sucked donkey balls twenty years ago, now it's just really, really sad anyone would even dream of using it... -
Why Big Fucking Robots, of course son--Big CGI whirling Metallic BOOM!!It don't get no better than that. You want characters? deep plots? You're STOOPID! This is about ROBOTS! And things that Explode! What more could you ask for-?!
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Re-watched TRANSFORMERS last night for the first time in six months to get myself ready for the new one and Shia repeating "No" like six times during the movie really bugged me. Josh Dumell even says it once. I hope Bay reigned that in this time. Looking forward to this movie even if it is a guilty pleasure popcorn movie about giant robots beating each other up, lol. REVENGE OF THE FALLEN LEFT TESTICLE!
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I pretty much hated the first transformers because when they were fighting it was like watching a bunch of coat hangers in a washing machine. You could hardly tell what was going on.
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From shooting hoops to the Super Bowl.
We like sports, and we don't care who knows,
Football, football, football, tennis, hockey... golf.
The game is starting, everyone is here,
I got my snacks, my friends, and a beer.
Just two normal guys, hanging out having fun,
Right guy number two?
Yeah, guy number one.
E, to the S, to the P, to the N,
Its all I watch, cause I'm the man,
If my team loses, I'll be mean all night,
If you tell me to relax, we'll get into a fight.
Watching sports with girls is a pain,
they don't know the rules, there's no time to explain.
Single, double, triple, home run,
for the celebration, I'll shoot my gun. (gunshot)
I like my friend, he's a real guy's guy,
he's not a loud mouth like that cunt-hole, Steve.
We like sports, and we don't care who knows.
From Wimbledon, to the Astrodome.
We like sports, and we don't care who knows.
Football, football, football, tennis, hockey... golf.
Now when I say sports, you say nuts,
Sports, nuts
Sports, nuts
When I say cheating, you say sucks,
Cheating, sucks
Cheating, sucks
I drink whiskey, cause I like the taste,
You think it's bitter but I think it's great.
I also drink whiskey and we smoke cigars,
Don't believe me? Smell our cars.
We're real men, and we like sports,
if you say that we're not, then we'll see you in court.
I'm team captain, and I choose you,
I'm the other team captain and I choose you too.
We steal the ball and we're off to the races,
then scare the other team with our mad dog faces, like
What? What? What? What? What, What?
What? What? What? What? What, What?
We like sports, and we don't care who knows.
From the pre-game jokes, to the wrap-up show,
We like sports, and we don't care who knows.
Football, football, football, tennis, hockey... golf.
Throw me the baseball.
Now toss me the pigskin.
Now feed me the rock.
Now give me the rock. -
...and movies in GENERAL, is that be they giant robots, stalk-eyed alien sidekicks, or what have you; they all lack one redeeming quality:
DIGNITY -
Real IMAX or LIEMAX Digital bullshit?
Maybe we can get a Michael Bal "'PLOSION!!!" to correct that.
Please Merrick, go forth and get us the truth. -
Imagine that.
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Okay, now that word can officially be buried. Not only used by idiotic 20-somethings with some residual ghetto-fication in their blood, but also...Michael Bay. More than enough reason to file it away.
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I find that extremely hard to believe. No dork walks out of the theater during a preview as a sign of protest, I don't care who you are. That's ridiculous.
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Hip hop hasn't been even remotely relevant in years. The only people who use that slang are affluent white kids from the suburbs aching for "urban authenticity." The hilarious irony being that your average affluent white suburban kid wouldn't last TEN SECONDS in any "authentic" urban neighborhood. Even a gentrified one.
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Haters: Yeah, Transformers, as a film - was badly written, with action scenes that were impossible to follow, and a plotline that had outrageously enormous holes as well as ridiculous coincidences Lovers: I still had fun watching it, so Bay must be doing something right. Haters: I bought the DVD but haven't watched it again. Always a sign of a bad movie. Lovers: I still bought the DVD.
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Here is a list of BS excuses for bad movies:
"It is just a popcorn movie, it is not meant to be good." BS, there is NO reason to have a bad movie. Asking for a good script, good character development and interesting story is not unreasonable...unless you are talking to Michael Bay.
"You have to admit, Bay knows how to make great action scenes." Uhhh...just because there are big, loud action scenes does not mean that they are any good. Bay scenes are filled with terrible one-liners, fake poses and action for action's sake instead of important plot points. Christopher Nolan knows how a good action scene is done. Limit CGI, make the action essential to the plot, avoid the one-liners.
"The cartoon was bad, so the movies do not have to be any better." So by this thinking we should never get any better. Our handwriting was crap as a kid, so no need to make it better. We had bad coordination as a kid, no need to improve that. Is there anything that says just because it was based on a kid's cartoon that it cannot be good? Batman was a kid's comic, so why should it be good? Sorry, there are too many talented writers and directors out there for us to settle for anything short of good. Bad movies should be made by amateurs trying to learn the trade, but big budget movies have no excuse.
Go ahead and read the original treatment for Transformers and you will see how dumbed down this movie was from the original idea. I will give one example:
When Optimus first tries to talk to Shia Ladouche in the original script he accesses the internet and downloads the entire web so he can learn about humans. Then, since 1.3 billion people are Chinese he guesses that he should speak Chinese because statistically that makes the most sense. That is a good joke, smart and funny. But Bay cut that out, that is FAR too smart for him. Instead just give them the lame "ladiesman" Ebay joke. Yeah, Michael, you know what we want.
Michael Bay fans make Idiocracy seem more like a documentary than a satire. -
she is probably a lovely person, but she has this glistening sheen on her that looks like a mixture of ball juice and sweat.
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I hated the first Transformers movie (albeit I wasn't really a "fan" of the property to begin with), but one of the my biggest problems was the stupid shit like Optimus Prime going on EBAY. How STUPID is that! However, had they done it as you originally say, where he "downloads" the whole Internet to learn about his new surroundings, and learning of eBay is just a byproduct of that, that I would have been okay with, and that I could have thought to myself is stupid, but makes some sense and isn't bad enough to distract me through the rest.
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Jun 09, 2009 1:57:20 PM CDT
Megan Fox is the most beautiful creature on the planet right now
by lanemyersclassic
She looks like a modern day Gene Tierney.
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I'm sure she is a decent human being and a person who donates time or money to charity. but she still looks like she sucks trucker's dicks.
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Why not.
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Only if Gene Tierney was 98 pounds of poorly/trashy tatto'ed fuck meat. Oh...I think Megan is Hot...but she looks like the worlds hottest street walker/crack whore.
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“I don’t know if this movie’s about the story. I don’t know if anyone’s going in and trying to analyse the story and if they are, then fuck them for trying!”
“We’re not trying. We’re not pretending this is a story-driven film. It is what it is. Everybody just shut the fuck up and go have fun. It’s not meant to change your life. If you don’t want to see it, then don’t fucking go and pay for it. Stay home!” Good stuff Megan....keep bashing them white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America." -
You just claimed that Christopher Nolan knows how to shoot an action scene. That means that you were able to figure them out. Respects.
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Read all the comics, even watched all the cartoons (just focus on the comics, Tom), indeed he and Don Murphy consulted Simon Furman.
Guess what happened to DeSanto? He (and Don Murphy) got sidelined by Spielberg and Bay, two men who clearly know very little about TF.
Bay and Spielberg of course would never consult Simon Furman or Bob Budiansky, after all, what do those two writers know about Transformers, eh?
On one side you have Desanto and Murphy, and on the other you have Bay, Spielberg (he's only interested in the money to fund his next vanity project IMHO) and DiBoneventura (who thought robots talking was silly).
With Transformers you have:
1. Distinctive, iconic characters, as well as a myriad of "everyman" characters; aristocrats, gamblers, sociopaths, war profiteers, depressives, thugs, anti-heroes, pacifists, doubters, etc. The TF universe provides just about every character a writer could desire.
2. An extensive mythology and lore which taps into religious themes and has many, many stories to draw inspiration from.
3. Huge potential for spectacular set-pieces.
With all that it would not be difficult to make a smart TF movie with amazing action. When Spielberg picked Bay, he thought of (3) but was ignorant of (1) and (2). -
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Still think calling this stinkfest "the worst movie ever made" is hyperbole? Or have you realized I was right all along?
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Orcus would be pissed if he paid to see it. Lord knows there is worse out there. At least Orcus was inclined to see it to the ending
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