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Published at:  Jun 01, 2009 11:30:21 AM CDT


Merrick here...





We've already seen glimpses of "The Fallen" from the new TRANSFORMERS film, and gotten a sense of him/her/it via a toyetic interpretation seen HERE. Now, MTV has our first clear look at the character as it will appear in the actual film.





The image originates HERE.







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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:29:25 AM CDT

    Saw this yesterday...

    by dellsdontbounce

    And am I first? Woot!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:29:41 AM CDT

    Why does MTV hate brits?

    by ultimarex

  • Jun 01, 2009 11:30:55 AM CDT

    It's a fairly crappy looking still

    by mercuryx23

    It does not inspire me to run off and see this Michael Bay craptavaganza.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:31:18 AM CDT

    why does mtv get exclusives at all?

    by mithrandir16

    mtv hasn't been relevant for years.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:31:29 AM CDT

    I thought the "Fallen" were the Decepticons

    by liquid meddle

    ..who lost in the first movie? Man, I'm way out of the loop on this movie.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:33:14 AM CDT

    ugh

    by sparhawk38

    That is all.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:34:01 AM CDT

    mithrandir

    by mercuryx23

    You must be over 15. Obviously, with Twilight and HSM3 being the apex of the film going experience for the MTV audience, it is still quite relevant to the 12-15 year old set.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:34:30 AM CDT

    I'm with Liquid Meddle, thought it was plural.

    by cletus van damme

    WTF do I know?

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:34:46 AM CDT

    GO TAKE A WET SHIT, DONT WIPE, AND BLOW DRY YOUR ASS UPWARDS

    by pleasewipemyass

    WELCOME TO FLAVOR COUNTRY

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:35:30 AM CDT

    oops...

    by bouncy x

    by the same company. i think its Viacom but not entirely sure. anyway thats why they get the exclusives in this case at least.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:35:33 AM CDT

    Whatever Happened to the Misinformation Campaign?

    by deejay

    Whatever happened to the "misinformation campaign?" Did Bay simply abandon it a while back? Whatever the case, I think the designs in this film continue to accomplish what the (classic) original cartoon wasn't allowed to do. Make each of the creatures look distinctive enough for a layperson to tell them apart. I don't know how the actual characters will play-out on screen, but am looking forward to seeing how this crew tries to "flesh-out" each of them.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:35:49 AM CDT

    Liquid

    by mercuryx23

    You don't have to be in the loop. The plot is secondary to robots transforming and things exploding, Megan Fox and John Turturro mugging at th camera and then running to his mailbox for a check.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:36:37 AM CDT

    Looks great!!!

    by maddox

    Hahahaha....No, not really. Geez, I crack myself up!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:39:29 AM CDT

    Interesting...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    At least he looks different from the rest of the Transformers.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:39:46 AM CDT

    This film needs

    by donkey_lasher

    GIANT ROBOT PIG

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:44:34 AM CDT

    God I have no desire to see this.

    by jimmy_009

    The whole Transformers franchise is meaningless to me. It just seems shallow and loud.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:44:36 AM CDT

    ccchhhrrr...

    by mercuryx23

    Yeah, he looks like some kind of weird mutated metal Ent-thing. He also looks like a bad matte painting.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:45:58 AM CDT

    fallen

    by simondark

    shouldnty have gotten back up..see thats funny because its true.Whassis he like satan by way of the fallen? Or do I not really care?Fox is still a skank whore though.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:46:11 AM CDT

    The reaction to this scene in most suburban theaters

    by azultool

    "DAMN, DOO. LOOK AT DAT ROBUT, AND SHIT! IT'S LIKE ALL BIG, AND SHINEY AND SHIT. DAMN, DIS MOVIE'S HELLA TIGHT. DIS IS LIKE THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME!"

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:46:29 AM CDT

    BIONICLES 2 : ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

    by whodis

  • Jun 01, 2009 11:49:33 AM CDT

    he looks like a cross between the Moorwen......

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    From Outlander and a Grasshopper....A BIG FUCKIN GRASSHOPPER!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:50:21 AM CDT

    Ugly as shit

    by ballyhoo

    Surprise surprise.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:51:32 AM CDT

    The Fallen is the Sexiest Tomboy Bean Pole on the Planet!

    by thepurplelantern

  • Jun 01, 2009 11:51:37 AM CDT

    It looks like shit

    by monkey butler

    There's no worse plot in sci-fi than "aliens taught us technology" or "ancient civilisations were secretly super-advanced". It was shit in Stargate, shit in 10,000 BC, and it was shit in Transformers. The Fallen's head looks like the death mask of an Egyptian sarcophagus; that's neither clever nor original. It's just fucking lame.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:52:04 AM CDT

    LAME

    by odysseus

    I'll be skipping this installment.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:55:29 AM CDT

    ITs da DEBIL!

    by d.vader

  • Jun 01, 2009 11:56:04 AM CDT

    Lightsabers . . .

    by a_clockwork_irony

    are arguably the best movie weapon ever; but, the very presence of one doesn't mean the script is any good. The Adventures of Sam 2 isn't likely to be any better/worse than the first one.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:56:14 AM CDT

    Looks like a big gay robo-harlequin baby.

    by kizeesh

    and that's being generous.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:57:45 AM CDT

    d.vader

    by simondark

    that was the best thing thats happend to me so far today.The debil..I laughed so hard my whole office looked at me like I was high.good shit

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:58:13 AM CDT

    taking a shit

    by patch_adams_dickblood

  • Jun 01, 2009 11:58:57 AM CDT

    So that's 'The Fallen'

    by kevin_costners_recycled_piss

    All these character designs look the same to me.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 11:59:50 AM CDT

    just shake your head and blink while looking at it

    by spandau belly

    for the complete Michael Bay experience.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:04:17 PM CDT

    yeah we um..already know what he looks like

    by glory_fades_immaxfischer

  • Jun 01, 2009 12:06:13 PM CDT

    Nice, Simondark

    by d.vader

    I do what I can =). Glad it could brighten your monday.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:07:57 PM CDT

    I wonder..

    by simondark

    He/She/It,is obviously shitting...but i wonder if he shits out litttle robot bits.Or
    maybe its demonstrating what he thinks of megean fox's "talent"

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:08:15 PM CDT

    Bionicle: the movie!!!

    by trannyformers_apologist

    Who is the coked, up still liven in the 80s, HACK of a commercial and music video director who designed this steaming pile of horseshit?
    Will it talk? Will it be on screen for more than five seconds at a time?Will its final battle be filmed in a coherent manner? Will it have character development? Will people apologize and defend the horrible aspects of this movie like the first one?
    Poorly shot and edited action scenesCommercial music video directing
    Dumb plot
    Cringe inducing comedy
    Terrible dialogue
    Horrible acting
    Shit music Most of all shit action scenes wasted on by hack directors "trademark style". Enjoy your "leave your brain at the door"," It's not Shakespeare", "based on a dumb kids cartoon to sell toys".. "ACTION" flick.
    At least the villains in GI JOE will talk and have some character development.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:08:17 PM CDT

    Bionicle: the movie!!!

    by trannyformers_apologist

    Who is the coked, up still liven in the 80s, HACK of a commercial and music video director who designed this steaming pile of horseshit?
    Will it talk? Will it be on screen for more than five seconds at a time?Will its final battle be filmed in a coherent manner? Will it have character development? Will people apologize and defend the horrible aspects of this movie like the first one?
    Poorly shot and edited action scenesCommercial music video directing
    Dumb plot
    Cringe inducing comedy
    Terrible dialogue
    Horrible acting
    Shit music Most of all shit action scenes wasted on by hack directors "trademark style". Enjoy your "leave your brain at the door"," It's not Shakespeare", "based on a dumb kids cartoon to sell toys".. "ACTION" flick.
    At least the villains in GI JOE will talk and have some character development.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:08:50 PM CDT

    Sign over the theatere should read

    by bagwanbob

    Abandon ye all hope who enter here. . .

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:10:45 PM CDT

    So from what cinema has taught us the last 15 years

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Ancient civilizations worshipped The Fallen,
    The Predators and Micheal Jackson in Stargate.

    Damn

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:12:54 PM CDT

    Why do these robots look less like robots

    by lb

    and more like plain big aliens???
    I know they are aliens but its just weird how they seem to be looking less like working robots and more like pointless CGI aliens from a M. Night film.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:14:31 PM CDT

    ITS AN INNNNNNNSECCCTTTTTT!

    by theycallmemrtibbs

  • Jun 01, 2009 12:18:05 PM CDT

    Don't forget inter-dimensional begins...

    by kevin_costners_recycled_piss

    Even though they were blatantly aliens.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:19:01 PM CDT

    Looks like a nasty alien robot to me.

    by mr. nice gaius

    And you guys are gonna bitch about it?! Pfffttt! Move on because...THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:20:45 PM CDT

    I cant wait..

    by simondark

    for the next cyclical wave of filmaking.We will be getting remakes of 90's movies and movies based on toys cartoons games and television from the 90's as well.Maybe we will get a friends movie,and joey chandler and ross can run a gang bang on phoebe rachael and monica while they watch a 90's brad pitt movie like 12 monkeys so that we KNOW there in the 90's.And they can listen to some nirvana and drive mazda miatas and wear flannal...Ok Im rambling...sorry

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:22:17 PM CDT

    You are absolutely right, lb

    by daggor

    Transformers aren't alien hobgoblins, they're robots - and even more importantly, characters to be portrayed like humans in giant suits of armor.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:23:16 PM CDT

    Dat Funky Man

    by the brains

    Talk to da hand.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:29:31 PM CDT

    That design is actualy ok...

    by m_reporter

    ... it's still overly busy, but not as busy as the robot designs from the 1st movie.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 12:36:50 PM CDT

    "Him/Her/It"

    by ebonic_plague

    It'd be pretty funny if it WAS a chick. Then again, how would we know? Would it have to sit down to lubricate?

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:04:19 PM CDT

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

    by fuckmichaelbay

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:04:25 PM CDT

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

    by fuckmichaelbay

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:04:43 PM CDT

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

    by fuckmichaelbay

    Getting warmed up for July!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:07:15 PM CDT

    Looking forward to it.

    by chariowalda_barbarossa

    Yes I still like the first Bayformers and am looking forward to this next one. Wanna see them eating all our sand. Still don't get what's not to like about first one, it never was supposed top be Shakespearean drama.

    Avatar however, may turn out to be a Phantom Menace sized steaming pile of poodoo. That kind of hype seems just too familiar, and James Cameron is overrated. I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but that'S what I'm expecting at the momen.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:13:24 PM CDT

    looks like he's taking a squat on the moviegoing public

    by lance rocke

    maybe there's a Charmin tie-in?

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:14:49 PM CDT

    Fallen has already been shown in the trailer(s)...

    by harrywannabe

    Why is this pic considered "exclusive" when the Fallen shows up in at least one of the various trailers and/or clips that have been around for quite some time now? After seeing that teaser poster with its image on it, it's fairly easy to pick it out in the clips we've seen already.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:15:09 PM CDT

    I'm planning on seeing this, and enjoying this

    by twogunjames

    I'm a grown man, so the old cartoons and the toy line mean jack shit to me. ;) I just want to see giant robots crush puny humans. Fuckers.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:19:51 PM CDT

    Um for real?

    by spectrebeeyatch

    This douche is defending Transformers but then goes on to bash Avatar and James Cameron. You're joking right? Because if you're not please go blow your brains out and save us all from your stupidity. You don't get what's not to like in the first one? How about the horrible acting? Or the plot being pointless or that fact the robots piss on people. Or how about the fact when I see that film I hate hummanity and look forward to actual robots coming to destroy it. Oh yeah by the way James Cameron kicks ass you tool.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:22:09 PM CDT

    It's a... toy robot. Yeah.

    by jackpumpkinhead

    And it's in a movie about more toy robots. Oooookay.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:42:49 PM CDT

    Look! He's the Fallen and he can't get up

    by yotzvonfrelnik

    And that is ONE spiky pelvis.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:46:36 PM CDT

    I'M JAZZ, BEE-OTHCES!

    by a_clockwork_irony

    I feel I missed something with the glasses in the 1st one. I mean the secret base was discovered wihtout them. What was the point? Course I was high and only saw it once at the midnight show. I just hope they have more giant robots NOT being seen by the silly parents as they crush flowers. And bring back that giant Hellraiser cube thingie! Man it's good to be alive!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:51:44 PM CDT

    Looks like it has two dicks.

    by killdozer

  • Jun 01, 2009 1:52:03 PM CDT

    The Fallen is one of the original Primes.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Ugly fucking brute ain't he?

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:55:17 PM CDT

    Shia's sock saves Optimus.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Thank fucking hell, for the sock!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 1:57:24 PM CDT

    Bob Orci... why no holes in the sock?

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Just think of the FUN & HILARITY that would create in the cinema.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 2:00:54 PM CDT

    Fallen into you....

    by yeti

    Sing it Celine!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 2:02:42 PM CDT

    Next in Remakes - COMMERCIALS

    by no-op

    The next round of movies will be reboots of popular commercials from the 70's and 80's. Hey Mikey! Thatsaspicymeatball! You're soaking in it! Hungry Hungry Hippos! Teach the World to SING! Mr. CLEAN! Glo-Coat Heelmark Flying Shield! Can't wait.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 2:16:53 PM CDT

    I could give a flying fuck.

    by disfigurehead

  • Jun 01, 2009 2:19:00 PM CDT

    It'd be nice NOT to see the 'Shakespeare' argument

    by j.b.m.a.

    trotted out by those who lack even the meanest descriptive imagination. Not only is this the kind of reasoning a backward ten-year-old would balk at deploying, but it makes absolutely no sense in regards the Immortal Bard himself, who was in fact a populist playwrite who filled his work with murder, war, romantic intrigue and on a least one occasion a few penis jokes.I'm sure that if he were around today 'ol Shakey would be gainfully employed by the hollywood system and bringing us 'A Comedy of Errors 2: Electric Boogaloo'...and it'd still be better than anything that twerp Orci can pen.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 2:24:09 PM CDT

    J.B.M.A. Your point is . . .

    by a_clockwork_irony

    Proven by walking out of many of the Hollywood versions of many of Shakey's plays was overheard, "What did you expect, Shakespeare?" Hollywood will make crap available as long as there is money to be made. DAMN US ALL!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 2:24:33 PM CDT

    Someone tell the studio WE DON'T LIKE SHIA!

    by metropolis

    "Megatron wants what's in my mind".

    Fucking great -- so glad the plot revolves around goofy shi-buff.

    Aliens, Predator, Wolverine, Terminator, Transformers, GI Joe -- how many cool franchises need to be raped?

    Answer me Baby Jesus!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 2:29:18 PM CDT

    Oh that's cool

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

  • Jun 01, 2009 2:29:45 PM CDT

    Isn't Megatron the fallen?

    by hb_dad

    Megatron is back by the way. I think it is stupid he's back from the dead. In the first movie, I was wondering why the humans were so stupid as to dunk dead Megatron into the ocean as opposed to just melting him down and/or at least chop him up. Now humanity will pay for its stupidity! Its like bad 60's Batman or James Bond villain syndrom...

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  • Jun 01, 2009 2:39:43 PM CDT

    Is it supposed to be an Egyptotron?

    by photoboy

    How utterly unoriginal. More epic fail from Bayformers.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 2:43:00 PM CDT

    no subject

    by a_clockwork_irony

    As I said The Adventures of Sam 2 will be no better/worse than the first one. But hey, Bumblebee popping fingers to the Sisters and Shia screaming "Ooooooppptimuuus!" I can only hope they we'll get some marines yelling, "GO! GO! GO-BOTS wouldn't be this bad!"

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  • Jun 01, 2009 3:08:16 PM CDT

    is that supposed to be Optimus?

    by cap'n jack

    He's red and blue. No retarded flames though.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 3:14:23 PM CDT

    "Look at these ancient engravings!"

    by liquid meddle

    "They say.. Stargate was here. Huh, strange. No wait, it's crossed out. It now says AVP was here! Great! Now I read Transformers right under that. This is so weird!"

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  • Jun 01, 2009 3:15:25 PM CDT

    It's a double entendre!!

    by larry sellers

  • Jun 01, 2009 3:18:55 PM CDT

    The Fallen's Giant Moose Cock

    by mr slippy fist

    will be fucking our eyes out on June 24th!!!!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 3:31:07 PM CDT

    used old ass plot....

    by angusthecow

    Fuck hollywood and its shit ass plots that could be writen by a 3 year old...see this novel it has the most original plot i have ever seen and for that reason it will never be made into a movie. it is called Sodom's X -A Song for The End- and it is written by K.R.Columbus. My uncle bought me the book for my birthday and the truth it is amazing,believe me is worth it.
    here's the link.
    http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/sodoms-x--a-song-for-the-end-/7182389

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  • Jun 01, 2009 3:35:41 PM CDT

    The toys are out.

    by rev_skarekroe

    If you want to get a clear look at his design.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 4:13:55 PM CDT

    Ooohh, spikey.

    by drewlicious

    I wonder what makes him more powerful than the others. So far in the franchise the only differences I can tell is that the autobots fight like bitches and the decepticons figured out that flying is better than driving. No wonder I almost always root for the bad guys. They usually deserve to win.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 4:14:36 PM CDT

    The Fallen are a 3rd race of robots

    by smackfu

    desperately searching the Earth for their dicks.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 4:27:02 PM CDT

    Fallen has a beer and cheats on his wife

    by autodidact

    Who's with me!?

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  • Jun 01, 2009 4:31:23 PM CDT

    It looks like it's getting ready to pee

    by le chevalier noir

    which would of course be locally consistent... although that would also make it a fembot, right? .... And the answer is: Mesa not care, but mesa think dissa even bigga doo-doo dis time!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 4:35:12 PM CDT

    it's a giant head.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Jun 01, 2009 4:42:45 PM CDT

    It's a big Robot w. pointy stuff on it.

    by sal_bando

  • Jun 01, 2009 4:52:31 PM CDT

    I don't get it

    by kellek1974

    It just looks like any of the other robots. Who is it? Optimus after he is beaten down in the trailer? He's about the only one I can make out besides Bumblebee.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 4:59:19 PM CDT

    Don't FUCK with FALLEN when he's POOPING

    by idrinkyourmexicancoke

    Looks like somebody has bad Transgas issues.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 5:12:00 PM CDT

    tranny

    by slkboxrman

    I'm sure the name is appropriate personally to yourself.... the "hack" has a long list of successful movies....did not design anything. ..did u even watch the first movie? Or were u too busy giving yourself head to actually pay attention? The plot and characters were very clear, the action was very easy to follow...and the acting and dialogue were great... and yes sam again is the focus of the movie....I think what gets forgotten is that this movie was NOT made for JUST you GEEKS....it has to appeal to a wide audience...a live action movie featuring only cgi bots and hav people as background would fail miserably and be a direct to dvd feature at best...no sequel....we should all b happy transformers is getting all this attention and is being taken as a major box office contender while retaining all the ties to the original cartoon and all the incarnations that followed....and please stop taking up room on these boards with your checklist of what U think about the first movie....I bet what seems like many of u haters are just 2 or 3 people on multiple computers under multiple names, all the names are too similar somehow....we all know u nerds hav nothing else bettr to do than sit on the net all day....losers

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  • Jun 01, 2009 5:28:12 PM CDT

    Ooooooooo...

    by wavingflagsinspace

    ...there are robots in this Megan Fox film! Cooool. God knows why they'd want to put robots between the camera and Megan Fox bending over a car/motorbike/immensely grateful Shia Lebouef, but there ya go.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 5:34:49 PM CDT

    It is NOT wrong to expect a movie to have a brain.

    by tedkordlives

    I posted this on another forum, but it pretty much sums up how I feel about Hollywood today. So I thought it bore repeating. That is, to be written, produced, and directed to certain intellectual standards. I know I'm preaching to the wrong crowd in the wrong forum, but when I finally saw TF (via my friend's netflix), I was aghast. Really. I'm sorry, folks, but you SHOULDN'T like that movie. Every character is comic relief? I can't remember any glaring plot holes, but the plot was so thin that I don't know that there could be plot holes. Characters that weren't really characters, just exposition machines. 90% of the humor was aimed at the ten-twelve crowds, but then you've got golden shower & masturbation jokes thrown in with absolutely no subtlety. And, as everyone says, incomprehensible action. I tried to watch it a couple of times when I was getting free HBO, and I still couldn't make out exactly what was happening and which bots were involved.

    Now look, I've been going to the theater since I was five, twenty-four years ago. I'm relatively normal, I dress like your grandfather and I work in a bookstore. And I'm begging you, please don't pay money for this. It will only lead to, indirectly or directly, whatever, a shitty GB3. And I don't want GB3, or anything coming out of Hollywood, really, to be shitty. But by contributing to brain-dead cinema you are ensuring that that is exactly what we'll get.

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  • just pointing that out.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 5:48:32 PM CDT

    fuck this website and it's broken message board.

    by ironhelix

  • Jun 01, 2009 5:50:41 PM CDT

    Just wait until you see Optimus rebuilt with Jetfire's bits..

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    He looks fucking retarded.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 5:54:16 PM CDT

    Ironhelix.

    by tedkordlives

    Not me, man. Not for the first one, not for this one. I also skipped Wolverine, and saw Terminator for free (legally). Gotta save all my money for potato vodka and comic books (3.99? Fuck you Marvel.)

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  • Jun 01, 2009 5:57:53 PM CDT

    Optimus rebuilt with Jetfire parts pic...

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    http://tinyurl.com/mmwlya

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  • Jun 01, 2009 6:01:33 PM CDT

    ted

    by slkboxrman

    GB3 ? Anyways if u work in a bookstore and dress like my grandfather then yes ths movie is prob not for u... shakespear in love, the notebook, or juno may b more satisfying to u....this is not brain dead cinema....its just funny how someone who seems so innocent is saying the same things exactly that some of the glaring haters say....the exact same phrasing too....as for watching it on hbo....yes a movie this big with as much goin on would be hard to watch on a 20 inch screen in letterbox format... get a biggr tv....I'm 38 yrs old and a big big movie buff...if this movie was dumb I wouldn't hav got thru it...I've turned off "bigger" movies for that...like TDK.... and yes TDK was horrible...heath ledger was the only plus in the whole movie....I may b biased for transformers based on the fact I grew up with it...the movie was great, made me feel like that child in the 80s watchin the cartoon....very few movies hav ever done that, all of us that grew up with it feel that way... and no we are not easily pleased...we do have standards...and to us this film fired on all cylinders, and was a tingling, euphoric experience....can't wait for this movie

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  • Jun 01, 2009 6:12:12 PM CDT

    ironhelix

    by slkboxrman

    Absolutely right....they'll b first in line , dressed as prime or megatron..

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  • Jun 01, 2009 6:16:58 PM CDT

    You guys are always super late on the news nowadays

    by rsk_taker

    :(

    You also don't seem to write much anymore. This article for instance literally has once sentence then the pic (and its days late). Are you guys still around?


    I also had mad issues trying to login to this

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  • Jun 01, 2009 6:17:51 PM CDT

    See, I've misrepresented myself

    by tedkordlives

    That's why I mentioned Ghostbusters 3. I'm a huge genre fan. I don't really go for the Oscar-grabbers. I like Sci-Fi and Horror movies-that's what I go to the movies for. Also, I am the magazine buyer, it's not like I'm some erudite, well-read stick in the mud. I'm simply trying to state my case as calmly as I can: I grew up with Transformers myself. I played TF with my friends on the playground. I wasn't into GIJoe, but that has no bearing on whether or not I'll see (or enjoy) the movie. Same with Star Trek. But see, you've only addressed the least of my complaints. The action and effects are always, and should always be second to plotting, dialogue and characterization, no matter what movie we're talking about. Dude, I'm glad you liked it. Really. I just wish you didn't.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 6:40:38 PM CDT

    slkboxrman

    by tedkordlives

    Totally innocuous question: Do you walk around with a semi all the time? I tried the silk boxer thing and man, those suckers are too smooth for me.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 6:47:28 PM CDT

    TDK Horrible?

    by a_clockwork_irony

    The Dark Knight was an excellent piece of film. You may not have liked it, but come on. Nolan is an awesome director. The atmosphere in The Prestige was too good. I'm not a fan of Gone With the Wind, but I always admitted to those who are that it is a good bit of film-making. You'd have to point out where TDK on a technical, logistic level is horrible. And Heath was great, but it's the Joker, people are drawn to that character. I don't think there was anyone better to play the role, but Heath didn't make or break it (sorry, that's to all those who say we only liked it becasue of Heath) Damn, did I really waste everyone's time with this poste? LoL! Sorry.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 6:51:24 PM CDT

    Looks like the love child of Sauron and

    by dingbatty

    a Bionicle and Shinzon's suit.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 6:56:56 PM CDT

    Sweet!

    by arcangel2020

    I am just glad that you have been showing preview links of the movie and excellent looking stills of the upcoming movie! THIS is one of the reasons why I visit AINC on a regular basis...NOT those horrible, crappy, shitty and moronic links/pics to the toy websites that seemed to be so prolific several months back!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 7:00:21 PM CDT

    My King Kong re-post

    by a_clockwork_irony

    Even if one didn't like Jackson's King Kong (which I loved) imagine Optimus and Megatron in that "T-Rex" fight. That was an awesome fight! Well-exectued. If T-formers could just give me that kind of a fight. Not give me a seizure from all the edits.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 7:01:47 PM CDT

    I've "Fallen" out of love

    by 'cholera's ghost

    get it? you get it.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 7:21:24 PM CDT

    Damn, dat robut just sploded and shit.

    by azultool

  • Jun 01, 2009 7:31:40 PM CDT

    'Cholera's Ghost

    by a_clockwork_irony

    Lol - Well, when that midnight show comes around I won't be "Fallen" into line with the rest! Oh yeah! Only so many puns . . .

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  • Jun 01, 2009 7:40:29 PM CDT

    The fallen's giant moose cock

    by mr slippy fist

    will be fucking our eyeballs out June 24th!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 7:44:13 PM CDT

    The Fallen farts like a mother fucker...

    by falafalguy

    That's some powerful gas.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 8:09:51 PM CDT

    Optimus rebuilt with Jetfire bits..

    by the dark shite

    Looks like a little gay kid walking around in his Mother's high heels.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 8:41:05 PM CDT

    The power of bay compels you to eat your own eyeballs...

    by bruticus

    the cartoon had a far better concept than these movies

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  • Jun 01, 2009 8:46:10 PM CDT

    seems throw together

    by simondark

  • Jun 01, 2009 8:53:39 PM CDT

    Don't mess with The Fallen's lights!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    That fucker will mess you up!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 9:24:46 PM CDT

    Shinzon's suit? From Star Trek: Nemesis?

    by d.vader

    Damn , that's almost a bit obscure there, Dingbatty.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 9:26:06 PM CDT

    Cybertaint!!!

    by elvispresleehorsleyharveyoswaldoprahwinf

    Hey look! Just like Michael Bay, it has no dick!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 9:27:18 PM CDT

    Liquid Meddle and whoever else asked

    by jsm1978

    The Fallen is one of the original (13?) transformers who turned against the others. In the comics and his other toy, he's depicted as always being on fire, I believe. So sort of the transformer version of the devil.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 10:09:03 PM CDT

    Egyptotron?

    by soliok

    Is this their plot? Some Egpytian Transforminator, once buried and sleeping beneath the sands, is now awake and looking for vengeance/world domination/moosecock/John Connor?

    Who wrote this trash? More importantly, why am I still planning to see it?

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  • Jun 01, 2009 10:12:11 PM CDT

    Yeah, I spelled Egyptian wrong.

    by soliok

    At least the moosecock section of that post is error free.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 10:13:57 PM CDT

    Jon Peters would be proud...

    by nerd rage

    It looks like a GIANT FUCKING SPIDER! Looks nothing like a Transformer which are utility based machines that happen to be alive. Bay's grasp of Transformers is limited to explosions.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 10:24:07 PM CDT

    Giant Pyramid Transformer?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Jun 01, 2009 10:31:26 PM CDT

    Oh and the egyptian influences

    by nerd rage

    are fucking corny! Did Bay use his how-to-make-characters kit the Stargate version? Transformers typically don't like like burnt slim jims.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 10:37:18 PM CDT

    Pyramid Climb

    by a_clockwork_irony

    People make it up the sides fine, why does a giant robot need fucking grapplings? He could reach up and be halfway to the top! Unless I'm misreading the scene.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 10:44:56 PM CDT

    FUCK ALL YOU BITCHING NERDS!!!

    by mainman2001

    This movie will be great summer action fun. I had no trouble at all following the action in the first movie. Non. Maybe, you nerds need to get your prescriptions doubled or something cause it just wasn't hard to follow. Bay rules. His movies are wonderful examples of what Hollywood combined with summer can be. Even Spielberg agrees. You guys have to stop bitching because I'm sure at least 80percent of you have never made a movie and have zero concept of just how hard one is to make. Maybe, only then will you stop your bitching because a transformer doesn't look exactly like they did when you were a kid. Get over it. I liked the show too but lets be realistic here. Opening day I am there.

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  • Jun 01, 2009 10:56:12 PM CDT

    FUCK YOU SHIT SNIFFING STUDIO CHEERLEADER!!!

    by nerd rage

    Keep sniffing shit and claiming it's a dozen roses! And your post was the most bitching a bitched ever bitched, bitch!

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  • Jun 01, 2009 10:59:15 PM CDT

    Comics = 90% of TF lore

    by relugus

    Anybody who does not know who The Fallen is clearly knows nothing about Transformers.
    The Fallen was one of the original 13 Transformers created by Primus. He was the Guardian of Entropy, but turned against Primus and joined Unicron.

    Ironically, the very same people who complain about dumb movies would probably find an authentic TF movie taking its cue from the comics too difficult to understand.

    The cartoon had great voices but that's pretty much it other than introducing Unicron. The cartoon itself was full of travesties equal and in some cases worse than anything Bay came up with, the characterisation of Grimlock and Shockwave in the cartoon is a fucking disgrace.
    Grimlock is meant to be a hard bastard who hates humans and hates Optimus Prime's wishy washy morals. The cartoon depicts him as a moron and house pet.
    Then there's Shockwave, a truly brilliant villain as envisioned by Bob Budiansky turned into a moron by the stupid writers of the cartoon.

    The "Everyman" concept is what's missing from Bay's Transformers. The whole fucking point is that they are meant to be individualistic characters, each with their own motives.
    Many of the Autobots hated humans, the Decepticons were not mindless monsters.
    And yet, many of those here who lecture about Bayformers completely miss this point, because you know nothing about Transformers to fucking start with.

    Remember, without Transformers there would be no Death's Head, yes?

    BTW An Action Man movie would piss all over GI Joe from a great height.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 12:07:43 AM CDT

    We all know what this movie will be like

    by redmond

    So why are any of us surprised?

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  • Jun 02, 2009 12:38:59 AM CDT

    Well..regulas is sort of right. This movie does

    by southafricanguy

    appear to have alot of the comics mythology in it. And as he says the comics really had a far better portrayal of the characters than the cartoon, and it created more of a mythology. So in that sense, the cartoon did have some really shitty things in it comparable to Bays films....

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  • Jun 02, 2009 12:46:55 AM CDT

    And the simple reality is that changes,

    by southafricanguy

    sometimes big changes need to be made to adapt this stuff. Not that that excuses some of Bays really shitty choices etc...Also, while I dont like how overdesigned the transformers are, I do like the attempt to make them actually look alien. As for the Fallen design...its ok I guess, kinda typical...

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  • Jun 02, 2009 12:47:18 AM CDT

    GIANT TRANSFORMING CROP CIRCLES!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    IN YOUR MUTHAFUKKING FACE!!!

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  • Jun 02, 2009 1:44:52 AM CDT

    C'mon guys

    by phategod1

    Cant you guys come up with funnier stuff, remember 2 years ago when we had lines like "Flames on Optimus="
    or Vaginatron or a host other funny crap we had to say about those designs. J/k keep it up.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 1:54:27 AM CDT

    Who gives a shit about Bayformers?

    by motoko kusanagi

    A V A T A R.December.nothing else matters

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  • Jun 02, 2009 1:58:11 AM CDT

    Beware the Judderman

    by yodalovesyou

    I bet it drinks Metz.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 2:11:56 AM CDT

    And he transforms into what?

    by fortunesfool

    A large lump of metal with no discernible features, perhaps.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 2:32:04 AM CDT

    NIGGA - I'M JAY-AZZ!

    by msa13

    How were people not offended by Jazz in the first movie?

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  • Jun 02, 2009 2:55:28 AM CDT

    Fortunesfool...apparantly a Cybertronian jet

    by southafricanguy

  • Jun 02, 2009 2:55:58 AM CDT

    pretty much like Megatron in the first one

    by southafricanguy

  • Jun 02, 2009 5:32:46 AM CDT

    D.Vader

    by dingbatty

    Yeah, whether people enjoyed or hated Nemesis, the iridescent sheen on his suit made an impression. I remember people remarking on the coolness of the costume design, at least.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 5:36:00 AM CDT

    MainMan2001

    by dingbatty

    By your "logic," no one is allowed to praise a movie if one hasn't made a movie, as well.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 5:37:06 AM CDT

    dingbatty....yeah shinzon's costume was

    by southafricanguy

    kinda cool, agree with you there, the problem was all in the conception ofthe character wasnt it?

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  • Judge for yourself if Revenge of the Fallen is one of the best films this summer: Jetfire WAS a Decepticon that shifted allegiance to the Autobots. He was one of the original Seekers of the Allspark that reached earth thousands of years ago. When his “batteries ran out,” it must be that he is automatically programmed to retain the ability to copy any machine from a cart to whatever technology that existed throughout history while he lay dormant (not sure if this would be explained in the movie, which could be a source of a plot hole). The blonde that Sam meets in college is a Decepticon disguised as a girl. "Alice" is her name, since it was a copy of a human-like Honda robot advertisement. This blonde seduces Sam, and as she inserts a probe (its “tongue” ) into his mouth to "hack" his brain, Mikaela enters his room and sees the girl on top of her boyfriend, and that pisses her off. Optimus Prime goes into stasis after being stabbed by Megatron (Optimus goes mano-o-mano with both Starscream and Megatron in that forest in the trailer. Optimus is not really dead, but it would take like hundreds or thousands of years for his body to repair itself). Sam ACTUALLY DIES, and while he is being revived, he sees a “heaven” vision of the original Primes and direct ancestors of Optimus, who were murdered by the Fallen, informing the teen that they have chosen him to own the Matrix of Leadership (It is the dagger-like thingy that Sam picks from the ground in the trailer; this was produced by the AllSpark thousands of years ago as a key to a machine atop the Pyramid of Giza that can destroy a star -our sun in this case- and transform it into Energon, a secondary energy source just in case the AllSpark gets destroyed). He hears Mikaela tell him “I love you.” And when he finally wakes up, his first words are “I love you.” A minor plot involves the fact that they haven’t said “I love you” to each other and each were challenging the other as to who should say it first, which complicates matters since Mikaela witnessed first-hand Sam’s propensity to be disloyal to him when he is far away from her. Sam uses the Matrix of Leadership crystal to revive Optimus' Spark. Before dying, Jetfire requests that his wings be given to Optimus Prime so that the latter could get to the Giza Pyramid fast, to stop the Fallen from activating the machine that could destroy the sun. Simmons has a major role in the film and becomes a hero of sorts. After being fired from Sector 7, he spends his time in his mother's deli, and he keeps a secret attic above his mom's restaurant, blogging with the name "Robo Warrior" who happens to be discovered by Sam's geek dorm mate. Simmons is responsible for helping out a U.S. Carrier with coordinates to destroy Devastator by sneaking under the biggest Decepticon ever. And Mikaela gives Simmons a kiss- a flying kiss that is, for helping her and Sam. I'm not sure how they would explain why Arcee is a girl, or the concept of trans-dimensional travel. The other Decepticon that changes allegiances is Wheels, that small Decepticon who ends up enamored by Mikaela. Like he hugs her and burrows his head into her cleavage, but she doesn't mind since she perceives the robot more like a pet. At the end of the movie, once Optimus defeats the Fallen, Megatron and Starscream escape through a portal, a continuum a.k.a. trans-dimensional travel, and enter another dimension where the ship called the Nemesis is located. Megatron summoned the Fallen from this place. His last words are "Arise!" as he wakes up the other robots in sarcophagi in this ship. Megatron wanted to be a Prime, which is why he promised to work for his Master, the Fallen. Optimus, however, tells Megatron that he was deceived by the Fallen, since Primes are born--not made. The Fallen is a Prime that murdered Optimus’ ancestors, which is why Optimus is an orphan and the last of the Primes.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 6:23:00 AM CDT

    Oh so boring...

    by mr gorilla

    All these shots of fucking robots. So what? The only, the ONLY thing that will make the film good is story and characters. And you can only know about these when you see the film. Read an interview with John Lassiter recently and the first thing he said about all the in-development thing was that the STORY was shaping up. One suspects it's the LAST thing on Bay's mind.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 6:23:53 AM CDT

    That's Revenge of the Fallen NOVEL

    by axeemall

  • Jun 02, 2009 6:24:15 AM CDT

    Rewind to 1993...

    by mr gorilla

    imagine if Spielberg had so little faith in his dinosaur movie, he started leaking images of each and every dino in the film.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 6:29:14 AM CDT

    Big Robots Hitting Each Other Once Again.

    by sal_bando

    Sounds good! I'm there.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 7:22:30 AM CDT

    Harry Potter will kick this film's ass...

    by mr gorilla

    Bay big movie monster who think people want be deafened in movie theatre by loud fighting robots! Bay forget that people go to cinema to laugh, cry, be thrilled, fall in love... Bay think he next gen of film-maker, but Bay in fact caveman, his films no more than circus acts, on the same artistic level of 'Train entering station' in 1898... Ooh Ooh!

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  • Jun 02, 2009 7:23:25 AM CDT

    1895 even...

    by mr gorilla

    Train enter station in 1895...

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  • Jun 02, 2009 7:26:17 AM CDT

    Robot films for Robot people

    by mr gorilla

    People who like see Bay robots fighting no better than robots, do not have emotion, enjoy destruction and explosions, do not care for others, unable to laugh unless joke pitched at 5-year-old... Me think Monkey Gorilla Robot maybe... Must go back to factory, missing vital intelligence and emotion chip... Oooh Ooooh OOOOOOOH

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  • Jun 02, 2009 7:33:56 AM CDT

    Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    by mr gorilla

    Oh my god, you actually used the 'it wasn't meant to me Shakespearean drama' line. Dude, we've been through this before. Film does not operate on just two settings: 1) Shakespearean Drama, 2) Stuff for 4-year-olds with learning disabilities. Believe it or not, dude, there are MIDDLE WAYS. Spielberg's 'Jaws': not exactly 'Measure for Measure', but a bit smarter than 'The Island', no? Listen man - we are in a very stupid era. Why are people like you seeking to justify this stupidity? 'Uuurh, lighten up man, not every film needs to be Tarkovsky!' I NEVER said it did. I LOVE blockbusters, man, and I just want more good ones and less bad ones. Sadly, the Hollywood Hype machine seems to want us to all put discernment to one side and buy the useless produce alongside the decent product. And, according to them and those idiot consumers who they've managed to brainwash, anyone who criticises rubbish is a snob.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 7:34:35 AM CDT

    'be Shakespeare', even.

    by mr gorilla

    Whew, that was a bit of a rant. Sorry, all.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 9:24:44 AM CDT

    ROTF at least is embracing TF mythology

    by relugus

    And I actually approve of some TFs not being humanoid in appearance.

    What bugs me is the conservative assumption by Spielberg and co that audiences won't be able to relate to the robots (which is the real reason they have so little dialogue and always play second fiddle to the human characters).

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  • Jun 02, 2009 9:51:10 AM CDT

    Scarrreeeweee

    by theexterminator

  • Jun 02, 2009 10:36:33 AM CDT

    Somebody w/ talent should make a Gobots movie

    by stabby

    and show Bay how a real giant transforming robots movie is done. Better yet, a Shogun Warriors movie!

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  • Jun 02, 2009 10:37:32 AM CDT

    LOOKS LIKE A ROBOT CLOVERFIELD

    by bringingsexyback

  • Jun 02, 2009 11:21:05 AM CDT

    This looks great!

    by ecm

    How come it seems like everyone in the Talkbacks hate movies? Shut up! This movie will be awesome and full of win! "There is no fail in this dojo!"

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  • Jun 02, 2009 12:51:37 PM CDT

    I'm confused.

    by dr_pepperspray

    Did the Transformers not come from Cybertron in this story line?

    I didn't pay any attention to the first one.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 1:09:20 PM CDT

    Michael Bay told Megan Fox to put on weight.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    As he doesn't like skinny girls, to snort his cocaine off.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 2:18:34 PM CDT

    I thought this movie was about robots

    by rufferto

    or something. Where does the big, ugly, incomprehensible demon fit into this world of big ugly incomprehensible Baybots?

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  • Jun 02, 2009 3:08:20 PM CDT

    Michael Bay craps rainbows

    by jeditemple

    And transforms into a douche.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 4:30:54 PM CDT

    Cloverfield = waste of money

    by lockesbrokenleg

    all that herky jerky shit, and you hardly ever see the monster. I can't believe people were hyped for that shit.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 6:53:49 PM CDT

    A "demon" fits perfectly into Transformers

    by relugus

    By making the Transformers origin and story a heavily religious one, the comics did something original and subversive, as we don't typically associate such spiritual things with robots. In my youth those comics I read avidly every week totally changed the way I thought about robots.
    Kurtzman and Orci deserve some credit for putting some of this stuff in the film, because we can be sure that some supposedly smart film critics, and dumb audiences, won't be able to grasp the idea of robots being involved with religious themes.
    TF is a toy-line, yes, but the Marvel comics transcended that. Sadly, its likely Spielberg and Bay won't allow movie TF to portray robots in a way never before seen in cinema.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 8:17:42 PM CDT

    Uuhh that was a rhetorical question

    by rufferto

  • Jun 02, 2009 8:23:49 PM CDT

    Oh I know what you are talking about now

    by rufferto

    nevermind.

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  • Jun 02, 2009 11:29:18 PM CDT

    Vaginal Decepticon?

    by testgiver

    Looks more like Recepticon to me...

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  • Jun 03, 2009 12:33:23 AM CDT

    zippideedodah

    by kwingjr

    is there any cool news on here anymore?

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